Watch What Crappens - #419 Sweet Home Oklahoma: Spirit Zingers

Episode Date: March 24, 2017

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I'm Ronnie Caron from Trash Talk TV and the Rose Pricks Bachelor podcast. And I'm here with the gorgeous Ben Mandel Curves the beside blog and the banter blender. Hello, Ben. Hello Ronnie, what a week of crapens we've had. I know, hello, pin. Hello, Ronnie. What a week of crapens we've had. I know.

It's been a really fun week. Yeah. So I mean, between having Kyle and Christina on from Summer House and then recapping that crazy episode of Beverly Hills, we had our hands full. Yeah. It was a really fun week. And it's kind of my favorite season of Bravo because it's when everything's switching full. Yeah, it was a really fun week. And it's it's kind of my favorite season of

Bravo because it's won everything switching over. Yeah. And we're like at the end of this stuff. And there's so many new wonderful things beginning. Yeah, I mean, we are only about like about 10 days away from Potomac and Southern Charm. So the the the changeover is going to happen. We're actually going to be really busy that week because it looks like, you know, Vanderbump rules ends on Monday, season finale, which means we'll have about two weeks of reunion there. We're going to have, you know, Beverly Hills still going on, Atlantis still going on. So we're going to actually, right now, we should just be enjoying this

low in the schedule because we're going to have overlap soon and it's going to be a pantheas. overlap soon and it's gonna be a pan the ass. Yeah, and it's going to like Southern charm. Okay, yeah, you said Southern charm. What was the other one? We have Southern charm and Potomac and New York all coming back I think the same week. Man, that's a lot of noisy bitches.

A lot of noisy bitches and then we'll still be dealing with Atlanta, we'll still be dealing with some of the reunion stuff from Vanderbilt Bruehls and Berkeley Hills. a lot of noisy bitches and then we'll still be dealing with Atlanta will still be dealing with Some of the reunion stuff from Vanderpun brules and Berkeley Hills. So that's gonna be about kind of like six different shows on At once and of course we have sweet home Oklahoma, which we're gonna talk about today But I I have a feeling that during the overlap period we may not touch on sweet home Oklahoma But we'll come back to it once things settle down. I'm probably in my pocket.

Yeah. Well, the sweet home Oklahoma is so fucking hilarious, you know, like what can you really add? It's like, well, it's a different kind of hilarious. It's like recapping a sitcom, but man, it was good. I loved it. And it went so fast. I have to warn you and everybody.

My notes, I don't even know what's happening because it was going so fast. I don't work in a courthouse. I mean, I don't know how to do the sort of hair and typing or whatever the fuck they did. Well, I started to take notes. And then I realized, I think this is the sort of show I just have to approach, like Top Chef or Newly Weeds,

which is just sit there and soak it in and enjoy it. And if something striking happens, take a note out because otherwise, there's too much, especially the pilot episode, to me, the pilot episode felt like an extended sizzle reel. You know, it just went so fast, I was like, what is actually happening in the show? It's just a lot of people talking and then cutting and then talking and then walking down the street and then talking and then driving somewhere and then talking and smoking and talking. And I and talking and I was like I was like there's no like narrative flow here. It's just like you're trying to sell me on you like I get it

But I'm not a Bravo executive you can just do like a normal episode And it was funny because you texted me and you were like you're gonna hate this show I just thought you would, did you not? Well, let's put it this way. I thought it was hilarious, and don't you worry, I'm totally unborn. Okay, good. Surprise. No, actually, I was surprised. I was surprised.

But here's my thing though, I actually did not think the first episode was that strong. I didn't hate the first episode, but like I said, it felt like a sizzle reel. It felt like everything was just being thrown at us. We were being told what they're like, she's sassy. She's sassy. She's the best. She's sassy. Oh, you know her. You can't ever get enough fur.

There's a lot of talk about how sassy everyone was, but I wasn't really feeling it, except, you know, when pumps, her real name is Angie, but when pumps took out her latex glove to smoke, I was like, okay, there's some sass, I guess. But the second episode, it was second episode, they kind of got into what their normal episode, rhythm, would be like, I imagine. And it was like a night and day difference. And I thought the second episode was so funny. I literally laughed out loud multiple times. Yeah, I did three both of them.

I thought it was so, so funny. And I just like how they set it up, you know, they start by the girl. So it's three friends, right? There's Lee, who's like the nice innocent one. Yeah, and then there's Jennifer, who's kind of like the nice innocent one. Yeah, and then there's Jennifer who's kind of like the The Julia Sugar Baker of What's that what I'm trying to say is I need a man so sorry. Yeah, designer designing women

She's like the Julia Sugar Baker and then you've got Pumps who I don't know who she is, but she's hilarious. Delta Burke. Yeah, she's a mix between Delta Burke, Roseanne, and Charlene, probably. Just all of our favorite Southern sitcom women. She's rolled into one. Yeah, pretty much. So it opens with the girls kind of explaining

what Oklahoma is because, you know, we're watching Bravo and Bravo is usually like look it's people with private planes and swimming pools and gay people that they had to be their friends Yeah, and they're like no, we have people in overalls and you know you think of Jesus Hicks and people who voted for Trump on purpose and then didn't cut to somebody going twice which I Think yeah about about bush, right? People who voted for bush twice see that's what I'm saying about my notes

I have like half of a line written down and then it skips to something new So I don't even know what the what the joke of the setup is. I mean, so I mean what was interesting is These people were still wealthy. They still had big houses and they definitely have money. So it still fits into the Bravo brand. But I mean, Bravo is mainly about kind of blue state areas, even if Southern Charm is definitely not blue state. You know, it's all about wealthy about, you know, wealthy, sophisticated

people, which I know is totally snobby because the implication there is only blue state people are are sophisticated or whatever. But what was actually cool about this show is looking at Oklahoma through a different lens. My only views into Oklahoma are like the pioneer woman and yeah, pretty much the pioneer woman. Like that's I just I think everyone's just on a ranch making fattening biscuits and rushing to the store which is you know 45 minutes away to get there before the Baptist get out church. That's my view of what Oklahoma is. Oh my. And restaurants that serve, you know, testicles to Vicki and her kids. Yeah, bull balls or whatever. Is that where they had those? Those oysters? Yeah, it was in Oklahoma. Oklahoma. Well, the yeah, it was like, it's sort of like a Rocky Rocky Mountain oysters.

They had it was called something different in that restaurant. Fun fact, when I was an Uber driver, I had this girl in my car and she said she's from Oklahoma. I was like, oh cool. I just saw that I saw Oklahoma on Real House of Orange County and she goes, yeah, that restaurant with a sort of testicles to Vicki Gumbelson is actually my dad's restaurant. And I felt like touched by greatness. By bowl ball oyster greatness. by by bowl ball oyster greatness. Great. So this one starts.

But it's cool. Sorry. I realized I never finished my point, which was it was cool to see Oklahoma. Through Bravo, which you know, I'm sure there are probably a lot of Oklahoma. And so they're like,

yeah, this is what it's like, where nice restaurants and it's not all farmland and tornado country and and just like hicks, you know. Well, and it also makes you see how much rent we pay for nothing. I mean, oh my God, those houses are humongous

and they're driving through all kinds of neighborhoods because one of them's looking for a house and they're going through all these neighborhoods and everything's huge, you know? And there's like someone playing a banjo with one eye and you know, like two fingers outside. And I'm like, what the hell? How do they afford that? Yeah. It's not fair. I live in like a tiny little place. I just got mad. I was like, I'm moving, you know, like I could date that hot guy and the overalls with his son in the gun store when they're

like, Hey, what do you think of exercise? And he's like, well, we believe in exercise and our second amendment rights. I was like, I'd marry you. You have a lot of real estate. I'll be willing to put up with the guns. Who needs teeth when you've got real estate? We focus on the wrong things in this town. That's for sure.

That's that's absolutely true. So this show opens and it kind of tells you what it's about. And this is I think like right during this part is when I texted you and was like, you're going to hate this because it's like dodging grenades together. Sweet shenanigans against sweet attitudes Sweet Jesus and then someone goes don't miss with our dysfunction I was like, oh no, Ben is gonna kill this show. I could I could have teetered into very easily into that area that I don't like which is Like suburban fabulous Which I'm I don't that's you know It's hard to say because it's know, a lot of the shows we watch are, would probably sound like they're suburban fabulous, but to me, I'm not interested in watching

a TV show where someone's in a minivan picking up their kids and be like, isn't life crazy? Me and my girlfriends, we're gonna have wine now, sort of like real house was Dallas actually, but this one was not doing that suburban fabulous thing. It was just three friends cracking each other up left and right, making hilarious, sardonic remarks at all times. And true friends, you can, gosh, can you, you can really tell a difference when you see, like, three real friends on screen? Yeah. Oh, yes. It's night and day. When they don't have to, like, sit there and try and think of things to talk about.

Exactly. Because they already know each other. night and day when they don't have to like sit there and try and think of things to talk about. Exactly because they already know each other. And if you think, oh, go ahead. No, I'm sorry. I'm like, I'm like, you're going a lot. I'm just like, and I get for no reason. So the Oklahoma just gets me going. I think it's just, it's just nice to see that the farmer and the milkman can be friends. But I think that with, the farmer and the milkman can be friends. But I think that with this show, I think a good comp on Bravo would be man's ode with children or don't be tardy for the party. Shows that are half an hour long, they are comedic and tone. It's just like flying the wall and these zany people and they're, you know, and they're suburban enclaves doing zany things.

But the difference is that with manzo of the children or the Zolciac clan, they are all like, they all have images that they want to maintain or shape or whatever, you know. So it all feels totally fake and stupid. And they're also very vapid people, whereas these, these women are smart. They're not trying to maintain an image. They're just doing their thing. They're joking around the way a lot of us joke around. And I think it's relatable.

Oh, I like the little things that are already coming up. Like Angie always has a gallon of soda or sweet tea with her. Yes. Like shit like that. It's hilarious to me. Every time you see her, she's got like a gallon of soda or sweet tea with her. Yes. Like shit like that is hilarious to me. Every time you see her she's got like a gallon of sweet tea. And one of those gigantic styrofoam, you know, fast food cups. Sounds so good right now. And she's always trying to find somewhere to put it in people's car.

Yeah, I'm not a hipster. I can't find my keys. I always put them in bra. You don't have a sweet TD. You should have that in your bra. I should. I'm a phone in there. My keys. I love this show. I'll lift you back. It's like the first five seconds. Yeah, my first note was Angie pumps wants a nice tee. I was like, I'm just gonna write this down because I feel like it should be important.

And then she was like, when they didn't have an iced tea, wherever they were, where they didn't have a nice tea, she they were, where they didn't have an iced tea, she's like, okay, I'll be right back. Can I bring in my own iced tea? They're like, yeah, sure. Okay, and she goes out to work on, bring back that big gulp of iced tea. I was like, wow, she really is ready for anything.

She's always got iced tea. I guess when tornadoes can come barreling down, you wanna always make sure you got your iced tea ready. She's getting divorced, and she's talking about how she's representing herself and in her divorce because she's a lawyer, which you know, that's never really a good idea. Just representing yourself in general. But it will be hilarious at the courtroom when she pulls out her legal groups from her bra. Excuse me, your honor. Hold on one second. Can I look at exhibit A? Excuse me just one second here? Here we go. Oh look, I got a little milk on it.

I got some cheese there because she was saying they were smelling each other's armpits at one point to see if they stink and she's like, oh, you know, stink at all She's like, oh, yeah, I know. I just think when it's you know hot outside my titra sweating I just think when it's you know hot outside and my tits are sweating She's like do you lift them up to clean under she's like yeah, otherwise. I choose into there. I'm like, okay. I love you Yeah, very relatable. Yeah for those of us with man boobs For those of us with cheesy tits Those are just grow cheese in our bodies Objection your honor you son of a bitch. I want to see that court case so bad.

Yeah. It'll probably just play out like the making murderer, you know, cases, just in a very generic courtroom, and very quiet, and you'll be quiet, and you'll just be outraged. Do you or do you not let your ball hair grow down to your niece? Do not lie! Like, will I get to see WrestleMania you or do you not let your ball hair grow down to your knees? Do not lie. Will I get to see WrestleMania after this divorce?

So I buried him in the backyard who gives a shit? You know, she would, she would be like that in Syria. She back in. She came to my has to take some pictures of the car. I didn't like our shadow and buried around the fire track. See me. They'd be like, okay, thanks for your honesty. Thanks for coming in. You ever been to that best spot? This is a phone booth right there, I love it. I always use it every time I kill someone. So, one of my favorite things about this show is that they cut to the locals

and they just have producers asking them questions about whatever the plot is. And the first one is that they're trying to get Angie to exercise because she got really fat after her first divorce I guess and they show all these pictures and she's like I was hop in thin and the head cheerleader I don't like I don't want her to ever be thin by the way Yeah, I she's she's not a she should not be a thin person right and I feel like that's She's kind of the goal for all of the rest of us.

Of what happens to the head cheerleader, you know, we're like, yes, finally she understands me. And she ruled the school and then she discovered Sonic. And now she's down on the level with the smoking with gloves. Sir, it's can't smell. Have you ever been to Sonic? By the way, I've never been dysonic. Oh, yeah, I've been dysonic. Of course, Ben. That's where he's the good, the little crushed ice with some cherry coaks. Oh, I've never been. I, I, I guess I should try it out. I don't know there is no water burger, but well, it tries. It tries. It's hard to, hard to beat that,

that chicken on a biscuit with the honey butter, whatever it's called. Yeah, you can't beat that baby But I love that they're interviewing all the locals because the locals. Yeah, so cute This is where the overall guys because it's about exercise So they're like do people like to exercise? No, Oklahoma and he's like we like to exercise our second amendment rights and then there's this two old ladies like yeah we like to run to a bar. I actually liked that aspect of the show it you know it could have been gimmicky but a it separated itself a little bit from things like man's over children and b again was quietly saying okay this is what you probably think Oklahoma is,

people like this, but we're gonna give you these three women, they're gonna turn everything upside down, and, you know, Jennifer, you know, so her Jennifer's husband is this former lawyer, he's like, very hipster. He's a very hipster sort of guy. And again, it's just, you know, it's like you just don't expect to see a hip-synocal Homa. It's just very cool that this show is turning preconceptions that we, liberal electors on the coasts have. Who on from Texas?

So it's not really that different. I'm a New Yorker. I mean, I'm like through and through bubble. Yeah, not, yeah, no, these are my people for sure. So let's yeah, her husband. So Jennifer is the Julia Sugarmaker. She has a design business and her friends are like, she is so fancy. She has such good taste and then she tells us,

she's like, well, they're, you know, believe it or not, there is some money in style in this town. And so I do get some work. And then they show her hawkets and all her furniture. And it's just like humongous chairs. I guess those just hit Oklahoma. But it's like, it's like those ones that can't be put in the candy factory, you know, those couches that have the bags that are like ceilings. Yeah, the make the make Todd look even smaller.

Yeah. The make Todd insecure chairs. Yeah, I think, yeah, I did enjoy that when she said, there was a podcast, a vacation at Oklahoma City. I also enjoyed watching Angie or pumps, get her kids ready for school and she was like, you know, making a breakfast or whatever. I forgot what she asked. She offered them or asked them whatever, but they said something and then she just turns me, I'll tell you what

y'all are. Ungrateful. And I don't know why that just like cracked me up. She was making sausage for the kids and I'm like, gross. She's like, I'm gonna tie these garbage bags over your head. I'm then cut to her friends like, she's an awesome mom. And she takes them to school and she's like, all right, kids, you know what I want from you to be happy? Knock it out of the park today. She's putting on, she's in a bathrobe in the car,

putting on her rubber latex gloves so she can smoke. Yeah, she didn't want the kids to smell cigarette on her hand. Like, what about in the rest of the car? Oh, so let's see. Pumps at her office. I hope we get to see more pumps at her lawyer office. Yeah, I like that.

I also like when the women were saying how smart pumps is. And the editors are so mean, they just then show a clip of her taking her glasses off, fudzing with them and then putting them back on again. Like a bumbling professor. So Jen, we get some insight into Jen and her hipster has been, they are divorced actually. So now they're just dating and living together, which, you know, very bravo. Yeah. And I really like him. This guy, he's like, well, I was a lawyer, but then I, well, I got pulled over for D.Y. and the my partners tried to bribe the police and then I hit the police officer. So I'm not loyal now. But, uh, you know, just kind of all vacation, just waiting to get back into it.

All right, picked up photography. This is the best kind of lawyer. You want a lawyer that knows what it's like to hit a cop, you know, try and bribe them, do a lot of drugs and be in jail. You know, it's like you want a lawyer who kind of understands the situation. Yeah, he understands your experience. That's important. Yeah, they have, they have like a very unconventional relationship, but they're monogamous, divorced, but on good terms.

And he's also like best friends with pumps. So they're all one big happy family in an untraditional way, which is kind of cool. Yeah. And apparently he wants pooped a bed and blamed the kid for it. Right? Did I hear that right? Yeah, he got so drunk that he pooped a bed and blamed the kid for it. Right? Did I hear that right? Yeah, he got so drunk that he pooped the bed and then he climbed one of the kids. I think it's great, great fatherly, you know, actions there. Of course,

you blame the kids. He should have blamed the kid for hitting the cop and doing drugs. I mean, we'll get her those things if they can't serve a little time for you. Yeah, that's what I always say. So the first episode is basically about all the girls trying to get Angie to lose weight. So they get these child trackers so they can make sure that she's just not sitting around all day because, you know, of course, that's what she's going to do. And the first time they, they ask the, the locals, they're like, well, what do you think about using apps to keep track of your friends? And they cut to this guy's like, I think it's really sad that people are tracking their friends with electricity. Yeah. And he said something to the producer like, I think it's crazy that you're,

you're like right now, you're beaming this up to the government or something weird like that. I was like, what? Yeah, he's like, it's also dim that the phone you're carrying. My Bravo skipped a little bit. Oh, it wasn't. It wasn't worth it. You could just fill in the blank. You could do like madlibs with it. I wrote down my next note because we then saw several scenes of them walking around, getting their steps, getting their steps. Oh, is Angie getting her steps? I was like, is. Oh, is Angie getting her steps? I was like, is the arc of this episode really about steps? Is that really what this pilot's about?

It was. Well, we all have those days where that is the plot. Haven't you ever shared your, like, my fitness pal or whatever with your friends? It's the worst. Yeah. Well, I actually, I don't have one of those steps, anything. I don't have a wearable, as they say. So I am, I don't have one of those step anything. I don't have a wearable, as they say. So I am not beholden to any number of steps, but who knows? Yeah, I got out of my life. I was going to get an eye watching my friend Matt, who is from Oklahoma. I was asking him about his and he's like, oh, it's great.

You know, sugar, how do you so many steps? Look how many steps I've done today. And then he shares his steps with his friends and they all go over like how much they've worked out and what they're doing. And I mean, no offense to really anybody, but we're all gaining weight, you know, like we're in our 40s now. And I'm like, you guys are sitting here talking about your steps. You're all 10 pounds, the biggest in the last time I saw you.

Like come on now. What do you think a step is going to do? You better run. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I always told myself I'd never count calories. Now, I'm on my fitness pal counting calories and I want to shoot myself. So who knows if a fit bit is in my future, but I really hope it's not because I don't want to want to be one of those people. I was like, oh no, there's one more hour left in the day. I have to walk around the block 10 times. I get shot and killed. I used to use my fitness pal like you and I lost a lot of weight doing it because you know, it's a miracle.

Calories, wow, who knew? County calories. But I was sharing that with my friends because you can hook up with people on Facebook or whatever. And so I had a little group that we were sharing with. And I found that I was lying to the my fitness pal because I didn't want to get in trouble with my friends. And so, you know, it's like when you get a shrink

and you lie so they don't judge you, it's like, well, you're going to them to help you dumbass. And so, I stopped it. I get it. Now I just lie with words, like a normal person. Like, why don't I need an app to lie? Yeah, you can just lie with self-delusion, you know? Yeah.

So then speaking of getting into shape, Hums then takes her kids to a candy shop, which I liked because there was this montage of her looking at everything and everything she saw, she goes, ooh, beforehand, she goes, ooh, candy corn, ooh, candy cane, ooh, red vines, ooh, and my am's. And they catch her, of course. She's like, what are you doing? Oh red vans. Oh, it mams.

And they catch her, of course. She's like, what are you doing? What are you doing? She's like, I'm just spending the afternoon with my little darling, shopping at the vegan grocery store. So I'm really because it says you're at a cupcake shop. And she goes, a cupcake's not that terrible. And her kids like, yeah, it is. I love that kid. She her kids like, yeah, it is.

I love that kid. She's a little brieel, right? Which one, the little girl? Yeah, her daughter. Doesn't she look like brieel did when she was younger? I feel like that is such an insulting thing to say. You ever come here a child to brieel? I love brieel.

You know, like brieel? No, I just feel like automatically you're going to destroy that kid's self confidence if they're compared to Priya. Her mom let her put her face through that. Yeah. Her mom will let her do that. Yeah. I would hope do that to her face.

She'll be like, Oh, hey, I'll know you better get a job. I mean, that kid will have to pay for it herself. Poor Priya. Right. I mean, wow. That girl did not for it herself. Poor Briole, right? I mean, wow. That girl did not, she just came out of the wrong womb. You know, like she's not gonna get any guidance that she needs in life.

Oh, thank God she's got Croy to help her a little bit. But wow, she's doomed. Yeah. Anyway, I heard you're depressing me. Well, I mean, you mentioned you brought on Briole. I know, I'm like, oh, Brio's life is ruined. Okay, thanks for listening everybody. So there's my cupcake store and then pumps is like,

well, while you're constantly tracking my movements, you should consider that you have an illegal and emotional support animal license. And you saw me like, if I was standing on the TV at that point, did you see me do that? Because you know, that's my thing. You know, that's my thing in ESA. And we found out that Jennifer, I think it was Jennifer, right?

It has an ESA and emotional support animal for the entire family. I mean, but even she's like, yeah, it's a scam. I don't care. So I'm like, well, okay, at least you're, if you, if at least you can announce that it's a scam and you just don't care, I can't fault you for that. But it's the people who act like it's not a scam. That's a real problem. Yeah. Well, it's too, you know, it's too long of a title to be like, I want to take my dog in this store because they took their dog in the store license. Yeah. You know,

you have to call it something. Yeah. I think an ESA is only a lot is means you only get special privileges for traveling with an animal and I and and it also pertains to Like your living situation like a landlord can't do X Y and Z to you if you have an animal You're not supposed to because it's an ESA. I this is not what we like declared about a month ago when we discuss this So going into a store going into here there with an ESA You do not get special special privileges You do not you just get to take your dog. I've had it look I mean sometimes you got to get a dog from point A to point B Okay, you got to get them that letter and get them on the plane

Otherwise you have to shove them under the plane and then they come out all traumatized. One time I put a scene under there and she came out walking sideways and she kind of cried when I pet her for like two weeks. She was very traumatized. It's very cold and shaky and loud under there. Okay. It is, it is, it is true. That is like, I mean, it's, I'm getting my ESA certificate until y'all make little planes each for dogs there. Taking a make it. They should do something to make a little nicer down there for the animals at the very least. That's I will can see that.

Yeah, guys. So let's see. The next question is, are you friends with your ex? And it sees two older ladies in the store and she's like, well, I'm friends with all, but one of my ex is not could have killed him. She's like, don't say that. Well, yeah, he was a dick. He's dead now. They both start cracking up. Like, okay, I'll be moving to this town. Yeah. I have to say, I thought for the pilot, all this stuff with the Fitbit or the Wearable

and then Pumps goes into the candy store and they track her down and then later on, they're like, oh wow, she's finally starting to walk and it was so obvious that she put it on the dog. This felt very good. I was throwing the ball on the dog. This felt very pretty good. That was throwing the ball for the dog. Yeah, but I was like, you knew that was going to happen like a mile away. But that was, I just didn't feel like that was a very strong,

strong, you know, pilot story. It wasn't to me that original or that funny. I thought the second episode when they, when Lee went on a date, that was better. It was a little bit more grounded because I would believe friends getting all involved with choosing the guy and then showing up at the restaurant. I believe that stuff happening. I think the walking thing, though, the steps just didn't feel as real. Even though I know both are probably equally producer driven. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, but I think you have to

put that aside when you watch this, you know, I can't. I just can't. It's just silly. But you know, it's not about that. It's just it's not about putting it to the side. It's that it let for me, the story was stronger in the second episode, the quote unquote story, the narrative. And that allowed all the characters and comedy to shine that much more. Whereas the other one, you're like, okay, I'll go along with it. It's fine, but this feels a little silly. All right.

Let's move on to the second one. Yeah. Let's move on to the second one. I'm, by the way, can we also talk about how obsessed they are with saying the phrase things are falling out of the sky. I think like two or three of them said it, you know, like, next thing I knew, things just falling out of the sky. But at least they're not doing, at least they're not doing just saying, just saying, just

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crafted narrative designed to sell albums? Follow Disantel wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondering Up. My mail just fell out of the sky. Maybe that's just how they do things. There's so much ground to cover planes just fly over with death Yes, yeah, so in this one Lee needs a date so they're all gonna try and start making her day again and Of course like good girlfriends. They're mostly worried about her hairs on her chin. Like, that's the first thing they have to start with. She's like, you gotta get those lasers off, okay?

And, you know, Lee, by the way, is such a catch. I can't imagine having any difficulty dating anyone. Well, that guy's obviously an asshole because she's like, well, for a long time, me and Barry tried to wreck and style But as you can see his face is blurred out in this picture, so he wouldn't even sign to be on this show in a picture So that tells you the kind of person he is Yeah, exactly. I'm if she didn't want him to be on it, you know, either way bad news

Yeah, how could you leave leaves? She's so nice. Yeah, how could you do that to Lee, man? Yeah, not our precious Lee, not Lee. So they're gonna go, she's gonna go on a date and everything. I loved when the producer asked some women about dating or online dating and this one woman goes, he said his name was Jimmy with an iE and I said, I'm Linda with an anO.

I was like, ooh, yeah, get a girl. And then the other one's like, online dating, if you can't do it on your own then. Hale. I was like girl, you are lucky that you got married when you were 13 because you have a whole world of pain if you had to be on online dating. It's a tough world out there, man. Absolutely.

Seriously. Josh, the ex husband, current boyfriend of Jen, goes to pick up pumps to drive around looking for houses because she's divorcing so she means a new house because she can't afford the big huge one on her own. So they're driving around and they're best friends and she's telling us about their friendship. She's like, we met in 94. He was using it the time and he's like the drugs. She's like, what the hell else would you be using? She's like, what the hell is it? Would you be using it? How else will that be talking about right now?

That was a great moment. She's smoking with her gloves. Yeah, and they talk about the drug addiction. Well, she just stares around at the houses. Yeah. And she's like, I love that you're not just, you're just not afraid to say, because he's one of those, he's like,

hi, I'm Josh, nice to meet you. I was a drug addict and I let everybody down. You know, my kids still have so much guilt and shame. He's just that kind of guy who's like always sharing his pain. And she's like, I love that you're not afraid to say, hi, I'm Josh, I screwed up. And he goes, well, yeah, that comes from experience to failing at everything I've ever done.

Well, I have to say it's much more refreshing than listening to Eden or Kim talk about their sobriety issues. Yeah, in the sense that Eden uses it as a launch pad to feel like she can talk about everyone's sobriety issues and Kim uses it as, well, Kim just just doesn't Kim's sort of instilling denial about her her addiction issues. Kim's like using a white. I'm good. Jeez. So he's telling your touch you want to date. She's like no. Why would I want to date? He's like are you lesbian? No, not a lesbian. Because don't you

think watching women's softball is kind of fishy? She goes pun intended And you did have a dream about a lesbian experience once and she's like that was on Ambien That's my girl. It makes me wonder is she going off to see softball a lot? Yeah, she like goes to watch a women softball off to see softball a lot. Yeah, she like goes to watch the women softball. I don't you know what you know it's funny that the softball stereotype, I don't feel like softball inherently makes you a lesbian. Oh no softball doesn't make you a lesbian and just like show tunes doesn't make you gay, you know. I know. I know. It's just like show tunes. But do I feel

like I've never really met any lesbians that are like all about softball. Have you? That's a part of that's a stereotype that I just haven't actually seen in my eyes. I've seen gays who are really into basket ball Okay, yeah, yes, I feel like the the lesbian stereotype is closer to that hilarious skit that SNL did two weeks ago the parody of Fire Island, where it was the lesbian version of Fire Island. That to me was exactly what I think up with Lesbians. What was the lesbian fire island?

Oh, you didn't see it, it was amazing. It was like, from the producers of Fire Island, because you know about Fire Island. Uh-huh. So it's this new reality show coming out with all these hot gay guys prancing around. So from the producers of Fire Island comes like the lesbian version and it was like a bunch of women all holding babies in a house. Sharing their feelings at one point like hit McKinning she like swig some beer shows. Yep, that's a wolf sanctuary and they cut to a jigsaw puzzle of a wolf sanctuary that they're all working on.

and they cut to a jigsaw puzzle of a wolf sanctuary that they're all working on. It's like absurdly funny and that's what I think of the lesbians. I don't think of that softball. Well, it is getting more difficult to stereotype everybody lately. I wouldn't even go to the bars and it's lesbian night because in LA lesbians don't have a bar because they can't keep one open because they're like, hey, you guys want to, as Jen says, later, Netflix and chill. That's like very lesbian to do. Yeah. Let's just sit on my couch and drink wine and, you know, cuddle. But whenever you go to girls night at one of the gay bars here, I mean, some of these

girls are just like super models, you know, and all decked out and the weave down to the floor. Yeah. And it's very difficult, you know, and the straight guys act like gay guys now and everybody's waxing their eyebrows. I mean, I just don't know what to do anymore, man. I know the world is topsy turvy. Thank all of them. I'm crazy. Yeah. So they next step is Jen making league and on Bumble. Yeah. It's always funny to me when people act like it's

such a big deal to get on an app or on one of these websites. Like, oh my god, we're going on to, okay, keep it. We're going on to, we're going on online dating. I'm like, it is a big deal. It's a real. I know for certain age, it's a big deal. And I'm not trying to do that in an ageous way. I just know that like there was like a generation line there

where people grew up not doing it, but it's just funny because I think with gaze, especially, you know, we were on the grinder training a long time ago. So we were on line, we were updating probably before most populations. Yeah, but the grinder isn't like grinders a fuck app. So you go on there and you

look at someone's chest or whatever and then you go fuck up like this is where you have to have like write a whole thing about yourself and my best friend is trying to make me do it right now and it is hard, you know, everything I say I sound like a jackass, you know, or like like, Bob, Bob, you can't take anything seriously Bob. I'm like that. Or you know, or like, like, Bob, Bob can't take anything seriously, but I'm like that. Or, you know, then people look at your pick, you have to like pick the exact right picture to be your profile. So people will know what they're getting into because you don't want to be too thin. And then they show up and they're like, you're really fat. But then you don't want to be too fat because they're going to be like, Oh my God, you're going to crush me. I mean, there's so much

it goes into it, man. But I, but I guess it's guess it's not that I'm not saying that it's easy to fill out the profile. I'm just saying the whole this whole pageantry of, oh my God, this is crazy. We're going to go on to online dating. What a crazy new world this is. And to us, even though Grindr is just for hookups, it made it pretty, you know, the idea of having some sort of relationship on some level, whether on a carnal level or not, is I think we're pretty used to that. We're gay people because we've been doing it now for several years.

And when Tinder came along, I was like, oh, okay, but it's still like, even now, like there are people who are like, what? Like you met on a phone app? Oh my god, I can't even put myself on a phone app. Like people are still like shocked as there's some crazy new trend to come out of California like carrots and yoga or something, you know? Why is there a book with your face in it? Good, see you soon.

Yeah, I totally get what you're saying, but I'm currently living this storyline and it's terrifying. I do not wanna go anywhere. I don't wanna do anything ever. And then people lie and then you meet them and it's like a really sweaty guy who's like two feet shorter than he said.

And it's like, what did he just say? I put my love handles on there. Like why couldn't you take off your pumps? I just don't know why any online dating apps or websites haven't incorporated video yet. Maybe they have, but it should be video because that also answers a lot of things. You can't hide as many things on video.

Well, you're talking to someone with a green screen and professional lighting in his apartment. You're like, here I am in Cameroon. It's like you like stock, stock photo. Here I am in the castle in Versa. Oh, yeah, we got, oh, we have a, we have to mention. We met, we were referring to the Kentucky town of Versailles, Versailles. I think this is Versailles? Versailles. Versailles. Versailles.

Versailles. Versailles. Cause Kentucky. Yeah, cause we're like, oh look, there's a city. There's a city in Kentucky called Versailles, like in France, of course, you know, far be it for us to ever imagine that it would be pronounced Versailles. So, apologies to everyone. Versailles. So they're going, these two are sitting on the couch going through Bumble I guess or whatever on the computer and I love to the same. This is so good. And she's like well do a reverse phone search So you can get his last name then we'll we'll you know investigate in Which is what you should do with everybody that you're dating, of course.

Yeah, I loved their Google stalking. I mean, that was some of the fun of online dating is being able to get a good stock on, you know, and you do some searching. And they found a guy, the first guy, he was, I'm trying to remember what the first guy was, because he, she went on the day with the second guy who was an exterminator. The first guy, the first guy, he was like, well, he's got tats, didn't he, a firecracker? He loves wine, he's goofy. And so they run, run his name for outstanding warrants. And he had one for forcible entry and detainer. And so they're like,

let's call pups because we don't know what that means. And she's like, well, just means he overstayed lease and didn't pay. It's not a red flag. It's a yellow flag. I don't want any flags actually. No flags with cops and flag. Well, hi, and I mean, in your 40s, everybody got a flag. That's true. That's true. So then said she goes with bachelor number two, because one of his likes is, uh, he likes that Facebook page. I fucking love science. She's like, I like that. And he's shorter. Like, all right, well, whatever floats your boat. Yeah, she's like, but this guy's short. She goes, well, I love Peter Dinklage. And he's short. Like, yeah, Peter Dink boat. Yeah, she's like, but this guy's short. She goes, well, I love Peter Dinklage and he's short. Like, yeah, Peter Dinklage is really,

he's like a little person. Yeah, that's a bit extreme. She goes, well, he never tease an exterminator. She goes, well, I do have that insect problem. This is so odd. I'm like, you have to, you have to really raise your standards. I also think this is the difference between women choosing guys and gay men choosing guys because gay men would be like, um, he's short.

But women are like, but he likes science. He could take care of my bug problem. Yeah. So they are going to drive her to the date, but of course spy on her. Yeah, they they drop her off at the restaurant, they drop me off at the restaurant, but then they're like, okay, we're going to go inside, right? They're like, yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah. So so Lee is there with this, you know, homely looking feller, you know, he's nice enough, I guess.

I mean, I think it was a waiter from the restaurant because he was wearing the exact same plaid shirt. Exactly. That's exactly what I wrote. I was like, is everyone here wearing red, white and blue plaid? That's very patriotic hipster. So they start off, they have, you know, it starts off pleasantly. And then pumps and Jennifer walk in and take a table directly behind Lee.

And then look on her face, she looked like she was actually surprised. It did not look like this was, she knew this was going to happen. It definitely was a candid camera punked kind of reaction. They sit right next to her and he's like, well, I'll join the Navy and I was stationed in Japan. And they're playing like the worst game of telephone because they're trying to listen. And she's like, I'm trying to get the things that they were misunderstanding, but it was so funny.

Yeah, I was basically like, yeah, I was deployed in Japan. And she's like, he was employed in Japan. He worked in Japan. And then he said, yeah, I used to love going to OU games, but I went to four games, they lost all four of them, so I think I'm banned. Like he got banned from the stadium. He was saying, yeah, I was in the Navy.

And she goes, are those your tags? And he's like, well, no, actually. And I shouldn't wear these because it's the wrong blood type. It's a case, very strange. I was. And she's like, he has no blood. He's full vampire. So she's like, those are my friends.

They're reconnemy assholes. And he goes, yeah, my friends are assholes too. I was like, oh, love. And just like, he just called her an asshole. And she's like, can we turn down this music in real hard to hear in here? Yeah, she literally did that. And the waiter's like, okay, she's like, we're eat stropping,

so could you turn the music? Improves. She's like, they he's darling. I mean, he's not a serial killer, but I could tell immediately that he's shorter than her. And then he starts telling a story about being proposition by some swingers, and he's telling kind of an uninteresting story. But they, but Angián and Jennifer are really into it.

And I kind of like, he gets quiet or something. And Jennifer's like, excuse me, what happened next I couldn't hear you I need to know what happened next. And he's just mortified. So that was basically it. Although I did really funny show. Yes, I just want to say at one point the women did leave and then they would love to go out and get a smoke and say start smoking in the window directly Outside of them so they're like so Lee and this guy are are having their date and pumps and Jennifer are literally their fixes are just like right there So then Lee just lowers all the curtains. I just love Jennifer going this bitch move right here These women they're very funny. They're taking pictures. Yeah, I don't

know how we're going to recap the show, but we'll try our best. Yeah, I think this should be one that we just check in on because really it's just repeating lines and we can, I mean, honestly, I don't I don't think we could be as funny as they already are. I mean, it already is what it is. I like when we can do things that aren't supposed to be funny, really. And then we can just play around with them. That's kind of what's going on. Like recapping sitcoms, I can't do that. It's hard. Yeah, because normally, I mean, when we recap things, we are, you know, taking a stand, something or just, you know,

taking the piece out of a situation or, or, you know or exposing some hypocrisy or weighing in on this nut. But if it's just all light and frilly, there's nothing we can really do except that was funny and that was funny. It's funny that. Yeah, I'm going to keep watching it just because I really like it, but it probably won't be a regular recap on here. Yeah.

I mean, we'll cover it next week. We have to cover it next week because we have nothing else to cover. But we can watch some of that other show too. We haven't talked about that other one Yeah, we can watch a couple episodes that talk about it Sure, I'll watch one episode. I don't want to I don't want to watch two episodes for one for one recap But I'll just want you to check it out Yeah, okay, we'll do an imposter's thing, but for right now we do have crap and mailbag Okay, so um lots of questions in our crap and mailback. Why don't we do one from our listener spotlight lady of the week, Jessica Raleigh, who says, picture it.

I guess she's just going to, she's, she's channeling her inner Sophia Petrilo picture it. It's, it's a new season of Big Brother, but all the contestants are bravo liberties. Here's the cast, who wins, who goes first, and where are the alliances. So I'm going to just go through who the cast is. She's provided the cast. We say of these people who's going to win, who's going to get voted at first, and what sort of alliances will there be? Lala Kent, Kenya Moore, Kate Chastain, Brandy Glandel, Candy Burris, Bethany Frankel, Daniel Stobb, Gretchen Rossi,

Kristen, is it duty or doubty? Duty, doubty, whatever. Dode. Oh, Heather DeBro, Erica Jane, Melissa Gorga, Mikhail Slahy, Yolanda Hadid. Oh, my God. It's great cast. I say, the person who wins big brother is usually someone you don't really love and is a little generic

but they somehow fail their way to the top. So I'm going to say Melissa Gorgah. Yeah, Melissa Gorgah has a chance of winning. Definitely. I think the first one to be kicked off would be Bethany. No, I think Lala could get kicked off first. Well Bethany is the biggest mouth and usually the people who talk the biggest and are like, I'm going to win this game. Oh, yeah, this game is mine.

Yep. This game, I can do it. I'm going to go from person to person. Yeah, my side, yeah, my side. Seriously, seriously, yeah, my side, yeah, my side. She will, she'd immediately get kicked off. They'd be like, wait a minute. That like you'd hear everything she said through those thin walls.

They'd be like, wait a minute. she just made it deal with every team. Yeah. I think that should be, I think Bethany would be out third. I think she would be a first, first act at the season personality, where in the beginning, she would, she would find the cool kids first and should be in with them, but then she would implode and then they'd realize she's too much of a liability. I think actually, I think, first off, I think it's gonna be Yolanda off first because, well, Yolanda's gonna be off first

or she'll be off, she'll come in like fifth place because the first challenge is always like, hold onto a hot dog, like a big slippery hot dog and Yolanda's gonna fall off first. So, she's the oldest. They'll either kick her off or she'll become the mother figure and then she'll last until Number five and then the kids are gonna turn on her. Yeah, well, EJ would win that challenge for sure Like the rap a hot dog and hold on if every challenge were a hot dog challenge, Erica Jane would just take the season

But Erica Jane actually does have a chance to go super far because she's very good at staying quiet and no one even knows. Like in the first season, she was very quiet on Beverly Hills. Like she barely ever talked, you know, except to us, but like in the group scenes, she didn't talk to other people very much at all. So those are the people who usually make it to like at least second place. Yeah, I actually think that's I think Eric and Jan would definitely make it to the end. It she could win. She could win in this group. I think Rechen will be the would be the one that we get so annoyed with. She'd be on like the minority alliance and but she's still friends

with the majority alliance and then she's just she'd be the one that goes it's just not just like not fair, you know, it's not fair. Like all my friends are getting voted out, you know, she's that one, you know. And she's the one who boons it for her alliance. She's the one who talks a little bit too much to someone, maybe, or she's the one who maybe flirts with a guy and then all of a sudden, everything is in jeopardy because of her flirting.

Yeah, Brandy is the one that gets out of alliance because she's so cool and fun and stuff. And then she just ruins it for everybody on the alliance because she turns out to be crazy. Yeah. I actually think Danielle Stob would get voted out first. Oh my god. She's in this house too. She's in the house. A lot of people. She is because she would, she would just annoy everyone too much and she would talk to them, talk at them about what they should be doing with their lives and talk about her past. And they'd be like, she's crazy and she's not good in challenges. Let's just vote her out.

Okay. So who did we have, Wayne? La La? No, La La's just going to be in the cool group, but then she'll just hit me a kid win. Well, I don't know. You know, on Big Brother, the white people always hit the black people. You know, remember on what's just day, mama day is first season. Clay did something and mama day got annoyed and then he was like, wow, she's just so aggressive.

Like you just never know when she's going to pop off, which was basically, it was very much like masked racial bias, you know, and that's kind of what happens to black people in Big Brother, unless you're on your best behavior, then the white people are gonna think that you're like like a hostile threat and they vote you out. Yeah. Okay, what else is in that bag? Yeah, okay, what else is in that bad? What else is in the z old bag How about a la Alejandro M who says I know you guys didn't like real house as a Potomac all that much lies I liked it But could you give me a refresher on their voices and speculate what will happen this season and then Before we do that, Alejandro has a rant. So this is what he says.

Also, Dr. Jackie just needs to leave her husband, adopt a baby, and find some guy who will look after the baby during the day. If she had to pick from robust liberties, who would that husband be? Also, I call that she was unhappy in that marriage because she always compromises and lets him have the say. She can't have her own kids. She can't adopt kids.

And now he expects her to just retire like old people Who know kids rather than at least indulge and not having children and being part of the Atlanta social scene live some boring Live some boring as life in the suburbs fuck that Jackie get out Hey, man, hey man, Alejandro so Potomac Oh the voices. Well, you have Karen Uber. It's like, I'm Karen Uber. A little, a little.

I have to say, I like complying with all of our mail bag requests, but I don't know. I don't remember. Well, only when I remember it, yes, Lee, because I get to use, you know, I got to use that voice again. Well, yeah, where should we should we choose? I forget I forgot all our stories. You really kind of talk like like a show, but you really like this. Yes, she's better not be going to my kitchen drawers.

What I'm obsessed. And then there was what's her face? What was the name of? No one who talked like this. Robin. The one. Why are you embarrassed to be black? Why? One when you love to one. I'm not putting up with any of one shit. Oh, hi, Juan, do you need anything? Wondertouch. Why Ashley? Why'd your husband touch my ass? Wondertouch, my hands ass. I'm actually kind of excited that that's coming back. I mean, the one that hated that show was me.

I hated it. I hated it with the passion. I hated it from the first episode. And granted, we had some really fun episodes making fun of it. But that show offended me to my core. I can't really upset about that show. And Ben really liked it. That was one of our big splits on shows. Usually we like all the same shows, but yeah, I was really. Yeah, I was really sold when there was a fight that stemmed from Karen Huber Not being allowed to sit in the middle of her birthday didn't even catch that was I mean and then she brought that picture frame Of what etiquette is to the party later on and then there was that huge fight with with Cherisse and Cherisse right Cherisse and and Jacelle because Jacelle came over to cook crabs and then Cherice went upstairs and was like

I don't want anyone coming upstairs and because they came Jacelle went upstairs to be like Cherice what's going on and Then Cherice got mad at her and then they had a feud the whole season and then there was Ash's husband who was like Really he was like he got being on don't you if he was Andrew that's what it was he smacked Andrew's ass and Some guys swing it. Was the guy really the swing guy? He was like, you got beyond, don't you? If he was Andrew, that's what it was. He smacked Andrew's ass and had a bone or frame and then he was they spot him in the gay bar and yeah, they're like your head. I love the gay.

That one bugged me, but I have to say it. Uh, I'm kind of excited for it to come back. And it's really gotten the glass over. I mean, it looks like it's so much better. I don't think there will be any more scenes filmed in front of an outdoor air conditioner. You know, like the air conditioning unit outside. I will never forget that.

I was like, just shooting a whole fight seen in front of an air conditioner. This is crazy. I just hope that Karen Huber continues to draw her eyebrows starting from like her nose and going all the way down to mid cheek. That's all I want. The moving mole.

Yeah, that one, that Karen Lainey, I like that she's coming back and she's like, no, I'm not getting bangs just because everybody made fun of my hairline being in the back of my head. I paid for this faceless. I paid for my hairline to be this far back bitch on keeping it. I love her. Karen Huber cracks me up. I like she's just a big self-righteous bitch, but she is so funny. And I thought Jacelle was super funny. I know you hated Jacelle, but I just thought Jacelle cracked me up every single episode. single level. So I hated because she's one of those, she's the reason I really didn't like the show.

Because she's one of the people who has no qualms just ruining other people's lives just for fun, learn, you know, just to get some screen time. And I know that's kind of part of being a housewife, but not to that level. Like she really went so low to me, she was just a gross person. But I don't know I mean I didn't really see what she does being any worse than anything that some of the other people don't on any of these shows but it really got under your skin I remember that. Yeah I was pissed. So what else is in there being? Let me see you know why don't we say we got three questions left and why don't we just save them for next week?

That's what I say. All right, being close up that buying. I'm gonna close up that Bayeg rod now. And that brings us to the end of another week of Watch what crap is. We did it. Everybody thanks so much for being here. We will be back Monday with Real Housewives of Atlantaers. Yes, so fun.

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