Watch What Crappens - Below Deck: Bru-union

Episode Date: February 19, 2020

The boys of Below Deck flounder around and wallow in excuses for the entire Below Deck Reunion. Will Andy stand for it? Or will he stan for it? For this week's bonus Trailer Breakdown for RHO...NY, become a member over at Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. *** Limited Edition Shirts! "Shannon Bowldor", "Twerp", "Dork", "When Life Gives You Tacos Make Taco Salads" merch available at crappensmerch.com! **Crappens Live is coming to Lawrence KS, Omaha, Salt Lake City, Vancouver, Orlando, Charleston, Oklahoma, Asbury Park NJ, Toronto, Washington DC, San Francisco and Boston! Find ticket links at watchwhatcrappens.com See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:04:21 But like, let's just like get to the fun stuff, shall we? Or the angering stuff? The below deck, the reunion part two. Wow, what a journey. Wow. What a journey. How about that? I'll just start with that.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yeah, what a journey. It's like, that's, when we say journey, it's not like, wow, it's like Odysseus has come back after 40 years and he's back where he is. It's more like, wow, I just got stuck on a cruise line with coronavirus and I've been sitting in the port for three weeks. And now I was healthy when I started it. And now I've got Wuhan or COVID-19 disease. That's what the journey is. What's COVID-19? Is that a new one? No, no, no, they just rebranded it. They like the World Health Organization changed the name from Wuhan coronavirus to COVID,
Starting point is 00:05:07 like, coronavirus 19 or something like that. Basically, so that way, like, Wuhan is not scarred for years and years and years to come with people thinking that it's a hotbed of disease. Well, and also, Corona, the beer. I mean, like, can we not make this disease sound like a party? Can we talk about the real victims here? I mean, they really, at this point, not make this disease sound like a party. That'd be great. Can we talk about the real victims here? I mean, they really, at this point, they should just call it, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:29 ashton virus. That would have been okay. Yeah, well, it would have apologized a lot, but not really meant it. Yeah, there'd been a lot of that. Yeah, your symptoms would be sorry, but. Sorry, but. Sorry, but.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Sorry, but. Sorry, but. And then you would, you know, punch a punch a window of course and try to kiss strangers Wow, so here we are back, you know our relationship. I feel like we're that married couple who One of us is like believing in the best in people and then one of us is believing in the worst of people I guess who's right the person who believes in the worst because human, guess who's right? The person who believes in the worst, because human beings are just that disgusting, okay? And welcome to whoever's listening to this, you are a human being, so welcome, you're disgusting too, okay?
Starting point is 00:06:12 We suck. Fuck this suck. Wow, you really took that to a dark place. I was not expecting that. I will say this, going into the episode, I was holding out hope because unlike you, I have a little bit of optimism in me, which is strange, because I definitely do a fair share of ranting against humanity, but I had enough best.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I feel like in people, you know? I think it's important to try to give the benefit of the doubt unless they do something wrong too. You know, I'll give the benefit of the doubt in certain situations, but then if someone, you know, crossed the street the wrong way, I'll be like, who do they think they are? You know, someone lifts up their,
Starting point is 00:06:48 like someone puts down their soda on their tray table on an airplane on the wrong side. They don't put it in the little notch. I'm like, you monster, you're impariling all of us. Where the call me out all this time later? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Got it. But I was like, as much as I was infuriated by Andy Cohen last week on the reunion, I was holding out hope that he was then going to go hard on the guys this week. And then we would all look like dumbasses and jumping to conclusions too quickly, too early. But now, guess what? The conclusions don't even need to be jumped to.
Starting point is 00:07:25 They've been arrived to. And, yeah, Andy, you failed. You're sit head. Okay, you've totally failed on this. Same on you. I hope you're enjoying all the online sit that you're taking right now, because you deserve it.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Fuck her. Yeah, it's bad. I mean, the best irony would be if he actually blames it on the editing. If he says that he asked all the questions But then they cut them out that would be hilarious Well here we are we're back and we open with Ashton just looking at his hands Which you know are basically the only girlfriend he's gonna have for a while well, I guess actually he's With a girl and has a yacht job now. So never mind, take it back. But Ash is looking
Starting point is 00:08:06 at his hands and Ash, we start with this segment. Well, most drama takes place in the high teeth. This season, one of the most upsetting moments happens in a van. What sort of, what sort of, what sort of intro is that? Just running dry at this point. Yeah, they're like they're running out of things to say they couldn't even come up with a rhyme or a pun for van They're just like well, it's a show about boats, but this thing happened in a van vehicles, am I right? Cuz he is amazing off the wheels Something else is on wheels of van Please, it may seem off the wheels. Something else is on wheels of Van. He's on wheels as well.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Ashton walks on his feet, and sometimes he wears sneakers and a type of sneaker. He's a van. Let's take a look. So we get this clip in the van of Ashton trying to crawl over the seat to beat Kate up. And for asking how his mother is, by the way, just in case anyone forgot that.
Starting point is 00:09:06 And Kevin's saying, Put the van over, put the van over, please, kept on playing, put the van over, please. Which is Kevin's big moment of civil war the season. Yeah, his one that fleeting moment. And then Ashton pushes the window of the van. Yeah. Put it back. So Andy's like, well, there was a strong view of reaction,
Starting point is 00:09:28 not from me, I thought it was hilarious, but just so everyone knows there was a producer in the van who thought instead of pulling over at night in the middle of the tile end, the middle of nowhere, it would be safe as to return to the boot immediately. I'm like, thanks for the explanation, Andy. By the way, it would not have been like,
Starting point is 00:09:50 it would not have been terrible to stop the van. I mean, it's like, yes, you're in the middle of nowhere, but wasn't there another van next to you? Like caravanning? I mean, I don't know. It seemed like it was a strange, weird moment for an excuse. What was his human resources moment, right? It's like the human resources that never really understands the true problem. It's like, hey, there's a guy who grabbed my butt in the lunch line today. Oh, I've got an idea. All right. Making an announcement, everybody listen, we're not serving lunch anymore. All right. You're gonna have to get your lunch from the snack machine now. It's like, no, that wasn't the problem. It wasn't the lunch. It was the hand on my ass. Sure. Yeah. Exactly. And, you know, I mean Kate said she was fine with going directly to the Marina, you know? And I get that, but I just, I felt like this, this starting out with this excuse,
Starting point is 00:10:31 like, well, we weren't gonna stop in some crazy non-white country, even though we are like 12 people, and we have cameras and everything, we're not gonna do that. I'm like, you know, you could have stopped. It's like, you don't have to explain why you didn't stop. Like, but also like, making it sound like they were literally in the middle of like, do that. You know, you could have stopped. You don't have to explain why you didn't stop.
Starting point is 00:10:45 But also making it sound like they were literally in the middle of running between, I don't know, like war torn Baghdad or something. For some reason, rubbing a really weird way, I did not like that as a way to start there. It's just because he's getting everything wrong. What's the important thing here that happened, Andy, that you didn't stop Devan? Is that why everybody's mad at the season? Is that why? Really? Oh, okay. Here's, okay.
Starting point is 00:11:09 So we're not mad anymore because Kate's okay with not stopping the van. Like, shut up, stupid. Like, read the human resources complaint, you know? So then he's like, ask you, when you saw the episode and realized you were so goddamn hot, did you touch yourself? Because I did. You are good looking. All right. When you realized Kate was not out of line by saying,
Starting point is 00:11:28 mom, did you apologize? What's your reaction to that? Ashton? Do you like my eyes? Is my hair good? But your hand in this box. That is my penis. You feel just answer that one for you. Oh, you accept me into your group of popular guys from high school. So totally, you know, I mean, that's what this is all about, right? So, Ayeshans, like, well, the first time I saw it, it was after the trailer aired, and I didn't know that I'd hit the window, and I said on the show that I immediately message
Starting point is 00:11:55 her on Instagram and apologize. I apologize. And it gets like, yeah, but did your hand not hurt the next day? You said, no, not really, not really. He didn't, he didn't think you woke up and thought, now I may have punched something, because my hand swollen and it hurts and has bits of glass in it.
Starting point is 00:12:11 No, that didn't encourage you. You didn't look down and see a big swollen thing and think, wow, the only thing giving my penis and he intention on this charter is in pain right now. So I didn't think of anything like that. And we're always like, oh no, he only remembers you saying something about it's mother that's all he remembers got it got it okay that's what he remembers
Starting point is 00:12:34 convenient and you know it's kind of funny now actually having watched the full episode you know ashton one of the questions later on which we'll get to is that he double down on the Bravo TV after show. And he's like, well, you know, of course you get defensive. That's what happens. You get defensive. You just said that you immediately apologized to her. So where, like, you're lying about something. You either got defensive and weren't like ready to accept that you like were Icedaterably or you apologized.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Yeah, because he didn't know at that time, but he had hit a window. Oh, he's so weird. Like, somehow he doesn't remember that. Yeah, because he didn't know at that time that he had hit a window. Oh, he's so weird. Like, somehow he doesn't remember that. Yeah, I don't know. So I'm guessing those after shows are, I don't know when they're filmed. I don't know if they're filmed before all of this airs or if they're filmed while it's airing, you know.
Starting point is 00:13:20 So I can't tell how much of his reactions and his faux apologies are based on audience reaction, all of them, spoiler alert, all of them, but how much of the after show was? I don't know. I think that they're actually filmed, I don't, they're not filmed while before airs necessarily because in one of the ones, I watched actually one of them,
Starting point is 00:13:41 the very, very sweet and touching one, where Captain Lee said the reason why he will always have Kate's back is because when his son died, which was back in the fall, I believe, or maybe late summer, but when his son died, Kate flew down for the funeral, unsolicited. She just immediately packed up and just went down to the funeral and he said, like,
Starting point is 00:14:01 that gesture right there is why he will always have Kate's back. So, first of all, that also forced that against him. Yeah, and then they use it against him. I was like, you guys are such fuckers, but also like that means, so that was clearly, you know, shot after that happened, unfortunate. That's an unfortunate way to maybe to understand that, but yes. Wow.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Okay. So he's like, so let me ask you you K. Would you ask him about his mother? Were you trying to provoke a fight? She's like no, and that's what I'm saying like when people get mad at me Okay, look here's the thing Look at my face You're mad, right? It's just how my face is Rest in pitch face Asha's like I'm not saying if I'm right to wrong
Starting point is 00:14:44 I'm just giving you another opinion. I'm giving you another perspective on how I might have felt in salt. So when you said, how's your mother? Naturally, I thought you were saying I fucking hate your mother and everything everyone in your family. So of course, I wanted to punch slash kisser. And he's like, yes, and I had just kissed you and you had expressed her unhappy about that. And you were calling me a psycho. No, that's not what yes, and I had just kissed you and you had expressed how unhappy you were about that and you were calling me a psycho No, that's not what happened actually She told you very nicely
Starting point is 00:15:11 The first time sir and she's like no actually I called you a psycho after you punched the window Like don't get it twisted and he's like where it's so what I assumed from that situation was when we were making fun of Tannis Mom, which is totally fine to do you came came to his defense by saying, what about your mom? And we were making fun of her, so you made fun of my mom. That's what I thought it was. I'm not saying that I was right, but that's what I thought it was. And she's like, I can't remember anything. Yeah, so you remember what you were thinking now?
Starting point is 00:15:39 Because you just had temporary amnesia, but now you remember this. So, what good for you? Good for you. It's all coming back, Jane Fonda. Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Celine. And the thing is that like what I just, in his mind, okay, so we were like, like you sort
Starting point is 00:15:56 of implied, we were making fun of Tanner's mom and then you stood in and then you started making fun of my mom. So it's like, oh, so you can make fun of Tanner's mom, even though that's not what Kate was necessarily doing. Honestly, it doesn't even matter what Kate was doing because it didn't deserve that response But even if you took it in the worst way of her saying you know what if you keep dragging on Tanner's mom What about your mom? What's up with your mom? honestly, that's not like
Starting point is 00:16:18 In the context that situation still not still not something that should cause you to fly off the handle And also even if she said something that should cause you to fly off the handle. And also even if she said something that did cause you to fly off the handle, you still shouldn't have done it because you're in a workplace and also you're a big, burly man and she's a lady and like whatever you say, you're bigger, she's smaller. It's not right. You shouldn't do it. I don't like it. And on top of that, what I also started to get mad about is that here we are and now
Starting point is 00:16:41 we are debating because this line of questioning about what it could say, about the mom that it's going on and on, we are here talking about the degree to which Kate provoked Ashton instead of, why do you think that's okay that you can do that? And what workplaces that okay to do that Ashton, you kiss her and then you punch the window, do you see why that is?
Starting point is 00:17:01 So terrible, do you see why people are angry at you? Instead it's like, but like Kate, why did you say the mom? Why is it that like, you know, why do you say these things, Kate? You know, that's sort of the implication of the questioning. Yeah. Through the whole thing. Whole thing, especially this moment. Ashton's like, well, I just remember you said something about my moment and that's what
Starting point is 00:17:20 I said to Captain Leath the next morning. I said what happened. And he's like, you said you didn't remember. And then we see a clip of what Ashin said, which he did say, what he is claiming to say now, right? And the captain's like, well, I don't think you actually remembered what happened. And that's the problem I have with you. And Kevin, and Brian, and Tanner, the whole season.
Starting point is 00:17:40 You get blackout drunk. You don't recall anything. You get together in the morning, you get to try to piece it together. It was a shit storm without a goddamn cheerio inside, alright? Kevin, you were carried into your bed that I know of and he's like twice, he goes five times, five times. You were physically carried and poured into your bunk. And Kevin just laughs.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Kevin just says he has that like look look, am I in trouble, Doddy? And you know, the other thing is this actually does fall on Ashen shoulders to I would argue because as the boasting he is the lead of these decans and if he's gonna become a quote I'm going to smash in then the other guys say yeah This is what we do because we're off the clock and therefore we're all gonna get wasted and this is a moment where some leadership Might have actually kept these guys from getting so black out drunk. Cause at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:18:28 the rule is don't embarrass yourselves and don't embarrass the boat. And they kind of are doing all of that in space every time they went out. So this is, this actually does fall in Ashton's shoulders. And you would think that maybe a cable host would ask that, or maybe ask any sort of follow up question about drinking, why do you guys get so drunk?
Starting point is 00:18:46 Why did you think it was okay? Captain Lee said don't embarrass the boat, but you still got wasted and you were hitting on strangers and it had to be pulled away in a foreign country. Not a single follow-up question, but God forbid Kate threw some laundry on the floor. Well, Joyce is next. Joyce is next from, you know, Jehosaphat.. And she said, by the way, by the way, half of these questions, I think were fake, and just that Andy didn't want to be the one to ask them. Yeah, whenever it came to questions for the men, someone pointed this out online and I totally agree, whenever it came to questions for the men, he read it as a viewer question. And then when it came to tough questions for the ladies, he, it was all his questions. Yep. So Joyce asked Joyce says that
Starting point is 00:19:26 Ashton should have been fired after punching that window. Why did no one go to the captain? And Riley's like, yeah, why wouldn't you tell him about the window? Ashton. Is I think that I already made the point that I didn't remember. So why are you asking me your questions? She's, oh, right, you didn't remember goes, oh, right. You didn't remember, right, okay, right? You know, he doesn't remember except that he has a perfect defense for why what Kate said about his mom was wrong.
Starting point is 00:19:52 But, yes. This is an ongoing question to reunion. We get about two, maybe three other questions that are like, why did someone tell Captain Lee? Shouldn't Kate have told Captain Lee? Shouldn't, and this is like an ongoing refrain when you talk about issues like these in the workplace. Well, if she had a problem with it,
Starting point is 00:20:13 she should have told the boss. That's like always one of the top things that people say. And it seems like a logical extension of what should be the next action, but the point is that there's gender dynamics at play and especially the two of us as men, we will never really understand what it's like to be a woman in these situations. But it's not as simple as like, oh, I'll just tell Captain Lee and everything will be fine. I mean, the like famously, the women who speak up in situations get at the worst, get at the absolute worst, and the fact that there's like, that the question gets asked like two or three more times
Starting point is 00:20:47 by Andy, and that the women have to continually explain why they didn't go to Captain Lee, and then maybe even made to feel bad about it, is again, terrible. Well, and it's a situation that was getting worse and worse and worse as it went on, and you don't wanna like, other yourself right out of the group,
Starting point is 00:21:04 by, you know, it's like, what is sexual harassment and what is just playing around and what is boys will be boys and what is like unacceptable behavior and it just kind of starts spiraling out of control, you know. And you don't want to like, put yourself in that situation where you're the bitch because you wouldn't use that something, you know.
Starting point is 00:21:21 But then the implication is like, you didn't do anything about it. And then the other implication is is that the captain leaves a shitty boss, which is what they're going after, like he's a shitty captain, you know, because he didn't do anything about it. And if he's going to say, well, I didn't do anything because nobody told me anything about it, then it was your responsibility to tell him about it. And if you didn't tell him anything about it, then you're the shitty boss. Yeah, Yeah. It's like, it's just... What the fuck? But I'm telling you the one where the responsibility is not falling is on the guys, whose behavior is just sort of like getting a pass.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Right. And then, Andy is like, well, you said you never wanted to work with action again. Do you not advise what a chance! And Captain Lee is like, well, if actions is the same person I just worked with last year, then no. And Aston's like, honestly, I'm not the same person. Oh, okay. You've been going to, oh, we haven't gotten to this part, but he's been therapy for a week.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Okay. I went to therapy one week before this, and he didn't go to help himself or because he felt like he didn't do anything wrong. He obviously went to get a bunch of psychopath bullshit in order to answer these questions because that's exactly how he's talking. He's not answering one real fucking thing. He's just giving you a psychopath right back at you. And this is why I say people like this should not go to therapy.
Starting point is 00:22:36 They should go to fucking jail. Okay? The therapy just teaches them. The therapy just teaches them how to interact in the real world and get away with shit. It doesn't make anything better, you know? He needs to be put in the starting overhouse, okay? Let's get Yonla back in there. Let's get him there. Let's find the ghost of Delarice.
Starting point is 00:22:55 And we are going to put Ashton in there and he's going to have to deal with it. He's going to deal with it with props, okay? He's going to carry physical luggage to represent his luggage. He's going to put himself on trial in an actual courtroom with Delerie says the judge. And he's gonna have to like maybe put peanut butter on a wall. I don't know what that is. It's like how he deals with sticky situations. He's gonna deal with that until this Gio pet rock.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Why you got so mad that it said something about your mouth. It will grow when you grow. So yeah, so then Andy asks him he says you said what? Who happens? Live that came reciprocated the kiss the first time but you grabbed her face as she told you after the fact not to do it again And you did I mean do you think feeling your tongue and your mouth met you didn't have to ask for consent? And he's like he's like well the first time I kissed Kate, I obviously had feelings for her. And like, it's something that that wasn't actually aired was that I
Starting point is 00:23:50 actually went with Kate for, we had a chat on the beach. And she gave me some advice during, during dinner. And we had a really cool dinner. And she encouraged me on this boats and journey. And, and I saw, I sort of felt like we had this vibe, which is why I went in for the first time, more or less, that's sort, which is by the way, disgusting. So why are you so see, she helped you out in a moment of need. So she, you thought she wanted you. Yeah. Or it's a kiss.
Starting point is 00:24:12 So it's her fault. It's like it's a spin on the old well, she acted like she wanted it. She was like, it's a short shorts. And this is an issue that women have that I've, I've read about and my friends have told me about that they have in the workplace You know like you can't just like speak to your male colleagues without them thinking like oh, yeah, she wants me You know like you're in a workplace. Sorry. You may be on a beach, but you're still your coworker Okay, and she's giving you some tips and you take that as like she wants to like jump on my my balls come on
Starting point is 00:24:42 No Sorry, I thought that was gonna be longer. I was taking your smoothie. No, I thought that was going to be longer. I was taking a smoothie. No, I didn't. It didn't even have to be longer because it's. No, it didn't. I just thought I'm trying to time my smoothie slurps. You like, I thought that I thought that was going to do another starting over reference.
Starting point is 00:24:58 So, Ashen is like, well, I did the first time I kissed Kate or this. I had some sort of feelings towards her, but something that wasn't. Oh, yeah. Sorry. He's like, the second kiss time I kiss Kate or this layer had some sort of feelings Uh, uh, uh, but something that wasn't a oh yeah, sorry He's like the second kiss was completely uncalled for my drinking this season has been a major problem And I've been taking it very very seriously. I've quit drinking and for someone like me who's a major party animal Andy being in a social situation and not drinking that's how serious I'm taking this and he goes on I swear for five minutes. It's like there's a monologue I know he's it's going on on you know, he's like, you know the moment I put the moment that you put away Kate I stopped I did not want to force myself on you. That's what I always said. I don't want to force myself when you and I
Starting point is 00:25:37 He's like grab your head, you know like that. Yeah, this is I'm a changed person. I'm taking the James Kennedy Like that. Yeah, I'm a changed person. I'm taking the James Kennedy Rehabilitation center approach to drinking and I think I'm going to be very fixed very soon and You know, I hate the fact that everything is being spun the way it is, but I'm the one who behaved the way I did I'm like Stop saying being spun the way it is you you did that you acted that way No one is spinning the fact that you tried to kiss your co-worker twice. Who cares if you had a conversation on the beach about your journey as a boss and try to kiss her twice, then punch the glass window. Among other things, probably those are not the only things, problematic things that happen, but those are like the most, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:16 I don't know, uh, this role. And this one, you know, this is, they keep coming back like, well, we we're apologizing but the girls aren't apologizing that's not an apology saying like oh I did this and I really hate how it's being spun and used against me now but I guess I did it in the first place but got it really hurts the way people are reacting to it you know this is like the typical shit it's not and Courtney goes into it later and we've been here for a long time on this show for many different shows it's not the action it's always the reaction that's the problems everybody else. It's your alcoholism is in the problem It's how everybody else is reacting to it. I mean, I got total Kim Richards flashbacks. Yes, conversational. Yeah, and then Andy so
Starting point is 00:26:58 Then after this after action turns this whole apology into like a poor me everybody some mean to me on the internet It's great relationship with women in his life, all that, the usual stuff. Andy goes, K. And then we cut the commercial. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap- And
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Starting point is 00:28:11 It's commercial. And she comes, we come back and say, well, I appreciate you saying that now. And I believe you. And I thank you. And I don't think that's who you are. But I just wonder when you got this realization, because I've seen after shows on rabbantini.com.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Blink, blink, blink, blink. And you've doubled down. So when did this happen? Ashton. Yeah. And he's like, well, you know, you get defensive at first. You know, you resist. Sort of like when girls try, when I try to kiss girls, you know, they get defensive.
Starting point is 00:28:43 That's a normal reaction. They pull away. But then you just keep going and go hard and you go hard or each time and hold their head real tight. And then they realize how wonderful it is. What are we talking about again? And it's like, did you see his behavior as predatory as a Zine Kate? And she's like, well, you know, there's just so much going on. I mean, you've got incompetency and cooking and I mean, just a lot of
Starting point is 00:29:06 addies and not at one time. But she's a baker in the kitchen. You've got a baker working with rocket in the kitchen. But once she's basically saying, you know, there's a lot going on, but then I see it all put together like that on TV and it was a lot worse, you know, yeah, and she's like So I just want to know do you realize that you're just sorry here on the stage because an hour ago You were questioning my yachting experience and captain's yachting experience and you know You're not really sorry. You're still justifying your behaviors. So that was two minutes ago Actually, if you were justifying your behavior, so Yeah, so what do you think about that? And you say, oh, hey, Candace Blowfish asks, Captain Liu, what do you think? Do
Starting point is 00:29:55 you wish that Kate had told you immediately about what had gone on? See, there it is again, another question. Do you think Kate should have been a better stew and told you what was going on? Because otherwise, the guys can't really be held responsible Because if Kate is not telling you why should we be so mad at the guys because gosh, they're so hot. They're so hot I want to be with them kept from me like and he's like well, yeah I mean like I wouldn't tolerate that I wouldn't tolerate that behavior from anyone and had that behavior become known to me Maybe a cryptic message in the
Starting point is 00:30:25 form of several Cheerios lined up on the counter. Then let me tell you something, Ashton would have been terminated on the SPAT. That's simple. Because that's the recurring thing when they keep bringing it up against him and it's been every interview that the guy's done is basically this season is shit and the men are pigs and you're the captain. So what responsibility are you gonna take for that? And look, we do love... We love Captain Lee on this show, but at some point, like you do have to say, okay, I get that you weren't told all of this stuff,
Starting point is 00:30:55 but you saw multiple times that everyone was shit faced, wasted. You know, like... Mm-hmm. There has to be something there that's like, you know, these questions keep coming up and they're getting tiring, I think just because I've heard them so many fucking times. But yeah, there is some responsibility there, I think.
Starting point is 00:31:12 You know, just watching everybody fall down drunk and seeing the intermingling and how all this fighting is going on, you know, there need to be conversations. Like, what is going on? Not when they're drunk, I get why you wouldn't talk to them while they're drunk, but you need to. The next day, why were you so angry that you were throwing ashes close on the floor?
Starting point is 00:31:30 And why was he running around, tattletailing and getting Tanner to stick up for it? Like, what was that? You know? Yeah, I mean, I think, yeah, in past seasons, Captain Lee has been a little more strict and then the first season, people wouldn't even drink on board.
Starting point is 00:31:42 So maybe he's gonna, it sounds like by the end of this reunion, he's gonna rethink some ways of how he's gonna run his ship in terms of what he will tolerate. And I don't know, hopefully he'll figure out some good ways, like met at a protocols for situations when, when people are not feeling comfortable on board. I hope we can only hope. Yeah, so then we get more, hey, let's let Ashton explain himself.
Starting point is 00:32:08 I hope that Ashton finds a time to have an excuse party in this reunion. So Ashton, what about your mom? How'd she feel? And he's like, well, my mom and I have, you know, my mother has expressed that she's raised me better. And I've listened to women and I have basically learned that I love women and, and you know, blah blah blah of cycle battle. And Andy's like, so when did you stop drinking anyway? He's like, January, Andy actually, it's been January. He's like, so last month, Riley just starts to laugh, by the way.
Starting point is 00:32:36 She's just laughing like, this is such bullshit because if this was Janet, when was this shot? This is filmed, this is filmed in like three weeks ago. this was Janet when was this shot? This was filmed this is filmed in like three weeks ago. It was filmed like right after, it was like right after the gram, the gram he's I feel I feel like it was February 2nd or 3rd, somewhere around there. It was right it was basically only a few weeks after he like
Starting point is 00:32:56 quit drinking and you know, is now sort of trying to act like he's turned his life around. It could have been two days before like his therapy, you know, he didn't specify what time in January. And kids like good for you, good for you in her really high pitch voice, which means you're gonna fail at that. But I'm gonna, you know, go on record to show that I encouraged you. Good for you.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Yeah. He's like, well, Andy, I was moving towards it this whole time, you know, and I had to evaluate myself and say, why do I drink and look at my trigger points, Andy. Some shut up, Ashden. So then Andy's like, so is anyone else thinking of quitting drinking boys? Because he is and Kevin goes, yeah, you know, I'm the, yeah, looking at myself, I'm the, yeah, getting blackout drunk like that. Yeah, I shouldn't have to cut a drop after drink six you know six or seven and then
Starting point is 00:33:45 He just reaches behind him and grabs his drink. Oh my god. I didn't notice that You know, I'll just have to tell my daddy. I'm not a pushy. I'm not a pussy. I'm not a baker I can't drink daddy. I can't I just don't want to daddy. I don't want to daddy as gross as Aston was this whole time And his grossest tanner is just as a human being in general. Kevin was just the grossest. He really was. He really was. He really was.
Starting point is 00:34:10 He really was. He really was. He really was. He really was. He really was. He really was. He really was. He really was.
Starting point is 00:34:18 He really was. He really was. He really was. He really was. He really was. He really was. He really was. He really was. He really was. He really was. He's like, I am not sticking my foot on my mouth. I know what to do. I am quiet. I will only speak if spoken to. I am not going to get drawn into this mess any further. Because Kevin
Starting point is 00:34:31 can, Kevin couldn't help himself. He had that like slack jawed look on his face. Sort of like one of, like he looked like a, a grouper just, you know, roaming the seas, looking for, looking for a snail to eat. Yeah. He's just just his mouth is half open the whole time. And he's just kind of smiling but super confused. Oh, just. Yeah. So Andy's like, so when the crew wasn't engaging in sexy time, I'm really, is that how we're going to lead into that?
Starting point is 00:34:56 Like, I'm sorry. It makes me feel like a fucking schoolmar watching this. Like, oh, my morals. Let's talk about my moral stance. And it's not it's just so fucking gross like do you write this yourself when the crew wasn't engaging in sexy time they were duking it out in the battle of the sexes somehow we're gonna work that into the van for the next segment yeah so we
Starting point is 00:35:20 saw like guys and girls guys and girls, and ultimately the montage, you know, it comes into Riley and everything and it culminates with Kevin Kakin Sand at Kate. And so it comes out of the montage and this is the only time of the course of two hours that Andy Brochus, this sand situation, which was so fucking disrespectful and obnoxious and misogynist and and like vile behavior and Andy goes so So they it ends with you kicking the sand, huh? That's what he says. That's all he says Yeah, he says I mean he goes I mean because Kevin is sitting there laughing at the clip like it's the funniest fucking thing Yeah, and Kevin's like, yeah, a super sorry about that. I can't remember what you said.
Starting point is 00:36:10 I obviously was something. I was like, that's real. That is the response. Yeah. Like, a sorry, and then, well, I don't even remember what you said, but obviously it was your fault. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't just kick the sand. And that there was no follow-up question from Andy, like, but still your coworker and you kicked the sand You kicked it right into where I this is and it seemed like the culmination of rage is that exactly That's fucking assault that's fucking assault and if you were in America you'd spend the night in jail You fucking moron and I know that there are people are just like it's just sand like it over
Starting point is 00:36:39 But it's it's not just sand is the context of it all. It's the context of it all Well, you can think you can think that all you want if that's what you think, but walk away from this and do that to somebody and see if your ass doesn't end up in jail. That's a salt. You can't do that. Yeah, exactly. And it was, it came in such a, like, it was, it was the culmination of, of such a vile, bitter, emotional moment for him. And that he just went and did that. And, you know, and she had earlier that night been trying to be nice with him and say nice things about him and he was like, oh, I think you're here whatever you said and know, you obviously said something. I mean, but even more reprehensible is that there was not even any sort of question from Andy. And Andy goes on on K about the long time.
Starting point is 00:37:33 It's just fucking typical. Like the guy, he didn't watch it, he doesn't care. And he just, I think you're right. He just wants to be friends with the popular boys. It's like a God forbid, the straight guys don't like me, you know? Yeah, look at his Instagram. He's just sn God forbid the straight guys don't like me. You know, he's just a little pussy. He's just sniveling little pussy in this in this reunion. It was hard
Starting point is 00:37:49 to watch. And so it's like, well, I didn't say anything. And Courtney goes, don't talk about what she said. And Riley's like, yeah, look at Ashton giving him advice saying, just don't just say sorry and shut up. Yeah, which is hilarious. And I love that she called about. And he goes, you've been pepping her up the whole share just shut up I guess like was that was this an apology I can't tell anymore is this an apology he's like yeah well I'm super sorry about the sand cake and uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh... uh... when i saw it i said thought and she goes yeah because you can extend my eyeball and that was painful and super disrespectful and i appreciate that apology thanks that really felt i felt it felt that one barely so now i talk about fucking abby more wise abby in there what a waste of
Starting point is 00:38:36 fucking spaces this girl what did she ever do except show up and be fucking uncompetent at her job why do we we care what Abby thinks and why is she here? And why does she get another segment? So, yeah, Andy's like, Abby and Simone, did you all feel intensely that the guys were against you? I mean, this question I could take it both ways. I could take it as a, hey, let's involve the other ladies because it's important to hear what their perspectives were.
Starting point is 00:39:00 But it also felt a little bit like, let's like give some witnesses to the defense. And so Abby's like, honestly they respected me and I saw things later on that I had never expected. I mean, I felt like we could laugh and joke and I didn't feel like anything. I didn't feel anything coming my way because I was a girl. I'm like, yeah, because you literally didn't rock the boat. And I wanted to fuck you.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Ashton was trying to fuck you the whole time. That's why. And that's a very big difference. You know, when you're somebody that isn't someone that wants to be fucked, you see how they really are. You know, like when they want to fuck you, they treat you one way. When they don't want to fuck you, they treat you another way. Do you see the difference? You know, you're being treated like shit too. It's just in a different way. Yeah. And then Simone says that Brian was like a brother to her and she had a good relationship with Kevin. I mean, that's fine. I'm not going to take that away from her. Like, I'm not saying that everyone has to have the same experience. But then Courtney, finally,
Starting point is 00:39:52 Courtney, Courtney has been sitting there quietly for this hour. But Courtney is excellent. You know, the times that she does speak up this hour, she is just like knocks it out of the park. And honestly, so does Riley and so does Kate. But like Courtney really does like Courtney really does and she goes she's like you know a lot of people think that misogyny is hate against women and it's not necessarily hit against women but it's hostility towards women when they don't act in the role that society expects them to act and that's basically what the guys were doing you know and she goes maybe Abby doesn't feel these things that we felt because Abby was not assertive and that we felt because Abby was not assertive. And that's right, because Abby was performing sort of in a role that she was expected of her. So therefore it's
Starting point is 00:40:32 not going to cause ways, it's not going to create this hostility. And when Gorni explained it like that, so clearly and just just laid it out there, I just wanted to give her a standing ovation. Yeah, she nailed that. And Kate's like, yeah, and also Simone. Because Simone's sitting there like, well, you know, he was nice to me after we had all a problem, Andy. But, you know, I think it just depends on individual people, not their girl or boyness or whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:57 She says something like that before Courtney went on her thing. And so I was glad that they put it that way. It's like, of course, you didn't feel that way because you got an argument with him right at the beginning and then you both respected each other. After that, you didn't mouth off to him again. And that's why it was totally fine. Exactly. And then Abby said, you know, generally I really felt like I was respected by them.
Starting point is 00:41:19 I mean, listen, I was third on the wrong and I knew that. I'm like, yeah, you just proved Courtney's point. You were third on the wrong and I knew that. I'm like, yeah, you just proved Courtney's point. You were third on the wrong and you knew your role is in, you knew that you were just supposed to be like on the bottom. You didn't, you didn't make any ways because you knew that was your place and therefore everything was smoothing and I know I'm making lots of nautical puns but it's actually really not intentional. Yeah, as she didn't know how to do shit and they were
Starting point is 00:41:44 totally fine with that because they all wanted to fuck her, you know, or they thought she was hot or it's cute really not intentional. Yeah, as she didn't know how to do shit and they were totally fine with that because they all wanted to fuck her, you know, or they thought she was hot. Or it's cute, because she's just a girl. She doesn't know how. It's like totally okay that she's totally incompetent, you know. Yeah, I mean, how many times did she like key her radio or not have a radio on her, you know, it's like,
Starting point is 00:41:59 Abby, we really need to talk about this. You need to have your radio on, Abby. Like, and the meanwhile, Riley did it. It's like, you're intolerant. You can't have a paleo option for the rest of the meal. Yeah. And I think what's really invraging me about Abby is this whole, and Simone too, frankly, it's like, oh, well, it wasn't sexist towards me.
Starting point is 00:42:17 So I don't think it was sexist. It just bugs me, you know? Yeah. So then Kate's like, well, Kate's trying to like comment and calm the situation, right? She's probably sick of talking about this shit by now. And she's like, well, I think what happened here is you all got put in a strange situation,
Starting point is 00:42:32 which is a lot, people you don't know on a TV show. And you encouraged each other in the wrong way. And I don't think separately any of you are bad people. And I think you're quite lovely without being public peer pressured or whatever. And Kevin just shrugs it or in drinks. That's such a pig. And Brian's like, well, that's a good point because when you go on a show, you don't get
Starting point is 00:42:52 a manual on how to do it. I was like, what are you? Did you just have a baby? Well, that one gives you a manual on how to be a mother. Like shut up. He did have a child. Well, actually. And then Andy goes, wow, yeah, like good point.
Starting point is 00:43:05 And Kathleen's like, no, that's not true. Yeah, and I'm not like there haven't been seven seasons that you already watched because you already knew your opinions on everybody when you jackasses came on this boat. So let's not act like you didn't have a fucking handbook. And you haven't seen for years and years what reality TV is, okay.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Yeah, and so he's going on and on about how like, when it was happening in real life, he didn't think what he was doing was anything wrong or crazy and then when he watched it back, it's like you could see it wasn't right, whatever, but he didn't realize that he was gonna be, he didn't think he would be coming off the way it was being shown.
Starting point is 00:43:39 And Courtney is like, the way it was shown or the way it was acted because it's being shown as you acted. And he's like, uh, Yeah, it actually uses the word portrayed. So he's like putting it on the editors. Typical housewife, you know, well, I didn't know it was gonna get portrayed that way. She's like portrayed or like shown to be like how it was, you know, and Riley's like, they can't add it to be anything you're not. And he's like, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:03 but I didn't mean it to come out that way because I look at all These episodes with Courtney and I feel sad because we had good times and the way that I acted didn't come across is the way it's being shown She's like He should be quiet He should be quiet because he came off relatively well compared to the other guys and he just should She usually shut his mouth, okay, he just take your lungs out So this guy has been online. Have you read his Twitter stuff?
Starting point is 00:44:29 Oh my God. He's talking, I don't subscribe to his Twitter. He's like, oh God, you know what, go ahead and keep talking. I'll look this up and bring it up later. Well, you looked that up. Hey, let's have another question about if maybe the girl should have brought something up to Captain Lee.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I mean, sure we could have a question about if maybe the girls should have brought something up to Captain Lee. I mean, sure we could have a question about why Kevin kicked San in KS eyes or or fall questions on to any of the guys about anything. But hey, was Captain Lee aware of the toxic culture? Is there anything the girls could have told you to make you aware? I'm just going to ask for the third time now. And Lee is like, he's like, there were a lot of things that they should have said, but they didn't. And there were things that Kate should have told me and that could seem to hold that academy of the boat. Not sure if that's the right use of dichotomy, but I'm just gonna say it because I like saying it. That's a good word. Die, cut, oh, me, four syllables, feels nice to mouth, nice mouth feel, you know?
Starting point is 00:45:24 So me, four syllables, feels nice to mouth, nice mouth feel, you know? And he's like, so you weren't aware? He's like, no, I wasn't aware. And Kevin's like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, then why do you think you weren't to wear then, Captain? And he goes, and Riley's like, cause we then go, tattle tail to him. And he's like, well, I didn't observe the interactions. And Kevin's like, uh, no, no, no, what I'm saying is like, I'm going to the crew mess table and all that. He goes, I is like around the crew mess table and all that. He goes
Starting point is 00:45:45 I wasn't at the crew mess table. He's like, well, I've just imagined that as the captain. You you would know what's going on and you know what? Righty stop stop you captain because she's trying to talk over him and he's like, you know, this sucks me saying it as a male or whatever because I know everyone's gonna get mad because I'm a male or whatever, but I don even I've watched it back. I don't even think all of this was this bad that you guys are talking I know it's like oh my god He's like I know I'm a man, but there was nothing we weren't sexist. What are you guys talking about? I mean have you seen thousands of people outraged online Also, you know, it just occurred to me that when Riley said yeah, because we didn't go in tattle to him.
Starting point is 00:46:25 A, that also, again, shows it exposes some of the pressure, the social pressure that women are under in these situations because if they go say something and they're considered tattlers, but it might have also been a reference to when Kevin tattled on Kate to Captain Lee, which also has never addressed this entire reunion. No, it sure wasn't. Okay, so I found Brian's staff. So first on Twitter, he goes on Twitter and he says,
Starting point is 00:46:52 so I finally come to the realization that Twitter is a highly biased platform to voice an opinion. Unfortunately, there's just too much negativity spelled wrong and miss and missandry. If you still want to follow me, I'll be on Instagram. Hashtag, it's been real. Hashtag not really. Hashtag by Felicia. And then his Instagram, part two of the Dexies in 7th reunion tonight, we got to sit down for this one. Vowel Cruz going out with a bing. And I'm not talking about when Courtney took me into a guest cabin. Hashtag, I make joke, hashtag calm down, hashtag get a sense of humor.
Starting point is 00:47:29 See, he plays the nice guy, he's not nice at all. He's a fucking pig. And I remember when he first said, oh yeah, I used to have a problem with women because I would fly into rages. That's why my girl, the mother of my children, left me and I was like, yeah, you know, it's what actions proving now? People like that don't fucking change.
Starting point is 00:47:46 They learn how to talk in a more acceptable way, you know? Well, the other thing is that like, yeah, I mean, he also, his whole thing was like, I don't like every my public, I don't like, I mean my private, my, my, you know, whatever, he doesn't like talking about like what happened. It doesn't kiss and tell, right? That's what he's always saying. It's always getting mad at Courtney because she told someone, even though he tells the bruise. And that's what he's always saying. It's always getting mad at Courtney because she told someone, even though he tells the bruise.
Starting point is 00:48:05 And that's what he's always saying, always saying, always saying. And then he goes and he makes this joke about banging Courtney on Instagram. And it's just a joke. And so, yes, I would not be surprised if his defense is like, you know what, she showed that she didn't care. So I don't care. I'm like, okay, so you're showing that you are down
Starting point is 00:48:20 for some like revenge sluthaming almost, right? It's like a shade away from that. It just is, it's a day class set, okay? Yeah, he's stupid pig. So we, you just see Andy's face and he's just bored. He's like, why am I even here? I don't even watch this show. So he's like, well, if you were asked you, Captain,
Starting point is 00:48:40 were you aware of the toxic culture, the guys created? It's like, here we go again, you know. And so he just keeps asking the same question over and over as you've already pointed out. And he's like, well, you know, I think Kate should have brought some things to my attention that would have changed the die cat. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Yeah, no wonder it's again, because I'm reading this thing. It felt good. You just did, sorry. It felt good to hear it again though. But I would not be in the Brian part because I read his tweets It's okay So Kate and Riley started talking about how you know they didn't know what the guys were saying in the Vance because you know
Starting point is 00:49:11 Guys were saying such shitty things in the Vance like half it didn't even make it to this reunion and they start talking about You know they said this and they said this and they said this and then ashton so condescending legal is like Can one of you guys talk to torn? We can't hear you. Like, right. It goes. Right. I'm not listening anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:32 So, Catlin, oh, yeah, that's always our problem, isn't it? So, Catlin Lee is like, Kevin, you asked why I didn't know. What would you have done differently to make me aware of what I didn't know? Kevin's like, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, enough to just say what you're feeling instead of trying to like hide it behind Everything and that like you're not saying anything bad stupid. So he's like, I'm not saying that and he goes now You're saying that I didn't know and I shouldn't know and he's like, well, honestly and then Brian jumps in He's like, well, honestly, I felt that way too. I thought we were all good Riley like by the end of it I thought we were all good. Well, yeah, because you were talking shit behind her back
Starting point is 00:50:24 You were going up to her, telling her everything's great, and you love her, this and that. But then behind her back, you're like, what a fucking bitch, let's get rid of her. That's why you thought everything was good, dumb dumb. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, because Rada's like, you were going off on me on day one, you didn't even know me and everything,
Starting point is 00:50:42 and yeah, I thought we were good, and then I watched it all back, and like, no. And you know, and she's like, I didn't even know me and everything. And yeah, I thought we were good. And then I watched it all back. I'm like, no. And you know, and she's like, you know, I didn't know what you were saying. She's like, you know, very damn well. But I think of you the moment I think of you, got it, got it, got it. Yeah, because they're saying, oh,
Starting point is 00:50:55 well, you spoke to us that way. How can you, how can Riley of all people tell us how we were speaking? And she's like, I said it to your face. You know, unlike you who are all like coffee clatching together to talk about the girls behind their back, you know, I'm trying to bring it down. Yeah. And Kevin's like, it's like, I know you, and you're a hot head, and you're like, I'm not a hot head. Meanwhile, does Ashne get called a hot head and he's the only one who actually punched glass. No. Yeah. Well, they all start cracking up, because Riley, of course, is a hothead. And she's like, I'm very reactionary, which, you know, I know you love that, but you
Starting point is 00:51:31 too stupid conservative. But do you think I was treated in a way that I ever reacted to how I was treated? And Kevin's like, I'm not saying that you guys reacted badly, whatever, because of how it was shown. But I'm just saying that as a crew member, it's like, oh, because of how it was shown. But I'm just saying that as a crew member, it's like, oh, because of how it was shown. Okay, so they're only reacting badly now because the editor has made it all look bad
Starting point is 00:51:52 and so now they're all bad, because of the editor. Yeah, like listen to yourself. It also really made me mad that Andy did not ask Kevin why it was such a big fucking deal that Riley requested a paleo option at that dinner because that was really one thing Sour'd between Riley and the rest of the crew when she's like can we get a paleo option? And he's like no you can't get a paleo option and he and he he and he where he he basically was like you order He was very condescending at rude when he said basically like you are what I'm ordering now you order a month
Starting point is 00:52:21 You're turned and that turned into the whole giant fight And Andy didn't even dig into any of that, not even a sketch. And it would have been, that was, first of all, I loved that fight. I thought that was great TV. But also, it's like another really important opportunity to put someone like Kevin on the hot seat for some bullshit as opposed to asking Captain Lee
Starting point is 00:52:41 for the 15th time if Kate should have come to him with the complaints. Yeah. So next up, let's have an Abbey montage As opposed to asking Captain Lee for the 15th time if Kate should come to him with the complaints. Yeah. So next up, let's have an Abbey montage because I'm wondering what Abbey's up to. I mean, Abbey, what a huge character on this show. Let's get back to her. She's great.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Her name begins and ends with a vowel. So basically, we go through her whole experience and then quitting and then that leads into Riley. And so it's a montage of Riley yelling at everybody. Fuck you Tanner, that's a great. It's just my personal favorite. My favorite. Fucker, you just stand up to me Tanner. That was like, she's so good.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Then Ashton trying to get her fired and I just put cheering through the entire Riley Montage because that shit was hilarious. So then we come back and Andy goes, well, that's pretty definitive. And by the way, Andy never asked a single question to Ashton to say something like, how would you expect your employee to work knowing that you're actively trying to get her fired. You know, he never questions Ash and for that whole bullshit thing that he did with Riley on that in terms of that. Well, they get to that a little bit, a little bit.
Starting point is 00:53:53 They get to that a little bit in a little bit, okay? Let's delve into it a little bit. Yeah, we totally should've posted it. Listen how articulate we are. Yeah, the captain is like, Aston, I think he predispose the other male members of the crew towards Riley because your previous experience with her, you captain is like, Austin, I think you predispose the other male members of the crew toward Riley, because your previous experience with her, you know, like brace your boys. Here comes our real fire bow. So they were prepared for
Starting point is 00:54:12 the worst. You didn't get a fair second chance. And as she's like, well, I said she was a hard worker. And that was my intention. Why would I sabotage the rest of my season by getting them a get stope when I already understood the challenge? It would have been captain, productive captain. No, you were doing it to get all the my season by getting them a gift stove when I already understood the challenge. It would have been counterproductive, Captain. Uh, no, you were doing it to get all the boys on your side. So you would have more force when you tried to get rid of her ass. What'd you try to do?
Starting point is 00:54:33 Like how stupid do you think everybody is? It's watching this. It's so, I know what you did. Yeah. And they show a clip of what he says to the, the guys. I mean, I do think admittedly it's not like, it's not like he says this girl's a super fucking bitch. Be careful, da da da da da. He does tell them she likes to be informed,
Starting point is 00:54:50 but still, he still does poison the well a little bit. And it's very obvious right in the beginning that there is a boys club and she's not allowed in it. Take that sip. Enjoy that poroctal. It was, God, that's a thick smoothie. So I actually was like, well, I could see how I could be, it could be taken the wrong way. Take that sit enjoy that brought it was god that's a thick smoothie so I Well, I could see how I could be it could be taken the wrong way and I have apologize and it's just making me crazy
Starting point is 00:55:11 This ash didn't apology to her that he doesn't mean shit. Just stand up for yourself then If you know, you know either apologize correctly or just don't do it, you know, but this is just You're like the saddest criminal mayor of all time. You know, it's like the worst apology to her. So Riley's like, well, who are you apologizing to then? And he goes, well, you know, watching the last season, I also take full responsibility that I should have been more professional in taking care when I saw a divide that I helped cause, you know, so and Kate and Riley are just laughing because his apologies are ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:55:46 And then, but then you got very upset with Kevin Riley about that situation. I was wondering when he was going to turn this into his own. Yeah, because that's when he goes, because he's doing a very nice little apology and he goes, but in saying that, I do want to bring up a point. I was like, oh, here we go. Oh, I guess it wasn't so much of an apology after all. Captain, you got upset at Kevin when he overheard something and then he went to Joel Bryan. That's called Gassip. As in the latest Gassip is that Cheerios is coming out of the brand new flavor and I say, Bullshit, I like the classic and
Starting point is 00:56:19 don't give me more. Anyway, what are we talking about? When I was in the Wheelhouse having a conversation with Kate and she told you, you know, she told Riley, what do you think about that Riley? Do you think that is professional? What does that have to do with anything? No? That's not what you're talking about. That's true. I mean, like, you know, it's definitely it was a point that we knew was going to come up come up because that was a big bone of contention. But
Starting point is 00:56:43 that wasn't what this this is about could, could, I guess it is, in his mind it does make sense because he's thinking to himself, I'm trying to manage her and I'm trying, you know, like I could have been more professional, but it didn't help that Kate went and like told Riley something to get Riley mad. But let's also not not let's not forget what he was telling Captain Lee in that in the Wheelhouse there. He was going there to tattle on Riley because she hadn't done the fucking research that he was supposed to do as Bowson, okay. He gave her sort of like a he gave her something that would be good for her in name only, a fishing excursion, but then he didn't, as opposed, and he should have like researched it and figured out whatever. He sent her up on purpose.
Starting point is 00:57:29 He sent her on a fishing exposition. He sent her up. He sent her up. He said, literal fishing when they say, wow, we're sending you on a fishing expedition. He literally sent her on a fishing expedition and didn't do any research to find out if it was even legal to be in those waters, which it wasn't. So he went and tattled, even though he's the boss and he should be the one to know if they were in a legal waters or not. I mean the guys just such a fucking asshole and he's like well yeah then why is it okay for Kate
Starting point is 00:57:51 to run and tell the gossip but it wasn't okay for me to gossip with the guys. Well one is Kate was telling her because it was affecting her job you were trying to get her fired and make her look like immediate. Yeah. And the other thing it has in common is that you were both, you were trying to undermine Riley in both situations. Like what don't you understand? Exactly. Because in the other, because in the other situation where Kevin went and told Brian, that's because Courtney
Starting point is 00:58:14 is like telling Kate, like I just got this annoying text that it, and it's not about trying to get someone fired. It's like this is, you know, it, she's like she's like, this is why I'm acting like this right now. I'm like upset because Brian just sent me this text and it's pissing me off. And then Kevin went and gossiped. And that's just, it's just like, that was purely a gossipy move,
Starting point is 00:58:36 whereas Kate is like, oh, this guy's trying to get you fired. You know, like, I'm looking out for you because right now this guy who has addressed me in the van, and you're like one of my few allies that I have on this boat Like I got I got to make sure that you're okay because I can't be losing it Right, I mean that's definitely giving Kate the benefit of the doubt by the way because I I do understand that there It was not Kate's most professional moment. Let me not let me not ignore that. It was not her most professional moment But on like a human level, I understood
Starting point is 00:59:05 why she did that. So then captain. So, Ashton has just tried to turn all of this around again, you know, after his faux apology. So captains like, you know what Ashton, what I really think it is is you've got no remorse for this season or your behavior, you know, if you didn't want to say that and if Kevin didn't want to say that and if he shouldn't have done it, you know, whoever he you should have just called me aside and asked him like well it has a spin off effect because it aggravated Riley and it inflamed the situation which you your situation you created that situation you created it and then inflamed it and he's like you
Starting point is 00:59:41 can't deny that captain and. And Kate's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. But Brian Bukes, the Dalvin, Brian Bukes, the Dalvin. So then Andy stops. He goes, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me ask you, Captain, is there anything that Kate has ever done on the boat that you have an issue with anything, anything at all? At which point I was like, oh, I was like,
Starting point is 01:00:02 Andy, you've been annoying me this hour, but now you're actively, you are, now you're going, you're heading the wrong way. Now you're in the park and the wrong way. Now you're on the literal offense for the guys. Like you're pathetic at this point. So Simone is cheering because she's a fucking moron who can't cut a lemon still probably.
Starting point is 01:00:21 And so the captain's like, oh yeah, and all the boys are laughing. And Kate's like, okay, you wanna go through all of the things we've talked about. Let's start from the beginning. You want this chronological? How do you want this? And he goes, now, now it seems that there is nothing that she could do that you would ever have a problem with, captain.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Yeah. And me, what? So Andy is calling out favoritism when he can't even hold people accountable. Let's just remind people about this. Yeah. And he's like a wiping jizz off of his mouth at the moment while he's talking about favoritism and a reunion. Fucking.
Starting point is 01:00:52 And so. And so by the way, this is the question that gets like more follow up questions than anything else. Like, oh, penis, penis, what else? What else? What from this season? What from this season? The laundry?
Starting point is 01:01:03 Why do you laundry? You know, it's just aggravating as a viewer even it just not even take away all this stuff that we're all angry about in terms of you know misogyny etc just in terms of a viewer of this show that like Andy the things that Andy is harping on wears other things that we just want to simply be addressed as simple fans of the show Take away all of this stuff that we're talking about. He's just not doing it. He's failing at his job.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Laundry, but the laundry, okay, was the laundry throw after Brian called her a bitch and yelled at her because she was talking about a yachty or was it after Ashton sexually, like was trying to like make out with her and then punch and went down? Which part was this reaction to? You know, none of those get follow up questions.
Starting point is 01:01:46 It's just the laundry on the floor. Long and the floor. Yeah, he's like, I mean, you're at the table. Tates it in there throwing laundry on the ground and you don't have any problems. Whoa. And he's basically like everyone was shit faced. What am I supposed to respond?
Starting point is 01:02:05 Like, okay, you have a problem. Do you guys have a problem with some of throwing laundry on the ground? But then you've got Ashton, who can't walk, calling Tanner in here, who can't even speak. And asking Tanner, what do you think about kids? They go up and like, his superior, he's like, none of this makes sense.
Starting point is 01:02:23 The only thing they wanna focus on is laundry when they were all acting like, none of this makes sense. The only thing they want to focus on is laundry when they were all acting like a bunch of drunk idiots, you know? And he's like, well, what about the penis cave? What about that? What about that? They ordered a penis cave. She brought out, she had him bring out the penis cave. Yeah, what about that?
Starting point is 01:02:37 I mean, here's Andy, do you want, do you want to take it to shut up, mountain? Because we will gladly furnish you with one. If these questions do not have him, I will not have him I will not have him I'm trying to buy a map. I'm out of mountain. Wow Wow, set up mountain has some extremely important people are there and he's not making it to that mountain fuck That he's not getting his face on anything Wow, that's I'm in crazy
Starting point is 01:03:03 He did not even not even allowed on shut up. No, bro. So Kate's like, oh, well, you know what they asked for the cake So and kept like all right. Well, that one could have been handled better and Ashley goes oh snap a kitten somewhere and he goes, oh are we asked in? They're all laughing. Yeah, here's a problem. You think your behavior all season has been beyond reproach and he's like Hey, no Kevin's like We're the ones because you're not apologizing and then Andy's like well, they've kind of have a politician He's got tears in his eyes look. He's got tears. I've got tears in my eyes too from gagging Their penises tears in my eyes too from gagging on their penises your penis and really got because who's got tears in my eyes because
Starting point is 01:03:48 ash didn't touch because for what and he's like we've got tears look at him and she goes oh give me a fucking break and I'm here because he did though and captain says I don't think your impologies are sincere, right? You can apologize till pissed on chickens get opposable thumbs to hold a towel to wipe themselves off, all right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:12 And, you know, the reason why, by the way, the reason why their apologies are not coming off sincere is that there's always an implication that they were provoked to be that way by the women. And that's why no one is taking what they have to say seriously, because it feels like bullshit. It feels like they are apologizing for how they reacted when we are saying, no, we want you to apologize for how you acted. Well, there's also a huge difference between throwing laundry on the ground and assault, which in both Ashton and Kevin's case stands.
Starting point is 01:04:49 They're trying to compare things like, oh, Kate was a bitch. Kate says bitchy thinks to people and then the captain just sticks up for her. Well, you assaulted a woman. Both of you. And you're so like, how are we going to compare that? Are we going to pretend like, oh, it's just all the same apology. Let's just all go around the room and say, you know, apologize. Okay, this one's a murderer.
Starting point is 01:05:12 That one, you know, ran over a puppy. That lady was bitchy to a coworker. It's like it's not all the same thing. It's not all the same support group. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So where are we at? I know I'm like, I don't remember
Starting point is 01:05:28 the last thing that you mentioned that someone said. Basically, ashen is like, we're saying that, always saying, captain, is that there's behavior from the other side that is not acceptable in anybody's standard in the yachting professional yachting industry, which I've just fucked my way into a new position by the way there. And instead of acknowledging that you're protecting Kate, and that is unprofessional. I think you think of it however you want to. Yeah, Ash, and it's like, you blatantly just said that Kate is your best friend, you always have a back. And Captain Lee's like, well, you wouldn't want to have that same position.
Starting point is 01:05:59 You wouldn't want to. He's like, I don't get it. Answer my question. You wouldn't want to on that same position after serving under me for six years. And I'm not going to call the incident. And I'm not, and I'm not going to call the insignificant bullshit that you guys are calling. He's basically saying, uh, yeah, she's worked for me for six years. So she does get a longer leash and, uh, and you're mad at me that I'm not like, you know, calling her up to the principal's office
Starting point is 01:06:25 because she threw laundry on the ground, you know? Yeah. And that's like fine then. And he's like, well, take it however you want. I don't give a shit. So then Andy, this must be a question for the boys because it's read through a viewer's voice. And it's like, so when you said, did you slap her,
Starting point is 01:06:42 the dick was in the face with your dick? Do you think that that's okay? It's a crazy woman. Go ahead in the dick in the face with your dick? Do you think that that's okay? That's a crazy woman. Go ahead, slap me in the face with your dick. Let me see if I think it's okay. All right. Meanwhile, Brian, you know, Brian had a lot to say when he perceived that he was being called a yachty,
Starting point is 01:06:58 even though he wasn't. He certainly piped up with something to say to Kate. But here, someone saying, did you slap her with your dick, which is really obnoxious language Doesn't that mean you say about that? Doesn't that mean you say about that? And then Ashton's like, well, I don't think it's okay And I've seen a therapist in the last week and that's something that we identified and we need to identify the root issues that cause that anger Oh, okay, so this all goes back to your dad.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Does this is all your default of everything in your past, Ashton, your poor storyline, and now you're an asshole. So we have to address that. Like, let's just, can we have one fucking thing from you? This is not about what a victim you are. I know, and also, like, this isn't even psycho babble. This is, it's not even psycho-drivel. It's, this is like a fortune cookie therapy.
Starting point is 01:07:48 I mean, like, well, you know, that's, you know, we've identified that I've said something terrible and we're going to continue to identify why I had to identify that. So, I'm like, that doesn't mean anything. Yeah, it doesn't mean anything. One week before the reunion, you just went to somebody who happened to give you all the answers that you needed. Yeah, You just... So the captain did it.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Well, you should be happy, Ronnie. You were the one who was saying that you were mad when Andy asked him if he was going to therapy on Watch Happens Live and he said, I'm going to... I'm doing it myself. At least he's seeing a therapist now. Probably the same one that helps Jack's out. He only does it because people get mad at him online. It doesn't count, you know? Like he... people got mad because he went on watch what happens and said you know therapy starts with yourself So yes, I am working on myself was made no fucking sense and then people got mad at him So he made sure to to say that he went to a therapist one week before he came on the show. It's like Just so phony so the cap and walks off and he's like I'm not putting up with this shit
Starting point is 01:08:44 It's like when they try to put fruity pebbles in my bowl god damn it damn dickheads Like dickheads, so he walks off and Ashton is still going on about root issues Causes root issues of childhood trauma trauma trauma child It's like oh god And he's like is captain Lee going to come back and when he does come back, we'll have someone have told him about What happened this season? This girl gonna tell him about what the girls went through because they really should By the way also didn't auntie didn't ask a single question Right
Starting point is 01:09:18 Correct me if I'm wrong. He didn't ask a single question about that get that guest Brandy It was a total mess at the beginning of the season, who had like, sunstroke or, you know, what she was like, the sloppiest guest in the history of below deck and Andy didn't even ask any questions about her. No, they showed her in a montage and brought her up like the crazy guests. I mean, talk about a failure of hosting right there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:39 So, yeah, he's like, he's definitely going back. Why would he leave? And Rally's like, uh, because he's fucking over it. Why do you think? Yeah. And Matt says like, I think he's definitely going back. Why would he leave? And Rally is like, cause he's fucking over it. Why do you think? And Mash was like, I think he's getting confused. Is what's going on? Kevin's like, he's in the hot seat. There's sort of like age shaping him now.
Starting point is 01:09:55 So he keeps like, all right, hot take over. Hot take over because unlike the guys, I actually am capable of doing things. So okay, let's go to the list. Let's go to the list, go to the Eric grievances, let's go through it, let's go through it. And Kevin's like, well, we're apologizing for things that have happened during the season, you know, but on this side, the ladies, they don't have to apologize for everything.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Kevin's like, that's what we're going to do it. Okay, we're going to go through it. And I'll apologize for what has to be apologized for. I'm sorry to the laundry on the ground. Next, why don't you apologize to me about kicking sand in my face. Okay, let's do that. Yeah. Um, stupid, of course. You can't work out that lovely. Kevin says his thing then Riley's like, but apologies, don't make it okay. And kids like, yeah, yeah, let me list it.
Starting point is 01:10:33 And Andy goes, okay, let's start with laundry. Fucking Andy is laundry. I know. Up with Andy and laundry. He's obsessed at this point. So the poor guy is apology. And saves him. Wait, before that, before that, I like Riley.
Starting point is 01:10:43 She goes, I'm sorry, I don't take mistreatment She goes, I'm sorry, I don't take mistreatment. Yeah, sorry, sorry, I don't take mistreatment, sorry. So Courtney's like, um, we're not the troublemakers. The troublemakers are the ones that cause the behavior, that cause the reaction, and then the people that react are the ones that become a problem because it's exhausting, you know? But it's much more exhausting to have to sit over here and tell you why it's a problem all the time. Andy. Yeah. And ashton's like, oh, what I'm hearing is that sometimes you feel justified in your behavior. And you say it causes you to act out. She's like, when did I act out? Did you ever see me act out? And he's like, no, no, I'm just saying in general women. Yeah. You guys, he's like, to your point, we say something that causes you to react to them,
Starting point is 01:11:27 we get mad at you for reacting. And I get that. But sometimes, and she's, no, not sometimes, don't create the problem that makes a reaction and it won't happen. And he just stops. So first, he just stops at him up. So, Brienne from Kansas, after watching the footage, Brienne, after watching the footage, was Kate paying Brian a compliment by calling you a Yati because of course, it's a question
Starting point is 01:11:52 to the men, so it's Brienne from Kansas. Wasn't Kate paying you a compliment by calling you a Yati? And Brian's like, well, you know, it's hard to know and Kate is being authentic or not, you know, like for when, you know, when she says, you're really nice, you'd be a great yachtie. I don't know if she's really saying, you're really nice, you make a great yachtie or you're really attractive and I like you, so I have to put her down, you know, because women, I'm always getting a vibe off them, just like Ashton.
Starting point is 01:12:16 And Andy's like, uh, what I thought of yachtie was, you know what, what is a yachtie? Simone? So you're asking Simone to fuck with Simone now. Simone's like, they're party animals, and they party too hard and waste them money into bad legal things. I was like, what? I was like, okay.
Starting point is 01:12:34 So they're party animals. We just talked about how you guys like fall down drunk every single charter. They party too hard, addressed, and they waste their money, addressed. As they do bad legal things, which, They party too hard addressed and they waste their money addressed Ashen things which Probably yes check gonna guess there's some coke out nights involved in some of this right and you know
Starting point is 01:13:00 Don't forget the money thing don't forget that ashton lost about $1,200 having to pay for the new DJ equipment which also was not addressed at all the fact that he was so wasted at a public resort that he can't embald and destroyed DJ equipment. I mean, not even, not even addressed, not even addressed why it's okay for Ashton to get wasted and everything. You can't be held responsible for what happens, but Kate gets drunk and throws laundry on the ground and that's somehow worse than than the way As Ashom behaved in the public space. Yeah, Washington was held responsible. He had to pay it. He did, I know, but I'm just saying that like, God, no, I can't believe he had that thing where he said, I can't be responsible, I'm smushed in.
Starting point is 01:13:36 I'm so much like, if someone had called me a yachty, no one would watch his season and call you a yachty. So then Riley says some smart- ass thing I didn't hear. I was like, yeah, so expensive is calling the chef, but I didn't hear it because I were talking to him. Yeah, she says calling a chef not a chef, huh? And then Kate's like, I didn't call you a yachty. I said, you packed the cooler really well.
Starting point is 01:13:59 You're a great yachty. Because the whole thing he was mad about was that, he's like, please don't call me a yachty. And she goes, see a true yachty would not want to be called a yachty. And then he was like, you're a bitch. It's like, no, do you not understand language? Do you understand how language works? Do you not understand that on this show
Starting point is 01:14:15 that you've now watched six seasons or seven seasons of that they say that with pride on this show? You dumbass. So then it comes back to a viewer question. Another viewer question must be for us. So he's like, man, this viewer's really busy. He says you encourage bullying and hate of a fellow human being. Do you regret how you treated Riley?
Starting point is 01:14:38 He's like, I already said I regretted a lot of it, Andy. He's like, but do you see the thing she was reacting to? And he's like 100%. You know 100% and then less I can see 100% and try to make it right. You know, we both said inappropriate things in both apologizes. I said, oh, wow, almost made it through an apology. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And he's like, I 100% tried to make it work. She's like, um, wasn't it night one that you said you were done with me? 100% tried to make it work. She's like, um, wasn't it night one that you said you were done with me? So, um, and then oh, so here's a question for Riley for hey Riley Don't you see how defending yourself aggressively makes matters worse, which is such a condescending question to ask her
Starting point is 01:15:18 She's like, yeah, I fight fire with fire. I mean honestly I fight fire with fire in a bow and arrow. And honestly if I can find a mace, I'll swing a fucking mace at the fire. I don't fucking care. Fucking fire who needs it, you know? I fought, I fought God it with God in Andy, basically. She's like, you know, I came on here to do a good job and I was mistreated basically. And Andy's like, wait, oh, here's a captain. Here's a captain
Starting point is 01:15:46 Why did you leave captain and he's like I've just felt overwhelmed and it was an oppositive conversation and I don't want to be a part of a negative Energy and Kevin starts laughing. He just such a fuck. He just I like to say that I went I And also like to say that backstage there was nothing but honey smacks, which is an inferior cereal So I thought I could either be back here with a shit cereal or about there with some shit guys And I thought let's be with the shit guys and kick some ass So you won't work with Ashton again. Will you work with Riley again? And he's like good question And let's some things change probably not
Starting point is 01:16:23 All right, come on and he's like, good question. Unless something's changed, probably not. All right. Come on. And he's like, well, for you in case, after seeing how Rally talked to Ashton, who was her boss, would you be okay with someone under you talking to you that way? And he's like, that was again, a defensive action, by the way, by that question is a defensive action. Yeah. The captives like, that's no, no no I would yeah So Ashens like he said well, why didn't you you know like why didn't you hold? Sorry, that's actually didn't say that was the question was for Ashens
Starting point is 01:16:57 Ashden why didn't you hold Brian and Tanner to the same standard? She wasn't allowed to make mistakes, but they were and Ashens like well Actually if you look back there was I had a fight with Brian early on and then I had three to four Stern discussions with Tanner and I said Tanner You have to put that into Kate. Otherwise you can have to slap you dick on her to make sure she knows Who's in charge here? And I said that very sternly to him very very sternly. Yes I'd very very stern conversations with him. They just went shown indeed and The next question is about Ross. You know, what do you think about your buddy Ross?
Starting point is 01:17:30 Like, he was successful at managing Riley. He's like, Ross had his toughest time as I did, Andy. And Riley's like, oh really? Why are you nodding your head, Brian? And Brian's like, I'm friends with Ross and we've spoken about it. She goes, oh yeah, you're really good friends because I gave you this never to go crash at this house
Starting point is 01:17:45 Yeah, yeah, you think you're so special. Guess what? Guess where I shop last night at Ross Yeah, I say it's a money. Okay. Did you save money? No, cuz you're not real friends with Ross You don't know how to dress for less. What are we talking about Andy? Fuck Ross. Fuck you Andy Matches like I'm trying to have a discussion here Riley So yeah, and Ross and I are friends we spoke last night and so we had a miscommunication This is ridiculous. He's asking you about our relationships to dump ring and Ross and I are friends we spoke last night and so we had a miscommunication this is ridiculous He's asking you about our relationships to don't bring and Ross and then he's like I told him to I asked him about Ross And she's like oh alright and then as she goes listen more listen more
Starting point is 01:18:16 Cute listen more listen to the women God and as she's like Ross felt frustrated at the end. He said he wished he pulled the trigger on firing her But guess what he didn't any work. He learned to work with her at the end. He said he wished he pulled the trigger on firing her. But guess what? He didn't, he learned to work with her at the end. You know? Yeah, also Riley is easy for Christ's sake. I'm certainly not. Don't forget though, by the way, that Ross also drunkily tried to kiss Riley in a bathroom
Starting point is 01:18:37 last season. And sort of, when I look at the radar, just a classy, funny show. So then, so now Andy, of course asked this question. And by the way, we said it last week, but you really must also watch Leslie Jones's Twitter because she was sort of live tweeting and she was recording these video reactions that were hilarious.
Starting point is 01:18:55 And this is one of the things that pissed her off and it pissed me off too. I'm sure it pissed you off as well as many of our listeners. After all this, so it's the end of the reunion. And Andy's like, well, the guys have talked about areas of growth they need to do. What about the women if you found something to improve and change? Like why do I mean, yes, technically in life, we all always need to improve and change.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Yes. But why? Just because the guys who are pigs and need to grow, why is it that okay, but now what about you two women? Why? Why is that question even asked? Well, you know, I'd like to change being physically attacked by two different men on this boat. That would be fun to change. I wish I would like to train my eyes to not sting so
Starting point is 01:19:35 much when they're sanded them. That would be great. That would feel great. She's like, I'd like to be more patient and more understanding with people who don't Understand how to cut lemons. That would be fun. I'm very reactionary and I'm just gonna keep saying reactionary because still Even though we've had five commercial breaks. No one has corrected me and told me what that word means. So I'm gonna change that and academy And it got so you want to change that. Yeah, it's absolutely I do I do because you know if I I need to learn to get my point better across, OK? And Andy's like, Simone, we go into Simone being in a unique position as a woman of color.
Starting point is 01:20:14 And she basically, you know, you can say this for the very last question, by the way. Yeah, I get the most. I get the most. Yeah, we think of her. Like, probably one of the more important questions is just a throw away at the end of the reunion. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:26 And her answer is interesting. And she talks about how there are very few people. And it was very hard for her to get a job because everybody said right to her face, they just want blondes. Everybody just wants blondes. And what she did get a job, she felt like she had to work extra, extra hard to prove herself.
Starting point is 01:20:44 And as a minority, people are always looking at you thinking Well, how is she conducting herself and you know, you don't want to become a stereotype and be labeled the angry black woman and So I would kind of just get along to go along but I had to learn in this job that if I'm upset, you know, I actually have to speak to the person and not just I think that I don't have the right to do that or whatever. And K, it's like you did amazing. And then Andy asked Captain if he'd do anything differently and actually goes, fire me, fire me.
Starting point is 01:21:16 He's like, yeah, firing is not always the answer. Sometimes get old fashioned scalping works. He goes, he's like, you know, he's like, you know, after I, you know, I wish I'd been more privy to what's going on, privy, that's the work with two Vs. I'm letting Riley know that, since she seems to have some vocabulary issues. And, you know, after I got to see the season
Starting point is 01:21:36 I was shocked and appalled by everything I saw on Fold, and every time I thought there was nothing that they could do to shock an appalming, it would turn out to be untrue, and I'm glad I wore these boots today because I'm ready to kick some ass Yeah And next year's gonna be different. He's gonna make some changes and Kate has moved to New York and she's loving it And it's also left the show by the way We should mention that she announced yep, she announced yesterday. She's out.
Starting point is 01:22:05 She's very sad about that. But I think she'll be back. Yeah, she made it sound like, well, she was still really nice to Andy in it. I was like, you know, I'm going to still do everything I can to serve King Andy in Andy's corner or whatever. Yeah, that was, that was a little bit of a me, it was a mexit sort of reference there, which I liked. So we'll see. Andy's like, Andy, of course, this is how Andy ends it. It was a little bit of a mech, it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was a mech- it was He's like, well, this has been a dramatic season. So, you guys are gonna go out together? Come on, Courtney, are you gonna fuck Brian tonight?
Starting point is 01:22:48 Yeah. You're gonna fuck him right. Come on, at least a blowy Courtney, come on, it's Brian, he's hot. Yeah, she's like, don't be silly, don't even finish that conversation, Andy. You know, she's having a standy. Yeah, because he's like making it,
Starting point is 01:23:02 he's like, yeah, he's so corny. Yeah, I think he's like, he's trying to make a joke I think and she's just like uh no We're not joking about this. Okay, she's like I already made it very clear that we will not be friends I will not tolerate the way you've spoken to me. I drew the line and I don't know if you heard it was a great moment Where she stood up for herself and while she's saying it you hear the guys just like laughing like oh she's mad now, which is like Guess they have learned zero. And Andy's laughing, like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
Starting point is 01:23:30 boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
Starting point is 01:23:38 boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, Well done. It was a disaster. It was a full-fledged disaster. People are not happy online. We put up some polls. I put up a poll on Instagram and went on Twitter just to see where people were at. Like, did Andy redeem himself? Was it an epic fail?
Starting point is 01:23:57 It is not going well for Andy on our polls. I'll say that much. It's not a good look. God. Well, you know, nailed that much. It's it's not not a good look. Well, you know nailed that one So that brings us to the end of this season I have to be honest it makes it hard for me to even watch the next below deck. I'm so sick of it I'm tired of it. I need a break. I need like I need a silkwood shower from this show in general
Starting point is 01:24:21 I vote yeah, I need a break I So in general, I need a break. I still love the franchise. I think it's great. I watched a below deck sailing out before I watched the reunion so I wasn't poisoned, but it is really hard to now be like, oh, and then this is what happened in below deck sailing out. Well, they went sailing. There were some girls on, they were vegan.
Starting point is 01:24:44 Jenna felt embarrassed that she hooked up with Adam in the bathtub. A hot tub. Watching Jenna flail all over the place trying to get with Adam is fucking pathetic. Get some self expect girl. Like I can't. It's hard to watch. And pageant Sierra bickering.
Starting point is 01:24:58 I mean Sierra also is grading me. She's really, you know, I honestly can't stand her so far. But, yeah, but I, but I will say this, the captain is so cute. That cute little captain Glenn. Oh my god, I just want to squeeze his little cheeks. And fucking chef acting like having to make some vegan things is killing him. And it's the hardest thing. He actually says, I didn't do study this hard in school. Yeah, we knew Adam. Okay, we knew I know Vegetables. How hard is that you have to roast some vegetables? Okay, yeah, I feel like you're like this culinary feet, okay? Vegetables 10 years ago, I would have been like okay, but honestly, I mean vegan food is really
Starting point is 01:25:43 It's become very mainstream. I mean even frickin burger king has an impossible burger. I know that's not vegan, but the point is that there's like vegan, vegan ingredients and knowledge of a vegan cuisine is not some foreign exotic thing. And I mean, I remember when there was top chef masters, I think it was top chef masters. Maybe in its final season, they had to cook a vegan meal for Zoidetsch Nell, and they were all like, what do I do? It may not have even been vegan,
Starting point is 01:26:11 it may have just been vegetarian, and they were all like, I think it was vegan. I was vegan. People have been like, yeah. I mean, there is difficult, there's like, the gums or whatever you can use, all the weird ingredients to thicken things.
Starting point is 01:26:25 There is that chemistry part, but in its essence, it's just not animal products. Like, you can literally, you can make some frozen vegetables, you dope. Yeah, or you just don't make things that are like normally with non vegan things and try to make a vegan version of it. That's where it gets hard. It gets easier, I imagine. When you focus on recipes that are just innately vegan, it's like a delicious, I don't know, like a what do you call an ancient grain of some sort, a farro bowl that has various roasted vegetables
Starting point is 01:26:58 in it with some olive oil and vinegar. You know, it's not that hard, but yeah, he acts like it's in the world. And he also is very condescending to Georgia who doesn't like it. And I like how prickly she's getting about it. She said, what did she say? She said, respect existence or respect resistance. Or respect resistance.
Starting point is 01:27:24 I was like, that's good. Yeah. Um, yeah, that's, I just, the show itself, I guess, is fine. I just need a break from below deck, but it ain't going to happen. Hopefully, but you got six days. You got six days. Listen, you'll, you'll be in better spirits by Monday. And, and we're going to put that put the toxic below dexies and behind us and just focus on giant sales and cramped quarters and a very bland couple bickering. Yeah, I'm in.
Starting point is 01:27:54 All right, everybody. Thanks so much for being here today and always. We will see some of you in Kentucky and in Nebraska this week. Lawrence, I week. Lawrence. We'll see you. Lawrence fucking Kansas. Sorry, I had a K in my mind. Well, we'll be in Kentucky later, but for right now,
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