Watch What Crappens - #450 RHOA: Frick & Fractured

Episode Date: May 9, 2017

It's the epic showdown we've all been waiting for: Kandi vs. Phaedra vs. Porsha. All the truth comes (mostly) out in part four of the Real Housewives of Atlanta reunion, and it's crazy. We...'re not sure what the future holds for shady Phae-Phae, and we're still not totally sure about production's role in this messiness, but here's one thing we do know: we had a blast breaking everything down. Come listen and relive this HISTORIC fourth reunion episode. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:48 my good confinant, my ally who I know would never simply just repeat something he had heard and passed off like firsthand information. It's Ronnie Caram from trash talk TV and Roseprick's bachelor podcast. What's up Ronnie? Well, hello, Bien. Hello, are you breathing?
Starting point is 00:02:09 Are you okay? Have we finally, have we finally internalized this Atlanta reunion? Are we ready to podcast about this? Oh, man, Atlanta. Girl. Girl. Writing down notes for Atlanta. I'm a horrible human being for what's about to happen today
Starting point is 00:02:29 I could not it was like so much was happening so much and I was tired after not was my fingers my whole soul is tired I was hurt. I was in pain. I was like who's lying and then people then people start texting, you know, all our friends who watch the shows, start texting us. So much was happening. Giving their opinions. And then of course, they start confusing me. And then we've heard so much gossip about this one episode all year long from the, you know, whatever,
Starting point is 00:02:57 the gossip blogs, the straight, the word on the streets. Yeah. I just don't even know what to think anymore. I'm confused. I'm hurt. My soul is great. It was great. It was great Before we dive into Atlanta, I just want to say that our show at the improv tomorrow night is sold out So thank you everyone. I can't believe we sold out our show at the improv
Starting point is 00:03:20 So thanks everyone who's gonna be coming. We're gonna see you tomorrow night We're also gonna do our bestest to put it on to Facebook live. So if you're not there, you still can watch. We'll have details about that on our Facebook page, Facebook.com, forward slash watch, watch what happens as those details come together. But just sort of keep an eye on that Facebook page
Starting point is 00:03:40 because that's where you'll see it. Also show us at 10 p.m. Pacific time. So if you're on the East Coast, you know, drink some coffee and tune in it like 1 a.m. Yes. And anybody who didn't have tickets and really wanted to come will probably be done around 11, 11, 30. Probably a lot of people are just going to go home because it's a school night when we get it and thank you for coming out so late. I will be going out to have a few drinks. So if anybody just wants
Starting point is 00:04:11 to come hang out, my aunt still comes, just watch it outside on your phone on Facebook live and then we'll go party after. Why not? Yeah, it'll be like when there's like American Idol when there's like satellite viewing, that's what we'll be like. We'll have like our American like a hometown, but it's really just the outside of the impressive. Yeah, why not? You know, they have a great bar there. A huge bar. It is open tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:04:31 So you can open the bar. I mean, the bar is open to right, right, right. It's open. The main bar. We're in the lab, but the main bar is right next door. So you can get some drinks in there. What's the show on the lab? There's a bar in the lab.
Starting point is 00:04:44 I know, but I'm saying if they can't get into the lab, they can sit in the bar in the theater and the other, you know, the main theater bar and watch it on your Facebook live, drink, and then we'll go out after. Also, I want to give a shout out to one of our podcast friends, Ms. Julie Goldman, from People's Counts, and she has a podcast with her bestie and People's Couch partner, Ms. Brandy Howard called Dumb Gay Politics, which is great show. They're real, they don't give a shit. They'll say whatever, they're not afraid of getting in trouble.
Starting point is 00:05:15 So listen to that. But also, Julie is a really, really stand-up comedian and she is doing a fundraising show at the Gay and Lesbian Center in Hollywood. It's called Julie Goldman. It's a miracle. Witness the unexplained phenomenon of Julie Goldman's humor, a girl who will write her own copy. And it's her one woman show, her one woman standup show.
Starting point is 00:05:37 It's this Saturday, the Game Lesbian Center, to get tickets. Oh, you know, I don't even have a link here. Go to eventbright.com or just search Julie Goldman on Facebook. I'll post this on our Facebook page to you so you guys can buy tickets. But I'll be there. It's a Saturday night and it's gonna be good. It's gonna be good. Yeah. So exciting stuff happening all around. But let's get back to the main excitement which is real house was of Atlanta
Starting point is 00:06:10 reunion episode for and this was the madness and I'm macron Here's my macro now, you know, you know, I'm I always say the same thing my favorite part with these Shows is when the the emotion is real when the drama is real it comes from a real place and I've always said Atlanta is like funny, but a lot of their shit comes from an outrageous place not a real place and I've always said Atlanta is like funny But a lot of their shit comes from an outrageous place not a real place But what was good about this episode was that it was real shit that was that came from the outrageous shit So I was highly invested. It was great great hour Really really good so and by this time this is the first four-part reunion they've had ever For it's historic. It's historic.
Starting point is 00:06:46 You don't remember. It's historic. And it's the first time that they've done four parts. And by this time, we should be exhausted. Yeah. And it wasn't. It was actually great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And so, first of all, we knew shit was about to fall apart with Frick and Frack because on the previously on, you know, Ronnie, I will do the previously on honors this time. Oh, I didn't let myself ride it down. Well, I didn't write notes, but what I noticed, sorry, I just hit the table, by accident, I moved and hit the table. What I noticed was that everything, what all the clips that they showed were
Starting point is 00:07:22 Fadre and Portia testifying to how solid their relationship is and that Fadre doesn't control Portia and Portia loves Fadre and so they set it up so severely they're like oh god they are about to fall apart this is what this hour is going to be Portia and Fadre falling apart and of course we had an inkling of that with the with the previews for the episode but when they set it up like that, you're like, oh, this is gonna be monumental. And didn't that seem like it was 20 years ago? It really did.
Starting point is 00:07:53 When they said, how are fricking frack? And they're like, frickin' frack ain't quack. Frickin' frack is back back. Frickin' frack is happy as heck. It's like a wet-out-back. Back to back. Back to back.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Back-wack. Frick Freaking frack always on track. You know, like they were really laying it on. I was like, God, this seems like it was 20 years ago. Yeah. So, uh, so we started up basically where the last episode ended, which is Porsche saying that Pedro was the one who told her that candy was going to drug and rape her, basically. And that's when he goes, YOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Yeah, it faded from like black and white to color all of a sudden. It was like a big brother after a post-election episode. You know how they do that. And then you've got little Todd behind her going, get the fuck outta here. Get the fuck outta here. I had to come out here sitting on a non-Ikea chair just hosting to this. Get the fuck outta here.
Starting point is 00:09:01 I need this chair to have a much higher back. Get the fuck outta here. So, so, to have a much higher back. So so Fadre of course, nice saying. I didn't accuse you of anything. I just said whether I was told. Yeah, that's that was Portia's big delineation. I wasn't accusing you. I was just saying what I was told. I was just repeating it. So now that's the excuse that we're gonna accept now. I was just repeating it, okay? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:31 But then when Fadre says, I just repeated it. They're like, wait a second, that excuse doesn't work. Yeah, she's like, no, you told me. She said it to you, because I asked you three times and you said she told you firsthand, not third hand, first hand. And I don't know who taught Porsche up, you know, English, but I love that she's learned what first hand means. And you can tell when a new phrase comes into Porsche's mind because she uses it 20 times. Today we got first hand.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And what was the other one? We'll get to it. We'll get to it. It's a minor story. I'm not sure, but she did say first hand a lot. Yeah. How many had you got? First hand, as we all know means, which hand came out of your mama's uterus first?
Starting point is 00:10:19 So that's my left hand. Fager told me with her right hand. I guess her right hand came out first. I don't know. So hand. Fager told me with her right hand. I guess her right hand came out first. I don't know. So, um, so Fager's- I can't even five-hide you with your third hand. Uh. Uh.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Uh. Um, so then she's- so then Fager's like, I- I repeated it because I heard it. That's all. I repeated because I heard it. And then that's what- No, she told me she said it first hand. Yeah. So Portia, two things are- one of two things are happening, maybe both. I repeat it because I heard it and that's what she said it first and yeah, so Porsche
Starting point is 00:10:46 Two things are either one of two things are happening maybe both She's either realizing that Fadre has hung her out to dry or She has Realized I am in a losing battle and this is my opportunity This is my opportunity to get out of this situation. So I've seen you know personally I've watched a lot of survivors. So I've seen, you know, personally, I've watched a lot of survivors. So I've seen this happen a lot. It seems like very classic survivor, because now Porsche suddenly is acting so shocked.
Starting point is 00:11:14 You know, the tier of circumstances is like, you said she said it to you! First time, first time, first time. And I feel like that was her sister. He was like, no, did you hear it? First hand or third hand? Because Portia mentions later. She's like, but I called you. Two days ago.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Two days ago, you told me you heard it first hand. So I feel like her sister was like, now before this reunion, you need to call her and say, did you hear this first hand? Get her to say first hand. Check first hand get her to say first hand Check for them first hand and that she did and so she just keeps screaming first hand over and over even though She's not really sure what it means and then that's when candy starts going into full bumpy wagon voice Which is the voice she gets when it sounds like she's in a wagon going over bumps like and going over bumps like the last the last the last the last the last last
Starting point is 00:12:08 now lies really wouldn't lie like that but she's not Pedro the last the last last last last last last last last so she's like doing her weird candy cry opera As you say yes, then you hear shmiko triflin Oh man, so then candy since as Porsche Supporters sitting there and candy turns the portions and she just goes See now
Starting point is 00:12:46 Boasha, do you see why I keep saying she's controlling you and that's when Portia's brain Explodes she puts her hands over her face and's like oh my god I can't know like all of a sudden the entire reunion turned into green code for her because she saw the matrix. She is lucky she has some strong boob tape because she was just messing all over that place. Yeah. She was convulsing that one. She wasn't candy's like see now, Bosch, you and I never had a problem and then Porsche was like How many hands you have? Fadre still trying, you know, no matter what happens and I know it makes people crazy probably. I just left Fadre. I don't even care. I know she's a total liar. I let a bread a bunch of that Angela stand and stuff. You know, when that always came to that. I know she's foolish. I totally believe she got Apollo thrown back in jail when he came on TV.
Starting point is 00:14:09 I believe that. And said that her, you know, said that he was blowing $8,000 at the strip club and made her look like a goddamn idiot. I think she was like, oh, really? Buy go to jail. So I believe the worst in Fadre, but I still kind of like her because I like Sydney Sheldon novels where the woman has been so hurt in her life that she just gets revenge on everybody around her in turns
Starting point is 00:14:28 evil. Like it's my favorite kind of character. I can't help it. Yeah, I don't like that she went after Candie. So I like Fadre, but she went after Candie and you don't go after my precious Candie. I don't either. And one thing I'll say without getting too crazy because Fadre is in the wrong period. There's no way around it. She's totally in the wrong here and totally guilty. But this is what happens when a woman's feelings get hurt. Even a little bit. I mean, I really think her feelings were so hurt over the candy and Todd being friends with the polo still and all that stuff. And even when candy starts here saying, we were the re you say that I didn't pay it. It's into you. But you were all to move down talking to another guy. And she was like, I felt like I didn't have to call you because
Starting point is 00:15:16 you were fine. You know, you weren't sad. But I think that Fadre just felt really sad that that's her best friend. And there's still kind of on all the side. You know, and that's what happens like one tiny little heart feeling turns into all of this. Listen, I just watched a lifetime movie last night and the amount of hell that one girl put another girl through because of a heart feeling is something that no woman should ever have to go through, but they go through it all the time. I mean, also, they also do it all the time because they can't help it because they're a motion, you know, women or emotional beings. And that's why I get a lot of that I don't want in the wildhouse. Well, that's why gay guys understand you because we got partly
Starting point is 00:16:00 women brains. So we're the, you know, we can be the same way. Oh, but girls like this whole thing, I thought, man, Fadra got her feelings hurt once and look what it's turned into and watching Fadra get busted like that. Yeah. Well, I mean, this was a fascinating episode because as you'll see of the course of this recap and of course, the reunion, everything is crumbling down around Fadra and I don't think we've ever seen her like this.
Starting point is 00:16:25 She is, you see in her eyes, I actually almost feel bad for her because everything's falling apart. Her, all her lies, everything's coming out and just think, you can see she's just thinking to herself, what do I say? How do I spin this? How do I protect my legal career? Oh my god, this is all, like how do I protect my career on this show? And you just, that, that look of like, like you just know she probably wasn't even hearing anything around her.
Starting point is 00:16:48 She was probably so in her head like, oh my god. You know it gets desperate when Fadre does the stick with it and if when in doubt don't speak, do not answer. Like you could tell she was being her own lawyer. Like do not answer without a lawyer here. She was. She was. Of course she was like, tell me what's going on.
Starting point is 00:17:08 And Fadre was like, I didn't say that to you. And she goes, Oh, I'm alive now. I'm alive. And she's like, no, you wait to lie. Yeah. And Porsche gets off and starts running away. And then everybody starts yelling at her to come back. And Porsche gets off and starts running away. And then everybody starts yelling at her
Starting point is 00:17:28 to come back and Kenya's like, oh, there she goes, not a tear is coming out of her. Shut up, Kenya. And she is running off with real tears. You know, I look at a real tear. Right, well, well, Porsche was, you know, she's sobbing. She's like, I would never say that about somebody if you didn't tell me that. And they just cut to Kenya and Todd's like, I would never say that about somebody if you didn't tell me that.
Starting point is 00:17:45 And they just cut to Kenya and Todd, be like, psh, please. You're just trying to get out of jail. You're trying to just put it all on to Fadre. You know, this was Kenya's moment. Kenya was having the best hour ever. She loved all of this. Fadre has been an orch nemesis.
Starting point is 00:18:00 And, you know, this, yeah, this, this she was eating it up. So it's all of them on the same, you know, it's yeah, this she was eating it up. So it's all of them on the same, you know, it's her and it's both of them. She was like going after both of them and Saray. It's like everybody getting, they had to leave Saray alone this reunion. Yeah. But, you know, everybody got it. Can you have a good season for sure? Yeah. So, so basically, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:22 So Portia is, you know, like she's freaking out. Sheia is you know like she's freaking out She's you know she's like you told me that today isn't gonna found you know and so she gets up and she leaves and now candy I mean candy is live it. She is like Seeey thing like a ball like the puffs of smoke coming out of her nose and she is grilling Fadra and you know she's like see no you told her I can't even do it She was squeaking her voice was in a place that we never even heard before Like I was like whoa she gets this like an opera in all sorts of octaves and then Porsche She's like phage, phagetra. I
Starting point is 00:19:03 Reass you I reass you you. I re-ask you. And you said that Candy told you. I think Tom goes. Tom goes. Trotter goes. Drager, Porsche, Drager. He's like staring at on in his whisper cheers. Fagra's not even to not, she's just not saying anything.
Starting point is 00:19:20 She just, you know, she, which I think it's evidence that she has a script in her mind. She knows, she prepares, she, which I think it's evidence that she has a script in her mind. She knows, she prepares, she knows exactly what she's gonna say for any scenario and this was one thing that she did not plan for it and it was a huge blind spot in her, like she just did not, she thought she had control of, or Porsche and wow. And Todd was saying, left Fadre talk, because she's always lying. So let her talk. And Ken is like, that's what she always does. You know, Ken, he's just like rolling around in the mud, basically. She's like having the time of her life. She's twirling on the inside. And Fadre is
Starting point is 00:19:58 just sticking with it. She's like, I don't remember saying that. And Andy, you know, is not letting it go either. He's like, but you said, Candy told you she wanted to drug her. And Pedro puts her hands up, like, stop. My hands are up. Don't shoot. I do not shoot. Me. She literally raised both of her hands. And Cynthia, you know, Cynthia, shut up,, why are you even talking? You did nothing. No one wants to hear about your like house right now, okay? Cynthia's like, well, let me tell you about cabinet choices. It's like shut up, Cynthia. It's like, Adri, you're really on an island.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Cynthia's like, what's that about an island? Huh? Can I come over talk to a child? I am gonna run a sink line into my island child. That's what I have to say. She's like, look, islands are dramatic, but going with rapes too far. It's just too much. And so then they keep, you know, pounding this rape thing into the ground.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Well, candy has a great point, which is that as much as porcesters try to put this all on to Fadre to make it seem like, you know, oh, she was upon. Candy's like, see? Now, Bosh, you know, I don't do drugs. So why did you believe it? Like, and you won't believe it, but why would you believe it? And that's the question that Porsher
Starting point is 00:21:14 just could not answer the entire union because no one believed it. When these allegations came up, no one watching this show believed it for a second. So why wouldn't she? Well, she didn't say that, you know, if Porsher had a damn half a brain. So why wouldn't say that she, you know, if Porsche had a damn half a brain, which also I love Porsche, but she stupid, let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:21:30 If Porsche had half a brain, she would have just said, I didn't say you did drugs. I said I heard that you were so horny. I didn't try to say it. I'm trying to drug me. She wasn't saying she did drugs, even not that that's much better because she's still calling her a date rapist.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Yeah. But she's, okay, now that's much better because she's still calling her a date rapist. Yeah. But she's okay. Now, here's the part where we have to pause because I'll not literally don't press stop. But a lot of the gossip at this time, this is from March 19, 2017, this is coming from you be urban gossip, but it was all over the place. This is just the first story I found. The gossip was that Fadre in the reunion
Starting point is 00:22:07 also dropped a major bomb about head producer Carlos King. As you may recall, King's resume and reality television is pretty lengthy, but he's not for helping love and hip hop blah blah blah. According to new reports, when Andy Cohen pressed Porsche into spilling who told her candy has a sex dungeon, she broke down and said she got the information from Fadra. Andy then grilled Fadra about the dungeon claims.
Starting point is 00:22:27 And Fadra shocked everybody when she claimed that producer Carlos King is the one who told her candy had a dungeon. So that has been, and not only that, Fadra actually had proof too. Some are saying that this revelation led to Carlos' firing while we're not sure if this is true, blah, blah, blah, you know, so they don't get sued, which we're not sure if it's true, too. But that was the gossip going around all over the rag. So supposedly in this reunion, Fadre said, I got that from Carlos King, which is why I totally believed it and had no problem passing it on because I figured if he told me, then
Starting point is 00:23:02 obviously it's true. And if I got in trouble, then he gets in trouble. So it was like hearing the truth. So I passed it on and it was like I heard it. Right. So that's some shade right there. This show is really nasty. Yeah. Yeah. The super nasty, super super nasty.
Starting point is 00:23:17 And of course, he came on Instagram or something because that's how you, you know, fight the news. But he came on Instagram and said, no, this is all bullshit. And the reason, I didn't get fired, I quit. And I decided to expand my own company and everybody knows it. And they've got the texts to prove it. Of course.
Starting point is 00:23:35 So who knows? But just in case anybody hadn't heard that, there you go. Well, either way, Fager just kept on saying, I repeated it because I heard it. I repeated it because I heard it I repeated it because I heard it and repeated it you're repeating it I'm saying that you're saying it I gotta move you said first hand and I'm a pawn and first hand third hand pawn pawn pawn I'm like okay so now you know what Jess is too. Please. Please. Jess, because my favorite seafood is pond does not mean that I want to be one.
Starting point is 00:24:09 No, it's prong. She's like, yeah, basically porches like basically. I asked for the tea and asked the mother, the fact and the I was hurt, hurt you from my friend. That's why I gave you chamomile while I told you heard you from a friend. That's why I gave you Camamil while I told you. And Todd's like, why would you trust her? She lies all the time and she goes, Because she's an attorney!
Starting point is 00:24:35 Good. That's why you trusted her. God, porcelain, you have so much to learn. I liked it was somewhere around here when she, when Porcelain said, I like she said that Fadra had so many opportunities to come clean She has some opportunity to eat first and pom pom So many opportunities to re-ask the question checker mate Welcome
Starting point is 00:25:08 So yeah, Fadra is just sticking to it. And you just keep saying it over and over and over again. I was repeating the rumor. I was repeating the rumor. And Andy will not let this go. He's like, Fadra, now you knew she was bringing it out on TV. Are you that mad at candy? He's like smiling like a cat with a bird and he's mad. So excited. And then candy's like, you know, the cry opera, the wagon cry opera.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And Andy won't let it go. He's like, but why tell Porsche you heard it directly from candy? Is it a love connection? We'll be back in four and four and Fadre's like I heard it and I just wrote multiple thoughts finally major goes I made a mistake. It was my bad. I screwed up Yeah, and then this is when Candy really, I mean, Candy gets, you know, sometimes she gets wrapped up with that special place and she is so angry and she is crying and she's like, see, now that's rape. What you're saying is rape. There's a hashtag that's hashtag candy aka Bill Cosby do you understand that and she's right I mean
Starting point is 00:26:28 I'm from even like wooden bop I'm from each wooden oh see now I like a solid sweater you know there's a hashtag candy for't be. Felicia Rashad, please stop. Talking to middle cause B. We need to stop with these long hashtags. How are we supposed to read the tweet? So, can he, I mean, her, her, I, I mean, she has tears in her eyes and she's like, y'all, y'all, excuse me
Starting point is 00:26:57 of being a fucking rapist that is crazy. And then she gets up and the best, I love this. I mean, it was a very serious moment. I don't love what can't be, it was going to be. But when she gets up because she's so mad, they I mean, it was a very serious moment. I don't love what Candy was going to do. But when she gets up because she's so mad, they cut to charade. And charade just starts up. She's, oh my god. Because Candy just took it to like Candy went next level.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I mean, someone like Porsche, she says, I heard you wanted to put drugs in my drink and take me to your sex dungeon. Porsche doesn't even like think twice about saying something so stupid, you know? Which doesn't make it right. But then candy is like, but yeah, excuse me. I'll be dragging someone. It's right. I'll be dragging someone.
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Starting point is 00:28:50 I think you've been the villain all season long. I like just how she said it. Like I cannot believe they just turned me into, and that she said God dang villain. And then went, and then went, or a daggone. I like that in front of the cracker barrel. barrel and then Andy goes I think we should take a break
Starting point is 00:29:07 I'm like really there's only two people in the couches. Yeah, I think that would be good There's like no one left on the couch It's just Samia Shamea is like so and it was so mean because later on when they have as you did come back and he's like so we've excused Shamiya I was like oh you know Shamiya was like no Shamiya knew that's why in the last reunion she just kept going on and on she's like see it lies She's a triflin hook up blah blah blah baseball She just started splitting out
Starting point is 00:29:43 You ugly that That's why. Look at your face. Like she just got every, I know you are. But what am I? She just got everything out in the first. Yeah. First. I'm confused.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Yeah. So, Candy is now riled up, riled up, and she just wants to punch Fager in the face. She literally wants to punch Fager in the face. And she's like, you know, goes off. She needs to come down. I like, eventually at one point, it's just Shirey and Cynthia just standing there and Shirey goes, Cynthia, are you just as lost as I am?
Starting point is 00:30:12 You got a compass? You got a compass? I see you online right now. I hope that you're texting Cabro a link to my his backpack because he's not hasn't gotten his bag. I liked when they, when the angle was then was then when they the camera that was on Cynthia, she's just standing there and her like dress is just like flowing off. And I'm just like, of course, she's gonna take this opportunity to have a train moment,
Starting point is 00:30:35 you know? Yeah. Cynthia's basically like the Doug Lou Wellen of the People's Court, you know, she just stands there while everybody else does stuff. And then she's like, how do you feel? Like shut up, Doug Louwellen. We don't have to talk to you. I just like that she's just like, no matter how terrible the allegations are,
Starting point is 00:30:53 I'll be a supermodel right now. I'm wearing my prettiest wig. So candy is just still fricking. She's like, I'm going to punch. It's not face she's basically her own version of Bohemian rap city at this point in the back. It doesn't fall, I need my sister on firsthand. And so Shemia comes over to her and she's like, girl, all of your sister is Shemia. She's like, I know we haven't talked. And I'm
Starting point is 00:31:57 not here to tell you I told you so I'm not here to tell you that I'm concerned. And you've gotta stop letting people use you as bait. And she's like, just be here. tell you that. I'm concerned and you've got to stop letting people use you as bait and she's like, just be here, just be present, just be here, be present, be present. At which point Andy shows up with a broom and is like, shoot, shoot, get out of here, shoot me a shoot, shoot, shoot. Also, Porsche is sitting there, fanning yourself with a paper plate. Also Porsche is sitting there, banning herself with a paper plate. I'm fanning myself with this because it's glad where. And I want to be glad about this moment.
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Starting point is 00:33:38 Um, also I noticed, Porsche has got the strongest eyelash glue I've ever seen. Because he's legit crying and those things don't even move. Also her boob tape doesn't move. I mean whoever's inventing skin glue, good job. You do a great job over there people. Yeah, amazing. So eventually Lauren shows up.
Starting point is 00:33:58 This was also like the seat and airplane where there's the long line of people to slap that woman who's having like in hysterics and someone like slaps her and then like a non comes and slapped it like one person after another just slapped her to give her some sense. So now like Shamia slapped slap Porsche so she's out of the way and here comes the sister to slap her in the face. You like step out of it. This farm is good for me because you know, Porsche is just repeating yourself and she goes she told me for a fact she said this and I thought you want people thinking I'm stupid enough to go out with third party info. Third party info. I mean, fucking Porsche, I love it. So then they keep cutting all this everybody's throwing a fit all over parts of the hotel. Fadre is just sitting there
Starting point is 00:34:44 biting her lower lip while people are curling her hair. Yeah. Fadre is just sitting there, biting her lower lip, while people are curling her hair. Yeah, and hair is over my throat so much. It was like 20 minutes of curling. It was like screaming and yelling and then Fadre was like, mmm, while hair hair is getting curled. It was, you know what I reminded me of, it reminded, well, because everyone was talking
Starting point is 00:35:03 and we wouldn't get to what they were saying, but you know Porsche is talking to Lauren and then Candy is talking to the other women and Fadre is just alone and she's sitting there and she's thinking about her scape-trash. She's just trying to get out of there. It's like one of those movies where the person has like the criminal has been skating along and then the investigator says guess what we got you you're going to jail and I'll be right back I'm gonna go talk to someone so and when I come back we're taking it downtown and she's sitting there and she's thinking how am I getting out of this how am I getting out of this Can I bite through these handcuffs? Yes
Starting point is 00:35:43 And then the music that they're playing is so good because they've turned it into like epic movie music, you know, where there's like horses coming over a hill. Like suddenly it's, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, what is this? Well, it's like I can just imagine horses running over a hill and Brad Pitt somehow being related to Robert Redford, you know River does run through it so then Andy walks in and he walks up to Portia
Starting point is 00:36:14 He's the next one. Okay, Lauren get out of here. Okay, Andy's like so Portia, do you feel set up? Yeah Well, she's like I I would never, ever, ever, ever say that. It's good. And he goes, you know, it would be interesting to find out why Fadre said that. And for you to sincerely apologize. I'm like, yes.
Starting point is 00:36:37 And it would be interesting, smooth. It's so manipulative. He goes, if that's how you feel, okay. Like, in other words. Wouldn't that be interesting? Wouldn't that be interesting to hear what you said wouldn't be interesting if you apologize We did it on the couches wouldn't that be interesting Forces like you know I would really appreciate a first hand continental breakfast because my place been ready for five minutes five minutes. Hahaha.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I appreciate it. I don't know. So Kenya meanwhile, she's over there and she is sharpening her knives and she's trying to make it about her. I don't remember what she said to make it about her but she's like, Kenya, yes. She's on the phone.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Yeah, sorry. She's on the phone with Brandon and she's like, there's no excuse Brandon and I'm sick of the lies and they need to be held accountable and there are always the ones who get away with it and I am sick of the lies and they need to be held accountable. And there are always the ones who get away with it. And I am not taking it. And then Brandon, who, you know, is trying to pretend
Starting point is 00:37:31 that he doesn't know that Kenya is one of the biggest compulsive liars on this fucking show. And hire his boyfriends for herself. It's like, well, you know what? You shouldn't take that next Tuesday either. And then Kenyka's, yeah, and I will take it next Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, or Saturday. I'm not going to take it next month or next year. In 2020, I won't be taking it.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Like you two are so fucking obnoxious. I'm glad you found each other. And then so they go to the back to the couch and he's there. And I just like characeteing there and he's like, charay, can you believe this? She's like, I know, there's not a single base port here. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. I don't know why people have to keep going after each other's
Starting point is 00:38:18 basements on the show. I feel like we as women should be able to stand up and say, it is rude to talk about some was basements. I mean, I agree, Andy. I cannot believe it. It's already been two hours, and I'm not yet received my cargo bag. No, we're not talking about the bag thing again.
Starting point is 00:38:34 We're talking about what happened. Something happened. Fadre may have done a lot, but at least you don't go to her house and leave with dust on the back of your dress. Andy. So Fadre goes out to pour her back and leave with dust on the back of your dress. Andy. So Fadre goes out to Porsche backstage and she's trying to smooth things over. She's like, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have repeated it.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I like when someone else Porsche is still back there with her paper plate and they just keep cutting back there and she's fanning and someone's like, you should just talk to her and she goes, came I came I came Love her so Andy goes to candy and he's like Andy. How do you feel she's like What do you think he's like what do you mean? What do I think? What do you think? And he's like, what do you mean? What do I think?
Starting point is 00:39:24 He's like, what do you think? What do you think? And he's like, uh, I'm shocked. Do you go, uh, shocked. It's like, how Jesus. And then Cynthia is back there like, you've been vindicated child. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Cynthia's like, if you had told me this was going to happen today, I'd be like, it's not possible. Like, good one, Cynthia. Um, I also like when when when Fadre was again being saying to Portia, like I shouldn't have repeated it. I shouldn't have repeated it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:39:55 I shouldn't have repeated it. Portia is like, did you really believe that candy would do that? I'm like, Portia, it doesn't matter what Fadre thinks. You're the one who believed it. And then Fadre, this is such a Fadre align. She goes, well, I heard it.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And if something had happened to you, I would have been a bad friend if I hadn't told you. So Fadre is still sticking to you. She believes that he really did want to drug you and take you to his extension. And she was just trying to protect you. Yeah, good Lord. So I think then they all sort of get back on the couches at some right I think we're back on the couches.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Shemia is sent home and Andy. Andy said he surprised that Fadre as an attorney would say all this stuff. He's like, did you think about it? And she's like, who was a rash decision? I was like, well, great. That's a great quality one out of their lawyers. I didn't know if it was true, but I had to spread the word. Yeah, she's trying to, like, say sorry without taking accountability because she doesn't want to get sued. And one thing, Candy Ozer is a lawsuit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:03 And someone mentioned, you know, if I was Candy, and this was on our Facebook, so I don't have it open, but someone said, I would have been right in that reunion calling a lawyer and having someone serve papers on her ass. And that she didn't do that is fishy because Candy would just to get revenge. I mean, she definitely owes her one. But I, man, I wish we knew the truth about this Carlos, Carlos King stuff. But you know what? It's not part of this show. So let's keep it up. Yeah. So, yeah, again, there's more Porsche, the Fager stuff where Fager's
Starting point is 00:41:34 like, I'm sorry, I should have repeated it. And, you know, Porsche is like, why are you going to stop the madness? And Fager's just like, I'm sorry, I sorry I'm sorry and and it's crazy because we've just never seen Fadra this meek you know she is like she barely has any voice but what everyone keeps pointing out though and this is the key point is that if Porsche had never said anything Fadra would have just let Porsche just hang out to dry like and that's the thing she would would have never gone over and over again. And this is the point that Candy is hammering home. Like if none of this, if you hadn't happened to say that, this would have kept on going. And I would have kept being angry at you. And you would have been the one looking like a fool.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Yeah. And you know, Candy is not always, I mean, she doesn't lie and stuff like that and do anything half as nasty as what we're doing. And I'm not going to say that. and you would have been the one looking like a fool. Yeah. And you know, Candie's not always, I mean, she doesn't lie and stuff like that and do anything half as nasty as what was done to her. But whenever Candie's questioned about some questionable things that goes on with her,
Starting point is 00:42:35 like letting her mom go crazy on camera, like continually giving her mom a platform to be nasty or have her employees spread the rumors about Fadre or have, you know, because her employees have said things, like, well, she's a fraud. She's still in money. She's doing this. She's doing that. They've done a lot of things to Fadre that are mean and Candy allows it. And so Candy's very smart because whenever she's confronted, she just says, I was wrong. That was wrong. My mom shouldn't have done that. My employee shouldn't have done that That was shitty of me and I shouldn't have done it. I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:43:07 And that's what Fadra can't just learn and even Andy You never really grill somebody this hard is like why can't you just say I was mad at you I was hurt. I mean you must have been hurt She's like well, I was hurt because blah blah blah Apollo and And that's when candy goes into the hole. I didn't know you were hurt because you were dating
Starting point is 00:43:28 somebody else and Pedro says, but you knew I wasn't sleeping with someone. And candy says, well, I didn't say you were sleeping with someone. You were seeing she's like, no, you were implying that I was sleeping with someone. Which candy was she was implying thatre was fucking around and all this stuff. And Fadre Candy gets away with it because she just usually says I'm sorry and moves on.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Right. Well, Candy has her shit lined up a little bit more than Fadre does, unfortunately, for Fadre. Because now Fadre starts telling Porsche, like she starts saying to Porsche, like, well, maybe you heard it wrong. Like maybe, maybe that's what it was. And Porsche, like you said it to me three different times. I did not hear it wrong.
Starting point is 00:44:12 So then, so then I think Andy says, like, so, Fadre, do you remember saying this that you said it was first hand? So Fadre has a really, squirrely answer to that. She goes, well, if Portia is saying it, then yes. Which is her way of saying trying to take accountability by owning up to it without really taking accountability because she's not saying that she remembers saying it, but she's deferring to Portia, which is pledging her loyalty to Portia. I'm
Starting point is 00:44:42 supporting you because if I'm saying because if you're saying it, I trust you as a friend. So she's saying I trust you as a friend trying to rebuild that. And she's also not saying that she really said, she's not saying, I don't remember saying it, but I remember that Portia said I said it, so therefore I will have to say that. Yeah, she's basically saying,
Starting point is 00:45:00 we all know Portia's stupid and misheard me because that is not what I said, but I'm supportive of Portia and she's hurt. me because that is not what I said, but I'm supportive of Portia and she's hurt and she needs me to take some kind of accountability. So I'll do it even though we all know that she's probably misquoting me. Mm-hmm. So fadera. It was really squirrely.
Starting point is 00:45:17 And then she says, I'm sorry, candy. It was bad judgment. I'm sorry, Portia. It was bad judgment. I'm sorry, Portia. It was bad judgment, which no one is buying. Yes. He says, well, but did you believe it after knowing her for years? Why would you even believe that? And she goes, well, you know, if she would do it, and since he goes, no, you know, she
Starting point is 00:45:40 wouldn't do a child. And can you say, and what about the sex tension? And what about Marvin? And this is great. And this is great. And this is great. And this is great. And this is great.
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Starting point is 00:46:14 Like someone said, like, guess what? I just burned down a factory of baseball. She's like, that's my favorite when Sharaz, like get some tea to hear something bad. She just can't help herself. This was honestly like 10 tribal councils all in one. I was like, where is Jeff Probs? We need, get rid of Andy.
Starting point is 00:46:39 We need Jeff Probs because he would be able to handle this. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. be able to handle this. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh,
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Starting point is 00:47:14 And everyone's just laughing at her right now. There's like a laugh. It's like sister sister now. There's just some laugh track. Sister sister. Well, and then Candy is like, I mean, and this is crazy because candy is like, well, I see, I knew it was, because, see, because Todd doesn't even feel comfortable going to New York alone ever since his mom had, so. This is probably in, probably. You know, shit, that
Starting point is 00:47:42 point, I mean, it was like, so you're rumored that you started, Fadre also impinged on some deep family grief. Great. Good one. Good one. Well, you know, that's true. Yeah. But I'm saying that's like, that's why I'm saying, you're way to go. Oh, mother was the one to say his mother was a whore and his father was a pimp. It's not really that far fetched. He would be still horny in New York. Right. So then Andy, I guess we already got an apology for that. At this point, Andy is like trying to give an assist to Fadre. He's like, I don't know. Well, you know, maybe now would be a good time to own up or, you know, I'm sure you were
Starting point is 00:48:20 really hurt. Maybe like, what do you do? Because you were really hurt. Are you doing this because you you missed her? Was it coming what do you do this? Cause you were really hurt. Were you doing this because you missed her? Was it coming from a place like that? He's basically saying like, now is your chance. Take these and be the victim. Do it. Yeah, just say you were hurt. You did it all out of rage and you got caught
Starting point is 00:48:37 and you're embarrassed. You really just missed her. You're such an asshole, you know. And she won't. She can't do it. She does take the, well, I was hurt. And this is where candy's like, now come on. You were fine. You were dating. Then they give them and all that stuff. No, no. The Mr. Chocolate stuff is as much later, though.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Oh, my God. Really? Oh, yeah. You know, Stray have what? Oh, Jesus. Yeah. No, this, no, at this point, God sent me as like, as he was like,, Cha, we've all said, we've all said too much. And we could, and we could take it back by saying, you know what, I said too much that one time. Cha, we all did it. Like that time, I said,
Starting point is 00:49:13 I don't want no more kitchen islands. And there's a Cha, no. I need to have a kitchen island like us. Cha, like that. I don't want. I tried to buy a million dollar house and put it in an offer for $5. You know, they didn't take it and I said fuck I feel bad
Starting point is 00:49:29 There was one time I didn't take it back and I said Peter I've got a bone speak with you And he took it literally and we got married under a skeleton so there was that time and I was leaving I'm leaving again like Peter when did you come from you already left? Well, I'm leaving again. I came back for a little tiny cup of bako. Peter's poop. So tiny cup of bako. So either way, they're all saying like there are times you're she based like, you know, we've all said things.
Starting point is 00:49:54 We've all gone too far. We said, you know what, I shouldn't have said it. I should take it back. I could, they were like, but you had opportunities. I mean, you even had a restoration service. And that's when they're like, yeah, I mean, of all the, I mean, you even had a restoration service and that's when they're like, yeah, I mean of all of I mean the irony here but you wanted to do a restoration service and
Starting point is 00:50:10 You were trying to get like to have this moment where we all come clean and you were sitting on this whole huge service I mean this this whole secret like the balls that you have phased or the balls Because portion's like well, I remember when you wanted to have a renovation service. It's a restoration. Resistence. Resistance. Where do you store your couch when you're between homes? You hall. Yeah. You all service. Come back, Porster. Come back. come back, Porclerc, come back. Oh, first and Pond. So, Porclerc is like, can't he, I want to say,
Starting point is 00:50:51 I renovate, store, and recrystallize, and I feel horrible, Pond, Pond checkers, and I'll try to exercise. And Andy's like, well, do you accept it? And Candy goes, uh, okay, I'm like shrugs. But she was a mechanic was basically, but I'm still annoyed at you because you still believed it. Yeah
Starting point is 00:51:14 Todd's like, and phadress like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. She has this weird. I'm sorry, boys She's like, what do I gotta say? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Well, you know what? Let's not forget who the real victim is here. Todd Todd guys. It's always little Todd on his big high. What do you think, Todd? Hey, you want to throw some green beans, Todd your high chair. He's like, I came in with a group of husbands and now I'm all alone and y'all won't be happy till you rip out this man to all women. Just speak the truth. Okay. I was like Todd This is like your moment and that's what you have to say that you like you're annoyed because you can view the bros Please and it's all the women's fault. I mean, this is what always makes me crazy with Todd It's always the women's fault
Starting point is 00:52:01 It's not a polo's fault. He's in jail and committed multiple felonies. It's fagious fault for making him do it. It's not Peter's job for moving away, spending all Cynthia's money and possibly cheating with straight or 16 year olds. He's strangling on Instagram. That's Cynthia's job because she didn't say, ah, or that's Cynthia's problem. Also, always a fuck women. Also, Todd, are you actually are you actively complaining that you don't get to hang out with Peter and Bob anymore on the reunion? Is that the company you want to keep? You should be thanking them that you don't have to be sitting in a green room with those two schmucks. Yeah. And you're also the what your relationship works because you're the only husband
Starting point is 00:52:40 whose wife actively employs him and gives him something to do. Yeah. Okay. So then Andy reads this thing. He's like, well, this year's a little silver lining. Marvin from Chicago says, Hey Todd, thanks for Marvin, the word Marvin, because now I'm getting so much ass again, thanks for making Marvin sexy again, huh? And Todd's like, shut the fuck up, Andy. It was a lie. And it was was insulting to me and this is not funny. Also, by the way, Marvin Gaye, I mean, come on now. This Marvin, I have an issue with Marvin from Chicago. I think he's, he doesn't know what he's talking about. It's Todd.
Starting point is 00:53:16 It's just Todd texting himself. No, that was like something that Andy wrote. And he's pretending he's totally Anderson Koo. Marvin Cohen from Crotch what happens live says thanks for making Marvin cool again. Hey, a bunny named Marvin who's in the watch would happen clubhouse wrote, hey, did I mention I got a bunny? You lost that fucking bunny. He needs to just give the bunny up. Yeah, so the question is even though you know This friendship was dead last year clearly there were resentments and people People stirred the pot and clearly things came to a full boil
Starting point is 00:54:01 Anybody up for a roux put your spoons on the right and your forks on the left because it's time to eat. I'm like, okay, we get it. Uh, we get it. Oh man, get it. Um, yeah, so it's now it's like the candy, fadre package segment. And so we see the clips of their, it's not even the deterioration of their, their friendship. It's just all the shit that went wrong. This is now war. Yeah, this is the war.
Starting point is 00:54:28 And also I love that they remind us what an asshole Joyce is sometimes. Yes. They just show joy. A word on the street can be. And starting to do all that stuff in. I wouldn't piss in her mouth if I yo' gots wrong fire! I'm like, I don't think that's how she wants that fire put out either to be fair. So, we start off with Talk of Johnny,
Starting point is 00:54:54 which is like my favorite, cause I love writing on this tweet. So, Candie's, you know, what was Candie's reaction to all that? She's like, see? No, Fadre's being addictive. And Fadre again, I don't understand. I mean, Fadre, this is her problem.
Starting point is 00:55:11 You know, I don't want to make it political, but I feel like this was also Hillary Clinton's problem. She just didn't know when it was time to like give the authenticity that people want, you know? Which, you know what, I shouldn't make that Hillary Clinton comment because I'm opening a can of worms. But one of the problems I'll say, email worms. Okay. Okay. No, but here is a chance where phage was like, you know what, it was bad judgment. I shouldn't have gone along.
Starting point is 00:55:36 But instead, phage was like, no, well, I was just helping him. I didn't take the case. He wasn't my client. I said be like, oh, shut up, Pedro. This is, this is so bad of you. And Candy knows exactly why she did it because Candy has always said, you can fuck with me, but do not fuck with my man. Yeah. Oh, my money. So, you know, she fucked with her money and that's the lowest she could go to get Candy. And that's what she did, you know, Sidney showed a novel. So instead of just saying that, she's like, well, I had to because as an attorney at law, who embombs people occasionally and helps children find water for once a week. And donkey booty video. Once in a blue moon calls us of the Martha Stewart of Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I got him an attorney and accompanied him to an attorney as a woman with a thriving Uber business. I felt it was Statute to statute guilty innocent bear lift So candy is going ape shit, and she's like that's not just a plot on the show Which is insane 168 now come on and candy is like see now How did you even come up with two dollars and she's like well? I just out of hours and divided. And she's like, see?
Starting point is 00:57:07 Now, those were wrong hours. He made up the hours. I mean, Pedro, this is like really stepped in this shit. And Candi's like, well, this is ongoing. And he doesn't pay for that lawyer. He got it pro bono. So they think they have a case, which means that I'm going to have to pay for the attorney
Starting point is 00:57:23 if he wins. And Pedro's like, well, but there has to be a hearing in court just because they run up a bill, doesn't mean it's going to get paid, which is the worst excuse ever. But if this is baseless, I mean, when this happened, I thought, well, she's hiring his company. She said she's using his company and supported him starting his own event company and does everything she can for him to support. She wouldn't be paying him an hourly wage. He would have agreed to a certain amount
Starting point is 00:57:52 and he would have worked until that job got done because that's how you work when you're salaried or you do something at a set amount. So I'm not sure what they're coming up with that he even has a case that these lawyers are running up all these years. Here's the case that he even has a case that these lawyers are running up all these years here's here's here's the case that he has a case of the dumb dumbs because he is 23 he was on TV helping to plan candy's wedding he she was recommending him to people she was giving him time
Starting point is 00:58:21 off to do shit to you can you imagine that you're 23 and you can put on your resume. Yes, I planned a televised wedding for Bravo. You know, like that's the sort of shit you got to pay your dues. Like, I'm not saying, like, that, first of all, I don't believe that he was underpaid. I believe he was paid exactly what he was owed, but, you know, also when you are starting out in life, you just, you're at the bottom. And that's the way it is. I'm sorry, but it's true. And, and he has a celebrity in his corner, a celebrity who is on TV, who's beloved, and he could have parlayed that
Starting point is 00:58:54 into something big. He could have been a design master. He could have found something at HGTV. And what do you do? He bit the dog, he bit the hand that fed him. He also probably bit a dog too, knowing him the stupid guy. But I'm assuming that pit bull, who's bleeding from a tear. I waited a minute. Then I bit for no good reason. But you're saying,
Starting point is 00:59:16 I was hungry. I was like $1 an hour, okay. But Fadre's stupid too, because as you predicted, she was like, he's not my client. He, you know, I was just helping him. And they're like, well, so why did you keep going back? He's like, well, he asked me to.
Starting point is 00:59:28 It's like, oh, come on, come on. You know, he's like, you didn't have to go back. Like, don't act like he's, don't say he's not your client and do what he asks. If he's not your client, you don't have to go to shit for him. But then, and then they talk about, oh, so Johnny's claiming that he came up with OLG and I just love Kenny's reaction. She just slaps her hand on like like this.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Oh you gonna. Um up with my hands. Raster. So I googled this while we were talking just to see exactly what this is. So what he actually sued her for is failure to pay overtime and minimum wage in violation of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938. Okay. So it says, while employed, this is coming from all about the tea. While employed with versus company, Winston held positions as a studio manager, event planner, and production coordinator. So he claims that she failed to pay him wages blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:00:27 So I guess he was still working for her salaried in this capacity. Okay. So then, this is so good. Candy is not going to take this shit lying down. So she sued him. And this is why Fadre smart. She'll let Johnny do it all. But again, Fadre really can't get sued because she didn't
Starting point is 01:00:48 say that she wasn't paid. She's letting him do it, right? So in this day and age with phone records and those email chains and people who save three gigs worth of text messages, if you're going to say something slanderous, it better retreat. So this is the quote from Candie's lawsuit. The Grammy songwriter asserts that Johnny intentionally beline defendants reputation in attention. Did, did, did, did Porsche write this?
Starting point is 01:01:11 In addition to harm their reputation and public persona through false and malicious accusations created a false story line to stay relevant on the nationally and internationally broadcast cable television show, the real housewives of Atlanta. Mr. Winston statement were not only slanderous, defamatory, and calculated to injure defendant's public persona and professional brand, but were also in breach of the confidentiality and not disclosure agreement signed by Mr. Winston. He is fuuuck.
Starting point is 01:01:39 He is fuuuck. I like that you can see someone for creating a false story on a reality show. I like that. No, but he is fuuuck and and we've been saying it all along and I make me happy every time we say how stupid he is I'm surprised they didn't bring up a mother's love. Yeah, well, you know what's interesting. Yeah, exactly So what's interesting is to all this like, you know, why did? Why did phage or I keep going to these? So these meetings did she ever think it was a bad idea? Fadre was like, no, I didn't think it was a bad idea. And Candy's like, see? Now, when Angela Stanton, Padre took a book around, you know, she's like,
Starting point is 01:02:12 Angel Stanton, by the way, just some context. It's not everyone knows who she is. She is someone who wrote a tell-all about Fadre, right? Because she was, she was, went to jail along with Apollo for this, this big old fraud that they were doing. Isn't that correct? Yes. So she wrote a book called Lies of a Real Housewife, Tell the Truth and shame the devil, which I can't believe someone didn't tell her. Girl, how are we going to tweet that? You're probably going to hashtag this giant, first Bill Cosby Felicia Rashad. Like, how the hell are we going to sell this?
Starting point is 01:02:45 So this says brazen and size of an outrageous. It spans the years of early childhood through adulthood. It's an illustration of guts and the determination it takes to overcome tragedies. Blah blah blah. Basically, it's her accusations say that she and Apollo were henchmen for Fadre. And Fadre kept herself clean in all of these crimes, which include lots of fraud, lots of crazy shit, and that Fadre totally kept her hands clean. And so when someone had to pay the money, it was Fadre.
Starting point is 01:03:20 And so she always stood by at least kind of help so they wouldn't tell on her and that's why when a Apollo got out She already knew Apollo was ready to have his babies and when he fucked with her she already had a line of Crimes to get him back. So it's okay. He learned his lesson anyway The point is this Candy is like this woman Angela She came to me with this book and was like, let's talk about this on camera, let's talk about this on camera because it would have, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:50 Candy had a way to really drag Fadre on TV and she could have and she was like, I'm not going to do that. I, you know, I'm not like that. Fadre did that with Johnny, but I wasn't going to do that with Angela and then Andy's like Fadra would you be annoyed if Candy met with Angela on the show and Fadra's like I wouldn't be as like everyone was like oh come on please Bullshit yeah no one's gonna fall for that I mean Fadra so lost at this point yeah, he's just like just do whatever Yeah, she's like I'll just say I'm not I'll just try to get out of this and then I stones to my ankles I leaked here the res emails there I said it
Starting point is 01:04:36 I hacked into macron's election didn't do me any good Who doesn't lack a macaron You would hack into a macaron if you could too I Love la durée. What can I say? so so now now so now phadre says that you know phadre is now coming back saying you know candy You're trying to act like you're all cool, but the truth is, you were always insinuating stuff about chocolate, the famous chocolate, and this is when what you were talking about,
Starting point is 01:05:11 when they start talking about dating or not dating, or whatever. And I think that I liked it at this point when, when I think Andy asks, what does Andy ask, Andy again, that leads right into the commercial, because candy is this great line. I want Andy asks, what does Andy ask Candy again that leads right into the commercial because Candy has this great line Well Andy asks something like so what was the deal with Fadera and and and chocolate and Candy's like see No, listen, I'm not gonna run you all the way down on this TV show
Starting point is 01:05:38 Like I'm gonna do it. I don't Like I can just give you I can just finish you now but even I have something to show some mercy. And, Fajira insists that she was talking to a guy, but it was only on the internet she never met him and it was just someone who was supporting me. And you know, everybody's like, grow, grow, push it! Tracker, Shamia, Tracker. And she's just basically just beat down, you know?
Starting point is 01:06:10 Yeah, and I did enjoy, by the way, that when Candy was like, listen, I'm not gonna run this bitch all the way down on TV. They cut to Kenya, and she totally had a Dr. Monica Delmonico face from the end of Soap dish. She just did the smirk, like, hmm.
Starting point is 01:06:23 It's like, I'll do it. She's holding a ear book with it's like I'll do it. She's holding in your book with Fadre's face in it. So Fadre says I said sorry and the person I'm most concerned about is Porsche and Candy's like she starts laughing and she says all I can do is apologize. I can't change what happened. And then Cynthia is like, I'm glad the truth came out child. You know, blinds are harder to put up than people say, child. Like shut up, Cynthia. Literally done nothing this whole season. So they get around to the goodbyes and Andy's like, well, that was fun, guys.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Well, there was wait, before the goodbyes, there was something interesting where there was a question about candy. You know, candy had gone on record saying that Nini was a bad friend because every time there'd be like a fight or a friendship would start to break up, Nini would just put everything out there. It would be like exposed all the secrets. I'd say, Candy didn't you do that? And Candy would be like, see? Now, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:31 I had a mad day, but like it was wrong. It was that wrong. But I had a mad day. See? No, mad day, mad day, mad day. Mm-hmm. I'm see they let her right off the hook. Well, because she own up to it. Oh, and it's big. That's what I'm saying. It's such an easy move to just say, I was wrong on this, but I'm not wrong on this. Because if you say I'm wrong,
Starting point is 01:07:53 how much are people going to argue with you? Yeah. And Fadra, this could have been over in 10 minutes, but it took a damn hour. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, so then it's getting to the wrap up, as you mentioned, and it's like, so then it's getting to the wrap up as you mentioned.
Starting point is 01:08:05 And it's like, so, Fadra, you haven't really copped anything. And she's like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I said, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry. And then it turns to Porsche.
Starting point is 01:08:21 And she's like, well, Pond hand, third hand, first hand, Pond Pond advantage, Pond. Okay, thanks. And then basically he didn't really ask everybody, except he didn't congratulate Kenya, because finally Kenya has learned that if she has one season, where she at least fakes being nice,
Starting point is 01:08:42 she gets all peasy and she did. She was so happy. She's like, not only did she get off easy, but she got to watch her enemies burn. And yep, I'd even Porsche wanted to apologize to Kenya at the end. Porsche was like, her coming band is pain. So I'm sorry Kenya. I'm sorry everyone. I'm sorry moon. I'm sorry tree. You know, she apologized, which I actually, I actually liked that. I'm sorry tree. You know she apologized, which I actually I actually like that I thought that was nice and then
Starting point is 01:09:08 after this like hour of Just pain and misery and crying they're like well We thought we'd do something different Happy birthday Cynthia Yeah, happy When he said 50 cents, Cynthia, 50 cents. I was like, uh, A, you're so white right now. Yes, please stop. B, I think 50 cents been shot like 20 times.
Starting point is 01:09:34 And C, this is the saddest birthday cake ever. It's like, here's your gas station glasses, baited onto the side of the cake. And that's such a reality show trope. The sad birthday party right after a fight. I was sort of hoping that Shemia would bring the cake out with like a fake mustache on and a chef's hat. Chef Jamiya, hi everyone. She's like, hi, I need tripling, tripling, tripling, don't trust, don't trust.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Fraud. Trager, tracker came, you tracker. What a season of it lantern everybody it was a great season it was a crazy season I think I had crazy ratings and I I'm I'm excited to see what the ratings actually are for it, but it was fun We can put it to bed a A big, long, crazy reunion season. Fun days. Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Everybody, so fun. We love you, Real Housewives of Atlanta. So glad you're not back for a long time. So we need a break. Yeah, we do. So everyone, tomorrow we have Southern Charm. And we're going to talk a little bit about Southern Charm Savannah.
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