Watch What Crappens - Ep Title: #2365 RHOP, Part 1: Mama Mia!

Episode Date: March 25, 2024

*This is part 1 of a two-part recapThe Real Housewives of Potomac (S08E18) ends with a wild scene from Mia and Gordon.  We’re still processing!  This is a two parter.  Keep a...n eye out for part 2 in our feed! Grab tickets for the Netflix is a Joke Fest in LA and our European tour at watchwhatcrappens.com Watch this recap as a video and get our bonus episodes at Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to Watch for Crappins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the one and only Ronnie Karam. Hi Ronnie, how are you? Well hi little Ben. How are you today, little city slicker? Yeah, I'm a city slicker today. I'm broadcasting live from New York City.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Those who watch and crap is on demand can see sort of a building behind me. It's actually a beautiful scene, but of course the light is being blowing it all out. So you can only see sort of like the makings of one little, little facade right there. But, um, uh, yeah, I'm here in New York. Uh, hopefully my audio is, does not sound too janky. I apologize ahead of time. But you know, I've got my travel kit going on. What's going on with you, Ronnie? Well, I cut myself shaving the other day. No, I do not have a big whatever this is on my upper lip under my nose just in case
Starting point is 00:01:18 people are distracted. That's what it was. You know what, sometimes I groom. Okay, and I did Friday. And now look what happens. this is why I only do it every once in a while I just get too excited guys too excited while I'm shaving okay I try and get every little spot do you ever shave where you just do this with the razor you go up and down really fast like you're scrubbing with a razor well like a like a what type of razor which like electric one one of those 500 blade ones where it's like we've got 97 blades on this razor but like a but like it's like a manual or like a electric one manual oh my goodness now
Starting point is 00:01:55 i've never scrubbed with like a go like this and it i don't know i'll do like a little i just went sideways on accident i usually go like sideways well I never go up and down like that. I can do like several down, down, down. No, I go up and down. You go up and down. You're tough. I'm not great at it. But anyway, so that's that.
Starting point is 00:02:14 What else happened? It's Monday. So it's huge news. I mean, actually we've got, we should probably not talk about our lame stuff and talk about what's actually going on on Bravo. The shaving techniques. That's what this podcast is about.
Starting point is 00:02:26 But we do have stuff coming up. European tour, London, Birmingham, Dublin in May. Also, we're gonna be in LA in May for a little intimate show for the Netflix Comedy Festival, which will be fun. Go get tickets for all that stuff at watchwhatcrappens.com. Also, this is a video as usual on Patreon. And we have a bonus episode coming up this week,
Starting point is 00:02:45 which is gonna be super fun. The last one was Top Chef. So we talked about the new season a little bit. So go check that out on our Patreon. Thanks for being here. We love you guys. Big news today in Potomac land. They're shaking it up over there.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Candice Dillard, Bassett, Exit, Real Housewives of Potomac after six seasons. I'm filled with gratitude, she says. Yeah, I can see that one coming. She also says, this is not a farewell, but a see you later. No, goodbye. Everybody stop with this.
Starting point is 00:03:15 I'm coming back. Stop it. That's not how you leave a job. Here's how you leave a job. Fuck you. Fuck you. Never liked your stupid ass. And I know it was you eating my shit out of the fucking
Starting point is 00:03:28 refrigerator in the office too. I know it was you. Yeah, that is and it feels like that's something Candace would be capable of doing. But I'm not surprised, you know, something had to get between Candace and Giselle. And on top of that, I felt like Candace was a bit checked out this season. I think that she is really focused on her music career. You could just sort of tell. And so this is not surprising.
Starting point is 00:03:53 And I think it's probably for the best, probably best for her mental health, because I think being around these women was probably like draining her. And you know, God bless. Here's the thing, I think that that's all very nice what you just said, lovely sentiments. Thank you. Here's what I've seen. I don't know why I'm imagining
Starting point is 00:04:14 like she left my workplace. You know, like that's the sort of thing you say to someone who lives in your workplace. I don't know why I was getting here such a nice send off. You are really HRing it right now. You're like, you know what, this is best for you, Candace. You're like being a Captain Carrie right now. I'm only doing this for your own good.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Concentrate on your music, adventure. Not the right job, the right time. I think that's all lovely. We've known a lot of housewives now, right? Over the years, you know, we just meet so and so and Whozzy Flays and Flaherty Fleur. And we've known them when they're on The Housewives then we know them when they're off The Housewives.
Starting point is 00:04:48 And being off The Housewives has not improved anybody's mental health. I'll tell you that right now. They are still fucking crazy. And I think almost crazier because they are still holding onto it and they're still getting mad about stuff they're reading on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Like I think once you're in it, there's no escaping it, right? And I don't know that it's going to help her mental health. I do like that she's wording this all as if she wasn't fired. Do you think she wasn't fired? Because I don't know. Someone told me in the industry, I forget who said it. They'll just say old queen in the bar. I forget who said it. They'll just say old queen in the bar. Was it an old queen in a bar? It was an old queen in a bar said, anytime a real housewife says
Starting point is 00:05:29 that she is leaving the show or quitting, they're usually fired. And Bravo less than the same face. Well, Bethany said that. Is that your friend in the industry? Bethany Frankel. Bethany Frankel is your friend in the industry. Yeah, it's Bethany Frankel.
Starting point is 00:05:42 But in this case- I'm the only one who quit. I'm the only one who legit quit. Everybody else was fired. Only me. I said I quit. You've never heard those words out of another housewife except me.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Okay. Look, look at me. I'm eating this. I'm eating this Vaseline Intensive Care right now. It's delicious. I eat, I eat. Mmm. Gosh, good.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Wait, where was, oh, I was watching Bethany on her Instagram and she went into like a luggage store. She's like, look at all this luggage. Look at this, this is a bag, look at this bag. It's like a carry-on, it goes in the airplane. Look at this one, this is even bigger. Look at this, this fits everything.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Look at this, look at luggage these days. Wait, hold on one second. Tom, can you do me a favor? Can you bring me my big headphones? Thank you. On the bed. Ben's on a headphone journey today. Honestly, these headphones are not cutting it. They're so quiet. I'm gonna On the bed. Ben's on a headphone journey today. Honestly, these
Starting point is 00:06:25 headphones are not cutting it. They're so quiet. I'm gonna try the big ones again. I think that maybe I didn't plug them in all the way before because this is like like Ronnie you were so quiet right now to me. Okay. You know what? Take the vacation. That's what I say. You're finally you're finally in a place where I'm not yelling your fucking head off. I would say thank the Lord and just roll with it. But listen go on a monologue right now because I'm gonna switch out my headphones. So you talk.
Starting point is 00:06:49 All right, seriously, you know what? Do people still buy luggage without wheels on it? Like this is nuts. This is actually insane. I wanted to try this luggage but I'm not gonna take it off this. I'm not gonna take it off of the counter. Is there anybody who can get this luggage down for me?
Starting point is 00:07:01 All right, could you carry it for me if I hire you in the airport? That's funny, that's a joke. Why aren't you laughing? Why don't people laugh? Seriously though. But where are the rollers? Okay, I need rollers here.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Also, I know you're probably too poor to go on a Southwest or whatever. Whatever planes you guys use, okay? What do you put, lady who works here at the TJ Maxx, what do you put your luggage in? Your clothes in when you travel on the bus? Do you just put a trash bag? Can I assume it's a trash bag?
Starting point is 00:07:27 It's probably a trash bag. It's probably a dollar store trash bag, which is why it breaks in close fall over all over the sidewalk. Am I right? I'm right. That's how poor people are. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:07:37 I have no idea what you're talking about. I have no idea what you're talking about. I, the big ones are not working. I'm so sad. I just have to have a quiet headphones today. But that, I don't know what you just monologued about, but I really enjoyed watching you monologue on my end. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Okay. So, yeah, so we don't know if Candice was fired or if she quit. She's wording it like, well, I'm gonna come back. Which, I mean, I don't know if you're fired. Do people, I think Bravo just says that now to people, because it seems to really, they seem to really believe it and not do anything retaliatory once they're fired.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Like Dorinda really still believes she's gonna be on the cast of Real Housewives of New York again. Well, I think this allows Bravo to still have like a warm relationship with these people in case they wanna use them on an ultimate girls trip or, you know, Dorinda hosts a show on Radio Andy. So they find ways to repurpose them and also have them at BravoCon and everything. So they, Bravo, I think, does not want to burn
Starting point is 00:08:38 bridges. Not that it matters too much since they all come back anyway, unless you've, you know, Not that it matters too much since they all come back anyway, unless you've, you know, flame out fantastically like Brandi Glendale. But yeah, I was going to say they might keep good relationships with them so they don't get sued by them since there's like an ever expanding brigade of lawsuits. Also Candace is friends with Leah, at least she was on girls trip. So who knows, maybe she could jump on that bandwagon. And Candice has often voiced, um, what she believes are inequities in how she's treated on the show. And I would not be, she,
Starting point is 00:09:12 she could be one of those who goes over to the reality reckoning side. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. She might join the Leah bandwagon. Um, now I'm not accusing her of anything. I don't know if she will. I'm just saying, you know, I don't know if she will. I'm just saying, you know, there's other options. There's other options for income. There's lawsuits. There's so many, there's girls' trip.
Starting point is 00:09:31 There's lawsuits. I mean, so many things going on. There's such a world beyond Real Housewives, but what a journey she had. I remember she came on and her first season, she was just like this nice pageant girl whose biggest concern was that like she wasn't fitting in and she would try to talk and wasn't connecting with people
Starting point is 00:09:50 and like, why wouldn't people listen? And then the next year she came in and was like, okay, I'm gonna change my personality. Cause she had like one fight in her first season and it was really good. So her next season she came in as like, okay, I'm going to now change my personality and I'm gonna fight with everyone. And that is the Candace that we now know and love.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Well, love is a strong word. Love. The Candace we know and know. Have loved, have loved now and then, you know? Cause that's the journey, isn't it? With anybody on TV. It's like, sometimes you love, sometimes you don't. Just, I mean, I think she's been okay.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I think she's, like you said, checked out quite a bit. So, bye. You know what? Anybody who is part of this season, I feel like if this season, if everybody got fired, I would understand, except Mia. I think Mia's actually bringing things, especially today.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Mia's cheating. She's fucking up her life. She's fucking up her relationship, probably her kids. And that's what we want on it. Mia is a total disaster. And she did this crazy swan dive here at the end of the season into messiness. It wasn't even a swan dive was it it was something it was like somebody slowly dipping their pool into the mess. The the life
Starting point is 00:11:00 explosion. We watched it all season and she admitted it was going on all season and people are just like, oh, that's just Mia. No, I mean, Mia was telling us the whole season exactly what her ass was up to. We didn't listen. But there's other breaking news here, Ben. What's that? It's not just Candace.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Robin has also announced. Is it right now? That must have happened right now, huh? It happened, well, when I took the screenshot at 9.45 a.m., it had happened 16 minutes ago. Well, it had been posted on Best of Bravo 16 minutes before. That's exactly what I had gone to. You know it was posted on the Jasmine brand.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I just don't know. The Jasmine brand as featured on the Dr. Wendy show. You know, that's so interesting. I literally, I saw that Candice was leaving the show. I went downstairs to get some coffee. I came up here to set up my little station here. And that must have been during that time when I was distracted when this Robin News broke.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Yeah, so Robin's out and other breaking news. Oh my God, another breaking news? This isn't breaking, but it's breaking the law news. Karen. Oh yeah, we haven't even talked about this. Karen, the grand dom. Karen. Oh, you haven't even talked about this. Karen, the grand dame, who is a fence, our favorite fence, got into a wreck and was telling everybody, oh, you know, someone sorbed into her lane, whatever. Well, it turns out her ass was charged with DUI. And then of course in typical Karen fashion they said she smelled like alcohol.
Starting point is 00:12:29 She claimed one of the cops was wearing a shirt that said pay your taxes so she should be able to see the police force. I'm just kidding. They said she smelled like alcohol. She refused a breathalyzer which actually is good advice. I think that everybody should refuse. I think that that's what you're supposed to do is refuse a breathalyzer, which actually is good advice. I think that everybody should refuse. I think that that's what you're supposed to do, is refuse a breathalyzer. Unfortunately, she was charged with a DUI in the way. But January Jones did. And she, I know I'm just going on and on
Starting point is 00:12:54 about droning on and on, but she refused a breathalyzer. And then they, then when she released a statement finally, she was like, well, you know, my mother passed away and we're very close to Mother's Day. No, ma'am. Gross, not that your mother passed away, I mean, not sad. Gross of you to use that, man. You can't just keep using that and you drove drunk
Starting point is 00:13:15 and you can't just keep using your dead mom. And also, your mother is probably horrified in heaven right now that you just invoked her for a fucking drunk driving. That is so gross, Karen. And you know, I love some Karen, but that is really gross of her. Stop that and take responsibility.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Also Mother's Day isn't that like two months away? Unless she's talking about British Mother's Day, which happened very recently. Well, you know, as the Grand Dame, I feel they're connected to the English monarchy. Listen, it is Mother's Day somewhere. Much like it's five o'clock somewhere, it's Mother's Day somewhere. Much like it's five o'clock somewhere, it's Mother's Day somewhere.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Very, very exciting. Well, according to my calendars of the world, it is Mother's Day in Bhutan. So of course I got emotional. Wow. Look at that. It's also five o'clock in Bhutan. Cheers.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Let's have a drink. I'm giving the statement from an SUV on the freeway. You know, the roads in Bhutan are naturally very windy, so I just tried to empathize with what it's like to drive in that country on Mother's Day. So if I was swerving, I was merely trying to recapture the experience of driving on a beautiful old country Bhutanese road.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Bhutanese. You know, I'm trying to look up her statement because of course she took a screenshot of it and I think they said that they found they also found liquor in her not liquor in her car but like Shiner Bach. I think it was Shiner Bach. I remember thinking Shiner. She's got fucking bottles of Shiner. I love Shiner Bach. Yeah, but I just didn't see it. Don't drive with it. I saw the photos of like her tire marks like all over the median and everything like that and like the tree that she clipped.
Starting point is 00:14:53 You know, Karen's gonna have. She clipped. I love that we're just using clipped now whenever a real housewife drives drunk into something. I know. Well, I think that driving drunk and hitting trees is sort of a thing on Potomac. So she's just carrying the torch of Monique.
Starting point is 00:15:12 The Monique torch speaking of does this open the door for Monique to come home? It opens the door and then Karen's going to drive, drive right into that door and knock it off its hinges. Listen, if you're going to ride the fence, do it safely, Karen. This is not breaking news, but since I've got my phone open
Starting point is 00:15:32 because I'm looking for a tweet, this is a picture of Kyle Richards. Can everybody see it? Kyle busted. Not sure what's going on in this picture. A lot of surgery. She's got her hair in like a little girl barrette type style and her face, I I mean she really does look
Starting point is 00:15:47 like she's been pulled tight over something and she's wearing a tiny little pink backpack. And I sent it to you and one of our other friends and our friend wrote me back tell me, tell me you're dating a 12 year old without telling me you're dating a 12. I know. She is on her journey towards becoming Kim Zolciak. So we're very proud of her. I mean, she is on her journey towards becoming Kim Zolciak. So we're very proud of her. I mean, she's lucky she already has a lesbian storyline,
Starting point is 00:16:10 you know, under her belt. Next, she just has to find a football player. And you know, and then her daughters have to like go down a path of also insane surgery. Yeah. Okay, well here we are Potomac season finale. You can tell a lot, well here we are, Potomac season finale. You can tell a lot happened because here we are reading Instagram.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Let me, let's also say this was such a weird ass season finale, just the way it was edited and presented. Like it was just so strange. And then all of a sudden we pivot to the last 10 minutes of Mia and Gordon having like a really good scene. Like finally there was like a scene that was like Fascinating but what this is this whole season has been a total mess and this season finale to me like captured all of that But is that like if there was a season if there was a season finale on Bravo
Starting point is 00:16:59 They didn't involve bringing the cameras up because someone cheated on their spouse Is it even a season finale in 2023 or 2024? Is it just every show now? I know they're shameless. They're shameless over there. Like guys, we watch all your shows. You can't just do the same fucking thing on every show. It's like, yep. And then the cameras came back up three months later, right when the camera right when the show started to air shocker. Yeah, this stuff came out. Well, by the way, camera right when the show started to air shocker. Yeah. This stuff came out. Well, by the way, uh, I saw a tweet, uh, that was basically saying me and Gordon are,
Starting point is 00:17:34 are showing Robin and Juan how it's done. Meaning, basically saying that meaning that Robin and Juan clearly have these wild issues and then they just were tight lipped and pretend like everything was fine. And this could have been their season and it could have been actually a really interesting season watching them like hash all this stuff out. I guess they wanna protect their family, which is I guess a fair thing to do. But Robin and Juan, this could have been a great season,
Starting point is 00:17:58 but I think that Robin and Juan were, Robin was not giving anything. And you know, I always say, whenever you have someone who's not giving anything, it really has a domino effect on the whole cast. And I think it just inspires other people to not give stuff. Like, oh, you're not gonna be honest? Well, then I'm not.
Starting point is 00:18:16 If you're not gonna share your dirty laundry, then I'm not going to, because why should I be the only one to embarrass myself? Right. Whereas Mia's like, she lives in a town built on dirty laundry. Like her foundation is dirty laundry, you know? And I love it.
Starting point is 00:18:32 That is all it is. I also thought it was super fun with Mia's storyline that it wasn't someone else's fault because it's kind of flipping the script, right? Because on these Housewives shows, it's like, oh my God, is Maurice Yu cheating on Kyle? Oh my God, what did Carl do to Lindsay? Of course, now that we've seen the script, right? Because on these housewives shows, it's like, Oh, my God, is Maurizio cheating on Kyle? Oh, my God, what did Carl do to Lindsay? Of course, now that we've seen the show, we know that it's Lindsay, who's the aggressor. But still, the storyline is pretty much like, how does Lindsay get fucked over in this or scandal?
Starting point is 00:18:58 Obviously, it was Tom fucked over. And this one, I really love that this one's like, no, Mia's totally to blame and kind of trying to talk her way out of it but not even really she's just like yeah so what so what if I cheated on you I told you I was doing it yeah I think this is also a failure on the show's part because the show did weave in throughout the season that Mia and Gordon were having some issues. We know, we knew going into the season that they were breaking up, but I never felt like the show did a good job of developing intrigue around any of this.
Starting point is 00:19:37 So like, you know, we're just like, OK, shrug, they're going to break up. Who cares? We'll watch them go through another therapy session that's gonna be totally ineffective. Like, who cares? It was not like the slow car wreck that has been the summer house banter pump rules. How dare you call my car wreck slow? Sorry. I invented car wrecks.
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Starting point is 00:22:36 as in Gordon's right yeah you know it's like the least shocking thing to ever happen is and we've never been a man who used to pay ten,000 an hour to you at a strip club who can no longer get it up. Like, what are you gonna do? Like, there's only so many options. Yeah, it's not like they were a couple that we just like, for like, you know, and wrapped by their their love and their affair and their romance, we're like, they were forever couple like we never we were not there for their courtship and we just,
Starting point is 00:23:07 we've always found him to be kind of creepy and she's just like, uh, a sociopathical sociological, not sociological liar. She's a sociological liar. She loves about sociological trends. I can't believe her audacity. No, but she's, she's a, she's like a liar. She's a socio- socioeconomical liar. You know, if I have to hear one more lie about the minimum wage being raised, I swear. Yeah, but she's like, what is the phrase?
Starting point is 00:23:38 Why can't I think of the phrase? Pathological. Pathological. I was like, why am I saying sociological? Pathological, she's a pathological liar. She's she clearly married for money. And this and this guy is like a creep and we're supposed to care that their marriage fell apart. But then of course, this episode when we find out the details, it's like, wait a second. This is wild. Why are you giving us only five minutes of this for the whole season? This is so rude of you. It's actually amazing. And we'll talk about it later at the end,
Starting point is 00:24:07 but there were some twists and turns. Like she's the one who's assisting on Lee. I mean, there's just, okay. We'll get to that later. So for now we are still in the Muppet Wars of 2024. Debra has come back to the show, tried to start a fight. This is awesome, I'm breaking these. I'm so sorry I took so many screenshots today.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I literally have been in bed all weekend. Someone asked Ashley on her Instagram, Ashley, can you explain why you asked if the cameras were still rolling? I'm guessing that question was asked at the reunion. Ashley says, I wanted them to play regular music. We can only play cleared music while cameras are rolling. And we had so many guests asking when the bots would start. That actually makes sense to me. I think that makes
Starting point is 00:24:54 sense. That makes sense to me because the rest of this doesn't. So Deborah's come back, she started a fight. Ashley, we hear Ashley saying, are the cameras down? Are we done filming? Okay, great, we're done filming. And then this fight ensues. So it sounds like Ashley was saying, okay, the cameras are down, go kick her ass, Deborah, which doesn't make sense, because Ashley would want that to be on camera, right? That's the thing. Ashley, the way she moves, she would want that all to be on camera. I 100% agree. Unless she wanted Deborah to attack Candice and then for Candice to retaliate and then she could make it all that Candice was the aggressor and get Candice fired from the show.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Again I think she would want that all on camera. I think so too. She wants it on camera. Yeah just giving other options. Yeah no I agree but the way like Ashley at the end of the day, like she if it's going to be happening, it's going to happen on camera for her. She doesn't want it off camera. That's like a waste for her. That's not how she operates. Right. So at 956 production right filming mics was still on. And Deborah starts immediately after this Ashley thing. And she's
Starting point is 00:26:02 like, Candice, is there anything that you and I need to talk about, Candice? And Candice is saying, absolutely not. The help is talking to me. And the help was capitalized, which I really liked, because it was like they were talking about the movie. The movie, a little DVD walked up to her. Someone is doing lines about a shit pie to me, and I will not accept it.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Can you get the help away from me? And Deborah's like, you called me Sesame Street. You didn't say any of that in front of me. You didn't say any of that in front of me. And then Kieran was like, it's none of the please, none of the please. And Deborah's like, but you don't have anything to say in front of my face though, do you, right? But when I'm in front of you, you don't want to say anything, right?
Starting point is 00:26:42 She's so gross. No one has to say anything to your face. You weren't saying that her husband was trying to cheat on her with you to her face. You were saying that on camera behind everybody's back and you're not on this cast, you thirsty muppet, go away. Yeah, that's the thing. That's where Debra will always, always lose
Starting point is 00:26:59 is that she came onto this show and she held court and said that Eddie and Chris were making eyes at her. Well, Eddie was making eyes at women and that Chris was making eyes at her and was like looking her up and down like hmm and then we've seen that like debunked a million times. They love showing that footage of Chris literally not looking at her where they put the chiron up of Chris Chris not looking at Debra. So we know like her perception of reality is really not good.
Starting point is 00:27:30 She's like a liar, essentially. You used it four or five times today, that footage, and it cracked me up every time Debra tried it. You're a liar, so you lost all credibility. Like she shouldn't have gone up to Candace in the first place, but like if she were completely innocent in this situation, I can imagine a world where she's like, you've been calling
Starting point is 00:27:50 me a muppet on national TV. I'm not even on this show and I don't have a way to like, I don't have a voice on this show and now you're sitting here talking shit about me. Like shut the fuck up. Like, you know, defending herself in that way. I can, I can see a world where one, one would do that. But the truth is this though, you're not innocent in this situation.
Starting point is 00:28:07 You came in and you slandered her husband and she has a right to talk shit about you and call you a muppet. Also, you're kind of a muppet. Yeah, well, the discussion really doesn't even go to, do you have the right to say it? It's a housewife show. You have the right to say whatever you want,
Starting point is 00:28:20 but the throwing drinks on people and starting physical shit with people, yeah, you don't have a right to do that. And also, let's be honest, if you're gonna do that shit, like at least wait around to do it on camera, right? Like do it on camera, get some mileage out of it. Well that's the thing, like you're just not prepared for this, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:35 It's like someone who comes into an office job and just wants to write everything handwritten. Like type, you have to type. Like you're just not built for this job, is what I'm saying. You're not good at it, you know, you have to type. Like you're just not built for this job is what I'm saying. You're not good at it. You know, you're bad. You've been caught in lies
Starting point is 00:28:49 and you're just also bad at drama. Like who starts drama when the cameras are down? Idiots, you're an idiot. In other news, another screenshot. Another screenshot. Debra has said she will be back. Don't worry everybody. Debra will be back this summer. Debra, Don't worry everybody. She wasn't fired. Deborah will be back this summer.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Deborah, don't worry everybody. Deborah will be back any moment. Deborah will be back. So then we hear the sound of all the fighting and everything and guess what? Production cameras were brought back up in the aftermath of the altercation. So-
Starting point is 00:29:23 Are camera people on this channel ever allowed to just rest? Do they ever rest? Or I think camera people, like every time they take a nap, they're like, all right, it's time to bring the cameras back up, they're like, god damn it. Just testing you, just testing you. Just need the readiness there.
Starting point is 00:29:36 I think they need to start treating these cameras like, like, they need to treat these shows like you were a decky on Below Deck, which is that it doesn't matter what time of day it is, someone's got to have an eye on that anchor, okay? So someone's got to be on anchor watch. So those cameras go down, but we need one person on anchor watch, okay? Keep a camera rolling, just one camera, and get it in the Ubers. You know, Below Deck doesn't have this problem.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Below Deck has cameras everywhere, okay? And they get everything. They get every single thing. Learn from Below Deck. Learn from Below Deck, guys. So, we don't see all the fight. I saw the fight, like everybody else. My really good friend, who's an ex housewife, Sashoma Dia.
Starting point is 00:30:29 The most lethal of all the housewives. This was actually her sister, Tammy Z. Get it. That's funny. I didn't, I was like what? Tammy Z. It's funny, that's funny. I didn't, I was like what? Tammie Z. It's funny. So yeah, Tammie Z had some cell phone footage of this.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Did you watch it? I mean, yeah, of course. Well, obviously when it first happened. You're lucky I didn't download that shit and start replaying it on here, because you know that was my intention, right? I did not know that was your, I'm glad you said an intention.
Starting point is 00:31:05 But of course when it happened, I watched it. But now that we have greater context, everyone's been posting it again and we've all been watching it and seeing how- A lot of people in yellow suits, it was very confusing, right? There was Karen, there was Karen in her yellow suit. There was someone in there fighting with a yellow suit
Starting point is 00:31:24 that was blonde. Felt over. So I thought it was Karen, but then it wasn't Karen. It was somebody else. But then, I don't know, it's a confusing video because it's far back, which is why we need up close cameras. That's why we need these shot by professionals and not by people at the club.
Starting point is 00:31:38 So we can't have cell phone footage. So the funniest thing about this video, and it's funny because it didn't actually come to fruition, because it would have sucked if it came to fruition, because it really would have gotten Candace in trouble. Which was the drink was thrown, and Candace's first response is just to like grab a big bottle of champagne off the table.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Like it really just knocked the shit out of that route. Which I love that. That was gonna be like a back alley fight. Like I'm surprised she didn't break that champagne bottle against the wall and take that broken half with her hand and just like come at her like some, you know, cult movie of the, like the eighties,
Starting point is 00:32:12 like women in prison, you know? I just loved that. And then it turns out to be Sharice, her first reaction was no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm taking the bottle. Shasha saved her. Candice. Shasha saved her. Candice. Shasha saved her and Shasha made a good point
Starting point is 00:32:28 later in the episode, I have to say. Oh, I'll get to that breaking news later. I only have screenshots on my phone of this show today. That's all I've got. Wait, does Shasha re-breaking her foot count as literal breaking news? No, but there is Shasha news. There's Shasha news There's shosh on news. I'm failing at my job as a podcaster. You have scooped up all these amazing Potomac news articles. I want something. I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:55 let's see, I'm going to, how about I just make up something? Or yesterday, or the day before. Really? Never. Don't really do much. That's my point. Wait, here's some breaking news. Don't really do much. That's my point. Wait, here's some breaking news. Michael Dalby just ejaculated on a rubber ducky. Gross. Okay, so now everybody is going, now some people are going to the restroom.
Starting point is 00:33:15 That's where they've taken Kate. They've taken her to the restroom to calm her down. And of course, Wendy is the most upset over this. This has affected Wendy the most. So Wendy is off. We're all. This has affected Wendy the most. So Wendy is off, you know, we're all gonna have to find a way to apologize to Wendy in this episode
Starting point is 00:33:30 because Wendy is very bothered by this, everybody. So they go to the bathroom and someone's saying, call the ambulance. And Ashley's like, what happened? I just don't understand what happened. Of course, the person, Ashley, who started 90% of the fights on this show, never understands how anything happened.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Never understands. And then inside the bathroom, Kierna's telling Nekka what happened. And Nekka's like, Debra threw a drink on Candice, but she hit Kierna in the head. And- Ashley said, but she hit me in the head, I think. No, but NECA, NECA wasn't hit in the head though. I think the drink hit NECA.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Oh, the drink hit NECA, but then something happened. And then she also threw a glass at Kay's face, which got her later. Well, no, well what happened, right? Cause as far as we can tell is that there were, there was the words with Candice Deborah through the drink at, um, Candice, and then Kierna jumped in to push a bit like one version is that Kierna sort of pushed Deborah away to be like, stop it. Another version is Kierna took a punt, like swung at Deborah according to Deborah who is factually slippery and then then Deborah retaliated by bashing the glass against
Starting point is 00:34:53 Kierna's head. Yeah. So I think the initial thing was just a drink and then the glass came later but I don't know my only point the only reason I care is just to illustrate this point. Deborah can't even aim you know what? I mean like Deborah you suck. You're terrible at your fucking job You don't wait for the cameras to be up while you start this fight You lie constantly and you can't even aim a drink. I mean Jesus Christ Did you go to the Mia Thornton school of throwing drinks like who taught you to throw that drink girl? It didn't even come close. Yeah
Starting point is 00:35:23 so Then Ashley's talking to her hairstylist, Corey, and he's just saying that he picked up Deborah, and then Deborah was saying, oh my, like, oh my god, one of Wendy's friends touched me, I didn't touch her, I didn't touch her, so of course Deborah was acting like she didn't touch anyone. Well, actually, you know, Deborah's claiming
Starting point is 00:35:43 that she merely threw a drink, which is nothing, right? But like, it's like. There's nothing in there, guys. There's like, there's hardly anything in there. There's like, Kierna, hands on her. Stupid Debra. Poor Kierna, she had a rough season. She basically got diarrhea, no one checked on her,
Starting point is 00:36:00 and then she got bashed in the forehead with glass. Was she, yeah, she didn't have the best season. I will say this. I love, I think she's got a lot of careers. I think she's got promise. I think she will be back. She's gorgeous. And her look in that confessional is pretty amazing. Gorgeous. I feel like her personality. I try not to judge people like that. Like, Oh my God, you know why I like her? Cause she's gorgeous. I know. She really, every time they show her, I'm not gonna judge people like that. Like, oh my God, you know why I like her? Because she's gorgeous! I know.
Starting point is 00:36:25 And she really, every time they show her, I'm like, damn. I just worry that her personality is not, like, not where it needs to be to be a real housewife. Well, it takes time to warm up, and she did start a diarrhea fight. So, credit where credit is due. I can relate to that based on my last week. So anyway, Wendy's like, she's like,
Starting point is 00:36:47 I'm not doing this no more, I'm pissed, because this girl has no reason to have that shit off of me, and the producer is like, okay, she's talking to her mom, she's asking if she can talk to her mom, and so Kierno's like on the phone talking to her mom, and Karen's like trying to calm Wendy down and everything, like calm down, calm down.
Starting point is 00:37:04 We're like, I'm'm pissed I know you are but let's put her first let's do that I need to see the nearest hospital she's she's she's going to be alright now tell me something what is your name sweetheart are you actually on our cast is this true Wendy seems the most furious out of everybody about this like she's reacting the most do you think it's because Wendy's friends are accused of being in this fight? Because there, you know, something else we heard
Starting point is 00:37:30 this episode earlier, I forget who said it, it was like two lines ago and we're an hour into this recap, something like that, but somebody said that Wendy's friends started it with her. So do you think Wendy is just getting defensive because she knows her friends are gonna be accused? Because Wendy is like, why does she care so much? Because, don't forget, Deborah was the one
Starting point is 00:37:50 who tried to make it seem like Eddie was cheating. So Wendy does not like Deborah. Don't you remember last episode when they did a commercial break, when Deborah came up to Wendy, and it was like, is Wendy going to hug Deborah back? So she doesn't like Deborah. She thinks Deborah's a piece of shit. I mean, is Wendy going to hug Deborah back? So she doesn't like Deborah. She thinks Deborah's a piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:38:06 I mean, is she also capitalizing off of what Deborah called Eddie? Yes, but that's a whole other issue. So she doesn't, and she knows she's going to get dragged in for the second season in a row into some bullshit about the fighting. And she doesn't, I don't think she wants to have any part of it, especially not with this dodo.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Yeah, okay, that makes sense. So then back out at the bar, they're taking Deborah out and Candice is being restrained by her friends and she's taunting Deborah. She's like, whatever muppet. That's yelling at her as she goes. She calls her Grover. She's like, get out of here, Grover.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Which I think that's a very sweet That's actually nice one of Candice's nicest moments. Like she gave her a cute. She's like get out of here No, it's like you're making her like the cute muppets. You know what I mean? Make her Oscar or like animal. I Would say it's not falafel I guess but I believe that one was already taken by Heather Dubrow to Emily Simpson, but we already had a Snuffle Up against fight earlier this year. So we need to do a different one. But I do think that Grover is a little too nice.
Starting point is 00:39:15 I think it's like, I think that Deborah's like a, well, I don't think that Gonzo is on Sesame Street, but I think it would be fair to still call her Gonzo. I think she's definitely Gonzo. I think she's like a beaker. No, not a beaker. What's the doctor's name that beaker works with? She's a Bunsen. She might be Swedish chef like, um, in his off, off hours. Okay. So, um, Wendy's really, you know, go, oh, we already did that part. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:42 So now Candice is still yelling and they're like, Oh, my God, just calm down, Candace. And me it's like, Oh, you're fine, Candace, you're fine. Focus Candace. And then Deborah's, you know, trying to get more camera time as she's being called Grover and dragged out of there. And basically, they're trying to calm Candace down. And they're like, you're fine And Nekka's like, you're fine. You're fine. She goes, I am fine. I am fine. So then outside, Deborah is going off about her version
Starting point is 00:40:10 and she says she was arguing with Candice and she had just a little bit of a drink in her glass and she didn't throw, it's not like she threw the glass. She just threw the rest of the cocktail in her hair because she was calling her the help. And then out of nowhere, Kierna hits her in her face. And that's when she threw her glass. And then she's like, she what, she punched you?
Starting point is 00:40:30 And she's like, yes, in my face. And then that's when we got on the floor. And she's like, oh, fuck Debra. And then Debra's like, no, you're not gonna put hands on me and think I'm just gonna not say anything. I'm not gonna not do anything. Yeah. Yeah, so she's kind of pulled out of there, but looking at the cameras,
Starting point is 00:40:48 like she just nailed it. You did not just nail it. You're a failure. Yeah. And by the way, if, if Deborah's going to do the retaliation pull the retaliation card, which is like, she was saying such rude things to me, like I threw my, I threw a drink at her, but she started it. Well then you got hit in the face. Cause like if you're, you understand the logic that if you're going to go with the logic that someone's actions precipitated your actions,
Starting point is 00:41:17 then you have to realize that then your actions precipitated someone else's actions. So you should theoretically. Guys, chicken or the egg. Am I right? Chicken, am I right? Chicken or the egg, guys, that is the question. Commercials, here comes one right now. So then, inside the bathroom, the producer, they're taking care of Kate, who by the way, is bleeding. She has a bleeding face. She has a Kate, who by the way, is bleeding. She has a bleeding in her forehead. She was fucking bleeding. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:50 So they're basically all on her side because I think the one with the bloody face automatically wins because that's crazy. This is housewives. And I like later when she goes, she hit me in the face and she was like, this, can you imagine even trying to come for this gorgeous work of art? Yes, and so Karen was like, yeah, she threw like a dry hand canvas so I pushed her out of the way,
Starting point is 00:42:16 but then believe me, I don't even know what happened, but we were fighting and you hit me in the fucking head. And Karen was like, well, if she goes to the hospital, I want to talk to her mother and let her know where she is. Let her know what side of the fence she's on, AKA the other side of the me that she's on. Doesn't make sense, but I just wanted to use a fence analogy. It felt like an appropriate time.
Starting point is 00:42:39 But also, Karen's version is suspect too. Because she threw a drink on Candice and then I pushed her out of the way. In her face, were you pushing her in her face out of the way? What's the one that feels weird? Just like, blah. You will get out of the way.
Starting point is 00:42:55 I'm not sure because I can't tell in the video. Well, she made it seem like she just sort of moved her out of the way, but we saw the video. It was more than a push. She was just simply moving her out of the way. Simply just trying to displace her, trying to get her in a different region. But she's good at it, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:43:09 She's good at giving testimony or whatever because she's like, here's what happened. I barely even, not like stupid Debra, who's gonna be convicted in two seconds. He's like, oh, so I just had a little bit of the drink, so I threw it at her. And then she did this, so I threw a glass at her. Like, Deborah's the worst.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Kierna would just be like, well, I just slightly moved her out of the way and then tried to hand her a glass to drink out of. Because she seemed thirsty. That's how to do it. So, now Kierna's... Karen comes out of the bathroom like, everyone, everyone, Kierna's about to come out! Kierna's about to come out, clear a path, clear a path for the bloody girl.
Starting point is 00:43:47 So Kieran is- Face incoming! All right. All right, as a fence, it is my greatest duty to make sure I create a path for everyone. Look out, everyone. So, um. As someone called a fence,
Starting point is 00:44:04 there was a great defense that happened here tonight. Not unintended. Scuffle. Back in my day, this would have been solved with a good old fencing session, am I right? I'm like. Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, t Wendy is like, now they're all telling their stories now. Wendy's like, you know what? Before Deborah even says anything to Candice, I hear her saying something a little bit to Ashley and I can't make it out because of the music,
Starting point is 00:44:33 but it seemed like it had a lot of oomph to it. I was like, that's, what does that mean? What does that? No, I will, I reject that. That is not part of evidence. I'm not defending Deborah, but that's ridiculous. Sorry, that does not count. trying to suggest there was a conspiracy that went that as she told Deborah to go attack Candice
Starting point is 00:44:53 Yeah, but I couldn't hear it. Well, we heard it because there were mics and that's not really what happened Yeah, they would and they would have by the way if that had happened you for sure know that would have been on they Would have put that on the show. Yes. So then Mia is, Mia's like, I don't, who cares? You know, she's like, someone was saying something about, think about your children, I mean, whatever. And then Karen's like, well, this seems intentional
Starting point is 00:45:17 and attention seeking, intentional attention. Intentional attention, say that 10 times, all right? We're standing up, next thing I know, Deborah, Sesame Street, whatever they call her, she takes a drink, and then she throws the drink. She throws it to hit Candice. And at that point, and then we switch to Kay, and she's like, and at that point, I'm like pushing her back,
Starting point is 00:45:39 you know, that's when she does the motion. And then she says she turned around, she grabbed a glass, she hits her in her forehead, she's like, this face, that's when she does that, this face. So yeah, I think Team K on this one. Yeah, definitely. So Karen's like, well it's on- But notice nobody's story has them
Starting point is 00:45:56 rolling around on the ground. That's true, no one has a version where everyone, like three people fall onto the ground in this mess. Yes, and they're grabbing onto the hair and holding onto it. Like, nobody has all of that, which, I mean, I guess I don't blame them, but come on. If you're gonna do it, you can't just drip it to us.
Starting point is 00:46:13 I need the whole thing, guys. And this is like something about your season when it's better to watch the cell phone footage than the actual show that's sad, guys. So Karen gets gets the ambulance with Kierna to go to the hospital and she goes you know it's unfortunate I never want to see it again I think it's a lesson to all of us certain friends you can't mix with other friends I just don't know how I actually
Starting point is 00:46:36 missed that one it's unfortunate because Kay suffered the ramifications but don't worry I shall go with her to the hospital even though it increases my exposure to potential diarrhea by 95% Does anyone have a poncho? So cookie who's in this episode a lot get a lot of cookie this episode cookies out there telling Ashley What happened and now she's like well? I should have known better because this is this I knew that Deborah was gonna be a problem I mean that I should have known and cookies like it's not your fault Which is so funny because that's how cookies make me feel in general. That's why I eat them so much Whenever I'm feeling bad, I just have a cookie and I'm like this wasn't my fault
Starting point is 00:47:17 Yeah, all those all those little cookies are like Robin Williams and goodwill hunting. They're like, it's not your fault It's not your fault. I feel like if anybody wants people to like your child, you should name it Cookie, because Cookie can literally do no wrong. Her name is Cookie. I love her. I love Cookie. Yeah, but if you name your child Cookie,
Starting point is 00:47:37 just know it will grow up with a Bronx accent and blow very large bubblegum bubbles. What you want, mister? Oh, that's Cookie again. There goes Cookie. What What you want, mister? Oh, that's Cookie again. What's going on, mister? Wasn't there a movie called Cookie with like Peter Falk? Probably, but don't try and ruin Cookie for me. I'm like imagining all the children I could have.
Starting point is 00:47:58 They're all named Cookie. Or maybe if I have multiple ones, they could just be different kinds of Cookies. Your dream would be to have several, like you would, I feel like you would love to be the father to a little girl who had a Bronx accent and like a little attitude, like a little Cyndi Lauper. You would love that.
Starting point is 00:48:16 You would love to be the dad. You would love a reboot of girls just wanna have fun video and you could be the dad and be like little Cyndi Lauper and you'd be like, get in here cookie you know cookie this may work on all your teachers at school but it's not going to work on me. Get in here. Shut up dad you don't know anything. Daddy may not have much but he has the credit cards.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Get your ass in here. I'm the only one that cookie. Ronnie and Cookie. Ronnie and Cookie this fall on NBC Okay, so then we go to Let's see. They're just talking about this for a really long time Not as long as we are of course, we're 45 minutes in but Ashley is like saying Yeah
Starting point is 00:49:00 well I didn't really have like candies on the forefront of my mind when I think about Deborah because like I feel like these are Like two grown women who like they don't mesh fine But like it's like the club is huge and like there's no need for everyone to be feeling like pressure like so-and-so's here And like I have been in a room. Okay, whatever like yes, it's true. They are adults and yes, it's a large room They don't have to mix or talk with each other But you know what you could do is you could say to Debra, listen, you should apologize to Candice
Starting point is 00:49:27 for what you said last season, because that was bullshit. Or you could say, don't you dare go up to like, stay away from her or something. You could do something. Or just not invite her in the first place, because you knew it was going to start drama. And you knew if you claim to care about Candice, that like Debra, if you only know know Deborah in one context, but you know,
Starting point is 00:49:47 can't you've known Candace for six years and many different contexts and you're going to claim that you actually care about Candace, then, uh, you probably should not invite Deborah. Okay. Yeah. So then we go, I'm, I'm tired of this fight. It's like, so don't dismiss my rant. No, I'm not dismissing your rant. I'm just, I think it was true. Everything you just said was completely true. I just hit that wall with it where I'm like, okay, I'm tired of this fight.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Did you move on now? Would you say that you were, you were mentally in a Karen Huger place just hitting walls? Only because I care about my mother so much. Guys, this fight just doesn't, I mean no pun intended, but this fight really just doesn't pack a punch. It was kind of boring and it was Debra who we don't care about.
Starting point is 00:50:37 And even at the end when Wendy and Karen really try and lecture everybody about this fight, they tried to do like they did in the Monique and Candice fight season, where Giselle, like remember when Giselle brought her bodyguard because she's gonna be around Monique, and then they lectured everyone about, how could you do this to the movement and to the people?
Starting point is 00:50:56 And it became this huge lecture and everybody had to get lectured about it. And Karen and Witty both try it this time and everybody just looks at them like, we've already sat through this and we're not gonna sit through this again. You two need to go figure something else out. Nobody cares. Yeah. So then so we the the fight last like this scene with the fight last maybe the first like seven minutes of the episode five to seven minutes and then
Starting point is 00:51:19 we go to this monarch party this partyarch magazine, where everyone got to take photos in the style of a female black icon. It was very like, and TM. Everyone except for NECA. I'm like, NECA, no, you don't get to take a photo like someone, which- He just thinks they are too new. So he's not gonna have- know, too new to me.
Starting point is 00:51:47 So what this really means is that we're going to get 15 minutes of people showing up with slow motion to this party for Monarch magazine. Now here's how I know this is not a town for me. The stairs. Is there a place that they go to without stairs? I mean, every single fucking place they go to on this show, and by the way, every place that we go to
Starting point is 00:52:11 when we're there is also a five-floor stairs. Huge, big stair town. Like we went, we did a show in DC, I think our first DC show, and we did an after party at like a beer garden, and there was a monster staircase to get to that beer garden. It's not okay. It's just not okay. I'm either down with
Starting point is 00:52:27 upstairs or down with escalators. Sorry I was talking over you because my headphones are quiet so I couldn't. I have no choice. I never stop. I'm just gonna sit here and talk about 30 minutes about me and my daughter Cookie trying to make it up flights of stairs and then Cookie tried to drag me. I still couldn't make it. Poor cookie doesn't have the upper body strength. Um, remember Karen got a, uh, at one of her, like, uh, vow renewals or whatever that was at a, uh, a strange event space that had an enormous staircase and like she was up at the top of a staircase and everyone else was at the bottom. But the whole thing was also
Starting point is 00:53:04 like an industrial park. Not that it was so strange. Yeah of a staircase and everyone else was at the bottom. But the whole thing was also like an industrial park. It was so strange. Yeah. Big staircase energy in this town. It's a staircase show. Okay. So now all these photos of these women are up. None of them have anything to do with any of the women they're supposed to be, which
Starting point is 00:53:18 is hilarious. I'm not like, like you see this stuff in something like Vanity Fair a lot where they'll recreate certain things and they look amazing. I just saw one that was like a 30s recreation of 42nd Street, but with like all the famous actors of that moment. I was making a vision board, so it was like not recent. But it was like Kristen Ritter was one of the dancing girls
Starting point is 00:53:41 and Emma Stone was one of the vicious girls waiting to take over the role. It was so good, it was so well done. This one's not that. I don't know who they're supposed to be. There's no markers, you know what I mean? There are hints. I mean, it's not like,
Starting point is 00:53:58 it's not like, you know, Dorothy Dandridge was like dressed with like, you know, in overalls. So like there definitely was like an attempt like, you know, in overalls. So like there definitely was like an attempt and there's like visual hints and cues, but it just the, they may not have like stuck the landing on all of them.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Okay, yeah. So yeah, I didn't get it. And guess who else doesn't get it? Zaza. So Zaza comes down the stairs and unfortunately, I brought my hoverboard but it doesn't go on the stairs. So fortunately I'm gonna have to wear my boot. Somehow Sasa has hurt her foot.
Starting point is 00:54:34 And I don't know, and you know also who doesn't know how? Cookie, Cookie doesn't know how. Cookie's here, Cookie's always here now. Hi Cookie, love you, love you Cookie. Cookie's in her room, talking on her phone on her bed with her feet up in the air. Shasha's like, oh, who's that? Is that Dorothy Dandruff?
Starting point is 00:54:53 Cause I think it's Dorothy Dandruff. Oh, Karen, is the Marilyn Monroe? Is that a pun? I don't get it. Is that a pun? Black icon Marilyn Monroe. And so she's trying to guess who everybody is and doesn't guess any of them, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:09 which you can blame her. So then Cookie and Karen are making small talk about the boot and Karen doesn't care because she still hates Shabise. And then Ashley comes and you know, it's a lot of hellos. We don't need to go over every single hello thing. But then we see that Ashley has found out more information about this Deborah fight and she's not happy with Deborah
Starting point is 00:55:32 because there's an article or an Instagram post, I don't know, something that she said, oh, really, you left your nail in my real ponytail that you unsuccessfully could not rip out. Let me know if you'd like it back. Now let someone leak that. PS, did you enjoy your ambulance ride? Ouch.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Well, yeah, she goes, punch me in my face first. No, ma'am. So Ashley's basically like, you know, after seeing the social media stuff and after Debra was really doubling down and that sort of antagonizing, I decided to really put a pause on my friendship with Deborah a lapse of judgment is one thing it's really how you act moving forward and I
Starting point is 00:56:10 can't get down with that yeah you probably should have stopped getting down with that last season when you saw that she fully lied about your cast members husbands that was so unacceptable and Ashley's like ashes still brought her around Yeah, but I mean look Deborah's still the one who hit somebody so fuck Deborah. That's what I say. I still forgive you Ashley So forgive you Ashley, okay Well, no, this is basically bringing it on a muppet to do your dirty work I mean that's housewives are e house wife are we when you're like, I want to start some shit with Candice
Starting point is 00:56:42 I'm gonna do it through this lady in my mommy and me group so I don't get in trouble. Like, to me, that's doing your job, you know? And on a season where literally nobody does theirs, I have to say, at least she did something. She didn't hit anybody, Debra did. Damn you, Debra, down with Debra! Also, Debra, you just confessed again
Starting point is 00:56:58 about stealing somebody's fingernail. I mean, what the hell? You still suck at this, Debra! People on Twitter want Ashley fired. They're like they always want Ashley fired. Ashley's making an effort. So I say keeper I mean she just she just really massively miscalculated on this one and this is her way of saying like oops I tried I tried to do something it didn't really work out. So don't worry, I'm not really friends with her.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Please don't be mad at me. And of course, she does the Bravo style. She doesn't say I'm not friends with her anymore. She says she puts that friendship on pause. It's a very Bravo way. Deborah, our friendship was on pause, but wait until our birthday parties next year. We'll see you again. We'll reconsider. So Karen's asking Ashley if she liked her picture and Ashley's basically like,
Starting point is 00:57:50 no, it's not the one I would have picked. And it turns out that it was Mia who got to choose all the photos, which is hilarious. Because of course Mia's gonna choose the least flattering photos of everyone but herself. I mean, I thought everybody's picture was really pretty, but I don't take good pictures.
Starting point is 00:58:04 So I just look at everybody else's picture and I'm like, that is so beautiful. I wish I could do that. So I was impressed with everybody's. So then, and also this didn't become a fight, so it was like another wasted thread of like, I'm gonna get Mia for choosing a bad picture of me. But nothing came of that.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I know it's a shocker after the season. Nothing comes of that. And also she got a shocker after the season. Nothing comes of that. And also she got you a magazine shoot, so shut up. So then more people come in and more people say hi and more people squeal about it, super cute. Giselle's super sad because she's talking about her father who went into brain surgery. And then Sharit slumps over to the table
Starting point is 00:58:41 and talks to Karen and Cookie. And she tells them she's not really sure. So they ask, what happened to your foot? And she's like, well, Candice got into an argument with that girl. Then the girl threw a drink at her. And then Candice grabs her champagne bottle. So I grabbed the champagne bottle. Then I sit down on my couch in the champagne room and I said, let's have a conversation. Cause the breaking news is I have a new podcast
Starting point is 00:59:07 called conversations in the champagne room. Thank you. That's the breaking news on Sharice. She has a new podcast called conversations in the champagne room. As I just said, I'm just going to repeat myself until people get super excited. Wow.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Conversations in the champagne room. Nobody nobody nobody Wow Conversations in the champagne room while my mama have a boy Shoshester The first podcast recorded entirely on a hoverboard She is really trying to still make that champagne room be a thing, huh? That little cubby hole, that renovated pantry
Starting point is 00:59:53 that she turned into a champagne room. She's just, that's her thing. And I love that someone bases their personality done on like a storyline remodel, you know what I mean? Confessions in the converted garage. Join me. Remember, didn't Chris Rock have that song or that thing like,
Starting point is 01:00:12 no sex in the champagne room or something like that? There was like that comedy song that came out. When I hear champagne room, I just think of the back room at a strip club. And so the fact that she's like, I have a champagne room and it's just off the side of my kitchen. It's like, I don't know, Shasha.
Starting point is 01:00:29 You may have missed a mark on this one. You wanna go in the thampine room? I'm gonna have a Snickers room. You just go in there and you just enjoy Snickers together. That's all you can have in there. I hope you really do make that, because next time I come visit you,
Starting point is 01:00:47 I would like to spend some time in the Snickers room. I'll be like, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. No watching McCall. It's allowed, Mr. This is the Snickers room. Snickers only. I have a question. Are ice cream Snickers allowed? They are allowed. There are Snickers. They, they kind of, well, here's a question. Would a Milky way or three musketeers be allowed in the Snickers room as they not the Mars room, it's the Snickers room. Well, given that they are basically just like the sadder
Starting point is 01:01:11 younger brothers of Snickers, you know, like they're the the less less mature. What? How dare you Milky Ways are not that you know, I actually went to cost plus world market, and I got a European Milky Way, just so I could have the real sugar with it. And let me just tell you that it's overrated. Real sugar's overrated. Bring on the corn syrup. It didn't taste that much better than corn syrup.
Starting point is 01:01:35 So bring on the farming industry, I say. Milky Ways are very nice. I haven't had one in forever because I've really become such a Snickers person. When I was younger, I did not like Snickers. I thought the nuts were too much and I thought Milky Ways were the best. But I think we can all agree that three musketeers are the saddest though. It just feels like they're lacking. Yeah, I don't like those. I do love a Milky Way.
Starting point is 01:01:55 They're good. Here's the best way to have a Milky Way. Put it in the freezer and then eat it that way. You'll lose some teeth, but goddamn it's good. You know what's surprisingly good that I have not had in so long, but I feel like I had one recently and I was like, damn, these are really good. I feel like I should, I should sort of like weave them into my candy bar impulse purchases at the supermarket more. Mounds, mounds and Almond Joy. They're really good. Mounds, Mounds and Almond Joy. They're really good.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Yeah, I like an Almond Joy. Mounds, I don't think, it's been a long time. Mounds. Okay, let's move on because this episode is gonna kill me. It's gonna be 19 hours long. Why do I feel like this candy bar discussion is more interesting than half of the season finale? Hello there, this is a two part recap, okay?
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