Watch What Crappens - #362 RHOBH: Finding Dorit

Episode Date: January 5, 2017

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Starting point is 00:01:20 watch what crap ends. Hey everyone, welcome to watch what crap ends. A podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to watch. I'm Ben Madelker from BSIBlog.com and the Banta Blender podcast. And joining me, as usual, is the absolutely hilarious, wonderful, friendly gentleman who I am so happy to call my friend and my co-host.
Starting point is 00:01:40 It's Roni Karam. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, Roni, you're sweet. Ronnie, you're sweet. You are sweet, man. Ronnie Karam from trashtalktv.com and the Rose Prick's Bachelor podcast, which is, burn up the charts on iTunes. And also, a real House of Beverly Hills audiobooks. Well, thank you, Bian. Yes, everybody.
Starting point is 00:02:00 So welcome. Hi. Hi. So we're here. What an exciting day, Ben. It's a very exciting day. And by the way, let's also give a big shout out to Madonna Hines Madonna with a sexy J. We love her. Hines are super premium subscriber. Also, we have a very special late ass, Mary Christmas to Elizabeth Bullock. Well,
Starting point is 00:02:23 Elizabeth, we got a message, but we did not check the messages from your beautiful husband, Carl. And he got this for you for Christmas, and it's now 2017 that you're finally getting it. So consider us an Amazon UPS man who was late because the demand was just so high. Well, or let's just hope that you were Greek Orthodox and you haven't
Starting point is 00:02:46 sell big Christmas yet, right? Isn't Greek Orthodox Christmas like weeks later? Girl, how many Christmases do we get in this world? But you deserve all the Christmases ever Elizabeth. Your husband loves you. Well, you know what? Just because we missed a Mary Christmas to her, doesn't mean we can't send say a Mary, whatever January 4th is. I'm sure today is a holiday of some sort.
Starting point is 00:03:09 January 4th is the day of girls. It's the day of girls. It's a girls girls day. Well, so to Elizabeth, right? Elizabeth? Yes, Elizabeth. My brain is like actually dead. I'm like, what's her name again? Even that we just been talking about it for like a minute here. Today, Elizabeth, we want to wish you a happy dimpled Chad day, because that is what January 4th is, dimpled Chad day. It's also World Braille Day.
Starting point is 00:03:37 And it's also actually, it is Independence Day in Myanmar. So happy Independence Day, Elizabeth. And Myanmar. And Myanmar. While we're at it. Yes It's also the day of the fall and against the colonial repression in Angola. So that's a pretty strong holiday too Big day in the world guys. Yeah, it's a big day So today we are discussing the real house walls of Beverly Hills, which, wow, this was a really big turning point episode in the season because, you know, Beverly Hills is famous for
Starting point is 00:04:15 really fighting about nothing. I mean, these bitches will fight about nothing. And, uh, Eileen always needs something to get furious about all season long that really doesn't matter that much. So today she officially got that. So it's a huge day. And the audience has been confused because Rina has just been, no one, no one's hating on her because she's been just purely lovely. Eileen has been lovely. No one's hating on Eileen. I mean, she's doing great. We now have someone new to just heap our hate on. And it's actually the couple PK's entry. And you know, it's along those lines,
Starting point is 00:04:50 along those lines, I was on Reddit last night. And someone named Hart Deco wrote a hilarious comment, or I should not really comment, just an entry about Drupit. And I really feel like it's important to read this to our audience because I ended last This week's episode of Beverly Hills Feeling like wow Duret is really awful. I mean she is just so stupid and then I read this thing and it made me realize
Starting point is 00:05:19 I should be so thankful. So this is what Hartdacker wrote he said I should be so thankful. So this is what Hart Tucker wrote. He said, uh, the subject is, Doreet is my inept trash queen and then goes on to say, it's been a long time since I've seen a new housewife so tragically incompetent at the strategic game that characterizes the housewives franchise. And candidly I find it in thrawling. While I'm sure the hand of Vanderpump works its magic behind the scenes as ever, Doreet has an almost savant-like knack for picking the exact wrong arguments to endure herself to the audience to the point where it's reached painful hilarity for me. We're five episodes into the season now, and the only conflicts
Starting point is 00:06:01 other than the ever-percolating background shift between LVP and Eileen have been one, Doreet slut-shaming Erika for not wearing underwear at a party, and two, Doreet and PK armchair quarterbacking Halisa Rina and Eileen should process their grief for their dead parents, which she's unable to defend herself over, because it apparently happened during a fugue state that she cheerfully cannot remember. I suspect she is receiving her coaching from both Lisa V and PK, and that combined with her natural dimness have proven a potent cocktail because the hills she picks to die on are fucking insane. I can no longer look away from the spectacle that is to eat, she is a master of terrible house whiffery. Watching her in action is like viewing outside her art,
Starting point is 00:06:46 or listening to the shags. I must hear every misguided underwear joke. See every blank stare, behold, every new way Duret divides us to completely scud bomb herself off the show in a single season. And when I read that, I was like, 100%. When this, when Hart Deco compared Duret to outside her art, I was like 100% when this, when heart deco compared to read to outside of arch, I was like sold. Yeah, that is very, very well put and very true. I mean, this girl is just dumber than a goddamn brick. And she's
Starting point is 00:07:15 does everything that you hate in a housewife. I mean, the whole bragging about the money, there's the Vanderpump way to do it where, you know, like an improv class or writing class or whatever, they always say, show, don't tell, you know. And that's what Vanderpump does. You know, she'll be like, she never says, Oh, this house is so enormous. Blah, blah, blah. You see her god damn huge house. And then violin's play is she walks around, you know, throwing rose petals all over Donkeys. She bought from my house or whatever. But Doree has to tell, you know, she's like, we know these people, we have these things. It's just disgusting.
Starting point is 00:07:50 And our husband is just a despicable, disgusting human being. I mean, everything about him is just repellent. And you know, we, the first episode we were so excited because like, here's our new housewife and it's a fat man, you know, it's like fair and it's spreading across Beverly Hills, fat British Michael Corps. Yeah. But he really is playing this role and not only on the show, he's according to our old queen insiders from the Bravo producer ranks that we know.
Starting point is 00:08:20 PK is having a fit and threatening to sue everybody and wondering if he's going to be okay and try like just having a fucking cow all over the executive for how he's being betrayed or be trade portrait uh... even though it's the shit coming out of their mouth it's like yeah exactly it's what's coming out of his mouth he is uh... you know you can see his type a mile away as soon as you showed up on the show, you knew he was another Peter Bailey or another Jim Marcazi. You know, he's excited to be on TV and he's gonna get in the mix and he just really needs to show up. And this episode was a great example of it. This was a hilarious episode. So it starts off with Erica. And by the way, let me pause even before then.
Starting point is 00:09:01 The best thing about Doreet is that she's giving in my opinion, she's giving Erica a personality, she's making me finally start to really root for Erica. I'm like yes, I'm really on Erica's side here. So it starts off with Erica, she's in her wardrobe with Mikey who got this poor guy. He has injected his lips with who knows what it is, full on duck lip situation, face full. Oh, and that makeup. I mean, that guy.
Starting point is 00:09:31 It's a good looking guy. He doesn't have to. He's a good looking guy, and he doesn't have to do all this stuff to his face. It's to the level now where it's disturbing, because we're seeing him change so fast. I mean, he started out Mikey, you know, it's not like he was like so normal before, but wow, I mean, he's going, he's going that route really quickly. He, uh, the first time I saw him, I said that because the rumors always
Starting point is 00:09:57 that Burton or near gay, right? You know, it's like the big joke of Sesame Street. And I'm like, that's a bird, like out of the closet. He has birds face, but he's like, like, this eyebrows, and he wears a ton of makeup now, but it's still a bird, you know what I mean? Like, you can't escape it, you're a bird. So just face being a bird, you know? But this guy, yes, everything, yes, go, yes!
Starting point is 00:10:20 Oh my God, we should all have a Mikey in our lives. Exactly. Erica, yeah, so Erica's showing stuff for the video shoot It's like here's this what about the necklace and he's like I am obsessed settle down that's all my shit out. Helped me can he's like everything That link is like that missing G. Nell and the whatever girl. Yeah, so that's that. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:10:47 I'm sure. Humongous closet. And there is just gold everywhere. It looks like the Shaws of Sunset just fucking exploded all over that thing. And they show us a really close up price tag of this Cuban Chanel link. And I'm like, girl, you know that's to return it Impressing so um so Erica then shows Mikey the panties that to re-got her and he's like what? Does I like fault panties? Oh my god?
Starting point is 00:11:19 Star-Sup? Oh I have a lot There are a lot Star-Sus. All right. Where's that one? What? There.
Starting point is 00:11:24 There. Who the hell are they? I'm like, it's not obsessed. I'm not obsessed. Roma, Roma, Roma. Well, I'm obsessed. I'm not obsessed. How is the obsessed a nut?
Starting point is 00:11:36 Like, literally, let me pick this up and then drop them. I'm just gonna leave them there for your version of Rossiota to pick them up. And Dorit, so stupid, they're see through underwear. Like, like, she's still gonna be so in her badge. So, Erica basically says, rightly so. She's like,
Starting point is 00:11:55 this is for the woman who makes me not want to have women. She ruins it for all of them. It's like, yeah. Yeah, it does, but it also makes it so fun to watch you guys. So I don't know, take a cue kind of, but I'm liking. I'm liking that Eric is just, you know, at first I couldn't be completely on board because I was like, it's like sometimes horror, you know, with some old man money grabbing her badge on YouTube, which I mean, it's still the case. It's not like that's changed, but it's almost like the editors realized that that's okay. And it's okay to watch some boring rich lady who rise around
Starting point is 00:12:29 on the floor and just gets mad about everything. I don't know if it's just that I'm seeing so much of her, but I'm getting used to her and it's making, it's oddly making me like her. No, me too. Well, I think that she, I think we are getting more of her this season. I think last season, you know, we didn't just fully accept her just because she sings in gay clubs and she's nice to gay people and she caters to gay people and we didn't just be like, oh, well, therefore we automatically like her. We needed to see some personality from her. And the truth is, for all that we say about Doreet, she's not totally wrong the way she assesses Erika, which is someone like kind of cold and kind of reserved. But the good thing is that this season we're
Starting point is 00:13:11 seeing more of Erika, we're seeing her laugh a bit more, and now we're also getting to see her get angry. Like more angry than last season she really didn't get that angry. She was just like, I don't go to the fuck, but now she's getting annoyed, and I like it. Yeah, Matt, she's like, I don't have a fuck like she's really mad now. She's like angrily not giving a fuck, which is totally giving a fuck, which makes it better. Also, she doesn't have to fight for Yolanda this year. You know, I mean, every year they have someone that they have to fight for and Yolanda got her that job just like Doreet was getting, you know, Vanderpump helped get Doreet this job.
Starting point is 00:13:43 And so Doreet's fighting for Vanderpump And it doesn't help anybody when you do that, you know, you just have to be yourself. And so Eric is more of a free agent this year. I guess. So, um, so then we go over to to reach who is getting into a dress that looks like a blood clot. Yeah, look sensational, babe. Oh, make it turn. let me see that dress, babe! PK is the fucking worst. He is awful. And to read, as evidenced by the fact, you know, at the end of the last episode,
Starting point is 00:14:15 there's a lot of talk about the panties, and they finally put it to rest. And then PK says, I think compared to Erica Giant, it's quite long the dress. And then of course, she goes, at least I have underwear on tonight. I'm like, you guys are bringing, like, I can't believe we're still talking about the stupid underwear. Yeah, what have the Giants done to you? Like, Doreet has been traumatized by skid marks. Does it point their lie? Like, do they realize that the audience is not as amused by this? Everyone's just like, so what? It's a big so what and they keep bringing it up like, oh, this is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Especially when your face is totally filled and your tits are totally filled and you're wearing a tiny little skirt anyway, all to please a man that you're living off of. So don't pretend like you're doing anything different or you some different kind of hoe. Okay, you can be on a different corner or a different brothel or a different club, but a hoe is a hoe is a hoe bitch. Yeah, and ultimately, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:16 what you said about skid marks, I'd rather have a few skid marks on my underwear that I could wash off than have a Bentley that looks like a giant skid mark, okay? I'd rather have a skid mark in my pants than a skid mark on my underwear that I could wash off, then have a Bentley that looks like a giant skid mark, okay? I'd rather have a skid mark in my pants than a skid mark on my arm. That's, and at least Erica's money bags, has money bags. Yeah, so the reason why she's getting into her blood clot dress
Starting point is 00:15:39 is because she and P.K. are hosting a dinner party downstairs. So they go downstairs and there are people there at, what? Rina walks in and for some reason, you know, every day when then Lisa Rina does something where she doesn't even, she doesn't, she's not even doing anything.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And for some reason I'm like, I have a moment where I'm like, I love Lisa Rina. You know, last season it was when she, like her kid went to the hospital and she was with her kid's friend, and the friend was eating her croissant. I was like, you know what, I feel like Lisa Renault would buy me her croissant.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I had that moment where there's something about her that I find so, like I can just imagine her in my life. It doesn't make sense. Like I can imagine being with her in a waiting room and she would be like, I got it, don't worry about that. I got that'surs out for you. You know, I can imagine that, it makes me really like her.
Starting point is 00:16:28 And the way she walked into this dinner party, she was just alone and she sort of walked in with a smile on her face, her head was like, Bob, you know, popping a little bit, she's like, hello! And she's like, I love the way she walks into a dinner party like that. She poses and presents the bottle of wine.
Starting point is 00:16:42 She's like, wow, look at this! Why? I can't! Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm like, wow, look at this. Why? What a candy. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wow, look at this. Someone just mopped this floor. I mean, do you have a Roomba? What's going on here?
Starting point is 00:16:52 This floor is amazing. Yes. Lisa Render. So even though, I mean, I never liked how she went up against Vanderpump last season, I still, I'm such a big fan of hers. And this is not influenced by the fact that she actually did buy me a croissant ultimately.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Because that women winning Ben over with one croissant to the time. But Lisa Rena has a bottle of wine, but she's also holding a glass of wine and reads like, how did she get to glass of wine before even I did it me own power and run as he me own part. I'll be. even I did it me own part and run as he me own part and it's like job it. There's actually someone at the front door heading out this stuff. It's amazing. I got one right when I came in. You can get one.
Starting point is 00:17:37 And Jerry's like, there's an employee at the front door with wine. That's right. There's a guy at the wine. He's holding wine at the front door we find him to do so okay really in Doreen we get you hire the cater waiter to stand there with the tray a wine congratulate the relations get this woman in a ward yeah exactly and meanwhile outside pk is sitting with one of the guests and they're just being awful it's good for the have wants to see how the halves live, eh?
Starting point is 00:18:09 Are you talking about yourself? Are you referring yourself comparing yourself to the waiters? Because we know you have no money. Yeah, my first thought was this is why you invite rich people to your house Yeah, you don't actually have to walk outside to see them you asshole and also I have to point out that Doreet I had to go on Twitter to see how people were that Dereet, I had to go on Twitter to see how people were dragging her because I knew they were and they were and stupid Dereet still never knows the right thing to say. She goes on Twitter and she's like, just correct in the record. P.K. wasn't the one who said that the thing about the Heves and the Heavnots, that was someone else who wasn't his voice. I'm like, oh honey, that's like just one little piece of a very large douchey pie.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Yeah, no, it actually wasn't him. I noticed that I was the guy who's talking to you, but still I agree. It's still it's part of the larger picture of what goes on in the Doreet household. Yes, and they were obviously talking about their shooting at the their shooting this party for you guys and see how the half I mean I mean I think I in all honesty I think the guy was making a sarcastic joke but it still was a moxious you know yeah and then and then then for some reason they start talking about JFK and then PK turns and he sees the reason he's like oh baby I'm digging that view baby I'm like shut up. So gross. So then we get to meet Elliott Mintz.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Yes, who is the publicist to the stars. And we all believe that he's got blonde hair. Like really, Elliott's, you know, he's been lingering around the sidelines of the show for seasons because he, I think he reps like parasitin and various others. But this is like the first time he's actually finally been given a moment. Oh, what a moment it was. It's like this time of night, the air fresh, the flowers come to life. And Lisa Rina's like, uh-huh. She's like, I can't even do it. What to that? And she's just nodding too hard. You know how she does that? Yeah. She blinks really big and then she nods really hard. She's like, Oh, yeah. That bear is fresh. And then to read then tell this
Starting point is 00:20:21 interview, she's like, you know, I like having dinner parties because, you know, we don't, I don't like having born people. I don't like born people and they cut out, it being like, and then all kids at certain times the year they tend to build a little bit more, at least the one was like, uh-huh, uh-huh. I believe in intuitive expression. And Lisa ring was like, yeah, I believe investors, okay? That's what I believe in.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Have you ever worn a duster? Have you ever tried one on? They're amazing! They'll make you look so thin. It's your hair really blonde. I believe it. I'll buy it. I'll buy it, Natalie.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Ha ha ha ha ha. Let's take it on to QVC, baby. I've been up for 48 hours. Ever since I came back from Pennsylvania, I'm on that QVC schedule now, baby. I've been up for 48 hours. Ever since I came back from Pennsylvania, I'm on that QVC schedule now, baby. And then Erica, I mean, not Erica, Doreka's inch or out because I love that they're trying to make this this huge mansion, but it's like this tiny backyard. And anybody else's backyard, that would be where the dogs poop. There's always like a little alley where the
Starting point is 00:21:24 dogs poop in a tiny backyard. And that's where the dogs poop. There's always like a little alley where the dogs poop in a tiny backyard. And that's where the dinner table was. So I smell dog poop the whole time. But she's like, come on, boys. Everyone's hungry, boys. I'm like, who are you? What is this accent? Now you're from the Bronx.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Yeah, so then they, I'm calling a roomful to juice, boys. They don't like. So they, they all sit down and PK is trying to be, you know, just show some of that British wit intelligence. This is like PK in the vicious circle. And he's like, he's like Lesa. Are you a...
Starting point is 00:21:59 A killer. What? Bring Dorothy Parker with me. I will always bring Dorothy Parker with me. I don't know if I can. Sorry. We are, we are, we're not at the Algonquin, we're at the Al-Dumkin.
Starting point is 00:22:13 And so that's right. This is why you listen to watch or crap and it's because you never know when we're going to drop a Dorothy Parker and Algonquin reference, okay? Just you just wave. See we're high. Algonquin rhyming with Algonquin. Algonquin, we go high and then we go.
Starting point is 00:22:28 When we go high, we go low to paraphrase Michelle Obama. We'll do an Algonquin and then we'll take it to Algonquin. So while we are at the Algonquin hotel here, so Pique is like, Lesa, I was a fan of an analytical person. She's like, what? She's like fan of an analytical and a political person. And she's like, what? What? She's like, yeah, I don't think so. She's like, she can already sense that this is going to start getting awkward. Yeah, she knows what's
Starting point is 00:22:54 coming because Doreet does that thing where she says something nice and that lets her husband pounce, which that's becoming their their thing. Cause she's like, Oh Lisa, I'm so glad you came to Mipata because I really love when people enjoy themselves instead of you know. And Rina goes, Oh, yeah, I've been to some dinner parties. People get rowdy. And she's like, yes. And then PK's like sell. And he moves in for the kill. Yeah. They just thought the bottom Quote kill. Yeah, yeah, and then he treats her like an idiot because he's like, are you self-analytical? Like, maybe I shouldn't have said that As full and then they start talking about these savander pomp and then just Elliott starts babbling again
Starting point is 00:23:38 He's like, well, you know, there's a moment. There's a moment in time and you have to have that moment of the time passes and then there's more time and then there's spirits and the theory of it and they're all like, it's a subjective call. We are living but are we alive? When we breathe the air in, are we breathing it in or it is the air breathing us in? It's like, okay, you're all queen. You're no talk to you're no Linda Thompson, sir. This ocean, are we here for it? Or is it here for us? Do we fish for fish or do fish fish for humans? Now what now? Because we don't know what to fish things because we're not fish You make total sense mint. She's like I'm gonna do my transition away from this topic left
Starting point is 00:24:40 She's like Anyway Oh, she's just always different. Ah! Ah! Ah! Wah-wah-wah! Ah! Anyway! Ah! So, P.K. Yes. Ah! Ah!
Starting point is 00:24:53 So, P.K. So, P.K. starts up with Rina. And he is just trying to start shit up. I forget exactly what he's saying, but he's trying. He's like, I don't know what happened between you and these Savannah. But I have no idea what's so ever. I'm like bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. You've watched every episode of the show. We know you have you and boys, George. Probably sit there and watch it while you're locked to read outside the bedroom door. Try and get your dick sorry.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Hang on tightly. Let go lightly. Okay. Do they all have to rhyme Elliot and rent of the thing where she's like yeah he's so surreal and ethereal you know yeah I don't know what the fuck he's talking about yeah you're a publicist so yeah he's basically he's like well if I remember correctly, PK is basically saying things like, and oh my year is knowingly, it's Amanda Palm, she's always been sweet and wonderful, da da da da da da da, you probably know better since you wrote an audio book about it. Well, basically, yeah, he's just giving her shit about VanderPump and she knows it's
Starting point is 00:26:01 coming, so she's like, well, it's funny that you bring up VanderPump without even saying her name, because this reminds me of a thing with Lisa Vanderpump and she knows it's coming. So she's like, well, it's funny that you bring up Vanderpump without even saying her name because this reminds me of a thing with Lisa Vanderpump. And I apologize to her 20 times and then it cuts to her being like, I'm sorry, hard on you, whatever. And he's like, but why? Why were you hard on her, Lisa Rina? Have you been analytical about it?
Starting point is 00:26:23 She's like, well, she couldn't give me something that I needed, which was an apology for trying to ruin everybody's life with mine hasn't it? Make me look like a nitty-ditty on TV or whatever it was. But she was trying not to get too much in. She was trying to. She didn't want to reopen it because they finally just closed the chapter now during their healing phase, and he is trying to open it up again. He is like, and he wants to know what it's about. He's trying to get her to say something bad about Lisa Vanderbomb. That's what he is trying to open it up again. He is like, and he wants to know what it's about.
Starting point is 00:26:45 He's trying to get her to say something bad about at least Vandarpump. That's what he's trying to do. He's trying to bait her and then he's going to pounce and defend her. So he's going to prove his loyalty to Vandarpump while simultaneously trying to get Rina to look like an asshole. And Rina is just not buying it. And it's like, also, dude, the fight is over. It's done. Everything that you're asking about, like, well, at least Lisa Van Robbe, that would have been good last season.
Starting point is 00:27:07 But now it's done. It's old news, baby. Yes, darling. It's like your wife's latest hand me down. It's last season. Okay. Let it go. It's like Boy George's career.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Old news, baby. Sorry, Boy George. You didn't just say that. Maybe he's bold. Maybe he's bold with it. That kind of wears so much makeup. Oh my God. I'm like, Jesus, if you spent as much time
Starting point is 00:27:28 as you did shading your damn eyes on writing something, you might not have to live in this bitch's garage. You know, the thing is that I have no animosity towards George. I have no issues with him whatsoever. And I obviously, I like his music, but the fact that PK and Doreet keep banding him about as if like, as some sort of status symbol I'm just like shut up. It's making me not like board George my shut up and shut up YouTube boy George
Starting point is 00:27:52 He's like I didn't do anything. I know board George is probably furious right now. He's the innocent victim in all this Chaining so up Elliot men's is still Sid blabbing about nothing so R Rinneke's, look, I had a moment at I'm staying true to my truth, okay? And they're like, oh my God, she's so analytical. Self-analytical to you. And then so PK literally asks her, he's like, are you going to tell me what the situation was and not like he hasn't watched last season on leap and been instructed by Vanderpump what to do.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Exactly. Because he wants to get her version then go run until these Vanderpump, she said, this is what happened. You know, he's waiting to have a vital role in all this. And now here's where I have to call Rina out because she, this is not the first time she's done this and it's really rude. And it's something that housewives do. And we were just talking about it with ladies of London, which is whenever they're in a corner,
Starting point is 00:28:48 they bring something emotional and use that. Like for example, this season, Renek came into this after just being tortured on Twitter last year, tortured, and Eileen still is probably, because Eileen fights back, you know? But she's been tortured and she starts this like, well, my dad died. And also I lean stabbed and it happened and they're sure to get it all on camera every
Starting point is 00:29:09 time they do it. It's like being nice to us, being nice to us or parents are dead. And sure enough, she does it this time too, because PK won't let up. And she's like, well, look, my dad died. And I was going through a lot right then. And I lean, dad. And, you know, I'm proud of her because she didn't bring it up before the reunion because well that's not fair.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Well well okay so I'm going to jump in now because I don't think it was I'm not a cynical as you I don't think it was a manipulative thing to do. She was basically saying, we had a fight. And since the fight, I lost my dad. I lean to lost six people in her family. It puts perspective on things. And it's like, you know what, I just want to move on. And that's what, that's essentially what she was telling PK. And she, and she did say, and she told,
Starting point is 00:29:58 she was trying to say it's the way she could garner some empathy for him to be like, thinking about what's going on in our lives That this is what happens So it was like we had a fight we're moving on and this is why and she's like did you know? I lean she didn't tell anyone She lost six people in her in her family by by the time the reunion or whatever and I what I love is Doriko's Oh my god, and then and then peak is like well, that's not fair and
Starting point is 00:30:24 Doriko's from oh my god. Yeah That's not fair. I agree with that. I just love the way she turns on a dime with her emotions to follow her husband Yes, and then Ellie it meant says like six people that's practically a screen movie. I can sell that Doreet's like yes, I love scream and because like I didn't really care for no Film But I like sequel oh, well, I mean we all love the sequel the boy George only like the third one I mean I only like the third one too. I mean the second was nothing to be so good at but I like the second one more But it was my favorite
Starting point is 00:31:04 was nothing to be so good at but I like the second one more but it was my favorite. I don't know how long I can do PK and to read talking about the screen. Like that though she's so terrible and PK he's just an ass and he holds up his wine glass like I noticed this when I was a waiter people who are just douchebags trying to pretend they have money always hold their wine glasses up in front of their face and kind of swirl the wine around Yeah, and then scratch the cheese doing something to the wine and making them look intelligent like oh Your finger on pinkie or something. Yeah, yes On with it. So I'm going to scratch the my cheekbone with my pinky. Yeah, you can always tell those people is poor girl my pinky. Yeah, you can always tell those people is poor girl.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Celebrity beef, you never know if you're just going to end up on TMZ or trending on Twitter or in court. I'm Matt Bellasai. And I'm Sydney Battle, and we're the host of Wonder e's new podcast, Dis and Tell. Each episode explores a different iconic celebrity feud, from the build up, why it happened, and the repercussions. What does our obsession with these feud say about us? We're starting off with a pretty messy love triangle between Selena Gomez and Justin
Starting point is 00:32:13 and Haley Bieber, a seemingly innocent TikTok of Selena talking about her laminated eyebrows. It snowballed into a full-blown alleged feud. But it doesn't seem like fans are letting up anytime soon. Despite both Selena and the Bieber's making public statements denying any bad blood. How much of this is teen jealousy and lovers quarreling, and how much of it is a carefully crafted narrative designed to sell albums? Follow this and tell wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music Amazon music or wonder yeah. There you can't just because someone people who act like that and
Starting point is 00:32:51 brag about money in this and that are usually poor okay and we would test it as waiters and give them poor wine you know like the by the glass wine and watch them oon all over it and talk about the descent of blueberry and peppercorn. It's like, girl, that's some $5 wine fucking phony. Well, that's not fair to them. Yeah! I totally agree with PK on this. That's not fair to them. Well, I went off on this part, of course, and then I thought I was like, wow, that was a really long 20 pages to write. They come back from commercial and they're still talking about it. I was like, oh my god.
Starting point is 00:33:31 So this is where PK decides he's been beat, right? Because, look, you can't compete with dead dads and, you know, all these dead dad family members. So at least he has the forethought to know that he's being on that level. So he goes, he goes, oh, your father. Well, that's massively Serena. That's a game changer. Like he's congratulating Ron Wink, who's going with a dead dad. It's just so gross.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I hate that guy. And Serena says, look, I can't change P case opinion of me or how I grieve or what went down with his friend, Lisa Vanderpump. But blah, blah, blah. And she goes, I'm telling you this, my father dying had nothing to do with the fight with Lisa Vanderpump. And I was thinking, well, make up your mind, woman. Like you're kind of all over the place with this.
Starting point is 00:34:18 But that said, of course, I'm on her side with this. Yeah, I'm on, I'm on my side. I actually didn't get the sense that PK was telling her how to process her emotions. I got the sense that he was saying, listen, I'm sure if you called up Rinnett and Van Opem, I said, you know what? My dad just died. I have a new perspective on things. Let's move on.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Then she'll be open to that. The thing is though, that's, they've already moved on. So it's an unnecessary phone call. That's why it's sort of stupid. I don't think you was saying how to process your grief either, although that's what everybody is saying now. Yeah, I don't think he said that. I think he was just saying. And I was wondering, do you think it's unfair or not for Eileen to have withheld that her mom had just died at the reunion?
Starting point is 00:35:03 that her mom had just died at the reunion. Well, there are two ways to put it. One, I think what he was saying is that it's not fair to have that going on while everybody's basically a reunion to Gang Up Show, where everybody's yelling at each other and this and that. So afterwards, when everybody finds out your dad is dead, then they look like the asshole because they were mean to the person who's dead just died. Yes. That's kind of what I was thinking,
Starting point is 00:35:26 as he was saying. Exactly. And at a certain level, I actually agree about that because it's like, now they look like assholes. But at the same time, she didn't reveal all that stuff until this season. So it's actually,
Starting point is 00:35:40 they don't really look like assholes. I think everyone understands. Right, except that they did do it on, you know, except that now they're using that as a positive. Does that make sense? It's like, oh, she's so great for not revealing it. She went through all of that and not revealing it. Well, Eileen was kind of the one doing the beating up last year.
Starting point is 00:35:59 She was the one on the attack. It wasn't anybody else. It's not like Eileen was on the defense. She was on the offense. So it's, it just makes anybody else. It's not like I leaned was on the defense, she was on the offense. So it just makes it a very murky situation. But it is weird, because they are, I mean, essentially when that scene in the beginning of the season when Eroko was like,
Starting point is 00:36:13 what, no, I knew, was that your mother had died? You know, it was sort of like saying, yes, you went through this brutal fight and you deserve bonus points because on top of everything else, your mother died, so you were going through so much and this fight So which I also I do see that too. I don't think that should be You can't overlook that but I it's sort of like you do have to it's got to sort of be one way or another it's like
Starting point is 00:36:36 like you either get the credit for Getting throwing yourself into this mess while going through an emotional turmoil or you get credit for distancing yourself from the trauma. Yeah, you know, I can't I can't I can't hear you the cynical part of me says like If you're not gonna use your parents death, then why has it been used? Constantly because it's brought up whenever you need a garnish sympathy or a garner sympathy garnish Whenever you need to put a cherry on top of sympathy, whenever you need to garner sympathy, it seems to be brought up. And so the cynical part of me is like, that's gross, but it also is a very real thing to
Starting point is 00:37:15 lose your parents. And that pain is something that she has to deal with. And she should be bringing it up when it's to show about her life. So it's totally fair. So I'm kind of mixed on it. What I'm not mixed on is that I will be on their side over to Reitz because this woman's just a goddamn like a...
Starting point is 00:37:31 I think, especially PK. Yeah, I think that, I think PK's point stands that, you know, if it had been a situation where they had this huge fight and their turns out that Eileen's mom had died and she didn't tell anyone. And then if then became a thing where she announced, well, my mom died, how could you just want, you know, my mom had died and she didn't tell anyone and then if then became a thing where she announced well my mom died How could you just want you know my mom and died and you guys are assholes? That's unfair, but that didn't really happen so right like I understand why his impulse would be to say oh
Starting point is 00:37:54 That seems unfair that she didn't tell them and if they're having a fight like all the car should be on the table But the truth was they had the fight on their own terms and now it's been a while since that's sort of been announced. So no one was in any threat of looking like an asshole for coming out Eileen. And so I understand his impulse, but it was sort of incorrect. And on top of that, he wasn't really there. And the point is that he's in a certain
Starting point is 00:38:19 and self-inassituation. It's not as fucking busy. He's trying to read, he's not a woman. It's like Nene says, stop trying to be a bitch. Well, it's not as fucking bitch trying to read he's not a he's not a woman. It's like me. He says, you know Stop trying to be a bitch. Well, it's not even that, you know It's even if he weren't there which he wasn't It's it's more that he seems to be trying to open it up again and get the dirt and that's where this is all coming off feeling Iki and that's why he's losing
Starting point is 00:38:42 Yes exactly and it's an interesting turn because Lisa Vanderpump now is getting attacked more than I've ever seen, because this is actually kind of proof of what everybody is saying and has been saying for years, which is that Lisa goes behind the scenes and picks her people to battle for her, which she ain't the only housewife to do it, but she always has her minions and the people that do the dirty fighting for her. And Doreen is just terrible
Starting point is 00:39:09 at it. And she's the most obvious. So even if Lisa Vanderpump isn't this time saying, you know, that woman's a bitch. She did this to me, which we already know she is. We've seen her do it on TV. So we know that she's doing that. But even if she isn't completely manipulating this situation as badly as she has things in the past, now people are seeing it so obviously because Duret and PK are just not subtle. And so now, even though Lisa Vanderpump hasn't done dick, really, she hasn't done anything yet. Well, except for that thing, she said to Irene, but she hasn't done not much yet. And she's still already getting all this hate because people are like, oh, so you are doing all of this shit. And you're really bad at it.
Starting point is 00:39:50 You're like, you're losing your grip, woman. Yeah, to read in P.K. are ruining it for LVP. Yeah, LVP will always survive. LVP will be fun because for as many people who are hating on LVP because this, there are so many people that I think still just think she's the best. I think there's a lot of majority. So it's not really an issue.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Anyway, it's just funny watching how the audience turns so quickly. Yeah. But that's the fun of it, right? Yeah. So speaking of which, we then go over to Kyle and Maricio. Maricio is looking really good. I think the reason why is because he buttoned up more buttons on his shirt He's lately gotten to this thing where he's like basically unbuttoned down to his navel and now he was properly buttoned up And it made a difference. I appreciated it Mauricio And he was laughing because he got a ticket in Italy. He's like He's like, I remember when we went to Italy and I was driving, you know, 150 miles per hour. I got a ticket for it I'm like, I don't think this is something you should be
Starting point is 00:40:41 150 positive, I got a ticket for it. I'm like, I don't think this is something you should be bragging about. You had daughter in your car. Yeah, that's also when I was putting our kids life at risk and everybody else in Italy, so I could pretend that I was 20 years old again in a rented car. Remember that, honey?
Starting point is 00:40:56 Yeah, exactly. Please, please. This is like, I'm not amused by your midlife crisis right now. Okay. Yeah, I'm not really amused by Kyle's constant midlife crisis. I get it, you're busy. Kyle's like, we're so busy. Like, Mori has like 18 million offices.
Starting point is 00:41:12 And then I have my show, Alicia Silverstone, baby feeding, bird feeding, you know how it goes. So, you know, stars, Paris, shut up. She's like, Marisa built his agency from the ground up, really. I'm like, yeah, the ground up and by that, like he was with Rick Hilton. And so, it's not really ground up when you go from Rick Hilton to just starting your own thing.
Starting point is 00:41:32 You have a little bit of help there. Yeah, is the ground ricks like nickname? Because he stole a lot of clients. Allegedly. So then we go over to Malibu where Eileen, you know, if she's good for one thing, it's a terrible outfit. She's in some strange jumpsuit overall, denim, whatever. I don't know what it was, but it was crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I thought this one was kind of cute because it was, it was still, you know, she loves her overalls. Like, she will always find a way to wear overalls somehow. But these were kind of like H&M, you know, like suit material overalls. And I was like, you know, she's learning slowly. But I mean, right before the one that gets fired, you know, she's going to do a hot oil treatment.
Starting point is 00:42:19 So low growth. So there's Eileen talking with Vinnie because Rina, of course, Texter and I was like, hey baby This is what Doreet and Pekka have been saying about you. Wow, wow, wow. So Eileen is now getting a little huffy about it. It does herv at least though, I think. And so while they are chatting about that and throwing a ball around, we see Lisa Vanderpump
Starting point is 00:42:41 and Kyle driving around having a sort of a kind of a stupid scene where they, his husband would you bonk if you could bump someone else's husband darling. So it's like, okay. And Lisa Vanderpump chose Tom Girardi, which I thought was hilarious. She was too embarrassed by the other one. She's like, now I have to look much better from Ricia. Yeah. That was cracking me up. And then we kept cutting back and forth and our lean's telling events all this drama and Vince is just like who fucking cares
Starting point is 00:43:08 Can I borrow five dollars like seriously? I don't care. Can I get my allowance back? And you said I don't play tennis downstairs and I have to sit and listen to you Oh She she goes well So she goes, well, Rina was at this party. And somehow, the fact that I've had so many people die around me came up. Like somehow her name is Lisa Rina. Lisa, somehow, Rina. Yes, but she always lets everything go, you know, as long as it's Rina.
Starting point is 00:43:41 And Rina doesn't mean anything bad. Like they really are good teammates as far as being true to each other. You know, I just thought that was really funny because if anybody else had done that, I feel like she would have snagged onto that and held onto it forever. Right. So then we have like cross-cutting scenes as Rina and Erica, they go work out while Kyle and Lisa Vanderpump go get some like work done on their face It's kind of like a like a cross cutting between two different types of beautification upkeep So Rina and Erica Go to do go to Pilates, which is significant because now we finally meet Eden Sassoon the daughter of Vidal Sassoon Who is also going to be a prominent friend of the housewives this season. And so far, I like her quite a bit.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Now have they ever, because my memory is terrible, but have they ever added a full-time housewife during the season? They have. They have. The last season. Well, and Fadre came in the middle, I remember. So she could still be. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:44 They usually introduce new ones kind of towards the middle, but sometimes, yeah, I mean, they add them into the front. In other words, like, is she going to be a full-time housewife? Do you think her, is she going to stayfriend up? I think she's just friend of. I mean, she has, she has her own bio on the Bravo website, but I think she's just friend of, I think if she's going to be a full-time housewife, when we met her, there would have been a moment where she would have stood on the green screen background. I would have said, eat in.
Starting point is 00:45:11 And then we would have seen her with her kids. Life is so crazy with kids. And here's my Range Rover and here's my car. And here's my husband. And now I'm going off to my Pilates. But instead, we met her, but they didn't go into her life. Well, she's Cuckoo Bird. And her tweets are just hilarious to read.
Starting point is 00:45:28 And I'm trying to find some now, but she's tweeting a lot. So I can't dig them all out, but she was, she will, I think she's like a drunk tweeter like Brandi who she also looks like to me because she'll treat things like, yes, I am the show. I'm everything. This show is nothing without me. And then it's like her as like a superhero. And I'm like, I can't tell if this woman is getting or not,
Starting point is 00:45:50 but I can't wait because they got a crazy batch. Yeah. Yeah. So far, her craziness is like, it's under wraps. She's just, you know, she's just complimenting Lisa Renon or her and talking about Pilates and stuff like that. You know, so they're doing Pilates and I mean there's nothing really to say about these scenes You know Kyle and Lisa go to the go to the plastic surgeon to get some treatments done and there's a vagina
Starting point is 00:46:22 Prada and treatment's done and there's a vagina. Preve. Oh, pathetic. I was the join on. They're like, oh my God, that lady's talking about the joiners. That's hilarious. And they do bring out the vagina probe and she goes, oh, that's too big for me, and Carl says, well, that says a lot about kin. I miss that. I do like them being friends again.
Starting point is 00:46:43 I'm really glad that they're friends again. Even though Kyle still needs to be pushed off a cliff, if anyone's going to do it, you know, I'd rather she be friends with Lisa than enemies. Kyle doesn't bother me as much as she bothers you. I mean, she's bothering me this season. She's just not doing anything, but normally she impure it. Yeah, I've said it a million times. I'll say it again. I like Kyle when she's bitchy
Starting point is 00:47:06 I don't like it when she's nice. I like it when she gets mad at someone when she has a feud and she goes out because she Kyle has a mouth on her and she has a temper and she has been keeping that under wraps for oh pretty much I guess it's for now. It's been like a season and half. The season before that when Kim, when she was fighting with Brandy, ooh wow, that came out then, which was great. Well, Kyle and Lisa are gonna run into some trouble soon because they're both kind of keeping themselves away from the fray and they just wanna do scenes
Starting point is 00:47:40 on their own for the most part and they're staying above the fray. And that is not, you can't do that. That's not good for us. No one wants to watch Kyle's reality show. It's like we work a lot. Yeah. You know, well speaking of the fray, Eileen and Doree, they meet at the beach and Doree pulls up in her nasty brown Bentley. I mean, honestly, the car so I mean, Bentley's are beautiful, but that color makes the entire car just like look like a giant shiny turd driving around. beautiful but that color makes the entire car just like look like a giant shiny turd driving around. It does. I'm sorry. I know it's like Riz Gold. It looks shitty.
Starting point is 00:48:09 It is. Yeah. It's a fagley car and it's also a girth murderer. You know. Yeah. So like why don't you just drop some trash on your way out. Yeah. Don't poke her. So they pull up at a beach and do it's like, can you believe this was my birth they present? Can you believe it? Shut up and read. And I lean it's like, yeah, what a pretty car. It's like, can you believe? How cool just it is.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And I lean, they're trying to walk down to the beach, but it's a windy day. And I lean, the dress starts flying up, but she holds it down and Doreet's like, thank you for already seeing one of those but Jay Jay you trying to show me yours as well whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo whoo who out. So Eileen is getting better at just starting things like super nice, disarming someone before she goes in for the kill, like she's learning. Well, on top of that, I'm sorry to interrupt.
Starting point is 00:49:12 No good. I think what was interesting about this is the power dynamics were very different because when Eileen went to confront Lisa Vanderpump, she was afraid because Lisa Vanderpump is the Queen Bee and she's intimidating. But Doreet is in nothing, and Eileen knows she's in nothing and Eileen is like, I'm famous. I'm famous, okay. I am going to destroy that,
Starting point is 00:49:34 because you can see the demeanor with Eileen was totally different. She was confident and she's like, I don't know who the three women is, but I'm gonna destroy her now. This is Clive. This is the Eileen that we all used to know two seasons ago. Yeah, Eileen's basically like, listen, honey. I've known Boyd George since he was thin and begging to live in my garage. Yes. So get out of my face.
Starting point is 00:49:57 So Dory is trying to make these vagina jokes or whatever. And Eileen's like, oh, well, thank you for driving all the way out here. She's like, guess what I'm not in my passport, which I use all the time. Cause I'll travel the world. And I lean. Yeah, she's like, well, I mean, and then I only makes a joke. Well, I'm sure that the new car makes it easier. Just like a joke and doing something like, haha, she's like, you know what? It really does.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I'm not going to lie having this big expensive crime makes the drive so much easier Like no, I thought I was shit. I thought I was shitting myself, but then I realized it was a seat. Woma! I like it. I feel like I'm driving a giant bean Little woman giant bean Well, I hope you'll drive out here again because there's another lunch at our friend Camille's house and she's like, you know, Camille. Oh, from the books, she's like, no, Camille grammar, you know, you should be married to a sitcom star. Oh, I thought you went to the tea Camille tea, that's Camille, you stupid idiot. So who I only drink slipped on. Camille T. That's Camille, you stupid idiot.
Starting point is 00:51:08 So who only drinks Lipton? So this is this is all Eileen's elaborate way of Sort of getting over to the fact that she heard about what Doree was saying like she's like, oh, you know I heard that you and Doree. I mean you and PK were mentioning my father to Andrew and Doreet's like, you know, I don't really remember your name being mentioned if I'm being honest. I was like, this woman is crazy. Wow. This was the funniest scene to me. I had leans like, so I mean, I heard you brought up my father dying. Your father DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Yes, it was a Minnesota which is a wonderful restaurant You heard of this restaurant called Minnesota. It's actually downstairs For my bedroom on the backyard and they're like 20 people though. That was your party I don't think so. I think it was a restaurant called Minnesota Actually was this Thursday when stair was at Caesar's palace no not Las Vegas actual Caesar
Starting point is 00:52:27 It's where they invented the salad. It's where they invented tiny $5 pizzas. What a wonderful treat! I was honored by the queen. Do you know that PK is very good friends with Leo Caesar. Very good friend. He's actually the one who does the second pizza. You know, pizza pizza? It's Lil Caesar and then PK together singing a song, pizza pizza. Boy George did the instrumentation, but unfortunately, it's scrapped for the commercials. I mean, it's like seriously, my dad, my mom died and then you brought it up at a dinner party
Starting point is 00:53:05 It's like party dinner those things don't mix do they you either party or you have dinner if you're true lady But now what are we talking about again? You're a dinner part. I'm not it's like something finding Dory Finding Dory's oh my god. That's totally going to be this episode's name name finding door reach that's oh my god we just stumbled into that one finding great ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha So, Dandy, I had a dream of a path made out of cells. She's like, no! That's a driveway in your house where you had a party. She's like, Jennifer Lopez.
Starting point is 00:53:54 No! Do you like my new car? It's actually a sea turtle. It goes so fast if you get on to the highway. All the jet stream, whatever you call it. Oh my God. Well, back onto the octopus to get back to where I am. For every chance I'm supposed to be gone.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Are we at the circus? There's some Niklam fish around here. I mean, it was like what's happening. I do want to mention actually, we were very briefly over a point which is that before Eileen was confronted about this, I give props to Eileen because Eileen basically told to read, okay stop with the panty jokes because once again, Doreet was making a joke about, oh you know, I've seen a lot of underwear, I have to thank you for wearing underwear and Eileen was like, you know, yeah you should probably stop with that.
Starting point is 00:54:43 I think Erika felt a little blindsided because we were all in the joke and she was. I think she was embarrassed and and she's like, oh, it's a faux pas. It's a faux pas. That's French. I could have French a lot. I know these words. I was like, no, you embarrassed her. She's like, she's like, that was just a cashew chicken. You know, in Chinese, that's what they say when you just do something slutty to dinner party. So you admit that you had a dinner party? No, I'm not familiar with the concept.
Starting point is 00:55:15 So it's like it was just a butter croissant. No, it was rude. So then Eileen is like, I just, you know, I just, Eileen, by the way, she is really doing a good job, I think, because she's not being a bitch. She's just being friendly, but she's asserting herself. She's like, I don't know, I just, you know, there's just what Rina texted me, and I just, I thought it'd be weird if I didn't mention it.
Starting point is 00:55:35 And Dury's like, well, frankly, I think it's weird that you did bring it up. That's why Eileen is like, oh, fuck you, bitch. Eileen, Dury, it goes, we didn't talk about you and I think goes, but you don't remember and that's weird. Does that make sense? She goes, no. I think goes, yes, it does.
Starting point is 00:55:58 And you're entering. During this, wait, are you trying to say that your fight with Lisa van der Pum has nothing to do with the death of your mom? And that means yes, she goes, why didn't you just say that darling? I love her British, you make her sometimes. Darling! If Brenda Blethen arrived. Darling, why didn't you just say that? I can't say arrived. Darling, why did you say that? Why did you say him a daughter?
Starting point is 00:56:29 It has no rhyme or reason to her accent. It just changes. It's like, are you Audrey from Little Shop of Horrors or the head of Downton Abbey? Like make up your fucking mind. Tracey Ollman in Bullets of a Broadway. Or the American lady in Downton Abbey. You know, her accent was really fucked up too. or Mrs. Padmore in doubt nabby or O'Brien and Mrs. Undo nabby or Scherz Neffellabegas who doesn't even talk or Mary Crowley. This scene was so
Starting point is 00:56:59 funny to me and then Dury ends it by going, I'm still imparted to the lunch at this, at this Lemiel person's home, or whoever, I've never heard of my life. I've never heard my entire life, Camille. Camille, I'm not familiar, she's not married to some sick hum star, I'm sure, I've never heard of that. So then we, then we go to Rina what who is doing blind That's her text noise. What
Starting point is 00:57:32 She's getting lunch with Erica and Eden Oh, they're just talking more just talking more about like Eden's telling us how basically every Movie star that we know who's about 45 got their drug habits and her living. Yeah, she's like, well, I know Kim Richards because my sister who's now passed from a drug overdose knew her and they did a movie together and they would come over and party in our house and Robert Downey Jr. would be there and James Spader would be there and like, oh
Starting point is 00:58:04 my God, this is the most depressing story I've ever heard. And I could just imagine Kim Richards being upset every time she sees Robert Downey Jr. in a movie. Yeah. Well, I won't just talk back to me. Poor Kim Richards got the raw end of that deal because Robert Downey Jr. is an a-list Hollywood star. James Spader has a hit TV show and Kim Richards, you know, she makes chicken salad.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Kim Richards is literally on the blacklist. Oh God. So speaking of $25, it's signatures. You're losing now, copper face. So who's losing now copper face? So speaking of the Richards, we then go over to Kyle bringing some food over to the agency where Mauricio is wearing an agency t-shirt. I'm like, we get it Mauricio.
Starting point is 00:58:57 You don't have to sell it. Like, just stop wearing all your swag, OK? It's like the agency sponsored by Fat Burger. Did you notice that these are white blazers, which is what the wife in secrets and lies or secrets and wives made all of her husband's employees where did you notice that? That is hilarious. Well, that made sense
Starting point is 00:59:17 because her husband was a doctor. I think Mauricio was just having a white moment. He was like getting ready for the white party that night. He was like, maybe I'm ready for the party. Just that. Um, ready for Bob Bogey. Yeah. So it was like a nothing scene.
Starting point is 00:59:30 It's just like, daughter's in turn. It was nothing. It was really nothing. I was just basically like, I miss you guys. Alicia Silverstone. What do you think about that? He's like, oh, I have like 90 offices now. So I'm like, fast forward.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Yeah. So now, come here, like a new friend, Floyd Kimber. Now I don't know what happened fast forward. Yeah. So now Camille a new friend, Floyd Kimber. Now I don't know what happened to D.D. or Hagrid, but they're not here. Now it's this new girl Kim Kimber. Yeah. And Camille does this thing that I like where she picks employees that are like pretty, but not as pretty as her. And around her age, but older. She knows when she gets a new man in that assay, fucking the nanny, that's the damn. That is correct.
Starting point is 01:00:11 So we have a nice update on Camille, which is that she just moved to new house. That's basically it. And then Eileen shows up and then Doreet and then Erika. And every time, it was about five minutes of a dog barking, by the way, he was just barking the entire time There was BB she's like let me out of the basement so there was there was some issue with a cork and
Starting point is 01:00:35 Eileen actually managed to break the corkscrew in the process to try to open up the the bottle And yeah, deyada they just sit down to lunch and then that's when the fun really begins. And Erica's like, that way, way of the way, bitch. And she's like, how that's so funny. And so Doreet, you know, Doreet has an axe to grind with Erica for sure. Because again, she's mad that Erica called out her accent. So, and now she's mad probably that I lean. Now she's mad that Erika was embarrassed by her jokes. You know, it's that thing where she embarrassed Erika, and then Erika was embarrassed and has told people that everyone now thinks that
Starting point is 01:01:12 that Duret is the bad one for embarrassing Erika, and she is now mad at Erika for putting that on her. So now she's come back at Erika again. This is the way all girl fights work. Yes, and Ambi says, yeah, and I think that she was thinking So now she can come back at Erica again. This is the way all girl fights work. Yes. And on these shows. Yeah. And I think that she was thinking they're bringing her to lunch, which means they're going to try and start a fight with her. And because that's what you do on the house wise.
Starting point is 01:01:33 And so she's ready for this big fight that just doesn't happen. Like no one's even trying to fight with her. Basically, I mean, poor Camille is literally poor. I mean, she's feeling them out of takeout containers. And she's wearing like some weird polyester thing. And then her interview dress is like this Laura Ashley $5 thing for the dress bar. And I'm like, Camille, you trying to get more money? I'm not believing your poor. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Exactly. But so, you know, she's like, well, this takeout salad is good. Is Nick? Guys, do you taste the tin? I hope not. I'm a researcher shows up. And she's just like, well, this takeout salad is good. Is it, guys? Hmm. Do you taste the tin? I hope not. I'm a researcher shows up. And she's just like, well, you know, with takeout, it's, you know, you never know what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Oh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Did you notice that we're going to be celebrating somebody else's, yeah, one of the same day that we hear a bunch of friends. Oh, so, I'm setting. I know. Did you see that she was doing that this whole scene? I actually was. Especially.
Starting point is 01:02:30 It was so good. I was hoping you were laughing your ass off too because first, first Doreet just starts throwing these barbs, which she knows what she's doing. Okay. She's like, so Erica, so you do these songs, these little songs, Eileen's like, well actually, you know, she's got her ninth number one on iTunes and she's like, is that a tape store? She's like, no, it's where people listen to music. So I'm sorry, my awareness of the music industry has not advanced past boy George's prime
Starting point is 01:03:10 So do you play a keyboard she like no she grabs us grabs her vagina on YouTube? What is this tube? What is this like it's like a London? She go on to a subway and grab a push there. It's a pretty little plus. We've all seen it. Am I right ladies? She acted like she doesn't know what anything is and she goes So you're shooting a video is this about giraffes. I love giraffes. I saw one in Africa, which is right next to you know Caesar's palace. She's like no It's a it's a music video and Well, how does that work then do you you know Learn how to make music first or do you make a video and then come up
Starting point is 01:03:46 with the song later and just try and make it all match? I know I should know more about this, as I am in the industry, I'm like you're not in the industry, bitch, you're in the car. So eventually, so then Doree tells us, the interview she's like, you know, I don't know much about Erica Jeans music career, which by the way, just saying that is very pass-aggressive to imply that her career is nothing. So I don't know much about Erica Jean's music career, which by the way, just saying that is very passive aggressive to imply that her career is nothing. So I don't know much about Erica Jean's music career, but I do deal with Boy George on a daily basis. Like she's acting as if she has access to,
Starting point is 01:04:18 like, you know, the boy George has access. I mean, like I and signed things for $5 in Indian casino. This is not Clive, what's his face? Five Davis. Yeah, it's boy George, OK? He had like three hits in 1984. I mean, not going to be shady.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Oh, no, no, I know what you're saying. But I mean, he's most famous recently for like, chaining a call boy to a radiator and luntin' or something, is he? Yeah, I know what you're saying, but I mean he's most famous recently for like chaining a callboy to a Radiator in London or something is me. Yeah, I mean he did he basically he had a few hits in the in the 80s That of course were super famous and beloved and he wrote music for a play in the 90s or the 2000s He changed someone up in an apartment and now he's on celebrity apprentice and you're using that as like The reason why you're informed about the music industry. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:08 She's like, so how does it work? What did you do first? And she goes, she goes, I deal with boy George and I can tell you that this Erica Jane doesn't have a performer aura. She's very close, Dolph. I'm like, look, just because the bitch ain't begging to live in your garage and do your makeup for you doesn't mean, you know your garage and do your makeup for you. It doesn't mean she has no talent, you fast.
Starting point is 01:05:28 But Erica is just determined to not fight with this lady. And she's like, well, it is unusual that I even have it number one. And Doreet says, why? Why would that be unusual? And she says, because you're supposed to be 20. She says, but you are young. And don't you think that what comes in your 40s is a sense of contentment? Erica Stoutcheng has your birthday for a week. Yeah, they all the women just laugh at to reach. They'll go, come here. I was like,
Starting point is 01:06:04 it was amazing. By the way, we go. Oh, go ahead. No, I was like, ha, ha, ha, it was amazing. By the way, we guys, oh, go ahead. No, I was just going to say that we also missed the fact that to reach called Erica's career, a hobby, which is going to be one of those quotes that's going to come back to Hunter for sure. Oh, yes, he sure did, too. So I guess this is little hobbitha. Someone could have just brought her a light bright and saved a soul, the pussy patting. But no. So I learned it's like, yes, you do stay, you know, you do get more comfortable as your older and I'm older and I'm fine with it. And I feel good how I am.
Starting point is 01:06:36 And I'm still having fun. And I also, and I lean because you also care less and less what people think. Because if I lean, everything means something, you know, yeah. I'm like, everything she says. I'm like, I lean, did you see last season? Were you not in your 40s last season? Because you hear a lot about what people thought. Yes, and actually so does Erica. Like, Erica can never let it go either. So Erica's like, you make your own lane and Eileen goes it's very emancipating. And then key Camille is like okay let's get this show on the road. So I heard you guys went on a hike. It's like dun dun dun, here it all comes.
Starting point is 01:07:22 And Doree, who says oh she was telling me about a conversation and Doreet jumps in oh, well, I didn't want to seem dismissive to the situation, which nobody said. Yeah, she's just starting a fight with herself. And Erica goes, there's a situation. And I lean like, well, it wasn't a situation. What happened was I had heard that Doreen PK were bringing up the fact that I've lost 90 people in the last month or whatever. And it wasn't that thick of a deal.
Starting point is 01:07:47 I wasn't being confrontational, and Dereet goes, I didn't say you were. I just said we had a chat. They were so crazy. Did we actually go to the beach? I'm not sure. I think I don't quite remember. This is the first time we've met. Is it not?
Starting point is 01:08:06 I don't know why we would have talked on a beach. We were on a beach together. Oh, insane, Martin. Oh, what a lovely trip. You were the one who brought me the orange juice. Where you not? We were on the Dutch side of the French side. I just can't remember what part of the island we are.
Starting point is 01:08:22 I'm so terribly sorry I mean We were three miles away You we were outside at the beat French fries you want French fries I could have someone ordered this for you Come here darling. Is there anyone with French? So can you get Kimber can you get Kimber? She can be so lovely Where have we met before we I mean I swear was Kim., I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so lovely. Where have we met before? We've, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so lovely. Where have we met before? We've, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so lovely. Where have we met before? We've, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so lovely. Where have we met before? We've, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so lovely. Where have we met before? We've, I'm so, I'm so lovely. Where have we met before? We've, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so lovely. Where have we met before? We've, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so lovely. Where have we met before? We've, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so lovely. Where have we met before? We've, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so lovely. Where have we met before? We've, I'm so, I'm so lovely. Where have we met before? We've, I'm so, I'm so lovely. Where have we met before? We've, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so lovely. Where have we met before? We've, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so lovely. Where have we met before? We've, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so lovely. Where have we met before? We've, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, I was loving it because obviously she knows what she's talking about and her choices are either getting a fight you're gonna lose because it was city which she did or just pretend you know just just say i don't remember but um she did the she did the thing she really crossed the line when i leaned hard to say something and because let me just finish like oh
Starting point is 01:09:21 I mean, it's hard to say something. And because, let me just finish. Like, oh. Oh, I lean, I mean, I don't forget. I lean hates that. I lean hates that. And I lean goes, oh snap. T. T.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Peace, how could you? This is the I lean that I like. You know, I lean for a season I loved I lean because I felt like she, you know, she has this sort of like cold wasp air where she sort of looks down on people. And then when she went up against at least a van a pump, it did so badly. It's ruined the Eileen mystique.
Starting point is 01:09:51 But now that she has Duret as a foe, it's the Eileen that I like again, just impervious to idiocy. Yes, I think there's only a few housewives who can really pull off being on the offense. Usually, they're more likeable on the defense. And Eileen is one of those. It's just better on the defense. I mean, last season, I got what she was saying. And she wasn't wrong about what she was saying. She was just caring too much. It was the wrong fight. It just, it's a little, like, a wrong time. Yeah, she just, she just botched it. She stumbled out of the gate and she couldn't recover and she tried to recover all season and what and she got herself really more worked up about it as result of her ineptness or
Starting point is 01:10:31 Ineptitude with about it. Yeah, so this is really stronger a stronger opponent for her I mean very very rare to see a housewife who is self-aware enough to fix their ish is self-aware enough to fix their issue. I lean in on one hand, people are like, Oh, God, here goes I lean again, picking one thing that she's going to be pissed about all season. But in her defense, this lady won't even admit anything. She's just trying to have a conversation. I see I lean just being much more willing to be calm and collected this season so far. And I'm liking it. I'm liking
Starting point is 01:11:05 like her air of smodiness. I'm liking that she's upgraded the wardrobe a slight bit. Greg Bennett from Real House was a New Jersey tweeted last night. I love that I lean redid her whole kitchen, but she still has a collection of her son hats on display. That's funny. And that's like one of the reasons you love I-Line, you know? Yeah. Good episode. I'm enjoying it so far. I think to read as much as she's an idiot, she's making things really amusing.
Starting point is 01:11:35 I agree. And this has been a really, really fun week of doing five shows and covering more in depth of all of these shows. And all of the shows have been really on point this week. Yeah, so everyone thanks for listening. We are back tomorrow with ladies of London. We're on that on Friday. It's marriage medicine and crap and some mailbag. Be sure to check those out and if you didn't realize we're five days a week. They've already been two episodes this week with real House of Atlanta and Top Chef and then Better From Rules. So go check it out if you missed it.
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