Watch What Crappens - Pump Rules: Restraining Disorder

Episode Date: June 1, 2023

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I'm Ben Mandelker, joining me today for this Vanopomp rules reunion part two recap the one the only mr. Ronnie caram hi Ronnie How are you? Well, hello, Benini tunes. How are you? I am great. It's a wonderful bright morning here in Los Angeles recovering from Madness A vanopump rules reunion time. How are you doing? You're really, my game. It's like hurtful. It's been away.

It's so fun too. It's amazing. It's, it is great. It was a really good reunion. Actually, really good episode. It was, I was, I was drawn in. But anyway, before we dive into that, of course, a few reminders that we are now in June.

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is don't deserve your eye or. The first sign of allyship that you can do is come to our show, a crappin' show. We're gonna be going to San Diego next week, next Friday, I believe. And that's gonna be amazing, that'll be fun. And then the week after that, we're going to St. Paul, Minnesota,

we're going to Chicago, we're going to Columbus. That's three in one weekend, huge. And then the big grand finale is going to be in Boston. And then the next day in Foxwoods, that Foxwoods casino, I should say, in Connecticut, that'll be on June 24th, the big blowout. So that's it. The six shows left to see us. And then we're hanging up our coat, our hat, or whatever for the year. Yeah, we're out of here. I'm going to Mexico for some plastic surgery tourism. Yeah, amazing.

Bye, see you, suckers. I'm gonna go luxuriate. I'm gonna go crash the summer house. So anyway, that's the big stuff. Also, you may have missed some of our recent announcements about video, but we've really upped our video game. Crap is on demand is now pretty much every episode. And so on Patreon, what happens is that

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love to see succession played out by Ariel and her sisters because it's sort of the same story in a weird way. Other side thinks that. I don't know that I would have rooted for Ariel out of those sisters. I mean, she has some really fierce sisters and it's gay pride month so I say things like fierce today. Okay. Yeah. It's Sebastian. I'm, she has some really fierce sisters. And it's gay pride month. So I say things like fierce today. Okay. Yeah. It's Sebastian. I'm bringing it in. It's Sebastian. Yeah. The the Sebastian sort of like cousin Greg. Do we say that about Sebastian? I would have to say Sebastian would be, you know, he's like Tom to Tom. I was gonna say he's a kiss ass to the king who's like trying to do everything that the king wants

But in the end he ends up I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna say what happens in the end because I don't want to spoil a little mermaid or Succession yeah, okay, but it's serious shit. So anyway, that's that news, but anyway Enough enough. Let's talk about Vanderpump rules reunion part two season 10 episode 17. Yes a lot of crying a lot of accusations you know shockingly a lot of Tom Sandeval even looking worse. Wow if that guy ever plays a video game it should be dig Dug, because I've never seen the better Digger. Like, ham the man a shovel.

Okay, he's amazing. It's like we already all hate you. How could you get even worse? Dig Dug. That's a good call back. Good ladies joke. I love it. Yeah, he does just manage.

This is why they tell people, you know, you have the right to remain silent, you know? Like, yes, take the right to be silent. That is one of your God-given rights. Just sometimes to shut up. Just shut up. Just you'll save yourself if you just shut up. By the way, also last week I was really struggling

to say which actor he was slowly turning into. And I said Bruce Davidson, which is completely wrong, but Bruce Greenwood is who I was thinking of. Who's that? You've seen him in a million things. He sort of looks like Billy Bob Thornton, but he's his own strand of Billy Bob, but he doesn't play Billy Bob characters. But Santa Valls turning into like a sad punk rock attempted punk rock version of Bruce Campbell, not Bruce Campbell, Bruce Greenwood, mixed with maybe even a dash of Billy Campbell, I would even say. So basically just like not very famous, but sort of known actors.

Maybe just like the Campbell's chicken noodle soup. He's resembling. Yes, he is. Any kind of Campbell that we can find out, we can figure, we can think of at the moment. Okay, we need to like snap it together. I know, I'm sorry. I'm like, it's a big day.

Okay. Like, out of control. I'm like, what am I talking about? Who's, who's Campbell? I'm gonna talk about Campbell's soup. No, no, we're not gonna talk about Campbell's soup. No. It's a big day. I'm a little traumatized from the day. It was a lot of feelings, a lot

of me not really believing anybody because this show is full of horrible people. And I know that we get in trouble for, you know, varying weeks. It's like, I mean, I didn't like canning, you're in the audience or, oh, my God, you don't like so and so. So you're, you're a gastro addict or whatever it is. But, you know, Vanderpump rules is full of a lot of hateable people. They've all done a lot of shit things Okay, but then I get so confused because I'm really a sucker for crying if somebody can cry real tears And I don't see any like hint of saline or drops or anything like that I will believe you like I'm a son. I act like I'm so cynical

But if you just cry, I'm like oh I believe you. Like I'm a son. I act like I'm so cynical. But if you just cry, I'm like, oh, Lala's my hero now, because she cried. Like I totally believe it now. She didn't know anything about Rand. How could she? You know, it starts scrambling my fucking brain, man, and it's starting to hurt.

It's a lot of emotions to process. Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of pivots, a lot of emotional pivots, but this was this episode definitely cracked me up. There were some moments that just were so like James was saying James was on fire. Raquel said some things that cracked me up just because they were so stupid. We'll get to those. James's nasal cavity is wrong fire.

Fucking a man. Yeah, seriously. So we're starting up like in the middle of last week's fight with Lala saying to Sandeval, like you're sitting here, knowing you're like fucking her behind everyone's back Sands of All and James going, oh, yeah, you're right. Sorry, there's more of a boo.

Boo, not boo, boo, boo. right. Sorry. There's more for boo Not boo here. Boo During the full on booze and Santa was like I know I know it And James just keeps booing him and said of all screens. I am taking accountability But you're not long. I'm not she's like for what what did I do? And he goes oh I fart Mozart everybody that's me about a farting Mozart but you're not long, you're not. And she's like, for what, what did I do? And he goes, oh, I fart Mozart everybody, that's me, I lost farting Mozart. So this is strange,

like strange version of someone who thinks that, like strange version of like my shit don't stink is saying I fart Mozart. Strange take on that concept. It's also like he knows that we all know that he's so out of key, like to bring out a classical composer like, oh, well, I'm a sec, but I guess you fart modes are, no,

you're still off key all the time. So please don't bring modes art into the discussion when you're currently trying out a music career that's not fitting on you. Okay, please. This is not a time for modes art. So then of course Vanderpump's in to save the real important person here. The man, please don't hurt anyone with a penis.

She's like, Lala, sometimes you've been pretty aggressive too. And Lala's like, okay, you gotta stop now. Okay, this has to stop. This has to stop now. You're sticking too, you're sticking up for Tom too much Lisa. You've got to stop that Lisa. And Lisa's like, I'm not sticking up for Tom. I'm only listening. He may be flawed.

But it's so hard to find good bartenders in this city. What should I do? I'm not sticking up for Tom. I'm talking about you Lala and sandabals like yeah she's being reasonable and he goes oh reasonable no no no no that ain't chill bro that ain't chill I was like oh god here comes here comes James with his La La week he's like I'm not going to listen to this shit I shall step to the curb I will not have any of this. And so he gets up and storms through the door and he's followed by cameras to go do some more coke in the bathroom. Obviously it, I mean,

at this point it's just obvious. Right. I don't know. And I love that he uses, he uses a sand of all and at least Savannah pump of not being chill as he literally storms off the set. So um going. Just fucking die man. Fucking die. What can't you be more chill? What can't you be more chill? I'm gonna run around the block real quickly. So uh that was producer there. We learned about the producers a little bit today. They have this producer there. This one's name is Jeremiah. Okay. Yeah. And Jeremiah, I would guess he's probably in his late 40s, early 50s. And you're first of all, why are you guys making them still wear masks? COVID is, that's not fair. I feel like it's unfair to the crew. I feel like if anyone should have to wear the mask to protect anybody, it's the cast of antifung rules breathing on the,

the people that work there. First of all. But anyway, this guy named Jeremiah, he's probably like my age or something. It's like one of the older people. And he's like the papa of the producers. He's like, now, now, you feeling okay? We can, when we go back to set now. He's like kind of, he's like the kind of comforting one. And I love that he's assigned to go bring James back.

Yeah, he's on James Rangling duty. So that's why I don't think that he's, that's why I back. Yeah, he's on James' wrangling duty. So that's why I don't think that he's, that's why I kind of feel like he's like a young intern because he's not, he's like put on James duty, you know? Like, okay, you're in charge of like wrangling James every time he runs off to do coke. So, Lala. Lala would be a young intern to do it

because if a young intern was to do it, he'd be in the bathroom with James doing the cast. That's true. And how? I'm not even a young intern. I'd be like, he's got a lot of coke. James, let me shake your wiener for you to make sure you don't get splashes on your jeans

before they were you, give me some coke. Give me that bathroom like a chair. You know, smart, smart gif. Gosh, I'm not familiar. So, Lala's like, she's like, I'm gonna tell you, we will not be discussing this in San Diego. She's a fucking narcissist, and she's like, and you have an ego, this size of this building,

which is a relatively large size building, but obviously not large enough to encompass two people of a 100 yard restraining order on each other. So you have a very large ego, but to be honest, in this battle of hyperbole, I guess I could have strived a little bit larger than this building case closed senses. Actually, she says, I have an ego

the size of this building. But I'm not a narcissist, or I ain't a narcissist. I ain't a narcissist. And, you know, and he's like, I'm a class. Well, you know what, this, this right here has a lot to do with your ego. And she's like, yeah, it's nothing to do with that.

He's like, yeah, it does. And she goes, no, it doesn't. You fucking morons. And he's like, you're a fucking moron. You pulled your ID the day you, you pulled your, are you D the day you found out Stasi was pregnant? Whoa. Tom, this is not how you win over your friends.

What the fuck? What the fuck? On a reunion. This is... Who sends that? So obviously he's saying, oh, you're such a narcissist that you had to compete with pregnancy by trying to get pregnant just because Stasi was pregnant, like race.

First of all, you can't race pregnancies. Yeah, that's the work that's happening. If one person's already pregnant, they're most likely gonna have their baby first. That's just how timing of pregnancy works. It's not like, you know, when they say it's a bun in the oven, it's not a literal oven. You don't just like turn the oven on and then you put the bun in it.

Like it doesn't work that way. Okay. The oven's going off. Maybe get a bun. Pig. This guy is. Who fucking says that? Why would you have to bring it to that?

Like you have, so there's so much, so just a lot of this shut up or stop fighting with her is something, but that's not cool, Tom, that's not cool. Not that anyone surprised, it's not like anyone was rooting for you in the first place, but you just sunk even lower, congrats. Fucking weirdo.

So James, I definitely was like, well, I had one of those moments where I watched him. Like, little, little, little. So then James is now talking to the producer out in the hallway, and he's like, you know, I'm nervous. I like every time I listen to Tom, it's like, I just keep getting angry.

And then I have to go pee. I'm like a little, I'm like a little rodent has to pee when he gets scared. That's all I'm doing in there It's like okay, yeah pretty sure my it's like all right. We'll come sit on my lap here in the rock and share Let me tell you a story to calm you down to go back to the set little boys So he comes back and he's like all right all right and James, Lisa, I'm so sorry, I'm a good little boy. And Andy, I'm so sorry to you, I love you mate, I love you mate. I'm just like a good little boy, I'll let it go a little bit.

And he's like, okay, I'll just say a chair. I'm just saying a fucking chair already, okay? Honestly, at this point, I mean, you know, do you remember what happened? My cards! My card! The cool ones are so random. I mean, you know, do you remember what happened last my cards? My Chalk out lines on the floor where there was cards There's like missing pictures on the back of milk cartons everywhere

New feature on morbid so new feature on morbid. So crime of the century. So Andy's like, Lala, I want to switch gears and talk to you about Randall. I know you've been waiting many months for this. So here you go. Here's your moment. What was the last time you two spoke face to face? We should say face to pig snout. What was that? Lala's like, oh, we've never spoken face to face, we should say face to pig snout. What was that? Well, I was like, well, we've never spoken face to face. He brought oceans up the driveways the other day because the nanny's the sick and I just grabbed her and put her in the car seats. So.

And he's like, well, you know, it's funny as we didn't see ocean all this season. Was that by design? And she's like, yeah, because he sent the legal letters. And he's saying that like she was not allowed to be on cameras unless it was going to be an action film starring middle age or older action stars from the 80s. So you can't use pictures. No videos. No nothings. Brists, well, this is required to be here with dementia on on screen. Or Ocean's not allowed to be here. Okay, that's just how it works with Reddol M. It Belms.

So he's like, okay, cool. Well, right before the season started, an LA Times article published a bombshell article about Randall that accused him of running a casting couch, having his assistants move drugs, and also mass infractions of pickleball rules. Now he denied all the allegations to a spokesperson. We have anything to say about that. I love that he when he said made his assistance run drugs, they just cut the sound of all going. He's giving those like intense sound of all. I was like, what?

Because you know that sound Santaval knows those assistants. You know, Santaval's like, don't bring Donnie into this. How could you? Well, yeah, Santaval's just doing that thing. We're sort of staring at a point just beyond the tips of his shoes. And he's just like, please, let's talk about Randall as long as possible.

Please don't talk to me anymore. Please, please, please. Rand denied all of the allegations through a spokesperson who just brought me a dime bag. Oh, that's a kind of helpful. I'd like to thank that spokesperson. And Lala's like, by the way, that was Harvey Weinstein spokesperson. So I think it's very important that we add that.

I'm like, okay, are you? Cloud chasing Harvey Wein? Are you like to look? My man's as famous as Harvey Weinstein as a predator. Or are you saying, wow, look, he's as big of a predator as Harvey Weinstein. But we already know Rand is much, a much lower rent version of Harvey Weinstein. Oh, okay. We already know.

But thank you. Yeah. Also, um, I'm, there's a part of me that's like, why do I feel like for some reason, Rand's spokesperson is someone like Dolph Lungren or like John Glod Van Dam. That's just what I see coming out to speak on behalf of him. Not saying that they problematic, it's a commentary on his films,

think about it. So then Andy is like, he's like, well, okay, cool, that's an interesting fact. Did this come as a total shock to you? Cause it really didn't surprise really any of us. I mean, me too happened in 2017. We've been seeing this coming for many years now. Well, come on now.

Yeah, literally no one was surprised, but you years later, it was like Latens. It was, Latent. So she's like, well, yes, I know. Because my diamps was being flooded with some pretty disturbing allegations, disturbing allegations. Sorry, misplaced to care.

But the fact that the LA Times was going to be publishing those for the public, I was like, oh, shots. Oh, shots. And he's like, well, didn't you meet him while you were auditioning for one of his films? And she's like, no, I met him hostessing it, sir, duh. And Vanerpomp even is like, oh, I thought you met him in an audition. Do you guys even watch his show?

He saw it, sir, offered her an audition. They banged. He took the range rover from one mistress, shipped it over to her within one day and gave her a partner, maybe. Do we all watch his show? This is all from Wala, okay? Why do we know more than they know?

You guys are the producers of this show. And they're pretty good about calling up receipts because like many times during the reunion it's like, oh really? And that's like the time when I in season four you wept up to Vellan said, would you like a diet coke? Like seriously dude? Seriously? I was like, wow, like you guys remember very specific moments,

but they couldn't remember this story. You remember everything but Lala's origin story. How could you forget Lala's or every time I see like, she's on TikTok now and she was doing some like, you guys, how do I do TikToks? Cause it's like, this is what the cool kids do now. And she's just the way she's dressed in her makeup and she's got like a different face and she's so fancy and this reunion she's talking about,

like rant came over and I just thought the nanny deal with it or the nanny was sick, she couldn't deal with it or whatever. I always remember that origin story. I'm like, God, I wish I had something. I just wish like what I was busing tables or waiting tables or whatever. It's like, that is the ultimate LA origin story.

You know, it's like, I was hostessing it, sir. And then this weird gross fucking dude came in, asked me to eat his butt out and now look at it. You know, I think it's like, it's like La La Land. You know, it's like the new La La Land. It's like I would cry of that movie. I would cry Yeah, I remember back in those days when we actually thought that Lala was hooked me up secretly with like a Football player and like we had all these images of her with just like this Big hot guy just like successful

Just athletic just like so hot so hot and so successful. He couldn't even bear his face on the show. And then it turns out it was round. It was like, oh, guess what? It was because it's Rumpel's still skin. Congratulations. You need to figure out a riddle and make a golden loom before you can get out of this cage or what seriously.

But yeah, the rumors back then was that it was a basketball player, a football player or something. And so she was coming on, she's like, well, it's secret because she said celebrities, but he loves on my eaters butt. And we were like, what the hell? And also back then, what was different on this show at least, was that we loved it.

We were like, yes, La La. You're winning a lot. Like we were, yes, La La. You're winning a lot, but we were so rooting for La La because the girls were being so mean to her. And it was like, who cares? I mean, even when we found out it was round, it was like icky, but we were still like, yes, you go, you go get your low-rate Harvey Weinstein.

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If someone wants to join on my roster, I know a good sci-fi film I can book you in. Let me show you first, Lala, who is the human equivalent of goat cheese balls. So everyone cringes, what is he says Peter, they all are like, we don't even want to think about Peter being a manager like that. So then, La La is saying, so I went out, I went for an addition with Rance and guess any of you said, surprise, you got it, you know, I got it. And it's like, oh, and that's when you started sleeping together and just, um, let's see, you know, what that was December 2015. So it's not quite that. And everyone's like, Lala, Lala, you said you had sex with him that night.

At least Lisa goes, you said you let him hit it that night. La la, don't you remember that? Yeah, because James is total. I love that John La La and James are like, we're a team. We're best friends and know it's ever going to break us up. And then they're immediately like, you had sex right when you met him. I remember. Don't lie.

Yeah. Don't lie, hookah. And she's like, no, he didn't James. And he's like, just ask what you told me. Because it's not true, James. And because you're sure, I'm part of James. And he's like, just ask what she told me because it's not true, James. And he goes, you sure? She's like, I'm part of this. You let him hit it the first night.

And then we see the clip of Lala in the salon with Stasi and Stasi's Jai's on the ground. This is when Lala was like, I'm like a movie star now. So I'm gonna be a Brunette. That was like her season. So she tells Stasi, we went out, me and him, and like two of my friends, and I let him hit it the first night. So we went on separate walls.

The first night we banged, I got a car the next day. Stasi's like, wow, this is pretty rough, and this is coming from me. So then Lala, Lala's like, no, no, clarifications, that they were unions now. I just want to say, I didn't bang him the nights that I got the role. I'm saying like, I didn't bang him the nights that I got the role. I'm saying like, after when we went on

to our first formal dates, you know, in between his two chicken sandwiches, I was like, I'm gonna let him hit it tonight. Well, did you feel like you had to sleep with him and exchange for getting the part? She's like, you know what? I did not, aunties. Okay, me just being from, being from Utah,

I didn't realize that like, Harley would work that, okay, Lis, okay. Me just being from Bink from Utah, I didn't realize that like Hollywood worked that. Okay, Lala, okay. Just little, just little Lala brought in on the fucking Utah, you know, wag it, covered wag it across the plains and just accidentally dropped in Los Angeles in the Beverly Grove apartment. Girl, I know. She certainly acts, she certainly liked to act very savvy. That's Bethany Frankl said, you can't be smart and stupid at the same time or stupid and smart. Yeah, she vacillates.

It's like one way she's like, Randall Ranna casting couch, but then she's like, oh, but I just happen to be the one who escapes that cast when she basically was bragging about the casting couch when she got on the show. It's like, come on, get your story straight, you know, yeah, so James is like oh come on lol I knew that the way Hollywood worked when I was eight years old

Playing around in Tiffany's when my mom doored me somewhere at least just like oh yes He slept with Christy to get on her television show. Yes, you did Jim's like I did, I did not. I did not. I created my own story line here, Lee. Lee, you should be thanking me. And I said, oh, I should be thankful. Really, I've been your supporter when you were using ice cream as a crutch for cocaine. You remember that? Me, supporter magician, Lee Savanderbump. Now, look, I've found a nickel behind your ear I thought it was supposed to be a darn bag so then

Yeah, cuz James is like I did not sleep. I wanted to get on the show So like roll the footage and he's you see James at a different reunions saying to be honest I was gonna get on the show regardless because I was either gonna move in with Tom or was gonna stop banging his girlfriend You had me no matter what Everybody getting caught in their blatant lies. They are ready. So The users are with all the receipts They really are it so funny and sound of all's like yeah, we weren't getting ready to bully any got there She's not even vlogging him another one of my friends and then we're back to James He's like oh yeah, well what I was 21 years old.

Disgust 40 and she's still making the same mistakes, isn't he? James, you are going to be making those same mistakes when you're 42. I love that you think that you're younger so you're cut from a different cloth, but you're not. Okay, you are 100% Vanderpump rules DNA now. Okay, you're never going to get better. You're never going to become a good person? You're never gonna get better. You're never gonna become a good person.

You're never gonna heal, okay? This is you. So just enjoy it. He has literally not shown any growth over the past from like seven or eight years, whatever it is. He is literally the same person, getting into the same fight, triggered by the same thing,

it's reacting in the same ways. I don't care. He literally can't even, he's like not even sober. He's triggered by the same thing, it's reacting in the same ways. I don't care. He literally can't even, he's like not even sober. He's the exactly the way he was before. He was sober despite his whatever denial he has. So Lala's like looking back and I see all these red flags, you know, but like I had all these red flags, but now I've got a 30,000-foot view on life.

And something like, if something seems too good to be true, that's because it's not true. That's what I've learned in life right now. Randall didn't seem too good to be true. He seemed like a low-life gross TLC star that you were willing to sell your soul to while he had money in enough power to get you into a couple of bean movies with Bruce Willis

who should have been in a hospital somewhere. Let's stop acting like you were just given this like Brad. Like, what are you talking about? He was not too good to be true. He was true. I don't think I think those scandal is the least surprising scandal that's ever come out of this. So by the way, he's as good as he is true.

I like not as he is like literally just like, he's too true. True. He's just too, he's just on the nose. He's just very on the nose. To be true. He's just true. He's just not too good to be true.

He's just really, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's weird. I don't think I saw it. It's like a ceiling. It's there. There was no magic there. Oh, there's a, there was no,

there's a sidewalk. There's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a a I don't look at a sidewalk and say this sidewalk is too good to be true I say there's a sidewalk. I know it's for I know what it does. I know how to use it I know what to avoid if I see you know if I don't if I don't want to walk in that direction I'm not gonna walk in that sidewalk That's random limit. Yeah Yep, and so Andy's like wow That's random. Yeah.

Yep. And so Andy's like, wow, sobriety will do that. So I hear, so how many years have you been sober? Let me, let me pretend to be impressed. How many years? And she's like, I'm just shy of 4.5 years, Sandy. And people clap for her. And Andy's like, wow, that's gross.

But amazing, amazing. And gross. All right. You know what we're going to pause on that? I can't talk about sobriety anymore. It's really disgusting and this is not a horror film. Okay, let's take a break, everybody. So, now they all, they all break for lunch.

And they all are like scattering and Lava's asking Katie if she's been too out of pocket and Katie's like, no, you've been fine, but like, you know, I just wanna get through stuff. I feel like we've been here for four hours and we've only talked about the same thing for the entire time. So like, we just like move forward, watch like, God, God's, God's, quiet lady. I love fucking Katie.

Okay, they go on break. They're not, people aren't even to their dressing rooms yet. And Katie is already in her fucking pajamas. Okay. She's probably got like, lot of ranch in that in that pocket. Wait, this is, this is, this is, this goes in the pro category for Katie. The fact that her like speed in terms of getting into pajamas and like, she was already like leaning on the side of the wall as they're walking up the set.

I was like, how did she do that? It's amazing. That's like her superpower being in pajamas. Reverse more. You know, like Superman just like goes into a phone booth and he comes out and he's in a superhero outfit. Katie just like walks in her front door and she's immediately in pajamas, like standing at her kitchen counter. And so many of the songs on this show are like, go power, go boss. I got money, go boss. And it cuts to Katie eating tuna and, you know, in her pajamas at her kitchen counter. Every time.

Like lovey on rose is playing in the background. So, short candles lit, goop candles lit all over the place. She just starts talking like that, Jella Lassen. She, there's, there's for some reason there's like, a fridge back there, but it's also midnight in her room, which is like, just gonna grab a little snack, shall I? So, the Katie doesn't get off on sexy talk

like Angela Lawson, because my Jell-A-Lawson's like, oh, welcome to my refrigerator, it's midnight, let's get sexy. Katie's in like pajamas with cats on them, opening the fridge like, you know what, I was never appreciated in my marriage, and now I'm gonna eat some las them opening the fridge. Like, you know what? I was never appreciated in my marriage and now I'm gonna eat some lasagna for the camera. Well, that is the American version of saying

whatever Nigella Lawson's saying. Like, when Nigella Lawson says, I'm gonna get to the exact, that's basically the British indirect way of saying, I was never appreciated in my marriage. I'm gonna have some lasagna now. Yeah. Well, you know, people say in the comments sometimes

because you know, when I hate on Katie and Steph, people are like, you know, it's funny that you are so re-de-cati because you're just like her. You're moody, you're grumpy, you're judgmental, you're sour, you're, you know, you love to eat ranch, you know, like all the same. And this is another example of how I'm just like Katie, because I can literally fall asleep anywhere,

be in my pajamas anywhere, or talk about anything over some tuna from the fridge. No. So I get you. I get you. Today I get you, Katie, with your superpower and your robe leaning. When people get too close to us, we don't, when we see the things that we don't,

that we're like, hmm, I wanna improve that about myself, whatever, I'm not saying that you wanna improve it, but like for me, when I want, I do something that I wanna improve, and I see it in someone else, that's when usually my claws come out, because I'm just hating myself. So then shorts is doing push-ups on the set.

Yeah, classic projection, shorts doing push-ups, which made me annoyed because I felt like he was trying to be like a cutesy and silly, like trying again, trying to rehab his image while this is happening. And then Santa Valls like Dresson Black and he goes sort of stomping through the parking lot to get to Rekel's trail or a hundred yards away.

And he was just like, all dark. He looks like he's in the matrix, but like a sad version of the matrix, like a matrix where like the machines took over and then the machine said, actually, let's just abandon this. Let's just go back to just like being like flashback. Just a spinning beach ball. It's just like a spinning beach ball. After the matrix, let's realize what it took over. each ball after the matrix. That's the worst part. I realized what it took over.

We don't need to do this. So now he's just like alone in the sad, like dormant matrix. Yeah, he looks, you know, I know he's going for like old rock star or young rock star and stuff, but he does just look like like a driver for, you know, what are those cars called that they drive to Limos? A hers. He looks like just like a hearse driver on a smoke break.

Also, I feel like now that I've quit smoking, why do people still smoke? I don't get it. Yeah, it's not funny because you know, I've like not smoked maybe, let's say for, I've been a few years now. I was vaping for a while, but who cares? That's not the point. But the second you quit smoking, it's like, oh my god, I can't believe they're still smoking. Disgusting! But I've also wanted, oh my god, I can't believe they're still smoking. Disgusting! But I've also wanted cigarettes all fucking morning. I can't stop. We're talking about coke, cigarettes.

I mean, all I need now is for someone to walk in with a pizza for me to have a mental breakdown and just be on the fucking floor in the fetal position, okay? So, well, this shows really a bad all our devices. So now, Santaval goes into Raquel's trailer and he's like, oh, no, it's rough out there. Good to see you. And so they like hug. And he's like, I got emotional right off the bat. Like, James has been exactly how I knew I'd be. Like if I blink, he's like, oh, what am I blinking

over there? Which is pretty true, but hilarious. And he's like, it's like, it's like, Rikels. Yeah. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it a fine fuck about either one of us is like calling me a narcissist, like how could you say that about me she doesn't even know why. And we're girls like um yeah I saw everything go down on the box with the moving pictures on it and he's like oh okay well they're making me out to. I mean, you had to be basically pathological wire to cows. Yeah, I know, because like I saw it on that thing over there. And like, even though we know that we're not pathological liars, we haven't lied about anything except this affair.

Except this affair. Just that. What the heck do you think is going on on this show, man? What? I don't think it's about the quantity of lies. It's about the quality, the size of the lot. What do you want? Just this affair.

This affair encompasses like a year of your time where you were lying to multiple people every day. It's a lot of lies. You can't just like put those all into one little box. We only had just this affair. Just this little affair. So, you dumb dumb. James is like, if they do want to put it in a,

if they do want it together, good witness. Okay, living a year in the desert, desert year, through stupid fat people. Fat year, you're gonna be so fat, you're gonna look like a year at your sale, people are gonna try to move in and glam inside your stomach, cause you're so fat, fat can look like a Y-you're sad, people can try to move in and glam it side just dumb it because you're so fat, fat, you're a man Yeah, but now's a real life has sunk in the two of them together

He's gonna be off doing this. He's a think. That's what he's always been doing He's gonna keep doing his thing and area on is like yeah, and when little miss home record Like starts making real demands of their relationship I mean, she's not gonna be be so cool anymore, just like I wasn't. Hmm. Just like I wasn't cool until I started enjoying scope, mouthwash for that cool, refreshing flavor in your mouth. So, Rekel is like, uh,

to Rekel and she's, oh, sorry, bang, go ahead. Oh, no, I was just going to say she's like, she's like, so we come back to Rekel and she's, oh, sorry, Ben, go ahead. Oh no, I was just gonna say, she's like, she's like, I don't love the way it's coming across about your guys' intimacy, like clearly, I only know what you're telling me, but like just watching what you tape right now. It looks like you guys had this solid relationship. It's like, oh, I'm sorry, Rekel.

We are feelings hurt that he was sharing his heart with someone else. That's tough position to be in, isn't it? That's not a nice feeling, right? Well, yeah, I mean, he's basically lying and saying we were basically broken up. And now she's like, yeah, so you weren't broken up, like you said, right? It's like, it's Don, it's all Donning on Raquel, kind of in this moment. Like, wow, but unfortunately for Raquel, her face never moves, her eyes never change. She never

seems to have any kind of emotion. It's super weird. And then we see a clip of Shina saying 114 minutes early, like, oh, I'm not done. And then you said you have to tell her to believe in it. And she's doing her thing. But I thought it was funny that it was, even the clips have to be over 100 minutes away from the workout. It's like 114 minutes earlier.

It's safe to show this clip now. Yeah. So then, I then, Sandevol, of course, tries to do his own spin. He's like, no, I mean, like, okay, I went and then when I was like, when Ariana literally went from like, always like, you know, she always like, talk down to me, like, okay, I went and then when I was there, I was like, when Ariana literally went from like, oh, she's like, you know, she always like,

talk down to me like a little bit, you know? And then it went from me like asking her something simple, like, hey, watch that where and I, and like, what do you think about this? And she'd always be like, no, no, I hate it. And then we see a clip of Ariana, and he's like, should I wear this? And she goes, I don't know if I like the green.

Wow, Tom. He's literally asking her, do I wear this? And she goes, I don't know if I like the green. Wow. Tom. He's literally asking her, do you like this red one or do you like the green one? She goes, I don't know if I like the green. I think the red one's better. He's like, she's so mean. She did that to me.

She looks like, oh my god. Oh my god. So then he says, yeah, I was gonna say that. No, then he said that so then, I was gonna say that, then he said that, that then she started acting like, oh, Tom, you're so good at fashion. So was he saying that like she had,

she was pretending to be nice during that period? He's saying that she went from being horrible, like no, you suck. The green is ugly to being like, oh my God, Tom, you're so good at fashion. So just do whatever you want, you're so talented. She's saying that she became totally fake, just trying to fix a relationship by faking it,

faking being nice. I was like, oh my god. She is satanic. Can you imagine a partner trying to fix hurting their partner's feelings by being nicer to them? That is fucking crazy. That's abuse. You know what's you know what's so evil when like your partner has been treating you one way and then you go to like couples counseling and like you tell the partner

how like their method of communicating is like hurtful to you. So then know what they do. They actually adjust and change to honor your feelings. Could you think of something more despicable than that? Awful. Oh my God. Why don't you just fucking, why don't you just break his nose?

You know what I mean? I mean, I mean. I mean. I'm terrible. Couples counseling, terrible for relationships, clearly. Horrible. Like, classically bad. Classically bad, moop.

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Sobercale's like, but I think like she felt that you wanted to keep the relationship working because like you never broke up with her. And he's like, well, yeah, like in a sense I mean maybe we should have done this earlier She's like come you think yeah, but what do you like all smart about this fucking Rick hell like um, duh I just didn't know like Maybe the relationship was working and he was just lying to like come Come on, you fucking ding that. These two are ridiculous. This was probably part of the coach's part, right?

Like he probably said, they're probably gonna say this. And so like, I like this that way you don't seem like such a bitch, you know? Like it seemed like you didn't know. Like it was probably lines that he had fed her ahead of time, which explains why he wanted later on to like, then be able to talk with her without cameras because whatever this conversation was

was clearly not authentic enough to, to, to was not like the real, real deal. So, Sandevol's like, it's just like, Rosh and, Ruff. And like, Ariel, I was gonna like unleash on you. And I'm just, I'm really glad you came though. Like, having your vacant stare is like really supporting to me. She's like, yeah, because like, it just sucks. Cause like, now my whole question is like, ink my whole character is like in question, you know, okay, Raquel, the first season, we were like, does she have a character? Is she a character? What is she? Is that a flesh bot? Does she speak? Okay.

The second year, we were like, oh my God, is her character sweet? I think her character is sweet. Does she talk still? In your third year, we were like, oh my God, she does have a character. She's so cute. And then in this year, you're a fucking villain. Okay, your character is literally in question every single year because you're like some blank canvas bot that somebody programs very, very slowly. It's like, you're a some blank canvas bot

that somebody programs very, very slowly. It's like you're a first edition bot. People need to speed up the programming on Rikail. Okay, it's like your fourth year. Yeah, she's like a time of koochi or something. So then she's like, I just feel that. She's like a pocket pet. Is that what those are?

I think that's what it was. I think it was those little pocket pets. You have to take it out of your pocket and feed it or it dies in your pocket. You know those little key chains things. So you have to like feed it or also, yeah. She sleeps with your, it winds up in your best friend's pocket instead.

So. up in your best friend's pocket instead. Well, you didn't tell me you had a girlfriend. Do do do do. I thought you had broken up with her. So I went to a different bucket. Yeah. She's one of those pocket pets as Alexa is to us now, you know? Yeah.

So she's like, I have gone through a transitional place in my life this summer and I think I swang on a pendulum. No, Rekel, I told you the line you're supposed to say, try it from the top. Okay. I think there was a pendulum and it hit me in the head. No, no, no. You are a transitional place because of what you went through with James So this is where James is fault and you accidentally overdid it and the metaphor we use is the pendulum. Got it

I won't have such a good thing. Look out the window Lisa Fandre pump is just swinging back and forth on her in the lane, pendulum, darling, it's 1111, dong, dong, dong, dong, make a lane. Don't say pendulum around Lisa Vanderfob, okay, she loves the giant clock moment. She has a little scarf that's like flapping in the window, she goes back and forth. So it's like, yeah, and you know what? I think that this is my wake up call. This is your hang up call, okay? You know, you know, I'm getting a wake up call at this point, man.

Okay. Yeah, you are not receiving a star six, seven call from Carrotop and a phone booth, okay? It's a hang up. Just connect the lines, okay? Yes. We were hanging up on your stupid ass. It was a hang up call.

So, Santaval does well. And then he tries to give his like, intense sexy eyes, which are just fucking creepy at this point. He's like, I believe in you. And she goes, yeah, I know you do. Pencil, I'm just in my right. He's like, no.

All right, see you later. So then he goes out of the trailer and then outside he goes, okay, I'm done filming. And then he goes out of the trailer and then outside he goes, okay, I'm done filming. And then he comes back into the trailer and he's like, hey, producer guy in here, can we have a for real break? Like where we're not being filmed? It's like, oh, okay.

See, that whole thing was just fake. Right. Right now you need to film. I, like, I gave like a pretty good button for that scene. I think you got everything you needed. So I think we're done here. So if you mind, can we just have a break? And they're like, oh no, cameras are up.

If anyone's together the whole time, just the way they always happen for nine years. And he's like, no man, no, I'm gonna take my mic off, man. I'm gonna take his like, yeah, well, you can have time if you need some time by yourself, but if you two are together, the cameras are up and mics on. But I don't think I'm on you. It's like, no, no.

I don't wanna chat with her when the cameras aren't rolling. What the hell? Because while all you guys are gonna go eat lunch, it's like, maybe. Cause we have cameras on you at lunch. Oh. Come on, dude, come on. Taking my mind off, that's it.

Oh, you can't take time if you need, like you guys can't do this's it. He's like, oh, you can't take time. If you need to, like, you guys can't do this. If you're like going to be alone, you can't do that. Okay. You can't, dude, I just, you know what? I'm going to fucking like, sorry, like writing down Tom's actual captions. Dude, I just dash, dude, comma. I just want to fucking ellipses.

Sorry, period. like ellipses. He takes off his mic and they walk away. We're not period, dude, we're just like ellipses, like comma, we have, we need a breath man. It's like a system trying to auto-generate captions and can't quite keep up with the dialogue. It does. Okay, don't need it.

Do you need to take a break, Tom? Yes! All right, you can take a break. Thank you. With a camera. No! Okay, how about this? You know, there's a donut shop across the street.

Why don't you and Raquel just go to the donut shop and just take a breath breather and just relax. Thank you. With our camera. Slom it. All the donuts on camera. What? What?

Tom, Tom, Tom. I'm sorry, I get what you're saying now. You need a break. Yeah. Thank you. Oh, this Kit Katbar on camera. Kit does on camera. Kit does on camera.

I need to add you in the camera, guys. We've added you in the camera. Okay, you know what? I know this is rough. So I've gotten you a spa day. Thank you. Unfortunately, you'll be filming the entire time and it's not a spa. It's just gonna be an empty shed. Oh! There's a floating camera in that spa. It's like, am I? So he's just screaming, stop filming me.

He's like doing this with his hair and he's like, chain smoking. He looks at it. Stop filming me, bro. And then Patrick's like, but you know, like you have to like talk like to the camera. Know what I mean? I love that the producers are always just

dealing with idiotic children, the way they talk to them. But we don't like drawing on the walls, okay? We don't like that. So let's stop drawing on the walls, okay? We don't like that. So let's stop drawing on the walls. Hey, can we put the crayons down? Can we do that? Nope.

We get what we don't like, throwing our macaroni and cheese on the ground. I know. I know. That's bad. I was so impressed because he didn't fall into any of the traps, like whatever Sandivall said. Sand, like, he's like, I don't want to be filmed right now. He didn't like say, like, like, oh, but we just need a moment.

He's just like, all the cameras are rolling. Yeah, the cameras have to roll. Yeah, no, that's how it is. Yeah, I know that my giant arms are making you feel really insecure right now in your mid-life crisis, but you'll just have to deal with that, okay? Thanks, sorry. And he goes, dude, I don't feel relaxed.

Are you, do you think you're supposed to feel relaxed? This is a Bravo reunion. People aren't here to make you feel fucking relaxed. You turd, okay? So he's like, we don't want to watch, we don't want to watch what we fucking say. You know, I don't want, like, like, like, I can't do that. Like, I'm in a very delicate position here.

I'm very delicate position here. Basically, he wants to get Raquel alone so he can say, listen, Tom fucking Schwartz fucked our timeline and said August. So we're going to have to change that and you're going to be asked to clarify that. So make him look like a fucking liar because otherwise our whole story is blown out of the water. Right. And also why all of a sudden now are you concerned about having to monitor every single word that you say, considering that you've already said so many stupid, stupid things?

Like, it's a lost cause. This one you might as well just let all the stupid things conflying out because it's just not getting any better the way you're doing it right now. Well, it's like when you're gambling and you're losing and you're like, oh my God, but I could, but if I keep playing, then I could win a million dollars and I could get it all back and I wouldn't be depressed anymore. I'm like, it's like that. Just you just keep going and putting more on the table and then you just keep fucking losing it, you know? He's right now. He's like Kim Zolciac in it up. Okay. Yeah. Basically Kim Zolciac at a nickel machine right now. That's

what's happening. So Patrick is like, okay, okay, sweet one. Go take a beat, take a beat. And Tom goes, this needs a take a beat. I'm like, oh, he's just really not good with his comebacks, is he? Like between the Mozart thing. Last week he had some crazy thing that I can't remember.

He's just, he's not, not great with him. He's got like a Teresa Judeisway of reunioning or he just screams and yells, but if you let him talk, he can't form a sentence still. I mean, he's just dumb dumb. So we cut to Shina drinking out of her straw like this. I love watching Shina drink out of a straw. Yeah.

Just great straw work. I'm just saying that. And Santa Valls, like doing his hair, he's great. I'm just saying that. She really does. And Santa was like doing his hair. He's just like staring at himself, because we're back on set. So he's doing his hair in the phone. And Ali comes out and sits right next to Lala.

And Ali is like, how do I sit? I was like, wow, James really knows how to pick a name. I know. So, and he's like, well, Ali, so let's talk about this. You met James at his show with Tom Sandeval in the most pictures at the Canyon Club, were you a fan of Vanderbump rules?

And she's like, I've seen Vanderpump rules, but during COVID, I went down this Bravo rabbit hole a little bit and I watched it, so I've seen it and I've watched it and I was COVID and I learned it and chairs and I sat in chairs and I learned chairs. It was great Andy. Thanks for having me He's like, so you watched it and there was nothing from James's past that worried me. Yeah, I mean, I guess. Um, but like, then we see clips of James's greatest hit.

Like, oh, you know what? Everyone talks shit on you and guess what? It's Sue, Christian. And then, hey, Katie, you pregnant. Congrats on that. Congrats on that, preggie, preggie. Preggie Sue got married, didn't she? Didn't she KT?

And then it cuts to you. Don't fuck with my bitch or I will fuck with your fat man, you know. But I was 21 years old. It was last week, James. 21 years old plus three years, no big deal. So I know they have one like for every five minutes of the season. It's like one of those apps where it takes a picture of you every day.

You just have to post for one second. And then at the end of the year, you have something that goes by in one minute. It's just James like, fat stupid slap. Who are you? What your ball is? So I was like, yeah, for sure. Like meeting him is different though, because I gave him a chance to show me who he really is. And like, he is different though, because I gave him a chance to show me who he really is and like, he's lovely.

I love the way he tells me what to wear and what to think and how to be, and also the way he yells at me at clubs. He's really lovely Andy, thank you. James, okay, Rukal broke off your engagement on December 3rd of 2021. Six weeks later, you met Ali. Was that long enough to process and get over such a long relationship with Rukow? Danielle just comes storming in from the summer house to reading. It was too fast. Too fast, Andy.

And the fact that you didn't tell me you were over it. And by the way, when he's asking this, James is just looking at his nails, like, I don't care. You said, you can. Look at me, my manicure. Cool, Jess. Cool, just manicure. I hate my cat, I hate to see dogs.

Not bothered. You know what's cute? My cute icicles on my fingers. That's what they're called, right? Cute icicles. Now they're cuticles. He's doing the, like like emoji of painting your nails, like unbothered, he's like,

I'm both a, I'm both a girlfriend. So Andy's like, well, when Caleb will reveal some pretty awful things that you said about her parents when she was in the car, no, like have a sill. And then we see the clip of Raquel. He exploded in my dad, it Thanksgiving, saying my dad is only with my mom because she's miserable and my mom's a fat bitch. And, uh, I'm definitely

sure to say that. All right. So, I apologize. I wish I could take it back. That was wrong. It was wrong. Yeah, I was 21. Okay, I've learned a lot since then. I definitely take it back. 21. You know what I mean? It's like, I might as well have my own store, the way you keep talking about my past, right? Just for every 21. So Andy's like, Ally, how did it make you feel to hear James

saying those things to his fiancee's parents? And she's like, I didn't like it all, but I also knew that the sun was in the ninth chamber of the Taurus Orion spell. And so I was like, that's okay, but I don't think the word fat should ever be used. I think it's just a concept we should avoid merely. I love seeing it a problem with fat, but not fat bitch.

It's like the bitch part is okay. I like someone's mom a bitch. So he's like, yeah, well, you know, they said some pretty nasty words to me at that dinner table. Which of course, it's typical James. It's never his fault. He's never, it's everyone else's fault all the times. And then Santa Valtruz to Schwartz and Mutters,

oh yeah, he said the same thing about my mom, the first text I got from him. I was like, he called your mom a fat bitch. Really? What? That's so classic, James. Like, I can't believe you slept with Ariana. Your mom's a fat bitch.

Like, she just has go to, it's like, his email signature. So James is like, well, you know what, her mom would talk about my penis sores. And for Thanksgiving dinner. And she would be like, what's going on with your dick? Is it circumsaws? Is it un-circumsores? I've never seen what a circumsize dick? Is it circumsaws? Is it uncircumseaws?

I've never seen what a circumsize dick looks like. Things like that. And it's a better bum's like, what are you talking about? They probably just said, pass the butter you idiot. By the way, they cut to Raquel in the trailer 100 feet away again, and she has no reaction. She's just like, ah, you know, so what? What's the big deal with asking if you're circusized, you know, so what? What's the big deal with asking if your circus

sized, you know, like circuses, it's their family events. James is like, but you know, like, if you have these conversations and grandma buttons right there, that's right. Everyone forgot about grandma buttons, but guess what I'm bringing her back and guess what she was right there. It's about my penis,res. It was awkward. Owl-A-James seemed easily triggered by Rikael multiple times this season. They look very funny, alright? And then we see a clip of James, like, oh, Rikael, who else can you make out with an on-front creep? Who? Huh? Huh? And then bigger than Rikael-A.

Hello, Reyes, make another fucking joke. Keep it Bob Bellabank glasses, fuckface. Ha ha ha. Do you ever think that he wasn't over her? And she's like, I honestly never thought that once. I think James is easily triggered by a lot of things which I've been told that she'd be a red flag, but the thing is that red's not my color.

So I chose not to see it that way, but like I think he felt a deep betrayal and that he was like losing his friends on account of his terrible behavior. So thanks Andy for having me here. Mm-hmm. Do you worry his continued drinking will become an issue? Or she's like, not at the moment.

I mean, I definitely don't like when he's drinking a lot, but like, honestly, we're helping each other because I'm not drinking as much. And neither is he. And he's like, but why did you stop drinking? He's just, uh, because I needed a break. And he's like, oh, so you thought you needed a break? Did you think James would quit drinking a few quit drinking? James, like, we take breaks together. All right, it's an on and off thing. You know, sometimes we're on, sometimes we're off. That's how it is. Like a lot of switch. Break of life switch I've got to get a peak. I've got to get a peak right now Yeah, I'll go like a month without drinking and then I'll go a month of drinking

Mm-hmm that sort of thing so James is like I mean at other way even though I'm drinking It's like a lot different than it used to be okay I'll never go back to being that boy that little boy that little adorable boy Lisa to be okay I'll never go back to being that boy that little boy that little adorable boy Lisa for hours 22.5 years ago before quick drinking I'll never be that boy again you stupid fat sluts all of you all of your fat sluts. So then here we start getting a little darker so Santa falls like okay James well we have this ongoing job with Atlantic City and then James got brought into it and the last time we were there you were belligerently drunk with no shirt on and your pants were in it's like I hit some shorts

some shorts some shorts shorts was too he's like no the manager told me your friend is gonna get kicked off the premises and then he told me later that you would smack the waitress on the ass and that they had to like have her sign of like sign of forms and she wasn't gonna fail so POOL out. And James does not deny any of this. I want to point out he never says that's a lie. He goes and gets what Tom? YouTube just has to show up to the show drunk. Like as if that Like how is that your your response to that? So you just have to show up drunk. You're like, you lost his job That's sizzler. And James is like, okay, well you two just show up to get drunk. I show up and I'm providing a whole show.

It's songs, it's dance, it's slapping random women on the ass. It's an experience that James can't even see next to his experience. Presented by LodddaCasee now! And Santa was like, dude, you were climbing the rafters! And he's like, bro, mom music, mom music, you were shit based. Where mom DJ business makes fucking tenfold anything you could even imagine. Bro speaking of Imagine, I played there. That's right.

Custain. God. God. And he's like, okay, but we're supposed to be talking about your drinking. And then, okay, first off, you know what they're talking about, right? These like appearance fees that they do. They'll be like, come have a drink with charm and charm. Tonight they're doing Red Bull and vodka, whatever club.

And so I guess they brought James into it, maybe as a consolation price. Like, I'm fucking your ex. Well, you know, we'll get you a couple thousand dollars or whatever. And Andy kind of ruined it for that. I mean, not Andy. James kind of ruined it for them. So then Lala jumps in. Yeah.

She's like, this is a sensitive topic for me. We can circle the drain about this all day long. But you both drink very heavily and I don't think you should say anything about his drinking. I was like, oh wait, all, wait, what? I was like, this is about James' drinking. James is still clearly, like, he's off the band,

he's not, that means off the wagon, not the band wagon, he's off the wagon. And now she's like, you don't get to talks about James' drinking. I was like, that's what he's been doing for two years. Yeah, and she, but it's sand of all, right? And, you know, rightly so. It's amazing, I'm like watching a cast

that betrays each other so often really have such unity when they all get to hate on the same person together. Right. I mean, when this cast gets to hate on one person together, it's like the best team you've ever seen. Like, they're unbeatable this team, but then they just go betray each other. True. And to be fair and to be fair to be fair

sand of all really is not in any position to talk about how you handle your drinking considering that he had an affair which one has to imagine the ball got rolling with some drinks at the Abbey while they were dancing late at night. So yeah, well, honestly, I have to say I am kind of getting sick of every little thing being like, but you cheated. Okay, but James is like clearly hooked out of his fucking mind. It's disaster. That was brought up as an example of how drunk James is

and how it is ruining his life and how it is still affecting the people around him. And he's off sexually, I mean, I don't, you know, I don't wanna say sexually assaulting people is maybe a little too harsh of a, but I mean, it was and who are, let's say sexually harassing people. Rassing. Let's say sexually harassing people, staff. And people are just like laughing and like letting that go because sand of all had sand of all is a piece of shit. But James is like sexually harassing people and like acting like a jackass.

And you guys are sitting there enabling it because you hate sand of all so much. There's rooms, it's like for multiple people to be wrong. Okay. It's like a public toilet and a chili cook off. Okay, there's a lot of assholes to address. Okay. There are a lot of assholes to address.

But by the way, among the many reasons why you should never cheat, and especially don't cheat with your girlfriend's best friend, is because in moments like this, when you actually have a shred of a point, if that even makes sense in English, a shred of a point. But if you do have it, your credibility is shot. So congratulations, no one there is gonna listen to. of a point, but even if you do have it, your credibility is shot. So, so congratulations.

No one there is going to listen to you. And Tom's getting annoyed because then, because Ariana's like, you fucked my friend, and she's like, that's irrelevant. Like, it's like you're a get out of jail con for everything in James. It's like, yeah, it used to get out of jail called, you must dash prick.

Because that's what, you you know everyone's mad. It doesn't matter what you say, no one cares. So it's like you must dash prick and then he gets off to run up again and then he turns around while they're trying to get him back to the stage and goes, booze, he has a bitch. Which of course he's just throwing a fit because A, he's being confronted about being a drunk and a completely disrespectful to women asshole and so he's running off to do more coke. Yeah. Like during the section that they're saying that he's not so boring.

He's running off to do more coke in the back. I mean, this, come on. It's just like, it's sad. Like, and they're just all laughing. And come, that's James. So James is still screaming. You fucking must have one bitch and walks off. So then we come back and now James is coming back. He's like come back

I'm back and Ali is asking people like has he been like this the whole day? Yeah, and you're holding your fucking boyfriend. What the fuck are you doing with him? Okay, and also I cannot wait till Ali's coming out season as a complete villain because why else is she here? Yeah, she asked to be you you know, it's coming. So Andy's like, I love it for her. And he's like, Ali, you told James, you need to see a therapist after a beach day. Yeah, I think everyone needs to see a therapist,

especially men and especially James. James is basically so deeply damaged. He's incapable of having proper human relationships and lashes out abusively to those who are close to him and has drinking problems. And that's why I love him. It's like, what are all these? So, I'll listen to yourself, girl.

Come on. And Andy's like, what, James says, it helped me with my anger. Therapist really helped me. Guys, really helped me. And Andy's like, not from what I've seen today. He's like, Ariana says, what I think today is extamuating circumstances guys.

Like today is, today's been a little extra. And speaking of extra, extra gum by Ariana. I love this gum. Thanks everyone. That was some spawn con. Not my greatest work, but I had to wedge it in there. All right, we'll moving on. You all spent a week in Cancun celebrating Sheena

and Brock, all right. And then acoustic Katie just nodding and trying not to roll her eyes, but they're rolling anyway. Watching Katie trying to be nice to Sheena is hot. Like she can't do it. She's like, do not roll, do not roll. They're rolling, they're, they're, they go, they're the go, I'm sorry. I'm gonna rope.

How did I get in my robe? Did anybody had any of these on purpose? So, and he's like, okay, so this wedding, so many things to talk about. Let's talk about the thing that actually people really don't care that much about. Sheena, you got married a year beforehand. Why did you keep it a secret?

So she's like, well, we wanted to celebrate our love in private, because like we share a child together, we live together, we have a vlog together, we have a mountain climbing membership together, we created a filter on TikTok together, so like, you know, with the green card and all that, it's like, let's get it going. Like, I want to marry you. You want to marry me.

It was like nice. And we had like a little synchronized together. And I was just like, we didn't get married for any other reason except for us. LVP is like, and the green card, of course. And just, yeah, I'm the green card, of course. It's not like that Shina is able to be fucked. She's like the only person on the cast

that will still let LVP fuck with her. Yeah, it doesn't get all offended. Um, but yeah, Shina is such a liar. You know, Shina's always been so delusional, which is why we love her, but Shina, you did it so that you could get him his green card and still have your wedding be on the season of Vanderfum Fruels. Like, you were not gonna get married, not on camera. It felt through last year, so you waited a whole year so you could do it on camera. Just caught, just hit it. She did it on the spit. Well, also, like, don't forget,

there was talk that this show isn't get canceled. So it wasn't even clear that the show isn't come back. So they just were like, well, let's lock this down and like fingers crossed another season. So Andy asked Katie about the dinner with Tom in Mexico and he's asking Katie how she characterizes Tom's friendship with Brock and Sheena. And she's just like, I just feel like he's known Sheena for like a long time. But like he only met Brock like a summer before. And I just don't think they were close enough to consider Brock's

feelings over my own. Well, and then they show a clip of Katie arguing with shorts at that dinner in Mexico. And the only thing with color is Katie's red dress. Everything else is black and white. I'm like, the editors, you like, why are you putting her in Schindler's list? Why are you doing that? That's not nice. Why is, why is Katie the only one getting the Schindler's list treatment?

So then also in that argument is when Katie's like, shut up Tom, be real, be real Tom, be real, be real Tom, be real, be real. Be real that Utah. Yeah, that's great. Which we are also selling a shirt that says be real. Yeah. It's from Salt Lake City, but hey, why not?

And if you're a Katie fan, go get it. Be real, guys. So Andy's like, you told Tommy, prioritize it. She's like, well, obviously, like who cares? I don't care about any of this. So short, it's like, well, you know, the reason that it's a problem, Andy, it's because Katie has a long history. I've been finishing my friendships.

Oh, you have a long history of diminishing your marriage. Sure. I was gonna say. What the fuck? Seriously, Katie's like, I mean, you're friends with everyone. Like, you're a serial killer's wet dream. Like, you'll get chopped into pieces one day for being too trusting. It's worth like, oh, yeah, that's not true.

That's not, wait, is that true? Cause like, first there's Nal Krakowdiles eating humans and other serial killers that wanna want to kill friends. No! I would be so honored. Oh my god. Someone like actually followed me and like took the time to do Remember me like that's really nice if you think about it. I come back so it really stood out in that person's mind And she was like, there are people that you don't like right? Sure. She's like, no, there's nobody. Like, I trust everybody. I literally trust everybody. He's like, look next to you.

He's like, but I do trust you, Sheena. He's like, the other side of the home. I'm sad to fall over there. And Ariana's cracking up. So Andy's asking Ali about the catamaran when Lala pulled her aside to give her advice about dealing with abusive james in his temper. And Lala was like always maintain your powers, okay? They're called nannies. You never have to talk to her aunt again when it comes up to drive away. And that's

the nannies sec. Then your power has to be put on hold. Just don't speak to him when you don't have your powers. And Lala is like, think at the time, I was like kind of open to hearing what they had to say, but like now looking back, I do think it would, like I would have been more protective of us. I just was like, I think I was in a vulnerable space because I thought we were gonna be playing with cats, but it was a catamaran, which is I guess something very different.

So I was sort of thrown for a loop that day. And Mala's like, well, I think at that point in times, I was triggered by my own situations. And I didn't want like what had happened to me to happen to other checks. No lies, you know, this is where I run into problems with her. This is a lie. You were saying it to her because James is an abusive fucking asshole. And he's a nightmare, okay? And you're like, why are you with James? Just say that. But you're

aligned in this moment against sand of all, which I get. Okay, but it doesn't mean that nobody else does things wrong. James still does things wrong. It's going to be a boring reunion if you guys are just going to all lie about each other just so you could yell at sand of all some more. This is three fucking days, lady. Tell the truth. James is a piece of shit. That's why he's an abusive shit who doesn't respect women.

Say it. Well then, Lisa's like, Lisa's like, did I hear a quivering of a tear duct somewhere in the direction of Lala? I think I did. I think I can break this one all over again Why are you getting so emotional? You know what?

This is the side of you. I love I don't want us to the end of side I want to see your beautiful vulnerable simple to new to our side now let those tears flow Cry darling cry right into this tiny vial. Mmm, delicious. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. Smoke starts swirling around the sivander pump as she drinks the tears. And Lala's like, I felt like such an idiot.

This is summer, with everything happening around me. I just felt like babing somebody in that moment. Yeah, a lot of them. I was like, I was like, yeah, she like a baby in that moment. Yeah, I just was like, I was like, yeah, she wanted a baby, Ali. She's like, I just was like, I was like a full scrap. And so James is like, well, you know, like I know how strong Lala's been, okay. You know, she's conquered a company, give him Lala,

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wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, said, like, well, I didn't like that part, you know, and I just saw that. And I actually called Lollah up. And I said, fat slut, I know, you know, I'm not that guy. All right. So what do you keep saying it? What do you keep saying it, Lollah? All right. Because we heard it from Rick Hell in the Canyon Club and the Grihills, you know, and I just didn't expect that from Lollah. And Rick Hell watches the trailer and bros her eyes. And he goes, okay, speaking of the Canyon Club, what did happen at the Canyon Club? Well it was a lot. I mean obviously we had a very sacred space for us but like I was exhausted, I was sweating, I wanted a shower and I'm like don't talk to everyone. So you know I just ended up shouting to Ali, I want to go right fucking now and next thing you know security comes up to me

and says we don't know shouting, you't be shouting no no no no no no He tells the story as if this is like a normal thing to do could you imagine? Just going up to the person that you allegedly love and being like I want to go right fucking now I mean that's crazy There's a crazy thing to do in public. I'm sorry and he says it like oh, you know I was like a little tired. I was sweating. I just wanted to go home.

So I screamed at my girlfriend at the bar at the quote of a sacred space that you guys care about so much. Ali is like, yeah, we weren't in a shouting match or anything like that. I mean, he was just screaming, get me that he wanted to go home. What's the big deal? And SantaVall says, well, I didn't see it,

but in Ali's like, nobody saw it. Nobody was like a mind reader, so I don't know why Raquel said what happened because you'd have to like read mine, so point made. And so SantaVall's like, well, a security guard told me basically that they had been arguing inside and James maybe grabbed her arm

or something for a second or her wrist. And like, that was the second time we'd been in something like that together. So, James's like, oh yeah, and it was the second night she'd been in the room with you fucking nut cases. So quite frankly, I was protecting my girlfriend. Okay, so this is the second accusation of James doing assaulty things. Okay, another hurrah- this is more assaulty. The other one was like a harassmenty thing. But this is like two more examples of James,

the very least treating women like shit in public while he was wasted. And we're gonna ignore it again. Now, granted before anybody yells at me, I understand that these examples are both coming from sand of all, but aren't we supposed to be like this kind of shit or say something? You know what I mean aren't we supposed to be like, we also have our eyes or say something, you know what I mean? And we know how James is, you know, it just makes me really

uncomfortable that everybody is like, oh, it's totally fine. That's just James. It's not fine. And it's not fine when James is grabbing Ali's arm and Ali sitting there like, nothing happened, like totally nothing. I mean, what do you guys mind readers? You weren't there. It's disturbing. It's fucking disturbing. No, it's just, you know, that's James and Lala, right? Lala's, like we said last week, Lala's whole thing is that whatever storyline she has going, someone has a bigger version of it. And with James, it's sort of similar in that, like, whatever terrible thing that he's doing, someone's doing something just like a little worse. So we always skate by. He always looks like relatively okay in comparison, because there's always someone fucking up bigger in this case, something just like a little worse. So we always skate spy. He always looks like relatively

okay in comparison because there's always someone fucking up bigger in this case and of all. But James is, like he's emotionally a disaster. He is abusive in the way he talks to really anyone in his life. He can't control his anger despite him running off the set to allegedly calm down or whatever. these are terrible stories. And like the way he spins it, like, oh, it was just no big deal. Even if like the element of him touching her shoulder or whatever word in it,

the fact that he just like feels totally comfortable just to scream at his girlfriend in the club to the point where security had to come up to be like, what are you doing? And then he's like, oh, well, I was just tired and sweating, made sense. That should not be normalized. That does crazy person's activity and no one should be acting like that ever. Yeah, and it just bugs me that everybody like during the season is like,

oh my god, I can't believe you would treat a woman like that. It's like all of this. You know, but then in this episode, it's like, okay, James is blatantly showing displaying abusive behavior over and over, and we're just all going to pretend it's okay because we're not, we don't want to focus on James right now. You know, it's dangerous and it's, it's gross. So then, and it's hypocritical. You guys, so then we come back to, um, we're back. I want to get into the fallout from the affair, uh, and we're going to bring Rekeld to the stage and Sheena, because of the temporary restraining order Rekelle has against you,

you'll have to leave the stage. Speaking of what's the deal with that restraining order? She claims you punched her, did you? Did you punch her with your hand or with a hammer? Did you hit her with a hammer? Tell me the truth. I'm gonna speak to you about this after the 29th when this restraining order expires, because so you can't speak to you about this after the 29th when this restraining order expires

because so you can't speak to me about it now she goes no did you punch her He's like I'll get her I'll get her. I just ask it enough time. She'll say it I can't say anything and he's like all right who will hear things she in a punch There and it's like dude, there's a court case. Are you trying to get her thrown in jail? Of course, Andy would love that. She actually got arrested. So VPs, no help either.

She's like, well, possibly she slapped her. I mean, come on, wouldn't you? Mama's like, no, she didn't. And Katie goes, she can't. I mean, look at her fingers. She can't even make a fist. Do we not remember last week's testimony? I can't do it.

Yeah, I'm physically. I can make little duck faces. Is this a fist? I can't do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And be like, I always lose in rock paper scissors because I can only make scissors. So, scissors or paper.

But it's terrible. And my scissors were kind of weird because just all my fingers were like this. Ah! I couldn't even spell things out in sign language because I could never make an A and B. Okay, it's like literally impossible for me to close my hands.

Oh. She missed this if anybody's one during a rock. Look at me, very smart, off the very smart person. Okay, I know you're all shocked. Okay, so then Andy's like, sandable, what do you think happened? And sandable is just doing this like, despondent. He's doing his clear do-val in American horror story asylum. That's his act right now. He's like,

I am the Spondent right now. And I can't speak. Hold on. I'm gonna sigh. Everybody wait for it. Why is it so difficult darling why why why are you turning into broken bid right now? I mean I appreciate that but why and he's like I just I feel like I'm stuck between a rock and a harvest How can you say that to me when I like and do in sensors like a rock is literally the worst thing you could do to scissors And seeing this like yeah, just keep your mouth shut,

stand up all where you're gonna get shanked into shower. Bitch. Like, it comes across like, yeah, just shut up then, just shut up. And James is giving this look. He's got his eyebrows. He's giving like Bill looks like these evil like, yeah, looking right into the camera with his evil face. And Santa will say, listen, whoa, whoa, whoa, the thing is,

I don't wanna observe. By religion, with sheen adoons. And Ariana goes, you have no relationship with sheen. Are you? And I'm like, boom. Ariana's outward heckling of Tom

is like the best part of all of this. Like it's funny when James and Lala do it, but when Ariana does it, like she just does it so well. Like it's funny when James and Lala do it, but when Ariana does it, like she just does it so well. Like she really is booing her. She's booing the other team at like the soccer game, right? You have no relationship in it.

Boo, stupid. She's like pouring popcorn on his head, you know. But I wanna tell the truth. And she was like, huh, that truth, huh. And so Santa Valls tells us when she called, uh, when she called Ariana on the phone to speak her phone. That's very important. She took her Kels phone and was walking and then she eventually hung up her Kels phone. And Ariana's like, no, not eventually. She said, I'm on her Kels phone right now. I'm going to throw it and then I'm going to call you for my phone. That's what she said.

I love that that so casually put out there. You see this like, I'm on Rick House phone. I'm throwing it down a sewage drain. I know. Let me call you right back. And Ariana saying that Tom wasn't even there for like a certain part of it because she, like, sand of all is like, no,

I didn't see a speaker phone. She's like, no, you went running back to Tom Tom. You idiot loser, you run like a sissy boy. So, Ariana's like, she said, I pushed her. And Sandeval's like, no, she goes, I just punched that bitch in the face. And Ariana's like, she did not say that. She never said that.

Well, 100%, I'll take a polygraph. Man, I'm probably like, oh, I have someone who can give it to you. Just make sure you wear a very thick blazer sleeve under the polygraph. First you have to put on a North Face jacket. They require that. Then you can strap in. So, Arianna's like, no, because there were, the phone was in the street before any of that even happened. Tom. And he's like, no, because there were, the phone was in the street before any of that even happened. Tom, and he's like, no, 100%. That was fucking sad, because I remember thinking to myself,

and Ariana goes, oh, I remember thinking to myself, that you're a liar. And he's like, no, I was thinking like, oh my God, she said I punched that bitch in the face. And then I was like, well, I talked to Sheena from the phones, and not once, did she say I punched Rick on the face, not once. And I had to watch her tongue and then Santa was like, she was like, I was on the phone with her and like she didn't hear that.

Like, stop, Shina will keep your fucking mouth shut. Stop! So first of all, yes, she mother fucking did say it. I believe 100% that she said, I just punched that bitch in the face and threw her phone in the sewer. I believe that she said it. And I think everybody is completely covering for her

to not get in trouble. And guess what else? That's called being a good friend. And I would probably cover for her too. Yeah, and by the way, I would do the same thing they're doing. If they were covering for her, wouldn't Santa

have all know something about that? Didn't he just have shorts through all that covering for him for nine months? So doesn't he understand the value of cover, good cover? So he's such an asshole. He's choosing to, he's choosing to, he's saying like, she and I don't want things to end with you. She and I like, we're still friends, but then he's purposely trying to get it on record that she they did this now I don't think it's great to punch people. That's obviously not cool. You're not supposed to punch people but

I don't know it's it's heartwarming on such a toxic show to see people Being front being standing behind each other, you know? So Andy goes speaking of friendships. Andy goes, Sheena, you and Requel were really close until the truth came out about the affair. I mean, you were on water happens live together the night you found out. And you seemed really buddy buddy from the time

that came out. And at least you footage of them, I guess, like off camera waiting and doing like hand dances. They're like, boom, come on, boom. Look at the music. Ha! like off camera waiting and doing like hand dances they're like we look at the music ha! reticar bow, shinamari, they just know how just to be ha! my version.

so so then he's like well will you ever be friends again? and she's like never and so then we see brickel a hundred feet away in the trailer with no emotion on her face. And Andy says, well, Rickell said, Rickell and Sandeball both said that she knew something was going on. Is that true? And she said, wow, I remember suspicious based on stuff that Lala said and Katie had seen. And I started suspecting definitely that something was going on.

And Andy's like, did you tell Ariana? And she said, well, I went to the notes with her, and we discussed it. And then she said, she absolutely didn't believe there was any truth to it whatsoever. And I was like, okay. Yeah. And Ariana was like, this is true.

And not only that, Sheena brought it up in a very respectful way. And he's like, okay, well, Sheena, you heard that Sandevol was telling Requel. Likeina, you heard that sand of all was telling Requel, like you overheard that sand of all was telling Requel that Hina Rihanna were in an open relationship in Coachella as April. Do you feel like adding a piece of Coachella evidence to this already very sad story? Yes. Okay, please roll that unseen footage of me in a bucket hat. Thank you. So then we see from like the from the finale unseen footage, which

is like apparently in April, she told us person at Coachella, like after you went to sleep Ariana, they were in the hot tub and he made a comment to her like, you know Ariana and I are open and he started coming onto her at fucking Coachella. Chela! So when did Rick Hell say that to China? No, I guess someone, Rick Hell told them someone and someone told to China. Rick Hell said it to someone else and then they told China, I guess, after all this went down.

Chela, bad news for couples. Because Coachella's a fucking mess, okay. But also this is weird because last week when they were talking about the cell phone But when when Ariana looked at the phone they were like, why did you open the phone? And she's like, I just it was like a woman's intuition. I just felt like maybe I should look at it Well, wasn't it because people had told everyone in like she and the took you to lunch and told her everyone's talking about Rekal and Tom fucking like, I don't know. This is all getting fishy.

So, Eric, I don't know what it's fishy about, but it's sounding weird to me now. So then she and us like, wow, John, like I just took her to lunch and she's like, yeah, she was really respectful. And then Tom's like, I did not ever say that I had an open relationship in my fucking life. And Ariane is like, well then maybe you should stop hanging out with the fucking liar, Tom. And he's like, I did not ever say that I had an open relationship in my fucking life. And Ariana's like, well then maybe you should stop hanging out with the fucking liar, Tom.

And he's like, it's not true, I just talked to her. And she's like, well, she lied to you. Oh, and what were you hanging out with her so you could coach her? Which, yes, he was trying to. He was trying to really hard. I didn't coach her. And then she goes, right, because you used to coach me. She goes, no, no, you used to coach me.

Let's be real Ariana. You would coach me. She goes, well, you need it. She probably was saying, like, I don't think Ariana was coaching. Ariana was probably saying something like, could you stop talking so much you sound like an idiot? That's different from saying, like, please save these lines. So that way we seem like this sort of couple. So Andy is like, okay, moving on.

She and I have something for you. It's from Raquel. She cannot give it to you. So let me give it to you. And it's like, don, don, don, don't. So then we cut to commercial. And we see Ariana in this commercial of making her bed like happily.

And the voiceover is like, it's about time I shared my truth about something that's irritating me lately. Something was blocking me from the life I deserve. Hair stuck in my razor! These big easy razors are a different story. I have less irritation and no clogging, starting a whole new unclog chapter in my life. I also love Downey, the little mermaid, scratch off lotto tickets, Jimmy Dean, sausage corn dogs, a syruvy, and don't forget there's only one place

with bigger whoppers than Tom Sandefall, and that's Burger King. Bing! It's like, man, she just cleaned up that entire commercial session. She really took care of it all. Yeah, well done. Does it all?

Well done. So we come back and it's been, have a previous day, and Andy is doing his sit down with Raquel in her like Melanie Griffith working for Sigourney Weaver Blazer and She's he's like okay Raquel How do you feel about not interacting with Gina and she's like I Completely regret filing the restraining order. I thought it was an order at a restaurant as totally different.

And I've been taking every measure to get a dropped and like I spoke with my lawyer and he was able to file a request to dismiss it. So like, this is the paperwork, oh, sorry, this is just a drawing I made, it's a sunshine. Here's the paperwork, it's for Sheena that she's free. Well, this was filed today, Sheena. And I believe this is a request for dismissal

and it's in process. And so people kind of half ass clap. And Ariana's like, I wish she hadn't done that though, because she doesn't need to be around any of us. So, and Lala says, well, yeah, but I'm glad because like, Shino, you and your legal team, so we're like, let's fucking go, I know,

but the court system is a fucking bitch, and I'm so glad that you can be like, present with your kid. I'm so glad. As this is taken its toll on your kid. As someone who is battling the court systems, right, Lala, I'm sorry, but Sheena's court system store

is just a little bit more entertaining and more interesting. So we're gonna focus on her instead. All right, Sheena, would you like to cry? Well, I like keeps trying to turn it to just something that she's doing in her life and they keep turning away. So then Sheena has a Sheena mom long, or she's doing in her life and they keep turning away. So then she and I had to she and I mom long, or she's like,

I'm having this past two weeks, like first of all, the betrayal of my two best friends, that is like heart-breaking. But then this on top of it, like, I did nothing but take a runner. I gave her all the home when she didn't have it in my account. I was just as soon as you didn't have a runner. Didn't she have a sister growing up? Yeah, I think we're gonna, no, we're gonna actually, I think they were like

out of each other's lives for a little bit. Raquel has kind of like a fucked up situation, right? Where wasn't it that like her mom abandoned her so she was raised by her aunt who said it was her mom, but then it turned out to be her mom after all. Some weird shit. Some of her mom, I believe her mom got pregnant and didn't want the baby,

but then her sister wanted a baby and couldn't have a baby, so they adopted Raquel. I think it's how that went. Something like that. But anyway, it was fucked up. And so she and us like, I've been a really good friend to her, you know, and like, it's taken such a toll on me

that I haven't been present for my daughter because she sees me crying. And then summer started hyperventilating the other day because she saw me having a full mental breakdown. And someone I loved said, you know, I told her, look, I know you're better than this and you would never do this. And she said, I would never do this.

And I said, please don't ever do anything to make you be a part, like to make me be a part from you or you to be a part from me. Like Ariana and I have been right or dying for you. Like I love you so much, like don't ever change. And she said I wouldn't, I wouldn't do that. And Andy's like, and you said that you trusted your husband bad with her and she goes, yeah, the dream is literally in Vegas.

It was like a vlog convention, and she was like, I don't want to go back to my room. I was like in the middle of the bed. I was like, but sure, like you mean the bed, and like I trusted her with everything. Everything. I let her hold the camcorder. That Brock uses the philmy clapping on walls. I trusted her with the camcorder that Brock uses the filming climbing on walls. I dress it up with everything I think Oh God and Santa most like she know I'm really And James said lol on me to tissue lolos crying to everybody lola Can we get some cameras on lola crying? So she now has this big long model of this big

from cameras on Lolo crying. So she now has this big long monologue, this big, cheerful melodramatic monologue. It's kind of amazing. And then it cuts to Raquel and the trailer going, oh, now I'm thinking I should have included a personal note. What the fuck is so weird? I don't know what she's even being sarcastic or being real, I mean.

No, I think she's being real, but it was just this. It's just so weird. It's such a weird Dude, like I don't know how to even take her at this point So now everybody's crying and everyone's like they're having a cry off on the stage and LVP is of course, you know like You know her head spinning so I can make God wing tape stat I'm gonna need a lot of wing tape over here get it in here They're falling out of the sky all these birds their, their wings are broken, get nets, catch them, make sure they land safely.

Haven't seen this many broken birds and pieces since I was at a Kentucky fried chicken with nothing. Tape! So, Santa was like, yeah, well, this is a legend, it's something that spiral out of control He doesn't mean like the last 15 years, or we know each other is like It's not like I'm in a fake person for it after the last eight months. I mean that should tell you You know, we did not do this But And and Ariana's just has such rage on her face and Ariana's like you watch what you fucking say right now. And James goes, yeah, you don't get to say it. Like James, Ariana is about to have like, she's about

to have a moment stop interrupting. Okay. Someone emailed, because I was complaining last week about James constantly talking over Ariana. And someone made a really good point and said, like, you know what really sucks about that is like every time Tom is being drilled by Andy and James interrupts, it gives Tom time to like sort of thoughts and come up with an answer as opposed to letting Tom sit there and squirm and be stuck on the hot seat. So I think that's such a good point because like James is actually inadvertently helping Tom a lot in these moments. Right. Yeah, you're actually, yeah, you just became his team member on accident, you know and so

He's like it's malicious, but I didn't do it malicious intent and Ariana's like well that fucking intent was there Because you already fuck somebody else before this Tom. You are disgusting and you guys are done being friends anyways Don't even fucking worry about it. She's not gonna be your friend and so James is like move on move on and not gonna be your friend. And so James is like, move on, move on. And Ariana says, go ahead, be the real you. And he goes, oh yeah, well, this is the real you right here. And she's like, I feel great about who I am. My armpits are completely smooth

and they don't have one single fucking bump on them. You motherfucker. And he's like, you deserve, and you know what, you deserve to be that unbiologetically, but like, you were always on a podgette to our entire relationship. You never ever said, you deserve to be that un-pologetically, but like you were always un-apologized to our entire relationship, you never ever said. You were sorry about everything, she just shut the fuck up, okay?

That's like, shut the fuck up, that's like super convenient that you seem to remember so well. Do you remember what you said to Sheena in that conversation that you really don't care about her and that you weren't really friends? Do you remember that Tom and she's like, I didn't see her. Okay, this is what actually happened.

No, that's what happened. That's what happened, Tom. And he's like, no, this is what happened. She's, oh yeah, from the liar, great. And she was like, I come from a camera. I was wild about it. And so this part, so this part too. Okay, so now here we go with another weird Sheena story.

So SantaVal goes, Sheena said, I asked you about this at Ariana's DFW event. Is that what it was? I don't know, this fucking story. The DFW. So he goes, I asked, Sheena said, I asked you about this at Ariana's DFW event. And I'm like, Sheena, I am not an Ariana goes,

which that fucking rat came to by the way for a shoe Discount and then sand of all is like well I'm like she know I'm not gonna tell you anything and she is like well I know of course you're not gonna tell me in that situation because like I'm her best friend But like ask her best friend. I have to ask you about it and like you had to at least lie to my face And he goes yeah, and I didn't lie to your face. And she goes, because then I would have had to be the person to tell it.

So she is basically saying like, I knew this. I confronted Tom about it because what kind of friend would I be not to confront Tom? And Tom lied, it's like she's trying to get- I didn't, I was in a lot of the care. A lot of people were so bizarre. And then she's like, well, thank God you're lying to me because then I would have had to tell her.

So I'm like, you're thanking him for lying to you. And he's like, yeah. And then the burden would have to be on you. I was doing a favor. And she goes, oh, yeah. Like you did to Schwartz, put the burden on him. And then Lisa's like, but Schwartz would never tell Sheena before he did it.

I was like, what are all of you people talking about right now? I can't follow the reason anymore. Boy, she's saying, of course he's never gonna tell Shina before he tells you, Arion. I'm like, that would just be disrespectful. So if Shina's confronting him at this event, then he's gonna have to say no because it's respectful to talk to you first.

Look at him, he's so respectful. He was waiting to talk to you first, Arion. A darling, thank Tom. Can we have a parade for Tom and so Ariana's like well he's not gonna tell me until a few days until three weeks ago or two weeks ago or something and then he's like well I'm sorry to have to do this but I don't know what the fuck any of you were talking about Sina you can go back and hang out with Brook Rard that brought you okay Some green cards just just get out of here for a while. Like a little hope.

I'm gonna get out of here. I cannot stand anymore of the Sheena segment. I have to go. It sucks off. So that way, but then she was like, okay, well, before we do that, though, Andy, you may remember that 10 years ago when we shot our season two reunion. I don't remember. Okay, but anyway

You had to make it you made a joke that like my in 2023 like I'm gonna have like a full album of songs because at that time I was releasing a song a year remember that remember that remember that no I do I blocked it on my mind Please don't force the zombie yeah, so anyway. I do have a little something for you. It's my good as gold album So anyway, I do have a little something for you. It's my goodest gold album. Look at it. So she gives him the album, which is actually pretty cool. And then they are playing the music as she walks off. It's like her, it's her championship music as she walks off the stage

and like into a minivan that she gets transported off to a trailer in in West Kavina somewhere. I know. I love that they totally got her. Usually they bring them up and like escalates and stuff, but they put Cena in like an Azusa minivan as good as Gold plays. Yeah, dodged her advantage. She gets into, you know. So Santa Valls pacing around chain smoking outside miserable and then he like steps out his smoke and he's like blowing it blowing it. Which is so funny. It's like a villain being for.

FOILLED AGAIN. BURRINKA LIBE WILL GET YOU. So then, Sheena leaves. Now Raquel is getting into her minivan and she's coming to the set and Andy says, Swords, you know you need to move over when seat there, right? Because Raquel's coming so we want her to sit by Tom and Ariana goes, he's not moving. No, he's not. And, uh, okay.

I'm just going to listen to Ariana. She is on a national chicken commercial. So my argue. So before, uh, Rikkel comes out, we go back to yesterday, the big one on one conversation. And Andy is like, so, Rikkel, we go back to yesterday, the big one-on-one conversation. And Andy is like, so, Rick Helm, how do you feel about being here? Would you like to express it with some crayons? And she's like, I'm a little nervous.

Like, I know it's important to be here because I have to take accounting classes from my actions. I'm just going to assume you mean accountability. Yeah, accountability. And that's why I'm here. I'm here because I want to talk about interesting rates on your mortgage. You're like interest rates. Yeah, I'm wearing a blazer. So okay, well explain to me how this relationship started. What was the first spark in this romance? She's like, okay, well explain to me how this relationship started. What was the first spark in this romance? She's like, well, Tom and I have been friends for a while

and he's always been somebody who's been in my corner and rooted for me and then things started getting more and more romantic for me, girls trip after the, after the girls trip. So, come on, my God, could you say? Any more like you're just reciting lines. I'm like, oh my god, could you say any more like you're just reciting lines? I know.

Come on. Did he make you feel special? He made me feel heard and seen. And those were feelings I haven't maybe ever felt since forever, ever, maybe I don't know. It's like, OK. So you never felt those with James? And she's like, no, Andy.

Oh, OK. Well, how did you envision that this would play out? Did you think there was a path forward for the two of you? I thought there was, which is why I brought tennis shoes because I don't know what would be good to wear and heels on, so I'm excited for the path. And I think I was living in my own wait hold on let me look at my phone again I

Think I was living in my own reality and I thought it was gonna work out but it was just my phone shut off So hmm should we start from the top? So he's like it's incredible all the little signs of Ariana ignored. I mean you and Tom at the happy To Staying with you at the you Tom staying with you at the barbecue instead of going home You know, it's like she always wrote hard for you and Tom said she just didn't want to know Is that something you were telling yourselves that she's just in denial and she's like? Yeah, it's seen that way I mean, she never pressed us.

She never confronted me about it. And from what Tom's told me, she didn't question him much about it. She just believed at face's value what he was telling her about it. He's like, it seems like you're blaming her and you did that because I lured you into a question that would force you to blame her.

You understand how I just did that that you dumbass and she's like But at the time that was my mindset so like now I know that she really did want to know and it was very to Deceitful that was it to see. I always have trouble with that line. I am very ashamed of it. So he's like, okay, so she found something on Tom's phone and she called you about it. And she goes, yeah, and she, it was a lot of pain she was in. And she begged me to tell her when this all happened.

And at this point, we were gunna tell her, we were just trying to get our, you know, quote unquote story straight because Tom felt like it would happen. And at this point, we were gunna teller. We were just trying to get our, you know, quote unquote story straight because Tom felt like it would hurt her to know how long it was going on. Oh, okay. So he was telling you what to say. Yeah. Shocker. So, and he's like, so you were going to truncate it. And she's like, well, I mean, no, but elephants are a good idea. Everyone loves elephants. I should have thought of that. He's like, what did he say to you? The elephant? Ariana. What did Ariana say? Oh, she said, thank you for telling me because Tom never would have told me the truth. And I was like,

want to hang out later? And she was like, no. I was like, why? And I was like, should I write a letter to Sheena to go with the restraining order I made for her? Then she was like, no. And so Andy's like, did Tom Preppy for the reunion? Like we have obviously been talking about the reunion and repairing what to expect and how to approach things. So, so that's a yes. Okay, got it.

So how are you feeling about seeing everyone in the group setting? I'm preparing for the worst and hoping for the best. Okay, well, you should really get rid of those hopes. Okay, you're going to be fed. So now she's backstage and she's got a huge smile on her face. She's talking to a, she's like doing that like, one and a standing back. There's smiling and a producer is like, so producer Jeremiah's. Jeremiah. You're ready, darling.

You want to come sit on grandpa's lap, Bob was sitting here on a rocking chair and you decide what you're going to do. And she's like, no, I'm not really ready, but I have to come front in. So Andy says, because of the restraining order, Shina is now a hundred yards away in her trailer. We see Shina holding the white cloth.

She's like, in between her claws. She's like, coming out. Ah! So. Ariana, how you feeling about this? Being confronted with your long-term boyfriends, Mistress, last year, former best friend. I gotta say it's ready gold for us. How do you feel about this? Being confronted with your long-term boyfriend's mistress slash your former best friend.

I gotta say it's ready gold for us. How do you feel about it? She's like, not great. Not great, though. So then, Santa Valls, so she's coming out and Santa Valls, like, green light, green light, green light, bro, green light. What does that mean?

Why is he saying green light? I have no idea. Maybe it was like a good game right? I didn't get that. So, and then Schwartz pulls out pills from his pocket and he's trying to be a reality. Like, oh my God. Yeah, look at me, I've got pills.

I'm so nervous, but it's mean. And so Santa was like, what is that? And he's like, oh, Santa X, Jesus. It's not like, okay, he's like idiot. Where are you taking Santa X, Jesus? And Santa was like, yeah, San ex. Jesus. No, like, okay, he's like idiot. Where are you taking San ex? Jesus. And because San DeVal goes, yeah, you should just tell him you're, it's your medication.

And it's none of their fucking business. I mean, God, San DeVal, really? You're trying to prove how not controlling and pre-planning you are. You're like, the only coach on camera from trying to recall. We're trying to control this fucking guy. Come on, man.

Seriously, so he, yeah, Schwartz like throws the Xanax across like least a van to pump. They're like, stop it. This is serious right now. You idiot. Sir Raquel comes sauntering onto the set and Ariana just will not look at her. She's looking right down at the ground and then she takes her seat and he's like, hi Raquel! And she's like, hi, she's like, she's like, she's like to get to write in front of her seat and then puts down a boogie board. She's like, I'm sorry, Rikail. That's not gonna work. You've aged out of patch and please sit down.

Okay. And next week is part three, the confrontation. Finally, Ariana and Rikail face to face. So we'll see what happens. But I'm sure. Oh, sure. Big, dun, dun, dun, energy. Wow. Anyway, everyone, thanks so much for being here through this week of Reunions and other stuff.

It's been a wild ride. I am now going to head off to the James and Raquel engagement party venue for this wedding. My cousin's wedding. So I'm very excited. I'll have, I probably will have very little to report back. What am I supposed to say? It was, it's a building, it's a building, but I'm still very excited to be partaking in this Vanderpump rules, geographical history in the middle of this scandal of all moments. So the point is what I'm trying to say is

I really feel like an American hero at the moment. That's all, that's what I feel like. Yeah. It's going to be super fun. I mean, I think he should look on all the walls and see if grandma button signed anything with like a little drawing of a dick. I plan out. I plan on making a speech from a balcony. And then maybe I'll have someone else make a speech and then I'll just coach them from behind the balcony

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