Watch What Crappens - #3543 Next Gen NYC S2E013 Part Two: Brooksie Torture House

Episode Date: September 17, 2026

This is part 2 of 2Next Gen NYC gets its first ever reunion, and Brooks is ready to rumble. Well, if not, we’ll get to hear him say Crypto Torture House a few times. Shai and Charlie are getting the... most flack, but Shai is the only one to let it get under his collar. No never mind, it was just fashion. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and get ad free listening, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to watch our crapins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you miss part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap. Liam, you might be the businessman in New York. What? Busiest man in New York.
Starting point is 00:00:39 What show are you watching? What? So you're an actor, a director, a hockey player, motorcycle enthusiast, ski instructor, volunteer fighter horse dad wow but you still found time to apply for the position you crave most ariel is boyfriend sitting in a tree k i ss s god this is boring why are their children can we get some older ladies who are possibly on drugs yelling at each other okay go ahead Liam, answer that. Liam, what's it like to be okay
Starting point is 00:01:16 at a bunch of things, but not good at any one thing? He's like, well, you know, you know, the actor's life, you know, I remember was it 2001, was it 2000? I was on set for Hey Arnold. I was in the voice booth. I played a, I played
Starting point is 00:01:33 schoolmate number three, and I had to say, Hey, Arnold, yeah, it was an honor. It's like saying, like, well, you know, live from New York, it's Saturday night, except the Nickelodeon version. Hey, Arnold. I'll just say it one more time. Anyway, it was, you know, life is hard. It's, you know, I try to do a lot of things. And, you know, it was just an honor to be on this show, Carrera in theater soon.
Starting point is 00:01:54 All right. Well, are people still jerking off to your feet? And was one of those people working at Nickelodeon while your mother was there? He's like, well, you know, I mean, there is such a, there is something about jerking off to feet. I don't really get it. I do get pedicures now. So, thanks. but yeah I mean maybe I'm kind of an epa baby because my mom worked at Nickelodeon I got into Nickelode and I worked there haven't really worked since though so don't hate me
Starting point is 00:02:23 yeah um you know that show they can't do that on television um I was trying I've been trying to pitch a new show called I would like to do that on television and it's about me acting so anyway next question so then Andy's like All right. Well, Jalil from White said, did Hudson setting a boundary with you make you want to pursue Ariana even more? It's like, ah, I wouldn't say that. I mean, it definitely put a smile in the face, knowing you're pissing off the last guy. She's just what us actors do. Man, you should have seen Mariska.
Starting point is 00:02:59 The time I sassed off to her ex. She was like, wow, that was so inspiring. I'm going to host the Emmys. So, I don't know. I'm sure Charlie knows about this too, right? Right, Charlie? Right, Charlie? Right, Charlie?
Starting point is 00:03:08 Hey, man. No lies. No lies, bro. Yeah, but, you know, I didn't know of anything, so I don't really care. You know, I don't even eat fried chicken. Like, what's he going to offer me? You know what I mean? And to be fair, the crush was like from the very beginning. It's like he always had a crush. So, like, I mean, the second he saw a camera, he got a crush.
Starting point is 00:03:26 So, I mean, I think he's been pretty consistent. Yeah, yeah, basically. You want to talk more about that? No, not really. We'll dig deeper into that in a bit. Arianna's like, dig deeper. And my heart is like, oh, my God. Oh my God. Oh, my God. Put my hand on my pink parable. Put my hand on my pink fable. It's like crazy. So, Liam's like, so are we going to dig into this after lunch? Is that what's going to happen after lunch? And this, by the way, this begins Liam's obsession with lunch on this reunion. Because then every time we see Liam after this, she's like, are we going to lunch? Will there be coffee at lunch? Do you think there'll be good snacks at lunch? Will there be salad? Are we going to have silverware or will it be plastic? Does anyone know any more details about lunch?
Starting point is 00:04:10 Lianne was like, why are we still sitting here? Like, how was there a whole segment about someone not wanting to go to lynch with an old man and we're having to sit here for 12 hours with one? What is this? So they go up for a break, they go out for a break and Charlie tells Ariana, you're doing such a great job of not making eye contact with me. Wow. Impressive, Ariana. That's really cool. That's not what I'm trying to do.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Okay. God, God, please be with me right now. Please be with me. Lord is my savior. Pastors and pastures. Sheep in the pastures. Please come to the pastures. Thank you, Lord.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Thank you. Bewhile, Brooks gets on to his phone. Hey, Pam, call 1-800-Icon. Oh, hello, mother. Well, hello, Brooks. How's everything going? Don't forget that you have to be aware that everything that you're saying now will be recorded and used against you.
Starting point is 00:05:07 on television, so be smart about watching things. Oh, so now is a bad time to tell you that I forgot the toilet paper in my butt, and now I have a rash. Oh, Brachy! Listen, I wanted you to be strong today, so I'm glad the second that you got a break, you called your mommy on camera. It's very sweet, brachshund. How are you? How was it going? I just feel like I'm being really aggressive.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Like before, I said, hey, that's not nice. You were at a crypto torture house. But like no one's listening unless I'm like direct and super agro like that. Well, you shouldn't have to get to that level to get people's attention, Brox. You're holding back. You just need to be you. If anybody tries messing with you again, change their starter. chance change their starter.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Thanks, Mom. Life is sourdough, Wrexie. Life is a sourdough. All right, well, this season we saw Friendships Forum and Vade from seemingly minor indiscretions to major blowups. I want to start with the unfollow that rocked the Tri-State area when Gia called Ava a liar on a podcast. This is like, it's sort of sad because, like, this is the only, they're like nothing for them to talk about with Gia. because like jia didn't really do anything this season except just sort of like way in on stuff so they're like oh yeah she had that fight in that first episode i think about like you know her mom unfollowing eva
Starting point is 00:06:48 won't we just be in into that yeah when teresa unfollowed eva so did you really feel like gea calling you a liar would impact your brand deals eva she's like um well i didn't mean like directly but it's just like when every single press thing about you is like negative, then, you know, that doesn't fucking help brand deals. Yeah, but you knew it was going to get public attention by bringing up my mom's name. So that's why you were like trying to talk about my mom to get like public attention for yourself. That's what like every young person wants is a fight with an older woman on a TV show that got put on pause. Yeah, I really don't think Ava is going to like,
Starting point is 00:07:32 mind that Teresa Judice well to get any attention. Like, I don't think that's like the form of, like, she's already making it with Kyle Cook. Like, she has different avenues if she wants it. Like, I don't think she needs to, like, gain clout by starting rumors about Teresa. I mean, come on. Teresa Judice on a Bravo show. She's like, I didn't really think about it like that.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I'm just, I'm like way less calculated than you are clearly. I don't calculate. off. So, well, I don't like think about it like that. I was just saying how it was feeling. Yeah, well, I'm the least calculator like person. Like no one puts numbers on me and then expects the answer. So. So Mir was like, hey,va, you know, if she said that back to you, you would get upset. She's like, well, I mean, she said that I'm like calculated. And like, like, you said it in the same podcast where you call me nasty. Like you said I'm calculated. Like, why is it like a, bad thing when I say shit. Like, that's what really pisses me off. And Ariana's like, well, I think,
Starting point is 00:08:37 like she said, it was a calculated move, though. Maybe not you personally, but like, like, that someone calculated something at some point in life. Like, that was like a really bitch move. Yeah, I was explaining, but you wouldn't let me finish. It's press. Like, I'm going to answer something regarding a situation and give my honest opinion about how I felt back then. It was like, yeah, but I just think there's like a way to do press with kindness. I mean, I'm watching, I'm like, what are they even talking about anymore? This is like, where is this? I'm like not following this.
Starting point is 00:09:07 They're just talking, like, somehow this started about like Teresa unfollowing her. And now they're talking about like philosophically how one should approach doing the press. Yeah. Teresa unfollowed her. She had said that that was a lie. And Ava's like, oh my God, you caught me a liar. Now I'm going to lose brand deals. By the way, I texted your mom the other day.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Then I asked her if she unfollowed Ava. and she told me, stop texting me, Margaret, and you fucking bitch, I still hate you. And I said, this is Andy, and she said, Andy who?
Starting point is 00:09:38 And I said, Andy Cohen. And she said, and then it was the dot, dot, dot, dots moving back on the screen for a little while. And then she just wrote back,
Starting point is 00:09:46 ah, so it was fun. It was good to see her. But, Ava, she doesn't even know who you are. She doesn't remember whether she unfollowed you or not.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I mean, tracks. She did, when I asked her, she said, Honestly, I don't remember. And then I followed up with, can you name one of the United States that starts with the letter M? And she said, honestly, I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:10:10 And then I said, at a stoplight, what are you supposed to do? And she then texted, honestly, I don't remember. So, to be fair, it's not a lot she remembers. I said, are you sure? then she sent me a meme of herself pushing me down into a charity reunion. So anyway, Dia, Tia from TNAC, wow, said, do you think you, do you think you have to have a thick skin to be on TV? Who needs a thicker skin?
Starting point is 00:10:42 Eh? She's like, oh, yeah, like, I think them three over there, Charlie Aven Shy. Like, it'll come with time, no. You know, people haven't been on reality TV for like 20 years like me. Oh, my God. Gia acting like she's been starring in her own reality show for years. That's hilarious. She's like, they'll got it.
Starting point is 00:11:03 They'll got it. Call me if you need how. Charlie's like, first of all, objectively, no, I have like the thickest skin here by far. Maybe only trumped by my friend who gives blow jobs in the bathroom, literally just blew Andy during our break. And he's like, well, you're protesting that your thin skin makes you seem a bit thinsy. He's like, yeah, I know. That's like the irony, right?
Starting point is 00:11:23 So George just says, yeah. these three are like the only ones who have complained about things that have been said about them in the press and charlie's like i mean who else is getting dragged on a regular basis like why the fuck would i not be upset like that's awful because yeah like you don't open your mouth and like not say my name so why wouldn't i be upset there's like a watch what happens segment it's like zocore more more i like i wake hungover i wake up hungover i'm like what's up world i'm getting fucking eaten alive by old people on fucking ticot what the fuck I know, but like, I see stuff that you say about me. He's like, I haven't said one bad word about you. And Ava's like, no one says anything bad about you, Georgia. No, you have an unhealthy obsession with me. It's like sick. It's sick.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Like, what the fuck? It's gross. It's fucking scary, Georgia. Like, oh, God, you think Georgia has an unhealthy obsession with you? Yeah, there's like not one person in this entire audience. Temperature taking. Not one person in this entire audience that doesn't fucking. agree with me.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Wait a second. I thought there was not a live audience. I'm so confused. Are there going to be people in seats in front of us? So George is like, um, I would love to never see you again, Charlie, but we're filming a TV show. It's like, yeah, but unfortunately, your lifestyle has been given to you by me. She's like, oh, she's like, your lifestyle. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:44 She's like, you'd be on the streets. She's like, your lifestyle has been given to me because you get all of your money from my ex. And Brooks is just like laughing. He's like, he, he, he,
Starting point is 00:12:56 okay, did you, wait, Charlie, did you give her her lifestyle? He's like, yeah, did I give her her lifestyle? Your face was new, your personality is new,
Starting point is 00:13:05 no one knows you now, you're a fucking scary new person who enjoys things like, quote unquote, grocery stores, and bacon, egg and cheese sandwiches that you say,
Starting point is 00:13:15 Cuomo says incorrectly. I don't even know who you are anymore. All right, I want to move on, Brooks. A clean from Landia said, Why is Brooke so angry and shy? He's like, um, honestly, it's something I never talked about during filming.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Shy and I had a conversation prior to Amira's birthday party where Shy said he felt like he was on like the outskirts and wanted to feel closer. So I was going to make an effort with shy and I told him about things that made me uncomfortable. For instance, George's friend Cooper asked me really invasive questions about Charlie in the crypto house. And I told shy, and literally two days later, you told him everything I said. And that's where this all started. Brooks, nothing has happened where you haven't gone to everybody else on the cast to immediately tell them what has happened.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I know. So the issue is so Cooper, Cooper who formerly in partnership for Yuck branding TBD, Cooper asked invasive questions about Charlie and the crypto house and decided. And so Brooks told. shy about what Cooper was asking and then two days later shy told Cooper that Brooks was had brought this up. So if you really dig into this, this is the classic case of the person who was messy, then getting upset that someone exposed their messiness, the original person and is blaming the exposure, which we've seen time and time again on reality TV, but that's what's happening here.
Starting point is 00:14:52 But Brooks sort of like, the way he says it, he says it as if there was like something like deeply personal that was exposed. He's like, he asked really invasive questions. No, Cooper was asking you if you knew any gossip about the crypto house and you didn't like it for whatever reason. You thought that he was being messy. So you, so you like talked about him, probably mocked him behind his back to shy. And shy was like, yo, Brooks had been talking about you. And then Brooks is like, how could you even do that when I brought. you into this group. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial. Basically, the point is that the source of this entire feud is so shallow and silly that it makes me just love this show even more. It's just so stupid. I don't even understand the fight.
Starting point is 00:15:47 You just explained it, but it still doesn't make any sense. Like he's kind of saying, Cooper asked me invasive questions. So he's like the victim because Cooper was hurting him. And then. How does he hurt by the invasive questions? I was just so Brooks to be like, I'm so victimized. Like last week when he was telling Amira, as someone who's had my sexuality questioned, I mean, it's like you're still talking about Jen Shaw from season two. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Come on. Like, how are you this hurt by everything that goes on around you, sir? So I think that Cooper asked questions like, did you know about this crypto house? Because you and Charlie are really good friends. I feel like you knew something and you're not saying it. Are you covering for Charlie? You probably asked questions like that that made Brooks feel really uncomfortable. And also made Brooks feel like he was going to be linked to this torture house.
Starting point is 00:16:40 And he didn't like that. Which also explains why Brooks was like really skewed out by Charlie all season long. Because Cooper asked some sort of question that made Brooks feel like, does everyone think I'm part of the torture house. I'm not part of the torture house. This could ruin my entire life. So I think that's what he means by the invasive questions. Because I mean, what sort of, Brooks himself is super critical of Charlie and the torture house as he should be. So why is he bugged out about Cooper asking quote unquote invasive questions about the torture house? He's just making himself a victim because Cooper got mad at him for talking shit behind his
Starting point is 00:17:14 to shy, basically. So he's making himself like Cooper asked me invasive questions. He might be all my fallback. So Georgia is, oh, I press the space button and then that moved me somewhere. Sorry. So, yeah, so Brooks is like Georgia and Georgia's like, I mean, like, shy.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Like, I know you definitely were talking about me and Brooks now conversation because Cooper just called me and he was my best friend at the time like before I, you know, fired him. And no one told me. And he's like, no, no. Like, I know Cooper was talking about you.
Starting point is 00:17:51 but like I didn't say anything bad about you. I mean, I don't remember at all talking about Brooks. Like whatsoever. Like, what? What? Where are we right now? I don't even know. Like, what time was lunch?
Starting point is 00:18:02 What time do people have that? It's weird thing. It's like a concept to me. I will, I'm not being made out to be this crazy person. I don't do this shit for fun. I don't lie. Stop being invasive. George was like, I don't know Brooks to like make things up or lie.
Starting point is 00:18:19 so he's excused. We watched you lie multiple times throughout the season. Just watch back the episodes. Does anyone agree with what Brooks is saying? And she was like, oh, I think there's truth to it. And Amira agrees to. And she was like, what? Did I just lie?
Starting point is 00:18:36 You guys are just saying that that I lie? Amira's like, well, it's not that you lie. It's just sometimes I think that you're really, like, disingenuous, okay? And I say this is a person who's skied with a Birken while she was doing a TikTok. and doing her lipstick for followers. Liam's like, yeah, bro, I think that you're like, hi, let me tell you something. As the actor, I feel like I should weigh in on people being disingenuous.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I think you're very focused on being friends with everybody, and you were like trying to be boys with me, and then the whole situation with Hudson was like wrong, and I just like, you're just like a fucking telephone, bro. Shia's like, what? Do you feel guilty about speaking to Hudson, about, and Liam? about Liam? He's like, I mean, quite frankly, after that, I like learned my lesson, call her out at all time, right? And like, Ariana and I talked. And since then, I've been like trying to try my best to like completely stay out of business. Wait a second. I just realized something. Did someone tell you that at the reunion you need to call her out? You got to call someone out? He's like, yeah. You know this. It was call her out, not call her out. Oh. Oh shit. you want to put that back into your blazer now?
Starting point is 00:19:51 Well, I just want to say it's me, Ariana, and, like, his heart's in the right place. And, like, if I thought you had a malicious intent behind it, I would have, like, given you a lot more shit for it. Yeah, but Brooks, honestly, like, I've said this throughout the season. Like, I was so confused why you're so frustrated with me. And he's like, I just told you why, and you're denying it. Yeah, it's because you, like, go from one person and then you tell them something, and then you go to the next person. And then you tell them, like, the opposite thing. He's like, um, but like, honestly, I was like truthfully overplayed, you know?
Starting point is 00:20:20 And I just, I don't, I don't know. I've tried to be nothing but kind. Okay, guys. By the way, Gia is the telephone of this group. And I don't know why shy is getting all the shit. I like shy. I'm sorry, I may eat my word later on because like the moment that you declare that you like someone on Bravo is the moment they do some problematic shit and get into trouble. And then you have to like, you're just like, you now put it on the internet that you like this person just did something terrible.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Okay. But you know what? I've been down that path so many times at this point that I just, don't care anymore. I like shy, and I think they're being too mean to him, and they all better back off. Yeah, I mean, I like shy, okay.
Starting point is 00:20:55 He does deserve to get some shit, but you're right. Like Brooks and Gia do this stuff. All they do is just guys. It's just shy is the one who's obviously being led by production for every little thing, and Charlie, and they hate Charlie. Like we saw production be like,
Starting point is 00:21:10 okay, you're going to go tell, you're going to go tell them, right? He's like, okay, I can do this? I can do this? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Can I do this? Okay, I can't.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I can. I'm going to go talk to Hudson. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. Okay. Oh, my God. Where am I? What street am I on?
Starting point is 00:21:22 Am I in the city still? Is this Brooklyn? Like, where the fuck even on my right now? It's like all so new to me. So then, so, uh, they're saying, yeah, Shai, you go to what? George is saying how he goes to one person and tells him the opposite. And Chai goes, I think I've like, like, that was like truthfully overplayed. And I don't think that happened much.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I'd, like, tried to be like nothing but kind. And Brooks goes, well, me too. I texted you, congratulating you on the season 2 premiere, and you had surgery, and then, like, they checked in on you. And so I was like, don't bring my tonsillectomy into this, bro. I hope you don't treat your customers like this, because I also bought one of your sweaters. Like, oh, my God. Like, a customer is always right. He'll start laughing.
Starting point is 00:22:07 So, um, Gio, wow, God, you're born, though. of me. You out to the girls' night, but an argument between Riley and Georgia instantly ended up all over the internet. So we see that flashback. Riley, when you saw it, it was obviously different from your recollection. And she's like, yeah, I was, like, really embarrassed when I saw it. And my comments were distasteful. And I just felt really bad about it. Okay. Well, that I just almost fell asleep right away. Well, we got a lot of viewers, Riley, about you being critical of Georgia for not having a burkin. And it was like, can we clarify there was a Minnie Kelly and not a burkin?
Starting point is 00:22:46 I just want to clarify things. And Riley's like, yeah, it was stupid. I don't even know why I said that. I don't even have a burkin. So I don't know why I made that comment. It was just like really stupid. But like, I don't know what I was talking about. I was dumb.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I don't know why I said it. Okay, cool. Well, guess what? Carolina cream pie. Just once ask the girls, if you tend to favor Riley. over Georgia. And Ariana's like, um, I do. No offense. I do favor Riley over you guys because that's my girl. So yeah, sorry, everyone. No, I know. I totally get it. Like, that's why everybody, like, walked away with her.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Like, I get that. Yeah, but she's also more tipsy than you were. And that's also why it felt like you were kind of antagonizing the situation, Georgia, because, like, you're looking at her and you're like, really, really? Keep going. I mean, Riley was coming at Georgia that whole night. And Riley's been making little comments at Georgia for two seasons now about the hand washing and how gross she is and stuff like that. And part of it is just Riley's charm. Like, I'm not going to hug you. I'm not like that. I don't hug people. You know, it's just like part of her charm.
Starting point is 00:23:59 But especially when she was drunk, she was just coming for Georgia really when she wasn't doing anything. And Georgia was just being like, okay, okay. I don't think it's fair to say she was antagonizing Riley. Right. But they do say, like, they seem to suggest that, like, Georgia is, like, not innocent in these situations. And that maybe stuff we are not seeing on camera is happening. And, you know, and so Riley is like, she's like, you know, like, you know, I, like, you know, I, it's not just me, basically. and then Gia's like, you know, Riley, I love you, but if she wants to comment back a little bit, she's got to defend herself in some way.
Starting point is 00:24:45 And I was like, I never said she can't. Like, I just want to say clearly, as we know, I was going through a lot. And I just came back from Korea where I drink culture is big. And I was just like drinking tequila like it was sojuice. So my bad. I've taken accountability. I've apologized. And yeah, like, you know, I also don't want to spend this narrative like she never says anything.
Starting point is 00:25:04 And so then Andy asked what the, what Candy's reaction was. And basically Riley says that she's talked to her a lot and she feels bad for embarrassing Candy because it's like what Rowan said before about Brooks Shields. And I have to say, speaking of Candy Burris, I don't know if this is a little bit of a side tangent, but I thought this was so good. I just felt like I wanted to share this because we did Crappy Hour last night and this happened today. And I would have brought up on Carpacier if I could have. But Candy Burris released a statement about Todd Tucker today because he's been, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:34 he has his trailer out for whatever movie he's doing about this. their divorce. And he's talking about how they had like three sums, like their whole marriage. So Candy released the following statement. She says, A man who has already hurt me to my core is furthering the damage by choosing to sensationalize our sex life to stretch his five minutes of fame. What consensually happens between a husband and a wife in the privacy of their marriage is exactly that private. His current behavior has only confirmed that I did the right thing by getting divorced. I do. I did. I'm done.
Starting point is 00:26:09 And I just wanted to share that because I love that for candy. And that's it. Yeah. Tud's so gross. I think Riley handled all of this segment really well. And she came prepared. I really liked her quote, I don't want to say I have a drinking problem.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I definitely have a drinking limit. There you go. That's great. I think that needs to be written down and repeated at multiple Housewives reunions. So she handled this well. She was just like, no, I was wrong. apologize period um and i ain't doing the whole thing of like oh my god they're but they're young but quite frankly they are young you know like part of being in your early 20s is like learning
Starting point is 00:26:50 what your drinking limit is and understanding it and like you know i you know i've said many times before like at a certain point like you can't be this age and this sloppy but i think like it's not a good look but truthfully if you're 23 you're 23 and you're like, over-served and being messy or whatever, it's not great. No one enjoys that, but that doesn't mean you have a drinking problem. It just means that you're 23 and you're drinking a lot because you just don't know your limit. You don't know yet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:22 And George is like, yeah, that's why I gave you so much grace because I was like, I've done crazy things from my drinking. And I was like, I really think that's just like an alcohol situation. So like, I got it. I got it. All right. Well, after apologizing to George. Riley pulled Ariana aside for heart to heart about Girls' Night, but who owed whom an apology? What's up for debate? Let's debate it.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Junky from Junkie Junkdown said after being confronted by Riley for not being there the way she needed to. Is there anything you would have done differently in that moment? Or do you think Riley was overreacting, Ariana? And she's like, well, she wasn't overreacting. I just want to be there for her. and I need to learn how to be better. Now, see, this is kind of the contrast. Riley was drunk that night and made an ass out of herself
Starting point is 00:28:15 and has been paying for it ever since on the internet. But at least it was entertaining and not completely filtered. And I feel like this cast is already, it's like they've already been on this show for 30 years and they've gotten too smart for all of the, too smart isn't a way, but media savvy for all. of it, to where all of their answers are political. It's like, well, I just want to be there for her in the best way I can possibly be.
Starting point is 00:28:44 And Amira, what's going on with Kevin? Well, you know, like there's a situation, which I'm not really discussing, but like the feelings about the surroundings. It's like, just fucking say it. Why is everyone so afraid to fucking speak about anything? It makes me crazy. It's like, are you all running for mayor? And so that Riley thing, at least there was someone like doing something real. you know i feel like it's a generational thing i feel like you know there's a lot of discourse on
Starting point is 00:29:13 social media about like this is how we handle conflict there's a lot of like therapy speak that happens a lot of there's a lot of like very earnest stuff out there and i think that like you know i think that honestly gen z you know they came up through a time when uh there was a lot of discourse about how to have discourse and so i think they that's they they they're that's how they apply it and you know that that's why we have so many people on tv where it's like your feelings are valid it's like there's been a lot of therapy speak that has infiltrated through you know all of this and in some ways it's it's actually very very good it's just we're so used to people in like middle-aged people who are um they've been through the ringer
Starting point is 00:29:55 a little bit and they don't care anymore and they just say it so i i totally agree they are kind of like holding back but i don't think that they're holding back like the love island thing right yeah i don't think they're holding back for their image i think they're holding back for their image i think they're holding back because I think it's actually maybe like a norm for the generation. Like this is how we interact with people. This is what we want to say. We want to be, we want to hold space for this and be respectful and appreciate your boundaries. And like theoretically, that's all great.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Yeah, but it's still, it's, I think what bothers me about it is it's kind of the Love Island thing, where you've got this whole Love Island reunion and they're like, oh, you know, that really pissed me up because Like, you went with this guy. And, like, that was, like, totally a breaking of girl code. Well, I didn't mean to do it. That's valid. Like, I feel for you, girl. I'm here for you. And it's just not real.
Starting point is 00:30:49 It's like you're saying, it's almost like when someone like Jacks on Vanderpump rules finally goes to therapy, you know, and I've always said about people like that. And obviously, I'm talking about a psychopath narcissist here, not discussed. But when you send somebody like that to therapy, they just learned. they don't stop their behavior. They just find better ways to phrase what they're, so there's still, it's almost like manipulation. It's like I'm still saying these shitty things and I still feel these horrible things about you, but now I've learned all these flowery HR ways to say it so you can't get upset about my opinion. And it's just annoying. It's like just stand behind your fucking opinion. It doesn't mean you have to be crying and drunk and cursing everybody out all the time.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I just feel like nobody will say what they really fucking feel. And it gets, it's just tiring, you know? It's like plastic. Yeah, but they'll get there. They'll get there. There's their first reunion and then they're going to want to. That's what Gia would say. They'll get there.
Starting point is 00:31:46 They'll get. They'll get. They'll learn. They will get there. They will get there. Don't you worry. Fame has a way of eroding good manners. So,
Starting point is 00:32:00 uh, okay. Rihanna, have you not? spoken to Riley in weeks what's going on and orion's like I mean I meant when I said that like I meant that like we had not spoken since the episode had come out and that was in a few weeks like what's going on with I was like so Riley says they texted briefly and like apparently this like moment I watch happens live minutes and like they're on bad terms but they're like totally fine and I was like I love you Riley I never want to be on bad terms with you and I think like watching the after show I was like in tears because it was like doubling down on the fact that everything that had like
Starting point is 00:32:30 on everything that had happened that night. So, so there was a little bit of a beef. She's like, I disagree because like, yes, I did, did I like make somewhat of a joke
Starting point is 00:32:40 about certain comments I made? Yes, because like, that's how I cope with crazy situations like that. But like, I don't want to seem like I was doubling down because like that's not true. But you're like,
Starting point is 00:32:48 but you're saying, I was a shitty friend. And she's like, I didn't say you were a shitty friend. I just said you were a friend that acted like shit. Like it's a little different. And like I said,
Starting point is 00:32:55 like there were like something that like, I could need, sometimes I could like need more of our friendship. and, you know, because we've had, like, so many conversations about it. Commercials. Here comes one right now. She's saying, well, you know, if I had been Ariana in that situation, I would have been, like, Georgia cut it out, or I would have been like, Ariana, let's go.
Starting point is 00:33:18 We're going outside. And everybody's like, but she did do that, Riley. Like, did you watch the episode yet? She literally did do that. And so Andy says, well, she said, what happens live that she didn't hear from you after the episode. So I guess you didn't feel like you owed her any further comment or apology? And Raleigh's like, no.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Like when she did text me and she was like, are you mad at me? I said, no, why? And then I didn't hear back from her. And then I saw that clip. I'm like, hurt my feelings, you know? Like, this TV thing is new for me. Like, I get it. You watch it back and you're reliving it again, you know?
Starting point is 00:33:52 And you want something fresh from me. But it's like, we've done this a million times. Like, we've already talked about this a million times. All right. Riley, after watching it, do you still agree with your critique of Ariana about how she's handled the situation? She's like, I mean, sometimes I just need more of like a whole, like, you know, like Liam and Jackson where we got a lemon thrown in his face? Yeah, man, still got a scar from that. It's actually good.
Starting point is 00:34:16 I think I'm getting more callbacks because of it. I look more weather. It's great. Love a lemon. Yeah, I would have liked that. Like, throw a lemon in my face. And then he's like, I don't think you would have liked that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Yeah. But not have been good. Yeah. So Andy tells Riley, you know, the reason I asked her if you'd reached out was because it seemed like you might have seen it and thought, oh, you know what? She actually did help me in the best way she could. And she's like, yeah, like she was trying to be a good friend. It's just like her and Amira and even Ava. They were like trying to help me. But like, you know, let's also remember when we filmed the after show, I hadn't seen the episode yet because we filmed the after show before that comes out. So I didn't see how bad I really was until later. Yeah, and I generally hadn't seen until it came out on TV and I was like, whoa, this is so much different than I remember. And to be fair, I just don't even remember it. I was blackout. But then immediately I got flooded with hate and I had to turn off my phone because I was getting texts. I almost had to change my number.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Luckily, my phone fell into the water. So I just used my third phone instead. And he's like, oh, well, something like, that'll be an obstacle to your relationships is that when you do your interviews for this show, you're asked to speak about how you felt. in the moment versus that you feel now. And even though you've moved past it and you've worked on it. And this has tripped up every single person on every Bravo show because you're all not very smart. And you don't realize that when you're doing the interview and you remember how you talked about
Starting point is 00:35:47 how you felt in that moment, but you don't feel that way now, you forget that that's how works for the other people too. So think about that. You're already zoned out. All right. It's actually really smart how they do the after shows because, they get them before they've seen it. And I think that that's so funny because a lot of them,
Starting point is 00:36:05 like they come on there and then they're all bitchy and they stand by them. And another example of the Valley where Kristen, this whole season was like standing up for Danny, you know, the entire season in the after show and be like, no, fuck Janet still. And then,
Starting point is 00:36:18 and then once she saw the audience reaction, she came and tried to change everything at the reunion and be like, no, I mean, I stand against Danny. Totally. But we already have all of that after show. so you can't completely lie, you know?
Starting point is 00:36:32 So it's kind of, it's messy how Bravo does it. And I like it. Yeah, we like that from Bravo. All right, so now they go on a break, and Brooks is telling Georgia, I feel like I'm being so intense, which is just so funny that Brooks is like, Mom, I've been so aggressive. Look at me. I'm crazy intense right now.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Watch out, everyone. Just with that little jacket. It's just so funny. He looks like a little kid going to like a Bolero Easter. And he's like, I was so intense out there. Good job, Rexy. So then everyone's just eating a step. And Ava tells Charlie, oh, my God, did I eat with that whole Charlie thing?
Starting point is 00:37:16 Or that whole Omar thing? I don't think we mentioned that comment. But when she was arguing with Georgia, she's like, oh, yeah, you're the one saying I'm using a man for money. the guy who fucked Omar for his AC. Yeah. I think we missed that. But that was a great...
Starting point is 00:37:34 That was like her big line of the episode was her saying that. And yeah, it was a good line. And Charlie's like... So good that Charlie's gonna steal it in a minute. Yeah. Yeah, she's going down, bro. So then Georgia, Gia and Georgia are talking.
Starting point is 00:37:51 And she is like, look, you know what? Georgia, you're trying to take accountability. And she's like, I know, I just, I feel like stupid. I feel like all this time I did not realize the breadth of selection at a grocery store. And now I do. I just feel stupid for not acknowledging that before. I just want to say, I think my dad is downstairs trying to take off my bathtub nozzle to fix it. And I'm terrified.
Starting point is 00:38:16 I just hear banging and clink, clink, clink. He's being very helpful, but I'm terrified. Okay. So, Gia is, sorry, I got a little lost because I was listening to banging in the house and wondering how much this is going to end up costing. So Gia's like, yeah, like Charlie Tang Zero accountability. Like, you know, like trying to implicate that you were hurt by the split of the friendship and the betrayal that he's going to be, then besties with your ex. What? Like, he needs to stop insulting you, Georgia.
Starting point is 00:38:50 It's not cool. But you don't need to react to it. So then Georgia checks in with Brooks, and he's a little stressed out. And she's like, yeah, but like, you're doing a good job. Like, I'm really proud of you. Like, you're, like, stymie up for yourself. Did you find an Easter egg? Good for you.
Starting point is 00:39:10 For you, Bruxie. And then now they go back to stage. Rowan's like, my leg looks like raw chicken when I get goosebumps. They're like, wow. And then, Gia's like, oh, my God, Andy, you're going to die. Guess who's on my phone? It's my mother. She's an icon.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Oh, my God, Andy. Are using her right now to get more famous? Stop it, Andy. He's like, ah, to research. Like, hi. So then we see Charlie talking to Georgia. He's like, Georgia, I promise you that if you would ever take responsibility for season one, I'll be your biggest fan again.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Okay, that's the truth. Just please, give me my speakers back. Please. Like, for what, though? And then Georgia about the Bluetooth speaker. It's all about the Bluetooth speaker. It's always about your first fight. And it's so funny that it's still that.
Starting point is 00:39:58 I love it. And then Georgia is mouthing. She's across the room. She's like, mouthing to Brooks. And she's saying dumb. She's mouthing dumb, dumb, dumb, and dumber to like Charlie, about Charlie, Eva and shy.
Starting point is 00:40:11 She's going, dumb, dumb, and dumber. And Rowan's next door and goes, you mean dumb and dumber? She goes, wait, how did you know that? How do you know how I was saying that? She goes, because I'm next to you, I'm listening to mouth it. Because she's like, job, Speaking to all you mouth it, you dumbass. All right, welcome back.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Well, the headlines. Everyone's very famous. Georgia, you appeared on Watch What Happens Live. You said Charlie's reputation before the crypto issue was not to invite him to your house. And were you joking? That's something like one of your friends actually told me, Charlie. He's like, who? Who the fuck told you that?
Starting point is 00:40:47 I don't remember. That's bullshit. You can't just say things and don't remember. I don't remember me. Okay, well, that's Teresa. And she's a classic, so she's allowed to say it. She's on speaker still. Oh, one thing I also wanted to point out was that right before this segment started,
Starting point is 00:41:03 I think it was right before this segment started, they were doing makeup on Charlie, and he's like, God, it's so hot in here, I'm fucking sweating. God, I'm sweating. I'm just nervous. I'm so nervous about this. He said something like that. And I just thought it was so funny because the beginning of the episode, and he was like, you don't really seem to get nervous.
Starting point is 00:41:17 He's like, I don't get nervous over this shit. And by the end of the episode, he was like sweating out of nerves. And I was like, yes. dragged down into the hell of a reunion. Yeah. Well, yeah, but like I heard from somebody that I don't remember who said it, but they said like when Charlie comes to your house, like he'll steal like a painting right off your wall.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Like that's just like his reputation. He's like, what? Nobody said that. Uh-huh. Georgia, you don't even throw parties. So like, let's be very clear about, yeah, I do. Like, I have clients and I'm not going to like fight you to every party I throw. That's like crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:52 It's like crazy I'm pro. frankly bullshit you have threatened you have not thrown a single party other than the bowling alley she's just oh my god like I do not need to give you my resume this is crazy have you traded a single crypto he's like of course I have
Starting point is 00:42:07 okay so let's see your open C wallet or coin bases see how I got you because that's what you said to the Italian that you tortured in your house it's like oh with pleasure I haven't last time I checked you hadn't Oh, last time you checked, what are you scouring the fucking blockchain?
Starting point is 00:42:25 Idiot? You're stupid. You don't even know what you're talking about. It's utterly untrue. Liam's like, are they going to be serving coffee at lunch yet? Like, we keep taking breaks, but there's never any lunch. You know who I'm surprised is super quiet as Ariana because they made her kind of the star of the season. And it's nothing.
Starting point is 00:42:48 It's nothing. It's zero. And Liam actually took the air out. of those sales really in the beginning when he's like, no hard feelings, win some, you lose some in love. My right, loves your real bitch. All right, that's it. No more questions, thanks.
Starting point is 00:43:02 She's not inserting herself into other people's fights, like Brooks is. So Andy is like, okay, Georgia, Albert from Camus, wants to know, besides the gay grapevine, what evidence do you have that Charlie and Omar were stealing your club club creative? She's like, um, the person who told me shared details about the club, that like,
Starting point is 00:43:21 like only I knew. and like you were using the same location. And Charlie was like, well, that's literally it. It's like, yeah, same name. It was like it was a barren building. It's like same concept of three floors. Like they came up with an idea of a three floor club. Like that's like crazy.
Starting point is 00:43:36 That's like my proprietary idea. It's funny that she says, you stole the concept of the three floors when they were probably in a space with three floors. You know what I mean? It's the same space. He's like, I did not steal the name. Club Club. That's the stupidest fucking name I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:43:56 The entire audience thinks so. She's like, I like the name. Yeah, well, that's great, Georgia. Then go do it. But you're not doing it because all your business partners fall off. All your cleaning products fall off. You don't even have a fucking cleaning product, Georgia, okay? She's like, well, what job have you ever had?
Starting point is 00:44:11 That's a good point that no one really seems to make here. When Charlie's like, oh, what do I fucking want to listen to Seth, that fucking house husband who does nothing? What do you do? What do you ever do? skateboard here and there. So Gia's like, why do you always do that to her? He's like, because it's true. It's like, you always try to insult her, always try to put it down.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Just stop. He's like, oh my God, I always try to insult. I was like, I mean, you shit on a brand, you shit on all of our ideas, you should on everything. I mean, you don't have to do that. They're stupid enough as it is. We don't need to pile on. Oh, please. Like, I'm insulting her today, like right now.
Starting point is 00:44:46 But it's not been like, I've like had a whole year of not insulting her. So where's that? I think it's insulting. Why aren't we talking about that? I think it's insulting to go into business with her ex-boyfriend. Brooks is right. And Charlie is like, I don't think that's insulting. And Roman's like, do you ever thank Georgia for introducing you to Omar?
Starting point is 00:45:05 He's like, for what? I haven't benefited from it financially. All that I've done is get shit for it. And they're like, you're friends with him. And Liam's like, well, yeah, you know, what's weird is that you're like going into business and you're bringing him on the show. You know, like, I mean, maybe if the business wasn't on the show, but like people are walking around the streets with like Omar t-shirts, you know, like Omar, he's really taken over. And how do you think that makes Georgia feel happy to see Omar on like movie posters and shit?
Starting point is 00:45:33 Are you still working on a business with Omar? He's like, I mean, we're certainly not doing anything related to that address. I mean, any membership club, any bowling alley, no club, club, club, club, blah, blah, blah, blah, none of that nonsense. So the answer is yes, you are still in business with him because that was not a straight answer. Yeah. And, uh, Gio's like, Charlie. Gia, please, you'll have to chime in on everything, Gia.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Jesus Christ, who even did on this show? Or are you even here? George's like, you cannot just, like, fathom somebody even, like, disagreeing with you, Charlie. And he's like, no, we made up. You can't fathom me want to be friends with Omar. She's like, it's the doing it under my nose. It's like, so much. She's like, under your nose, I don't know you shit.
Starting point is 00:46:15 And Gia's like, but you guys were friends. Ariana's like, yeah, I thought you said loyalty, right? and George is like, you're just like mad right now because like I didn't give you loyalty in season one. Like what fucking loyalty have you given me? Yeah, you know what? I was like courtful with you recently because like, you know, like I was not ignorant
Starting point is 00:46:36 to the fact that you're going to be on season two. So boom, I tried it. You know, and I thought like making you my enemy like maybe I didn't know that that was going to nuclearize to this extent. Okay? So like I was like trying. She's like, oh my God, do you like talking fucking
Starting point is 00:46:50 circles. Like you rewrite narratives. You kind of like, you like twist the truth and stop. And this is when Liam literally leans over to Gian goes, do you know if they'll take coffee orders for lunch? Like, did they have the firefighter special? Okay, you know, Georgia, I don't want to be your friend. Stop talking about me. Just stop it. She's like, well, I don't want to be your friend either. Stop talking about me then. I mean, it's so fucking ridiculous. Why don't you have a, why don't you have a problem accepting like you heard of feeling? Because it's not true.
Starting point is 00:47:22 It's not true. And Ariana's like, but that's what she heard. Well, I'm sorry that your delusional perception was not what was happening. But you're invalidating her. And he's like, well, okay. So wait, I'm sorry for someone else telling her wrong information. What the fuck? You got the fuck.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Yeah. And then he's like, let me ask you a question. If it was true, would you understand why she would be upset? And Charlie's like, if I was making a bowling alley, club absolutely. It's like, yeah, but like the information I was getting, like, I was like, I tried to call you and like you never picked up.
Starting point is 00:48:00 And Charlie's like, oh my God, you act like I'm like fucking rich from meeting Omar. Like you fucked him for AC but I'm an opportunist. Wow. Okay, well that one was stolen and so we're pretty much at the end of Charlie. All right. So let's wait until next time for more on this scintillating reunion.
Starting point is 00:48:18 And that is the end of the episode. That's it. They hate Charlie, but he was the entire reunion, pretty much, save for like six minutes of it. So, yeah. I don't know, guys. Good time, guys. Yeah, it was a fun one.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Thanks so much, everybody, for being here. And Ben, have an amazing vacation. I'm going to miss you, buddy. I'm going to miss you, too, but you're going to get some wonderful fill-ins. I'm sorry that I will not be there for Orange County tomorrow. But you know what? I'll just, like, record some sound effects that you can just, you can just insert. You can just insert me away.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Wow. David. And. I cat, bitch. And then Gino, I feel bad. And I feel bad. My turn. I feel really, really bad about them.
Starting point is 00:49:02 And you just insert those wherever you want to. And it'll be like I'm there. Okay. All right, everybody. Thanks so much. We'll talk to you later. Bye, everyone. Watch what crappins would like to thank its premium sponsors.
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