Watch What Crappens - RHOBH: Breaking News, Broken Trust

Episode Date: August 12, 2021

When an explosive piece in the Los Angeles Times hits newsstands, the women begin to question whether or not Erika has been totally forthcoming with them on the latest Real Housewives of Beve...rly Hills. Plus, Dorit welcomes us into the diverse world of her employees! Watch us record this recap with Crappens on Demand here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/54814325/Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:57 If you like love Island UK, okay? Love Island UK, okay, okay. Okay, okay. Well everybody, today is real housewives of Beverly Hitters day and what a day it is. Well, this is the episode where shit starts hitting the fan with Erica and everyone starts to question whether Erica has been telling them the truth this whole time
Starting point is 00:02:19 or just setting herself up, setting her defense up while using everybody else to do it on the show. Yeah. So, well, it's not a good look, okay? herself up, setting her defense up while using everybody else to do it on the show. Yeah. Well, it's not a good look, okay? So the episode opens up. We've just had this moment. We're in Likinta at Kyle's house where Garcell has just said, well, you know, Erica says, and I hope you don't mind me
Starting point is 00:02:47 sharing this, that Tom calls her. And Erica's like, well, you're just there, but go ahead, it's just my life, you're just there. And she loses her mind. She starts sobbing. You've been trying to bring shit my girl. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,a. She's like, I've tried to be open and honest.
Starting point is 00:03:07 You have not tried to be open and honest. I'm sorry, you have not tried to be open and honest because we've watched you on this show for years and years and I don't know about the honesty thing, but you're not open, you're not an open person. I'm sorry, you're not. So last week we were saying it seems like this was a fight with production, right?
Starting point is 00:03:25 Because you're so pissed. Well, it turns out, well, we don't know true, true. So Lisa Renempada on Instagram that said something along the lines of, wow, I wish they hadn't cut the huge fight the Eric was having with producers, because that would have been really amazing. Because apparently they re-edited. This came from a page six article who was sources, who knows, you know, it's so weird that they got rid of Lee's savander
Starting point is 00:03:50 pump, but they still have this pesky source over. Yeah, they still have the lead. Isn't that crazy? So strange. So some source over there was telling page six that the whole conversation about Erica, saying Tom called her was a conversation she had privately off camera with Crystal and then the producer, that's why the scene they were walking away, right, you don't see their mouths moving, they show them walking away down the hill while this conversation takes place
Starting point is 00:04:20 and that the producer's told Garcell to bring it up, which is why Garcell continues to bring it up. Like she brings it up and then Erica ignores it. Well, it doesn't ignore it, but it just blows it off and puts on lipstick. And then she brings it up again. And then that's why Erica gets pissed because she's forcing her to work.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Right. And I think that Crystal said somewhere on social media over the past week, I think Crystal said that she did defend Garcell, because people were like, why did Crystal just let Garcell look like an asshole? And then after Erica went to the bathroom, Crystal was like, oh yeah, no,
Starting point is 00:04:56 Erica told me not to say anything, but Garcell wasn't in the car yet. So she didn't know that. People were like, why didn't Crystal say that? Like why didn't Crystal defend Garsell in that moment. I think that crystal said that she did, but it was cut out of the show. So they cut it out today too because she didn't do it in this episode either and the continuation of the scene, which I thought was really interesting.
Starting point is 00:05:16 It's like Erica's not there. When Erica's not there, Crystal says, yeah, but Erica didn't hear. What's her about? Garsell didn't hear, what's her about? Darcell didn't hear. And then when Erica's there, she never says it in front of Erica, which is weird, because she says it a couple, two or three times, but just never in front of Erica.
Starting point is 00:05:34 So that was kind of odd. I also think that like this is, I also don't know why it had this sort of reaction. I mean, later on, they're all saying, well, it's because the LA Times article came out. That was really what was on her mind. It could have been anyone. But still, I mean, when Erica is sitting here talking
Starting point is 00:05:51 about the affair and this crazy, you know, herbie the love bug story about Tom driving around the cliff, going off the side of it and everything, all these crazy lured things. And then Garsell says something that to me is not that shocking, you know, it's not surprising at all, it's not crazy. I don't understand why this is what elicited that response. And yes, given that this is still ultimately Erica's story to tell and she can share what she wants to when she wants to, I still think like, you're also in a reality show.
Starting point is 00:06:23 And you knew what you were signing up to. You played think like you're also in a reality show. And you knew what you're signing up to. You played this game for a few years. The problem, I think, is that Erica's just been caught in another lie. I mean, she's on here, say, one minute she's on here saying, Tom is the best thing that ever happened to her. He's the most supportive person ever. He's let her follow her dreams. He took her in when she was a single mom. He did everything. Then the next minute, he's, he's a cheating bastard and she hates his guts. Then she says she hasn't called him because she just left like a thief in the night and never spoke to him again because that bastard finally pushed her too far with his affairs. And then it turns out no, she didn't do
Starting point is 00:06:58 that. It was because he had mental incapacities because of possible Alzheimer's or whatever. So that's why she left and never called. And now she's saying that Tom still calls her every day and she's like, come on buddy, you can't be calling me which is showing her as being kind of loving towards Tom. So she's just, she's catching herself in millions of lies. Basically is what I can happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:22 And forcing her to talk about it in front of everybody on camera after an entire weekend, well, two days or whatever, of having to talk about this shit on camera over and over. And I think she's just pissed at this point. It's like I'm giving you people a buff. I'm about to do with you and I. Like no.
Starting point is 00:07:37 She didn't seem to really have this reaction when Rina really had kind of a same line of, like Rina has been messy. Like Garza was being a little messy really not that messy But Rina's messy way messier than this and I've never seen Erica ever like give Rina a slap on the wrist for you know No, like maybe that's the nieces thing to say, you know No, cuz Rina's setting her up to give the answers that Erica wants to give yes I've already talked to Erica so she's she's giving her the questions that Erica wants to answer
Starting point is 00:08:07 to make herself look good and Tom look like he's happy and could pass itated for his trial and do all the stuff that Erica's obviously at this point. Like I think it's pretty obvious at this point. I just want that she's trying to spin stories that are gonna be used later against them, you know, to saying Tom has this mental problem and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So obviously she's been spending. So we're not asking questions, but it's only to make Eric
Starting point is 00:08:30 a look like a victim and Tom look like a monster. I just want Andy at the reunion to say some ask a question along the lines of seeing how upset it made you when Garcell divulged something that you felt was yours to share. Do you have any regrets about how the Denise situation was handled by your friends? That's what I would really like to be asked. Because at the end of the day, this all comes down to me, just wanted to get like petty, like petty amends for the Denise situation. But she won't because Erica was in on that. Erica was treating her for a few years. Of course, too, because Erica didn in on that Erica was treating of course to of course I didn't like that Denise was insinuating that she was cursing in front of her daughter And that she said to three something about her daughter and then when Erica said I'm sorry or whatever and then she brought it up again
Starting point is 00:09:15 And she's like oh now you're coming for me They seem at a watch it man. She I'm gonna come for you. And so that's Eric I'm like these little these fights. No, I'm saying it it's like Erica's being as a total hypocrite about these situations, you know. Yeah. So anyway, we should actually start the episode. So Garcell, Garcell's like, I mean, I would never want to hurt her. I mean, she's already going through a lot, but I mean, I was never told not to save these
Starting point is 00:09:40 things. And Crystal's like, yeah, Garcell didn't hear that, you know, Erica asked me not to share it. And I'm sure if Garcell had heard that, she wouldn't have shared it. And Kyle's like, I don't even know why if Tom had called Erica that it would be like, I had to call Erica, it would be that big of a deal. I mean, obviously you're married all these years. I mean, your husband's going to try to call you. I mean, that's normal. You know, Kyle actually, now that I say it out loud, Kyle has sort of the same reaction as me, which does scare me for me.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Like I'm a little concerned. When I, every time I align with Kyle, I always get a little concerned for myself. Well, Erica has just thrown a fit. And so just like a child does to get the attention off of whatever shit they just did wrong. She throws a fit and now comes out and everybody's hucking her and, you know, all this. And then Kathy basically proving that she's the best person on this show goes, does anyone want tacos? Which is really all anybody needs to hear in any kind of an emergency situation, you know.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Yeah, she clears the tacos away and then it's just like this awkward silence. So Rinna does one of those performative sides. She goes, Ha! Wow. This is someone else's fault. Whoa! How is someone else in trouble? Whoa! Wow! Wow! Sarah is like, This is very hard.
Starting point is 00:10:57 And this is a hard time in my- Ha! Last! Ha! It's hot in my- Ha! La! And Rinat goes, just breathe. I'm sorry it happened. Ha ha ha it's hot in my And reggae's just breeze I'm sorry it happened. It was fucked up. It was fucked up So Garsell's like fuck this bitch
Starting point is 00:11:19 Well, did you catch it Kyle was completely zoned out in board? No, I didn't Ericka's doing her fake crying thing and Kyle's just like Zoned out on a wall just like why are we still doing this? So Garsell gets up and she's like, you know what? I'm gonna leave. I'm just gonna go and Kathy's like, don't leave Kyle Kyle, this is your house Oh, sorry, I still get confused a little bit. Wait Garsell, please don't leave. Please don't leave Before I give you this list. I need some chia seeds and I also need another fan. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:11:50 And I need some fish oil pills. That would be great. Yeah. So Garsell's like, yeah, this pisses me off because I don't think Rinna's giving me the benefit of the doubt. Well, guess what? That's what you get for going against Rinna because now Rinna is going to act like she wants to be friends with you and then completely dog pile you the second she can.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Right? Yep, that's exactly right. That's how it works. Like she's been waiting for this moment and now she can get everybody against you. Yeah. And so, Kathy keeps saying, can you stay? Can you stay? Can you stay?
Starting point is 00:12:19 Are you leaving because they don't have straws here because that's actually a pretty good reason. Yeah, that's understandable. So she's like, you know, it wasn't my attention. You know, she shared a lot. She shared a lot, you know, it wasn't all right. And so, guys, let's come on. Come sit down for a minute. Come on, sit down.
Starting point is 00:12:34 So Garsell's gonna be awake for five more minutes. So just give me that. Come on, let's just do that, you know? So Garsell's like, look, you're not, and you're important to me, Erica. And this isn't important enough for me to, you know, like, you think I did this intentionally? I mean, come on, and Erica sells like, look, you're not, and you're important to me, Erica. And this isn't important enough for me to, you know, like, you think I did this intentionally? I mean, come on, and Erica's like,
Starting point is 00:12:49 it's all kind, it's all kind. You don't need to leave, you don't need to leave. And so she's done what she needed to do. She's thrown such a fit that now everyone is gonna feel terrible if she has to talk about this anymore. Yes, exactly. So Kyle's like, whatever's going on with Erica right now has to be major.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I mean, she looks broken. Okay, like my spice jars. She's basically like some poppy seeds on the floor of my kitchen, just totally broken. And by the way, nothing makes Kyle happier than when someone is broken. Okay. Now she can totally pounce. So Garso goes over to Erica and Erica just keeps going, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:13:33 It's fine. It's fine. She's like, but I wouldn't do anything to hurt you. It's okay. So they hug and Erica just keeps saying it's okay over and over. And Sutton's like, you know, this reaction is a little bit So they hug and Erica just keeps saying it's okay over and over and set and side You know this reaction is a little bit much And this isn't about Garceau. This is this is about Erica and her problems
Starting point is 00:13:54 And then she starts doing her performance art hand motions that don't make any sense So she starts she she gets her hand to like kind of claw mode But then she puts out her palm and then she starts drawing a circle in her palm. She's like, she's like, it makes me think that Erica, is Erica being honest with us? Yeah. I also like to, in during that moment, like right before she spoke,
Starting point is 00:14:20 when Erica was like, it's okay, it's okay. The camera is sort of like, you see sudden watching Erica and Garzalle in this moment, and Garce, Sutton has a full on, you know, like a Pam moment from the office. She just sort of like, look at the camera like, are you all seeing this? This is crazy, right?
Starting point is 00:14:37 Like this woman's a crook, right? I would be spying on you, that's right. Sutton is not buying this for one second. So Erica was like, well ladies, I think I need to go home because I do have things to take care of. And Carl's like, well obviously we want you here because this is better than beating Croquet balls in a park.
Starting point is 00:14:56 So love it if you could stay in there because like I appreciate the invitation, Carl, I really I do. Where would you like us to make your big, big, a smix to take with you? No. PK has taught me well. You should put a M&M in your belly button before you get on the road.
Starting point is 00:15:16 What's the PK every time? Yeah, Kyle's like, you're going home, like home LA or home in this general area, but you've never been to before I just just want to know where exactly you'll be Also someone posted Well, Sashalma Dia was saying that there was a clip of Erica in her looking to home getting all glammed up for Coachella And I wish I could remember where I saw that but Yeah, so that's what Eric has even talking about
Starting point is 00:15:45 at this point. So Garsell is just sitting there and then Rina and Kyle and to read all follow Erica out. So that leaves Garsell's Sutton and Crystal inside. So Sutton's like, yeah, okay Garsell. I'm just like, not really. Just you didn't do anything wrong. So outside, Kyle's like, I'm so sorry for what happened.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Even though it's mostly been me causing it all day. I know, even though I stoked the flames. And Rinna goes, well, we all know you're gonna open up when you're ready on your own time. So I push it. Oh, that's convenient. That's, that's, that's all right. Rinna is like just all about creating a warm environment for people to open up about their issues. She's not going to confront you at all about anything. No. Yep. So inside Crystal's like, but she didn't hear her. Erica probably didn't even know because her pain was okay, Crystal, but you needed to say that when Erica was in the room because you're still getting now, but it doesn't count. It's like, are you still afraid to go
Starting point is 00:16:41 against these girls or what's going on? So Garcell's like, well, I do think it's interesting that we're the ones who are here and the three that have been friends the most are out there. I mean, that does seem a little divided. It doesn't seem that interesting to me. I mean, to me, it seems like, well, they are the oldest friends. That actually, actually to me, that tracks. I know Garcell is like, I don't know what Garcell was actually
Starting point is 00:17:03 expecting in that moment for them all to stay. I don't know if it was she expected them to console Garsell or whatever. I think this is one of those rare instances where I have to say, you know, they are closer friends with Erica. They are doing no longer, no, her longer. So it does make a little bit of sense to me that they walked her out. But that being, yeah. Basically Garsell was just the one like to me,
Starting point is 00:17:25 Garsell was the one who just got shot on, not Erica. Garsell didn't do anything wrong. She said she brought up something that Erica had said herself. And then Erica threw a fit and made Garsell look like a villain to the point where now they're going to question Garsell as the villain. That's what Garsell the wrong, which is that she did not out soap opera. The soap opera person cameo person, right? Like she should have made herself, she should have made her, she should know how to, she's an actress. She should know how to make herself the victim in that moment.
Starting point is 00:17:53 She should have had a rival tantrum and then they could have a battle of tantrums and then everyone would have been so confused as to what to do. But Garza, you'll let me go learn. Now she knows, now she knows. The reason that she said that was, that it was weird is because she's the one who just got screamed in the all that by some crazy person and they're outside consoling the person who was a monster. Yeah, the monster right? Yeah, who's involved in a criminal case. So then so now the woman are back in and run as like, I'm cold
Starting point is 00:18:23 I'm freezing. Oh, yeah, so cold. So suddenly, like, well, we got to get back on our feet and pray for her and help her when we can. And by helper, I mean, let's all have a meeting without her and make sure we can kick her out of the group before we all get dragged down into this vortex. Okay. Yeah, good for her, by the way. So we're in this like, well, I don't think it's going to get better any time soon I'm just so sad. I'm so sad that this happened That this moment happens I'm so sad that Garsell did this to all of us
Starting point is 00:18:55 Think I garsells like if somebody would have said that that's the question that would push her over You better fucking believe I wouldn't have asked that question. So then Rina of all people, Lisa Rina says, so why did you feel like you had to ask that in that moment? Lisa Rina, the woman who said to to read out a restaurant, were people doing coke in your bathroom at your party? Is now questioning why Garcell asked, said had a very simple basic, you know, comment amongst friends quietly. No, you know what makes this even worse for Rina? Is Rina is completely putting Garsell in a villain mode right now in the villain role right now and trying to turn everybody against her. It's like obvious what she's doing, right?
Starting point is 00:19:35 We've all seen this show for years. And she was the one who said on her Instagram that it was producer's meddling. So she knows that this was the producer's fault. She knows it is. and she's still trying to pin it on Garsell on camera. Well, it really goes just that's like an extra level of shitty. But you know also Ronnie that if on Real House House of Beverly Hills the cast members are notorious for always misjudging where they think the audience loyalties will be. And I think, remember, I think these women think that the audience are going to be super pro Erica.
Starting point is 00:20:09 So she's like banking on like, oh, they're going to hate Garsell because Garsell was anti-Arica. So now she has to like, now she has to change it up and on social media, like exonerate Garsell, you know, because they every season, they always pick the wrong side of what the audience wants, which is actually one of the great genius parts of this franchise. Right, so Garsell's like, well, look, I thought she was sharing so much. I mean, when I came in, you guys said, oh, she's been sharing this, she's been sharing that. And Dreeke goes, yes, but she did say she didn't want to talk about it. And Garsell's like, no, she did not say that. And
Starting point is 00:20:45 Drik goes, Oh, but she did say, Oh, she said it to you, crystal. Yes. And so crystal's like, yeah, but Garcell wasn't there. It's like, well, are we sure that that's even what she's upset about? Investigator to read trying to get to the bottom of this. So, so then Garcell's like, look, she's upset about a lot of things. It just comes out, I get it. So Garcell and Crystal just like,
Starting point is 00:21:11 they decide to leave, go back to their hotel room. And Dorit's like, well, I was literally just stress eating right now because it's so stressful. You know, you really learned so many things from your mate. You know, I learned stress eating from PK and from me, he learns accents. I don't really know what he learns from me, but stress eating, you know, I learned stress eating from PK and from me, he learns Accents, I don't really know what he learns from me, but stress eating. That's what I've taken on So in crystal and grass seller outside and grass cells like well, that's unfortunate because I feel like a lot of people aren't on my side And crystal says well, I mean sides are weird because there shouldn't really be size
Starting point is 00:21:39 She says oh, but there are that's how it it is. It's like welcome season one lady. I know about to learn. You're about to learn how this so works, right? Yeah, and Garsell's like, you know, I'm starting to sense that there's an inner circle in this group. I'm like, really Garsell? What was the indication of that?
Starting point is 00:22:00 I have. They literally called themselves the Fox Force 5 or whatever it is on Twitter. On Instagram. The dream team. So then Rina is inside going, you know, I don't think it's who is she talking to you? I guess the girl. She's like, yeah, she's telling the girls. I don't think it's our job to ask questions. And then she wants to share it. I mean, if you've already been asking questions, you know, and then we see a clip of Garsell asking if Erica was going to have to go to court and was he in the hospital and you had
Starting point is 00:22:29 no idea this was going on. And Rina is like, yeah, you don't need to ask any more questions. That's too many. Rina, the game's harder. The prime shits are for the past six years on this show or however many years she's been on, who always, like, I mean, that's Rinna's best quality, right? Is that when things are getting dull, she'll just ask that question that just is so inappropriate at that moment, but it galvanized it.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Now she's acting like it's a crime to poke, ask some benign questions amongst friends, quote unquote, friends, right? So then they're starting talking about Erica and how she had been waiting, you know, talking about like this reaction and they're like, well, she was waiting for a transcript or something from Chicago. Yeah, I was going to say, because I'm sorry, I totally zoned out and forgot what I was going to say, but Kyle has been the one, like she's telling Kyle this and Kyle has been the one all day who's like, oh, really? A house? Well, let's see about that. I can look at that. I'm going to look up to see where this house is. So every time Erica walks into a room.
Starting point is 00:23:29 I was like, Erica, so what about Tom cheating? Do you think Tom has another family? Erica, I got one day. And Rin is like, well, yeah, people shouldn't be asking questions like that. Fucking yourself. So then they're reading a headline about something. And there's a headline that says that there's an involuntary bankruptcy petition being filed and we're like, what does that mean? And then all the girls all at once go involuntary. What does it mean? What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:23:56 Involuntary. So ultimately, it means that in a divorce, she would expect to get 50%, but not that everything is going into bankruptcy. The New Yorker won't get her time. Not been done! So then they're like, okay, well, there's not really anything else to talk about. So let's get dinner. So, Kathy's like, oh, well, you know what's really good? Ruth's Chris, yeah, they have sweet potato casserole.
Starting point is 00:24:20 They have lobster mac and cheese, a big potato, spinach, seared, ahi tuna, barbecue shrimp, crab cakes, all that stuff, potatoes, onion rings, free shoes. You can just go there and get a free shoe, just take it off someone's foot, tablecloth, just like making bar faces. And Sutton's doing it with her,
Starting point is 00:24:40 because she was just saying the sweet potato casserole. So she like made the bar face with Trina. But then, every piece of food, Trina was like, Why would you bring food into this? Just because I said I was hungry for dinner, it doesn't mean you have to tell me about food. Yeah, and it's just like, I was talking about the sweet potato casserole.
Starting point is 00:25:03 So then, Trina is in a Gucci jumpsuit. She's like, I got this today. And you know, it's like the getting ready for dinner and showing off expensive clothes part of the episode. And Kathy is with Sutton and she passes by her and Sutton's like, Kathy, I'm going to do a dangle earring. Do you think that's gonna work? And she's like, oh, looks adorable. But that necklace is a little daytime, which is just such an amazingly devastating Kathy Hilton blow, right? When she says that necklace is a little daytime,
Starting point is 00:25:36 there's layers to that. That means, well, you just sort of look like a basic slut from 1992, but if you want to wear it, fine. So then we have Kyle, Kyle trying to master the complicated art of getting ice into a glass. She's just like at her fridge and she's putting a glass into a spencer and she's like, guys, I can't make the ice machine work and all the ice is just like falling onto the floor to be fair. Whoever is in charge of modern refrigerators is a real fucking
Starting point is 00:26:06 asshole. I'll tell you that right now. They've changed the way refrigerators work, okay? Like now the my sister has one where you put the glass, okay, where you would think it pushes the little tab in and then water comes out, right? So then you push it in to get ice, but no, oh no, no, that's what you push in to get ice. So then you press the water thing and then the water comes out of different spot and goes all over the floor. Like you have to know where to position the glass.
Starting point is 00:26:32 I, my previous fridge had a situation where you would go to get the ice and go, mmm, and you're like, okay, it's you do it again, you're like, mmm, you like do it like three more times, it sounds like it's trying to make ice, but there's no ice. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm in Kyle Richards case, she just was like pressing the thing with her hand and had the glass just like next to it. I don't believe that this was their refrigerator's fault. I think this was user error. So anyway, Doreet comes in dressed in some see-through outfit with like a thong and a bikini top or something, but it's like really fancy and sparkly. And when it's like, oh my God, Doreet,
Starting point is 00:27:22 that's Gucci, that that's Gucci that is fabulous fabulous and Kathy is like why would you waste an outfit like that on a night with the girls? Because it's rented Kathy that shit was borrowed from some stylist. Oh, she's only got it for two more days Yeah, exactly that's fun. I didn't even think about that. So, um, yes, um, sun's like, nothing says girls not in like, dancer goes to Vegas. I think I might be underdressed. And it just cuts back to Kyle, still just spilling ice everywhere. Guys, guys, it's just like a lot of gravity really works against her in that kitchen, you
Starting point is 00:28:02 know. No wonder why she couldn't execute her perfect lasagna, you know? A lot of difficulties. And Sutton is dressed like Cher from Clueless. She is. She's comparing where her story line goes. And so she's really funny. So then Rina and Sutton are talking and Rina is like,
Starting point is 00:28:18 is that real? That bracelet? Of course, it's vintage Cartier, Lisa Rina. She's like, what? You are so fucking rich. I forget. Thanks for, thanks for reminder. I will not go have to you this season.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Thank you, you are rich, you are rich. We're gonna keep you on the good side. So Crystal and Garsell arrive, everyone is like, ah, look how good you've got you all look. I'm just gonna say it. Ah, cheers, huh, so that cheers and then Kathy sneezes. She's home just a little burry. I'm cold little burry And she sneezes though. She's sitting right next to Doree. Okay, so Doree's right here and Kathy goes like this
Starting point is 00:29:01 Joe! She moves her hand to put it right into reach space. And just go... I mean, what's the point of being rich if you don't have people to sneeze on, am I right? So, Kyle... I didn't ram out of toilet paper. I just ran out of Dorit. During quarantine. I ran out of poor people heads.
Starting point is 00:29:25 So Kyle announces that she texted with Erica. And Garsell is like, oh, I sent her a text also. And Kyle's like, you, I just choked on my Kyle impersonation guys. Adoring the word Kyle made me choke. But Kyle's like, you sent her a text and you could tell at that moment there was like a tinge of jealousy that like Garsell might have better access to Erica than Kyle does. And Kyle's like, well, did she respond? She goes, well, I didn't expect one. I just said, sorry, you know, and she tells us that she knows where she's coming from. So she, her conscience is clear. And Kyle goes, well, next time she sees you, I mean, she's not going to be mean.
Starting point is 00:30:05 She's not going to be a bitch. She's just not going to trust you. And that's just how it is. And she's like, fine, you know, she's in my opinion. It feels like, okay, but there's nothing I did intentionally. And when it goes, wow, you know what? Is there anything you can own in it? Why does she have to own anything?
Starting point is 00:30:25 And Garcell's like, excuse me? She's like, well, Garcell needs to check herself as to why she does what she does. I mean, she throws little darts and people are like, oh, and we see a montage of Garcell asking questions. Just like basic questions, some of them are passive-aggressive, but it's also Garcell being like, I'm on the show. I've got a job to do.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I don't think anything she did any of these were bad at all. She's she mentioned that what we see why Rena hates her ass because she said, you know, why is it that every time Erica brings up being in Chicago? Rena has to say, oh, I did that. I mean, that was true. Sorry. You don't like being called out. Or when you talk about your daughter's body image and make her bulimia your storyline for the season You're also going on Instagram and dancing or around in a thong I think those are valid questions. I think so too. Ronnie. I'm so sorry. I have to go the bathroom This is like you do. Okay. Well, hi everybody. I'll crap and it's on demand. It's just me Just what I've always wanted It's just me. Just what I've always wanted. Okay, so here's what's happening right now.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Ben is looking at his own penis. You think about that. He's holding it. Peace coming out of it. Just staring at it. I don't want to think about it. I'm not this gross. I mean, we all have one, but we're not all of us.
Starting point is 00:31:40 You might not have one. Okay, so here's what happens. Um, Rina's like, you know what? This is not somebody who has your back. And that's what I'm trying to get Garcell to take a little peak hat. Just take a little peak hat at Garcell. Take a peak. So she says again, is there any part in this that you can own Garcell? And she's like, ab, solutely, not. So Garcell tells us, you know, Rina feels like I asked so many questions, but after seeing the way she treated Denise, I think that's a little hypocritical.
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Starting point is 00:33:37 I don't know what happened, but like five minutes prior, I got that. I was like, what? And I was like, it's okay. I was like, I'll make, I'll make it. And then I was like, it's okay. I was like, I'll make it and then I was like, This is not this is not waiting for anyone. So you know, I never want to leave a live recording Were you just monologuing for five minutes here or yeah, I just did the recap without you Okay, so we're at the part where Ruth's dinner risk Chris dinner has just arrived You really did do that? Yeah. Wait, I'm not
Starting point is 00:34:08 running. We're on a schedule here. We're on a schedule here. Oh, my goodness. I cannot believe that. Feel free to add anything. I just said what happened basically. Well, now we've got to find out where Chris dinner is. Um, Garsell has just said, um, basically refused to apologize, but then finally, Renna got her to say, you know, I guess that I, um, you know, I guess I overstepped and Renna's like, wow, okay, wow, you did it. You owned it. You owned it, Garsell. So then dinner comes and, uh, Sutton and Sal, talk a little bit about how they match, but Garth Sal's still not in the mood, you know.
Starting point is 00:34:50 So then they all sit down to have dinner and Rinna's like, we gotta eat you guys, we gotta eat you guys. And is sitting there with a huge pile of macaroni and cheese on her plate, which I really wish they could focus on a little bit more on the show because I didn't buy it. I don't buy that as much as I don't buy Erica's storyline. Is that huge heap of mac and cheese? I'm still don't know. I'm still trying to, I still don't know where you are in this.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I'm sorry. I'm trying to find mac and cheese in my nose desperately. But what I did is we forget to pay the heating bill. Where's the sweet potato? Okay, where's the sweet potatoes? Now I know. You just need to anchor me with Kathy, okay? With fear.
Starting point is 00:35:31 And said and said, is there anything that anyone would like while we're still behind the bar? And Kathy says, a glass. I really don't like drinking out of plastic, do we? And then Rina's like, this is one of the best burgers I've ever had. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. You want the best burgers I've ever had. What best burgers I've ever had. I'm not sure if I trust Rina and her burger, her like burger criticism or
Starting point is 00:35:52 critiques or her yelp reviews on burgers. The lady who claims to eat a hot dog one time a year on Kathy's like, well, I feel like we're missing someone. Yeah, it's Erica. No, someone else. Erica. No, mm-hmm, someone else. Erica. No, no. The lady who was married to the really old person, Erica.
Starting point is 00:36:11 No, she had a house here, but she didn't know where she... What an idiot. Didn't know where her own house went. Erica! Yeah, so then Rin is like, Hey, let's play a game, okay? And so once again, we get the montage of games that go wrong, you know, and Rin is like, Hey, let's play a game. Okay. And so once again, we get the montage of games that go wrong, you know, and risk like, so I want to play a happy game, a happy game. And Crystal's like,
Starting point is 00:36:31 is there any situation where you'd want to play a sad game? And Kathy goes, Oh, we'll get to those games. But also, Kathy kind of ruins Rina's game because this is the game where Rina's like, Hey, everybody, we should play a game. Garsal, how do you feel about betraying Erica? Yeah. How do you feel about it? You know, that's what was coming, right? But it's dead. Kathy goes, well, actually, do they start talking about this now where she says?
Starting point is 00:37:00 Well, yeah, she got Kathy because Kyle starts laughing about how the night before they were joking about how, um, Confucius, right, Confucius. So, um, so she's just like laughing about how like, oh my god, you guys thought I was being racist. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, and then Kathy goes, oh, well, uh, Chris, she just looks at Crystal and goes, well, I heard you had an issue with someone saying, I don't see color. You know, Michael Jackson and I grew up together, okay? And Michael said, Kathy, I don't see color.
Starting point is 00:37:34 And I said, neither do we. I'm like, let's not like go to Michael Jackson as like our source for race relations. The guy literally made his skin white. I mean, don't tell me you didn't see color. Yeah, Michael was a good friend of mine. And something's like, I'm going to stick to my cream spinach. Okay, that's what I'll be doing over here. So Garthsel says, well, look, I know you understand. I know that you
Starting point is 00:37:57 can see me as a mother and as a woman and as a friend. But if you don't see color, you don't see me. And Kathy is just kind of thinking that over. And Garcelle tells us, you know, Kathy sings, she doesn't see color as her wave saying, I love everybody, but we've moved on from that. And now I need you to see my color. I'm a black woman. And that's what shows up before my intelligence and before my fashion, that walks into the room before anything else. And I need for you to see it. Yeah. So then Kyle is trying to cover for Kathy and say, well, I think that what she's saying is that she sees everyone is equal, right?
Starting point is 00:38:31 Equally less rich than she is, right? And Garth's also like, Garth's also like, but we're not equal. And Kathy, well, I think we are, which is funny that Kathy, this super rich lady is saying that we're all equal when she's like literally, literally like in like this top top of this pyramid right. So Doreet's a Doreet's like, well what are we? Why aren't why aren't we all equal? Why aren't we
Starting point is 00:38:56 all equal? And Garsell is like, well, we're not treated equally as you are. And Garsell and she goes, do you, does anyone here have adult children here who's with, that you have to say, be careful if the cops pull you over because you might get shot and they're all like, mmm, Kathy's like, well, I do have an adult child who if you get pulled over, I say,
Starting point is 00:39:19 be careful you might get shot by the paps. Is that the same thing or no? And they're like, no, no, never. And so she tells us how worried she is when her son gets pulled over. And Carl's like, you know, we can all say we're equal, but I've never walked in Garcels shoes. And then to reach and then to enter to reach. Oh my god. Great moment for to read here. To read. So like, well, you know, I grew up in a family where you could never say you disliked someone or treat them differently or you better I grew up and grouse
Starting point is 00:39:50 so goes okay but just because you've grown up like that doesn't mean that that's how I've experienced life and she's of course not that's not it all what I'm saying do you have Chanel plates I would never suggest that you did I'll tell you that right now. I eat off of Gucci's ass, super to say. And so, Crystal's like, well, I wish I grew up in a house where everybody was considered the same, because I grew up hearing that I had to protect myself because people are gonna attack me and treat me badly, and you know, in a lot of ways I was.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Yeah, she talks about how, you know, her parents, like, people would make fun of her, make fun of her eyes and her parents wouldn't engage because they were afraid of themselves of getting hurt, etc. And Kathy is like, well, you know, I just don't want to sit down with a four-year-old and point out to these like innocent little minds about all this stuff and Garceau is like, I agree, but if it's going to be, but I will say it to a four-year-old if he's black. And so now to read it's like, well, I've always said to my kids, you guys, it doesn't matter the color of the skin. We have, we have a lot of people who work for us who are very multicultural, a lot of black, Hispanic, and Filipino.
Starting point is 00:41:02 The truth is, anyone from any race can work in my household. My god, she's like most of the people my kids have loved all the most dark skinned Garsell's like so I'm it's like So are there only are the only brown people at your house to help. And then there's a long pause. And to reach like, no! Why? My mother's best friend is black.
Starting point is 00:41:32 You have to go a generation up and then to the right. My mother's best friend. You've been to my house. See, there's another black person. See? See? I'm very diverse. And so Garcell goes awesome.
Starting point is 00:41:47 I just want to glorify that. The most awkward eyes. And so Tari tells us, which is another reason Tari is probably super pissed by the end of the season at Garcell. And she's like, not only brown people work at my house, Garcell has been to my house. She knows that.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Did I ask her to bring me a tray of sushi? Sure, but I'm gonna put the frame. It's what friends do. Friends work for you, right? So, Garsell is like, Garsell at this point is like, I've had enough of this ridiculous conversation with these women right now.
Starting point is 00:42:21 So she just sort of puts a bow on it and says. I'm gonna put the stone on my head. Yeah. She's like, she just puts a bow on it and says, yeah, she's like, she's just puts a bow on it and says, well, these are tough conversations to have. And we're just like, it's heavy, it's heavy. And Crystal says, actually, Rina says, actually, Rina says, dark, dark. Oh, she's like, oh, my God. So Crystal goes, well, you said nice games are a dark game. When this is the game, game this is the game I don't like this game ah It's like that's got to sick. I don't like this game. Yeah, what we're gonna blame Garsell for some stuff
Starting point is 00:42:51 Come on guys So Karles like um, okay guys well dinner's over so can everyone do me a favor It just rinse your plate off and put it in the dishwasher that would make my life so much easier and to read it's like Oh, Kyle next time you host could you get some help please the dishwasher that would make my life so much easier. And Dereet's like, oh Kyle, next time you host could you get some help, please. And Dereet's like, Kyle, what kind of vacation is this? We dress for dinner, not for dishes. So she's like really upset that they have to clean their dishes and she's trying to say things like, oh, what I'm saying is that, you know, we could all chip in and we could just have someone here who could do this for us
Starting point is 00:43:28 Like it's a money thing. Yeah, I know It's so ridiculous. So Carl's like oh Jesus you think I was asking her to detail my car So crystal and garcelle get the hell out of there, right? So Rin is like wow you guys who's hard to day? I'm so sad Erica's not here. Yes, I'm Mr. Absence. I really, I really felt her absence tonight. Erica never even says anything. What are you guys talking about? Erica's like a house plant with fucking weave on.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Talking about. Yes, she literally contributes nothing to these scenes, except, you know, lies about her marriage. Oh, God, one thing I love about Tom, he's just so, so mentally aware, or even at 81, and he loves this so much. That's like every scene before this season. So now, Rinna, I mean, now Kyle, it's like,
Starting point is 00:44:24 well, I guess it's time to be wacky. So let me tell everyone that Rinna shared that Harry has acrylic nails. Like, what? And so then they get Harry to text a photo of him with his nails because he likes to play guitar. He doesn't like to use a pick. And so then he sends a picture where he's got acrylic nails. And they like to like lose their shit like they've never seen a man with nails before they Like Kyle is like Carl is so beside herself she goes he's not Call people magazine. He's going for the sexiest hand alive
Starting point is 00:44:58 And then she does this to us which Kyle is so insecure about her hands and You know like doing the razzle dazzle thing on TV. It's like the cast of Jurassic Park doing the opening number from Chicago. What is she doing? Yeah. So then in the morning, with Garcell comes out and they have some coffee
Starting point is 00:45:17 and talk about Erica, does she text you back? And then at the main house, we are, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop. And Kyle blue blue blue girls like Rina oh my god it's the LA Times. Yeah the LA Times so um Crystal starts reading it and they all are kind of reading it and Kyle's doing her like she's like it's bad it's bad like she you know she just wants to just like smile like oh my god this is gonna be so hilarious to dive into so Rana's like it's just too long. It's gonna take me I just need bullet points. I need bullet points or Harry. I'm going to read it to me too long
Starting point is 00:45:54 Yeah, so this is like house-wise story reading hour They read the article and the little clips they put up are Tom stands accused of stealing millions of dollars from vulnerable clients including Indonesian children orphaned by a plank crash and a burden victim in the Pacific Gas and Electric Pipeline explosion. He's bristled at allegations that he diverted firm assets for lavish living, but his lawyers admitted in court this week that he has been unable to tell them what happened to the money.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Yeah, so this was a pretty big article. I remember reading it and it was a long ass article and it was very damning. I mean, this was like, this was like proper journalism. This was not radar online as they say on this. And when you read this article, it is actually very, very bad, right? And the part that gets to Erica, company officials noticed
Starting point is 00:46:44 as its chief executive officer would later write in a sworn affidavit that very substantial sums denominated as loans were going from firm accounts to EJ global LLC, the company set up for James performing career, the amount transferred top $20 million according to the affidavit. So now, suddenly comes downstairs. She is, she is rarant dive into this. She's like, good morning. And like, did you read it? She's like, oh, I read it.
Starting point is 00:47:12 And not only did I read it, I became a lawyer overnight. And I will give you all the legal advice from here forward. All right, they use the word Ponzi scheme. Ponzi, do you know what that is? So sushi, that's Ponziukile, that's Ponziukile. And Do you know what that is? Oh sauce with sushi. That's ponzu Kyle. That's ponzu Ponzi and then Kyle's like oh, they're taking Peter to pay for paul taking Peter to pay for paul Sorry, that was my also my audition my log that got me little house in the prairie. Thank you. Thank you very much I'm gonna say come let's think about when made off was going through this ha ha ha this screams Ponzi
Starting point is 00:47:43 It screams it. Yeah, but was Ruth made off implicated and that whole thing? She as well, she wasn't implicated. She did not go to jail, but here's the tricky part. If Erica's business was in her name and she was accepting these funds, that's trouble. That is not good. And Carol's like,
Starting point is 00:47:57 what's gonna happen to Erica? Oh, no, sorry, that's for now. And it's like, well, there's gonna have to be some kind of reconciliation where she has to go to court And if she did receive $20 million from that firm, that money should be going back to the victims So they're like, but where is the money? Is it frozen? Where is it and certain things that's gone? And they're like, yeah, she's fucked basically. Yeah, and they just keep asking sudden all the questions as if she As if she wrote the article that someone actually read it.
Starting point is 00:48:26 You know? But I think they also know that Sutton has probably already called her lawyer to make sure that she is safe. And her lawyer was probably like, okay, here's the situation with Erica. This is what you have to know. And you're okay now,
Starting point is 00:48:39 but you probably should stay away from her before you get drawn into this mess, right? Like, that's probably what happened. That's why she's talking so authoritatively. So then, um, Garcell's reading it and she's like, I can't imagine every day you wake up and there's something new. I mean, it's hard. It's hard when people know stuff and they don't even know you, you know, and, and, you know, she's saying, like, this is not a tabloid. This is the LA Times and, and, uh, now she's like, oh, okay, so this is why she flipped out at me. She had to have known this article was coming out
Starting point is 00:49:08 and she flipped out, it could have happened to anyone. It could have happened to, they keep acting as if it was like a tree fell over on the street and crushed someone's car. Could have happened to anyone. Erica James. Well, this is, yeah, Erica is obviously now, it seems obvious that she was just causing a big drama
Starting point is 00:49:23 so she could leave and get the hell out of here and not have to explain to anybody, right? So Doreet comes down and she's like, oh my God, girls It's like he's been running his business like a fun to scheme He comes in and punches the jeet box every morning and money from playing crash victims just holds that makes it rain all over him Talk about jumping the shock which he coming ham That makes it rain all over him. Talk about jumping the sock which he coming ham Dree-dree no, it's not that it's called a onesie scheme It's where you put all your crimes into one thing and zip it up and then it's cozy and adorable and you go to sleep with your crimes
Starting point is 00:49:59 It's like the little man from lethal weapon very upset in the scheme. That's Joe Pesci. It doesn't even rhyme with Fom. It doesn't even rhyme. Or whimsy. Come on. It's like, it's like those schemes where it's running out of time and the schemes biological clock is going like this. So the three, that's Marisa Tome and my cousin Vizzy. Vinnie, just because we mentioned Joe Pesci, does why? No. Marissa tome and my cousin Vizzy Vinnie just because we mentioned Joe Pesci does why no
Starting point is 00:50:32 So they start talking about the victim something's like with the bow and victims on the whole thing that breaks me And something's like yes and burn victims a group of women and Rina's like yes, you know the hormone because they got cancer because they took the certain hormone and all of those women as well. And they're like, yeah, this is really, really bad. And so, Rin is like, well, we all know it's terrible. We just all know that it's really, really terrible. Yeah. And somewhere in the middle of this, because I got the loss of my notes. Yeah, again, Kyle's like, if I have 20 million in my account, whether it was over 20 years or one year, that would be very strange. But then again, I also know where my homes are and have been to them. I was like, oh Kyle, okay.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Well, look who suddenly is having a turn of something. Yeah, Kyle turned quick. Yeah, Kyle turned pretty quick because I figured she was going to be like on the Rinatrain where she's just going to stick no matter what, right? So Kathy says, what do you think she knew about the article coming out? Yeah, and she's like, they're like, yeah, that's why she left, you know, and, um, Sutton says, you know, I mean, have you have a business and not know? And, um, then we see the clips of Erica not knowing where her house is and stuff. And, and, and says, you know, well, here's what I think. Do you think Tom true already comes home and
Starting point is 00:51:44 says, Hey, how was your day? And then tells you all the cases he's working on it. Oh you know, well, here's what I think. Do you think Tom sure already comes home and says, Hey, how was your day? And then tells you all the cases he's working on it? Oh, by the way, I borrowed over here and then I'm a trouble here. And this and that, that's not happening with Tom. No, but this stuff was in the news page. This stuff has been in the papers for a long time. And you think the Eric of fucking sure he doesn't have a Google alert set up. I mean, Eric was, you know, subpoenaed. It's not like, I mean, give me a break. That's going a little far right now.
Starting point is 00:52:08 I fully believe, I believe it's totally reasonable to imagine that Tom was like, listen, I've got my guys, they're setting up the LC, everything you don't have to worry about. You just focus on your art and what you're doing. And like, I'll take care of the business side. I believe 100% that that was probably the case. But at the same time, the money is in your count.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And it seems like Erica didn't question anything in her marriage, right? And it's just very annoying to have to reconcile that aspect with an image I felt like she was trying to put forward of like, I'm a boss, be a job on top of everything. And I was like, oh, you just sort of went along with it for the ride, you know? And that's where, I've said this a million times,
Starting point is 00:52:54 but that's where I get frustrated. That's where I find it very annoying, like peddling one thing, but really the reality was, she just was, she was just very, very, it seems like she was very passive in this relationship. Not at all. If we are to believe if we are to believe it on face value. If we're to believe that on face value. And I absolutely don't. And at this point, she's looking so bad just because of all of this this entire season now leading up to this. It's so obvious what she's been trying
Starting point is 00:53:19 to do. And it's so fucking gross, I think. Sona's like, you know, I think she doesn't know anything. I mean, do you know how many times Harry's put a contract on the kitchen table and says, sign it? And I just do it. I mean, I sign everything, which I don't really believe from Rinna either, because Rinna's like, Miss Business, she's always making all these business deals. And I don't think that, I don't think that's true.
Starting point is 00:53:41 So Sutton's like, well, I hate to be Devil's advocate here. You know, maybe she didn't know, but if her name is on that LLC, she's responsible. And if this is her company and her name is on it, it's not good, she can go to jail. She says, listen, we're wealthy women, okay? We have LLCs. Your attorney watches you sign it,
Starting point is 00:54:00 which isn't necessarily always true. That's not true. But if the devil himself puts money in your LLC, you are responsible for that LLC. Yeah. And so Doreet's like, she's saying, like, well, the picture being painted here is that there's no money,
Starting point is 00:54:17 but they have a lavish lifestyle that they need to maintain. And by extension, that's Erica. I mean, it's like, yes, but that's also part of just being on the real housewives. Let's be also do weeks entire life. What is she talking about? They're constantly hopping around from houses that they invest some investment company
Starting point is 00:54:35 owns that their friends with or whatever that they're partnered with. I don't have any goddamn money either. And to read your next and I actually like to read, but God, I can't wait. I love to read. I can't win. I love to read, I love to read, despite her very problematic views on race relations and money. Literally everything else on the show. Everything else. Everything else.
Starting point is 00:54:52 But yeah, the Duret stuff is going to be good. I mean, just that lady following them around on their vacation screaming, when are you going to pay my friend for his bikinis? Yes. So, um, then comes, then after she, after Duret's, she's going to be like, well, I'm going to pay my friend for his bikinis? Yes, so then after she, after Tariq says, it seems like this was, they had no money and this was all in front. Then of course some very lucky editor over at Evolution got to do the montage of Erika
Starting point is 00:55:20 with money. It's like, he has a ring. Oh, I bought, look, this is a platypus I bought just for fun. Oh, it's a Lamborghini with a platypus And he has a tiara that I bought for the platypus. I don't know where the platypus came from, but I've just decided to go with it She just has an except a an overindulgent platypus There's a large platypus. We're playing a town. Everyone knows you gotta have a big plan for international, a little plan for domestic,
Starting point is 00:55:49 and a little plan for the platypus. And you know people online being like, how can you be so mean to Erica? You know, reading these threads and like she didn't. This is why people are so anti-Araka. Erica. Erica, because of clips like this, where it's just Erica going over the top, I mean, I think I'm going to get a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of Is this all just been a lie? And it's like, were we being duped?
Starting point is 00:56:25 Were we being duped? So then we get more of a certain Cirque de Soleil ham. She's like, I'm not sure what Erica fits this whole thing is, but I'm questioning it. Yeah. I'm questioning it. And Dorita's like, you know, like a very healthy meal to PK, this is all a bit hard to swallow, okay? Because I've known her for five years, you've known her for six years, you've known her for six years, and Kathy's like, I don't know her. I don't know her. She's I don't know her at all.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Keep my richness away from her richness. And so Doreet says, you know, this seems a little unfair because of course we want to support Erika, but we're blindsided. It's like when she flashed a virginie in front of PK's face. Was it because she was being sexy? Or could she just not afford on these? That's the question I'm at now. We don't know how to fill in the blanks or what questions to ask, but enough about the supermarket. Let's talk about Erica. Yeah, so they say they're
Starting point is 00:57:32 still worried about her because it's her freedom. It's her life at stake. And Kyle's like, okay, well, with her sharing all this new information with us about Tom's accident, then multiple affairs, that Tom's accident, then multiple affairs. Now I'm like, what else is going on and what else are you keeping from us? And just be honest, honest. Oh, no. Just be honest, I was in Halloween. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:58 So then back home, they're all back home. And we get a really incredible Kyle Hello on this one because she's saying how to read dogs. So she's saying, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The best Kyle Hello of the season.
Starting point is 00:58:14 And we've had a lot of them. Yeah. And then we have like Rob helping Chris a lot of the car and he's like, how was it? And she goes, well, I'm not crying. He's like, well, that's a good thing. Almost as good as the Lion King. So I'm not crying and that's how I gave trips now. So
Starting point is 00:58:30 So then boy George, of course, that messy ass calls Erica and he's wearing an upside down tree planter as a hat. I'm not really sure what he's wearing. I don't know, but I hope he doesn't run into anything because it's gonna focus damn eyes out. Yeah, and he's like, well, I've been reading all about Erica. Oh my God. What a sandstorm. And she's like, well, it's sad to read about all these victims. These orphans and victims. orphans and victims. orphans and widows. No widows widows. Who are victims?
Starting point is 00:59:02 And he cares like, well, listen now, babe. I know you're her friend, darling, but you can't support these allegations unless she promises you she didn't know. Which you know, as people say. I like that Erica would would promise, I'm gonna promise you I might have known. Oh, well, then we can't support. Of course she's gonna promise that you didn't know.
Starting point is 00:59:23 What does she gonna say? Yeah. So then boy George is like, well you know what I think, thank gold, it's not you darling. So then we go over to Sutton giving her dog water. Yeah. Of course the office. One of the office. The spark list is delivered. Yeah. And she's like, well, I read this article ad nauseam since I've been home. I mean, Erica probably knew more than this, more new about this than she went on. And there is no way that we've all left this weekend. Not wondering if the cons, if, oh, what the consequences are for Erica and for us. And at first, so it's like, shut up, the consequence. Like, how does this affect me? But then I guess I can see it because, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:06 they don't want to be called them to court for years as witnesses and all this. If you're super rich, the first order of business is the scatter. She's trying to figure out like, how do I lean into my normal impulse, which is to get as far away from this toxic person with the notion
Starting point is 01:00:26 that I am on a television show. She didn't know how do I do this properly. So, so then Kyle, so Kyle's calling to read and she's like, my mind is absolutely racing. Did you know that Ponzi was not a condiment? I am still racing from that. Anyway, I mean, what were we dumping our dumplings in anybody that's actually a question call asks a lot what was I dumping my what was I putting my dumpling in last night so she just mayonnaise or gasoline guys I didn't know so Kyle's like no there is a thought the Erica maybe knew something and is covering for Tom, which is Kyle's way of saying she's fucking guilty and I'm going to use my Kyle ways to bring it out to bring it out into light.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Well Kyle's hedging her bets right now because she knows probably by this point that the audience is having a fit right because they've been able to see this interview look that she's in right now It's one of her new ones meaning and obviously just time duh the way time works They all know this article comes out so they've all seen the audience reaction I'm trying to come up with clues and I'm like literally there was a timestamp on the LA Times article QE They read they saw the internet times article QE. They read they saw the internet. magically Kyle. Kyle.
Starting point is 01:01:50 So they know in these interviews that they're giving how the world is reacting to all of this news and it's not good. And so this puts Kyle in a really weird place because Kyle is like, I'm, I want to stick by air. She's gone so hard for Erica all these years and they've teamed up together to get everybody off that they don't like. So she doesn't want to be hated by the audience. So she's going to try and pull that. I'm against you in my interview, but I'm for you in person. She is going to start pivoting. She's going to try to set Erica up in this whole situation where she is going to start to feel like she has been lied to. And therefore, while she did support Erica because she is a great friend, she also feels like Erica was not honest with her. And therefore that justifies her now throwing Erica under the bus for the rest of the season
Starting point is 01:02:33 if possible. I don't think she's going to throw her that far under the bus. I mean, just judging by their Instagram. So I mean, Erica's birthday. They think, Oh my God, beautiful Erica. Happy birthday, honey pie or whatever. So I think she's still trying to maintain the relationship for the popularity reasons or whatever, but on the lotion, it's going to be interesting to watch Kyle play this because she's the biggest phony baloney ever.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Listen, Kyle has played this right because she already got her free trip to Greece on the private plane. Okay. So she already, she got everything she needed out of this relationship. She got a nice photo doing splits and the greech and sunset. So, you know, she is, she is hedging, but she is going to start pivoting towards the, just be honest. I just feel like Erica, you're not honest with me. I'm a good friend. You should tell me. So basically, she's talking to Daryen. They don't know how to deal with this, but Sutton called and she wants to have a meeting with everybody except for Erica
Starting point is 01:03:27 A meeting a meeting you're going to So they go to it's gonna be at Daryt house and Daryt puts out like this whole spread and there's like gingerbread cookies that Phoenix made and Phoenix is like but I made those She was like I know sugar blossom, but that's why I'm saving it to the friends. You know that Phoenix was like, no, I made them for me, mother. I'm going to tell the goose that the little girl who keeps showing up at me house made them. Aren't you proud? Go back home to wherever that is. So, um, Dorees talking to her assistant Ashley, he's like, just looking at her like, what? And she's like, Ashley!
Starting point is 01:04:09 My girlfriend wanted to set up a meeting and she said it's really urgent. And Ashley's like, okay. Where we all meet at your house. And I said, okay, absolutely. I don't really know what's going to happen, but you know what I think it's time we do it. And I was just like, okay, okay. I'm your assistant, just tell me and I'll make the calls. So Rino shows up with a gift.
Starting point is 01:04:35 She has a panatone, which has clearly made its rounds through all Beverly Hills, because there ain't no lady in Beverly Hills who's eating a morsel of panatone. Is a panatone, panatone? But you know, it's like it's been regifted for like five Christmas isn't a lot more. Yeah, it is like perfectly preserved in like a huge amount of brandy and it just gets passed around from household to household. I got you a pantone pant pantie and pantie.
Starting point is 01:05:03 No one's gonna touch that thing ever. Doreka's how do you say it Penton what he is how you say it's in Italian Pantona no it's not Doreed so cr- Joe Pantleoni so Doreed is about Doreed too Crystal comes over and she says you my dear I'll in to get a Gucci glass. So thirsty. Nobody cares what kind of glass it is except for people. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Except Teddy bear and camp. Teddy bear and camp. So then she was like, oh, well, you know, I just threw this all together with stuff I had in the fridge, which is lies because none of that stuff was in the fridge. Right. There's not a casual bone in this gross body, okay? Yeah, so then Kyle, everybody basically comes over and Vrin is like,
Starting point is 01:05:50 Whoa, last night, I had to put my phone downstairs and I went to bed and I woke up and came downstairs and I was like, oh, normally I see all that stuff, it was crazy Kyle. Yep, and Kyle, yeah, Kyle Kyle's like I open my Instagram and Erica's posting pictures. So this was the big thing that happened on Instagram where Erica posted like you know text from Tom's mistress or whatever which then later turns out there were from 2016 but you know it was a whole sort of weird embryo and you just kind of like- Or 2011, I don't even remember the year,
Starting point is 01:06:28 but it was so far before it was hilarious that she tried to get away with that. It's like posting pictures from some jitterbug. Jitter. And she's like, I think both of you had the lead. Yeah, it's like the fabric, the cloth over the photographer
Starting point is 01:06:44 and everyone has a standstill for 18 minutes. So it's a little robot girl from that TV show, Vicki. Vicki? Vicki the little robot girl. Just random stills, just random stills from small under. Ericka's like, yeah, and anybody knows this slut, justice, Trisha Bigelow, fuck her. People are like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:07:07 This is so old, so it was taken down. And of course, Remy gets in there. Well, she said her divorce lawyer called in. That's why she took it down. And also, because she's a big fat fucking liar too, is why she took it down. So then Kyle, of course, makes it about her. She goes, well, I just don't understand why hasn't
Starting point is 01:07:24 she been more open with us. I mean why hasn't she shared this with us? I don't know why she would post on Instagram right now, but I think so many people think that divorces a hoax and she's letting people know it's not a hoax. I just don't know why she doesn't share it with us right now. I'm like maybe it's because you're the biggest gossip there is on this show, Kyle. Yeah, because sharing it with you is going to ruin her life. Kyle. Yes. Because sharing it with you is going to ruin her life. Okay. That's why I like. I like how I'm like angry that Erica's not up front about her marriage. But then like when Kyle's like, why is she up front? I'm like, that's because it's her business. Kyle. Well, yeah. I mean, you got to be with Erica on that at least. Why would you tell these idiots?
Starting point is 01:08:00 You know, what is what have they ever done good for anybody in all of these years, right? So, Kyle's like, Kyle's talking about it in the post and the post was about this justice and Garsell's like, oh, I didn't see that. Oh, my God. And then Garsell's like, well, but wait, I asked her if there was a third party involved and it's four weeks earlier and Garsell's telling Erica, well, I have a girlfriend who said that she's seen Tom at a restaurant with someone who's 60 years old and blonde and Erica going, well, I don't know about that, but I guess it's possible. Yeah, exactly. It's like way to be, it's like another example of Erica being a
Starting point is 01:08:41 little, you know, shifty with the truth there, right? So now Sun shows up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Our Sunstrak have called this mean to order for the sisters of Capacapa Gamma and their friends. All right, I have reservations about what happened in Larkenta and what was said. I left Larkenta, then, then, then then something is a miss and I'm sorry to be jumping into it But I have to get it out there. I think that we are being placed in a bad position Rina Well, I think that we've heard stories that to me do not add up and I left yesterday Concerned and then I started thinking and my lawyers were going off red not add up and I left yesterday concerned and then I started thinking
Starting point is 01:09:25 and my alarms were going off red flags started flying and I said what have we gotten ourselves into my old house oh I thought you asked what have you gotten yourselves to rent into okay go on no cow we all know that Teddy made it to the alarm bells do not ring in that house in case anybody wants to come by and steal dollars for the merchandise. Okay. So, Chris says like, what are you saying? And Carl says, it sounds like you're basically saying, we don't believe you, Erica, and we think you're guilty. And it's like, well, I have questions.
Starting point is 01:09:58 And I know this much. I'm not sure how much I want to be around my friend during this time. And they're like, oh, to be continued. To be continued. So they're all shocked that she would say that mainly because they can't believe anyone would not want to be close to Erica to get any sort of morsels of gossip. Like, who would do that? Who would separate themselves away from some hot tea, right? Well, right, it's shitty because you know, rich people like you were saying earlier, rich people scatter. So it's like, it's the wife gets a divorce from the Hollywood director,
Starting point is 01:10:29 who's been cheating on her. She gets totally shunned by everybody, which was also a television show with Deborah Messing from Will and Grace. And Judy Davis, which is pretty fun. But they don't want to be that person, but this isn't really the same thing. It's like, wow, you're not popular anymore,
Starting point is 01:10:44 so we're not gonna be friends. This is more like you ripped off orphans and widows, you can make sludy videos of yourself rolling around on a bed, drawing money all over the place. You know, so I don't know. So goodbye, Erica. Anyway, thank you all for listening. We really appreciate it.
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