Watch What Crappens - #440 RHOA: Girl, Hi!

Episode Date: April 25, 2017

The second part of the RHOA reunion brings about all sorts of emotions. Even Ronnie takes Kenya's side for once. Or does he? Come listen to Ben and Ronnie break down everything from the "bullying" to the abuse to Matt to Phaedra. It's a big, fun episode. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Actually, it's no, it's me Ben Mandelker and I have something going on my throat. So I have my full on the wind voice today and I've never felt so honored. I'm from the Bander Blender podcast and also BSIBlog.com and joining me in full voice and hopefully Coming off of a wonderful weekend is the lovable and wonderful and hugable Ronnie Karam from trash talk TV.com and the Roseprick special podcast. Hey Ronnie. Well, hello, Bane Would you believe it? I have a new an voice today

You do it's birching on Carol voice. It's I feel like I'm gonna have a Like this this one moment of time where I could do all that real house doesn't New York voices and unfortunately today is Atlanta And right in New Luan song Pick up your place when you're done Pick up your place when you're done. Pick up your place when you're done. That's etiquette, girls. That's etiquette. This is not the Plaza Hotel.

This is Morocco. I have some tea here today to help me along, but we may just have to just have Luan voice the whole hour. If you tinkle when you sprinkle be a sweetie and wipe the city ladies I'm sorry. I have to go see Tommy tune now Would you believe it? I'm your go-seek at Tommy tune right in front of candy bursts Please and thank you. Is it so hard? Thank you, is it so hard?

Now the thing is if there's ever a time that I need my false it's when doing Atlanta because that's my candy impersonation And now it's just gonna sound like a croak. This is what my candy impersonation sounds like See See no RAD I could do the bottom part well. That sounds like Porsche Oh, I do have a Carol Radswell voice. Carol, I can't do it. Carol Radswell voice is just the wind. Do we get a impersonation of candy?

Donald Trump can't win this election. Rally. Rally. Did you notice that part in this reunion episode where they're the kids of Atlanta and then they had candy going Ralee. Ralee. Two times in a row. I know and that's when I like a tear a single tear came down my cheek because I was like I can't do the voice today.

Ralee. Rale. Rale. So, um, why don't we just like jump into this, the second part of the four part never ending reunion. Oh my God. It's all entertaining. I'll tell you that much. I was very entertained. Yeah, I mean, I loved this season and so this reunion, this is when it's okay for them to redo every single part of the season a million times because they have so much happen on this show, I forget half the shit by the end, you know, I agree. It's like, it's like, it's a fun walk down memory lane. Some of the stuff that they show, I'm like, oh, that was this season, I forgot. That was fully, you know, months and months ago when that aired. That was fully months and months ago when that aired. It was, and this one is the longest housewives ever. They give this the most episodes

because it has the most viewers. Yeah. And man, those two or three extra episodes really screw your brain by the end. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. I mean, not only did stuff happen last year, you know, it was 2016, but it was, I mean, this is what episode

24 or something like that. We're almost a half year. We've gone six months practically, which is crazy to think that this show started six months ago. Time flies. It sure does, but it doesn't while it's happening. No, I mean, during the season, I was like, really, do we need to have an episode of Peter driving around a block 20 times. Peter's room. Thinking about houses, thinking about what used to be. Going to miss this house. Go miss it.

Driver. This is where I used to live. This is where I used to take my wife's money and spend it on warehouses. The Uber driver is like look I know that we don't have meters in here. But I'm not going around the fucking block again okay. Get it in this shot or we're done. You can do quite. Actually, here's a little inside pro tip

about you driving for Uber. He actually would want to drive around the block because you earn more money for driving miles and you do for waiting. So there. Oh, you know, you would have liked Peter as a customer. Well, here's another tip. Don't, when you're taking someone else home

and drop yourself off first, don't just add a trip because that costs a ton more money. Yeah. Get out of the car and get a new trip. Those fuckers charged me $25 on Saturday night for going from West Hollywood to my house where you know that is to run you in Canyon. I'm sure. $25?

Yes. Was it over stock suckers and pigs? That's crazy. Wait, where are you? We're pick up place again West Hollywood. Oh, that's crazy. And it wasn't that's great That's something's weird about that. I would complain because I'm a stereo type. That's weird That's really weird Let's get into the real house. Let's get it to the plants. And before I get really upset about my Uber charge, yeah, let's have a surge reunion.

The surge pricing on reunion shade. This podcast will now cost five times the user will fare, which is $0. So we do Starbucks. I mean, Starbucks in the back seat. And you're like, why are you serving this to me? Yeah, people love serving like Starbucks. I think that's one of the only wrapped candies

that are ever in the back seat. It's everywhere. And it smells like, here's the thing. And I don't really like starbursts, but I think we can all agree that even if you like starbursts, they smell gross. Like when you are in a car where someone's just meeting a starburst, it's just like that weird,

like fruity, car-wise. It's stifling smell and you're like, ugh, and it's like it reminds you that this car is full of someone's breath. I don't like that. Yeah, sitting in a car with someone's breath and then getting charged, 25 got $1. Goddamn it.

Let's get to Atlanta. Okay, so we opened where we left off last week, which is Kenya and Port, I mean, Candy and Portia screaming at each other screaming at each other about being supportive on the celebrity apprentice. And the candy cracks me up because she's yelling and crying, but it's about how nice she is. Yeah. It's so different for a house life. I fucking love candy. She's like I want to give money to you. I can't. What you give money $5,000 or so. You didn't want to support. I wanted to support you, Basha.

That's weird today. That's a charity. When are you going to have a lift up Porsche day? When are you going to celebrate me? When is the wild Porsche's here day? Porsche didn't hit anybody today. Yay day. What's up, Array? When six flies can open their doors for Portia when's partial day at six flags No one is gonna be paying to support you had a party support for today

She didn't cut somebody with glass for one day. Let's throw her a party. Oh, also I have to make an announcement. Yeah. I promised somebody on Instagram that I would be nice to Kenya today, because apparently I'm to meet Kenya on the reg. So I'm going to just do a debate experiment and pretend that I'm always on Kenya's side. I'll stay along this last.

When it's long as we're sharing our promises, this has nothing to do with anything, but I wanted to give my cousin Perry a shout out because she sent me her always perfect sheet. Remember we talked about that? That Ramona had the, remember that, Ramona was like at the always perfect sheet and I was like, wait, that's my cousin's.

She's my cousin Perry sent me one. So thanks Perry. Everyone to go buy it always perfect sheet for my cousin Perry. Always perfect sheet, okay. Always perfect sheet's always perfect sheet from my cousin Barry always perfect sheet. Okay. I always perfect sheets always perfect Sorry everyone Continue on my self in my always perfect sheets and the always perfect seat war. I'm on Kenya side

Kenya's she is she is the human version of an always perfect sheet Yeah, well sometimes you, we get in habits. And if I don't like somebody, then it's really hard for me to change and then start liking them. And so I thought, maybe I have just been too harsh on Kenya, because it's not the first time I've heard it this season. And so maybe there's like a place in my heart that I can't just, I'm looking at it wrong. And I need to look at it again. It just rejudge, you know, rejudge. Yeah, I mean, it's always good to recalibrate your judgments, but I'm also remember it's only housewives.

It's not like a family member. And one of the fun parts about the show is like picking your favorites. And like it depends on what sort of view or you are. Like some people, you pick your favorites or you pick the ones you hate the most. And that's just what the way they are. And the rest of the series is through that lens and no matter what you're always gonna love this person you'll find excuses to love them no matter what

you always hate this person, you'll always twisted to hate them and that's the fun of it. Some people like to just sort of like change things up like every new season is a new like deck of cards and we're gonna see how everything lands and choose to pick their favorites and that's fine. I think it's because they put Florida in our water and no one can remember things.

That's the conspiracy theory. Ooh. Cleaner teeth worst memory. I don't even remember how yellow my teeth used to be. Thanks, Florida. Yeah. So after this this tip about this lovely print is settles down, there's, you know, talk about Portia being an anger management

and Andy wants to know if now that Portia has been in an anger management, do Cynthia and Kenya deserve what they got in retrospect, A.K.A. the kick on the boat and the brawl at the reunion. Now that she's at anger management, did they really deserve to be assaulted like that? And Portia's like, well, I apologize for that. My Portia voice is really more jacked than usual today. I'm just going to not even try today. It's just too fun. It's too fun not to try everyone. I'm sorry. Yeah, well, that's good. You got

at least the line out because that's all she said she said she's like i didn't apologize for that can you go no she didn't and then they show a clip of force of going i admit that dragging you across the floor is my responsibility which is an apology for Porsche i think i mean yeah technically the words were that wasn't the way i wanted to react as a grown woman meaning you i acknowledge that that happened I'm like I acknowledge it you put a bowl horn in my face and forced me to drag you across the stage

Yeah, it really wasn't an apology. It was I mean it the sentiment wasn't apology But it was not a literal apology and on this show unless you hear the word sorry It's like all bets are off. Yeah, and that's why Fadre says, just say it on camera. So it's on record. She said it was on camera. And then they showed that clip, which really didn't win her any games, but, you know, I mean, I really think can you deserves an apology? You know, you bring a bullhorn into a place and a magic wand.

You're just trying to have fun. I mean, so it among the head a couple of times with the bullhorn. You're so shady. You are so shady, Ronnie. I'm not being sarcastic. I'm being completely real. I'm seeing it from a different side, you know. And you're just trying to de-stuff for the show. It doesn't mean she deserves to get beat up for Christy. This is like when Tamra and Kretchen became friends for a season. It's just all weird. You know the Bob's gonna fall at. Everyone just wait. The end of the episode, Ronnie's gonna finally break and be like, she's a fucking whore. Now I'm more sympathetic to Kenya.

I mean, I think I feel like I was thinking about it. You know, we actually told this to Laughler when we saw Laughler, but it really applies more to Kenya. Kenya is essentially the Christian cavalry of real housewives of Atlanta. You know, Neenie came in, she was Lauren Conrad, she was ruling the roost, she left Kenya took over and you know, she's sort of like Kenya is more calculating, she's, she's nastier, but she's the perfect second act for the show.

And so I will always admire Kenya for that. All right, there you go. There you go everyone. So he said then they start arguing about money again and he goes Well, hey look Fade I mean Porsche did anybody else give you money besides can't the average or goes I gave her 10,000 Please okay now to a thousand files to sort probably Legal these days, so could you do something with these?

I gave her 10,000 pesos, which could possibly buy a slice of bread. I got her some monopoly money. Oh, should I sell to do monopoly? And then everybody starts yelling at each other and porch it because when we get together, this is a dynamic I deal with. Yeah. we get together this is the dynamic ideal with yeah and then and then of course it only takes a few seconds later for the dynamic to be like the women bully portion portion is bullied when the women get together

they bully portion is just like when she was in high school and she was bullied and i'm like you know what no i'm sorry this is this is full bullshit portion you know portion i love you portion i really do but all of them are full of bullshit because he says are they are they I'm sorry. This is this is full bullshit portion. You know, Porsche, I love you, Porsche. I really do. But all of them are full of bullshit because he says are they, are they picking on Porsche? She goes, yeah, they said bullying.

And when, uh, when can you go? Well, was it bullying when she chased her assistant out of that restaurant? And she's like, you were not there for that. And, uh, then she has say, he has say, yeah, then she tries to pull out. I was bullied in school. And then everybody's like, well, so is I. Okay, housewives, you're telling me because I think the ones who said so was I were Cynthia and Kenya. Really, the two models. Yeah. No one feels for you.

You guys stop it. Okay. Yeah. No one wants you even to show up to a fucking bullying meeting. You know that Christina Aguilaris song you are beautiful And every single way it's all ugly people or like people with some malformation or something show go ahead and show up to a party with one of those people and Start the whole I'm only beautiful on the inside. You get your ass kicked out that music video real quick

Yeah, yeah, because that's the thing like I am very sick of people truly, you know, you know, morphing the idea of what it is, bastardizing the idea of what it is to be a bully. To be bullied is like, you know, every day someone's like taunting you, making fun of something that you can't change, pushing you down a staircase, like giving you a wedgie, shoving, you know, throwing stuff of your face, stealing shit from you, that's bullying, okay? Wow, thanks for the montage of my childhood. Feel great.

Well, you still had that, because you know, Aguilara song in your head is so cruel of me. Ronnie's sitting there crying like that, like the idiot in the smoking commercial. Yeah, no kidding. What the hell? But for real, that's like, that's me as what bullying is. Yeah, it's not people trying to grab your ass a lot. Yeah, or even like in the modern context, bullying is like people being crazy on Twitter

and just sending nasty things like, you're a cut fitness. Oh my God. It's like unmasked, you know? Could you imagine if we were born in the Thomas Twitter, I would have probably, yeah, I would have just changed my name to Faggot McGee and like about a house in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. Yeah. Faggot Herman McGee. But the thing is, my bullying name, I'll be like, fine, I'll live under

the name Faggot. Just stay in this. Ooh. But when you have like seven women and, you know, you're all sparring just because they sparred back or just because they disagree with you, that does not make them a bully. Just because you yap and yap and someone's like, ah, Porsche shut up, they're not bullying you. They're giving you some common sense. Yes, in Cynthia and Kenya, you were not bullied in school.

Okay, I don't know. I guess that no one had like the perfect time growing up and yes, everybody was miserable, but trust, you did not get bullied. Yeah. Stupid, Cynthia. Me too, shut up. Probably cause your weight didn't fit yet.

Yeah. I somehow miss Cynthia saying that she got bullied in school. That seems crazy. It was two of them who were on that couch. You were like me too. And I can't imagine that Candy would say she's been bullied I mean I can imagine Mal getting bullied because she talks like she just was bullied five seconds ago Thanks for that locker in my face

Yeah, no, I was actually pretty comfortable in that locker, so you know, thanks for stuffing me in it I like our Mal is very similar to our Robin from Potomac. I think it's because they're similar in real life. No, no, thanks for, yeah, thanks for dunking my head in the toilet. Yeah, I need it. I need a wash. People like that were bullied. Yeah, mall was bullied. Mall was bullied.

Mall was bullied. Robin was not bullied because she wound up with an NBA star as her boyfriend by the agent. It treats her like a real princess. I think that someone who takes that kind of emotional abuse for a really long time was bullied. Yeah. I said it.

I don't have to be on her side. But Kenya, I could see, because Kenya, like the level of sensitivity in Kenya, you know, like she can be angry, but then admit when she's wrong. And that shows someone who's been through a lot of bullying. I actually would not be shocked if Kenya was bullied. Just the way she acts is basis is she seems like the type of person who is bullied and then now she'd like pays it forward. You know, I mean, don't forget, this is, her mom didn't even

want her in her life, so you know that that probably had some weird scars and people probably picked on her because of that. You know, like people do today. Yeah, like now. Like now. Like our show. Our host is Bill Swampily. Adding, reopening psychological scars forever. Yeah, the reason I do this kind of stuff, and the reason it's like one of the only things I can do consistently, I think is because I got my ass kicked a lot. You know, that does definitely breed, where you're like tap dancing so people don't beat you up.

That's basically what crap is, thanks everybody. Welcome to my origin story. You know, it's weird, I never got beaten up. Like I never, I felt like I was bullied when I was like, you know, in like middle school, but I never was beaten up. It was just taunting. That was enough for me. But I'm appreciative that I was never punched or launched my arm.

I was stolen or any of that stuff. I was got the ass whipped. I was such a girl. When you were a gay, carry my books in my front of my arms instead of on the side of my arms. And that was the big tip off apparently. That I was just alone. Oh, that is really gay. Yeah, I was really, really gay.

That's like how Molly Ringwald would hold her trapper keeper. Show me. Yeah, that's where I learned it. I was like, oh my god, I am pretty in pink. Yeah, I remember it was a thing to wear my book bag. You have to wear your book bag with only one strap. You know, because that's the cool way because you do two straps as ridiculous. So it's like, Oh, yeah, so it's got to hang over one side, which is ridiculous because it's bad for your back. And it's more supportive to have to. It's more comfortable

to have to. And honestly, if you really think about it, when you have it hanging over the side, it actually looks more ladylike. So there. But speaking of weight on your shoulders, you look at like Kenya and she needs to because you have to only get scoliosis on you like you have to get it in the middle of your back. You know, like if she only had one of those in French, she'd be like hurting on the only one side. Everybody don't use one strap.

I don't care how good it looks. Think of them as implants on your back. PSA. It's a PSA. Two straps at all times. Two straps, trapper keeper under the right arm. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Get the earplates.

Yeah, make sure your implants are even on both sides. Or you're going to get scoliosis unevenly. And it's going to hurt worse than regular scoliosis. Yeah. You're well, it's boob scoliosis. Booblyosis. So, baby is this. Yeah, it's boob scoliosis Boooblyosis So fader is this well, I wasn't a witness to that scene, but fader is only talking in court terms

Yeah, and I not even she's not even talking in like very high-level court terms She's basically repeating the stuff that I learned sooner. You're of high school when I took law class so we're all coming back to high school today. Everyone's all about our childhoods. And I took law with Mr. Clinchy and we learned things like hearsay and witness and voire deer, you know, and like that's all that she's saying, like the most basic law terms. Because she said hearsay about a million times.

Yeah. Well, I heard that, you know, I heard that like oxyclean really removes stains. We'll have you see it here say that is cold witness tempering. So then we get a clip of how mean Kenya, you know, or not how mean Matt West to Kenya. And we get the clip of him in that strip mall and the hallway, the hallway of that strip mall, having his breakdown with his dimples, angry, bald head, going,

you'll be deputative and fundamentally to set deals. Like, have him and me from Vanderpemp rules been DMing? I really, I really feel like this is, this is the impersonation I can do today. I think I can do a madden madam impersonation of my Luan voice You had a lot of week. Why do we have sex in my car the other night then if you didn't want it You're fundamentally deceptive on every level So Andy is

Half lawyer and half therapist in this because he's like, can you Matt never laid hands on you. Is that clear? Yeah. It's like let's get this straight for legal. Yeah. Because the way that you guys start talking about your abuse grows exponentially as we go along.

It goes from like emotional abuse. You would think that Kenya was put in a blender or something by the end of this. Well, it could have had that. I mean, let's bring on the garage to tell us how it feels. Well, the garage was like, well, I mean, my life has been tough. There was that time I killed that woman from scream, but I thought that was going to be I thought those days were over. I thought Rose McGowan would be the end of my times.

Any for Mark and Saw asks why you would take abuse when you're supposed to be a strong woman and and Kenya's like what woman hasn't stayed in a relationship too long? I am every woman, it's all in me. Yeah, that was like a very like beauty, passion answer. It's just like, am I right? Everyone, we've all stayed in relationships too long. We're more like Tina, where's my girl Tina Turner? I don't want to find no more. What's love got to do, got to do with it.

Honestly, Andy, who needs a heart when a heart can be broken? Am I right? Oh, good. So then Cynthia, it's like, well, isn't it kind of odd that Cynthia would go talk to Matt after seeing his abusive behavior? And she's like, well, Andy, child, the reason I did that It's because my house

wasn't closed yet and I didn't have enough storyline to keep me going. She's like, alright, someone told me that Matt had a real good deal on kitchen countertops and, you know, I've just been in this kitchen island sort of space and I just wanted to get a good discount. And then I thought, oh, that's some No. And Candy says, he's greater cameras black. That's too much. I like that. That's where the line is drawn. Candy's like, he ruined her cameras.

Well, that is scary. That's like a weird sleeping with the enemy thing to do. See? Now, cameras. But the grudge, like kicking in the garage door, having all these anger things where he's losing his temper, punching in windows, but it's just that it's just the camera, you know, well, the camera, because it means that he's going to do some shit that he

doesn't want to document it. That's why that's why it's so scary. He's going to go like pummel her in her face. I guess my point is these ladies have a very high tolerance for the shit they'll take before they get mad. Oh yeah. I mean, you even angrily eat an extra croissant at my house with fuckin' attic. Yeah. Yeah. If you break a window, I mean, listen.

I'm caught up on big little lies, okay. I know the way these things go. All right. You punch a wall. It's all downhill. It's all down the stairs from there. Oh my God. Don't start me on that show because I'll spoil it. That's all right. We'll talk about it in a bonus episode where there will be spoilers. Oh, enough. So, uh, thing. So then, yeah, yeah. No, I think at this point point he asks Shiree, right? He says Why would Shiree say that Kenya provokes people when Shiree herself is a victim of abuse or someone someone from like

Which it all asked that and this is when Shiree and can you just start getting into a big old fight and And basically Shiree is you know, it's interesting because Kenya is really trying to warp Shere's words. And Shere is just saying, listen, all I was saying was, I don't understand why you were so scared to travel with Porsche when you were there with Matt who's breaking down your windows and spray-panding your cameras. And then you have, and then all of a sudden, Porsche's the concern?

Yes, and then Kenya says, you just stick up for abusive men just like you didn't Hawaii. Yeah. And all right, Miami. And let's remember back to that because Kenya was trying to bone that guy.

And then he was like, that's what all started. Again, it was, it was Kenya provoking someone. Now that said, I'm on Kenya side because a man should never, and this is true. I actually am on Kenya side. I'm not just taking it.

Because yeah, no matter what, a man can't be like, okay, well, I'll break your garage now. Like, no, you can't, can you just an annoying ass sometimes, but it's because she was bullied and put up with an abusive relationship, okay? No, I think we all agreed that Kenya is provocative. Okay, she doesn't get to get a free pass. She is provocative and she pokes at the bear. But the bear does not get off the hook because the bear is not allowed to put its paws on Kenya or her garage door or anything she got from Home Depot.

Okay, it's all wrong. Like, you know how provocative she is, but she would be in a better position if she weren't so provocative and I'm not blaming the victim, I'm just saying in life, you know, like, you know, there's certain things, there's certain situations that are avoidable. And we all know that, that's not blaming the victim, but it's like, okay, knowing what I know, I'm an assess the situation, and I'm gonna do something to not be in it. And Kenya is, that's not one of her strong suits, I think.

Well, you said poking the bear. I mean, if there was a news story about someone going up and poking a bear, and then the bear eats their head off, everybody would be like, well, why were they poking the bear? Yeah. Now, that's not the same as human beings, because a man should fucking know better.

But you just said poking a bear, and I'm like, well, I would kind of be on the side of the person, you know, I would be on the bear side. Because I'm like, who's dumb enough to poke a bear? Well, I think the whole thing with that argument when it comes to these situations, the issue that people have is that it gives the man a total pass.

Like, this is the way the man's gonna act. That's the what he does, and you should have known better. And the man has, there's no accountability. The man doesn't have to change his behavior. He's just a wild man, and he's been provoked. That's bullshit. And that's why when it comes to humans versus an actual bear, it's a grayer area.

Matt is a crazy man, or he has issues, or PTSD, or or PTSD or steroids or whatever and he's got a control he should not be breaking windows. Yeah, and if there is a lesson to be learned here, don't date a bear. I mean, Matt is pretty obviously a bear. Exactly. I mean, I am a bear, which really sucks. But you know what I mean?

Matt's still hot. Yeah, I'm a literal sense. Damn it. It's really hard being on Kenya side No, it's true. So I think the lesson learned here is It's it's Matt's Matt should not be breaking windows. He should never lay a hand on anyone no matter how provocative they are that will always be The aggressor's fault Kenya though should be smart enough to get out of that situation Well, these these this argument with both of these women is funny because the reason it's funny,

the reason it's funny is because they're both reframing everything that's happened in the past to see who can be the biggest spokesperson for domestic violence. Kenya came out with some PSA or something. Shoray, I'll probably go on tour of Mary Ottball rooms for the next year. Well, here's the difference though. So like when Kenya says to Shoriel, you are mocking abuse. You know, there's the cynical side of all this.

You know, we've been watching these shows for a long time. I feel like we were all pretty media savvy at this point. We understand the way celebrity works to certain degrees. That you can't escape the feeling that maybe one of the reasons, like Kenya stood in this state in this situation, was that people would look at her more sympathetically or she would have a cause.

Whereas with Shirei, as we see later in the episode, that's not coming in my mind, my perception of it, it was not coming from a calculated position where she wants to capitalize off of it. She might capitalize off of it, but it looked like it was something she really, it was coming from a deep hurt place, whereas Kenya, you sort of got the feeling like she was, you know, putting herself in a situation perhaps, you know, so that way she would have a storyline or a thing to talk about or a sympathetic angle, which if so, it worked on me because I wasn't pathetic to work during it. Yeah.

Well, yeah, Sheree is like seriously crying and then Kenya is like outing her for her abuse. Yeah, and super uncool. And I didn't really realize if that's what was happening at the time, I don't think, because I would have been furious. Well, Andy said, he was like, Candy, why did you reveal Sharade's abuse? And then Porsche just goes, taunting! Yeah. And Sharade, you know, Sharade does did something in that situation that I think she seemed to realize in this because once seeing it all back and then reading Twitter,

which is like the most honest brutal opinions ever. I think she realized I was doing that. You know, I was saying, even though she wanted minute now, she was basically saying that. She's like, you are provo- you provoke him. You know, you provoke everybody and then you wonder why they- why they hit you. Like you provoke Vorsha and then you wonder why she dragged you across the floor. And that's very typical of abuse victims. Because when you're in a situation like that, you come up with ways to justify it.

Like a lot of abuse victims will say, yeah, but it's not all his fault. I do provoke him or it takes two to tango and et cetera. And it takes a long time to really untie people from that and make them realize, no, fighting is one thing, but beating like physical abuse is another thing and that's never your fault and you don't ever take that, you know. Well, I was interesting and this is not a spoiler at all, but something from Big Little

lies, there was a moment where one of the characters had been dealing with situations like this and she said, you know, the moment after it happens, that's when she has all the power. And I thought that was like a really interesting perspective I'd never thought of before heard. That informs a lot of things. That could inform behavior in these situations. Yeah. It's like when they're groveling in apologetic, then that's when they're the nicest.

Yeah, exactly. That's when you have the ability to, when the user is groveling, that's when you control them essentially, because you are allowing them to come back, et cetera, et cetera. So I mean, that could be, you know, a motivating factor, but why maybe Kenya provokes so much. Oh, good. We're just gonna totally just dissect her.

I know. So she's been bullied. She's been being, we're basically falling into everything that she wants us to think of her. I know. This was the weirdest episode to always be on Kenya's sign. Um, it's kind of hard. So she said, um, Andy says, well, why would you reveal, why would you reveal Shreys Abuse? And Keny goes, I didn't reveal it in that way. Love how they just really frame everything. Kenny is the best at this, by the way.

She is. That's why I think. She's a whole new way that she studied it herself and come up with different arguments and everything. No, that's why I'm saying she's like the Kristin Cavalar because she's so good at this thing that she does, that as much as you hate her, you just have to respect and love her on a certain level. I mean, she does that like as much as you hate her you just have to kind of respect and love her on a certain level. I mean she is just like, she's like the whiz of just

like spinning things around and even if you never believe it the way she can do it so effortlessly is amazing. Well, Fadra is in her Fadra defense mode this whole time and we know we have four episodes and it's going to get bad with Fadra. So I thought maybe they would hold that off to the last episode. Nope. Here she comes and she's like so over it and acts like she doesn't want to be there. And she goes, yes, you did.

You even cracked like a duck. Well, that was because I know you have to have seen the season together, but it's just hilarious to hear a grown woman say that you even cracked lack of duck Thank you guys. Yeah, cuz she's a hypocrite my ducks like all ducks red from eating ducks like Donald duck I mean God, he just just shut the fuck up already Duck tails there's a pack of lies. Yeah, I don't I don't believe there's any adventure in Duckburg. How were the duck? Let me take some washer.

All that money and Scrooge McDuck's vault, that's borrowed. Okay, he borrowed it for the shoot. It's been four closed. It belongs to Magic at a spell now. So when when Saray and Yorrie said this part, but just to get me back on track with my note charade says well I don't want to talk about Mrs. you don't want to talk about webby or You know I guess I just shocked at how if you duck references I have it's you know all you need is duck tails Yeah, I went there, but um how were the duck and then

Donald the duck I mean I'm pretty much done with duck. I don't like the camp think of any more ducks. There's like the duck that the penguin wrote on and Batman returns. Yeah, you see. That's grasping. And you're like, remember that duck that the penguin wrote, it's like it's over, it's over. I'm happy to stay in duckburg.

That's like, I don't need to go into how. I'm happy just to go through all those ducks. There are a lot of ducks here. Quacks lack a duck and walks like a duck. Its name is Kenya. Ooh, burn, Pedro, burn. Life is like a hurricane here in Atlanta. Life is like a duck.

You never know when it's gonna quack like Kenya. Oh God. I love when Pedro just starts coming out with nonsense, which she does the rest of the show. Yes, I, yes, I, yes, I, and Fadre just starts coming out with nonsense. Which she does the rest of the show. I can't say, I can't say, I can't say. Exhibit A, y'all know. Duck quack. Duck quack.

I just feel like she always imagines herself at the scopes trial or something like that. Like in Herat the Wind, right? Like fanning, like a hot Georgia courtroom with, you know, everyone's fanning and wearing white hats. Yes, say. So, can you just say, I mean, she's saying, well, she's too afraid to portion.

Then why hasn't she scared a man? Why can't she come on the trip with Portia? When she scared a man, which was not really the fight, because the fight just, the fight in that restaurant was Kenya provoking uh Portia, Portia legit getting pissed Portia running away and Kenya following her out yelling and screaming at her and then Sheree trying to stick up for Portia basically. Right. But the reframe is that you know she's just trying to help her with her abuse or whatever and then then Kenya says, well, it's a fine line between what's provoking and what's not.

And maybe a fine line, but that's pretty clear line too. It's a pretty clear line. Of course it goes. Reach, girl, you reach it. Yeah. Oh God. So then I think that then there's questions about was Matt hired for the show because he posted on Instagram that he was and Of course Kenya totally denies it, but you know, I'm sure she threw some money his way. I'm sure

But then he's crazy Instagram. It's his cycle of abuse Instagram. It's his cycle of abuse His cycle of abuse is always an expro to And he says well, did you sleep with him in that truck and she goes Yes, unfortunately That happened and then Andy's like so you have a new boyfriend. She's like that was between you and me and the Aka she totally told him so that way he could say it on the reunion. Yeah.

Because Andy and Ken, you're just sitting there talking in normal life. He's like, hey, Kenya, it's Andy. Oh, I'm on the way to the store, Andy. Well, that's cool, but Georgia from Georgia wants to know. Did you fuck Matt and that truck? I'm a new boyfriend, Andy. I don't care

well she probably told a tomb as like a secret and she knows that he is such you know he's such a piece of work that of course he's he would announce it on the show and be like oh but matt said it on his instagram so did he say he left three magnam's in your dresser is that the new thing that he said what did he say he'd left three magnums in your dresser? Is that the new thing that he said? What did he say to her? He said, well, he also said on Instagram that he'd left three magnums in your dresser.

And she says, oh, well, that's him. That is something he would post in his cycle of Instagram abuse. And then he said, and he also posted a happy women's day. Thank you. We're poor. Women's Wednesday, women's crush ones, the WCW hashtag, women crush ones, they have a Porsche. She's like, thanks, no thanks.

I just want to clarify though that the magnum's that that Matt left in Porsche's dresser were actually just like those ice cream bars called magnums. It was DVDs of season one, two, and three of magnum. He's like, I'm going to get a real, I'm going to get gonna back real bad. I mean, I've not seen my screen in the dresser Let's see how much Kenny is by his happiness when she's got to put something together with only her brains and a wit Let's see us she likes it. I leave three very large bottles of wine back in a dresser. I Left you three paper clips a condom and a piece of paper make a gun out of it. Hey, hey, hey, that's it. She could do Matt. That's the A team

Matt that's my guy for Why you always why you always told me again? Yeah I'm sorry. I called you a fool, but you But you provoked me. The truth is that Matt only watched Cagney and Lacy growing up. How dare you, Kenya. I watch man cops do. Oh, good. So then it still continues. The next question. And he just loves rolling around an abuse mud. He always has. Yeah, any time it comes to abuse he asked abuse questions like 20 times in a row. So he said, can you know, Patricia from Patel make wants to know, how come you're always

having an excuse for Matt's abuse, but you rag on Porsche and she said like, can you go, well, they're very similar. Yes, similar. They're very similar. But I love and I've never even been friends with Porsche. So that's why Porsche called me Miss America. It's like the things I'll never forget. Yeah. The line was crossed that day.

She says, well, you know, he tried to call me on New Year's, but my phone blocked his number. So he called me from a different number. And he said, I spent New Year's in church praying. And I said, stay positive. Which that's so nice. That is, that is really nice. I guess my question is about as hepatitis results though. Stay positive. Don't get that healed. Spread that hepatitis everywhere. Deliz you spread. Deliz. So she says, are you over him? And she goes, I haven't even thought about him since Thanksgiving. I'm so specific. I know that's a very specific thing. She was like, I was spreading butter on my Hawaiian roll and I thought, Matt, I was throwing

a turkey through a window and I thought, God, I wish Matt were here to do this for me. I was spray painting my mashed potatoes black and I thought gosh I really miss Matt these days. Oh man. I thought on Thanksgiving I want to cuddle with this blanket but it might have a disease on it. I wonder how Matt's doing. I was having sex with Matt and I thought gosh I wonder how Matt is. I I was having sex with Matt and I thought, gosh, I wonder how Matt is. I love that he says, when are you gonna stop hiring actors?

Because, and notice that she never denies that. She only says, I didn't hire Matt. Yeah, I mean, she literally did. I mean, he was her personal trainer and fixed her house. That's true. I think as long as she's gonna hire guys, I mean, I think she did a great job with Matt. It's much better than Walter the tow truck driver. Okay. That guy wasn't even attractive.

At least Matt has a great body and he's crazy and he's fun TV, you know? And he, you know, he breaks windows, you know, he makes an impact literally on glass. I'm going to bust this glass down right now. He just goes to show us, don't throw stones if you live in the glass garage. It's like poetry, guys. Exactly. Plus, I mean, his top of the head wrinkles were so cute when he got sad.

I like that you can like literally suck her angry mat onto any part of glass when he's, when he's in his style. It's like, okay, you're mad, then you stick your head on this refrigerator until you figure it out, mister. I like that his eyes are really close together, so when he gets mad and his eyebrows go up, he sort of just looks like a very confused animal. Like a confused, extremely dangerous animal. Like, and like, like, he looks like an emotionally disturbed jaguar or something. Something that's like sort of cute on an nature special, but you wouldn't want to be near it in real life.

Yeah, my sister wouldn't say about one of her toddlers when they were younger. She said, um, and now I see why they come out so small, because if they were adult-sized, acting like the psychopath idiots that they act like when they're babies, we'd all be dead. And that is kind of Matt. He's like a big giant baby. We're like, Matt, I'm trying to speak rationally with you.

And he's like, I'm the man to leave this place. I'm about to leave that place. You never want to end that. I feel like Matt as a baby was very resentful to his mother. He's like, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, you thought the mental limit didn't be related to me. It's the second, my dead adding up limit.

Are you saying that you did not allow me to suck on your tip. I have a nice breakfast. Well, that's a convenient narrative. So then, can you just give an answer that I'm glad she gave, where she said, I'm embarrassed to the women out there who are victims, because I sent the wrong message. You need to leave it the first sign of aggression, or you could end up dead. And then the camera's like zoom in on charay

Yeah, my guys geez. Yeah, the woman be so the next thing is Fadre bomb threats. Yes Yes, so It's a whole segment about Fadre and I really like the Fadre montage because you got to see all the shady shit that you did this best year and there was a lot of shit I mean I forgot that there was a bomb threat. She has a bomb threat in her storyline her arc involved a bomb Celebrity beef you never know if you're just gonna end up on TMZ or trending on Twitter or in court I'm Matt Bella-Sive and I'm Sydney battle and we're the hosts of Wonder e's new podcast Bella Sive. And I'm Sydney Battle, and we're the host of Wonder Woman's new podcast, Dis and Tell.

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He walked into the building they said how are you and he said bomb everybody freaked out. It's another example of people not understanding the language of the black male in America. It's not his fault that he happened to walk into the office building singing La Bomba and singing it incorrectly and causing massive security scare. It's just a very catchy song that he has a version of on his CD. He remixed Dong to Dong Dong Dong and people thought he was saying bomb. It's a sad state of affairs for the remix artist in America. DJ Mustard has never been so villainized. So it wasn't only the bomb obviously it was everything and they added in the pregnancy and he's like, well, one who lied about her pregnancy due date or whatever.

And he goes, you get people guessing. So then they show this montage and his first question back is, so what is the current status of your divorce? And she goes, goes well I am divorced officially but he's appealed again and he said well isn't he engaged I mean why is he contesting if he's engaged because he's contesting money he wants more money why do you think he's contesting yeah Fadre says that she's already paid him a hundred thousand dollars I know this is what happens when two idiots get married, you know? Yeah, and that is a low amount really

Yeah, I mean how yeah, he gave he was a sperm donor for two babies So I think that he gave two babies. That's worth more than a hundred right and they're really really cute babies They are really cute. They're like that's like girl, that is priceless and are really cute. They're like, that's like, girl, that is priceless. And so can you basically, she's saying she's officially divorced, he's going to still try and contest and get a better judgment. And then Andy tries to move on to why are you so secret about your dating life? Do you have something to hide? And she goes, there is nothing to hide. You can, what

she's saying, you can hook me. Oh, you can hook me up if you'd like to and he says wish tomorrow more And then they show a clip of some are more like licking her chin or something on watching happens Yeah, I was just the entire time being like why am I watching this? Yeah, me too. I don't even know why I said I was just like in these reunions. I'm like a court reporter I'm just like yeah me So then Andy is like well Maria from lollipop junction, Minnesota says was a line cross when mama joins visited a lawyer in candy Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh- I immediately nipped that in the bud and was like absolutely yes And I would have I would have I would have been ha if our phadra I've been happy to have heard that sort of response That I can't do but phadra you know phadro didn't really take it that way phadra was like well I think Joyce's talent has an investigator be better served investigating what's going on at OLG

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going to be invalid in a week. Like you really think Candy's not going to open her restaurant. You know it's going to be open. So why are you slamming her? It just makes you look like a damn fool. No, she's going to at least open it for a week. Well, I thought that Fadre was going to come with some allegations. Even if they're gonna be fake, I thought she'd be like, well, I thought Mama Truss might look into that, considering all the health code violations of all the rats that are working in the kitchen, you know, serving food to French critics. And like, no, Pedro, you're talking about retitouille and that's not happening. Like, I thought she would at least come, but instead she was just like, it's not-

Maybe if your chef wasn't climbing to the top of the- What is- oh, the Iful Tower in Paris, Paris France he'd have enough time to concentrate on his soup maybe if your chef were less concerned trying to kill that little adorable crab in his kitchen you can make a good soup flavor once in a while by the way one of the best animated openings ever is Radaatouille. I never saw it. Climbing to the top of the Eiffel Tower. It's visually amazing. Everybody rent it just for the first five minutes.

What a film. What a film, Rattatouille. Rattouille will be a guest judge on next season's Top Chef. Yeah. Did you mean to put so much? Whatever I can't think of. Rattatouille on Top Chef. He'll be like, I own this soup.

And they're like, okay, today you get to make any soup that you'd like and he makes rap tattooing gets kicked off So that's so talk chef It's just like you made right right at you like you know, we want something different from you. That's all Did you mean to bore my tongue? Did you mean to put in so many herbs to provance? That was what I was trying to think of before when I messed up my own joke everyone. That was what I was trying to think of before when I messed up my own joke everyone. That's what it was. Herbs to Provence gets me

every time. Should have provanced your herbs before they decided to open a dirty filthy restaurant for Atlanta to enjoy. I'm not sure I could trust a restaurant that gets their herbs all the way from France. That's not very

American is it. So then they got into this weird thing where they're talking over each other about the restaurant. Fetras insisting that this restaurant's never gonna open and Candy goes, we're opening this week sweetheart. I know you've been calling the city. Yeah, Candy starts actually getting in touch with her little inner mom, Joyson thing because she starts talking a little bit like the streets are saying She's like say now They're she's going to sit and

And we was like I know you around there asking around because she has friends in city. Oh Yeah, you're friends I'm starting to get my candy falsetto back. It's warming up my instrument. It's opening it up with getting my falsed back. See? No. RAD! So this is when my favorite part of the reunion happensadre goes, girl making fun of her. Yeah. And I just looped that all night long. Girl, girl, girl, girl.

So Candy starts grilling Fadre about Johnny, as an example of how vindictive Fadre is. She's saying that Fadre would be calling around trying to get dirt on the restaurant. And she's vindictive as evidenced by the fact that she entertained these meetings with Johnny, the stupid wedding plan or slash assistant. And then I just love that Candy is making fun of Fadera and her math, saying that according

to Fadera's estimations, Candy only paid Johnny $2.30 an hour. And Candy just goes, what's all the math you're doing? And I wonder if you ain't winning no cases. Because it's all about math. Yeah. Your honor, my client is not guilty because 25 plus 3 equals 5. Sidebar. Wait a minute.

Sidebar verdict. You'll say here, say. Division division. Statute, statute. Algebra protractor, you want to. Gavville, Gavville Baylor. So then she goes, well, you can't add enough to pay your employees. And then, you know, this is why Fadre is the most hated probably of all the housewives because calling City Hall to try and block permits for candy is the biggest dick move ever. And I totally believe she did that.

Yeah. I mean, you have to believe that she did that. And then it moves into not paying Johnny, which was ridiculous. That whole thing was ridiculous. And Fadre knew it was ridiculous. Yeah. She knew. And it sounds like we're not even getting into it yet.

Because Andy was like, guys, guys, guys, we'll get into that later. Guys, guys, guys, guys, I love when things don't go Andy's way. And he gets his eyebrows go up. And he's like, guys, like, he really can't control these women. And he looks stressed out. I mean, the looks on his face the whole time. He's just like, it's like the one reunion that he doesn't get high before Because he knows he's gonna have to talk too much. It's a bit of tension

So then candy is essentially saying that Fadre just wants to cause drama for her at all at all times and Fadre this is one of my favorite parts Fadre goes goodbye. You figure that important and candy goes girl. Hi girl. Hi. Yeah, I do. I was like that was an amazing clap back girl. Andy Hey girl. Hi So Andy says when you know mama Joyce came for you at that OLG tasting thing and candy pulled her away and made her stop Did you appreciate her doing at least that? And Fadre says, it was nice, but my mother don't do that.

And the, you know, but the people around Candy are a lot of stone me. Do whatever, which is true. I mean, her mama Joyce comes on there and just does everything she can to bring down Fadre. But to be fair. She also did that to her own son-in-law. So I think it's one thing I think it's one thing for Mama Joyce to do it. I do think it's not terribly great that

That that candy's employees also do it. I think that like Don Juan getting in the middle of it Carmen Well, Carmen's her best friend, but still Don Juan. Like last year when, when Canyon and Fajor sort of had broker to piece, it was Don Juan who hyped up Candy against Fajor again. And I just think that if you're really trying to, you know, move forward, if your employees start talking about your friendships, no matter how close you are with your employees, doing it on camera, you just got it. You got to shut it down. Yeah. And Candy says, she controls everything like Porsche. And Porsche goes, I don't think she control me.

Fadres like Ptidys Allen. She's like, XO, Pedro I report to just jumps. What are you that? There's a special button combination. The page is like up, up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B.A.s, leg, start. I have 30 lives. So, I'm ara and this little Porsche in Conn, as plaz one of the people in Contra reference right there. So, and these next question is like,

Lisa from Lazahatchee, Lazahala wants to know. That's all they have a great Diner there, the Lazahatchee, Lazahala Diner. I don't know enough geography to keep me going through all these reunions at the same time it's like ten reunions a month right now

but tanya from bubble face falls calorado well um why did you hire security after you said you weren't scared of your client and phadier goes i didn't hire a bodyguard it was security doesn't everyone have security like there's a huge difference come on now and everyone's like Air Force one staff on there you have the whole secret service following you around and like Chuck E.G. starts yeah I'm like it's like doesn't everyone have

security when we travel and just all the other one were like uh no and then candy says well see she says she's on a bodyguard like now we're gonna go through the semantics between a bodyguard and security okay yeah one doesn't fuck you yeah there who's one is that one doesn't turn your life into a Broadway musical. That's beloved by many people. Yeah, one of them doesn't make Whitney Houston roll around in her grave. So then Andy Batsy starts confronting Fadra about her strange timelines. Like, it's kind of weird, you know, like your pregnancy and your divorce line. And Fadra's response is like, well, if I feel like it's none of your business,

then I'm just going to respond with pretty much anything as a courtesy. I'm like, that's not the way courtesy's work. A courtesy would be like, actually, I don't want to talk about that or none of your business. Not just a lie. And then Andy says, well, why did candy have a problem with you saying black lives matter when you were trying to defend your client. And Candy's like, well, when someone's not acting appropriately, don't just use Black Lives Matter because you tarnished a whole movement. And I would agree with that. I would too. But I also think that that should apply to Sheree because Sheree was using it like that abusive guy in Miami when he was on the boat like, Oh, yeah.

He'd beat the shit out of someone and she's like, you see, he's just like Black Lives Matter. People trying to bring all men down. Like, no, that's not really the same thing. What Saray caught a lot of heinous and people are not the same as fucking people going off and acting abusive Saray. Yeah, but you know what, to be fair,

Saray caught a lot of heat for that from Black Lives Matters itself, I believe. It was, it was, it was, yeah, it was a small dust. I think Black Lives Matter released a statement being like, no, this is not the same thing. Please don't turn us. And if it wasn't Black Lives Matter, it might have been Sean King and the Daily News or something like that. But Shere definitely was, she was corrected on, on, on a large scale. Oh, okay. Well, that's good. It is good. Yeah. And Fadriss said, okay, well that's good.

It is good. Yeah, and Fadres said, yeah, that never really happens in real life. It's funny when real life comes to kick these women in the ass, you know? Well, the thing is this, Black Lives Matter would apply to Fadres case if it were a situation where this guy

was innocently walking into this building and he was like tackled down and like maybe even shot or something like that Arrested and then it turns it turns out he was there to like deliver a burrito or visit his mom but he was like Like this ex fell in who you know something was up. There's something shady and There's a reason why it was not like it was not put into the spotlight. I mean, maybe I'm wrong.

So maybe I'm totally wrong. But as far as I'm aware and I am the least aware person, I will say, it's something that a movement would have picked up and no one wanted to touch it, probably for a good reason. Yeah. And of course, she's just trying to dovetail into any brand she can. You know, she's like, well, it was black badas. It was also Doritos and Pringos pizza hut.

It's like just trying to like get her, get all of her brands in there. Yeah. Made right. So she says, well, he was all the charges were dropped and it turns out he was completely innocent and nothing happened in candy goes so shut down the mall for nothing I just love that she has like in Fadre would have an office in the mall so then then

Fadre does commits the hallowed, or not commits, but she basically fulfills the hallowed promise of any reunion, which is bringing some documents to the party. And so she's like, well, Andy, I just want to show you this. And it was the divorce papers, the finalized divorce papers from last year between her and Apollo. And he reads it out loud. and he's like, you know He reads it. It says that they both signed it. It's a finalized divorce district whatever and judge whoever and it all seems like pretty legit For a second, but then we find out from Kenya and from candy that basically phadra put the wrong names on the divorce

proceeding like maybe it was like their stage names and misspelled his name so they couldn't deliver it to him properly. Yeah, they wouldn't they wouldn't deliver it to him in jail or something like that. So basically he didn't get it and that's why it's all appealed. So it's classic phadra doing something that on the surface looks legit, but there's some shadiness involved But wouldn't he have to sign those papers? I actually don't get I mean they're both shady So who knows where the truth is yeah, cuz I read that in the blogs while the season was going on that she had

Basically put his name on to be shady and make him settle for a lower amount. But in order to finalize the divorce, he would have had to sign it. So I'm not really sure what that is. And of course, F. Fadre was like, well, it did deliver it. Every service has been justified. Math, math, protractor, math, protractor, whatever. So who knows? He says, he says, why didn't you want to share it? that's a great line. It's like that's talking like a lawyer too. If I have like I'm not going to be a lawyer. I'm not going to be a lawyer.

I'm not going to be a lawyer. I'm not going to be a lawyer. I'm not going to be a lawyer. I'm not going to be a lawyer. I'm not going to be a lawyer. I'm not going to be a lawyer. I'm not going to be a lawyer. I'm not going to be a lawyer.

I'm not going to be a lawyer. I'm not going to be a lawsuit. I've won everyone. That's a great line. That's a great line. It's like that's talking like a lawyer too. If I have, like I'm not committing to anything. Yes, I did pay Walter the 150 grand I agreed on to appear on my season. Fager's just like prosecutor, prosecutor motion motion. Objection sustained. Like wait a minute. Objection sustained overrul a minute objection sustained over ruled motion approach

You're on a recess Like wait, no not commercial time. Yeah, I object sustained two plus two and six appeals federal court So yeah, then we get another but you're a compulsive liar. What about the baby? And she's like Andy In none of these ladies paying a dollar towards my mortgage Okay And then somehow I think Fadre and Kenya start to yell at each other right and that's when Fadre is like Nobody wants you you like an old condo that they don't convert it to a town home I'm like, actually, that sounds wonderful.

That sounds like a great thing. And then Ken, you're just like, you're a free vitalization now. What the hell? She's like, property brothers, that's who you are. Oh, whoa. Look, look at you. You came in here functional and you became an open kitchen, disgusting. You're like an old condor that someone came in and changed out the kitchen And at the end of the day you told the woman no, I want to list it. I

Don't love it No one would ever say love it with you You are both a flip and a flop I feel like every time I make a flipper flop joke, you really lose it. Toric. But I do love the Kenya's response. I was like, oh, shut up with that rehearse read. You're rehearsed, rehearse read. Yeah, they're just calling her out now on every single little thing and everybody's over

it. I mean, Porsche is really doing a good job trying to stay on this side, but even she's having trouble. Yeah. So then we get another girl by a fadre. Yeah. And so kids of real housewives of Atlanta, the kids, hey, let's take a break from abuse and tricking ex-husband into losing all their money break from abuse and tricking ex-heasements into losing all their money to the cutest kids in Atlanta. Yeah. Okay. So, it was kind of fun.

It was fun to see how they all grew up. I mean, Cairo, it was funny to see how Cairo used to be like this little kid and now Cairo's Cairo. What's funny about Riley is that her face is essentially the same. Like when you look at her when she was six, she basically has teenage Riley head on top of a six-year-old body and she's basically grew into her head. It's, and I mean that all in the best possible way. She's a beautiful, beautiful young woman,

but it's kind of funny how Riley is so Riley, you know? She grew into her head. She did. You know how some people just always look the same? Like when you look at their baby pictures or whatever, you're like, oh, you look exactly the same. That's what Riley is. She's, you know, she's a professional.

Riley, say that. This is the part. Yeah, this is the part where she was like, Riley, Riley, Riley. I got to teach it different clips. Yeah. And I like also how they put Ace being the newest one. He's so cute.

And I'm like, you're making a poo poo. And then it cuts to fadres kids being terrorists and that restaurant. Yeah. We also saw Noel go from being like a little girl to being the face of cargo. Naomi Campbell said Cairo has a future. And Cynthia goes, Oh, left out the part about me, Joe. That's her ongoing arc left out the part about Cynthia. Everybody does even me. Cynthia is like, you left at the part about me. And he's like, oh, yeah. Naomi said that she also got a new kitchen island.

And Cynthia keeps coming over to stand by it. So then the next question was so rude. It's like, yes, you know that Saray is all about the coin. Why would Cynthia ask I wrote a model for a Dorothe Explorer backpack? Yeah, as she goes, girl, I'm behind Dorothe Explorer child. But that is not what we do. Yeah.

Those backpacks were tiny and subtle. They could maybe hold a juice box child. Our backpacks are huge. I don't even know how to explore You could only imagine Mallana door the explorers thing though. Oh Where are we Diego? This map is confusing Diego and it just pauses Diego do you know where we are? Where are we?

Why is there a monkey in my backpack? Is this like that George Michael song? Monkey on your back? Diego? Peter's just driving around her in circles. They used to be Mike's, Laura. Peter, the expo, up, spawn. I, uh, I explored Atlanta.

I found this great space to open a bar to it's under another highway I got here flight different ways ways Peter's ways Can you imagine Peter as the voice of ways? Hey turn left turn left it turn Make me drive in circles. Yeah, because I want you to see where I grew up to enough to enough Make me drive in circles. Yeah, because I want you to see where I grew up. To enough, to enough. To enough.

He starts like strangling you when you don't turn the right way. You know, we had a good thing going when we were driving to the left, but now you want to go to the right, you know. He just gills you for taking the route that he didn't write. He recommends the worst possible route that's going to cost you a lot of money. He would pay to on every toll road. And you're like, I think I'm actually just going to take this direct route because it's five miles shorter. Okay. Well, I'm going to go tell Wendy Williams.

What? My mouth. The wrong route. I'd like to give him the right when he's like, girl, when he's waving her fingers, all man. Traffic down the head. And then Sarabra brings in her shade. And she's like, well, you might want to tell Miss Cynthia that Cairo is still waiting on his back, which I love that she never even gave the bag to Cairo. And that car was actually waiting back for them all there. And Cynthia's like, well, he did pick it up. She said, yeah, but he didn't get it.

I thought it was awkward speaking of Cairo when Andy is like, oh, I can't imagine what his DMs are like. I'm like, we've seen what his DMs are like. I thought this, I was like, it's really weird that you're alluding to Kiro's jerk off snapchats to his mom. Yeah, you're about to make Sheree sob. So why don't we not bring up her husband's. Her son's penis.

Jack off videos. Yeah. Her son's disappointed. I'm sorry. Yeah. Her son's disappointed. I'm sorry to say Bob. I meant Cairo. Yeah. Yeah. So D.Y.

Sere. OK, so we talk about Sere's kid. And this, you know, kind of the running thing of the season is Sere making excuses for men. And it was all it also went back to that Miami thing last year. She's always making excuses for men. And here she goes again. She's like, well, it wasn't drinking.

They were at a party and they got pulled over. And the cops said, you've been drinking? And they said, no, but as Frank said, we smoked earlier. And then he had to go to jail because he was one driving. And I told her, you know, be careful your friends are. It's like, why don't you tell them not to fucking smoke pot and drive? How about that? How about you don't appear on a show with a bunch of bitches who you all pretend to be friends before you tell Kiro be careful your friends are No, don't do that. Stay absolutely please. Yeah. Yeah

You Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kids, kids, and they're off limits. So then we get in for the base of the last 15 minutes the show I didn't take too many notes because it was like so serious I was like, I don't know what like what to make fun of but It was the Bob and Shere segment where Shere was really opening up about this abuse You know, we saw the whole clip package of you know Bob making those jokes in Hawaii, which were really like uncomfortable and terrible and you know Bob making those jokes in Hawaii which were really like uncomfortable and terrible. And Shirei tells us, and you know, it's not many time Ronnie if I'm like glossing over areas you wanted to talk about. Oh no, I'm totally fine with glossing over this. I mean how much can you talk about domestic abuse?

A lot. A lot. A lot. So sad. We can talk uninformed about so many things and be offensive. But it either way, Shirei, it was really sad. It was a very raw moment. But I was like proud of Shirei because she was talking about how she, her girlfriends or mother, they never knew about the abuse. She kept a quiet to protect, bob, to protect the kids. She just, you know, for 10 years, she sat on it. She never wanted to touch it.

And then the thing is this Andy, I was like, you know, Andy, you've got to work on your words because he goes, I don't think people realize how heavy it got between you and Bob. I'm like, look at Bob, it's always going to get heavy with Bob. Not to fat shame, but it was an easy joke. That was almost a question. Literally crushed. So yeah, Sushre thought that he had changed, which is why she considered having him back, but obviously

he clearly has his demons and you know, she hasn't talked about it with her kids. She's gonna have to talk about the kids but I think what was really so heartbreaking and what was heartbreaking during the season when she talked about it and I sort of forgot about it and it came up again was this story about how one day he just up and left the whole family and she was left in the lurch and she was really traumatized by that. And we saw that when she told that heartbreaking moment on that boat in Hawaii and you know, it sort of came back here and I thought that's a terrible thing to go through.

That's a really, I mean, obviously, but abuses too, but that's, that's awful. Yeah, and it's something, you know, something that's dramatic. She's built up all of this, this wall, wall's up, but she's got like a legit wall. And then once it, once she actually has to stop talking about it and really sees that he's just going to be the same way. Yeah. And then you know, it's like she finally let herself feel all that stuff. It's so fucking sad. I mean watching Sheree Honestly, sob is not I don't need a lot of that I mean that's so sad and it's also crazy to see how far she's come from her first season when she was a total asshole Yeah, well she was probably a total asshole because she was in a really unhappy place in her life, you know

Yeah, but then, that season was amazing because she was such an asshole, because she was such a great villain season one. Wow, season one, when it was Kim and Neenie in their pristine states up against Shirei, that to me is still my favorite season of all time. I'm low to be that person and say, season one was the best,

because I hate when people just say season one is automatic, the best of things. That's not always the best, but I think with Atlanta season one was the best. This season, by the way, is up there. This has been a fantastic season. I think I'm not sure if this was season, I think it was season two when it happened, but my favorite was when Mimi got really jealous that Kim was getting a song written to record. And she was just jealous for no reason. She was mad. And they said, but you're her friend. I mean, don't you think she could be a singer? She goes, if they ever come out with whisper singing,

that was season one. That was season one. Well, it was great about that. It was not only was Shrely, the evil one, but you also saw Nini and Kim start to have a fallout because of that song. And one of my favorite things to see on any reality show is when friends break up. It's not that I'm happy to see friends break up, but I feel like it creates such a real emotional thing. You know, when friends break up and watching Kim and Nini go through it, you just sort of wind up taking a side. You know, we saw it on Beverly Hills, we see it on OC and I feel like, you know it's funny because, because Fadre and Candy have had their breakup, but I have to say in general their breakup hasn't pulled me in the way other friendship breakups have

because there's, for the past several years on Atlanta, they're just sort of like this feeling like a lot of these women are doing it for the show, like it doesn't always feel totally authentic, so it didn't pull me in as much as others. But this season was really good, just because this season was so over the top. You know, it was like real world Las Vegas where it's so over the top. Like none of it really seems real, but you have to just sort

of enjoy it for being, you know, excess. And I think the candy and fator stuff was real. And I was like, because you see, I, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really they'll be like, well, remember that time and you said that I, I was trying to get a free dress. That was embarrassing. It's like, oh my God, that was like an off-handed comment about LeWan in Carol's first season. And she will never let it go. And in this case, it was Candy, Candy gets married to Todd.

And it's the typical never talk to your girlfriends again, totally ditch them for the man, and then start taking the husband side. And Fadre, unfortunately, is so immature that she gets so upset and starts doing really underhanded things to get back. Yeah, and the one with Neenie and Kim was so good because Neenie really got mad at the most ridiculous reason. She was mad at Kim because she got a song and she was paying for somebody to do it and it was terrible. It was like her daughter's piano teacher wrote a country song.

It didn't be towering. It was a whole hard country, did it? Yeah. And you really saw that was the first time we saw Nini's immaturity really lash out in that angry way. Because most of what Nini does, it's just ridiculous. Right. And it's like she's still mad that Kim is more famous.

I want to amend what I said about Candy and Fadre. I think I agree. I agree that it actually is a totally real falling out. But I think one of the reasons why it felt it didn't pull me in as other friend fallouts like Vicky and Shannon, for instance Bethany, Luanne, Bethany and Jill, all that is because Fadre is actually very guarded on this show. She makes for good TV because she is She says the funniest things and you know, she sturs the pot, etc but

When this friendship falling out happened I think candy was very honest about how she was feeling etc But Fadra like she doesn't give you a lot. I don't think or you always question how real it is and that's why I never Got totally sucked in on what's gonna happen between these two. But that's just a minor point, but I did wanna clarify that, because I didn't wanna- Yeah, I thought that's how it was.

That's a lie. No, no, but yeah, that's a lie. It's really hard to be on Fadre's side, even though I always am. Somehow, I just think, I've turned on Fadre's tears this year. Yeah, everybody's like, no, and I get it. But I just, I kind of am on her side sometimes. Not with candy. I can't help it. I'm on candy side at all times.

Yeah, with candy. Yeah, but Fadre, yeah, I mean, Fadre just went so dirty. I really do believe she called the city, which is so Fadre, but it also makes me love her because that's a kind of bitch. You doesn't just need to fight with you. Show ruin your fucking life for she'll try. And you know, I love lifetime. And so I respect revenge. I respect, I respect meaningful revenge. Just what I'm saying. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting because when Fadre is not doing the bullshit stuff when she's, I think when she's just being her, she's really lovable. You know, when she's doing Fricker Frack

or when Candy and Fager were the littles or whatever, the shorties or whatever they're called, they were, like they were great. And that was, it's funny, because when Fager first came on the show, I really hated her because she had that pregnancy story. She was full of so much bullshit and like, oh, this woman is awful.

But she, you know, she started to thaw because she was with candy and they were so fun and they would have fun times together and you really liked her. But she has, you know, she, she does give two sides. Like, she gives like a, the professional fake fadre and then she has the fun side. side and and I think that like during the candy fallout You only got you didn't really get the fun you didn't get the honest side and I would have liked that yeah Well that's shady fate. Well, that's the end of part two So we'll have two more weeks of this yes two more weeks

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