Watch What Crappens - RHOBH: Fishy With a Side of Martyr Sauce

Episode Date: October 28, 2021

*Also avail as video on Crappens On Demand http://bit.ly/crappensvideo* It's part three of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Reunion and Erika cries and spins more tales. Also, Crystal get...s to talk about her leather pants and Kyle gets to make more shocked faces. Our premium bonus is a Winter House discussion. Find all of our premium bonus episodes at https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens, and get tickets for our Winter Tour at https://www.watchwhatcrappens.com/10th-anniversary-hunky-dory-tourSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:03 Oh, hi. It's game from the heart. game from the heart. Thank you. How are you doing? Good just, you know, excited talk some Beverly Hills today. See you're still in your childhood home. Very cute. Your childhood bedroom Still here still enjoying life in this nice very cold room, you know know, I'm kind of like move out of the way so people can see little snippets, but all you can really see it. Look, there's pillows.
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Starting point is 00:03:03 Bed of two. Two plus lives of, wow. Hills just keeps on the trucking. And I have to say, I think Erica's totally full of shit, still not a fan, but God can she take a beating on this show, right? I mean, it's just all it never ends like how long were they there 13 hours? And it's just like, and now let's talk about Erica's some more. I know. It's a lot. Although most of this episode was kind of like odds and ends and like the light fun stuff,
Starting point is 00:03:33 but um, or at least a big chunk of it was. So it's part three of the reunions. Hey, we're still gonna keep talking to Kathy and Kyle. You thought it was done with them sobbing last week. Guess what? We're gonna make them talking to Kathy and Kyle. You thought it was done with them sobbing last week. Guess what? We're gonna make them sob all over again. So Andy, we sort of like pick up with them
Starting point is 00:03:50 like sobbing again about like, Kathy. At the episodes of American Woman, did you watch Kathy? And she's like, well, I watched the trailer. You know, I don't watch too much TV because Kim's over too much. And she starts talking back to it. I have to keep it off.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Once she threw a key lime pie at Mark Hellenberger for shining a flashlight in a rye andy, so we just tend to keep the TV off in my home. Plus Kyle produced it. And then, so they, you know, she's talking about she doesn't even see her friends. Like everything from last week was sort of like picking up ramping back up again and then Kyle and Kathy are just like sobbing. I didn't realize it was a cliffhanger, but apparently it was so they're still sobbing and And he's like so knowing what a wedge American woman caused. Do you regret doing it Kyle just a little bit? And she's like um regret doing it Kyle just a little bit and she's like um actually I don't regret it because I know I didn't do anything wrong and for me it was exciting and fun that I could do this project that was like a love letter to my mom even though it wasn't about my mom at all
Starting point is 00:04:53 but it was like a love letter to my mom and but it was not about her at all and like characters were based on her but it wasn't her at all you know what I'm saying and so like even though it wasn't biographical I felt bad that they thought it was something it wasn't and I was hoping that they would watch, but they didn't watch, because they don't like to support me. But I'm over it, I'm totally over it. I know, I love how Tom not going to see Eric and Chicago is abuse, but then Kathy not bothering
Starting point is 00:05:15 to ever watch a single episode of a TV show she got produced. Oh, it's just keep Kathy, she's an icon! Well, the difference is that Chicago is like a beloved musical. An American woman was on the Paramount Network. How dare you. That's also the network.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yellowstone is on. I'm watching a bunch of things on Paramount. You can all pair mechs. Ask. Also Kyle loves a wedge. Because it has blue cheese on it. I don't know Kyle in person, but I know Kyle loves a wedge because he doesn't. The only salad that comes shaped like a slice of pie with blue cheese dripping down the sides.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Well on that note um so Andy starts asking um like how did they how did the sisters come back together and like what brought them back together and Kathy goes Who's probably me? Who's probably me? She just Kathy's just happy to just take full credit for that, you know And so Kyle's like um actually was our kids because like our kids are unbelievably close Basically like Paris is kind of like my daughter She's like my twin and my daughter and she's like very close to us. She's always like Ant Kyle best friend sister doppelganger Kyle like and I I'm more of your salmon. This sort of brought us together. I mean, how can I deprive my daughter doppelganger Paris from me? Am I right guys? Am I right?
Starting point is 00:06:32 Then we find out that the real reason is food because Kyle wanted Kathy's turkey. That's what brings people together. Let's face it. You know, if you know, it's why my nieces always want to come over. They know there's always ice cream There's always fucking ice cream Yeah, Kyle goes. Yeah, they were like oh like oh They're just talking. She's like they want they want your turkey They want my turkey and they want my salmon and they want Kathy's This you know, I'm like okay Kyle stop trying to sell you're cooking for a on us. Okay. We're still are not gonna No one's buying it. No one's buying your dry ass fish, okay?
Starting point is 00:07:05 That P.K. needed Tartar sauce for, man. No one's buying that. So they cry and Rinna is so bored. Everyone's bored. They keep cutting to Erica's face and Erica, whenever they're not talking about her, she's just like, ooooooo, staring off at the space.
Starting point is 00:07:19 And then they show Rinna and Rinna's just nodding and shaking her head and doing, you know, just like looking at and going, wow, wow. Over nothing. Like they're talking about turkey and Rinna's just nodding and shaking your head and doing, you know, just like looking at them going, wow, wow, over nothing. Like they're talking about Turkey and Rinna's like, mm, turkey, turkey. Mm-hmm, good poetry. So Andy's like, so did you hash out all your issues? I got the sense it's not something you ever worked out.
Starting point is 00:07:40 It's sort of kind of some might say that because of Bravo, things are better than ever. So So next season will tear it apart again. He is like that He's like so do you think that this show saved your relationship and your lives as an often does? Hey, anybody have a burning building the Bravo can go and save me alright, you know we're to find me and Kathy's like Andy. I think you're a psychiatrist. Oh, cool. Although I've never had a psychiatrist ask me if my boobs are real.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Either way, works. You know, I mean, I just, I think that it did help because Kyle, look at you. You're just so busy with the show. I mean, you have something to do every day that isn't taking pictures of my house and trying to hire Fey Resnick to recreate the Dollar Tree versions in your own home.
Starting point is 00:08:25 It's a healthy hobby, Andy, and I'm glad you've given it to Kyle. Yeah. And Kyle's, yeah, so basically they're saying, the show brought them together because of that and everything. And Kyle's like, well, I mean, we were obviously speaking before, which is why I I wanted her to be part of the show. So basically when you guys say how much you love Kathy, you're kind of saying you love my judgment, I guess. So in doing this show, like, she'd never done a girl's trip, okay, it was fun for me,
Starting point is 00:08:52 because she made me laugh so much. It was like so fun seeing her drive by herself. Like, isn't my sister so privileged? So then it moves to, actually, this was kind of a big controversy on L. Old Internet and I'm surprised that it was just glossed over because Kathy got in a lot of trouble with people for not knowing the lady who works for her She didn't know her name they call her the lady still doesn't yeah, which I kind of assumed at the time She just didn't want her name on camera or whatever, but anyways like so why do you call her the lady?
Starting point is 00:09:24 She's like the oh, the lady? The lady was gonna meet you at the 405. Oh, Paola, Paola. And then we see a clip. She says Paola. She says Paola and we see her name is like, Paola, I shouldn't weigh in this, cause I don't know the lady is now.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Paola. But it didn't feel like her name was Paola though. So yes, and then Ronnie I just don't listen. I don't call her lady. Okay, sometimes I call her lady with the chicken salad and Ritz crackers I just I don't want people to think I'm insensitive. Okay, it's not always lady. I call her human Rosie the robot, you know, and so Rosie the robot, you know? And so, then I see what you were gonna say. I was confused.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Congratulations to Miss KC. Yeah, got her probably shout out our podcast friend. Hey, KC tweeted, Derek and Kathy eat on tray tables every night. And Kathy's like, we sure do. It's cozy. It's real cozy with those tables. And Andy goes, you do.
Starting point is 00:10:31 You do. Like it's the most fascinating interview of all time, right? So Louise from Albuquerque says, forget Kathy and Kyle's problems. What's up with Gourizelle? Forgetting her sister's name. What am I right? I mean, that's the trade table of the bouquet family, am I right?
Starting point is 00:10:51 She carsaws like, huh? I love my sister, Jacqueline. Her name is Carol. Yes, that one. I love her. Well, it's interesting because we had a falling out and this, this right here with these sisters is really making me see things differently because something happened and we let it fester.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Oh, yeah, that's what happened to Kyle's can go when she tripped over a security wire at my house when she tried to steal a neon pink marble elephant, Dion Warwick gave me the Sudan. So I get that. I got it, Marcel. Yeah, that's actually how Kyle Cooks are sad. And she just put it in the oven and set it to fester. And it just sits there for hours until it comes out. It's just black crumbs.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Garsell's like, this isn't about you, Kathy. Oh, I'm sorry, lady. Go ahead. Go ahead. So is it Freudian that you couldn't remember her name? Since you had problems and now you don't remember her name? Since you had problems, and now you don't remember her name? That is so funny. It's like the old sitcom on UPN. That's so funny, you know, right? Hey, Luna from Sonoma says, I almost peed my pants when Kathy was voted
Starting point is 00:11:59 the favorite Richard sister on Watch What Happens Live by the viewers. Kyle, you've been on the show for 10 years, 10 long years. Did that make you jealous when your sister came on for half an episode? And everyone loved her more than you immediately? I was like, oh, Andy, I don't feel jealous of my sisters. Jellies of my sensors, what? I will be opening hotels called the Pilton Hotels. Really excited for those to come. And they're on top of a mountain called Witch Mountain.
Starting point is 00:12:30 So hope everybody can book a room soon. OK. Hope everyone can run there very, very fast, almost as if you're in a race to that mountain. And I have to say, as a working actor and working producer, there's nothing for me to be jealous about. Nothing whatsoever. Andy, don't be rude.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Don't be ridiculous, Andy. So how is Kim reacted to the reemergence of Kathy on TV? And she's like, well, I called Kim and I said, Kim, what is your opinion about me doing this? And she said to make sure my house is bolted into the ground and not to lose my temper. Okay. And Erica's like, I'm blind.
Starting point is 00:13:12 A fucking care. Who's Kim? Hey, Ruby from Redmond says, how's your relationship with Kim and do you have her number? And Kyle's like, yes, I do have her number. And we have this fun game. I'll call her up and then Kim syncing the song where she goes, do do do do.
Starting point is 00:13:30 The number you've reached is no longer available. And I'm like, okay, so then I hang up and I just text her later. You know, she's hilarious. Andy, hot. You know, we're doing so, so good. I posted a pic of me and Kathy in the kitchen. She posted a stale bread and a dish towel on the show. And then Kim posted LOL, turtle emojis, and then sent me a dead snail in the mail with
Starting point is 00:13:52 a note that said, snail mail, get it Kyle? I mean Kim, Kim is hilarious on my right. She is so good. And it's like, well I was hoping to see the three of you and Cal goes, will see. I mean, I kind of thought there was a shot with a three of us as in me, Kathy and my bangs, but I guess we have to involve Kim too. Also, I love the anti-Bretans that he didn't fire Kim. He's like, well, I was hoping we'd see you three together again. Aren't there still pictures of Kim all over the set?
Starting point is 00:14:22 Like, do not let this crazy lady on the set ever again, please. And I'm sure that Kyle is pretending that she's so close with Kim because Kim left a comment on one of her Instagram posts one time. Oh, exactly. I'm sure the Porsche did just have her botmits. But finally, so I'm sure they all the all the the sisters are there together. So we'll see that for next season, because apparently they filmed that for next season. So, hey, with a big shot Hollywood husband
Starting point is 00:14:50 and a big time passion for planning, who would the newest Beverly Hills house while I've finned with the group? And the boldest I can't follow my son's in flying gang. Mm-hmm. No, so then we get a crystal segment, which is exercising, tutoring the kids, and that's mostly it. That's 80% of it.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Yeah. Andy basically asked about the escort agency, and Crystal says, well, it was the summer between high school and college. It was an advertising company that advertised escorts, and Andy goes, Andy goes Erica. It takes you a minute to warm up to people What made you think that should be cool just that Okay, like that should be so open to say something about that many people just be like Meh and then the proposition then the proposition to be a modern I mean that was a free spirited thing. I'm like. Oh, yes
Starting point is 00:15:45 Erica Jane Erica Gerardi was a free spirited thing. I'm like, oh yes. Erica Jane, Erica Gerardi, the most free spirited, opened everything person we've seen on this cast. Oh yeah, Erica Jane would be great. Erica Jane would be a great madam. One thing we know is that Erica is really good with managing businesses. Okay. One thing she's made crystal clear on this show.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Also, Crystal said that she worked for an escort company on the show, but here she's saying, I worked for an advertising company, we would put their photo with the phone numbers on the back of magazines, so they would get called directly. So how's that working for an escort company? Which one of you is the... The escort or the advertising lady? Maybe she used to like sell Ford escorts
Starting point is 00:16:27 When those used to be a thing they pay for used to fucking cuz I'm still high and bad with you that was the guys, right? No, so then we get to the ugly leather pants segment and And he's like who with where we got we leather fm three the rings right now and of course it's the force the fox forced for over there Of course they all support it and college goes I think I own them which is actually once again Cause way of like one-uping so then cat cat he's like well they wouldn't look good on me, you know mainly because they look terrible You know and so uh sudden goes well, you know they weren't my favorite I mean I wear a lot of things that people hate too. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:17:06 And then we see a montage of Sun with her crazy bows and sleeves and various... Kuchumon. Yeah. So then we move on to... Duh, dun, dun, and he asked Crystal. So now that you've seen the show, do you think it was... Do you think you made too much of a big deal when Seton entered your room?
Starting point is 00:17:27 Do you be going, maybe I've never known a little bit? And she's like, no, because to minimize the coat and the knock on the door doesn't describe how I was feeling. And it was compounded over the past few days. You know, if we had a productive conversation that first night and then we see the flashback to Sutton sitting Chris Cross applesauce on the bar going I am not talking about Rachel Things right now crystal being like um tell me you're the girl that doesn't see color Tell me you're the girl that doesn't see color
Starting point is 00:18:00 And she says you know if if we had basically if it was not all in the context of that like it would have been Just like a it would have just been like a simple learning thing and then but that and then the next night when I nudged you It would have been like, oh hey, we're girlfriends, but it was all cumulative and I can't judge how I felt But you know, I wish we started on the right foot because it never would have happened and sons like but I think that ballet Is a very strong word and I just wasn't't like, gonna let it go, you know, and that was in front that I was doing something directly to hurt you, you know? Yeah, and I'm Andy's like, well,
Starting point is 00:18:33 is it your body images? Did that play any of you feeling of being violated? And she's like, yes. And I didn't like people policing my feelings. And it's not the policing your feelings. No one was saying you couldn't feel a certain way about it. It's the word violated. And saying when you say that somebody violated you,
Starting point is 00:18:50 that usually means something else, right? So Andy's like, what is your mom feeling? She said, nobody likes, no mother wants to see their kid talking about an eating disorder. You know, it's like, you feel like you did something wrong as a mom. And then Andy's like, well, Lou Ferigno from Lantana says, Crystal, you got mad at Sutton for saying
Starting point is 00:19:09 she doesn't seem color, but then it turned out to be Kathy Hilton. The real he said she doesn't see color. Yeah, because Kathy said that at the dinner in Del Mar. So Crystal's like, well, you know, the tone was extremely different. And you know, you really, you can't argue with that. And then it, it's a custom renna who's face is kind of like a, she's doing a, I don't
Starting point is 00:19:30 know about that face. Like a, you could have had a fight. You could have had a great scene. Yeah. Listen, things have different tones when they come out of poor people's mouths. Kathy is the most just, okay. It sounded okay. It sounded just fine coming out of Kathy Holt and South.
Starting point is 00:19:47 She's, or mouth. She's richer than all of us. So then Andy's like, well, you know, it was nice after the episode, the sudden posted about not hating your guts on Instagram. That was so kind. Which of course, Sutton did to be like, stop attacking me.
Starting point is 00:20:02 We are friends in real life. Right, Crystal? Right, Crystal. And then someone writes in to say how, which of course that did to be like stop attacking me we are friends in real life rock crystal yeah and then on someone writes in to say how like her heart really broke when crystal told the story about her dad uh... encountering racism so crystal talks about that and really sad talking about how again about how her dad just like drove away and uh... when there's like that incident the gas station everything and
Starting point is 00:20:24 then and he said that he is really upset because he found out that Crystal has, is like experiencing hate speech and threats directly from her being on the show because she's Asian and she says it's hundreds of days still. And like we've seen it and this has been a thing like that there was someone, some troll. And so by the way, if you're trolling Crystal,
Starting point is 00:20:42 or really anyone because of their race, like fuck you. Yeah, really get the fuck off like over yourself and like, like, don't be such a miserable human being. So fuck off. Yeah. So she talks about that and she was basically saying that she came on the show for representation and that the good, you know, at least there's good to it, you know, it was all good during the show. It was just kind of the aftermath where the hatred started and that's that stuff sucked. And certain says, well, I'm sorry for any part that I played in that. And Andy tells her, you know, don't let us a certain percentage of assholes define your experience.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And then he asks everybody what they enjoyed about Crystal and Kyle's of course food, the dumplings. Of course. Which I now make, I now make dumplings and you can see it on my Instagram. They're just like a little bit bigger and they're a little bit more charred. But yeah, so be the Kyle Kyle with the dumplings, which of course that scene made me then have like a three-week-long Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump D Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump Dump D Dump Dump Crystal. I don't know. I just met her tonight. I just met her tonight. I needed to say something. Listen, my neck is literally hurting from just sitting here doing this. It hurts. It's an awkward angle to be shaking my head back and forth. All right, Crystal. Thanks for joining us. You can go back to sleep. There at the end of the couch. Okay. Like most folks coming out of this year, the housewives were
Starting point is 00:22:21 eager to have a reason to dress up again. Let the glam squads rejoice, except for the ones that were fired because there's no more money for them. Beverly Hills fashion is back. I mean, Erica just gives a face like, she's so over it. So then it's like watching real, I mean, we are watching real housewives of Beverly Hills, but it's like watching a real regular episode as all their fashions come on, they just go, oh my God, you look so cute. Oh my God, you look so cute.
Starting point is 00:22:49 They're like actually doing it in the reunion chairs, which is what they're saying. They're saying, oh my God, you look so cute to themselves, saying, oh my God, you look so cute. It's like when you look in a mirror in front of another mirror, like in a department store, and then it's just like infinity. It's like you you look good.
Starting point is 00:23:05 It's so exciting. So then someone tweets in and says, hey, I wouldn't have told the world I keep millions of dollars if vintage dresses, Rena, in a detached garage. I mean, after burger, I stole all of Kyle's Burkins, which I love when Randy rubs that into Kyle's face. Hey, how are your Burkins gone? Oh, sorry, Kyle. You know, Kyle had that trouble
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Starting point is 00:24:40 You can listen ad-free on the Amazon music or Wondering app So he's like so car cell you've actually had a career in fashion. So who dresses the best and car cells like Doreet, you know, she just tries so hard. So well done Doreet Let me finish car cell. I was I was complimenting you and you weren't even talking. Oh, this is my favorite part of the whole reunion. So Andy goes, so do read, speaking of your fashions, do you actually buy all of those clothes? And she's like, everything ended, everything's retail.
Starting point is 00:25:18 All right, we made a lot of money after PK found for bankruptcy for half a billion dollars. That was a huge thing for us. Like, uh, that doesn't make sense to read. Wouldn't either do boogers, but our noses keep rolling them out anyway. My last booger was shaped in the double Chanel C envy. Drain, only retail for me, envy. Yeah. And, um, you know, it's just like, yeah, it's just like, you know, it's just where is wears what she wants to wear and then Garsell's like, well, can you imagine what Phoenix can have? I do, I do, I do, I know, I know, thank you, I'd like to accept this award on behalf of children with fashion watchrobes. Thank you, thank you. She's sort of an assistant like that's if she just received an award for giving Phoenix a future wardrobe. Because this is her whole personality, you know, so this is like her big moment.
Starting point is 00:26:07 And Andy says, so I thought that you guys would get a lot of free stuff from designers just wanting to be on the shelf. So, where are these designers? They called me day and night, you know, begging me, begging me to wear the clothes of cool Cindy. Louis Vuitton just left a note on the windshield, written in lipstick. It said, where are we, our old jump off the bridge. And I'd just like to say right Cindy, Louis Vuitton just left a note on the windshield. Written and lipstick, it said, We're me, a roll jump off a bridge, and I'd just like to say right now,
Starting point is 00:26:28 Louis, buy a parachute, because I only pay full price, Cindy. I'm the maker of my own shallow thirsty destiny, and I love to pay for things. There's anyone. Doreet, your ass doesn't pay for anything, and everybody knows how many, how many bankruptcies, and how everybody knows how many how many bankrupt sees and how many How many IRS cases you're ass owes everybody please lady Yeah, please so
Starting point is 00:26:55 so then Hey crystal for someone who's like a tomboy doesn't like fashion. How'd you wind up with a Birken bag? so crystals like well She does like fashion. How'd you wind up with a Birken bag? So Crystal's like, well, my friends had a collector and she guided me to buying the bag and she actually bought me a couple of bags. She said something about how it would make Kyle really jealous. Wow, what sort of friend is that? Kathy Hilton. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:27:21 You know, because I'm very frugal. My friends said, God, Crystal, you just don't spend any money on yourself. We're going to have to change that. You live in a gigantic mansion that you're currently having remodeled. And I don't know what you drive, but this whole crystal is just so humble and is very thrifty as she throws off all of her $100,000 purchases. Hilarious. She just happens to be like creating a cavern in her basements that way Rob can golf. So yeah, Crystal goes, you know, she's always like, you don't buy anything for yourself.
Starting point is 00:27:55 And you know, it just, you know, I say, I say that's because I don't care. And Kyle goes, your bag looks like you care. Kyle is so mad that like, Crystal has the nicest from as bag and as the now acting like she doesn you care. I was so mad that like Crystal has the nicest from as bag and as then now acting like she doesn't care. So then I love your anniversary with morning. And what's the most over the top gift he's ever given you? And she's like, oh, you know, the performative diamond earrings that he gave me on what happens live to prove to everybody that he wasn't cheating on me like all the tab voice For saying that he was those were pretty sweet those are pretty. Oh, and you have them here today. They were stolen. Oh
Starting point is 00:28:32 That's too bad Edwin's at home like yes, that's right, bitch Got the time and he's got the earrings in. And then he's just looking at his wig. So, and he goes, forgot about that. And I like that every time they show Kyle and Flashback, it's a different face. Like, which was this face? Was this an in-between face?
Starting point is 00:28:56 I didn't even recognize this face. She's getting to be like, now her faces are gorgeous. I have to say, every model has been gorgeous, but they're always so different. She's like the new Vicki Gumbelsen, you know, because Vicki was like that where every season you could tell the season by the face. Well, but Vicki was more like tracking Toyota Corolla from 2005 to the 2021 model. Whereas Kyle has been more like, this is how far we've come with like, Alexis, you know?
Starting point is 00:29:26 So, Andy is like, okay, so we've proven that Kyle likes performative, expensive gifts. Let's undermine that by asking Kathy what Rick has bought her. And so she's like, well, we don't really buy gifts like that anymore, you know, for a big anniversary. You know, you've got like, you've got, you're not gonna believe what I got. It was a sterling silver shell.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Yeah, and then, you know, because you collect shells, so I got a Michelle, yeah, and a sweater, and a sweater. Yeah. I'm like, I love the Rathie Hilton is the one who makes, like, like, that Kathy is the one. Kathy is so, so wealthy and it's just like a sweater, just totally making Kyle like, like so excessive. Yeah, so Andy's like, so Kathy,
Starting point is 00:30:10 social media is a buzz. You've been called him, Icon, a dresser, are you surprised? And she's like, well, I am because I'm just a tiny little part of a dynamic group of ladies, they're intelligent, they're fierce, and they're-named Paula. From what I can remember, ask somebody else something.
Starting point is 00:30:32 That would be great. Well I know that you said that Paris and Nikki were discussing when they learned you were joining us. How do they feel now? Well, turns out it made me really famous, so they love it. Yeah. And then basically it's more of this, I don't know why they keep going back to this Kyle and Kathy thing, but here we go with more of it. Then we get a Kathy,
Starting point is 00:30:50 see Kathy wacky segment. And at the end of it, and he goes, wow, lots to unpack. Really? Is there? Is there a lot that you need to tell me? Well, is there literally nothing happened. So he's like, Kathy, we've seen you over the years. Kyle are you surprised that everyone loves her? She's like, Andy, I've always wanted my sister on this show. I've just always, you know, so much of her humor makes me laugh because my mom used to joke like that. And we're gonna go, oh, really? Oh, really? Really? Is that true? Really? Really? Is that true?
Starting point is 00:31:25 That was Rina saying, oh shit, I've just been zoning out for five minutes. I should probably say something. Oh really? Wow, that sounded like it was a revelation. Yeah, like Kyle hasn't said that 10 times. So then let's see, they talk about how seeing Kathy makes Kim make more sense because Kathy puts
Starting point is 00:31:47 eardrops in her eyes and Kim uses deodorizer as breast spray. And so we get a clip of that. Kyle is not abused at the Kim clip. She's just looking at it like, and Kathy's like, well, you know, no one really does know the real Kyle you see, which I wish she would have gone into that. the real Kyle you see, which I wish she would have gone into that. Yeah, yeah, she does. And she just says that Kyle is very eccentric. And then Andy asks about the origin of the box band, Mom, because apparently big cathes have a giant air hanger fan at the base of the bed.
Starting point is 00:32:19 And it all climb in there and just have air. It's basically like one of those old school max cell commercials. And so they're all gathered in the bed. And Rinna goes, what was it blowing on you? Was it blowing on you? Yes Rinna, it's a fan. Oh my gosh! It was blowing on you. It was blowing on you. Oh the fan! It was blowing up! It was air coming out. It was air coming out you. That's crazy! What's air coming out? It was air coming out you. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:45 The Rin is going on this huge yelling. Wow. Wow. Oh, we love that big fan. The best is when we tell Kyle that she had to compete with the little girl from Walter Guy, so she go up to the fan and say they're here. But she always clipper finger in the thing.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Oh god, that was funny. A lot of band-aids, but worth it. Well, Spetzel from Spokane Ireland says, Kathy, what was it like with the... What was it like living in the wall door of a story of her so long? It was very, very lovely. We loved living in close quarters, and at least it goes... Mmm!
Starting point is 00:33:20 Mmm! And like, not everything requires a reaction, these. Well, it was fun until Paris started sneaking out of the service elevator in the middle of the night. Isn't that hilarious? And I was like, oh, yeah, one time I was there. And one time we woke up and we couldn't find Conrad and Alex, yeah, because they were hiding in the air conditioning vent. I just wanted to reassert that my family was with Kathy's family and their provide association pair of something at the walk up story. Exactly. So he asked her about Hilton hotels and the
Starting point is 00:33:55 fun Rick gave it up 10 years ago sold it. So it's not in the family anymore. Nobody would cut trust Kathy to cut their hair, except for Rina. But of course, we all know, Rina's got like 30 of the same wig from 1987 that she just puts on when she doesn't feel like wearing something else. And then, do they trust her to be a dentist? And Kathy's like, well, I also do COVID tests. I stick a crinkle fry up your nose. And if you say Kyle was right to make a TV show about
Starting point is 00:34:25 my mother, you're a sick person and you shouldn't leave the house for two weeks. Is that it? Yeah. So now it's a, now we go, now we go on break and Andy is like turns to Erica and it's like, how's it going, Erica? And he goes, well, I'd love it if you didn't go hot on me. And he goes, well, we're gonna put you in a skewer and I'm gonna turn the fire up the barbecue and he goes, well, and I'm so fucking ready for you. Yeah. So here we go, like literally nothing else happened. If anybody needs to be reminded,
Starting point is 00:34:57 nothing else happened this season. As you can tell by the first 45 minutes of this, right? So he's like, so Erica, after Erica filed for divorce serious accusations started firing at her, it had people asking more questions than ever have a look. And then this clip is Erica's BS, but this is specifically the LA time story. Yeah, so yeah, so she, I think the montage ends with her being like, I don't remember who's following me and who's against me. So Andy's like, so who's for you and who's against you?
Starting point is 00:35:33 And she goes, I don't know, you should ask them. And so he goes, well, you said when this is all over, I'm gonna remember who is with me and who is against me. And she goes, yes, I'm keeping score. I'm like, Erica. So let's just go. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm score. I'm like, Erica. So what's your score? I'm asking for the score. Well, actually, people keep scores. So you can ask the scorekeeper who's doing the...
Starting point is 00:35:51 Longing, knowing I'm doing, I'm taking names on a little list, Andy. So his name's on the list. I'm asking for him, Andy. I don't even know what a list is, Andy. So you don't have a list. Oh, they're on the list. So what is the list? What list? The Andy. So you don't have a list. Oh, they're on the list. So what is the list?
Starting point is 00:36:05 What list? The list you just mentioned. I have a list. So you're going to tell us? No. Why not? Because I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:36:14 So should I? Keep it back to my sale, man. And Krag goes, oh, can I say something? And she, Erica's so mad that she's been interrupted, right? She's like, I just had the list. And you talk about your sister putting goddamn fit scales in the ears to get a laugh. All right, be out soon.
Starting point is 00:36:30 And, guys, like, I've been reading in the tabloids mostly because they're a paragraph and less that you're upset with me. And I just hope you know that like we're in a difficult position. And there's so many things I know you couldn't say, but then I thought there were things that you could say that would have helped us understand more you know it's very complicated Erica. Well the thing that hurt me the most was to watch that dinner with you and Mauricio and PK and you to read all left to watch the four of you. Mark my life and mock my family really hurt me, especially after P.K. had been so kind
Starting point is 00:37:09 and we've worked on a relationship that sucked. Erica, you gave the craziest stories, and I'm sorry, there's a thing in life called levity that people have. We know you haven't displayed much of it, but people actually are capable of having that in their experiences with other people, especially when trying to parse out an absolutely ridiculous ever shifting narrative. actually are capable of having that in their experiences with other people, especially
Starting point is 00:37:25 when trying to parse out an absolutely ridiculous, ever shifting narrative. Right. And Kyle's like, but that might, I just felt so bad. He came Mauricio. They have their own relationship. They're like brothers, you know, but Mauricio has said all along that he believes you and he does not believe anything that people are saying which is such absolute bullshit Mauricio said in the clip they just showed oh my god, let me tell you this much. There's so much lies
Starting point is 00:37:51 So much so much lies, you know, you look at much stories coming through. It's 100% BS Which stands for lies? Dance for lies. It's so upsetting. Quiet, Camille. So then, Dorita's like, you know, I was receiving new information from your son. My fax machine was going off in my head, and I was receiving it, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:38:17 there's no cover sheet, and I'm receiving this new information. I don't know what it's going to bend. So of course, of course, it was, it was preposterous. It was, it was, it was a laugh. It was course, of course it was it was preposterous. It was it was last It was a it was a it was a it was like it was funny. It was Shoe-shoe-ma. It was it was it was boy George boy George music was playing. It was fanciful. It was it was rain There's a ceiling. It was exciting Well, I'm here to clear up any questions for you my hair
Starting point is 00:38:42 I'm she sits up all straight Um, why are you guys kissing her ass instead of saying her story changed every time she told it and made no fucking sense? This is making me crazy. So Eddie's like, well, that's what we're gonna do. All right, well, whatever you want, ask me here I am and an ice skating dress and be asked me whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:01 So Garsell's like, I wanna ask something. Why is it that you didn't understand that we could be concerned about being grouped in in a story like this? I'll tell you why. Cause there is nothing here that legally ties you to me other than being mentioned in articles for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Now that anybody Googles your value, and it says right next to my, Eric, listen, you're considering yourselves a co- bitch. All right. Well, you want me to say Yeah, she goes they do project yeah, the article do project on to you But you can't be fearful of that because you know the truth and if anyone tried the dragon of you in here You know straight up. It's bullshit. I'm like well do they because it seems like when they ask you questions You either say you can't talk about it or you bite off their heads. So I don't think they do know the truth. No, and you're full of shit. And so then Sutton starts doing her ring work.
Starting point is 00:39:52 She has that she has like the ultimate Dragon ring, you know, which is like the bigger one the bigger version of Erichas that Erichas was always bragging about Sutton rings the even more expensive one and and where's it on her middle ring? I got this one off of Amazon. Isn't that gorgeous? It's nice. That's a good crop work there.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Yeah, that's beautiful. That's a crap and it's on demand exclusive right there. She's like, kind of swinging it around in her face, which I just love. And it's like, let me say something, because I got really upset after reading the article AdNosm. I wanted us to know because we weren't told anything and I didn't know what was gonna happen or unfold in this case. And Eric was like, well I was a solace. You could have picked up
Starting point is 00:40:36 the phone and said, what can you say about this? I have been completely upfront. Except the parts that I won't answer anything about or I said the times when I changed my story 10 times or the part where I said I haven't been to a bank. But otherwise, I have been straight up with everyone here. Oh, you mean like the time that Tom broke his ankles? Well, he broke his ankles because you know, but he also hurt his head. Oh, so he hurt his head when he broke his ankles Well, because he drove off the close-out of a clip because that's what happens and that's when you found them I found him nine hours later nine hours there 12 hours later
Starting point is 00:41:11 Three hours later and there was a mistress and my son was there But he wasn't there and then there was also a snow one and sunny at the same time And there was a rainbow was made out of snow and it turns out on the other side of the rainbow was just Tom's other ankle It was very confusing. So I've been very straight up She says she's been straight up. Uh, you didn't tell anyone anything was ever happening. They had to find out from the news. You fucking liar. So I loved it. Sutton says, but Erica, you ran away the day before the LA time story came out. And she's, no, no, no. And she is, but that's exactly what it felt like to little me.
Starting point is 00:41:46 And so we see the clip of Erica saying, I may go back early, call you later, bye. Yeah. I don't have the heads up on LA Times Hit Piece. Nobody called me to say the species coming out. I left, I left because of the fight we got into with, you know, Garsell over there. That's why, and I'm not gonna run away
Starting point is 00:42:05 because of a one-sided-a-times article. There have been many more vicious articles written after that, and I didn't run away from those, because I guess I already was somewhere away from other people, so I didn't have to run anywhere, but that's the plot, that's the plot. It's time for commercial.
Starting point is 00:42:19 It's time for a crap-ins-commercial. So you're talking about the fight with you and Garsell and not with production for making Garsell grill you three times on camera because we would never do something like that on this show. Yes, that's exactly what I'm doing. And so we see the clip of first thing. I do mind you saying it, Garsell, because it's like a betrayal of friendship right now. And so by the way, so Erica, who has been straight up,
Starting point is 00:42:47 is upset with Garcell for asking her for revealing something that she had not revealed. So Kathy, Kathy's like, let me ask you a question. On other shows, there have been lawsuits and big problems. So what's up with that? And Andy's like, yeah, well, I think the difference here is that, you know, I think the reason why people are so far about this is because they're actual victims in this case.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I was gonna say orphans and widows last time proud to call me to wear one of the outfits. I said, sorry, Bradda, I only pay retail. Please give it to the orphans. There's an entire orphanage of children wearing snick-skinned boots and see-through brawls now and because of me you're welcome for my retail pain orphans. I love to read saying she was just about to say that she wasn't going to say shit. So I actually don't think people are more fired up because they're actual victims. I mean, I think that's an element that makes it a little bit more gross. People are fired up because it's, there's so much bullshit and it's, and she's sort of getting away with it. That's why people are fired up. So Andy says, well, you know, whereas you had someone who defrauded the IRS,
Starting point is 00:43:57 you know, in the case of New Jersey, you know, someone who didn't pay their taxes, I think that when you're the case of actual victims that, you know, that you're seeing, thing that's got people very upset and Erica goes understood. Okay, however, understand this. Oh, and then they roll out they roll out a crucifix a big life size crucifix planted out put a spotlight on it and Eric the crawls right up there and just takes her place for the rest of the episode. Fuckin' Erica. Understand this. We were a long way from finding out what really happened here. I loved my husband. I thought he was great. Now he's allegedly defrauding widows and orphans and burn victims. How the fuck do you think I feel? Not Erica. Now she loves him again. Yeah, I know. You thought he was great. You just. He was emotionally abusive and cheating on you with multiple people for years and holding you hostage and stealing your checks
Starting point is 00:44:50 But now you loved your husband if he was great. Yeah, he's like so how do you feel? Horrible and I've said it. I've said it over and over again And they're like no, you did not you never said you felt horrible And crystal says well, why don't you say it to the victims? Well, you understand that they have a real boundary as the way I can and cannot go. However, in these cases, in these cases has proven, you know, has been proven wronged. And there are cases that have been proven wrong where people have been proven wrong. I want them remedied. Despite what you read, I have done everything they have asked. Besides, I tried to call some of
Starting point is 00:45:29 those victims and all their phones have been turned off due to nonpayment. So how do you think that makes me feel? So let me get this straight. So you've done everything they've asked and why are they saying in court that you're refusing to turn over your bank records? And uh, hello. So he's like, well, that's not really the issue. The way that people perceive it is that you think that you're the victim. Well, I've never said I'm a victim. I'm not a victim. I'm simply survival. Survival against all the odds which are against me while everybody is trying to bring me back.
Starting point is 00:46:10 I'm not a victim. How do you think it makes me feel to be accused of being a victim? Yeah, exactly. And certain goes, but you look like one. And she's like, are you fucking kidding me? My life is upside down. How can I not be broken? How can I not be sad? It's just like what I'm telling you is how you came across. Well, how can I not be tired? How can I not be So you're saying of course I feel the way about the victims and I said that to Kathy and everyone who goes, well, what should I have done? Well, I'm telling you, it doesn't seem to be landing with the group or the viewers that that's where you're coming from. And so, Erica says, there's a very limited way in which I can express myself because we all know
Starting point is 00:46:55 everything will be picked apart, busts, and possibly turned against. Does my, uh, extremely deliberate articulation express how serious I am about this issue right now Yeah, those people picking you apart parsing you and using everything against you They're called the editing team and you can meet him at the Christmas party if you're not in prison Okay, so Erica's like hold up hold up hold up hold up Now that is why you see me answering Insert ways okay, and he's like but there's speculation that you were advised by your lawyers why you see me answering in certain ways. Oh, hey. And he's like, but there's speculation that you were advised by your lawyers not to speak
Starting point is 00:47:29 about the victims. And he's basically trying to help her here, right? He's saying your lawyer said it, right? And she's like, oh, really? Well, it is best in any situation like this to be quiet and what did I do? I chose to say as much as I possibly could
Starting point is 00:47:51 and still might have thought myself up easily. Well, thank you. Thank you for doing us the favor of telling us as much as you could and then adding to that story and revising it and changing it entirely. Thank you. So Andy's like, yeah. Yeah, Andy's like, well, I'm surprised that you're surprised us as much as you could and then adding to that story and revising it and changing it entirely. Thank you. And he's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:06 And he's like, well, I'm surprised that you're surprised that people aren't getting. And then he can't even finish because just, I'm not surprised that the viewers, I'm surprised that the women who are sitting right here, they know the source, they can come to me. There's no reason for any woman to think that that Ashwood should withhold something from them, except for all the times where you're like, I'm not gonna talk about that, or you got mad at someone for asking about something.
Starting point is 00:48:32 So yeah, there's actually a pretty good reason for them not to ask about. Or when you went to Yolanda and told her about Munchausen's and then said you never said it. I mean, I know this is old stuff, but she's Eric up on top. I get off the cross. So, Kras was like, can I say something? Your Instagram is in doing you any favors? And she's like, my Instagram has always been
Starting point is 00:48:51 the same. And I'm not leaving social media because you know, what which of course, changing it because no one said to leave social media you do. Yes. And Kyle's like, no, it's about changing the tone, you know, open and honest. So Andy changing the tone, you know, open it honest. So Andy says, well, you know, you're presenting an attitude of consumption and indifference and Eric, well, the consumption. And he's like, so I mean, the Eric adjean character is built on consumption. I don't know. Are you familiar with the song? It's expensive to be neat. Just wondering if you can add up. I don't even have a cough.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Okay. I have, I have had consumption in the past. Fuck yeah, and it was worth every drop of blood on that clean ex. I heard a Rolls-Royce from that little kid, man. She goes, listen, she's getting paid, the post. Should I not do that? Should I not pay the bills? It's like, Erica, I mean, you can be paid and I like, go get it. Get that cash. Get that influencer cash, but you don't have to be like, I'll take, go fuck yourself. Well, what about that one that she posted, that drunk drawing, the artist who does the drunk drawings, which are so funny on Instagram, but she posted the one of her on a cross
Starting point is 00:50:03 with fire all around wearing one earring that said orphans and the other saying widows. I mean, come on, Erica, how much did you get paid for that? Yeah, exactly. Duncan Donuts. So he's like, you know, don't know how to mind their fucking business. Yeah, fucking Donuts. So he's like, I'm saying it just lands differently when there are air crash victims. It's true.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Bad land is just bad landing is just make people think of playing crashes. It's true. They're excited. It's true. Land better, pilots. Land better. We all learned something today. I mean fans on my right. God, I love Captain Sully selling their hair. So Garsell is like, yeah, I mean you have to shift a little bit. I don't have to do anything except defend myself. I'm like, Erica, you're proving why you never really made it as a pop star because you're being so unsavory about all of this stuff, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:55 And so, Rina is like- It's not just your music, your tone deaf. So, Andy's like- And even Rina. Even Rina, by the way, pushes back. Because even Rina's like, you know, I understand her. Acting out- without the question you were about to ask, Ronnie. Andy asked me, Rina, even Rina by the way, pushes back. Cause even Rina's like, you know, I understand her, acting out without the question we're about to ask Ronnie, and be asking Rina. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:51:10 So Rina's like, I understand her acting out and doing what she's doing. I just, hmm, I don't think it's helpful. It's really feeding the fire. You know what would be helpful. If someone could come up with a drink suggestion so then I can order that same drink right now. So thirsty, no one's ordered a drink yet.
Starting point is 00:51:26 I'd like to ask you a question, Mr. Coat. Go right ahead, Erica. Yeah, about that. I'll take one too. That sounds like a great idea. So here we go again with this. He's like, okay, the first question everybody wants to know. Did Eric know about theft happening? Like he hasn't asked us for 10 hours in a row. So she's like, I do not work at Geronique's.
Starting point is 00:51:56 All the finances I can't add Geronique's, Andy. So the answer is no. A vase, your answer. Which was no, right? That's it, my answer is no. A V is your answer, which was no, right? That's it. That answer was no. I'm not telling you. Is it on a list somewhere?
Starting point is 00:52:11 Don't ask for my list again. I don't even know what list is. If you if you, if you, what's a preposition that that suggests something being above something else on, now say that backwards. There you go. What about if you say, how about this John Lenin's widow is Yoko Ono and just her last name Ono and now let's lose the first All right, Maleficent from Milwaukee Springs Kentucky says I've got the million dollar question. Oh, really? Because I'd love to catch that question and pay my bills, but I don't know how to use banks.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Unfortunately, bitch. Yeah, that's right. So Ericka or everyone who believes Ericka did not know anything about what Tom was doing? So they all are like, no, no, no, we don't think that she actually. I don't think she knew. I don't think she knew which I was kind of surprised by. And Garce tells like, well, I don't think Tom would share that with Erica. But I also think that Erica was living such an amazing life that maybe
Starting point is 00:53:19 they were signs that she just didn't want to see. And so Crystal's like, oh, oh, that was a great nap. Hey, I have a question. I have a question that has bothered me. If Rob did this to me, like, where is your anger towards Tom, which was, by the way, that was a great question. You know, Crystal was pretty quiet this reunion,
Starting point is 00:53:39 but like she came in with a real good one there. And Erica, of course, is like, where do you think it is? You think I don't have any? Because you haven't seen it. I haven't shown you enough fucking anger here today. What do you want me to do? I'm like, well, you are really very angry at everyone about every small little detail.
Starting point is 00:53:56 But when it comes to Tom, you haven't shown that same anger. So I think it's a fair question. Right, Tom, like you, is a huge victim in every single circumstance. and all of this is still allegedly so um so crystals like well I was thinking back on it and she's like oh well I sat here today and I said I wonder who I was married to for 20 years and did you forget about that? Did you forget about roller tape? I'm very angry here in my bullets and I'm gonna do it right
Starting point is 00:54:23 to anybody here seriously I just wanted to take it back. It was a great bullet bullets and I'm gonna do it right to anybody here seriously I just want to it was a great bullet point it was a great bullet point and I said it the way I was supposed to say it okay did you not hear my bullet point but I was like I was like hey I don't know who he is anymore and I was sort of like angry because like I learned how to do it that way you didn't hear that at all what the hell's wrong with you you know everybody just wants you to beat up on Tom and we just don't always do what people want, right? I mean, people have been asking me on Instagram for years to keep my pants on. You know what? Sorry. Not gonna do it. And then, Erica. So, yeah. So, Erica, the thing that drives me
Starting point is 00:55:04 nuts also is that a lot of Erica's responses are just these empty statements that don't mean anything but have a lot of attitude, but they don't really divulge anything. So, then, so this is a perfect example. She goes, you don't know what I have done, but what I will do. I'm like, what do you mean? So, you will be angry. Is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:55:23 Because the air, Crystal's saying, why haven't you been angry or at time and she goes, you don't know what I have done or what I will do? Like, I'm not angry now, but I have a sketch. I have an appointment on my schedule and I'll be angry then and you should just wait to see you don't know what I will do. And Andy's like, what will you do? She's you'll have to wait and say won't you? And so are you just going to anger? So it's just like, hello, $100,000 dragon.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Do you know what the fuck she's talking about? Kuga. She's just saying these very easy phrases that sound like real. Ooh, but they don't mean anything. So Andy's just like, well, had you heard that Tom was in financial straits and she goes no and you can look at the money Yeah, she goes you can look at the money. I forget how much we made year after year, but trust me It was a lot. Oh, so now you have access to all those finances
Starting point is 00:56:22 Really so you knew everything was gonna be okay because all of the money was still coming in but you didn't know anything about the money and it had no access to any paperwork except the paperwork that showed you how much money was coming in every year. And then Ronnie and he says, so you never heard that Tom was,
Starting point is 00:56:40 and you never heard that Tom was ever in any financial disrepair meeting up and just, ah, that's not true. I told you I was being sued as a name defendant in a law and a law lending institution out of Arizona. So So then we see the first he says of somebody saying okay, so you're being called out by Chitzi and to scolusa You're happy to talk about about Vanderpump all day But when it comes to Tom defaulting on a $15 million loan, you don't say a word. It's just, how about this?
Starting point is 00:57:08 Resonve and they apologized. So this is another one of those hairpin turns that she makes, right? When it's like, had you heard that he was in financial strates, she said, no. And then he says, so you hadn't heard that he was in financial despair and she was that's not true I didn't know because I was being sued. I'm like you just said that you didn't know You like no good look at the money. I did not know he was a financial straight But did you know so you didn't know that's not true? I never said I didn't know like what are we watching?
Starting point is 00:57:42 So she says that after that she went home and she said, I looked at him and I said, what is this? And why am I a mold? And he said, oh, it's all bullshit, don't worry about it. And that's how everything was. Am I angry enough for your crystal? Crystal's like, whoa, whoa, I'm like, hmm. She tried to pivot, she tried to like she she like received crystals note
Starting point is 00:58:06 She's like oh, that's a good note. I should probably be doing that Yeah, but it's a little too late for me. Oh, yeah. Oh my god And then it's like the next week and it's like in now we're gonna ask some difficult questions Erica Penvate from Pennsylvania wants to know Did you know anything about Tom's crimes? I'm like, oh my god. Judy from Judy town wants to know, did Tiago get boob and plants?
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