Watch What Crappens - #3547 Crappy Hour 9/21/26: Kempire and Crappens

Episode Date: September 22, 2026

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Hello, welcome to Crappy Hour and Kempire Hour. Welcome to the show, Kempire. Hi, how you doing? Hey, long time. Don't see. I know. Thank God for the internet, because this is like the only time I see people. I know. Same because I don't go outside. You don't go outside. You don't have to. Look at your view.

Campire just moved. Check out that apartment. I'm trying. I literally just moved not too long ago. But I'm getting it together. Be in my studio and then you guys won't be all in my business. Everyone's still going to be in your business. Yeah, everyone's still going to be.

Now, especially in your business because we see that view. Hell yeah. Okay. Everybody, I'm sure you already know Kempire, but if you don't follow him on YouTube, follow his podcast, and check him out live in New York City. at the Green Room 42, Friday, September 5th. 25th.

Did I say 5th? I'm literally reading it. What's wrong with me? It's how I walk around. There's also meet and greet and live stream tickets. You can get them at KempireafterdarkLive.com slash NYC. That's KempireafterdarkLive.com slash NYC. Do you just always introduce me and everything?

And just record that. Really? I just got the date wrong and I was reading it off of the thing. We'll fix it with AI. Shit, I need just a regular eye. So let me see here. I just saw a comment in here. Hi, everybody.

We're reading your comments on YouTube live. Where is this? It said something like Campire. I know you're not recapping Real Housewives of Orange County, but where is it? God, there's a lot of comments in here. Oh, and you stuff, right? Okay. Campire is not recapping OC.

So curious to have his thoughts of the season, if you're even watching, and also thoughts on Katie Janella's new podcast and all the accusations she's making. That's from OMG Steph. Hey, OMG, Steph, which is funny because I knew I was going to be here. I have been watching OC. That was my homework, torturing myself watching it. Oh, God. It wasn't that bad, though.

I have to say, watching it wasn't that bad, but it also wasn't that great either. Yeah. That's kind of what I believe OC represents. Like good old ashen American mediocrity. Like you just don't expect much. It's OC. You just kind of come and just let it go. How are you feeling about it? I just watch OC and I just kind of go through, go through it. Vicki makes me crazy. I'm not psyched that she's back. But as the season goes on, I'm really enjoying watching her kind of break down and people not take her bullshit. nice to see. Finally, the new girl looks like she's going to let her have it. I was just watching her relationship with that guy, her new guy. Michael is the name? I think it's. Yeah. I'm like, wow, I hope when I'm her age that I am not in a relationship where I have to sort of tap dance for my partner. That's crazy. Oh, yeah. How does she end up in another relationship like this? She's always in a terrible relationship.

some shit and it's kind of I always say you know Vicky dates a lot of bad men but the men also date a lot of bad Vickies you know it's not like Vicki's great that's true I don't know sometimes what you're saying she gets what she deserves well I don't want to say that because I don't know what if he turns out to be abusive or something and oh I don't mean it like that you know I know but it can it can't get dark on these things so I have to be careful I don't mean that I just I mean, you get the kind of fish that, I don't know, is bait relative to the kind of fish that you catch? Like if you put a nasty worm in there, are you going to get a good fish? I guess you will.

Maybe that's a bad way to put it. No, I get what you're saying because I've said that about. Puppies with honey, you catch bees. Yeah. I feel like with some of these other housewives, when Ashley Darby's a perfect example of this. Because for so long, we were like, oh, poor Ashley. She was with Michael Darby's cheating on her. And now that we fast forward to now in 2026.

and we see how Ashley navigates this group and she's kind of creepy as well. I'm like, oh, so that's why it works between her and Michael Darby. Yeah, and she had kind of a creep shield before because he was taking all the creep heat. But yeah, she can be a creep as well. I don't think anyone's as creepy as Michael, though,

Darby. I think Ashley might take the cake. Really? Yes. I never saw it before until recently. I'm like, oh, that's, That's why it worked or worked. Yeah.

Well, they, yeah, they prowled together. Wee. All right. So what else is going on here? Let me read some of these. Foxy the Swede says, I think she has low self-esteem when it comes to men and being around the other housewives. I think so, too. And, you know, sometimes people, and this is Vicki we're talking about still.

I think so, too. I mean, I get that, like having low self-esteem and stuff like that. I just keep myself cordoned off for the most part. I think that that's our responsibility. I have a podcast where I get all my negativity out. I don't need to take it out on, you know, a man, I guess. Yeah. Well, that's good.

That's very mature of you. It's just exhaustion, honestly, at this point. You're too tired to do it. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so what are your thoughts on the state of Bravo in general right now? What are your favorite shows that are airing to least? I was about to say the Traders, but then I was like, wait, that doesn't air on Bravo. Close enough.

Close enough. The Traders, New Blood, I'm loving that we're getting back to just regular, or deGular people. I mean, I love the celebrity version, but I really love season one where it's a mix of both because I feel like reality stars, how to counteract with other reality stars, but they don't know how to interact with regular people. And I know they're regular people, but you get what I'm saying. Yeah, and the celebrities kiss each other's ass a lot more. It's really hard to get people accusing each other of stuff.

I mean, this one, the very first one, and of course it's the one who's like, I'm a Southern mom and the only, I love my sons. You know, boy, hashtag boy, mom, I'm just sweet as pie. And you know what, one, One thing I'm afraid of on this show is that it's going to be a witch hunt and then someone's going to just come after somebody for no reason. And then by the end of the episode, she's like, it's her. She's the witch. Or it's he. They're the witch. Get him. And immediately turned and got a really evil face on her. I was like, of course. Of course. I loved every second of it. Because this is like a new reality star to us. Like this is a completely different person that we never met before. And now we're being introduced to the crazy that really exists in the world. Yes, because I could imagine her kind of on a TikTok being like, do you belong in this neighborhood? Sorry. Is her name Karen? She did give me like TikTok Karen vibes.

I mean, did you see that hair? Yeah. And I was thinking because I did think it right when I saw her. And I thought, you know, don't stereotype that. That's just as bad as what you're accusing her of doing in your mind. And by the end of the second episode, I was like, called it. Called it. So who do you think is going to be in the top three of this new Traders' guest?

Oh, it's too soon. It's too soon. For some reason, I always kind of root for the traders. And I don't know why. But I always got a root for the Traders. Right now I'm rooting for the Traders because Faithfuls usually are pretty dumb. And we say dumb lovingly because, God forbid, we were in their place. We probably would also be very dumb, too.

You know? Yeah. Well, it's one of those where we feel smart because we know we know who the killer is. I mean, they tell us. If we had to guess, I don't think we'd feel very smart. I don't think what I would guess it. I love about this new season, though, the whole accomplice idea where they have to choose between these two faithfuls on whether or not they're going to become traitors. And they also are implicated in regards to knowing who was murdered.

I'm like, I like this little change of events. Okay, so they have to choose. So there's two people that Alan just tells them, these two people could be a traitor, but first they have to find a card in a book after who. And you have to, so there's all these hijinks that they have to do to become the traitor. Isn't that what determines who's going to be traitor? Yeah.

The other one just gets killed. But that's a new thing. They've never done that before. Yeah. I wish they could just bring those football players mom back. I really liked her. She was like the worst traitor of all the time. And she was gone very quickly, Travis Kelsey's mom.

I was just, I rewatched that season as well before this new season of traitors. And I was glad when she got murdered, well, not murdered, revealed. Damn, I'm like Porsche from that season. I'm just, I would have told them myself. My God. Well, that's what happened on this trader.

It was another Porsche where someone said, I'd have killed. Or I'd have felt bad killing so and so. And she's like, oh, I heard you say, I felt bad killing so and so. I swear I heard it, I heard it, Burner. Yeah. See, that's what would make me so nervous playing the game

speaking out of turn. Yeah. Not meaning it. Like, would you wanna be a traitor or a faithful? I would wanna be a traitor. And I think Candace said it the best. I said, why would you wanna be a traitor? And she's like, it's the title of the show.

Like, duh, you want to be the star of the show. So I would want to be a traitor on the traitors, but I would be horrible at it. But I think I would be also terrible at being a faithful. I think I would be bad at both, but I think our commentary, sorry about that. I thought I'd turn my notifications off. I'm more professional than this. Please hold. Sorry.

We're not. Those things, that could have been mine. No, no, it was, and I'm meant to turn it off. But anyway, I would, I think. Both of us, even if we were a traitor or faithful, our commentary in the confessionals would be, la. Yes, I think I would excel at that because it's just being, you know, shitty behind people's back and stuff. But I think I would be voted off really quickly. You think?

I just, yeah, I think whether or not I was telling the truth, people would be like he's a fucking liar, get rid of him. You know what I like to do. You don't think. No, I don't think you would be. I probably would be, and I would probably say this my confessional, and I'd probably say this to Alan Cummings as well, very much like in the horror movies. On traitors, the black person always dies first.

Just saying, it seems to be the train. That happened a lot with the drag queens that they would have on the show. They would get off really, really quickly. And I feel like it happens with the gays, but I feel like this time they really stacked the gays. There's a lot of gays on there, right? There are, they were eating me up in the comments, Ronnie, when I did not mention Bianca del Rio.

And I said, guys, I know who she is, but I'm not a drag race fan. I don't watch drag race. I know a lot of the stars. I mean, I know Bob Drag, I know Moni Exchange. I know Bianca Del Rio. However, I didn't recognize Bianca outside the drag. And I didn't, the people that follow me and watch me,

watch me for Housewives. talked about the housewives mostly. Yeah. Those are dueling fandoms I find. Apparently. It's rare. Yeah, there's like a, there's Bravo queens, and then there's drag race queens. And very rarely do they meet

in the middle. But they were educating me in the comments about, about Bianca, and I'm kind of excited to see her play this game. They're always good. Drag queens have all been good on this show. They've all been really, really funny. I mean, Bob the drag queen, I didn't know who that was,

and huge fan now. Yeah, so funny. So good. Who else is on this new traders? I brought it up. Let me look here. And this isn't the one that's on now. Cynthia Bailey, the peach life.

Is she going to sing for us? Oh, Cynthia. Cynthia. So Bianca Del Rio, Bowman Martinez-Reed, who's from TikTok. He's really funny on TikTok. Oh, yeah.

Why is that guy so hot? Yeah, I looked him up. He was for Bowman. Did I say Bozman? No, no, you said Bowman. Okay, Bronwyn. Oh, yeah. Bromben, Newport.

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Now, I think Bronwyn would always look like she's lying. Because she does the headbub. Also, she lies a lot, but she's always like, Yeah, she does. Casey Wilson is going to be on there. I wasn't sure if that was Casey or not, because I was like, that doesn't look like Casey.

I'm, oh, I don't even, here, let me fast forward down to the pictures. Boom, man. No, it is Casey, though. Yeah, that's Casey, yeah. Chloe Kim, Olympic snowboarder. Wait, did I pass Jezelle? Where's Jazella at the very top? Oh, I'm sorry.

I'm looking at the other one. You're going in order. I'm sorry. Keep going. Oh, yeah, I'm just scrolling through pictures. Yes, yes. Okay, Bianca Delria, okay. Damn it, you made me scroll.

Oh, Chloe Kim. Okay, this is where I lose it with the sports people. I don't understand who anybody is. And they make people cry because it. They're like, we did this for America. How could you get rid of us? We fought for America in the Olympics. I'm like, I don't care.

I will say it. I love seeing, who was it? I was about to say Tanya Harding, but it wasn't Tanya Harding. Yes, that's who we need. You need to start working in casting. Tanya Harding and Nancy. Throw Nancy Kerrigan.

Both of them there. Can you imagine? Yeah. That's when I pay attention to sports. When a girl gets. her ex to come after another girl with a crowbar. Then I'll pay attention. That's a real drama.

Yeah, hell yeah. Okay, Cody Simpson singer. Who's that? American singer. I remember him. I couldn't tell you a song by him, but I just remember the name. He released albums including Surfers Paradise, and he toured the globe. And he also made his mark outside of music.

His screen credits include finding. Cody, Bucket and Skinner's epic adventures, Cooner Town, and he had it coming. Okay, Craig Conover. You all know him. Craig. I don't watch Southern Charm. I know about his relationship with Page, but that's, that's about it. What do you, how do you feel about, about Craig?

Oh, Southern Charm is just horrible douchebags fighting with each other and treating their girlfriends like shit. And Craig is a compulsive liar. Yeah, but he's a really charming, really cute douchebag. And one time he got in a fight with his girlfriend at the time because he was just staying home all day. And he was pretending that he passed the bar exam, but he never did. He was just telling people he did. And I think he was just sitting at home, like being a stoner, that's what I think. But he got a sewing machine and he started sewing squares, you know, like making little pillowcases.

And she's like, all you do, sit around and sit around. sew all day. And he said, but what's the matter with my sewing? And then one of his friends, who's like a very successful businessman, was like, let's make you a pillow company. And so now he's like a male Martha Stewart want to be kind of a guy. And he's still a compulsive liar and stuff, but he's really cute. Now he's rich. You really ruined my image of this man. I knew nothing else besides his relationship with Page. And I was like, oh, he's handsome. And then I was like, Oh, so he's a loser. He's a liar and a loser.

And a winner. He lied so much. He lied himself into becoming a winner. I still don't think the man can sew more than a square. But he's got like a huge, you know, is it doing well? Homemaking company. Yeah, I think so.

He's like on the cover of Home and Gardens magazine. And he's just smiling as charming smile. Or it'll be like, the home show, Denver, sold out. Craig Conover appeared. You see pretty privilege? You see how far people can get away with being good looking and really have no real talent? Yeah. Wow.

Sorry, Craig. I had to say it. Well, I mean, good for him. You said he was cute. He was cute. He won me over. I know, exactly. I own a pair of his sweatpants.

My friend got them for me. He has sweatpants? Yeah, he has a store called Sewing Down South, and so they sell all sorts of merch in the store. and someone got me sweatpants. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappins commercial. Oh. Are they good?

They're zoned very well. I will say. But yeah, anyway, he's... Yeah, he's a compulsive liar, so it'll be interesting to see. He'll probably be like the Tom Sandoval of this show, like just a big idiot accusing people. Oh. Well, Traders has been really good about introducing me to people that I really haven't been introduced to before from reality TV.

So that should be fun. Yeah, it's made stars out of a lot of people. Yeah. And it's really redeemed a lot of real housewives people who left their shows kind of not well received. Like Candice, I think had a big resurgence on this. Fadra. Fadra's the biggest one, for sure. Lisa Rina.

I mean, it definitely did. It definitely did. I don't know why it did, but it definitely did. Because I just rewatched it. I was like, she really wasn't that great. After rewatching, like, no, I think it was because she's such a dodo, you know. And she's just so campy like she was on the soap operas back in the day. Like, oh, you think you're going to get me.

I'll get you first. And I think there was a lot more people to hate on that cast. So she ended up looking like an angel. Yeah, she, well, an angel, but I don't know, I don't know. They're all right. That show so camp. I love it. Cynthia Bailey, as you mentioned.

Cynthia Bailey. She could last a long time. On Big Brother. Did you watch her on Big Brother? She was on Big Brother? Celebrity Big Brother. Oh, yeah. I guess I did watch that.

But it would be interesting to see if she can last on this game, just sort of like playing under the radar, but she's very friendly and personable, so I can see her lasting a while. And if there's someone in the turret that likes her, they might keep her around longer. And she's good at not really making waves, you know, just kind of being likable.

Yeah. She'll make waves if you're calling her boring. Like she'll come back for a season and be like, oh, really, really, Portia? Kind of kick Porsche in the stomach or whatever that was. I love that season. activated Cynthia. I kind of wanted to see Cynthia and Crystal

in the same season and make one of them a traitor so that it can break up their friendship. Very dark. It's actually lasted a long time, I feel like, for two housewives to partner up outside of the housewives world. Yeah, I think because they really get each other. You know, sometimes it doesn't work.

Chemistry doesn't necessarily work. They have chemistry. Yeah, and they both show up all the time, which is also, I feel like, rare for kind of a housewives, like two reality stars in general. Although Tamara and Teddy have been also doing it for a long time. They've been going strong. What do I know?

Dominic Monaghan. You just mentioned two other ones. There's not that many. Yeah, out of all of these years and all of these housewives. 20 years. Okay, Dominic Monaghan, he's not looking like I think that he's supposed to look. Hold on. Let me see who he is.

Who is he? He's an actor? Film and television actor, best known for playing Mary. in the original Lord of the Rings film. Oh, he's Charlie from Lost. That's how I know who he is. Oh, yeah, that is Charlie from Lost. How the Mighty have fallen.

You're on reality television. That is a big one to be on reality TV. Like a Lord of the Rings and Lost actor. Yeah. He doesn't look like he's a Lord of the Rings. Just saying. Give that ring back. Give that ring back.

Flash forward. X-Men Origins, Wolverine, Pet, and Longshadow. Okay, so it's not that far of a fall. Okay, so Amira from NextGen. Yes. Do you watch Next Gen? I watch season one. Season two, I just never got into it,

but I've been hearing about what's been going on on season two. I don't know. I just feel like that's not my era. Like, I don't know. I just can't get into their drama. Embrauds. I can't. Brooks.

Brooks. Not kidding. Every episode, they're like, Mel, see, what's Brooks doing? I'm making sourdough. And then they just show him making sourdough. One time he made it in a turkey shape. So, ratings chuggernaut.

How are you feeling about NextGen NYC? I like it because we cover it. I don't know that I would watch it if we didn't cover it. But I do watch it and I crack up. They're just really dumb. You know, they're just young. Young in the city. They're like, what?

What's that? What's that river called? Which way's north and which way south? Oh, ho, youth. That's the extent of it. No way. So, Giselle. Giselle's going to be trouble on this show.

But entertaining. At least, this is a space. This is why I probably enjoyed Fager in this space. Because at least here, it's not involving anyone's personal story. family. It's just her playing a game and she can just show up and be calculated and funny. I think I'm going to love her in this space. I hope. You know, Jizel's taken me years to finally just get used to Jousel and accept her for who she is. Because I would get so upset with Jazel. She's always coming for people for no reason.

She's always betraying everybody. She doesn't really have a lot going on. But now I think it's really funny for some reason. Like I'm loving the, I'm loving her on. girl's trip, even though she's doing the same thing, like, you were late. And that was going to be her thing forever. And now it's the, what is she upset about now? Oh, Luanne. You know, I guess when you're on her side of whatever she's, whoever she's annoyed with, when you're on her side against whoever she's annoyed with, suddenly it's entertaining, you know.

She has her moments. Yeah. I look over to watch Karen eat her up. Oh, yeah, me too. She's going to be accusing people. that's Jezelle's what Jezelle does. And you, ma'am, the way that you spoke the other day at breakfast.

I see you. I wonder who's going to be a traitor. That's what I wonder. Gosh, I don't know. There's so many people. Let's see. I kind of want, because they went so housewives the last time, I kind of want them to go the other direction

because I want to see the gamers play the game because they're going to make it interesting for everyone watching. Yes, I don't want the Housewives to go early either, but I really would like to see the gamers play this game. Yeah, the gamers do make it more interesting. And I think the Housewives would be more interesting if they weren't so paranoid about looking bad.

Yeah. On the show, it's weird, right? Because on Housewives, that's the whole point. You know, they get messy. But on this show, they're very careful about not getting too messy. It's not why I'm watching this. Exactly. Ooh, this one's good.

Ian Sterling, the comedian from Love Island. He does all the voiceover is on Love Island. Oh. Do you watch that? No, I could. It's another show that just requires too much of my life to get into. And also, I just feel like it's not, I'm not an old man, but I sometimes feel like an old man watching certain shows. I'm like, I can't watch those.

I've tried. I've watched Love Island. Okay. I can't. It's too much. Yeah, yeah. You know what? I am an old man and I am too old to.

be watching. I do feel like a pervert watching Love Island. That's Ben, Ben loves Love Island. That's like his favorite show. A lot of people do. And yeah, a lot of, but that's like his thing. So we watch, I watch it kind of like to support my, my husband, my work husband. Your work husband. I'm not very supportive though, because I do bitch about it the whole time. But I feel like a pervert. I'm like, they're 20. I'm like over double some of their ages. And it just feels weird. It makes me wonder how Andy Cohen feels. He's hot. How does Andy Cohen host a show when he's like triple their age?

Yeah. What did you feel when we made out with her? Do you think that was fair? And then they start crying and stuff. I just, I feel like shut up. I want you to be old and on your second divorce. Not yours. You got to get married first.

Yeah, or the tail end of your marriage. Like you come on housewives to get rid of your husband, you know, like Bronwyn with Todd, where she's like, I'll just bring this man on and showcase what an asshole he is and then have the whole world on myself. That's what I want in my reality people. She's very good at that. Jag, Jag, Jax Baines from Amazing Race. I don't watch that one, do you? Oh, he was on Big Brother, too. He won both.

See, that's a gamer I want to see play this game. Jag is really a good gamer. So that's the one I want to see. Because I'm all, look, outside of the bravo world, I love myself, myself some big brother. Love it, love it. Yeah. Big brother, I have a love, love, love hate relationship with, mostly love, but I've just watched so many seasons. And this season, I was like, no, I'm not doing it.

And then I heard it's the best one that they've had in years. No, I wouldn't say that. That's a lie. It's good, though. Oh, really? It's not their best that they had in years, especially the last few years. They've had some good ones. No.

No. Well, I do love watching Angela. in an egg costume. That's the clip that Ben keeps sending me every time. It's Angela

having a nervous breakdown while dressed like an egg. She's insane. She had quite a few nervous breakdowns this season.

Oh, yeah, that's how she rolls. Yeah. Janay from Love Island. You don't watch that. I know, I know the face. She was great on Love Island.

Oh, she's stunning. Oh, you mean, yeah. She's a stunner, for sure. Joey Grizziali from the Bachelor. Hmm. Cute. Season 20 of the Bachelorette as runner up. And then the star of The Bachelor, season 20.

Wow, I really fell off on that show. Who the hell is this guy? No, I have no ideas. Who knows? We may end up loving him by the end of the season. Yeah, who knows? Johnny's still, God, there's a lot of people on this, huh? I'm talking about, okay, I'm going to start going faster.

John Sibili actor from Great Canyon. Oh, queerest folk, pose, and hacks. Even before that, he's a bit like a content creator. He used to create content on social media. He's been around a long time. He's funny. He's funny. Oh, he's cute.

He has a very serious headshot. His headshot is like, hello, I'm handsome. So, okay, that's good that he's funny. Yeah, but he's very quirky and funny. So that headshot really doesn't do him justice. Kristen Chenoweth, popular. I'm surprised she's going to be on here. Right?

I'm kind of feeling like, and this is coming from something that that recaps and talks about reality television. I'm just sort of like, there's certain people I just feel like, you're doing reality television, a competition show? I mean, her Broadway show was canceled, so okay, I get it. Never mind. Yeah, she had a, she had a canceling ear because she was in that Queen of Versailles Broadway show, and then she also got canceled herself during that.

Yes. What was she, I think of like sticking it for Charlie Curry or something? Some like. People like, no, no, no, no, no, man. This is Broadway. Yeah. So now I get it why she's here. Yeah, so she's doing a little sweeping up, I think.

Michelle Fitzgerald from Survivor and the Challenge. But you know, I have to say the show turns me on to gamers that I've never met before, and I'm like, oh, I see why you're a legend. Oh, yeah. Did you watch The Last Survivor? No, I never watched Survivor, ever. It's like the 50,000th anniversary or whatever. It was good. Q.

I heard he's one to watch. He's good. Yeah, he's good. He'll be good on this show. Rachel Robinson from The Challenge. I don't watch that one. It's too much exercise on that show. Rashad Jennings, NFL Star, again.

Oh, he looked familiar. Exercise. He looks familiar, though. I don't know why. It looks familiar. NFL. Taylor, Hail, Big Brother.

Wow. Love Taylor. Taylor's on here. Yeah, I like Taylor too. I'm interested to see how she'll be on Big Brother. I remember talking to her about doing the Traders because I was like any other reality show you would you want to do. And we talked about the Traders. And I would love to see you play the Traders game.

So I'm really excited to see her play this game. I kind of want to see her as a traitor. Oh, yeah. I want to see her as a traitor too. I think that would be good. Whitney Levitt. Oh, Jesus Christ. She's on everything.

Isn't she on Broadway? Isn't she tired? She's on nine million things. Oh, so that was the last one, Whitney. I'm excited. Wow. That's going to be a good one. Okay, so I know you said it's too soon, but just tell me,

just make a fantasy final three for this traders, not the celebrity one, but the one that's on right now. Yeah. I'm going to say Bianca Del Rio. Just on my cancel. Taylor Hale and Cynthia Bail. That's my final three. That's my final three.

Taylor Hale. Okay, so who do you think for the regular? Oh, for the regular? Well, I'll get above. I'm writing them down. I love to do this and then flip through my notebook later. Okay. So Taylor Hale, Cynthia Bailey, and Bianca Del Rio.

And it will be two traders. It'll be Taylor Hale and it'll be Bianca Del Ria as the traders. and Cynthia, I'm sorry, Cynthia. They're like, oh my God, we made it to the end. We're both traitors. I'm sorry, Cynthia. We had a contract. Okay, who do you pick for your regulars?

Oh, my gosh. I don't remember their names. Okay, I'll say the evil southern lady. I'm rooting for the traders. The one that I'm rooting for to get kicked off is the guy is like, oh my God, this is quick. Crazy. The one person that I want,

spoiler alert for anyone watching. The one that I wanted to see more of was she's a lawyer, but she said that she was a basketball player and she was the first one murdered. Oh, Kim. Yes, Kim. I want to see, I want to see more of her because I feel like she would have been good reality television. I really feel like her commentary would be.

Well, it was the dumbest lie I've ever heard, first of all. Yeah. He's like, well, I'm a lawyer, but I don't want people to know I'm a lawyer. So I'm going to get them to trust me by lying to them and telling them that I'm a basketball coach. He got rid of them. And they got rid of her. They were like, who trusts a basketball coach in a three-piece suit? And they got rid of her right away.

I already told you the black ones always side first on these games. Just proving my point. That's true, though. I was thinking that to you. I was like, no, don't go in that shed. Don't go in that shed. Like he's even a horror movie. I don't, yeah, I don't even remember anybody from the regular one right now.

I know. I'm just going to say, I want the guy at the end of the season just to see how this game is going. Yeah, we do. We are going to need to talk about that. Okay, what else is going on in this Bravo world here? Okay, so we talked about really nothing. Did you, I'm really bad at leading sometimes. I'm like, hey, let's just talk about traders for nine hours.

Okay, girls' trip. What are your thoughts on girls' trip? Ooh, I enjoyed this week's episode. The Atlanta episodes I thought I was going to enjoy more. I love seeing Nini in the first, you know, her very, well, it was technically her second episode. I enjoyed seeing that and catching up with Nini. She didn't seem herself, though, and I get it, she's probably what's nervous coming back into this after seeing the network. I get it.

So for me, that was a highlight. But being in Miami, you know, Everyone keeps saying they want Miami to come back and seeing Miami and seeing the episode of Miami. It just felt good. It felt it felt fun. So I'm enjoying these middle episodes and towards the end now that they're in New York. I always love her housewives of New York as well. But it's not an ultimate girl's trip that I would go back and rewatch.

And I just did a rewatch of ultimate girls trip during the winter just because I want to, you know, they're usually in the Caribbean somewhere. Some son. Yeah. Which one did you rewatch? Watch. Say again. Which one? All of them.

Do you watch all of them? Yes. It's not that many. Oh my gosh. I think it feels like it's sometimes watching it, maybe because it used to be supersized. So they used to be like an hour and a half. And it would just be like Lou Anne drunk at a pool, fighting, you know, trying to find something to fight with her into about. I always think they're funny.

I think that this girl's trip is really proving that the most entertaining are the people who don't give a fuck what anybody. thinks and are just themselves. Like, even Vicky is somewhat entertaining because she's just so annoying and terrible, you know, be like, nobody likes me. She's just so gross. But it's somehow, I guess, because people are calling her out, or like Luann being such an arrogant narcissist, Lisa Barlow being such an arrogant narcissist. Portia is one of the most entertaining, I think.

And she's just, she's just so light all the time. She's just so like, fun. She makes everything so fun. Yeah. Sexy. I don't know. I'm loving this. I'm loving this season.

I'm even enjoying Kyle Richards and I usually do not like her. She's, she's my least favorite of all of them. Kyle has been winning me over lately. And I think it might have been seeing her get down at Bozema St. John's Ghanaian wedding. Just seeing her have some rhythm and twerking. I was like, I might be turning a corner with you.

you, Kyle. Really? So she, she did well at that? She did. I was like, wow. She was, she was getting down. I couldn't see past Doreet. That's all I can remember from the whole thing. And I watched a lot of clips, but the Doreet dancing in the street or all the, you know, people in the town are like surrounding them and supporting them. And just Doreet was so embarrassing that I think I, I think I blacked out. Not too blocked out. So I don't remember anything else. The only other thing I remember is the cake being lowered from the ceiling in the wedding. And it was like this humongous cake.

And it's coming down. It's so glamorous. And then it just stops. And it's like, and I was just so worried for the cake. It drops. Well, here's the thing. I'm actually looking forward to Bozumah's wedding. I'm not looking forward to Bozumah's marriage.

Yeah. I don't know. I feel like we all tried to tell her. We did. But it is what it is. She's going to give us a fun African wedding, and I am here for the glitz and the glam. Yeah, I've just, it's going to be a few years of Keeley, just, I feel like sitting at home, living off of her. And I don't like it.

And everyone was asking me, who do you think paid for the wedding? I was like, why are you asking any stupid questions, people? Who paid for that? Why are you asking me stupid questions? Stop asking me stupid questions. Who do you think? Clearly. Yeah.

Clearly we know who paid for that wedding, okay? Paid for everything. Yeah, this is going to be. She's a former CMO, so she got some of that sponsored. Oh, yeah. Well, she's also really good at all of that. Oh, my gosh. She probably got most of that paid for, at least that cake.

I'm sure she also got his hairline sponsor. Commercials. Here comes one right now. Ben saw him in a grocery store and said he was really cute. He is very cute. I think he's a cute, man. I don't think he's not cute. Look at Craig.

Yeah, I don't think he's not cute. I just think, I just worry. You know, because when you really like somebody and they're dating a shithead and you're just like, please, you're trying to be supportive. Well, I mean, I'm a podcaster, so I wasn't trying to be supportive. I was like, fuck Healy. Don't do it. I don't know. It's like Vanderpump rules when they came out with that big billboard.

the bar that said, Britney, don't do it. And she started crying and she's like, well, they're saying, Britney, don't do it. Listen, read the signs. Look, at this particular point, I think Bozema just wants what she wants. And there's nothing that anyone that could have done, you know, could have said or done to change her mind about it. And I'm okay with that. Girl, you like it. I look, we get an African wedding next season. Well, yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's like an Indian wedding. The extravaganza of it all. I'm here for. Oh my gosh. Like a nice 10-day Indian wedding.

Not 10 days. Watching. Yeah. I'm tapping out after day, too. Family karma. They're like, oh, yes, a traditional Indian wedding. It's like seven days. It's like it's a long time.

Like, they go. Family karma gave us in their season three, two Indian weddings. Yeah. Two. We owe them so much. That was a good one. That was a good show. I miss that show.

So, still on Beverly Hills, did you hear the latest Doreet stuff that P.K. is beating her in court. Doree, why aren't you getting a good lawyer, you dummy? That's another one that you've been rooting against that man. Are you surprised? I am a little surprised that someone didn't hook her up with a good lawyer. Like, Sutton didn't hook her up in a way that she could at least fight Pek. I mean, P.K.

just bought the debt of their house. is going to be able to kick her ass out of there. And he created the dead of the house. He created it. Yeah. And now he's bamboozled the whole situation. I was like, damn, Pekey might be really,

really freaking smart. And she's not. But people did try to help and warn Doret, too, including Erica. They did try and warn her. And she just kind of ignored it. I think she thought she was better or she knew more. Well, no one wants to hear it.

And they're the ones being warned. staged a, what you call it, a burglary, allegedly. Allegedly. Oh, yeah. Allegedly. Well, Garsel thanks you for the backup on that one. Everyone acted like, what?

I can't believe you would say that. It's like the whole internet said it. You know what I mean? So the fact that he's been able to navigate his life like this, I don't know why she's surprised because she probably knows P.K. better than any of us. But that move that he made this week in regards to buying the debt of the house, I was like, damn, I didn't even think about that.

And where did he get the money from? I wouldn't even think about it. I didn't even know you could do that. I had to read up on it. I was like, what? I just didn't think he had the money to do it. I don't know where he gets his money. I mean, what does he have?

He's got Boy George, who he manages, and Boy George is in trouble for writing AI songs about Israel or some shit. Like, what? And like, didn't you hear about that? He got recalceded. And I think because P.K. owns like some AI company, and I guess it's writing music for Boy George now. I don't know. That whole thing. So I thought, what is P.K? I mean, I guess he's got enough smarts to beat Doreet in this thing. But I mean, it didn't take a lot. No, it didn't take a lot. It's a Doree. But I just feel like so many people are warned. Everybody was kind of warning Erica about Tom. She was like, I don't care. I'm rich as hell. I'm rich as hell. I'm rich as hell. Everyone was. Everyone was. warning Kyle about Maricio. I mean, Lisa Vanderpump is still probably

stoned in the street every time she walks down the wrong street because she was like, oh, so this is the young woman that Maricio was seen. I mean, that's been going on for years. And then Kyle's like, what? So, I don't know, I guess you just never hear of it at all, even though I'm changing my

opinion, not how I'm changing my opinion, I'm turning a corner with Kyle because she can twerk. Even, I feel like it's convenient timing. That's why she hasn't divorced him. I know everyone's speculating it's because of the millions of dollars that they share and she would get half of it. I'm sure that plays a part. But I feel like she's like, you've been doing what you've been doing, you know, behind my back for years. So now I can use it as a storyline to extend my time on the show. And you can gallivant and do to do what you do freely,

cheat free. And so can I. Yeah. And so can I while we still have the same killer bank account. Oh my gosh. because both of them make a ton of money anyway. I mean, beyond that business, she makes a ton of money herself. So, I don't know, I guess it's kind of like learning to be a gay man, you know? She's like embraced the gay man,

the gay man lifestyle, just kind of an open relationship. You know, like, let's, we're still together for all intents and purpose, but we can still do our own thing and still get along and have Christmas together, I guess. That would not work for me. Just at Netflix.

My actual, the future man in my life, that's not going to work for me. Oh, you're not like an open relationship. No, I'll kill you. I'm like a no relationship gay, but I mean, whenever I've been in them, I would really have a problem as somebody cheated on me. But I don't know. I would be okay if it was just open for me. I guess I'm selfish like that. Oh, my gosh.

Not saying I do, right. Yeah. It's open for me, but not for you. Yes, because I feel like I would be able to judge the situation I'm in and be like, okay, I know that I was safe. I know that I was, you know, this person's not going to stalk us in the future, but I don't know, I don't have any, I don't know how careful you're going to be. Why should, why not how careful I am? Yeah, I was wrapped in Saran Wrap. Okay, what were you doing?

Some rando from the gym, sir. Oh, my God, I can't. And that's why I'm single forever. I told you I cordoned myself off. Okay. Let's, you know what? Let's talk to the listeners for a little bit. You guys, if you're listening on audio, this is the end of the audio portion. But thank you so much for being here. Thank you for being here, Kempire. I love you. Go see Kempire after dark live in New York City. Friday, September 25th at the Green Room 42.

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Bye. Okay. Let me just post this share link. Okay, so what else are you watching right now on the Braves? Oh my gosh, I'm watching so much. There's Salt Lake City is back. Potomac's about to come back.

Oh, I might have so... At this next live show... Let's talk about Potomero. Oh, my God. I have so much tea about Potomac that I'm not sharing here. I'm sharing it behind a paywall at my live show. I'm probably. I'll tell you later, Ronnie. Okay, yeah, I want to know. I think it's looking really good. I'm so glad they brought Tia back. I love Tia. Oh, do you? What do you love about Tia? It's not that I don't love Tia, but I've heard no one ever say that. I love her snottiness and I love her kind of the lisp and her accent. And I like how she's like, oh, my husband's my, the nanny, the maid. And then, of course, the second season, she's like, are you cheating on me? I can't believe it. I can't believe it.

I wonder if that's a new cheetaheation situation or is it old. Oh. Because you know how they get us with the trailers and the editing. Is it old cheating or is it new cheating? And if it's new cheating, how dare he? I feel like it's new, but you know what? I fall for every preview. I really do.

I fall for everything that they tell me. I like her. I didn't like that she was kind of siding with whoever Giselle told her. I didn't love that. Yeah. But I just find her funny. I don't know. I love Stacy.

I think she was a decent addition. Yeah, I think she's pretty good. I like Stacy as well. Let's see, who else? Monique didn't do a ton in her first season. back? No. Do you think she will this time?

Or do you think it's going to be another? There's a lot of stuff going on with Monique. I don't know if it's going to play out during the season, but there's a lot of personal stuff. But she's just a friend of us. They don't deep, you know, they don't dig deep into her own personal story. They kind of alluded to it last season when it comes to her, her divorce from Chris.

Chris. There's a lot of stuff going on when it comes to their custody situation. and people out here trying to ruin her name in these DMV streets. What is he doing? He's the worst. Oh, my God. That fucking guy. Yeah.

What has he been saying about her to ruin her reputation? I can't say it here. Oh, really? Okay. The reason why I don't want to say it, it's not that I won't say it at the next live show. But it's just so bad because I feel like the intention, They want us with our platforms to talk about it. And I don't want to do that to Monique.

Right. I feel like she really is trying to ruin her life. And I don't want to do it. Yeah, it's like playing into his plan. He wants us to talk about it. Watch what crappins would like to thank its premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Allison King. Our way is the Amber Way.

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