Watch What Crappens - RHOA: Wig Out

Episode Date: April 24, 2018

The tenth season of "Real Housewives of Atlanta" ends with a hilariously relentless dragging of Kim Zolciak Biermann. And it is all so good. But we couldn't let Nene, Kenya, and Kandi have all the fun. Come listen to our recap of this savage reunion finale. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I'm Ben Mandelker from Bsablog.com and the BantraBlender podcast. Joining me today is a wonderful, wonderful man. It is the one and only Ronnie Caram from TrashTalkTV.com and the Rose Pricks Bachelor podcast. What's up Ronnie? Oh hello! trashtalktv.com and the Rose Pricks Bachelor podcast. What's up Ronnie? Oh, hello. Are you excited for the Kim Zolciac Dragathon 2000? Oh my God. Wow.

So even made noises from drag race. Wow. This is first Bravo Drag Kim and now we get to do, we get to drag Kim. But before we get into that madness because wow, wow, that was just pure madness on the real house side of Atlanta reunion part three. A few things, if you missed it on Friday, we have added a second show in Philly this summer. We are doing another show on July 19th at World Cafe Live. Tickets are going to go on sale at noon Eastern on Wednesday. We will have a ticket link up at WatcherCrapins.com. But if you want those tickets, make sure you

were at your computer or maybe by a phone. At noon Eastern, that's 9 a.m. Pacific, to get those tickets because they will probably go fast. We have a little bit of a track record of that happening. So we're really excited about that. The other thing, that was like the main announcement. But the other thing I wanted to say, we recorded a bonus episode, go to patreon.com slash watchrocarpens to do that. And we had a really fun time, we talked about Potomac Potomac will be taking over the Monday slot on watchrocarpens starting next week. We're really excited for that.

But last night's episode of Potomac was really good, And so we had a fun time recapping that and some other stuff And one of the things that we talked about or at least I talked about was how I saw a panel of Daisoos and Merro over the weekend They are like the bodega boys podcast. We have a show in Bice-land and they were so inspirational And they really talked like all the things that they were saying about what they've done with their podcast and what they've stayed true to is stuff that we're always saying and Just in short, I was just saying in the bonus episode that I was so inspired by them And it was like a great reminder for us to you know to continue to be to stay authentic as this podcast grows and we do things like add second shows to Philadelphia Like as I slammed the screen door after smoking out of it, it's okay. Someone someone on our Facebook group was like, I love when Ben goes on a big rant.

And then when he's over, there's like a moment of silence because Ronnie's gone outside to smoke a cigarette. And he can always tell because he can hear the door creaking close. I'm not outside. You just hear my chair roll back. Right. I'm like, but either way, it was just like hearing them and seeing the success that they've had while remaining so true to themselves.

I just left that being like, you know what? Like, I, there's anything that happens with this podcast. The one thing that I want always to be the same is that we just remain totally authentic to the show and to like the listeners and to each other. And I just am like, so inspired for the future for this podcast by by Daisy's and Mara. So I just felt like being cheesy and saying that at the top of the episode. The other thing that happened this weekend, which is really significant, is that Dorenda Medley had a bird in her house. Did you see this? No, she did not watch that. Okay. I barely keep up with these shows without the Instagram stuff Dorenda

She she put on Instagram on her Instagram story that she had a burdener house and As a beautiful bravo commentator, I felt it was my obligation to save that Instagram story and present it to you all so here it is. Oh good okay I've 14 seconds of Pure bliss ready. Yeah, can you hear this now? Yeah, oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. There's a bird in my living room Come on birdie. You got to go. Oh Okay, no, no, okay go okay no no okay

bro bro bro bro bro bro bro okay that was it it was once the first it got go bro bro bro bro bro why can't we just be fun

get out of here you dumb slide why can't we just be friends bro it's embarrassing you I was saying people both from Berkshies, you know you me people I mean people are happy people I got you last say He's barely having I love She is much crazy after in done my gosh calmer than I would be it reminded me of the scene in a rest development We're buster busters like there's a bird in the house it walked on my pillow

well last night when this show was starting I was texting with my friend Monique or our friend Monique and she's like I'm so sad it's over because I was watching it after I had already taped it and I was like what do you mean it's over it's only part two of the reunion. What are you talking about? She's like dumbass, it's part three. How do I not even remember? And we record episodes after we watch it, okay? It's like, yeah. That's how badly I wanted this to just keep going

and going, like in my mind, I was just making it go forever because it hasn't been the best season, but it has been a great reunion. Well, I think, I don't even, it's, the part one was okay. Part two is a little bit better, but this part three was like, whoa, like, jaw on the ground with the amount of delusion that Kim Zollsieck shows from beginning to end. And the way that they all just like line up and just beat her down, it was just like

one after the other. You know, it was like that scene in an airplane where they're trying to, where are the women's in hysterics and all the passengers get in line and they all are like punching their hands in their fists. Someone's got like a bat, there's like a nun who's like, rea slap,

they're all coming and just like slapping her down. It was like, it was actually like very gratifying. And you gotta have that to Zolciac because normally in a house where I show, this is when you start liking somebody again, but they get, you know, when everybody is against them. You know, it feels like, oh my God, they're bullied, and then you start feeling for them,

and then those people can win back points immediately. And I have to have it to camp for not being able to get one single point. Yeah, because she just keeps lying about everything and then they cut the tape and she's like blatantly lying about everything all the time. She doesn't even know how to play the victim well. That's one thing that you have to be able to do on these shows. She can't even do, she's just like a big thick piece of plastic.

She does not understand. It was, she's awful and she's like problematic and stupid and a liar. It just, it kept on going and I personally, you know, let's see, we had like three major, like well, yeah, Nini went at her, then Kenny went at her, Candy went at her, Cynthia a little bit. I think Kenya was the one who handled her the best. And again, I think it's, it's further proof why we need Kenny on this show because she can really eviscerate someone without having to like yell like Nini, Nini also to her to her apartment. Nini starts yelling. She starts shouting and it becomes a shouting match. Kenya just, you know, she just

says hilariously crazy things and just takes, just took him down like that. It was brilliant. Well, I don't know if I'd go as far as brilliant, but it was fun and it was fun having fun watching Kenya again, because it's been a rough season. Yeah, exactly. For me an old Ken. So at first I wrote, oh God, here we go again,

because it's like, welcome to the build more. It's like, look, I stand a layer and Because it's like, welcome to the build more. It's like, look, a sandalier. And then it's just Neenie screaming. Oh my God. Yeah, I was like, oh shit, I forgot. We are just jumping right back into this mess. And they are still fighting about the handicap photo. And it's just so good.

Okay, so then they're both wrong. This is a typical Neenie and Kim fight, where they're just both fucking wrong. Yeah. And so instead of talking, they just start yelling nonsense at each other. And Neenie's like, you are jealous. You are a hater. You haven't had breakfast.

He's house track. Oh, what does she even think? Did she just say you haven't had breakfast? So I rewinded three times. And I think she said you haven't had breakfast. And then she's, I'm sure that's not what she said, but she says yelling so much nonsense that totally could be what she said. She's making statements about it.

You haven't had breakfast. You slept five minutes later than you were supposed to, Kim. Listen, Miss News Alarm. I'm like, what are you even yelling at? So then she's like, you just talk trash whenever you get with Saray and then Kim's like Oh, you can't stand that we're friends for 15 years And then they're just screaming at each other and Kim's like she can't even stay in her chair And she's like I'll stay in my chair breathed lady. What are they even talking about? Okay, when is even happening?

even talking about. Okay, when is even happening? I like Nini's commitment to making sure Kim has three square meals a day. That's a, that's that that show. She's a good friend, you know, Jimmy Dean sausage machine. Oh my God, why are you guys yelling? So Nini's like, I don't give a fuck about you.

I don't give a fuck about y'all. I don't come up. But yeah, and then so Kim's like, well, I don't give a fuck about you. I don't give a fuck about y'all. I don't come up But yeah, and then so Kim's like well, I don't give a fuck about you parking in a handicap spot But you still did it which is like the least sensical lean-in to that fight ever And so me just pivot her Kim is like not she's like well I don't give a fuck about staples, but you so park in a handicap spot like well those two things don't make sense and why are you talking about staples? And you still park in the handicap spots. Like, well, those two things don't make sense. And why are you talking about staples? And then Andy's like, so, you just call him, you know, he's like, so, why did you park in that handicap spot?

And she's like, he goes, because Greg's handicap, and she's, yes, Greg and the person I was with had a handy cap stick or two. Yeah, that is such a lie but it's such a lie. That is such a lie and I love that she just sticks with it and she then she goes, what are you a parking meter? Yeah, she's like, are you a parking meter lady?

I can park wherever I want. You are not the parking meter lady. I was like, you can't park wherever you want. Um, and I like, I like having a cap. Are you having a cap? Can you park in the handicapped spot? Where's your scooter? Where's your scooter? Where is it? Where is it? Where is your scooter?

Which is actually like really offensive in so many ways, but Used against Kim is really hilarious, you know and Kim's like well, you should have taken a handicap spot from a handicap person Which is probably true to like well you shouldn't take a handicap spot from a handicap person which is probably true to but at the same time it's like this is Kim I just have a hard time taking this Kim side in this I just love Neenie where is your scooter where is your scooter Leads 4 to them just such trash together. You okay bitch you okay and she's like where is that bitch Yeah, you you're big ass float, you have sitting on your chest.

I was like, okay, like, now it's just observational commentary. Oh, so you've got a chef, you're hanging above your head. It's like, yeah, she does. So Andy's like, whoa, 10 years, sure fly, don't they? And they're fighting about each other's plastic surgery, just giving each other tons about plastic surgery which they both look fucking crazy, you know that's what I love about these two fighting.

Like they're both so ridiculous. I'm rude. But I think that's like a false, um, false level. Revolency because yeah, Nini looks, when she first got the surgery, it was like, whoa, look at that surgery. But I'm like, okay, but it looks not of gotten used to it. It's like it's like fine Kim though That's like she's crazy face her nose looks like a ski jump okay her lips are like it looks like one of those crazy lip couches You know this is like this is a woman

You know her eyes look like she looks like a these modern furniture. She does it. She's she's like she looks She genuinely looks like a craze she looks like a crazy crazy person She's bought her they weren't bonkers. They weren't even talking about each other's faces. That was what's hilarious because Neenie's like where's your scooter like that? Okay, we'll pass the handicap but it was just cracking me up So they then she goes well what about your plastic surgeon because your floaters aren't even working bitch and Kim's like Oh really? What about yours? And then they start fighting about each other's boobs, which that is not a false equivalence

Well, I thought that Kim was making fun of Neenie's teeth, which I feel like if anything Neenie's teeth are probably the best thing that she got done I would move on to those because then Neenie goes, well, my teeth are amazing and Jinco's you ate the last set. Which barely makes like that's really make if anyone ate, if anyone ate teeth it was Kim Zolci actually like, oh look, there are chicklets already in my mouth. You know, she's like, look if this is a fake quarter, I can't buy it into it. Oh god damn it.

Why they make chicklets so hard these days, guess I'll just swole. Um, and then she's like, I'm just glad I didn't go to your doctor. And then Nini is like, well, whoever you went, you pulled you a little too tight, you know? Just true. I mean, it's like, she's, oh my god. I heard it at this point. So Andy's like, okay, well, that's changed gears and talk about Shere. So Andy's favorite thing of this reunion

is just to say she buys Shere over and over again. And Shere, how many times has Shere fallen on her face in this reunion? It's like just me. Shere is. I'm still standing by my theory that Shere is depressed. And I actually really mean that. I think that she really went all,

when the lie, not the lie, but when it came out about Bob and it was this facade that you've been keeping up when it came down, it sort of just like was the last thing sort of keeping her together. She seems much more inside. She seems quiet. She doesn't seem like she's barely standing up for herself. She's barely standing up for friends. She's not collecting bones. She's just, she seems quiet. She doesn't seem like she's, she's barely standing up for herself. She's barely standing up for friends.

She's not collecting bones. She's just not doing anything. I feel like she's like not even present. And I actually feel bad for her. Well, Siree is known high as and lows. And I sound like Andy, but she's known highs and lows in the housewives game. And Siree knows when she's beat.

I mean, this whole season she thought she was on the right team, you know? And so she didn't probably, she thought she was on the right team, you know, and so she didn't probably find out that she was on the wrong team until the season had been airing. And she's like, oh, shit. So now she's just going to be quiet. I read an item over the weekend saying that the reason why she was fired was basically, it could have been because of Tyrone because Bravo can't film in or even outside of the prison. And so it's like really affecting what they could do with her. So they're like, you know what?

It's not good. So now Tyron's ruining it for Shirei, which I don't think Shirei should be fired personally. I like Shirei. Yeah, I mean, everyone's saying, oh, her storyline and her fake ass in this and that, which I love. Remember last season when Shirei,

when Shirei was pretending she lived in that house and she was just standing out on the front porch sweeping when someone came over Yeah, that's like my thing. I like Sheree doing nothing. You know, I'm okay with that What storyline does Nina have? She has no story line except to like yell at Porsche about something that was said on dish nation. Come on Yeah, or pretend that her son is like a charming stand-up comic or whatever while he plays pool and doesn't go to school At least give us charade so we can look at Cairo, okay? Just give us charade just as for charade Yeah, just as for charade so Andy is just really cool

He just kept keeps saying she buys charade over and over again, which is just so rude at this point Yeah, and then he's like It's time to call Tyrone and you can use my phone. And then everybody just looks at him like, oh, with your fucking rhymes. Everything's a fucking... Well, it's an error because he may be a tree, but he's... No, I know, but it's just everything he says is like... I know. He puts the bad in bad-do. Yeah. He's C by Shiree and he's he by in prison A or whatever. It's like I know he put the bad and bad do yeah, she is she by charay and he's he by in prison a Or whatever like oh

Okay, God So like so is Kelly which is charade daughter she found with Tyrone she's like oh It's like oh my ship's going on for a better It's like on the hey so charay are on for a while. Oh, dear. It's like, oh my. So, Shreya, you and Tyrone having phone sex, she's like, oh, Andy, oh, Andy. I can't even imagine what that phone sex would be like. It's be like, sooo, baby, when I get out of there, I'm gonna install some exercise equipment in that.

The hand cave. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, just get good. Yeah, they've already had phone sex and we heard it. It was about a Nordic track. Yeah. So they're not engaged and according to Shirei and no Tyrone did not help pay for Shatto Shirei, even though there are conspiracy theories that he was paying for, which is why there was a delay because he went to jail. Shere is not going to be honest. It's hard to tell what she said. Yeah, I'm not arguing with you. I'm arguing with the TV. It's hard to tell if she's being honest and she's doing her clear sign of a lie and she does the same thing that Kim does, which is she pulls her weave.

She just starts pulling at her ponytail, pulling at it, pulling at it, pulling at it, and it's like you're lying. I know that she's uncomfortable too But especially when it gets to this was he paying and then you know You couldn't finish the house because he went to prison because that means that her house was involved in that fraud And she could get taken you know, she can get it taken away and all that stuff. Yeah So Vermin wants to know why you would date a stupid criminal And then she's like well, I know that I know this man's character. And I don't worry about it.

And he goes, so he's in jail for fraud. And she's like, hmm, why fraud? Like, that's much better. You just, I know that I tell you about his character and what you may know about him. Maybe a fraud. Don't you really operative word there? Fraud. Well, when I saw the Cirque du circus so late, there was a man walking out of high wire and I thought you go to our own.

I believe in you, time-room. Like making it into a talent. What was the favorite movie? I was like, what? I like lost the second. She's like, hey, now again, why fraud? It's, you know, he doesn't the second round. It's not a lie. It's a, you know, he doesn't know circus. It's a high-wire fraud, 80.

I saw a movie in the 80s with Goldie Hahn and I think it was a Mook Gibson. And it was called, uh, Bruno and wire fraud. Bruno and wire fraud. Yeah. They had to climb across two buildings on an IBM. Who is a dense and they might have been the zoo. So he's like, well, I'm concerned about when he's getting out.

And she's like, well, he's waiting on his eye calendar for the pew. And if he doesn't win, and Andy's like, but if he doesn't win, it's going to be four more years, right? And she goes, no, two, on 10-a-tate, on 8-6, on 10-a-s-two, on 29, and fraction, fraction, fraction, and then I'm just like out of it. I'm like blacking out. Yeah, meanwhile, his appeal was denied,

and he's gonna be in jail for many more years. Well, I think like two or four more years, but she's like, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, him, but you know, I got to live my life. I got to date other people You know, I got to see other people so it's like yes, you will be with him. Yes, I will be you know, it's like you okay pretty much Amanda's like what are you dating when she's like do you pay phones count? I have seen they phones you know, put a quarter in there, so Tape on say so like pay phones are not available either. They're also leaving you Like payphones are not available either. They're also leaving you

Okay, so then I noticed her belt is like a Gucci. I don't know why I wrote that down It's a quite you wearing a belt over a dress array. That's why I said that she looked like a scarlet man a night a few weeks ago Because she's like covered up every inch of her body, but then it's like oddly cinched It's just was it was like I don't don't know. So Portia is like, well why did a guy who's not physically available? I don't get it. And so she's Portia is like, well, some people date Barry Man and they're not available. And of course, Andy, so then this is great

because then he's like, oh, whoa, I feel like I just heard an echo of closer legs to married man Which of course then totally insights Kim and Nina they they come back again and Kim's like Well, maybe Neenie sure done that with Greg and that Neenie is like gray Hugg and I have been married for 20 years, you know, you know like what you what what what about you dancing a wasis for 20 years dresses and nurse Oh, yes She was at the oasis Dresses a nurse and I've been married 20 years to blah blah blah and she goes and she's been with two married man

And one of her bought that house over in sugarloaf, which is just such a Kim place to live sugarloaf Really it really is We love sugarloaf isn Isn't sugar loaf in Brazil? I don't know, but I love the name Sugar Lose. Well, I'm gonna look it up. And so Kim's like, it's none of your mother fucking bullshit business, Nostra. I've been married seven years, next honey, next.

Like, Kim, you've already introduced this into evidence, you know? Like, do you watch Law and Order? Any, any version, even the Menendez brothers one, like you have to, like you have to be the one to introduce it into evidence. You can't be saying it's not fair. Ma'am, objection, objection. So Sugar Loaf is not in Brazil.

It's, it's in Maine, which I actually did know also, but wasn't, isn't there something in Brazil that's called like sugar something I've never been to Brazil Hell yeah, it's called like sugar Sugar something like sugar. Isn't there a sugar? There is a sugar loaf in Brazil Never see It's a famous one. It's a famous you know, it actually looks like Kim Zolciak if you really look at it. It's a famous one. It's a famous, you know, it actually looks like Kim Zolciak. If you really look at it, it's the same shape.

Look, look up, Sugar Loat, look up Rio Sugar Loat and do an image search. It's like a mountain version of Kim Zolciak. A mountain person. Okay. Rio Sugar Loat. I don't even have to type it in. It's the second choice on Google images

Oh my god, it does look like him It's the Kim Zolciac of rock formations. Sugar low It is you should superimpose that picture I drew with Kim over the sugar low mountain Do you have it you what you have a rocky film way you got a mountain you got a mountain hour I don't know last time I check you didn't have a mountain. I've been a sugarloat for 500 years honey. Nice try Bye, I'm mountain. Bye Could you imagine oh you don't watch Game of Thrones, but there's a character on their name the mountain This a Imagine Kim.

Bob, you're not really on. I got sugar loaf. Okay. They're putting every warrior up against mountain Kim. I love that sugar loaf looks like him because that's what I would name a mountain that looks like him. Sugar loaf. Sure.

Anything with loaf in it. You know, like potato loaf. Oh, I love potato bread Okay, so she belt she belt that was her face belt Okay, so they're fighting over who cheated and who was dating married man and guess what the real answer is both of them both of them were So Andy's like sorry, it came you're really gonna hate this question But did big papa ever leave his wife? She's like, I had yeah, I don really gonna hate this question, but the big papa ever leave his wife She's like, I had the I don't know. I've been with course seven years. Okay, seven and a half years. Okay, honey

Come on stop trying Andy stop trying and me and he got 20 here 20 up in Mary 20 scooter We're just good. I Just want to say though that when Nini initially said that Kim was a stripper I thought her denial Was a guilty denial like I thought she was actually very quiet, but she's like what she's like that's no That's like ridiculous. That's that's crazy because Kim is good for just like yelling She's good for being like oh shut up bitch shut up bitch if I was tri bitch. If I was tripping, you're the stripper first, bitch, you're a stripper. I'm a mountain, you're a stripper, you know, but like she was

like, what? No, which means I think that I caught her by surprise and she didn't know how to handle it. Because wasn't Kim and actual nurse. That's what I thought, which is very sad about our medical. It's hilarious that she's just like, I'm coming after work. Like she's just, you know, really trying to get through that school or whatever. But I think she is, she wants a nurse, I think. I just thought, but.

I don't know. Maybe she's just a lot of horse. Maybe she's just a lot of horse. See, that's the thing. Like, when everybody's keeping their secrets for all these years, and then it's like, no one's surprised that Kim was a stripper. I think we all kind of assumed that.

But it's like, now you're bringing it up. It's like, you could have told this a long time ago. Now I'm mad at you. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so now Kim is now at the point where she's losing every fight, because Mimi, you can't win a fight with Mimi because you can out yell the bitch. I mean, she will just yell at you forever.

They're both wrong in this one, but Mimi just keeps yelling. So then Kim does, I learned this from Facebook, what this is from. She goes, which apparently is from Drag Race. I guess they just like that bird call. I guess it's where they make bird calls some chantla. I don't know you guys, I'm so sorry, I'm not kind of on my Drag Race. But I guess somebody makes that bird call at somebody and I heard that faith was doing it on that MTV show.

Oh yeah. X with my X with my yeah, X with X with my X X on sugarmax and sugar loaf. Yeah, I Fuck Jackson now. I'm stuck on the Scott there channel for six weeks. I fuck Jackson now. I'm stuck on sugar loaf Yeah, faith mountain Sugar loaf mountain is just a giant bay. So a giant bay. So yeah, so yeah, Neenie with the book. And so it's like so back to Shirei and Tyrone. So Neenie, what do you think? And she's like, well, I think that Tyrone and Shirei make a great couple. I'm like, even though you called them like a shady fraud, you

know, con man criminal. And you think they make a great couple. And she's like, well, she was doing it in that way where she's like I don't want to answer that so it's wonderful they make a great couple which is how she just started answering everything in this for the rest of this reunion she's like well of course I said that of course I did so then he's like so why were you mad she's I just got sick of talking about it. And he's like, yeah, but then in Barcelona, you said you never dated and then Candy asked you about it. She's like, I was just asked so many times, which is another Newney lie. And then Candy's like, well, I got my head chopped off and then he's like, I don't even care if it looks suspicious. Scooter, eat your breakfast. Scooter, your breakfast.

Scooter. Scooter, just have your... Well, I'm trying to imagine what Kim eats for breakfast. Probably like the cookie crisps or something like that. I like those little guys on there. Little robbers. So then, and he's like, well, on your blog, you said that Tyrone was suspicious, but now he's a perfect man, which is just shady, you know, which is what you just said. And then, so she's just trying to get it over with. So she's like, well, on Twitter, you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said you said, well, on Twitter, you said you said you said to tick. So what do you mean by that? And she's like, well, I'm sick of being asked about it. Of course, I said this, of course I did. I'm like, which is why I feel like

Uber rape jokes don't land. Neenie, you've got to really think about your setup and punch line. It's just, it's, you got to think about it a little bit. Okay. Yeah. Think about your audience. Okay. If you go on Twitter and say, I suck just dick, sometimes people will think you suck just dick. And she probably did. This is one of those things where it's like, she thinks there's lie detectors hooked up to DVR. So she's just going to be like this with everything. Of course I did, which she probably did, you know. Yeah. So Andy, Shady, Shady asked Andy, he's like, well, I spoke with him today. By the way, Shere, you owe me $12 for

that collect call. And he said, you stalked him, you showed up in Philadelphia, and then Neenie's face just see like half closes her eyes like she does and kind of crosses them. And I'm like, oh, so it's true. Well, but it is. It's really neat. Also, I don't know if it's true. We can't sit here and be like the guy is a fraud and then like then all of a sudden his word is fact. So I don't know. I like Neenie's response as well.

We'll talk to Lyrone when he gets out, you know. I like that. Yeah. Oh my god, I like that. See? Now. Violet. Don't want no breaks. Don't want no breaks.

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So Andy wants to know why they're not friends. Like, you know, basically, like, why do they hate each other so much? And he's like, well, look, Shrine and I had this light shade back and forth about our houses. And I was just shading Shrine and then Kim barge in and was being like an asshole and it's like who the fuck is this bitch you know and Kim is like well I thought we're going to be in rude you know I was like I just I just merely asked why you have to be an asshole

I just was like I'm gonna innocently ask him it's like no Kim you showed up and you tried to have a moment you were like I'm back I want to start a fight I want to get on screen okay so don't act like you were just just pleasantly asking why Kenya was being rude. Yes, and Kenya was being fucking rude. She was being an asshole in that scene. I didn't even have that much of a problem with Kim and that one, I was like, LOL,

because she's letting Kenya have it and Kenya was being a damn asshole, I thought, in that scene. But it's like, you can't even keep from lying even in this and you weren't even necessarily in the wrong, you know. But she makes her say, sounds so demure. Like she's less of a thing. It's like, I was just standing on her side.

But like when you see it, you see that Kim, like, is not just standing in for sure. She's like, she's like, coming for Kenya. And she's like, well, you're never gonna have a baby. You don't have a baby. You're like, you're just dried up, you know? Like she was, she went pretty below the belt, pretty quickly over a stupid fight about abasement.

Well, it became husband's and this show is really rough. Yeah. Because who are you going to stand up for? It's like, I mean, Kim, and this one, obviously, Kim, Kim loses this whole fucking reunion. Oh, she lost. But in general, it's like, Kenya's being mean and calling her a hoe and her daughter a hoe and her, well, yeah, she hadn't called her daughter a hoe back then. But talking about her husband,

they just all go so fucking low and it's so gross and hilarious and wonderful. I hope they never change. But it's like when we're talking seriously, but look, here's what I wrote. This is a mysterious note I have about this whole thing. Kim and Sheree both have baseball skin. I don't think the air conditioner was on or something

because everybody looked really hot and porous. That's all I can think. You can't fall skin. I don't understand the air conditioner was on or something because everybody looked really hot and porous That's all I think ball skin. I don't understand how that correlates I guess it's probably like football skin like leather skin, you know Like when it gets kind of hot and your pores open. You're just like I'm hot. We're under these hot lights And now we're talking about it's not an abacement. Yeah, it was not an HD Friendly moment for their skin, but yeah, Kenya based is like, you know, Andy Kim and her daughter always have something to say about me and I'm sorry Andy I can't hear her behind her wig, which was hilarious because it's not like she's the only one wearing a wig

But she's the one who always gets clocked for it every single time who always gets clocked for it every single time. I just wanted to look at her behind her wig. Because of Kenya's season, she got stuck at the other end of the couch, like the ass end of the couch. So she's pissed. And so Kim is at the seat right next to Andy. So she kept turning her way from Kenya. And so she could just ignore her.

So Kim, he was like, I'm changing my chair. I can't see from behind her wig and the... I didn't know it was a great little power move. It was her way of saying like, um, I may be on the edge here, but don't think that you're in front of me online. I'm gonna come and I'm gonna look at you in your face because I belong here too and And Kim's like, well, you ain't gonna get a moment for me. You ain't gonna get a moment for me. I'm like him. All you are is a big moment You're a big thirsty moment. Okay. Also, she's taking Kenya's terminology, because Kenya was the one yelling earlier in the season. You can't have this as a moment, Cynthia. This is the moment. Yeah. So, Kim is like trying to use her words against her. Doesn't work. Yeah, exactly. So, and by

the way, just to go back to what you were saying before about how low they go on this show They do go low but like Kim Zolciac and I will always call her Kim Zolciac not Kim Beerman, but Kim Zolciac She She really goes low and she goes low fast and quickly and then she gets really righteous in sanctimonious when someone goes low on her And so on this reunion people went really low with her But it kind of felt like you you know what, we're sick of you saying all this bullshit like kids are off limits, kids are off limits. And then you like, you know, then she'd like, let's her kids do basically, Brielle do all this dirty work, you know what? And they, I think they just were like, fuck it. We don't care. We're going to talk shit about you and your kids. And

they really weren't even, well, they did you about real but they were really it really was more about Kim as a mother you know and Kim is one of those people that if you say you know a Kim I fucking hate you and your stupid clothes that are children's eyes leave my children out of it you know I just said the word you know yeah remember when you ordered a single scoop come leave my kids out of this whenever when you ordered a single scoop, leave my kids out of this. She is like that. You can't sit with us, go back to the kids table, leave my kids out of it.

Yeah, she's just a hypocrite and you can't be on her side. I mean, there's no way because once you try and you're like, well, maybe you were writing that argument and she just lies about something or, I mean, she's just the worst. Kim's like, she's not funny enough anymore. Like if she were so funny, that'd be one thing, but she's not even funny.

She's not funny. She's not interested at all. She's just, she is like, she is like milk in a microwave, just, you know, accelerating the, the, the, the curdling, you know? So, yeah. She's like lemon and milk.

So Andy's like, so mirror, mirror on the wall. She raised the shadiest of them all. And Kenny is like, why would you allow anyone to say my ex or 48 and expired or whatever? And Syracas. Aren't you 48? You're 40. No. Oh, you got this one? You got this one? And Kenny is like, no, but even if I'm 58, why can you stand for another woman or whatever? And Shere is like, I'm happy for you. Well, and he's like, well, thank you then.

Yeah, it was kind of a funny like diffusion like, I'm happy for you. I love you. Uh-oh. Okay. I'm fucking Kenya. It's like one minute. She's like, oh, me and Shere have this you know fun rep our day and then she's like How dare you not stand for women

It's like oh my god. I can't even keep up with you people By the way, I just had a funny thought talking about base board because I was watching your episode of I guess last week's episode of trading spaces where they put up They put up base board and it made me think of charire and so saying Baseboard made me think of that episode I thought wouldn't it be amazing if Shire were on trading spaces and you know she'd be super shady about it She'd basically be like okay I'm going to redo someone's closet and someone gets to come in and redo my entire basement Like she's just gonna get the free labor So Kenya starts talking about Ken and how at the at the at the

Nini's gaze and gals white party never forget seafood suare party under the stars balloons and babies elephants for trauma party that like when Kim came in she just started coming at Kenya for truly no reason whatsoever and Kim's like not in No, I didn't and then this was great because then even Cynthia jumped in Cynthia's like you did You did you started coming for him like what do you get Cynthia Bailey mad? Then you know you've really got a problem. I know I mean poor she was like Well, what happened was you made her mad last time so she was going to get you this time and Kim's like, thanks a lot, Portia.

That's what happened. I'm just trying to move it along. So then it's like, Kenya, are you jealous of Kim? And she's like, I don't want those baby kids, baby kids. Why in 2017 would someone want some kids that are just like her? Which is a great question. Yes. And I don't want a husband who's like a valet. He even does her makeup. I don't want a husband without balls. Yeah. She has a husband who works around like her valet, her driver, her wig maker, her wig curler, does her makeup, teapot holder, door opener, dust cover. I mean, while she's like, my husband can't come unless I feed him,

get him a plane ticket, a car, and a whole new closet of clothes, okay Andy? You're all hypocrites on this fucking show. So Kenya goes, I don't want a husband who doesn't have any balls, he's like, my husband has way bigger balls than yours ever will have, and Kenya's like, well, I'm sure you've sucked a lot of balls to know that. I mean, at least like, okay, now, okay. But like, I would never be as quick to say that. I'll be like, yeah, but,

you know, the fact that Kenyans always, she's can like come back. I love that you're giving credit like for high High repartee with you sucked enough balls to know That's like the lowest Like the look yeah, you said balls I'm sorry anybody be me. No, I'm just I'm laughing to myself I'm like I wouldn't have been able to say that like like well my husband has enough had bigger balls and yours would I be like Well your husband's balls are like,

are like miniature tennis balls that you see in a model home, it's like a one that you make with crafts. So they're smaller than normal balls. Because they're like, I have a hamster and he lived in a ball. That's like my terrible comeback. I'll just try and confuse people with childhood stories. Yeah, so Kenyans, you is like you paint your daughter out. You basically told the whole world that your daughter is a hoe.

That's right. It's like okay, okay, that's enough Kenny. That's enough. And Kenny's patting her on the arm. They're like okay, Kenny, calm down now. And then Kim's like I would not say my daughter is a hoe. Chrissy Teigen is a friend. We already text sweetie. I'm like, wow, congratulations. And she's like, your husband is an idiot who turned a hoe into a housewife. So yeah, and Portia's like, this is ugly and that's coming from me.

So Kim just reverts to her old, you know, crazy delusional fight, which is, well, I don't have my show for no reason honey And he's like, and what is that reason? We all want to know. Why would you have a show? Yeah, and she's like really really really really she's like, yeah, what is the reason you got your own show? Let us know and then did it cut to commercial here? I did cut to commercial like I'm not like a deep reason they're deep reason just that she's like a she's like a train wreck and bravo's like We do have a half an hour to fill she's a train wreck and we could probably pay cheaply and and you know Bravo always loves it when it brings when it brings love

You know like like the fact that Kim found a football player and they fell in love and they got married and they had kids Bravo loves that because they like to be like look what we did. Look at the good we do. Let's have a little show about them where that totally scripted and not interesting at all. But Kim thinks it's because it's like well I'm just a riveting personality. I just have full of lots of insights. I'm a mountain mountain. Why's mountain on Game of Thrones? Ask him. So I mean it's like you act like you got it because you're a big shit. That's why you don't eat breakfast.

So, what does that have to do with this? You don't do anything, Tarty, for the party. You don't even have a job. It came like, I sold 15 million in my first year bitch. I've cashed me. I was like, what the fuck is cashmere? Would I guess this her skin's something or another? Which obviously is not working,

considering previous observation about pores. Yeah. So, yeah, she's like, considering previous observation about pours. So, yeah, she's like, I saw 15 million of those this year. I'm like, why do I not believe that she sold 15 million like skews of a product, not skews, but like 15 million units of a product that like barely made consumer awareness beyond whoever is the sad person who bought it. Yeah, well no one believes it. They're like, whatever. See, by the way, that's an example. That's why I'm not as good as Kenya making a comeback. See that? See the way I just struggle to do that. I was like, why would we ever believe she's talking about someone's balls? That's how you have to do. So she's like, I made 15 million and Kenya is like, I'm sure anyone who gets a check

for 15 million, she goes, I didn't get a check. When you make 15 million on a product, you use money to invest in more products, keep it. And Ken, he's like, with some anesthesia into a bottle, you'll sell more. And I'm like, well, hell, yes, you will. I buy that shit. That's actually a bottle you'll sell more. And I'm like, well, hell yeah, she would, I'd buy that shit. That's actually a good business plan, Kenya. See, now Kenya is no great business woman,

but at least she doesn't fake her numbers. Okay, she may fake her shampoo with water, but she doesn't say I sold 15 million of it. Okay, Kim is just like, I sold 15 million and I became the official sponsor of Avengers, Age of Ultron Beauty. Yeah. I'm Thor.

I'm Thor. Now that's more of a cannulae where she's like, I've been in the film and TV industry for 20 years. Yeah. I'm glad that YouTube's included. So Andy's like, so, okay, let's move on to something better. When it pours your call, your your daughter a hoe to your face. Like a man, she's like, hot in here that way.

And Porsche didn't mean it like that. You didn't mean it anyway. That was just trying to just... It was hilarious when we showed that. Yeah. And then the question is, so Kim, why do you talk about Kenya's husband when you're always saying that daughters and husbands are off limits. And Kim's like,

oh, I actually don't remember what her response was. I just assumed there was some variation on that. And he was like, you said my husband was fake. And then Kim's like, oh, yeah, this is when Porsche is like, well, she had it out for you and then when she saw you, she got to you. She's like, thanks, Porsche. Jealousy's a disease.

Get well, bitch. Like, oh, okay, now you're just like, thanks, Borsho. Jealousy's a disease. Get well, bitch. Like, oh, okay, now you're just stealing off gay scram. Okay. So then someone asked the question, which is listen, Kim, it's basically like, why don't you be a better parent and tell Brio to shut up on Twitter? Like, you know, your daughter's out there squawking.

Why don't you, you're the parent here, why don't you tell her to be quiet? And Kim's like, well, she's a grown woman, she's 21. I'm like, but isn't she supposed to be off so yeah is she off limits or is she a grown woman on her own like which one is it Kim Kim margivit that is Kim's arguments in every single scene it's like some hypocritical bullshit she's already done before yeah and she can't win anything you know and she goes she's 21 is successful's successful. So, it's like, what? Being a cautionary tale?

Yeah. And Mimi is like, the rubber apple don't far off, far off the rubber apple tree, whatever. And then, of course, she's like, well, Kim did tell her to stop. And Kim is like, where are you helping her? So Kim has like, fix your double chin next time you go to the blast the plastic surgeon Oh my god, and then Kim scrunches her face and she's got 19 chimps. It's gonna be the most famous picture

Yeah, when she scrunches her face it just turns into an old-fashioned radiator You know Or the Michelin man Or one of those things you play. Yeah, I like one of those like towers you get for babies you know when they have to put like the rings like that you know they're like a wider and they get smaller and smaller that's what look like except all one color or my knee around my knees when I'm like squatting or like those little rings or like in the original legend of Zelda, in one of the dungeons, there are these things

that have that look like that, and if you touch them, they're shield, that's what the previous look like. We're a really bobby carrot. It's like a... No, not that. Or like a jack in the box before it's popped. Mm-hmm, a caterpillar.

Like one of those little caterpillar lights. Or like when you've had a straw and like you take it out of the paper and you got the straw paper, then you don't know to do with it. So you start folding it on itself and you make like a little sort of like foldy thing. That's what her face looks like.

Or when you like bunch down the straw and take it off and then for like a little-d thing, that's what her face looks like. Or when you like, bunch down the straw and take it off, and then for like a little drop of water, and it comes out like a worm, do you ever do that? Or it's actually kind of just like the bendy part. If you have a bendy straw, she's like the bendy part of the bendy straw. Like where you just go, or I make a little noise,

like you should do it with Kim's head and your legs. She's even making that noise. Yeah, and then sometimes you stretch it out and it's like, what, what, whoa, and then you put it, and then you squish it all back together. It's like, that's Kim Zolsey X face. Yeah, pretty much. She's a bit me straw, but with less character. So Andy is like, so candy, what do you feel about everybody being jealous of Kim? And she's like, oh, I want his jealous. She's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no one is jealous of Kim. Look at her. She is a bendy straw. So Andy's like, well, Kim, your friends, Kristian John were asked about the ticket, you know, offering blowjaws for tickets on Watch What Happens Live. And I was like, oh my god, what happened?

Can this get any worse for Kim? Because Andy makes it sound like they're going to be like, I don't know her. Yeah. You know, so you don't even go here or whatever. And Kim's like, well, I didn't say I was friends with John now. Yeah, because we see the clip and John legend. So he, John legend says he agrees with Nini's tweet because Nini, or what Nini said, because remember during the season, Nini said something like, I wouldn't offer up my daughter, like I wouldn't offer my daughter, like, pinp out my daughter for John Legend,

like the music's not that good. And he's like, I agree. I mean, my music is not good enough to pinp out your daughter for, he likely was like, not into that tweet. And Chris is like, well, I mean, I am, friends with her, that's true, but I'm not about to jump into an old Antifa And Chris is like, well, I mean, I am friends with her. That's true. But I'm not about to jump into an old antifight. I'm like, well, congratulations

because Andy just put you right in the middle of one. Yeah. And Andy's like, well, that was uncomfortable. And Kim's like, it was a joke. Real loved it. Real loved it. Yeah. She's super successful doing her no jobs, you know? Geez. So Andy's like, okay, can you go back to your chair? You know, because can you just basically like, your face sucks. I'm just like, can you just keep yelling stuff at can? So Andy's like, okay, you can go back to your ass end of the catch now.

Thanks for that second. Yeah, so she's like, I my work here is done, Andy. So, you know, by the way, speaking of Kim Zoolciac, earlier this week, I happen to notice she posted something. I'm pulling it up right now. She posted something so stupid. She puts up this photo of Briel. There's a photo of Briel just looking again like a porcelain. I don't even want to say a porcelain doll. Like a porcelain... shoe, I don't know. But,

I don't know. But, she's just a photo of her and this is the caption. I was like, this woman is so, she's so codependent and she's doing such a number on these girls. In all the caption she goes, Brieelle, Karina, Beerman. Has a hard-of-gold. She is honest, sincere, loves her family, loves her friends, she is hilarious, she does what makes her happy, she is super protective of her mom and dad, don't mess with her

siblings either, she loves to travel, wave emoji, she loves to shop, she has expensive taste but would give you her favorite shirt quote-unquote right off her back, she doesn't have patience, she is comfortable in her skin, she is a leader and incredibly, I'm incredibly proud of you Who you are and what you stand for? I love you Ellie belly boo I'm like, why are you like giving her like a like this is like an award ceremony or something for breel? It's just it's so bizarre to me that's like that's what they do That's what they do to each other when the other one has their feelings hurt because that's the only way they like live is on that stupid Instagram. So when Kim got attacked, attacked in this reunion, remember all the fallout from that. Braille's like,

my mother, Kim, Deltiac, Bierman Bay, it's the best mother I've ever known in my life. She is strong. She is pretty. She has my hair. Her lips are nice. I love her clothes. She has a great car. And she is my mother. And that's it. I'm like, okay, you two. Yeah, maybe try hugging. Yeah. I mean, I understand, like, you know, listen, there will come a day. I'm sure we're all supposed to say, Rondle, Wadi, Karen, this is a man. You know, I will do that. But like it loses its power if you do it like every three days,

okay, then it just becomes like this weird public neediness where you know, it's like what we said last week talking about how she's like, okay baby, you been there coach, you out of time to come home. We miss you here baby. It's like, you were a girl. You're a poor girl, Briel, has such a psychological like mind fuck put on her. I mean, no wonder why she's like this now.

Yeah, she's a mess. And, you know, yeah, I mean, I was, why, why stop blaming your mother now? Yeah. But, um, yeah, those are like little, little rubber twins. It's like those little clans, you know, when kids have those clans and you punch them and then they come right back up. Yeah. So like punching back clans, except you never even have to hit them. They hit you, you know, they just like, you're like, slamming into you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's means back. It's like, that wasn't us. I never did anything to you. And then it punches you. And then you're like, Hey, and you punch it back. And it's like, why'd you do that? I've been told me it clown. It's like you're literally dressed as a blowup clown right now. Yeah. Like I stand what I stand up

very well. And you're like punch it. He falls out. You just fell over. No, I didn't. I was standing but in a different direction. I was standing on the ceiling. She's like matrixing herself. Oh, what a feeling. I would like to say this. Lano Richie. What a person. He's strong. He's nice. I love his hair. You'll get me shirt. Real Richie. You are a man. You sing good. When you, when you fell in love with that blonde girl and made a clay face of her, that was the most beautiful thing I've done ever seen.

I would like to thank Lionel for adopting Nicole. Nicole Richie, it's like another. They're Nicole Richie. Strong, amazing. So give you a shirt if you ever need one. Joel Benji Madden. Don't know which one of you is married to Nicole. So to both of you, you are two handsome men with Fedoras and you're nice

and you're seeing and you got tattoos and you're talented and successful and you're not just good. You're good Charlotte. Oh my god, those two. So then Andy's like, okay, we've had enough of this just kidding. So Kim, why still like a half an hour left of just like, fashion, Kim, they're just getting ready. They're just propping her up ready for Candid take her licks. It is so good. So it's like, so Kim, why is it okay to say that Mimi's on drugs that isn't that like when phadress suggested that Were when phadress tricked abortion to saying that Todd tried to rape candy or whatever and Then they just show candy space and she's like Just gives us look like oh Jesus. Please not again. Yeah, yeah

Because wait wait remind me it this was it was why is it okay to talk about Neenie being on well First was why was it okay to talk about Neenie being on drugs and Kim is like well I thought she was I thought she was acting weird. She was like it just wasn't a disposition. I remember her Oh This like the Neenie I know and I never said it was street drugs. I'm just saying bitch It's something and then candy makes this noise, okay? I don't know candy said so it wasn't a squeak it was like a So the sound effects from this reunion

And then Kim tries to turn it around and saying like, well, you know, I thought it was disrespectful for Candie to say I had a drinking problem. And I'm like, in my mind, I was like, huh? Because I wrote a question mark in parentheses. That was my way of saying, huh? So then like, so then candy is like, they show a clip of Kim at that sit down with candy. And Kim's like, well, I've, I've, I've, I've brought a draw the man where's this way I can drink everywhere I go I like to drink I think I'm a new old bottle right now so Candy's like oh see now right if you can't go on away without drinking sounds like a drinking problem yeah she was just making a little joke and Candy's like you were the one who

said it and then Candy's, play it back production. So you might want to be careful with that game. You're lucky you're not in the crosshairs this time. Yeah, so the difference is that I as mean you were face and Candy said it behind my back, which makes it worse. And Candy's like, what did I do? Yeah.

And Sheree is trying to clarify it for Candy. She's like, see, the drinking thing is like, when you were accused of doing drugs, you know, when you're trying to use it like Candice. She's like, see, the drinking thing is like, when you were accused of doing drugs, you know, when you're trying to use it like rapin' and doing all that stuff, that's like what the, when you say about the drinking thing and you can't just like, shut down Sherez, she's like, if you can't drive yourself

because you have to drink, sounds like a problem to me. And I ain't changing. It was so hilarious. It was like, she said it. She said it on camera. She's always drinking. It was like she said it. She said it on camera. She's always drinking. It sounds like a problem. Yeah, she's like, don't even start with me.

And I love that that was just a little aside while Kim's still yelling in the background. Yeah. So now Cynthia gets mad. And Cynthia's like, listen, Kim, at this point, I've been here longer than you. Okay, you always want to flap your lips your giant fucking lips about somebody but the moment that somebody wants a flat-fair lip set you you got a problem. Kim's like oh I guess it's all me then I guess it's all me all the time I'm the mean the bad guy I guess. I guess you are so just stop you know she's caught and she's like pulling on her hair and messing with the clean neck she She's eating like 10 halls. Like she keeps sucking on some

kind of goddamn hair. It's the halls I'm gonna excuse the past. Yeah. And the away's this breakfast bitch. So then candy's like, well, now I was gonna try and be cool to Kim this time on the show. And Kim was like, oh yeah, it was all me. And she goes, it is you girl. Don't you see that everyone said it cuz yeah Kim was being the victim. Oh, it's always my fun I was like yes Kim it is it is your fault because now they have transitioned to talking about Candy wanted to lick Kim's box cuz candy cuz Kim had said that she's like she want to lick my box and can he's like I never wanted to do such a thing and she's's like, oh, well, look at me. I guess a lot again.

It's like, yes, you did. So, and then now Candy starts getting mad at Shere, because when Kim told Shere that Candy wanted to basically eat her out, Shere did not bring the bone back to Candy. So Candy's like, why would you not tell me that? And Shere has these like new rules and regulations for a bone collector LLC, where she's like, oh, you know tell me that? And Shrey has these like new rules and regulations for a bone collector LLC where she's like,

oh, you know, I don't have to bring a bone back if I don't want to. That's got, the phone's got to meet my approval. It's got to go through an application process. No. No. Now you know how the internet listens to you now. So like if you're, if you type in,

like I'm searching for an iPad cover, next time you go to Facebook, all the ads are going to be for iPad covers. Yeah. I think that's happening with this show because first they went to Talkspace, you know, which is the phone therapist. We love you Talkspace. And then in this one, they're talking about the bone collector and it goes to commercial and it's McGruff, the crime dog. Oh yeah. And he's in a guyco commercial. How does that make any sense? Can you just hire like dog actors from other ad?

I don't know what it was, but I love that it went from bone collector to McGruffs. Yeah, I'm uncomfortable with you, maligning Shere's future boyfriend. Because you know, that's what you'd be like if she ever comes back, she's like, well, I've been dating McGruff, the crime dog. I realized that crime is bad, so I decided to go the other way. So, um, so yeah, so now there's like all this back and forth over. Did, did Kim now, is Kim is now denying that she said they candy wanted to lick her box or whatever. I think that I, is that what she said? Lick her box?

Yes, and then Andy's like, um, it was on camera and she was now Andy Don't try making me look like a liar and he goes it was literally on camera. What do you want me to do? It's like look at the box and then we see the clip or whatever where she says it and something about Three Sims or whatever and then candy goes. Oh, she's talking about three some Bahamas in the Bahamas She was laying up with some girl while their kids were on the couch DJ Tracy At this point the sort of became so chaotic. I had a hard time following it because now there's like some talk about three Sums talk about DJ Tracy in the Bahamas and the kids in the next room or whatever and

And now Kim was so now Candy was getting annoyed because Kim had said in that dinner, at one point during the season, I think it was with Sheree. Kim had said that when Candy and Todd got together, there was some issue with like a threesome or that Todd wanted to do a threesome. And Candy was getting mad because she's like, we weren't even cool back then. You're talking about Todd, you don't even know, you don't even know. And that's what got Candy mad. And I was like, you know, Kim, you know,

you made it, you've got hit by a nanny, you got hit by a candy, and now you're about to get hit by a candy. And when Candy hits you, it's always gonna be real bad, because Candy will hit you hard. And then that's when Candy gets... With the truth, I mean, that's when that's when can't with the truth

I mean that's the thing. It's like stupid Kim even after Andy says it's on tape and then they show the clip of her saying it She's still trying to dump to the vayan and candy's like Yeah, look exactly she's like a comic fan and you sit here and make judgments. You're a fan Yeah, that's what you are you're sitting on the sidelines watching us at a nobody trying to lick your fucking box and the To me that was like actually probably the best thing because basically candy They've all been trying to defeat Kim with logic or or just shade

But Candy at that point was like no, I'm gonna say it like it is. I'm degrading you you were not or down I'm downgrading you you were not a housewife you were not a friend of you were not of our tier You are the Twitter people you and you somehow got on this show you are a fan and you know normally It's it when you think it's like condescending that like oh like what like being a fan. What's wrong with being a fan? But when she says it to Kim it's great especially because Kim was the one who has been calling Kenya's husband a fan Like oh, he was just a fan and she married a fan and so for a candy to turn that around ultimately and be like no You're the fan you're saying they're watching taking notes and and then coming onto the show and trying to use all the shit that you watch against us when you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Yeah, I mean Kim, because you said I have a drinking problem and then she drinks from her solo cup. I mean hilarious. You literally brought your own drink. And Ronnie, wow, I'm so proud you said solo cut. I'm learning, I'm learning. Yeah. So, okay, the needy goes through all this madness, needy goes. And by the way, to clarify, DJ Tracy was licking your box while the children were looking around. Ha!

Ha! She's like, I was afraid I got lost. I wanna just rewrite that. And because, Cam, did you say you want to lick a box and she's like look I tweeted I was sorry it's all next yeah So then is the video of the ruchus in the bugs or whatever the how they weren't any sast of it Cam has to explain herself so she's like what happened was rare was in the bathroom She took a video and she texted it and her friend said what do you buy a box?

What is that? A bug or something? And then I was going to come in. She said, mom, don't come in here because I'm really scared of bugs. Yeah. And she starts going on the whole moment for Brea. Yeah. Her mother from confronting her worst nightmare.

Yeah, right. So then everyone's, you know, about to go in on her again. And she goes, yeah, but member Nini was making fun of all the medication I needed. And she was like making fun of, do I have a heart palpitation? Do I have cancer, honey? Do I have a stroke?

Do I have this? Do I have that? Yes, I have it all. She's mocking me. And Nini is like, you said you had all those things. Like, so it's like why as well as like, how did she even get here? Because Kim was saying, oh, Nini just wants to validate me. Yes, I have had a things. Like, so it's like why as well it's like, how did they even get here? Because Kim was saying,

oh, Nini just wants to validate me. Yes, I have had a stroke. Yes, I have blood clots. Yes, I've had a stroke in my heart. Yes, I'm on thyroid medicine. I'm like, then why are you drinking out of a solo cup every time you go someplace? Okay.

Ooh, I think that's not healthy behavior that corresponds with in like a heart, a feeble heart and like a problematic thyroid and blood clot as she's in strokes. Like how about you don't drink everywhere and then you can use those excuses? Oh my god, she's just a liar. I mean her first season was her pretend cancer. She is the original pretend cancer of Bravo. Like she made it an actual thing. So whatever. The one thing she said that actually lined up that actually made sense. The only thing that she said that made sense was when Andy said,

why do you still have that video of the car crotches? Like basically we're using for that. I mean, it's just like, well, it was on text. So I just pulled off the text. I was like, OK, I will give you that, Kim. I believe that that makes sense. That's the one thing that makes sense that you've said. Yeah.

So then Andy's like, oh, that made sense. But now let's talk about how Riches are a metaphor for, so then Andy's like, oh, that made sense. But now let's talk about how Riches are a metaphor for racism. And she's like, oh, yeah. Yeah. I can't believe Croy didn't just come out with the stretcher at this point and just take her away. Yeah. So, yeah.

So now, Candy's explaining why it's problematic, et cetera. I mean, I actually didn't know that Roaches could be saying Roaches, that could be problematic, but it's like it's not up to me to say it's not problematic, I'm white. Like I'm the one who asked, if someone says it's problematic, I'm the one who, I'm the one who should say,

like, oh, okay, sorry, I won't do that. It's called taking notes. People have to take notes better, okay? So Candice giving Kim some notes, saying, like, listen, don't say this thing about the Roaches all taking notes people can take people have to take take notes better okay so candy's giving Kim some notes saying like listen don't say this thing about the roaches because you know maybe it doesn't affect a lot of people but some people would take it as a reference to like you know living in the projects and also you have a bad track record of saying shit like this Kim's all see act so you can't like oh yeah well I got all that except

that it was a literal video of bugs. So whatever they were, you know, that thing probably, but, you know, I get what they're saying. It also, guess who else has roaches? Me and they're disgusting and I've tried to murder them with so many things. Yeah. And I do not live in the projects, but I do live in a dumpy little house where there's like an area underneath and I'm mortified. And so I'm like, maddock Kim because I have roaches.

A lot of people have roaches. It's like, make someone feel bad about it is like bullshit. I don't get the impression that I don't think that a lot of people really, I think people did recognize that it seemed a little bit even if, even with the roaches coming, it can be perceived as problematic There was I mean looking in the context of this argument It did kind of feel like Neenie was trying to bring in that element to sort of go at Kim More than maybe was there because like you said it was actually a video about roaches

But again Kim is so stupid that I'm like, you know, I'll give it to Neenie. Give it like just like Kim just it's like Kim just fucks up so hard throughout this whole thing and she's such a fucking liar about every little you're such a fucking liar Camille Yeah, and then on top of that Kim actually was saying Kim I don't know if you heard it but like during the squabbling Regarding the video that Brietta Kim Kim mutters well, she was actually looking out for you Neenie like oh Oh Kim was doing I mean Briela's doing looking out for you Neenie like like oh Oh Kim was doing I mean Priel was doing a public service for Neenie I yeah you're right she is just in roaches being a commercial with you a roach of raid commercial you know we call the grunt dog for that Neenie but grew up so Neenie is like well if her mama her own mama's not going

to say anything to her I'll be her mama and say something to her ass on Twitter or whatever. So Andy's like, okay, so then you show the video at the table and give us like, I didn't show the video at the table. No, I didn't, there's no way I've show that video at the table. And then it comes to a clip of showing the video at the table and laughing around. And it was like, it wasn't like,

at first I thought the clip would be like, look at this video and Like we assume that we always thought we we saw her showing the video But we didn't you know because sometimes that happens, but no we actually see her take the phone Face it towards charade in the camera. We see the bugs on her phone the video It's just it's just like it's astounding how many times Kim got caught in her own lie and still didn't seem to understand Like still didn't like wouldn't it mess up to anything. Yeah, they kept saying it's on film It's like no didn't like she's just Kuku so Porsche is like Well, she raised that she's the bonko that there she doesn't say anything

I think of course. She's not just gonna try and turn it on charay Which I guess is her way of trying to be nice to Kim. I don't know what the hell she's doing but she's like, I don't have to do anything. This is on my import. She's here in the hot seat now. Enjoy it, charade. You're in the hot seat. I love the show. They're over there. They're like, she didn't like live up to her bone collecting duties. I guess they're kind of like, well, the only reason why she's on this show is to spread gossip and she's not spreading the gossip. So why is she here? I think maybe

she's pressured about all of them. They've all been hurt by it So it's like now she does that So Kim's like look I got to go this is too much Like a thousand eight all over again. This is great. You know, he's like having the time of his life Mm-hmm. So it's like what is about the chances of Nini and Kim ever and Nini's like oh and he came ever and he was like, oh hell no. And then he goes, no, possibility. The number of times that Nini crossed her eyes

in this reunion, and she'd be like, woo, I mean they all were making the crazy faces. Like what is happening? So, so Kim's like, I'm leaving, I'm leaving. So she storms off and now she's like I'm leaving. I'm leaving. So she storms off and now she's like bye He takes her stupid solo cup and meaning it's like my privilege. Yeah, I'm taking my solo cup Don't have a drinking problem. I just like holding a cup makes me feel secure

I can't get on air play without a cup and crawl. That's why I call up I have a drink and I have a drinking solution guy So now things start to wind down. It's like so ladies is any regrets and Kenya's like I regret how I acted in Houston And Shre and and she's like but it was a teachable moment and then he's like, oh, I like that Okay, so Shre what have you learned she's like oh? Dynamics have changed. He's like oh oh dynamics have changed but he's poor so the same though and poor she was like I was just coughing and Shirei goes so was I what Shirei made no sense this entire thing and it's like candy what's your regret she's like

say no right I regret that Shire Sri didn't give me a bone about Kim Like that's not really your regret, but I appreciate it. It's funny Yeah, she's like I regret not telling off Kim, but I would have had I had information. Yeah, exactly Exactly, it's empty. It's like well I Learned to leave a I learned to use the leaf bar chat. Yeah, I'm like, okay, great She's like Cynthia's like well my biggest regret is that I won't go for the fresh deal section on Airbnb. So, for us, she's like, this season for me was very humbling.

I'm humbled. And he's like, you're wearing a crown. You're like literally wearing a crown. And me and he's like, I learned about stagecraft and how to deal with hecklers. I was like well Based on how you just reacted to the queen of hecklers Kim's olsiaq. I'm not sure you did Well, at least you didn't tell her I hope you get raped in the new bird. That's true So now they all get some roses from Spain and otherwise known as Ralph's So now they all get some roses from Spain. Otherwise known as Ralph's.

Well, I've got some Costco roses. It's like yay, you get the season. They don't do their customary toast. They're just like touch flowers. That's a wrap. Then all of a sudden this producer comes out and says, I need Andy and a camera. So Andy is like rushed into like the ladies room

where Kim is, she's like, oh, she's having a room. I love just thinking that that's her dressing room, the public ladies room. Yeah, it probably is, you know, searching for roaches. So he's like, hi, how are you? Great to see you. He's a, she's married to a a boy and his name is Croix. She's like, Andy, how could you?

Just not, how much can one person take? There was a one positive question, Andy. No, one positive question. He's like, it wasn't so bad. Yeah, and I like what she's like, how much can one person take? I'm like, well, if we're talking about plastic surgery obviously a lot I'm not gonna stop anytime soon. Yeah bounce your head off the mirror and let's see

And Chris like Chris like you had the power to stop them you had the power to say stop that right now God he really has just become a big woman. I mean at this point. He's got a full face to make up He looks as crazy as her with all the. Not that there's anything wrong with being a woman. Thank you, Ben. It's important to know that woman should not be used. Saying that someone is like a woman should not be used as an insult. But however, a man who has injected himself to the point of looking like a crazy Kim, um, Kim knock off. He looks like a drag. He looks like a drag queen.

I'm saying husk of his former self. A sad husk. Okay. Okay. So anyway, he's just like a big girl. I like that. I'm at the end of the episode after we've called. We've made fun of every aspect of Kim's face and real face. something like no guys stand up for womenhood okay so he's like how can see you could have said now and then he's like well okay then this is where fucking Kim just finally shows what's under all of that call and at this point charay has now entered the room to I would like to mention oh my god so sure she's like charay i'm so mad at you to think up for me and she's like well i just uh uh i don't want to fight out of the people's sites and uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh me pay for that collect all and uh...

uh... just get good so uh... think him's like you know why you have been found one of the right woman to sit on that chair because no one else has the bow of the oh no here she goes i could not believe this even fucking happened what is wrong with this

world just because it was actually it was it was so much, and it actually barely made sense to me. It was just like this weird ranting about there, there was no racism, but now there's racism, and I never was raised. I couldn't even, I couldn't. I was typing so fast, but this is what I got. Put yourself in my shoes. All these African women, African American women surrounded surrounded me and this racism shit is bullshit They owe they owe me an apology and the entire country in apology for this racism shit

They were trying to claim this shit a long time ago and you know it But it didn't catch on because there wasn't social media then so nobody bought into it and you know it and you know it I'm like, okay, wait So they've been calling you a racist for years But there was no one to agree with them on social media. So they're, it didn't really matter. So they're for wasn't true. That's what you say. But now that there's social media, if someone is called a racist, everybody's jumping on that and say, yes, you are a racist, but Kim, I mean, you know, it also, like, you know what else is around now?

10 years of flashbacks, that evidence of you saying problematic shit the entire time. Like, you don't have a pass Kim. You may have black friends, okay, you don't have a pass. I don't have a pass. I have a black boyfriend. I do not have a pass.

You, what you do have is the, is a great opportunity to learn and try to like, broaden your horizons and try to broaden your horizons and try to share with people experiences that you've observed from your black friends and lovers or whatever. But what you don't have is you do not have a pass. You can't walk in and be like,

this is like the hood or whatever. You don't have that, sorry. Well, it's just crazy that that's what she took away. I mean, out of all the things they said, they called her on 80 million lies. And then she's like, oh, well, they're just bullying me because they're all these black ladies against one white lady. And that's not fair.

And I couldn't take that. Nobody can take that. It's like, why isn't it just being killed at by seven other ladies? Why does it have to be any worse that their black ladies trust me? There's plenty of housewives with all white people, almost every other housewives.

And they're just just vicious when they go after somebody. It's like you're an idiot, Kim. How about when you have an entire, if you have all these people saying to you, honestly, in like, when can you describe the Roach thing in very sort of like she was even killed and everything. And they weren't even really saying Kim, you are a racist. They were saying why what she said was problematic.

And of course this one of the larger issues with the dialogue about racism is that a lot of times people just see it, no pun intended, it was a very black and white stark thing. Like when there was actually just, there's gradients of it. And they're saying what you said was problematic. And instead of hearing that and saying oh

Shit, I didn't realize that won't happen again. Sorry about that. I apologize. She takes this. Oh, I'm the racist now Oh now you want to call me racist because convening because you got social media so now everyone can jump on the bandwagon and assault my character I'm like Just say sorry. Just say oh, I didn't mean it that way. I'm really sorry that it came out that way. I was just saying that she had roaches because she had roaches Oh my god, what an idiot. So she thinks she's gonna get people on her side I guess by becoming the victim when she now she just sounds like total trash Yeah, I know she just sounds like total trash. So she's still yelling at Andy and then Andy was like, okay, you know that So she's still yelling at Andy and then Andy was like, okay, you know that

Yeah positive but you didn't have one single positive storyline like everything was Combative, you know, and your entire storyline was combative and so that's why so sorry and then she's like And she grabs him and hugs him because basically And then she's like, oh Andy and she grabs him and hugs him because basically She's never gonna work. I mean, what's she gonna do? She does not hug him. She's a huge racist. Oh, I thought she hugged him. He hugs her. He basically is like basically Andy drops. Hey, I'm Andy Goin watch what happens live and he becomes producer executive Andy And he's like, um listen Kim the reason why there wasn't a positive question is because there wasn't anything positive in your

story, the whole season, it was all combative. By hugs and gone. And Jira just sat there. And by the way, Shirei, sitting there silently while Kim is spouting this stuff, maybe, maybe her response was edited out, but Shirei just sitting there and not speaking up and not trying to correct him was also it felt it felt like a missed opportunity on her on her part to like really. Well, I think that at that point, I mean, Kim was going so crazy and screaming and yelling that her nose she had, you know how you can't wrinkle your nose at certain places with the Botox and fillers and stuff, like it actually, she was so upset, it mooted it all up.

And she had this like knob in the middle of her nose. Did you see it? Like that's how furious she was. I think at that point, you're just like, there's nothing anybody can say. She's just losing her mind and ruining her entire fucking career at that point. It's like, it's like when the boss and super Mario Odyssey, when you knock the boss over and then it reveals it's vulnerability spot and you have to stomp on it. That's like, can she reveal the knob on her nose and that's when you have to go in and

just stomp. Spinning knob. Spinning knob that flies out. Yeah. I mean, what are you going to say? Well, it's not about the. It's the African American women It's like she's not a five year old. She's a fucking adult Making an ass out of herself, and I think at that point she raised just like oh shit. We're both fire

And let me tell you something the producers do not like Kim because they did not have to include any of that They could have let it end But they like you know what we're just going to give this nice, little moment of Kim saying, highly problematic stuff in the dressing room, because we hate her and we wanna drag her too. Okay, we're not gonna let Justine and Kenya and Candy and Cynthia have all the fun, okay? So they did not, they didn't have to include that scene at all.

I mean, you know how much shit, how much problematic shit all these housewives have probably said at all these reunions in all these dressing rooms, but they're like, mm-hmm, we're not gonna like, come get away with this one. So they kept it in there and Bravo signed off on it,

which is weird because, were we saying this before the show or on the show? You know, don't be tardy got picked up. And you would think like, this is a weird, they have a star of some shitty spin-off it's weird that they would they would sort of keep this it's really Sully's one of their stars maybe I don't know maybe they will yeah don't be for Tarty because I'm for one done with Kim I don't need her like she's not funny she's not funny. She's not interesting. She's just like a Terrible example of what fame can do to someone and

She's not even like she's so awful that I love her. She's just awful and I don't know why I don't think Bravo needs her I think that she ruins Bravo's brand. I say kick her down to we kick her down to TLC Oh God, and she'll be there. I mean God Oh God, and she'll be there. I mean, God, hopefully in my 600 pound life, you know, where I'll just be feeding her chick filet and then hosing her down at night. I mean, I would be okay if Kenzolsiac wanted to do like a reboot of Death Becomes her because she's on that path. I just put that on my Amazon Prime watch list. Because it's on there now.

Anybody who has Amazon Prime, you can watch it now. And it's set up. So that brings us to the end of a season. I mean, what a reunion. This was fucking crazy. Yeah. And by the way, this hour was great. And like on other shows, I would say, you know,

she's so fucking awful. But you know what, though, if we didn't have her, we wouldn't have had this great hour of TV. But I'm not going to give her that. I'm not going to give her that. It wasn't because of her that we had a great hour TV. It was because the other ladies brought it. That's why. Well, Kenyann Nene both owe her a fucking bouquet of flowers, a bouquet of chicken nuggets from Chick-fil-A. And I have a, her favorite thing because she really did take a lot of heat off them.

I think one of them had a very good season. And if it weren't for her, they would have been getting yelled out the whole time, you know? And she really took the pressure off. I mean, Jesus, what a nightmare. It was a pretty glorious way to end the season because it was an uneven, not so great season. And even the reunions were only okay,

but to have this ending where they were just all coming out and just being hilarious and just dragging Kim for an hour, it was a good way to end. It was a good way to end. It reminds us that like this show has a lot of life left in it and I'm sure we will be right back on track next season. Oh yes, and next week starts the real housewives of Potomac full recap, so that's been a really good one. Yeah, Potomac is in a really good place right now, so we're excited to bring that back onto the main show starting next week Yes, and then tomorrow we will be back with pump rules Followed by the real housewives of Beverly Hills reunion and then some Southern charm and

Hello, so the Trump Nola and real housewives of New York on Thursday of course Yeah, we'll cover Southern Trump Nola with the regular Southern Trump like we did last week. Jaws everybody. Thanks so much for being here. We will talk to you tomorrow. Bye. Hey, prime members. You can listen to watch our crap and add free on Amazon music. Download the Amazon music app today Or you can listen ad free with Wondry Plus in Apple Podcasts before you go tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at Wondry.com slash survey.