Watch What Crappens - RHOA: On Bowling Pins and Needles

Episode Date: February 25, 2020

On The Real Housewives of Atlanta, Kenya and Marc put together a "couples night" at the bowling alley, which is a perfect arena for us to watch their marriage fall apart. We're split on this...: is Kenya more (pun!) to blame? Or is Marc the real jerk here? Tweet us your thoughts @whatcrappens See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Watch What Crapins Add Free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. Get ready for a double load of Queen of Hearts. It's me, Jujubee, and I return to guide sexy singles through some ronchy blind dates. Cameras off. Voice only. Launching during pride. Queen of Hearts takes Miami by storm, with Daeders' Cuppe from Tampa Bayes, Just Chas, and Brittany Brave to name a few. Follow Queen of Hearts on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to WaterCrapins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about I'm Ben Mandelker of the real house where's a kitchen island go check that out on YouTube and joining me as a hilarious and wonderful man His name is Ronnie Karen and he's from the Rose Prick's bachelor's podcast. What's up, Ronnie?
Starting point is 00:01:16 Well, hey, I'm happy. Are you doing today? Just great recover from our trip Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm on days. We had a very rigorous, rigorous past few days. We were in Kansas and Omaha and we had to wake up at like 4.45 in the morning and go to the Omaha airfield very early in the morning. So we're we're I'm hoping I'm fully recovered, but I guess we'll find out as we recap, huh? Yeah, I'm recovered. I mean, what are you gonna do? Yeah, this is the best way to have a Monday first?
Starting point is 00:01:57 Yeah, and the good news is we are really not traveling for a while We have a show on March 19th in Salt Lake City, Utah, which will be a super fun. I mean, home of the new Bravo franchise. So come go get tickets for that. That's March 19th, Salt Lake City at the Metro Music Hall. And then the beginning of April, we have Orlando and Charleston. Charleston, we're recapping Real Housewives of New York. So the premiere, which will be amazing. And Orlando is Orlando.
Starting point is 00:02:21 So it's going to be really, really fun. But for now, we are gonna be chilling out here at the home base doing what we do best, just recapping. And we're gonna be, by the way, for tickets, go to watchrocrapins.com. And yeah, we're just gonna get right back into it today with some real housewives of Atlanta. What say you, Ronnie, you ready to do this?
Starting point is 00:02:40 At Lanter, I sure am. Good. Well, let's do it. Yeah, let's do it. So last time we saw Real House as of Atlanta last week, Eva was going into labor. The baby was gonna be born that night according to Cynthia and you know, all hell was breaking loose. And now this episode opens up with Eva hanging around at home eating nice chips. I was like, what happened? What happened to that baby? Yeah, I'm not sure. So
Starting point is 00:03:08 I guess that was a false alarm. And so now I don't know. Apparently if you have a false alarm, you're only allowed to eat ice after. I'm sure it's something I just don't understand, you know, but that's good. That's a very cold baby. It's like, geez, keep the baby in, you know, eat some ice. I anticipated that we would probably look like idiots if we started surmising why she was eating ice. So I actually, when I was watching, I told Dom, I was like, hey, can you look up why she's eating ice? Is that a thing for pregnant ladies do?
Starting point is 00:03:39 And he looked it up. And eating ice keeps you hydrated, but also because it's not as much fluid, it keeps the nausea away and stuff like that, so that was what that was all about. Oh, well that's interesting. Yeah. How about some ice cream?
Starting point is 00:03:55 Okay, it's very uncomfortable watching people eat ice because as a child with a weight problem, guess what, my mom wanted to serve me for breakfast. Ice. Ice. Ooh, I hate eating ice I find that like ice is a really annoying thing to bite. It doesn't have a nice Ice doesn't have a nice texture when you bite into it
Starting point is 00:04:14 You know when you bite into something that's crispy. It's it can be really fun I think like crinkles and like flaky and like both ice is just like fine. I'll break Yeah, and it's also something that when you're growing up They say like if you chew ice, it means you're sexually frustrated, which was always hilarious to hear in the fifth grade, like, aren't we all? And it's also a place where Joe, you know, Jojud ice might be stuck in a shoe. So, you know, it turns out ice just really isn't that fun. So thanks for tuning in. This was our terrible review of ice.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Be sure to like and subscribe. Ice gets two stars out of five. Watch what happens. We did you mean to make this ice so annoying to eat? Ice is stupid. Thanks for listening everybody. No one hates ice more than gal. But then again, she barely even knows what it is. Bless her heart. Now, all that aside, you know, I'm really glad he was okay because she seems like a really nice girl and stuff, but guess what? Don't want to watch you on your couch calling your kids.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I don't care, Eva. How about next week's show up to work out pregnant, okay? I mean next year. Next week. Next week's still be pregnant because you need to keep that baby inside of you. But next year, I mean next week. Next week still be pregnant because you need to keep that baby inside of you. But next season. Yeah, she basically a Dr. Jackie put her on modified bedrest so that way she doesn't have another pre-term labor or basically so that way she doesn't give birth too early. So she's just sitting on the bed eating ice and I in my mind I was like okay, so this
Starting point is 00:05:41 is basically to explain why we won't be seeing Eva the rest of the episode. Cut to like, hey, we're going skydiving. She's like, I'll do it! I'll do it! This is the worst, worst bed rest I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, I know. But Eva does show up to work. Meanie. She does. Okay, that's called someone who comes to work. Meanie. Yep. Yep. So then we go over to Cynthia who has got her elbows down on the kitchen island her best friend and she's reading the Mike's book proposal for open Mike because God forbid we now go through an episode without this stupid book being promoted by Cynthia Yeah, hey, just started dating a guy seems really into me got a book deal and
Starting point is 00:06:22 Now we're getting married. This all sounds sounds great synthia doesn't sound shady at all have fun with that open by a synopsis uh... there was some exploits and stupid decisions i made as a kid that could have led to serious trouble including prison and uh... he comes in he's like what's up babe watch the car anything else and she's like what you like to talk about how you never gonna cheat on me that would be great.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Yeah, I actually paused and I read through the as much of it as I could and pretty much all the synopsis was like, yeah, so it's a story of how I cheated on women and then cheated on more women and not a friend who who died accidentally and then I cheated on more women and then my stepfather who raised me was also a hitman and spent the last nine years of his life in prison for hiring someone to kill his wife. So there was that. And then I cheated on someone some more.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I'm like, great, great, great memoir. Great. Into it. Into it. Just call it red flag, red flag the book. Red flag, yeah. It's catchier than open mic. Okay, open mic is just an instant turn off.
Starting point is 00:07:27 I'm sorry. Yeah, no one likes an open mic. So she's like, well, you know, I'm reading your book and people are gonna probably focus on this latest bar's girl like deceiving. He's like, well, I did what I did, okay? It's not like I'm glamorizing it. I'm like, mm, I think you kind of are glamorizing
Starting point is 00:07:45 it. I think by writing a book, I think this book should be called, I may be old now, but I've gotten a lot of ass in my life, okay? So thanks. I think, you know, how you, you know, what's a good way to glamorize something to write a book and earn money off of it? That's what, that's, that's called glamorizing your affairs., I mean you might as well just like dress your affairs up in a glittery dress, okay? Because it is pretty glamorous at this point Thank you. I'm glad we agree on that cuz I was like yeah, you're like literally glamorizing it You're writing a book. Yeah, you're ready about your hot little You're hot hot glue-gending tools onto that fucking denim coat and you're wearing you have you have bedazzled you bedazzled I had an affair on the back of your
Starting point is 00:08:28 denim you know you're going out to country line dancing and she's like well I know you know I know of people who had everything and they still cheated and he's like yep I did that yeah I did it and I did it hotly thank you she's like yes I need you I need to know that you're gonna start this Faithful journey with me. I need to know you're ready and he goes well listen if I mess this up then that is entirely on me It's what does that mean? No, it's not entirely on you. Okay, that's a problem that you're even saying that it's entirely on you It's not entirely on you. There's somebody else in here in this relationship Okay, and then I'll get proceeds from your fucking book.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Yeah, but also like that should not give anyone any confidence. How do I know that you're ready to go on this faithful journey with me? How about an answer like, I've, you know, I've been all this stuff that happened 15 years ago. I've gotten older and wiser. I realize that this is, you know, that's in maturity speaking. I've done a lot of work on myself. I've gone to counseling. I've learned what real commitment is. But don't tell me, well, if I mess up, that's on me. Like, that does not give me any assurances that it won't happen. That just means that you will somehow take credit for it. And you're acting like that's a big accomplishment. But you just wrote a whole book about taking credit
Starting point is 00:09:46 for your affairs. So why is this supposed to make me feel any better? Am I going to be another chapter in your history book to quote Paul Abdul? Yeah, and so she doesn't buy it either. So there's a really long pause and the T-Kettle start steaming, which is basically candy laughing on the stove.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And Mike is like, the T-Kettle calling to be rescued out of this awful house. Yeah. And Mike's like, Oh, I thought, that was my temperature going up. I thought, I thought I was about to steam. And I'm like, you're not really in any place, sir. So why don't you just sit there and take your lips.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I don't care if it's some random lady coming up to you on the street every day for the rest of your life, calling you a no-down dirty pig, okay? You deserve it. So just sit there and take it. And Cynthia tells us, I'm not judging Mike. I might be judging some of his actions and some of his choices, but if Mike cheats on me,
Starting point is 00:10:32 I would be devastated, honestly. Like, well, first, prepare to get devastated. Second of all, you're allowed to judge him. He cheated. You can judge someone who cheated. That's okay. He literally wrote a book about it. That's going to be critiqued by people whose job it is to do that.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Like he has invited judgment. It's okay. And you will be devastated. And also that is what judging people is. It's judging their action. It's called the court system. Okay. I know.
Starting point is 00:10:57 How do you say you're not judging him but you're judging his action? I guess there's a difference. I guess there is a difference. I guess there is a difference. Like, you can still feel like someone is good, but did something bad as opposed to saying they're bad because they did those things. There is a little bit of a difference,
Starting point is 00:11:12 but I'm just saying, like, it's okay to judge someone if they've cheated. I think it's really okay. Well, I think it's going to be fun to judge Cynthia once the sky cheats on her because she's an idiot. Okay, your an idiot. Tried to warn you, but I don't know you in real life. So unfortunately, I'm just warning a really big TV like on on sale. Okay, I'm warning.
Starting point is 00:11:31 There was just a honk. There was just a honk outside. I don't know if you heard it, but if that has ever been a sign that Cynthia has to stop. I mean, literally someone on the street just honk their horn like, stop Cynthia. I'm trying to get through. I'm gonna honk my horn and try to get onto this podcast to tell you Cynthia stop what you're doing you've in danger girl and Then he does another red flaggy thing which people do where he says listen, I'm just saying you're not perfect and I'm not perfect Yeah, I'm not perfect. Oh good. Yeah, I don't like that. You know, you're right. You are not perfect like that. You know, you're right. You are not perfect. You're so, yeah, because she's saying that she's like, you know, I don't cheat. That's just something I don't do. I don't cheat. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:12:08 well, it doesn't mean you won't cheat. And she's like, uh, don't do that. I don't do that. And he's like, well, you're not perfect. I don't like that because it's like a deflection away from him. If she does, if she has never cheated and she doesn't cheat and she's, and she's 52 and she has a track record of not cheating, I think that's okay. Well, anyone who says in general, I'm not perfect is gonna cheat on you. Period. That's like a person who doesn't take responsibility.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Well, I'm not perfect. Oh, okay. Well, you know what? You know where you can go back that that's acceptable? Like Bible study or something. Or like a confessional where you're confessing to things. But he also brings up.
Starting point is 00:12:43 He's like, well, that's not fair because you have faults, but I can't bring those to your attention because you didn't write a book about him. And now I have a book. So you have all these faults that you can bring to my attention. Yeah, it's why you don't confess. Okay. So why you wait for your lawyer to show up. What do you want from me? You're the idiot who confessed. Also, she's been on reality TV for like eight years. Okay. So she didn't write a book. Yeah, but she's like been on display on display for eight years. So yeah, you can bring those up and you just haven't been able to find anything beyond the fact that she loves her kitchen island. And
Starting point is 00:13:15 she didn't have the common sense to stay with Leon, the first man in her life that we all love so dearly. Yeah. So then and she's to and she went to Peter. That's the big, that's the big flaw. And she was friends with Meanie for all those years. Yeah. So then she's like, then, so then Cynthia starts doing this whole thing. This is Cynthia's new thing. She's like, the problem is, we don't know how to argue. We just don't know how to argue.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Like, okay. So she's like, this is how you argue. And she storms out, you know, and then she comes back and she goes, I'm a stare. That's what I do. I'm like, yeah, we know. We saw how you treated Nini last week. You came immediately. Yeah. I will chase you to a parking lot. Dang it. Yeah. Hold your face gently. So they're going to go see a counselor or something. And I just have to point out. You know, I know we've been harping on Chihil a lot, but he has a really mean mad face when he's mad. I don't like him.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Okay, so Candy is now sitting there eating a biscuit, just happily as can be. Now this is all you need, machine. I just need Candy to sit there and eat a biscuit, okay? I'll check text. Yeah, that's, I'm happy with that. Because she was just enjoying that biscuit. Her eyes were getting big and then small and then big.
Starting point is 00:14:24 It's great. So she is having a kickball event and everybody's texting whether they can come. Tanya's out of town, Needy, Needy's like, sorry, I don't have stuff in minutes to spare, which is kind of funny. Well, we find out why she's saying that. And then Marlowe's like,
Starting point is 00:14:40 Oh girl, I just saw this. Oh, Tanya's like, gee, I wish I were town So Marlow calls and she's like oh candy ams Yeah, can't you's like please don't be three hours late Marlow She's like I'll be no more than 30 minutes late I'll bring my Bible. So then Kenya is with her closet, friend Che. Oh, it's her cousin.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Oh, her closet cousin, Che. In the closet. Yes. Oh, I thought you were saying Che was closeted. I was like, wow. Yeah, they just do a lot for Che. Kenya just likes doing a lot of scenes in her closet. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Second only to Heavenly from married to medicine. He did every single scene this year at home in her closet. That's true So yeah, I can you us with Shay and they they face time with candy Because and they start talking about Kickball because there's two events happening this episode. There's kickball and then there's also three events really. There's kickball, there's a couple's night and then there's also this like fundraiser thing, charity thing that will be happening. So it's sometimes hard to keep track of which event we're supposed to be caring about at any given moment. But I think right now they're talking about kickball. They're talking about kickball because Kenya is going to have every event in every
Starting point is 00:16:07 episode so she cannot invite Neenie to things. Yeah. Can you know how to be a controlling housewife? Okay. She's learned. Yeah. So first is kickball and Candie's like, well, Neenie didn't want to come because she heard it was your event because they're throwing it together.
Starting point is 00:16:20 And Candie's like, well, I said it was my event, but she said, you know, you came in for hers for seven minutes and left. So she's not gonna come. Sorry, I was taking a coffee sip and Candy is like, well, she is lucky. I grace that place with my presence. I don't like that girl. She's a horrible person. And Candy's like, please cover up your nipples because there's big as a baby fast. So yeah, everything. So then we go over to Neenie. Neenie's at home trying to like candles. She's worrying like a Kim Zolciak wig.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Uh, there's like Kim Zolciak meets, I don't know, like Legolas or, I don't know what it was, but I was just like, I had, it was too close to Kim's olsiaq for me to feel comfortable with it. And Nini is that kind of person. He's yelling at her husband for everything, even lighters that won't turn on, you know?
Starting point is 00:17:13 So he has to come in and help her with the lighter. And she's like, you know, I was just so stressed about that leopard party. I mean, so stressed. So what were you stressed about? You had it some Mexican food restaurant. You showed up four hours late. you didn't have to do shit. Okay, you didn't even put on the clothes you were supposed to put on. And you were the one who made the rule.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Yeah, there was literally nothing stressful about that. Literally nothing. And the fact that you were still stressed out a day later and having trouble lighting candles as a result really says more about you than it does the leopard party. Yeah, and she was like, that was kind of, you know, it was, it was just weird. I didn't like it. You know, Eva had contractions during it, and then everybody's telling me, Porsche's not going to come, but then she did come. And at least she stayed, you know, because Ken, you came for seven
Starting point is 00:17:57 minutes. You know, I've extended multiple olive branches to Kenya. Who stays for seven minutes? Seven minutes you weren't there because you were four hours late. Yeah, like listen, like little as usual, everything Nini says is total bullshit because guess what? If you wanted to extend an olive branch, you would be there to receive her when she does show up. So she won't say for more than seven minutes because what a way to make to make your olive branch, your quote unquote olive ranch not seems sincere Then to invite someone and then just not even be there and show that you really don't give a like you don't care about wasting their time You know, yeah, like what what an idiot. Neenie's an idiot. Yeah, so Greg's like well
Starting point is 00:18:36 I've been talking to Mark and she's like oh geez He's like, well, we're gonna do a men's event giving giving back to neighborhoods. And she's like, oh, geez, well, his partner for life is an asshole, whatever she said. And she's like, well, so she tells us the this week's drama, which is that Mark invites Greg to this charity event. And then Kenya posted about the charity event on social media, and she tagged everyone in including Greg,
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Starting point is 00:20:03 much. Why not? They're also hot. My God. Every time I see those hot. But it's just it's like, you know what it is? I think I have like long standing resentment of me reaching out to gay friends and be like, you want to hang out and like, sorry, I have kickball. It's like always kickball, which would then tell me maybe I should join kickball, but instead I resent it. And I don't want to have anything to do with it. Yeah, I mean, I don't just for obvious reasons, but yeah, it seems like everybody placed that West Hollywood kickball. Is that either kickball or dodgeball and then they get obsessed with it and then they go out and they drink and then it's like photos. Just like non-stop kickball kickball. We won kickball. Cash, I came to kickball. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Kickball. Those kickball queens love their kickball. You know, I mean, listen, it worksball queens love their kickball, you know? I mean, listen, it works out for me because Sunday afternoon, sorry, good days in the bar because everyone's in like, really, really tiny little short shorts. Oh, I thought it was Thursday. It was probably, it's, it feels like it's every night of the week.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Every night of the week, everyone's always busy. It's like, hey, you want to hang out on Monday? Sorry, kickball, Tuesday, kickball, Wednesday, dodgeball, Thursday, RuPaul, Friday, kickball. Like, when is it free? I just a resentful. Yeah, you mean to get me a lovely gay group. I just don't like me.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I just have to, I just have to come to understand that. We're just like outsiders to gay groups. Let me just have to accept it. We are our own gay group, Ronnie That's the two of us. Yeah, it we're called extra gay. We're extra extra gay group, okay? You're not gay enough to be an art group always outsiders. That's that's the story of our lives Raising kids can be one of the greatest rewards of a parent's life. But come on, someday, parenting is unbearable.
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Starting point is 00:24:19 Racy with Miss Stacey. Shannon out of a cannon Anthony incredible edible Matthew sisters mean a kuchi kuchi kuchi And She ain't no shrinking violet koo char. We love you guys So everybody starts showing up to play kickball and I don't know here's what I wrote Why do we have to talk about this this what I wrote? I know go ahead have fun. I'll say I'll support you from the side. I'll be your kickball cheerleader if you will. Well, there was like nothing to talk about.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I mean, I wrote some notes. I gave notes to be like, like, should write notes because stuff was happening, but nothing really happened. I mean, Mal showed up in a huge wig, never seen her in such a big wig. Porsche was wearing some sort of yellow asymmetric tartan bodysuit, which was sort of yellow asymmetric tartan body suit, which was sort of noteworthy. Eva showed up. I was like, you are supposed to be on bedrest
Starting point is 00:25:10 young lady, but she just sat down on the side, you know, and it was just sort of like, it was kickball. Yeah, this was one of the running episodes that reminds me how foolish that I am because I'm always like, well, listen, you know, how so I don't have to fight every single time for it to be fun. It's still really fun, but they don't fight. And I'm so bored, although it was fun to watch. It's just I need to talk about it. There's nothing to say, although I there's something really fun about watching Candy Burr, she's after a big red ball because she runs in this sort of way,
Starting point is 00:25:40 where she's like got like a like a modified terminator run, where you know how like that one Terminator, you know like Robert Patrick does that like very stiff run with his hands, like his hands go up and down, like up and down, up and down, up and down. Candy does that, but her hands don't go up, they just go side, she just she flares her fingers out and then does like Terminator run, but her hands stay down by her knees. It's hard to describe, but it's like really endearing. So Candy has decided that she's gonna, she's not only taken over this whole episode, she's also gonna take over the group trip this year. So she's, she's doing this the smart way because she's
Starting point is 00:26:15 planning things with Kandy, and they've decided to take everyone to Greece. And that's gonna be, you know, embarrassing for us as Americans to watch, I'm sure, because that's how housewives trips are. So I'd just like to say really far in advance, sorry, Greece. Yeah, I just hope everyone has worn Zeus and Hira about what's about to come down, because it's gonna be rough. So then we go over to the beginning of the episode where everybody's like, Riley is doing some kind of YouTube video for Child Obesity Month. Yeah, and Candy's like,
Starting point is 00:26:56 say no, Riley, you need to get more, round up, more energy, more energy, Riley. And Riley's like, I'll do it more energy, more energy, round E. And Rally is like, okay, take two. Obesity, am I right? More by the belly. Take three. Obesity. Steven, flow, Rally. Open your mouth.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Here to talk about obesity is someone who's been blessed to be skinny. Kayla, hi, I'm Kayla. I want to introduce my role model, Sinti's sister, Mal, or I'm Mal. This is the lowest obesity video. This is getting slower and slower. Until we just end up with Robin from Potomac sleeping on a couch. Then Eva is doing a pregnancy photo shoot and then Cynthia is in front of us in front of a wall of plastic vines which means we're at the Hobby Lobby wine cellar. That's right. She's face timing Mike. Uh, she felt kind
Starting point is 00:28:07 of bad after their whole argument because she doesn't like to argue, but if they are going to argue, you know what she would want, Ronnie? She would like to know how to do it, you know? And he's like, Jesus, the right thing is how? Yeah. He's like, Jesus, you hear Michelle Obama say that. Now you think you're Michelle Obama just stop. And she's like, well, she did say that. And think your Michelle Obama just stop and she's like well she did say that and he's like well She's not in our relationship Give Michelle Obama out of our fucking relationship, all right She's like see here's the thing you're arguing with me about Michelle Obama But I don't want to argue about Michelle Obama. We have to learn how to argue stop it stop it
Starting point is 00:28:42 So they decide they're gonna go see a therapist and Mike actually has someone in mind. Let's see, I wonder if it'll be Dr. Jeff or it'll be the other doctor, the other guy. Just let Dr. Jackie do everything on this show, I see. Okay, yeah, let's let Dr. Jackie do it. Cynthia's like, I think this is really good because therapists will give us some clarity in terms of how we argue with each other. Stop it! Stop saying that! She's like, well, I was about to order a new appetizer to the menu. It's called Good Argument. Good Arguments.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Let me add that together. It can only be eaten by two people at a time. So then we go over to Mark and Kenya and they've gone to swim school because like God forbid the baby like gets to you know four months old and doesn't know how to swim. So they are teaching this adorable baby how to swim and they are like you know Mark's in the pool with the baby and they're doing it's because it's like baby baby Aqua baby or something like that and it's like we all came to swim today, to swim today, and swimming pool.
Starting point is 00:29:48 They're all like singing this song, which would honestly, like, I would, it's just not very, it's not a been-friendly song. I'll just say that. Too simple. It's very, it may be not very been, but it is very tricky monocle, you know? We're gonna swim today, we're gonna swim today, We're gonna swim today. We're gonna swim today.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Uh-uh-uh, swim, swim. It's very bravo themed. Um, so the lady's like, okay, well, we're gonna do something called stimulating the X Vada Vada, whatever. And so, um, this basically means just dunking your baby into the water. Don't learn stuff that baby, no, not joke on water. Like, it's like, it's secular baptism time. And Mark's like, well, I'm gonna submerge you. How do you like that? She's like, I've been submerged before.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Yeah, I hate that. I hate that he made that joke. Like, it actually really did not like that. I know every couple, people have their own different way of joking or whatever, but I just think that like that kind of joking with a couple in public is so tacky and it's like annoying for spectators because we're like, are they having an issue?
Starting point is 00:30:58 Are they not? Should I feel awkward right now? But I just think it's just, it's just shitty. I don't like that at all. God, you hate Mark almost as much as Mark hates Kenya. I could never get to that point. It's almost impossible. So he just hates her guts basically.
Starting point is 00:31:14 He hates her. And so then they're sitting with a bottle and she's like, so I guess we'll get to go home and relax. And then we're gonna go meet those other couples. And he's like, mm-hmm. Yeah. Like just giving her dirty looks through this whole scene. And he keeps it. He's always looking at the door, you know?
Starting point is 00:31:31 Like he'll never look at her. He's always staring at the door. Yeah, he won't look at her. Yeah. So yeah, they're gonna, they're talking about their, they're couples bowling night. And so Portia and Dennis are gonna be coming. Todd and Candy, maybe Eva's husband
Starting point is 00:31:47 Michael and basically the whole point of it is that they're going to do couples bowling so that the men can can get acquainted before the charity event. Yeah, it's just like pre-orientation for high school like the pre-ch-charity event mixer it's a charity but you just go do the charity event you know and then they talk about Greg coming and Kenya's like well I'm not in a good place with Neenie and he's like well I want Greg to come so figure that out and she tells us well Mark likes Greg so if he wants to invite him that's fine but I'm not inviting Neenie I left her out of the invite the same way I left her out of my post. Yeah so which is very petty but also by the way
Starting point is 00:32:32 fuck Mark because like Neenie and Kenia have massive beef like you gotta support your wife on this one I'm sorry like I think it's you know I know, fuck him. I think he's such a dick. Yeah, he is. He is a dick. So Kenya is like, you know, I feel uncomfortable being in an intimate setting when she's tried to fight me and call me names and curse me out. And Mark's like, yeah, but a lot of people
Starting point is 00:32:58 get in people's faces. It doesn't mean they want to fight. I'm like, fuck you, Mark. This is your wife is saying she does not feel comfortable with Neenie. Whatever you want to say, I'm like fuck you, Mark. This is your wife is saying she does not feel comfortable with Neenie. Whatever you want to say about Kenya, whatever. This is your wife saying this and you're just going to be like, whatever, whatever. And then he goes, next aqua tauts, mommy's going in and she's not coming out.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I'm like, fuck you. Yeah, you know of a thing called date line, right? Where they're going to keep all these clips for later. You fucker. Yeah. Yeah fucker. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Uh, so yeah, she doesn't tell him, but she tells us, I'm your wife, and when I have a problem with someone,
Starting point is 00:33:32 you have a problem with someone. Got it? But, of course, she doesn't say that to him. And then, then we go over to bowling night. Yeah, now so now's the big bowling night. And by the way, I don't think that Kenya is afraid of Mark. I think she's afraid of losing Mark because I think she's holding on to the idea that she can have a family and this whole like Cinderella story
Starting point is 00:33:53 that she's talked up so much on the show. So people are like, wow, she's afraid of Mark. It's like, no, no, no, she's just like afraid that everything she said is going to blow up in her face. Yeah, because she's Kenya, and she's an asshole. Like, there's, Kenya, you know, there's, Mark is totally wrong, Mark's a total asshole, and I don't think anybody deserves to be emotionally abused, which is what he's doing. But I'm not gonna forget that this is still fucking Kenya, okay?
Starting point is 00:34:20 Kenya's an asshole. But I'm also not gonna fucking forget that Mark chose to marry her, and she's a and or vice versa You know, but all yeah, but like her behavior was like like like like Cynthia's it was on display for many years The was out there. It was no it was no secret You know what he was getting into well, so did she probably and thus his behavior just came out of nowhere We don't know I actually don't know if you knew necessarily. She probably did, but she looked the other way,
Starting point is 00:34:49 but I'm just saying that like, her behavior is undeniable. Like it's all out there. It's like you've got like thousands, if not millions of people over the years who've commented about it and said what, how terrible she is, and how evil she is. And yes, people might say, but I like her on TV, which is what I say, but everyone agrees her on TV, which is what I say.
Starting point is 00:35:05 But everyone agrees, it's Kenya, she's like a monster. They even say it on the show, like it's out there. And for him to be surprised by that, it's like, that reflects more on you than it does on Kenya. Well, yeah, it doesn't reflect either well on either one of them, oh my God. It doesn't reflect well on either one of them, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:35:23 There are both things. Yeah, they both digs, but like her dick, her dickishness is out there. Oh my God, it doesn't reflect well on either one of them. Oh my God. They're both dicks. Yeah. They're both dicks, but like she or her dick, her dickishness is out there. And so if he has a problem with it, like, sorry, it's like, oh, so you decided to buy a 1993 Lincoln Continental and then it broke down a few days later. Well, are mine going to blame the Lincoln Continental? Yeah. I mean, I might, I'll be like, it's a bad car, but I'm also going to be like, why did
Starting point is 00:35:44 you buy that? Yeah lemon law So she then we get some more awkwardness with Mark and Kenya, so she's like, you know This is like a date night for us. We have a nanny and we can sneak in and not not let her know we're back and he's like Yeah, I love it. They stare at the door. I like wanting to look at her. And she's like, I'm gonna put a teenage mint Ninja Turtles game in the corner. She's like sexy time for us. And he's like, oh, oh, that's what you call it now? She's like, well, I know what you call it, but this is a public environment.
Starting point is 00:36:14 And she goes, you, and then she starts doing him like a caveman. And she's like, you, me, make sex. And he's like, oh, and you, you, you, oh, you make too much rough sex. And she's like, uh, yeah, you make too rough sex out. Oh my God, this is getting more and more awkward to listen to. It was awkward and a little confusing. I was having a trouble finding the three lines for what they were doing. So I was like, they were being passive aggressive with each other.
Starting point is 00:36:39 And she's saying that he's, he's always talking really nasty. And then he's like, Oh, and you're saying that rough sex is always too rough and WAM WAM WAM and she's like, yeah, cuz sex is too rough like WAM it's just it was it was pure Yeah, all I knew is it was just like I wasn't yeah, I wasn't totally sure what was happening, but I knew whatever was happening Was not gonna be adding to the foundation of their marriage. Yeah, well that's for sure. No, so Dennis and Porcelain.
Starting point is 00:37:11 So Dennis arrived speaking of Happily Ever After. So they arrived and Dennis is, the whole thing is like, oh Dennis is from Detroit also and he tells Mark, yeah, if you ever need a tip on how to handle Detroit woman, call me. I'm like, and then Mark goes, yeah, where were you two years ago? I'm like, you know, both of you guys just like throw yourselves down the bowling alley. Okay. And like, not go down the gutter.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Just there's a there's a gutter on both sides of the alley. Each of one of you guys take the gutter, go down there. Yeah, Dennis is like, yeah, you know, Detroit women are really tough. You know, you can call a few. I know there's a there's a number right under my elbow skin and then there are two names, one's under my pack and one's under my back. Seriously. Yeah, like, I mean, like I know it was just joking, but it still grossed me out.
Starting point is 00:37:57 I was like, both of you guys are such fuckers. Be quiet. Be quiet. So then Eva shows up, ready to bowl. I'm like, my bed rest, my bed rest anger was through, but I was like, you waddled, you went to kickball. Now you're at bowling. This is, I don't want to have to sit through the scene where you're like, the babies come early, who knew?
Starting point is 00:38:21 I'm like, get on that bed. What a gift to be told. You get to be on in bed what a gift I know you get to miss can you get to miss Kenya's bowling night okay I'm sure everybody wants to be in your position right now. Got a bitch. She just doesn't want to get fired off the show I mean I think it's pretty clear and you know and then on that but then when you say it that way I'm like you know what I respect her. Yeah she's so weird. I'm gonna show up. She's gonna have to work. So then, Portia's like, well, we can't start, Paul, thank you.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Where's Manny? Where's Marlow? Where's Tanya? Can you say, oh, I didn't invite any of those hookers. Like, why would I? And she's like, but I thought it was a meeting before the charity event.
Starting point is 00:39:00 And can you say, well, Tanya was invited and Candy jumps in. She's like, well, you told her she couldn't come without So she didn't come and then we get a clip of Kenya saying, oh, sorry, it's just for couples only Meanwhile, Eve is there You know all these like half half couples arethe is there without shahil like classic Shady Kenya. Yeah, and Mark points that out. He's like, well then why asinthe here? Yeah, and yeah, Mark is like, yeah, I don't know why she said that how asinthe here?
Starting point is 00:39:38 I mean, you're the one who said couples. I said anyone can show up basically throwing his wife under the under the bus in front of everyone. And then the producers like producer basically is like, um, ask Portia, like, would Dan as ever throw you under the bus, I mean, aside from, you know, cheating and, and she's like, no, Dennis is gang and you know, he'd be like, whatever you say, I say, you know, I'd be like, I don't like her. He'd be like, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, you know. And then cheat on you multiple times. And then cheat on you. Yeah. I'd be like, I don't like her. He'd be like, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, you know. And then cheat on you multiple times. And then cheat on you. Yeah. I also mentioned, by the way, that they did have to come up with bowling names to put on the screen. And when can you ask Cynthia what her bowling name would be, she goes, chill.
Starting point is 00:40:18 It's like, oh, God. Team chill. So even it's like, but you didn't invite me any marks. I quote Greg's been reaching out to me via text and you know, I'm cool with me. I knew Greg from before so I'm cool with them. Yeah. No, really, I don't know. Wow, Mark is expecting everyone to put the out differences to the side when his own wife is not putting her differences to the side. And also, Tatto's about Kenya not tagging Mimi. So Porsche's like, well, Eva, I'm glad you came, even though your man can't. And then Cynthia joins him to talk and even it's like wow
Starting point is 00:41:06 Did you guys see mark just shut can you down? Yeah crazy and they're like yeah down and Porsche's like yeah She just falls back and then candy comes over and she's like mark doesn't play. He's not down with nurse shenanigans Yeah, well, I think she even I could be wrong, but I think she even said mark doesn't play nice which is even more like whoa and Portia's be like poor so Portia then tells Kenya like you know what? We're doing a charity event and like in the whole essence of charity You should invite a tania to this bowling thing tonight, you know like you guys like each other and something unfortunate happened And Kenya's like nothing unfortunate happened
Starting point is 00:41:43 Portia's like yeah, you call my friend a cut fitness. That's pretty unfortunate. Yeah. And she's like, well, to tend you, that's a worse thing in the world to be called. And Kenya's like, oh, stay in your own fights. Okay, just stop. And you can put your finger down at me. But, you know, then they just go back to bowling.
Starting point is 00:42:01 I like Kenya, saying telling porcise to to stay, like, basically, staying your own bowling Allie Lane. She's like, you know, stay out. Like why are you fighting Tanya's fight? Even though Kenya is the one who got all involved with the Curculatee, which has nothing to do with her. Yeah, that's Kenya. That's Kenya for ya.
Starting point is 00:42:18 So Kenya wins bowling. Yes, of course. She just cured World Tongueer when she gets that strike. She is like dancing up and down, like rubbing her boobs and people's faces, doing cheers. Yeah. And Porsche is like, well, what do we win?
Starting point is 00:42:35 And Mark's like, listen, we don't want your money. We want your time. The whole purpose is to talk about the event. And I'd love for you guys to speak to the guys that are coming and be role models and blah, blah, blah. And Kenya and Kenny is like yeah I'm glad he's trying to be more involved in Atlantic because that's a plus for me because he's looking for a future here in Not New York. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Yeah, so yeah, I don't know, this is going to work out. Yeah, so Kenya is so they're talking about, this whole, this controversy with the IG tag and everything. And, and Candy Basitails, Kenya, you know what? You should invite Nini since Greg is invited and you should be the one to do it because otherwise Nini's gonna be all like, oh, about the IG tag, it's gonna be a whole thing.
Starting point is 00:43:22 And Portia's like, yeah, I mean, you said, because Kenya's like, no, and Porsche is like, you know, like this is, this is like, put the bull shit aside, like you probably put the bull shit aside, et cetera, et cetera. Like you got to do this. Yeah, she's like, well, Mark's a money wants him to come. And she goes, we had a conversation earlier today
Starting point is 00:43:43 about the couple thing. And Mark's like, you know what,, yeah, let's just rent it in. Let's just rent it in, Ken. Let's rent it in, Ken. Yeah, rent it in, Ken. Rent it in, Ken, which is he's like being like very man's planning condescending, of course. And Portia's like, wait a minute. Who's Ken?
Starting point is 00:43:57 And then Eva says, damn, Mark, he says Ken. And she, she, she quies right down. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah, they're like, even the screen just like stops. He says can and she quiet she quiet is right down. Oh right. Yeah Yeah, they're like the even the screen just like stops and then just like says Ken and points to Kenya Who's looking at let Mark like you fucking asshole fine? Yeah, and Porsche's like what we were talking each other for events, you know the other day She reached out to Kenya for her event and can he's like I went to her event. She didn't come to my event
Starting point is 00:44:24 Hmm, I'm like oh my god. didn't come to my event. No. I'm like, oh my god, it's not about your events, OK? And she says, yeah, but I was a bigger person in that situation. And Kenia says, yeah, but then that wasn't a thing where she posted and invite didn't tag you. And Kenia's like, why did that after? I did that after. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Um, and it's interesting to watch. It's like watching. It really is like children fighting like she started it. She did it for like you're both grounded shut up. I'm putting you in the trunk until we get there. Okay. And it's also known because Kenya has she actually comes into this situation with a higher ground. She went to Nini's event and Nini went to a, was two and a half hours late and is acting like Kenya did the most
Starting point is 00:45:16 egregious thing when it was Nini who was the vial hostess. But now Kenya is squandering all that. I don't know, some sort of capital, some sort of friendship capital. I don't know what it is. But she's squandering all that tired and exhausting with this. Yeah, exactly. And then Mark keeps on, you know, so Portia at one point is pretty funny because she's talking about how, you know, they keep talking Kenya and Mark keep talking about like, is it my event, it's our event, whatever. And parts are like, um, you're married, you don't have an event of your own, okay, this is, you're like a wife now, like, she's a wife, okay, not just a
Starting point is 00:45:53 girlfriend, okay, and I know like she's the neck and he's the head, but like, damn, he also seems like he's the whole mother fucking body, you know. Yeah, Mark's a quick one second, Ken, one second, just one second, Ken. First, he goes, they're gonna have a talking home. I can tell the way he's talking about things. Yeah. So they're all those colla good about. Yeah, so the Nini and Greg walk up. And so what's hilarious about this,
Starting point is 00:46:17 and also sort of aggravating, is Nini comes in all dancing and happy and hugging, because she's playing up this whole thing like I'm the bigger person and she knows it's gonna annoy Kenya and she knows that she knows that she has mark at her back and Greg and so that Kenya can't say anything so she comes in and like oh hi I'm fun Nini I'm gonna be nice to everyone I'm gonna be sweet to everyone and I'm just a great person. And on the one hand it was hilarious because she's totally fucking with Kenya. But on the other hand it was just like fuck you, Nady.
Starting point is 00:46:51 You were two and a half hours late to your stupid lunch. And she's also in a turban, like a glorious wanson turban. And glorious wanson is like the epitome of over the hill past their prime like exhausted movie characters. Like that's the whole point. I was like, oh, here she comes. And she's coming in, of course, hours late, as usual. So on top of everything else, after all the bowling is done. So yeah, she's like, can you more, can you more? Oh, wow, look at those tips, can you? Can gee, she's just trying to ignore her and swiping on her phone.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And so Greg is Greg and Nina are talking to Mark. And he's like, well, I just have to tell you that, you know, as far as your event goes, I can't go anywhere that my wife is not invited. And Mark's like, but she is invited. And he goes, no, she's not, she's not on the Instagram post. Yeah. And then so, and by the way, so, and Kenia was right there too.
Starting point is 00:47:47 And so Mark is like, well listen, we're gonna shove all this nonsense for Tuesday and I would never divide a couple. I want you guys to be there and Kenia agrees, right? Kenia and she's like, I agree. And it was like funny that like Kenia was put in this place, but at the same time it was also, so it was just so obnoxious of March to do that, you know, so passive aggressive and I rubbed me the wrong way. You know, but at the same time, like how much of how much
Starting point is 00:48:14 of it do you have to take of your partner just starting shit and always trying to start fights everywhere you go? You know, I don't think that you're automatically, I don't think you're automatically, you should automatically be forced to take that, you know, it's ridiculous. Like can you, can you, is not even chosen? I don't know, but it's hard because I, obviously this guy is an asshole, but can you have such an asshole too that I can't just like come all the way down on his, on her side. And that's really sad. That's how bad Kenya is.
Starting point is 00:48:44 The guy is this much of a fucking monster and I'm like, well, I don't know. I think that I think it's I have the sort of a different take on it which is that just shows how much of a monster this guy is that I'm willing to exonerate Kenya. That's my flip of it, you know. I just think that like yeah, she does like stupid, stupid, petty things but I think ultimately she made her, she made it very clear several times that she doesn't want them there and Mark still went ahead and invited. So then she retaliates by doing this really, really passive aggressive thing by only tagging
Starting point is 00:49:17 Greg, which by the way, LOL that this is such a thing like, oh, she agreed, but she agreed that she would invite Neenie to that event. She just went and didn't tack Nini to keep shit going You know, he's just like can I have a decent fucking event my god like we agree that you're gonna let Nini come to the event But not bowling night or whatever the hell it is, but then you're gonna not tack her and keep the shit going, you know, it's just stupid Well, I think that he's a huge dick. Yeah, of course he is. Yeah But I think that he's a huge dick. Huge dick. Yeah, of course he is. Yeah. But I think that also he'd like, but he does it. It's, it's, I see what you're saying, but he still executes that in a way where he
Starting point is 00:49:55 is putting his wife down in public and makes her look shitty in public. And I don't know. Like I think that they look petty in public by doing shit like that, by saying, okay, we'll invite Neenie, but I'm gonna publicly humiliate her by not tagging her on purpose, you know? So they're going at each other. It's like seeing, it's like you just, you can't. I cannot pick a side in this
Starting point is 00:50:19 because it's like two horrible people being horrible people and I think they fucking deserve each other and they're both terrible. I think that they're definitely two horrible people going at each other. I just think that like, I think that he is, I think in this case, he is more of the offender because this is the culmination of so many times when he's done this shit. Like, he's always being so obnoxious to her like in front of her friends or whatever. And I just don't think, I think in terms of like,
Starting point is 00:50:53 husband and wife relationship, I just think that's like bullshit. And I think that he's, she's a piece of work, but he is. Yeah, they both suck. I'm just staying on my side. They both suck. Okay, that's both say I'm just staying I'm staying on my side. They both suck Okay, that's fine. I'm not moving. It's really not worth anything any sleepover Yeah, I'm staying firmly in my day both suck
Starting point is 00:51:14 Yeah Listen, I think we all agree on that point. That's one thing that we can all that's one thing that unites all of America They both yeah, they both suck, but I'd rather see her on my TV than him. How about that? Yeah, I don't want him on my TV. I don't want her on my TV either. I want her on my TV. I don't want him. I want her on my TV a lot. So anyway, he's talking to, they're both, you know, Kenya standing there, but he's basically talking to both Nidia and Greg. And they're watching, all the girls are watching Kenya just sit there silently and Candy's like, God, when she's with him, she's an angel and when she's with us, she's hell on wheels, you know, so they're all noticing this and Mark is like, can we just can we just put the ego away? And he's like, of course, you know, like acting like yeah, this is never her
Starting point is 00:52:00 And then she gives Kenya hug. She's like, thank you. I really appreciate it Kenya. That's her an issue I'm just either an issue because I don't have an issue. Just want you to know I don't have an issue. Are there do you have an issue? It was so So mean girl and Kenya's like we can talk another time. Okay. We can talk with my dad's not here Yeah, and Mimi's like well, I just want you to know I don't have any issues. Okay. Can't you just like nice try. I'll still yell at you later. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:31 It's right for me being so fake. And that's where it ended. No, actually, Kenya is over talking to Mark and she's pissed and she's, well, you got everything you wanted. You got the whole family to come together. And he's like, Oh, no, I got what we wanted. got the whole family to come together and he's like oh no I got what we wanted we're a team oh Yeah Terrible terrible team that never makes the playoffs. Yep
Starting point is 00:52:53 Well, and that was the end of that next week it looks like maybe Kenya and Mark. It's finally gonna end who knows I mean we do know it ends in real life although she did post a picture of Mark with the baby on Instagram last week I don't even know I can't keep track. I'm I Guess I'll just have to keep watching, you know, yeah, and we'll keep watching we will Yeah, we'll be back We'll be back on our next episode to recap the latest on Shaz of Sunset Which is also having lots of lots of acrimony and, if you want to come see us in Salt Lake City, that's a few weeks away, watchrocraftens.com. And then big cities were going to Boston, D.C.
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