Watch What Crappens - #399 SummerHouse: Kate Casey Crossover Episode!

Episode Date: February 24, 2017

Here's something interesting for your Friday: we did a crossover with Kate Casey of "Reality Life with Kate Casey." Basically, we went to her studio, and we talked "Summer House," but also "Bachelor," "Southern Charm," "Vanderpump Rules," and more. And because we didn't get to cover everything we wanted on "Summer House," Ronnie and Ben circled back at the end to talk about the show for an extra 25 minutes! Hope you enjoy! 00:00:00 - Intro / Kate Casey crossover fun times 01:01:06 - Summer House extra content See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Who crap is Who crap is Watch what crap is Watch what crap is Who cares what happens when there's so much Who crap is Who crap is Hey everyone, welcome to Watch For Crapins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just live to watch. I'm Ben Mandelker from BsetBlog.com and the Bantar Blender. And joining me as usual is the wonderful hilarious and always very special

Ronnie Karam from trashtalktv.com and also Rose Perks Bachelor podcast and Real House was Beverly Hills audiobooks Sometimes hard to remember all those things Ronnie Ronnie. Anyway, today is a very special crossover episode because we are crossing over not in any sort of spiritual way, although it was sort of a spiritual experience. But actually, we are crossing over onto different podcasts and that podcast is crossing over on doors. It's reality life with KKC. Yes, Kate invited us onto her podcast, and we decided why not just do it across over. So our podcast is gonna appear on her feed

and herges appear on our feed, and we all just sort of got together and talked, we talked about our rules, and then we talked about Summer House, and we talked about the Bachelor, and we talked about Southern Charm, and just a lot of bravo stuff. But since Fridays are our summer house days, what you're gonna hear is, you're gonna hear our episode with Kate. And then afterwards Ron and I sort of circle back around to cover the summer house stuff we didn't get around to with

Kate. So, if you're looking for your summer house recap, it's going to be sort of bits and pieces, but listen to the whole thing because I think you're going to really enjoy it. And Kate, thanks for having us on and super cool doing this crossover with you. The Amazing Kate Casey. Welcome, Prepare Yourselves. This is a great, great day. This is the great crossover interview segment show of 2017, right? So I am here with Ronnie and Ben from Watch What Cropin.

Hell yeah, and we're here with Miss Kate Casey. So I am delighted because you guys love reality TV, like I love it. Yes. I love it hard. Oh yeah, we love it too, yeah. Do you guys text at night too? I mean, you do the show together.

Do you also text when you're watching shows or do you reserve that till you watch the show? We don't always text, but if there's something that's really no worthy, like they'll be a texturge. I mean, Ronnie sent me a text last night, actually. Yeah, I text when I can't hold it because Ben's my only friend that I really can talk about this stuff with. My other friends are like, no, shut up. You're an idiot. Read a book. But I know a lot of people in LA who are like, I don't own a TV, which you know, F- I hate those people. First of all, people are just liars.

Yeah, right? It's like people who say, oh, I don't want, I don't read trashy magazines, but I guarantee you that they have an opinion on Angelina and Brad. Yeah. Oh, yeah, everybody does. Is he a piece of mercy? If I have a friend who has a husband who puts down tabloid magazines and then I find out that they read them I buy them subscriptions to magazines like national inquire and I put it in their name

Oh, so the way people come over they see, you know, it says like Michael DeVoe, you know, right? Yes, you like you're framing them. It's had Lloyd frame. Absolutely. How about you? Who do you text while you're watching the shows? I have many girlfriends that I text, and we usually watch the shows at the same time. So it's glorious. And then I love it when someone I haven't spoken to in a while, it will just shoot me something out of the nowhere. Like, are you kidding me with the dudes on Vanderpump rules wearing women's drag outfits for a bachelor party? That's the worst bachelor party I've ever had.

How many straight guys do you know? What alone gay guys that would dress up as women further before we get married party? Very few. I didn't really even understand that. I mean, I appreciated it because it was really fun to watch and it made for many hilarious gifts. And the fact that they got into such a huge argument at the height of that episode,

that they were in drag, they're the whole thing, was kind of amazing. But no, I would, as a practical matter, I don't know if I personally would want to get a driver. Well, I feel like those guys are wasted together so much, they've at least blown each other. Yeah, so I think at this point, it's like at least where wearing dresses now,

like they're inching towards heterosexuality from their drunken gay hookups, I think. I was alarmed. I think that Tom Schwartz is a very handsome man. However, it was concerning to me how much he looked like Caitlin Jenner in his outfit. And I feel like he was embracing it more than he should have. Yeah, I think actually Jack's is the one

who really got into character. He he seemed to get that chewing on the sunglasses looks down with his little bob. He loves his sunglasses. I'm easy to steal them too and I'm given to some of mom. That's all he thinks about her sunglasses. I all of them were fairly ugly. I have to say as as women. Yeah, I thought there'd be like one who you'd say, you know, that that that guy made a surprisingly hot woman. Maybe Tom sort of had like a little bit of a look when he had the when he had the long black wigs sort of. I feel like actually the the the one who did impress me the most was Arianna's male drag. But she looked like if she didn't have that ridiculous mustache, she would have been like a hot guy. She looked like a boy bander.

She did. She looked like a twink with a fake mustache. It was weird. She could have been in one direction adjacent. Yeah. So that'd be like 98 degrees. Oh, we won direction. Sorry.

I just like color me wrong. Yeah. Color me bad. Well, I think the problem is that they hired drag queens to actually make them look like drag queens and they shouldn't have done that. Yeah, if you have a good girlfriend, she will make you up. I mean, I can make a pretty woman, you know,

I mean, that's the scary thought because a woman will do it for me, not a man. I mean, those guys are like clowns. They make you look like Ronald McDonald, like putting that makeup over Tom's eyebrows. Tom works on his eyebrows all day long. Well, I'm glad you pointed that out because I feel like during their normal life, they're like lady men already. So there was a slippery slope. I mean, more makeup, they're actually more attractive in their regular life. Yeah, this actually made them look

more like men because they're like, oh my god, they're men. I agree. I agree. I was having a lot of issues with Jackson's, his little bob, because I know that that sort of fuchsia bob he was wearing is kind of like a classic drag queen wig. And yet the way he wore it made him look sort of like a lady from accounting or something like that. Right, it was very strange. I was like, oh, maybe she's an HR. Yeah, like a HR, like her name could be Peg. Peg. Yes. You know, and she has, she's just watched

the bachelor and she is like ready to go out on the, on the town, but like by 830, she's ready to call a quetz. Right. Apple teeny and then goes to bed. Exactly. Why can't Jack's ever close the door when he goes to the bathroom? He's like a barbarian. Jack's needs to be seen naked all the time. He's like those dumb hos we see in Hollywood and the bachelor, you know, which they just need to be, they need their boobs to be seen at all. That's how they're used to getting love and attention. And I think that's Jack's and it's just translated into pooping.

Like is he thought it goes so far that now he'll poop like that? To be fair though, would you want to be trapped in a room with closed door with his poop smells? I think he's really doing it for self-preservation. Really, just, I didn't need to see his urine stream. And he didn't wash his hands by the way. Did you know that? I would probably say he has not washed his hands

for long before that pee stream. I was actually shocked they showed pee stream. I was like, I was before that peace dream. I was actually shocked. They showed peace dream. I was like, I was too. You know, I was a must. We've seen Piano Brava before, AKA Bethany Pinging a Bucket once for several times, but I don't think I've ever seen peace dream on TV. It was so specific.

I knew he was dehydrated. Yeah. Yeah. It was a little bit much. Yeah. I'm surprised Brittany hasn't contracted pink eye by now because she's a round of guy who never washes. You know, at some point, he's like trying to wipe a little bit much. Yeah, I'm surprised Brittany hasn't contracted pink eye by now because she's a rounded guy who never washes. You know at some point he's like trying to wipe

the makeup off for her or something. I know that you guys love and I love to hear you do your impressions of the cast on Summer House. Oh, we love love. Give me a little bit of the work as twins right now. Carl? Carl? Carl? Hey Carl, you want to hear the work as twins? Carl? Hey where's Carl right now? Where's Carl? Where's Carl? Is Carl coming? Where's Carl? He's coming. Where's Carl? Where's Carl? He's calling you. Carl's not respecting you right now. Hey Carl, what's the reaction? Carl's not gonna do it.

Carl's not gonna do it. Carl's not gonna do it. Carl's not gonna do it. Carl's not gonna do it. Carl's not gonna react. He's not gonna do it. Carl's not gonna react. He's not gonna react.

He's not gonna react. He's not gonna react. He's not gonna react. He's not gonna react. He's not gonna react. He's not gonna react. He's not gonna react. He's not gonna me. He's a dental sales manager, but he is one yellow tooth. Yes, that's the one thing that like that's we know it's it. We had Katie, because oral on our podcast is one of the things that the first thing that she said on the podcast, you're saying it. Yeah, that's not good branding. If you're a dental sales manager, she's got to hit some numbers this year, and I'm afraid that's going to impact it. I would, yeah, seriously, strange. Yeah, I mean, at this mean at this point just get dangerous. Yeah, it's like buying a car from someone who rides a bike. What are some other general

Things that you've noticed about like give me one thing that really bugs you about Lindsay. Oh my goodness. I Really don't like how self-involved she is you know You know she has been battling with either Christina or Everett, Avra, all season. And Avra, and it's like my thought, I was brought there. And it drives me nuts, but like thank God that Lindsay's there because she's so relatable in terms of we all know Lindsay's,

Brad sort of gets you personally invested in the show. You know, it's like a way in. I actually like Lindsay. And I think if I was friends with her, the only thing I would want her to shut up about is being abandoned because I hate when people do that. And they're like, oh my God, my lunch is like, I was abandoned.

And this is like really affecting me because the sweater is ignoring me and it's how my mom felt. Like where's my refill of water? It's like, can we just eat lunch without you talking about being abandoned? How about you? I find them all annoying in some respects.

My favorite is Steven. There was last night's episode. There was a segment that I had to tape where he was talking about how much ever in Lindsay, like their breakup really was a big deal while swimming a glass of wine. So, I was really, really surprised by it, I was shocked by it.

And like, that is truly me. That's all of us. Like, you have a friend who complains about the ups and downs of the relationship non-stop and they inevitably get back together. So, I love Stephen for that. But Lindsay and Everett, we know people like that who just break up all the time

It's like I don't fucking care about your relationship anymore. It's like toxic people Stephen what I like about Stephen is that he's clearly trapped in this house He he applied for a totally different show and like well, we really like you but you're not gonna for that show So how about this show the summer house show you get to hang out in Montaul He's like okay, that sounds good and then he's like stuck with these like crazy people who are like really like alternately annoying and basic. And he just has to sit there and drink all summer long just to tolerate it. Lindsay and Everdax spoke to you last week and they are Lindsey claims that they're actually

paying for that house. Like really? I'm sure Bravo rented that house. There's no way you guys, who make probably make four marbles between you two, can afford that house. I'm not buying it. I mean, I could buy it because they do a lot of serious work.

You know, all that, like, walking around New York City on their phone, like, okay, the sales going through. Great, talk to you next week. Every episode, there's a montage of them, like, talking all, like, it's just fashion PR. I mean, it's like.

She does like pizza shop PR. She eats a shop, yeah. She's like, we're gonna sell this mojure to machine. Right. Like, yeah, I'm sure you're gonna get this big house. She has in montage. Last night she was talking about the stocking stuffers that was killing me because she was doing PR

for a little alcohol company. And they were, I guess they were talking about those little airline bottles. And they were, I guess they were talking about those little airline bottles. And she's like, for the, I think you're stocking sufferers. But I also think you could tell she wasn't even listening to them. She's like, right, right, right, where the fuck is that branch?

She's like as long as it's authentic to our brand. She's like, okay, like I said, stocking. It's Christmas. It's like, you know that's not for a year, right? She's like, so what do you guys think about outright? Remember she had 10 interns for one day? You really important intern that could not work from home. Like that would be a disgrace to the interns.

That was my favorite. I mean, Christina couldn't work in her room with her desk. She had to work in the living room that day. Because it was about the principal. See, I'm very connected with Christina. Like I feel, I feel like I am Christina. Like I am the one who was like, why didn't you ask me?

The fact that you didn't ask me, it pisses me off. And now I can't focus on my work here, because I'm like, just bubbling over with rage at you, then. She's very much into the rules, because the last night's episode, she was pissed that Carl was bringing to girls back, as she coogers as she called them. Yes, hookers.

Well, I don't think that she's really that into the rules. I think that she probably falls back on that. So that way she doesn't sound like she's slut shaming, which she was. But it was a hilarious slut shaming, so I have a support for it. I know. I mean, I think that I understood the slut shaming. I mean, the girl that Carl slept with who were just like booty shorts the entire time. Yeah, the mianj lips. Can we just talk about when she woke up in the morning?

Zah, Zah. Yeah. Wow, Zah. So you go back to bed, honey. Here, guggles. See you in the evening. Wow. Well, both of them were kind of road hard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kyle said, oh, and carries a lot older than me. I'm thinking how old is she? I think I think Christina's issue is that she made out with didn't she say in the beginning of the season that she made out with Kyle at one point Right And I she made out with somebody she's like oh is no big deal. Well nothing to Christina is no big deal

Right point and what we learn on Bravo and from housewise is these bitches will hold on to something for 10 years One slight they hold on to for years, and I don't think it's any accident that she's messing with Kyle Yes, this is the second week in a row, but to be fair All the women had their claws out when these two girls came in because they were not properly prepped and all of a sudden These two girls come in on they know that they're from LA They are a carless thing that they're hot. They're walking in like hot girls. They are all masculine girls where the claws are out.

Because Lindsay. Yeah, I'm playing tongue-line there. Oh, I'm fighting. I'm literally in tongue-line. So then Lindsay, I don't know if you saw that. Lindsay was, when Lindsay was like, I don't know you. Who are you? It's like, that's like a bitch way to say hi.

I wasn't just Christina, okay? And even like the workers twins, I forgot what they said. I wrote it down, but you know, they were also rather hostile. Like, was this car? Was this car? Well, Lindsay's not good at making people feel comfortable in general. It's her birthday party and she's there setting up. And there's all these hay bales.

She's like, I love the ring of party. So there's all these hay bales and she's like, well, I want people to sit on the hay bales. So she takes one up and then, when is it like this? I'm just gonna sit on that. You basically made a skateboard around. I'm an idiot. She had all those hair and makeup people come

to put her a bandana on her head. I'm so weird. They put her in her black face. What a dumb party. I thought she was about to go host the evening news. She had so much makeup on. It was just like a cake of makeup. I'm like, you're going to a hold down. This is not right. First of all, also, go host the evening news. She had so much makeup on it was just like a cake of makeup I'm like you're going to a hold down. This is not right first of all also it's the most appropriate

Why are they so mad that the host should up the hold down, you know why she's so upset about turning 30 that it was hilarious to me Well, it's all in the shitter now. I'm 30. I'm single You know, I'm shilling stocking stuffers. It's all over for me. My mom abandoned me. My boyfriend's sleeping with four other people when he says, sleep over. My roommate's Christina. He's goddamn twins living in the house in the better room that I have. And all the rosé has gone, by the way, why do they drink so much rosé? I do not know any man that drinks that much rosé. How many came in, do you know drink that all day long? I am partial to rosé. You just like, you guzzle rosé all day long. Well, no, I don't guzzle it all.

I kind of feel like there's certain things that they're trying to make a thing, right? Like a summer, like a summer house thing, like that's the thing. Like Kyle with his mullet wig, the first time it was like sort of amusing. Right, right, right. But now it's like week five is like,

oh, he's got a mullet wig. I'm like, you know, this joke is never great in the first place and we've all met, we've all seen a mullet wig. This is not an original thing. I think it's time to retire this wig. Yeah, Kyle's like so struggling to hold on to youth, which left a long time ago, but I think it's so cute.

And I would marry him because that's a dad. I mean, that's your dad, That's the guy who's like, for kids, I'm in my mullet. And they're like, oh my god, stop with the mullet dad. Yeah, it's so cute. Yeah, like when he gets so wasted, he'd be nice about it and never let you know. Like he won't leave text on his phone.

He just never know about it. Right. I'm sort of surprised that Kyle is not more central to some of the drama on the show. I thought he was going to be like the main male of the show and he sort of have angled him as like the guy of the house. Like everyone wants to be friends with Kyle. He's the leader. But really in terms of the main drama of the season, it's two things. It's Carl and Lauren or it's Lindsay and Everett and Christina. And Kyle is just sort of like comically fun to side. He has this

thing with Amanda that I don't personally care that much about that I'm very there Um, so I'm surprised that he's a little more periphery than than you think he would be considering he was such a big part of the crossover from I believe he's the one that started the show. He's the one responsible for one thing that I did not like is Oh, Carl reminds me of everybody from Pennsylvania. I don't want to see his very janky apartment. I don't want to hear him call his mother. I don't want to hear about his mom's divorce. I don't want to hear that his brothers in rehab

and that he has to pay for his mother's lifestyle. This isn't fun anymore. Yeah, I don't like when Carl humanizes himself. I don't care, go back to the house and sleep with some girls and have some drinks. But you know, this thing is with Carl. I mean, I have such mixed feelings on Carl because on one hand, I actually feel like

if I met him in real life, I'd be cool. And like, get along with him to perfectly find, he's like nice. But on the other hand, I really hate some of the really douchey things he does. Like when they went, they got shaves at like a shitting company. And he's like, now you're gonna be a real gentleman, Kyle.

I'm like, don't talk like that, Carl. You're really knowing right now. Like, yeah. You're a real gentleman of the need. And then you show up with those two ladies, those, ladies of the night. Ladies of the night, because they were ladies and it was nighttime. And then you make Lauren feel bad,

because Lauren pulls him over in her effort to not have a reaction. She pulls him over for a conversation, and then he's like, why are you acting like this? Why what's wrong with you? And Carl, you pulled a passive aggressive move. We all recognize it. So don't try to act like Lauren's the crazy one.

Well, he was also so defensive, like she wasn't being how he was accusing her of being I think he's just so used to doing that to girls that he was used to getting yelled at and he thought he was going to and she wasn't She was just like I don't care. It just don't like don't hurt my feelings on purpose It was like a spicer press conference. Yes You know, it's just like talking in circles like a spicer He's like well, from sweeteners. I hadn't been terrorized last night.

Do you think those are their real names, Sabrina and Carrie? Or do you think they gave all to her? I think they're real names. Really? Yeah. Reminding me of my friend Sean when he was dating a girl named Simone and I said, is she French and he said, no, she's just spoiled.

I feel like that's a Sabrina. Like, I don't know. Is she, is that a real name? And is she a witch? That's a good question. We know she and the girl that wants to be an act like she wants to be an actress. Very, very. There you are. First of all, I mean, the lips were out of control.

Out of control. And I lashes. I'm trying in general. I try, I believe it or not, I try not to make fun of how someone looks, but if they've done something, but if it's absurd, they've injected their lives, they've done it to herself. It's like putting, making fun of an outfit, you know, like you put those lips in. If your eyelashes look like you can break a pile of leaves,

you deserve this. That's a surprise. Yeah. When they do period pieces in the future about this time, it is going to be hilarious to see people's costumes because they're going to be huge eyelashes. I mean, those are ridiculous. And we see them them every day so they don't look as ridiculous. But eyelashes like this huge winged on the hair and the weaves down to the feet.

I can't take it. You know, the straw hair is going to be hilarious. Those are going to be good parties. I can't take it. And the funny thing is like with Sabrina, like Ronnie says, we see these people all the time here in LA. They were used to it and on certain TV shows, you see it all the time. But I think with Summer House, we got sort of used to their

Summer House look that when an LA person comes in with her big ass look, it's very jarring. It's disturbing. It's unfortunate. And they all talk. And just bugs me. And they say all talk. Yeah, actually, that girl, Kerry, didn't really bother me that much.

I thought she seemed pretty normal. But the Sabrina girl, I don't know. She was a little hungry. She was. She was. She was hungry and thirsty. Now, Ronnie, you also have a bachelor podcast. Yes, I do a bachelor podcast with Stephanie Wilder Taylor called Rose Pricks. So I want to hear what you think right about this current season. And last night's up. We just had an episode last night and I've been dying to know what you think. Well, the psychology of seeing these women with their families. I mean, Karin getting in bed with her dad and then her dad actually saying to Nick or to Karin, I talked to Nick and asked

him if he would be okay with just being the guy who stays home. Oh no, he told Nick, I talked to Corinne and I said, what, what are you going to be fine with just being she's a breadwinner and you're just going to sit there and be this stay at home dad and Nick's like, okay, what a way to just give your daughter away. It's like he knows that she, he knows that this guy is no good and doesn't care. He's like, just don't cheat, just don't let her know if you cheat on it. Has the mounted olives. So gross.

My world famous. I felt like Raquel, like whispered to him, you know, in a closet, please get me away from this. See you, baby. He saved me, take me with you. Someone on Twitter said, um, Raquel, blink two times if you beat him. Exactly. And why didn't we get a tour of the multi-million dollar business,

or is that multi-million dollar business? What are they living a one bedroom apartment? Down out of the second bedroom. Maybe it was in the corner of the bedroom where they had the father and no daughter talking. I think they're like, Mary Kay resellers. You know, and they're just like,

Mary Kay is huge. Why doesn't they? They read you floors and garages. That's what they do. But it doesn't seem like it makes enough money to buy, you know, faux leather pant outfits for your boyfriend. You've been dating for two weeks. Well, that MX was gray.

That was not a black MX. So that is also a fail because I think she's trying to trick everybody into thinking she's rich so she can bag this guy because she doesn't have any self confidence, but then she's going to bag him and be broke. And that's just like the saddest ending, you know, with lots of olives. He didn't even know how to eat in all of this Nick. What do you think is Nick?

He was like chewing on the end of it. I think that's the best out of them. Is Nick legit or do you think Nick is just a douchebag? What do you think? I think he's drunk. basically 75% of the time. I think he has no interest in any of these girls at the age. They're all ugly, they're boring.

I'm fucked. I'm gonna just gonna ride this out. I'm gonna kind of get engaged to a girl for a little while. I'll somehow spin it, Sean Spicer style, so that she breaks it off with me. But I get the magazine covers I want, and then I can maybe get a role in an independent film. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah Yeah, there's something really weird about Nick and at the very end when they show next week and he's always crying too

Which is also another sign of Adderall addiction Yes, when people are taking too much Adderall they have very quick and I know because I used to take it okay Get off my ass You are very quick to rage and any kind of emotion. So a lot of people who are always crying are generally on a lot of aterol. And so I'm thinking that's his issue. It's also probably how he got abs.

How many of the contestants are on aterol? It's so hard to tell with these girls. I thought most of these girls were fairly normal, didn't you? Yeah, that wasn't bad. I mean, I even like Corinne now., I feel like Karen is a broken little hoe. I want to take her in and just brush her hair and be like, read something, get a hobby. You know, there are people who like other things in your,

I mean, your daughter's here, but you're a wound entrance. She, I think that she's just like a 23 year old kid right out of school and she'll look back eight years ago. Wow, that was pretty embarrassing slash hilarious. So I mean if you choose this for her though, I just feel like now I don't want to show religiously but I happened to watch last night and I watched like two weeks ago. I mean it seems like it seems so like beyond like more vapid than usual like like immature leave that It sure sure like it like I don't see how we could even have a conversation with her, you know Yeah, I mean he's no, I mean he's not great himself. I mean he's very very very boring. I mean he's like cardboard

You know, he's not as bad as Ben Higgins, but he's pretty bad. Yeah, I mean he's shockingly bad I mean on bachelor's Why are guys you really did just lay there on a couch. And he didn't say anything to mean, so people liked him again. Right. But yeah, he's really shockingly boring when he was on that date with that nurse who's Daniel with a bad name. Oh, a mousey nurse we call her. She's saying, I really like being your neck.

He's like me too. And they're just kind of looking around. He's like, well, she's not going to say anything. Yeah. And I'm not going to say anything. So, bye. Melissa, what do you say, son? Melissa, who was on the Jason Mesnick season, I interviewed her. And she said that during the season, you don't have no, you're not really allowed to have real conversations. It all has to be surface because you know, it's too awkward unless it's you have to keep

it. So she has no, she had no idea really what he did for a living. And they didn't, she said, all we talked about were like funny stories that we had from like college or growing up. So none of these people are having real conversation. So every conversation, like with Vanessa, is like, so what do you like to do? That's why her parents were shocked

that she had not had a discussion with them yet about, well where do you plan on living if we get engaged? Oh, Vanessa, yeah. They're not allowed to talk about anything of depth on camera. But wasn't that disturbing that Vanessa seen? What do you think her deal is? Because her family was acting like she's put herself

on the train tracks. She's like, right, the drowler. Like that. One of those girls who tried to drown herself on the bathtub and you're like, was that the girl from Quebec? Yeah, no my my take away from that because I thought it was crazy. They were like, no, don't bring her heart again. I was like, no, they're like, no, we're something. But you know what I think? So I have this theory because her parents are divorced.

I feel like my theory is that her mom was shattered by that divorce and became this mother who put this Who said I can't think of the right word set the tone the family which is that like don't let someone break your heart Like your heart could be broken so easily your life can be ruined be careful a lot of you know And so now they're all like traumatized like even that like kid who's going through puberty that Seth Green kid He's like no no break Wait a minute. Can we just wait we need to talk about that for a minute? Well half this cast was fucking their family We know that like half the girls laugh on with her brother creepy, right?

I felt like I was watching the dark crystal. I don't know Went into a closet dark I don't know why I went into a closet. The dirt cricketer. I cried. He scared me. What is wrong with her brother? She's puberty, man. Is he young?

Is that what you mean? Why couldn't she? I couldn't tell if he was 12 or 24. They were problems. They looked so much alike. Yeah. I know. It was very condescative.

She, if you hurt you again now. It's like, how many half of you have accents and half of you don't? Yeah, I don't understand that. Also, I don't understand why she really doesn't have an accent. The rest of her family has a weird Italian, a Kippa Kwa's accent. That girl's broke down. I hope he doesn't go for that.

There's something going on. She's not. And then I didn't like the way she was talking to her students. Like, remember that scrapbook that you guys put together, wink wink, like, I'm sure those kids put together scrapbook or kids or adults. I mean, come on. Yeah, I got a very strange vibe. And why are people like crying? She came back and I'm like, what are you? Like, she's brain

washing these people. Yeah, maybe there's like too many like really ugly, tiny love seats in her life between what was it in that like side room and at her mom's house. I know. Like this, like, orange brown room with like a pale green, you know, will love to see. And they don't have to sit there. But then she went to her dad's house and then Nick has like sitting there like, woo, woo, like trying to get like,

this is her dad's like, he's like, dick. He seemed like he was awful. Well, try to imagine being married to him. I mean, I feel like the stopmother was like, when he and Adder like, don't leave me. Well, they had this weird obsession where they were like, well, you know, he is still

dating three other women. I can't. And then the mom's like, oh, three other women. You guys know that this is a TV show. Yeah, like, what do you think he signed up for bitch? But I do, but actually, I do salute the dad for when Nick said, if in the event, if perhaps in the future, if at the juncture, sometime in the future possibly, I could think about maybe marrying your daughter, would you support it?

And he's like, okay, hold on. Let's slow down that one. And by the way, didn't you say this is three other dads? Well, yeah, if you're going to get technical. So I do salute him because that was pretty funny. I don't think any other father has done that thus far. I, I, I, I salute him for not making an if you ask me to slain Dion, pun at that moment. Straight battle. Straight battle. I gotta tell you guys the brother is still I'm still haunted by it. I'm haunted by all of it. I

was bothered that the father asked those questions but then let him off so easy. The whole thing bothers me because Nick does, okay, look at Vanessa's parents. They kept saying, what are you going to do for Vanessa? Where are you going to move here for Vanessa? Vanessa has a life now. No one said, do you have a damn job? That's a good call. Is that a wig?

Do you have plugs? What's going on with your teeth? Why are you talking like Carol Channing? Do you need money to get those shaved down? Are you getting free dentistry from that hoe? You know you're going to be banging after this. That dentist assistant from Russia. Right. Like what's going on with you, dude?

By the way, he knew from the get-go he could never be with Raven because I'm not confident there are any salons nearby that could do like a straightening process on his hair. I mean, there would he could not have lived there. Also, they're poor. I mean, I think Nick is looking for somebody with bank. It's going to be, I mean, it's probably going to be Camille, which is horrifying thought, but at least that would be honest if he ended up with Camille. Like just some great, I always call her Camille. I'm sorry, but um, yeah, Corinne, I think that would be fitting. They're both kind of like shallow and she's way younger than him and semi-rich.

Yeah. Or it's going to be, it's not not gonna be Vanessa because she don't got a good job. And then we know that the lawyer is gonna be the bachelor's. And how uncomfortable did he look in that black shirt? At one point you saw there was one guy who was really into it. And Nick is just trying to be cool because he's looking at the guy like, what am I supposed to do? Nick trying the clap on the black beat was the funniest thing I've ever seen. I mean, he was wider than summer house.

Yeah. As my boyfriend says, he was on the one and the three. Is it the two and the four? Right. Yeah. Apparently, like, we white people like to do one and three, but it's really two and four. Yeah. And it's like really ingrained in DNA.

And the mother said, have you ever dated a black one? Well, we went on dates. I wouldn't say we were like together. It's like, you sound so stupid. So I've owned a few. He's like, I mean, I can't. I watched right out of Compton. Is that kind of the date?

It was just so fast. It was so fast. What do you guys think about the end when Andy came back? Thoughts about that. I don't know who Andy is. So I was excited that there was another face. I don't think you're missing anything.

I would like to see. I was excited there's another face. I would like to see what the hell she has to say. She's probably just gonna be plucking a book, right? I think so. Was she on earlier this season? No, she was the bachelor read. He was a finalist.

She wrote a book that I read, which was very poorly read or written. It was, she apparently is a lawyer and I'm doubting that. But one of the things that she wrote in it was that he was a finalist. It was between Nick and the guy that she got engaged to who now sells weight loss supplements. Okay. She was creeped out because in the fantasy suite they had sex, which he later admitted to on air. That was her thing, yeah. But the thing was she, which I, okay, I didn't get this one and Heather tells me I'm obsessed with this, but let me know what you guys think.

She said that when they were having sex, that she was creeped out because he looked at her and he said, do you want me to make love to you or do you want me to fuck you? And she said she was creeped out by it and that's why she got rid of all. Well, she can never be a game, man. I like that is crew. I would be like, we're engaged. We're engaged. Okay, guys are like, okay, what do you like? We're like a checklist to go on down.

They're like, what do you like? Do you like this? Do you like that? It's so sexy. I mean, why did you get rid of him? So yeah, she wrote about that in a book. She's gonna part about it. Well, if he was really cheesy about it,

it would have been a made of turn off. Like, is it snick? If Nick was like, do you want to get the, it's just like, that's all I see what you're saying. It's like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, there's certain people who can do that. You're like, yes. But there's some people, you do that, you're like,

oh, this is not, you think, yeah. Especially when you get a shame at times. Yeah that you're like, oh, right? This is not. You think, yeah, especially when you get a shame, you get a shame. You're like, yeah, you're like, oh, am I doing this right now? Especially when he talks like this. He's like, what do you want me to make love to you? She's crying. Do you want to get fucked? And tears coming down.

Oh, that's true. Yeah, you're right. That was his pre-crang days. Now, this is the new neck that's stopping all the time and has feelings. He cried in every scene last night. He was like, like, Jameh hurts my sister and he's like, never.

That sister, what are you doing? Do you have a job? What are you gonna do with her? Where are you going to live? What kind of street you like? Do you like coldest acts? What do you like for a mailbox? One at the door, one at the house.

I'm like, jeez lady. It is funny how all these people are so protective of their sibling or their sister. But if it were my family, my sister would be like, I don't know. Is she that great? I don't know. Really? I don't have to be with her. Because it's like only broken souls go on these shows. So they already know they're like, listen, she's like one, you know, one slight heartbreak away from going to the loony band.

So please, we don't want to have to think of that. I think Ronnie of a great point. I didn't think about it. You brought it up and now I'm with you. Something is a ride with that girl and there. That's why they kept saying. I think that you're coming. These do not break it off.

I think it's actually a combination of both of our things. I think that she went through a massive heartbreak that was like, and she was like crazy and drained during that time. But I think that some of her craziness was fueled, but I believe the mother. Oh great point. Oh great point. Oh great point.

Oh, no offense moms. Oh wow, yeah. I think that she was shattered. And she has like spread this thing to her kids to like, you know, be like, I don't know if it's like man hating, but it's, you know, like, I think it's the man need.

You have to put up a wall. If it were not for your father, I would have an enjoyable life, but that son of a bitch is now remarried and you're gonna go and have things give you with him. Yeah, so I think the dad cheated. So it was on you. The dad obviously cheated

because everything that's happened, Vina said, oh, we need to have a talk. Now, here's what we need to talk about. The way that you looked at me like that, like I thought we were close and then we weren't close anymore. So like, what's going on? But we need to have a talk and he'd be like well She's like oh, thank you and then they make out and they cry I'm like that nothing happened right now, but she's mad at everything that happens, you know

Right and so it ended with her like oh no my family said these things and I don't have answers We need to have a talk for you can't now bitch the car's going and I'm not buying that all those people come over every Sunday for lasagna dinner Please, please, it's nice to cook for them that mother looks exhausted. She's not doing that. Yeah No, no with a white tablecloth. Come on. Yeah, they barely fit in there I mean, it's not it's just not a Sunday dinner sort of place and I hate how they walk in the door and all the relatives are like Oh my god, you're home. My family would have been like oh, hi Well, we my God. We gotta go, some worse.

Are you guys gonna be out of your brain hour? A half from now? My mom probably would have been excited. My mom and dad probably would come running for it, but you know, Jewish, so. Oh, that's why, yeah. Because Jewish families, they really care about you. Yeah.

I'm from a Protestant family, so they're like, when are you leaving? When's they've been in Tonic? Yeah, right. Like we have shit to do. Can you get out? I know, I come in and my mom's mom's like oh so I guess it's my fault Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I think that he's actually gonna wind up with Vanessa

I felt like they had the most chemistry as far as I could tell this is gonna be the saddest romance and bachelor history It's gonna show either I think that'll be the first murder suicide So what do you think about what do I think that'll be the first murder suicide in that story. So what do you think about what do you think about Rachel being the batch? She thinks supremely boring. I'm not interested. But isn't that kind of the point? Like aren't they supposed to be boring?

I just started last year. So I've studied this a lot, but only in this past year. So I saw Joe Joe. Joe Joe. I feel like bone or ball. I saw Joe Joe and she was supremely boring. So Nick is supremely boring. So that's not what they're supposed to be. She needs to be a little bit nutty to make it interesting. So let me ask you, do you, you're into Southern charm, obviously. Sure. Yeah. Talk about some Southern charm. Did you watch a preview?

Yeah. I watched the preview and I'm really excited It looks like we're finally gonna get to the bottom of what's going on with Catherine I I have not been buying that she's this earth mother. I think there's something really dark mother Something beneath it. I want to get to the bottom of it. No, she's no where mother. She just poor. Yeah She's this earth is rock. I'm glad they're finally addressing the issue. Yeah, well he's been tricking her for a while because the last reunion, I think it was the last one.

Well, one of the reunions, the rumor was that he tricked her into taking a drug test. Like he got one ordered and then did drugs with her the night before and she didn't know it was coming today Like he gave her coke or whatever so he is was he doing it with her? Yeah He's a big coke had he was selling it in office, but he didn't okay But she was the only one getting the test I think yeah, there's there's also all sorts of trickiness

I think the trailer looks great. I'm very excited for it. I'm excited to see this new person is And I think what's interesting is there was a moment where Cameron's talking to Catherine and saying, how she thinks of landing a whole different light now. I'm like, okay, so Cameron saw that everyone turned on land and no one likes landed anymore. So Cameron's gonna go to team Catherine now. I suspect because she sees that's where,

there's not that, I mean, people think that Catherine is a train wreck, but they sort of like her in her train wreckness. Whereas right now everyone hates land. And so cameras can be switching sides, I think. Well, this week I talked to Craig. Okay. And this is what he told me. He said, land in and shut sometimes say things on camera that he'd shock him.

He's, I mean, he has said that there were points where he'd pulled them aside, said, I cannot believe you just said that on camera. So that's pretty juicy. He said that he thought that most likely land in Thomas had sex. He said that he gets in a lot of trouble five episodes in with Naomi his girlfriend and he basically want to move out of the country. He looks really, really bad. Wow.

Cameron. I'm going to find some other rich, I'm going to take care of you. Cameron's finally coming around to having a baby. And then there's a new guy named Austin and he and she'll sort of fight over her girl. Yeah. Looks like a Chelsea, right? But that was a girl that he kind of slut-shamed last season, right? Isn't that what it was?

It could be, it might be. Remember he had that incident last season where shepp said something about, like he just made a sound like she was just like a hoe. And then he went, like, out on social media and was like, I feel, it's like I'm really sorry. She's not like that at all. And he did a whole, like, all the choreographies.

Oh, because he said, oh, he didn't say she was a hoe. He said that he banged her or something. He's like, yeah, we went out once and I banged her or something. But he made it sound like like he banged her because it was just so easy and like, that's what you do with Chelsea or whatever. But that's right.

I mean, he is gross. Chef is gross. Landon is the one that I find hilarious because everyone hates Landon. Yeah, I don't, on the internet, I don't either. I find hilarious because everyone hates Lantin. I don't hate her. On the internet, I don't hate her. I don't hate her. I can see.

I don't hate her. I just find her annoying. I can see the underlying biturine in her. Like, when it's come out, I'm like, oh, that's in there, then I can see it. I actually like her biturine. Yeah, I don't mind it because she usually airs on the right side normally. She's fighting against Catherine. Everything she said about Catherine is true.

I still like Catherine better. But well, Catherine is just like a tragic Tennessee Williams character and Landon, the thing is that her biturary comes out usually in a puff of giggles. She's like, I'm sorry, you think you're so fucked up? And you're like, what a bitch. She's like, I'm sorry, you think you're so fucked up? And you're like, what a bitch, you know? But I like that. I like that land in is just so exasperated by Catherine.

And she's just like, you know, I don't want to invite this bitch around because she's always drama. And then she doesn't invite her around. And then land in looks like the asshole. So I sort of understand where she's coming from. She's a bitch, but I like it. I like, I like so much.

She seems like a little bit of a lost soul though. Oh, very much. I'll just run into a pile of money and then I'll make my dreams happen. Rich girl. Yeah. I find her a little bit of knowing that way. I did enjoy her her paper her like paper and pencil presentation for what her blog would look like. I was like Oh my gosh. You can do a mock up, Landon, it's okay. I know. I'm glad that they're bringing Patricia back, even without Whitney. Yeah, because I was worried about that. Yeah, but she's like, welcome there, the socket.

Whitney's not on it. He's no longer a cast member. I wonder what he would be pretty. That's about. Well, yeah, I think he packaged the show and everything and sold it, so. He was barely on last season. Um, you know, Craig said he definitely had sex with Catherine.

I believe 100%. I don't think there was ever any of the any. Oh, oh, actually, no, no, no, no. I mean, we all knew that. The Whitney first time we saw our Whitney and Whitney Catherine because members, she came to that party and they were like, wait a second. That girl was just with Whitney. And then of course, he says, oh, have sex with her. But of course he did. But I believe that he also wanted to have something with her because he was really awesome beyond.

For shallow reasons, such as a good name. I thought he was gay. So I thought to you, well, I think it's like rich Southern gay where it's like gay, but gay in the sex way, but not in that, you know, you still want to like have your bloodline Well, the plantation go even though they're not really southern are they Patricia and which aren't even real they're just faking it Like right It's like making it all up. He's like has an accent and a this and that but I don't even think they're southern and his stepsister Not Patricia a serenalchal from TV news, right? Oh, of course.

The famous Alchol family. But I think, so here's my third and why Whitney is not coming back. First of all, he always seems to look like a jackass every season. Second of all, he's like a hipster. You mean, he's like, you know, 67, but he's still like something.

He's like a young hipster, he's wearing his jumbo clout and jumbo's clown room hat and everything. Yeah. And now he's like very LA. And I think that he's, I feel like he probably does not want to be a reality star. I think that he, that now he's like, now that he's gotten some sort of fame,

he wants to be like seen as cool. You know, I got my house in the hills, a beautiful house in the hills, by the way. But I think he's into bigger celebrity. Let's get tried. Or is it possibly his new storyline because the woman that's been pretending to be his fiance doesn't want to do a bigger celebrity. It's gonna try to. Or is it possibly is no storyline because the woman that's been pretending to be as fiance doesn't want to do the show anymore?

She wants to go back to Bavaria or wherever she's from. There could be that too. And honestly, I think that's some of this shift from last season to hit two close for home. Right. Yeah, he didn't like his dirty laundry. He didn't like that. Even though we had already seen it,

it hadn't been talked about to that extent. I think he was just mortified. Yeah, I think, you know, Catherine's crazy, but I think when she was saying that Whitney, like after they had sex or whatever, that Whitney wants to have like a whole relationship, wants her to move in and she was like, now thanks, that he was really hurt, which is why he was so vicious to her. And she just put it all out there. And I think he was uncomfortable with that. Well, we saw it in the show when they showed the clips of that time happening, which they had saved those clips. Right.

He was like, nothing happened. And then you see Patricia coming into the room, who shoes are they? He's like, oh, this is that girl Catherine. She's like, oh, what a lovely girl from a good family name and all this stuff. But interesting because he's executive producer. So it all played out kind of.

Yeah, I think they let him, he let them shoot it because he wanted he was gonna Get that girl is the name cool like he's like you got the hot girl that I'm on his into but you know He has the worst poker face when they were confronting remember they were up in my My come on without the Bot talks? Oh my goodness. I mean, my goodness. How can you not have a poker face when your whole face is dead? Like, it doesn't even matter. Right.

Craig said that in that trip, he got to the point where they kept bringing Catherine up that he felt like he had to address it on camera. Like, you don't want anyone to talk about what happened with Catherine. You're correct. He said that about Whitney. Oh, Craig, girl, please. You don't want anybody to talk about Catherine, but then you keep bringing her up. So I did that because he's like a housewife. And he's going to get revenge.

Yes, yes, yes, he's going to get revenge on them for what they did to him with his whole drunk. He's like acting so shocked that he's drunk. And I wouldn't be surprised if he's the ringleader this year of this whole step is drunk. Yeah. Because Craig is like a very immature, you are kind of a person. No offense offense Craig love you. He did say that Chef is out to get him out to get him. Yeah. So instead of finding something new, he's going to be like, you are, you're the one cheating and you're an alcoholic. See how you like it. That's what we have to expect this. Yeah. Someone messaged us and said, and I don't know the veracity of this at all, but this is what they messaged us and said. and I don't know the veracity of this at all, but this is what they messaged us and said

She said that her daughter hooked up with a chef and then he has a small penis. I'm like, okay This is interesting details and share between mother and daughter Wow And that chef is trying to like quote unquote settle down for like a like a spin-off show bachelor style like a worship Well, I was tuning. That would be good. I would tune in first He seems like he's funny. I love Shep. I would like him to be a bachelor.

I love Shep. I think that Shep is actually very smart and I think that he is very charming and nice. He can be like, I'm not awful. We have a one bachelor in paradise. That would be fun. It's not that he's nice. I'm sorry. It's not that he's nice.

But I don't think he's like an asshole in a way that I like my TV assholes. Because I think he's charming. He's charming. He's basically honest about how he is an asshole. Yeah, and he's just like, yeah, I'm rich. I live off of it. And I'm just having fun. And you know, that's just the way it is.

He's the cloonie of the Bravo network. Yeah. Right. So out of all the housewives, which is your favorite? To write about in my recaps, I love. of the Bravo network. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So out of all the housewives, which is your favorite? To write about in my recaps, I love Orange County because I live in Orange County and I feel like they're the easiest to make fun of. I appreciate New York because I'm from back east and they speak to me.

Right. Dallas is fun to make fun of. Beverly Hills is fun. Atlanta, I feel like my voice isn't there. I don't know if I could recap it as well. And I do think that they're so over the top. Like they're almost they're too smart. The Atlanta girls. Yeah. Like they're they're so smart that they're in on the jokes all the time. So it's hard to recap because the Orange County girls. I just how we are to with them. I'm a we'd like to recap them, but they're so hilarious on their own. I mean, they're by far to me. They're

they're my favorites, just because they're so hilarious consistently. But it is sometimes probably the hardest one to talk about, just because they're already hilarious. It's like, did you watch, you know, that sitcom? Well, I always feel like nothing real is actually happening on Atlanta in terms of not that everything stage But I I find very often a lot of the storylines don't have don't really speak to anything that's relatable Like when you have Fadera and Kenya fighting over a donkey booty DVD versus Italian booty DVD It's like it's to me. It's it feels like something that's been sort of like whipped up for for TV

Yeah, this season's been really good this but it's been really good because it's been the fights have been so hilariously over the top I mean the fact that two nights ago Porsche and candy are fighting over Who like wanted to eat out who's vagina more of the two of them? And so it's over the top. It's over the top. You can't believe that we are watching. But the truth is, it's hard to track the story of this season. I feel like really good seasons of Orange County or New York City. There's a big through line that happened. And I think with the land, it's just these flare ups.

It's choppy. It is choppy. It's like these flare ups. And if you have a lull in the flare ups Then the season will just start to sink, but then it gets fun again, and so it's just it's a me It's more just entertaining in the sense of what are the women saying this week if they're saying something funny It's gonna be a good show, but the through lines are not very strong for me ever. Mm-hmm. I agree

I agree. What do you think about the the casting news for Orange County? So Heather's not coming back. Yeah agree. What do you think about the casting news for Orange County? So Heather's not coming back. Yeah. Yeah. How do you feel about that? Tamara is. And the rumors are that Lydia's coming back. Lydia is back. And that Adrienne is coming back. No, that's not true.

And that Megan's coming. Yes, not true. I have all the scoop. I'm going to tell you. Well, Megan's coming back. She's not coming back. The new housewives are Lydia. She's come back snore, boring. I just follow sleep.

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You know when she won me over when she had the other couple to talk about charities or like a prayer meeting, but she obviously didn't know what she was doing. I can't. All of it. I like I just I think I just like her because she stood up to slay it over that burger comment and I was like, you know what? I like Lydia. Right. At the end of the, but. The new housewife's name is Peggy Suleja, I believe. She, this is all true. She's like off the grid. You can find her on Instagram because she sells Rodan in fields.

I'm not making this up. This is true. She lives in Newport coast. Her husband owns some business where he sells like jazzed up wheels. So he does like, car wheels, rims for like rappers and stuff. Oh my God. There are a median. Okay. They have two kids, I believe. And, uh, yeah. So she's the new one. So crazy. I'm a man. Oh, my friend, who appeared, my friend, Jackie, who appeared in the episode last season at the disco party. Um, she was amazing. Jackie and Nina. Right. So Jackie told me, um,

go party. She was amazing. Jackie and Nina. Right. So Jackie told me that Peggy is a real Spitfire. Oh wow. So it could be good. But I think Lydia was a terrible decision to bring her back. Well, they always need one boring. Well, they need someone to balance out to Kelly Dodd, right? Lydia is going to be promoting her magazine the entire season, her her her husband's last magazine. So it's a new one called like, man, I don't forget what it's called, but it's like, oh for men, men, how to be a luxurious man. Do we have any insight on to why Heather DeBro left? She was asked to be a friend of. She was asked to be if they wanted to demolish her.

I think there's enough of a storyline in her life so they were demoting her to friend of and she just said, nah, it's not worth it. Wow, you know, it's so annoying because I wanted to see her giant house I think what she'll probably do is like give it to like an architectural digest or something Well obviously they won't be giving me a to Lydia's magazine after what happened last time no they will not I think they'll show Heather's house Like she'll still come on. Don't you think so oh really? I think she's done But Terry will make it kind of stupid because she's never got that skin care to chill on

I'm surprised I'm actually surprised that they asked her to be a friend up because I just feel like Heather to bro is enough of a Figure on that show at this point that like you know You know like her head or she plays a certain role, you know, you think that but then I feel like they can get rid of anybody I think everybody can be replaceable I mean if they all get to Man, I mean and Shiree at one point then anyone I think that Heather's one of I don't think she's like a Luana Shiree I think she's an awful human being but More than that she's an awful human being to the

Production like whenever they show the backstage stuff or when they show her threatening to walk off and she's like, I will not leave this. You hear me. Clowns, Clowns. Yeah. That's where she talks down. And Jeff Lewis was when she got in that Twitter war with Jeff Lewis, it was about her being mean to waiters and just being evil and just being one of those people. If you've ever waited tables, we all know that one. I agree with you.

Yeah. We all know all know. I think that's probably why she's not big. If she didn't have a story, but they liked her, I think they would have found a reason to keep her around. But if she doesn't have much, a story, and she's difficult to work with. Vicki's downright abusive. And they said that and that unsensored thing. They're like, Vicki, everyone was terrified of her because she is like abusive to those. I think why they're going toicki ever was terrified of her because she is like abusive to the group I bet you she's gonna get this guy to propose to her and then they'll have some stupid wedding and that'll be like the seasons like and me Yeah, I think she'll probably marry this weird guy that she's dating. Yeah, she's so she's still with him

I mean, I don't think they could ever get rid of Vicki as I mean as demanding as crazy She is there's her in housewives that I think reach a tear that like, you know, I think you just have to keep Vicki. She's the OG from the OC, that annoying thing, but it's true. But at some point it's grandma, the real grandmother's of Orange County. Yeah, but you know what though Vicki, you know what though Vicki always brings it though. Vicki brings in ways that a lot of other housewives and a lot of other franchises don't do, you know. She does, she brings crazy and you never know when she's going to go nuts.

She's going to do it one or two times a season, if not three or four. And you live for those moments, whether you are hating Vicki, those moments when she starts screaming with her bug eyes. I guess. I'll only be excited if they bring more of Michael back on and he can talk shit about his mom. I like those moments. Oh yeah, he's just so over her.

Yeah, he's in the board with her. And I like that he gives a good. I'm not lying, it asked him about, it was mom in the election and he had sent something on Facebook like, oh, my mom's an idiot. She doesn't read anything, she doesn't know anything. So I think it's funny how he just, you know, she's such, she's so confident.

And then he just cuts her down. I think that's hilarious. I love that he always blows her. Yeah. Her kids always blow her game too. Always. Because she's always telling them what to lie about. And they won't do it. They won't do it.

They know I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that.

I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. She brings it up on camera anyway and Vicky's like no, no, we're not doing this right now. We are not doing this right now Vienna No, Vienna and then she runs inside and like tries to stop it but they're miked I love it too. Oh, yeah, I call her the patron saint of Orange County, Brianna because she does keep it real Yeah, really? Saint of Orange County. I mean, I think the thing with Heather to bro

One of the reasons why I'm a little unsettled by her leaving is that the Cassis had such good chemistry for like three seasons in a row. It's, you know, a lot of times with the real housewives, you'll have like one or two good seasons in a row than a bad one, but it's been three awesome seasons from the season when Shannon first showed up, when it was Shannon versus Tamara, then it was, then it was Shannon, then it was like the whole Shannon versus Brooke, not, it was Shannon. Then it was like this the whole Shannon versus Brooke. Not that was Shannon and Megan Kenan men's and Brooks thing. And in this season with Kelly Dodd. So I feel like when the chemistry is really good, you don't want to like,

you try to keep it as strong as possible. You want to keep it going, you know, so I always get worried when they take someone out. Well, they can't have it where they gang gang up like that. Because when it's Shannon and Heather and Tamra, and Tamra's obviously manipulating it all against Vicki the whole time, which they always do to each other. But when they're so steadfast and on the same team and working that under, you know, underhandedly

with each other, they can't have a show like that. Like if you have all the women trying to make Kelly look like a drunk and stuff like that, they all look like idiots because we saw what they were doing. But it also just makes it less interesting to watch. And Heather's too fake. I mean, I think Tamara is an awful human being, but she's hilarious and she's not predictable. Right. Heather's just very predictable.

It's like, yeah. Have you guys been following me about your pizza oven, Heather? Yeah. Have you guys been following any of this stuff coming out about Lynn Curtain's kids? It's a crazy saga. It's like very so depressing. I saw her one time at my friend, my friend Amber's spa. Shape up so on. And yeah, she's just seems, she seemed in person as you would assume, like scatterbrained. Yeah.

So I feel like her entire life is like, wait, what? Who, what, huh, what happened? Yeah. Well, we always knew like when her marriage fell apart on TV, that these kids were already kind of out of control. But when that marriage fell apart, we knew these kids were going to go down a bad path. And now it's just like, and they followed through. They spiraled. I mean, kids were going to go down a bad path. And now it's just like-

And they followed through. They spiraled. I mean, maybe we knew that we were gonna go down a bad path, but we didn't know that we're just gonna go down. Yeah, I mean- I can see it like a stockter fill episode in the near future. Yeah, I think they actually need one.

Well, first of all, I mean, so Alexa, I mean, there's a lot of murky stuff that like, I can't even almost like have an opinion on without I feel like you know like it you what can you do it's dark it's dark because she's alleging that she was raped by a police officer And then ever since then she's been Extra spiraling and then she's been what stealing from her grandmother or something like that. I think she what yeah It's too we don't it's like yeah She's like, it's like, it's like him or her, like, she's an important addicted to shit,

claiming stuff, stealing from grandma, I mean, none of that. Yeah, stealing from grandma, it's really a none of that. And it probably didn't start with the eviction on camera, I probably proceeded that way. I think so. I think it definitely proceeded that,

but it was almost, but once that eviction happened and that that marriage fell apart, you just knew this was just gonna accelerate quickly. Yeah, girl. Yeah. Well, this has been so much fun. It's been great. I loved it. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. So good talking to you. Sit on the couch every day. What a fun cross. What a fun crossover episode. crossover make a theme song for the crossover. So tell everybody where they can find you guys. We are watch what crap ends. You can find us on Twitter at what crap ends on Instagram watch what crap ends and on Facebook watch what crap ends. How about you? You can find me on Instagram at KKCCA. I make a lot of celebrity

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Just repeating it's for a video. I posted it and then when I posted it randomly walking on broken glass came on to my tunes and Watching Stasi just sort of like tap strippers as well. Annie Lennox played worked in a strange way, right? I liked it That sounds glorious. I felt like that with her Annie Lennox's feelings, but I like she would any let it She needs to improve Unless unless her saw unless she was like writing a song for the strippers point of view. Right. She would like the pain of the torture. So thank you so much for having us on. Thank you for being on our show too.

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We kind of missed some summer house stuff. And so Ryan and I want to kind of circle back and mention some of our other favorite moments from the episode. Because this episode of Summer House was so, so fun. It was so good. Normally we could just say, okay, well next week we'll get back to Summer House was so, so funny. It was so good. Normally, we could just say, okay, well next week, we'll get back to Summer House and do a full recap. But this episode was just beautiful.

I mean, this show has come into its own. These people are already forgetting the cameras are there. Yeah. And it's cracking me up. Yeah, I'm laughing a lot every episode. It's kind of one of the highlights of my week is watching Summer House. I'm laughing a lot every episode. It's kind of one of the highlights of my week is watching Summer House. I'm not even gonna lie.

There's something about a show in its first season that's kind of like hitting its stride that can be really exhilarating. And shouldn't be. I mean, that's, you know, it shouldn't be. Like this show should not work. It shouldn't work. The people are too old, they too white.

They kind of, like if I was a casting person, I'd be like, no, why? Why? Why? Like some Margarita PR girl? Like a PR girl for a Margarita machine and a pizza place? Why?

But it just works so good. It works so well. I'm talking like Toria, we just, we're talking about actual things. It's funny. My boyfriend just texted me saying that there's some sort of WASP infestation in his apartment. I was like, oh, you must be watching Summer House

Well, there's a wasp infestation on our podcast as well right now And winky dink So I mean I have to say Carl Carl Carl Carl. He I mean he really does drive me nuts We talked a little bit about that. How about how like he seems like you'd be a nice guy But he's so slick it can drive me nuts. We talked a little bit about that, how he seems like he'd be a nice guy, but he's so slick, it can drive me nuts. At the top of this episode, he mentioned, he started talking about the summer house and saying, you know, moving into a summer house, I always look for the hottest girl. Like, shut up, Carl. Shut up. Stop doing that. And

then on top of that, he starts saying that lorns the real deal. He's like, yeah, I want a respecter and get to know her because she's the real deal. I'm like, don't you, like no, you've moved on. She called you on your shit. She caught you taking someone else to the wedding and she exposed herself as a stage five clinger and that made her less attracted to you. And rather than just admitting that,

you're just trying to guss you up in this foe of chivalry, of she's just too good. I wanna respect her bullshit, Carl. Yeah, speaking of veneers, get some. Yeah, it's bad. Yeah, he was like, I really, she's a real deal. She's not just some ho. So I wanna show her respect. By bringing a couple girls home and trying to start a gang bang. Yeah, he was like, I really, she's a real deal. She's not just some ho. So I want to show her respect.

But I'm bringing a couple girls home and trying to start a gangbang. Yeah, exactly. A real respectful pass arrest of Hodum. Yeah, by the way, it's bad news when every guest we've had on to talk about Summer House has mentioned your yellow teeth carl. It's not just us being shady. Okay, everyone can see it. This is the HD generation. But everyone sees something different. Have you noticed that like Katie said there's two like dots like nicotine dots

Well, I think it's one of Katie's funniest lines of all time Kate Casey described them totally differently like we're all seeing something different, but like it's my thing with Carl I can't dislike Carl. I still like it. I do like him too. I do. And as far as things, he goes, you don't understand your teeth until you go on TV because everybody on TV has bleached teeth. So his teeth are probably totally fucking normal. Like that's the funny thing. You probably wouldn't even notice in real life. He's probably just only when he didn't get his teeth bleached before he went on TV. And now he has to deal with it for the rest of his life. Because he didn't realize that when he went on the show that people would actually watch it,

and then there'd be two bitches with a podcast in here, Carping on his poor teeth. And he's a dental girl. But he's a dental salesman guy. You know, that's what I think that's where people are really bumping on this issue But I agree I actually like Carl be does such do she things all the time why Carl why why Carl? Carl Carl do you still like us Carl Carl and just on that note no Carl didn't like us Are you kidding would you I would neither it's like just for the record That is not what he say. It's like that is I wouldn't either. It's like just for the record, that is not what he says. He's like, that is not a tongue pulse. It's a.

I forgot. This would be tweeted at us or. Yeah, something about this time. Ever, you know, like he's talking about his tongue like, Oh, ever, you know, every post has been posting on our Facebook page. He actually, we made a joke about Miss Saigon and he's like, Yeah, man, I wouldn't saw that. And then it was online.

The 25th anniversary is online if you want to link. I was like, Oh my God, this musical. So I was doing my liaison long a whole weekend. Love it. The big helicopter. I remember when that came out, they're like, it's a helicopter stage. It's like some shell of a helicopter on a string. Like you still don't know how upset I was and my parents weren't without me. You still don't know. I wanted to see that shell of a helicopter. Instead I

was home watching M.D. Nelson nurses. It was like the decline of NBC Saturday night. So I didn't get to see it either. I've only seen it on TV. I just had all the CDs of all those musicals. That's how I knew. But I was never away from it. My parents were going, they could have just kept me on their lap. So anyway, another thing that I thought was funny was for Lindsay's birthday. The Workers' Twins got some hair on makeup from PREV, which I think has shown up on a few of these shows. And what I loved is when everyone was getting their blowouts and their makeup done, a hair woman asked Christina, it's like, said, is anyone have any boyfriend in the house?

And Christina's like, yeah, I think Lindsay has a guy in the house, which I was like, oh, that's so shady, Christina, because you know that Lindsay does it, and you're forcing Lindsay to have to say, I'm single and I'm 30. I'm happy about it. Um, I just, the, why are you gonna hire makeup ladies to do blackface on you? Her base was so dark. She's literally getting blackface so she can sing, I'm telling you I'm not going to effort later. I'm like, okay, Jennifer Hudson. Slash holiday, either one would work in the situation. Either one except we except both Jennifer's because they both do phenomenal jobs at that song in different ways. Although we should probably play it.

Although, since we've actually met Jennifer holiday simultaneously, maybe we should get we should give it to her instead. Ty break. Ty break reference. Oh, yeah, I will give it. You know, I love Jennifer Hudson, but I give a lot to Jennifer Hall today. She does some really odd gigs. I saw her do the 4th of July thing last year. I was in Texas. And just watching her sing the Star Spangled Banner is, I mean, if you haven't seen it, look it up. Just watch her face. It's fucking hilarious because she gets so into it.

She's like, whoah, who's that? She did. You see, yeah. I mean, she's a wadi-chopping whine. She does that weird face thing, but then magic comes out. And you wha, and you wha, and you wha, He does that weird face thing, but then magic comes out. And you wow, and you wow, and you wow, you're gonna blow me up. What if Jennifer Holiday was another renter on Summer House?

Like it was all these people, and then Jennifer Holiday. Just in another room. She'd be telling them to be quiet all night long. It'd be like, you cannot be in this meeting. This is a renter's meeting. She'd be like and you what and you So we are family She's like Speaking Call call call call call call call call call call call no Carl and by the way the twins did that again

I think when they got to the to the ho down Like what one of the twins is like where's Carl where's Carl Stephen? Who's you with Stephen? Who's Carl with Stephen? God bless them Bless those girls. Okay, so I love golfing so the boy Carl and Everett, like, bro, what are you doing? Bro, what are you doing? I'm gonna, like, golf. Yeah, bro. So they go to golf and I just like to see him because of all the broad things that they were saying throughout it. So, I'muka, bra. Well, yeah, because Carl's like, well, man, I get it, you know, makeup sex is the best. So you know, keep fighting, keep fucking.

I shut up, Carl. How about you, Prussia? Yeah, you know, it's like, I just can't decide, because when we're good and clicking, she takes me from here to soaring, bra. And then Carl's like, yeah, but then she takes you from soaring to and goes, yeah, the crashing, the crashing of the beach, you know, the wings of clip to crash on the beach, you get your face ripped off by the sand before you know what there's something in me's chance standing in front of you with a dirty dime of crying. And you're like, what did I do to my

life? And what am I doing for my country? And I got a gun up against my head, and there's non-chambers and one bullet, and I don't know what's happening next, but I'm on that trigger and say love me, motherfucker! Curls like, yeah, well, not gonna lie, bro. Lindsay looked so hot last night, bro. Lock it down, bro.

I believe the exact quote was, Lindsay looked so fucking hot last night like fuck. I wouldn't want you to quote Carl. Carl, Carl, Carl. Carl, did you hit a hole in one, Carl? Carl, did you hit the ball? Carl, how's Carl? Carl. And ever it's like, she didn't make a move.

What? What did I say? I'm sorry. I'm just, I'm matching Lauren showing up on one of those little cards in the train that picks up the balls Carl Carl I got your balls Carl Carl Carl Carl Carl Carl Carl Carl you need to get one ball Carl Then you can tell which balls yours Carl like this crazy Carl refill your basket Carl just give me a second Carl Carl Carl just I'm just vacuuming up all the balls Carl Carl

Ever it's like speaking of hot speaking about faces melting off the skin from the heat of a hot beach. What about these girls you brought home? Because Carl brought home those two, you know, bimbos from LA. And Carl's like, and that's when Carl was saying that stuff about Lauren. Yeah. She's like, Lauren's like awesome and engaging, but it's intimidating. And ever it's like, whoa, that car.

He's a man of mystery. I think Carl's like beer, beer brought and he goes, tits out for the boys, tits out for the boys. You fucking douchebags. I also want to mention, by the way, that whenever it came back to Lindsay's ... came to Lindsay's head on birthday. It's her birthday party. He shows up and then they have a conversation and she's like, Avrat, you have to like express things more.

I need to get things out and you like to keep them in and he's like, yeah, but I've seen so many fucked up things. You don't know what I've seen. I've seen, but I've seen so many fucked up things. You don't know what I've seen. I've seen the things I've seen. I'm like, this is her birthday party, bro. Just like, say sorry and enjoy it. And I like, talk about this tomorrow. So you don't know what I've seen.

Like, you don't know what sort of girls girls bring in. I've seen them. It's rough. And basically the woman always wins. Cause she's like, yeah, I'm like, you need to communicate with me and you're not communicating. And like, I'm when I am something negative,

I need to get it out and he's like, put on drama jazz. And she's like, yeah, but I need to get it out. And so you need to communicate about what you're feeling. So, and he's like, okay, I'm like, okay. So basically now you saw a list of Nervy negative and never ask anybody else how she's doing, or how they're doing.

And one last thing about this hold down, we did not mention this and it really needs to be mentioned. The look on Christina's face whenever it showed up was classic. She was like, so it's a combination of angry, confused, annoyed, frustrated, bitter perfection. It's Christina's that that was like Christina's chocolate sampler. It was her face. She just had this when you look at the bottom of the box. It's like confused, angry. Oh my god, it was such an amazing face.

They cut back to it like two or three times. And she's like, yeah, she's like my plans are not working. Christina did kind of have an epic episode that she is unable to control her emotions in any way because later on it was like the next day after the golfing and Sabrina and Kerry, the two LA girls who are staying the whole weekend, at this point, the girls have gotten used to them. And they're like, yeah, we like them a lot.

And so the workers twins were trying to kind of smooth something over, or maybe it's Christina who is saying, you know, I'm like really glad you guys are here. It's not about you guys. It's just about the delivery, like the delivery that they never gave us any warning. That's all just the delivery, like the delivery that they never gave us any warning. That's all just the delivery. That's just how she said it. She's like, so are you guys having fun? Yeah. Yeah. She's like, well, good.

You know, we are two. I just, we wish that Carl had told us because it's basically kind of rude what he did. Yeah. It's not about you. It's not about you guys. It's not about guests about the delivery. No, that was the twin. She's like, wow, wait a minute. Yeah, that was, uh, you're right.

You know, that was it was just the, it's not you guys. It's just, you know, how you get it, you know, it was his delivery. And she got one of the hosts. We like, well, if it's not about the guests and why'd you call it hookers, Kyle goes, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. You called them hookers, like, Christina's like, I was sticking up for Lauren. I was just joking. And she got Lauren pulls her aside, but right in front of the girls. And she's like, what, Christina?

Like, I really don't like you standing up for me by telling me that you were calling her a ho for me. So please don't do that for me. Okay. Yeah, they pretty much just like hung Christina out to dry. I mean, to be fair, Christina wasn't really defending Lauren. She was just being a catty girl at that moment. But I mean, but she was being a cat. There was, let me, let me, let me back that up. I do

think she was trying to show support for Lauren in a certain way, but I think she was also a little happy to call them hookers. And you know what, we were behind you, Chrissy. Now we supported it. Yeah, it was funny when she walked in, because the girls walked in to all the gang in Christina. And it was like, who are these hosts? So that wasn't really that offensive, you know? But yeah, and the girl who was like,

why did she call us hookers? And she's sitting there with her lips that, you know, look like two sausages. You know, oh my god. Who just slept with Kyle, although that's not, I don't want to slouch him because she has every right to sleep with Kyle. Go get it girl, but seriously, the lips though.

I wonder why people ask. Yeah, group group group on surgery. Yeah. Um, so Chris, uh, Christina, she's like, I'm sorry, but then she starts to cry. She's like, oh, I'm sorry, but she's like smile crying. And then I was like, it's okay. No, really, I apologize.

She's like, no, seriously? Like, it's really okay. I'm like, I'm glad, are you gonna cry? Are you crying? She's like, I'm fine. I'm fine. You're crying. I'm like, I'm crying.

This was truly me after watching life is beautiful. I'm fine. And she's like squinting her eyes and trying to smile. Are you sure? What's wrong? I'm buying, I'm buying, I'm buying, I'm buying. Everyone just stares at her. There's no way to describe that scene to convey the beauty. Yeah, I made a little gift of it, but even the gift is, I think, very funny,

but it's still this, like you said, this scene is, it's like trying to take a picture of the Grand Canyon. You just can't get it all in there. You can't capture it. So the gang all goes paddle boarding. Now this scene was funny just because of the twins. So they're all trying to figure out how to, you know, work these paddle boards or whatever. And she's like, Lauren, come with me, Lauren come with me. Lauren, come on. This way to let Starboard. Starboard. We're here. Starboard.

Come on. This way. Carl, you want to come with us? Carl, you want to row with us? Carl, you row. Come on. Hi. Okay.

Carl. I'll just drink. Okay. I'll just drink. Okay. How do you feel about Carl? I need to know how you feel about Carl because I can only imagine how you feel because like, I'm not even you and I'm extremely disappointed in Carl.

Okay. Well, I feel like Carl is trying to get a reaction on me and like he's not going to get a reaction on me, but like he's going to like like, like, like, if he thinks that these tears are reaction towards him, he is sadly mistaken. I have air in my eyes. He's not reactions towards him. No, he's telling me to say again. No, no, no, you better not be.

And you know, like, he, he trying, oh, I I can't even I don't even separate them anymore because we just do them at the same time. No, Biller. Biller. Biller. Biller. Biller. Biller. Biller. Biller. Biller. Biller. Biller. Biller. Biller. If you're trying to get a rise out of me, you know, it's not going to happen. Biller. Biller. Biller. Biller. This is a very professional so, Biller. I just don't understand it because I wanted something casual and then builer was like, I want to really bark at you hard. So I was like, okay, I'll bark to you and I'll plan our like barking schedules and then he was like, all of a sudden,

builer doesn't want to bark with me anymore and I don't like that. I don't get it anymore. Fuelers like, I really don't appreciate how the UPS guy came over right now because I was just sleeping on the couch and like, it really wasn't cool what he did to me right now because I was feeling really secure and now feeling really insecure. Like, can I trust this couch right now? So Lauren's whole thing is that I actually felt bad for it because in her mind she's like,

I just want something casual and then he charmed me into thinking that it could be more than something casual. And so I started to get my heart set on it and then all of a sudden it cooled off and I don't know what happened. It's like, Lauren, it's pretty obvious what happened. It's not just that Carl's a player, but that he doesn't want to be called on a shit. And when you call them on a shit about taking another girl to the wedding, then he started to feel like you're a clinger, which is really more about him than about you,

Lauren. It's really like his insecurity. He's scared of something. And the moment that that happened, he just put on a different box. Like, she no longer became hot hook up. It became like, Denver zone commitment, like, answered to some girl, you know, like, where are you? Who are you talking to? And I know, even though he's setting it up like that. Yeah. That's like their excuse to run.

But the twins keep talking and talking. They're both wearing these fanny packs, which is also hilarious. Pavley circles. Jaws is crying. Jaws is like swimming up and then Jaws is like, which is also hilarious. Pavley circles. Jaws is crying. Jaws is like swimming up and then Jaws is like, eh, never mind. Jaws is like, family packs. Denton. Denton.

Like reversing it. Jaws, Jaws, Jaws. Lauren, we need to be a big alert. Lauren, I don't care about Jaws. Lee's me like, what the hell do I care? I'll find another Jaws. I thought Jaws was coming over here that all of a sudden things, things cooled off and he just like swam somewhere else.

Yeah, whatever. I'm gonna put it on my foot. I'm gonna put it on my foot in the water because like, you know, there's other jaws. Maybe they'll want that. Like, I'm not gonna wait for him. Other jaws. Where's Russia? The married twins starts crying, which is hilarious. I knew it, Lauren. I knew it. I knew he was a player, Lauren.

I want you to know what I am. I'm worried about you. Like you need a bread. I'm like, I worry about you in every situation because I'm gonna leave soon. I'm wanting to make sure you're married because like, whatever you're not married. And I'm married and you're not gonna be married.

This is gonna make me. And then it cuts to the gay guy and he's like, I can tell that she's crying because I can see her cry face from here. She's like, ah. Ah. He's like, I would rather talk to my dad,

Cleetus on the phone about something superficial, then have to deal with the work of twins crying. So good. And she's like, I just want to be clear. I'm not crying about her. I'm crying in my bad judgment. Yeah, I'm crying because your bad judgment clear. I'm going to San Diego and you have such bad judgment. What are you going to do without me Lauren? What are you going to do without me Lauren? Carl? Carl? What's Lauren going to do without me? Well Lauren just decided she's going to fuck. So she found some other

guy to fuck all weekend. And by the way, standing ovation in my apartment, I was like that's what you need to do Lauren. Go fuck someone else Yeah, and we still don't know if she actually was fucking somebody else or she just called the same Uber driver two days in a red and make her think she was fucking somebody else. But either way, good job because it did kind of work. He's like, how about a fair play? So speaking of the gay and his dad, we see Steven call his parents. And it was so funny to me because he's obviously come up with this personality at a skate home, you know. He talks totally to that. How are you doing? He's like growing up where I grew up. Like it was like playing in a sound box.

It was full of dirt. It was disgusting. And you knew there was something out there, but you were stuck in the mud. And his parents were so nice. They're like totally lovely. And he's like, my dad's name is Colitis. And my uncle's name is Elmau. He's all he's all disgusted with his family and they were so nice. It's like, Harry, you I'm building a building for the tractor. And he's like, well, that's interesting. Poor Stephen. And then he said he came out when he was young.

He said he came out and he's like, but that was the last time we had a conversation about it. And then like he's so misunderstood. And I mean, I get the feeling, but they're being so nice. If you want to have a conversation about your boyfriends, bring it up with them. If they say they don't want to talk about it and they can't deal with it. Then that's on them. But you're not really giving a much of a chance. He's just like, they're gross. I love on a sandbox. I know. Uh, that being said, it was kind of a dull scene. I love it. Because I was like, oh my God, he's so Sidney Sheldon. He's like, I'm getting out of here and I'm getting a gay accent. No, changing my voice to be like that and I'm out. I'll never be trapped again.

Hey, Steven, you want to be on this show? Okay, great. I'm trapped with a bunch of annoying straight people. Damn it. You don't ask me about my love life. So Steven's like, all right, I guess I'll take things into my own hands. So guess what, Lindsay, last week, Alrat, he woke up

and I'm bad with like four girls. She's like, Alrat, he's like last week, Alrat, he woke up and I'm bad with like four girls. And she's like, Alrat, he's like, yeah, Alrat. And the person was like, Alrat, Alrat. Oh, this was so awkward. She's like, it was a great birthday. I had a great night. And I'm like, I very apologize. Like, we're really going to work on it and like communication and like negativity.

And he's like, well, I don't know how to tell you this. So I'm just going to tell you the app right woke up with four bitches on a bed. And I like that Lindsey's question was, Lindsey's like four. Yeah, four. Four. Yeah, four.

Four. Were there my interns? She's like, I am mad times four. And I can tell you that I'm going to be like four times as mad now. And that's it. And she's going to somehow blame it on Christina next week or her mom. She's like, that's how many people were in my family. And not so many people who abandoned me.

And I can't believe you would do that with me. And it's like every time he goes golfing with Carl and he yells for it's just so inappropriate Oh, Lindsay goes if he's lying It's gonna be a problem for five minutes and then I'm gonna get over it because really I mean he's alright He would get his face ripped off in the beach and be at an on for me. So Yeah, the gay is bored and he's just gonna cause whatever shit he can at this point Which I have to applaud. He's kind of actually been at the heart of some of the biggest scandals of the season.

I mean, he was the one who let it slip pretty conveniently that Carl, Carl was on a, was with a girl at the wedding, you know. So he's sort of been in the middle of this and God bless him because he's bored. He's just gonna be like, okay, I'm gonna start some shit with these people. Why not? Yeah, pretty much. His level of disdain that he has for his family is the same level of disdain he has for everything.

And I love him. Yes. Yeah. So yeah, great episode of Summer House. I'm gonna be actually circled back because these things needed to be discussed. So everyone, thanks for listening. And thanks KKC. It was super fun doing that crossover episode of you.

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