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Episode Date: September 19, 2018

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to me, man, Ricker? Um, so real house of the Orange County, it picks up last week, left off, which was the, um, Adi's heart birthday, Rad Parta, with Kelly Dodd telling Shane, you're a bitch! You're a bitch! You're a bitch! That's my husband! That's my husband! That's my husband!

Yes, Emily really earned her paycheck. Now, there was some drama last night on L Twitter, which I think we should start with because it is just so hilarious. And we know about this from our Facebook group, so y'all who post all this stuff, thank you so much because you teach me things. I just updated my iPhone and so now it's like, hey, guess what's new in photos? Hey, guess what? Guess what's old in photos? I want to look at my photos without having to look at your god damn. Now my phone's frozen. See, look, I'm telling you, something is still the most professional so on the internet. Okay So I mean fast forward. I was screenshotting a lot of stuff

So Emily wrote something like go read my blog everybody because as usual I have the last word LOL And then Shannon wrote back. I wouldn't be be too sure of that at real OC Emily Huh, we have a long sees me ahead of us dot dot dot and then Tamra wrote yeah the last paycheck I said it the last word which you know is Tamra threatening to fire her because Tamra is the head of everything always You know fuck you Tamra You're the one who brought her on this show and I said at the first episode She brought her on the yell at her and get revenge because she stayed friends with Ricky. And it looks like that is gonna happen. I love being so lucky. Oh, that's really clever. Yeah. Well, Tamara. And then it's a Tamara's a monster. She is. She really is. So then Emily comes back and she goes, oh, Shannon, don't you have a restroom to go run off to and hide in?

Cash tag, Shannon storms off. I think that's pretty good. It's just like fuck you, whoo. It's okay. It's no king of snorkehs. And then Tamrit Judge writes don't go into the bathroom shenan bat That thought that she'll come in there and try to kill you. It's like, okay, you're You're terrible too. These are like the sort of That's like a second grade this That's yeah, but that's all of them, you know, yeah, and Kelly has that market cornered by the way Let's not try and take Kelly's market. Okay. She's the you are of this cast Yeah, and she doesn't well because she usually she usually adds cut fitness to it. You are cut fitness

Which really adds a lot of bite to the the standard you are retort, you know What's rubber? What I mean what is it? I'm rubber glue, whatever you say bounces off me in six to you. Cut fitness. Yes. And have you noticed that that word is totally coming back? And I used to love that word. And I used to say it because, you know, my my British friends in Stuffin, New York would call me that all the time. And then, you know, I had to stop because who says that? Like it's horrible. But I've noticed it's coming back. Like people are using it a lot. A lot of women, a lot of women are reclaiming that word.

Cut fitness is back everyone. Yeah, guys, tell your friends and it's really annoying to me because I feel like I'm being baited. You know, I'm like, oh, they're just telling me it's back. Waiting to get in trouble. You slip up and then you have to do an apology, we have to do an apology episode. Yeah, no, no, that's not gonna happen. Done it once and I think that's pretty much how you're gonna get on me. Okay, so, um, yeah, I really have to fuck up to do that. So let's see here. So Emily is her back at the

front. I was a little old, uh, Shane. She said I was a little bitch and so that's my husband She has a big old bruise on the back of her arm, which is generally the place that Abused to people grab you I'm just saying okay not accusing anybody. I'm just saying what an odd place to have an arm Of course, she also does have to be mean. Yeah, I'm bruised Of course she also does have to be chill. That's what she mean. Yeah, Bruce.

Yeah. I put an odd place, have an arm in your arm side. It was a taster shoulder. What an odd design. I can't help but notice what a strange place for an arm for Emily and we have strange arm placements. Yes, I just don't want to be suggesting that her husband's abusive. I'm suggesting that she has three children and children are abusive.

Okay. It's just another pro choice commercial for watching Your wife she could have been pile driving a door knob, you know, she's like you know, I've had enough I mean the people's elbow right now. I'll be killed all the dogs boom So Kelly who's not drunk at all is like go on Hit me, yo! Hit me, yo! Hit me! And Emily's like, you animal!

You don't talk to my husband like that. Get her the fuck away. Oh, fucking girl, yo! You don't talk to him like that, because he has an opinion and opinion. She has an impression. Those are threats, girl. Those are threats!

And Gina's like, walk away. Listen to me. Gina, look at me in the face. Okay, you look like you smellin' a fart again. I think you can hear me. Think you had a walk away. Walk away. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Wait, the hell is that? Oh my God, I thought it was rumple still skinned. It was Shane. Oh my God, I'm so sorry. He's like, do you have the riddle solved yet? Hey, Kelly. Yeah yeah I'm the riddle. No class, no, no, you don't talk to him like that. Because he has nothing.

And Kelly's like, I don't have class. Look at you. Look at you. I didn't know it was that was our husband. She's the dude. He's the dude. He's a bitch bitch So the tabra is like she's like upstairs like probably doing like an Instagram like photo shoot next to her like Hair dryer and then she's like here's the commotion. She's like batch emergency

Like comes like tumbling down the staircase like I got upstairs for five minutes for a selfie. This is what happens Oh my god, I can't buy that I like to think Tamra just goes up there and ribs offer a stupid fake ankle brace and starts tap dancing around So then Vicki is telling us she She's like, can they fight speed? I would never say something that's a bit out of her mouth. And then we see a montage of Kelly Bingmean. Yeah. She first met Shannon and looks at her, uh, USC, uh, phone case and says, yeah, diversity

is foil to grandma. And then, shut the fuck up! You're a fucking confidence in what you are! You are so fucking dumb! No wonder you're watching it on you! And by the way with the University of Spill Children, it's I still laugh out loud when Channongus Successful children actually I just love when she bristles I just love when she bristles. Does your child have a cover band?

No, okay. I don't know. Maybe you won't be getting a Phoroacy to see the lack in concert. Ladies who lack? So Emily is now sitting with Vicki. She's talking about this stuff. And Shane comes up. The great, the great uh the calming

presence that is Shane he goes who cares who cares I don't care if I don't care what you care you're telling me you value her opinion who cares who get you value her opinion I mean no one her opinions worth nothing king of snorkezzles I'm like do I still do it this week do I not do it? I don't know if it's old this week We laugh every single okay, I'm gonna keep doing it until I can fuck it if everyone thinks it's like an old joke I'm sorry. I'm gonna keep doing it as long as Ronnie laughs. I Will never stop okay? our our listener Richie made a little video of that, of the natural, that reaction,

but he put it over the video from the show, and I love watching over and over and just crack up every time. I was more or five. I was like, we sound like idiots. Who, what? People are like, why aren't you guys bartenders on Watch Your Happens Live?

I'm like, did you see that video? That's why. Because we're sitting here on the internet going, oh, no, no, no, noively chairs being like hey, what am I in the polls? See I saw the new bravo show bravo gay by gay Listen wise man one said you know what I Don't care and I don't if I don't care why do you care? King of star cousin and Vicki you know Vicki is like way of stirring shit by pretending that she's not

stirring shit is so funny she's telling Emily you know what I deal with Kelly okay trust me okay dad is she call your husband a bitch before or after he He says something. I think he tried to piece it all together. Yeah. And then Emily's like, the reason I care Shane is because you're my husband. You're my husband. And Tamer's like, oh my god, come on. This is amazing. Bad stuff. Just a mart. No, it's like gives Tamer alive. And then Shane goes, no, stick with me for a minute Emily. Yeah, just sit here and chill. It's like oh, good. You've got to date with Gollum.

Okay. I know. Watch your ring. Gargamel needs attention. So Emily, you better put that ring in your bra girl because it's about to go missing for a very long time. Yeah, you better, you better, you better step to attention, Asriel. So Emily's like, I can't deal with someone

saying something like that and she's like, then don't hang out with her. I don't care. I'm like, first of all, A, she can't not hang out with her because they're on a show together and B, you do care, something you don't care. Like this is like classic like Nerd like I'm gonna take a page out of Kelly's I'm gonna take a page out of Kelly's book. It's classic nerd

Nerd you act like you don't care you care you have a heart-shing. I know you do Yeah, that's why you're running inside And hiding behind you know he's been called a little bitch's entire life Let's be honest. Yeah, it's shaped him into who he become. And that's what's unfortunate about us nerds is that like ultimately we have been like itself a filling prophecy, you know. People say that stuff enough that then you do become what they say. And it's like it's not fair for Shane. He was formed into this goo that he's become and it's you know it's sad. Sort of not really. And it's, you know, it's sad. Sort of, not really.

Yeah. Look, do what the rest of us do, OK? Get a podcast. The sad thing is when I was watching him, I was like, oh my god. Thank you so much. I was like, I feel like he's someone I would play board games with. So last week when she did that, when she was like, you're just a dork. And you just saw it to look in his eyes.

It was like, and it's like that junior high look, when you're being beat up and thrown into lockers and stuff. You know, I was there. So I saw that. And I feel that the fence. Second, because, you know, that, and I said this last week, so sorry to repeat, but it is Kelly, a cheerleader, like a gorgeous, popular cheerleader, just finally being like, you're, you're a dork and calling you short and stuff like that. So I did feel bad for him but you know like i always says sometimes people need to be thrown into a locker no i yeah no i agree because the thing is you do do you do build those defenses you like like that's the only way he's but he's been called that a lot and

the only way his only defense mechanism has been to just be sniveling back and at like to be like i don't care, she's drunk, you care what her opinion is, it's the only way that he can defend her, not defend her, the only way he can come back is with that sort of behavior. It's the only way he knows how to protect himself. Because if you were to say that her opinion actually matters, then it's like he has to face the heart of that.

But it, so that's what I mean. I would feel worse. I mean, I would feel worse like because what I just said, I felt bad. I was like, oh my god, he is a dork and it, so that's what I would feel worse. I mean, I would feel like, because what I just said, I felt bad. I was like, oh my God, he has a door. And she's a bully. And she's a cheerleader.

So my natural response is like, it's all cardinal. He's also an adult. And he's also sitting there arguing with a woman, which fuck you, dude. And he thinks that that's okay because he does it with his wife all the time who's just like, it's not casual.

And so he thinks it's hilarious and he can say whatever he wants and make comments like, you're drunk. And this is your personality all the time. So yeah, fuck him. Yeah, that's the thing. It's like he built up this thing, but now he's old enough where he should work through it

and learn how to cope with life. Like he's not an in-sell, like I don't think. So like, at this point, he should have like learned proper social graces and like learned how to work through that shit that like informs a lot of people's personalities in high school in college and like hopefully there's like a course correction as you reach the real world and sometimes there's not and sometimes when there's no course correction, you know what you turn into, oh bitch!

That's what you are! You're a bitch! You're a door! You're a door! So Emily. He's like who cares? And Emily says well when someone is speaking about my husband My responses to protect him and my marriage and take tell Kelly down I mean, what if the guy would sing that about me? What if the guy did that's a beautiful? Any there's something smelling here. No, just my face and shingles. Um, I take you out of

Situation and I believe sure You know what we should do right now. Let's ditch this party and go find some sardines Who wants some my who wants some anchovies? No, I just imagine these are things he probably likes to do, which admittedly I would do too. If someone said, can we just leave this party and find some sardines? I'd be like, hell yes! So... Yeah.

Geez. Anyway, let's leave this space where I'm getting called on my shit and go back home where I can just talk to women like this all the time. So now I only want to take Kelly down now. And outside, Tamra goes hobbling over to Kelly to get the time. So now Emily wants to take Kelly down now and outside Tamra like goes hobbling over to Kelly to and Chan to get the deeds and Kelly's like she told me she was gonna kill me she told me she's gonna kill me Kelly Kelly so we're gonna kill me you that's what a god

you're gonna kill me she's gonna kill me she's gonna be classless she's gonna be classless And she's trying to kill me. She's a lawyer. She's a lawyer. I can see you right now. You stupid bitch. You're dumb fuck. That's what you are. So you're right now. You mean you're dumb fuck. You're a lawyer and I'm the lawyer too. I want to judge you. Mmm. I'm a person. That makes me dead like if there are multiples of me. I'm people. And therefore I go to people's court.

If I had known Steve was Emily's husband, I wouldn't have called him a pussy. That makes me dead like if there are multiples of me on people and therefore I go to people's core If I had known Steve was Emily's husband I wouldn't call him pussy But I don't like people getting in my business So then Vicki and Steve and Emily are all talking and Vicki likes exciting people at the party. Yeah, cuz Tamras running rank like oh my god It's like Tamer's version of Pat and I'm sparklers. You know, it's worth it to lie. So excited that this shit went bad at her party. She just upset that she wasn't like at the source of it, you know?

So Steve is with Vicki and Steve's like, well I don't know why Kelly is messing with me. I mean, I don't know why. I know why, because I'm friends with her ex. But you know what though though he's a great guy Like is Michael really the hill you want to die on Steve? Is that really think about it? Just think about it And again dumb dumbs it's not because you set her husband up It's that she never she vicking never called her her talked to her about it or anything

She had to find out from the internet so it all feels Let's not try and make it sound you know, let's let their their changing their moving the goalposts Yeah, they say on the internet so because like oh my god she took the file for you and he's like oh this is you Women and your silliness, you know and Vicky's like well, you know, be I'm all about drama and everybody getting a log You know love love love that's me. We're happy You know what I want right now? That's Jesus, thank you, Jesus. You know what I want right now?

And like, she's like, star deans. No, I want my pajamas, hot tea, and sign felt. I was like, I did not peg Vicky to be a sign felt fan. That was a surprise twist. Well, so of course he loves a show that's like season after season about nothing. You know, it's like season after season about nothing Like her personality

She's still trying to figure out what master of my own domain is she's like yeah, that means they work I owe Vicki govall said that cops a second. I'm a master of my own domain. Yeah, me and Linda So it's like Then Vicki's like I'm gonna go bye bye. Bye princess. Bye. Bye. Bye. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody.

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You know, it's very weird, but I think that must be a lot of it. Well, I think they keep it because it's like little jabs at Vicki makes. It's like, bye, good job. Bye, don't treat too much. Bye, stop fighting. Bye, it's like, every bye is like how she's better than everybody else. It's like one little thing she sticks in there,

fucking Vicki. So then Kelly, who's just ready to bar brawl at this point. Yeah. You know, like Kelly, who's not drunk at all, is like, good luck with your boyfriend. Yeah, good luck with that. Good luck with that. And then Vicki just goes away

because she's like, do not hit me. I'm a my new strapless t-shirt dress. Was that being hit? Yeah, I'm going a scarf now, don't hit me. So, like, how about the cut outs I met? Oh, yeah. So Kelly is now with Shannon and Tamra and she's like, yeah, so Michael's dating Steve's ex like the girl

That might that Steve used to date Michael's eating her now Michael is yeah, as Steve told the girl that he's only using Vicky for money Yeah, I swear to God that little bitch said it swear to God Money talks and bullshit walks, okay? You think that guy's gonna just hit it and quit it? It's like she fits as many 90s shit as many 90s things as she can in the win-sense. She thinks that he's all that with a bag of chips! Oh, did you see what they were talking of chips being here? I'm sorry.

I didn't use one. Thank you. Oh, if anybody sees a little man named Nacho, it would be great to send him out over here. So Kelly, uh, Tamra's little satanic head props up and check. Where? There's set a thick as a monst, right? And Kelly's like, yeah, my book is a bad guy.

He's hiding something and everyone should know what kind of person he is. And then meanwhile, there's like a, then like Tamer Whatever she wants. I'm like, what is, so if you're not normally allowed to eat food, what is going on in this house old? No, Tamra's probably the time to like be like, okay, chicken breasts. That's that. Two con nuts and some chicken breasts.

Hahaha. Did you notice when Shannon says something like, oh God, you really think that he's just with her for her money? And she's just, yeah, I mean, it's the public Catholic. And then they did a little violin sound effect to Shannon's eyes because she looked at the side and went, Blink, and she looked back at Cali doing. Blink? She's like, is this going to get me in trouble?

And then meanwhile, Tim was like, I don't know the answer to that question, Batch. Meanwhile, Tim was like, I don't know the answer to that question, Batch. And I did to have fun as your party, I forgot to get your presents. And he's like, you are my present. Wrong. But I wouldn't mind some lady guy got to get so... Um, please don't make me take a bath with you tonight. Please! David?

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and the fight and everything and Vicky is talking about how Kelly still apparently has issues about Steve being friends with Michael. Yes. Hey girl, I'm regular doorbell. Oh, I like your doorbell. It's very loud. It's very loud doorbell. Awesome.

Your house is clean. Wow, look at that. Wow. Yeah, it's great. Do you have a room bar? You should really try to work it out with a room bar. Oh good, do you have a side that says kitchen? Oh good, I'm glad you have that. Oh good. You got a checker board T cattle Good good. I like that. It's whimsical reminds me of the man says yeah

So Tamara says oh my god, I haven't heard from Emily yet But she's gonna come over. I just need to know what's happening cuz I got two stories I gotta get to the bottom of their How about you get your own fucking storyline for one of the camera? Okay, Jesus is busy this season. Yeah, like start a fight. Yeah, do something on your own, you hang your on. So Vicki says, I know exactly what happened.

It's very clear. I can tell you, woo, woo, look at this. Look at this, I self-appitute it, hope. Okay. Then a bird slimes into the kitchen window and dies. She's like, sorry, I guess they're following me that I don't even I don't even get that reference but her office like the birds the windows that he got what does that mean he's lost like

anywhere that Vicki goes birds are just slamming it to window and falling to He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, I'm a friend with Michael or whatever it is and Vicki is saying that that Steve just said it like they called up Steve And he said yeah, you know Michael. He's cool guy whatever. That's how Vicki says it was Yeah, I think Kelly's whole issue is like he shouldn't have said anything in the first place like don't talk to page six about My divorce. I think that's her issue In the context of the fact that it was all sort of behind her back and this just she didn't know, you know And so of course Kelly is like super mature when she gets back because The context of the fact that this was all sort of behind her back. And that's just she didn't know, you know. And so of course Kelly is like super mature when she gets back because she goes, so then he says that no matter if it hurt or I didn't be to hurt him, that's just how it happened,

that's just how it is. And then suddenly she puts this tweet, Steve lodges a D bag with his pig of the girlfriend at on 42. I mean, what is she? Why does she sit there after that? Oh my god, dig dog. My favorite thing. My favorite. Oh my god. That dog bell. That dog bell. It's wonderful. Ding ding ding. What a great, what a great town. Sound. Oh my god. Have you ever had a clock tower? That is so. You know I go down down down down down down down down down down's amazing amazing song. I'm gonna I'm gonna go see the movie the

The terror with what what is that move that movie the terror with what with clocks of its walls That's what it's called I'm gonna go see I'm gonna go see the tower with Bob and as well I love that good ring, you know, I once I love that ring so much I went and rented the ring It was not about doorbells though. I was very very disappointed I was great to see you in a starring real Tamra Tamra just felt a lot of a well I bet You know the ring is like the last horror movie I saw.

That's like the reason why I mentioned it so much, because I am not updated my horror references. You love your ring. I like to think as Tamra more is that little doll from InCityus, where she's just like a little doll and engaged and people move in. They're like, oh my god, look, a little natural, old lady doll. This is crazy, and it's like so innocent. Let's just leave it in the cage.

And then the mom turns crazy and starts murdering everybody. Is that in city or is that the conjuring? Oh, for Christ's sake, I don't know. I'm adding to either, because it's too scary. I'm like, the trailer will do me fine. Thank you, sir. Well, I mean, we should have just gone straight to House of Wax, really.

You're talking about real house I think you're already there we're there so See you bridge Emily shows up and She's like hi, well, I should have been more reasonable last night. That's me Emily reasonable. Okay And I'm saying I'm gonna kill her. I mean obviously it's a figure of speech and Tamragus. Okay, that's my channel Calla Thanks and then we get a clip in Ireland

Tamra being mean to Kelly and Kelly walking away going God, I wonder if the kid doesn't want to be or No wonder kids ghosting her whatever and Tamragus like And then to traumatize the car with Shannon going, she's like panting. By the way, it's being a figure of speech, a Shannon Bedore apparently tweeted last night something like, well, I certainly have never heard of. I'm going to kill you all as a figure of speech.

I've never used it at all. And then, Leanne Locke and replied to her with a like it like a gift It was just like OMG as in like I say it all the time like yeah, oh this food was wonderful here. Thank you so much I'm gonna kill you figure speech Hey, I asked for a bread reef. I'm gonna kill you. Thank you Pedro. Thank you Merry Christmas to all and to all me to kill you. Thank you so much. Rubberdough, dumb thanks for the grub. Yeah, God. I'm gonna kill you. God The big is like oh

No, you go ahead. I've really done that. Well, we're still talking about this. I don't know Nothing like happens in the scene, but we're just talking about it But basically Vicki thinks that Kelly wants Kelly wants to see her and Steve fall apart. Oh, yeah. She's like, well, she doesn't give a fuck about Steve. Missorable people would just want other people miserable. That's what it is. The miserable people have misery.

Misery loves misery. Okay, misery. Companies are full of misery. Who loves misery? Companies. Hello. I know for a fact, because one time I rented misery and then I was like, oh my god, I want someone else to rent this too. I was like, misery loves misery companies. Hello. I know for a fact, because one time I rented misery, and then I was like, oh my god, I want someone else to rent this too.

I was like, misery loves misery. So Tamara, she's like, well, Kelly said that Steve, that's only with you for your money. And I like that like, Tamara says this, and then later on in the episode, Tamara is like, I don't think she really loves him. And I'm like, but here she's acting like she's just a messenger when obviously later on she's acting like, you know what's that, right?

So then she goes, and then it's the first part of every season trying to get everybody to do what she wants to. And then at the end of the season, when it doesn't work because everybody else is kind of an adult and they can just talk it over and be done with it, then Tamra comes in with the big guns and starts screaming and yelling her hair off. I mean, it happens every single year. And so then after she says this, what Kelly said, Tamra tells us,

I thought it was appropriate to tell Vicki what she said. You know, because the worst thing in this group is like when a rumor goes around and around and not goes, not doesn't go to the actual person. I'm like, no, you have not like, you were not doing any favors right now. You were just part of the rumor chain You're just the one who delivered the rumor like you like like This she's basically saying a rumor is just gonna go around from person to person to person to person and eventually get to Vicky

Well, guess what? That's what it's been doing and you're the one who brought to Vicky You do not get any awards for just being the last part of the Daisy chain May also Kelly would have said it right to Vicki's face, and I'm sure she probably will say right to Vicki's face, because when Vicki was leaving, Kelly was like, good luck with that, like trying to get Vicki to stay. Vicki was refusing to fight.

So I'm sure that all that stuff that Kelly said, she was waiting to scream in Vicki's face. Yeah, exactly. And then Vicki's mad. She's like, shit, my hair, for talking about my relationship. You know, and she's like pointing this left me. Everybody's got to what I have! By the way, I don't have very much Betty, sit up and yes. But I feel like I'm gonna be fine.

Anyways, so now we go on. Just a note, just a small note. We'll move on. Vicky, ain't nobody jealous of one god damn thing you have. Okay. Not a one. Once you got your head out dresses, not your lease car, not your fake companies. None of it. Okay.

CAC with your fake cancer insurance that you totally made up while your boyfriend was lying about having cancer. Okay. With the herbal supplements that you were trying to sell while your boyfriend was fucking faking cancer. I really can't wait to you start talking about Christianity. ma'am! Okay, I was, I was slightly jealous of her Calliante sign, but you know, that's a different era, a different time in our lives. Um, so now we go on to Shannon going on her first blind date, huh? So, uh, she's, is her first blind date since separating from... David, David! David!

So she's showing up at someplace, maybe the region, the region or whatever, St. Regis, wherever it is. And she is limping out of the car because apparently this season's all about foot injuries. So she still has her issue. And she's going on blind date with a guy named Tom, which of course, I'm sure anyone who watches Housewives Snickers, if the mere mention of the word Tom. I know I did. So she meets him and he is handsome.

A little gaysh, just a little gaysh, not because he's sensitive, just a little gaysh. Because he's like, hey gorgeous. Oh my god, I can't believe you were those high heels with a busted ankle. Oh my god. I'm not trying to out anyone, but I was I was feeling a vibe Also he seems to be at that place a lot because I hostess says um, hello, ma'am But you want basically in shanets like I'm here to meet a friend his name is Tom

I'm just oh mr. Oh Right this way. Like, oh, snaple. So, yeah, he's like, you are, Gargis, I, okay, I was my hotel. Well, first I sit in front of the fire. And Jan is like, can we turn off this fire? It is so hot. Okay, you're right, but maybe ask for a different table, because this is for the whole restaurant.

Yeah, exactly. It's on you. And he's like, it is kind of hot. I agree. So he's so nervous that he orders a Vodka Tito's with Tonic instead of a Vodka Tonic with Tito's. So that was cute. I mean, I like Tom. Let me tell you something.

I think Tom is a great choice. And I think that they would make a great couple together. Yeah, but he just says all the wrong things. He's like, well, I've been divorced too. And basically the first year all I did was just cry. And she goes, oh, she's like, she was so happy. That was like the moment she deflated right there. Yeah, that was ridiculous.

He goes, you know, like the Sarah McLaughlin with the dogs video, you know what I'm talking about, weeping. Basically weeping on the floor, sobbing. Okay, I did actually drink salt water because my body was deficient. Oh, and then Shannon goes from light being enthusiastic to being like, okay, very, very well. Well, I was gonna look down at a imaginary spot

on the table clock and just sort of stare at that for a moment Give a nice Kurt response. Oh, okay, so and then he's like so Oh, and this is also in the context that he asked about David. He's like so does your Your ex is he like a really sporty he played sports. Oh, I mean David Thanks for mentioning him. I'm trying not to think about him on the stage. Thank you. Thank you Want to cry about it. You can. God. So sad even I'm about to cry. I'm gonna cry. They're gonna fight cry He's a little bitch, huh? He's a little bitch. Oh wow. He really is rubbing off on me So she tells us. Yeah. Oh, yeah, she tells us. Oh, I've never been with somebody who cries

So clearly Tommy Sonsan, I like Tom, but Cry's What? Lots of cats, lot of cats, lot of crying cats, God that's two things that sound like this Wow, and I don't know if I could be the third I kind of think that Shannon needs a guy who can cry. I like, that's her problem.

She's with like, like a stone pillar. She's been with a stone pillar of a man and now she needs, I think she needs someone who's emotional and sensitive. Uh, not when you're emotional and sensitive. Because sometimes like you need to, like Shannon is the one who cries, you know, it's like how could you order me chicken wings on my birthday Like Shannon is just she cried the whole damn time She's cried ever since we've known her on this show, you know, but Yeah, but it's but tears don't tears aren't fire they put out fire, you know what I mean?

It's just like a water on water. It's just, at least a mold. I just feel, I feel like it seems, I know what you're saying. She's the cryer, so she needs someone who's a little bit more emotionally stable. But I feel like she would feel so emotionally gratified if the two of them just like held each other and cried once, like once a week a week you know just like had a good cry together they watch an AT&T commercial from the 80s and they're like let's let's do it let's cry let's cry we gotta cry this one up can we just

reach it out she's reaching out to her father ah long distance it was so affordable for them I'm crying harder now. He's like, I think it would be, I think she would like that. I think she would actually really like that a man she can cry with. I think she would. Okay, well, I guess we'll see, but I don't think so, because she doesn't seem like eyes with 20 caps to cry, but we'll see.

Well, I'm better than a man who's going to take it on Harley Davidson, which is what Steve does for Vicki. I'm like, oh God. God, don't to Harley Davidson, which is what Steve does for Vicki. I'm like God God, don't you love when your man buys you something he wants. I feel like the last time we went to a Harley Davidson dealership on the show wasn't that what didn't Simon bring Tamra to a Harley Davidson and then she got like that Simon tattoo on her finger and like he got it. Oh, it's like Like please what this This is Bravo. Why are you putting, why are you forcing Harley Davidson on us?

We're here to watch Bravo, not Harley Davidson. Like, we're not watching A&E. We're not watching Discovery. Okay, we are watching Bravo. Sir. Happy birthday. You get motorcycle letters. Yeah, and a helmet.

So then we cut to Gina Face Timing camera and Timers, I'm packing for Destiny World. I'm just concerned about this but some of that's. I'm like, okay, who cares? Fast forward. Mike, you live next to Disneyland. Why are you doing this to yourself? I mean, I know they're different. There's a there's a world of difference. Truly a world of difference. But seriously, you're next to Disneyland. Oh, yeah, they went to Disney World. Yeah, they went to Disney World. Disney World's better. I mean, it's way better. It is way better. I understand. I just wanted to I wanted to feel anger about something and I felt like this was I was going to do it right there.

I know I get it. Disney World is way better. It's so much better. It is actually so much better Like like the magic castle in or the whatever the Cinderella's castle in Disney World is like huge And the one in Disneyland is literally shorter than my apartment building and I'm on the Yeah, and it's not cute and Disneyland is a very well-capped. It looks really kind of like I think it's well-capped I just don't think it's as interesting and there are tomorrow land is all like it's all like a 1920s view of the future whereas Disney World's tomorrow and is like a 60s or 1980s view of the future which I like more

Yeah, I'm with you. Thank you. Um, it's like you know Tamra. She's like I'm back off the future. I know You know, Tamra, she's like, come back out of the future. No! I can't believe you just compared Tamra to tomorrow, and it's Tamra land. I can't tell you how to tell. I mean, you can see like different versions of Tamra's face as you spin around on the little travel thing. I feel like having a relationship with Tamra is sort of like going on space mountain, you know.

You have to strap yourself in and you get plunged into darkness and you're going, you're moving in so many different directions, you don't know which way is up and you're terrified the entire time. And when it's over, you're like, that was horrifying. And I think I'm I do again. Yeah, you think it was really fun, but you were in the dark and then the pictures you see after you, you can realize how upset you really were by the whole experience. the pictures you see after you you can realize how upset you really were by the whole experience. And at certain times the year instead of seeing planets you see monsters in the sky. I like the thought of her in tomorrow land because you know how that one switches it like turns you around the stuff or maybe that's haunted mansion that where you you're on that thing and it

keeps swiveling around like the thing that you're in. Oh yeah, when you're in things. Yeah, I feel like that's probably. I like that because you're swiveling down and Tamra's like if anybody ever talks about my husband, my husband and then it swivels around and shows Tamra talking shit about everybody else's husband. It's like Tamra's like contradictions and hypocrisy, you know, Tamra is basically like she's also like all those generic rides that are in the, you know, the fantasy land, which is like the, the boring one, which is like, it's like Mr. Toad's Wild Ride or Snow White, where you get on a little cart and you just like ride around through happiness.

It's like, oh nice and everything. I've, Mr. Toad's, she's actually Mr. Toad's Wild Ride because everything is nice and lovely. You're in the forest with all the woodland creatures And just when everything seems to be nice your little cart gets plunged into darkness and you go to hell The ride actually goes to hell because you get run over by a car in the middle of the ride and then you're in hell You're in little toad hell and that is tamer right there toad hell Tamer is every wench in Pirates of the Caribbean

hell. Tamras every wench in Pirates of the Caribbean. She's also like every little doll and it's a small world you know because she's like she's gonna just like fucking get into your head whether you like it or not you're like oh yeah I'm just gonna have coffee with Tamra. It's a small world after all bitch it's a small world after all bitch it's a small world after all bitch. It's a small world after all bitch at the small world after all batch batch And like you leave like it's a small world and that's how she gets in your mouth. That's after all batch And then she's always whispering you know how those dolls are always turning to each other and whispering and it's like by the end They're all just setting each other's worlds on fire, you know It doesn't matter what country she's in she's getting And she's gonna instigate some shit shit but it starts all peaceful and by the end

it's a small world is up in flames you know everybody's like murdering each other throwing each other off the platforms yeah that she is fully like that she is fully fully like that so then we get okay so I'm coming out of Disney then guys don't worry so Emily and Kelly is like we haven't seen each other. Maybe we should have a talk. And he was like, okay. So in the meantime, Gina arrives to talk about her deforese switch. I couldn't give two crafts about, how about you? Zero crafts, because we never even met the guy.

Yeah, it was a boring, but here's what, we never met the guy. We never met the guy, we just see wild children in a poorly decorated house with a fireplace that's not centered properly. So why am I supposed to care? Yeah, Gina just keeps repeating the same. She's a big repeater, you know. She's one of those girls who'll spend three hours on the phone with telling you all about her husband

and then you'll call to check up on her and she'll tell you all those stories again. And then you realize she's not talking to me. She's just perfecting her monologue. Yeah, because she has no one else to talk to. Yeah. Yeah, it's the same exact thing over and over. She's like, I don't feel like my marriage with the fail.

Yeah, I just feel that it's ending. It's not that we failed. It's just that we're going into different chapters now. I grew up in a bubble of long Island. And we came here and there was so much space, and he went over the end. I went over here and I was like, oh my god, we have a picnic table for a dining room table

and what sort of life is this? I don't know if I want anymore. Wait, he's growing up hot. Like even Emily's like, I'm Emily and you're boring me. So, like you walk into my house and you think everything's perfect. No, we don't. You just literally have a sign that says perfect.

That's what, it's like you're forcing people to say things in your house. You know what I mean? You're the most unperfect house on Bravo at the moment. Like it's so clearly imperfect, really based on the decor alone. Like really, just take it, no one can even be living in there,

just looking at, I'm like, you are the one that's buying this stuff from TGMX, okay? This is you, you're the one. We were wondering who was buying it, it's you. Yes, of course there's problems in your marriage because he's coming home and he's seeing this shit. He's like, is this what I married? Is this what I moved to California for? I want open space. I want no clutter. I want decor from CB two. Yeah, and it's hard to tell because we don't really

know his side of the story. So all like a horrible, you know, he's terrible. Yeah, he's hot. I mean, but I'll like and go off is what I've seen, which is he they moved to Oc then he got a job in LA and she wanted to stay in OC because she's on this show. So I'm not really sure who's writer who's wrong in this situation, but it seems like those are the bare minimum facts, right? They also act like he moved to Alaska. Okay, he is like, yeah, sure, he's, well, he's like a little bit north of LA. So it's still a pain in ass being although people make that commute as it is anyway so just we won't even see friends in Santa Monica oh I agree listen I wouldn't do it but I'm just saying like if you have a family you can make it work because a lot

of people do okay so I have a friend who lives in Silver Lake who works in Irvine so think about that huh I will please so anyway I will. Please. So anyway. Oh, I will. I will. I will. So anyway, so now we, when we transition out of this scene, we see something that is so orange County. It's probably just Southern California in general.

So I'll, like it's probably LA too. It's these two red Chevy muscle cars. I think there were probably Camaro's or something. There were definitely red Chevy's tailgating each other as they speed down the road. I was like were probably Camaro's or something. They were definitely red Chevy's Tailgating each other as they speed down the road. I was like two fucking assholes right here Identical cars twin. Did you see those cars? Did you see that? They were twin cars like trying to race each other I was like, okay, this is clearly a tamer son and like one of the OC Angels getting their rocks off One of the OC Angels It totally one of those the angels. It's one of Tammy Naker-Bocker's daughters, boyfriends.

So yeah, that was really gross. And of course, it leads right into Vicki's birthday, which is also gross. So they go to some Mexican restaurant and see it's like, congratulations. I'm having a birthday party with all of my family. Yeah. Just another thing that every woman wants.

Vicki, this is not the man for you. I hate a gring. Vicki, this is not the man for you. I hate a gringo's hammer, but this is not the guy for you. Well, they walk in and she's like, we don't have, we don't have a reservation and then they turn and there's like three people. Surprise! She's like, oh my god! And it really is, it's Steve's mom Helga and his aunt Ursula. I want to know about Helga and Ursula just on the names alone. Yeah, well, well, she's like, oh my god, I can't believe we pulled it off. It's a surprise. It's a surprise. Oh my god, I feel so popular. I'm like, really, with the mom and the great air and the mom's like, you deserve it. Which I don't know. Where she's from or what kind of accent that was, but I thought that was hilarious. They need to follow her switcherland switcherland

I I firmly believe it switcherland and I want I just want to like can we stop the season and just follow her back to the Alps Where's Alps where she is? I'm like what I'm like I'm a switcher land and Alps anyway We're talking about all this going back through time I'd like to go back through time and see where he got chavez from I can tell you actually thank you for bringing that up because I actually did research and I found there's a surprise twist So he actually was born Steve Chavez and his Stepfather is Lodge and so he always went by Steve Lodge And we're all the shenanigans where all the controversy came from Bella they're like, oh my god Chavez is that he always went by Steve Lodge through all his formal government records, everything he did, but when he ran

for office in Anaheim back in 2012, suddenly Chavez reappeared and so someone sued saying he was being like, like he wasn't being honest or whatever, that he was using it, he was using Chavez for political gain, which is pretty much what it looked like. So that's where that all came from. And during my research, what I found out, his brother is Roger Lodge. I don't know who that is. Of blind date.

Speaking of blind dates, huh? Blind date. Oh. Remember blind date, Roger Lodge was the host of blind date and if you think about it They do look alike and if you look at Roger lodge was born rohili O Chavez Oh my god, and then yeah, Stanley went on her blind date and then they were talk bubbles. So it all makes sense So yeah, so he really is he really is Steve Chavez Steve Chavez, Steve Chavez Lodge, but the shiftingness is that like,

he really only brought out the Chavez part when it seemed to suit him politically. But I think the big takeaway is that his brothers Roger Lodge, that's like my favorite thing that I learned today. I'm like really excited about that. Well, while we're talking about appropriating culture, here's Billy in a sombrero.

I know, and the music is like, ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang ttang tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tanaana tantana tantana tantana tanaana tantana tantana tanaana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana tantana t Alfredo, Heather DeBros, busboy. Vicki's like, oh my gosh, did you know he was coming? Did you know Steve? And did you know Mike? And Mike's like, yeah, Mama organized it. She goes, oh, thanks Steve. And he's like, gosh, no, Mike did it. Oh, thank you, Steve. Thank you, thank you, Steve, for everything you do for me.

I'm like, what part of your son did it? Do you not understand Vicki? I know. And Vicki's like, I want to be Vicki Chavez. Vicki Chavez, that's what I'm going to be. Vicki Chavez. And I just felt like I could hear the entire Latino community of planet Earth saying, no, no, no, no, please, no, no. Yeah, TVs all across America are now covered in bean tin from people just losing it. And being like, fuck you, Vicki. And then Vicki's like, you better not let me

dead, Mr. Chavez. I'm gonna tell you're better. And if you're sick, I want medical records. Okay. I'm not funny for that again. These Vicki, where to bring Brooks up and the surprise party that see Flan'd for you. Yeah. I don't care about stuff. I care about the person. I would do it a trash collector if the two I fell in love with a very rich trash collector Yeah, Vicki billy's like no you wouldn't Vicki wouldn't date a waiter Like I would I would did a trash collector because really hey, what do you think Steve and Steve because I think what she means She doesn't need to be with the man just because of his money. Unlike some people we know. Okay Steve,

now you two, now you're gonna be a little bit too. So now we've got Steve and Shane as the new housewives of this show. And I love it because I cannot wait for Steve to get ram-rotted by Kelly. I don't think that Steve is a little bit. I think Steve is just sort of, he's like a, he's like a nila wafer, you know, just like, he's like a nila waffer, you know? Just like, he's like a nila waffer who wants to fight with other girl nila waffers that have other boy. Oh my goodness. Hi.

You know, I have very mixed feelings on that because like the chivalrous side of me is like, a man shouldn't fight with, well, man, a man should definitely not raise a hand to a woman ever. No one should really raise a hand to anyone, but like a man, I firmly believe that. But like this whole thing of like, if it bothers me, some, in a weird way it bothers me, like we see it a lot on Atlanta of like, a man can only fight with a man, a woman can only fight with a woman, and there's something kind of, there's something like old-fashioned about that that makes me feel weird. I kind of feel like if a woman. And there's something kind of, there's something like old fashioned about that that makes

me feel weird. I kind of feel like if a woman is being rude to a man, a man can say, can clap back. I kind of feel like we should be at that place. And I just as a woman should be allowed to clap back to a man. But then at the same time, I also understand it's kind of, I understand both sides and I don't know how I feel I know I'm saying it. I feel like I feel like you just need to be a fucking gentleman about it. Okay, it's not like it's every woman

in the world, but if it's a friend of your wife and your, you know, here's the thing. You're at a party or something with somebody and some some lady tries to start shit with you. Why couldn't he just say Kelly, I really didn't mean to hurt your feelings. I apologize that it did hurt your feelings. I have friends with, I am friends with your ex has been and we should have told you and I get that you're offended because we didn't say anything. We were just in an awkward position. I agree. You know, Kelly is easy to talk down if you just talk her down from that ledge, but instead he acts like

a fucking prick about it and he's disrespectful and that Shane's the same way. Well, I agree. I think you can just fucking get into an argument with a woman. That is just crazy, okay. It's not that we don't have the right to. It's that you just need to be a fucking gentleman about it, you know? No, I agree.

He should have been a gentleman. It's not even about being a gentleman. It's that he should have just been like a decent person and said exactly what you said. But I just, you know what it is? I feel where I start to feel weird when people say, like, well, you shouldn't be fighting with a woman. It's almost as if to say, like,

I know you're not saying it, but I feel like the implication that gets sort of like, reiterated through these things is that like, you know, a man, a man will fight with a man, and we'll leave the women to fight over women stuff. And it sort of implies that like, women's shit is just trivial and like lesser than and I know you're not saying that but I think that's like the the underlying message that gets put forth and I don't know how to I don't know how to to to rationalize but like I forget the right word but recon can really The urge to be like yeah like like I get it a man should be gentlemanly with that idea of like

But I don't want to be but how do we not say that without being totally patronizing to what women are like fighting about you know Well, I think women have taken enough shit of men talking down to them without having some man Just come be disrespectful at them and like some social thing Well, I mean it's not the. Well, that's not the disagreeing. It's not the disagreeing. It's the way that they do it. Like Peter is the one that was called a bitch on real housewives of Atlanta. Right. Because Peter gets right into it and starts screaming and yelling, you know, like a bitch.

Like he really does. So, but there's also this interesting thing where it's like, I want my man to defend me. And then like, what a guy like butts's in it's like oh he's a bitch so like what do people really want you know I don't know I mean I said eight that's a lot eight that last question what do we want well that's the thing I mean that I mean we'll get back the the the recap in like literally 10 seconds but I but I think what's interesting about this entire conversation is that like our views on how we treat like Our our views on how we treat women or the roles that women have always been put in and men have been put in are

Changing and what I struggle with is trying to figure out a way to to like to be what I feel like it is give respect that has not been given before while at the same time also acknowledging like that I understand these other impulses and it's like we're in a time of transition. I think it's a good thing. There. Yeah. I'm here to watch it. I'm not here to watch men fight with women. I just not. I mean, Charles, that's a different

thing. Something like Charles, we don't talk like this on Charles of Sunset. This is specifically a show about women being friends. So it's different. Yeah. But he still sort of been he's still didn't but the point still remains at what you said of what he should have said. Oh my god. I know. But you know what? This is the time we're living in now where it's like this is every discussion and it makes me crazy and it makes it not about political correctness. It's not about political correctness. It's just like it's an aware I think we are just in a time where we are like we are becoming more aware that like throw away comments, they really contribute to, to these deep like paradigms that we have in society.

And so it's not about being politically correct of like, no, that's not nice anymore. It's more like thinking of like, wow, like how can, how can I change how I say things that way I can stop a cycle? You know? Because one of the reasons why these cycles continue forward of racism and homophobia and sexism is because there are so tiny little things that just contribute to it. And so at the same time, I also don't want to be overly ridiculous, like totally policing every single thing I say, but at the same time, sometimes things pop up where I'm like, it's more like a flag goes up, and this is another example of how we get sort of like, we sort of get goaded into certain mentality about how we treat women versus men, etc.

That's all. Yeah, well, I mean, I've just watched us for housewives, not the boyfriends or husbands of the housewives. And it's always but when they start fighting. So when he makes little comments, like, oh, we're not doing it. You're not just just with me because of my money. Unlike some people, we know. It's like, oh, really, Steve, you can't even just take this nice moment to like have fun

and not poke at somebody. You're not in this cast, okay? You're a friend of at best. Sir. Well, yes, here's the thing. I don't begrudge him saying that, but I feel like if you're gonna start acting like that, be more interesting.

Right. That's all. Yeah, I don't know that Steve's gonna be able to change that part. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. Like we said, the elevator. So he already tried and it was going to the Harley store.

Nope, you're still boring. Now you're just a boring guy on a very dangerous vehicle, sir. Yeah. So next up, Vicki, and Vicki is trying to be like, oh, best day ever. It's the best day ever. Oh my God, this is the best breath I had. She's pretty much, oh, she's singing.

Like, she's hamming it up. And it's like the most boring shit we've ever sat through. I even felt bad for Vicki and I never feel bad for Vicki. I know, she's pretending like she can't do a shot anymore. I'm like, oh, like if this is, if this is gonna be Steve's legacy that Vicki won't be doing shots anymore, then that's the biggest offensive thing that he's done. Most offensive thing. Yeah. So now is the next day and guess what? Never want to be left behind. Vicki now has a like problem too. Her foot has swollen up and luckily she and Shannon are

going to see Dr. Moon to get it all fixed. Ha! Ha! Ha! And then Dr. Moon's like, well, I hope you're going to be able to relax this time. She's like, well, I mean, you were fitting your finger on my butthole.

So. Yeah. able to relax this time she's like well I mean you were fitting your finger on my butthole. So yeah so he first his doctor Moon starts working on Shannon and he starts using some magnets to to find her pain. Ow! Ow! Magnets! Magnets! In the past Dr. Moon has helped me with problems that internalize inside of me, anger and deliver, resentment and the gallbladder. Sadness in the lungs. Like, our even less. Psychological debris. For anybody who is always, who is ever on the fence about Shannon, This is why I will always love Shannon. When she thought she had something stuck in her butt and made David put his fingers up there and it turned out to be a bit of psychological debris, I will never forget, I'll never be able to forget that.

Yeah. And I think that cemented her time on Housewives for as long as she just needs to be here. That was actually such an iconic moment. I feel like it doesn't get recognized in the larger pandion of housewives moments as much as it really should because that was truly an excellent moment. Oh, it makes me sad. That's when the house, that's when this show is really firing on all cylinders that that that stretch of seasons there. It's a sad, sad, sad that we're we're at right now. Yeah. So Dr. Moon is stabbing Vicki in her hand

to make her ankle feel better, which is funny. And she's doing it to Shannon. She's like, no, don't make it hurt. Come on. Come on. I mean, it's just looking at the Shannon story line, because she says, I've been coming here since before my children were born and got it helps.

Does it? Does it? It doesn't really. Let's just look at the timeline of how things gone down I feel like the track record. Yeah, I feel like the results have not been great for Dr. Moon's treatment But either way Vicky gets up on there to get treated and he's like oh you have sadness here because you have anger in your liver and the anger has led to Insurance policies in the intestine that's weird. I've never noticed that before. Oh, yeah. I was lied to. It's stolen from Oh, okay. Okay, Vicki. So she's talking about

Brooks. He didn't glue those teeth into his own mouth. Lady. Actually, he might have knowing you don't give somebody, you don't give somebody a dollar on the street and then come home and tell your friends somebody stole a dollar from you. Okay. You gave that dollar up willingly. Well, either way, she is a little angry these days because Brooks just got married and she, she's not happy about it, which is of course fueling the other ladies to speculate that she still has feelings for Brooks, which of course she does, you know.

So I think she still probably bones bricks on like business trips and stuff. Because that's how they started. That's my guess. Because they're always gonna like meet up in like half-secret boning sessions. They have actually probably done so many wonderful things for national security because you know that they have had some like

x-rated face timing sessions and whatever Russian spies were like, they're like, okay, you know what? Knows the time we take our operation to a next level. We spy on autominikins and someone's like, all right, I'm going to look at right now what this, this one right here and this is, let me see, come on, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, you know, a board's mission, a board's spying on America.

No, let's go back to Gullag, Gullag time, hey. Oh, roses are red, violets are blue. I'm gonna stick my penis in you. Okay, this is enough. This is enough. Never again. Even Bueller is upset about that. Bueller is disgusted.

Bueller's. Get out of the Euler. Amazon Prime. I know Bueller. I'm so jealous you're getting Amazon Prime box. Yeah, I am. I got so many you're getting Amazon Prime box. Hell yeah, I am. I got so many things off Amazon Prime. I went on a cry had a day in bed and Lord,

I don't even need half the shit that's coming. I'm already tired from like, you know, ripping apart the boxes and stacking them properly and I haven't even started doing it yet. I have in my cart, I have some really mundane things that are like ready to go like I just have to like Press the button and let me tell you something. You know what's in my Amazon cart? Well, I have some a thermal pro Instinct read meat thermometer and also some blue Fenigreek from Georgia Georgia Europe

Wow, yeah, a meat thermometer. I've got like three. I love buying meat thermometer. I'm like, what is a meat thermometer technology? I like, I want an instant read one because this is electronic. I have a non electronic one and I have to tell you, I hate watching that thing go up because it takes forever and I never know when it's truly going to stop. I just want like a digital output that says, this what the damn meat is that's this is how it is Okay, that's all I want you know because I overcooked a sausage today, and I was like I can't believe I overcooked a sausage

Well, thank you. What do you think bicky's temperature would be if you chef did that per her doctor moon, but it's what because my left hand cuz full of Steve Lopez. I mean Steve Chavez Okay, so the music's like Like a party and there's like Gina crying on the FaceTime with her mom of that getting divorced Yeah, something is off and I'm trying to have some feelings of self-awareness, you know and anyway I felt there's a disconnect and you know what I'm saying and mom's like I do I do I heard it five times Gina, could you come up with some new lines? Divorced divorce divorce divorce divorce divorce. It's like death by a thousand paper cuts.

Okay, fast forward. Yeah. Okay, so now a commercial for Aldi shop differently. In case anybody needed to be brainwashed a little more to go get their wine from their Aldi. Yeah. And then we go and Emily is meeting up with Kelly at Madison Square Garden and Cafe, which if memory serves me correctly, that's where Shannon and Kelly

once tried to make amends two years ago when they were like not getting along and they had like 10 different coffees and kept on fighting at each one. I specifically remember this place. It is this. Yeah, I do too. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad it wasn't just me because I wrote down it's everywhere just outdoors now and OC. Yeah. It's like a lot of sets like that. So Kelly basically they they meet up and Kelly and some fruit. You have he's a fruit, fruit, loop. It'll be a fruit. The music is like, dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. And then Kelly comes in and this weird fur thing was like, well, here's what happened.

I was talking to Steve. I was talking to Steve and this little bitch came up. And he was like, oh, it's not a bridge. It has to be for riddles. I was like, what's a riddle? You're stopping putting in. You're putting in, you are. You are.

Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? No, oh. Oh, he called me drunk. I'm drunk, I'm a drunk. I'm just drunk She's like that's when I saw red and Emily's like yeah, but you know look I You have the right to feel like that and I got it you know

We made you mad I get why you'd be upset the thing is the name calling, you know, that's my husband. She goes, oh my god, of course. Of course. I had no idea what your husband I swore to baby Jesus. And then of course they showed the clip of her. Yeah, again, meeting Steve and being like, oh, what's this? My son, you're saying husband of Emily. I know. I love how Kelly is like I love how she's she's mad even when she's like be like being conciliatory and and like like empathetic Emily's like like it was just the name calling was inappropriate. Of course of course We were just out of line. I was totally out of line. I was.

I didn't know what your husband. She goes, yeah, but recordless Kelly, you shouldn't talk like that to anyone. She goes, well, you shouldn't say you're going to kill someone. And then can't they just start, yeah, they just start cracking up. And this is, and then this is what I love about housewives resolution. So they're like, you were wrong. I was wrong. And then they left the ad that they were. And then Kelly has to add an IB sign in there. She goes, I mean, dude, don't point fingers at you because then you have three points back at you. Yeah, it's actually four, but I like that Kelly is always pointing like it's a cock to gun. Like even her

point is somebody else is violent. Oh, I didn't, well, I don't get it. Why is it four fingers? Well, I guess it depends on if you're from a place that counts three fingers or your thumb as a finger, but you know, when you, I've always heard you have four pointing back at you, but I guess technically it would be three, which makes this whole thing even be three. Because when you're pointing, like, make a point like you're pointing at someone, you've got three fingers pointing back at you

And I guess you know, we could done this as back. That means Kelly was right. I'm wrong. I'm putting this show I'd like to apologize to everybody. Okay, but here's the problem with this show They had a totally mature Resolution they hurt this they they spoke clearly to each other they voiced their opinions They listened to each other and it ended and I'm like I'm sorry this is bravo you guys need to not listen to each other and get even matter and storm off and then get anger next time you see each other this is not how a season long feud works well thankfully jammer will never let them forget it so keep bringing it up over and so we're saying so now now they go to two different goals.

But we do learn things. Like I can't believe I've been saying this whole time, you've got four fingers pointing back at you. You know, what is nobody tell me when I make mistakes like that? Like how many times have I said this in my life, just walking around like a fucking moron? Well, I think it depends on how,

if you're double jointed, you know, because maybe you are. Oh, thanks, man. Okay, yeah. So maybe you're just pointing with your thumb. In that case, you have four coming back. are. Oh, thanks, man. Okay. Yeah. So maybe you're just pointing with your thumb. In that case, you have four coming back. I'm like, oh, my thumb. Every time I point at my thumb.

It's like Bob Dull pointing. You know, that's how Bob Dull points, you know, point with your thumb. Then you got four coming back. How about that one? You're a Bob Dull pointer. That's what we learned. Oh my God.

Thank you. That turned out well. And honestly, honestly, Ronnie, you know, some people, you know, if you want to point in a non-aggressive way, you actually point with two fingers, in which case you only have two fingers coming back. So see, there's so many different variations. I like that. But it's mid for four. Okay, so dinner for four, tamar is it, you know, to the fruscal point, or whatever. And so they're table for four and time to order dinner. I'll have a Caprese salad. You know what, all of a whole other...

Did you know that she said it? She goes, I'll have a Caprese. Yes, I thought she... I'll have a Caprese salad. At first I thought she was just coming up with a different salad called like a Parreza salad. I was like a Parreza salad. A Caprese salad place and I was like, I'll have the holo book. And Gina was like, I'm gonna get the berry-brey because I love it so much.

Except I thought she said berry-brey because of her accent. Ah, the berry-brey. And I had to put on the captions. I was like, what is she wearing? And I put on the captions and said berry-brey. And I'm like, you're in a Italian restaurant and you're ordering a berry-brey for your entrepreneur. I thought, Gina really has to work on some shit?

That she really does. Can I have the halibut please? Thank you very much. And if you have any tortilla chips, I know this is an Italian restaurant, but if you have any tortilla chips back, they just, just, just buy them. You can just hide them under the fish. I won't tell you one. Possibly with some cheese on it. That's what we call, nacho. I'm not going to be able to call you a horse I'll see you soon if you don't horse around or yeah and so Gina so then Gina's they're talking about dating Gina makes the most awkward say wishes and she gets all sing song because she's nervous because so you know what I

what's interesting to me about your story was that he was with this wife for 30 years and suddenly they really did not really meant for each other and so my husband my husband that's not really here a lot so I'm not really set the table at the kind of conversation a lot and so like you guys you know and Tamra speaks for America she's like sped up batch we're splitting up I was like oh Jesus thank god sounded weird well you know we got married really young and we were still really good friends but we're just not in love he's like my best friends still I'm still so we're attracted to him and it's like the bubbles of

Long Island and I realized I could see V.S. and get my own bubbles what I have to be in Long Island for a bubble in Taiwan so we learned a lot and then we're gonna be best friends for everyone. Yeah, so everyone's like, and Shannon's like, well, high respect your positivity, bad high, I was positive too. And then David tried to assault me in a courtroom. And Gina's like, he would never, but what best friends. And then Shannon tells us, I'm going through to force, but I didn't ask for that.

And they have three kids and I wish they'd work on it. Um, a, that's kind of shitty but on B, they have three little kids like little. Yeah. So I don't know how I feel about this. Well, honestly, like if they wanted to work on it, I don't know. I, I think it's for the best. I think this is not a relationship that is like this situation. Like again, if there was love,

they would make it work. They would, like it sounds like he doesn't even want her to visit. She doesn't even know where he lives. This is not a guy who wants to be married to this woman and she feels it and she deserves better in life. Cause he knows he's not helping anyway. Yeah, she's not helping anyway.

And he's not there for the kids anyway. He's always fucking gone. So fuck that guy. See you later, suck it. So they started talking about Vicki and have Vicki wants them to stay together and yada yada yada. It leads to talk about Vicki and her relationship and that's where Tamara is like, I don't think Vicki loves Steve. I don't think Vicki loves Steve. So it's like,

S-Sat that. S-Sat that. And, and she's like, well, you know, I went to Dr. Moore with her and apparently she has anger centered in her liver. In her liver in her liver And uh, Tamara's like I warned her and I warned her and I want her as then she came after me and my marriage You know, that's what she tried to bring me and my marriage and that Tamara And then she brings up the whole argument with the whole

Kelly and Emily argument and she's's like, I just want to say out of it. I just want to say out of it. I'm like, you're the one who just brought it up. You brought it up just right now. Yep. And so, Shannon, it's like, well, we had lunch and is that where we are now? Yeah, yeah, sorry. So Shannon's like, well, we at Emily's like, we had lunch and everything's fine. She apologized, I apologized. And this champion goes, well, but's like, we had lunch and everything's fine. She apologized, I apologized. And this chairman goes, well, but upset me is I was having a conversation with Kelly. And we practiced a conversation to have with Steve and that she just lost it. You know, that's that's what I was working on.

And she's like, I know you practice, presented your friend in there might not be the best second sense, okay? If I was if I had a venue I would have said don't do that Callie, okay? Like she talks to chairman like she's a fucking moron Well miss 30-year-old I know I think I know her a little better than you do miss getting divorced And then you was stuck breaking up a then you were stuck breaking up a fight. So how well did that go, huh? Well, mission accomplished because she read it her feelings and that's a very positive step 30 to 40 positive feelings about You're laying emotions see now. We're all emotionally aware of each other I guess you're right it with a very positive night then you're right. I'm detecting sarcasm

Miss Repositive Mike then you're right. I am detecting sarcasm miss 13 year old It's a cool time being sarcastic. It was insane It was insane Now, maybe you shouldn't judge it's not nice to judge and Gina's like well if you're going to stare at the pot then own it Ha ha ha you're Ferry judgmental Gina you don't even know me. Look at your friend, Emily over here because she is the one who threatened to kill somebody and everything's my fault. Ha! And then Gina goes, but I feel that the Kelly, personally, and they're like,

no, in terms of like you are being ridiculous. You cannot say that. And Gina's like, well, I do, because you know, she's the hot, she's the hot look. I what I'm just saying is I wouldn't have sent her in the I wouldn't send Emily in there. Rita look at her. Well, and I wouldn't have told David as we go walking along the beach with that troll. But I guess these are the things that happen in life. You know what else I wouldn't have done? I wouldn't have gained 60 pounds if he'd gone to send him to me to her. But you know what? That's my lot in life.

Okay, that's the way the cookie crumbles. Oh, by the way, I will have a cookie. Thank you very much. Bits! Bitch. And that is the end of Real Housewives of Orange County. Woo! We are gonna be back tomorrow to recap Shaza Sunset.

Yeah, we didn't forget about it. We are recapping their NowRooze episode. And then we will recap the newest of Sunset. Yeah, we didn't forget about it. We are recapping their now-rules episode. And then we will recap the newest episode this Friday. So it's a double Shaws week, which I know everyone is excited about. Um, you guys, I mean, far be it for me to shill any farther, but by tickets to New York, we have tickets available for the 11th. I don't know how many are left. I don't think there are too many. So you guys better go get some. Go to watchcraftpins.com to get those, and also don't forget about Seattle. And Nashville, if you're in those areas, they will be super fun shows.

They always are. Nashville has like, only about like 60 tickets left, so you better hop on those while you can. Everyone, we love you, we will talk to you at Maniana, just as Steve Chavez would say, Maniana. And anything else, Ronnie? Uh, that's salsa for me! Huh, well maybe you listeners shouldn't be so judgmental! Huh! Bye! Bye!

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