Watch What Crappens - RHOBH: Back to the Couture

Episode Date: June 3, 2022

*Also avail as video on Crappens On Demand http://bit.ly/crappensvideo* Crystal hints at some "dark" (huge word, HUGE) statements Sutton made in the past to get herself out of trouble on this... week's Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and Erika Jayne says that the orphans and widows could be liars. Super classy episode. You can tell cuz people are wearing blazers backwards in the name of fashion. This week's bonus is a trailer breakdown of Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip: Ex Wives Club Find all of our premium bonuses and video recaps at Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Prime members, you can listen to watch what crap ends at free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. Get ready for a double load of Queen of Hearts. It's me, Jujubee, and I return to guide sexy singles through some ronchy blind dates. Cameras off. Voice only. Launching during pride. Queen of Hearts takes Miami by storm, with Daeders' Cuppe from Tampa Bayes, Just Chaz and Brittany Brave to name a few. Follow Queen of Hearts on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, hello and welcome to Watch For Grabbing! So, five guests for all that crap. We love to talk about, oh, new brawze! Hi, I'm Ronnie, guess you're with.
Starting point is 00:00:57 His name is Ben, Hi, Ben. Hey Ronnie, how are you? Good, how are you? Oh, I am so good. Just hanging out here on a lovely Thursday morning with you. Well, congrats on being a homosexual. You did it! We did it!
Starting point is 00:01:13 We made it to our month. It's so exciting. Yeah, I'm gay as hell. Happy Pride, everybody. My nieces keep just pointing at rainbow things and going, That's uncle. I'm like, yes, guys. Okay, it feels like gay mashing at this point. Like, can we go through a store with that you being like, that's gay, like I've been gay your whole lives.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Okay, little brats. They're like, you're gay. I think it's just fun for them to go, you're gay, Uncle, really. Lavender store. Yeah, I've had some very well-meaning straight people really overshoot the mark in their gay pride happiness for me. Like, it happened twice this weekend. I went to a wedding and this one girl. I made some joke.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I was like, well, you know, our month is coming up, but she goes, oh, what month is that? I was like, gay pride. She's, oh, oh, that's exciting. So what are you going to do for it? I was like, oh, no, I'm, it's, I was just joking. I'm not like, it's fine. it's just like it's a nice thing. And she's like, oh, so do you celebrate it often? I was like, oh, I was like, I was like, I regret never joking about gay pride. And I was like, I was trying to tell her, like it's, thank you, but she was like, really earnestly very much asking me about,
Starting point is 00:02:17 like what do you do for gay pride? What meals do you cook for gay pride? What do you think are activities? Yeah, yeah, it's, I mean, I don't know. You think old gays for their service, that's what you do. Yeah, yeah, it's, I mean, I don't know. You think old gays for their service. That's what you do. So you're welcome, Jim. As you should.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Always thank old gays for so many different reasons. Yeah. Thank them for their service. They're toils and troubles in the past. But for real, thank you, older gays. And you know, to the younger ones, you're welcome. I really didn't have to do much because the older gaze beyond us kind of did everything already.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I just showed up and ate the dinner at the party. So, but thank you older gaze. Love you. Mean it. But seriously, I say everything I can ask whole, but I do really mean it. Okay. So today is what you work through this.
Starting point is 00:02:58 I'm missing a sincerity chip where you want to try to be sincere. I can't like my voice will won't do it. We've been doing this for too long. This is what happens. You put two queens on a podcast for 10 years and the end we just always sound like we're sarcastic about something. There's no more gay pride than this podcast. There's nothing more gay pride than that. That's for sure. So everybody, welcome to the show. Today is Crappens on demand. Hi, you can see my new pen top on my Apple Pins. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:03:29 How big is that? Talk about gay pride. I went off brand and brought a new top on Amazon. Listen, if there's any month to celebrate tops, this is the one. They're in short supply, Lord knows. So yeah, so I got this, I don't even use this really. I was just using this today to cut crystal and Sutton's head out for the episode
Starting point is 00:03:52 art for this, but that's really the only reason I have this $9,000 pencil, okay? So thanks. You know, Apple, Apple Pride Day. I was thinking about, I was thinking about after this actually doing something crazy, purchasing my first wearable in the form of an Apple watch. Isn't that crazy? Am I joined the Apple Watch World, speaking of Apple accessories? And now you getting a little capper, a little topper for your, for your pen makes me be like, I can't hold back anymore.
Starting point is 00:04:19 You know, like when, we have this effect on each other, like when you get something, then I'll, I want to get something and vice versa, I think vice versa. Maybe I'm just the one who follows. No, it's mostly me who does it with you. I count it with you. I count it with you. So that was like what just put me over the top. Like I'm gonna get an Apple Watch today.
Starting point is 00:04:35 We're on it, got a thing for his pen. I'm gonna get an Apple Watch. I've had an Apple Watch for years and you've never gotten an Evo. I've always been like, I don't really, I'm not into watches. I mean, I have a phone. I have a cookbook.
Starting point is 00:04:45 You say I'm a watch, and now you're gonna get one. But you know what, you should get one. I'll give you mine if you want it. I can't with that thing. It's so judgmental. I'm sick of being called fat. I'm sick of telling me I'm about to die. I know I'm about to die.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Do you think I don't know? I live my lifestyle. I love it. It's a great way to go. I'm gonna die with a two pounder of M&M's my lap, you know, and like an eye-bigger, like you should've choking on an eye-bigger or something, just being so lazy. I don't care, Apple, leave me alone,
Starting point is 00:05:11 could your fucking activity rings out of my life? And if you tell me to breathe one more time, I'm drowning you. Say. Well, that's why I'm gonna get it, because I just, I need to, I need to up my exercise. So I'm just gonna, I'm investing in all the little pieces of technology
Starting point is 00:05:28 that help you get this. Of the bells and vessels, Trimagia. All I need all the nagging I can get. So my friend was basically like, get an Apple watch so that we can join me and our friend Nick and we can like share our, we can basically share our results together and then I can feel shame. Like if I'm gonna be, if I can add an element of competition,
Starting point is 00:05:46 then I'll be better about it. Well, shameful competition. Yeah, I mean, really does. Yeah, shameful competition is healthy. I'm in America. So, in real housewives, what's based off of? Yeah, speaking of, here's real housewives of Beverly Hills with the shamefully competitive coverage
Starting point is 00:06:03 or it's starring. Interesting episode, this real housewives of Beverly Hills, liked it. The backward blazer thing that Sutton had going on haunted me. I thought about it online. I was like, but why? And then that guy on Project Runway made backward blazer dresses,
Starting point is 00:06:19 and then they were like, you stole that because I saw that on the runway. And I was like, is this the guy he stole it from? Or did this guy steal it from somebody and did he steal it from the project runway guy who stole it from somebody else? There's a lot of backwards blazer stealing going on of that's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I mean, I think it's like it's Celine Dion or no one, right? Like I feel like Celine Dion locked down that look and no one else should be trying it. There, I said it. That's it, it's a Celine look, it feel like Celine Dion locked down that look and no one else should be trying it. There I said it. That's it. It's a Celine look. It's Celine Dion. Does anyone all try to dress like the Mona Lisa? I don't think so. Is there anything more gay pride than you standing up for Celine Dion? No, just fine. Thank you. Celine wins. Thank you. Celine wins. So let's see. Here we are. Couch rolling around in her calf tan in her opening. I don't know why I wrote that down. It was just the first thing that stood out to me.
Starting point is 00:07:07 You know what? Let's, let's note, let no be annoyed at her twirling in our captain because she did something that annoyed me. And it was so small. And I was like, I can't believe this is annoying me, but it kind of really annoyed me. And I don't know if I can fully express it, but maybe if I like work it out with you,
Starting point is 00:07:21 we can get to the root of it. It bothered me that one of the first things we saw, she was cracking like many eggs, like eight eggs into a bowl, because she was going to make a big thing of eggs for everyone, like an omelette or scramble, like a mass scramble. And then it cuts to her, putting in a curing pod into her machine. And for some reason, it bothered me that she had like the infrastructure to make a mass amount of omelets, but only one at a time coffee. And I was like, you're rich.
Starting point is 00:07:51 You should have a French press. You're rich. I didn't make group communal coffee, just communal eggs. Well, yeah, it's, yeah, I mean, it's not, by the way, French presses are not for rich people. They're like very affordable. I'm just saying, like, you have money to spend. You can spend a little money to get a French press or a coffee pot or something, it just felt like,
Starting point is 00:08:10 oh, you do like, and this is not against curings, a hundred percent not against curings, but I'm just saying it really bothered me that she didn't have the ability to make bulk coffee with her bulk eggs. You forget how often you've had a curing for a while. I tried to make coffee like three times and people are over and I failed every time.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Like I just became a total idiot. I don't know how to do. I want a special snowflake coffee. I want my own little thing. Just make me my own. I don't want to drink a beautiful coffee. Yeah, I want snowflake coffee. I want my own pod that cost way too much.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Well, you know, here I guess here's the, I think I'm getting now as I talk it out, I think I'm getting to the root of my issue, which is that I feel like Kyle with that big glass sort of like ornate bowl and those eggs, you know, in the context of last season, I think she's trying to fashion herself as the hostess of them with the mostest.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Like, guys, I can make really good eggs, you know, like she's like, I'm gonna make eggs for everyone. So sheess of them with the mostest. Like, guys, I can make really good eggs. You know, like she's like, I'm gonna make eggs for everyone. So she puts on the airs, and this is in my head, I realize, but I'm just assuming she's putting on the airs that she's gonna make breakfast for everyone, and yet she's not capable of also making coffee for everyone.
Starting point is 00:09:17 I don't know, like, I need to add, it only bothers me because I feel like she probably presents herself, like she's an amazing, like breakfast maker, you know? Yeah, like with her salmon. She's phony, she's phoning it in with her curings. Wow. Just like the end of the case.
Starting point is 00:09:34 No, none of us knew we needed. I feel like David Wetzesbund should have made this show. Strathane. No, Kelly, David E. Kelly. Yes. He could be telling Michelle Fife for over dinner one night. You know, I'm really in for a new kind of show. People freaking. They're getting good breakfast. Hospitality skills. Okay, so we are in La Quinta. Oh, and you know, just people playing golf, wondering why there's dog shit in the hole.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And we see ducks, you know, ducks, my favorite thing on Bravo, my favorite side character at the ducks, even though they're assholes in real life, and we should all eat them. And everything's brown. So Kyle, Kyle with her gold eye things, making eggs and coffee, I feel so left out of the eye thing. I've tried to buy like five of those Kyle under eye things, making eggs and coffee. I feel so left out of the eye thing. I've tried to buy like five of those Kyle under eye things and none of them fit because my face is too big.
Starting point is 00:10:29 So they just look like little teardrops like I've been to prison and killed somebody like on the side of my eyes. Can't you put like two on each eye? Well, but then I have two little pointy things in my eye and then I get the medicine for I get the tea tree oil or whatever the fuck's in them in my eyes and I'm all red and crying. Oh, the things we do to have
Starting point is 00:10:48 faces like this. I mean your face looks amazingly smooth and buffed right now, so I don't know what the it does. It does. It's sweet. What does it have a grocery time? It's capable. It's not. Yeah, it's not. So Kyle, dropping the pretense just calls me gal from the main house, to bring over four bloody marries and form a mousse is. And that makes me like Kyle a little bit. Well, it's both dropping the pretense and also humble bragging, that she can just do that.
Starting point is 00:11:23 You know, that straight up bragging. There's nothing else. Yeah, I love a straight bra. I don't like humble bragging that she can just do that, you know that straight up bragging. There's nothing yeah I love a straight bra I don't like humble bragging. I like straight up bragging I like Diana kind of bragging like What a star of disgusting star to so girls I'm like you just talked about how you grew up she literally she said a worse I'll get oh, you know those are her words like you're talking about growing Oh, yeah, yeah, oh, sorry like suit. I'm like, this is her words. I get like every word wrong
Starting point is 00:11:51 Literally, I was one of them was like World War two one of them was like 1992. Yeah, I don't know, but um You've been like you can go to a store shut up You're like I'm suddenly allergic to Oh Just kidding I will continue to do so Like I'm suddenly allergic to that. There's dust, there's dust in the store. Oh, I can't believe it. I can't believe it. Oh, I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it.
Starting point is 00:12:18 I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. I can Garth said, I couldn't sleep oink! And Garth's like, what, well why didn't you just knock on my door? Dorita's just not. Dorita's like, well that is so selfish, I would never ever ever ever ever ever ever do that.
Starting point is 00:12:39 So she's just talking about how she just has all these anxieties and fears now and she just wants to put them behind her, et cetera. And so then, Rina, this is sort of like a sad foreshadowing moment where Rina is like talking about how she really wants to read to talk to her mom because her mom survived massive trauma as was detailed a few seasons ago, because her mom was attacked by a guy who ended up being a serial killer, which is totally crazy. So Rina wants to read to talk to Lois to learn about how she moved on in her life. But, you know, we unfortunately know how what's coming up on that front.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Yeah, so that's super sad stuff. And then Kyle is having breakfast with Crystal and Diana. And Erica, oh, yeah, so they're not coming basically. Everyone's like, where are they? Where are they? And they're going to have breakfast somewhere else. So Kyle's like, well, you know, did anybody talk to Christa? Anybody talk to her? Gressel's like, yeah, I was texting with her. She just wants to go home. She's very, very triggered in a very unsafe space. So it's just time to go home. So it's just time to go home. And yeah, I grew up so I was like, you know, they're both like Kyle is saying that there must be something
Starting point is 00:13:51 that triggered this reaction. There must be something more going on. And she goes, you guys triggered it. What do you say? I'm confused at. I know. How much like, and so Kyle's like, I mean, maybe she felt we cared more about to read
Starting point is 00:14:04 than we did about how she felt last year, even though like I said, kind of my phrase the 2022 apples and oranges. Apple's oranges, Apple's oranges. It's like Kyle, yes. I like that Kyle proposes that like it's such a wacky idea. Like, oh, maybe she thinks that we just cared more about Doreen. I'm like, yeah, that's actually exactly right. That you guys, like, when you brought up something,
Starting point is 00:14:29 you guys treated her like she was crazy. And now, even though it's a different situation, you guys are like, it's that you guys showed much more empathy to someone else. Yeah, I don't 100% agree with that, but we'll get to that when we get to the kuchua show and they start talking about all this stuff. So Eric is like, well, the bar view,
Starting point is 00:14:47 she was covered in the fifth sun. And when you guys didn't validate her feelings, she got very upset. And she's like, oh my god, we're like emotional detectives. So Ding Dong and the club has come with their drinks and stuff and then Garthell calls Crystal on speaker of course and sits away from the girls, but close enough where they can all hear it still Yeah, and she's like, so how are you doing? Oh, and Crystal's like, I'm really great because oh, you're being facetious
Starting point is 00:15:19 Well, do you want to talk? Do you want to come by and Well, do you want to talk? Do you want to come by? And she, but ourself's basically saying, like everyone's really worried about her. They don't know what triggered Crystal, which is funny, because Crystal said it like five times last night. I think the thing, like reason why I'm like, a little bit more on Crystal's side about this,
Starting point is 00:15:34 is not so much that I'm on Crystal's side, it's more like, they're acting like they just can't even see her. So like, her side is crazy. And I'm like, it's not so much that I agree with her, but it's more like, you guys are being so rude, just like not even like trying to understand her. Like, and that's what her whole issue is. They don't even try to ever understand her. So. Not to relitigate with. But I mean, I understand her feeling. Someone came into her room and didn't knock and she has body image issues and was mortified. And then the lady didn't even apologize. She acted like it was no big deal.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I get that. So I get the feelings, even though I don't agree with that, I don't know that I would cry about it and wrote a separate single person in the cast and have separate scenes about how that happened. But I think the problem was that Crystal was just saying, it's so creepy.
Starting point is 00:16:21 I mean, why would she do that? I mean, it's just like she, I was, yeah, that was, she made her, she made it. It's certain sound like I mean, why would she do that? I mean, it's just like she I was yeah, that was she made her she made It's certain sound like some fucking pervert remember when Kathy Hilton was like oh look at Sutton Tommy binoculars over there What did she call her? Yeah, she did like that's of it, but they did wind up focusing more on the fact that she said violate than what she actually felt. That's what Crystal did. Instead of just saying, listen, I have these feelings.
Starting point is 00:16:55 This is why I have these feelings. She's like that perverted, creepy woman. She had to my room and said, what are you doing? You know, what's wrong? What are you doing in here or whatever? So, Crystal, sorry, I'm not going to just suddenly jump to Crystal side because that was my original opinion and I'm sticking to it. And Crystal does the same fucking thing later in the episode with one of the biggest words we've ever heard on Real Housewives of Ever Biggest Wife. world. I actually well we'll get to it but I think the situations are apples and oranges so that word is so huge.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Somebody is going to hang it on their guest room wall. Okay, somebody's going to put a voice box in it so that big word can sing like a singing bass. It's that big of a word. That word is so big it's going to be forever associated with photography and how people develop photos. So basically, she's like, can you just come over, et cetera, and she's like, listen, they didn't realize you were holding on to all this stuff
Starting point is 00:18:01 from last year, just come and clear the air or something, you can all go home and feel like you're okay. And then of course, talk about how ridiculous you're being behind your back for the next few episodes. Come on, give us something. She's like, everyone's worried and they didn't know what triggered you.
Starting point is 00:18:15 She's like, they don't know what triggered me. She's, yeah, they just don't know. Is it that you don't feel validated? Is that right? You don't feel validated. Everyone's listening. And so then outside outside Erica's like, Hey, man, can I be ready to touch your mouth? I'm like, don't let air touch anything. Okay?
Starting point is 00:18:31 You break it. You buy it poor person. And I thought you would appreciate this moment from Erica. When I one point bambi's outside, I'm just barks in Erica's little bambi. We're not giving you the ball. I was like, surprisingly, Erica is the one who's going to start the BAMPY intervention for, you like Kim Richards and the spray pain isle of a home depot. Come down, man. So then Kyle, Kyle is like now wants to fan the flames of Erica being mad at sudden or maybe re exacerbate Garsell and Erica cuz she's guys Can you believe it's been a year since we were last here in Lake Hinta like like wow Erica?
Starting point is 00:19:11 You are like this is kind of a variation of my favorite phrase Night and days with like a night apple in a day orange Like yeah my life was in shambles and car goes goes, I mean, it was just right over there, right on that sofa. And Eric was like, I hate that so far, I hate it. But I feel not in day Kyle, because when I was here a year ago, I was just, he was crushing. And I'm so glad we moved past a shit, man.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I would also like to thank you all for accepting me for the wild animal that I was. Oh, yeah, so much has changed now. And then we see a clip of Erica's greatest hits from last year Are you gonna like the town the fucking story? What oh what So this is my turn I'm worried about my mother fucking reputation Oh, you know what? Oh, what?
Starting point is 00:20:06 You know, when you go through something like this, it's all uncompassant. It's every part of your life. It's when you leave, you marriage, you find answers. And it's more effective when you say, it really fasts all of a sudden, you know? And you finally get over to, you get across that bridge a little bit
Starting point is 00:20:19 and you can at least catch your breath. You're on a bridge, and you got over the bridge. And I'm far from done, but I can catch my breath on a bridge. A bridge breath I call it breath breathing. I was back in the work order. Everybody I really was. I like thinking that call. I was I wish them a bridge. I wish them a bridge. She's so ridiculous. Like a bridge over troubled snow banks in Pas past. I'll lay me down, bitch. So she talks about how she's been dragged through the mud for a whole year now for something that she didn't do
Starting point is 00:20:54 and something that didn't happen repeatedly. Like babe, I don't know what you did or didn't do, but it happened. Not money was there, you spent it. All the paperwork is out there. I don't, all you have to do is follow Emily Baker or Ronald Richards on the Twitter if anybody's curious. McGruff the crime dog. I mean, honestly, it's just literally a car. Jessica Fletcher. Absolutely. My answer to it doesn't even do that anymore and she could tell you.
Starting point is 00:21:18 The guy at the end of like those those TV shows in the 80s who was typing and through the paper up into through the paper up into this in the ceiling and it comes down and makes a scene. Okay, that guy knows. Ubu. So she's just sit-knows. Yes, he was sitting. Oh, good job. Never heard in Kraus House by the way. Never. So no. Kersel is... By the way, Kersel's sitting on the couch with her drink just sitting on the couch. Next to her. Not on the coaster or a table or anything. And I was like, Garcell gives no fucks, okay?
Starting point is 00:21:49 That's why I love Garcell. And I loved her response. You immediately just goes, well, I think one of the reasons, though, why you were dragged with mud is because you didn't show any compassion. You didn't, it's a big, it's, and she's like, you didn't show anything like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:22:04 I hope this really didn't happen. Like thank you, Garsell. That's what really needed to be said. And I'm just glad that she just boom, just said it. It's been said multiple times, but Erica just keeps trying to rewrite history. And then Kyle starts playing with her nails and looking at everybody like,
Starting point is 00:22:19 can you believe Garsell? She said that. And Garsell's like, yeah, I mean, you didn't say, like, you didn't show like, oh my's like yeah I mean you didn't say like got you know you didn't show like oh my god I was just did or I hope this didn't happen and Erica goes but I really hope it didn't just yeah but you didn't say that but I couldn't say it why can't you say it no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no Oh, and an illegal situation like that. Everyone counts. We weren't even sure that there were people that weren't paid. Oh, it's.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Every word counts, but she's perfectly fine telling a story of let's like literally like a narrative and oral history of Mario Kart of Tom driving up a mountain and crashing and there's a snow storm and cars flipping over and he's found in the bank. So those words are okay to say. Those will not be used against you, even though they're the craziest words. But all the other words are not allowed to be said.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Also note that no one in this moment said, well, Erica, I really wish you just would say things because otherwise we're thinking the worst things ever. Say something, Erica. Yeah, right. So then we get a Uts and Kyle pulls her head back and even Reyna looks at her like, what the fuck? And then we get a lower it's it goes, it's like, wow, they pulled out the secondary. So crowd was like, wait, so you're saying we don't know for a fact that these victims weren't paid.
Starting point is 00:23:45 America goes, that's right. I'm to read it's like, let me give you, let me just clarify this so that way it can go into the promos for this episode. There's a chance they could be lying. Is that what you're saying? G. Well, yeah, basically, Garcell, she says, yes, there's a chance and Garsell says no way and Erica goes yes Why and everyone's just so uncomfortable because this is low even for Erica and I mean Erica has been this is a real reach on the already ball level. I mean this is low even It's almost as low as that secondary. Sssss.
Starting point is 00:24:28 So Garsell is like, she's like, I mean, these victims are regular people. Why would they be coming after a Tom? I mean, why would they be bringing lawsuits if they were paid? They would just keep on going, living their lives. And the Erica does the whole, like, well, we still don't have all the facts.
Starting point is 00:24:44 It's like a conspiracy theory 101, right? And Garsell tells us and it also snows in Pasadena. And then we get up, Boller, the music. The music was killing me this time. So just so everybody knows today, Tom was officially or yesterday, I guess, Tom was officially disbarred and they were ordered to pay 2.5 million and just one of the lawsuits. So basically, yeah, there is proof that they weren't paid. You fucking nitwit. How dare you? Like, what the fuck is she? Like, how dare this woman? I mean, she is quadruling down. Yeah. She really is, she doesn't, she doesn't evolve.
Starting point is 00:25:29 That's the thing. Erica, like, she doesn't evolve her act and she doesn't evolve her, her, her. Like, she doesn't realize like, Erica, there's a way, there's been like, you've had so many exit ramps from this craziness highway. Like, where you could have just like fixed this and one back the hearts of so many exit ramps from this craziness highway like where you could have just like fixed this and One back the hearts of so many people like why why you just why you saying on this highway But instead of a gym Orphans and widows everybody knows they like you ever seen those commercials with kids with flies on their face
Starting point is 00:25:57 Those are animatronic. I don't even believe those Sally's brothers that lie and mother fuck They're all lions Erica Strugglers that lion mother fucker. They're all lions! It's a home Erica. Jeez. It's time for commercial. It's time for... Celebrity beef, you never know if you're just gonna end up on TMZ or trending on Twitter or in court. I'm Matt Bellasife.
Starting point is 00:26:19 And I'm Sydney Battle. And we're the host of Wonder e's new podcast, Dis and Tell. Each episode explores a different iconic celebrity feud, from the build-up, why it happened, and the repercussions. What does our obsession with these feud say about us? We're starting off with a pretty messy love triangle between Selena Gomez and Justin and Haley Bieber, a seemingly innocent TikTok of Selena talking about her laminated eyebrows.
Starting point is 00:26:44 It snowballed into a full-blown alleged feud. But it doesn't seem like fans are letting up anytime soon. Despite both Selena and the Bieber's making public statements denying any bad blood. How much of this is teen jealousy and lovers quarreling, and how much of it is a carefully crafted narrative designed to sell albums? Follow this and tell wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondering Out.
Starting point is 00:27:10 The crap ends commercial. So, Ericka is saying, well, you can let anything in Alaska and Rina says, and you can sue anyone for anything. And Ericka is telling us, oh, there was a time I walked past the tablood and I would see my face multiple times. And you know she'd love saying that. Part of her is like, yes, scar. And I thought there's bad stories sticking.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Why? Because people wanted to be true. People who have no unclean of the trees, they don't want the truth. All they want is for Erica to fail. And that is not happening. Unless she gets robotic, I like Erica the is for Erica to fail and that is not happening. Unless she gets robotic. I like Erica the robot. She's like, that is not happening. Emma, I don't care if it looks real, not like that. But it's not like that. Emma.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Well, so then Crystal shows up. And, uh, and Erica still, she's still talking. She's like, I can't admit to something I don't know happen. I mean, the best way I can serve those who've been rightfully wronged is to roll up my sleeves and comply, which is what I've done. And one way I've done that is to introduce oxymoronic phrases like rightfully wrong. Yeah. If you're gonna accuse Thomas something, accuse him of rightfully wronging people. I know, fuck is she doing? So she's like, and I'm gonna roll up my sleeves and that's just what I've done.
Starting point is 00:28:32 That's what OJ Simpson said also after he was acquitted by the way. He's like, I'm not gonna rest one minute till I find out who is the real killer of Nicole. And so that's like apples and OJs. That's like trying to make OJ out of apples. So Crystal comes in and she gets the full Rina red carpet. Crystal's here!
Starting point is 00:28:59 Crystal! That's the I am about to try to make you feel like shit sound, but I'm gonna make you feel comfortable while I do it. So then we cut over. Did you catch Erica going? Oh look it's the lady of the night. The hour, the lady of the hour. I don't want to spread any more of those prostitution room little sarad here. It's a lot of the hour, everybody. Don't believe everything you read the tabloids. We're down on the cover of. Often. Only believe certain rooms you hear, but none of the ones involved in me.
Starting point is 00:29:38 So then we go to Sun's bungalow and Diana shows up and there's like a huge spread. I don't know. Were they planning on serving breakfast for the cast there and there was a missed memo. there's like a huge spread. I don't know where they're like planning on Serving breakfast for the cast there and there was a missed memo. It's like a huge spread for two people No, and she knows it. She knows that Diana's not gonna eat it That's just something you do to another rich person so games he's game, you know She's like, well, they're welcome. I'm rich too Okay, great. Want to sit on my couch? I wouldn't buy this either You know when you are rich and you're doing the whole game,
Starting point is 00:30:05 these game thing, you actually get some game. So here's some venison we put on the table too. So Diana's. Yeah. So Diana's Diana like comes in and she's like, oh my god, this is such a big spread. Why do I? I'm surprised there's nothing here. I'm allergic to. So, uh, certain then Sun says, you know, I have to say I haven't eaten meat in so long, but there's something about bacon that I cannot resist.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And Diana's like, bacon eating vegetarian is not a thing. Doesn't exist. And she gives her a squint. I'd heard I'm better than you smile, squint. Like she figured it out. Yeah, so something's like, I mean, what happened last night? I was like, wait a minute, where are you crying now? Because it came from somewhere different in the corner, you know, I don't even know anything was over there. And then suddenly triggered right in the corner over there. What was that? And Diana's like, it is because everyone has different triggers.
Starting point is 00:31:08 You know, some people are triggered to bake on some people, are triggered to pour people. You know, triggers. Face lick. Face lick. Yeah. And it sounds like, well, what triggers you? And she goes, well, you know, when someone make fun of my accent, you know? And it's like, oh, you and she goes well, you know when someone make fun of my accent You know and so I was oh well that is really low
Starting point is 00:31:29 Yes, and when people say stuff about my country and I go I go with point at it on the map there point at the Don't I'm like oh? Okay, like I mean you shouldn't say it you generally shouldn't say mean things about people's countries I suppose but I love that like her responses point at it on the map and generally shouldn't say mean things about people's countries, I suppose, but I love that like her responses, point out that it's at the map, and then you can say mean things. Yeah, I can literally not even talk about states in America. If that's the case.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I can't make fun of anything. I'm ignorant, okay? Now, you can't tell me I have to be smart to make fun of things, okay? That's not fair. That just leaves a lot of us out in the cold, okay? I was raised in the American educational system. Don't do this to me.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Yeah. But yeah, when she says, when people make fun of my accent, I was like, well, but what about when we do it really terribly? Is that okay? Like, can we write in a letter being like, can we still do it?
Starting point is 00:32:21 Because I'm still gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it. We're not make fun of it. We're we're making tribute to it to be honest Ladies hate both of us We're not making any fans on Beverly Hills anytime soon. I'll just say that much. Yeah So certain yeah, she's asking her what triggers her and she's like, you know when people say it's a rantship I'm like, well, how fun.
Starting point is 00:32:45 How fun. Not only America, but Beverly Hills. Yeah. I mean, look around. So she tells us that she grew up in Bosnia and, uh, because suddenly, it's like, well, I, I mean, I can handle confrontation, but I just don't like screaming. I really don't like screaming. And she goes, well, I grew up in Bosnia unless you shout, nobody hears you.
Starting point is 00:33:03 I used to be aggressive, really aggressive, scally, scally aggressive. And, suddenly, I'm like, well, it's because of where you came from. But isn't that doing what she just said? I know. I also hate, I literally hate when people generalize the plot, like just sit like cities and countries. It's like very convenient ways. Like, oh yeah, you're not in Bosnia unless you shout, no one hears you.
Starting point is 00:33:28 I guarantee if you walked down the streets and Bosnia, and you're not gonna hear, hey, shut up, give me some fruit, you know, like it's, people know how to talk in Bosnia too. Like people understand how to talk places, and I just think it's so funny. And like even we're gonna talk about it to buy it later today, they even said it on real hot shots to buy a few times times like this is a city where you don't get anything unless you speak up
Starting point is 00:33:49 I'm like yeah, that's also probably in most places you have to speak up to get what you want I just not like there's a city where you just walk up to you in a mall and hand you a mansion It's the craziest thing You know there are certain cities where you say, I mean, what I really never mind, I don't want to say what I want. Oh, I received it. Thanks. God, I love this city. I love that the city works that way. Thank God I didn't speak up. Thank God I was like, Emma Thompson and remains the day. Speaking of, not really speaking of, it has nothing to do with him at Thompson, it remains
Starting point is 00:34:25 at the day. But I hope that Diana turns out to be from like a small town outside, you know, Tucson. Like, yeah. I hope that her whole story is alive. I don't think it is, but I hope it is. It won't be the best twist. Yeah. Or I'm also down for someone like an Aviva Dresher who just comes in with a wild conspiracy theory like that and just hounds Diana with it like I read
Starting point is 00:34:49 My my agent told me that she is really from Shiboygan, okay? And she just goes with it. Yes, so she tells us her some more of her backstory She says that she's someone who grew up in the ghetto and she's like, I used to be very explosive, very angry. And I have tried to learn empathy, but at the same time, you don't get multiple chances with me because first time, shame on you. Second time, shame on me. And she says it in a way, like, she's like, this is a really cool phrase. I just invented She's like, it was a very self-satisfied smile. Like, did I just blow your mind right now? No. And so, it's like, well, with these women,
Starting point is 00:35:32 you're gonna have to give them more than one chance. Okay, you're gonna, one chance isn't enough. And she's like, okay, maybe three. She's like, you're gonna have to give them several. Several chances. Yeah, and by women, I mean me, of course. So then we go back to Kyle's place, where Bambi is like holding a knife to some peacock
Starting point is 00:35:53 on the golf course, asking for a ball to bite on. So Rina is like, Crystal, let's talk about how you felt and how you're feeling. Okay, let's talk about that. Crystal's how you're feeling. Okay, let's talk about that. Crystal's like, I feel like I'm in some weird therapy commune right now. I'm like, don't worry, none of us are laughing.
Starting point is 00:36:13 I'm sorry, would you say? None of us are laughing, don't worry. Oh yeah, but we just wanna understand how you feel, Crystal, how do you feel? Ah! And so Crystal's like, okay. Now this is, Crystal pulls how do you feel? Ah! And so, Crystal's like, okay. Now, this is, Crystal pulls out my mom thing in this episode.
Starting point is 00:36:30 She does it like 10 times. She's like, now let me be clear. We are gonna have this conversation today and then we're never gonna talk about it again. Everybody understand that? And they're like, okay. And she's like, music people, do you understand that? And they're like, oh, thank you. It was very dramatic, but I felt like she was actually
Starting point is 00:36:49 entitled to say that because one thing that does happen is that this is the sort of thing that Kyle brings up over and over again, and then Kyle tells the whole cast, like, it's just like she keeps harping on it when it's Kyle who brings it up over and over again, and then Crystal gets blamed for it, so I think that's kind of why she's doing that. True, but I hate to stick up for Kyle,
Starting point is 00:37:06 but I have to in this situation. Crystal, you brought this shit up. This was you. You brought this up in the middle of somebody else's drama. So here comes Crystal bringing up last year's shit that nobody cares about anymore, bringing it into this year in the middle of someone else's trauma story.
Starting point is 00:37:21 And now she's mad that they're talking about it again. I mean, really? So Doree, it's like, we'll take your time, my darling. I've suffered from trauma, so I understand now. People need... DORING. Dig it. And so, Crystal is like choking up. She's like, um, um, sorry, this is the same response I had when Rob told me he wanted to dig 25 feet into the ground to make a golf range in the basement. Um, um, um, and he tried to cry. Simba's dad died. Simba's dad died.
Starting point is 00:37:55 So I'm Simba. Yeah. My dad's dad. Simba, limking to makes me cry because it was so bad. Okay. What was upsetting me last night was um sorry this is kind of like my apples and oranges is to say I'm a lot um when I was struggling last year with Sutton I was telling you guys how I felt and I felt like there was a massive
Starting point is 00:38:16 campaign to negate how I was feeling and then we have flashback from it. Violate is a strong that's a strong word Violate Violate but you said Violate Violate Violate Viol. Violate is a strong, that's a strong word, violate, violate, violate, violate, violate, violate, violate, violate, violate. So Crystal is like, it's not easy for me to pour my heart out to you guys when all I'm being told is a word that I'm using is too strong. Like the focus shifted that like something that was not to something that wasn't really the focus and what triggered me was that I've been holding on to it. And then in conclusion, um, um, triggered, um, yeah, well, you don't have the right to your feelings when your feelings are accusing somebody else of being
Starting point is 00:38:53 some kind of perverted creep. You know what I mean? That's not a feeling that's like a mixed in with an accusation, which is also what she does later. She like couches everything in this like, but it's my feelings. No, the problem wasn't your feelings. It's that you're accusing somebody else of something way worse than what happened. Like, well, I mean, I get to do that. But I always felt that like she was totally valid and saying, I felt violated. I thought it was when she made her sound like, like, sudden was being creepy. I didn't think that it didn't seem to me like, sudden was being creepy. But either way think that, it didn't seem to me, like Sutton was being creepy. But either way, I mean, I think she does have a point
Starting point is 00:39:29 in that, like, ultimately the conversation shifted from what she was experiencing. And she probably over exaggerated in terms of, like, the creepy aspect of it. But it's just funny, because all these women have completely exaggerated so many aspects of their various storylines. And Crystal's the only one who's getting really
Starting point is 00:39:46 dinged for it. So either way, she goes, Garza was like, well, you said you don't feel safe. Like, what does that mean? Is it because we're here within not compassionate, criminal potentially? And Crystal's like, she's like, no, it's like my emotions in this group.
Starting point is 00:40:03 That's like how I felt last year. And that's why I shut down a lot. Okay, I guess and this doesn't feel like a safe space for you. Kind of like smiles and crystals like, I'm trying guys. I'm really trying you guys. And to read a second, but say in something like, where we are, isn't this a space? Just because you're in a conversation with a joke women that don't agree with you sweetheart. This is a vacation compared to what I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Oh, shut up! Safe space is not a literal term. Yes, and you don't get to do that. Like I've gone through something traumatic, so you can't have any feelings because whatever I've gone through is where it's shut the fuck up with that Okay, then read the news because you don't have the right to cry about anything either of them Man, as someone who has not gone through a serious trauma, but played someone who endured it Halloween. Thank you so much. Never one movie in America. I just want to say I'm sorry I made you feel like that, not hurt.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I will be using this all against you over the course the next hour and then at one point. And then of course, of course, this is all interrupted by the freaking dogs eating out of their balls. These monster dogs that are totally untrained and out of control. Okay. How dare you call it a dog a monster? They are little angels. No.
Starting point is 00:41:26 But this is, you can tell Kyle is raising these dogs because she sets the dogs up. Everything is right at dog face level. Have you noticed that? Like she has these little things for them to put their plates down that are like way below even table level. They're like shorter tables.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Like she's, she's setting the dogs up so then she can be like, they're bad dogs. You know, bad, you know, sorry guys. That's classic Kyle. Yeah. Kyle. She raises her dogs just like she tries to raise housewives. So Kyle's like, well, I'm sorry if I made you think that I didn't listen, but I think of myself as a fixer. And Chris August, a fixer and a stir. Ha ha ha ha ha. Kyle's not happy with that, she goes, I always try to fix things.
Starting point is 00:42:08 I do try to fix things. I do. It's like no Kyle. And I think the reason why I'm sort of also leaning more towards Crystal is that I feel like I see a lot of insincereity on the part of the women wanting to sit and listen to her.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Like I feel like they didn't genuinely care. Maybe Garsell, but I don't feel like the other woman genuinely cared to know what was going on with Crystal. I think Kyle was just like, I want to get information to then use it to destroy relationships. That's what I really felt like. So Garsell's like, oh wait, sorry.
Starting point is 00:42:42 So they end this conversation because Kyle's like, well I need to ask you a favor. Can you please not wait a year to bring up something like, oh wait, sorry. So they end this conversation because Kyle's like, well, I need to ask you a favor. Can you please not wait a year to bring up something that's bothered you like that? Says the woman who goes three years without talking to her sisters at a time. And I waited two of them to get back at Vanderpump
Starting point is 00:42:58 for making that, oh, I read in the tabloids, you know, husband's seen younger women, is it poor son? Is it poor son? Oh, yeah. So Garsell's like, well, has been seeing younger women, is it, is it poor, sir? It's a poor soul. Yeah. Yeah. So, Garsell's like, well, okay, now let me say something. I've been holding on to this, you know, and I hate when people stir.
Starting point is 00:43:15 So, I know what I'm about to say, maybe explosive, but I feel as the only one of us currently with the talk show, as as as of time of filming. I feel that when you and Sutton had your thing and then we see the clip of Crystal going, um, are you one of those girls that says, I don't see color, please tell me that you're that person. Go ahead, say it. You don't see color. Please tell me you're that person. And then it cuts back and graces like, I was like, I feel that no matter what sudden said, the sky is blue. You're gonna say, are you that girl?
Starting point is 00:43:50 That was the setup. And it's like a pause and Crystal's like, what the fuck? I don't know. I don't know where allies. Whoa, like Crystal's like, oh, but now you know me, you still think that she goes, I don't know. And Crystal is like totally, I think actually rightfully blindsided by that. She's like, what the hell, you know?
Starting point is 00:44:10 So she's just like, well, there was a lot more that was said to that, and it was pretty dark, which is very dark. And like, I think that's the way it is. Oh, yeah, she goes, she goes, yes, well, that was something happened before that. There was a way more said, and Kyle was there, and it was very dark, a lot that was said,
Starting point is 00:44:30 very, very dark, and Dread does her. Oh! So, for me, I read it as like, look, like there were stuff that didn't air, right? There was stuff that they didn't air, and like, there was more to it, that's why I reacted that way. Now, if I had heard that personally, Ronnie,
Starting point is 00:44:47 I would be like, okay, cool, got it. But these women are like, what do you mean? What do you mean? And then Erica's like, well, I wish we could have known that. And so now. So now that's Erica does, you know, of course, Erica wants this evidence, right? Yeah, well, of course, Erica, all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:45:05 the one who has been championing, I must be the street right now. All of a sudden, she's like, I need to know every single word. I need to know what really happened. And Rinna is saying, wow, so she's supposed to be friend. So if that's your friend that you were just standing up for,
Starting point is 00:45:22 why would you say that she said really dark things? Like, something's gonna be pissed and she should be. So, Crystal's crystals like listen, it was the first time I'd ever talk to hold on. Sutton was the first time I'd ever talk to that. Carl's like yeah, it was in Tahoe at the bar and I don't remember her saying anything bad. And crystals like well, you probably blocked it out of your head because you were drunk. And Chris was like, well, you probably blocked it out of your head because you were drunk. I was like, no, no, I remember the conversation. We were talking about, we're talking about her again. And she's not here to defend herself.
Starting point is 00:45:53 And I don't remember anything that dark. And Chris was like, okay, well, we're not going there. You can't do that. Now you brought it up again. And now you're getting, now you brought this up and you're going to get mad at everybody bringing shit up. That's crazy because the implication is it said something really racist. I mean, the way I interpreted it was that, like, Sun said something problematic. But it was enough that Crystal has been able to forgive her and move on. So it wasn't like a like an A-bomb, right?
Starting point is 00:46:26 And she basis like, there was a lot said prior to that. That was very dark. I mean. Yeah, but I just feel like this is like, I don't know, I kind of like it was Crystal's judgment. Like this is something that like Crystal found was dark, but like Crystal has, Crystal and Sutton have like figured it out. And so I don't think, I actually don't think that like Crystal found was dark, but like Crystal has, Crystal and Sutton have like figured it out.
Starting point is 00:46:45 And so I don't think, I actually don't think it's so terrible that Crystal said it. I think though that they are like latching onto it to make it a wedge between the two of them. Well she just made it bad, she made it a wedge. Crystal was just made it a wedge. No, but Garsell just came for her so hard out of nowhere. Garsell just was like,
Starting point is 00:47:05 oh, why? Like, you were setting her up. You were shooting at the Garcells, but he's saying, like, you were trying to set her up. You were actually, the implication there is, like, you're actually using, you know, race as a way to take someone down. And that's kind of what that was saying. Like, it was a setup. And she's like, no, I was reacting to something that you guys just didn't see. You know, she didn't say it like that. But again, it's like ultimately, but again, that's how she says it.
Starting point is 00:47:32 There were a lot of things said that night before that happened and they were very dark. Well, you can't say something like that. And then people not be like, what racist shit does Seton say? I mean, that's what I'm thinking. I'm like, what stupid racist shit does Seton say? I mean, it's like right at the height of Black Lives Matter and everything else going on in the country. And it's not like nobody
Starting point is 00:47:51 has ever heard anybody say these things, which you know that Satan probably said. So just now we're going to bring it up again. So I mean, I think it's fair. I mean, I think it's fair. Which I can't believe, but you can't bring something like that up and then be like, but we're not going to talk about it. Well, I think it's fair. Like I think son, be like, but we're not going to talk about it. Well, I think it's fair. Like I think, I mean, Garcello at a point, you know, she does say, listen, I feel like I need to know because this could impact how I view sudden. And I think that's, I think that is fair.
Starting point is 00:48:15 But I feel like the other ladies are just there to just like, they don't care. Like they're just, they're just there to, to create a wedge. I mean, I think that like, I think Crystal, I think it was a big accusation made towards Crystal. I think she had a right to be like, I was reacting to something else. Should she have said it was really dark? Should she have been like that?
Starting point is 00:48:33 Maybe not, but again, I feel like they just come down on her so hard for, I mean, look at Erica. She's spent an entire season being absolutely over the top dramatic. And it's not like they don't come down on Erica for that. She just said some bullshit. A secret. I'm afraid of Erica.
Starting point is 00:48:50 I know. You know, I'm afraid of Erica. Yeah. So Crystal does the mom thing again. She's like, we are not going there. And what we're not going to do is bring this up right now. Or I'm turning this car around. I'm going to tell you right now what we're not going to talk about. This. We're not going to do.'m gonna tell you right now what we're not gonna talk about.
Starting point is 00:49:05 This, we're not gonna do, I'm telling you right now what we're not gonna do. It's like, okay, mom, get the wooden spoon out of the glove compartment already. Mm-hmm. And Erica tells us, she goes, like, she goes, you know, when you say, I don't wanna say what it is, you allow the person who just asked it to fill in the blanks with the worst possible shit ever. And it's, if it's that bad, that don't bring it up at all. I'm like
Starting point is 00:49:26 Erica really is not the one to talk about this About I don't know what I don't want to say what it is. I mean that really was her entire season And this is her entire season every year is her entire season. So ourselves like well My son all over called me and three goes oh Everything okay G ourselves like well my son all over called me and three goes oh Is everything okay This everything okay with Oliver have been traumatized and she's like um, yes, he's fine It's just that he got a job working for somebody you all know and Doreka's PK
Starting point is 00:50:00 PK don't have a job. What the fuck is Doredie even talking about today? Well, what is PK gonna hire anybody to do? I know. Well that is a central question that conspiracy theorists have, I have to say. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap-ins commercial. So anyway, then we wind up going back to LA and we're back at the retail speaking of speaking of PK and PK is like's like baby can you get me a diet coke honey just how many G how many diet coaks have you had I've heard two plus two more and another six and do Pringles counters diet coke because I've had that too
Starting point is 00:50:41 can you baby have a diet coke and then water it out a little bit with the glass of water? He's like, I don't like water as much as I like diet coke, but I only have two words with you now, and those words are yes, darling. Yes, darling. And she's like, well, PK's up to diabetes 16 now. He refuses to change his lifestyle. It's just stress on top of stress, given what I'm going through.
Starting point is 00:51:08 And she's talking about she has all sorts of new anxieties in her life now, the new reactions, new triggers and her new normal is like palpitating anxiety. And she's even like, she's triggered by the sound of her bedroom door opening, like when her kids come in late at night, you know, just not late at night, but when they come in to sleep, she hears the door and she's like, so she just wants to heal.
Starting point is 00:51:27 If you want PK to think less about food, you need to stop using art like fancy French fry holders on your tables. You know what I mean? Have you seen that cone? It's like that metal cone. No, I haven't. And every time I see it, I'm like, why isn't that filled with fries? No one needs an empty French fry container from a nice restaurant and they're home.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Like, who does that to a diabetic? I mean that's just cruel. It is cruel. So big A says, you know what babe? How about, you know, you've got so much stress going on in your life. How about you call up some of the girls, ring up some of the girls and say, let's take some days off, let's go to Puntamuta. Okay. I'm like, literally the last scene was them on vacation. It wasn't like last episode. This is like when you see a Starbucks across street from a Starbucks, like, it's a lot.
Starting point is 00:52:11 I mean, like, wow, it's maybe you need a vacation because you've only been home for 24 hours. Oh, she's like, well, I will say, even though you mention it, it feels like, oh, that feels nice. It feels like, oh, that feeling is nice. It feels like it sounds to everybody who's like, you want to go on a tropical vacation? Haha, I know. Seriously. She's like, god, it would be nice to be in a spacious, roomy house with a pool and maybe it's own little built-in classroom. Oh, that's our
Starting point is 00:52:41 house. It would be nice to have that somewhere else too. And we'll be grateful, you babe. Now we just need to decide which shows I can watch. You can't watch anything, PK! He's like, but come on, I can't watch anything while you're away. It's like the most relatable conversation they've ever had. Yeah, and you guys, well, I do want to watch that squid game, darling. I'm just imagining to read watching squid game
Starting point is 00:53:04 and being totally confused by so many different concepts. Because they're all PK. PK is totally the one who pushes grass off the bridge. Operation Puntanita. So Sutton is at her store with a guest and assistant or something and she's getting ready for her stuff. And she has a customer. This older lady who comes out and like a baby doll balloon dress. It looks like violet from Charlie and the chocolate factory married really well, you know.
Starting point is 00:53:35 It was a little bonkers. I think that I guess that's what this guy's thing is. Like sort of bonkers, bonkers, whimsical, formal, like tea party wear or something. I don't know, like it was Tweet, Tee party, Tweet party. I don't know, I can't describe it. I'm obviously not in the world of fashion. But it was very like high end baby Jane clothes, you know?
Starting point is 00:53:57 Yeah. So, something's like, and here is the man of the hour, Bun Suwa. And Alexis Medell, they double kids of course and she's like, oh, I have to get dressed. He's like, oh, let me help you. So they go get her dressed and she tells us that he's a Paris darlin' coach or and the borders are finally open.
Starting point is 00:54:16 So he can come into the country and what better way to celebrate than having a Parisian parting as a guy. Oh my God. You know, probably the most offensive way you could celebrate to this guy is having a Parisian party. I know. Could you imagine going to another country and then people throw you like an American party? It's like, okay. I hear you're hot dog.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Then again, Parisian culture is much more awaited to I think than American culture. I feel like, oh my God, I'm talking about countries, Ronnie. I'm so sorry. I feel like. Oh my God, I'm talking about countries, Ronnie. I'm so sorry. I hope you can pinpoint on map, eh? But yeah, I think that for an American, they would love that, because we're always just,
Starting point is 00:54:54 you know, when we see Americans go to other countries on these shows, they're like, but come out of a hamburger. So they would love that. But a Parisian like, oh, really? You're giving me clave. This is tortilla. Oh, it looks stupid, do you? I would love that. But a Parisian like, oh really, you're giving me Cuipe. This is tortilla.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I look stupid to you. I went to Paris in 2012 or 13, and there definitely was a restaurant. It was like an American restaurant there. And I didn't go in, but I was like, it was just really funny seeing American food as like an ethnic food,
Starting point is 00:55:20 you know, in another country. And it was like burgers and chicken wings. And I was like, okay. I was like, I mean, it's not wrong. But I was just one of those things like, wow, heard that's where we've really made our stamp. So, Sutton comes out in her backwards blazer dress, which I really just don't understand who wants to be set on one side. And on the other side you're like boss hog like who wants that? It's crazy. It was a little funny looking and Diana, I mean, Walsen glam and she has this like stylist who's sort of like her like they're basically like, hey, stylist lady, could you
Starting point is 00:56:00 like just kind of drive the scene for us a little bit because Diana's not gonna talk on a room She's like sure okay says that I mean so Diana you've never been to a store right and she's like no I've never been to store before and Just like even though you were just in a store last episode never never been to store before Okay, and you would be of allergies all of of allergies dust, dust, dust in my face, allergies. Yeah. So it's the chemicals too. That's my eyes, they stop popping out of my head. And Leah, and I like that her assistant's name is Leah
Starting point is 00:56:37 because Erica's is Leah. So I just want them to meet. So they could be like, oh hi, Leah. Leah. No, Leah. Leah. I said, Leah. Leah. No, Laya. Leah said Laya. Leah. God get fuck you.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Fuck you. You're like, you pretend you're so no fuck you. No fuck you. Be like Oprah and Uma. So, uh, so back. Yeah. Are you done with that one?
Starting point is 00:57:00 Sorry. Yeah. I was just going to be some of the car. I'm a dude in the car. So, uh, back at the car. I'm just going to do some car. I'm just going to do some car. So back at the story, I sat and said, wow, okay, you do this. You know what we mean? We need that.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Thanks, Dean. And she tells us, there is just so much to do to throw a party. Ice, fonts, blazer, floor. Gotta make sure that laser thing by the door goes, baby, when people walk in, because you need to like, people are walking in. Right. Bar, door, vase, wards.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Like, okay, you're just like this saying, you're gonna have to raise that. I'm playing charades. I've got someone's off camera doing charades, aren't they? Cast away. Farmer's gone. That thing you do, she got Tom Hanks as a clue. So, so, so, Dorets, so then me while Doret is in a car with Kyle and she just got a text from Rina
Starting point is 00:57:56 basically saying that Lois had a stroke so Rina is going up to Oregon to take care of her. And so basically they're talking about end of life care, et cetera, and Kyle's sharing stories about her mom and taking care of her mom and nursing her mom, et cetera. Very sad, emotional stuff. And then Kyle gets a notification that there's a paparazzi at the house taking pictures over the gate.
Starting point is 00:58:22 And to read it's like, who? Who was over your fence? She's like paparazzi, they were just taking pictures over the fence. And to read it's like who was over your fence? She's like paparazzi. They were just taking pictures over the fence. And she's like, that is triggering Kyle. It's very triggering. It makes me feel like someone's casing your house. Kyle's like, thank you so much. Thank you. Like that's actually her dream is that for house cased again by the way. I know.'s like wait a minute this storyline was fine with me, but now I can't brag about proper rotsie She's like to read it's only because Halloween's the number one movie in America right now
Starting point is 00:58:56 And I don't know. There's just like an insatiable appetite for stardom, you know, that's all it is So back at the party. There's a red carpet, and Sutton has WeHo Weekly here, whoever they are. And on the red carpet. It was on the red carpet with George Watt's face from our local ABC affiliate here. It's like on the red carpet with George Pinocchio. And you know that guys, I think his name is George Pinocchio or Pinocchio, and he wears a little vest.
Starting point is 00:59:20 You know, local LA news has some real interesting characters, okay? There's like Dallas Reigns, the weatherman, but this guy, George Pinocchio, he always has a bleed, he always has a suit, but he always has a little vest, and it's always like a paisley vest. He's like, George Pinocchio here with on the red carpet, just want to say how are you doing? And in fact, Ronnie, remember when we went to the taping of Top Chef, when we went to like Top Chef California,
Starting point is 00:59:46 went to all the time. And remember, there was that one girl who was really obnoxious and she tried to cut in line for the Vans and she was the one who got mad. She is a correspondent or at least was at one point for on the red carpet with George Pinocchio. Oh god. I'm fired from cutting lines. Yeah, I'm just, I'm just like, I'm in for you. I'm in for you. I need to cut the line. How dare you? Remember because we were like, we're always friends with the terrible ones because she was talking to us in line.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Oh wait, actually, no wait, wait. No, no, no, we got it wrong. We totally framed her. She was awful the entire time, but then someone tried to cut in line and she was the one who defended our position. She was the one who was like, excuse me, there's a line. I totally burst my stance. Okay, yeah, I take it back.
Starting point is 01:00:29 So I barely remember because it was outdoors, which I don't approve of. And it was at the dog park, so we're eating stuff. And we had to be like settled from the dog park to the other parking place, which so we had to wait in long lines in the sign and everything smelled like dog poop while you're trying to eat. I can't eat tuna carpaccio with dog poop smells. It was, I just remember at one point they had everyone gather around because Tom and Padma and Gail were all going to discuss something, so we all had to stand around and fill out the background.
Starting point is 01:01:01 I remember just at one point Padma turned around to all of us and goes, you guys see him close, everybody went, bye. Unlike gal. Oh, so red carpet. So he's like, hi, I love vests. Do you have any vests in here? Do you have any vests in the store?
Starting point is 01:01:18 And something's like, well, we don't have vests, but we do have backwards vests that are worn by ladies going to cocktail parties. So there's that I have my friend Lexi mobile. He's from France. We brought him in wall be damned Okay, that's I say it's so funny because I always said wall be damned and here we are wall be damned Am I right vest guy? He's like good. Thank you for a lot of endless I'm gonna have a Los Angeles. Hahaha.
Starting point is 01:01:42 So, Garsell hugs and Diana comes in in like a crazy colored green berk and I think that matches her crazy green. I don't know. More than the county, more than the small city costing, you know what I'm saying? I'm losing. I don't know why I'm awake right now. Yeah. Okay. So anyway, they hug.
Starting point is 01:02:05 And so Garsell is asking who's coming and says crystal. And Garsell's like, oh great. Because Garsell is now mad at crystal for making her think that set him as possibly racist. Mm-hmm. And so then we cut to Erica at home with Mikey and Laya. Because I guess they're working at all hours of the day. And Erica's like, I swear to God,
Starting point is 01:02:27 I just finally figured out this form of thought. And I'm so, no, I'm just like you guys. What's the term of style? Oh my God. I'm one of the people. So she's just saying how she's like so happy to not be going to Sun's party. And she goes, you know what?
Starting point is 01:02:45 After everyone was going around kissing each other's ass. I asked where's my apology and she said, I'm not giving you one. I think I stood up and said, fuck you. So we got like a flashback of that whole scene that happened back again. Guess what? You're not owed an apology, okay? Yeah. So she's then we get a clip of her.
Starting point is 01:03:04 So telling us, sorry, I she's then we get a clip of her so telling us Sorry, I can't make it. I've got a date with a vibrator And she's like let's be honest. I'm glad I'm not getting dressed I don't have to put anything on a plaster on a fake smile. I'm like, oh, yeah, you made no effort. You're in full glam I know I know full glam or shots glam right now and Laya goes Yeah, you can just like lay down with a dog and Mike he goes love it What's gonna happen when these two are no longer on her payroll like they are literally like it doesn't matter What's I think I'm gonna go to the fridge right on get a yogurt. Oh my god. I die
Starting point is 01:03:43 to go to the fridge right on get a yogurt. Oh my god, I die. So back at the party, a setman, Chrysler hugging and Chrysler's wearing leather. And she's like, yes, it's leather. It's an honor of you. And we see a clip of what am I jealous of? You're ugly leather. by the dance and co-going. No! So, Crystal is, I'm sorry, Sudden is talking about how, well, you know, Alexi has, he has an absolutely beautiful apartment and like, and he says like, yes, I would be interior designer if I was not a fashion designer and Diane is like, oh yes, well my apartment in London, is designed by Georie or money? My other one designed by Fendi himself. Yeah, God. And the producer asked how much it costs
Starting point is 01:04:33 and she's like a lot. My previous house in London was done Fendi. Weird that someone keeps getting places designed when they can't stand dust. So Kyle and Tariq, she's annoying me, but I still love her. So that make any, I'm still glad she's here, but the no dust thing shut up. You live in LA, okay? Yep, good luck.
Starting point is 01:04:56 You live in a desert. So that's gonna do. It's a dust bowl. I'm so mad for dust today. Like I really, I'm taking up for dust. Dust in the wind. I'm so mad for dust today, like I really, I'm taking up for dust. Stust in the wind. So Kyle is anxious now.
Starting point is 01:05:11 She's like, I have anxiety now, because I think she just wants to be part of the anxiety thing that's going around. And so they are walking up to the store at Kyle and to read, and to read, like, honey, why is the press here? That's not cool. And she tells us, listen, I can't talk to anybody right now. Anyone but my close friends and family
Starting point is 01:05:31 and of course, the entire production team is being monitored by people at Bravo and NBC Universal, Diely, only the closest people in my world. So how can the million of you are close, the millions of you of course. So now she's mad at Sutton for not giving her a heads up that there would be press at her event. How could she not give me a heads up?
Starting point is 01:05:53 I have that self-absorbed. Okay, someone who doesn't want their friend to publicize their publicity event. Who's self-absorbed now? You didn't think there was gonna be publicity at a designer being flown in to show off his wears at Sutton's store that she's trying to sell? Hello.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Okay, Doreet, I believe Doreet's, I got Rob's thing. Okay, I believe it. I'm gonna benefit of the doubt that. But this is getting ridiculous now, Doreet. With your how could she, how could she say safe space around me? Okay, you're ham-handing it now, with your fucking Widow's outfit from a 1962 Italian mob movie,
Starting point is 01:06:34 and your little black headband, okay? And that's, man. I mean, I can understand if she doesn't want to be peppered by questions from the press, so she just doesn't do the red carpet, it's fine. Go through the back door, West Hollywood is built as alleys. We all know, we've all hooked up in one, okay?
Starting point is 01:06:51 Go back there. Literally, but that being said, I mean, she can't be mad at Sun and say that Sun is self-absorbed because she didn't think about, like that Sun didn't cancel her press or didn't give it to Rita heads up. I mean, that's more self-absorbed by Rita, okay?
Starting point is 01:07:08 So basically, sudden, Tariq goes in, looks like she does skip the red carpet and she starts talking to a sudden and a sudden introducer to Alex and says, oh, the Alex finally made it into the country and Rita just gives like this angry look, like, you're the one that caused Sutton to say something not very kind about me on a day when I was going through something, Alex.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Alex. And of course, he's doing the press for Doret Kyle. She's like, she's just so strong. And you know, the aftermath has not been easy for thankfully there's me there's me she hasn't had to eat one of her own steak since so that's been helpful for her so then oh good sorry I was just say the trauma she has endured I mean it reminds me of when I actually faced a critical injury on the set of Halloween that forced me to get a nose job was during my bangs period and I try to block it out, but you know, trauma
Starting point is 01:08:11 is trauma. How could you have bangs after what I have gone through? So we get a tssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss and she's like, um, is this the guy who was held at the border? The infamous salon does even know the story about the drama and folding around him. No, Kyle, tell him. I'm sure I'm sure Lexi is just starting to know. Stir it up with Lexi too. Do it, you know. So Sutton goes, well, this is Dorite and she has her own lie. I guess you could call it a line. So she designed something. So here she did put some plastic lemons on the ceiling of an Italian restaurant in someplace called Bourbonca, so there was that. That was good. Have you got her a designer?
Starting point is 01:08:55 Have you ever heard of McDonald's? Now imagine that McDonald's served Italian food and you got it from a menu. That's where she put lemons in. So then Kyle is like, um, uh, and said, why, by the way, I designed things too. Kyle, you, she he designs your stuff and you put your name on it. She's like, Oh, I have like, like, this store has like half my line in it. It's like, it's called a pity hanger. Okay. That is lip-pity-gaming. And you know that shit is only in her store when she knows Kyle is coming. Because that shit does not stay in her store here. It's like, let's have some couture, and then let's have some satiny lounge wear in the corner.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Yes. Yes, Kyle. That's there all the time. So then, um, so now Kyle is in like a leather turtleneck thing, but there's like a little slit and they're like, whoa, I think you're really showing too much there. So then, so the when there was this whole conversation like Hinta with Crystal, when it became this thing, like, I can't believe you said dark. I just knew to I'm sure you knew too. It was a countdown to when Kyle would use this against Crystal. And sure enough, Kyle goes right up to Sun, goes,
Starting point is 01:10:12 is everything okay with you and Crystal? I'm just asking because we had a very awkward conversation at the ask, by the way, look, there's Kyle doing it right there, a very awkward, although the difference is Kyle, like she says what happens what happens she goes crystal said something like What you said was so dark that she couldn't even say it and I said that didn't happen So what do you think about that son? So she is actively like this kind of Kyle who says she's a fixer is actively bringing up this thing to try to turn Sun against Crystal. Like, that's what she's doing here.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Well, right after she just spent the first month of this show trying to turn everybody against Sun, it's like, but Kyle's your friend now. Kyle's really here. She's got your back. So Kyle's like, I mean, I still don't know what was said. Either crystals confused or I'm confused. And my money's on Crystal.
Starting point is 01:11:04 And so Kyle is wearing like a glitter disco top with brown leather jacket over it. What, like why? So I just, I don't know why that's even in there, but Sutton's like, well, I didn't say anything horrible. I didn't think, I don't know why we're going backwards. And when you go through something like crystal and I did, let that tree stand still.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Don't try to cut the tree down. New trees are built to bit. T trees are cut down to build walls. Don't do Lexie like that. Don't do Lexie like that. Yeah, because she's like, because this is like a two-fer for Kyle, because she gets to both make, she gets to both be angry at Crystal,
Starting point is 01:11:40 because she's angry at Crystal because Crystal said you were too drunk, you don't remember. So she gets to both like get revenge on Crystal and she gets a chance for Sudden's name to kind of get, you know, like, sullied by whatever problematic thing that she said. So this is like all winning,
Starting point is 01:11:53 for this all victory for Kyle. And I think by the way, we can also agree that when Kyle's like, I think that like, one of us was confused, my money's on Crystal. I'm like, my money's on you, Kyle. Kyle has always been a terrible witness for all these fights. Let's go back to season one. I would never say that, Camille.
Starting point is 01:12:11 I would never say that about you, Camille. Kyle, you're an unreliable witness. I'm sorry. Unreliable witness. So Sutton is telling us, listen, I'm reminding calm because I know I didn't say anything. I should be ashamed of or anything Dark and you see here like looking around just trying to remember like what did I say?
Starting point is 01:12:32 And sudden nose I think sudden nose what she's saying because sudden is trying way too hard to just be like Now we're moving forward. We're moving forward Rehaz no no no there's only one hash here. We eat it with breakfast. We're moving forward. I don't think we're re-hast. No, no, no. There is only one hash here. We eat it with breakfast. We do not re-hast. No hash it once. No hash it once.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Like she knows. Yeah. So Garsell is like, well, so Garsell interrupts. And like what are you guys talking about? And she goes, you know, well, what she alluded to made me feel like it was something that could change our dynamic. If you had said something crazy.
Starting point is 01:13:06 And so just like, watch your back with your new friend. That's all I'm saying. So I'm like, I don't know. I think there was a, I don't know why ourselves coming for Crystal all of a sudden. Right, that come from. I've probably the good old fashioned jealousy. Like, that was, that was her best friend. And now Crystal and Sutton are buddy buddy and she's like
Starting point is 01:13:25 what the hell is this you guys aren't friends what is this fakery you know she also probably did not like being told that like she was part of an unsafe space so she's probably like you know it fucked us all man so Garsell's like yeah watch her back so Garsell tells us you know friendship supposed to be about trust and the minute she felt corner crystal through Sutton onto the bus. And Sutton's like, we are not moving backwards. Nobody has, nobody has the restaurant is closed. Let's, let's work forward. That's his her hood. And Kyle's like, but I'm confused because the Sutton I know a year ago was so sensitive and emotional about everything. And now look at her. She, she doesn't care. Like that's because she has wind on her sales because everyone loves Sutton from,
Starting point is 01:14:08 you know, how she's set up to Erica. So therefore she feels confident about really anything she's doing right now. You got to love this show. They're mad at Sutton for crying all the time and then Sutton comes back with all this confidence and they're like, why is it Sutton crying? Yeah. I mean, what the hell? We're trying to make her mad and she's not even crying. So, Sutton's like, um, can y'all stop talking behind my back? I mean, literally it's hard today because my front is my back. So, I know how to speak to you, too. So, Garcell is telling Kyle, like, well, obviously Sutton doesn't want to go back there.
Starting point is 01:14:42 I mean, well, of course Sutton doesn't want to go back there. I mean, well, of course Sutton doesn't want to go back there because at best, it's just a reminder of when she said something to him, Dev, and at where something problematic is going to come out. So of course, she doesn't want to. So Kyle's like, I mean, you can't just say it was so awful. I mean, by putting it out there and leaving it open for people to guess and assume, people are going to assume
Starting point is 01:15:04 they're worse. They're just going to assume they're worse. They're just going to assume they're worse. Like, or you could just have just trust Crystal, someone who's supposed to be your friend, that like whatever was said, it was patched up and they're moving forward, but what she said was not like she wasn't seeing something in a vacuum, she was responding something, but it's all good, they've moved forward from it. And just like take it on that level and just move forward on that level. Well, it's interesting, because Crystal is both throwing set in under the bus, but it's all good, they move forward from it. And just like take it on that level, and just move forward on that level. Well, it's interesting,
Starting point is 01:15:25 because Crystal is both throwing Sutton under the bus, but she's also protecting Sutton. Captain her. You know, so she's like doing both things. I think she's like, listen, the Sutton I didn't like said a stupid thing, but now I like Sutton, so I'm not gonna fuck over this Sutton,
Starting point is 01:15:40 because I like this Sutton. Yeah, which I think is actually fine. You're like an outsider. That's it. Fuck the other set. You know, she's like, but not like a, but don't make me look like a crazy person who's just like pulling out race cards, you know,
Starting point is 01:15:51 like she's like, I was reacting to something. Yeah. So, well, I think that whole thing was she sees set and she doesn't like set and they didn't, she didn't like set in at all at first. Period. Period. Period.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Period. So I think that she was, she was probably thinking like, oh god, this girl's this girl who doesn't see rate. So when Sutton started her whole, why can't we just all be humans? She's like, oh, good. Tell me you're that girl, you know, but I don't think it, she was that girl turns out, she was that girl. So like crystal wasn't wrong.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Because that was like, yeah, we,, we are all because I just don't understand Which is why it's a little unfair of Garsell to say I thought like no matter what she would have said you would have done that because that's like She but she she she didn't but Chris sudden didn't say Sun did exactly what Crystal anticipated, but I think that Garsell is more saying, like, you're pretending to be so close with Sutton now, but you were real asshole to her last year by putting her in that position. And saying, you know, bringing up this whole racing and making her look like a racist, even though Sutton did say that stuff.
Starting point is 01:16:59 So I think she's like, you were making her look like an asshole, but now you're best friends. Like, what the fuck is up with it? That's how I'm taking it. I mean, I think it's actually a very nuanced situation, which is interesting because I think she's like, you were making her look like an asshole, but now you're best friends. Like, what the fuck is up with it? That's how I'm taking it. I mean, I think it's actually a very nuanced situation, which is interesting because I think a lot of the points you make are very strong and salient, but I think that Crystal has,
Starting point is 01:17:14 I think there's a lot of things that Crystal is saying that also deserve consideration. And I feel like basically Garsell just went at her and Crystal defended herself. And now they're more mad that they feel like basically Garsell just went at her and Crystal defended herself. And now they're like, they're more mad that they feel like Crystal threw Sun under the bus. The degree to which Crystal is throwing Sun under the bus is all based on how much they want that to be.
Starting point is 01:17:37 They are the ones talking about it over and over. They're the ones who are like, making this whole event. It doesn't have to be a bus. You could have just thrown sudden onto a road with light foot traffic instead. Right. But they actually summoned the bus.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Right. They are the bus. So Kyle's like, well, you know, because Crystal comes over, because Crystal's happened to a great mic. I'm like, while they're talking about Crystal and Satan, she's like, my crystal, they show them talking and hugging
Starting point is 01:18:02 and just like loving each other. So Crystal's like, so what's going on over here? And Kyle's like, well, actually, we're talking about Lakinta and that conversation that happened. And Kyle has now dressed like a Kit Kat girl in Cabaret. I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know where she gets her clothes.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Why anybody let it happen. Love Jesus. Not the Kit Kat girl in Cabaret. So, Crystal's like she may have been in a KitKat commercial. So, Crystal's like, you mean at the house? And she goes, yeah, and here's what I want to say. Because in that conversation, Garcet have feelings. And instead of defending yourself, you brought up Sutton.
Starting point is 01:18:38 And I mean, I was there that night, and I don't remember anything horrific that Sutton said. She goes, well, I'll, here's the thing. You don't remember it. And Satan said. She goes, well, I'll hear the thing. You don't remember it and that's fine. You were drinking. I was like, stop saying that. I do remember. I'm not that's the end. I remember things for a living, okay?
Starting point is 01:18:56 So, Crystal's like, she's like, well, it probably doesn't affect you. In fact, I know it doesn't affect you the way it affects me or affects Garsell. So Garsell's like, well, you gotta tell me what she said, because in my mind, I'm thinking it's the worst. And she goes, well, here we go again with Crystal's word choice. Dark is a very big word, because that could make me question our friendship and we're certain stands on race.
Starting point is 01:19:24 So Crystal's like, I am going to be very clear with you guys right now. Okay, I'm telling you this, if we continue this conversation, no one is going to get a Capri Sun at the skating rink. I do not want to be told the word dark is too much and then we start focusing on a word And Garth says like okay, well then don't just don't say dark Just say what she said Spill the tea honey so I crystal's like she said something problematic and it's obviously something that's forgivable Which by the way, I think that is I
Starting point is 01:20:01 Think that like that's kind of the am that's actually like, listen guys, it was bad, but it's forgivable as you can see because I forgave it. So that's all you really need to know about it, you know? And Garsell's like, is it forgivable? And the crystal's like, well, that's why I'm here at the store. Yeah. And so Garsell's like, well, why won't you just say it?
Starting point is 01:20:21 She says, because the question you asked me is very damaging. Like, it's very damaging to Sutton, which is another thing. It's like, Garsell, why would you want her to say whatever it is and get Sutton? And, you know, well, because she's like, if Sutton said something like, really racist, then Garsell would look kind of like a fool sticking up for Sutton all this time, which I think is understandable. But I also feel like, I don't know, I'm surprised
Starting point is 01:20:45 also that Crystal was like, listen, I'll tell you off camera. But then again, if Sudden said something really terrible, should she be given some sort of like off camera, you know, grace. So I don't know. Now it's getting too nuanced for me to even figure this out. I think she just said another stupid thing like she was saying to her. I'm done at night. Yeah. Yeah, just something to own death that she was like, you can't say that and here's why we don't say we don't see color anymore. Even though that was the thing to say, when you were growing up, it was nice. Now we don't say it because it's disregarding the other people's experiences, you know, Like trying to explain things to Sun.
Starting point is 01:21:26 Yeah, that's what I figured is. Something like that. Chris, if I say this, it's gonna become a huge race thing against Sun now this year, and I'm not trying to do that, and they won't let it go. Everybody else won't let it go. So, Sun comes over now and Carl's like,
Starting point is 01:21:41 well, it's about you. And she's like, well, that's no surprise because normally I'm not a brand-women happening. So anyone want to pat my back because you will be blessed. Don't do it. You can just keep doing these backwards, like, torso joke.
Starting point is 01:21:57 And I'm just gonna give it a like a child every single time. I'm like, again, again, Ronnie. So it sounds like, so Garcell's like, well, well, sudden this is, this is, I told Crystal like I want to know because I'm thinking the worst, et cetera. It sounds like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:22:17 I have done this already. I have apologized. I've learned a lot since last year. I changed a lot. And I don't know exactly what I said. I just want, I truly mean this. I cannot take it unless we go forward. I cannot.
Starting point is 01:22:30 We must move forward and talk about I'm walking backwards, but only in this outfit, because it's forwards. Okay. I'm a little torn. I wish direction to walk in and give a moment. Okay. It's like that movie, all of me except it's, I'm Lily Tomlin and Steve Martin is this blazer, okay? So, I was like, well, that sounds nice on paper, but I think our cell is worried that it's worse than what it could have been.
Starting point is 01:22:56 You know, not so big deal. And she says that she thinks that and so afraid that she did say something that she doesn't remember that she just wants to drop it. You know, then Carl's like, but I was there and I heard everything and that's not what happened. Okay, Kyle. Kyle, by the way, Kyle's track record on listening, I mean, should we just roll the tapes about Nanny Kay? Who's Nanny Kay?
Starting point is 01:23:22 Who? Even in this episode, Dury, because, oh, Kyle, I'm filled with such anxiety. And, Kyle, this is my boo popping out. Tell me if my boo pops out. Tell me. Kyle is like, they've had montages of Kyle being a bad listener.
Starting point is 01:23:35 And now she wants to be like, I remember everything from that night. Oh, so basically they talk and crystals like, listen, I'm over what we're not gonna do so to read like oh Crystal knows what she's doing. She's creating a scenario. I'm then she's refusing to say but then the scenario Chee that's blue that's dirty Bully So Chris I mean to read like my take on it is that it was in defending yourself,
Starting point is 01:24:07 you went G, you opened up a can of worms. Defend yourself without seeing something that you're not prepared to say. And Chris was like, it would never have been enough to read. Whatever I said, it never would have been enough. And she goes, but it's still not enough because you're not prepared to share. So they're getting into like the circular thing about cans of worms, et cetera. And it's like the thing is, the can of worms that she opened,
Starting point is 01:24:32 the worms are dead, they are expired. No one eats in the worms, okay? No one, there's no hash, there is no worms, all right? That is like dying, who's dead? The worms? And they're like, can't have worms. She goes, well,
Starting point is 01:24:51 but you see, it's so hard to follow. Worms are dead. That's what I hear. And I'm allergic to dead worms. So I think I should probably go soon. They live in dust. They live in the wet dust.
Starting point is 01:25:02 That's worms. It's like that movie, Dune. So then Crystal is like, she's like, you know what? I got a question I had to answer and I have to defend myself. And then Garsell's like, but why did you use the word dark? My Garsell. She specifically said, like don't focus on the word choice.
Starting point is 01:25:20 And Crystal's like, she's like, we talked about this Garsell. Do not tell me what words to use you are not allowed to Police my words. She tells us how is dark a big word even it's one syllable one vowel. I mean it's a pretty simple word. Now Garcell is accusing crystal of planting a seed and you know and and crystal said she didn't want to she didn't want to even bring this up because she thought it was resolved and Garcell is like, well here's Crystal with a new word but it's not resolved at all Because you created a new issue out of it you literally created out of out of nowhere out of like this thing, you know? So crystals like so what we're not gonna do is question my integrity And that's when I'm gonna stop because I know where I stand period at all times and gross else just like Okay
Starting point is 01:26:19 They let everybody give dramatic looks everyone's like Let everybody give dramatic looks everyone's like Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, and then we go to Doreet Bubbly chef got my EDM R BQF Session to not be care But guess what I got good news for you Doreet. I talked to boy George He's an expert on trauma. Okay, and he said comma comma comma comma Camillean is what you will be experiencing soon.
Starting point is 01:26:47 Trauma chameleon. You know, listen, let me tell you, I spoke with boy, he has put plenty of drug addicted twink through trauma by changing them to radiators while he's bonked out of his mind. Alright, and he's always gotten them through lawsuits with EMDR, babe. Alright. Boy George is giving someone advice on getting a trauma. How many people as Boy George traumatized might want to do a new search on that one? Okay. He wanted me to know that when it's late at night and you hear the door open just say to yourself do you really want to hurt me
Starting point is 01:27:26 do you really want to let me go is that the rest of lyric i can't remember so um so anyway so she's gonna have a therapy session so this lady val comes in played by Amy Brennan and right my god i love Amy Brennan and she's on shining girls no no that she always works good for her Amy Brennan. And, right. My God, I love Amy Brennan. She's on shining girls. No, no, that's not right. She always works, good for her. Amy Brennan meant it's from judging Amy, right? No. Judging Amy, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:54 Amy Brennan meant it's from that. She's in from like a million things. She's just like, she's a round. She's a round. She's great. I love her. She always had that like, world weary face. She's like, she's been through shit,
Starting point is 01:28:04 but she's still gonna show up and she's always gonna like make you a grilled cheese sandwich Yes, and I love that she's in everything she was in the leftovers one of my all-time favorite shows so good and that She was in that weird show Goliath with Billy Bob Thornton. She played a total weirdo. I love her You go away me, private man. I'm so glad you have a side hustle. I know I'm looking at her right now And you know what she also like she looks she looks great. Geez. I mean, I know we shouldn't judge on those things But she really looks great. She I mean her you're only supposed to not judge on things when people are ugly Not when they look good. You're glad to say they look good. You're just not allowed to say, go on, she's really going downhill. You're supposed to say like she looks great. Yeah. I forgot she had a whole run of the phrase. Don't open a can of expire forms. She is wonderful. And she was even she was even on
Starting point is 01:28:55 murder she wrote. She was on an episode called a Christmas secret. I mean, hello full circle talk about all start talk about range talk about range So this scene is actually you know sad and stuff and so this is to read getting Therapy for her her break in and stuff. So I don't really want to make fun. I mean I could there's nothing too big fun I've it's it's it's it's a pretty it's a sad scene. She's basically like re living It's a sad scene. She's basically like re-living everything. And she's like thinking the worst possible thoughts, like imagining the worst possible thing, imagining the worst possible headlines. And she's like really just sobbing there.
Starting point is 01:29:35 But I also appreciate it that she is throwing herself at the therapy and being honest about these fears that she's feeling. Because I feel like she wouldn't be able to move past this moment unless she's sort of Because I feel like she wouldn't be able to move past this moment unless she's sort of like really let the stuff out. So, you know, I'm happy that she's handling it and it's sad. And well, I'm happy you're happy.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Okay, this is how I watch housewives. Sad scene comes, turn off, turn it off on my head and repress it. When I die or when I have like an emotional breakthrough and suddenly I'm letting go of all these feelings inside of me whatever they are This is what they're gonna be it's like Doreed. Can you believe it happened to Doreed? It's gonna be like 2062 and I'm gonna be like yeah before I die just have to say I've never gotten over the Doreed trauma So I'm gonna be buried housewife scene so that I refuse to talk about. I'm just surprised that we didn't hear PK the next room be like red light green light
Starting point is 01:30:30 God I love this squid game. I thought this show was going to be about Kalamare. Squid game. At least there is a prominent cookie segment All right everybody well thanks so much for being here that brings us to the end of We sure love you guys. Thanks for being on demand. I'll leave you who we're here and um if you want some more on demand this week was also Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip ex-wives club So that's video as well, and we will see you, I guess, tomorrow for real Housewives
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