Watch What Crappens - Bonus: Love is Blind

Episode Date: March 23, 2020

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So if you want to hear this go up to that level, and thanks everybody for being here as usual. Hi. Okay, so we wanted to do Love Is Blind because everybody's talking about it. And then we're like, well, we don't have time in our schedule. And then we're not watching, you know, we're not covering a lot of promises.

We don't have time in our schedule. So how are we going to cover Love Is Blind? No, blah, blah. So we watched an entire fucking thing just to do one bonus episode. I mean, what the? Pretty much. Well, it was a combination of watching a whole show

for one episode, but it was also everyone was talking about it. Basically, until the pandemic arrived, everyone was talking about love is blind. You could maybe make an argument that it was part of the pandemic, right? But everyone was talking about it. No one could stop talking about it. And so we were, it's not the normal show that I watch. You know, I don't watch too many of the romantic reality shows, but since I have become a convert to Love Island UK, I thought, well, maybe, you know, maybe I am developing an interest in sort of romantic reality. So I was like, okay, I'll give it a shot too.

And, and, you know, here we are. I'm here, we are. Yeah, so romantic reality, here we are. And here we are. Yeah, so romantic reality. I covered the Bachelor on My Other Show. And it's crazy and fake. But then over the years, you start seeing some of these people really do take it seriously. And I guess they're not faking it.

Or at least their tears look real. I mean, I don't know. I based everything on whether someone can cry, like if they're telling the truth or not. And generally, I believe if I see real tears. So then I've started getting basically brainwashed, like believing that stuff more. So I'm not sure. With this one, I don't know that I did, but it was super fun to watch it.

It was crazy. This shows crazy earthen. I thought it could be. So let's just pretend like you guys haven't seen it. And again, go through what it basically is. Yeah, ready to go. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I thought, by the way, I'll say this. I thought it was crazy.

I actually did not enjoy it. I'm just gonna put it out there. I'm happy to say it. This to me was not an enjoyable experience for me. I kept on thinking it was about to get better. And every episode there'd be like a moment where you say, ooh, and then, but I thought that by and large, I thought it was actually very boring and very uninteresting.

I thought the people were across the board, very uninteresting, but they will be hilarious to make fun of. That's for sure. Well, most, you know, who's, who's like that couples, okay? Good couples. Yeah. Do you really want to go to dinner with them? No, you don't okay, and that's why they have to go out with couple friends and they have to make friends and be couples with Other couples because they can just bore the fuck out of each other, okay? The guys like I married this girl She's the most boring thing I've ever met in my life

I have to go talk to another dude and we can talk about sports and then the guys like fun The dude to talk to you and the girls like, oh my God, man, right? And that's how I've always looked at it as a waiter because I, you know, wait on that all the time. And so that's why I think like waiting tables has made me never want to be in a couple, you know, because I think that's I can understand that. Because you know, some people ask me if it's a psychological

issue, like what is it about you or have you been traumatized? You know, I'm like, no, I want to die like my auntie Lulu. She came into this world alone. She died alone and she was the happiest bitch I ever knew in my life. She died at like 90 something with a smile on her face, bless her heart. But I think that it was waiting tables now

if I had to name something that just made me never want to be in a couple. That would be it. I mean, this show could be also part of what contributes to it because these are just all excessively bland people, like, determinedly bland. So, like, some of the most bland reality stars we've ever seen. But for those who have been not paying attention

to this show who don't know what it's about, the idea is that all these people, a bunch of men and a bunch of women get cordoned off and they are put in basically what's called pods and they talk to each other and they don't get to see what they don't get to see what each other look like in terms of all the men know each other, all the women know each other, but when they go on these dates one-on-one, they can't see each other face-to-face and they form a connection and the show which is hosted by Nicholas Shay who Nicholas Shay and his wife Vanessa Manillo and when they walk in to introduce themselves

to the cast Vanessa Vanessa Manillo is like hi I'm Vanessa Manillo and he goes and I'm Nicholas Shay obviously like obviously I'm Nicholas, like really? Yeah. So they keep, they keep on pushing this narrative of, we want to see, is love really blind? Can you fall in love with someone without even seeing them? You don't even know what they look like as if they're going to have some sort of like 500 pound monster in the pod. And then like you come out and by the way, people were 500 pounds or not monsters. But I'm just saying like someone who is not like the classic you know reality TV standard and as if like someone's gonna form a bond with that and it's like oh my god you were

not physically what I want like that but everyone is generally good looking there's like it's like can some generally good looking people fall in love with other generally good looking people that's what we're asking. But also I Here's my major problem with the show was that it's not fair. Okay. I get that you're in a pod which first of all the word pod makes you think of change or Evolution or like a cocoon or something that you go into and you emerge a better person, right? Yeah, that's what it makes me Okay, sure

That didn't happen. But then the other thing is that these people, they're still judging what the person is putting across. Like, they're still judging their voice. And this was what happened in Lisa and my view on the show. People listen for the people who sounded like an idiot, like they were, like Barnett wanted to date the bimbo sounding girls. And so he ended up, and then that girl Jessica,

who doesn't even talk like that, was talking like, Oh my God, I love breaking out in the polonies, I love Span. And it's like, of course all the guys are like, I wanna bang her because she sounds like a thin hooker, you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. And you know, what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And you know, it's so funny because I believe it was the first episode when she was on,

when Jessica was on her first date with Mark or just in one of her early dates. And he's like, yeah, I'm from Chicago originally. She's like, really? I'm from Chicago also. And he's like, I love the bears. Oh my God. I love the bears. Also, my mom makes Italian meat. Oh my God. I love Italian meat

I think I like my connection with Mark. You're like like I've never filmed this way my heart Yeah, we're both from Chicago We're both from Chicago. Armageddon. I'm like, do you know how many millions of people there are in Chicago? You could literally marry any one of those people, the way you people are talking, you know? And I feel like so much of what we normally get

to make fun of are the women, and just because we watch Bravo, and it is mostly women, but this show is an equal mix of idiocy, you know? And that's why I like covering the bachelor, because it's not, it's everybody's an idiot, you know? You know what I mean? And like we finally get to talk about that,

because Jessica is the glaring idiot in this show. She's the girl who's really striving hard to be the kind of girl that everyone wants to fuck, even vocally, you know? And then of course, she turns out to be kind of a jackass through the whole thing. And she turned into the kind of the villain, but the villain to me is Barnett. I think that guy is such a monster. I think Damien is the villain actually. So I actually believe it or not,

at first I thought Jessica was, you know, crazy idiot, but I've actually, I actually don't think she's an idiot. I just think that she's not in tune with her own emotions. I don't think she's, she's not honest with herself. I think it was obvious to anyone who watched right that she's not in tune with her own emotions. I don't think she's, she's not honest with herself. I think it was, it was obvious to anyone who watched, right? That she was in tomorrow, but she's also into Barnett because Barnett is, by the way, well, fuck. Wait, hold on, hold on, we're cutting out here.

Boy, okay, so, because she always goes for it. Wait, hold on, hold on, we cut out there, so go back to, go back to, Oh, you know what? Did she not put it on the, I forgot on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on I know I know we'll have a little Love on ethernet Ben's gone now he died

He's dead. I'm back. It's okay. That was at eight minutes. Sorry, everybody. Technical difficulties. So the last thing I heard was me saying that Barnett is a villain and you said no, Damien is, but Jessica's not an idiot because I think that she's not into her emotions. I don't think she not an idiot because... I think that she's not in tune with her emotions. I don't think she's honest with herself. I think that she's not necessarily an idiot, because I actually felt like a lot of her takes on things were pretty sharp, believe it or not. I can't believe I'm saying that,

but I feel like sometimes her takes on things were sharp. She just didn't have a take on herself. And she definitely is a self-sabotager. I think a bigger idiot is Giannina, and I think that Damien is a bigger asshole. I think the two of them are awful. And I cannot stand like every time it was a Damien and Giannina scene, I was like, please kill me now. Actually, no, I was like that for Kenny and I don't even remember her name because she was so Kelly, I think, because they were so boring. But I just watched this whole thing and I have to search everybody's name. So let's just oh

You're talking okay. Well first Jessica now when I say 88 let's take with Jessica. Yeah, just just to go through a couple by couple because I have to look each couple Because they're like all such generic white people mostly yes, that it's like oh, is it a David or a Peter or a Cali? Or you know, I have to like either names, but Jessica I say idiot because I'm really struggling to not say the word bitch all the time. Like she's a bitch, because that's not cool. I think she's an asshole, Jessica. I don't know that she's an idiot,

but I think she's a completely selfish asshole. I don't believe that she's 34 either. I think she's older. I think she's way older. 38 at least. Yes, and which is fine, but like stop lying. And I think she's just a waste of people's time Including mine, but especially other people and I think that she did know what she was doing

And she was just hoping that it was gonna something would happen with Barnett and I think she's just a horrible human being Like she's one of those people that's just not a good person. She's only thinking about herself. I don't like her People are really ganging up on her on the internet. I don't I don't think she's a horrible human being. I think I think though for sure, what she, I think you could say she's selfish. And I think that because she was not honest with herself, she heard a lot of people in the process. Well, she was being honest. She, I mean, if she wasn't being honest with herself in what she was saying to us. So she was saying one thing to us, but her actions and the way that whatever she was saying with

her face, she was being honest with herself. She was just not being honest with anybody else. Like it was really obvious that she liked Barnett, like everyone saw that. And whether or not you're drunk, you know, like the night they get together for this cocktail party after they're already coupled up. So she gets she gets and she's like obviously coming for a bar Not again, right right in front of his fiance, which of course I get it It's a TV show and they've been fiance for five minutes, but still Coming for him and then later she's like, well, I wasn't coming for you. I mean, what you're not in it I wasn't even coming for you what I love Mark when it's obvious

She does and she's just wasting that guy's soul I take it back you're right she was that's an asshole it's like she's embarrassing that guy on national TV and you know not that he does also like but also like Mark is an idiot let's not like say the way Mark is like the biggest idiot he's just there just like staring at or like she's a goddess she's sitting there feeding wine to her dog. He laughs wine. I'm like, how did you find out that your dog loves wine? How did that process begin and you thought yourself?

Let me just like feed some of this precious wine to my dog. And then she said, Maybe it loves PCP. It's like, like your baby does not just tell you when they have those PCP, okay? You were just giving your baby PCP. But you know what, though, she also doesn't have, Jessica does not have, she's lacking some sort of self-confidence in that when she was rejected by Barnett, she should have just said, guess this show isn't going to work out for me, because she clearly was not interested in Mark. And she went

back to Mark trying to convince herself, I think that was the thing. I guess that's why I'm don't think she's a full asshole because I think she was trying to convince herself that this was gonna work out. Because we both, you know, are both from Chicago. We both have a hot dog song. We like hot dogs. I don't think she was even trying to make it work. I think she was just trying to stay on the show.

It's like typical bachelor's shit. And maybe it's because I watched so much bachelor's project. No, I think she was trying to make on the show. It's like typical bachelor shit. You know, and maybe it's because I watched so much bachelor I think she's trying to make it work to it. To me, it looked like she, she really wanted to just be with Barnett, but because he was being the guy that she couldn't get that she He was more attractive to her, you know, and you see it all the time on the bachelor shows. Um, so I was taking it that way because with Mark, she never really So I was taking it that way because with Mark, she never really seemed to like him at all. Like she was like, okay, I'll deal with you until the end of this show. But then she was so mean about it at the end of the show that I was like, wow, she doesn't even like the guy. She didn't even like him as a friend, you know? Well, here's what I think. I do believe she was trying to convince herself, you know,

that she liked this person. This is something that happens, you know, where someone, you had a connection, it was great, and then you got distracted with it, whatever, or, you know, sometimes what happens, I feel like when you date someone, is that you have like some really great dates, and it feels really good, and then it just sort of goes away.

As I say on Love Island, I got the ache, I got the ache, and so sometimes you get the ache. And then you say to yourself, why am I getting the ache? Like, why am I getting the ache? Everything was great. This is a meat issue I can work through this. I can make it happen. Because I think that people want that fairy tale. And I think that's what she wanted.

She was like, no, no, no. I had a connection with Mark. And it would have been a great connection. But I got to try to buy a bar neck. This is a fuckboy. And that's what fuckboys do. But I'm sure I feel something with Mark. And what would happen was she was always trying

to convince herself, even though it was clear she never really liked him. And then I think at that point she'd gone too far, so then she had to really commit to it. And then it seemed like they were things would be bad and that'd be good. They did finally have sex, but I think actually the game changer was when she went to his house

and she saw his bedroom and she was sitting there in his bedroom and there was like a neon sign up there and like some shitty like full on like 20, 24, but it was like 22 year old furniture, like 18 year old, like college frat furniture. Yeah. You could just see in her eyes like I definitely saw that that to me in my head that was confirming to her which she already knew the second she saw because guess what love Is not blind. Okay. Sorry. Yeah, but people the second she saw him in real life and he's hot as hell now He does have those dumb people wide eyes like the sim or Simpson eyes It's just like he's really dumb so he keeps his eyes wide open all the time to convince you that he's not dumb It's like you like just learned about microwaves. Yeah, he's like wow

I'm doing the bare minimum. I'm really awake. Okay, so I have some kind of a brain But I think when she saw him and saw that he was short because she even said because girls Yeah, and not every girl I want to stereotype every girl But one thing you hear on these shows all the time is like, I want a guy six foot four has a full head of hair. Nobody's no, it's like the equivalent of guys being like, no fatties, no fat cheeks or whatever on Tinder. No, it happens in love Island UK all the time.

Yeah, girls are like that with height and with hair, right? So I think that she saw that he was short and was like, um, now, you know, because she said, um, I saw, you saw the disappointment in her face. Like she cannot hide anything on her face. And he was like totally excited to see her, you know, it's like a Kebler Elf's thing, a tree with a hole that he could live in, you know, he was so excited. And she was basically the tree with a hole. And she was not excited to have that little cookie making babies inside her.

She was like, no cookie. No, no, no, no, no, definitely not. And you know, the thing is that, by the way, we should also talk about the fact that she is just a vicious drunk. She is just, she is a drunk. We've all been cornered by her at a cocktail party. She's been, we have, we haven't gone out of her way too much with the purple teeth from the red wine

and the slumped over. Just sank things like, Barnet. Barnet. I just wanna say, like, I'm just surprised you, Nambur. I mean, I saw you as like a cultured guy and like, I just never thought that you and her, but like, I love that that but I just never thought I Know it I mean how would you think that he's cultured in anyway, okay?

So let's talk about that. Let's talk about I'm done with sitting on Jessica Although I will say it was kind of funny that she is such an adult, you know They kept pointing out how old she is over in a work, which is why. But she is such an adult because she came to the reunion like, well, obviously I didn't like seeing horrible things I was seeing and like, maybe I could have really been kinder. And like she knew how to answer it to get herself out of trouble. But basically the underlying message of the reunion was stopping me into this girl online because everybody's been so mean to her. Like someone posted on the Rose Pricks page the other day, this is

what coronavirus looks like. And then, wow, people were like, come on guys, stop being me to Jessica. She's been shit on and off. And we've all been there. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she's a full on disaster, a full on undermining drunken disaster. Who's not honest with herself and wasted Mark's time, but she doesn't deserve that much hate. I mean, if anything, she's the one that made the show watchable. So let's not forget that. Yeah, I think my main thing, the main reason I didn't like her for the beginning was I really don't like when people affect a stupid personality to win men.

Basically, it bothers me. It's like, what kind of man do you think you're going to get if you're purposely acting like, oh my god. Like, if you're trying to sound like that to attract a big douchebag, what do you think you're going to get a big douchebag, you know? And you know what, she actually did have one more thing. She did have an explicitly asshole moment, which is when she got really wasted at Barnets birthday party. And then afterwards, she was with Mark in bed. And he was, who was he talking about? Which girl was he talking about?

That he said that she was sick. She said that she was a close second. I forgot was it maybe, was it a Lauren maybe? I don't know, but he was mentioning one of the, they were talking about a girl, they both were like, we love her. And he goes, yeah, she's a close second to you. She goes, close second? Like, oh, and that's supposed to mean like, why is she a close second?

Like whom I do. Like, why? What about this? I think Barnett is fucking sexy. I was like, it was such a dick drunk moment. I mean, I don't know why he didn't leave her right then and there. Maybe because that guy, that, you know Because that guy has such a desperation to win. He's one of those guys who's just like, I want to win. I want to win. I got to win. I can't be dumped on national TV. I'm sure.

I'm sure. He's got that weird manic energy that he just has to win. And he would do anything it takes to make it work. He doesn't know her. All he knows is that she's pretty, which she is very pretty. And that she, you know, kind of had that like some effect or whatever that effect, I guess I should say. He knew that.

He knew that she likes Chicago. I mean, what else does he really know? He doesn't actually met her. Once he actually met her face to face and they spent time together, it's obvious that she hates his guts and her eyes. He's an idiot. He's an idiot. That's what he knows. That's the thing. I don't think it's even about like that he wants to win. I think it's that he saw something he fell in love. I think he fell in love with the idea of being in love and he was excited about it. He's has, you know, he kept on saying my mother always said that people, you

know, people come into your, like, God puts people into your life for a reason or whatever. I think he was like ascribing all sorts of importance that was not there to this he was just He was ridiculous. I think he just wanted to stay on the show till the end and not go home. I don't know I'm a much more cynical. You know, I have a much more cynical view. We don't have to No, I think I was like I'm only like oh, no, what are you gonna do? How are you gonna keep getting your Instagram followers if you don't keep this shitty relationship going? No, I think that he had, like, I think he just had hearts in his eyes

because he was young, which is why Jessica probably kept saying like, yeah, my length there isn't any difference. And it was actually getting annoying. I was like, Jessica, you're allowed to bring this up one more time and then you gotta find out that. Oh yeah, we didn't really mention that that that's all she says.

It was like, all she would talk about. And then she even tells her friends or friends like, who cares? And I'm like 30 for and he's like 24 and that is like 24. Oh my god, he's 24. He's 24. There was some part where she's like, okay, well, I'm 34 and you're 24. So that that means if we had a kid that I would be 44 and he's 14. 14.

That makes me 50 and makes you 40. How do you feel about that? Yeah, I'm like, it can't win like any of them. The kid would mean like, I would be like 47 and then you would be like 11. And what if we have a 12 year old child on a train going 60 miles per hour Yeah, and then there's another train that you're on and you're 10 years younger than me how old will I be when our trains meet? It's like Jesus. You're not molting. You know what I mean calm down like wait till you get to 44 honey, all right? Yeah, yeah, which also by the way leads more credibility

to the idea, it lends more credibility to the idea that she's not just 34, because if she was like 38, I think her clock would be ticking even more aggressively, which is I think she was trying to basically say, I want a baby as soon as we get married, and I don't want you to walk out the moment you, like, you know, because you're 24

and you're liable to do that. That's what you were saying over and over again. But you were saying it so many times that she was, I think she was also saying it so many times to annoy him so that way he would dump her, so that way she wouldn't have to dump him because she did not want it to work out and she was looking for ways to sabotage it

and he was like unsabotageable until finally, she just had to literally say, I don't accept you. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's those two crazy kids. So they ended up getting to the end and at the very end, it's kind of a bachelor type thing where you have to propose and get married. And so I guess they tell them, you both have to act like you're going to do it.

And then you can say no after the speeches, which is so cold, but it's so real on TV. So she had to come out, even though she took everyone news, she wasn't into it. She looked like she was about to jump off a bridge, you know, and then she came out and she gives the speech like, I'm in there. I'm in so kind. And I do love you. I do love you. I do. I do love you. And whatever. And then he's like, oh my God, you know, my eyes are really dry and I can't see you clearly, but I know you're beautiful. The shape of you is beautiful. Trying to take this all in right now, and I really can. I sort of actually have white angle lenses on my eyeballs. I'm really getting a lot of detail in this moment. There's flies crawling on my eyeball right now, but I can't blink it away. So, so he gives her this big, you know,

beautiful proposal. I was like, no, but I like you. And then she storms off and she's like, well, you know what? I wish I could say I'm sorry, but I'm not. Like she was just so evil at the end. I was like, look, obviously, you know, I was too, cause it was great TV, but it was also like,

why would you do that to that poor boy? Like he didn't do anything mean to you. He's been nothing but kind to you. He has been nothing but kind. And she should have just recognized that she just wasn't that into it. And she just didn't want to be, it's one of those things where you try so hard

to not be the bad guy. And then all of a sudden you want to be the worst things where you try so hard to not be the bad guy. And then all of a sudden, you wind up being the worst person of all because you try to not be the bad guy. But she definitely, well, the thing is this. So to go back to what you were saying a few minutes ago, she was hung up on Barnet. And what the, why bar, this guy, what is the deal with Barnet?

He just must have big, big energy or something that goes through the walls. He's got the same thing. He's got the same thing. He's got the same thing Jessica does for women. He does the same thing in the man version where he's like, hey, you know, what's up? And you just acts, he doesn't have an accent. But he just has, he just has this attitude in his voice.

Like, he doesn't have to make any effort. He doesn't have to say anything. Just have a deep voice sound tall and big dick, which he did. And I feel like that's the same version of Jessica's, like, that's his version of that, which is why he attracted both those kinds of girls, you know? Yeah, it's amazing that like someone who just reads

as much as a fuckboy as Barnett, how that comes through in his voice and it attracts the exact women who always fall for fuckboys. I mean, we are recapping summer house this season and we're seeing this play out with Lindsay and Carl. Now Lindsay is a crazy person, but that's Lindsay and Carl are the type of people

that are drawn to each other and then explode apart. And it's just funny how these types come together. And now you have three women who are falling over this guy, Barnette, who has no discernible personality. Like I think his most distinctive personality trait is that he has very thick hair that I'm fascinated by. But other than that, he just sort of like, he does have like, smiles with his tongue out.

He does have like a hair that's like a helmet. It's like a hat. It's like a baseball cap, but made out of hair. It's like a parka. It's like, you know, it's like, like in, like, I wanna say like an Eskimo thing, but I feel like that's culturally insensitive. You know, like those, you know, there's like Jack

that's out of the hood, like the big puffy hood. He's got like a puffy hood of hair. Yeah. What is his first name? Because he's not showing up under bar. Matthew. Matthew Barnett. Matthew Barnett.

Why isn't, why aren't they putting him on here? He's like the most popular guy on the show. You'd think that he'd be on here. I'm trying to find his, we're on a site where we can see their Instagrams and stuff like that. So I'm scrolling through to see his. Well, while you look for that, so Matthew Barnett, Barnett,

I thought he was a trainer. Oh, he's pretty much the entire series until like the second to last episode. He's an engineer from Canton, Georgia. Yeah. So basically, he, so he comes on, he's, I mean, he's hot, you know, and like for the show. His energy is hot. Yeah, he's like a hot energy.

He's like baseball and not a baseball. But he does look like a baseball guy who's like just kind of hot because he's spitting and he looks stinky and like, you know how baseball players on TV or just like, they're always like over it and they're always they have no energy. You know, they just look like surly assholes, no fence everybody. But that's it's totally the energy And that's the vocal energy he gives to shank. He. Oh, yeah, that's yeah, and he does fuck with the woman a lot He's like, I don't know. I don't know where I'm at. I don't know because he tells Jessica the reason why Jessica went in this

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You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. Let's come her show. So Amber is uniquely awful. Like she is so terrible. She spends half the show doing this open mouth gaffa. He's not gonna get away from me. Huh. I just want to stuff an apple like that thing. He's not going to get away from me. I just want to stop an apple and I rock.

Her thing was she works for the military and she is a tank engineer or something and I rock. I'm just one of the boys. That's her thing. It's such a reality. So, Trobe, imagine someone who is in a permanent state of Julea Roberts just getting a jewelry box closed on our fingers. That is what she is.

It's like she probably walks around saying big mistake huge. And they had another relationship that's like, what do you guys even see in each other? She's like, oh my god, you are so hilarious. You know what I like guys who make me laugh. And he's like, yeah, you two, like you're so fucking hilarious. Yeah. And that's it. And then they decide they're going to get married. Where did I even come from? I don't even know because honestly, the first episode I thought that they were building up more Barnett and Jessica. And then Amber comes along. They talk about tinfoil balls or something and then

It's almost like you could see her tits because she has the best tits. There's big old tits So it like what? Who talks like that? She has great tits Who are you? No meaning that she has lish and say the best tits. She just has the biggest ones. I'm just thinking in terms of Barnett So they in first I'm talking about like Barnette's mindset, right? Yeah.

If you were to look at all the boobs lined up, he'd be like, yeah, she's got the best tips, right? And I feel like he somehow detected that, you know, through that wall. Like she detected big dick energy. He detected like big boob energy. Like that's how it came through. Yeah, well, they definitely had that that kind of relationship

Do you remember when Bethany Frankle was trying to set up was it tinsley? It was it was one of the younger cast members that she was trying to set up in the haptons and she invited one of her Really hot friends and they were like how did you know that we'd like each other and she goes? Well hot people like each other. That's just it. That's all they have to be as hot. And I've always remembered that. And that's what this show is. It's like, even if they hear, like, oh, they sound hot. OK, I'll be with them because there's no chance

in hell that they're ugly. Two things I have to point out. One is Barnett came to the reunion, literally dressed like the coronavirus. His jacket has the shapes of the virus that we're seeing all over the news. Those little cute balls with arms. He's wearing that jacket. Also, he really got on the bad side of what's her face. I'm going to get back to the beginning. Probably by far the best one on this show. Was it LC, the one,

the third girl that he turned down? No, the main one who got married. Oh, diamond diamond. No, no, diamond didn't get married. No, no, but he got to get a diamond. No, Lauren, he told Lauren, you sound like you're African-American. He said, he said, oh, well, obviously you're African-American. She's like, how could you tell that? And he's like, your voice. And she's like, fuck that douchebag. Yeah.

She's like, fuck him. Right. And see how the perfect read on him and kept itbag. Yeah. She's like fuck him. Right. And she had a perfect read on him and kept it until the end. And she was not wrong. What is on me? Am I being gay? Well, I think that was a Barnet or maybe someone else who went in when he when they met with the diamond.

He's like, oh, yeah, your name sounds like a stripper name. And she's like, fuck you. Was it Barnet who said that or was it Damien or I think some some other person. I remember that happening You guys I'm so sorry. I'm in Texas and the weather's warming up and there's like spiders everywhere and there's like bugs all over Tech there's so many kinds of bugs in Texas and I just keep jumping thinking something spiting me. I don't Anyway, it's just Barnett. It's just Amber So Amber look before we move on, Amber, I'm sorry, but this relationship, yes, Barnet's a douchebag, yes, everybody, yes, but this girl, they go to his house, he's got a really

nice house and her apartment. And then they get to finally ask each other these questions. He's like, so about marriage. Like, are you, are you like ready for that? And she's like, well, I mean, I have, you know, dad, you know, I have some credit card dad. And you know, I work to live. I don't live to work. And he's like, well, what does that mean? She's like, well, you know, I like sleep on my friends couch. Okay. So you don't work and all you do is have money in part. Basically all you do is fucking party. Why is that get ready to get married? You know, why would you want to get married to that? Are you fucking crazy? Get out of there.

I hate saying this about people, but I think she's looking for a meal ticket. I mean, she literally once they were decided they decided they were getting married. She's like, yeah, I don't, I'm not even working right now. I'm just like working on the wedding. I'm like, the wedding is being arranged by Netflix. What are you talking about? Like there's nothing for you to do. She is, she is looking for someone. She wants to stay home and just, Barnett will earn that money

and she's gonna eat bonbons. You know, she, that's what she's in it for. Yeah, that was very, very, very obvious about it too, that you know. So I don't know, I don't like her. She's very, very trashy and Barnett's family hated her. D-tested her because he brought her around and she's like, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

And they were just staring at her like, he was the hysterable piece of trash on our backyard deck. We just refinished this thing, we don't need slime on it. And she's like, I'm inappropriate, that's my thing. And so she kept saying, they're like, so what do you think of Burnett? She's like, well, he thinks he could fart on me already. I'll tell you that much. He farts on me. What are you doing? Like, you're meeting his parents, dude. Come on. I did love her mom, though. Her mom went when her mom started to talk I was like that is a runny caram character She was like hey

How's it going him? Listen to me. Are you better be good to my daughter? My daughter is Mithra lot you better be good to her. I was like you're lucky your daughter has a fucking couch to sleep on tonight, ma'am I know and Barnett I was surprised to see that Barnett was somehow like a snob. I was sort of expecting to be just like whatever, but when he rolled up to her house, he's like,

well, her mom's house is in a neighborhood. I don't, I wouldn't normally go to. It's just a little, it's not really, it's sort of, it's like, it's basically a dump. It's a dump, it's a dump. Yeah. This Instagram of hers is just so her. It's so everything you think it would be.

Now, she's 26 years old, okay. It's not like this is that crazy for her age, but her Instagram is her with the straw and a margarita picture. And it says vibes all 2020 period. And then the next line has a period and then hashtag no cups no problem hashtag no fucks given hashtag get lit. That's that's just so her you know of course that's your Instagram. And there's like a ton of pictures of her on her feet of her in Barnet and they're just like big smiles like yeah we're happy and in love.

I mean, they do look like they're having a great time, but I think this is not going to last. That's what I'm telling you right now. Well, I'm looking at his Instagram too. He's like channeling my inner Johnny Bravo today, hashtag hubbah hubbah hashtag, hey, baby, hashtag Netflix, hashtag, live is blind in the his Corona jacket.

So he is 27. So they're around the same age. Okay. Oh, he's in the jacket shop trying to find his specifically terrible jacket. Okay. So we have to look and that by the way, she has a picture. They did they did a love is blind thing at city one read land toe. We were there. That's so cool.

Sorry. Sorry. So anyway, the point is this, she's trash. He's a fuckboy. They found each other and happily ever after for the next few years. So there's that. So now can we talk about, I really have had a lot on my mind about Damien and Giannina. Oh, good.

Basically, I fucking hate Damien. I think Damien is such an asshole. She's an idiot. I cannot stand the way she talks. I cannot stand her singing voice like she talked back to you. She is acting. I always thought that I'd fall in love with a friend and instead I don't want you to propose to me. I want to propose to you. So Damien, will you marry me? Like everything she says in this,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it drives me nuts. She sounds like she has memorized lines. And she puts pauses, incidences, and then throws her head back when she talks to you. It's the weirdest, she's got the weirdest effect. It's like a fourth grade play. It's like literally like listening

to an elementary school kid during their lines. And then she walks around, she like gets like really upset and starts walking around a lot for nothing. We're not always like that. She's so annoying, but I think Damian is worse because I think that she is at least Like somehow innocent or not innocent, but like she's young and naive and in an idiot

And I think Damian is actively a manipulator because every time they get into a fight He immediately puts all the blame on her. He's always like this is what you do. This is what you do I'm trying to speak and then you look the other way and you look at the wall and you're always looking at walls. And while you're looking at walls, walls aren't interesting. I'm interesting, but you look at walls and you make me feel like I'm second best wall wall. I'm like, what are you talking about? Oh, God, I was talking about the actual fun. He's one of the, it's close. I mean, it was cell phones, but he's like, oh, there you are on your cell phone again. It's like, yes, I am on my cell phone because I like to be on my cell phone.

And he's like, oh, well, that is just disrespectful. And then he like goes, he seems like very emotionally abusive. Yeah, 100%. He's so manipulative. And she always winds up saying things like, Damien, I know that I am crazy. And I appreciate that you put up with my craziness. And I have to thank you for putting up with me, being crazy to you.

And then he'll be like, listen, you have to start making changes. Oh, as you're gonna lose me, you're gonna lose me. Like, bye bye, Ginger, get outta here. Yeah, he's definitely emotionally abusive. I can't believe they're still together because I totally thought the whole time. She was like, oh, fuck this homely guy.

I'm like, I'm staying with this guy for about 10 minutes. I'm gonna get whatever followers I can off the show and get rid of him. But then she's like, we are still married because we really have worked things through. And I have realized I can be a better person with him. Like what? What are you still doing with him?

What are you two? You cannot be a better person with him. He is an asshole. He is, I think that he's someone who, again, it's almost like Mark where he fell in love with the idea of, like, this is going to be my, this is going to be my wife and this is, this is what he fell in love with. And then he does things to sort of bring her down. So in a way, she won't leave, you know, so he's constantly nagging her and constantly acting crazy. And then like, what, basically, it all culminates with that, you know, they go to, it gets up to the altar and she's like,

Damien, I love you. I love you more than I could ever love anything in the world. And I have to say, I do, I do want to be your wife, something like that. And he's like, this is the hardest thing I've ever ever have to do, but I do not. Because you have shown me time and time again, that you are not ready, and you can't do this.

One day you say you have butterflies, and another day you don't have butterflies, and I am all in, but you have proven that you're not all in. I was like, how about you just say, I don't. I'd say it's just not the right time. Instead of like going in on her in front of all her friends and family and making her feel like a piece of shit, you asshole.

Yeah, he is an asshole, but about the necking thing, I think that you're right that he does that going in on her and front of all her friends and family and making her feel like a piece of shit you asshole. Yeah, he is an asshole, but about the necking thing. I think that you're right that he does that to her to bring her down, but then she's also always pushing him in a way, but then when he does get mad and cry, she's like, that is all I need it to hear from you. Is that you care about me? Because now you are crying about it. It's like, oh my God, you two are nuts. Like you're purposely making him crazy to upset him because they're not shows either their love languages crazy and then they were fighting so bad and couldn't fit because

she told him you don't give me butterflies anymore and so he's like oh well you said I didn't give you butterflies and he's trying to figure out how to get the butterflies back and then they're almost fighting and the only way they can have fun together As if they're fighting and so they had to end up going into different rooms and talking through the walls again To like have a decent conversation just like the show. Oh my god, and then she's like Remember remember how you always say that that's the best sex of your life Do you ever hear me say that and he goes, no, that's because I don't think it's the best sex. I say it's good sex, but remember how I never said it was my favorite sex.

Remember how I'm like, shut up, shut up. And there's yelling. Now it's like when she said that I was like, shit, they're breaking up right now. This is over. And she's like, notice how I jump on you, but you don't jump on me. Did you notice that? Do you remember how you didn't jump on me? It's like, oh, and then they're like,

it's so dark and so nasty. And then they wind up like making out. I'm like, fuck you guys. Yeah, that fuck you guys, because that's that couple, you know? And that's the couple you go out to dinner with and they fight the whole time. And then one of them goes to the bathroom and you're with them and then they're like crying to you and

like trying to get you to say break up with him and then you're like, okay, well he seems abusive break up with him and then they fucking that night and then they're like, oh, well fuck you for saying I should break up and then. It's like, oh good. I don't know. And then they also had a major blowout because they were gonna go meet his parents and his parents were like, fuck this, we're not going on a reality show. To me, you're like two week long engaged fiance. No way. So then they're like sitting there in the parking garage. What did they start fighting about that they just started fighting? She's like, couldn't she even be there for me? Like, that is your family. And like, you are not sticking up for me. They had that fight and then Amber, um, Amber also had that fight with Barna. She's like, well, what's gonna happen if like,

your parents come in between us and like, they start to fight with me. Like, who's side are you gonna choose? Like your mom or me? That's like, what? Where'd that come from? That's like, my mom. But Damien's like, this is what you always do. You always put me against my family. And I would never do that to you. I would never do that to you. Remember when you met my mom and you, she lied to you. Remember when your mom never said that to me? It's like, I'm going to kill you.

Yeah. So she storms out and runs away from her wedding and slips and falls and has mud all over her dress. And then she runs to a bridge. And her mom chases her to the bridge. Yes. And she's been in Swaling and so her mom, you know, it's very like telling her, you know, her mom's like, I cannot believe he did this to you.

Oh my God. Oh, you. Well, I did you say yes to say you could say no, which I bet the other way around. You should have said no. I don't know how Damien could ever be accepted back in that family. Like that was, he, because again, it's not that he said, everyone else,

anyone who said, I don't, at the altar, including Jessica, they were very respectful. They just were like, I'm sorry, I don't, it's not gonna work out. And he was literally like, I don't, like I would be down for it, but I don't think you are because you did this. He like guilt tripped her in front of everyone. And it was such like, I don't, like, I would be down for it, but I don't think you are because you did this. And he like guilt tripped her in front of everyone.

And it was such a dick move. It was so obnoxious. The fact that she everyone backed him. And you know, by the way, I bet something that played into it with their politics. Because at one point he asked about politics. And they never, they never state what their politics were. But I'm pretty sure he's conservative and she's liberal, right?

Like, I think that's pretty obvious. Yes, yeah. And he's like, so? Like, I think that's pretty obvious. Yes. Yeah. And he's like, so you wouldn't be willing to change your politics. She's like, um, my family's been in Switzerland and I have to send them back food. Like, why would I ever? Yeah, she's like, I don't know. I'm assuming you like pro-Trump, right?

Yeah. Let's just ask him. Yeah, she's like, no, that's never gonna happen. So you can drop that right now. Okay. So we've got two more couples to get in here. Let's go with, I mean, the main, I guess the, the main successful couple is Lauren and what's his buttons? What's

this name, Brian? Cameron. Cameron. He's a scientist. He's like, he's like a bro. He's like kind of like a bro version of a scientist. It was funny when they showed him with all his friends and they're like, you're gonna get married after knowing someone for five minutes? And he's like, yeah, bro. Like it's like a bra scientist. Weird. You know what's funny is that while we're talking,

somehow the Camden impersonation caused my Siri to go off and Siri like went on and said, okay, I'm gonna turn your media volume to zero. I was like, I don't know why Siri just went off, but that is so appropriate to what Cameron would do. It's like, Siri's like, oh, we're talking about Cameron now. I'm gonna turn volume to zero. Yeah. So Lauren was my personal favorite on the show.

She wasn't very exciting, but I'm just, she's stunningly gorgeous. She seemed to have a brain, you know, like she was actually thinking it through and talking it through. And she's like, well, I don't know how this inner, how does she talk? She kind of has like this kind of like a backup talk, like kind of this, like kind of a, no, I, if she was around Cameron, she spoke up here like this a little bit. She's like, oh, we're gonna have fun. Oh, this is house is so much like you, Cameron. I think I love you. You know, but then like

when she's around her French, she's like, damn. So yeah, I'm into this guy. He's white. Yeah. She's got some kind of nasal thing to her voice that I found very soothing. And then she's with Cameron who's totally boring. And I was like, this isn't gonna work because Cameron's like sobbing, okay? Like in the pod. He's like, I can't believe I found somebody. I'm so in love with you. Thank me to Cameron. I just need our Cameron.

Like it's really nice that I can just like talk to somebody Cameron. And he's like, are you crying Cameron? Yeah. By the way, it's the first episode, like after three of their dates where Lauren goes, Cameron, I think I love you. And I was like, what? By the way, we should also mention, I forget exactly what he said,

but Damien said something so cheesy when he proposed to Giannina, he like put like a bow tie in a box or something and was like, Giannina, I'm putting a bow tie in a box because it's was like, Giannina, I'm putting a bow tie in a box because it's a part of me and I want you to have this accessory or something crazy. Do you remember what that was? I don't remember.

Yeah, I guess it was so awful. It was so cringeworthy. It was like, I'm getting a part of me. It's weird watching something like this and not taking notes because when I'm taking notes, I don't feel bored, you know, because I'm doing something. But when I'm not taking notes, I'm like, why am I watching this? You know, I don't think I would ever make it through an episode of Bachelor if

I wasn't taking notes. Yeah, I mean, this, I mean, this show is, it is slow. It is really, really, really, you got to like wait for those special moments, you know? Yeah. But, um, so they were cute. Basically, this couple is really cute. Um, and they were like a love from the first second and just pretty much stayed that way. Now they're still that way and have a YouTube show together. So, here you go. Yeah, the big concern for her was just that she's white and she's always dated black eyes and she's also very much into her blackness and black families and black, you know, like black culture. And she didn't she didn't want to be seen as a turncoat any of that

or as worried would she have to tone down her blackness. That was a big conflict, which I thought was actually a more relatable conflict, even though I'm not black. But I'm just meaning that it was grounded in something more interesting than like, when you're like 24 and I'm 34. So, and the bass was like, will her data prove, but it seems like her data eventually proved.

And Cameron seems like a nice guy. They both seem like nice and smart and professional. They seem like a good match. So I'm like. Cameron told the bad, basically. He's like, this is not my first time at the rodeo, sir, okay? Because the dad's like, well, you know, have you ever been in a room of just black people?

And he's like, yeah, my last girlfriend was black. Don't worry about it I've got this covered Um, but they she ended up, you know, she kind of made fun of herself at the reunion for bringing it up so much Um, and she's like, yeah, it's It's great like he's just a guy person. You know, they're really cute. Although There is something about him I don't trust a man who cries that quickly because I think that that's women I feel a little and also he mounts spreads like to a major degree which was just fucking rude, okay?

And it doesn't it's not to only the people who've ever ridden a subway or a bus It's just fucking gross. Put your nuts away, sir, okay? Yeah, it's like wide open like yeah I don't know if I trust close your legs to married to married men, married women, unmarried people. Just everyone. Close your legs to every legs. It's gross. It's rude. And he's also trust him, but she was definitely my favorite.

And yeah, she was my favorite, but also like I liked him, but God, every time he came on screen, it was just such a new espacie. Like, I want to show Lauren that I really, really like her. So I'm picking her to a treehouse today. I'm like, oh my God, please, could someone just like give this guy some cocaine or something? Yeah, he's super boring, but I like that for her

because he's like a boring hot supportive person and like, he seems like a great person. He seems like a great person. He seems like a great person. They seem like they have a great name as weird douchebag hang-ups, like a lot of the other guys. And she's a content creator, so she's always got like her little camera

and her, you know, her lights like we have, like her Amazon, her Amazon lights and stuff. But she's not a total dick about it. She's like actually down to earth and she doesn't seem thirsty. You know, I liked her. Yeah. I liked her and I like him too, to be honest. I also want to be actually have two couples left.

I think she's gonna cheat on him in the future, but there. No. That's my prediction. I think that he's extra on that way. I think he's way too boring for her. I think he's nice and I think she's seeing that he's the kind of person that she should be with. But God, I mean, he's just so boring.

But I don't know, their Instagram looks like they're having fun. He might be more interesting in real life. Maybe he's just so boring, but I don't know their Instagram looks like they're having fun. He might be more interesting in real life Maybe just not a good TV personality, but Yeah, I do want to talk about in their Instagram post He's in like a silver suit and one and then dancing in another crazy outfit and another. Yeah, okay, maybe it's more fun I do want to talk about um Diamond and oh here we go. What's his face? What's his name again? Carlton Carlton. I don't realize this Carlton. Yeah, I didn't realize this when we were watching the show

But people have pointed out to me that he was a real house was of Atlanta Cynthia Bailey's like assistant He was at the Bailey agency and he got into like a fight with Kenyan was like kick down the room or something like that. Did you see it? Did you see the clip? No, I haven't. I haven't. You have to watch it. It's hilarious. Okay. So this is why it's so funny because his story. He like talks like this and he's really like tries to be all cool and he's like normally the chicks I bang are like so hot bro. Like when all the guys are together. He's trying to be all like man.'s like normally the chicks I bang are like so hot bro like when all the guys are together he's trying to be all like man I'm a man but then his big real yeah but then yeah like normally I'm flashy and I like like the hottest chick with the biggest tits and like he's just gross you know he says a couple things and I'm like you're fucking gross but then

he's like but my thing is you know in the in the past, I've dated guys and, um, and women and like, you know, I just don't see sexuality. I don't see, I don't see gender and I'm fluid, right? Which is fine. Like, that's a perfectly, who cares? You know, it's 2020. Yeah. But the way he went about it with her, like, he got proposed to this girl and has been putting on this, he didn't tell her. And then, okay okay before we get to that because I before any of that happened I was like oh okay, well that's interesting. We haven't seen this on one of these shows yet like a totally fluid person So then I get sent this clip and was dying laughing because not only is he an assistant to Cynthia He's like an Atlanta queen girl like he's yeah, and he's probably also appeared on like real on like I think it was love and hip hop or maybe it was

You know either way. Yeah, it's like Yeah, it's one of Kenya's first episodes on real housewives of Atlanta And you know Kenya was coming in fighting with Porsche right in the beginning and starting shit with Cynthia at her modeling thing so She comes in with a bodyguard of course Kenya because I'm a public personality So Kenya's a monster, but this guy said something like who who are you like he starts getting into like a huge like girl Who are you even and she's like who am I who are you? He's like whatever bitch. You don't even need a bodyguard. I don't know who you are bitch

I don't even know who you are. I was like, oh, I'm a bitch now since he was like, please get out and he's like Like he is totally the most extreme Atlanta queen ever so then seeing him These years later, oh trying to pretend like oh, you know, that's that's just some crazy little part of my past and I'm fluid I was like no, you literally called Kenya more a bitch on TV, sir. Like, that's not pretend. Yeah, exactly. So his whole thing is they didn't want to talk about that he was, you know, that he was fluid,

that he's hooked up with men in the past because he didn't want to get rejected. So we already see this massive pitfall happening because in a, in a, in a situation like this, you got to be upfront about everything, right? So he doesn't tell time at all. So boy, you're supposed to not see each other and accept each other for who you are, and he lies.

So he enters into it with a lie and then sets her up to open out a very big part of who he is. Like a huge, huge, huge part. And so I was even surprised that they got engaged because I didn't see any chemistry between them. I didn't see any connection. I saw very much as like, they were like pals. I was very, very surprised.

So they get engaged. I don't think she was into it from the beginning because when they meet each other on that, like when they see each other for the first time, it's in this weird, almost like Epcot center, like this is the future of living, like an underground terrarium that we live in. So they like these doors open up

and they like go down this hallway and they hug. And then she like pulls back and looks at them like okay okay but it's like that way that's like oh gross but she doesn't want to say that's what she's saying okay you look a little bit like the banana from its peanut butter jelly time but okay okay so she's I don't think she was ever really into him but they so then what happens is after they get engaged, they go on like essentially they're honeymoon, they go to everyone goes to Mexican resort. And so on their first night, they have a, they have this, this romantic dinner.

And Carlton is now, he's now going to tell her that he's, that he's by or fluid. And he is very anxious. And so as a result he starts being like really bitchy to her and starts saying all these like obnoxious little things about her and how she looked and how he how she acts and she's like oh what the fuck so then he like they wind up basically at the pool and she's like what's going on what's on your mind and so then he he reveals that he has hooked up with guys before that he's essentially fluid. So she's like, okay, wow, there's a lot to process. And he's like crying. And he's like, it's a very, I mean, I felt like it was an honest moment, but

he's like crying. And she's sort of trying to both be there, want to be there for him. It doesn't want to be an asshole, but also was like, uh, how do I feel about this, right? So he's, she's grappling. Yeah. So he starts in with this. And then instead of being like, you know, I'm really sorry to tell you it's just I insecure. I didn't know how you take it. I'm insecure about it. I, you know, whatever, take your time, like any questions you have or whatever. Instead, he turns it around on her right cuz she's like well I'm just processing what you told me is like really oh really oh this is what I need to be judged No, that's what I need oh

Yeah, you're gonna judge me. Oh well whatever bitch walk off cuz she gets mad cuz he's yelling at her and like really Mugging her so she gets up and she's like I'm gonna talk I'll talk about this later And he's like oh whatever bitch you're that kind of bitch, huh? She's like, oh yeah, well, maybe you need to go catch a dick. Yeah. But he was being a total asshole. He was. Because you don't, it's totally unfair what he did, I think. You don't just, I agree.

That time to tell her was in the pods, sir. You're, this is what something like a new that you're like, you're on Atlanta being the queenest queen of all queens in Queen Yeah, okay, so it's not like he's just figuring it out or in the closet or whatever He's purposely trying to like manipulate somebody to stay on this TV show So we could get more fucking airtime and not go home like the other faces people that we don't even remember now It was just totally uncool and then he tries to have his moment by being like oh well She's gonna try break up with me, then I'm to go all Kenya more on her and call her bitch and stuff

on TV. Like who are you? And you're right. Ring into the pool. I mean, what a prick. It was such. I mean, the fact that he would not, he would not give this woman who he allegedly was in love with the, the, the time and the space to process. Like, how does she feel about, about this? How does she feel about the fact that he wasn't upfront and all that stuff? I think she might, maybe she would have been fine with it.

She just needed like a moment, but the fact that he was not upfront and then he didn't seem to recognize why that was bad was so obnoxious. And at the reunion, it seemed like he did learn, but I think at the end of the day, your take is right. He's thirsty, he's a reality TV queen and he just wants to be on. And by the way, I didn't mean to say queen as like a pejorative. I mean, like more like the way we are like riding our queens. And like, and like he's just like,

you know, he just he wants to be on TV. And he was afraid he wouldn't if he said it in the pods, he would not meet a girl. And he would not be on TV as much. I think that's really what it was. Yeah, I didn't like him before we knew the news. I didn't like, I had some kind of sauce spot during the news because I was like, oh, this is obviously something he's grappling with. But then the way he treated her and then everything after. And I don't believe he's sorry at all. He's just like post, I mean, this is the biggest show in the country. It's number three today on that's what Netflix says. It's number three today on Netflix says it's number three, which I mean, this show is freaking huge. So I'm sure that the people have been taking their lumps,

you know, so I'm sure that that's why he came back. But I think he's a total asshole, did not like him at all. Yeah. And then those are pretty much the main couples. So they came back for this. Well, we also, how could you forget the effervescent exciting totally captivating couple of Kelly and Kenny. Oh, God. Also known as yeah, they're

around the show too. Well, that was an interesting couple actually because they this is the only couple that really changed the my perceptions of them. when I saw her I was like oh, okay like she's kind of like An ant like an angel is who's what's the name of that character on 90210? Oh Gabriella Cotera. Yes, yes. She's kind of that vibe or like a mere winning ham Character like from I going to push back. I'm not going to give it. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. Thompson playing a Mayor winning ham role. I mean, no, she's basically Leo Thompson and back to the future, right? Except she doesn't have Biff. She's like, yeah, Leo Thompson, like a less cinematic version of Leo Thompson and back to the future. Leo Thompson had more of a sexual vibe. And I don't want to sound like I'm negging this girl and looks for anything. It's just that to me, she was just more of a nerdy kind of a person.

And then- I like Leah Thompson and back to the future was pretty sweet and nerdy girl next door, right? That's why she was so cute. It was like, oh, look. But also, I guess maybe there was a little bit of a sexual awakening that was a little bit on display there and back to the future that we're not really seeing as much.

Yeah, this girl just seemed really like, there was like some kind of insecurity about her. And I took it as like, she's like, Kathy. Yes, yes, okay, yeah, she's like a prettier Kathy, like the cartoon Kathy. And I, she was okay, but she seemed like nerdy and neurotic and like insecure and all these things. But then we find out later in the show that she's not those things at all. She's actually like considers herself like a super

hot girl who always like bangs really hot guys. And this guy's not hot enough. And I was like, whoa, that was a twist. I did not see no twist. I thought her sexual insecurity with him or her sexual unavailability at first with him was that she thought he wasn't as into her and she didn't feel very pretty or she didn't feel good enough for, like I kind of projected all this stuff onto her

and then we find out later that, no, no, that's not it at all. He's just not enough of a fuckboy for her. Yeah. My read on it was, they had this very sweet, you know, relationship. They were, they were, they just seemed like they were clicking so well. But she was sort of like sweet and fun and like didn't want to like rush things and he didn't want to rush things and they just were, they really understood. But then she was, I thought she was like very, very innocent maybe. And she just wanted to take her time. And he was being very patient.

And they had a very sweet, but boring relationship going on. But then we find out actually that in a previous relationship, basically, she was with a guy and the sex wasn't good. And so it ruined it for her. So she was basically afraid of ruining this one because she wasn't convinced the sex would be good with him. And then as it goes even further, we find out that she's telling her friends,

yeah, he's just not like really my type. And I'm just was surprising because they seem so into each other. But I thought it was just sort of stuff that we're gonna work through. And then when it came time for their wedding, he gives this lovely speech. He's just very nice and sweet and wonderful.

And then he's like, do you take this woman to be your wife? He's like, I do just very nice and sweet and wonderful. And then he's like, do you take this, what, this woman to be your wife? He's like, I do. And then with her, do you take this man to be your husband? She goes, I don't. That's my decision right now. And I really want to thank you for respecting it right now. That's just what I have to do. I love you. But that's what it's, I was like, whoa, yeah, I felt bad for him. I wasn't surprised if she did that. I was surprised at how cool she, I felt bad for you. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I wasn't surprised that she did that. I was surprised at how cold she was about it. But then once we kind of started getting her story through the,

I was like, oh, I see, because she wouldn't have sex with him. Like you said, and he's trying to be patient thinking, I guess like, I'm thinking like she's got some insecurity or something. And then it turns out that she's either into a guy emotionally and then doesn't like having sex with him because she just like some emotionally or There are total fuckboy and she has amazing sex and she doesn't I don't know she had all these things But then as it went on she kind of made it clear that she wasn't into it and he was just trying to like keep it Keep it going for whatever reason so I felt bad for him and I especially felt bad that she was like

Oh, he's just not like the hot guy I'm used to dating. I was like, God, her mom was like, because when she walked away, I actually thought her, I thought her, I don't speech was, I didn't think it was cold. I thought I was actually very mature. She was like, I don't for reasons. And like, I want to thank you for like, I hope you can appreciate them that this is a decision I had to make for myself. Compared to, considering the one we had just seen right before that was Damien, who was just like, I don't because I'm ready, but I don't think

you are one day, you're in one day, you're not, and then you said, be a bad sex, and guess what everyone? She has this swollen clip and it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, but like, but like at least, but like, at least like like she was mature. She didn't blame him even though clearly, like she could have been like,

I don't because I'm not attracted to you. I think you're an ugly person. I hate your beard. That's what Damien would have done. So I like the way that she was actually doing it. And then her mom was like, God, I love this guy. Yeah, but her mom looked kind of bitchy. Her mom was sitting there and she was doing this

with her finger. And she hady. I let her mama sitting there. She was doing this with her finger And she had a huge huge smile on her face while she's dumping this poor guy and then he gives a speech after her and the mom just like Dying laughing and so then he gives a speech and he's like, you know I just wanted to say everybody. Thank you so much for coming and I really love her and I'm sorry that it didn't work out but I can't force whatever and I hope you all have a good time, please enjoy the munchies. And look, if you wanna take something home, feel free.

I'm giving away my suit after this. If anybody wants it for poor children and the mom's like, love him. Love this guy, love him. I felt bad for him because I feel like the people who really, the people's like, love him. Love this guy, love him. I felt bad for him, because I feel like the people who really, the people shockingly, because usually on these shows,

it's the guys who were like this, but it was the girls who were making the guys. Like, she's like, he's not enough of a sex bomb for her. And then Jessica and the reunion was like, well, sorry, but like, if I had really been honest with myself when I did see him, normally I wouldn't be with a guy who looks like that or is like that

height or like if I knew that he was a personal trainer, like in the real world, I wouldn't have gone for him. And I'm like, Oh my God, like you guys are. I think there's something to be said for that. I think I can, I can imagine, you know, people, if you go for the same douchebag over and over and over again, and then you come into something like this, and you connect with someone who you're like, this is not normally my type, but my issue is that I don't normally go for these people. Like, I'm always going for the Barnaths, and like, what if I try to actually make it work

with someone who's not the fuck boy? Maybe I can make it work. And I think that was probably what she was thinking too. Like, I always have terrible patterns, and maybe I can break my pattern, which is sad because obviously it didn't work. I also want to touch on real quickly about the reunion, Nicholas J and Vanessa Manillo. Vanessa Manillo, you know, I have to say, we have given Andy Cohen so much shit very recently

about a special with the Blow Deck Arena was reprehensible, but we give him a lot of shit about what was going on your boobs, but I have to say watching Vanessa Manillo has made me really appreciate how far Andy has come in general over the past 10 years because this every question she was like, you know what I love about your story Amber about how you found a piece of cheese and parnets underwear. It really proves that love is blind. I love that. I love that story for you.

It's like, okay Vanessa, thanks for the sermon. Vanessa is an evil, evil monster of a human being. She looks, she has satanic eyes, okay? The way she talks, like her eyes are always kind of half closed like like she's giving like a dirty look. She looks like she's maybe kind of a little drunk like she's got this like pop to her head when she talks to people. She looks like an asshole.

She acts like Nick Lache is the biggest prize she could have ever wanted to see and it's like keeping the net on him as tight as possible. He's a douchebag. He's a total douchebag. And they relate everything back to themselves and it's like keeping the net on him as tight as possible. He's a douchebag, he's a total douchebag. And they relate everything back to themselves. It's like, they do. You know what, you guys love is not only blind, but Nick Lache is very popular and married to me. Nick and then they're like holding hands and rubbing each other's legs like we're so in love. And then they keep saying things like, you know what, I was really proud of you for showing that on television. Cause it's really hard when you're so in love with your wife.

I'm like, what are you two doing? This is not a key party and you're not like the heads of some fucking couples therapy. Cut it out. It was like church couples night. It was, you know, yeah, I felt like watching marriage and medicine whenever they get the, like, whenever they do their, their unlicensed group therapy. That sort of felt like with Vanessa Manillo. She actually ended the reunion with like a two minute long soliloquy about how proud she was and that love really can be blind blah blah blah, which by the way, no, it can't

be because three out of the five couples didn't work. Okay. Or maybe even four out of the six couples didn't work. Those numbers prove that love is not blind. Also, but your husband married a fucking super model. Okay. After he married Jessica Simpson. I mean, I'm assuming that's what she is, right? She's fucking gorgeous. That's for sure. But who is she? She's a model, right? Well, Vanessa Manila, she probably is model, but she, I think she started with MTV.

That's why she was mainly doing most of the talking because her experience was hosting these reunions for like road rules and stuff like that for years, which is why she was asking all the questions and then every now and then Nick would be like, I know, right? I mean, you should see her way she puts toilet paper in the role. Am I right guys? Win him. Am I right?

Nick would say it's such a waste of space and he is really bowling balled his face out. Like he looks crazy. Like too much fillers, too much boat. He just looks crazy. He looks like a just what he is like an aged fuck boy You know like a very smooth piece of salami, you know, I felt like it looks pretty good generally like you still looks Well, he's a good looking to be a year ago. Yeah, I mean, he's a good looking person He's just gone to like oh, they're like love is blind

But my husband can't move his face because he's trying so hard to hang on to his legs and I'm a model so there you go I think the producers did not like Vanessa Manillo because when they went to Mexico can't move his face because he's trying so hard to hang on to his legs. And I'm a model. So there you go. I think the producers did not like Vanessa Manillo because when they went to Mexico, and they were all at the resort, and there was that initial scene where they all had like a cocktail party and they didn't, they weren't expecting to see everyone all together. And then Vanessa Manillo came out and she was like Manillo. She came out and started talking to them. I have never seen such bad lighting on a TV host before in my life. She was literally in shadows.

Her face was darkness. And there was like a slice of light around her cheekbone. I was like, are you not going to light your hosts? What is happening here? Put a light on her face. We're crying out loud. I was like, they hate her. Yeah.

I don't think they like her either. And she doesn't come across this very likeable. But fun, you know, fun ish show. I was with you in the, the, um, thought that it's just really drags. It's very long. And I think that once I press, I press pause to go up here or something.

And I was like, why am I pressing pause? Like, what am I going to mess, you know? But I press pause and I noticed it was over an hour. And I was like, oh, okay. So it is like bachelor length kind of where it's, yeah, because there's no commercials. It's over an hour and I was like, oh, okay, so it is like bachelor length Kind of where it's yeah because there's no commercials. It's just like yeah, it's like a long oh one other thing I have to talk about before we we sign off on this This show has some of the very worst

Interstitial music transitional music. I have ever heard it all of like really lame Christian rock. It was so bad. It made me really appreciate the good work that Trixi Monaco does on Bravo because this music was like weird, sad strumming of the guitar and like a woman's voice. It's been like but you got love and then it'd be like a new scene. Something you're shit like every song was so awful. Yeah, it was it was pretty bad. Um, it was so. Overall pretty fun. I would like to see different variations. Like I would like a Lala and Randall version of this show just love is rich. You know, or love is really fat or something. Like I don't know what, but I don't know that love is blinded because I think they've definitely

found a way to cheat and they they can tell who the hottest people are. And so they need to find some way around that. And they've tried it with the circle where the circle you don't even hear the person you just see them typing. But then that's hard as well because then you're just watching people type. So that's weird. I know that is an odd show. It's like circle, text Veronica. hey, what's you up to? And then Veronica, if there is a Veronica, can I forget their names now? It's like, oh, what's you up to? Oh, she's trying to play me.

Circle, say nothing much, and you? You can't. Nothing much. It's like it goes on for like an hour like that. Like, why am I watching this? And they're just like, why? Why? Because they're doing it.

Like, I like the girl in the first episode. It's like, oh, I got him. I got him. Well, idiot. I actually was more fascinated by that show than I was. Love is blind. The only reason why I stopped watching it is because we,

that was like, we did a bunch of traveling right in the middle of that. And then when we came back, I was like, I'm just going to leave. I don't know. I don't know if I can watch any more of this. Plus that Italian guy that like, hey, he was so annoying that he was actually the main reason why I had to stop watching this show.

Yeah, buddy. He was just like screaming. Yeah, buddy. I'm never ending big brother confessional. Yeah, you know who is like that on this show is Mark. He was totally big brother confessional. Everything he said, he said, oh my god, I really like this girl. She's really great. Mark. You know who is like that on this show is Mark who is totally big brother confessional everything you said He said oh my god, I really like this girl. She's really great

My god, please take some vibing so I will say I did not love the show, but I've really enjoyed recapping it with you right now So that like anything that I enjoyed recapping with you makes me like the show more So now I'm actually excited for the next season. Well, these shows are more fun if we're actually recapping them and taking notes. Yes. And it doesn't matter if we like it or not, we're going to just get through the hour anyway, you know. So I think next time we choose one of these, we should just choose one and just say we're recapping this no matter what. And then just do this, do every episode.

Yeah. At first, I wasn't sure if this would be a show we could recap because the early scenes that episodes that took place in the pods was just like people talking and having bland conversations and I was like, how are we going to recap this? But why I can't believe I would ever doubt our ability to mock people having bland conversations. That's like what we do. What we do. And especially now with all this shit going on in the world. It's like You know, we don't know what's even gonna be shooting. They're counseling everything

So we're gonna go through not necessarily right now But there will be a time where we're gonna need a lot of shows to recap to keep the show going cuz guess what? We're still fucking working every day damn it. Yeah, so and we're lucky to thank God So we'll keep putting it out So if you guys have any shows that you Thank God, so we'll keep putting it out. So if you guys have any shows that you Hear about that are coming that sound like they're gonna be amazing or that you would like to see us do or you have any Ideas that you'd like to see us recap just let us know because we are listening. Okay. Yeah, absolutely So everyone, thank you so much for For joining us in this love is blind recap special

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