Watch What Crappens - PumpRules: Charli and the Mock-a-twit Factory

Episode Date: June 4, 2020

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Starting point is 00:01:08 To see what these idiots are saying, but... Yes. ...a lot of conversation for Vanderpump rules. I know. Can you believe that this episode aired the same day as the show must pause? I think that went on in social media media blackout Tuesday. Could you imagine The option that this would happen. It's like poetic, you know Sick poetry sickly poetic
Starting point is 00:01:35 Anyway, we hope you guys are taking care of each other out there taking care of yourselves We hope you're all okay our love is with you our support is with you. Yes, and Speaking of support, let's shoot out some small businesses today. I'm just going to pick one out of the hat here. I'm going to go with Cassidy. Cassidy's friend, Sarah, has a small business. It is an awesome company called Queer Gear. Well, and you know what else?
Starting point is 00:02:01 In all of this, we haven't said happy pride month to all of our brothers and sisters Oh, yeah, so happy pride month as well You guys so this is perfect for today. This is called queer gear and Queer gear is a queer woman owned apparel brand dedicated to bringing high quality Inclusive and empowering clothing and accessories to the queer community They have must have pieces that are perfect for pride, date night with your partner, political events, awkward holiday dinners with the family. I like that. Or anywhere else you want to be uniquely, broadly, proudly, and unapologetically.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Yo, go to shopqueergear.com. That shopqueergear.com and you can find them on Instagram at shopqueergear. Wow, I got a really interesting one here. This is from Christina C, who has a family-flooring business called Capitown. Stop, Capitown. It's a small family-owned business in Queens, New York City, and they work a lot in film and television and even sold floors to the most recent real housewives
Starting point is 00:03:03 of New Jersey Jersey reunion set. How cool is that? Capitab. So, we work on everything from billions and succession to this night show, but due to the pandemic, nothing can be filmed, and they've lost most of their business until filming can resume in New York City. Selling flooring from custom rugs and runners to residential and commercial clients is the only source of business that they have right now, And they are doing contactless pickup for rugs.
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Starting point is 00:04:14 I just have to say that not only is the Van Dupont rules cast, sporting all sorts of interesting zoom reunion looks, I'm sporting an interesting crap in zoom hair look today. I just want to say, if anyone is interested to see what my puffy my puffy here looks like at the stage of the quarantine It's here for you to see yeah, it looks like I'm doing this recap with a 14-year-old boy. Yes. You look very young today. It's crazy. How much hair can D8? I mean not that you look old before but I mean you really look like a little kid today I know I feel like I need to grow like a little puberty moustache. Just to really, just to fill it out, right? Oh my god, please do. Okay, so speaking of people who never advanced past the age of 14,
Starting point is 00:04:53 let's talk about Vanderpump rules. Vanderpump rules. So it starts off with all the usual, like getting ready for the reunion, and it's like Lisa is like in her bra, and she's putting on a shirt like oh I didn't realize the web camera was on right now I'm in my brush one of my boozum yeah she gives us a full on like still got it yes yes that's exactly what that was and St's like, doing my own makeup is not the problem. That is. And it's like a rat on the couch, you know, her weave.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah. And then we see Sheena and she just has like all, just like every single like, she looked like she was doing performance art on her face, just all these like stripes of makeup and color, you know, that for future blending. I was like, man, she probably has to do this every single day. Yeah, this is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:05:50 And Lala's like, I did my own glam. Who shut up Lala? Lala gets, okay, just to start off, just to warn anybody, you guys are diehard Lala fans. You get a huge fuck off in this region. Huge fuck off, a shun. A shun up.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Okay, who's even talking to you? You know, Jack's, Jack's is so mean doing what I just said. He's even talking to you. That's what I was saying to Lala. Like who's even talking to you? What did you even do this year? But show up and kiss everybody's ass kiss the most popular person's ass on the show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lala has shown her true colors and They are to their terrible colors. They are awful, awful colors. She has a terrible palette and she has shown it all on this show. She never misses an opportunity to pat herself on the back and to trade up.
Starting point is 00:06:39 That's what she does. Yeah. Upgrade. Yeah. It's just listening to Beyonce all morning. So that's good. So yeah. Max is like, I think Dan is pooping probably. Dan is probably pooping. Yeah. And she's like, yeah, I figured he was going to say something like that. Well, this is the guy everyone wants to sleep with. What's wrong with you over there? I don't understand that appeal. And
Starting point is 00:07:03 then Lisa sees Andy goes, Andy, are you going to get dressed? He's like, uh, this is my outfit. She's, yes, but are you going to get dressed into your reunion look? Are you going to be doing that, Andy? No? It's like, this is it. It's like, seriously, Andy, we need to get going, get dressed! At least, Lynch roller yourself, darling. You look like you've been making up with the bomb in the snowman he looks ridiculous and uh a shina yeah I just I've wrote shina looks like she's getting ready like I don't I don't know what she's doing but she's got a huge rat she's contouring right so she's like the I don't know how many angles she's gonna have by the end of this but she looks
Starting point is 00:07:42 crazy she's gonna come out of this looking like a Rubik's cube I know it looks like she's doing like geometric proofs on her face. It's just like lines and angles Yeah And then Jack's tell I guess he tells Brittany. He's like hey, can they see your gut? I didn't hear that. Are you not disgusting enough? Wow I did not hear that and in Santa Valls he's Brett because Brett's hair is like in this Brett does that thing where he like shakes his head forward so all his hair goes forward and they pushes it back and so he just like could shook it forward so all the hair was like just going
Starting point is 00:08:19 forward and like in Santa Valls like dude hey Brett for real is that how your hair is gonna be because and Santa Claus like, dude, hey Brett, for real, is that how your hair is gonna be? Because let me just guide you through your first reunion. Don't do a crazy look, okay? And please, please don't look at my new facial hair and strange spots of fake bronzer, okay, please. Yeah, Tom's look was interesting. I love the goatee and mustache oddly enough,
Starting point is 00:08:44 because I usually hate a goatee on a person. Hate it. But I loved his. Now the hair growing outside of the goatee, it looks like it's stippled on. Like he's gonna be in musical theater and he just has like a little little piece of makeup, you know?
Starting point is 00:08:59 Not really sure what's going on. He looked like he was in costume. It was so strange because he had like, it looked like he had fake tanoron, but only on some parts of his cheeks. Like, he had, it's almost seemed like he had tanned or maybe he had contoured under where he had his like little hair. So it just, I was trying to describe what it was. I'm a prized face. Like, the upper part of his face was orange and the lower part of his face was not orange. Like, that's usually reserved for the neck. It's a brief face.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Maybe like a forgotten villain from Dick Tracy or something like that. I was trying to, I was trying to place where, where, what that look was. Yeah. So let's start. Okay. And he's like, well, coming at you from our homes. Yeah. I have a feeling our social distancing isn't going to keep people from getting people's
Starting point is 00:09:47 babies. So Lisa, there's been a pandemic. How has that affected your breasts? Have you had sex with the can lately? And you ever worry they can get coronavirus? From getting the boob job. Think about getting the boob job. Okay. She's like emotionally
Starting point is 00:10:06 Financially, Kuna ta ta rally Nicolaynally, we're in pain and Nicolayn's just like swinging behind her on a pendulum So So then I was like hey and st see, you just got a new house. Was that like, how do you like it? And she's like, well, honestly, the best part is being able to have a view. And I'm like, ooh, that was a great passive aggressive burn against all the generic farm
Starting point is 00:10:37 houses that the rest of the cast got in Valley Village. She's like, yes, I'm on a hill. Yeah. And so Andy tells Jack, hey, by the way, Jack, you know, I was just watching the season finale before this and I just wanted to say thanks for allowing us to appear on your show and old man, Jack, it's like, what?
Starting point is 00:10:57 What? What happened? What happened? What happened? What happened? What happened? Oh, you tell, you tell Lisa, was your show is really funny actually, we're happy, but it was not nice at all Lisa's not last at all
Starting point is 00:11:07 But it was really funny jacks. I was playing the middle man. I mean the middle man area on this like my job was on the floor Seriously Savannah pumps like yes, well, you know, he does believe it's his show, you know if he could change it He would and Jack's like yeah, you know when you're arguing and you're arguing in your fighting, you know, you say stupid things sometimes, you say stupid things sometimes. Yeah. That he goes through the fall to excuse me. Yeah, just stupid stuff comes out. You know what I'm saying? Stupid stuff, you know. And so, yeah, and then Andy's asking Sandevol about what inspired his new facial hair. And Lala is a huge fan of it. So look, Ronnie, you and Lala, do agree on one thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Well, we also both love fat guys with tons of money. So there's that. I mean, if you have a private jet and you order two fried chicken breasts at dinner, I mean, two fried chickens instead of one in your fried chicken sandwich, I would immediately marry you. Like I wouldn't even ask you.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Yeah. So, hey, Rekel, does James is new sobriety one in your fried chicken sandwich, I would immediately marry you. Like I wouldn't even ask you. So, uh, hey, Rekel does James is new sub body making more attractive and she's basically like, yeah, I mean, I think that when he's behind the DJ booth is when I'm most turned on, I would say I'm five times more turned on when he's behind the booths as we all know that comes out to 27 oh Rickl that doesn't even make sense and even if it didn't make sense 27 still is not a multiple of five so I'm sorry you will be missing out on the ice cream social all right everybody now pick up ice cream I've sent everybody but we're kell and take a bite right in front of her. Oh, right! Hi! And Andy is like, Chris, did that turn you on when James with DJ? Did that turn you on too?
Starting point is 00:12:51 And she's like, Oh, my earpiece got off. Seriously, that's the subtle humor. That's the subtle humor. Seriously, I am. I still am a comedian, seriously. So, hey, Dana, because everyone wants to know this, have you made the transition finally
Starting point is 00:13:08 into bartending? And she's like, yeah, I'm bartending at TomTom now. So I'm bartending at night and serving, so yeah, just in the life of a drul comedian, and I'm saying, yeah, I love that she's still season one, so she gets season one money, and so she still has to work every day. Two jobs. Two jobs. So Andy asks, she never about her boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:13:37 He's like, yeah, I met you. I tell your boyfriend, man, he's a big hot Australian guy. His name is Brock, and he seems like a big dumb Australian guy named Brock. So that was good. Put my hand on his junk. But I said sorry, I was just trying to see who's in that box. So I didn't really get out. As he is, and he's like, still has quorgine with your big Australian man. And she's like, oh, it's been good. I mean, we've definitely had our comments and differences and times, but we have great communication. I'm like, okay, so you guys are about to break up.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Got it. Got it. Yes. So you're gonna break up over really stupid fights. Yeah, okay. And James was like, yeah, when we stayed there, they were fighting over who was gonna put fruit in the breakfast pancake in the morning.
Starting point is 00:14:18 When one at Blueberries won't stop, there is a smile. It was not smile. But to be fair, I really like strawberries and like I even though I do like blueberries too Like strawberries are just like really special to me because my aunt my saint my aunt who made like my crop top What I dress she also made me like a crop top Blueberry holder and so like it just I have a lot of collecting emotions about all those barriers So like I think it just makes sense Andy and like we just have like really good communication, okay?
Starting point is 00:14:42 It's a kind of my thing Abby. Yeah. So, hey Charlie, have you tried pasta yet? And Charlie's like, um, yes I have. I went to Olive Garden, and these guys, oh! You didn't go to Cheesecake Factory then? Yes I remember. At least the flashback of Charlie's
Starting point is 00:15:01 Reconpressedly recommending that Cheesecake and Cheesecake over, sir. And Cena is like mother ducking all of the new ones. She's like, well, she said that she liked the cobbler and sir. And Charlie's like, yeah, the cobbler is like my favorite. It's like, oh, and then I guess just stick with the cobbler. Meanwhile, we see Brett, who I don't think he says like 10 seconds, where he's apologizing for racism at the end.
Starting point is 00:15:28 But otherwise we don't hear anything from him. He's just printing in his camera the whole time staring at himself literally doing this. Like, hmm, with his shirt open. It's just so disgusting. You're such a waste of space. Get out, fuck boy. You can't even fuck. Get out.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yes. Non-fuck boy. So now we go on to the first topic, first topic which is sausage book event at tom tom which is when we get a nice flashback of sausage saying how dare you come in here right now and do this how dare you so everyone's still confused about why SantaVal blew up at Sasi with his text and especially Katie, Katie is like, you know, it's a convenient narrative and SantaVal is basically just convulsing like, dude, I explain this dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude,
Starting point is 00:16:16 Tom is gonna have a connection fit at some point in this episode. He's just having a fit over every little thing. But then the way they all explain it, Tom just sounds like he was probably just wasted. Like I don't know what was happening at two in the morning, but none of it ever really big sense. He was like, well we did tell it.
Starting point is 00:16:34 We did plan it with you. Like you even, they showed us seen where he was like, yeah, we've even got a drink called the basic bitch bro. What are you doing? That's called the basic bitch dude dude. And then he's acting like he never heard anything about it. And he's like, Well, you know, I was just in the bad ways.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I was stressed, but this was an event at TomTom. And then who does she go to? Of course Schwartz, because he's a yes man. He'll say yes to everything. No, I will. I will. I will. He's right. I changed my mind.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Yes, that's true. Yes, I won't. Yes. I won't Literally saying yes while you disagree with me. Yes, that's not true. No, I'm not know I'm am So I was like, um, I didn't think I need to go through every single person who works at Tom Tom a f So then You catch her just in there. She's like, what am I supposed to ask everyone who works at TomTom? Like, what's next?
Starting point is 00:17:27 I'm supposed to talk to him, Axe. He's the general manager of TomTom. So, he's not a terrible idea. It's not terrible. So, hey, with SantaVal jealous of Stasi, he's like, oh my dude, oh my god, I'm like, no! Ah! Like, that's like, like, if I was,
Starting point is 00:17:44 I could tell you right now, I would take that to my grave That's like my biggest fear ever is me jealous Vanderpromp's like Stasi hard didn't perfectly a reaction at the ball now that was different and Stasi's like yeah, yeah, I should have dragged his ass outside, who cares, where are we even talking about Santa Ball, blah. Yeah, basically, Santa Ball summed it up. He finally admits that he was just afraid that if the party didn't go smoothly,
Starting point is 00:18:15 they'd be made to look like idiots. And essentially, I think by putting it together, it was 2am, he was drunk. He realized that nothing was in place because Tom Schwartz was handling it. And it was gonna be a disaster and the editors were gonna Make them look like fools and he didn't want to look like an idiot on TV with his bar and he felt like he was being set up So that's why he went nuts
Starting point is 00:18:34 He ever thought it. Yeah, yeah, I didn't still don't really get that whole thing So and he's like all right let's switch gears here, which is yeah, you know one of his one of his old face He's bringing back. Yeah, let's switch gears here, which is, yeah, you know, one of his, one of his old faces he's bringing back. That's a good gear. Yeah, there's a lot to unpack here. Let's switch gears. They switched to David and Max. Now I have to note that Max has looked absolutely terrified
Starting point is 00:18:56 this entire, he's like, he's terrified and also exhausted this entire time. I can't help but wondering if he is simultaneously also in a saw situation. Like, is he filming this reunion? did this entire time. I can't help but wondering if he is simultaneously also in a saw situation. Like, is he filming this reunion? Well, also, like his leg isn't a bear trap of some sort. Like, he has like an hour left.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Like, what is going on with him? Because he, I mean, he's always looking around. Like, you know, he'll never look people in the eye when he talks or whatever. So he's doing that and he's like biting his lips. Like really hard. And he's just looking also exhausted. It's like he's been kidnapped and put in Much really hard and he's just looking also exhausted. It's like he's been kidnapped and put in a trunk
Starting point is 00:19:28 and he's been there for like five days, so he's nervous but he also needs to sleep. Yeah, yeah. He's basically like someone who has a one episode arc on Homeland, you know? Oh God, oh God. Kerry Mathison gonna give him some poison ink any second now.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I knew you'd talk. So Andy's asking Max about his relationship with Sheena, and he frames their relationship like this. He goes, you know, I mean, I work a lot. So, you know, when we were together, we just, we tried to do things like she took me to a charge game and we did activities of the things that she does. I was like, wow, that sparks out in like a real intense.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Yeah, he's basically trying to make it sound like he was just hanging out with her while admitting that she was always taking him to really expensive places. But also complaining that it was only things that she likes to do. I mean, that's such a slimy little prick. I know, and then he's actually wearing the Apple watch and he tells the story of the Apple watch. He says, he's like, well, listen, I wear a watch every day as if that's a good personality trait.
Starting point is 00:20:27 He's like, yeah, I watch every single day and I told her I really want the new Apple watch because it's waterproof, you know, cause I love oceans, right? Remember everyone, my whole thing, oceans, anyone? Anyway, she retained that information and bought me a watch as a gift. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:20:43 And Chris seems like, hey, she know, I want to pour shit. No, there was another one away. Two for two, no danger zones coming up, especially not on this segment. I don't see myself getting into any sort of trouble this segment. So I'm like, come on now, Max, you were downplaying your relationship with with a sheena with Dana. So what the level that is like, well, you were downplaying your relationship with Gina, with Dana. So what the hell was that? And he's like, well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:21:07 Like, I don't think like I give off like a lot of exclusive, like saying, like, I don't even know how I give off exclusive. Like, this is such a weird way to put it. And then they shut the clip. They cut to the clip of him going, okay. So now we're like exclusive. Yeah. He's denying that he had like that.
Starting point is 00:21:24 They have like exclusive Excusive vibes so then he's like you know my whole thing is you know I downplayed it cuz I just I don't like everyone running around saying that we're exclusive Exclusive, you know, I just don't want people in my business my first of all you literally manage a business So people will be in your business and second of all you get into people's business because you have sex with your workers Yeah, I'm having sex with your workers. Yeah, it's kind of having sex with your employees if you don't want your other employees talking about it. Yeah, it's as simple as that.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And also, if you guys are exclusive and you feel some sort of way about people saying, oh, they're exclusive, then that's like some shit that you have to figure out because if you usually if you're going to be exclusive with someone you should be kind of proud about it. You should be happy. You should be like yeah yeah I'm totally into this girl we're exclusive that is correct. Like why is he embarrassed? Is he afraid that by people saying that they're exclusive he can't fuck around on her? I think so. It cuz he's a pig yeah and Dana's like well you know you were just keeping me on the back burner yeah Dana and you need that about him before you started to like your dumb to okay. Yeah, you're dumb to Congratulations congratulations angel landsbury you figured it out. Yeah, so
Starting point is 00:22:34 Yeah, I have a question. I have a question was there ever really a honeymoon phase like when you loved each other She goes you know what you know what I'm in a minute. I was I was obsessed with Max I was fully obsessed. He was charming, charismatic, hard to see, I know, but he was. And I was just like, I was so into him. I fully thought we were gonna be together, but you know what though?
Starting point is 00:22:54 You said that to me, you said that to Adriana, you said that to Valissa, you said that to Bastefany, you said that to, you said that to Manifurm, you said that to, push down. You said that's a, you said that's a metaphor. You said that. Push that. You said that's a blina. You said that to chara. Crarrary. I mean, come on. You said that, you said that to
Starting point is 00:23:22 starry crack. And Danica is cracking up and Max, like no no I didn't no I didn't and she's like you can't just go say things to all these girls max and then be like surprised when they got like a mad at you and he's like yeah but you know what these girls are all the same it's like two weeks and you guys are like running through your emotions with me and like you're doing great max yeah doing great. Maybe maybe you should like look into the common denominator there Okay, yeah, this girl's it's just girls. They're all crazy. They just don't want me It's just this girl They're all the same. Yeah, all those girls is like you can't hang out with them for two weeks
Starting point is 00:24:00 And tell them how much you liked me want to be exclusive without them catching feelings. What is up with these girls? So Andy's like, well, Dana, you guys did reconnect after the show, shot, right? And she's like, yeah, well, you know what? Like sometimes when you have an act like things are unfinished. And I love that she's making their relationship like the Noteback, okay? You bring the guy for two weeks on the show and took back a necklace. Okay. Yes, seriously. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap. Celebrity beef.
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Starting point is 00:26:50 The Windom beneath our wings, it's Joe Windom. Let's go on a bender with Lauren Fender. Give him hell, Miss Noel. It's a frog's ass water tie, it's Rosen's Lady. Shannon out of a cannon Anthony. Let's get racing with Miss Daisy. Let's take off with Tim Lepp playing She ain't no shrinking violet coup d'art. We love you guys Hey, is there anyone else here who maxes a slip with anyone anyone max you slept with and he's like
Starting point is 00:27:18 well, yeah, I mean, I mean, uh Kristen and he's like Yeah, I mean, I mean, uh, Kristen. And he's like, oh, real? Yeah. And Kristen's just doing that thing where she pulls the back of her head really high, like she's a doll, like a string doll. And she just starts like shaking her head like, that's right.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Yeah, she acts like she was just like figured out at a murder mystery party. She's like, nope, nope, you got me. And then, and James just starts cracking up. James just loses shit And it's like looking into the camera like when you call your mom during quarantine. She's like Sassy is like trying to figure out how she's like here's Kristen's name and she's trying to figure out how she can manufacture this into outrage So so they Chris is like, yep, did it twice did him twice. Yeah, seriously can't say seriously just once got go seriously seriously
Starting point is 00:28:11 I'm everyone's like whoa What I mean he looked around the corner. We're both single And then sauce like but you pretend it to be friends with Dana you pretend it to be friends with Dana So now she's found she's found her angle Oh, please I love that we're gonna turn this in into a reason T.E.E. like Kristen instead of fucking max Yes, exactly Yep, this is the problem on brand for this show So yeah, Stasi's all this off of there because of her own traumas of Kristen sleeping with Jacks when they were broken up
Starting point is 00:28:47 By the way as I recall Yeah, still sucked because that's your friend, but Yeah, but we can't imagine that Dana and Kristen were that close. Yes, they hung out Yeah, they shared this in space of course on the show and they greet each other. They were nice But I also got the impression that like who the fuckers Dana spent so much energy in the last half of the show talking about like who cares about Max? You know, Brett's a man. Max is a boy. Oh man, watching Max is just like, oh, I was not a person there. He spends all that energy and now she's still going to get, she's still pulled the girl girl code thing with Kristen. I mean, yes,
Starting point is 00:29:21 technically it is a violation. But also it's max. It's like arguing over someone taking the last Kleenex from the box. Like, it's not a big deal. There will be other boxes of Kleenex. We all get some, you know? Yeah. It's like people who take like ten of those little butterscotch candies on their way out of the restaurant. Like, yeah. There's a whole fish bowl food of them. Don't do that. Yeah, so they're missed at her for that. But Dana, you also don't get to just like date everybody and call dibs on whoever you date. That's not fair either. And also during the Secret's Revealed thing, which we don't really cover secrets revealed here, and I only
Starting point is 00:29:58 made it through about halfway, I think of that. But she, Dana, they kind of twisted things in the season because Dana, Sheena had been with Max first, so Dana, then Dana made it seem later like, oh well, Sheena's always coming after who I'm with. Like I'm with Max, okay, Sheena's with Max, and now I'm with Brett and Sheena's with Brett, it's like no, Sheena had them first, and there was also a girl that hangs out with Sheena, that Dana was coming on to as well, like for a little action. So they kind of twisted it and made it look like
Starting point is 00:30:30 Gina was a stalker. When Dana kind of looked like a stalker by the end of that episode, you know. She is not a stalker, she's just a kind person who is happy to bring a psychic to your house. And it's standing right outside your window, watching you. Yeah, yes. So Stasi is now like, I kicked your house. And it's standing right outside your window watching you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:45 So Stasi is now like she's just pulling all her carpentures together. She's like, Kristen, I mean, you were friends with Dana, sweet, sweet Dana, who we all care about. I mean, look at her there in that beautiful blue dress. Oh, that's Dana. Whoever, whoever is Dana really a person, it's a state of being okay
Starting point is 00:31:05 what are you doing Kristen she's going off on her and he's like this is the best zoom call I've been on since COVID story you can get pissed yeah and Lala's like you guys stop giving Max your pussy he doesn't deserve that well I think some people would man I've said the same thing about Rand but whatever yeah I'm vander pump goes. Oh, thank you for the public service announcements And then just like oh my god, this is ridiculous this ridiculous and you guys. I don't know why I find that so funny And Max is just biting his lips like this girl's reacting crazy again. It's like well, why even like that match Why do you need to come on the show and out Kristen like what did she do to you? Do you not have enough enemies?
Starting point is 00:31:53 Oh, yeah, yeah And so then like that I guess and I think it's Andy who says like are you a sex addict right? Or he just brings up the topic of Max potentially being a sex addict. He's like, no, no, no, a sex addict will just see with anyone or anything. And you know, I'm the guy that he says. To get there not. Yeah, I only see with people to get charges tickets and an Apple watch.
Starting point is 00:32:15 So it's a big difference. I'm a sex addict with goals, aren't I? Okay. I know. So, Dana's like, Kristen, I just can't believe that we're like friends and that like never came up. Like it never came up and Kristen's like, I don't even know you that well. I didn't even know you that well at the time. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:32:37 And they of course show footage of Kristen and Dana Hull getting at the James May. That was called James May. I was forgot because there was like uncommon James and James May and sweet James, the lawyer and a Jamesville James. Yeah. DJ James Kennedy. Yeah. She's like, I am literally shocked.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Can you see the emotion in my face? Because there's like total emotion in my face right now. And it is shocked guys. Please, please don't let my Katie did dress distract you from the fact that I am shocked right now. So, I know she looks like something's being highlighted on a tax form. What are you even wearing?
Starting point is 00:33:17 Who told you that that was a smart idea? Are you trying not to get hit by a bus right now? Like, she looks, I mean, it clearly came from that, whatever that low cost retailer was. That's for the early in the season, she was trying to pin out who gave her that, like, she buys sharia outfits. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:35 She looks like a children's crossing in front of a bus, like what are you doing? She looks like she was auditioning for Wizard of Oz. So her makeup look great though, by the way. So James is like, you know what, Kristen, she's out here doing the same thing she's done for the past decade. She's sleeping with peak bunge,
Starting point is 00:33:53 she's caught in trouble. You know what I'm saying? And Kristen's like, James, you can suck my fucking director. I ever speak my name again. You're lucky you're on the freaking show. And not in jail, okay? So please, and he's's like no personal growth this one
Starting point is 00:34:07 No personal growth. You're honestly pathetic honestly Yeah, James the personal growth police. I Love everyone like jockeying it basically have been all crammed onto a gang plank and they're all jockeying from position to see Who's gonna stay on the gang plank and who's gonna fall into the water and so they're all place? They like you're looking beyond this show So it's Kristen who has the most tenuous connection to anything going on here. Yeah So stuff is like I have been to really shaken up by this Come on get a storyline
Starting point is 00:34:38 Truly shaken up by the disloyalty that Kristen showed to what's her name again? I think yeah, how dare you and Kristen's like you're not even my best friend like I know even my friends or whatever It's like this is set on Brownie for you to pretend that you're like a friends with Dana while hooking up with the guys She's talking to you and hooking up with you are shady. You were born shady You remain shady and you're no Remorse Should your fucking mouth shrater? Seriously, no, I was talking to peanuts. I was watching peanuts. I hate fucking shrater
Starting point is 00:35:14 No one wants to hear your piano loser Yeah, at this point Kristen now starts calling her a shrater, which it really does signal the end of their friendship that she's her friend to his Shrota. Yeah, and she's like, don't sluts shame me for hooking up with Max when I was single. I was much closer to him than I was to her at the time and tell her I became close with her. For that week I was much closer to him. I'm all because we were having sex mainly. Sossi's like, this isn't about you hucking up with another one of your friend's ex-boyfriends because you always need to do that, Kristen. So they're both trying to kind of like take this, like they're trying to make this do a greater cause.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Like, Stasi's crusading for like women, sticking by women and not betraying each other and Kristen's standing by, like, don't shame me, I'm allowed to have sex, whoever I want. And then she does just like, by the way, I just wanna say also that since Max and I were also hanging up first, it's also technically a violation of girl code with me, by the way.
Starting point is 00:36:10 By the way, remember, I'm here too. She's like, we dated much longer than him and Dana and then he goes, oh yeah, can we get some clarity? Cause like, I'm offended. And Stasi and Chris just keep going out of it. Add it. Chris like, no, your business rotor. It's like, it's my business cause we are on a show talking about a girl code. This is why girls do not trust you
Starting point is 00:36:31 Kristen, okay? I trust Kristen. Shut up, Sina. I don't know. Of course you do, Sina. Of course you do. Hey, so let's get some clarification. So, Kristen was single and Max was single. So, who exactly did she betray? It's about the fact that she acts like she's so close to Dana. And she's like talking to a guy that Dana has been talking to. Come on now, give me a break. Dana, Dana can't like publicly break up with. Give me a break, you're doing it.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Dana can't like publicly break up with someone four times and then completely call dibs. Now should Kristen have told Dana? Prop, maybe? Prop, I mean, I don't know how close they are. I don't know. Yeah, so James is like, listen, I'm gonna sell this. Okay, you're not a good friend, you never lock Dana.
Starting point is 00:37:22 You just used to, you used to like, you could have more camera time on band to pump rules. That's what you never locked Dana, you just used her, you used her likes to get a more camera time on Band of Pump Rooze. That's what you did, it was you gear, but let me tell you some of the extra camera time it's going to the pizza beacuse guess his back, that's Sir DJing done the pandemic, DJ get James Kennedy, DJing from behind blah, blah, blah, yes! And he's telling her you use every bit and you fuck whoever you want cause you're a pizza shit Chris, says the guy who literally fucked Kristen to get on this show. Like, let's not forget that James, okay?
Starting point is 00:37:49 Congratulations on being sober, but that's still pretty low for a fucking grifter. So. Yeah, exactly. So now we get a montage of all the newbies. Hey, look at all the new faces. Hey, how welcoming has this group been? And Dan is like, well, you know, Tom Tom, you know, sir was a little bit of a challenge at first.
Starting point is 00:38:06 People are a lot friendly with Tom Tom, but like when I got to serve people, like, who is this bitch and sausage's like, it's a right of passage to be bullied by the girls at serve. So, you know, and like they're all like laughing. And I'm only mentioning this because I want to, I will be coming back to this later on. I'm just putting it like the quick, I'm like, I'm like depositing this in the
Starting point is 00:38:27 in the in the bank for remember what you said that, you know. Yeah, so gross. And I love that Andy just keeps saying pasta. He's like, yeah, pasta. Remember when you didn't have pasta that time, that is crazy. So Stassy says this in honor and Andy's like, Jack's people said that you were threatened by a new blood. What's the deal? And Jack's like, I wasn't threatened. It's just like, it's hard to bring all these new people in because the rest of us already have these friendships going
Starting point is 00:38:57 and I'm like, what am I going to do with my fucking job? Like, what the fuck? That's threatened. That's threatening. Yeah, that's being threatened. Hey Charlie was Jack's threatened. That's probably threatened. That's being threatened. Yeah, that's being threatened. Hey Charlie was Jack Threddened and I love Charlie. I thought Charlie was the best. She just goes, um, he was threatened enough to go to Twitter
Starting point is 00:39:13 and do a rampage with Texas and tweets about me when I don't even have Twitter and let alone, I don't even know who this 50 year old man is. Which, I like that she's shaming him for using the wrong platform to reach her and also, I don't even mind that she said Texas because the way that she just totally dismiss him and said he was a 50-year-old man was, it does just like struck at the core of Jackson's being and it was just so perfect. Yeah, it just struck everything. Everything he's the most insecure about and scared of in life, like aging.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Like you're talking to an old rent boy here. He's only gotten anything out of his life from being like fuckable. And she's just taking it away from him. I mean, queen, I was cheering in the house. I was like, this is Charlie. Like there was something happening, like about a third of the way through this season
Starting point is 00:40:04 where suddenly Charlie just became like my absolute favorite on the cast and she is just like never upset me since then like she just Keeps coming like episode after episode just she's not on a lot, but when she is on she just She just takes everyone down so casually and it's just amazing. I love it and Jackson's like 50 I love it and Jackson's like 50 He's basically like a bully so I don't give a fuck what Jack says as far as I'm concerned He's done retired and wrapped It was so like It was like normally it's the sort of thing I would think is so obnoxious to come from like a 22 year old like fuck her You know, but I believe the children are perfect
Starting point is 00:40:46 She it was it was just like that perfect indignant like ageism that I love Yes, you say that you do that take them down Yeah, so we go and he goes um, I think I've talked to you one time so you're really insignificant to everybody. I'm like or you are just really everybody. I'm like, or you are just really obnoxious to people who are new in your life. And you're just an asshole and threatened and insecure jack. So I thought the whole cast was just gonna crack up and just like raise her up. And I was, perhaps the thing that shocked me the most about this hour, was the way that no one really backed up Charlie at all. And it actually sickened me a little bit. Yeah, she did a little bit later but you know she knows like sweet but yeah I was surprised too
Starting point is 00:41:30 because at first it looks like Chris and did start laughing but she covered her mouth and then she's like Charlie you need to calm your tits okay both of them Tia and tomorrow okay on your day another one another one yeah see me on comic relief and then Jackson's like Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, so fover and I'm like oh no and she is I'm not even talking to you Kristen like you're the girl that cries every episode okay and Jack's a year of a li yeah and he's like Jack's why were you tweeting her and bring his like Brittany now is in that place where she wants to smooth things over but she also wants to be supportive to her husband so she's like um it was about the is about the pasta thing is about the pasta thing he said it's from pasta thing, he said. It's from the show. It's from the show.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I did not make a mistake with my laugh. Yeah, and Jackson's like, it's about the carves thing. I mean, like, you eat cheesecake, but you don't eat pasta. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! I mean, it's not because that's such a lamb tweet.
Starting point is 00:42:40 And so Brittany is like, Quink call him, return, old! And Jackson's like, he's like, sweetie, I'm 40 years old, I'm 40 years old. You know, he still calls women sweetie, old people. Andy Cohen, old people, and Andy. Well, actually, Andy only does it though to be, he actually only says sweetie to people.
Starting point is 00:43:00 He hates on Twitter, it's actually really funny. He always says, like, no, sweetie. Yeah. But he has, you're right, old people, I'm sorry. I's actually really funny. Yeah. You always says like, no, sweetie. Yeah. But yeah, you're right. Old people. I'm sorry. I stole your thunder there a little bit. No, I had no thunder. That was it. Not thunder, but like I stepped on your punchline there because your point was very true.
Starting point is 00:43:14 The only people who's called blue people, sweetie, are old people. Yeah, he's just so, he just gets grosser by the fucking episode. So Charlie's Charlie goes, rap dude, I don't want to watch you on TV anymore. one wants to watch you on TV anymore so now Lala so of course Lala is now a jack's defender because Randall likes jacks and so therefore Lala has to like jacks because stop you sound real dumb you sound real dumb okay this says Lala okay says Lala and Randall pumps like Charlie
Starting point is 00:43:43 shoes and respect what are you talking about respect fuck off and you're on your own show in your own restaurant what are you talking why are you standing up? I respect those jacks deserve this is like the most unsettling thing that happened all season long yeah yeah really bugged me and he's like yeah he doesn't even know how to spell her own name your name is spelled J.A.X and it's a made up. It's not your real name. You're not even using your real name So Charlie so at this point this made me sad because I think Charlie was not expecting So much pushback and she just I don't think she for sure
Starting point is 00:44:16 She's expecting pushback from Lisa so she starts to crumble little and I felt I was so mad because I was like no Charlie we've got your back. We've got your back. Don't like don't worry We have you and she's like well None of you have shown have shown respect and then Lala of all people goes You don't just come in here and get respect. You got to earn that shit Lala We watched a solid three to four seasons of you Crying at every single reunion talking about how you don't get respect and how they treat you badly, and the reason why you say such mean things is because people are mean to you first. So I don't want to hear from you about like, that's just the way it is, you got to earn respect. When you have become the number one mean girl on this cast, and the fake is one too.
Starting point is 00:44:58 And you still don't even have respect, you bought your fucking respect, and you earned that respect, you're sitting in a house, and a dress, and a face, you didn't fucking earn. So fuck you, Vala, shut up. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So Charlie goes, I don't got to earn anything, and especially your guys is okay. I am who I am, and I don't give a fuck if you like me, end of story, which was, you know, kind of felt like it was like a Jerry Springer show moment where the audience is booing. I'd see. I did a Jerry Springer chair, and Jack the audience is booing. I'm sure I did a Jerry Springer Chair and Jackson goes, oh, yeah, I just fell asleep and she was well, it is past your bedtime. You should probably go to bed old man
Starting point is 00:45:35 I was so proud of Charlie like she you could see she was getting scared She was I think she was worried about that like she made Lisa mad and she might jeopardize her role on the show But well, I like that. She added Lisa in there when she said Lisa, no one, none of you have given respect. Like she added Lisa into that. Yeah, she did say that you're right. Standing up for jacks over some 22 year old or whatever that he's fighting. He's going for that.
Starting point is 00:45:58 It's just so gross of Vanderbilt. And Brittany goes, it is so ridiculous. Never in my life have I seen someone exotus respectful. I'm like, how about when Jack cheated on you? Or when your pastor said homophobic things? How about those? I guess Charlie is saying your boyfriend is 50 or your husband's 50 is more disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Sorry. Yeah, your husband told his boss to fuck off on camera, cheated on you, and cut off his grieving mother. Brit me, so please. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You've never seen someone more just respectful. How about get this? You married him.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Yeah. So, I got so mad that that light charlie's drove the Mott Landball with the cast. I was so furious. I was getting mad at you because it's all the people who have been abused that are now like turning it on her. Exactly. You know, Lala took a lot of ship from this cast
Starting point is 00:46:43 and she's like, oh no, that's how it is. You're supposed to get abused. Look at all that Stasi went through with Jacks and everything Jacks did to Stasi and she's sitting there standing up for Jacks. Yeah, I mean, listen, I get it that there are times in life when you do have to just like, you know, like grow up like you're like, I don't like those other lines because people like, guess what? You have to go through this. You have to like pay your dues. I get that. That is part of life for sure. But I feel like in this situation,
Starting point is 00:47:12 Jack's was obnoxious to Charlie, really out of nowhere. Charlie never, Charlie never even interacted with Jack's. And if he's, and he sent an obnoxious tweet and then she says, let's just like fuck you up. I'm gonna go low. And then Lala seems to have almost no empathy. Lala, Lala who is the queen of, it's like, fuck you, I'm gonna go low. And then Lala seems to have almost no empathy. Lala, Lala who is the queen of, it's like, you know, if you go low, I'm gonna go lower.
Starting point is 00:47:31 And she, all of a sudden, is like, you have to share some, you have to earn your respect. I just was, it was so obnoxious to me. And like you said, these are all people who've been done dirty by jacks. And so far, the only ones who seem to be waking up to it are really Tom and Ariana and a little bit Shina but really Tom and Ariana and it's like it's dark if you really think about it. Yeah it's gross. So now it's a costume
Starting point is 00:47:53 segment. Our favorite it's like the worst part of the season are these fucking terrible parties. So let's dive in let's dive in. Let's watch a montage for 15 minutes. Yeah, a costume Brett just preening. He's like, mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. The only thing that was good about this montage is that they really underscored how Jack's complaining
Starting point is 00:48:16 about having to dress up for Tom's party and then showing up at his party, like fully dressed up and extra. So, so Jack, do you only like dressing up of yearly guests of honor? And he's like, no, well extra. So, so, so, Jacks, do you only like dressing up if you're the guest of honor and he's like, no, well, I mean like, Brit had already bought the wig and everyone's pressuring me. So I was like, fine, fine, fine. I'll do the party and like, no, this was a hundred percent your idea.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Yeah, yeah, no one buys that. And he's like, so what costume are we calling your beard right now, Jacks? Is that Wolverine? Because at the beginning, I liked also the Andy complemented Tom's facial hair and Jacks, it just shows Jack sitting there like, hello, I've got a beard. I know it's like a bunch of clowns. Now Andy just mocks it. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:48:56 Oh, I'm over. I just, and if that's next to Sandeval's facial hair, okay. Yeah. So it's like, so, bo, what about you wacky outfits? And bows like, by the way, bow had the best facial hair. His, he had, he actually had like trimmed his, I thought bow looked fantastic.
Starting point is 00:49:16 So good, like I say, congrats to bow in terms of the male facial hair department. I think bow was number one, Tom number two. And obviously, Jackson,'s was a disaster. He was a Wolverine or as as Arianna said, an 1800s war general or something, you know. But Bo, so you've been dressing up for Halloween for 15 years as a girl. We'll tell him about that. He's like, well, I've been dressing up for 15 years like a girl because we have, so, you know, I like dressing up and all right, Bo, I'm not enough of that, all right. As you know, you came as a dominatrix.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Did you have to even buy that outfit? Well, it's funny because I already had everything except for the like that, that vlogging whip thing, you know, yes, you mean the whip? Yeah, so whip. So that's actually the end of all, ha ha ha ha ha. And it's the same one the Ariana brought for Long Beach Pride. And Tom's like, I was super stoked So that's actually a sand of all's AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Cheers. Hey, Lala and Rand, do you still use outfits and roleplay with you guys have sex?
Starting point is 00:50:25 Wow. And Lala's lips. Oh, sorry. Oh, no. Yeah. Well, basically, it's like a clip. It's like this really poor Hostess who can't get anything done and this big fat rich guy comes in and gives her a Range Rover and so she like Finds a way to get married to him be rich and popular Yeah, doing a great job with that roleplay, Lala. She goes, I'm so not fun since we got engaged. Did I mention that we're engaged? Yes, yes, we're engaged. I like how to open my day planner to like schedule sacks with Rand.
Starting point is 00:51:02 And Andy's like, ooh, you're becoming that girl. She's like, oh, you're becoming that girl? She's like, yeah. You don't know how much fried chicken I have to order now. So, Raquel, what's your ideal costume? Because I grew up with fairy garden parties because my mom would throw fairy garden parties for me. So I think my ideal costume would be a very garden party costume.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Well Lisa, what do you think? What do you think? When you first saw that Schwartz had lost his way of license again and she's like, well I decided that he deserved to fail even more upward and I gave him a new bar, Andy. Oh yes, I enrolled him in a scavenger hunt and haven't seen him in practically nine months in the first time I've seen him since then, so tell me what, how did you do on your checklist? Oh, mama, ba, ba, I got half of one thing, sorry. Mama, ba, ba, ba. Bop-Buh, I got half of one thing, sorry. Mama Buh-Buh, Buh-Buh, pump. So now, so one of the things that was really disturbing to watch was Tom, the way you talked to Katie
Starting point is 00:52:15 after that prank when Randall hired cops, a really great prank that I'm sure all of America really appreciates this week. So how do you want to revise your opinion on that or what? God, he's like, well, there's no excuses and I apologize, but if I were to dissect it So I go there and just shut up and I was like shut up short I'm gonna take a swing at it. You know rampant so much effort into that white privilege. I mean, it was just it was just so so much effort, Andy, you know, I mean, it was almost systematic the way it all went down really. Oh, I'm so glad
Starting point is 00:52:54 that after that prank was done. We could go back to our normal lives and not have to worry about it ever again. Oh, so then he goes and then he put all that right the timing is I mean Katie was a who would it if Coming out of this looking almost the best I know Katie and Ariana really like like Tom's defense of that prank in light of everything that happened in these past weeks And honestly, you don't even have to include the past week because For many people like you don't have to even include the context of George Floyd. Don't understand why that prank was so tone deaf.
Starting point is 00:53:32 But either way, yeah, Tom just looks so shitty first, continuing to say like, oh, but all the effort he put into it. And then he says, I don't know if he caught this, he goes, and then in that moment, I looked at Katie and I saw her as the embodiment of Cance and he doesn't finish that word and I was like he's either saying Cancer which is really not what you want to say about your wife or cancel culture and Either way, he stopped himself because you knew it would be bad
Starting point is 00:53:58 But I'm like, you know what you wanted to say that and that's bullshit too Yeah, he's an idiot and they're all like, shut up idiot in the area. I was like, you're dead, you're dead. And he's like, you know, Andy, if I talk to her like that on a regular basis, like I'd be committed to like anger management or you know, something like that. And kid, he goes, yeah, well,
Starting point is 00:54:18 I'd be the one committed because I fucking kill him. That's for sure. I'm like, oh, and everyone laughs like, oh, that emotional abuse was so hilarious. That public humiliation was so just wacky. Yeah. And also, by the way, Lala, when, when Schwartz is like, basically doing himself with a whole one of the few times where Lala was on the right side here. She, but she's on the right side. But of course, in Lala's way, she's so annoying. She's like, Schwartzsy, that is canceled. And you're never allowed to speak to her that way.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Or else I am throwing down on your ass. I'm like, well, what does that mean, Lala? You're gonna throw down on shortsy's ass. I don't got these, please. So Andy, we come back from commercial and Lisa's getting touched up. We just see Hans touching her up. And Andy's like, Lisa Vanderbomb,
Starting point is 00:55:04 I don't see any gloves over there. She's like, oh, listen, I'm doing the best I can. All right, I'm rich. Rich people don't need gloves, Andy. It's like, I mean the person touching you. Which I thought was funny too. Yeah. I guess what?
Starting point is 00:55:18 It's Pandora! Pandora makes for one season in the camera. I wish it waves at the camera. Yeah. And it's a little, my God, that's brilliant. That's brilliant. Pandora like makes for like one season came you know she like waves at the camera Yeah And oh my god, that's brilliant. That's brilliant and I think one thing that we've really seen on these zoom reunions is Andy doing that classic thing where you don't know like you're interviewing someone and you don't know what to say so instead of a Followed question or transition you just, that's awesome. That's awesome. That's brilliant. Wow. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. Awesome. So let's switch some vaginal gears. Jack's you said,
Starting point is 00:55:55 how does Ariana even know where sexuality? Because it changes every day. Let's just jump right in. Let's just jump from wide privilege into home of what we are. Jack. All right. And Jackson's like, yeah, I apologize for that. I apologize for that. That was just, you know, that was garbage. That was that was garbage, Andy. And did you notice his eyes were closed this entire time? Like he was like a singer trying to remember the words.
Starting point is 00:56:17 He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. You know, I was garbage. I didn't mean any of that, Andy. Yeah. He goes, he's like, yeah, but you've said it several times. You've said it, you've even said it on watcher happens. Live, which is a show that I host, everyone.
Starting point is 00:56:30 And we see a clip of, once again, Jack's being like, I forget what he said, but something like, she needs to figure out if she wants to date boys or girls or something like that, you know. Yeah, Brittany's like, do say that. And he's like, what, she's like swimming. What, what? And he's, so Jack's, bisexuality, does it bother me?
Starting point is 00:56:49 Does it bother you? And he goes, she bothers me. She bothers me, okay, you know? And I ran, I was like, it's really fun to know I bother him so much. I'll tell you what bothers me, inadequately perform sketch comedy. That's what bothers me.
Starting point is 00:57:04 But, jazz, what is it about being bisexual that you don't understand? He's like, I understand it, all right? Like, look, you're straight until an old man pays you to suck his dick, then you're bisexual, then you wake up straight again, and you still the carkey's office dresser on your way out and blame the gay side of yourself
Starting point is 00:57:19 for doing it. What? I totally get it, Andy. I totally get it. And Danika pipes up. I'm actually surprised we haven't heard more from Danika. She's like, why are you so stuck on her having to figure it out? And she just bothers me, okay? She always has. We've never gotten along.
Starting point is 00:57:34 And then Charlie's like, why? That's so weird. Old man losing his mind. Am I right, everyone? All right. And Jack's like, and who are you? Like for her having the nerve to speak and Because I'm Charlie Burnett. She goes I'm Charlie Burnett as a girl. You were fucking talking about on Twitter. You weirdo And then he goes she's a cast member of Jackson friends And Vanderpump cracks up she tells panties like he's a
Starting point is 00:58:11 Friend And Vanderpump cracks up she tells panties like And she know god, I love this so she was like um stop acting like you don't know who people are jacks Because you treat about them. So that's not cool. It's just respectful because everyone bleeds for the show jacks The new people too alright and Chris goes she black fall. Everyone bleeds from the show, Jacks. The new people too, all right. And Chris goes, Sino, not everyone bleeds from the show. Okay. I love Sino being over dramatic. It's like, I think I mentioned on this show, when I went and remember when I ran in Tashina
Starting point is 00:58:38 like two months ago, like right before the world shut down, should have been a sign of the times running in Tashina. And she was said, regarding the new people, all she goes, I walked so they could fly. Oh, actually, she's so dramatic. Everyone blazing in their show, and I had to walk so they could fly. I have to see my children go into the wild.
Starting point is 00:58:58 I love that. And then Lala tries to pipe in because she's got nothing going on still. So Lala gets all up in the camera with her finger and she's like, oh, no, no, that is not how this is going to go yelling it Charlie for having the nerve to say anything. And she was like, don't just miss people who are clearly here to work. Like, what the hell?
Starting point is 00:59:16 And so then they cut Lala off, which I love. Like Lala doesn't get to answer. And Andy just turns it on Lala. He's like, well, Lala, you had bisexual relationships with Ariana, and how come you didn't stand up for her when Jackson was making all those nasty comments about her at dinner? And Mala's like, you know, I'm not bisexual, but I've eaten plenty of cookie, and I don't think there's anything wrong with being bi or whatever, so like to use that in this negative way to try and bash someone, I was absolutely not okay with,
Starting point is 00:59:48 oh really? Because you sat there fucking silent and laughed, Lala. You know, Lala comes back with all these prepared answers and tries to pull out her like little like, you know, sad white girl tears or whatever. Every single time, it doesn't work, Lala. Just the queen of co-op thing. So Lala, Lala's, then we find out I missed this I
Starting point is 01:00:07 but on Instagram live Lala went off on Tom and Ariana and so Andy's asked you like you were crazy to Tom and Ariana and I gee Let's roll that clip and you see Lala. She's like screaming Or she's ranting. She's ranting and she's like y'all aren't the safe place y'all are not the safe place that projecting on to us I don't even know what that means. I don't know what that was and I don't know the context of any of that But it just made me mad because Tom and Ariana were the people with the only people who had her back You know a few seasons ago like the famous season that started with her yelling to Katie
Starting point is 01:00:43 Selling Katie that she had a, that like, that they were all winter, or the girls, they were all winter bodies. Yeah, color blob. Yeah, color blob, right? And she was basically a pariah. Back in Ariana. And she was a hero.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Do you remember the four heroes fell? I know, that remember when Ariana invited Lala to her birthday trip and then Lala didn't go because Lala was going through stuff and all that. Like, they were the only ones. They had so much patience for her. And now here she is on IG, just ranting about them about. I don't even know what the context was.
Starting point is 01:01:12 But then she uses it against them for being nice to her. I mean, she's a disgusting garbage human being. So her going off saying, you're not the safe place. I took that as her saying, like, you guys are acting like, you're, oh, you're just so above everybody else. Cause morals, well well cut the crap You know, yeah, and so her answer is she's a well anti it really made me riled up cuz like Once I became friends with everybody else. They didn't want to be friends with me anymore
Starting point is 01:01:38 It's like they only liked me when I was floundering which is such crap to anybody who's seen this show for more than five minutes. Yeah. And it's also like, yes. Ariana's like, yeah, but there were all these vacations that we weren't invited on that we're seeing on social media with like the whole cast except for us. So in times like, yeah, it was vice versa, but I was vice versa. And we see all these photos. And it was like six.
Starting point is 01:02:06 It felt like season was like, wush, wush, wush, wush, like that's the sound of all the photos going on the screen and they were from like 2018, 2018, 2018, 2019. So like for like two years, like as soon as she broke her some sort of piece with the others, she was immediately often running with them. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:28 So like, and here's the thing, if it's, it's a he said, she said situation or if she said she said, you know, Lala saying, oh, as soon as I wasn't flandering anymore, they abandoned me. And they're saying, actually more like, when soon as you weren't flandering anymore, you kind of abandoned us.
Starting point is 01:02:44 And the truth is, if you have both of them are alleging the same things, and you just look at the behavior that we see on screen, it's like so obvious. Yeah, and I'm not that bad. That's not what I'm saying. I like that Tom explains it to her very clearly. It's like, yeah, I said you were a fair weather friend
Starting point is 01:02:59 because like, what do you think of us right now? Like, if they're mad at us, then you distance yourself from us, and if they're nice to us, then you're nice to us, which is so her and that's how she is with James It's like one minute she's with James like I support you, bro Like everything you're going through like really my heart is with you and the next day She's like I'm not going to the studio with you. You fucking lose her alcoholic piece of shit Whatever the girls tell her to do she does, you know, yeah, a lot. So now Lala tries to now She's gonna like reframe and she says but here's the reason why she pulled away
Starting point is 01:03:29 She's like Ariana. I've always loved you and adored you and last year I was flattering and you saying behind my back that I needed to tough And the fuck up like I should have gotten over that last season But it carried the comment with me so I was like really hard on you because I didn't get the apology saying, I'm sorry, I wasn't more tender with you. So a few things. First of all, like if these trips were happening in 2000, well, no, I'm not even bothered with that. The point is this,
Starting point is 01:03:55 Ariana was very upfront. Like she was what she said was not shady or mean. She just like, you know, at certain point, Lala can't keep on blaming everything on her losing her dad. Well, you can't rip people down and screw them over and bully people and like just scream it like poor Raquel or whoever she was going after at the time. Like she was being really hideously mean to people and then being like, oh, well, you know, my dad died. Well, guess
Starting point is 01:04:23 what? At some point, we don't get to do it. We don't get to walk around. You don't get to use that in the real world for an excuse for every terrible thing you do to other people. It's terrible, it's horrible. And she was telling you like, if you want to keep your friends,
Starting point is 01:04:35 you need to like, stop. You need to stop at it. She's also kind of saying, it's like the same mentality of when Lala says, you don't get respect, you have to earn respect. This is not a respect issue, but basically, what Ariana is saying is, you have to pull up a little bit, you have to deal with it.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Like life is hard, you have to deal with it. And that's kind of what LaLa was saying earlier, but now all of a sudden, she's not, and I'm not begrudging the grieving process, it's horrific what LaLa went through, or anyone who goes through it you and everyone has a different process. But Ariana was not being shady and I'm not like sitting here being like an Ariana defender
Starting point is 01:05:11 because we know Ariana. It's like not that at all. It's just like it's just blatantly there. I'm screaming. You can't use that. You can't use that as an excuse to terrorize other people. That's not cool. You know, it's the same thing we say with Jackson.
Starting point is 01:05:23 It's like every time Jackson's caught with something. You know, it's like, boom, I did. It's like, yeah, that's not cool. So same thing we say with Jax, it's like every time Jax is caught with something, it's like, boom, my dad, it's like, yeah, that's terrible, but it's not like a free pass to do whatever you want to other people, you know? Yeah, exactly, and the other thing is, by the way, as I'm saying this, those episodes, because that was our member being, that's probably about three quarters through last season,
Starting point is 01:05:41 which was, must have aired in like 2019, because it was the last season started airing in like December. I remember it was December 4th, it was my birthday. I was like, I was like birthday gifts, we had a pump season premieres, it could be on my birthday, then didn't realize it would be the beginning
Starting point is 01:05:56 of the worst season ever. But those episodes aired in 2019, and those trips were in 2018. So when she's saying, well, when I found out that you were talking shit behind when you were saying that behind my back, meaning like when I taught it on the show, nothing. It's old. It's the oldest fight ever. Ariana already apologized at the reunion multiple times and she just, she said fine. And then she's using it as an excuse now because she's gotten nothing. But you know, though, and then another reason where like,
Starting point is 01:06:26 you know, another reason why I like Ariana in this situation is because Ariana doesn't say, I already apologize. How many times I have to apologize? Ariana's like, well, if I didn't apologize last time, let me apologize again now. And I was bitter about my experience. And all I was saying was that I wasn't
Starting point is 01:06:44 babyed in this situation and you shouldn't expect to get babyed either because it didn't happen to me. Exactly what you said on TV. Yes. And so Lala is like, uh-huh, with her fake tears and her little clean act. She's like, that means a lot, Ariana. That means a lot.
Starting point is 01:07:00 I'm going to think about that in France when I'm there with everybody else that I take there on the private jet. Seriously. So now we start moving towards Jackson, Sandevol, and they're their fault-swing friendship, which I honestly thought was gonna be in the third episode. I was surprised they started broaching at Andy and Brocia on this one.
Starting point is 01:07:18 So we see a whole montage of their friendship falling apart. And, and, hey, Jackson, why were you so mad at Tom's hand of all for sitting in his family instead of going to your pre-bachelored body? Yeah. And as we come into this segment, it, it, it, Jacks is still so insecure about his beard now because I have something. It's like, does it look wiry? Does it look fine? I mean, so Jacks, through this whole segment is just chewing his bottom lip like a maniac, you know, about to lose it. So all of this contained the pastor, all of that stuff.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Well, yeah, Kristen is furious watching this clip with all the pastor stuff because now they're going to go in on Tom and Ariana about the pastor thing, which is hilarious to me that they're still going to all choose the wrong side even after they've read all the social media this season and everybody's Reaction to this they're still gonna be on TV. Well, that's the video for this That's that's that's how you know you're a good reality star. Oh, he's choose the wrong side So Jack, well, you know with Tom, you know like there are all these things like prior to that where I wasn't hearing from him And then like I was thinking like if I'm not hearing from now What if what about like later when I need to be hearing from him? So I don't know, and you know what's on he doesn't respond, and he's like,
Starting point is 01:08:33 it's literally on the show that he texted you and he responded. Yeah, I was in a clip of him. Like clip of him, Tom showing him the tweet. Like, bro, I did respond and he reads the tweet and Jack's is like, I don't remember getting that reads the tweet and jacks is like I don't remember getting that so it doesn't count because I don't remember it's like but you responded back bro yeah I don't remember so it doesn't count and he's like Sanelo you were aware of the prie the preacher's post prior to the article that compiled all of the comments from the preacher so
Starting point is 01:09:02 why don't you say something before why did you wait until the party to bring it up on camera? And bring it like, that's my question to Andy. That's my question to Andy. I know, Karen and training right over there. So yeah, so then Sandivall's like, well, dude, we thought something had been done, but then we found that it wasn't. And Jack's like, well, why did you just call me?
Starting point is 01:09:23 You blinded me at Pierce birthday. Jack's like the king of just like dropping truth bombs or confrontations. You know you're on a reality show. You know that the way it goes is if you have something important to say you're supposed to like hold and bring it up on camera. That's just the way it goes.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Is it necessarily the nicest thing? Maybe not, but like don't act Jack's. Like you have been the king of reserve. And who's like, waited for delicate things that you've kept private, right? Like, no, please. So Ariana's like, well, he pulled you aside so you could talk alone. You were the one who made it a big scene.
Starting point is 01:09:59 And Schwartz is like, and there's no way. You know what? It felt like an indictment, you know? Like it was perceived like it's being smug or self-right. Shut off Schwartz, you little fucking prick. What do you ever do? All you've done is abuse your wife on this show and slack off at work.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Please get off my camera. So or off my TV. So Jackson's like, well, why can everyone else understand that? But you too. And Arianna's like, I don't give a shit what you understand, Jackson. He goes, oh, you're a miserable person And I don't was this where she know at some point she never comes into defend. I didn't actually write it down
Starting point is 01:10:33 I don't know where it is. Okay. All right. She's like you're a miserable person She goes you can sit here and single us out like you always do this here everybody gets it But you and Jackson goes oh yeah, well, I'm talking to him. I'm talking to him. He's so gross how he talks to women. And he talks over his own wife. And he any question that's asked to Brittany, he talks, oh, he's just such a fucking hypocrite. I know that doesn't need to be said. But it does need to be said because he is like, there's, he has a personality type and he exists in the real world and there are many people like him in many parts of American life, unfortunately. And so, uh, Jackson, so then Andy's like,
Starting point is 01:11:12 well, did you not think the comments would come up? Didn't you think those the pastors comments would come up? And Jackson, it's not my pastor, it's my wife's. So then he immediately abditates responsibility and just shoves it on to Brittany like it's not my fault not my fault He said I had 30 people I had 30 people he said I mean is I mean a total Like oh god So and he's like yeah, but you were the one having a fit about it And he's like look you know what I can't even believe you guys would make such a big production out of this I mean especially after what your manager is doing, Tom.
Starting point is 01:11:46 And Max just goes, like, he just pooped on the floor because it's like, okay, it's time for this segment. Yeah. Tom's like, oh, what? You're saying that I should have put him in his place. Look, you send a, you send a text and now Tom screaming and yelling and doing his, like, just losing his fucking mind. He's like, you said a text to Max Ambrett saying sorry
Starting point is 01:12:06 guys and we see the text on the screen. It says sorry guys I need to put that fucking prick in his place. That little bitch Tom is not getting away with anymore bullshit. I gotta come in, I gotta come for sand of all because he didn't say anything about your tweets and I could have lost everything. He's dead to me. Yeah, so sort of interesting and they obviously show Tom so so hit so So Jack's winning on sand of all for not speaking up about max and Brett, I guess and so then sand of all is furious He's like the only reason you you tweeted anything was not because you care about racial equality
Starting point is 01:12:39 But it's a fucking deflect from your shit And how do you know what I care. How do you know what I care about? How do you know what I care about? Yeah, he's such a piece of crap. And then Brittany goes, there you are, trying to make a fool of the bad again. Brittany, you are bad. You are a fucking bad.
Starting point is 01:12:58 OK, period. Like the fact that this is even someone else's fault for bringing it up on camera, It was all over the internet. There were articles being written about what fucking idiots you were and who you were supporting. Fuck you. And literally look at the footage. All Santa Valded was pulled Jack's aside, which was considering the situation pretty private,
Starting point is 01:13:17 given it was a reality show. And was like, dude, you have to be careful. And as Shina later says, you know, it's basically like, she was saying like, this is gonna get out to the public and it's gonna be really messy. And before he could even finish, Jack's turns it into, oh wow, look, there's Santa Valkyrie homophobic.
Starting point is 01:13:35 He's like turning into something that it's not. And then he manages to convince everyone, and because he then relates that to everyone, everyone just believes what Jack says. And then it's like, Santa Valkyrie, why are you doing this to me right now? Should I take a poll? You're such a victim. You wink, slurping simple tin. Just shut up. Wait, so Lurfin's single tin. Simple tin.
Starting point is 01:13:48 So Andy's like, what are they referring to, audience, his arm? Max and Brett's tweets, which are very racially inappropriate and insensitive. And we put them black box on Instagram to prove, how racially inclusive we are, even though you're not a single tin. So Andy's like, what are they racially inappropriate and insensitive and we put a black box on Instagram to prove how racially inclusive we are, even though you'll see nobody of any other race on this television right now or ever. Thank you. Yeah, exactly. So, and Jack's like, I hope you react the same way to Max and Brett has reacted to me and Sam was like, I did! So Lisa has a step in and say, as a five percent shelter, he wouldn't have the right to turn to his employer.
Starting point is 01:14:26 And listen, if I fired every one of you that made mistakes, probably no one would have a job. That's all, that's all. Oh my God, okay, there's so much going on with this. Okay, so first, Tom starts by going, look, I'm part owner and Jack goes, yeah, Jack goes, yeah, five percent, not half. Like you make the schedule is like you think you do which was not what Tom was saying He's saying yeah, I'm only 5% owner. Okay, so then we go to Vanderpump like these naughty boys and their racist comments
Starting point is 01:14:56 There were kids I mean mistakes. That's not it. It's not that kids shouldn't be forgiven for their mistakes And it's not that no other kid ever talks like that or anything like that. It's that you're supporting this shit when you have a much bigger platform and you should be much more aware of what is being said by people on your platform because it reflects on you, you fucking moron.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Okay, and the time we're living, and I can't believe I'm calling Vanderpump a fucking moron. But for her to just sit up there like, oh, I'm not gonna do anything, it was just a fucking moron, but for her to just sit up there like I'm not gonna do anything. It was just a little mistake. No, that's what you have. That's that is a smear now on your name forever And it's your own choice stupid. She had a bad response. I think her response to she could I mean Listen like like you said people when they're younger they do they Like you said, people when they're younger, they do, they, like teenagers will often like say incendiary thing, it's just to be like,
Starting point is 01:15:49 I'm gonna say it, just cause the thrill of saying it, not excusing that language, but any means. But like what Shishiv said was, it was absolutely despicable, it was awful. Don't stand by it at all. I do believe it was from 10 years ago when they were young and dumb and stupid and Don't like it should have been like it should have been like a really assertive like fuck this language
Starting point is 01:16:13 This is why we have this is why we have you know, you know Issues in this in this world, etc. It should have just been stronger than like listen if everyone if I fired everyone from their mistakes We'd have no jobs like that was just like it was too coy it was too dismissive without it was bad and she does say you know listen if I had and if I had any inkling that they still held those beliefs they would not still be employed but I think the point is that she didn't have any inkling that she that the Tweetsie were even like, you know, how much faith can we put in the inklings? I don't know. I think she should have been like, listen, I get that you were kids or whatever, but this shit was on your public social media and this show represents me and my values and my restaurant.
Starting point is 01:16:56 And I can't have that here. You're fired. There are other restaurants in the world for you to work in, and life will move on for you. I'm sorry, but I can't support that in any way. Bye. But instead, she's like, Oh, these kids and they're literally, oh, they just make mistakes. Really disgusting. I don't think I've ever been
Starting point is 01:17:13 not mortified with Fanderpump. Boo, wrong answer. All I know is that none of my friends, when we were teenagers, ever, ever spoke like that. And it's like it's, and even though, even though yes, I did just say teenagers will say and send to your things and like you know I'm not dismissing that at the same time. There are also allowed teenagers who don't say that stuff and
Starting point is 01:17:34 Yeah, I don't know. This is like the age this is the age-old question which I also have no answers for like what like How much do you hold someone accountable for shit that they said 10 or 15 years ago? Like, it is, I think you've got to take it by a case by case basis. I think if they were fired, I would have no problem with that. Yeah, I want them to be fired. I think it's a bullshit. So Max, Vanderpump then tries to, you know, do her protection thing, her broken bird thing. And she's like, oh, but Max, you have such a diverse family, don't you? Let's tell them about all the diversity in your family
Starting point is 01:18:06 because that will totally weaken the argument that you're racist. And so he's like, yeah, you know, I have a grandfather who pretty much raised me, he's African-American, and my mom is half black. I'm like, we live in a culture where it's frowned upon to talk like that now because it's like now, so we can't talk like that anymore. I'm like, what?
Starting point is 01:18:23 I feel like that was his of his way of saying guys. I'm partially black. I kind of feel like that was his way of saying. I'm saying like I'm not going to. Yeah. Yeah. What she totally did. Like it's about your diverse family.
Starting point is 01:18:35 It was definitely his way of saying, look, I'm sorry for what I said, but also I am part of the culture a little bit. So I, you know, like you can't come down on me as hard. I think that's sort of what he was trying to say. It was, I think a smidge and better than Brett. Brett was terrible. Brett was like, you know, it's not okay. It wasn't okay then.
Starting point is 01:18:53 It's not okay now. And it's just like, it was like, we're literally making jokes with each other. And we're just like, don't fucking things to do. But we're just like making jokes. And it wasn't okay. Yeah, it's like, we're sitting in the room together, he says.
Starting point is 01:19:04 It's like, you're with your friends. And you're just like sitting in the room together, he said. It's like you're with your friends, and you're just sitting in the room together, writing stuff, but you're writing stuff down. I'm like, oh, okay, so it's much better if you're just sitting around alone in your room, like just shut up into there. I even gave you a microphone. What do you even do?
Starting point is 01:19:16 Yeah, that was, I thought like a real, I think sometimes just when you do consider like what a person said many years ago, and how are they? Do you hold them accountable for what they said many years ago? I think sometimes you have to look at the apology that they give. I think if the apology shows real growth or shows that they have really changed their mindset or whatever, I think that's helpful in forming that decision.
Starting point is 01:19:44 I think Brett's apology was piss poor. I hated it. It was terrible. And look, I can't be a total hypocrite. Everyone knows my mouth is trash. My mouth is garbage. It's a vial. It's disgusting. I mean, we've been doing this almost nine years,
Starting point is 01:19:56 eight and a half years. Imagine the shit. And some of you remember, I'm sure. I've had plenty of horrible things come out of my mouth. I've had to like listen, like to what people are saying, like why they're offended. And like I was saying the seaworth for the first three years of the show or four years. So much that shaming. Yeah. Yeah. We were horrible. And I'm not saying that people don't have the right to be forgiven. I have been, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:22 and I've been educated, but you have to like open up your fucking ears and listen to people and not just keep making excuses and just like being glib, you know, it's like you have to like grow with it. And I hate even being here lecturing. I just want to say like I get that me with a mouth that I have going off on someone like this. It's just the whole way this was presented was disturbing to me. I didn't like this little tiny like oh we're gonna go back right back to Tom and Jack's right after we get this little racist thing out of the way. It's like this glib little oh it was so worth it made it a mistake. It just really rubbed me. It was very it was very it was almost like a footnote and I actually felt like I wanted a little bit more grilling from Andy.
Starting point is 01:21:05 I kind of, I wanted to, I don't know, like, I felt like he set them up for some softball, prepared remarks. And like you said, like, when I think back to what we were saying on this show, in 2012, you know, we have grown a lot. We become more aware of people's perspectives. And that's part of also because a lot of things have happened in society that have fortunately allowed us to to open our eyes. And I think back, I get scared thing back to what I wrote on my blog. Sometimes I'll look on B-side blog and I'll look at a post and I'll be like, I cannot believe I wrote that like that. It's like it's horrifying, right? But like part of life is that you need to sometimes to get checked so that you can learn.
Starting point is 01:21:45 So that's why I'm, that's why sometimes I'm like mixed on, like, do we just cancel someone because they said some shit? Or do we give them a hard time? And then they grow when they learn because you have to be able to learn, right? And so, yeah, my thing beyond the counseling of like, do it, am I personally going to cancel somebody?
Starting point is 01:22:01 Is like, this is what's representing your show. And then the time we live, especially when you had cast members going after faith, the only black cast member trying to get her arrested, you know, Stasi and Kristen, you know, you had all that shit, you had a lot of the stuff that Stasi has said in the past, you have all the shit that's going on in the real world,
Starting point is 01:22:18 you have no diversity on your cast. And so it just seems like this warrants a bigger response than- And also it's like we're going to bat for for Max and Brett I mean like exactly and I'm not gonna do that. So, you know, that's yeah It's like is it over is it really worth it? Is it really worth it for Max and Brett? Yeah, fuck those guys, you know look do better. So then yes Let's go back to Jackson Tom and Jackson's just looking psycho now, you know, because he's like been ready to yell at somebody And he's like been put on hold and so Andy's like so you guys said that they everyone thought that they were
Starting point is 01:22:52 Clueless about the pastor Stasi you said that they just were too dumb to understand that it was gonna be a problem and Stasi's like yeah, I mean the problem I had with Tom was like he was questioning their motives and that doesn't seem like something a best friend would do And I think that Jackson Brittany weren't paying attention. Yeah, I do think that but they have a habit of sticking their head in the sand Yeah, and so then she knows like well, I think that's hand of all was looking out for Jackson because he's an amazing friend And like he's like one of the most amazing friends I've ever had in my entire life. Oh my god, Sheena. Like I've heard you say that like 40 times a 40 different. I love that Stasi is so infuriated that she knows a nice person.
Starting point is 01:23:34 I know. Okay. That's that she knows just like feels like. So Wid just know white with her apple like fuck her. Just staring in a mirror like fuck her and fuck the birds that landed on his shoulder too. I know. So then Brittany is like, he's like, okay well you know what, guess what, what happened, we already got rid of the past there and then Jack's like, yeah, yeah, can I talk for
Starting point is 01:23:56 one second for one fucking second, okay? This is one of the hardest times I've had to go through my time fucking live is so hard Like hey, remember when Jack cheated on you remember that was that hard to okay, great And so Jackson's like yeah because of them they made it hard on you because of them and she's like no No, not because they but because of what the pastor said to you. I was like, okay. Thank you Brittany. Thank you for acknowledging that Let me talk god damn it So it's like, but she goes, shot! Oh! And he's like, all right, all right, fine.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Yeah. So then she starts her monologue on her big fake crocodile tears. And by the way, and Jack also says that, like, listen, we even texted you, Andy, to say, hey, we're in a situation, which to me, I was like, well, that's kind of fucked up too. You're basically in a situation where you're being accused of homophobia.
Starting point is 01:24:45 So you essentially, I'm assuming, text it Andy and we're like, hey, can you please go to bat for us and tell people we're not homophobic. I think that's what that text was about. He was going to his gay friend to be like, tell the gays to stop being mean. Yeah. So bring me those on this whole load of lies and bullshit.
Starting point is 01:25:02 I cannot even believe this girl still has the nerve to be like this So she's like listen, I did not see anything more than one 20 80 cuz I tasted the pastor and I said if you're homophobic I can't have you as my pastor and he said I don't feel that net way no more I just don't like we need sorting any pies. That's already doesn't like we need sorting any pies Okay, it's like who does right and I was saying Andy Okay, so if you had already taken care of this by the time Tom came to talk to you
Starting point is 01:25:35 That means that the article was already out that compiled the list of all the shit that this guy had said And so you just texted him and say you're not homophobic Yeah, and he said those are not my beliefs at all and then she said she never read any more of his texts until this all came out. So basically you're saying yes what Stasi said was correct because Stasi was like I think just the thing is they put their head in the sand and she's like no let me tell you what really happened. He said something and then I did it look at his Twitter feed until I found out he said something again
Starting point is 01:26:05 Like so you put your head in the sand Yeah, and she's like and I said okay, but then as soon as Lisa called me she will tell you I was crying my eyes That well, yes because by then people had found out that all this stuff and we're holding you accountable for it Brittany It's like people were just making this shit up You're totally fine to be married by someone who says that vile kind of shit. When you're on a show and you're going to have it filmed for a show, watched by people who are in that community and support that community and fill your pockets with that community.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Idiot. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. I mean, like, I mean, how irresponsible is it that if you have someone who's been saying Saying some bunk ass shit and then they you call them on it and then they say no No, I don't I don't mean like that and then you just don't like you been eye on them to double check like it's just it's so irresponsible It's just hilarious. It's like Britain. He's just too stupid guys Vanderpump's like but as soon as I saw on social media what people was saying, I can tell you Britney was blindsided.
Starting point is 01:27:08 She had no idea of this pasta even after an article came out about it. Like if Tom hadn't said something, she would have still had the fucking pasta as her pasta after all of that stuff was compiled. I mean, yeah. So then Schwartz goes, you know what, I think over the years, familiarity has bred contempt with these two. Convenient narrative, right, Baba?
Starting point is 01:27:31 Right? So now he's trying, now he's talking, now he's back to, I don't even know. I don't even know. So they've been too close to each other, I guess, because now he's putting it back to Jackson. It's like, let's just generalize it. It's not about Jackson, Brittney,
Starting point is 01:27:43 you know, having a homophobic pastor Jackson Tom of just just really kind of sick of seeing each other around And be upwards So then Santa was like I have been a much better friend to that motherfucker has ever been to me That my that motherfucker has ever had as an entire life and I've never had anyone do more fucked up things to me in my entire Life for in the phone and jack Never had anyone do more phone stuff things to me in my entire life For interphone than jacks man Yeah, which point his head just explodes and I was like, okay, well, that's a great reunion guys Yeah, and jacks is like yeah, but you want it so bad to come to my wedding
Starting point is 01:28:13 It's like you're begging me please please can I come to your wedding? And he's like on the guidelines had to follow to even go to your fucking wedding He's like I didn't even want you there, bro. And that's my biggest regret I got bullied into it by the girls. And the girls all like cover their face. Which is funny because... It's funny in retrospect because I forgot about that and like how the girls were so resistant to having Chris and Katie's stupid biggest thing and how they totally they did they were like jacks. You should have them there.
Starting point is 01:28:43 So I'm like Bully come on come on come the fuck on I asked you point blank if you wanted me there and you said well I expected you to fly there and surprise me. I mean you expected your mom to hit you up after all the shit you said about her And then Brittany and Jacks are both like oh They're like you mentioned the mother Oh Not go there what jacks was been going there the entire season and he wasn't saying anything about the mom is saying that like You talked all this about your mom and then you still expected her to show up. So what is that supposed to? That's bullshit. Those two were such hypocrites. And that was the best thing about this. Like it was a dark this was it was a fun reunion, but then it was like hard at the same time. But God, this was fun. Just watching Jackson Brittany lose it. And I hope Charlie's
Starting point is 01:29:36 words really go to the top and they're just canceled. Like I think she made them look like a joke. Because the only people that are going to be standing up for them are the other cast members. Everyone else thinks they're fucking twit at this point. Like who else would stand up? Get rid of them please. If they get rid of Charlie and not anybody else, I'm gonna be.
Starting point is 01:29:54 So that says everything about American society. And so then Lala's like, sorry, just as the truth. So then Lala goes, sand of all, no, no, no. We are Lala goes, sand of all? No, no, no, we are not mentioning parents. We are not mentioning parents. You're doing that thing where she lectures someone.
Starting point is 01:30:11 I'll tell you what we're not doing. Mentioning other people's parents. Lala, take a seat on this one. Take a seat, okay. You're standing up for the wrong person here. Yeah, as always. And Danica's like, oh my God, it's always a competition with jacks and they have ever was screaming at each other now and Andy just goes mute mute mute You can see everyone screens start going to mute
Starting point is 01:30:33 The next week it continues. We're gonna watch Tom Schwartz and karaoke in his living room Oh Oh, man, I got really fired up watching that reunion. I couldn't believe it, but it was really good actually. Yeah, that's awesome. I was into it. Yeah, it was a good one. Well everybody, thank you so much for being here. Thanks for the on-demand people for that support. If you want to watch this, of course just go be a Patreon on-demand member. And we sure love you guys, and we will talk to you tomorrow with some real housewives of Beverly Hills.
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