Watch What Crappens - Dwell Hello #507 Artist Wants It All in a Tiny House

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

This week on Dwell Hello, an artist in Phoenix wants to find a tiny house that features a proper bedroom, a full-sized kitchen, a bath tub, a closet, and place to paint. Sounds reasonable!  This is a recap of House Hunters S163E08 Artist Wants It All in a Tiny House, and we watched it on Max.Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Well hello and welcome to Dwell Hello, a house hunter's podcast here from the Watcher Crappins guys, Ben and Ronnie. That's me. I'm Ben. That's Ronnie over there. What's going on? Ronnie, how are you? Good. How's it going with you, baby? Going great. excited to talk about this week's Dwell Hello thing, which is artists wants it all in a tiny home, which was sent to us by Mary. Thanks, Mary, for the suggestion. This is house. You can find it on max it is house i don't know what a house hunters episode is it do you have the number of it i think it's just house hunters it's season 163 episode eight artist wants it all in a tiny house there it is but i don't think it's like a tiny home because they do have the tiny house house hunters

now i don't think it's that i think it's just a regular house hunters regular house hunters but if you just if you do what i did which is just type in artist wants it all in a tiny house it will come right on up on max so um yeah so thanks for sending that in if you have dwelled Hello suggestions as always. Email us at watch for crappins at gmail.com and put dwell hello suggestion in your subject header. Otherwise, there's a good chance. We will miss it when we do a search.

So this is about an artist. Now, always I'm a little bit annoyed when people are like, I'm an artist. I'll be the judge of that. How about you put a painting up and let us be the judge of whether you're or not you're an artist, Bethany? Yeah. We don't really see any Bethany art, do we? We see her like painting some stripes on to something.

something. Yeah. And we don't say any finished pieces. No, she's a very, she winds up being like a very stereotypical like L.A. region artist where she has a lot of feathers around and trinkets, like kind of Burning Man-esque. Like she's someone who probably goes to Joshua Tree and sells items at farmers markets and things like that. You know, she's, she's one of those. Yeah, which is valid. But, you know, I just don't, I don't know how much what I don't know how much I'd need to trust Bethany's art, especially because none of it is shown. So I guess I'm basically, calling Bethany a lazy liar. That's how we're starting off.

Yeah. And I think that, like, you already feeling kind of exasperated by her is how many people in her life feel. And that's all personified by her friend Juhi, who has been roped into doing this show. And she clearly flew to Phoenix from probably, you know, like Silver Lake. And Juey hates everything about this. She hates looking for tiny homes. She hates being in Phoenix.

She honestly may even hate Bethany. she just hates this entire concept and she just knows she's going to be the one who's going to have to deal with all the fallout when Bethany calls and is like you know what I'm so sorry it turns out the shower the water pressure in my tiny home is just not good enough

can I just like shower at your place today and Julie's going to have to be like fine I don't want Bethany to come over but now I have to deal with Bethany because I went on this journey with her or even worse she's going to be because you know they had that conversation where she's like I want to move into a tiny home

and Julie was like an actual home or are you talking about like a trailer? No, it's not a trailer. It's a trailer, girl. You're going to move into a trailer? No, it's a tiny home. Is it on wheels? Yes.

Does it attach to a truck? Yes. It's a trailer, bitch. Why are you calling this a tiny home? And then you know Bethany's going to show up at her house. Like, I got kicked off the last land I was on because it like turns out. It was like, I don't know. It belonged to natives.

And so like, now I need somewhere to stay. And I stay in your backyard, Julie. Bethany is she is a burden to society Yeah, Bethany's on bucket Bethany's the burden And you know, he's like, yes, get a trailer I'm going to take off the wheels And leave you in the middle of Phoenix.

Bye, you're not coming home with you. Goodbye. So Linda, the narrator says In Phoenix, Arizona, traveling artists, I'm sorry America, you couldn't see it But I was doing air quotes. Bethany thinks she's going tiny But everything that comes out of her stupid mouth

screams otherwise. Yeah. And we see her standing outside these trailers. And she's like, wow, this is like rustic and modern. Girl, they're shaker on the outside. How are you calling this rustic and modern? What are you talking about? I don't think those concepts totally go together.

And everything she's like, I wish this had more windows. I wish there was another room. I wish there was like a second floor. So her best friend, Juhi, doesn't understand why she's going tiny. Or even why she's even friends with her in the first place. Because if she can't get what she wants, Bethany is a nightmare. And Dewey's like, well, yeah,

Bethany has a lot of clothes. They're all really ugly. And I don't know how she's going to fit any of these. I mean, listen, you're going to need closet space, especially for those clothes, preferably with a very thick door, because those are some ugly clothes. Even the mods won't eat them.

The mods come in and they say, you know what, we're just going to try a different diet now. They leave. You've never seen mods leave clothing as fast as Bethany's wardrobe. I literally search for the Gail Simmons of Moths and even they wouldn't eat her gloves. So now here we are in Phoenix, Arizona. And Bethany is, she's painting stripes. She's painting stripes on a canvas.

She goes, my name's Bethany. I'm 27, originally from New York, but currently living in Arizona. and I've always loved painting because I was interested in bringing this joy to other people because I don't know if people know about this but painting is a thing and I kind of invented it so I was like you know what I'm going to do I'm going to teach people that painting is a thing

yeah and I'm going to do it for low-income communities without any access to arts funding because they're less judgmental because they haven't had arts funding they don't know what this means I could call this house rustic modern what the fuck would they know they don't know so that's where I'm going This is so funny because it's actually a great mission, right? Providing, you know, for communities that don't have arts funding, that's great. But like, fast forward all the way to the end of the episode.

She's like, yeah, I left Phoenix because I wanted to be by my friends in Los Angeles. So it's like, well, I understand that you don't have any funding for your arts programs, but I also don't have any friends. So what I'm trying to say is enjoy your job at McDonald's. Bye. Yeah. She's like, I'm going to teach poor people to paint stripes. It's going to be really exciting. You know, I'm going to teach poor people to make stripes until I realize I have no dinner parties to go to and then I'm going to go to L.A.

Well, not even L.A. because she ends up in Southern California. She doesn't say, she says, I missed L.A. But there's nowhere she's parking that thing in L.A. I couldn't place it. I was trying to place those. I mean, it did look like kind of an L.A. Canyon vibe. Or if she'd get that fucking trailer up, I don't know. Yeah, I think she's probably by the outlet mall.

that you see when you're on your way to Palm Springs. She's in Cabazon. She's doing a day shift at like the Morango Casino. Dun, dun, dun, dun, da, da, da, da, da da, da, da, da, da, da, Don, Bethany, stop painting the slot machines. It's such a good theme song. Damn it. Got that earworm into my head, the Morongo Casino,

casino Marongo. So she tells us, you know, I've been hopping around quite a bit. I just love traveling, you know, and I'll work remotely for the most part, painting stripes. I can paint stripes in any city, guys. What I do is I paint my computer screen and hopefully they see it on Zoom. So that's how I get it done. While she's been staying with friends, air quotes again, in case you can't see me, in Phoenix, she's ready for a place of her own. But it needs to be tiny and on wheels to suit her nomadic lifestyle. So Bethany, do you have a car? No.

How are you going to get your tiny house around? I haven't thought of that. Idiot. Joey. Hey, Julie. Do you mind bringing your Saturn over here? She's like, no, it's old. And if you cause me, if you cut, if lugging your tiny home causes the Saturn to die, just know, there's no replacement.

They don't make them anymore. So, Bethany. Why aren't you friends with Bethany? Because she's the Saturn of people. She's no longer rolling off the conveyor belt. Kind of a fascination for a hipster. So Bethany says, my budget is $90,000, and I'm looking for a tiny home that's anywhere from 200 square feet to 2,500 square feet. So, you know, it doesn't have to be tiny to me.

That's not what tiny means. Tiny doesn't mean tiny. Girl, tiny means tiny. Yes, it does. It's tiny. It's tiny. No, it means living large, because if I go tiny, I will have room in my life to do other. amazing things except taking a bath or having a dinner party lady well aside from that but like i don't

have to worry so much about paying mortgage or rent there's no way out of that stuff you've got what to do it if you do if i do need to do that stuff joey will do it for me yeah juby's like damn it i never should have gotten real job in this friendship you know i went through a time where this was what i was looking for do you remember yeah i really wanted to move out of my apartment in l.a and i was like the only way i'm going to be able to do this is by getting a tiny home. So I can get a tiny home and then I can find a little plot of land somewhere in L.A. Because you can get like little slivers of land, you know like unused pieces of land like in the hills or wherever. You can find them like at a decent price because they're just a sliver, but that's all you need for a tiny home. Oh my God. So I really started doing

the research. That's just not how it works. Even a sliver of land. You have to have the architect. You have to pay like a city approved architect. You have to get all these permits. Then you have to pay a shit ton of money in fees and all of this. I mean, it's just never easy. It's never easy. Trust me, I would be living in a tiny home right now. This was my dream. But also, like, what about electricity and plumbing? How does that work with a tiny home? I guess I should say with a mobile tiny home. You have to get it, you would get it run over like everything else, but it wouldn't be as movable as a home because you'd have to run, you'd have to run lines and stuff like you were building a house. So it would still take years to get all that stuff done, you know, unless you

live in like a place where it's a tiny home neighborhood where like a RV park or something where they have all those hookups already. I don't think I'd want to live in a tiny home neighborhood. If I did the tiny home thing, I think I'd want to have like a little plot of land. It's kind of like, just that movie with Will Ferrell, the documentary of Will Ferrell and his friend, I'm blanking on her name, Harper, where she just like, she's trans and she sort of wants to get away from the world. And so she got this random little house in the middle of like random but fuck California. And she's like, this is just where I want to be. And I kind of feel like if I'm doing the tiny home thing and I'm getting a plot of land,

I almost want the land to be big and the home to be small, you know? Right? Yeah. I don't want to be with other tiny homes. Yeah, yeah. You want a tiny home, but then build a huge patio and all this other stuff that, yeah, you could hook up to that. One day, maybe I'll still do it.

But then Ben reminded me, I'm big. And you didn't call me big, but you were like, your life is already bigger than a tiny home. Because even in my one bedroom apartment, I was like, okay, I'll just make a desk into a table that's also a bed. You're like, uh, just get a house. I came in with an end of our relationship. You were like Ronnie. I came in with like Deborah Rush Energy. I was like, oh, very nice.

I was always very impressed with how Ronnie used to have this really teeny tiny apartment. And I was always incredibly impressed with how you actually filled up that entire space and made it very live. but also gave it like a lot of personality. It was always surprisingly like, for as small as it was, it was not like uncomfortable. I didn't think. Well, thanks. Yeah, it was very impressed with that. Tiny homes.

I'm still looking into it or like metal homes. You know how you can buy like metal shed homes. I'm into it. What about a cage? What about a cage? What about a cage? Yeah. I'm just going to like decorate a dog crate and live in that.

Guys, crates. The crates are the new tiny homes. So, Bethany. Bethany is sitting across an outdoor communal table from, of course she's at a communal table. She's not going to do her own single table. Got to save money and go to a communal table. So Bethany's like, I'm just so nervous. No one's going to come visit me like you.

She's like, yeah, that's because you live in a tiny home in Phoenix. And no one wants to come to blazing hot heat to not be able to go inside because they can't fit where there might be. And their air conditioning probably doesn't work anyway. Yeah, girl. No one is paying for a plane ticket to come visit a tiny home. No way. Hey, do you want to live in a loft above the toilet across from me? No, I don't.

Even for a day. But it's in Phoenix, where it's 120 degrees outside and 130 degrees inside. No, sorry. We never get a question about that. And that's the thing that I was most shocked about in this episode is she's like, I want a bathtub. I want to walk in closet. Like, she's a dummy. But she never says, what about the air conditioning in this thing?

How's that? Yeah. Because you know what probably stinks in there. She probably doesn't even show. So, I'm just gonna say it right now. So we find out about Bethany. She's like, I'm Bethany, I'm 27, Ben already said all of this, I need a home base. So then she needs a home of her own to suit her nomadic lifestyle.

And I spell that G-N-O-M-E-Matic, okay? Because she's basically one of those things in the garden that's terrifying and you just want to ignore. Except it paints stripes, which is somehow worse. So Linda says, joining Bethany on the Haunt is her best friend, Juhi, who is skeptical of all things tiny and all things Bethany and is not afraid to call Bethany out on her crazy ideas. Like patterns. God, Bethany, that dress is ugly. Hey, it's my life choice. Also, Juhi doesn't like Bethany.

Yeah, Jewie just stands there staring at the camera. Like, are you waiting for a response? So she's like, yeah, I'm pretty... Linda's just giving certain truths. She's like, I'll just say it. friendship has a time limit. And Julie's like, I'm pretty ruthless when it comes to saying what's on my mind. Watch this.

Your web toes are disgusting and no one's ever going to marry you. Isn't this fun? And she just takes it. It's an amazing friendship. Bethany's like, yeah, I really don't get my feelings hurt, mainly because I'm fairly stoned most of the time. And it's just like a perfect friendship. She can just be a raging bitch.

And I just shrug and smile knowing that my privilege is just going to carry me to the next top. And Jewie is like, yeah, you know, she doesn't have any. feeling anywhere. Hand me that pan. Would you, Bethany? See? Look, Bethany's like, what did you hit me? That was crazy. You know what? I accept it because that's art. That's her art. I paint stripes and she hits me over the head with steel pans. Yeah. Julie, it's like my art is evisceration. So, you know, I can do that remotely as well. I want to know more about Julie because we see them at this coffee shop and Bethany's doing something

on her computer. Maybe she's doing her remote painting. But Julie is like making a final cut movie about Ju-Hi. Did you notice that? Like there's like, Jewi was like on screen on her Final Cut browser and she was like editing. She's like okay, well, I don't like Bethany, but this is going to give me great exposure to my brand. America is about to meet Juhi. Everyone, the

Juhi experience has begun. So Bethany's so excited about having our own space, you know. It's been a while. I haven't had a bed in years. Girl. I've been traveling so much for work. No, you haven't. I'm sorry. You've not been traveling a lot. painting stripes. You just haven't.

Prove it. You haven't. You have not. You have not been traveling so much. Just stop acting like you work at McKinsey and you're going from one corporation to another consulting. Okay. Yeah, you're fucking flake. You know, you're only getting a tiny house because Dewey won't let you sleep on her futon anymore.

We all know it. Yeah. So Bethany says, I would say my style is modern and rustic, but also brutalists, but also craftsmen. And then, you know, I would also, it's arts and crafts as well, but it's Beaux's art. It's art new though. It's a little, you know, Georgian, I would say, maybe. I don't know, neoclassical. Well, all those things. I can guarantee you she doesn't even know half of those words. This girl does not know those words. So it says wish list, modern rustic. We don't see one modern rustic place and she calls them all modern rustic, which is hilarious. So, you know, that's kind of rustic, I guess.

Beams, well, I mean, I guess they can't. Those weren't rustic beams, though. that were very square. But you know, farmers use beans, so it's rustic. So, Julie's like, well, you'll need large windows. And Bethany's like, oh, yeah. You know why I need large windows? Because windows let light in. Get the fuck out of here, Bethany.

I've never heard such a thing. Yeah, enjoy all that. Yeah, I'm sure that'll work out really well with the blazing Phoenix sun, having all that light in your house. Also, Bethany has this, she has this insight. She goes, it's really important that my tiny home fuel like a home, but doesn't feel tiny, even though technically a tiny home. You could also just not get a tiny home.

How about that? Here's an idea. Just get a home if you don't want it to be tiny. Yeah. Bless her heart. So she also wants a first floor bedroom, which sounds gray-gray. I think she's thinking of a trailer, like a... Not a trailer.

A mobile home, you know? She needs like a tour bus. I think that's actually what she's looking for with a bed in the back, kitchen out in the middle, you know? She's like, yeah, I want like a first floor bedroom, you know. She's like, okay, first four, but she wants windows and bedroom and rustic. Okay, that's all right, we'll see what we can do. And she's like, no, there's more.

I also need a large closet, ideally walk in, maybe two of those. And also, it's really important for me to have a bathtub. A tub. A tub. She wants a tub. So, Jewie's like a tub and a tiny house. And she's like, yeah. I mean, that makes it feel like a home.

You know? I mean, I remember being young and my mom would run a nice bath and then she'd say I could have been something and then she would just hold me under the water Oh gosh That was so fun What a great moment that was Yeah I was see a light And I would start crawling towards it And then she dragged me back and say I'm not going to jail for you

You little bitch So that was fun So I just want to relive those memories With the tip So now Julie starts to troll her She's like oh well you also need Space for your painting And it's probably a big place to cook

So you need probably a nice Open Concept kitchen She's like that's true I do need those things So space for painting And a big kitchen, thank you You know what you should get A sewing room

That's what you need Or a gift wrapping room. You should have that too. Oh my God. Do you know what Bethany loves? Ice skating rinks. Could you put an ice skating rink in one of these? Thank you for reminding me of that.

That's true. I'm going to put that on the list. So, Julie, he's like, I definitely think that Bethany will have to adjust a lot of things on her wish list. Too bad. Her personality can't be one of them. Because I feel like she's just, like,

asking for, like, a lot of space in her tiny room. And Bethany says, I mean, I do. I want it all. Like, why not have it all, if possible? Because you're getting a tiny home. Yeah. That's in the name. Well, Bethany is working with several Phoenix builders to see if any of them are up to the task.

So let's meet some builders, sucker. So this one, we don't see a realtor person. We just get Juhi, which is kind of cool. And then we meet a lot of the local builders. And these tiny home builders are hilarious because they just look at her like she's crazy. So the first one is Elizabeth Singleton. And she's showing her a modern option. Now, this was the one, I believe, that had Shaker on the outside, right?

And they're like, look, classic modern design. Wow, this is like a Frank Lloyd Wright. So Elizabeth is like, well, here it is. This is our largest model. It's 272 square feet, but not including the loft. So that's an extra half a foot of space that you're getting. Enjoy. Yeah, this one's big.

It's nice. The outside's ugly, but you can make it cuter, you know, because you have a designer there. And it's only 79, 500. And she wants to, her budget is 90,000. So they love that it's like almost 11 grand under budget. So Bethany's like, oh my God, modern rustic. Am I right? They're like, it's really very modern rustic.

And I almost want to say it's rustic modern, but it's really more modern rustic. You know? Jew's like, well, what do you think about those windows in here? That's nice. She's like, well, I love the quantities. I kind of wish they were larger. I kind of wish there were larger windows. I also wish there was like a TV room.

Do you think that like maybe there might be a TV. deep room in here somewhere. It would be nice. A screening room. I would love some movie theater seats. That would be great. And I know. And Elizabeth's like there are 13 windows, but they're all tiny.

Guess why? Because this has to go on the road. Okay? So you don't get to just have a big wall of glass. This has to be road tested. You fucking idiot. And she's like, wow. Oh my God.

This feels huge. I mean, the way I can touch one wall and then touch the other wall and then touch the other wall. Mansion. I've arrived. I am living large. So inside there's like a narrow staircase that goes up to the loft. It's very narrow, but then it also has like storage underneath it, which is really cool. And then there's a kitchen.

There's actually a pretty large kitchen considering. But the look of the kitchen is kind of dated. It's kind of like a 90s or maybe a 2000's kitchen with like a lot of kind of like, is that like cherry wood or whatever? Like that's for a brown redwood with like a granite faux granite countertop. So not the most beautiful kitchen, but also like you're getting a tiny home. I would just be happy with just having a kitchen. Anything.

You're like, wow. Yeah. There's something. I think it's actually nice. I don't like to finish as either, but, you know, since it's with a builder, they build it especially for you. So you pick all your finishes. You know, she could pick nicer finishes.

That's what I kind of figured. I like how that the stairs were all the way to the side and then they had storage. There wasn't a railing, but I wouldn't mind if Bethany fell. So like, I'm fine with that. But it was nice. It was nicely designed how the stairs were all the way to the side because there was One where the stairs made an L and then they came out into the middle of the house, which I thought was really weird. We'll get to that.

We'll get to that. We'll get to that. So, yeah, so she wants more windows. And Elizabeth is like, yeah, you can customize this and you can actually add in more windows. So Bethany realized that there is a lot of space. And she's like, oh, look, I can use this as a studio. I can just set up a canvas here and just paint. And I can also dine here.

I could dine on the paint. I could eat paint all day long in here. Yeah, this is weird because she wants to set up an art studio, but she never once notice, she never once says, where do I store all my canvases when I'm done with that? Never. Or like, where do I put the art? There's no wall space. I also feel like if it were me, I would just be less concerned about setting up studio space.

I would just like rent a studio. You're saving all this money on a mortgage. So just rent studio space in whichever community you're in. Or just like do it outside. So there's storage, which is good. And then they open up this. Actually, there's this really nice wooden door that they've made some sort of like pattern on it that I liked. And you open it up. And there is a first floor bedroom. And it's kind of like, you know, it's not a big bedroom, obviously. But it's like a bedroom. You know, it's, we've definitely stayed in some hotel rooms that have been about the size of that bedroom. So, you know, not crazy. Yeah. So there's a first floor bedroom. And then there's also a washer dryer combo thing. You know, like this one machine. And she goes, yeah, I. don't need a washer or dryer. I don't need laundry. And they're like, who doesn't need laundry? That's like the most important part of everyone who goes looking for a house is like, where's the

laundry room? Nobody wants a house with no laundry. I'm sorry. I did it for years. This is the first time I've ever had a washer dryer. And it's now that I've had it, I will never go back. Like going to who wants to go to the laundromat? Girl, I did that for every week of my adult life. Who wants that? I cannot believe someone actually said, no, I don't want a washer dryer. Can we make it where there's no washer dryer unit? Who the fuck says that? That's absolutely nuts. And the lady goes, well, there is a washboard up there you could use because for the

decoration, there's like an old-timey washboard up there. She goes, yeah, I'll just do that. Great. So they are, she's, they're in this room, this bedroom. And, you know, Elizabeth is saying like, well, you know, this way you can still live in a little bit of luxury. while having that, you know, that's what the bedroom is good for,

a little bit of luxury. I'm like, this is not a little bit of luxury. This is zero luxury. There's, you can't even, yes, it's more luxurious versus being, like sleeping with your face touching, your nose touching the ceiling in a loft, but this is not luxury.

This is a sliding scale. Yeah. And she hates that there's no bath, which I think is hilarious. And so they discuss the pros and cons. And she's like, it's so big. Oh, my God. It has a big kitchen.

But the kitchen felt dark. It needs more windows. Yeah, she doesn't like the surfaces or anything. Even though it is a good, like, you know, there's like good options there. So now they move on to the next house. So the next house is the biggest one that they see. And it's very large, but it was my least favorite of the three of them. I'll just say that right now.

So, okay. So Bethany is going tiny in Arizona to suit a nomadic lifestyle, but she's not willing to sacrifice creature comforts. Can she make it on $90,000? Let's meet up with local builder Nathan Wallace. So they come to this little blue tiny home and has all this patio furniture and stuff. And this one's 394 square feet, which is like a mansion. It's huge. And it has French stores.

And so it looks big. It looks wonderful. Well, it doesn't look wonderful from the outside. It looks just like a box, you know, but they go inside. And so this is the one where there are two lofts, and the two lofts have this big, chunky staircases, and they both, the staircases come just, like, right into the middle of the living area. And then not only do they come down in there, they sort of jut forward.

And then in between the staircases, it's a cute little, like, banquette or whatever. So you can sit and have, like, your meal. But there's no usable space in that center area because the staircases take up so much space. I hated it. Yeah, this is absolutely stupid design. I can't believe they did it like that. And she goes, well, I love that there's an office space below the stairs because they shoved like a little table in there. But you're not an office worker. You're a painter. Why would you need a little cubby hole under a stair? Come on. There's like no place to sit. There's like no room to sit except for your little like bankette. Now it has like a kitchen that's like a pretty large kitchen for a tiny home. So that's I think is like the big like

value thing that they have. The first floor is basically like kitchen and bathroom, big bathroom, big kitchen. I guess they're really banking on the fact that like whoever's going to stay here is going to be interested in like the eating and bathing aspects of it and any kind of like lounging is going to be outside, like maybe set up a chair outside. But there's no place where you can put your feet up here. And this one is basically, this bathroom is all shower. This is a big shower, which most people would be like, wow, you get a nice big shower for a tiny home. But she's like, ew. Oh my God. There's no tub. Why would I need a huge shower?

I mean, what am I going to have 10 people in here? And Juhi's like, um, that would be weird. I like that Judy's even sex shaming this girl. Like, come on, man. Can she like have some fun? The girl lived, Judy. She wasn't sex shaming her. She wasn't sex shaming her.

Juvie was saying it would be weird to conceptualize Bethany ever showering. I can't imagine you actually letting that water touch her skin. I know. She's like, I'm around you and I can't even get you to shower. How do you think you're going to get 10 people to shower? And then this one also, this one has a washer and dryer. And they're basically like, well, this one, we could rip out that washer and dryer and put a closet there instead because there's no closet space anywhere. So they're like, okay, well, what if we turn the washer and dryer into a closet?

It's like, yeah, but they have to do the laundromat thing. Yeah, I don't understand how you build a tiny home with no closets. That's crazy. And they have those stairs jutting out anywhere and those stairs are not storage or anything. I mean, this is just a bad thing. They're just big-ass stairs. It was terrible. It was a stupid design.

And why do the stairs have to be so chunky like that? Why can't they do like Carol Radzwell stairs, which are just kind of like slats that you just go down, right? Yeah. You know, or do like the first house and make them all storage, you know, that leads up to some place. Yeah.

Yeah, not so big and chunky. They're so mad. We're just put a ladder. Honestly, I don't understand why there's even a staircase in the first place. Yeah. So, my bathroom in Brooklyn,

well, I lived above the bathroom in Brooklyn in this like eight foot cubby hole. that you couldn't stand up in. So it just had like a twin mattress and then my 14-track recording task cam thing that I would do. And I had like one of those little office chairs that you kneel on

because an office chair couldn't fit in there. And I had a ladder, like an a frame ladder that I had to go up to that thing. Oh my God. Zena was terrified. My dog Zena at the time would be like, oh, Jesus, sweet, it's time for bed. Oh, God. And then she would just hang her head off the loft.

Like, please, somebody come save me. Please. Would you carry her up there? Is that how did that? Yeah. It just was, yeah. That's, yeah, I can't imagine that. That sounds crazy.

So, so, by the way, Jewie is so visibly disgusted. Like, she was already like so, like, you can see she hated just going into one tiny home. And then by the time they get to this one, she's like, do we, do we have to see three? I don't even know. Like, this one's just terrible for me. And they go up to the, they go up to the loft, the sleeping quarters, which they take one of these staircases. and Bethan is like, well, I guess it's what you'd expect from a loft, I guess. Julie's like, it's terrible.

You can't bang anyone up here. She's like, no, but you can paint stripes in bed and you can sort of sit up while you do it. She's like, no, no, no, no, no. This is bad. Yeah. Well, let's see. I should be more positive because I'm on TV and I'm trying to sell my little Juhi videos. So, oh, I like that there's two very small windows up here. So that's great. I guess that makes up for all the no space you have. Yeah, and Bethany's like, oh, yeah, there's windows. We can put nightstands up here. I could be the headboard.

Girl, you cannot put any of those things in here. And Julie is like, there's not even a bar here. You're going to fall off. And so they joke about falling off and stuff. And then Bethany's like, you'd think everything's dangerous, Julie. God. You remember that time I said, hey, let's go to Amsterdam and just sleep on the street by the river. You thought it was going to be dangerous. You're crazy.

Oh my God, look, there's such an adorable scorpion over there. Let's pet it. Oh, my God, Bethany. So the issue, one of the issues with this thing is that Bethany can't paint in this tiny house because the living room area,

there's no room to do anything because it's all staircase. It's nothing but staircase. It's so annoying. So she can't paint, which is probably for the, best because does she really need to be in a tiny home with paint fumes? I don't think so. Yeah. And now this is the biggest place, but because of how it's laid out, it's also the

smallest place. So they're like, nope, this is probably a now. So now they find a place to drink coffee, but Bethany has brought her coffee mug from home, which I think is very Bethany. She's like, can I have a cappuccino, but can I have it cheaper if you do it in this mug? Thanks. You know, can I say something? I'm using, so our lovely editor, Christina, she got me a she got me a gift certificate to blue bottle and I bought a blue bottle plastic cup and I'm showing it to you Ronnie

because we're not actually on video but it's a refillable cup and so what I do is I bring it to blue bottle and I'm like this is fun I've never done the reusable cup thing and I have so much fun every time I do it but every time I do it I also am so aware that everyone in the store is looking at me

like look at this fucking douchebag with this reusable blue bottle cup you're like look at me I'm saving the earth look at me I just come here so often. I just have to get my own. Actually, I'm using one today, a reusable cup. That's like one of those thermos type cups.

Yeah. That was given to us by At House of Brooker. And it's Salt Lake City. It has all the, from the season of Monica. Don't come after my bathtub. You look like a trampoline with eyes. So good. Yeah.

Arizona artist and free spirit Bethany is going tiny. So I guess she can spend more on premium coffee. Oh, wow. I think you're saving a lot of money with your from home. mug. Stupid idiot. Anyway, now she can travel the country and take her place with her. She and best friend Julie have seen several options

under $90,000, but they lack the luxuries that Bethany is after because Bethany's dumb. She thinks that she can get luxury in a tiny home. So today, they're trying again with builder Aaron McHaleas. Yeah, so Aaron's like, here she is, and here we

go. This one's nice. Now, this one's the nicest one, I think. This one is really cool on the outside. They put like cedar on the outside. And this one's only 250 square feet. So this is the smallest, right? But they have built a roof deck on it. And the roof deck is collapsible. So when you travel, it's easy to just fold it down. So I thought this one was really nice. Yeah. So the roof, what's cool is that you can just pack up those, you can pack up the railings. And that way you can just hit the road after you also find someplace for all the rugs and pillows you put up there.

if you're Bethany. So, yeah, this one was the nicest in terms of the vibe inside. This one had a lot of windows. It was very light, very airy.

And what I liked is that when you walked in, it was just open right there. Like there was, you could sort of do what you wanted with that space. So I was optimistic at first. Yeah,

I like this one. And they're like, oh my God, let's go check out the views. So they go up there, but it's wherever they're selling it is right by the freeway. And it's just like a shit view.

It's just shitty. Juhy won't even go up there. She's like, No, I'm afraid of heights, I guess. I'll just say that. I don't want to go up any staircase. I don't want to go up a ladder. And Bethany's like, but look, it's so stable.

Like pulling on the bars and stuff. Drewie's like, please die. So we see this, and then she loves, this one is the one with beams that you mentioned. This one is kind of a modern place. This one is, I think, what she's asking for. And doesn't this one have a tug too? Yeah, this one was designed, like, with a sense of style, actually.

Like, they actually, I feel like they put thought into really how to use it as a living space, not like, here's where we can put things. Except for this part. Well, they do have a tub, which is really cool. I never thought you could get a tub in a place like this. And it's a nice tub, like it's a glamorous kind of tub. But then they have kind of a step up, like a step down living room, right? And then so you use the above part for whatever.

But then the bottom part, you pull out all the drawers, but you pull them out into the living room. So you can't actually have any storage in there. I mean, you can't have any chairs in there because you couldn't get to the storage. Yeah, well, it seemed like a really cool idea. I was like, oh, look, this is great storage. And then Juhi's like, hey, idiot, every time you want to get into your storage, you have to move your sofa. And I don't think you want to do that.

God, can I fucking hate this girl? But, I mean, it truly is stupid. I was like, who would design that? Yeah, that's when I started to space that you can't, oh, you can't put furniture in because the drawers will hit the, oh, my God. That's when I started to say, oh, this place is like, looks nice at first, but has a lot of functional issues. So I started to be like, I'm not sure. I started to go back. house number one started to like become more appetizing to me and the only storage they had was this

kind of closet thing it's not even a closet but it's like a banister that divides the kitchen from the rest of the house but it doesn't even go to the top of the ceiling it's like banister level and they're like okay you could put some clothes in there girl you can't even fit a hanger in there come on there's also like no shelves there's no cabinets from the kitchen even though there's lots of bare walls they just didn't put anything in there so there's no place to put you know play things like that, like storage. There's no kitchen storage. The closet is really thin.

And then when they, Julie tells us, if Bethany wants to buy this house, she has to donate all of her clothes to go over budget or go over budget because she'll need that, okay? And let me tell you something. No thrift shop wants Bethany's clothes.

Okay, unless you want a bunch of silky, flimsy rags. Truly. And also the bathroom is this shape like from Aladdin, the movie Aladdin? It's like a Moroccan or. were like, yeah,

they went like Moroccan or Arabian. It's actually more of Arabian like doorway that's sort of like it's a curve I don't know how

I describe that curvature at the top of the door frame but it was sort of like it was definitely like a Moroccan restaurant you know like that would be like

an archway that you go through which is I guess nice for its style but not for this house like what do you make sense now why are you making this suddenly a Moroccan house

when you walk through to the bathroom it's weird random design choice but it has like a wood door that slides through it. So that's like, okay, I mean, sure, it wouldn't make me not buy the house.

It's just a curiosity, you know. Yeah, it's just odd with the styling. So then Bethany's like, oh, my gosh. I mean, I don't like that there's beautiful tiles in the kitchen because I really wanted to go make it my own. Bethany, they're builders. Just pick different tiles. Like, how many times do we have to tell you, girl?

They're builders. Yeah, or you can paint over it. You can do it. Be creative. So then they go up to the, loft and the loft has like a really low ceiling and they're basically like how she's her concern is that once she gets a mattress in there like will she even have any room she can't even sit up in there which i that was also where i thought that could be a problem like the given that the lofts are

always going to have a low ceiling this is a really low ceiling unless she does something really bohemian like skips a mattress and just puts down like like two inch mats or something like that which i could see her doing i could see her doing that too but she says yeah i'm a big sitter in the I don't sit in my bed, do you? Oh, I love sitting in my bed. But you know, I don't sit in as much, but I don't, I have one of those adjustable beds so you can like zoom it up like a hospital bed and I'll do that if my back hurts or something or if I'm watching TV, but I mean, I don't even know that I would consider that

sitting. But I don't like ever just sit in my bed. I don't sit on my bed as much anymore because since we have a town home and it's like, so there's like, because it's townhome, it's like three stories. And so to sit in your bed means you're all the way at the top for us. And then that means like, oh, if anything, you need anything, you have to go all the way down the staircase and go all the way back up the staircase. So I pretty much like once the day starts, I'm pretty much hanging out on the sofa. But I do, I do enjoy retiring up to the bedroom. And I do have days where I just, I do sit on the bed. But what I have is I have like a big, I got a big pillow from Target like 15 or 20 years ago. Actually, it's from Kmart. Now that I think about it, it was from Kmart. It's that old. And I just have a big old Euro sham on it. And I just sort of, I prop it up behind me and I sit up. I, you know, get to work on the laptop or watching TV or something. It's great.

So you're a bed sitter. They do exist. Yeah. I'm a bed liar. If I'm in bed, I'm lying. I have five pillows. One is a body pillow on one side of me. Then the other's a shorter.

It's like a king-sized pillow. So not as long because Bueller needs somewhere to cuddle below that. And then I have two above where I can rest my arms when I'm cuddling on my side, you know? And then one is put behind my head. I have a whole, that's a whole infrastructure in there. Yeah. So Bethany says, you know, I'm a bit concerned about the loft area. I did want a ground floor bedroom.

And it just would be impossible to wake up and nod at my head in the morning when a mattress is up there. So like you want a ground floor bedroom, a tub on the ground floor and a kitchen and a place to paint all on the ground floor. Yeah. Well, I've got a delivery for you and open it up. It's disappointment because you're not getting all that. So we go through all the houses and they're trying to decide. And Juhi is just like, please get better taste. Like just get a better goal in life, you know.

So they end up picking, don't, don, don't. I love that like house number one was like, we had some practical thing. Like, the way they said it was like, house number one has like good layout. House number two has big kitchen. House number three, bathtub. She's like, well, it's going to be the bathtub. The bathtub is going to win. She picked the bathtub.

I don't think this was the most practical, but it was the best looking and it had the roof deck, which I think would be the most important part. And she's smartened up. She's like, I don't care if I can't get to my storage. I'll get hanging chairs. So now she just has these kind of swing chairs. She did an amazing job. She did such a good job that I think that they actually, like, they shortened the deliberations.

That way they could spend more time showing what she did because she had swinging chairs, which meant that the storage could open up, as you said. She built a little banquette, which looked really cute. She made her roof deck look really cute. She built in these cool shelves in the kitchen with, like, piping underneath it. That was, like, kind of rustic. I loved her decorations. It seemed very her.

And at the end of the day, I mean, I do feel, like, this was a nice one. And I think she made the right choice, and she made it look really cute. And I kind of felt like, you know what, Bethany? I think Bethany knew what she was doing. I think Bethany did a good job on this, too. and I did not believe in Bethany. But she does say, she's like, you know, everything's possible. I got a full-size kitchen.

I mean, I have everything I need here. And I'm in Southern California because fuck Phoenix. Yeah. So she made it all work and it looked great. So I was impressed. It was a good job. I actually was too. Yeah, I was too.

It kind of re-added my want of a tiny helm. I was like it looked really good. And like I thought, I thought house number one was going to be the one she was ultimately going to take because, yes, even though the kitchen was kind of dreary, it did have space and I had windows and I had a first floor bedroom and everything. But I really didn't think that living situation was she was going to be able to deal with it. But it just looks so cute in there when she was done with it. I know. I agree.

Good job, Bethany. You're weird. Good job, Bethany. We take it all back. Yeah. I take nothing back, but good job in the end. Thanks, everyone, for being here. If you have a suggestion, go email us at watchwrapins.com.

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