Watch What Crappens - Family Karma: Catching Up with Anisha!

Episode Date: December 29, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:52 Happy New Year! Happy New Year! Happy New Year! Happy New Year! Happy New Year! Happy New Year! Happy New Year! Happy New Year! Happy New Year! Happy New Year! Welcome to Watch Rock Grapans! As you can see, we have a beautiful guest today. Amisha for Family Karma. Hello, Anisha. Thank you so much for having me and I listened to your podcast episode on Family
Starting point is 00:01:13 Karma and I'm so grateful to you guys for talking about our show. We exist. Yes, you do exist. You guys are doing well this year, right? I mean, I feel like you guys are doing a lot better this year I'm really glad they brought you back and it's bravo is letting you guys really grow like you should I mean your show deserves a lot of growth. Yeah, we are definitely a sleeper hit I don't think people realize how good our ratings are really shows So like so I'm a sleeper. So like I really appreciate a sleeper hit. It's doing really well.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Yeah, it's on par with like winter house and all that stuff. I was like, we have better meetings if I make it. Yes. A girl. Coming in with the statistic. Yeah, do. You guys, I mean, you guys are really a really great show. We actually, we first heard about you, the family karma.
Starting point is 00:02:05 We were talking with someone who was associated with the show, maybe about nine or 10 months before you guys ever made it to air. Wow. He was like, oh, we've got this great show coming down the pipeline. It's called Family Karma. We met these amazing families down in Miami. It's hard. You just have to see it.
Starting point is 00:02:23 So when you guys came on the air, I don't, I have persons very excited just because I had heard what this person had said. And like, I mean, you guys have a great show. It's, I think it's lived up 100% to the height. It's exactly how you described it. We're normal people, and we're on reality TV, and we're like, we're on reality TV.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Yeah. You don't, you guys don't read like reality stars you guys read like like like Nice people who just happen to have cameras around them and you guys are just like nice and like funny And which is why sometimes it's hard for us because it's like normally we just like go in on people We're like well fuck them It's like oh Everybody in New York's so nice. And I have to congratulate all of you. I mean, you're the first reality cast I've ever seen
Starting point is 00:03:11 that is in its third season and no one got a crazy face. Because that's what we really look for too. It's like, who's gonna get the craziest face and we take bets and stuff. And you guys are just like all still yourselves. Like, there's no Brazilian betlifts coming through. No, no. I would say that you had the best makeover but it wasn't like plastic surgery and stuff. No, you just made yourself up. I lost 30 pounds. I lost 30 pounds. No, really? Everyone's like you look different and I talk about it all the time but I just lost 30 pounds and I was already slim to begin with, but I started just eating mostly plant-based.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Like obviously, Ellie, whatever on a restaurant, but day to day, just I was getting a lot of migraines, IBS, not to get too into it, but a lot of that just kind of went away on a plant-based diet. How gross. You started that, just kidding. Exactly, I'm like, I hate being that crunchy,
Starting point is 00:04:03 granola person, because I'm a fruity, but now, you know, it's just, you know, my greens are tough, so it's worth it. Yeah, I do pescatarian stuff. I don't really eat fish unless I'm in a restaurant. There's nothing else, which I'm in Texas, so that is often the case. But I'm like, I'm fatter than ever, but I think it's mostly because, like, you know, pizza's a plant. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, think it's mostly because like, you know, pizza's a plant.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Bagels are a plant. I can stuff in there. Do we just like redefine what are plants that'll really help? I just find misplaced. Where in Texas, because you know, I just got married and my husband's from Texas, from Dallas. Oh, he's fancy Texas. I'm in like liberal hippie Texas. I'm in Austin. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:44 I'm going to Dallas in two hours. That's where I'm going. Oh, no. You should wait until I'm in like liberal hippie Texas. I'm in Austin. Okay, I'm going to Dallas in two hours. That's where I'm going. Oh, no, wait. You should wait until you're running. Wait, so when did you, you got married very recently, right? I got married a month ago. Wow. And were there, was it on, gonna be on the show or not? No. No. I mean, you said your husband's private. Doesn't not like it. Husband's private and also doesn't want to be on TV.
Starting point is 00:05:05 But if we're being quite frank, I don't think I would have ever had a TV wedding. Mm-hmm. It doesn't seem that much TV. It honestly doesn't seem to be that much fun to have a TV wedding. No, it's a lot. It's a lot.
Starting point is 00:05:18 And there's cameras. And I had a small intimate wedding with 20 people in my backyard. It wasn't a five day excursion to my soul. No, I was like normalized the 24 hour Indian wedding. So now you know, you heard on the show that I have a problem with your husband already, okay? What the hell?
Starting point is 00:05:39 What is he holding you back? So how did that happen? He knew that you were on the show, right? Obviously from dating. And was he just like, yeah, no. He said, you go do whatever the hell you want. Be on the show. All you're if you need to be, I just don't want to be on it. Yeah. How does Bravo feel about? Are they trying to get him on to the show? No, I'm very grateful that, you know, it was none of that. It was more, you know, he doesn't want to be on TV and so you
Starting point is 00:06:07 can't force someone to be on TV. Oh my ass you can't. You've ever been to a home goods you're always on TV. Just take the footage from wherever he is. He's also never really there. So even if I say you were on the show you wouldn't be there to film. You just hire someone and be like, oh, everyone, this is my husband. Like a standing love face. Yeah, you could have your own Darren. You know, you could have your additional cast Darren in my hand. Exactly. But I moved the week we started filming. So that was how. Did you find out like last minute that you were going to be filming? Yes, because this whole time we thought we were going to be moving to Dallas and then he got
Starting point is 00:06:51 an incredible opportunity in Scottsdale. So I found out two weeks before. How do you like Scottsdale? I actually love it. It's a little bubble. It's just far, but it's a beautiful place, amazing people. Everyone's been so nice, and in my condo building, so many Bravo fans, which is really... Really? Yeah, I see people all the time. I see more people here that watch Family Karma than in Miami. Well, so then, so now, because you're in Scottsdale so much, I feel like you have not been on the show as much. In the first two seasons, I feel like you were actually almost like the center of the show you were kind of like our voice of reason
Starting point is 00:07:28 You were kind of like our Bethany Frankel back and when Bethany Frankel was not a monster Yeah, you know, and so this season I feel like we're not seeing you as much and I actually am really feeling Like I'm feeling it. I'm feeling like I want more Anisha on the show. I mean, is this... Can you get on more flights? Like how do we fix this? No, I was there. I was there a lot But there were some periods like two to three weeks where like I couldn't be there and there's more to come You'll see why I wasn't in the last you know two episodes. You'll see why there's an explanation Okay, yeah, they're better be because what happens? It's kind of shady.
Starting point is 00:08:06 So stay to. Oh, really? What happens? What happens? Because I could have been there. Really? So maybe you'll have to see why I like you. Oh, they're tricking you and telling you the wrong dates.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Like, well, if you get the wrong cheat, it has nothing to do with production. It's our friend group. Yeah, well, do you see people change as filming goes on? Because your lips are all the same, and your boobs are all the same. But do you notice as it goes on that people's personalities really start kind of shifting with the fame and the cameras? I wouldn't say people's personality changes.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I think they become exaggerated versions of themselves. Mm. So they're themselves. They're just like themselves on a 10. And it's like, take it down a notch. Who do you feel has fallen into that trap the most? And do you feel like it's more the younger or the older generation?
Starting point is 00:09:00 Oh no, the older generation is tried and true. They have no reason to be asked or change. They're all in their 60s, they're fabulous, they're amazing. I'm going to say Vishal. Mm, well, yeah, I kind of feel like that's what it was. Because I've been asked before and other people have been asked. And he said, Bali.
Starting point is 00:09:21 And I was like, she doesn't seem to have changed. She's always been a 10. I know, like, I'm like, she doesn't seem to change. She's always been a 10. I know. He's always, I'm like, if you, hun. Yeah, because he's, he's pulling the, he's pulling the old school, like, I'm going to skip your party. Because of my alcoholism, which I suddenly had on the day of your party, like he's doing stuff like that, like using real, really romantic things. I'm curious, like, A, A. Yeah, but like, I also think that's like so shitty
Starting point is 00:09:49 considering that you guys all flew down to Mexico for days and days and probably spent a shit ton of money and like so many events. And then he can't even go an hour away to a Airbnb, even if he is grappling with alcohol. Like, I don't know. I felt like I was so shitting. And you're going to see that unfold as well because a lot of us are like what's the
Starting point is 00:10:13 middle ground? Like we're confused just as you are. Okay, good. Because you know, like I'm not I'm not laughing because of the alcoholism part. It's just like in real life, we all have this situation with the friends or ourselves. We are that friend like depending but you don't do like it's like Ronnie you don't go on a diet the day of the cake tasting for somebody's wedding. You know it's like that kind of thing. Exactly that's exactly you know we all have those friends who don't show up for like you go to every
Starting point is 00:10:42 single one of their stupid parties. Yeah not that their wedding was stupid but you go to single one of their stupid parties. Yes. Not that their wedding was stupid, but you go to every one of their stupid parties, they have like a party because they bought a new tire for their car and you go to it. And then when you finally have something that's like actually significant and monumental, they're like, oh, you know, it's just been really tough for me today.
Starting point is 00:10:58 My DVR broke, I just need to have a moment, you know? It was like after the wedding, I took them out for the dinner and he's like, I'm? Who was like, after the wedding, I took them out for the dinner, and he's like, I'm not drinking, like, but I'm paying. I'm not a drink. Yeah. And after that storyline too,
Starting point is 00:11:15 of him showing up to give you all that crap about you only being at the wedding three days, which is ridiculous. But then he's not gonna show up to somebody his best friend's thing. That's crazy. Yeah, there you go. Now, do you see?
Starting point is 00:11:28 Let's be real. I flew from, I flew to Cancun from Scottsdale. That's like 52 hours. If you had flown honestly to Tucson from Scottsdale, I think that's notable, okay? Because you made an effort and you spent your money to go to something, okay? That's way.
Starting point is 00:11:43 But then, so he was really, really pissy about, I guess he said that he felt like he wasn't looped in but from you about your plans for this wedding. And it just always seemed like, why was he so mad? Was there something deeper going on? Do you feel like there was something deeper? No, it was literally just, I think,
Starting point is 00:12:00 he expected more from me, but you have to remember, I've been the single one for the past five years, and everyone on Family Karma is in a relationship. So I was always the friend that was always there down to help, you know, you're just the right or die, you're there. I was always there.
Starting point is 00:12:20 And me personally, everyone's like, oh, like you ditched your friends, not cool. I'm like, okay, your girls turning 38. I just turned 38. I had never put my personal life first ever. And so I had to do that because time was just passing. Life is passing me by and I did want to have a partner and I'd never put my personal life first.
Starting point is 00:12:43 And I hadn't dated in five years either. Season two was when I started dating and that was, you know, you saw that. It was like awkward. It was weird. It was new for me. It hadn't been out there. I was with someone else for 12 years. Do you think that, um, do you think that there was something deeper in the sense
Starting point is 00:12:58 like do you think that Vishal was uncomfortable with you actually being in like a long term relationship or even in season two. I feel like we saw a lot of you with Dylan and season one was very much you and Vishal. Do you think he was uncomfortable with like a changing dynamic and that was what was really fueling his frustrations? Possibly, but I'll say it's always okay when the guys do it on our show. But God forbid, you know, like he and Umr might can have their thing. God forbid me and Bali talk to each other, but they're they're all doing the same thing. The girls get called out for it.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Yeah, your show really has a lot of gossipy boys, which I think is. Yes, I'm the good one. I love it. I love it. They really are. Let's talk about a little bit about the show, how the show started. Who pitched the show? Because, you know, we know these shows are usually
Starting point is 00:13:52 built off the sizzle reel. Right. You know, who started that whole process? Well, Bravo was just looking for an organic group of friends. You know, it wasn't really like Indian. It was just an organic group of friends. And me, it wasn't really like Indian. It was just an organic group of friends. And me and Vishal had been in touch. And so it started with me and Vishal. And then obviously, Umrith and you just... It was like a posting? Was there like an ad posting somewhere that was like looking for friends?
Starting point is 00:14:20 You know? No. No. It wasn't like that. You just saw, on Instagram. Oh, okay. So it was you guys, it was you and Vishal, and then you just started loading people on one by one. Well, our friends, our actual friends, and you know, being in this community was really challenging to get our parents, you know, to be on board with this. You know, no typical Indian parents, like, yes, I want to be on board with this, you know, no typical Indian parents,
Starting point is 00:14:46 like, yes, I want to be on a reality show and go for it. I'm here to support you. Well, yeah, they see the thing with it. Well, yeah, because they all think it's like girls gone wild. It's like, mom, you're not going to be in your bra, you know, what I mean? Exactly. I think it's going to be something crazy. I think now it gives them something that they can call their own because a lot of the aunties, they spent their lives taking care of us.
Starting point is 00:15:12 This is the first time if they're doing something for them. And I'm so glad that they're getting the love and the shine that they get. It's exciting. They've never had this sort of attention in their lives. Yeah. I mean, we see a lot of them, it's exciting. They've never had this sort of attention in their lives. Yeah. Do the end, I mean, we see a lot of them sort of like gathering to have sort of like,
Starting point is 00:15:29 ladies night or something like that and they talk whatever. And that, I'm assuming that's like all very organic. Like that was happening. Oh my gosh, the amount of times there's lady's night and girls night and different groups and it's like twice a day. They hang out more than us.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Can we hang out with them? Yes. I would like to hang out with them. Yeah, does your mom do stuff like that? Then my mom's at cards right now every time I call her, she's like having some girls to go on little day trips and stuff. They're living their best life.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Yeah, and they're little group texts is going on. Every time I'm with her, I'm like, would you turn it off? Because also my mom's text tone is, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, it's like the dust, you know? And it's so annoying. And it's all, the volume is all the way up.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And I'm like, could you please stop? No, I feel like when I was younger, I feel like when I was, when I was a kid, my mom had more of an active social life. But then she, you know, I think when I was like in third or fourth grade, she started a business and then she's really just sort of started going down that path.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Okay, so your mom's just a boss bitch. She's a boss bitch. What can I, I'm sorry, my mom doesn't have time for ladies night. She's got just a boss bitch. Yeah. So with your mom, is there still drama and stuff going, is she still hanging out with Monica a lot when you're not there now that you're not there a lot more
Starting point is 00:16:47 I think they all see each other a lot. It's just our community, you know like you know We said in season one. These are arranged friendships. They're always gonna be in each other's lives Yeah, that was one of our favorite fights on your show was when in the last reading we were just cracking up We're like who on reality TV is this the fight and the way that they put in the last reading we were just cracking up. We were like, who on reality TV is this the fight? And the way that they put into sound effects were like, oh boom! She'd be like, well, I've seen your mother. It's like, oh boom!
Starting point is 00:17:13 Well, my mother loves me. It's like, I love that they're still using all those crazy Bravo sound effects. It's like, guys, chill. Hello, Ariel. So on the family, karma cast. Where do you stand with Monica these days? Or is that something you're not allowed to divulge?
Starting point is 00:17:27 No, I mean, you see it right now. I kind of like have her back in the current situation. Mm-hmm. You know, like what's unfolding? And, you know, I can say that I feel bad for her. Are you, well, bad men, you night women, you know? So, just to keep things for that. Who are you closest with on the cast right now?
Starting point is 00:17:49 Like, is it still like, I'm really sorry. So, I'm gonna keep it real. We all talk, we all talk every day. Okay. We all talk every day. We're on a group chat. We talk every day. It's really fun.
Starting point is 00:18:01 But if I were to tell you who I tell my deepest, darkest secrets to, it's really fun. But if I were to tell you who I tell my deepest darkest secrets to, it's number one, Bolly. And then, you know, Brian came into the picture because he was kind of telling me how to date. And so that's how we became close. And my husband is Gujarati, and so is Brian's mom. So we had that connection. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:18:26 And as your husband get along with all the whole group, do they? Oh, I, okay, so I kept it real. When I say something, I mean it. I said, no one's meeting anyone until I'm married. Okay. So I just got married. So no one's got him.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Yeah. So, why is that? Because I was tired of being the joke of like, oh, which guy is it this week? And so I didn't want anyone to meet him until I was actually married because I was like, private till permanent. No one needs to hear me. So it wasn't like, I don't want you to meet these crazy people.
Starting point is 00:18:59 You know, you don't remember. You know, when I would be like that, I mean, I've told my family that, you know, you're not meeting anybody. I'm crazy what? In my friend group, I'm the crazy one. I'm one of the crazy ones. I probably asked you know the group They had like superlatives like most and they're like who's the most fun and everyone said me So I'm like I know like it has nothing to do with them being crazy. I'm the crazy one. It's just, I didn't want to be embarrassed. I was tired of being ashamed and it was vulnerable, you know, when you're a woman in your late 30s, people really do alienate
Starting point is 00:19:39 you. It doesn't matter what you look like, how smart you are, what you've accomplished, people think you're weird when you're single and it sucks. Well, yeah, I mean, I'm not a woman obviously. I mean, maybe on the inside a little, but for the most part, I'm not, and I'm, but I'm a single gay guy, so I get that because my friends are mostly, you know, even the gay friends, all of us,
Starting point is 00:20:01 everyone's partnered up and having babies, and so like once I didn't get invited to a wedding because I was single, and I was like, that's one of my best friends. For the No Plus One invite. Yes, and she said No Plus One. I was like, excuse me. I'm not going.
Starting point is 00:20:15 I mean, when I would get close, I made a rule. I'm not going. I went to a wedding in rural Michigan, and during the service, it was like a Catholic service it was like it was sort of a conservative church and the priest was like and now let us pray for those who've lost loved ones and let us pray for those who are ill and let us pray for those who are single and I was like, I was like, I was single, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I am getting out of here. Yeah. That's bizarre. Yeah. The Mesh is, here comes one right now.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Do you do, are you working on anything outside of Family Karma for TV? Like, what kind of projects do you have surrounding around? I have my comedy tour coming up. I just performed my Caroline's on Broadway. Oh my God, how did you go? I saw that. You snuck in right before I closed. Yes, I know, right?
Starting point is 00:21:14 Like two weeks before I'm like, did it close because of me? They're closing. Why are they so often? They're closing. I can't afford to rent, I think. So they're not gonna just move? Come on. They're gonna move. I'm traveling to do're not going to just move? Come on. They're going to move.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I'm sure they're going to move. They're aware. Okay, so it's not about Caroline. So yes, that's awesome. How was it? It was amazing. I had a full house. I did my, imagine having your first set at Caroline's, like 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:21:39 30 minutes. 30 minutes. 30 minutes. 30 minutes. What? That Joey Gorgah. They said I was fun funnier. Oh good. Well, I would hope so I was gonna say my fish is funny. Yeah, I'm so glad that you're doing that. So you're gonna go on a full tour where you go? Are you gonna do like the full on getting the car and drive with other comics. Maybe a plane. Yeah, I always ask comics because there's
Starting point is 00:22:08 I would be a plane to for sure not a car person, but man a lot of those comics. It's like a little clown car, you know, five people driving around from city to city and then they just pop out, all smelling like Cheetos and you know, probably be out and just show up at the club and do their thing. Yeah, maybe 10 years ago, but now it's like champagne, you know, how do I know? I'm married, Rich. I like to joke. I married Rich. I had a girl. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:35 How is BravoCon for you, though? You mentioned it just now. Like, what was that? I think it's like such a surreal experience because being like the newbies, you know, you're going against like Kyle Richards and you know, HeyDrop, like how am I competing here except everyone knew who we were and we were at the Gansport, that's the hotel we were staying at and there were all these bravo fans like just camped out every day and you know, I'd have Taylor, I'm strong, walk in front of me and you're thinking,
Starting point is 00:23:06 well, okay, everyone's screaming Taylor, no one's gonna scream my name and that's okay. People were screaming my name and I remember Vishal told me, don't go out there, like you're gonna get mobbed, out into the Javit Center. I was like, yeah, I don't believe you. Sure enough, we went out and got mobbed. There was a family karma bar
Starting point is 00:23:26 I mean Bravo A lot for family karma. They had a whole section and we had our bar with our Indian cocktails and life-size posters of us it was pretty incredible and I got to meet Every Bravo Liberty you could imagine like all all my bravo dreams come true. Who is your favorite? Yeah, who do you think it's a great? You know, it's so hard to pick, but if we're going with OGs,
Starting point is 00:23:53 just someone who has a presence, like it was more of her presence than her aura, and I didn't expect this, but Luanne. Like Luanne is just a stunning goddess. Like she's just ethereal, like in person. And she is. So nice. Of course, I said hello to Sonia Morgan, but seeing Luanne in person, like she's a vision. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she is like my favorite real housewife of all time. I mean, I think she's just, she's done it all. She's gone to prison. She has a capriot show. She was a book about manners, she slept with a pirate.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Like, I can only hope such a trajectory on every other reality star. Was there anyone who surprised you at Bravo? Being Derek A'Jane was pretty fucking amazing. Oh yeah. That's all you can curse, it's okay. Okay, I went up to her. I went up to her and, you know, I just said,
Starting point is 00:24:43 hi, I'm Anisha, I'm from Family Karma. It's the Indian show on Bravo And she was like nice to meet you and she was just very like business Uh-huh, she didn't come to play Right. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, she's very like very like serious but kind But like she wasn't gonna go Because I'm like a jokester and I made some jokes with the other wives, but Erica Jane was just like,
Starting point is 00:25:09 handshake like nice to meet you. Like we're here for business. And I'd say the MVP was Heather Gay. But really, yeah. Like she was. She was great in person. All around just a loving fun person that's kind to everyone But you know, I saw Fadra I saw Marlowe like all these divas and they're exactly who they are in person
Starting point is 00:25:33 They have like many people in their posse, you know the Shahs goldness Reza MJ they're amazing saw them anyone you can imagine I saw them, it was iconic. Were there any Bravo stars that came up to you? We're like, oh my God, I love family karma. Yeah, everyone from Salt Lake City loves our show. They know our show and shockingly Hoda. Like the Hoda. Oh, that's a lovely.
Starting point is 00:26:01 You're like, wave to me and she knew who I was. Oh, big old smile. What's up, I'd to me and she knew who I was. Oh, big old smile. I like to think she knew who I was. She's the Tegan. I didn't think she knew who we were. She was aware of our show. She was front row, hit it off with Brandy Glanville. And then I went on her podcast, got a lot of heat for what I said on her podcast, but
Starting point is 00:26:22 that's okay. Oh, really? Well, you don't need to get in the heat again. I don't mind, because I said, I hate men, men, or trash, but I had to try marriage once. What? Who even on control for that? Who listens to pregnant glibberlin?
Starting point is 00:26:38 You're poor husband. I'm like, have you not watched Family Karma? Clearly, you haven't. First of all, I believe in monogamy and long-term partnership. Signing a piece of paper means nothing to me. And me and my husband did that for society and for the boomers, our boomer parents. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:56 People wouldn't like that. It's like, I understand for some people marriage is like a sacred institution. And I think that's a relationship. But the paper, the actual signing papers and the institution, like I don't know what it means. I'll tell you the important institution, the pre-NEPs. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Now there's a piece of paper I'm into. Bring me that one. I just don't understand like listening to Brandy Glendale and then being shocked that you hear something that's like sort of, you know, salacious. Not even salacious. It's like literally not even salacious, but like being offended by anything that would happen on Brandy Glamble, though. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, even Brandy was like, whoa. That's good. You halted her. I like that.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Yeah, she didn't know what to say when I was like, I hate men. Did you see any scandals or anything like that happening? Did you see any of the tea being spilled at BravoCon? Like who got sloppy? I mean, I don't know if you watched the legend's ball that aired. Oh yeah. We saw a little bit of it. We saw the, um, watch our happens.
Starting point is 00:28:01 We were more than falling and then Ramona and then Teresa like all the little like wars that was all real Wow, I was hoping they would have Kathy and Kyle Oh gosh, they're Beverly Hills cast holds back too much, you know, they're all there Erica James probably the coldest, but it seems like they all have that level of holding back You know, yeah, this is what we'll put on the show. And this is what's for real life. And it's not for you. Have you thought about like maybe starting a feud with the Bravo Liberty,
Starting point is 00:28:31 just for the fun of it? Maybe for like, like, raise your phone. I'm not one. And you see that this season, if there's no real feud, I'm not going to start something just to start something. And maybe that's not how it works. But like, what if we like you can't? What if we like pull like a name out of a hat and be like, okay, and you should, your assignment for this next six months is to start a feud with this person on Bravo.
Starting point is 00:28:52 And then just like, you just go, you just do it. And like, and so. What I would want, what I would want is for them to do like a real girls trip, like minus the housewives. If it's housewives, great, like they're on there, but I'm not a housewife. So real girls trip with some minus the housewives. If it's housewives great, like they're on there, but I'm not a housewife. So real girls trip with some like millennial celebrities, like Candace, Dr. Nicole Martin, me,
Starting point is 00:29:14 like throw some millennials on an island. I'm really excited. They ask you to go on to like winter house, if they ask you to go to winter house, because winter house seems to be where they're sending people from various shows of like the younger shows. Would you go into winter house? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:29:29 But your husband would have to come or something bad would happen because that shows, you know, all about. But, yeah, that's what I was like, winter house, like, yeah, what would I do there? Because like, I'm happily married. Yeah. That's true. Yeah, but there should be, Bravo will hopefully start coming out with a lot more shows like that because they do so well I love watching all of this and mixing up so fun that show the traders looks really good. Oh my god I can't wait for that brand. He's on it. Resas on it. Yeah Kyle. Yeah, actually have a question going back to family Karma Have you gotten any sort of response from the larger Indian community,
Starting point is 00:30:05 like people saying things like, this is so great, or like this doesn't represent us at all. How dare you? No, every single South Asian that's come my way is so grateful that we're showcasing our culture, and we're coming on as regular people. We're not, none of us are the typical stereotype. None of us went to med school. We're just living life. And we're talking about real things.
Starting point is 00:30:35 In our culture, it's taboo to go to therapy. And Fischal is talking about going to therapy in season two and dating online and kissing and all of that stuff It's you know, I think we're doing big things for the culture Yeah, I definitely think so I think it's I think it's fantastic that That there is that representation on bravo really like it's like nor else on reality Well you said we're annoying because everyone loves that But that's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:31:05 It's refreshing and it's calming to watch something that is just because the drama does build too because we haven't been recapping it but we're still watching every week and I'm like, really, Rishi? Is anybody believing this? Is anybody? And I get so mad, you know. And then he has the nerve to go up to Omret and be like, yeah bro, really you going and talking about, you don't get to do that,
Starting point is 00:31:32 you're not part of this group, sir. You don't get to go and like be mad at the man because he didn't give you a heads up. You're obviously lying and cheating. So what the hell? You know, so it does build where you do get really mad, but it's still in such an innocent way compared to I mean God if you watch Salt Lake City I don't know I think I think a different there's different ways of
Starting point is 00:31:54 There's different communication styles because if that was me it wouldn't be like calm Yeah, yeah, and also I guess the communication style was, you know, I'm bringing it on camera, which is, which was kind of a shady move when he was like, I'm just going to bring this all to the brunch. But then on the other hand, you guys have to do that because you're on a TV show. So, what do you do? How much of the producers in your ear, by the way? I'm like, please me in my ear, please help. No, everything's pretty much what you see is what you get with us. There is, I think you feel that too. Do you, did you feel during the whole like Rishi thing that like, like, I, like, damn, I wish I was there because I feel like no one noticing this or no one's noticing that
Starting point is 00:32:42 or you just want to talk some sense to someone. Did you, because you were not really there for that. I feel like no one noticing this or no one's noticing that or you just want to talk some sense to someone. Because you were not really there for that. I had a lot of thoughts in my head, but you have to understand my position already in the past few years because seasons come and go, but it's really been years with Monica. And especially with this, even on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:33:03 people are like, maybe a niche has started the rumor God like you know, so being in that Situation I for one did not want to be the one to start having opinions Yeah, well, yeah, and if you had gone to her that could have gone very differently You know because people do so I can think myself there are a lot of dead messengers in the world, but you're gone to her, that could have gone very differently, you know, because people do cheat the messengers. There are a lot of dead messengers in the worst. But you're going to see me start yapping, because I can't keep quiet. Oh good.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I'm glad, because I feel like I was, I finished the latest episode and I was like, wait a second, I felt like there was like no anisha on that episode. You see? Yeah, I wasn't in it, but you'll see it's why. Good. But. You see, yeah, I wasn't in it, but you'll see why. Good. But. You're not justice. If you see that, well, if you see, you know, the past few seasons, I would say it was
Starting point is 00:33:53 definitely quiet about the situation because, you know, in the past, I've just been crucified for, you know, a joke. So I definitely didn't want to be anywhere near this, but once it starts becoming a group discussion, then you'll see how I feel. What do you think about the whole holding back on signing the marriage license, even though you're not working?
Starting point is 00:34:21 That was like your question. Are you even legally married? We all just flew to your wedding. Your mad that I didn't come for all the days. But you're not legally married. They're not even married. I mean, I kind of feel like, you know, normally I'd be like, oh, I don't love this idea of like some sort of like
Starting point is 00:34:38 negotiation, like you guys got married. You guys basically got married. So just signed the document, whatever. But I did think it was actually really terrible that he got so wasted that he did not spend his wedding night with his wife. I think that was actually, like I'm actually giving Richa space
Starting point is 00:34:52 to sort of be hanging right now. And she's getting a lot of hate, I think, online, but I feel like she's coming from the point of view, like she's worried about his health, right? Because now, yeah, that changes. Yeah, that changes. And technically, right? Because now, you're not going to love him technically. So I mean, your wedding day happens once hopefully, like, sleep with your wife.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Yeah. In the same room. And speaking of Richard, you know, a personal icon for me is Lopa, and I would love to know, like, how are you feel about Lopa? Is Lopa, like the amazing Loppa and I would love to know like how you feel about Loppa is Loppa like the the amazing, you know Loppa that that we see on TV. Yes, she is like that at all times. I love her. She terrifies me. Loppa is Loppa at all times. But she was very kind to me, you know, with with new relationship, like she was so...
Starting point is 00:35:45 You're on her good side. Me. I'm on her good side. Mesh, here comes one right now. So what are you going to do to intro your man to everybody? Are you going to have like an intro party? Well, I'm having a big reception. Oh, okay. I'm having a big reception. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I'm having a reception in the spring. And good. And right on. Yeah, I am doing my whole thing. It's just, I know this sounds so lame, but we have to schedule our proposal, and we have to schedule the wedding. And every time he comes, he's got 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:36:19 So the first time he came, he met my parents. And even that took a while, because I didn't even want him to be my parents. And you know, my mom, my mom was like, don't introduce me to anyone until you're at the altar. Like, that's what she would think. So while everyone's mad at me for not introducing, you know, my then boyfriend on the show,
Starting point is 00:36:39 I even say it, but you know, no one wants to see those parts on the show. Bravo's showing you everything. He hadn't even met my grandparents. Wow, that's a trick. Is your mom still shading you about pizza, about loving pizza so much? Yeah, my mom's now her new thing.
Starting point is 00:36:55 It's really annoying. She's like, oh, you're married now. Like, you can't leave so much. But I'm like, we're a millennial couple. Like, we're both getting paid. Like, we both have jobs. Like, mom, I don't like that couple. Like, we're both getting paid. Like, we both have jobs. Like, mom doesn't like that anymore. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:37:08 The mom's in her 60s, right? So she's like, you should stay with your husband. You shouldn't be on a plane every other week. I'm like, but then I'm just home alone. Right. And are you feeling pressure because you know after everybody asks you for years and years about the marriage thing, then comes the baby thing.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Are you getting attacks with that? Not when you're geriatric and you froze your eggs, people don't even know how to handle that. They're just like, okay, good luck. Oh, if you can have them. Yeah. You're also on bravo, so you're totally fine to have kids in your 50s.
Starting point is 00:37:41 You know, that's how it rolls on bravo. And by the way, I said I hate men. I'd like to say I hate straight men. Oh, yeah. Totally. Yeah, we're with you. And look, we don't hate all straight men. But look, you know, I think one thing that we have in common
Starting point is 00:37:57 is that we've all had to kind of deal with straight men. You know, that's what's the bottom line. And I haven't had terrible experiences. Everyone's like, oh, you must have had trauma like on the brandy, because that's the clip they. And I've gotten some terrible experiences. Everyone's like, oh, you must have had trauma on the brandy, because that's the clip they've had for podcast posted as well, because, you know, of course. So I was like, no, I didn't have any trauma with men, actually.
Starting point is 00:38:14 I've just seen what men have put people in my life. You went to a Best Buy once and you had a man explained every single electronic to you. That was the best. That's all that happened. And I'm sorry I'm on here with this like hideous there but there's no I don't see anything actually. I know but you know like I like to call things out before the public does. I go yeah I'm like that. I'm here like this. Yeah I walk out just like okay fat and I'm really bad and you know I just get it all out of the way
Starting point is 00:38:43 so I can feel comfortable. I'm like an allergy commercial. I'm like I. And you know, I just get it all out of the way so I can feel comfortable. I'm like an allergy commercial. I'm like, I come in all sunny, but then I'm like, here's some side effects of me. I've got a hunchback, I gained some weight, and I pop this at here best left to mark. Thank you. Well, it's really good talking to you.
Starting point is 00:38:57 This was really fun. And thanks for coming on and talking to us. I felt like it was easy. You didn't grill me at all. I'm like, really? Well, we usually just kind of let you open up and give us some shit if you want to. We're really not very good barber walkers. We're more like checking with us if you ever want to talk crap about somebody.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Yeah, we just like to just talk some shit or whatever. I don't know any crap. Any crap you'd like to talk about it, anybody? Who's the worst? Well, I know we're talking about Bravo. Like, no one's the, I can't say anyone's the worst because everyone I met, I really think, you know, they understand the assignment and things happen
Starting point is 00:39:34 when you're filming that are fucking annoying and there's nothing you can do. Like, you're gonna see like the worst of our reactions and then you meet people at Bravo Conn and we're like, you're a normal human. Yeah. You're a human being. You're a human being. Really, because I've never met anybody from Bravo
Starting point is 00:39:50 that I think that about. Did you think it's normal? I saw these people at like 6am, no makeup, sweats. OK. I think we go in on our podcast on so many Bravo celebrities, because honestly, like, with family karma, our bread and butter is when people are super diluted
Starting point is 00:40:08 and you guys seem by and large, like not too diluted. Have you met our parents? Well, but it's like. They would never let us feel famous even for like three seconds. They're gonna bring you down the whole way. Oh yeah. Yeah, so it's like hard for us to really go in on you guys But we go in really hard on people on other shows too and then we meet them in real life and they're like
Starting point is 00:40:31 They're chill Brandy Glamble. We did her podcast a few years ago Brandy Glamble. Yeah, she was a lot different But she didn't listen to so that's another thing She didn't come from the experience of like having listened to us go in on her So she was just like, oh, hey, who are you? You guys are nice. You know, so she was really cool actually in real life. But oh my God. Could you imagine if she'd actually heard any of that?
Starting point is 00:40:53 So she would have beat the crap out of us. I don't know. I feel like you have to take sugar with the bad. And I said, Indian parents are the biggest trolls. Yeah. Well, yeah, I'm Lebanese. I learned to be a smart ass from. Yeah, you get it. I'm Lebanese. I've learned to be a smart ass from the family. Yeah, it's a different. I know it's not
Starting point is 00:41:11 bravo related. I just want to know like your thoughts on Harry and Meghan. You know, I haven't watched their special yet though. I watched it. I binge it yesterday and 2x speed just because everyone was talking about it. What we're going to take from it. What were your own takes from it? Well, I do understand why people don't like her because she means well, but then the things that she's saying are just like, preposterous.
Starting point is 00:41:35 She does come off as, and I've said this, she before just talking to them. This like kind of, she has this like, snottie country club lady demeanor about her that sometimes when she'll say things I'm like, I kind of clenched. But then reading all the steps that they're going through online, I'm team her. But then they were racist. Like the palace was racist. So it's like
Starting point is 00:41:59 but she's still getting you know beat up I think in the press Oh my god everything I read it's like they can't say any she can't be like you know what I really love prodded plants People are like yeah Yeah, I think I think plants now plants if you hadn't murder her like oh my god like and then Bethany Really like like huge fan and now I'm also like, why are you turning into a psychopath? Like, what are you doing? Like, just stop. She has like turned the corner. She has become a parody of herself.
Starting point is 00:42:32 She's everything she used to make fun of on like the early seasons of Rony, but I'm like, I'm just endlessly fascinated by her and I kind of wanted to come back onto the real housewives of New York. I think she should be part of the reboot because no matter how much of a monster she's turned into, she has always just been a gaping wound. Like, she just, well, she's just happy to bear her pain for all of us. And I'm fascinated by that. Absolutely. I thought it was really interesting. I think it's interesting watching her over the years because first of all, she's always been this person. She's always been arrogant. She's always been, she's always been all of those things. I think it's just interesting now that She's one of those people that really does have it all. I mean, she sold everything to you know, she's a zillionaire
Starting point is 00:43:12 She's successful. She's one of the biggest most popular people who's ever been on Bravo everybody liked her. I mean, I've had my ups and downs But I still love Bethany for what she's brought over the years. She's hilarious But she doesn't seem to know like she still has to tell you constantly like I'm the best I'm the best my best everyone listens to me. I started. I'm like do you have to have started? Podcasts to like have a pod you don't have to have invented it to still have a good one, you know like calm down We think you're great. Did you watch the Watch What Happens Live with her and Jeff Lewis? I did and I'm a huge OG day one Jeff Lewis fan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:50 I know he triggers a lot of people, but I see a lot of him. I see a lot of myself in him to be honest. Just, you don't see much of that on the show, maybe you do. But back in the early days, I just identified with him because he's just says it like it is, and it's not always nice. But you know, he's not lying. Right. You like he called her out like someone finally put her in our fucking place. And our reaction chemistry actually, her reaction was just like so freaked out. It was hilarious. I'm like crazy, crackle at the end.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Yes, and just the, you know, just like, ha ha ha ha ha. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. And just like kind of freaking out. And then I came in with a phone call and he apologized. But then after the phone call, she went back on her podcast and said like, he was like a jerk and blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:44:44 And he's like wait I thought we just apologize and she's like well I thought about it after and then I was mad. Oh god. I mean they basically just sold a show together. That's what I think they did because honestly they they had great. They both have that interior design like real estate connection. They could be on a show together. Super Alphas, like that was actually, I thought it was, I thought it was pretty amazing. The two of us. I mean, look at all this that they're having to go through
Starting point is 00:45:10 just from doing a watch what happens together. And he was saying little smart assy things to her, but he was just saying things that people have been saying online. You know what I mean? And she just went, like, she just kind of lost it. And I saw the TikTok where she was saying, oh, you know what, Jeff Lewis, like, you know what, he came for me.
Starting point is 00:45:28 I didn't think it was a big deal, but then everyone told me it was a big deal, so then I started getting upset by it. And he's trying to make nice with me. And so we texted and he apologized. He's a good person. You know what, he came to me. He apologized to the sit.
Starting point is 00:45:38 He said, Bethany, you're the best. You're the most amazing. Thank you for inventing podcasts or whatever. And then I saw Jeff's take on his show. Or he basically told the story she did. So after that, you're saying she went back on her show and said you did it. Yeah, on her new relives podcast.
Starting point is 00:45:55 But there's a lot of people. And I think that's why you see me not say too much this season is also because if you can dish it, you have to take it, and I'm taking a lot because I do dish it a lot. So I think this is a season you see me maybe, maybe I'm just taking it all at all. Yeah, licking some wounds a little bit. Yeah, I think it's a question for women. Women get it really hard. But like when women dish it, they get, it comes back. I feel like threefold. And I feel like she couldn't take it.
Starting point is 00:46:25 She can't. Well, she can't take it. She can't. No, she can't take it. That is fragile. She has fragile as fuck. I mean, she's so fascinating how she's sort of really hardened. I feel like ever since she's really decided to make her brand be that she's a business, I'm in business, I'm a business woman, okay? I'm in the shotgun.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Like, she has like an armor around her that's crazy. And I think it's like sad It's like a fairy tale or one of those movies where they you see a flashback to their innocent lives like a soap opera almost You know, yeah, absolutely, but you know More power to her more clearly winning. Yeah, she still keeps it interesting. You know what I mean So I love watching her I don't think those two could ever do a show together, though. I just don't see it happening.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Did you ever watch a show that she did with Frederick from? I'm really to old. But it was. I could deal with that one. It was awkward, right? It was so awkward. It was beyond chemistry. It was just mean.
Starting point is 00:47:21 I mean, she got, she was just trying to ruin this guy, you know, say, not only it just became the biggest, ugliest mess, you know, and of course, it's Frederick too. So he's one of the most obnoxious people in the world. But he was to be like, oh my God, I can't believe she said this to be, you know, to became this, she was just viled at him, you know, Jeff, you can't just be viled at Jeff. He's not going to get just go crying a corner, you know't just be viled to Jeff. He's not gonna just go cry in a corner. No. So, I think there would be too much blood on the walls.
Starting point is 00:47:49 You know, they're trying to sell these places. So, you think Andy knew that, or do you think watch happens to do that? They were like, let's have a meeting. Because we know that Jeff is gonna call that on her shirt. I think they all went into it like, we're all BFFs. This is gonna be like super like fun. And we're gonna shoot the shit together
Starting point is 00:48:04 and talk shit together. And it's dead Jeff pulled a wild card. I'm going to talk shit about you. Yeah. Well, and Andy did too. Andy was coming from the same place, Jeff. It seemed to me that they were just surprised that she wasn't owning anything because one of the questions was, yeah, like you came and you've always said that these ladies doing these podcasts are ridiculous and here you are with the body. And it's like, well, you know, it's my right to do a podcast
Starting point is 00:48:33 and I've never said that. And she didn't really own any of the stuff. And so it's just started spitting out from there because they're both like, oh, but you did say it. So I think she's getting enough heat on the social platforms. Yeah. And it was just like such clear bullshit when she was trying to describe why she unfollowed. That, I mean, that, Kyle, that doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:48:55 That's your friend. It just didn't make any sense. And that's where, that's where Jeff really perked up, right? Because like, if, like, if you're going to say that you tell it like it is and your Beth and he, Frank, and then you're going to give a obvious line of bullshit, like Jeff Lewis is going to, that's like, that's just like giving a big old tree. He just can't resist. He's going to have to, he's going to go in on that, you know? Absolutely. All right. Well, we've taken enough of your time. It was so good talking to you. Hopefully,
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