Watch What Crappens - Project Runway: Nip Grip

Episode Date: April 30, 2019

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And apparently today is Abby's birthday. So happy birthday Abby. Thanks for coming to watch our own Boston. Yeah, baby. Yeah. So today we did not have real housewives of Atlanta. I think Jesus that is over a little while. But we did have project runway, air last week.

I know. We've been ignoring Project Runway for the past two weeks. We apologize. Here's what you've missed, not much. People got eliminated. We said goodbye to Rakan. We said goodbye to Rakan. We said goodbye to COVID.

It was a feat. It was the cut. It was the a feed. It was the cut. It was the taste level. So we said goodbye to those guys. Project one ways, super great show. We're going to be skipping it probably for most of the rest of the next season because real housewives of Potomac is coming back.

Well, yeah. So we'll check in here and there. But we figured we do this show deserves a full recap for Monday. Let's do it. Yeah. Yeah. Let's give it, let's give it the love it deserves, you know?

It's not enough room for everyone at the table, unfortunately, but every now and then, there's some space. Yeah. So here we are. It's the top 10. Well, yeah. Oh, and by the way, we should also mention that we were in Dallas this weekend and we ran into Venni from project runway at the roundup

So there He was really nice. He was really really nice. Yeah, he was a sweet guy There's nothing else that's about it. You just really I cut off. Yeah No, we didn't cut off. I just sort of like for a moment. I was like, ah, yes. Remember when we met Benny and he was so nice. He was so nice. Yeah, great story. Yeah, he and great story. We may have told us something interesting, but we were really wasted, so I don't know.

Oh, we opened with Jamal being sad that Rakan was gone. And he's like, you know, it's sad he's gone. He's such a big personality. I'm like, babe, the guy who sprays for bugs is a big personality compared to you. I know. Jamal is really like, he's starting to like fall to the bottom of my list. I'm like, still so mad that he made Victorian Street wear for like street wear challenge.

He's like, okay, dapper dan challenge. I'm going to be inspired by 19th century Victorian people in Victorian England. I was like, Jamal, no. I'm just like, I'm a little over him. I really am. I'm sorry. I am. You're just not having it anymore. No, not. You know, I'm allowed. I'm allowed. It's a healthy competition. I'm allowed to have a rational dislike of someone. Yes, of course, especially if it's rational. I mean, my goodness. The best kind of someone. Yeah, so of course, especially if it's rational. I mean, my goodness. Yeah, the best kind of dislike.

I'm more of an irrational dislike. No, I said irrational. Oh, I thought he said rational. No, I'm like that. I like a well-measured. I think I just, he's just like so e-or, you know, he just is like, well, you know, I'm just trying to figure things out. I'm 20, I just graduated from college, I'm 23, I'm just trying to figure things out.

Like, okay, you know what, don't figure things out on our time. Yeah, he speaks in a yawn. I think he's got, he bugs me just because he's got kind of a mix of arrogance, but then also insecurity because, and I think a lot of that is just youth, and coming to this so young, and at first he's really arrogant. Like, I've already done this, and I've already done that,

and I've already done this, and he does that a little in this episode. But then the second he gets a criticism or a critique he's like, but I'm liking him for the most part. I just need to see more from him like I'm a judge on project. Yeah. I need to see more from you. No, I'm he has more from you. No, I'm, I'm, he has, he has now, he's at the bottom of my pile at the moment, because I do think there is an arrogance about him.

It's like, you're arrogant and you're eore, and I don't like that combination. Like I've seen that in people before, I hate arrogant eoreness. It's just, it's a combination I do not like with Victorian streetwear. Uh, yeah. But then on the other side of the spectrum, Hester who I expected to hate her guts, I'm liking even when she's super overconfident, because she's won a couple now. And she has immunity today.

And she's like, I'm double winner winner chicken dinner dinner dinner dinner winner winner. And she's like, I can finally say I can stand up to the big guys. And normally like I'm reading what I'm typing out. And I'm like, I can finally say I can stand up to the big guys and normally like I'm reading what I'm typing out And I'm like I would hate this person, but for whatever reason I'm liking her. I don't know Yeah, I was really angry at Hester earlier in the season And then she's won me over and now she's like my favorite which by the way There's hope for you Jamal if Hester can win me over you can win me over too But I like how she goes, you know, I just, I haven't had a chance to go really wild yet.

I'm like, what? What? You haven't? This isn't really wild yet. Yeah. It's pretty crazy already. She's like, I know that I have immunity, so now I can go as hard as possible and really shake up fashion.

Oh, God. But still, like, I don't hate it. Right. So then there's like a knock at the door and like production has like forced up PA to dress up in like a tuxedo and give them a message which is an invitation to see Carly Clause for breakfast with champagne and caviar or something like that. Yes. So, uh, Sonya is just like, oh, I mean, I'm whatever. I don't need anything fancy but God, I love free food. So I'll go.

She spoke for all of us basically. Yeah. Meanwhile, it's like 7 a.m. barely. And they have to go to like a champagne reception in an hour. Oh, man. This is why I would never want to be on a reality show. So they show up at Brandon's studio and he's taking pictures of Carly. And Carly just starts off in the Carliest of Carly and Carly just starts off in the Carliest of Carly hard poses ever. She's like, oh yeah, like her hips are in one room and then her you know her shoulder isn't the opposite room. Yeah, I think she was like modeling for Grasshopper Vogue. It was just like all like angles and awkwardness. Like Grasshopper Vogue. And he's like, you know, give me something. And she's like, ha ha! Look at my personality.

So they all get to take pictures with Brandon and stuff. And they all say surreal a lot. And then Carly's like, gather brown. We just didn't bring you here for champagne and caviar. We want you to make a look that prices. Olegance. Olegance. It's the new black. That is not a very elegant thing to say, by the way, it's a cheap thing to say. Isn't black always isn't like black like the the unofficial color of elegance, by the way. Yeah, that's standard and stage management. But you know, both. Yeah, it's like a little black dress or whatever.

Yeah, we want you to make elegant outfits for stage managers. Yeah, and then she's like, I'm gonna start elegance as stage manager clothes. Like that. And then we see Brandon's work. We see runway shots of Brandon's work. And look, I'm no fashion

Easter, but that just looked like a bunch of tight-fitting satin, you know, prom dresses to me personally, but whatever you do. I have to say, I'm honestly still not sold on Brandon as a judge. I think that what this iteration of Project Runway is really missing, and I've set up a four, we need an old queen. We don't need a like 32 year old queen with graying hair. We need an actual old queen on this show. Someone's been around. Someone can be like, Oh, yes, I remember I had got with Calvin Klein and the Hamptons back in 1987 talking about Sheila E and going down on one of the right-said Fred guys before they made it big. You know, like, that's what I want to hear. Yeah, I'm for that. I'll second that. So, Brandon is like, um, this challenge is about restraint.

Benny. And now they're all over Benny because he made that search outfit last week, which, you know, was terrible. Yeah, it was terrible. I almost asked him about it. I almost wanted to say, what were you thinking when you made that? But I was like, I'm not going to be a total bitch. But like, it was one of the worst things of the season. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Vanny, I know you're not listening. But in case you are, it was terrible. So he's like, um, and the last challenge I had trouble showing restraint and we're like, yeah, pretty much. And then we should be, I'm only bringing that up because it leads to a need to clip going restraint restraint restraint that is the mantra for you it's also the name of my new restaurant we only serve peas and you only get three of them

restaurants restaurant restaurants restaurants So Carly's like, nope, look, it's complete with a perfect hot bag. And there's all these like glass button bag things and they're filled with props. And so they have to pick one to inspire their designs. Yeah. And mid-season twists, the button bag that they've been using all season long was actually part of Brandon's collection. And he had Ros Roseanne them. Yeah, there's context.

There's nothing more basic than that. My spring runway featured Roseanne. Like, I know. So, um, so I got picks, um, uh, one of the, one of the bags that has like, uh, pink rhinestone headphones, and she's like, these are a lot different than what I would normally do, but like what I normally do doesn't seem to be getting me very far, so I thought I'd

try something different. Which point I was like, okay, so you're probably going home. Because- Yeah, and also it's not really different. I mean, Sparkly, Rhyne Stone headphones is not really different than what you've been doing. I know she hasn't done a lot of Sparkly things, but she's done a lot of, like, yeah, it's like a rocker, a rocker look, you know,

so unleather and pleather. So I wouldn't think that would be so crazy. I thought she would kick ass at this. I know I had a bad feeling. I feel like she's been falling apart recently and I just, I did not see for some reason. I saw those headphones and I thought this is not going to work out well. I saw this next prop, the tiny bust. I was like, oh no, because of course, Lila picks that, you know? Of course. I don't know what, I don't even know why we both said of course, like it's like so hard, you know?

It's like, oh my god, I've watched all of the movies about the white cream. Like, this is totally me. Yeah, yeah, it's like, we don't talk about Lila that much, but when she did pick it, it's like, of course, Lila we don't talk about Lila that much, but when she did pick it It's like of course Lila way to go Lila. Yeah, it was very Yeah, white queen and by the way, I know jokes for those because I've read every single one of those So it's historical fiction novels. I love those books

What did she think when she was going through all of this? I'm like gas batch But still I'll tell you what you're thinking What did she think when she was going through all of this? I'm like, yes, batch. Okay. I'll tell you what you were thinking. I'll tell you what that white queen was thinking. Restraint. Restraint. Restraint. Restraint.

Here's what she was thinking. Beheading. Beheading. Beheading. I love the guillotine. I love the executioner. I love the pant. The neck cut was so gentle. The way you cut it, it was like a nice slice and when through it was clean, I love it. I could eat it up. So Sebastian takes an orchid because he loves making curvy like flowy things out of karate belt style

Yeah, sewing and then bishmay takes like there's like a Hand that's like a robin's egg blue or perhaps that Tiffany blue which Sort of was funny to me because he later on has problems of like trying to like crack the elegance of it all I'm like it's Tiffany blue. It's Tiffany's You know, yeah. Then he, then he takes the Rose. Jamal takes a perfume bottle. Renee takes lemons and limes. Hester takes peacock feathers. Renee lemon and lime. How can she make a shawl to represent this? Because Renee loves just taking a big piece of fabric and throwing it over the shoulder and then she wins. So whatever.

She really does. She loves it. She did. She did. She loves like a big, it's not just even a shot. It's like a big, heavy, woolen thing all around the shoulders and neck. And Hester takes peacock feathers. Tessa takes money because she's well, the last two are Tessa and Garo Sparrow. Garo, yeah. Garo Sparrow. And by the way, also, Garo has also gone to the bottom of my

list, not as far as Jamal, because I'm getting a little, I'm a little over his corset thing, you know, because like a few episodes ago, he's like, of are kind of my thing. And then I started to realize like every episode, he makes a course. Yeah. And he's real snotty too. Yeah. And I love that he and Tessa hate each other. I think that's pretty fun because Tessa's kind of a monster too. Yeah. And so she's pissed because he take he gets to pick first and he takes like a silver brush and no she picked she actually picks first. pick first and he takes like a silver brush and you know she picked she actually picks first who's left. Oh, okay. She picks first, but she goes they're like, they're like, so Tessa has a feel to be in the final two, which is like, well, it's not so much about the props. It's just that it's more the models more than anything. Cause I mean, they're just like,

they're just like big fat models. I mean, who could put clothes on a big fat model? I mean, it's ridiculous. What do you want me to do? Just get a tarp? What do you want me to do? I mean, these models, when they sit around the house, they sit around the house. So that's all I'm saying. It's like she's like making yo mama jokes. Okay, I get that, you know, there's two schools of thought on this. I get that they're designers and as people who've watched tons of project run way over the courses of the past two decades or over the course of the past two decades,

I get that that's always a thing. They always have a big women challenge and then everybody freaks out because they don't know, they only know how to design for dress forms, right? And so this season they're changing it up and stuff. And so I know on a normal season, people wouldn't freak out at test of this much. But bitch, the whole reason we're doing this or they're doing

this is so that we're celebrating everybody. You know what I mean? It's kind of the point of the season is celebrating all kinds of women and all different shapes. And the fact that you're still gonna be a dick about it. And we're also like six or seven episodes in. And so like you had to know you were eventually gonna get Asia or the other girl. So, you know, you probably should have started thinking

about like when that time comes, how do you adjust, what do you do for it? You know, I mean, I think also, I mean, one thing I do appreciate is, again, she's used to designing in a certain sort of way, and that there's a lot more considerations that, you know, and it's like a limited amount of time. But like, even that being said, other designers have done great jobs for Asia and the other girl. So, like, it was just a little, not, it was not a strong moment for her, especially coming from her because she's so basic. I mean, I know that

they're like, oh my God, that's amazing because she does a really good job of tailoring and stuff like that. But she's like Contemporocasuals, okay? There's nothing interesting about Tessa. You can find that. She's a minimalist. She says that. She's a minimalist. So therefore, I feel like, right, It's not like she's making What has to make you can make slacks, you know what I mean like you're not a small like you're gonna make anything crazy Anyway, Tessa you can just go make your fucking jacket and slacks for anybody that you're gonna either I don't know It just like don't dress like iron garden and then act like you don't know how to dress a plus size woman, okay? Yeah, look geodas personality. They're a geodas personality doesn't know how to dress a plus size woman, okay? Yeah. Look, Geo does personality. There are Geo, yeah, Geo does personality doesn't come out of

Ina Garten's mouth, you know? Like, thank you. I think my fifth network shot separated. Thank you. That's a really strong point. Okay. We do. We, it's like, if you're going to have Ina Garten here, you better have Ina Garten personality. We don't want no jot jot up in here. Yes.

So she's, you know, except an Anne Borel. By the way, I would accept Anne Borel personality for mine garden bangs. Oh my God, I would accept Anne Borel. I wish Anne Borel was the bigger model. Just yelling. Anne Borel would be sass. She's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like How are we, how are we doing designing for me? Are we gonna do this, Tessa? Is this what we're going for? Is this what we're thinking, Tessa? No, we're not gonna dress up like this, Tessa. So she bitches about it and Garo is all offended. And he's like, you know, I got the girl, you know, I get the girl, everyone's afraid to get,

she's tall and she's curvy, but you know what? I'm gonna get her the best runway she's ever had. And I was like, we'll see, you know yeah but I'm like your attitude yeah so the twist is they have oh branding gets bitchy with with Tessa saying that he's like I'm just gonna take a moment to give you a note that when people come in to ask you for fashion you're supposed to make them feel good no matter who they are, okay? And test is like Yeah, so so so so she wants to she has a thing full of cash and then Garo has like a silver mirror And it's like by the way this challenge is gonna be a flash sell challenge

Everyone's like whoa as if like anyone sold any of this shit on Bravo, you know? Yeah, so I have to sell all the shit later So then they got a mood. Oh wait and before that though Carly is like And designers you're going to have a four hundred dollars for this look and two days and everyone's like Yes, and then Brandy goes and don't worry.'t worry, Tessa, the money in your, in your bag is fake. So you don't even, so you don't have an upper hand here. And Tessa's like, fuck. No, I know he said I wrote, you don't have an epigee. Oh, for hand.

No, he basically was like, you don't have an advantage here. Tessa. And so she was like, oh shit. I like that. I like that. You don't have an epigee for hand here. You don't have an epipan, epipan here. Okay. And I'm allergic way better. You don't have an epigee for hand tier. You don't have an epic pan epic pan here, okay, and I'm allergic to you And she's so much like I never should have said anything not because it's totally

Fitnessy of me, but because they're gonna ding me later. Yeah so they're gonna mood and Christians like remember make it look expensive Christians like remember make it look expensive And Hester's like okay, I've been thinking about this for a while an evening gown made out of paces Real expensive real chic So good and I was impressed because I really thought that it was gonna look like a Twister board thought she was just going to get a bunch of little round stickers and just cover the model. Yeah. Yeah, I thought it was going to be some weird like care bear thing. I don't know. I didn't even know

what it was going to be like. I just knew. I had like visions of Skittles and Reimbows and I don't know. So yeah, everyone's getting their stuff and Bishmaze. Bishmaze is saying that he wants to do a blouse with a high low skirt and then he's like, because the handishmaze, Bishmaze is saying that he wants to do a blouse with a high-low scur, and then he's like, because they hand in the box, it's like, to me it means it's reaching for elegance. I was like, no. I don't think for a better version of yourself. No, it's like use the blue.

Like use the blue, make something elegant with that color that speaks of like Tiffany or like Faberj eggs or something like it's pretty clear, you know. Yeah, the fabric he picked was very 80s office worker, like it was very 80s secretary, it was very 9 to 5. It really was without the good music. Yeah, without Dolly, which was point. Without a copy machine that like sends Xerox across the, across the room. Did he catch the bitch bitchy clerk? She's like, I hope to see you next week. As they checked out to Leela. Yeah. I was like, oh, did she just, did she just curse Leela? She's just like shady cursing everybody. She has like strange old lady spills, but she can

never, she can't use them to eliminate people from Project Run Lady. Run, run way. So everybody starts working in the workroom and Vinnie's like, restraint, restraint, restraint. Why can't I stop thinking of that word? Like, is your brainwash now? Restrain, restraint, restraint. I'm in your head. I'm in your psyche. I'm in your brain. And leave us like I'm gonna do a corset line on the outside but then organises sleeves like a Greek revival. I was like, okay, settle down Archimedes. So then Jamal is like, I'm gonna do a very simple construction, which is what he says every single week. Yeah, I'm just gonna do something simple.

Um, we do some bell bottom pants. I'm like, sir, elegance, sir, he's like, bell bottom pants. Uh, and I was already like, fuck him to my own. Of course, he's gonna do another like, lady suit. That's gonna be like very boring. And then Tessa does her favorite thing, which is go over to Judge Hester and give her dirty looks. Yeah.

She's like trying to be the new Tim Gun, you know, so she's looking over at her stuff and has to say, um, I'm going for like peacocking because she has a peacock feathers. And she's like, what is that? She goes, it's one of the strict guy does something stupid to attract women. And Tessa just gives her the dirtiest look. She's like, no one's tried to peacock me before. I mean, you would think that when I go out at night to the club, wearing a Miller's outfit, I would get more peacocking, but apparently not.

How people loved that Miller's outfit from last week. I actually liked it. You know why? I sidebar, because we didn't talk about last week. Last week's challenge was that they had to dress that they had to come up with fashionable video game outfits, but they were not supposed to be costumes. And what really pissed me off about last week was that like everyone designed people they they could not differentiate video game character from superheroes. And so a lot of times, I think it was Bishmay was like, my lady is the queen of hearts, and she can like, she killed someone at the church

or whatever, it just, it bothered me that they were not understanding the video game, and Tessa's really did look like a video game character from like an RPG or something, like she's like the Miller's daughter and has to go on a quest. And so I really appreciated that because everything else was very much like anime and very dominatrixie and I just feel like that's not necessarily what video games are all about and thank you for listening to my soapbox moment.

Yeah, you're Ted Talk. I was like really upset about it. Thanks for listening. Thanks for hearing me out people. Well, they loved it. I mean, she sure got a lot of Thanks for listening. Thanks for him. Yeah, people. Well, they loved it. I mean, she sure got a lot of She almost won that. Yeah, I was like a sack of flour I knew at the entire time I was also laughing because I can imagine you being like really Yeah, I was like an apron and a sack of flour and she's like I want to prove that boys can do what girls can do And I'm like, okay, but a sack of flour. Like, how about bigger things? Yeah, I was just happy that I was just happy that

girl didn't win that challenge because by him putting like his was sort of like a dominatrix, but there was like an X across the boobies. So that way you knew it wasn't about sex. I'm like, yeah, but it's still like a verse. It's still like sexualized. It's still like, okay, a woman can be in a video game, but she still has to be a sexual figure. Like her sexuality is like really like on this,

it's like it's, she's bringing it on her sleeve, which is such a man thing to do. So I was like, I was mad that he was even on the top three and there was a corset. Oh, Gero. Oh, Gero. I don't know, I just couldn't get past it. I just couldn't get past the sack of flour. I'll let you have that.

I'm not even gonna say anything mean about it. But I, I, I, I mean, I support carbs on the runway. I do. Well, nothing says a woman can do what a man can do like baking. You know what I mean? I don't know. I didn't get it. But also, I'm not a huge test of fans. So I was just annoyed, you know, because that was totally coloring my opinion. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap-ins commercial. Raising kids can be one of the greatest rewards of a parent's life. But come on, someday's parenting is unbearable.

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because it's like not, in my mind, it's not supposed to be that literal. Like, what's the story behind this dress? And her like very literal story of a young DJ who also was quiet, but it's powerful, but then it's also going to be wearing an elegant dress. It's like this, this is not, this, this story does not make any sense. I don't get it. It's like Fomka Johnson, you know, like on the turntables, you know, it doesn't work for me. Yeah, young DJ. That's what young people do.

They DJ things. I know. It was like a very out of touch. And like the fact that she has such a wonky story. And then the she wanted to do an asymmetric kimono with like one sleet, I don't know. I was like, Sonya is going down a path that I don't see having a good resolution for.

I know sometimes people just need a garden hose and some pletather, you know? We each have our own challenges in life. So then bitch me freaking out because he doesn't know what he wants to do. And he keeps changing his mind. And he's like, I'm totally heastering this. And she just does that. I mean, changing your mind every five seconds, because that's amazing.

Yeah. It's like totally complemented. So then they'll go back to the apartment and then we see them like we're remembering about that fun time they did a photo shoot in the morning. I'm like, see, I'm not sure these episodes really need to be 90 minutes long, but if we're just going to watch them like sit around while they're hot pockets heat up in microwave and they talk about remember when we hung out with Carly Claus this morning, you know, yeah, they could definitely trim bad a little bit.

Yeah, and so Jamal's talking with Garo Sparrow and Sonia and he's like, you know, like I just like really admire you guys because you guys are in business and like, I'm young. I'm still doing my art. Yeah, he admires you so much. He's like totally shading them. He's like, I mean, it must be nice to be old and all about the money when I'm still all about my art. And that's such an excuse that people say on the show when they're failing

It's like well, you know, that was what what's his button said who left a couple of co-beat? Yeah, he's like, oh, but I'm about my art and it's like, okay, you know, but you still have to do it well It's like no one's telling you like no one literally no one has told anybody on this show I don't want you to put your artistic work into this. It's a show about your artistic work. Right. If your art is making Victorian street wear for a Dapper Dan challenge, then we have to re-examine your art. Yeah, it's just on this little day. I'm sorry. It's just on the easy answer to be like, oh, well, they just don't get my art. No, you're just not doing a great job.

Yeah, it's the only time it's know, the only time it's ever, the only time it's ever acceptable to say that is when people say they don't listen to watch our crap and I'm like, well, they just don't get our art. Then it's totally fine to say it. Yeah. So let's, I just say it's because I'm fat. So,

Oh, I'm just kidding. I play, we all have our things that it's excuse excuse like that guy doesn't like me. He's fat. I So Jamal's whining again about being an artist. Okay. Yeah, so work room. They have 10 hours to go day two Tesla has basically made it's like if somebody it's like when people tried to catch Dumbo You know, I was like what are you doing? You know, she's like, let's spread this over the city and we'll get her. Like, what are you doing, so it's like she found a manta ray, killed it, poked a hole in it and it's like, okay, Asia, put your head through that.

Yes, pretty much. And then she's trying to tie stuff around like she's, she made it kind of a hanging belt thing that ties around it. I mean, it's just bad. So she's dressing. Yeah, it's just bad. So she's stressing, yeah. It's like they're going to say that I didn't compliment her body. I'm like, you're literally not complimenting her body on purpose. Yeah.

So why don't you, if you know that's what they're going to say, how about you compliment her body? It's like a really easy thing to anticipate. You're already anticipating it. So do something about it. And then she says, I don't know if she said it here or another part, but she's like, you know, my, I really, with this challenge with the curvy model, I just have been like really thinking about my mother. And she always has these big oversized

jackets. And she like rocks it. I'm like, the fact that your mom is going to be the inspiration of the elegance challenge. This is where like, like, like, over like, like plus size, I almost had oversized. That's so obnoxious of me. I apologize, and I'm gonna slap myself plus size women curvy women Like why do they have to be relegated to like the mom is like the fashion icon for that? I don't know is just I'm also a poor mom's like thanks a lot Moms like I didn't realize this was an oversized jacket. Um, so then Garo, of course, the only one who could be more annoying about it.

And I feel like I'm being very pessimistic and cynical this episode, but it's fashion. I think that goes like parcel. Have you, Garo, are you new to the show or? I think so. I think so. I was like, I'm going to be a sunny, curly cloth today.

And then it turns out I'm random, Maxwell, after all. Have you never listened to your own show that you've done almost a thousand episodes of? You fucking weirdo. Every now and then I have a crisis of conscious. Like, am I getting too cynical? David. David. So, you know, opposite we are.

I'm like, God, I've really softened up. I know. Well, I think we're like learning from each other, you know? So. Oh, it's our art, okay. It's our art. I know well, I think we're like learning from each other, you know, so Okay, it's our art guys if you don't appreciate the cynicism. It's my art. So Garo talking about his art. He's like Watching Tesla talk about this. It's like ridiculous because like in my studio We build things for all sizes small corsets medium corsets large corsets corsets, medium corsets, large corsets,

corsets for corsets, whatever you need, corsets. He pretty much said that too, which is hilarious. And yeah, we felt like every size corsets, like you strap a man and you just tie this tie that it'll go. It's also kind of a way to avoid ever fitting someone properly, you know? Yeah, I'm like, yeah, but if you can just make a one size fits many thing and then just tie it to how it's supposed to fit. It's kind of an easier answer, buddy. And of course, it's inherently a fat, shaming fashion statement.

It's like, okay, we're going to just squeeze you in and make you look as thin as possible and make you look busty on top, right? Girl, some people see that as something bad. I see that as a blessing from the Lord. Like, and me, of course it. I know, I would like a little, a, like a man corset. Yeah, bring on the manks. Okay, I mean.

So then Tessa is shading him right back because she can read shade, because you know, a shade writer is a shade reader. because she can read shade because you know a shade writer is a shade reader. So she knows that he's shading her and she's like um well, Garo is like going a little bit he's going about this a little bit different hold on trying to find her quote here. She's he's going about this a little bit differently than I am, you know, some people are good with showing the body and some really aren't,

like saying that she's not, and she's like, but his or just corsets and they're kind of cost to me. Yeah, you're not wrong, but it's like Contempo casual getting mad at, you know, Fredrick's of Hollywood or what? I mean, actually, it's like the most interesting thing happening. So, so now a question shows up. He starts talking to people and he's like looking at Sonia's because she has like a dress so far. And he's like, oh, this looks pretty. This is pretty.

And then she's like, yeah, and I'm thinking I'm doing a one-sided kimono also. And he's like, I'm a little nervous about that. Yeah. No, bad idea, bad idea. And then Hester's like, I'm obsessed with making pasties Fashionable like they're gonna be amazing. I'm gonna make pasties elegant and he's like Yeah, this needs to be photographed for the flash sale

You know that flash doesn't mean Flash take off your clothes We don't have to have an actual Nip slip in the flash sale. Yeah. So, he saves Hester. I mean, I don't know. I'm sure everybody's notices because they hit us over the head with it.

But every week, he comes in and he's like, no, don't do that. Do this. And he gives her an idea that she does and she wins. Yeah, you're right. I didn't think about that. It's time she didn't. This time, he didn't give her a specific idea, but he definitely warned her. And she ignored him, you know, to your own pale man.

Yes, man. So then she is, so he's giving her his advice and then he like turns around and Tessa's like right there like, hello. She's like, what are you doing? Anything? She's like, nothing, I was? Anything? She's like, nothing. And I was just listening.

He's like, get out of here. Go. Get a little vampire. Go away. Yeah, get out of here, bangs. Dracula, Garten. Come on. Get out of there.

So she's like, I was waiting for you. OK, I got money. Talk about elegant, which you know, Tessa, if you can't do it, blame the challenge always. And you know what? In retrospect, well, I guess I could mention this later. I'm actually in now because I may forget. I actually don't see how that the cash was represented at all in her look.

None. I can't believe they let her get away with this shit. I really can't because she totally got off scot free. I've actually been like a Tessa fan. I've been a T a fan and I actually thought this was like a real disaster on her part. It was terrible. It was offensively terrible.

And so Christian tells her, that's a Mumu. So underneath needs to be refined and clean and then she opens it and I'm like, oh, it's your typical shit, but more terrible, you know. Yeah, it was terrible. So he also goes check out Bishmaze and bishmade is like He's got like this skirt the high-low skirt and then he's like trying to figure out these He's having issues about should it be this pattern or that pattern and this is where I had that moment

I'm like dude like you have totally messed yourself up because you have this like this color that is like sort of iconic with With jewelry and like you just haven't even leaned into even some of that So I was getting mad. Well, it's not really mad I was just like feeling like patting myself in the back for being like clever coming up with a clever idea for once I was like if I were designing it it would have just been like a Sheet of of teal with and and like some pockets and it would have been fabulous And I would win and he's like I just don't know what to do in Christian goes of Teal and like some pockets and it would have been fabulous. And I would win and he's like,

I just don't know what to do in Christian goes, I think that you do know what to do. I was like, okay Yoda. So Jamal is next and Christian's like, we're in Maslan again. Oh Maslan again. I was like, yeah, thanks. Oh, it's my signature.

He didn't say that, but like, my mind is like anybody could do this. Okay. Yeah. And he's like, but they said it's about restraints. Like that was not your note. A, and B. This is not elegant. And so Jamal's depressed. He's like, I filled in Dapper Dan and I filled in the video game challenge. And if I'm on the bottom again, I don't know if I'm actually gonna stay And he's like um get the mouse and out of your head and draper's fabric for Christ's sake Jesus Christ I could I could come in here in a few hours and you could have a totally different thing and I hope that for you He's like he's like honestly like a sweatshirt and shorts would make me happy at this point like Do you do not make another lady suit out of muslin.

No more. Christians advice is very good. He's giving them very good advice. He really is. And then Jamal is acting like he has now has to face down the hardest challenge of all. This guy who always talks about how we just graduate college and he has his own line. He's like, well, I guess I'm going to drape. I'm not used to draping.

I'm like, you know, you have a fashion show. You are like this, like wonder child, wonder kids, whatever, and you can't drape, sir. Sure, I'm annoyed. You can't drape with this fabric. So he's like, time to break out of my comfort zone. So then the models come in and Sebastian, look, Sebastian is extremely talented

and I'm really loving his detailing. And I know that everyone has kind of a Not a gimmick, but they're thing they're niche or whatever. Mm-hmm. Is that karate belt so and it does you can't do that every time Like do something else, you know what I mean tell me tell me I don't know how a karate belt is so it looks It has like let's say it's a three inches of fabric and then it's got little tiny Lines sewn all the way through it. So make any sense Yeah, it doesn't on every single thing. He does it on all of his collars all of his shoulder You know his cuffs his shoulders and some he makes those wavy things with them

He makes and I like and I he uses it for his structuring, which is cool. It's a cool look, but he does it every single time. I'm just like trying to figure out how to channel my rage that you are coming after my dear sweet Sebastian right now, and I'm just like, I'm just getting cool. I love him, but I also really love keeping my look. You know that you know that I'm actually more angry. And I think that when I find a good cleaning lady, I wanna keep her. You know what I mean?

I don't want her being like, look, suddenly I'm a fashion designer. No, like you're finally cleaning my house well. I think I'm actually less angry that you're coming for Sebastian and more angry that you're going to make me see something that I cannot unseek for going forward, which is really, I really should be thanking you.

Like a Roddy Bell sewing technique. A Roddy Bell, which probably has a real name, like Roushing or whatever, they always say like, oh, that's Roushing, but I don't really know what Roushing is. But it's probably something like that. It's probably like a computer open right now and I refuse to look it up. So that's probably like a, it has probably like a French word like, You know, it's probably like it has probably like a French word like Velou Fonte

It's a velou Fonte Like Vellou Fonte, but it's called Vellou Fonte Yeah, I like that. That's actually a really nice word for it. Yeah, I've been oh, so he's doing his classic. He's doing Vellou Fonte again Classic Vellou Fonte. There he goes Okay, so he's doing that. Oh, yeah, I got by the way, get ready for a week's worth of people telling us what that kind of stitching is. Here we go. So Christian comes in again and Jamal's like, oh my god, I'm freaking out. I changed my entire design and Christian's like, oh my god.

This is the whole new world. This is fabulous. So exciting, it's so different. I'm like, look, this looks like a girl who just woke up in the morning, realizing she slept for somebody, she didn't even know, didn't remember, and grabs the sheet and is trying to leave.

And I know that's not the fashion. But she made it fashion. But yeah, but she made it fashion. I don't know, but I was glad that he was happy, I guess. Yeah, Christian was like, was good. And now Jamal's like, oh, I'm pointing myself or maybe Christian said that either way. Meanwhile, Sonia is like doing that thing.

And she's like, oh, I got so much to do. I have to put my lining in. I gotta do the hem. I still have to make that kimono. And you could just see Christians like, please don't make the kimono. Please don't make the kimono. Please don't make the kimono. I hate the kimono.

I know that God, I wish she had kind of. She needed something ultimately. But I also don't know like at this point, Sonya, again, like I feel like there's always gonna be a challenge where someone's gonna have time issues. It just happens, but she's been having time issues a lot and it's getting a little old. Yeah.

So now Tessa's working with Asia. And so she put Asia in this weird, like it's basically like an oversized pancake that has two straps. And like the straps, like the sleeves. And then there's like this weird thing where she has to take her hands out the sleeves and then tie them around her stomach.

So they cinch in this weird way, but it's going to be a reveal. It was just like, I hate it all of it. I did too. And I hated how she, she wasn't being outwardly mean, but she's like, okay, take these straps and tie them. Tie them tighter. Tie them tighter because she's trying to act like she's done anything to compliment this woman's figure.

So she's trying to make her figure exactly with a belt. I mean, she's just offensive to compliment this woman's figure. So she's trying to make her figure Exactly with the belt. I mean She's just offensive on so many levels to me. I was expecting Garo to like walled spine say hmm seems like she needs of course it Am I right? Am I right? So it's time up and Missionary screwed and Sonya screwed And at the morning In the morning Hester is hilarious. She's like, all confident now.

And she really probably thinks she's gonna win with this Pacey thing. She's just got blue hair and like a three-pronged dog collar or a three-ringed dog collar on. Yeah. She's got like a weird like SNM elegance. I don't know what she's doing right there. And then Jamal, now Jamal is like Mr. Draping.

And he's like going on about about the draping, just so boring. And he's like, you know, I just feel really good about the shape that just just like organically came on like as if it was like his idea to drape it all along. Come on now. Yeah, I found myself. Well, I hope Christian keeps following you around so you can keep yourself seriously. So now they go to mom way the model yeah, and Girls like well are garros like Yeah, Kate feels amazing and test this curvy model on the other hand not into it I mean the hem is an even finished really top 10 and she still has bad hams like you have a course at every time Do not make me stick up for the Flora Sack lady. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Like you were doing the exact thing that

you have like been doing for 20 years and you're going to get mad that someone's like trying something different that they're not used to and then their hammers and quite ready yet when you were the one who couldn't line up your stripes a few weeks ago. Yes, Barrow. Yeah. Um, so, uh,, and meanwhile, Hester is like looming pasties onto her model. And I also kind of feel like, you know, Hester got to choose,

you know, they got to, they got to choose their models earlier. And I kind of feel like if I were going to do a pasty forward design, I think I'd want like a little bit of a bustier woman, right? Is that me? Or is that crazy? Well, she didn't do a good job with those pasties. That's a good darn sure. They were huge.

It looked like a disease. I mean, maybe it was because of the color too, but even if you like lime green and like kind of falling off, I guess she couldn't really sew them on because I think there's so much precision that's involved with the pasty, you know, you can't really be a like a centimeter or an inch off, you know, especially on TV. She could have so though, I mean, it didn't even matter because what she, the actual pasty was terrible. It was that is the same fabric as the dress and it wasn't made for that. And so she has to hem in them.

It just looked. They looked weird. She should be and weird. She should have, like, at least there weren't tassels, but, you know, they're, she could have, I feel like she could have made the pasties a little bit more interesting. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Like maybe tassels. Yeah. And then there's like, uh, so they're getting their models in and Sonya is like, there's a throughout all this, by the way, there's

like a running commentary from Sony about like when she gonna do her Camono when she gonna make the Camono and now she's like I'm getting rid of the Camono I'm like literally none of us care no one wanted the Camono in the first place Yeah, and then later when we see what it was gonna be because she ended up using it as kind of a scarf She did the scarf the outside as black and inside is hot pink and I'm like oh good It's like I actually kind of like the idea of youth is like the pink ladies from Greece, you know, it's like, I'm running you're being cruel. It's not youth. It's a very elegant but quiet DJ at a party. Very shy DJ who is just focused on poise and

Spending some good beats So then Benny can't finish properly because the zipper breaks and so he's got to keep his hot pink address on the model And he's like, okay, well, don't sit down. Yeah, don't take this off ever and don't have lunch Okay, great. They also they also like cheese this moment all week like him saying like the zipper broke and it was give this whole thing And then when it finally happens like oh, okay, okay, well Yeah, so now there's like now it's makeup and they're doing their photoshoots for the For the flash sale etc and like last touches and then finally it's time for the runway show and like last touches and then finally it's time for the runway show. Run, wait.

So, bitch, what's up first? And I also have to say this, Carly Claus comes out and I always feel like whatever she wears is supposed to be sort of like a reference to the look of the week and she's wearing like a suit but like no shirt just like a bra. It was sort of reminding me like a little Madonna. I was like, again, I always have to remind people I'm not a fashion gay, but that did not read as elegant to me. That red is like, yeah, like, it wasn't bad.

It was like a jacket in the bra. Yeah, I just feel like she should have worn like an actual elegant dress or something. Her outfits aren't great. I think in general, she hasn't had really any stoners. I didn't actually, I really liked her big like it was camel hair thing that's on the outdoor challenge she had that big thing with flaps I liked that a lot actually um I don't remember that but I just think a lot of times she looks like kind of a cheap dollar store coffee filter so the runway so this me comes out I'm thinking of that pink thing that pink thing. See what it was like coffee filter is Well, either way, so bishmay so bishmay's model comes out and

It was weird because it looked like it did not look elegant to me. It looked like it was like Pam going to the office, you know She works at your ox corporate. I love the blouse. I love the back of what it did. But yeah, it was not really elegant. It was like kind of nice office wear. Exactly. It was very off the sea. It was like, my ham is so dressed up. Like maybe it was because the back was a little work, you know. So maybe it was too dressy for an office. Also, if you have to sit down all day, it had a lot of back work on it. And you're like, why would Pam wear that? Oh, it's Dave's birthday. Do you think this is a plan to impress Dave on this birthday?

God fuck you, Pam. Someone's nervous. Like is there a presentation today that I know? Oh, oh, it's Dave's birthday. Pam, she has a thing for Dave. Hey, have you guys noticed that Pam's back for it today? It's because she can't lean back in her chair because she doesn't want to mess up her Dave's birthday shirt And I guarantee you she can take a slice of cake at 4 p.m. But she won't eat it because she doesn't want Dave to see her Yeah, I felt like it just was like there was so much going on and It was just it was it actually really felt like it was people in the office would be like, you know, Pam, like she's trying so hard to be like boss lady right now, but she's got like ruffles in the back and then like a skirt that doesn't match.

Like the look is something that would have made Pam be the, the front of jokes at Xerox. Yeah, totally. And she deserves it, you know, it's like Pam tries, but Pam tries to. She's never going to get Dave. Yeah. Never. So, next up is Garo's. I'm surprised. Yeah, it's fine.

It's like a, I mean, it's fine. I didn't think it was fine because he did it, of course, and then he used something kind of like a satiny kind of material over that, of course, it, and you could see the squares of that, of course corset, you know, like how he cut it. I don't know what it was, but it was like the, I think it was a material he used to cut the corset, was under that satin and it looked like she had big rectangles under her. You know, I didn't see that. It was bad. And I don't know if that was purposeful. Like, oh,

look, it's structure, but it looked... It was bad. For me, it was that when she came down the runway, I thought she looked nice. It wasn't nice. It wasn't like, it wasn't like bombshell, but it was nice. But then when she turned around and it's like a corset peekaboo, I actually thought the corset jeepended.

I thought the corset made it look not elegant. And it did sort of look like a pirate situation back there. As she look like either a pirate or Someone who works at the pub when the pirates come to town, you know, oh Wrench a Wrench thank. I wasn't going to I would you know what? Thank you. She's a wrench. It was a wrench was wrench chic, which is not elegant Yeah, it's like a wrench goes to a wedding Wrench wedding Yeah, it's like a wench goes to a wedding. A wench wedding.

So then his Vanny and he's done a hot pink type fitting tailored dress with these kind of tux pant lines down the sides. And I thought it was fine. I don't know how elegant it was. It didn't feel elegant to me. It felt like casual again, kind of maybe in the modern office party, but like girls snide out. Yeah, it did not feel it was it was a good, I feel like it was a totally office party, but like, girls snide out. Yeah, it did not feel, it was, it was a good,

I feel like it was a totally good dress, but it just was not elegant to me. And then his, what he was trying to do to make it elegant was that the straps in the back, like, because they crossed over each other. And then instead of just like ending when they hit the dress, they kept on going longer. And to me, it reminded me of like the sleeves

on the Zora people from Zelda. Oh yeah, good call. You know, it was like hot pink Zora, Zora Nightwear. They never would have looked like that. Had their zippers not get stuck. I got in stock. And then someone had a pin everything to them at the very last minute. But I thought it was pretty. I think they've been a little because they loved this one. So they went a little overboard on this one, but I thought it was nice. There wasn't a bad dress. I just for me, I didn't totally fit the challenge, but the dress itself was fine. Yeah. So they went a little overboard on this one, but I thought it was nice. I think it wasn't a bad dress. I just for me, I didn't totally fit the challenge, but the dress itself was fine. Yeah. So then who's next? Lila. Lila is next. Where's Lila? Got

it. Oh, I just wrote black and white squares toilet paper shoulder. I wrote black dress with white grid, organza, soup, white hips. There you go. It was, I also thought it was fine. It was not amazing, but it was fine. Yeah, that was okay. It was kind of like a garden trestle, so what do you call it? I didn't really get it. It was fine. I was not getting a lot of Greek revival from it, but it was, it was a, compared to what we've seen so far, it was a little bit more on the, I think that Leila does a really good job. She's just kind of boring, you know? Yeah, she's very middle of the pack. I think she's

going to get weeded out pretty soon. I'll bet I'm going to go ahead and guess right now that she'll be in the top three who gets to show. Oh, one of those people that you're like, she'll be like, always someone who messes up more than her. Right. Well, someone, she'll be in the top three who gets to show. Oh, one of those people that you're like, she'll be like always someone who messes up more than her. Well, someone will show, she'll be able to show, but some, yeah, she'll keep making it because she's always safe and stuff like that. She won't have like a huge mistake. It's good theory and they don't want, you know, three real winners in the end, you know, how can we all bet?

Yeah. So then Sonia, so her, her young DJ, her young quiet DJ comes out and it's like a very simple gray dress. And I think like the dress, it was, it was, it was like what Nina Garcia later says, it's fine, it's safe, you know, it's, it's fine. She has a black and fuchsia sash as we mentioned. I like the pop of color, but Wasn't anything yeah, I was pretty it was pretty boring, but very well made and you know that I know that people are like Well, it was well made, but so what it wasn't very interesting. Yeah, it's kind of a big a big thing to be able to make well-made clothes Especially on a fast show, but you know, I, if you bore them every week, I can get that too. So this cracked me up.

Renee is next. So Renee had these, like, the lemon and limes, which I thought was a great, like, color inspiration. So her model comes out and, like, a pant suit. And it's basically the standard Renee thing, like, like, feels like it's, like, graze and, like, woolens and just, just like heavy and dark and gray. And then there's like, again, there's a bunch of fabric up to the top. And then one of them, one of the pieces of fabric is like a pale yellow scarf or something. And Renee goes, this is the first challenge we're up used to color to this extent.

Like, Renee, it's like a big heavy-ass piece like she always does and it's mustard yellow. It's not lemon yellow. And again, it's not even sewn or anything. It's just thrown over the model and then like belted. Yeah. Come on. You're doing that every week now. How is she not called out for that shit? Yeah. I mean, like it was nice and everything and it did look elegant actually. but like you have lemons and limes Look the lines weren't even there the lines were not even present in this like There's like and then she acts like she put a rainbow on the model I know and then Brandon's a shady queen like us and you know

He was like, oh my god like writing something dirty and he turns over to Nina and looks at her card And he goes, oh my god, really? Stop watching me. Stop it. Not he boy. I don't like your eyes. I don't like your ears. I don't like your opinions.

Your glasses are boxy. They are plastic. So yeah, Renee just got away with that one. I couldn't believe it. So then Hester comes out, Hester's model comes out like lime green I thought the actual skirt part of the dress looked nice. Me too, actually I thought I was one of the most elegant bottom parts of the runway. Yeah, I did too

I think it's you maybe have either a flow top, like maybe in cream, you know, to that dress, but it was that flesh material with the terrible pasties glued to it. And it comes out and branding us, oh my God. Seriously. Yeah. And Elaine just sort of like cocks her head like. Huh. Yeah. And that's her. It's bon bonkers bananas and I wanted to shake elegance to its core. I don't know if she shook it to its core. She just put pasties on it. And then Tess's Contemporotic Casuals comes down and I was a mortified and then she this girl

never learns her lessons. She's like, I think I accomplished elegance, especially with the curvy model Curvy people can be extremely elegant. They're probably more elegant than skinny people Yes, and then meanwhile she's sitting there in like a five-size-as-two-big for her pink sweater like leading back We shut up Tessa. So then This dress this outfit was just fucking terrible. She takes it off It looks like a horrible Bollyester pant suit. The pants don't fit. Then she turns around and she's done cut

out in her back right where you have back fat. You know what I mean? It's just offensive. The whole thing is it's offensive. It was just it was not elegant. It was it was very, you know, in the photo that she took for the flash sale, she looks sort of elegant in the photo. I'm not gonna take that away, but the reveal was like not a good reveal and they of course, like, I don't know if it was at this moment or later on,

they kept it, they like specifically showed us footage of Asia having to pick up like the thing from below. So when she picked it up, it was like an awkward angle and the straps were falling off and you could see like back rolls and everything. It's just like not not like that. You know, she highlighted all the worst parts because she just she only knows how to do one thing. And so she's going to just keep doing it on whoever they give her. And also while we're at it, I don't really think it's fair to just have a couple of bigger models because it makes it mean.

It makes the show kind of inherently mean when there, when someone's always upset that they're getting the big model, you know, I don't like that. Like maybe they should have a spin off. Yeah, I don't know. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good. It's a good because I think it just, I don't know, it's, it's, it gets offensive sometimes. Like I feel guilty sometimes watching it

when people are so mean to them, you know. Well, maybe in future seasons, it won't be a much of an issue because the season, it was like, they changed it up, so people were not expecting it. So they're like reacting in the way it's. Like the people have to take shit,

it seems like every single week is just, especially Asia. Yeah, no, it's, it is, it's, but it's like, if you, but then if you do like a spin off with just all plus size, then that's also kind of like, no, it's it is. It's it's but it's like if you but then if you do like a spin-off with just all plus size Then that's also kind of like well, okay, it's like marginalizing in a certain way Well, but it's also welcome to America. I mean that's that's a huge you know It's hard because the fashion industry like all those runway shows are all like toothpicks walking down

So do they want it has to still like be like it has to still represent fashion. So it has it's like fashion legitimacy. So you do have to have all the toothpicks on this show too. But then at the same time, it wants to like change things up. So you also want to have some curvy girls. But if you have too many curvy girls, it's going to start to feel like Americans next top model. Not that that was a lot of curvy girls, but like, it's like, okay,

we're watching a quote unquote modeling show, but this does not feel like it has anything to do with like the real world of modeling, you know. So, like, there's, you know, there's a huge population out there that needs these clothes and you want to talk about marginalized, there's nowhere to shop, you know, there's like these, there's a couple of chains where you can go, but otherwise, you know, you're struggling to find your size and yes, I did did have to buy something for weddings on upset, but it's like, where am I going to go? The fucking big and tall store. There's like nowhere. And I know we're talking about women here, but I'd imagine that it's way worse, you know, obviously it's going to be way worse for them, you know, so maybe it's, it's time. They're already marked. We're already marginalized.

So give us stores, you know, with the fact that the point? Yeah, I actually think that there's actually better plus size options for women than there are for men, to be honest. I think that like, when it comes like it's a fightin' for it, you know? Yeah, I'm not saying that like, for sure, it's like really shitty out there for plus size women, but like it's also like,

like I went into Rochester once, and I was like, whoa, whoa, this is like, it is like not that is not cute It's all like very old and like it's like a shiny polo shirt type of shit It's like terrible and I was traumatized shopping, you know And I know we're not talking about men or anything and I know that I'm big and like part of it's like Well, how did I get this big that I can't even fit like regular clothes from a store and part, you know My way of looking at it. It's like, it's my, it's my fault.

But at the same time, there are big people in the world, you know, we should be able to fucking buy something. Like I can't believe that there's, I know I'm looking around the damn streets. I know I'm not the only one. Okay. So it's like, come on. Yeah. I mean, well, you know, like designers are, are whizing up to it.

And, you know, Christian Cereano actually, I think, I think you know, like designers are rising up to it and you know, Christian Cereano actually, I think I think one of his things is that he, he has been really good about like outfitting, oversized. I keep saying oversized. I can't, it's because we're talking about the oversized jacket, so now oversized is in my head. I'm sorry, it's really offensive that I, that keep saying that. It's like a flub.

I apologize, but curvy plus sized. But like he, he, he, he's been really good about that. And also he's like, that's like been one of his things and, and people are starting to realize, oh, yeah, I guess what? Like there's a whole world of like, like people who are not like the size of a pinky who want to look good and be fashionable. And, and and like just like the pure economics of it, you would think that some of these designers would would just try to cash in on it, you know? Yeah.

Well, I just think that they should either make a spin off or because it's just not it's just not fair, you know, because people have to sit there. You have to feel bad about it and then people sitting at home are feeling bad about it because they just see themselves being represented but then kind of spat apart. It's so fun. I don't think there should be a spin off. I think it should be a mix and that these, it's up to, why should the models be punished

because of the designers like in sensitivity? The designers should get the flag and designers should be the ones that should, they should be the ones that change their they should be the ones to change their perceptions Shouldn't have to shuttle the the models off to their own corner, you know, yeah I just think there's a lot of plus size designers out there and people who are designing for plus women You know plus size people in general There are so I don't know. I feel like there it could be a good thing, but that's enough time on that so

next up it it's a hester. Tessa. Tessa. Oh, we're talking about that. So Sebastian again. So Sebastian. Yeah, I like Sebastian's. I mean, he always does good work, although he had these like little, his was like a pink thing, like a light pink thing. And he put these like little mouse ears

on the shoulders, which I thought were really cute, but they did remind me of little mice ears. Yeah, that's his, his thing,, though, that's a karate belt style. Like, it's like Boric yet to hear something like that. So then Jamal, Jamal's kind of out, and it's fine. I mean, like I said, it looks like a girl who just woke up, but had to run to the bathroom, you know. I actually did not love the pattern of the fabric.

It was sort of like plaid. It was like a plaid. It was like tartan, but it was like a white, I don't know. I just didn't love the pattern, but it was drapey. It was better than it was pretty shit. But I did not like was that he like declares. He's like, this is actually like my most complete look that I've ever done. Yeah. So I'm like, no, Jamal. I don't know. He's just annoying. He's very, really stupid himself. Yeah. This was my favorite ending to a runway so far, because it ends, the music is like,

and then Nina Yons, like really big, she goes, okay. Okay, let's tear these people apart. They don't know a lot of elegance this. So the people who were still. I almost lose it, because Sebastian, Tessa,

Gero and Rene are in. Okay. Yeah. How is Tessa in? I don't know. Honestly, and I don't know how Rene, well, no, Rene was fine. And how is Rene okay with throwing just fabric over the Armageddon? Well, because at least Rene's did look elegant. I do think it looked elegant. Um, she's one of the few that looked actually elegant. It's wrong. I know that Hester's was one of the ugliest, but she has, I like on top chef, and they're like, okay, you have immunity and you're lucky, you do because you're sucked, but get out of here because you have

immunity. And then they let somebody else be on the bottom. Right. Well, I think that has hers was so bad with the pasties that they just could not just let her be like, let people think that that will be middle of the pack. They have to like, you know, reprimand her. So, so now it's time to judge. And Bishmaze is up first and they start, they get mad at Bishmaze because they said like,

restaurant, restaurant, restaurant, and he didn't streamline. And that was the one thing he had to do, I needed the exact opposite. Yeah, and Elaine loves the blouse, but she's like, yeah, the skirt killed it. So then Nina's like the draping, oh, because they go over to, oh, yeah, she tells her, she's like the draping is spectacular, but she didn't like the print. She's like, I see this and I don't see how this is bishmay. Where is bishmay? I don't see bishmay. I don't see your hand. I don't see your foot. I don't see your face. I'm like, who is this? So then Lila, she's like, she, I love that you played with corsetry.

I which love the graphics. Yeah. The I love the white. I love the toilet paper. Um, which I like to hear. And I was like, um, it was my take on Greek revival. And Brandon's like, um, yeah, I would bring that toilet paper into my life. Love that. Um, Garo must have been so furious that, uh, that Nina complemented Lila's corsetry.

He is so mad, I bet. I am the corset queen. I also like, again, I, I just hate a literal story. And when she said, this is a woman going to a Venetian ball. I'm like no, I'm sorry I reject that fully She doesn't look like she's going to Venetian ball. She doesn't look like she's going to any ball. Oh Carly out Hester You're ready to tell us a whole lot of things Hurt pose

Hester's like I think there's nothing more elegant than going topless Hester's like, I think there's nothing more elegant than going topless. So, you know, I had immunity and I had a big budget. So I just want to make something really annoying. They cut to Tessa's face backstage just horrified. I just want to try to agree with the the topless is elegant, but, you know, so basically they're they're all over her for this, you know, the taffeta, the taffeta, um, bass, these are terrible. Um, and he knows like a little detail, like the pasties can make or break you. Uh, and then Brandon's like this was like disrespectful

to all your other work. Yeah. And probably it like, I love it because you don't give a fuck. Yeah. So then we go over to Jamal and Jamal goes, well, this week I took a more organic approach to how I make my look. I actually changed my whole entire process. I'm like, because Christian told you to don't act like you had an aha moment that this like came like from within. He's like, yeah, I changed my whole profit.

It's draping, it's draping. I know even just from watching project runway that that's pretty standard, okay? Yes, oh my God, I just got so mad. I really felt like he was acting as if he dug deep and had this moment of inspiration and thought, you know what, I'm gonna change it all up. Christian literally said to you, drape this shit.

Take some fabric and drape things. Some of the favorite things they've had of Hester's have been Christian's ideas. You know, it's like, oh the backpack. It's like a Christian's idea. Yeah. Most of the stuff that they love, because Christian's very talented, you know.

So he's been like, help win it for whoever wins it. I know he, I know, and I know he has helped, but it just feels like Jamal was just really talking in a way as if like, it came from within. And as opposed to, I don't know, like there was a way in which he presented it that I felt was not, I thought it was misleading. Yeah, totally.

So then Jamal's like all into himself. And then Jamal's like my grandmother instilled as they can send me. And of course Brandon loves that because he designs for his mother, basically, as he's already told us. And he's like, I'm gonna cry. I love when people, young people find themselves

obsessed with their elders. I'm like, Brandon, you're like 25 years old. Okay. Yeah, he's like when this came out So I love with you. Oh, you tricked us. Yeah, so Vinnie is next and he's got the hot pink thing and Carly goes And he's got the hot pink thing and curly gas rosé all day. And I was like, um, a go by our shirts and that's like, that can't win an elegant challenge. I mean, if you look at someone's dress and say, rosé all day, you should not be able to win an elegant challenge. I'm sorry.

No. I think it's a very fair point. Yeah, and they don't love the long straps, but ultimately they do like it, and Elaine says, this is the look that women want when they go out. So then Sonia comes out, now it's time for Sonia, and she gets like, so this girl is a young DJ, and they're like, what was that again?

DJ Tanner maybe, or no? No, DJ, you'll DJ, okay. Well, that's a beautiful dress, but it's not really an idea, okay? I'm not at a pool party with my friends. I'm at the back row at a Kenny G concert, and she's like, whoa, Kaylan. She's like, thank you.

That's what I was going for. I'm getting those words. Kay is a great, so sorry. And it's like, I know DJs. I've worked with DJs and you, ma'am, are no DJ. So they send them back and go up close and mean it's like up close. Leela, it's not my favorite.

That's a good one. Patrick feels tortured. It feels like someone hit it with a hammer and said, who said this about me tell me the truth I want names. I want names now. I'll kill your parents. I'll kill your children I'll kill your pet is just tortured Curse like that looks cheap. I mean like anything if you look up too close at it like look at Brad and I'm like a poor Poor

Like grandma says I have great skin. Hmm, so then Vinny like a poor, spores, spores. Like grandma says I have great skin. So then Vinnie, um, uh, they're like glamorous. I like it. They all love that. And it lays like everyone, every woman wants to feel like this. Brandon's like love him. Separate broke. Um, you know, he just spent some time on this binding.

So love it. Yeah. Then they go to Jamal and Karli isisle, I remember that thing you said before Nina about how like sometimes you get up close and it doesn't look as good up close as it did on the runway. This is like the exact opposite of it like when you get closer, it looks better than when you're from afar as opposed to the other one like we got it, we got it. Just say it looks good up close. I need to be quiet, please. Could someone send this PA backstage? Oh, she's hostess, OK. Listen here, chimney creakets.

Quiet. So Elaine's like, this captured that. Ethos of his vision. It's like, OK, Elaine. So then Esther's thing is, comes out and Brandon's like, honestly guys, it looks like two tapet-a-forching cookies are glitter or dress.

I love the general sauce chicken. I love the sesame chicken. I love the orange chicken. This is not so much. Here up the cat. So she's like, how do you feel in this? And the model's like, um, I feel okay. I'm not uncomfortable because I'm self-conscious about my body.

I mean, obviously, duh. I'm not alone. But this just isn't executed well. And I was like, oh, you're going to be executed well, be arch. Don't you ever talk bad about your fucking designer? Yeah, ever, unless you're Asia and you had to model for Tesla.

Yeah, well that's deserved, but just like dishing somebody's execution, how dare you, man, you're fired. So then they look at bishmaze and call it like, am I crazy, or do I sort of like this skirt? And he's like, brand brand is like you're crazy. Yeah, stupid. Yeah, give me a coffee.

Stupid and crazy. Is this a start or is this a scar? What is this? I'm offended either way and lanes like it's well made. Okay, I'll say that a lane's getting mad because the two youngins of the group are against the two older wins of the group. Yeah, it's kind of funny because they start getting pissy with each other

and they kind of shut a lane down on that one. And then it's Sonia and she's like, oh, so classy, it's cliche at this point. And it's like, um, do your, yes, Sun's Nina. She's like, I have one, Sun, two, Sun. Okay, shut up, Do you have some? Which sounds like this scarf for a visiting world of Harry Potter? She's like, I don't know what that is. What is a Harry and why does he make clay?

So Brandon's like, yeah, she can make dresses, but she has no opinion. So then Harley is like yeah, she can make dresses, but she has no opinion so then yeah, I really is like so who cuz Sonia or Bish me and Elaine's like oh Sonia because she's like out of touch every single time and Yeah, it's like yeah, but she delivered a polished dress The ham was finished. I love the length. I love the fabric just kidding It was terrible. Get it out of my side right now. You two, colleague. Go, go, go.

Yeah, I agree that she should go. I think so. And it was a pretty thing to go out on. At least she's not humiliated, you know? Well, they're always going to, if it's, if I, in general, it seems like if they're going to choose between something safe and forgettable versus something that's like overly ambitious and misses the mark, they're usually going to keep ambition, I think, because, you know, I think they like the spirit of that. Plus, Sonia's, I think, was she on the bottom last week? She's just been struggling a little bit more recently in Bishmay. It's just seemed like he had like a misstep.

Yeah. So they end up giving the win to dump, dump, dump, dump, dump, I wrote they're going to give it to Venni because they can sell that shit. It's going to be very difficult to sell shmals dress at a flash sale. Like how is that going to fit? And you know, different. A bunch of masses and bodies. Yeah, it's going to look crazy on people.

And Venni, they could mass produce, but Jamal. Yeah. He wins. And he's like, all smiling. He's like look crazy on people. And then he said, could mass produce, but Jamal went. He wins and he's like, all smiling. He's like, oh my God, wow, I was like, not expecting that. And then almost on, he's like serious again. He's like, you only got my smile for five seconds, none, dower again. Yeah.

And they talk, Hester, she's like, she had immunity, you know? So then it's just, Bishmi and Sonia left. And they end up getting rid of Sonia. Oh, yeah. and Sonia left and they end up getting rid of Sonia. Yeah. And it's like this was the most challenging deliberation we have had all season. The loser lost by like half a point. So yeah.

I have done 12 episodes now. And this is by far the most typical. Yeah. So they so they send Sonia home and Carly like goes up and does the hashtag blessed hands. She's like, does like the bow, you know, that annoying thing. Yeah. I'm so blessed meeting you. Yeah. And that was it for some of the end, everybody. This was super fun. We'll be back next Monday with a real housewives of Potomac and of course

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