Watch What Crappens - #3554 Next Gen NYC S2E014 Part Two: Secret Tingles with Kara Berry

Episode Date: September 24, 2026

This is part 2 of 2!Kara Berry @karabgrams from the @everyonesbusinessbutmine Podcast joins @ronniekaram to talk about the final Next Gen NYC reunion. Ariana gets upset for disappointing Jesus by liking Charlie and the cast explains to Andy what dating means. Find Kara’s podcast Everyone’s Business But Mine wherever you get yours, and be sure to follow her on the gram. We’re back on tour Oct 3! Get our In the Mix tickets for your city at watchwhatcrappens.com. To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, sign up for our free weekly newsletter and get ad free listening, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Well, hello and welcome to watch what happens. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show.

Now we talk about Ava and Shai and what happened with them. And this is where he says they hooked up in the Bahamas. But he doesn't make an effort. And then he tells a story, which is illustrated with crayon drawings, because that's the kind of their classic thing. Love. And he wanted to take her somewhere really cool, but it was this club that he probably couldn't get into.

So he went to the club really early to try and get them a spot. And so she had to take an Uber. And then she was like, why didn't you just come get me? And he's like, you don't understand. I was trying to get a spot at this club. And they were like, well, did you get into the club? And he's like, yeah. It turns out I just have to be with a gorgeous influencer.

It's all I really need it. This poor guy. I lost my question. But I like them. I do think that there's like an end game with them with Shy and Ava. Yeah, I was surprised because I thought the vibe she was giving was like, oh, he likes me clearly, but whatever, it's shy. And then it turns out she did like him. Yeah.

I think she's waiting for her. him to like continue to make a consistent effort and he's like oh i don't know why he's not picking up on that yeah because it's right i guess he's just never had a girlfriend before you know and um what was i going to say the cast really doesn't seem to like shy why do you think the cast doesn't like him so okay i think like if you want to like imagine in your mind a world on vanderpump rules in which katie and shorts were never together i I feel like Katie is Gia. Like I'm working.

I'm trying to do this thing and I'm a professional. And then here's this like guy who just like, hey, what's, I don't know what's going on. And I don't know what's happening, but I'm here. And he keeps like failing upwards. Even though I really like shy, I can see why from Gia's mind, she's like, you were a plus one of a plus one. Why are you on season two? I'm here to work. And you're here to like flop around.

I think she finds that really. really aggravating, but it's not justified. Yeah, I think that's a good point. I think that they, I think the Bravo Nepo babies look at him like, this is, like, we earned it because we've been on TV before, but who are you? Yeah. It's, it's like, shy walked on a set accidentally, and they're like, you know what? Put a mic pack on him. And James like, oh, it would work in years for this.

Yeah. Yeah. I was on TV since I was like, child. So now we move on to Hudson. Hudson's going to be coming out soon. And they're like, oh, my God, Hudson's coming. Hudson's coming. It's so funny how everyone acts like Hudson's a big deal. Hudson is just some little rich kid. Like, what is everybody afraid of Hudson about? It's hilarious.

And they keep cutting to Hudson. It's like he's waiting backstage at boxing. You ready? He's like, yeah. Somebody's squirting water into his mouth. Yes. Andy Cohen, guess who's joining us on stage? Hudson?

Hello, Hudson. All right. The most important question out of the way, have you made it back into the group chat? He's like, yeah. And the person who led him back into the group chat was Ariana in the first place. Good for him. Kind of, but don't have me take somebody off of group chat because of you and then have then put somebody else back on the group chat.

True. Yeah, don't have Riley do your bidding next time. He's got to go. Do it yourself. Although Riley did love it. She's like, I loved every second of it. She did. She really did.

So now we see Ariana and Hudson Stories and, um, uh, baldy from more more. wants to know why you went back to Atlanta after you and Ariana broke up. You didn't even make it ever to keep Ariana. And he's like, well, I started a business. Like I was starting a car company. Okay. It was like a Lampo company. But then, you know, we hit a couple bumps in the road. And someone's like, no pun intended. Because my Lampo blew up. And Andy, who clearly doesn't even watch his show, was like, what? Yeah, the Lampo blew up. And, you know, then I, Is this where he said he went to rehab too or something? He went back to rehab? No. No. This is, it goes they ask Liam about when he started being interested in Oriana. Oh, he's like, immediately.

Immediately. That's what you do. I showed up to set. I saw my leading lady and I said, abam. Hey, ma'am, would you like to do the same dance I'm doing but backwards? Fred Astaire. This is a Fred Astaire reference. You get it.

You get it. if you're an actor. So Ariana's saying she basically wasn't ready because it was so quick. And Liam seemed like such an honest person. And he made her a closet. And so why not date him? But what happened off camera that made you so confident of how you were feeling about her, Liam?

And he's like, well, we talked about a lot of things I don't think people talk about in the first week. You know, namely having my children, house building a home for us in the woods that we would live in, that she would never leave. I would just leave and bring back wood to chop. You know, stuff like that, Andy. It was pretty deep. Her dog walking schedule.

Yeah. Riley said that she warned Ariana. You just got out of relationship, et cetera. And Andy asked Charlie, do you think Hudson not coming to BravoCon was an opening for you? And he's like, I don't know if it was Brabacconne specifically, but. But I mean, like it's overall demeanor. I mean, look at him. Like, he doesn't do anything.

It's like, if a girl breaks up with you, you should like make an effort. He made no effort. So, you know, it's like, I'm going to show. It's like if one door dash delivery person's cancels, ding, another delivery dash driver gets the notification. They show up. They pick up the pizza. That's just kind of how it works. Look at the guy.

Fucking loser. Can't even get a decent haircut. This is what I mean. Like, he thinks everything is on his. terms like he's created these arbitrary rules that Hudson has to abide by to get his girlfriend back and if you're not going to do it I'm going to fuck her I had no choice yeah I tried to help you out bro but you want to play by my rules yeah exactly it's like you but I was in the office and when I opened the fridge there was a sandwich in the fridge and if you wanted the sandwich why'd you put it in

the fridge why didn't know what you do with sandwiches you know she's that guy yeah He's so wild. And he says it like, this is normal. This is not what people do. You don't, I'm never going to like look at somebody who I'm friends with who broke up with their partner and be like, okay, well, time's a tick and if you're off back, then my hand is forced and so is my vagina. Yeah. And Charlie's like, hey, well, I understand. I just, I mean, I was constantly telling you like, bro, like, you're going to lose.

your girl you got to come back and he's like no you were telling me to get a party bus and pull up with a bunch of bitches to a scene like i didn't need to do that to make her jealous that's what i would have done that is such charlie advice too and he's like yeah uh attorneys listen to that this is charlie admitting to rounding women up like he did at that torture house going to bray Nileville and finding women to go back to the townhouse. That's what he was doing. Yeah, that's what people were saying, right? That he was going to the store and, like, finding young women and being like,

I'm on reality TV. Want to come over? Yeah. You're like, who's this 28-year-old unc? Leave us alone, sir. Yeah. Ugh. So gross.

He's weird. Seriously. And Andy's like, well, I shouldn't say bitches on TV. I've learned that's disrespectful. So you think. if she saw him with a party bus full of skanks and they're like whoa whoa wandy we don't say skinks he's like oh okay so i didn't say that i said bitches we're using the respectable term here andy bitches god boomer okay so jeez like yeah but that's snanky charlie

and he's like well he didn't take my advice what am i supposed to do okay what am i supposed to you lost a girl. Like, what am I supposed to just not make out with somebody? I don't know why he's acting like it is ridiculous for anybody to think that he's been trying to hook up with Ariana this whole time when that's literally what he said season one. Why do you guys think that? Yeah, exactly. And Ariana is like, it just shows your morals and your character. And he's like, I just wanted him to do something.

Okay, my God, I'm sorry. You're not feeling good. Get a bus full of bitches. Like, What would your advice have been? And I say this as the host of everyone's business but mine. Leave them alone. I'm sorry.

It's like the best advice I could come up with. You guys probably giving better advice. What would you guys do? So, so Liam is like, dude, you just wanted him to do that for your own entertainment because then he would get a bus full of girls. Then, you know,

then he'd make himself look stupid and you'd think that was funny. And he's like, yeah. Of course. And Charlie's like, well, you should do something. I mean, you should do something. Like, what'd you do? Nothing. You went, you went, you blew up Lambo's in another town.

Fucking weirdo. The loser. Of course people took your girlfriend. He's like, I was also in rehab. I also went back into drug addiction. And Charlie was like, oh, wow. Oh, okay, sorry. I can't handle your drugs either.

Wow. That's valid. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, he's like, well, I get, you were in rehab, but I was calling you being like, bro. you're about to lose your girl to me. So do something. I'm not going to tell you it's me, but you're all, you are.

So you're in rehab, what? So that stops you from leaving a building to come get your, come get your woman? I mean, come on. It literally, it literally does. Whatever, loser. So, um, Andy's asked. I wouldn't have had sex with his girlfriend. I, why, what's not clicking with you people?

Yeah. Um, but of course, Charlie. also said to straight to the camera like i don't really like hudson just leading him on because i'm gonna steal his fucking girlfriend or whatever he was saying on camera so hudson's mad and then charles like what are you mad about god he's diabolical truly and he asked ariana um how deep the connection with hudson is you know was he there for her was she there for him when he was in rehab and she's like yeah because like we're a family and like i'm always there to help him and take

of him. And Andy's like, well, must have been like spinning plates. I mean, you had him, Charlie, Liam. I mean, that was a lot going on, Ariana. She was like, but wait, wait. You said dating and I was not dating Liam. I just want to clarify that. And he's like, okay, hanging out. She's like, I was not his girlfriend because I am not a cheater. And he's like, okay, sorry. You were a skank that was hanging out with a non-bitch. Okay. Did I get that for my kids. I don't get these rules of dating at all. I feel like we're all just saying words. Dating now means that your boyfriend and girlfriend.

But I've got that's not what it was. I'm so lost. Everybody changes shit. Everybody has a different answer. It's not the moment. That's their right. You know, yeah, like every generation comes out with like a new thing, right? But dating used to be much more intense.

It was like, oh, okay. we're seeing each other, then you're dating, then your boyfriend and girlfriend, then you're divorced, then you get married, then you get, I don't know, there used to be like a certain order. It wasn't that. The talking stage, I think, is what threw a wrench into everything. Now we're all akimbo. All the rules are thrown out the window because we're talking and nobody knows what talking means. Yeah.

I don't know what it means. in this regard because if we went by their language i'd be fucking everybody like that's all i do is talk so i don't know how it works and and he's so confused he's like oh babe though hanging out so what were you doing with liam at the time you weren't dating but what you were what you were what and charles like hooking up that's the right face yeah banging and she's like uh yeah i wouldn't classify that as hooking up and leiam said getting to know each other. Okay, yeah, like things were intense so quickly and it was like communication was there.

And okay, well, why is that not dating? Can someone explain to me? Isn't dating what happens before your boyfriend and girlfriend? She's like, no, dating is when you are boyfriend and girlfriend. And Liam goes, welcome to New York, Andy. Excuse me, Andy has been living here longer than you've been alive, sir. Literally. Welcome to New York.

So wild. So I still don't understand what they're saying. I think that if Ariana is with a guy that came over and built a closet and then he's like, I feel really serious with you. I haven't felt this for a long time. And then she says, yeah, I haven't felt like this about anybody. And I will come meet your family. And you're my dream that has been manifested. I manifested you.

And then you see pretty much only each other. I think you're dating. And you're saying I only kiss one man at a time. You're the only person I'm kissing, even though that wasn't true. Like, what else is he supposed to think? Yeah, I was confused by this whole thing. I mean, where I come from, if a man shows up and builds my closet, I'm locking the door. And I'm keeping him in here.

And then he's going to be like, but I work for Angie and I'm paid by the hour. And we're not dating. And I'd be like, we are. We're talking to each other. We're dating. We're married and we're in a relationship. You're my boyfriend before those little packets of screws even come out of the box. Yes. Keep that L wrench in your hand. Yep. And call me Daddy. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappence commercial.

So now it kind of turns into what was Ariana thinking. Like what was she was going through her mind? Because she said she was just kissing one man and she won't be kissing. another. And Ariana's like, well, I was not kissing Charlie by any means at that time. Oh, okay. So Liam, you admitted around that time that Charlie was growing on you. And he's like, well, yeah, but he was tricking me by pretending to be a decent person. So what do you want for me? Right. Well, and Liam's like, yeah, Charlie, you know, like Charlie, it's like I told you then. Like, you're funny, you're smart. And you get off the impression that you're a good person. So I fell for it.

What can I say? Who would you go for between Hudson, Charlie and Liam? Hudson, Charlie, and Liam. Like if you, it's just like one nice date. I think Liam's the cutest. Yeah. Charlie is probably the most entertaining. I could talk the most shit with.

And I mean, Hudson's just rich as hell. So. He was very polite. I don't know. It depends. Yeah, and he seems nice, is kind of a douche. Yeah. All of these men are too short for me personally, but I'm happy for them.

I like a short king. Like, I'm not one of those with like a tall preference. I'm more of like a job. Like, how tall is your job? Right. If we put hours in a day on a scale of height, like how high would your scale go? Like, do you work a lot of hours? because that would be great.

Exactly. I'm looking for someone 10 hours and above. Right. Right. Who do you think? How would you rate them? Like if I'm going back to like being Ariana's age, 24, I think it would be Liam. I think I would have issues with Charlie immediately and I would not find him entertaining.

I think he'd probably do a racism to me. So that would count him out. So Liam, yes. Yeah, you were thinking of other things. That's a big enough one for sure. Yeah. I think, you know, he's, I think he's the type of person who's mean to his partner to get attention. You know, like he's mean and they cry and they're like, yeah, well, they must like me because they're crying.

Right. And I can't walk a guy through his early 20s leather pants phase. Like that's something that you, that's a journey you go on your own. That's a single man behavior. Yeah, I agree. That's rough. And then also just like sweaty butt. And it's like, but you were wearing leather pants.

Right. You know, I just don't want to deal with that. I don't want to have to teach you. Yeah. But Liam would never shut up. Oh, my God. And I would never feel like Liam really loved me because he's just in love with the idea of being in love. He seems like.

Yeah. I am wary of men who wear rings like that. like chunky rings like Luke from Summerhouse. Luke is very similar to Liam. They've got a lot in common with the whole one. Oh, look at me. I chop wood. I chop wood and I make jewelry and he's trying to say like, I do this and I do that and I do this and I do that. It's like, but what are you, what are you good at? You know? Right. Right. Liam is going to make jewelry one day. I see it. He'll make jewelry. Yeah. I think it's like, hot guy thing where they feel guilty just being hot.

And so they have to come up with all these other things that makes them more, you know, worthy. Yeah. And you don't really need more than that. Like you were given the gift of being hot. Just run with it. I see. Put the blow torch down.

And live your life. Yeah. No one needs your badly chopped wood. Okay. We can buy it at the grocery store. So Liam is pretty good, I think, about this. He's like, look, you know, it didn't work out with Arianna, still like her, whatever, I wish it best for her. She has the right to do whatever she wants.

And Andy's trying to make it like, well, but she did make you think that you were dating or married or pregnant. And he's like, well, whatever. She could, good for her. Yeah. Yeah. So he's not giving much. I do feel like this is the most tactical part of Liam is the like trying to be like, yeah, I'm totally fine. She's on her journey.

She's a young woman. go explore your life, go explore Manhattan. I'm like, no, you want to be with her. Not the truth. Yeah. Yeah. And so now the questioning is like, well, did him saying, I love you too fast, make you run to Charlie? And she's like, I don't want to say it made me run to Charlie.

I mean, we don't call it running right now, Andy, it's 2026. Okay. Did it make you walk to Charlie? She's like, well, I was just like freaked out because I have emotions. And it was moving quick. And I was like, oh, my God, I don't deserve this. It's not right. And like, I just, ah.

And so she starts crying, which is fine. Like, I get it. But I wanted her from the end of the episode of the last one where she's like, he manipulated me with Jesus. And I'm going to let him have it. And then she shows up here and doesn't say anything for two hours. And then when she does say something, she's like, oh, I'm like, oh, I're, it's okay. Yeah, I feel like the trailer for the reunion was a bit of a fake out.

Because when she was crying and being like, it's just gross. Rose. I thought she was talking about Charlie, not to herself. That was just depressing. It is depressing. And knowing everything, well, knowing some things that are going on in her life. Yeah. You know, and I don't know how much of that was going on at this time or how much she was privy to or how much trouble she knew that, you know, her family was in. Yeah. I mean, I think not going home for the holidays was probably a big sign that we didn't know until we know what we knew. Yeah. And you've got her. her trash mother who's over there trying to get money off of her all the time. And then you've got that divorce going on, which was horrible, you know, all this,

the police being called all the time and all that stuff. So I think she has had a rough go at it. So I get it. Yeah. I just was, I feel like I was promised something at the end of the episode and I didn't really get that. So I was ultimately mad. I was like, God damn it. Yeah.

No, I agree. I would have. sadness. A little bit more back and forth, a little bit more aggression out of Ariana. Yeah. But she cries and everyone's like, I'm really sorry and Charlie apologizes. And now it's between Hudson and Charlie. And Charlie, you said you wouldn't sacrifice the friendship to do anything with Ariana.

Was that a lie? And he's like, no, like, I guess in the hindsight, maybe I shouldn't have said that. But like, I didn't foresee a world in which Ariana and I connected the way that we ended up connecting. So, you know, I don't feel like I would Hudson anything. And like, you know, like his motives for being my friend at the time have since come out as a little bit less than genuine than I thought because Hudson was also saying like, I'm not really friends with Charlie, but I'm going to trick Charlie by being his friend so that when he hits on Ariana, he'll be caught in a trap, which never really made any sense. I, I feel like once again, Charlie's like slithering out of

something to now be the victim when again he has been trying to plot and steam this entire time to hook up with Ariana. He knows what he was doing. And I just, to be like, and actually I've been betrayed in all of this is so laughable. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's right that he didn't really have to not go after somebody's girlfriend that was their ex. I think he had the right to do it, but he's still in an asshole for doing it. I guess some frustrating thing to me was Ariana. Yeah. Yeah.

If Ariana had told Charlie season one, let's go in the bathroom right now, Hudson's like taking a shot and he's like working on his pants, he'd be like, let's do it. And he would have done the heartbeat. So I don't know why he's acting like this is not a fact. He absolutely would have done that. And yeah, he's a clown.

Yeah. So Hudson's like, well, you said you wanted to fuck her and you were pretending to be my friend. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't even want any of that until BravoCon. So you can't even get mad at me because I was filmed at a different time. And he's like, oh, okay. So then Charlie pulled Hudson aside to say that there would be a narrative about him and Ariana flirting.

And you didn't take it seriously, Hudson. He's like, no, I mean, I thought it was complete bullshit. I mean, my family owns a fried chicken conglomerate. So. Obviously, she was going to stay loyal to me. Have you seen her Chick-fil-A rewards? They're out of control. She has a golden ticket card to get free-fried chicken, wherever she wants.

So Hudson's kind of mad, but Charlie keeps out talking everybody. Like, basically, Charlie kind of looks right, even though we know he's not right. But he's like, what? And Hudson's just left their kind of blink blinking. Yeah. So then it's the Liam thing because Charlie kissed Liam. And so Ariana had to call Liam and say, this happened. You're going to find out.

And he's like, yeah, you know, fuck me up. Hudson told Liam. I got it wrong. Hudson told Liam. Yeah. Yes. And Liam's like, why are you calling me, bro? Yes. Thank you. And he's like, yeah, I thought that was a little awkward to get that call from Hudson.

Hudson. It was like, whoa, yeah, yeah. I'm really sorry I did that. That was, that was insane on my, on my end. I just wanted to be. But I get it. Like, he was trying to seek community and be like, we, we get it, right? And Liam's like, no, we are not a we. It is my number. Yeah. So Arianna's like, well, you know, the conversation started what I date, what I never. date you and you were kind of making jokes, like laughing about it, and then we ended up kissing. And Charlie's like, I mean, like, look, here's the story. We made that out of my place. That's it. And he walked the dogs. That's it. That's the story. Okay. Back off. Do we think it's just making out? I don't know, because I think there must have been coke over there or something that everybody wants to go to Charlie's at two in the morning.

I've never heard anybody at two in the morning. And I've been a partier, you know, for a very long time. And no one at two in the morning has been like, you know what? We need to go to the person's house with marijuana. It's certainly not in New York where there's a dispenser in every corner. Yeah. And it's two in the morning. Like, who needs that? You know, I think that's usually a koki thing.

Or you want to hook up. Like, I'm not going over to a guy's house at 2 o'clock in the morning unless we're doing something. Yeah. But they use those terms on this show, like kissing. like they'll only let themselves go to certain places. And he even knows what they mean by kissing or making out. Maybe that means something totally different now that we don't know. What parts are we kissing?

I don't know. Yeah, we don't know. So Ariana's like, hand on the Bible. And I'm suddenly an extremely religious person in the past few episodes. A good Christian woman. Yeah, this stuff kind of makes me crazy when she starts her whole like, uh, This is not how a woman of God would act with her pink Bible.

Come on. I think it's so funny. It's so funny, but it's so silly. Bless her. She's fine in her way. Bless her heart. Bless her heart. She's like, I was an example of somebody who's a woman of God.

And, you know, it's an example of someone who's gross. I'm like, you're not gross. You're not gross, Ariana. You're great. You're like, stop beating yourself up. You want to. a woman of God. And she's like, I don't need anybody to judge me because I do it all by myself.

Ariana, don't do that. Don't beat yourself up. I would appreciate seeing more of like Ariana and Riley's relationship because Riley keeps having to be like, I've talked to Ariana about this. I talked to Ariana about that. I feel like the way the show played out, you would almost think that like Riley had no idea about this whole Charlie thing, but it seems like she did basically the whole time. Yeah. Yeah, Riley's pretty quiet in this one. I think Riley's a little gun shy because she

got in so much trouble on the internet. Like the internet went really crazy on her for having one bad episode. I mean, my God. And I think she came back like, what? I'm sorry. Yeah, I agree. Jeez. Yeah, I agree. commercials here comes one right now so it's a lot of you know ariana's crying and stuff and like you've grown so much ariana look at look at how far you've come like before you were a girl named ariana and now you're a girl with her named ariana with a pink bible like you're huge now she's like thanks guys and eva's telling charlie come on charlie say something nice he's like but like i'm the reason she's upset like What do I even say?

That's stupid. What am I supposed to say? Okay, Ariana, I just want to say, I would suggest you get a van full of bitches. I mean, I guess we had like a real connection or whatever. So sorry. My bad. Yeah. And she's like, well, obviously the show ends with me telling you, I'm going to eat you up and spit you out and chew you out.

But, you know, like, obviously you texted me since then. Like a part of it did feel that it was also part of a big game that you'd been playing for so long. And Andy's like, you felt played. Yeah, that's what I meant. And I said it was like a game. It's like, oh, okay. So that's still English. I was like, yeah, like that genuinely like hurts me to know that you would feel like it was some sort of a game.

Because like what I was doing was I was like playing a game, you know? I've been strategically planning for over a year to hook up with you. But I'm so sorry that you caught on to that. So how did it end? And Charlie's like, well, I don't want to like say anything because it's like private. But like, you know, I don't want to expose any more details than Ariana's comfortable with. So like I respect her privacy totally 100% I'm a gentleman and I'm not going to. So what happened, Ariana?

She's like, uh, well, we went to the Bahamas. It was like a petty argument and some things were said that were not kind. And, um, Charlie's like, yeah. And emotions were had. and I would never, ever say what she said to me, because it's just not, it's not right. It's not my place to say it. All right, we're going to go on break.

She said that I made her pussy tingle. Charlie. This is the other thing that irks my soul. Like, he always is like, there's a big bomb out there, and I don't want to be the bad person by making her look bad. But there's something else,

but I don't want to say it, but maybe you should. This is, like, really explosive information that's going to make Ariana look awful. But I don't want to say it because I'm a good guy. But I am going to say that something happened and make it sound really explosive and vague so that she sounds like a bad person, even though I don't want to make her seem like a bad guy because I'm a good one. Yeah. Okay.

Time for a bathroom break. Yeah. She said that I made her pussy tingle guys. Like, oh, geez, Charlie. Ava having to be like, you know, you're still mic up. Oh, yeah. That's, wow. I totally forgot that if I just.

Didn't whisper that they would keep listening to me. Oh. Oh, right, right. Yeah. Whoops. So they go through Ariana's timeline. She was, she hooked up with, uh, Charlie in the Bahamas. And then something happened.

We don't know what. And then she was with Hudson for a minute. And then things flared up with her and Charlie. They're trying to figure out this whole timeline. Meanwhile, um, Liam, we find out Liam wasn't in the Bahamas. and also Georgia wasn't invited to the Bahamas. Yeah. Yeah.

I would love to know more of the timeline, too, because if you said you were done with Charlie, why were y'all hunching in the Bahamas again? She won't answer anything in a real way. Yeah. Which kind of makes me crazy. And I really like her. And I do think she's a sweet girl and stuff.

And I like her on the show. But I can't with this. If you're going to do it, like you're coming onto this show. You're clearly making storylines. Like, oh, I'm just a single girl in the city, which is her right, by the way. Yeah. Date whoever you want.

Date as many as you want. You're single. But she's kind of enjoying the storyline part of it. But then when she's questioned about anything later, she's just going to literally cry and clutch her Bible. And I'm sorry, not accepted as now. Yeah. Yeah. We can't be singing, Lord, I lift your name on high every time we're called to the carpet, babe.

Let's tell the truth. Yeah, you have to answer something. But also, like, to your point, totally fine. Go out there and spray. Read them. Like, mention it all. Do what you ought to do, girl. Nobody cares. We're rooting for you. Yeah. And you don't owe anybody an apology. You were single. If you were dating Liam, kind of, and you wanted to make out with Charlie, that is your right to do that. So I would kind of like to see her grab that power instead of being like, I'm a sinner. That shit makes me crazy. So she finally does find something to say to Charlie. And she's like, I didn't appreciate the way you spoke about me in the season when you said. said how many times you can get away with grabbing my ass. And he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa,

but I said that to you over text, though. So like, I'm like disrespectful behind your back and to your face. And she's like, yeah, but that's different. If you're like writing any text, but saying it behind my back is worse. He's like, oh, okay. Sorry. No, that's totally valid. I get that now. That's valid. Yeah, it's valid. You have feelings. I get it. I'm a gentleman. She's like, yeah, I felt like just an object. And I was like, oh my God, I'm a woman of God. And he's like, valid, valid, valid. It's the Holy Trinity valid.

It's the valid, it's the valid, the son valid, and the holy valid. She's like, well, thank you. That should be his new tattoo, just valid across his stomach. Valid. So he wants a friend hug from her at break. And she's like, no. And this is where he's like, yeah, she said, I made her, the Poussa Tingle.

And even it's like, oh, Jesus. Okay, now we move on to Georgia. And Georgia did a vulture interview. And she said nobody in this cast would get into any party that she threw. And do you consider how that's going to land when the group reads that stuff? And it's like, honestly, I don't. Because, like, what I was, like, trying to say is, like, I'm, like, a party planner. And, like, the things, you know, the places that I throw parties out, like, they have dress codes.

So like it's like different kind of, it's like counterintuitive dressing. Everybody dress is really counterintuitive at my events. So that's really what I meant. Okay. You wear your shoes on your hands. Literally was about to say this. People put panty hose over their head. It's like a whole thing.

I don't get it. That's what I meant. You wear underwear is overware. It's like really confusing. And it's like so much to explain to people. To be fair, I can't imagine. Georgia hosting a party that Gia would want to go to. What she really means is like I wouldn't host anything that anybody would want to go to on this cast.

No, I think she meant like, I'm a badass and I have cool parties and they're nerds. But what she should have said is that no one would want to go anyway, babe. Gia's not standing in line for club club. Yeah. And Andy's like, do you feel like you're part of the group? because the audience loves you, but the group hates you. So how do you feel about that? It's like, yeah, like, I mean, like, I'm just not invited places.

Like, I can't go to the Bahamas if I'm not invited. So, like, I don't know what it's supposed to do about that. And it turns out the Bahamas trip was a Charlie trip. And so, of course, she didn't get to come. And Ava's like, yeah, but I can attest that I was the one who was like, should we call Georgia? And then they were like, no, we hate Georgia. So, like, you know, I tried. What was I supposed to do?

Like, betray all of my friends. I did what I could. I'm sorry that you didn't get the invite. Yeah. And Georgia says, well, before season two, we were really good friends. And you expressed a lot of anxiety because you felt like everyone was against you and we'd been hanging out. And so I remember always telling you, I got your back no matter what, which was true. That's a Georgia thing, too, is that you've got my back no matter what, Georgia and Charlie.

Yeah, she's big on loyalty. But Georgia has every right to be, like, upset about this because they, well, I don't know. Their friendship wasn't really all that authentic. Like, it cleared to me when they filmed that scene that they had made a pact with each other to remain on this show and also go against Charlie. And Ava lost hook, broke up with Captain Hook and went right into Charlie's arms. I don't know. It's like, how upset could Georgia be because they really weren't friends like that? anyway, but she did mess up the pack that they had. That's clear. Yeah, I think it was one of those.

We're on this show together. It's us against the world because you know they'll come for us or whatever. Yeah, I feel like, yeah, but now people like me. So yeah, exactly. It's very like, okay, I'm going to hang out with a loser because I don't think I really have the cachet, but as soon as I can get out of here, I'm leaving you girl. And she did. Yeah. And so Ava's like, Sorry I hurt your feelings, but like accusing me of hanging out with Omar is weird. Charlie invited me to one drink and I showed up and Omar was there. So it's not like I was hanging out with them. I just hung out with them.

She's like, okay. Like, I'm sorry. Charles, like, stop being obsessed with me, maybe. How about that? Stop talking about me, Georgia. Okay, well, we've covered a lot today. I want to take this opportunity to make sure everyone said what they needed to say. Everybody, everybody got their cat, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. And it basically ends with Riley and Georgia. What is the status of your cat skills peace treaty? They still want peace. And Shy and Brooks, are you going to possibly collab and clothing in your future? I mean, shy is super talented, but if he wants to talk to me, he needs to go through my agent. Seth Marks. Seth, Marx.

What do you want to talk about today, Shy? Granny clothes shy, you are the CEO of Granny Panties Limited. You are an icon. And that brings us to the end of NextGen Season 2. Who do you want to see back? Everybody. I think everybody, except for Charlie, I think there need to be additions in the form of like more friends from Riley.

I think maybe just bring Amari, Angela Oakley's daughter. and just have her come film for a month because I think Riley wants to be in this group and I think she wants to continue filming. I think she just doesn't feel like safe emotionally. And I think that causes her to like crash out, especially with Georgia. But I think like, I think a season three would be really good for Riley. I just think she needs a friend. Yeah.

I think that was a good testing ground where they had the scene with Riley. Riley and a couple of friends. I think that was a nice, like, audition scene. So, yeah, hopefully they do that. I would like them all back. I think that if they bring Rowan back, they need to bring Rowan's evil sister on because I thought that brought Rowan's whole story

to life. But other than that, she doesn't do that much. But, yeah, enjoyable show. Thanks for being here for the end of it with me. Thank you for having me. This was a pleasure, as always. So much fun. Everybody, go find Kara Berry. you can find her um kara b grahms on instagram and also the podcast everyone's business but mine wherever you get your podcast thanks kara thank you bye yeah and thanks everybody for being with us this season we'll talk to you next time watch what crappins would like to thank its premium sponsors ain't no thing like

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