Watch What Crappens - Bonus: Our Morbid (Podcast) Fascination With Kim Richards

Episode Date: May 19, 2021

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like I wish I could just tell them it's called good mother and you're trying to teach your daughter to cry. Now you were here and I finally got to say it so. We stand corrected. Yeah we do. That case is insane. The truly that mama is a mama. That's a true mama. You guys are truly killing it. In case people in our audience don't know, your podcast morbid is like, like a few days ago I looked, it was the number four podcast in the world. Oh, dang. Amazing. Wow. So congratulations. You guys, I'll probably cut this out and I'm so sorry, but would you look at that? Do you see the... Oh my god. You're literally gonna have a cool sh** podcast. Holy sh**. I'm in the middle of a car wash, just what it looks like.

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Yeah. The dark and stormy podcast. So we were talking about, like, what should we cover together? There have been some murders in the Bravo universe, but they're mostly husbands where there was a suicide which is super depressing. No one wants to talk about that. I mean, it's not a huge mystery, but also it's just so sad and stuff. So we were like, what could still be fun?

Really anything involving Kim Richards, I would say. Absolutely. And speaking that works, yeah. Yeah. It always brings the fun. So we were, as we were thinking about, you know, various morbid crimes in the Bropa universe, we did remember that Kim Richards, one of Kim Richards'

husbands was killed in the 90s. And so we decided, let's do that, as our joint crappens and morbid venture. Let's explore that mystery, because it's actually, there's still a lot of mystery with it. There is. It's actually hard to get in for it. This is one that tested our research skills.

Seriously, I think when we were talking earlier, one of you guys were like, I think they like just like scrapped the entire internet about this. Yeah. Yeah, I said that because I started reading about it thinking, okay, you know, I'm going to just pull up some links to talk to more bid and thinking, okay, this is going to be like two seconds. It took me like two hours because you started going through it and there's some very shallow articles about it. And most of them are recent because he was he was up for parole or whatever so they had a hearing and they're like oh no he's up for parole so there was that but then when you search back further

it says who the guy was he was hired to kill this guy but it doesn't say who hired him or why and he would never say and then that's's it. That's what you find. I actually went so far as I subscribe the LA Times for this because I was like, I need to get to the bomb this. I need to get into your archives. Oh, yeah. I see a amount of things that I'm just subscribed to. It's like, I'm random newspapers around the world.

Like San Francisco, LA, like New York Times. New York Times. Paper subscription. All of them. I thought I was going to find some amazing archival, you know, articles. Like I thought it was gonna be like Microfee- I thought there was gonna be, you know,

scanned in documents from 1812 that this was gonna like all be two. Like that was what's a burial ground in El Serido. It was gonna be carved on a cave wall. You're gonna read it? Yeah, like a good one. And it was just like, no, there were other things to cover in 1991. But so they didn't write that much about it.

But it was interesting, because Ronnie, you did mention that it felt like there's one aspect that we're gonna get into that it's like has a shockingly minimal presence on the internet. And then we're talking, Ronnie, you're saying how like, you know, wealthy people just can scrub things off the internet. They just get raised. They just get. So we were talking years ago, there was a video going around on the old internet about the Richard sisters, all three of them, Kathy, Kyle and Kim, all doing this pilot video

about, I'm so sorry, the rain, I'm like gonna die. It's a, it's a pilot and it's called, it's called Beverly Hills, Bum Makeovers. I think is what it was called. And so they go around, like to homeless people and Kim Richards is, of course, the best on it because we all know Kim Richards history now and she's just like, hey, she even want to live like this and we want to be doing.

I mean, don't you want to get a job? It's like him, don't you? Oh my God. Don't you? She's just lost. She, wow. So we were talking about that and someone said what's the link and so I went to find the link and it has been scrubbed. I mean it's nowhere. Nobody has this. I found

someone on Reddit talking about it. And so that's that was like my proof that it was real, that it was something that that happened. But yeah, I think it was in a fever dream. Yeah, I think Kathy Hilton was like, uh-uh, scrub it. I'm rich, okay? I'm rich. I'm rich in the LA times. I'm rich. I'm rich. And let me tell you something.

As I was researching this, you know, when you research something that involves Kim Richards, it's never just Kim Richards. One thing that is really fascinating with the Richards family and their sort of their tree is how they have tentacles and all these different families in LA. So one way that it goes into that we will probably discuss is the Davis family, which is their oil barons like Marvin Davis is the as the patriarch of this family oil barons and most people probably know the Davis is from Brandon Davis who was really big in the ought not by say big in the ought I mean like he was running with like Paris and Nikki Hilton and he was always in all the

tabloids so I for some reason I it's just I just went down this Davis rabbit hole and I was like oh let me look at see what Brandon Davis is up to or let me look at his Wikipedia Brandon Davis does not have a Wikipedia page like Brandon Davis so weird like literally I Could like look at a rock outside and it has a Wikipedia page the Brandon Davis this That is some which people scrubbing right there. That's yeah, that's intentional. Oh, yeah You've made it when you're Wikipedia page is taken down. Okay, so I'll go through this basic the basic information so everybody knows what we're talking about. So Kim Richards has been married a bunch of times, okay? And one thing that they brought up on the show is that she was

she was actually on the phone with one of her husbands when he got shot execution style and they talked about it a little bit on the show she still hasn't recovered and I'm gonna use the inquisitive for this and it's the inquisitive because there's no easy so the inquisitive fancy yeah yeah quizzittal yeah or she. Quasadol. So John Colette's death. Also I found out that he changed his name from Colette, co-LLETT-E, like Colette from Lymnit Rob.

Or Tony Colette. Or Tony Colette, yeah. And he took off the E. So this, oh yeah, he did. Oh yeah, he did. I didn't know that was intentional. I didn't know you could like intentional. I don't know you can even do that. I read it somewhere and I was like wow I'm glad they included that

information and not anything about who killed him. It's like wow. Also when all this way to find out about the missing e but not the missing higher. Also what prompted that was was there some really great. That's what I want. Yeah, like why? Lovely and special. Like he had to like drop it to be a little more hard hitting in the world of finance. Yeah, well, the only person that works the same way. And say it again. That was the same.

It's still pronounced the same way. So what's that right? What did you achieve with that? He wanted it to be call it call it. Call it. He wants all his letters to serve the purpose you know or you're going for a better numerology you know maybe he was a believer I don't know they go the only person he gave it is collateral to someone oh he owed it to someone that's

why he sold it to somebody needed to buy a vowel he sold the vowel you should have given one of the elves's too. That's probably why you got in trouble. I don't think you have to buy a vowel. Yeah, you don't have to buy an L. You only have to buy a vowel. Hello. Oh, have you literally seen your origin? Have you literally not seen America's game? what's wrong with you? Well, the only person who would really be interviewed for any of this was his mother. And so I think that that's why we know that. Because that's such a mom thing to do.

It's like, your son is just been murdered. I'm interviewing you about this. And no one else will talk about it. What say you? She's like, you know, he dropped the e. What's the e? It was a fake to do in our family when he dropped that. I told him, don't drop the e. You don't use of fake to do in our family when he dropped that?

I told him, don't drop the E. You don't know what path that's gonna take you down and look what happened, John. Look what happened. He chose the path less traveled with things. That's when things went downhill. Well, maybe, maybe inquisitors should learn something from this, you know, they dropped their E too.

Yeah, you see, we're full circle. We're a full circle back to missing E's. Yeah, you see we're full circle. Look at that. We're a full circle back to missing ease. So this is from the end-crusher. So this is Jan, the mother who I mentioned. Jan opened up about the relationship Richard's head with her fiance, John Collette, whom she met at an AA meeting over 25 years ago.

Rough place to meet. That ago, rough place to meet. That is a rough place to meet. Just because one of you is always, there's always a danger of one of you. You could either be there supportive for each other. I know from my experience at Weight Watchers, which I know is not the same, but those motherfuckers would cheat together, okay?

It was always like, I would always call the guy from Weight Watchers to go cheat with me. That's me. Anyway. You want to get burgers after this meeting? I'll be calling you. Yeah. So, according to Jan, he and Richard's met after he recognized her and professed he had

been in love with her since he was 10 years old, which is, I loved that part of this. Which is weird. And it goes to something else you were talking about the other day. Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes, right? Oh, where she met Katie Holmes. I forget what mystery you were talking about. But it's weird that this all comes together like that. Anyway, after a brief chat, John Cawley,

a commodity salesman, asked Richard Richard to dinner and she agreed quickly they fell in love and a while later he proposed. At the time he had been sober for eight years and was aware of his new fiancé struggles as was his mother. Still, he had strong feelings and shows to continue their relationship. Adolf John was Kim's connection to sobriety. He was tough at himself and with people he sponsored. You know, you don't have control over what people do, but their relationship was strong.

Okay, so it seemed good. He had just opened a brokerage firm and they got engaged and then he was killed. It destroyed and heard a lot of us. So that's pretty much all we can find, right? Well, that's the basics of the situation. So why don't we talk a little bit about who these people are from what we can tell, and then we can talk about the players of the crime, and then I guess what's going on here, right? So, Kim Richards, for those of you who are maybe new to this podcast or don't really know that much about Kim Richards, I mean, she's very tangential to the actual crime.

But she's our way. It's so important. So important. So exactly the same time. But she comes from a very interesting and sort of CD background, actually, when you really look at the family history of the Richards, Richards sisters, because so the grand matriarch of that line

of the family is Big Kathy. Kathy. Oh, man, she is crazy. Big Kathy, yeah. Big Kathy, whose full name is Kathleen Duggan, or Duggan. Kathleen Duggan or Duggan. Kathleen Duggan, Avonzino, Richard, is Ketayn Fenton. I mean, that's pretty bad.

I wanted to know why she just didn't drop all the ex-husband's names. Why did she collect them? I need to know. It's like a resume, you know, because that was her big thing was like hooking a rich man and back in the day they didn't have a LinkedIn, you know? You know, you're right. You have to marry around your CV You see the downside when you drop just a letter. We see what could happen So she's smart. She's like we're gonna keep all the letters that I'm collecting

Of course, there you go As many letters as possible. We don't want any of that. Yeah. I'm just signing up. I'm just signing up. No Richards, Ketane, Fenton. Known as Big Kathy. What's that?

I hope she introduced herself. As I would introduce myself as that every time. Oh no, she had to introduce herself as Big Kathy. Don't, I would not drop one of those things. If people called me Big Kathy, or like Big Ash doesn't I just went to it But big Kathy I'd introduce myself as that. Yeah, I would call myself big band, but there's actually Okay, so that's big Kathy she was married at least four times, but is that wait let me Kathy's last names one two three four five so I guess she also kept her

maiden name in there right probably yeah of course the career yeah and so a lot of the information that I I pulled about big Kathy came from this book House of Hilton by Jerry Oppenheimer. And he went and interviewed a whole bunch of people. That book came out about what, 10 years ago or so, maybe 12. But it was more, I think it was more focused on like parasilton because she was the one that everyone cared about at the time. But it definitely, you know, it focused,

we got some Kim in there. So Kathy had three kids. She had Kathy Hilton, who we know know is Kathy, Kathy Hilton, Kim and Kyle, right? And Kathy Hilton was with a different dad. Kathy, Kathy Hilton, I think, was from Evans, you know, the Evans, you know, dude, right? Oh, yeah. I think you're right. Yeah. Right. And, um, I did, but Kyle and Kim are born from Mr. Richards, whatever, whatever his name was. Mr. Richards, I'm not sure.

I think it's the Richards, Ken Richards, Ken Richards. And again, this doesn't really have much to do with the crime, but it's just, but it still is just like fun to like give the backstory on Kim, which is that. You have to. For the Richards. It honestly was kind of a crime in and of itself. Yeah. It honestly was kind of a crime in and of itself. Yeah.

It is. It's interesting to see the men that Kim was drawn to over the course of her life. You know, this sort of. Exactly. Guys that were sort of up to no good, in a sense, or just with interesting, I don't know, there's like a lot of question marks

about her choices. But Kathy apparently, big Kathy apparently went after Ken Richards while he was still married, which was a point of contention. And then allegedly, allegedly she actually drugged Ken's wife at a bar and followed her to her car and then slammed her ankle with a guard door. Wow. I read the big Kathy coming in hot right off the bat. Yeah, we got a really big space.

Like you still want her, she's limping. She's limping for her. She's damaged now. She's got a big old bruise for you. And then that woman, that woman's daughter alleges that her name is Diane, the daughter. That's Ken's daughter. Oh, I know this one.

Diane alleges that Kathy served her a cheeseburger with a screw baked into the mouth. You know what though? Like I believe it. Like I don't put anything past Kathy. She's responsible for so much more than we even know. You don't have eyebrows like that and not put screws and burgers, you know? No, accurate. Don't do the Joan Crawford and then just like leave the burgers unattended with hardware. No, absolutely not.

Well, first of all, I'm getting information because I did not read this book because I don't like long things, okay? But I got my information about it from Reddit, the old standby Reddit, hi Reddit, and it was compiled by Emily Medriga on Thought Catalog. So just wanted to give credit because I will be ceiling for new, ma'am, and thank you very much for putting this up there. I love that catalog. Yeah.

Oh, so they called her Big Kathy. From an early age, Big Kathy instructed her daughters and later grandchildren to adhere to her life philosophy of mirroring rich and having lots of babies with rich men. They've all pretty much followed this advice. At one point, she boasted, my daughters are married to men who have a total net worth of 13 billion. I think I read the same article as you.

I'm left with a whole lot for you. Yeah, it means you I wrote it down. I said, Mary Rich and have lots of kids. And then also apparently the rumor was that Big Cathy would go to the Beverly Hills Hotel and just sort of like sit there and wait to be, not recognized, but sort of catch the attention of a wealthy gentleman.

I love all of it. That was like the rumor, you know. Yeah, she had her own booth. I think Kim got like kicked out of it or something at once, actually. Yeah, Kim got arrested there. Yeah, she, Kim got arrested there. Cause you know, don't hide from the law at the booth

you go to for like, that dose. I wonder where the whole family went to. And I can't have bold move though. This is kind of her pathology. She just makes bold moves. It makes you go. Uh-huh.

Lives in the moment. I guess the Richards girl go to the family booth. That's amazing. And then she ran into the bathroom and they had to like take her. She was locked into one of those stalls or something and they had to like take her out of the stall.

Now, does someone deserve that for stealing from a target? I mean, I think since then, they've changed those laws in LA to where that's not as bad of a thing because just everybody was shoplifting, you know. People would just go into a box and be like, by, like, just take their shit right out of there.

And so I think they change the law. I love the little richest people do that. Yeah, you pull a one-ona. Yeah, well, yeah, one-on-a. Bad criminals, bad criminals, all of them back. So from the book, big, big Kathy told Ken she wanted, oh, oh, God, so then we get, then we start getting a lot darker, okay.

So from the book, big Kathy told Ken that she wanted Kathy to know all about sex and how to perform sex literally the best way possible, assert Sylvia Richards. So she asked a young man to teach her in his van. Oh, I did not know that. Yeah, that's so my God. Because we talk about serial killers on like a regular basis and that is some of the darkest shit I have ever heard. That's just like, I don't have a word for that.

Beyond. That is beyond. That's called gay iconography right there. That's what we are like. Yes. No, that is full on crazy. But it's just like the monstrosity of it is what gets you know, that's gay is being like, wow, let's make a movie about it. What did I call it? But actually, so Kathy also, she forced her husband, her last husband, Bob, I guess that's Bob Ventan, to sell his house and put

all his money into this Palm Springs house. And then I think the way that when she died, I think that he was kicked out of the house or he was kicked the rights of it. He lost, it was basically her house. And this is the famous house that the kids then fought over that caused actually a massive rift amongst the sisters and the husbands and laws, et cetera, amongst many other things. And this is what she did. Let me just add here that she did this in her will, I think, because it says she had

Bob sell his home and put the 250,000 profits into renovations for her own home, right, which is what you said. When Kathy died, she gave Bob one year to give out of the house. He helped pay for it as she left it to her daughters. So that, I mean, another, I gotta give it to her. Another bold move. I mean, you show up at the will reading. Another bold move on the board.

Yeah, you show up at a will meeting for your wife. And she tells me it's like a Wait, did we miss something a little bit iconic as well though like I'm not gonna lie about it Runaway in a good way, but iconic exactly Very soap opera, you know like her name is very Dynasty with all the really stuff very very dynastie with all the other stuff. Oh really? Very.

So this is the, this is the home that people think Kyle stole from her sisters. You can tour the inside of the home here. I will do that. Ben continues. Please do. I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that.

So Kim Richards is born in all this craziness. And she is a, she's a child star. She, her first gig was in a carpet commercial, which is, you know, that, and by the way, I have to give credit because Danny Peligrino and I, like a few years ago, we were going to do like a deep dive into this and we sort of never did. So like, we kind of did some of this research together. So I have to give a hat to Danny Pellegrino sort of we love Danny Pellegrino part of this And so so basically so she's starring in she stars in something called nanny and the professor

Which I would love to see that I love I'm sold by the name It sounds delightful. You know Kathy was like already trying to marry her off at that point. Oh, yeah She's like she's, really impressed the professor. Yeah, she's like, how old's the professor? It's like Natalie Wood with Frank Sinatra. Is he 10 year old? What kind of professor? What?

He's got a pension. All right. You better do a good job. This is discipline. She also started a sitcom called Hello Larry. So I also, I would love to know what Hello Larry is about. My dad's name is Larry. So I also I would love to know what Hello Larry's about my dad's name is Larry. But she's more famously in Escape to Witch Mountain and like a bunch of Disney movies in the 70s. Yeah, wasn't you known as like

the Disney girl at one point? Yeah, yeah, because Disney had all those sort of all those movies in the 70s that I, know like I remember growing up and you go to the video store and there are just all these weird live-action movies and you're like I didn't know that it made live-action movies like the North the North Avenue Regulars or irregulars, you know things like that or like the black hole or tron, you know, so Remember all those movies? So, she was all in that. They're so young. No, they don't remember. Look at her. I remember. I'm a slight old. I'm the fetus of the group. So I'm like, wow. You're like, oh, remember the Philadelphia story with Catherine Hepburn. Oh man. I remember you guys are looking up Warren Beatty who you called

one Beatty. She's like, I never gonna look up to see how hot he was. I knew Beatty. I knew who he was. I just didn't know how to say his name. I think what you said it to, I was like, he was so hot. Why don't you know who he is? Yeah. I was like, because I was like zero when he was a thing. But he's a lot. He's a lot of people. He's a lot of people. He's a lot of people. Oh shit. He's a lot of respect.

He's a lot of respect. I just do you know. And his words are, and I'm betting. Yeah, also, you know, also hot, just to look up later, when you have free time, Ned Beatty. I mean, that guy's. Ned Beatty. That guy's not on the, that guy's not a bum, though. We don't know how they're related, but also hot.

We love it, Dills. You should look up his most famous scene in movie history and see how you like it. It's very hot. Oh, I know Ned Bady. It's like, wait a second. Is this the guy? Yeah, you don't want to look that up.

Okay. I will. So, anyway, so Kim, so now in the 80s is when she has her string of romances. So she first is married to Monty Brinson. As a prince, you have Monty Brinson, who we saw on Beverly Hills, who sadly passed away of cancer and they so she was married to him but then she had a in a fairer with John Davis I believe. Greg Davis. And she had a very great Davis but she had a fairer with John Davis. Yeah. Go, can you go. A bold move. And Kathy made her like big Kathy made her give whoops.

That's okay. You're Amazon. That's got that's how Richard's being like, are you guys talking about my mom? She's like, excuse me. I'm getting we just moved. So we're getting all these weird deliveries and they keep just telling me they're like,

you have a delivery. But big Kathy made her give back the original engagement ring to Monty. Because she was like, that's not good enough. Go and tell him to get a bigger one. And she did. And you know who else did that? Natalie Woods mother. Oh my god. There's a lot of parallels. They're really are. I can't believe it.

Mom and her mother is run just in parallel to each other. Yeah. I can't believe there be. I can't believe there be more than one in Hollywood be a place somewhere. I can't believe there'd be more than one in Hollywood. It's shocking. I can't believe it. Crazy. So, um, yeah, so she hasn't a fair with John Davis, um, and then that leads to the end of her relationship with Monty.

But then she actually winds up marrying Greg Davis, who is the brother of John Davis. And these Davis is these are the ones who are the children of Marvin Davis, who is the brother of John Davis. And these Davis's, these are the ones who are the children of Marvin Davis, Marvin, and I forget Marvin's wife. It's like Marion or something like that. And they are big time oil money people. I think they even own 20th century fox at some point. Oh damn. Or they're very heavily involved. John

Davis to this day is actually a big time producer. Like he produced a lot of like Eddie Murphy movies and things like that. Maybe Beverly Hills cop I don't remember. But it's like Kim is all up in this and apparently when she gets married to Greg Davis, Marvin and his wife do not approve of Kim Richards. It was so. But didn't they throw them a very lavish wedding? And I think they bought them a house at one point. They probably did, and then at the wedding, they met Big Cathy and they're like, uh-oh.

Why is there a screw in my wedding key? I was just going to say, they were like this runs deep. Why is there a hammer in my or derp's? We're not going to be able to get this out of her. But it's like in a sink, because she doesn't want to kill them. Yeah, it's like a level, you know like Why is there a level in my suit? You can't like control it's all she must be hard where I read but she doesn't want it She's like I have to do this but I don't want it to hurt so I'm gonna put in a level a

Frequent shopper at lose But it's one of those situations where you're embarrassed to say anything so you just like remove the level and you're like The party but why is there blue tape in my tuna fish sandwich? It's crazy, but you know, it's nice it peels off easily, so it's sort of a nice tape. Thank you I guess it leaves a nice clean line on the bowl, so that's good Stupid okay, so it says here Greg's father Marvin spoiled his children and wrote them into real estate deals where they didn't actually do anything And when they would get money like this Greg would do things like give Kim a check for a million dollars and tell her to do whatever she wanted now

Does anybody feel like they have the laziest parents in the world after they read? Right Like just parent things Yeah, seriously they come on Like what would be in to your deal dad? Yeah, something So Greg Davis now runs like a petroleum. He runs, I think the family business.

It's some petroleum thing. And Kim actually had two kids with Greg. She had Whitney and Chad. And so those kids are actually errors to big, big oil money, which is kind of crazy. Oh, damn. I don't know how much that goes back to Kim, but you know, she set her kids upright

I guess, you know, yeah, she did for sure Kathy Hilton also tried to set him up with Donald Trump and he was so glad you said it And invite her to New York and pay for her to come and hang out with him And then now this was funny because this is put in between Greg who she was still with and Kim's third husband, John Collette or John Collette. So that's really funny that Kathy is like, wow, you just bagged Greg,

I'm gonna hook you up with Donald Trump. Like give the best of the names. Yeah, you know? Seriously, you gotta move up that ladder fast. They're like, no, you need the money, you need to have more last names than mom, let's go. He has a fans in a lot of the real housewives franchises. It's the weirdest thing. I think that's what I don't like about it.

A lot of other things. I don't like that Donald Trump. I don't like that he's involved in a real house life. Just get on one thing. Let's just stick to Sonia Morgan. Yeah, it happens a lot and then Bethany's Bethany's boyfriend died in Trump tower or whatever in Trump tower Yeah, yeah, I don't realize that that's where it happened. Oh, wow It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap and commercial Celebrity beef you never know if you're just gonna end up on TMZ or trending on Twitter or in court.

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It snowballed into a full-blown alleged feud. But it doesn't seem like fans are letting up any time soon, despite both Selina and the Bea's making public statements denying any bad blood. How much of this is teen jealousy and lovers quarreling, and how much of it is a carefully crafted narrative designed to sell albums? Follow this and tell wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon music or wonder yeah. So then I think that Marvin and his wife, I'm sorry, I can't remember her name. Um, but I think that they've heard

about our names. Yeah, well, I think they might be great to basically be like, you have to basically like either get rid of Kim or lose all your inheritance and money or whatever. So that was the end of Kim and Greg. And he didn't choose love. Sad. Yeah. It was not a movie. He did not.

Not at all. Yeah, he stuck with the money. So then that's when Ed Summer along this way, Kim has now entered AA. And then that's where she meets at AA, John Colette. And John Colette, I had a hard time finding a lot of background on him, but I do know that he's a former stereo salesman,

which reminded me, I don't know if you ladies are too young for this, but it reminded me of Judge Reinhold in Ruthless People. He also was a stereo salesman and was, you and was maybe kind of like a small time crook or wanna be a small time crook. So it seems like that's just what you get into. Yeah, I think that's a gateway. I think that's a gateway.

Yeah, it's a gateway. There you go, stereos, who knew? Everybody knows. Get way to big crime, stereos. It's true. Watch out. Cause that's one of those things that, oh sorry, go ahead. Get way to big crime stereosale It's true That oh No, it's just one of those things that you're like a stereosale's man. Okay, I know what that is

But then you're like no, I don't really know what that is like it's it's big enough that you're like Yeah, no, I'm an old so I do remember a stereosale's man because those were a big deal like dads were like, oh, hey, hey bro You want to come over and check out my new stair who yeah, and then you go and it's like these huge Systems that would take up the whole wall with the speakers and other speakers. Oh, yeah, now they're just like iPods You know even the iPods aren't around anymore. Are they now? They're just like on your phone or whatever I know now it's just like on your phone or whatever? I know. Now it's just floating in the air. You live on stereo. Yeah, me too. I mean, you literally only have to watch ruthless people to know what that stereo culture was of the 80s. It would there were stores dedicated to it. And they would have those those

deras that were like, would pound you open up and they'd just be speakers. And you'd be like, whoa. And it was like the coolest thing to have a big ass. And I used to sit there every week, like the Caldor circular would come through, or sometimes Kmart or whatever, and they would show what stereos were on sale. And all I wanted as a kid was a stereo. I want the stereo so badly,

and then when I turned 13, my parents got me not only a stereo, but the boys' to men men cassette and I remember sitting there at that morning. Amazing. This is the best part they have ever had playing. That's awesome. It's so hard to say goodbye to yesterday on my stereo in a tape. It was great. And now here you are. I'm more cement. And now I'm so hard to say goodbye to yesterday. You're like, If you mind, So go buy your stereo. You're gonna be like, Here you are,

You're gonna talk to your about your stereo. So, So John, So John, All the blue lights on it. What's that? But my stereo, I have to tell my stereo story now.

Oh, sorry, I was trying to. Yeah, I was trying to. You had a cool stereo story. No, You remember mine. Yeah. It was like, One of those really cool ones with the blue, like, blinking lights. And sometimes I'd go to, like, the music.

Yeah, and then my first piece of music they got me for it was, we're messing. Is that your UPS, man? I was like, I was like, oh, I thought it was that. I thought it was the winner. I thought it was the winner. No, it goes to treasure. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, The worst was when. The worst was when, sorry, we'll get back to murder a moment, but not a skim.

No, I'm kidding. This is very easy. The worst is when you need to go, you wanna go to a new CD and you're like, advance and you over advance and so the CD goes too far and then you got to go to a different place. A just, then you have to all the way back. You're like, oh my God, the CD carries out.

For real. By the time you got there, you're just not in the mood anymore for that song. You're like, oh my god, I see carousel. For real. By the time you get there, you're just not in the mood anymore for that song. I don't like that song. Forget it. And now in 2021, you're just like, stop playing Meck and Trainor. I did not. I don't like that. I think I'm like, Alexa.

I'm just coming Alexa. I'm like, this is like, whoops, put on Meck and Trainor again. Okay, so now we turn, right? Now we're gonna turn a little bit guys, because this is pretty much all the, we're gonna get stuck between Amy Grant and Hughie Lewis and the news right now guys. Both of you is ahead.

This is pretty amazing. This is an LA Times article. And here's what it says, a Pasadena computer technician was sentenced to 30 years to life in state prison Monday for being the trigger man. And what authorities called the contract killing of an Agora Hill securities broker, Marva de Carlo Johnson 31 pleaded guilty three months ago to first degree murder in the sling of John Colette outside North

Ridge, Northridge, Delekates, in witnesses to the killing said Johnson spoke to Colette for about 15 minutes before placing a headlock around the victim and pumping three bullets into the back of his head. The plea bargain agreement saw prosecutors dropped special allegations which could have sent Johnson to the gas chamber. The deputy district attorney said the killing was a paid hit, but outside court he refused to speculate on who might have hired Johnson and Johnson refused to Discuss the details of the case with probation because it's confidential Yeah, you'dable people probably. So basically, yeah, when this crime happens,

it's reported in the LA Times that Marva, De Carlo, Johnson, shoots this guy, shoots John Collette, and then drives away and a Honda Accord. And there's someone else at the wheel. And furthermore, yeah, there's someone else at the wheel. And furthermore, yeah, there's someone else at the wheel. And furthermore, the way this all starts to fall apart is that, so Marva is like a software guy, and he doesn't have any criminal record,

he doesn't even have a ticket. And so bizarre. Yeah, he's like, he's really on the straight narrow until he like murders someone execution solid from a Brent Stellick But he fell off a little Well, how do you even just decide to do that? You're like, yeah, I've never got a speeding ticket But I'll kill that guy sure no problem. You're good. Well, you know what?

They're in line the mystery because he has there's a guy named Michael had out who is his He's an investment advisor and he's like the he's like Marva's business mentor. And basically, this guy, Michael Hatau, testifies that on the day of the shooting, Marva's like, oh, by the way, I just got $30,000. So he tested, he told Michael that he got a $30,000 payment. And then on top of that, when Marvel was arrested later on, when the cops found him, he told had a,

oh, by the way, there's like a package in my office, could you get rid of that? And then of course, Michael turned it over to the police and it was a gun wrapped in plastic. Oh, geez. I mean, Wow, this is so messy. Yeah. Very messy. They did not hire the brightest guy, right? Okay, so now we're really

going to turn. I said that already, but I got lost in my page. Okay. So now we're really going to turn. So in the same article, it says the firmware collette worked Parker Bryant Inc. of Los Angeles was shut down in the spring of 1991 for allegedly defrauding thousands of investors in a telemarketing scheme. So people were thinking, oh, okay, so one of these older people who he defrauded probably had him killed. They got so mad that they had him killed.

So then I decided, well, all Google Parker Bryant and see who works there. And I found it was owned by Dave Mite and Dave Bryant. So, a Google Dave Mite and Dave Bryant. Okay, that's where this gets really good, okay? Oh, this is where you get comfy. The treasure truck. I'm excited. Yeah, this is where I found a treasure truck.

Now, before I start, do not sue me, I'm not accusing anybody except very rich people of murder. Okay. Exactly. So, surely they'll be fine with this. No, I mean, I don't know. I'm just, I'm not accusing anybody except very rich people of murder. Okay. Exactly. So, surely they'll be fine with this. No, I mean, I don't know. I'm just, I'm just reading the evidence. I'm not accusing anything.

Okay, so there's this random YouTube video that was put up and had a few views, like literally 18 views or something like that, like no one has seen it. And so I'm watching this and it's an old TV show called Front Page. And it looks like a pilot or something, because I don't remember a show called Front Page, do you mean? I don't remember. The old Access Hollywood.

Yeah, it's kind of an Access Hollywood thing. And I think that Ron Reagan Jr. is on it, because they're showing the people, and it's like, so and so, so and so, Reagan. And I think it's Ron Reagan Jr. Islamic because they're showing the people and it's like so and so, so and so Reagan. And I think it's Ron Reagan Jr. Probably. Interesting.

It is. He wasn't murdered, so I didn't really look that up. Were there any commercials for stereos during the broadcast? We're beyond your lockmins by then. So there was oil investment. So these Dave and Dave were these Hollywood douchebags. You just went around scamming everybody, right? They had these oil investments that they would sell to old people that were all fake.

Over 8,000 elderly people were ripped off. And meanwhile, Dave and Dave partied on from Vegas to Malibu. Because it was this lady doing it. I know. The story and it was like very 80s lighting like she would sit there And they would be like look at your desk, but there's only gonna be a sliver of light coming right They're like also light up a cigarette. Oh, well look cool It's a background with laser shooting everywhere behind her

Like law office. There's a laser behind you So their office offices were rated and Robert Evans was called to the stand now Robert Evans is a very very famous Movie producer very very huge Hermons et cetera. He used to run Hermon, I believe right. Oh, wow. Yeah, so this Okay, so I loved that response I like wait a second I'm not right that way I said green Fox we got Paramount Studios could this just been a turf war amongst the studios I'm looking to win us to see are we solving this right now? I know are you guys getting scared because we're gonna get murdered?

First thing this wide. This is studio scandal. Okay, so Robert Evans fell from grace because he was convicted of possessing cocaine, which is kind of hilarious for the time. It's like, oh, now we're all mad. Yeah, I guess in the 90s, that was like the big war on drugs, right? No, that's how you get on to Vanderpump rules. I mean pasta. It's not about pasta.

Now it's like lunch, but back then it was very, very bad. So his cocaine lover dealer even went to prison and then they showed the cocaine lover, the cocaine dealer level and she's like, crossed eyes. I was like, I'm shocked. I'm shocked. So crazy. So Dave and Dave, I'm shocked. I'm shocked. So crazy. So Dave and Dave, I guess he knew them from somewhere. And this guy was on hard time.

So Dave and Dave asked him, Robert Evans, to make a promotional video for Axium Entertainment, which was their Doe scam company. Now, this one didn't promise people oil. It promised them, it promised people pieces of movie deals so you guys would be funding the movie but then you're gonna get proceeds from these movies and they're gonna be in the millions I mean one of the ladies named Linda Batook she's like you would bother with crazy things that they did and she was

saying you know I mean terminator made more money than they say less money than they're promising these people we're gonna make oh you know, I mean, terminator made more money than they say, less money than they're promising these people we're gonna make. Oh, I love wind of the top. You know what's funny is that there currently is a giant Hollywood fraud case a Ponzi scheme that just got taken down, like that was just written up like a week ago.

So it's funny that. No way. Yeah, that's so timely. Yes, it's a very timely revelation, Ronnie. Look at us. I know, look at that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I big fish over a paramount. She was like an assistant, like maybe a casting assistant. And she was just getting the coffee. Yeah, she's the one who's talking in the interview, though, and then there's a, um, she's so in a doubt river. Linda, like, Linda, Linda, Linda, Linda, it's all about the truck. It works so well. I just would took you. But took.

So Linda's talking and then there's a guy who's in the good old 80s, early 90s secret, the secret witness where it's a voice disguiser and you only see him in the back. Oh yes. You know in a bad plastic way. I love it. Yes. I love it. He's saying it was so obviously a scam. So here's what happened. The Dave started running their operations for this Axiom entertainment out of Paramount. So Robert Evans hooked these guys up at Paramount, meaning he's probably like, oh, you've got to get scam going. Let's do it. Come on over. Let's go over this. I'm into it. Yeah. So

then Bill McDonald, he's another very famous producer who was married to Sharon Stone. I believe that's Bill McDonald, right? Was he the one who was written, bitten by the Komodo dragon? Or is that someone, was that a different husband by permission? I don't know, Google it. I don't know that story. That'll be another episode. That's another episode.

Yes. By the way, I believe that Sharon Stone was struck by lightning as long as we're talking about thunderstorms. Oh wow guys Everything we Are we like a cup and I think we might be a cup and I'll look at the double check that Sharon Stone stories So we can call the corner. I'm gonna double check this. Okay, dude There's more of us we have the corners So Sharon Stone was married to Robert Evans who is a big producer. He was one of the producers on slipper And you know, it's a Robert Evans. Yeah, you know what Google that

Married I found the Let me see relationships. She met television producer Michael Greenberg. I don't care Stone met Williams Jay McDonald a Bill McDonald on the set of sliver which he co-produced But did she marry him or not? Anyway, they were together and You know that because they kept cutting two pictures of Sharon Stone at sliver on the red carpet going like smiling Like you have to keep your interest in the story. They're like, and then Axiom hit old people.

It's like, cut to Sharon Stone again. Yay. Everybody's like the one here. When you guys are ready, I'm not saying it has to be now, but I can tell you about Sharon Stone getting struck by lightning. I think it's could be an important lesson for all of us, but we can.

I will be ready whenever you are. So you know me in lightning. I'm anxiously awaiting that tale. Well, we have to get to the why. I hope why Sharon Stone was hit by lightning before we can get that. We do. So let's get to it. So, Bill McDonald was going around the office, dispersing payments to everybody in cash

and said, do not deposit this because it's obviously a criminal enterprise and everybody knew it, you know, and we're basically just waiting to get caught. And I guess they're trusting that because it's Robert Evans and he's such a big deal and it's paramount, they're not going to get caught, but the guy got arrested for coke. Like, you're going to get caught, you know what I mean? Right. He's not really sly. No.

Yeah. So Evan, wait, let me see here. Evans, McDonald's and the Dave's had a business together for about five years, this axiom. And then we find out more about John Collette, who all we've been able to see so far is that he was a secure, he was something security, something or other. I don't know. You know, some old people got mad at him. No, Yes, I was gonna say He was a star he was a stereo salesman and and he met he met these guys

At AA and that's how they got that's how they got really Mm-hmm, is that true? He met a Parker Bryant principle. It's Parker Bryant, you said, was the subsidiary. These Dave's owned Parker Bryant, right? And so he met a Parker Bryant principle at AA, which is also where he met Kim Richards. So this guy was on the other side. Was this also Bill McDonald? Because it says here that Bill McDonald got 15 grand to introduce Robert Evans and the Dave's so maybe they maybe David maybe Bill was in I don't know here's what I know if you live in a and you're not

going if you live in LA and you're not going to a you probably don't have a career you're missing out that's really what we're getting out of. I mean, look at Billy, who was it? On Vanderpump Rules. Larly. Larly. One of the greatest characters in the world. I was gonna say Billy. On Vanderpump Rules.

Yeah, and got dumped right outside AA by Jacks. Super. But then got to be in We're the Miller. So, the more so- All right, we'll see who won. I'm still waiting for her. I'm still waiting for her, Marry. I believe in you, Lourely.

I do too. I thought I could love her. She did like an independent film a year and a half ago called like Bond Silver Lake or something like that. Silver Lake, right? Yeah. Mm-hmm. I don't know if it was funded by Axiom films or not,

but you know, we can't really help. We'll find out. I don't. But John Collette, John Collette, so he meets a principle from Parker Bryant and he winds up becoming the star salesman at this Ponzi scheme company that's, according to, I think it was the LA Times, he was responsible for at least $11 million in transactions with 240 individuals. And so this company is related to this axiom. It's their, they both trace back to these, to these brother, the devs. Right. And towards, uh, uh, Collette was a top salesman. Like you said, he, one of his biggest deals was two and a half million from an elderly

widow dying of cancer in Hawaii, which is super grossing. Jesus. And the- The most evil. It said, in 1991, after the prosecutors turned up the heat, he was gunned down. So I thought it was pretty interesting that all this is scrubbed from the internet and then it turns out to be tied to these movie people in Paramount Studios. It's like, oh, okay. And even back at the time, people weren't saying

Collette was gunned down and he was part of this fraud going on out of the movie studios. And I just thought, you know, well, then Paramount did it, okay? There, I have said it. You want to be paying it? I'll be paying it. Well, so Marva.

Allegedly. Marva, Marva, De Carlo, he says, so basically he, he goes, he shoots, he talks with John Colett outside of Brent Steley, which is a super famous deli here in LA, and then kills an execution style, hops into this Honda, and drives off. And it was that people at the deli wrote down the license plate, was that people at the Delhi wrote down the license plate. And that's how the cops were able to track down Marva. So he basically gets thrown in jail, I think, for life without parole. Oh, not without parole, but he gets thrown in for life. Thirty years to life. Thirty to life, right. And then when he's at a 2008 parole hearing,

Marva starts telling the story that he met John through a mutual friend. And that basically John was looking to, he had all this money and he wanted to invest into a computer business, which is what Marva was doing. And that John said that he wanted to basically use Marva's business to launder money. And then Marva is like, at first, he's like,

oh, I need the money. According to him, this is according to him telling the parole board this, by the way, he has a very flattering account of what happened. And he's like, of course, weird. Then he realized he's like, no, no, I'm starting my own computer business in Pasadena and I don't want it to be a dirty business.

And so then John Collette had a temper and started getting really mad and started disrespecting him. And then I guess this is the conversation that happened in front of the deli. And he said that John reached for his gun and Marva pulled the gun away from him and then shot him in self-defense, even though he was one who already had the gun and he pulled the gun away from John. I shot him in self defense even though he was one who already

had the gun and he pulled the gun away from I shot himself defense execution style in the head while he was in a hand with his own guns. But here's my favorite part. Here's my favorite part. And then I got a real space. That's much. If there ever was a question of there was a cover up like this is to me here to me is the prime example that there was clearly a cover up. Like, this is, to me, here to me is the prime example that there was clearly a cover

up. Because remember, the original report was that Marvel got into a Honda and then there was a getaway driver and they drove off. But he tells the parole board that he was so, the whole thing was so crazy, he was going to pass out from low blood sugar. So he walked around the corner and got ordered two lemonade. And then he said, That makes it worse though, actually.

And then he walked the store after I murdered this guy. I was parched. So I got lemonade. I see Mick, I had to get some lemonade. What around the corner? And then he says that, So then they were like, well, if you shot in self defense and you're innocent, why did you flee?

And he said he didn't wait for the police because he thought that John Colette was connected to the mob. So he ran away. So he was he was scared enough that this guy was connected to the mob, but not too scared to To get lemonade Yeah, I mean to shoot him in the middle of like a deli in daylight. Yeah, yeah. And then he tells, and then he then he says, I don't know if this was in 2008 or if this was in 2015 open letter, he wrote to John to Jan Collette and I think him.

He said, I'm not a criminal in the sense of knowing what to do and what not to do. I'm just very naive of the law and I just did what I felt I needed to do before I came to jail. So hold on. I'm naive to the law so I did not understand that killing somebody in broad daylight would get me arrested. I'm naive. I studied law. I the first one. He's like, well, no one told me murder was against the law. Like what? You're bad for not telling me. Okay.

That's on the school system, okay? That's not on me. I don't know what to tell you. Also, what did the person selling lemonade? What did they think when a guy walked in who must have had exploded brain blood on his children? I was just gonna say a little bit of a refill now. Thanks. I'd have two of your sweetest it is LA. It's so LA. It's like just so they're just like the government get them out. But if you deal here you go. Bye. The significance of the story is that it seems crazy to me.

It seems to me like he he totally changes the narrative. He's basically saying there was no getaway car, there was no one else. It sounds like he is trying to erase anyone else from this story, right? Oh yeah. You remember we have that original witness, he said he received $30,000 the day that he did this thing.

And now we're seeing from what Ronnie said that actually this guy was part of a Ponzi scheme that went all the way up into Hollywood. And so clearly, clearly something is there's some, something afoot. Yeah. He's doing his best to take anyone else out of this because he's like, see, I'm not ratting. I'm not ratting this isn't like, nope, totally. Yeah. So, I mean, it must be some serious money

in power trying to keep that quiet. But every time I Googled his name plus anybody else's name in this, only K-Surf came out. I was Googling employment records, trying to see, like maybe he worked for a company that was involved with the movie studio or Robert Evans or something, but nothing came up.

The only information about this guy ever is what's, what said in the murder, in the murder stuff, you know, the murder. Yeah, right. Yeah, crazy. It's bizarre. Also worth noting is that Parker Bryant, the Ponzi schemeeme Company that that that Colette worked for. At their height, they, they, their offices were in Westwood and they were on the top two floors

of the Oppenheimer building. And of course, House of Hilton was written by Jerry Oppenheimer. Not sure if they're related, but I mean, if you wanna bring everything full circle, full circle. That is, but Anna was. Why does this all connect in so many ways? Because Kathy, big Kathy is upstairs,

just putting it all up. Oh, man. Does anybody else want to celebrate with this screwdriver? I'm so hungry. Who does him? Yeah, I'm ready. Let's end this with finding out

when Sharon Stone got her ass hit by lightning. I want to know. Yes, please. So, okay, I just pulled up the article. This is from today.com, so this is part of the today's show. I'll just read it, because I almost think I don't even have to put a spin on it, because it's so wonderful.

As household chores go, ironing doesn't seem like the risk is to one out there, though the potential for burns merits a little extra care when the appliance is turned on. What a great introduction. That brings us to the end. That's all ready. Oh, thank you.

The more you know. Thank you for telling us about how irons work. So basically, but as Sharon Stone recently discovered, even a cold iron can pack an unexpected punch. So, she basically, Sharon Stone was right. You guys, your mother was right. My mom was right. I love this. She basically, Sharon was right, you guys. Your mother was right. My mom was right.

I'm saying. So during a visit to the films to be buried with podcasts, the actress casually reflected on the time, she planned to press some clothes. I mean, let me start this. I'm so excited because it's so perfectly Sharon so perfectly Sharon's done the actress casually reflected on the time she planned to press some clothes But found herself long across the room instead Her Roenta iron and just eat across the room. Touching her Rowenta iron and just exploding across the room.

Also, am I supposed to believe that Sharon Stone iron's her own clothing? Like, come on. That too, that too. You're not going to get to the Oscars. What are you talking about guys? She's totally whale. Just one about it. Oh my god.

She was tinkering with her fuse box. She's like, is this the iron? You know, she's like, That's exactly what happened. So, she was simply adding water to the iron's reservoir when disaster in the form of a lightning bolt struck. Okay, so she says this. She goes, wow, it was really intense. I was at home. We had our own well, and I was filling the iron with water, and I had one hand on the faucet

One hand on the iron and the well got hit with lightning and the lightning came up through the water Oh my god, she created a circuit. She literally did She did I was like I feel like maybe she's just running it under the sink while it's plugged in and that's the problem here She's that where we're headed. She's like, lightning. It's crazy. I saw it. She got picked up and thrown across the kitchen and she hit there for a drink and she goes, I was like, whoa. Ramona style. Whoa. Whoa. And then she goes, my mother was standing there, and my mother just belted me across the face and brought me to her mother just smacked her. I know you just got struck by lightning,

but maybe a quick smack across the face. I just punch you in the jaw real quick, that's the cure. Your problem is how many times did Big Cathy make Kim and Kyle stand out in the middle of a lightning storm with a kite? Be like, you do this until you get strong I heard the Hollywood I heard the getting struck by lightning brings you charisma girls. Good. I think I get out So every January she just struck them out in the one lightning storm that happens for things You know what though it explains a lot

Wow I have four things. You know what though it explains a lot. Wow. Wow. Got a lot of drama in that family and that's just, you know, Wow. A very shallow Google search. Well, except for, you know, that's a little, you know, I'm found. You like the only 18 years. You didn't get the goldmine there, Ronnie.

That was amazing. So this, I mean, this could be really, really, really, That was so impressive. Isn't that crazy that that was, you know, it was just, you know, it's like Linda Matook who who uploaded that YouTube like Like Yeah, she wanted to like show her mom and she was like look

I'll just put it on YouTube. I don't want to send a whole beta tape over to you. I'll put it on the YouTube You can't tell me I love Tell me that that one of the top earners in Parker Bryant, you can't tell me that those devs did not at some point broker some sort of introduction with Robert Evans or any of the people in Axiom, especially because John Collette seemed to be a little bit. There was something, there was something literally

shycy about him and the fact that he is working in a Ponzi scheme, but he's like a stereo salesman and then he meets this guy in AA and then all of a sudden he wants to be a salesman but he also meets Kim Richards and who's to offer her feet. Like there's something like I think that given that Kim Richards attachment to oil money with the bear with I feel like this could have gone down a very crazy path with this guy because this guy is in the center of a lot of big money all around him and you wonder how much Kim knew. Sorry, go ahead. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Oh no, I'm sorry. You just wonder how much Kim knew too. She knew it all. Like did you know anything? Did you know nothing? Did you know a little bit? Why do you think she's so haunted to this day? I?

Feel like him didn't know I actually do I don't I feel like I think him is just like I'm a wonderful guy. He just goes away We saw Amy. It's just a great guy great guy I feel like she didn't know a lot either because it like and it's just like the way that she was about him Like first of all she was on the phone with him when it happened. Yep. And like the story is that she said, he said, tell me you love me before it happened. And then when she went there to find him, what did she say? She called the deli and said, have you seen my boyfriend? He's a nice looking guy.

He's a very nice looking guy. That's how, and I just feel like that's so like, that's so like in his face. He's just, he's just really had some guy,, you know who he is like that I don't know I love she's like the sweet one and it's actually I mean it's very I feel very terrible for her for having to go to that I think that's very traumatic and then she had to go identify the body so I feel very bad Yes, yeah, she's had a very traumatic life in general she has but there was a silver lining for her in general. She has, but there was a silver lining for her, a morbid silver lining, which is that, so now John Collette, you know, he's killed, and Jan Collette is like, wow, I got this. John has this motorcycle. Oh, yes. So, so basically, there's a guy who's

interested in buying John Collette's motorcycle. I guess from the mom, the mom's controlling it or something like that, but she calls up Kim and lets her know that there's a guy who's interested in buying it because she tells Kim because this was John's favorite motorcycle. He's like, well, you should probably talk to this guy, maybe let him know about, I don't know what it is, but she has, she has Kim meet the sky. His name is John Jackson. And they meet. And I guess they go out and they connect. And then John Jackson, they never marry, but they have a relationship. And John is the father of Kimberly, who many times on real houses, Beverly Hills. So and we've actually seen John too. but that is the sort of this Strange origin story of that romance I How do the next question mark a weird me. Yeah, there love stories unique

I think all her love stories are unique. They are they really all of her partners in strange ways She really does remember that guy she met when she was buying chicken at the grocery store? She's like, oh my god. I'm so dumb. I'm so dumb. I'm looking. And he would talk like, this can. My god, he was so scary.

The hotel scene when they were getting ready. And she's looking for something in her purse. And he's yelling at her Yeah, they're obviously fuss up in that limo or when she's on the bathroom floor like searching behind the toilet and stuff. Yeah Oh my god, that was dark. Was that season? It's an unsolved mission. It's not I mean it is solved We know who killed but we feel like there's more to the story and see. Yeah, very powerful people are connected to these people. So my guess is that he got in trouble

for either the old widow scam or something like that. And they had him testifying against the other guys and they did it, man. That's what I'm gonna go ahead and guess. But who knows? Oh, I didn't even say it. You know, his mom has a whole theory too. That, what is that?

All the people involved, like they were getting sued basically for this whole scheme. And this one guy was like getting lawyers for all of them or something like that. And she thinks that that guy took all the money and then had them each killed so that he could take all the money. Mm, oh my God.

I think she was gonna write a book actually. She's been trying to write a book for like 20 years. Well maybe now, maybe now they'll be renewed interests. Not that before. I think so. You're welcome, Jan. Yeah, hopefully you're friends. You're welcome, Jan.

And I love that we work Sharon Stone into this. I think that was like, the greatest feat of all this is that we worked Sharon Stone because Sharon Stone opens up for motor dragons, as I mentioned. And just other Sharon Stone things. So I just felt right. I can be an entirely new episode.

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