Watch What Crappens - RHOBH: Retreat! RETREAT!

Episode Date: August 5, 2021

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So I'm seeing you learn nestling behind over your shoulder and people can see those aforementioned board games. Someone shaded me over the weekend. They're like, oh, I saw your background on Watch What Happens Live. I was like, oh, it's like, and that's all I'll say about that. And I was like, okay, sorry, I, sorry, I have not invested in a backdrop, but this is just where I

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Actually, and also you've waited a long time to display your games like that. So whatever per rude person, okay? Reperson, that's my friend. Reader person is going to get his ass chewed out next time I see him No, he's actually very very lovely. I feel like it was a joke that got away from him to be honest Well, we don't understand yeah, we definitely understand that one speaking of we've got a lot of those coming your way Welcome to real house. I at Beverly Hills Day. I am lately, I'm just like trying to get comfortable in my chair and it's really hard. That's why I keep moving around and

rearranging my butt because I'm not using my squeaky house office chair because I just finally couldn't take the sound anymore of that. So I stopped that a week ago, but now I'm using this pleather dining chair. And it's one of those cups supposed to cup your butt. But when you have a big butt, it's just like fat-chaining you the whole time because your butt doesn't fit in that cup. So I've got like Matthias hanging over the cup rim or whatever of the chair. So anyway, it's crap and it's on demand day. So you can see me doing this.

So that's why I'm explaining for those of you wondering why the hell I'm talking about my thighs. Do you remember my Shannon Bedouard chair where when I leaned back and I go, ow, ow, ow. But I got it, this one is actually from IKEA. It's actually a really good office chair. So mine is just like you, Ronnie.

No thanks. Ooh, wow, wow. No, Kier. like you're Ronnie. No thanks. Oh wow. Wow. No here. Thank you. How about this? My next song to a very classy place called Living spaces. Um, so I speak of living spaces. The ones that you know of and you don't know of. Let's talk about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills this week. Let's do it everybody. Now I would just like to take this time

to open the show by saying, Kyle Richards is a terrible person. I told you she's a terrible person. I tell everybody she's a terrible person. You guys do not believe me. And then Erica gets lots of looks of shock on her face. Like no one's ever to not do I know Erica. No, I don't. I've never told Erica, but surely someone has said someone in the world has said, Kyle is a terrible person. Don't trust Kyle. But of course, people keep trusting Kyle. Why? I don't know. And then what does Kyle do? She brings up any way to humiliate you over and over on screen. Yes. And ruins your life even more than this already ruined. Okay. So enjoy your Kyle. This is the team you picked, Erica. This is the

team. And then oh, and by the way, be sure to when when you decide you do want to yell at someone in the group, be sure it's it's the person who actually seems the most genuine. If you do do that. Right. So the only person who's not completely trying to exploit your pain for their own sins. Exactly. So, we start off in Lakinta. It's the morning after the last episode. The Kyle's Lakinta House is a disaster. There's just like plates and just shit everywhere.

It's horrific. First of all, they're like, Why is crawling all over the food? Kyle, you, I know that you are that you were the poor sister for a long time, but you're the richest sister now, I think, well, maybe not richer than the Helens, but pretty rich, you can get a cleaner to be there at night, Kyle. This is embarrassing. I'm embarrassed for you. Is it possible that Kim just came in in the middle of the

night, cramp a style and just made a mess in the kitchen and left? Because I can see that happening too. Kim's mess wouldn't have that many calories. There would just be odd dust everywhere. What was that? Sandstorm last night. Did it, did it. But you know, the thing is that later in the episode, the mess was magically gone. They like went off to go shopping and they came back and was all clean. So she does have help, you know, the thing is that later in the episode, the mess was magically gone. They went off to go shopping and they came back

and was all clean, so she does have help. You know? Yeah, they just came later in the day. That's why I'm saying she could have had help the night of the thing. Night of hell. Yeah, what the hell? Yeah, it wasn't Palm Strap Springs like a big meth town.

I mean, certainly you could find somebody awake. You definitely could. You could certainly find some gays who'll come over and be like, oh my god, the real hospitals are here and was heard there was the clean let's do it. It's a gay SOS. It's like Batman. You put up a sign and you just put up an image of like Lady Gaga in the sky and they're like the housewives they need us. But we wouldn't really even clean. We just like plank things around really badly and be like I'm sorry did I wake you Lisa? Rina sorry

No, I don't just like the house fire Yeah, we would just all be in there just taking like selfies with like a crust of bread Be like he's a Rina probably ate this guys and then making memes and then like the women wake up the next morning And just a bunch of kids just sitting around be like girl, we need a nice coffee before we can even start this. Oh my God, I made you a Frappuccino. It's a special style. It's called, you should still feel terrible for what you did to Vanderpump, Frapp. Enjoy!

Enjoy it. Click. Click. So, Rina is in the corner trying to figure out the coffee machine. Um, and, um, and then apparently after, uh, uh, Erica left last night, there was like a lot of heavy conversation. And we have a flashback of Doreet trying to understand the life that is Erica's. Look what she's lived with. Look what she's got inside! lived with. Look what she's got inside! If I looked it was inside PK, just a whole bunch of pringles would fall out of his stomach. Well, it reminds me of the maid off thing. Like, what really happened? I'll tell you what

happened. Someone screwed up her Kevin Bacon and Kira said to me, that's what happened. How dare you bury me, Bernie made off, okay? I don't care if you're in heaven or hell. I hope you can hear me right now when I say, you fucked over the closer. That is correct. Also, by the way, before we go any further, we haven't talked about Beverly Hills was not on last week. So it's been two weeks.

And a lot of stuff has happened in the world of Beverly Hills that we have not reported here on the podcast because I think we're waiting for Beverly Hills day. First and foremost, Kyle Richards stepped in a beehive last week to Beverly Hills that we have not reported here on the podcast, because I think we're waiting for Beverly Hills Day. First and foremost, Kyle Richards stepped in a beehive last week. So that was very dramatic. And since she's okay, she wound up being okay. So therefore we're allowed to laugh at it.

Because of course Kyle would step in a beehive. And then she'd like, she was like, no one was there to help me. No one could hear me. I was like screaming and no one would come into my help. I was like, Kyle, you've got to treat your staff better because they urge you for sure. Yeah. What else happened?

Tom Gerardi pictures surfaced yesterday or two days ago. Yeah, now these Tom Gerardi pictures. Okay, so they showed Tom. It's the first time we've seen pictures of Tom since I guess all this went down and He looked really old and he was wearing like big Costco clothes for some reason Yeah, he was wearing like really oversized Costco level clothes And he had a black eye and a lady was holding him by the arm, you know

And he looked very frail and everyone's the picture that everyone's posting Is Tom from like five years ago when he's like happy chubby Tom And he's smiling and then this old picture next to him But let's not pretend that Tom wasn't looking frail this you know this whole season I mean we saw when Erica was talking to him at the breakfast table or whatever and she's like Okay, honey. I'm gonna go do something now. He's like He looked very old and frail there the bad thing about this picture is he had a shiner. I'm wondering where that came from. That doesn't really make sense to me.

I mean, maybe he fell over or like did someone just punch him? Did someone just come on in and just whack him? I don't know. It's like the Illuminati punch for help. I mean, I don't know. Talking about a bat signal. Is that like the Illuminati? Like, I'm sorry. That's like a conspiracy thing. I don't really even know.

He looks like a piece of fried chicken to me. That's what he looks like. That's all I can see. So that's the news. Okay. So then Kyle. You know, Bravo News is really only fun the day it Okay. So then call. You know, Bravo News is really only fun the day it happens.

Not that any of this should be fun, right? Someone almost dying from bees and then someone getting punched by God knows who, even though he's a bad guy. I mean, none of that should be fun. But it is. We're such sick people. All of the Bravo, all of the Bravo verse. We're all fucking sickos. Okay. The second anything bad happens.

We're like, vultures. All of us just like posting about it, commenting on each other's posts about it, making jokes out of it. And I couldn't be prouder to be part of any other community. So bless all of you, memeers out there, you're hilarious. And also, it's so Kyle, to come try to compete with the reboot of Candyman that's coming out. She's like, okay, well, I can have a B moment also. Okay. So she's now just going to try to, she's sick of trying to like,

one up her own cast member. She's now going to like, one up other horror movies. Now that she's been in Halloween. So, so then we find out that like, after last night's heavy conversation, it turned into a dance party and it's like, and why it turned into a dance party. it's like, and why it turned into a dance party? Kyle says, because we like to have fun, hello! And then we see like this footage of the saddest dance party that just all thinned it like. We have to dance for five more minutes

for their B-roll footage. Oh, and then Kyle kneeling on a table, trying to twerk, I just, and then her interview session for this is her Vanderpump rip, her newest Vanderpump rip off. I didn't notice this until I saw a bravo meme about it actually speaking of that she's wearing that roughly black dress that Vanderpump wore with her hair all Vanderpumpian. I didn't even notice that Kyle you little snake. So, um um so now Kyle is wreaking a headline on our phone Just happens to read this headline right when everyone's gathered Are we having fun to subscribe dance party? Oh my god. It's just read something about Tom

happens 20 times during this Yeah, I know it's Tom in the hospital. It says, Tom is hospitalized for serious illness. What? Are you kidding me? What concerned? Is he, is he, or was he? Is he in the hospital now or was he before? Well, it says he's in the hospital or it says he was.

But if it was or is, I have to know, is or was. God's like, there's just so much stuff that she can't talk about, unless she's talking to me, her very, very close personal friends. That's who I am. I'm to read, like, oh, it's over for him. And Kyle says, every day there's a new story,

new allegations, every day she's dealing with this. And then Crystal comes over and... Every day she's hustling. and then crystal comes over and if he does she's hustling. Crystal comes over and Kyle goes oh my god crystal those are cute cute pants and it just cuts to sudden going. Uh, retain comment. Um, so I love that they just keep the ugly pants thing going for the whole season. Yeah, so then Erica arrives Like hi guys, how's it going y'all?

House here at a some hospital. How are you? Well the hotel room's okay the baddest out, but I couldn't sleep She's not at all. You didn't sleep. She's like, not at all. You didn't sleep at all. Not at all. Not even a little bit. She's like, well, baby a little bit. Last night was just really intense and I had to lost my suits, the hearings, and everything else happening around me.

There's just a lot of anxiety. I'm tired. I'm just gonna stay here. Well you guys go ride your electric bikes. Ride your bikes! I'll be here when you get by. You know, Erica's like PK with a stick of El Vida. She holds it close to her chest. And it didn't hit me like that.

She was what she was going through until last night. That's when I really saw it. And then we see a flashback of Doreet saying, you know, I mis typed it, it says, I hate red, but that's kind of funny because she meant to say, I have red, but I like to think of Doreet hate reading something. You know what? I'm gonna read this because I hate it so much. I'm gonna read this article. But yeah, but basically- Speaking of your divorce, Erica, I hate red. Not bad it with red. I mean, look what it does to booze. It's not a very compassionate color, is it? Red. Yeah, so basically, she read that the, the Tom's team asked the court to

not allow Erica to have spousal support. Well, I don't blame her for not sharing her bad her laugh was, but sometimes you wonder, why doesn't she trust me? Me? Why doesn't she trust me? Please add clips of Dorit returning the dog to some kill shelter in Orange County and then throwing Vanderpump onto the bus or not paying back a bikini guy. Can we just have some clips of why Dereach shouldn't be trusted please. And I love how all these women just continually making

about them. Right. Yeah. So so Kathy comes that like C. Zerica. And she's like, well, I couldn't sleep. It was so boiling. I mean, she had it at 76. I mean, I could barely even eat my chia seeds at three in the morning. It was so boiling. I mean, she had it at 76. I mean, I could barely even eat my chia seeds at the end of the morning. It was terrible. By the way, it's 1215, which is hilarious. Kathy's just getting up and complaining. And they're like, are you going to go ride bikes? She's like, no, I need to rest. So they all hop on bikes, most of them hop on bikes. They head to town. And he's like electric bikes, which means we get the traditional real housewives

on vacation on a bike. Cause for some reason they always wind up on bikes on these shows. And so you have to go to the little town. So you go to the little town and they go to a little coffee shop, which is hilarious, because I ain't nobody gonna eat anything. And really does what she always does. She goes, oh my god, what a cute place! Ha ha ha ha!

It all looks amazing! Are those crames? I'm gonna get a cramp. Can I get my coffee, please? And then they, you think just saying cramp really loudly sold it or what? Yeah. And then they, in the town square, they have like some generic, you know, outdoor furniture, like little bistro tables and chairs, and they, they like sit at them and we're like, I love this cute little furniture. What is this adorable little furniture for little poor people? What is this?

I love it. It's adorable. So Kathy calls and she's like, do you have a straw for my shake? I need a straw for my shake Kyle and Renna goes oh she has her shakes So she's like can you bring me can you bring me a straw? I need a straw and chia seeds straw and chia seeds She's like Kathy. I can't get chia seeds. A straw and chia seeds. She's like, Kathy, I can't get chia seeds

Well, I need them. That's all I ask just a straw and chia. That's that's all this is a simple request a straw chia seeds Perhaps a camel. I don't know. I need something to get into town. Camels or a camel around? Please just bring me chia seeds and cowgirls. I'll look at my purse. Oh, thank you Kyle. Thank you for that just bring me chia seeds and kaga's. I'll look at my purse. Oh, thank you, Kyle. Thank you for that. So then to read, it's like,

does she normally have someone that lives with her to do this stuff? And Kyle's like, listen, don't forget that she's someone who also used to live in the Waldorf Astoria, so she could just call down and have things delivered. And then we see a picture of Kathy in 1985. I need to interview my Mima because she worked at a bank in El Paso that the Hilton's used

to so and she was like the secretary to the Dabney Coleman of that establishment, the owner of the bank or whatever. So she told me when I was a kid that she knew the Hilton. So I need to get some gas from Mima. I need to press the random. That's a random. So then they all start laughing because they realize they're all jealous of Kathy. And they're like, we're just all jealous of her

and they're all laughing, but then it calls like, well, I like being self-sufficient, which is her way of like, rebuking Kathy, I think in some way. And Kathy's like, I mean, guys, can you imagine being married to someone who's 81 and has been cheating on you? Which I guess we're back onto Tom now. That's all Carol does. Every two seconds Kyle brings it right back to Erica. So to say, well, it's not even his age. I mean, look, I'm married to Jessica Tandy version

of the bittersbury Doe boy. All right. but he's just, you know, she still thinks of protecting him after he's been Samine. Yeah, you know, she works so hard to paint a different picture and she still works so hard to protect him, and I hope someone advises her and says he's not going to protect you, just how PK won't protect you if he has to come barge into the kitchen to get to small barbecue chips he won't be protected you're in harm's way if you're there and rinna says that he's just trying to take erica down and Kyle said yeah I mean when he said paid the lawyer bills that was an extra twist in the heart guys she's getting nothing

and we're not like I don't think there's anything to get. And yeah, they're all, like, she's gonna be broke. And they just all sit there thinking of the, thinking like, what would it be like to not have money that we never really earned in the first place? Yeah, they're like the devastation. And then it comes the part of the show where Kyle says, okay, every 10 seconds, guys, we can go home and play karaoke now. And we wanna play karaoke, we're gonna do some karaoke. says, Croquet, every 10 seconds, guys, are you going home, play Croquet now?

Anyone want to play Croquet? We're going to do some Croquet. Guys hurry up, we got a chance, because this can be Croquet in 10 minutes. It's like, we get a Kyle, this can be Croquet. So they're going to decorate the Christmas tree, but no one's really into that. So she's like, where is everybody?

And something's like, that has been my question for hours, hours now. And Erica's sleeping and Kyle's like, here, give Kathy a straw. Give her a goddamn straw. So Erica comes out and she's like, Well, that's what, tonight we're gonna have dinner at my place. It's just a print of, and Satan says,

oh, so you have a house here? She's, well, Tom does. I don't know what the address is, but it's somewhere around here. Somewhere around here. Yeah, so Erica has never gone to the house. And so Kyle tries to look it up on, is gonna look it up on like the homeowner's app for Lakinta. And she's like, well, I've always been told that we have a house, but I still don't have any addresses to where this house is. Which is, I'm sorry, this is just like, this is just like being a

irresponsible human, I think at this point, right? Like, I don't care, regardless of whatever's going on with the divorce, like, if you are, if you own a house and you don't know where it is, how is that, how is that, I think even Kyle is like that, Kyle's like, we're too poor to get it. We're too poor to get it. We're too poor to get it. We're too poor. We're too poor. I mean, when you've got hundreds of millions of dollars, it's like, I just buy that house, just keep it there. It'll, it'll grow in money, you know, like it'll be, it's an investment. So just leave it there. Well, the Erica probably doesn't care about going to Palm Springs or whatever.

And Kyle's, but you agree with Kyle because Kyle's like, how do you know you have a home that you've never been to? And she goes, oh, well, I asked, I did ask, I asked about the home, or the property or whatever, but I never got a straight answer about it. So then, Sudden has her own Rich Lady response, which is like, you know, there's stuff that just gets bought. I mean, it wasn't until I was divorced,

that I found out I was the partial owner and two minor league baseball teams, a zoo, an airline, and a small country that was somewhere east of former Yugoslavia. I never knew. The biggest shock was the oven mitt factory. I just decided to turn them all into sweaters, and you can buy them now. It's setin.com. So Eric is like, well someone's got to be in that house if we've got it.

And Carl goes, oh my god, guess what I just thought about. What did he has in entire family that I don't know about? Oh, well I was guessing a woman, but yours is better. I was just thinking that the Halloween trailer is coming out, but sure, we could also be thinking about that too. Well Kyle, I've already thought of all this crap, and I hope that bit doesn't have any calories because you're chopping at it. Pretty hard. Kyle Richards! Alright! Confident about my misery, Kyle Richards. Seriously, every two seconds Kyle's like, ah! What if he's fucking somebody there? Ah!

What if you want a car company and Tom has actually stuck his penis in the gas section of every car? What if he did that? No! What if Tom's car accident was because as mistress was driving and he wanted to cover for her, like in that book, what if that's why? Why should so it's almost like the mistress caused the entire downfall of Tom and your relationship.

Oh, so Kathy's like, well, you know, I have to have security open my house. I haven't been down here in a while. And I forgot where my house was. So, you know, I travel. I have homes all over. I get confused. In fact, just remembered we have a place down here. We do have a place down here.

No, she was saying this is what you should tell. She says, you should just call up security and say, I need security to open up my house. Okay, I haven't been here in a while. I forgot where it is. I travel and I have homes all over and I get confused. In fact, I just remember,

just tell them that, just tell them that. Just tell them that, they'll open it right up for you. Just like the total like rich lady thing. I'm like, oh yeah, just say, just call security and have them open it up for you. No problem. Yeah, and I like that every time Erica tries to one up somebody, like be like, look how rich I was.

Kathy can always kind of one up it, you know? We see that a little later in the episode too. Because this she's like, yeah, just call security and then she goes, in fact, I just remembered we have a place down here. And it's probably much bigger than the place that you forgot, Erica. So Erica's like, well, you know what? It doesn't work when I call, but maybe if Kathy Hilton called up, she could pretend to really get the answer in like five minutes. Yeah.

So now Kyle starts texting the general manager. She's going to text the general manager. She's like, Kyle is on it, right? Because Kyle wants to have a scene where Erica goes to this house and finds a mistress. She wants this so badly. And then they start talking about Tom being hospitalized. And Erica, Erica's like well I don't know. I don't know what it is or whatever

But more importantly the other of course because of course Kyle's like did you see the news about Tom being sick? But could you just concentrate on proving that she doesn't have a house for it like concentrate on humiliating her on that level Before you move to this other level to it's like it's a smorgasbord of Kyle being able to humiliate somebody on national TV, and she's like eating off of every play at the same time. She doesn't realize she can make multiple trips, right? She doesn't have to stack.

Like, like, you can get a fresh plate. She doesn't have to like have her chocolate sauce touch her shrimp. Right. It's not a single trip salad bar of paying Kyle. So, Eric is like, yeah, I didn't even know what that meant about Tom being sick. And when it's like, yeah, I didn't even know what that meant about Tom being sick. And Rinna's like, well, they were saying he was sick and hospitalized. And he didn't know what he was doing. And that's why he didn't pay those people. And Erica's like, well, I don't know where that is, where that came from, but I read it

this morning, just like you guys. So, Erica's kind of getting sick of this, right? Can I just sit here for five minutes without you guys attacking me? Right. With this shit that's not even your business, right? And Kyle's like, wow, your mind really must be racing right now. Racing like a mistress would be racing. If she showed up at that door and she didn't know you were coming, throwing things into a suitcase, a gym bag probably. I think you're a mocha you didn't find it. I know we're gonna play croquet but what if we just brought croquet

mounts to doorways and rang doorbells with them. Well listen listen blonde lady it's good that you're here do it this would be way harder to deal with in England, where I think I own a bowling alley, but I'm not sure. I'm Erica, you're doing bad. Right. Right. And guy, these drinking her shake without even this draw after all that. Although it turns out later that she just didn't notice that there were straws that the redhead put under her door. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap and it's commercial. Celebrity Beef, you never know if you're just gonna end up on TMZ or trending on Twitter or in court. I'm Matt Bellasife.

And I'm Sydney Battle, and we're the host of Wonder E's new podcast, Dis and Tell. Each episode explores a different iconic celebrity feud, from the build-up, why it happened, and the repercussions. What does our obsession with these feuds say about us? We're starting off with a pretty messy love triangle between Selina Gomez and Justin and Haley Beaver, a seemingly innocent TikTok of Selina talking about her laminated eyebrows. It snowballed into a full-blown alleged feud. But it doesn't seem like fans are letting up any time soon,

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just like it felt it felt like beyond the purview, beyond the scope of Siri. It's like, can Siri really do that for you? Can Siri really help you with your croquet? Like Siri draws the line finally at croquet. So, Kyle's like, you know, I think that people have this idea that if you're somewhat successful and you have some money that you automatically

play croquet but we don't all do that. And to read it's like, I don't have a play croquet, too fattening. I'm not as well have a wonder bread on V dripping into me. What am I some kind of maniac? I like Kyle saying, like, I think that when she says that people have this idea that if you're successful and live in a nice neighborhood, you play croquet. I'm like, that's why you're playing croquet. Exactly why you're playing croquet. Why do you think you're playing it? She's trying to somehow seem humble, but she's actually just reinforcing the stereotype. Right.

So, yeah, so they're all playing croquet. I think that this is really good for Erica. Just kidding out, you know, especially when I set up a game played in Alice in Wonderland where the blonde hero was chased around being threatened to have her head cut off. What could be more calming than that? You know, the best part about croquet here is that, you know, we hit these little balls through hoops that are in the shape of a horseshoe, which means that as you go around the horseshoe, you really get a 360 degree lay of the land

and can see any sort of mistresses who may be walking about. Also, how hard is it to set up a horseshoe of croquet things, right? Don't they just go in like a little horseshoe? I don't know. I'm too poor for that, too. I'm too poor to have any opinions on this show, basically.

So Erica, Crystal gets one in she goes I got one in and Erica's like oh fuck off crystal When this supposed to make me feel better. I feel worse. I feel worse thanks crystal I like the Erica put all her emotional hopes into croquet and so Kathy Kathy arrives afterwards like at the end of croquet as they're all sitting down She's oh are we playing duck duck goose or is that just what we're ordering for dinner tonight? Just let me know So they all sit in the circle in a circle on the grass and to read it's like Did you get the straws left under your dear? Oh, I left you. It's like no, I probably stepped on those I thought there were poor people foot massagers, sorry.

So then they're talking Kyle's like, oh, so Garcell didn't want to stay at the house tonight because of COVID, or maybe it's just that there's someone she didn't want to see, she sort of looks around. Like again, just trying to like poke and prod everyone to get mad at Garcell. Yeah, and Rinna's like, you know guys,

no, I mean, it could be me, it could be all of us. I don't know, we said we're gonna take it one day at a time. And that's not sound healthy. That's what they say in alcoholics and otomists. So, sounds like a fun friendship to me. You know, you just can't brush it. It's like it is what it is. And what it is is is I'm a good person

Should realize that at some point, okay? And Carl's like, um, did she ever follow you back on Instagram? Because I couldn't help but notice that she wasn't following you when I was trying to see if champagne poppy had given me a follow yet Nope, not yet. So we're just like, huh, I don't know. I don't think so. You know, I don't check I don't check. I never't think so. You know, I don't check. I don't check. I never check. I never check at all. By the way, hello to Drake, my good friend who follows me on Instagram.

I don't check my followers. Uncarl tells us, well, I do know because I do check. And she doesn't follow either one of us. OK. Which is, by the way, makes that initial question so shady because Kyle knows the answer. So Kyle knows that Garcell isn't following Rina and she still asks anyway just to get Rina mad at Garcell.

Yeah. That's that's Kyle. So they go back and Kathy's like, Kyle would you carry me? She's like, no. So Garcell arrives in a wacky full-on COVID suit. Looks like she's come to pick up ET. Yeah, it was very brandy Redmond. Yeah, and she's like doing the black light thing on everybody. And Ryn is just like, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Oh Jesus and she tells us this is the car sound like love the free fun

Non-judgmental Garsell. Oh, so she's being judgmental of you. Yeah, so yeah Wants to give me a connection fit and I'm not gonna have it history rewriters And yeah, Garsell's like oh these bitches had gov it I'm not walking in there without being prepared. Oh So now it's now it's nighttime and crystals in her room at the hotel And she's doing her hair and then Garsell shows up and I don't know if anyone cop this But I really it was amused Crystal's new to reality TV. So she clearly forgot that they were cameraman because she opens up the door for Garsell

and Garsell walks in and she just closes it up. The cameraman. I love an unsmoozed moment. So I was deeply entertained by that door closing in the cameraman. I was like, she forgot there was another human being there. Or maybe that's just the door closing cameraman. Like that's his job or her job is to just deal with the door closing because Erica has that poor door

closed cameraman working really hard later too. Where you just see like the shaky cam of the closed door camera person. And like, oh God, now what do I do? This whole episode is the plight of the door closed camera person. Yeah. So, um, Crystal's like, oh, you missed a lot What do I do? This whole episode is the plight of the door closed camera person. Yeah.

So, um, Crystal's like, oh, you missed a lot last night with Erica. Uh, you know, she really wore her heart and her sleeve last night. I mean, Tom's cheating. He's sick. Da-da-da-da. And Garcell's like, wow, it's shocking. She's like, wait, Tom is cheating? Because when Erica was at my house, it was a totally different story.

And we got a flashback of Erica with Garcell and Garcell asked a question like, so there's no third party on Tom's part. And she goes, not that I know of. And that was what? A month ago that she said that. Yeah. So then they leave for dinner and Sutton is Sutton shows off. Basically, they're all showing up to Erica's place.

So I thought they were going to be going to Erica's mansion or whatever here. I thought when they sent my place. Yeah, I thought they were looking for the place so they could go party there or something. Or T.P. or something. Yeah, or something or have lay up hoop in the front guard, something. But no, they were going to her hotel. And so they're all arriving and stuff. And Eric was like, let's have some drinks, girls. Like ready to have a fun night, which is not gonna happen. No.

So the girls are showing up and Crystal's like, wow, this is like a casita, which of course brought me back to Gina on Real House, was of Orange County. I have like a cita in the back of house like I might see the my casino so So there's a source box So now crystals making cocktails and They're just like propping up Erica Garsell's like Erica girl I swear to God what doesn't break you makes you stronger and

possibly gives you a small role in coming to America too am I right? Am I right Erica? Listen I'm just saying what doesn't kill you makes you stronger just to make you feel better and remind you of how successful Kelly Clarkson is. Since you've been gone so much has happened. I mean, listen, behind these haze lies, I can't even go on with all the things that I've been learning lately, but just walk on by and we'll have a lovely dinner together. So, Erica's like, really? I'm wanting to get stronger then.

And they kind of laugh. And second, she goes, Oh, Erica, you're not broken yet. Give it time. You've got a lot more coming to you girl. Like she has this, Sutton is such an asshole. Like I really like Sutton, but wow, she's really like, oh, you're not broken yet. She has this error about her.

Did you see her on, watch what happens live? I keep just, please ask me to. I know. Did you see her on, did you see her on, did you see her? I just to do this. I know. Did you just watch that live? Did you just listen? I'm keeping it on lately, which is weird for me, but I just keep it going while I scroll through the phone or whatever, just in case.

And Sutton was so awkward on watch what happens. Who would have thought? She's so cute. Oh my God. Well, you really see what the editors do for her on this show because on that one, he would be like, so, just just I'm just making something up because I don't remember it was a while ago but he's like

so sudden do you think that Erica knew anything about Tom and she'd be like oh oh oh okay okay and you know it's live, so it's like tick, tick, tick, tick. It's a very slow game show answerer. Yes, and the guest would try and recover for her. The other guest would be like, oh well, you know, and she'd go, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and then she'd talk over the other guest the whole time,

but never say anything. It was so weird. Every time it got to her, Sutton, what do you think about this? Oh, oh, oh, well, I think, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I probably hated that. So I feel bad for Mauricio, because then the next thing that happens is that they go outside and Kyle goes, oh my God, the view of this mountain is amazing. Oh my God, I'm like, well, Mauricio, I'm sorry, you're gonna have to sell that like into house

and build a new one by a mountain. Because Kyle is now seeing a place that has a better view that also features a mountain, sorry. So let's see. Everybody's kissing, drinking, chair thing, and so they're all sitting down in the living room. And of course, Kathy can't just sit down. She has to be like,

Oh, Rina, could you move over? So, her friend of moves over. So Kathy can sit where she wants. And then they're like, so who's back there? Where are the doors closed? And she's like, oh, Lai is here. She's taking care of Tiago. You know, she's with Tiago all day.

I had to bring her and Katika's all your help is back there behind those doors. She has, she's like, well, I only have Lai in the dog. I mean, I used to have two houses. Well, I guess, I guess there are three houses and I don't have any of that anymore, okay? Hey, listen, here's something that's gonna Chom Chom America. I just learned how to go to the bank in March

I didn't even know how to do a deposit. I didn't even have a debit card Wow 18M meant attempt to Tom's meat all right. I'd tickle his food pot and cash would drop out of his ass crack Used to call him smells Far's Fargo. All right. He jumped that he was gonna send the transfer to Tinney Bank. Okay. And people are like, you don't know how to use a bank. Erica, give me a break.

You were not born rich and just suddenly lost everything. Your ass worked at shakies. Okay. Shakers. Okay. You know how to deal with cash. Yeah, this was like an odd, an odd odd. I just don't understand.

She's pulling an Oprah. You know, it's like Oprah's, Gail, Oprah and Gail's big adventure. When Oprah's like, I don't even know how to put gas in. That's how rich I am. And Gail had to like show her how to use gas. I believe that with Oprah, though. Like I believe that. Eric is trying to pull an Oprah and it's just not working like you are no Oprah

ma'am okay, I can't tell I can't tell if it's real or fake but either way to me it's just I I don't know it just it feels like it just runs so counter to Everything she's always saying about like herself and her whole image is just like I Don't know. So then, um. She's like, I've never had a debit card. I've never, I don't even know how to do in the positive.

And Grystal's like, we need to take care of ourselves. She's, yeah, but for 23 years, I didn't have to. So there's that. And Kathy is like, no, it's okay. I mean, I don't know how to use a debit card. You know, I just don't know. Give yourself a little time. I mean, I hear there's a thing called the learning on X where you can go in there and learn how to use a debit card. You know, I just don't know. Give yourself a little time. I mean, I hear there's a thing called the learning on X

where you can go in there and learn how to use a bank. You could do that. You could start up for classes. I just like the way Kathy thinks, give yourself some time as if like, this is going to be a very difficult process of learning how to use an ATM. Like it might require like some ramping up

and like, you know, some YouTube tutorials, et cetera. All right, so everybody's quiet because ain't nobody believed this, okay? So everybody's just quiet and then they're like, well, are we hungry? So she was, well, let us say this, we had all the room service and it arrived in bags and let's not be too precious to buy in it, okay?

And Kathy's like, oh my God, this is hilarious. Things in bags. No one's taking this out besides I don't even know if I know how to do this. I'm gonna give it a go. Oh She's like opening it from like the side of the bag Like it's like Kathy does an entire opening on the front she's just writing into the bag She just has her fork and knife. She just slicing into the bag like it's take It was delicious So how's it going on Kyle's hair She's like well last night. I made lasagna want just to remind everyone that I am ramping up to be a

Lifestyle person. I made lasagna and I made a big thing of bread and Kathy said do you need me to help and like she didn't help at all Not at all. Not at all. Well, I swept the floor. You don't even know what a broom looks like, Kathy. And Kathy's like, well, I do. I ride one darling. Mm-hmm.

So, Kathy's like, oh, we're having fun, right? We're having fun. You know what that means? Oh, by the way, we Googled an address and found one of your houses, Erica. And she's like, Oh, okay. And then we see Kyle and Crystal on the phone in a clip of flashback of crowd going, Oh, wait, did he sell it?

So also it's the one that's right by here, right? And she goes, Yes, it's less than a mile away. And I don't think you have that anymore. Looks like he sold it in 2018. Erica's like, how can you just sell something without telling me? How can you do it? Well, apparently he can do a lot of things without telling you if we're to believe everything you say.

Like go to the ad. Just something's like, they can't. And when they do the forensics, they'll find out. Forensics is very important. And in California, they will find everything that is communal properties. And Kyle's like they will find everything that is communal properties. And Kyle's like, yeah, it's been a long time. It's just 2018.

Wow, still didn't know, huh? She's like, nice. Really? This is great, Kyle. Anything else you want to bring up? Like, Erica's face is like this fucking woman. Yeah. Can I have five minutes?

Yeah. So then, Sutton starts in with the Erica even more important than your attorney is your for Brent 16 Yes, especially with these men and Brenna's like wow Wow Whoa, wow Wow Wow How do ten C. C. C. C. C? Sorry, just rehearsing my CSI reboot forensics.

So then, yeah, they're basically all saying how they need to find out where all the money is. But I'm like, what is, how does this work? If there are people who have true claims on that money and you're trying to dig up the money? Part of me thinks that like if Erica were complicit with what Tom was up to, I don't think that she, it is in her, I don't think she wants to dig up that money at all. In fact, you're probably going to get laid.

No, but forensic accountants are all over that. Don't worry, ladies. They might not be on Erica's team, but they're, they're on it. Don't you worry. So Teresa, I can't, because Garth Sosis, well, what did they find that you can't find? They're like, oh, well, it comes through your bank accounts and they find out everything.

I'm only that a half of a soul than 2018, which I didn't know about. Yes, right, like that. And Teresa, I guess they're gonna, if you're gonna find out, you're gonna find out money is deep deep deep like Turks and Kiko so many deep deep offshore Muhammad's money different corporations shell company money the Greek liquid is come dandruff chance stop it. Yeah. Yeah.

It's just like melting, melting, and drew a pile of skin is coming off. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so. I'm going to go shatter. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm like, I seem to remember seeing an episode of Wonder Woman when I was a kid where someone like someone melted and that's what happened to them. They just start speaking deeper and deeper and they like melt. I don't know. It was really disturbing. So Sutton offers her ex-husband's team, the people who went after her ex's money, which I mean obviously they're great because Sutton's living the life.

So Rynas says, you know, if there's big money, you want to find that, because you get half of it, Ryan. You get half. That's a good news. So then Kathy's like, let's go around the table, let's do one of these games. Okay, one word that you think of that you think of yourself as whatever. So Durek goes, okay, one mad. Hardworking, which of course is two words. And then of course, Kyle says, I'm honest, honest. Yeah. And the Eric it just waves it away like fuck off. Hey, man, man. Here's my

words suck my dick. All right. And Kat is like, well, there's too many words for me, so I would say proud. And so, you can't really go see it. You, you, you. I guess, telling Crystal. And then Crystal's like, what's that word? I can't think of it. And then Kyle goes, what would Confucius say? At which point everyone's like,

whoa, what was that? But then she's like, no, because they're related, they're related. And everyone goes, oh, I thought you were just being fucking rude. And then she jokes, why Kyle? Because I'm Chinese and they all start cracking up. So they asked her how she found out she was related to Confucius. And her dad was born in the same village and they have one of the longest family trees in the world. And something's like, okay, well that's fun. I would've said pants if I were you. Pants, pants would be a good word too.

Okay, what does Confucius say about pants? Okay, for me I would say, eccentric, okay. And then Erica goes, hmm, for me, tough. Not like, ah! But more like mentally, I'm really tough. Yeah. And so Garth's all like, I think we're very similar.

Not fame wise, I'm obviously more famous than you. But you know, you have a hard shell And there's a very fragile person inside there. I'm not fragile talented. That's more me, but fragile Existing that's more you and I think you've had to fight your way of fight sleep all those things your way up You know for for me there's a talk show there's TV and film success for you I Forgot what we were talking about and Eric is like And Garsell is like you've just had to fight your way like she's trying to build her up or whatever But she's also trying to do the interview thing with her right. Yeah, so she's like you had to fight your way up

Didn't you Eric? Oh, yeah, and I'm not done. No, no, you're not done. And listen, I'm not worried about you. We will always end up on top. Yeah. So yeah, Kyle's like, Erica projects a tough girl persona, but you can really like project so much. Okay, and like, will you come out on top? I don't know, but I'll try my best to undermine her. That's for sure

Yeah, so the next morning Everybody's getting ready Garsell and Crystal and Erica are gonna go on a hike because they don't want to do the shopping trip and Kyle's going off the bat how she needs to buy her kids online gifts right now and Rinna says, yeah, Harry Hamlin says, if shoppers and hikers and the hikers are crystal Erica and Garcell and they're just walking through the desert and Erica's like, oh look, there's little animals scurrying by getting into their own little animal car accidents that will set the stage for the future little animal court cases. Oh, so then they talk about Garsell's childhood a little bit in Miami and

How her mom was so afraid of lizards coming in that she wouldn't even shut the she wouldn't even open the door and Erica's like whether that lizards and hey And so she basically talks about growing up and how she had seven siblings and she forgot the name of one of them She's like, oh, sorry, Carol. Sorry. Oh, it's Carol. Oh, it's Carol. For Carol, bitch. So they get to the top of,

they get to the top of this mountain, and they're like, they're looking out like, wow, it was worth it. But then later on, we see like drone footage, and it's basically just like a little hill. It's just like a, it's just a little something and other like, wow, we made it to the top of this enormous, enormous mountain. So they, they get to the top there and they sit down and then we cut over to the other women who are shopping and drinking champagne and

boutique and everything. And Kyle's dream comes true. Her ultimate dream, which is that Nikki Hilton face times Kathy while they are filming Real House Was A Breathly Hills. So this gives Kyle a chance to associate, right? So Nikki calls it, and Nikki is such a brat. She calls up, she's like, oh, mom, it's snowing so much. Oh, and then everything she's saying is like, oh, the TV won't work. Mom, it's snowing so much. Whoa.

And then everything she's saying is like, oh, the TV won't work. Ew, I hit my slipper as mom. Ew. And Carol's like, oh, hi, Nikki. You have to see what your mom is wearing. She looks ridiculous. And she's like, oh my god, mother,

gross. I mean, what are you just wearing? Lairings in a shirt. Zachary. And Carol's like, yeah, she doesn't listen to us, you know? I mean, what do you just wring? Lerring. Lerring. And a shirt. Zachary. And Kyle's like, yeah, she doesn't listen to us, you know? I mean, and the girls, you know, they're just kissing her butt telling her she looks great. I mean, see, look at, look, Kathy.

Look at Mickey. She even looks good sitting around her house. She looks chic. And she's like showing the phone to everyone. Look at Nikki. Look at my, look at my niece, Nikki Hilton. Television zone, Nikki Hilton, everyone, look, look. And Kathy's like, why dress up?

I mean, it's not like I'm at a fashion show or something. And Nikki goes, your outfit is awful, buy and hangs up. So then we go back to Girls on Rock. And they're all just silence, like not really understanding what to do They're kind of like looking over at the view like look at all this shit that nobody's built me thing on top of yet And Garsell's like peaceful. Yeah, wow really Quiet yeah quiet Why? Erica, this is...

Erica, this is like you after you're done residing a song. It's very quiet and people are stunned. So, Garsell is asking Erica where... Thinking where her head's adding everything. She's like, oh wow. It's a new story of a day. There's a hero in today in Chicago. Not the musical I started, actual Chicago. And I don't want, I don't know about you. I'll find out. I'm

exhaust. You know what's hard. I just only learned how to use a telephone today. I mean so much is going on. And Garth sells like so his business was his and yours was yours. Did you get an allowance? I mean, how did this work? And she tells us, listen, I know I'm not supposed to ask people about their finances. We see the cliff of her with Sutton going, so Sutton, how did you get your money?

Sutton being like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, hold on, hold on. Can I say it, Ronnie? something that I feel like you will appreciate. There is an enormous monarch butterfly floating around out there and it is so distracting. So in the side of my eyes, it always looked like there's someone moving and I was like, if anyone would appreciate a giant butterfly, that's distracting. It's Ronnie because you raised some. Yeah, I sure did.

Um, I they weren't the most beautiful things now. Now I understand mothers that don't support all of their children the same. You know how you're like, oh my God, my mother obviously loves my sister more, because she's successful, she's pretty, she's smart, and then you talk yourself out of it like, no, mothers love you just the same.

They really don't, because like one of mine was really pretty and I was like, you were so pretty and I paid attention to it and the ugly ones I was like, if don't look at me. Get out of your mouth. Your name is not mine. And your name is mine, okay, not mine. You two go play together.

Now what about you, Priscilla? Priscilla, will you come with mommy to get a sandwich? Do you have matcha outfits with Pursuella? I wish. I wish. Little handbags. They're like a Pandora. You're at least a, and that's Pandora.

Yeah, it's a little matching shawls, a little butterfly shawl. It's like a picture of like, magic shawls. It's a picture of you. Every picture is you with like, Pandora, the butterfly on your shoulder just smiling. Okay, so she's just asked her about her money and Garsell's like, I know I'm not supposed to ask about money, but no debit card. I mean no allowance. It's killing me not to ask. I have to know. So she says, did you guys share everything and Eric is like, um, that's kept very far away for me, all of that stuff. And she tells us, I credit cards, everything was credit cards. If I needed cash, Tom would give it to me.

And she tells Garsell, I'm not privy to any of that stuff. And Garsell says, well, that's good. Yeah, it's very good, because it's not my business. I'm not a lawyer. Mm-hmm, fairly makes sense. And then Garsell is like like so with any of these lawsuits Did you have a heads up is that why you got divorced? America's like

I will not and I will not and then I will respond by saying no, I did not I shake my head Yes, I not my head yes, but I'm telling you, no, I did not. This was a this was a long time coming. Okay, it was a battle with someone whose personality had completely changed. Okay, like do you know what it's like when someone has driven off a mountainside and tumbled their car over and landed in the ocean with a seed by three clams that brought them to shore? No, it's a different personality. Yeah, and she says that once he had his head injury, that she started seeing all this decline, and it would come down to simple things. Like they used to have conversations, but then he just started repeating things over and over, and forgetting what he was talking about, and she would have to hear the same stories ten times a day. But if she had the nerve to

say, oh, you said that already, he would flip into a rage. And she says, I was a whipping boy. I took the egg on the frustration. And she says her grandmother had Alzheimer's. And so she knew what was happening. Like your dad, Crystal, you heard that had Alzheimer's. Oh, by the way, I am completely giving up information right now that you gave me in private but nobody taking notes on that because it's totally not gonna matter later on in this episode and you mentioned to me that your dad had committed suicide right. So um crystal talks about that and growing up you know having that in your family how difficult it is because you've got this person basically abusing you, you know, and not really knowing that they're doing

it because they're not themselves and that her mom had to leave. And so she's kind of supporting Erica and like, you had to leave. If that's what was happening, then you, you had to get out of there. Yeah, and then she's basically, you know, it's hard, it's is to watch someone going through this. You can't help. And he's resisting everything to this day from what I've been told. And that after Broadway, they had a small reconnection because they were sitting having dinner together every day, I guess, because of the pandemic, but he still was declining rapidly. You know, I would get calls. I got a call from a lawyer at the firm And he was crying to me and he was saying we have to do something we have to do something

All I need you to do is to go to the bank and just pull out $50 and we can solve this whole thing But unfortunately, I got to the ATM and I didn't know what to do so I left I mean I saw a TV screen in my wedding moment, so I got the fuck out of there. Um, so yeah, she said, I'm not sure what she means by this, like she was getting a call from the lawyer saying, we have to do something,

like if she's talking about the downfall of the agency, like they were all power, I'm not really sure. Or maybe about Tom about like getting in proper care or something. Yeah, so um, Garsell's like, well, um, let's go have a mimosa and Erica's like, well, after all this shit, I want liquor. And Chris, Chris will says, don't worry, all this is going to pass.

And Erica says, yeah, I just need this pain to stop. I, you know, I can't talk to him even though he still calls me every day. And they're like, he calls you to like, yeah, that's another hard part. I had to prove my, I had to have my lawyer call his lawyer and say, stop calling up because he isn't legal jeopardy. And I have to be able to say I haven't spoken to him since he left, which a haven't. And she says that he's saying, it's, you know, I love you. I miss you. Please come home. You sure? Please come back to me. please. And I'm like, stop it, honey. You need to get help and I can't give it. So, and the key thing to take away there is that Erica

completely volunteer that information. So on television, right. But here we are. Okay. So, you know, and I'm kind of not going to like go off because this is so sad, you know. So whether I think Erica's full of shit, I do, or not, this is so sad, you know. So whether I think Erica's full of shit I do, or not, this is so sad and anybody dealing with this in their own family knows how painful, dementia and all that stuff is. So I really don't feel like ragging on Erica. I'm sure I'll have plenty of other chances this season, but I don't really feel like going on and on about her right now, but they're just really pressuring her to talk in every single scene and spill shit.

And she's probably telling them, like, I'm not supposed to be saying this stuff. You know, and they're like, but you have to, you're on the show, you need to open up. This is what you're on the show for. You can't not say anything. And so she's kind of being forced over and over. Like she didn't, she wasn't gonna get it onto it

in this mountain, you know, you could tell at the beginning that she was like But they just kept asking and asking so point is she's pretty over it at this point She's definitely over it But she would have been over it even if there were no scandal and they were just asking her what kind of yogurt she had This has kind of been Erica's stick for five years Which is that if you ask her any sort of question It's like you have to approach just right. And if it gets bullshit, like I'm sorry, you're on this show.

If you didn't want to talk about it, don't come back for the season, right? Or quit filming. I'm sorry. Um, I agree with you. I think that she's going through a whole hell of a lot of shit. And, and you know, a lot of people feel like this is just like 100% all theatrics. And it's like fun to joke about it. But I think that there, like there is a mix in this. there's like genuine human emotions that are going on and there's genuine shit But you know she comes on in the last episode with this whole like oh It was so difficult that it had this thing that we all fell was just over the top and a lot of people felt like there's a lot of

Fakery and I think that like I think that that car cell was picking up on some of that and she wants answers. And also, like, we cannot, I personally don't feel like I consider here and complain about how, like, you know, oh, these women are gonna give her a pass. There's so much lighter on Erica than they were on Denise.

And then be like, oh, well, the poor Erica is over it, you know, like, like she is over it. But I also feel like, you know what? Like, I don't mean poor Erica. I mean, part of what I'm saying is just the dementia stuff, because I've noticed like in a lot of conversations about it, people who have dealt with that, not Erica, but people, commenters or whatever, who have dealt with it in their own family, they get very, they take it very personally when you, when you discuss Erica's thing being bullshit or like it's bullshit, Erica leaving Tom, you know, if she didn't know all the, if she didn't know anything, like she says she didn't, right?

And Tom suddenly started this mental decline and then she left Tom when he was in this mental decline, knowing that she married a Fucking old ass man in the first place. It's heartless. So either you're she said it she set herself up in this situation Where either she's heartless for leaving her husband to sick or she's She knows about all of this money and she's trying to run away from any of the blame, right? She's kind of set set herself up But when we talk about the dementia part, people see that in their own lives and they're like, well, you don't know what it's like dealing with a dementia

patient. And saying that she left his heartless is bullshit because they do get abusive. And I dealt with this with my dad. And it's like, yeah, but I'm not talking about your dad. You know what I mean? So it's just too sensitive of a subject. When it comes down to like the dementia stuff, what the fuck do I know? I'm dealing with, you know, we have a little bit of that in our family that we've had to deal with. And I just, I don't know, it just gets uncomfortable. I would rather just go back to the crime stuff so I can drag her over the calls.

Well, you're entitled to that. No, of course, no dementia. Dementia Alzheimer's is horrible stuff to that. No, of course, no dementia, dementia Alzheimer's, it's horrible stuff to watch. And I, yeah, I'm not necessarily of the conspiracy theorist of like, oh, he doesn't have it or whatever. I don't really know. I think there's so much of the stuff that I don't know. What I've always said is that I ultimately feel like Erica is, there's a sense of dishonesty. Things are not adding up, and I don't know if she owes it to us to have them add up,

and maybe we should be happy that things don't add up because it's really fun to try to figure it out. But yeah, in terms of dementia, Alzheimer's, those are, whether he's very difficult or not. You know, first of all, he's 82 or some 83. So of course, there is some mental decline either way. Like we're all going to get there. Hopefully, the will be that old. But besides that, whether he has it or not, or this is just a whole ruse for him to get off from having to go to trial or any of that, this didn't just happen after

the whole story of he got into a car accident. And then he hit his head and then that's when all of this crime started. It's not isn't the case. This didn't all just happen after a car. And we all know from legal documents online that anybody can look at. This should not. So the story is bullshit, whether the dementia is real or not, right? Yeah, that part, like that there's a lot of.

They're just, they're just some weird ass shit going on here. So, now we go back to Kyle's house where everyone is, is reassembling and Rinna walks in and she has a diet snapple. And for some reason, I thought that was so funny because I can already imagine that scene playing out of her at a deli being like, oh my god, look at all the stuff they have here hoes Ham and cheese sandwich look at that they've have a meatballs up. Why is that a meatball sub? God, I love a meatball sub I'm just gonna have a diet snaple that looks good. Yeah, that looks good diet snaple

Yeah, so a Kathy is out picking up tacos for everybody, which is a horrifying thought And Erica's like, I just want some fucking desserts, all right. So then Garsell sits down and they've already had this whole thing, right? So Garsell now that they're back is like, so yeah, Erica, you're sharing that Tom calls you. That is so sad. She goes, yeah, it's bad. She starts just doing your lips dick. Yeah, pretty man, pretty man, so sad, pretty man, sad, all right. And she's like, do you feel like the stop the train I'd like to get off? Do you feel like that?

And she's like, oh, oh, oh, thank God. Kathy is here from Del Taco. Thank God. So Kathy walks in with a bunch of, she has a bunch of Del Taco bags and she's having her driver help bringing the tacos in and everything. She's like, I got tacos everyone. I got little tacos. So they all sit down there and have their tacos and everything and they start talking

about Christmas plans in America. It's like, yes, I'll be in Hancock Park and my little, little, little boat, my tiny, little Hancock park abode for Christmas. Yeah. Somebody gave me a pink trail because I needed something to feel fun and light. And so Kyle's like, okay, so what's the latest, Erica? What's the latest? She's like, well, I'm just sitting here waiting for a transcript to come through. I know, I think I know how it went, but I still got to make sure. Yeah. So she tells us how she has to be careful because she's not supposed to be, you know,

saying a lot, but of course that doesn't satisfy anybody's curiosity. Car won't shut the fuck up about it. That's for sure. So she announces that she might be going back early, depending on when new she gets. And Garth says, like, yeah, well, it's been rough. Now Erica, I'm sure you don't mind me saying that Erica shared with us that Tom calls her still. And Kyle's eyes flare. Kyle is like new gossip has arrived in your inbox. She's like, like, she is so excited to hear this. Yes, and Erica's like, actually, I knew by you say it

because I feel like I betrayed my friendship and my friends and my police! Go ahead! And she's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, I didn't want to do it like that. No, no, thank you. I'm backing out of this one. Oh, well, so let me tell the fucking story.

Tom calls me all the time. I won't take his call though. And you got it out of me once, and now you can, now you want me to do it again. And Carsel's like, no, no, that wasn't my attention. Oh, don't fucking shake a coat at it. So I'm like, Carsel was not getting anything out of you. Like you fully volunteered that on that hilltop. You know, I know she's coming for Carcell, who I think is being the most respectful. I know, well part of it is like, don't steal my lines, bitch.

I do my monologues, and I want to. And the other part is Erica is probably just losing at a production right now. She's probably like fucking enough. You had the interview lady come to me already from one scene and now we've got to do this again. How many times are you going to make me do this? That's what I think is it. She's taking off production. My sense was that she was frustrated about larger issues than what Garsell was doing, right?

So it's like, well, I've seen Erica lose her temper and I don't know why she's so upset. It's just that when she gets triggered, she goes from zero to 100 so that we get the Eric of Mad Montage. You know, like the, you should say last, you stupid face or whatever it is that she said to read. I say important shit. You say too much boring shit. Yeah, like you don't know what keeps me up late at night.

Yes, and there are always, every single time, it's completely uncalled for. And in the past, we've always thought it was just production coming into going, Erica, everyone's calling you a robot, okay? You have to show some emotion at some point. And so she's like, fine, you want a motion? Here it is!

You say stupid shit! She's like, whoa, whoa, No, wrong time. Wrong time. Nothing even happened. And so Garth says, well, we were walking back and you said that. You shared it with us. And she's been so open. She talked about Tom cheating on her.

She talked about something changing with his brain. Basically, she's like, I thought this was okay. She's been so open. She's like, this is the last thing that I wanted to do is have that look on your face. And she's basically like, I don't know what I did to set her off. So Erica's now crying, actually. I was showing a private moment, something I haven't said and something, sometimes not

everything is up for discussion, just because someone tells me something about one of you does not mean I go and bring it up. That's Kyle's job, okay? I've been very open and very honest. So I think it was a little dirty, a little dirty. Yeah, and Garsell's just like, and I love that Garsell doesn't say I'm sorry over and over. She doesn't at all actually. She's just like, look, Eric, I know you're going through a lot of shoots. You didn't have to do it twice. You didn't once. You don't have to do it twice.

And she gets her like deep, you know, mafia voice where she's like, you didn't have to do it twice. Where she gets serious. And Sogar says like, okay, well, all on that. And she's like, yeah, you got it once. You didn't have to do it in front of everybody. Once was enough. She goes, okay, got it once you didn't have to do it in front of everybody once was enough She goes, okay got it got it yeah And then this only so much I could take right now, God, so she stands up

She just I just want to go to the bathroom Minute she starts like pick up crying now Yeah, and so she goes to the bathroom and the poor door closing camera person has to chase her. They're like, the Nellie be get after her right now. And I don't shed a door is closing. You see the camera going down. I need to be, get that door closing on you, Penelope. Get there.

Like, how close can I get to the door without Erica coming out and throwing a toilet paper roll at my head? So then, uh, Crystal's like, yeah, so, um, she shared it with us because, um, you had already, but you had already gotten into the car when she said she didn't want to talk about it. So, which by the way, Crystal, maybe next time chime in like during the confusion. But also, when Erica's like that, no, nobody wants to chime in. You just want to stay the hell away from that.

But doesn't that also get to the crux of many of our frustrations about Erica that she says she's like doesn't want to share, doesn't want to talk about it. And again, I think in real life, I would say, you know, people are entitled to keep things private. I mean, even on these shows, people are entitled to keep things private. I mean, even on these shows, people are entitled to keep things private. They're allowed to, to a certain degree. But like, how many times has Erica probably told her castmates, don't bring this up because I don't want to talk about it, right?

And that's why I'm like, I don't, that's why I've always felt like she has been a problem on this show because I- She's always like that. And then what she does- And then what she does share, when she does share one little thing she says, like, I opened up to you, that's enough.

It's like she wants to do, drip it out on her own, her own time. And I think the problem also with this season is that she could have just said, this is legal and I cannot discuss it. Period. She could have. But she's choosing to discuss it

to paint this picture of Tom that they need for their defense. I mean, it's coming in with all of this, you know, the mental decline and the, you know, everything she's doing, it, none of it makes sense because it's coming as developments unfurl on the show. And so she's using the show to paint this public image

of Tom for the defense. And so she wants to be able to do that, but then not do anything else. And that's just not how it works. You can't pick and choose. If you're gonna bring it into evidence, as they say, on the good wife, then it's into evidence.

There's no objection, ma'am. Well, she, I mean, the thing is that this is all, you know, like, it's all coming back to haunt her, right? Because she was very careful about what she, what she has been very careful about, what she shared on the show. And part of that has been sort of like a dishonest disclosure about what her relationship is with Tom. And a lot of the things that she was saying,

it turns out we're not true about their happiness or the affairs, the not affairs, what's going on. A lot of it was not true and because she has this history of really not sharing stuff, now everything that she could be saying now could actually be true. Like, it could actually be true, but now she has a credibility issue because she was not really honest with her situation on a cast that has badgered many cast members about honesty. And I think that's why people are like upset is that she told us one thing and it wasn't the truth. And honestly, she might not have told us the truth

because she wasn't able to face the truth. And I get that, I understand that. But regardless, I think the fact that she has held back all these years and been so reserved and kind of self-produced that it's, I think this is now going back to Hunter because now she has all of us, all the podcasts, all the Instagram memes, people watching who are just kind of like picking at this right now.

I mean, could there be anything more annoying for her than all of this bullshit? All of us, all of our noise that we're making is probably the most annoying thing ever for her. But, you know, this is what, this is what, you know, years of not being open on the show has let's go. Yeah, too bad, too bad, Sucka. So then, Crystal's like, yeah, she shared it with us, but you didn't hear it.

Sorry. And so, Doreet, of course, pulls a Doreet, where she's like, well, if somebody says, I don't want to talk about it, well, it gives an indication that they don't want to talk about it. And, Crystal's like, no, you're making it sound like I did this intentionally and I did not. And Chris was like, no, because you were in the car so you didn't hear, right? And

Grestle starts crying. It's just like, I don't want to hurt her for Christ's sake. And Grestle's like, yeah, you just didn't hear it. Okay. Yeah. So I never went else. It's just like Grestle's inub all they're giving her that look like your fuck now Good luck Saka Yeah, and then it just sort of ends with Erica sobbing in the bathroom like See really over she really over plays her hand though like, you know, like I felt something for a minute, but enough for a ready. I actually do feel bad for a good amount of time.

I do feel bad. I think it's that she's in a terrible annoying, sucky situation. I do feel bad for her, but, you know, no, this is also, it's also, I repeat that, not today's statement. All right, everybody, thank you also it's also I repeat that today. Same. All right, everybody.

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