Watch What Crappens - RHOBH: Rinterrogation

Episode Date: September 30, 2022

It's the moment we've been waiting for on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills: Rinna finally confronts Kathy. The truth finally comes out! All the controversy is not just about a conga line.... It's about a conga line AND an insatiable desire to hear "Billie Jean." Does Kathy's depravity know no bounds??What did you think about the big confrontation?Be sure to check out our video recording of this recap here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/72647525?pr=trueSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Watch What Crapins Add Free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. Get ready for a double load of Queen of Hearts. It's me, Jujubee, and I return to guide sexy singles through some ronchy blind dates. Cameras off. Voice only. Launching during pride. Queen of Hearts takes Miami by storm, with Daeders' Cuppe from Tampa Bayes, Just Chas, and Brittany Brave to name a few. Follow Queen of Hearts on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to Watch Our Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I am Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the wonderful, the hilarious, the Billie Jean Lovin, dark-hearted man himself, Mr. Ronnie Caram, hi Ronnie, how are you? Hello, Bien. Welcome, welcome to a big, big episode of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Are you excited to do a real episode?
Starting point is 00:01:30 No, three minutes. Finally it's here. The big confrontation with Kathy Hill. I can't wait to see who did she call the Z word. I don't know this algebra for like what racist term you can't figure out Well, I guess it would be x right cuz that's algebra. It could be x It could be z but like normally x is for normally you get to z if already x and y are taken, but that's fine Okay, well, let's go with that Make your own slur that Kathy Hilton said. Which is what the internet's doing everyone's like, I heard she called a dog a pecan. I'm like, that's right, cancel her.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Take her down, everybody. Let's get her. Get Kathy, get her. My bitch's working my torch. Get her. We don't know. Well, you know why people are thinking that she's at a slur. It's because when you don't say the whole story, people are gonna think the worst.
Starting point is 00:02:28 People are gonna think the worst. Yeah, so lots. This is the much awaited confrontation between Kathy and Renna today. Before we dive into that, this is a crap and So if you're, you can not only listen to us record, you can watch us. For instance, you could watch Ronnie massaging his face with a Topic Ego bottle right now. It's cold. I'm trying to deep up this face for everybody. I know everybody's just coming here for some jerk off material.
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Starting point is 00:03:41 But of course, we also have a, we, oh, so normally we have a bonus episode every single week. This week, we have so many episodes that we instead are going to do. What did we say, Ronnie, we're gonna do. I think we're gonna do an extra, crapens on demand. Yeah, we're gonna do an extra.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Yeah, crapens on demand video. So any bonus person, $5 or $1, can see it, okay? Yeah. So that makes four crap ins on to man videos just this week alone. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, that's Patreon.
Starting point is 00:04:17 And we also have to take a seat on Mondays. And I'm sure if you, if this episode of Beverly Hills riled you up, got you mad, have, if you have lots of opinions, bring them Monday night. We'll mention it all. We're going to mention, you know, obviously we're talking about Bravo gossip, but I definitely want to hear what you guys all think about Rina versus Kathy, who is telling the truth. Does Kathy deserve to be forgiven?
Starting point is 00:04:44 Is Rina being a good friend? Is she not being a good friend? Is she butting her face into someone else's business? Is there hypocrisy? A foot? The answer for her says yes to all that. So anyway Also our Game of Thrones podcast is winter is crappin'ing. That's every Monday afternoon that comes out So join winter is don't join it just subscribe to winter is crappin'ing, that's every Monday afternoon that comes out. So join winter, don't join it, just subscribe to winter is crappin'ing. You'll get that a day earlier than everybody else if you're watching House of the Dragon, which chances are you are, because a lot of people are watching it. And what I was looking to say, who cares, really? I forgot, so it
Starting point is 00:05:19 didn't matter. I care. Wow, I care about what you're looking to say. I forgot, it'll go, oh, I have a listener request to those of you who really like to slute out there and get evidence. I would really like to see that original article from radar online that leaked the Lucy loot that caused that whole thing with remember when Lisa Vanderpump went to the wedding and she kind of made up with everybody and then Rina got mad that she made up with everybody and then that second article came out that was the leak that caused
Starting point is 00:05:48 all the trouble. I want to read that original radar online article and I cannot find it anywhere. I was looking this morning and I suck at it apparently. So if anybody could find that, would you would you shoot me a link? Are you working on a theory, Ronnie? Are you sure I'm just a slew thing in terms of language? Yeah, because today they well my theory is the same and my season my in that season my theory was that Rina was the leaker Because it didn't make any sense that Vanderpump makes up with everybody at Denise's wedding It gets everybody back kind of on her side and then Rina gets furious and goes and leaks this story, and then it starts the whole thing, which ended up being the end of Fanderpromp.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I've stood by that since that time that I declared Rina as a leaker, and I just need to re-read that article. I just need it in my evidence files. Yeah. I think it's all tied together. It looks like next week it's going it's it's the questions about leaking You're gonna come back. Rhonda you talk for a second because I'm about to sneeze. Oh, I was wondering why you're looking at that Bendas this thing when he sneezes. You know how some people scrunch up their face
Starting point is 00:06:54 Ben doesn't do that he looks to the side like he's talking to somebody at a party like he smiles and looks to the side Oh, it starts kind of nodding his head. No, that was actually because Dom brought my phone in here. Oh, I was like, what a weird, what a weird priest means. I was trying to be chill about that. And apparently I wasn't. Apparently I was like, hey, you're still. You're still a little bigger gunny. It was like, you saw someone you used to work with at a club.
Starting point is 00:07:18 You're like, hey, hey, Billie Jean. Hey, well, too bad. There's no way. No Billie Jean. Well, guess what, I didn't sneeze, but this talk about my behavior before I sneeze was enough to shoot the sneeze away. So let's get on.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I annoyed the sneeze out of your mouth. Our full person. Alright, let's start this. So we start over at the street's house, and she's with Phoenix, and she's like, Phoenix! Mama has to make a quick call. Mama has to call out to come. The thing is, she's filming a very scary movie.
Starting point is 00:07:48 You know what's allowed to see. It's like the time I told Daddy I was feeding him a snickers when he was blindfolded. And they gave him a celery stick. And I had to send you to the other room so you wouldn't see him sobbing and try to cross face off. Thank God Daddy has such weak nails. There's a positive to never having any natural foods, Fini. Go!
Starting point is 00:08:07 Oh. Oh. She's like, give me five minutes. Just give me five. I'm finished. I'm 10 minutes. Give me 10. I'm finished.
Starting point is 00:08:16 It's like five minutes. And then Fini realizes that she's being sent out the room. And she's like, but then I can't see Kyle. So there you have it, everyone, America's biggest Kyle fan right here in Dorito, it's Phoenix. Literally something that no Halloween fan has ever had. More Kyle. More Kyle.
Starting point is 00:08:40 So Dorito, by the way, I noticed, so Dorito's FaceTime in Kyle and I noticed that Dorito has an extra battery that she has attached to her phone and it's dazzled. I mean, I know people like to be fashionable in all senses of their lives, but I feel like bedazzling your spare battery is like, you know what, I should support the artistic statement,
Starting point is 00:09:00 but I also think it's ridiculous. Well, it's not an LVB dazzle, so to that I say, you poor hooker. Okay. You're poor, you're secretly poor. So when Phoenix leaves the room, Doreet does that thing where she grabs her heart and she's like, oh, my baby is so cute. Fuck off with that.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Okay. We know that you're not really tearing up every time your baby leaves the room. Yeah. So she gets Kyle on the phone. And Kyle does have bangs again, which I thought was so funny that they like gave I don't know what did they give her like bang extensions or whatever like they definitely she was so traumatized last time she got bangs in the whole world was like fuck Kyle and her bangs okay so this time she's like I can't do that again. I would do anything for my art, but not things.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Not things. Dereets like, oh my goodness, coil, G, you're in character. Look at you in character, just like a regular, front-be-towns person. Kyle's like, I'm actually still at the hotel, I haven't started shooting yet. Kyle's doing the bend when he's about to sneeze. She's like, oh, okay, I'll be there in a minute.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Okay, you busy? You busy, you need me outside. You wanna do that? I'll be there. She's like, oh, okay, I'll be there in a minute. Okay, you busy. You busy. You need me. I want to be there. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You want me to come over for lunch, Jamie? LeCourts? Sure. Anytime. So, um, girls, like, yeah, I mean, we're just having, I'm talking like this because I'm an actor right now, but we're just having some coffee, but I'm in Georgia. And so it's later than you. So if I'm acting like different than you, it's because it's later where I am. I'm actually pretending like it's still morning, but actually it's past noon. It's actually afternoon, but as an actor, I think I can pull off this part. So to read, it's like, gee, well, let me tell you about crystals.
Starting point is 00:10:43 You know, the evening took such a turn because Rina left early and no one understood why Kyle. Yeah. Well, and Kyle's like, well, I mean, the whole Kathy thing, like that was mainly at me, you know, I mean, she did throw a few things out about you girls, I guess, but it was mainly about me. So to me, I don't even know why, because I didn't do anything wrong. Oh, there's the problem right there, Kyle.
Starting point is 00:11:06 You don't see one thing you did on this trip that could have possibly pushed Kathy over the edge. Really not one. Yeah, you know, exactly. And so Dorit's basically like saying that it felt like Kathy was seeing red. And she's like, sometimes the easiest person to pick on is your family. And I think that is something you can get over coil. And I think you guys have been through a lot, just like the time that we ran out of pringles for an entire weekend. And PK was the head of difficult time with it, but then we, we, we fixed it by Monday.
Starting point is 00:11:38 And kind of, I was like, yeah, well, on the final day, when we were on the way to the airport, Lisa told me that the majority of- Oh my god! I'm sorry, I'm a character character I thought someone might have been right there I was about to start running oh my god so it's so hard being an actor anyway um you know okay I heard that Kathy was saying things about me but Rynna didn't want to say what things because she didn't really want to hurt me with the whole camera crew there on this TV show that she's now trying to hurt me with in front of the whole camera crew she wanted time to like figure out what she was gonna say that Kathy had said. Actually, she's still figuring it out.
Starting point is 00:12:09 It's an ever-evolving story like Halloween. Which ends this October. So, um, yeah, basically now Kyle's crying. Now she's like, I mean, I don't want to get to a place where I can't repair with her again. So, maybe it's best that I don't know. Thank you, that was my performance for the day. Thank you so much. Welcome back to LA, so we can talk about it then. Movie-s-movie, am I right? Nothing's more frightened than a Rina with a bug up her ass. Get picky!
Starting point is 00:12:44 And Kyle's like, hey, do you like the nose ring that I have on? And Dread's like, gee, it suits you, but please don't come back with another broken nose, Kyle. Quote unquote, air quote, broken nose if you catch what I'm saying. Kyle. Kathy told Rina she's gonna break your nose before she burns your house down. Murdered your puppy and toss your tubes while you're sleepin'. In case Minipals doesn't stop you from trying to replicate
Starting point is 00:13:07 your stupid face on another person again. Talk to you soon, Carl! So now we go to Erica's house where she gets onto FaceTime with what looks like Ellen Green playing the role of Holly Hunter. It's her psychologist, Dr. Holly Hunter, too. I was like, what is Holly Hunter doing in city? So we have Dr. Jen man, Dr. Jen man, speaking like Holly Hunter.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And and Erica, Erica's like, well, I haven't go to therapy out and off for the past two years, but since I moved out and filed for divorce, I definitely made this a regular thing. I'm like, just say the sentence, Erica. Who's your producer today, Siri? Why are you talking like that? So she's like, well, I'll raise that
Starting point is 00:14:04 because I wanted to be a millenet, a moone. And last year was easier because I could sort of see the finish line. But now I'm settling into this. It's really difficult to accept. And Dr. Chen's like, well, you have to keep in mind that you have a grudging process. If a loss of marriage, you've lost your husband to be, your marriage had plenty of problems before this, but he was not who you thought it was. Was he?
Starting point is 00:14:30 And listen. Listen, she's like clutching a cigarette and shaking. I can't hear people watching. I know everything. It's like, you realize you're not in the firm anymore right therapists. So she's like, I just always think of Holly Hunter in the firm, that movie, the firm,
Starting point is 00:14:44 which was like sitting at like a dion of a Tom Cruise be like, hey, the jack of men. I was sick of Holly Hunter liking everything. So Eric was like, I've never been anyone that comes drama. I missed the tub. It was love it. It was a good tub. They had big blue eyes. They had nuts with downpast his ankles and he would occasionally trip over in the middle Tonight going to the bathroom. That was really funny. The Tom made everyone feel good. Yeah, and then we see flashbacks of good Tom like for instance the time Tom got her jewelry. Yeah, the time to got her the Cartier Panther ring I was like, yeah, I loved that that's Erica's montage.
Starting point is 00:15:26 The back when Tom was a good person. When he was giving me shit, he was just giving me lots of shit. And then like 2020, Tom, Tom telling her that he's proud of her. I'm like, I know this is trying to be a, remember the good times with Tom montage, but I'm pretty sure by 2020, your marriage was like such in the toilet that this was all just a sham scene. But anyway, so Erica is basically like, as sweet as he could be, he could flip on you
Starting point is 00:15:55 and it was really ugly. I mean, I mean, that literally it was be locked in there and bed. And it's like a wallowish just rolled right over and you're drooling everything. And then we see the clips of this and it's Tom with Fander Pomp, like, listen, you got everything. You got great looks in Erica Gond.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Great intellect. Excuse me, Erica. This is me talking, not you. And then that other time at the same dinner when he was like, hey, baby, I've run the operation. Yeah, no shit, Tom. Pardon me, Erica. It's like, really? Operation yeah no shit Tom pardon me Erica It's like really does time for Tom was so abusive when you were interrupting him and he was telling you to shut the fuck up
Starting point is 00:16:36 Yeah, and then doctor Jen is like well in one fell swoop you lost your marriage You lost your financial security. You lost your friends. You lost your beautiful singing voice I'm just kidding. It was never there. Let's see. what other things that you lose cuz I could do this all day you have to figure out your feelings about this and your feelings about the people that were harmed and Erica says well I'm gonna say something here that's not gonna be very popular I was on too I'm like okay you fucking sociopath even your shrink it's like I'm giving you and giving you a moment to at least pretend that you have any feelings whatsoever. And you can't even do it for one second. You've got my kind of one of the best actresses of our time sitting here, ma'am. If you can't
Starting point is 00:17:16 be vulnerable for Holly Hunter, there is no hope for you. Yeah, whenever I guess I'm going to something here, that's not a popular. You just know that the shrink was like, please check, you're not releasing a new album. Please check this. No, I was harmed. You know, to me, you know, Tom probably thought the rules didn't apply to him because it always worked out. And I want to believe that it got away from him and not that he orchestrated it in some sort of way. Excuse me, I had to interrupt your monologue, but did I hear that you're planning to do
Starting point is 00:17:47 a full orchestration with your next album or am I just really getting afraid? Here's the thing, doctor. I really risk becoming hateful, becoming mad, becoming something I don't want to be. Risk. And I risk myself of fitting myself into a 40 wasted old Navy the risk is gone It is done man, okay And so Dr. Jen is like okay Erica What you need to do is you need to stop running from it and she goes I'm afraid
Starting point is 00:18:20 Spail I would be afraid of Pennywise a clown too, but stop running from it I would be afraid of Pennywise the clown too, but stop running from it. Okay, you have to embrace it and I guarantee you it will be the first thing that Pennywise has actually ever run from instead. What am I even talking about? I don't even know. I think you need to operate on to these something that people are going to come for you. And you have to change your mind and to acceptance. Because it lasts the shortest when you resist it's the least. You know,
Starting point is 00:18:46 cannot blinds with less asses, fewer asses, that would be great. I mean, I'm not ashamed of my asses, but that's a lot of asses to give Holly Hunter Academy Award-winning anchoress of the piano. Erica, would you say now you did spend many years with Tom Dirty. More? How did that compare to seeing Harvey Cartel naked? I'm just wondering, because I've been through that too. Flop team two turned out he only had about $20 in his bank. That was a waste of night. I'm never going to him and that again. That's for sure.
Starting point is 00:19:21 So then we go to the pretty mess hair pop up shop, which I suspect this is just on a corner in West Hollywood on a sidewalk that they put those those greenery, you know, those fake greenery walls. Someone put some hedges up at Ben and Jerry's, okay, and some heat lamps and hedges at Ben and Jerry's parking lot. So, basically. This is also, I'm sorry to interrupt, but I know you're gonna skip this part and it really bugged me. It's like a service person.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Cause this is so Erica's personality. Mike, Erica's like playing with her hair and getting her makeup as she walks around and Mikey goes, Erica, you need to meet Vanessa. She's the party planner. She pulled this whole thing together and Erica goes, thank you Vanessa Anyway, I went to another the so cute and do anything you know how hard it was for Vanessa to lug all of that shit in her
Starting point is 00:20:11 Fort Fiesta and like get it standing on a sidewalk at West Hollywood Do you know can we get a little more can we look Vanessa in my please? Yeah, I mean do you know how hard it was to attach the pretty mess hair onto one of those Ben and Jerry cows? That was painted on the wall. It was difficult, okay, but she got it done, damn it So this is my half baked bangs try to get calm the way of our lead We decided to make this whole scene look pretty like Lisa hoxie miss your whole thing not hoxie so Real This is your whole thing not hoxie So Real there we go. This is sort of day. I'm making cow puns
Starting point is 00:20:49 I'm I was just out my mind was like Ben. This is your moment make your I have it every day, but not today! Meshers, here comes one right now. Raising kids can be one of the greatest rewards of a parent's life. But come on, someday, parenting is unbearable. I love my kid, but is a new parenting podcast from Wondry that shares a refreshingly honest and insightful take on parenting.
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Starting point is 00:21:57 So if you like to laugh with us as we talk about the hardest job in the world, listen to, I love my kid, but wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. So PR person comes up to Erica and you know it's a PR person because they talk like this. I record! And she's like, I record! Oh my god, love your plastic hair. It's great. Hey, is that a brownie batter with a, with a braid? It is. It is. It is.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Brownie batter core actually. It's for the sea where the waffle cone ends and the hair begins. So listen, this was just between me and Cherry Garcia. Okay. What about Kathy Homes behavior of the nightclub? And then we see we. We've had Chuck and monkey. We see radar online headline.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Of course, it's radar online, which of course it is. Kathy Hilton has meltdown during a spin trip, got into shouting match with nightclub employee over Michael Jackson. got into shouting match with Nightclub employee over Michael Jackson. Yeah, and Erica's like, a lot of articles have served about Kathy's behavior at the nightclub. And I don't know how they got this level of detail, but I clearly am generally unfused about it because Lisa Vanderbump isn't on the cast anymore, so we'll just keep on going with the scene.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Right, here's the story of leaking the reader online again. Someone that Rina hates and is trying to get rid of, gee, I wonder who could have done it. It's fucking Rina. This is like the worst mystery. I feel like the only person at dinner theater who has figured out the murder and you still have to make it through the fucking chicken cordon blue. Which I don't even like. Also, I have to point out that Erica didn't say, I don't know how they got this level of detail. She said, I don't know how they got this level of detail.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Oh, no. Thank you for getting the proper impassus on that. I had, so because Erica's very worldly. Yeah, because Erica tells this reporter, she goes, well, everything's not honky, and then it cuts to Erica's publicist, just going like He's like nailed it. I wrote that. I told you I wrote that
Starting point is 00:24:11 He's like you like five minutes earlier in the car. Okay, Erica They're gonna ask you about this and what you say is everything's hunky Dory no Not hunky Dory everything is not a door. No, not hunky Dory. You're not a hunk Come on Erica not Erica. Not honkydory. You can do this. Don't worry, person. I got it. Everything is not New York super-flug- H-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h So then uh Rana comes in just of course like Rana always comes in Yeah pretty mess here pretty mess here yeah hello pretty mess here hello I'm sad very very sad this is PTSD Hope you hope you can see the difference Yeah, yeah, well this is this is the form of my PTSD now, which is when you've seen something so terrible you can't help but say
Starting point is 00:25:15 Poor dumb upstairs he's like what is going on so he knows He knows it's true. So anyway, uhick is like, so I decided for my hair party. I was like, let's do something casual. Okay, so it's like, come by, get some hair, maybe talk about Kathy, or having a meltdown and I'll spend in and yelling at the coach check and making everyone mad and saying something offensive to a wine bottle. That's what I'm just saying. Like that's something you could talk about if you want to do. Yeah, I just wanted to be casual. That's why there's a newspaper stand in here. Hey, laddie, let me try to move your pulse from the wind in my eye.
Starting point is 00:25:58 So she's invited. By the way, I'm surprised when it did not walk in with like a 10 gallon, like a cowboy hat with a camera Like in the middle of it. No, that's information. This party is not leaking to anyone. Not at all. No So she's told the ladies to invite all of their stylists I think like two dead so that was good and Rena's like, yeah, am I told Scott? You've got work to do I mean you're not Joey Maloof So we're just Joey Maloof no one knows where Joey Maloof is no one was me here
Starting point is 00:26:34 Suddenly like I killed that motherfucker Right that motherfucker damn brand new car the first day I got it Anyway, so anyway, so then people now we have people just arriving we have shrieb. Hey ladies, how are you? And then the sun's there and everything. Hey, you know what you wills above it. You rose above by petty ass out I appreciate it. No problem you mother fucker can't wait to get some hair that I'll never use. She's like I want Erica to know I want her to be successful I want her to be all of this I want her
Starting point is 00:27:15 to show the world that you can do right get yourself together and rebuild so by showing it hopefully I'm telling her, do it. Do it. I want, listen, I want her to get her laugh to get it. I want her to rebuild. I mean, preferably that would involve fixing vending machines down in Georgia, but if she wants to sell hair on a sidewalk, that works too. So the girls show up and Chris, they're all picking wigs at and Crystal wants anime, anything anime and Heather from Salt Lake City is sitting at home like C,
Starting point is 00:27:47 was an offensive, was an offensive at all. I forgot about that. So yeah, so then Doreet shows up so that we got a big Rina. DEREET! And then Diana, and they're all just like trying on hair and the stylists are touching them up They're like it's like their dream party because they're like they're actively being primped while they're socializing And they start talking about how their husband's like their hair and when it's like yeah, I'm wearing a wig
Starting point is 00:28:17 Right now it's a wig because when Harry's around we do regular Rina. He likes regular Rina, jeans, a T-shirt, and a wig. That's what he likes. And Crystal's like, well Rob likes the glam because I'm like just so basic all the time. Everyone's like, what was that? And then PK, like no one like paid attention to Crystal's joke. And then Doreet tells us that PK likes doing makeup, which then sets up to read for her big cat skills moment. Yeah. PK says he locks me in heels and makeup to do the dishes, and I said I'd give anything to see PK doing anything. EVA! Didn't don't shh. Did it dance? Shh. Oh, and then a, please.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Then a totally impromptu off the cuff call from Elton John. Yeah. Oh, you think Elton John totally regrets this. Do you think that Beverly Hills fans, like a fuck off Elton John, would a Diana do for you? Because we all know those rumors about Diana and for Diana to be like, oh, I have so many stories about Elton
Starting point is 00:29:29 and he says it's been the bad, I can't share them. I'm like, were they on a yacht? Yeah, we'll have all the stories about David Furnace that we eat. I like that she's like all these stories that I can't share. I don't think anyone wants to hear about Elton John's stories in his 70s. Yeah, sex, sex, I don't think like she's like, she's like, I can't say them. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:29:52 oh, we'll be the one to hear them either way. Yeah, thank you for that. So let's hear one anyway. She's like, I was in London at China shop because I love buying China. And Elton and his housebend were there one day and I just walked in for a coat and flip-flops looking crazy. And they were like, who is that real love born in one second? Yes, you know, I wish I could go back to that China shop, but unfortunately I sent it season deceased. So Elton John is like, by the way, I just want to say thank you for the thing
Starting point is 00:30:32 that you did that one time. I just remembered it. So I'm calling you to say thank you for that. And he's like, and we'll celebrate and just we'll celebrate you on Oscar night at some point. Shall we not? Right? Just like what, I can't read this. David, could you pass me my glass as I can't read the rest of the script?
Starting point is 00:30:51 So then, Doreen and Rena are talking, oh, then Doreen's complimenting her clothes, of course. She's like, oh, this is right up, Mialle, what does this so for? I'm just like, yeah, this is time for it, it's time for it, denim, but you can't get anywhere. But you can rent it. Ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:31:09 You can rent anything to me. And to read so you can get it like, wrinkles. And you can make it back and go, it's sack. So she's like, well, how are you doing? Angel girl. I've been speaking to you.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Chris struck him down and said, you lift the party. And I said, there's no way we're in the lift with that saying, goodbye plants, goodbye floor, goodbye ceiling. Well, I'll admit, it's not something I normally do, but in that moment, I said, I just got to go. I have PTSD. Luckily, I've been in a lot of therapies, chocolate therapy specifically just from...
Starting point is 00:31:48 If you ever had a pint of it, it's delicious. Delicious. At that moment, at that moment, all I could hear in my head, is Robin Williams coming over the lab speakers at the base, and yelling, good morning, Vietnam! And I curled into a little ball, and I rocked back and forth. I said, come back to me, Robin with Kim's the man from Doken Mindy From food food will and hunting
Starting point is 00:32:16 PTSD, PTSD, just go with it. You know, I've always loved Kathy Hilton Which I've also said about Denise Richards Lisa Vanderbumpump, Eden Sessoon, and Dolly Parton. I still love Dolly Parton, though. I haven't met her, but I just know we'd be friends. So, Doreet's like, gee, well, Kathy called me and I spoke with her and Kathy remembers everything and is not proud of her behavior. At all!
Starting point is 00:32:43 This is, let me emphasize that. At all. So this is far more about Kathy and Coil than it is about anyone else. Period. At all. Well, then she should come and say that to me. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:33:01 Because you were so traumatized that you said nothing at the moment. You just waited until much later to make this into a bigger deal. So to read psych, well, I don't know what happened between you and she goes she tried to silence me. Silence me. She tried to silence me. Hold on, don't worry. I'm gonna prove This is the silencing me text. Please do not say anything we discussed Otherwise it will make a huge scene that everyone gets dragged into no boy no spells wrong I'm like that's not a threat. That's a threat Boot it was it didn't even mean to be boy no it meant to be Bu
Starting point is 00:33:43 A no mean to be boy no it meant to be be you a no sure that's a threat in some language. She put an a she put an a in bueno as in you get an a plus if you stay silent that's a threat. That's a threat. She goes yeah that was a failed threat and you know how I do with that sort
Starting point is 00:33:58 of thing to read you know how I do. And then she continues she's like can we talk about how that's a% not available through it? Right? I don't think it's not. It's not going to be. It's someone saying, it's not just like not talk about,
Starting point is 00:34:10 like she's like, I blew up on my sister. Could please not talk about this. Otherwise, it's gonna become a whole thing. It's gonna be much larger than it is. Let me just, like, let me just handle this with my sister. And again, because I know that people are on sides, it's a housewife show we're all on our sides. Okay, I get it.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Again, I have to say, bring her down. Bring Kathy Hilton down. I'm waiting. I've got the popcorn. I'm excited to turn. Anyone, bring it on. I'm here for it. This is not it.
Starting point is 00:34:36 This is bullshit. So Rinna's like, this please, it goes further than you would want to know. Silence is golden. I am staying silent. And then she put hearts. Hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt. She threatened to give me heart attack. Or she threatened to steal my heart. She's threatening to stab me in the heart and my children because there
Starting point is 00:34:57 are as many hearts as there are children and might know there's too many hearts. Okay, plus Harry, she tried, no, there's another one. Plus the sauce, she's gonna murder me, Harry, the children, and the sauce. I mean, and I think now we all understand why the Golden Globes weren't on NBC this year. She said to silence them, silence is golden. Golden Globes, obviously. Silence is golden, threatening me, just like my first grade teacher. That's the first place I heard that, that bitch tried to ruin my life that day
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yeah, it's basically again. It's happy saying like our issues go deep like when she says please it goes further than you want to know our issues are deep and complicated Please Like just stay out of it. That's what she was saying. And Rina, is that you get like a full on like bricks and a like a window, right? It's worse in her head. And you get it. I mean, she is a dream. Yes, a dream.
Starting point is 00:35:53 This episode should just be called Try It. You tried it because this is a very hard try. And so we see a clip, well, Doreet saying, well, I care about Kathy and I told her, the worst thing you could do is not face people because it makes it worse. And then you go on Instagram, and then we see Kathy on Instagram,
Starting point is 00:36:14 live being interviewed by a guy. And she's like, and then I hear that I'm screaming and throwing things that is not me. And I do not like to hear things like that. And Rinne says, yeah, as she went there and she vies, those are lies.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Those are lies like lies. I was in the house with her and she said she was alone. You guys left her alone the next morning. Well, and also in the house, you went and locked yourself in your room. So she was just, she was alone. Alone. In the house, because you're in your room locked,
Starting point is 00:36:46 that's a same as being left alone. But how was there? What alive? What a threat. Can't. So also I thought it was funny that we see the name of the restaurant that they're at, and it's called Tattle. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Let us spell T-A-T-E-L, but you gotta love this show. They really know where to film. Yeah. But Doreet's saying like, but that's strange because on the phone, she took 1,000% ownership just like PK with a box of bomb bonds. So then she's like, what the only person who can answer for it
Starting point is 00:37:21 is Kathy. Certainly is, okay, let's sit down and tell everyone else and get them to pile on okay let's do that so they go over to the girls and they're like what's going on over there friends and Rin is like well you know what that's that's my that's my PTSD let's say um do we tell everybody to read you tell them. And Crystal's like, can I get a margarita skinny with those? Shut up, shut up, Crystal. That was not the time. All right, Doreet, go ahead, Doreet.
Starting point is 00:37:53 This is why you lose 14 friends. You're talking during the gossip session. So Doreet's like, well, last time I saw Lisa, was that Crystal? You're beautiful if overwrought and kind of boring party, celebrating the great cats, which we've already done on this show already, so that's kind of embarrassing for you. In a basement. Remember it was in a basement, I've never felt such debatement. It was downstairs from a normal house, where people go to hide when this bad weather So that was interesting. Oh, and by the way all our people in Florida. We hope you're safe and sound
Starting point is 00:38:30 So yeah, got a basement party. I meant to say that actually the top I wasn't I meant to actually say at the top like we want all yeah Everybody You know stay safe and you know we'll see soon. And just one steady fuck you, Ian. Fuck off Ian. What's fuckering? What the fuck? Fuck her.
Starting point is 00:38:53 But anyway, so Doreet is like, now that Rina has set up to read to tell the story, Rina is now being like the color commentary sidekick. So, Rina's chiming in with adjectives because when Doreet's like, wait, last time I saw everyone, that you a beautiful potter was like beautiful so
Starting point is 00:39:09 Fun so fun at least the first 10 minutes of it were before I left so So good. I'm so sorry so sorry left early. What a fun fun party. Go Eddry Well, I think that that moment You know she was feeling a lot of things after ESPEN, because Kathy was not herself that night. Not herself. No, she wanted the DJ. DJ's.
Starting point is 00:39:34 To play a song. A musical song with notes. No, it's lots of music. Billie Jean. Shrunk. Very said it. I don't care who knows. The song was Billie Jean.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I don't care who knows the song with Billie Jean. I don't care who knows it. And she's like, And the DJ refuse? I mean, off with his head. How do you not play Billie Jean? And they're like, yeah. And Rimm is like,
Starting point is 00:39:55 I love Billie Jean. I love Billie Jean. I knew a person named Billie Jean. I loved her too. I loved her to the actual Billie Jean. Let me tell you something. I love Billie Jean. I mean, we didn't start the fire, Alan town.
Starting point is 00:40:07 I mean, the list goes on and on. Am I right, Ripper dreams? God, who doesn't love Billie Jean? And Crystal's like, um, do these women not understand that requesting a Michael Jackson song in this day and age could be a little problematic? No, but what am I? Just some millennial. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:27 You know what? I support Crystal, subtly reminding everyone that she's the younger one of the group. Like, why not? At this point, like, why do I hit them where it hurts? So, Serena's like, well, somebody told Kathy To go back to LA and there he goes, but she told me it was the manager who said go back to LA not the DJ And I told the key thief this is not piss and over and Erica's like oh yeah She bought him off for 200 bucks, which is a low-press to buy someone off my buy him off And so because she's making it sound like
Starting point is 00:41:05 Kathy bought him off to you. No, no, no. It wasn't that Kathy's, Kathy didn't buy anyone off. That was right. But she's making it sound like that. That's what I'm saying. Well, she bought him off for 200 bucks, which is a little bit of crap. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, basically because she points to Diana. Basically what they're saying is Kathy wants to play a song. They wouldn't play the song for her.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And then Erica nods to Diana goes, well, she paid him off for $200. The idea was that if Kathy wants to hear that song, she should have given $200. The DJ was $200. By the way, ridiculous. That's nuts. Commissions.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Here comes one right now. That's... As Ayada then adds her acting like she's like a crime lord. She's like, yeah, you know, like she should know how to play the game better than me. Okay, like she was born into the game. I only learned it later that you paid $200 to ask for a tick-tax. Yeah, and then Erica's like, oh oh, she went born into that game. She buried into that game. Well, we are married in June time. I guess, I guess good for her.
Starting point is 00:42:12 She's already been into a game that's actually still paying off. So I guess she's, she's the winner here. Am I right? So then Diana's like, you know, people at clubs, they don't really care who you are. Like where you came from, they don clubs, they don't really care who you are, like where you came from, they don't want to make money and the way the game works is you tip and you tip your way to the best table
Starting point is 00:42:31 and the best drinks and if, you know, if I know the game, Kathy should know the game. I'm like, yeah, but also these people working the clubs should also know the game that it's Kathy Hilton. Like, there's that game too. So Sheree say, well, but for her people,
Starting point is 00:42:48 just she's not used to people disrespecting her. Because when I came to the hat shop, Kathy was on the sidewalk and she was agitated. That was that same day. And Rin is like, oh, so it started at the hat shop. Oh, the hat shop. Oh, it started at that. As you dumbass, it started at the freaking hot shop. Oh, the hot shop. Oh, it started at that.
Starting point is 00:43:05 As you dumbass, it started at the freaking hot shop. Remember when you did something incredibly passive aggressive? And then she had a reaction to that. Yeah, it did start there. Know how that can, like that can ruin someone's day. Well, the hot shop. Hmm, the hot shop. Oh, she's like, yeah, she was shaking on the sidewalk
Starting point is 00:43:26 And we're like, no No That's the game So then, Erica's like, yeah, she was shaking at the club No, shaking at that club What did she make up on A's and no one thanked her for it? Why would she be shaking that? That is crazy
Starting point is 00:43:52 So she says Shari telling me that she saw Kathy outside really mad that gives me an understanding that it started earlier in the day Oh, and it makes me think that ordering the Kardashian to Kila is what really set her off Congrats, because she's so fucking jealous of the Kardashians. Oh, no I can jealous of the Kardashians. Oh, no. That was not the call. Why? That was not why. You purposely did that to piss her off and then say that. Come on.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Yeah. This is just so shameless. You were undermining her moment to promote her to Kila on television, you fool. And then on top of that, and she wasn't even really mad as much of Rina as she was at Kyle, because Kyle didn't support her. Oh my goodness. Why do I have to say this thing to Rina? So Rina's like, well, she wasn't only dissing me, you know, it was bad. She really feels about certain things and people and blood. And the reads like, what's there anything other than Kyle that she's been should you go
Starting point is 00:44:46 and because I mean really goes, I'm not going to go any further, right? I can't go any further. I can't I don't want to go there. I mean it was, it was dark. It was dark and since I said it was dark, we can just, we can just let it be. Technically, really did not say it was dark, but the implication is the exact same as what I just wanna be. I'm not. You're just gonna be. You're just gonna be. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:45:15 I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:45:23 I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. And she tells us what she said about to read Is that she's a stupid you just a idiot. I was like, okay. I'm waiting for I'm waiting for some untruth here Haven't we all said that at some point? I know like hello You are all alpha women when you have a meltdown you raise the earth like that's that's like that she's doing her job Okay, like if Kathy Elden Goes to the supermarket to buy a tomato and they're out of tomatoes that gives her the right to say you know what? Fuck this store. Fuck this tomato. Fuck Kyle And you know what? Fuck Dary to well, we're at it and fuck Ridd and she doesn't do anything
Starting point is 00:45:59 And she would even do a year in Garsell's cool, but Erica you're a criminal and you know what I hit cars Why do we even have cars? We should go to meet a lot of helicopters for all the people You like it? That's how a rant works. You just build on it. You're yes-ending yourself Yeah, so Surrey asks if she literally said everyone's name and we're gonna say it was a barrage It was a barrage. It was like why do I have to be around these fucking pants? I don't like them. Why do I have to be with them? They need to go away. They're idiots. I have to do everything around here And this is my show by the way. I have big deals over at NBC and I will fucking ruin Kyle I mean I believe it. I believe that I believe that part a hundred percent
Starting point is 00:46:41 So right now's like let me put it this way me and Garsell came up better than anyone else Okay, and must she actually thought Garsell was Kyle in that moment Then this should really be all told to Garsell you know what I'm not really sure So the crystal crystal tells us that she spoke to Kathy and Kathy said like that she lost her temper and that she was really just upset at her sister. And but she said nothing to Crystal about having an epic meltdown. So the person was like, well, hey, do you believe Kathy arena? And then Crystal goes, right now, I believe Kathy and then she gives that little smirk, like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Which should be annoying, but I really enjoyed it at that moment. Yeah, like she knows that she's the only one who's gonna say this, but she does not care. So, uh, Vrenna's like, why isn't Kathy here? Why isn't she here? Because she knows what you're trying to do, Vrenna. I mean, the remit seriously, you gather all you, well, you didn't gather them, but you gather them all to sit down and tell them all of this music about, capping those, what you're fucking up to, okay? And so Eric is like, I'm sorry. So Rina is Rina wanting Kathy to come to Erica's event to help support the brand. She's shamelessly shilling on a national television.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Is that what Rina wants to do? Right. So Erica's like, well, God, sell it. famously shilling on a national television is that what Rina wants to do right? So Erica's like well, Garsal and takes me a Garsal takes me is that I have a job to do Why and Rina's like right right? That's what you do to get the exact shoot To get the exact Dead got the exact shoot on threat because she takes me a threat Might as well murdered me with Siri. Okay. Might as well set Siri over with the butcher knife.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Okay. Okay. By the way, when they said that Garcell has a thing, has a job to do, then they got to like footage of like, really that day. Garcell walking through a hallway, like a Aaron Sorkin movie, like, all right. Well, so we're shooting in like five minutes. And we're gonna hear my notes. I was like, why are we watching Garsell walking down a hallway, saying things?
Starting point is 00:48:50 And then later on when I realized that Garsell wasn't in the episode, I was like, oh, there's probably, she's probably, Bravo's probably contractually obligated to include Garsell in every episode. They just had to go in any random B-roll footage they had of her. Yeah. Like, I get this much for episode and they're like, well, we only pay for episodes that you air in and she's like, then I will be airing on all of these episodes.
Starting point is 00:49:11 I'm like, okay, so then we get a shot of her walking them all. And she's wearing one of those, you know, those like bank teller always call them the bank teller mask because it looks like the check cashing place, you know, like see through glass mask or whatever. But she's not even wearing it. It's just down on her neck. So it's like a big thing coming up, like a movie from the 1800s.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Yeah, it's an old collar. She's like, where is Kathy? Where is she? Well, she said she was coming, but where is she? Where is Kathy? Where is she? Where? So, it grills like, well, I spoke to her and she said that she's planning on coming and um, and apologizing. She said that for sure. And when it goes, well, I will tell you one thing. I have sent her blessings and prayers through my heart. I was like, I have to admit, I was laughing.
Starting point is 00:50:06 I was like, well, this is as much as Rinna is driving me crazy this season. I do love when Rinna gets so mad. Like this is the Rinna Leon Lockin School of just over Rod Melodrama. And I always love when that, when we get that, that side of the world. I've said that, blood sings.
Starting point is 00:50:23 And prayers, you might hear it. Meditatement that was so, so difficult. As I meditated, I did it, I did it. And Erica goes, you let's go. I love, just like yeah. Yeah. And then it cuts to set my, what? The fuck do you people talking about?
Starting point is 00:50:40 It's like, this is ridiculous. I know. Yeah, it's just saying prayers. So now we go to Kyle's house. And she's pouring coffee. She's like cry pouring. She's like sniffling. Like, I'm so sad I have to pour this coffee into my ruffler and coffee cups.
Starting point is 00:50:58 And everything we hate about Kyle except the hat. All we need is a hat with some bangs taped on the front to make this an eye-hate Kyle scene. It's her stupid bear mugs and her stupid I love Aspen sweater. It's drawing too hard and making herself the victim, you know? Yeah. So Kathy comes over in a rain drover and she's wearing the peace t-shirt, which is hilarious, and Kyle's like staring hard. And then Kathy stops at her flowers at Kyle's flowers in front of the house and pulls a bunch of them out. And so Kyle's like staring hard. And then Kathy stops at her flowers, at Kyle's flowers in front of the house and pulls a bunch of them out. And so Kyle's like,
Starting point is 00:51:29 I'm in the leathery glass right now. I set the door, I set the god, it's the door. So she answers the door and she's like, Oh, I see you, my shirt on. Ha, ha, ha, ha. And Kathy does this, how do you, ma'am?
Starting point is 00:51:43 These flowers are for you. I just came in on the pond of Rosa and all the way from Cartwright City And they played the same song on the boat over and over again. It went Gotta be careful when you go to Cartwright City. You really do. So Kyle's like, she's like, well, this is the first time I'm seeing Kathy since Aspen and like, we've changed a couple of texts while I was away, mainly just like, I'm sorry, Kathy, I can't receive your text, I'm on set filming Halloween ends, a major franchise starring icon, Jamie Lee Curtis. And basically that was the end of it. But we haven't had a real conversation about what really happened.
Starting point is 00:52:34 So Kathy's like, do you like my cowboy boots? She's like, um, don't you just booze Kathy? You wouldn't write a horse in those. Those are like pilgrims shoes. And she's like, pilgrims? Well, I wore these because I want to make peace. Catboys aren't the ones trying to make peace. I don't know if you know anything about history,
Starting point is 00:52:48 but wrong shoes, wrong. Either way, wrong shoe choice. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So it's like Kyle is like, you know, it sounds so easy on paper. She's doing a lot of, that thing where like, she keeps doing this with her head.
Starting point is 00:53:05 This is for people on video. She like sort of juts her head forward in her confessionals, which is, it sounds so easy. Like she's like a little head typewriter, you know? She's like, when twitching a little. She's like, it sounds so easy on paper. Just sit down and talk about it. But as history goes with us, it hasn't really worked. And then we got a flashback of like,
Starting point is 00:53:26 there are completely dysfunctional relationship over the past 10 years. Mainly Kyle being a bad-sister to Kathy, more or less. Well, the 2011, well, you know, I've been approached to create her own company. I'm just like, but that's my sister and brother-in-law. I don't wanna see them upset. And then Kyle being uninvited to the wedding,
Starting point is 00:53:45 and then American woman, and then still not speaking in 2018 and 2021, old estranged footage and Cathy crying. We've lost a lot of time. I love showing that clip. And Kyle's like, when these things have happened in the past, it affects me tremendously. And nothing can get my anxiety going worse than having that conflict with my family and bees. And bees, bees do that to me also. And flying. I mean, that storyline might come back soon,
Starting point is 00:54:17 but like very, very afraid. Plains, plain, plain, I had free, um, would they say no hats allowed? Very lots of anxiety because hats are like my, um, I was, you know, my mom liked hats. I like hats. It's my personality. So that's, that's another thing for me too. So Kathy's like, uh, to like my bracelet, you're looking at them. Just take them. Take them. No, Kathy, I'm not going to take your braze. Take them. I have more. Just take them. No, okay. I'll take two. No, take them all. I'm hot anyway. My wrist is hot. Getting overheated with those bracelets. So, I was like, Kathy, what happened? And so Kathy's
Starting point is 00:54:54 like, what I want to say is that I'm here to apologize to you because I start ranting and venting my feelings. And I didn't think that they would get back to you. Like, basically, I dress up, but I'm not dressed up up there. You know what I'm saying? And I was like, for me personally, I was like, is that a metaphor of like, when she set up there, I thought was something about like her brain.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Like sometimes I get dressed all pretty, but on the inside I'm still scrambled. But she actually, sounds like what she was saying was how in Hollywood, she can be really glamorous, but an aspen she likes to be super chill with her fashions, and she's sort of alluding to the fact that like Kyle, you were making fun of me a lot that weekend, right? Right, like they were making fun of how she dressed and stuff, and so she's, we see the
Starting point is 00:55:40 slipper clip of like, are these boots okay then, Kyle? What about these slippers and Kyle like come on. God your boots are wrong your slippers are stupid. And she's like and I got it a little bit. It's funny, but I'm just like starting to feel a little insecure Kyle. And Kyle's like well why am I being put in this position where I have to apologize? Because you know how often you do that to me? I mean no one takes a jump further than you.
Starting point is 00:56:01 And then we see a flashback of Kathy hiding a purse for Kyle. Like, well, the difference is one is hiding a purse and one is belittling someone in front of other people, right? And that's what you can hide. And that's what you can hide. And that's what you can hide. And that's what you can hide at them constantly, you know? Yeah, hiding a purse has a completely different kind of joke.
Starting point is 00:56:20 And Kyle's jokes are so rooted in jealousy and humiliation that like it's insane right now, Madison, that she can't see the difference. Yeah, so Kyle's like, well, but that night you were in a mood and you were upset and you were screaming at me in front of everybody. And that's not the first time you've done it. It's just the first time you've done it with other people watching and it really hurt me and it really embarrassed me. Well, maybe it really hurt and embarrassed her that you were just like, find with your friends laughing whenever she tried to promote her thing and saying like, openly, no, no, when she was trying to get them to drink tequila.
Starting point is 00:56:59 And then yelling, I'll try that eight, eight, eight, eight, Kendall Jenner's tequila. But it's not Klaus fault because, because Klaus is always the victim. Fucking always the victim. She brings them on here and sets them up and then goes, You're an alcoholic, you're a goddamn alcoholic. After chasing them around the hotel when they were trying to leave to force them to film so you can get that alcoholic shit in right before the season ended. You suck, you're a fucking terrible person.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Now this does not mean Kathy Hiltness, not a terrible person, and that she doesn't yell at you all the time. But for her to sit there and say, I apologize, and you'd be like, well, I'm not apologizing, your jokes are mean and mine are not even jokes, and they didn't even hurt you at all. You said.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Yeah, that was a thing, like Kathy led with an apology, but she was also saying, like, but by the way, I was hurt and Kathy, and the fact thing like for like Kathy lead with an apology, but she was also saying like but by the way I was hurt and Kathy and that the fight that Kyle is like resistant to acknowledging that is so mean So Kathy's like well Kyle. I'm very sorry But I'm mostly sorry for what you said back at the house. Yeah She said but why didn't you say that stuff Kathy and Kathy's crying and it's not a housewives crime I mean unless she can really pull those tears like she's really crying and she's like well I was over angry. I was overtired. I was angry. I was stupid. I had two glasses of wine
Starting point is 00:58:14 It was yeah, I mean, I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'm sorry, and maybe some of that that should he eight one eight to Kila I was forced to drink maybe really messed with my brain. You know, that's what happens I have cheap stuff jeeps stuff, you know she's like well, I appreciate that and you know I I don't feel like I have support for my sister's I mean apart. I don't even know for a very long time and like when I hear you talk like that I feel like you hate me or something and it makes me feel so bad. I mean how could you say that thing? She starts that whole Kyle thing and Kathy goes Kyle
Starting point is 00:58:43 Kyle cuz she knows Kyle and Kyle's gonna start getting hysterical now because she has the upper hand, you know Yeah, they basically do like a musical moment where Kyle goes how would you say those things Kyle? How could you say those things Kyle? Kyle literally was a really good thing to do like we're doing right now and she's like um to do like we're doing right now and she's like um, God drops her tears immediately and she's just, I am working my, Assof, Kathy, my Assof and she's like, I know, but you do have time to make time, you need to make time for your family, Kyle.
Starting point is 00:59:17 And Kyle's like, I do make time for my family, I make time for my husband and my children and I'm trying to balance everything, okay? I don't even have time for my dogs Which is why they're basically wild animals that terrorize any neighborhood we're in. Okay, I got that I got that and if someone hurts me I have to keep them at arm's length to protect myself blood Included and so Kathy's like well
Starting point is 00:59:41 If we could have direct communication, that would be great. I mean, it is hard to get you on the phone. I mean, it is impossible. I mean, I feel like a pest. And God's like, well, you only call me to rant. And meanwhile, meanwhile, Kathy Hilton has kind of blocked on her phone. We all know this because we've seen the phone. I know. There's a fact that I've talked to a police officer.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Where are my calls blocked? It's like, I don't even know how to undo it. Darlene It was the one who helped her is the woman did it to me. She blocked you. So lady did it. So I was like yeah, you only call me to rant and she tells us Sometimes Kathy's call will be preceded by a text that says important must talk and my body goes numb thinking about what she's going to talk about. I my body goes numb because when she says that I think oh my god, Steven Spielberg wants
Starting point is 01:00:32 to hire me. I'm just like so excited and then it's never that. So Kyle says, you know, you don't ever say, how are you? It's not like how's the movie going? What's it like being part of a major iconic franchise? How is Jamie Lee Curtis a superstar? I'm also a friend of yours. You don't ask me those questions Kathy And she's like I just don't want to hear all the time about how pissed you are something Kathy's like I'm proud of you Kyle. Listen, you're a great wife a great mother
Starting point is 01:01:01 You like hats a great mother. She like hats. You copied the checker board floor right from my house. That's something you did right. I mean, you do a lot of things right. So by the way, the key there, by the way, is that Kyle admits to us that like she sometimes avoids Kathy's call because she doesn't want to listen to the rants, which I totally get. But then she can't also be upset when Kathy says it's sometimes hard to get a whole to view and then she acts like Kathy's crazy when she admits that she essentially doesn't take Kathy's calls because they're always kind of crazy calls. Right. So, cows like blood would be nice to hear that. She has some coil. She feels but it wouldn't get me. It would. She's like, okay, you're thoughtful, you're talented, you do it all.
Starting point is 01:01:45 And I'm very proud of you. Mom would be very proud of you. We should do this over a shot of Cossado's soul to kill. No, Kathy, we're not even good to kill right now. Come here, come here, your little raggum up and... Kathy, that's a trigger word for me. Okay, come here. Mom would be proud. I'm proud. Everyone's proud here mom would be proud I'm proud everyone's proud mom would be proud
Starting point is 01:02:09 I'll just say this again and instead of hugging she I am so proud of you I am so proud of the work I assume you're doing but I don't know for sure because you don't answer the phone to tell me about it I am so proud so proud of everything you've done that I've never actually seen on television or in films, but I'm sure that they exist because you tell me so on text. I am so proud when I go on to IMDB to look at your credits and I look at those movies and I scroll scroll scroll scroll scroll scroll scroll and there's your name finally I am so proud of you. By the way who is DB? Who is someone saying I'm DB?
Starting point is 01:02:53 Who is DB? Is that DB Swini? So she talks about when you lose your parents you feel like you lose your cheer leaders and so she needs her big sister know, but this stuff is nice to hear, but it also contradicts what she said in Aspen. So what are you supposed to believe? Kyle, she can love you and be proud of you. And also think you're an F and B who doesn't appreciate anything she's done for you in life.
Starting point is 01:03:19 You know, and that you used her husband to get to the top and then dump them and stole clients on your way out. And they wrote a life story that you really had no permission get to the top and then dump them and stole clients on your way out. And they wrote a life story that you really had no permission to write, et cetera, et cetera. She can still love you and you can still be an asshole. You know what I mean? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:03:33 I mean, I just must be used to it. I'm sorry, but what I just said, I believe Kyle had the right to write American story because that's not only her life story, but just to make it clear. I agree, too. And I think that some of Kyle's complaints here are actually very valid, but it's like,
Starting point is 01:03:49 you all just go see, like go to one therapy session and you can learn how to communicate with each other a little bit better because clearly, like, Kathy gets on the phone and she just rants and Kyle's not getting the coddling that she needs, so she ignores Kathy and then Kathy's not getting the vent that she needs. And then they hate each other.
Starting point is 01:04:07 And it's like, guys have to just like, just give each other what you both need and like, move on with yourself with yourself. Like this is ridiculous. Yeah. So, Kyle's like, well, what about the other women that weren't that were there? Did you apologize to them? And she's like, oh, yeah, I talked to everybody. Everybody.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Well, I didn't, I didn't talk to Eric law because I didn't speak to her. And then I tried Rina, but I haven't heard back from Rina. So, oh, really, how convenient. It's Eric and Rina, the only one's not answering at all. I know. And then Kyle goes, oh, well, Rina is coming here in a little bit. So I'm like, oh, see, Kyle is just if you were feeling a little bit. So I'm like, oh, see, Kyle is just, if you were feeling a shred of sympathy for Kyle, she literally is sabotaging her sister with Rina.
Starting point is 01:04:53 And she tried to make it sound like, oh, Rina's coming here too. This is a sick enough Rina on Kathy. It's a total classic how so I've set up. She's such an asshole. So she's like, well, I mean, if you want to talk to a person You can hang. Oh, here she is. Here she is By the way, and then you see Kyle too because Kyle plays both sides. She goes
Starting point is 01:05:14 I don't want to see a situation where you guys can't find peace because I mean they're trained assassins. Are you kidding me? Like? So these ladies are gonna kill you. Yeah, because now she's friends with Kathy, so she's like, watch out. Yeah. You're in this about to go unleash on you. So then we then go over to Son's house and we hear her say, see like a whole table scape of like China that's put out like nice plates and things and she's like, this is very fancy, not to make a mockery of pop-pots, but it's delicious. And she's putting pop-ups on China and everything.
Starting point is 01:05:45 It's kind of like hilariously high-low. And Erica is coming over. Suddenly I had invited Erica over when they were on the plane flying back from Aspen. And they're just going to like try to really put this to bed. You know, it sounds like it's like the Hatfield and the McCoys. You know, you just get sick of fattening and you just want to put your pistols down, you know, it's like the hat fields and the macaws, you know, you just get sick of fighting and you just want to put your pistols down, you know, and even though you know it means you're going to be invited to the McCoy concerts where they can McCoy's can't
Starting point is 01:06:12 really sing, you're sort of like, I think I'd rather put up with a listen to the macaws sing than fight with them any longer. So I'm Erica Thompson. So they're cheering on you. Looks so cute, like five-o-mo! And they laugh about the Popeyes being on China. And, um, certain's like, you want champagne or sweet tea?
Starting point is 01:06:34 Yes, this is a test. She's like, Thanks for the morning, I'll take a look to the hot drive. Did you leave me? Ben left me? Ben left me out for Christ's sake Ben. Ben! Uh, my own pretend, but the other side, me.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Uh, I'll walk with you to Bummer Without it, the world of the rabbley changes And I'll see you in the meantime forever and forever No, you're still all Faze, okay talk some more Now, it's all feds. It's all this buzz when you talk. I'm sorry. You can't hear me.
Starting point is 01:07:30 No, I can hear you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, America and the world. I realized my laptop wasn't plugged in, and that what I thought was the plug was actually a little cord and the world, I realized my laptop wasn't plugged in and that what I thought was the plug was actually a little cord to charge my phone. So I went to take out the cord
Starting point is 01:07:52 so that way I could put the power supply in and I accidentally took out the cord that's attached to my mic and my camera. So I detached myself and I didn't realize I didn't realize what how how would debilitating it would be but what I was gone. But Ronnie while I was gone, I cannot believe what I witnessed. Tathie Hilton came over here and she ranted and the thing she said about you, Ronnie, when my mic and my camera was down.
Starting point is 01:08:25 I can't even repeat them right now. She threatened me. She threatened me. It was just right. So it's all in this golden. Erica says that she's tired and as a group of women, no no she's tired and certain things you just have to let go of and certain things like yeah it's important Erica because it's a group of women and it's women with support each other
Starting point is 01:08:46 And the only thing I have to ask is you know, you're lashing out I don't want you to do that to people anymore Erica She's I like with you because here's what happened I started soft and I tried being heard and then it wasn't heard and then we're off to the races I was like okay, still no more fucking responsibility being taken by Erica. Like, you can smile, but just say you're sorry. Why is it always like sorry, but you guys didn't? Right.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Yeah, it always is. So, um, yeah, so they're just like exhausted and, um, and Sun's like, you know, I think I feel like I saw it in, in Aspen think I feel like I saw it in Aspen. I feel like I saw it happen all over again. And I think there's a word that's your trigger word. Do you know that word? America's like, yes I do. And it starts with the vagina. No, no, I was thinking, I was thinking a different V-V-Ramda. Now I was thinking, different a different V-W- Full Randa. Uh, no, uh, I was thinking, okay, it starts with- Mallory, Bert Mallory, that one was a real bitch if you ask me.
Starting point is 01:09:52 I never liked it. I don't disagree, but, okay, V-I. Victoria, Victoria Beckham, another, another horn. I don't like a one bit. Nope, another V. Barcelona, I love that shit, another another one I don't like a one bit No another beat I love that shit, but it does kind of clog up your coaching too much if you ever trying to use it Erica Erica bitch the word victim I just hate all the way words, let's be honest.
Starting point is 01:10:26 So basically she's like, I have a hard time with it because it implies I've done something bad. And something's like, well, what I would like maybe is just if you could add a little compassion, just in the way you say, like when you say, I don't give a fuck, maybe, is just if you could add a little, uh, compassion. Just just in the way you say, like when you say, I don't give a fuck, maybe say, I don't give a fuck, darling. I don't know. Something like that. Yeah. And I'm a rock of little compassion too.
Starting point is 01:10:57 No, Erica, you're doing it wrong. Like, they're literally setting you up for a forgiveness scene for the whole country. And you're like, fuck the up victims and I was wrong. Yeah. They're doing everything they can, Erica. Okay. So, it's like, and look at me here. I'm giving compassion. She's, I don't, but I would like some compassion to. It's crazy. As it sounds. She says, well, I appreciate the ability for us to be forward because at least right now, you're still saying the horrible things, but you're saying them in a more pleasant way.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Do you understand? That's all I need. That's all I need in America. Eric is like, well, how about we just have some of this sweet tea instead? So, so then they do this thing where they were sons like, you know, there's something between the two of us. I mean, we like each other in this very dysfunctional way, where we act like we don't like each other and also feel like we don't like each other. And objectively, we don't like each other, but we're going to say we like each other because the season's ending. And the producer said we have to put a bow on this.
Starting point is 01:11:58 And some's like, well, I've got to remind you of your wreaths. See, you playing nice. Then bring that, and I don't give a fuck about who knows about it, either. All right, Erica, well, thanks for coming over. Yes, you can't take that gallon jug of Arizona iced tea home by Erica. Bye. And Sun's like, she's like, I think we're gonna be all right, Erica. And just, I just imagine Andy Cohen poking his head in the door, like, until the reunion
Starting point is 01:12:23 when I destroy your friendship all over again, by ladies. So now, Rinna comes over to Kathy's and Kathy does her whole thing again like it's Westworld and she's like one of those NPC bots. She's like, well, hello, ma'am. I've come all the way down the Ponderosa from Cartwright City to apologize to you
Starting point is 01:12:47 Like oh my god, there's a fly on your eye. There's a fly on your eye. Why isn't it bothering you? Serena tells us Kathy's wearing the same t-shirt she wore an aspen when she had her Psychotic break. It's the same shirt. It's the same shirt. I'm like well You're wearing the same hair that you had in in Amsterdam when you had yours.otic break. It's the same shirt. It's the same shirt. I'm like, well, you're wearing the same hair that you had in Amsterdam. When you had yours, what else does that mean? Also the same hair that you had on days of your lives
Starting point is 01:13:13 when you had your 19 psychotic breaks on there. So, Kathy says that she tells her that she apologized to Kyle and that she said on-kind things and she feels bad that she unleashed to Rina and she goes, you know why? I invented, is that a leeward? Okay, Erica, what out of this? Erica throws a brick through the windshield.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Fuck you and your leeward's bitch! And I wasn't taking into consideration. They are also in a real sensitive spot right now, losing your mom, and I said things that I shouldn't have said and I'm so sorry Oh Where she just is thinking about it deeply and there's a big long pause and we're gonna go wow well You know I was really Really Chuck I've never seen anything like that nothing You know, I was really, really shocked. I've never seen anything like that, nothing, nothing.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Well, you've never seen me like that, that's for sure. You have never seen you like that. And you know what, do you need to take a really good look about what made you go to that place, Kathy Hilton? Do you have any idea? Any idea, Kathy? I don't really have a temper. Maybe it was Kyle mocking her, putting her in the basement on a one inch mattress, you mocking her tequila
Starting point is 01:14:30 when she was trying to plug it. And then you screaming about how you wanted to try another tequila the next day when you need she was trying to promote her own. What got you upset Kathy? What have you thought about it? Kyle literally threw out her slippers without her without like even permission, OK? So Kathy's like is like well I don't really have a temper and then he goes oh
Starting point is 01:14:49 what would you call this? Oh losing my temper. Yeah and you know I was just being cruel. You are being cruel. Yeah well I feel like if we're gonna really talk about this you're gonna have to take responsibility about the stuff you said, because you said stuff about everybody, not just Kyle, not just Kyle, big things, big fucking things, that you know, I don't want to say you need help, Kathy. But Kathy, I think you need some help. I think you need some help, Kathy. Well, I think I was a little frustrated and I think it was a lot of heavy stuff. And three days jam packed. Well, quote unquote jam was a little frustrated and I think it was a lot of heavy stuff and three days jam packed Well, quote unquote jam packed and I wouldn't call those real activities. I mean a hot shop. Let's be honest Sorry Kyle, but there's a lot to process. Okay. Oh
Starting point is 01:15:34 Is this you trying to shut me up? There she is. There she is threatening me bodyguards come in here. She's trying to shut me up Which by the way, there's no There's no evidence they kept it was trying to shut you up. There's no evidence that Kathy was trying to shut you up. She literally said, I was frustrated. I was going to do a lot. Okay, like there was a lot of process. Yeah. So Kathy's like, no, but I feel like you can be very
Starting point is 01:15:57 unkind too. I will say that. She's, oh, so we're gonna go there. We're gonna go there. Notting to the audience is not there. We're gonna go there. Notting to the audience is not there. We're gonna go there. Are we? Rina is like, by the way,
Starting point is 01:16:10 Rina is the queen of sing and I will go there and I will go there. So now when someone goes to wherever the metaphorical there is, oh, so now we're gonna go there. She literally just said, you wanna go there? Oh, so now we're gonna go there. So Kathy says, oh, yeah, but you don't want to hear that just not right
Starting point is 01:16:27 Not right now. It's not about me right now. It's about you. And then she tells us basically we're in the same position We were eight years ago and we see Amsterdam with Kim saying you came after me all last year All these are in the truth is the truth. Yeah Well, you can sit here and you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say,
Starting point is 01:16:48 you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say,
Starting point is 01:16:55 you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say,
Starting point is 01:17:02 you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, you're gonna say, when Rina says it isn't about me, it's like, it's not the issue is not about you, but the point is that Rina should be able to have some sort of empathy knowing that what it's like to say something cruel because you're going through something and then wanting to like recant it because that's what Rina's entire life on this show has been. So Kathy's like, well, I think that maybe like because I'm just like sensitive about things like over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
Starting point is 01:17:32 and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and It's really upsetting. So I'm really sorry. Like I don't behave this way and people have known me for 30 years I don't have a problem with this. I'm just like I'm going through a lot right now the classic. I'm going through a lot which is Kind of a what Rinn has been doing all season two by the way, right, but it's the classic victim shroud Right, it's like well, I'm not getting out of this. I'm gonna bring over the friend with cancer card Yeah, so Rinn is like why you looking at me like that
Starting point is 01:18:03 Kathy is sitting there crying, looking at you. Okay. Now I just said victim shroud, but still Even if you play the victim card, you're allowed to play it and people have to say like, okay, you know, whatever So Rinna is like, why are you looking at me like that? She's because you're looking at me like, oh, I have some big problem So yeah, I am looking at you. It's just I understand pain and she says well then you can have a little compassion and rid of us. Oh, I'm sorry Kathy, but you're not going to get away with it with me You can have your tears, but you're not going to get away with this You did what you did and you're not gonna just gaslight and manipulate me right now And if you want to apologize to me then let's talk about what you really did. And what you really said about people, and we'll go there if you want to.
Starting point is 01:18:47 We'll go there. Do you remember? Do you remember us at the house? Do you remember? She's like, yeah? Do you remember I locked myself in the bedroom? No, how the fuck would I know? You locked yourself in the bedroom. Which wasn't follower. It wasn't like, it wasn't like, sudden delivering a jacket in the middle of the night. But, um, by the way, there's nothing about saying, my friend has cancer and I'm going to a hard time
Starting point is 01:19:09 that is gaslighting. I just wanna point out there that is actually not gaslighting. Gaslighting is more of a hot, it's more of a pile of... This is gaslighting. No, this is gaslighting right here. Do you know why I locked myself in the bedroom? Because you were having a psychotic break. You were really out of control.
Starting point is 01:19:25 That's literally the definition of gaslight. You fucking dumb school. How have you not looked at the definition in all of these years that you've been using and making your gaslighting sound? You still don't know what it fucking is as you're doing it to her. Yeah, also it pains me that if Kathy says my friend is dying of cancer, I'm in a lot of pain right now
Starting point is 01:19:47 That Rina's response is you're not going to get away with that with me. Where is Erica? Erica has earrings that as far as we can tell are you know Need to be given back and turn into money to give to the victims because they were they were bought they were bought there were, those were bought illegally. And Rina does not say, listen, you're not gonna get away with this. Like you can have your tears. Like you can have your tantrum, Erica,
Starting point is 01:20:13 when you're confronted about this, but you have to like do the right thing. You know what, like the fact that she is grilling Kathy so hard on this point, and being like, I see the bullshit that, you're giving me a line of bullshit right like, I see the bullshit that you're giving me a line of bullshit right now. I'm not going to let you have this line of bullshit. When Erica gives the same, like, not the same line of bullshit, obviously, but that Erica
Starting point is 01:20:32 gives lines of bullshit as well to deflect away from like these things and Rena just not only accepts it, but usheres her out of the room. Well, my favorite thing is that she did say that, because I love that, and I hate when people on these shows, it's like you're being called on something, you're like, but, you know, sad thing, insert sad thing. I hate it, it makes me fucking crazy, and I like that Lisa Rina was like,
Starting point is 01:20:59 that's not gonna work, like I'm not gonna break down crying right now, because you're obviously using this to get out of a situation. I like that, but I wish that they would have that same energy for Rina whenever she does something shitty and then immediately starts crying. But my mom died. Like, yeah, but you can't use that to get out of shit.
Starting point is 01:21:14 It makes me crazy. So, well, I respect Rina for doing that. Same energy needs to be thrown back to Rina. Well, no, same energy needs to be applied to like someone like Erica. That's what I'm saying is that Rina really picks and chooses, which I guess makes sense because you know, you're not gonna nestly grill a close friend,
Starting point is 01:21:30 but it's just very frustrating that I feel like the things that Erica, you know, is doing are, I feel like way worse than this situation with Kathy and yet Rina is like, Pudges not trying to bring Erica down. I mean. Right, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying is that like,
Starting point is 01:21:46 Rina right now is grilling Kathy for basically being like a bad person. And for not being the person. And the thing is it's like, but have you looked at your friend? Here's the thing, bringing down, here's the problem that I've had with Rina over the years. She's bringing down people for no reason.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Like on these shows, it's like someone didn't invite you somewhere and then that starts festering, you know? It's like, oh, I forgive you, I forgive you. But it festers and over the seasons, you just, every little thing starts to piss you off about that person. And then finally, you're like, I'm bringing her down. Like that's it. Like it becomes a thing.
Starting point is 01:22:20 But with Rina, it comes out of nowhere. It's just like, I don't like her because she's popular. And it's all of the people that she's brought down. It's like, why? You brought down Kim because of sobriety reasons. What does that have to do with you? You know, you brought, you bring people down for all the, what advantage pump do to you?
Starting point is 01:22:37 Nothing. She made you say, much else in, really? So you brought it. It doesn't make any sense. So I think it's less fun for the audience because we don't even know what we're rooting for. Like, what did Kathy Hilton do to you brought it. It doesn't make any sense. So I think it's less fun for the audience because we don't even know what we're rooting for Like what did Kathy Hilton do to you? Well, maybe it's just popular with the audience Maybe they're the the inherent issue is the idea of bringing someone down like that
Starting point is 01:22:56 This is the show where people actively tear someone down every season as opposed to I the other shows there's fights There's fe, there's feuds, there's arguments, but there's never like the sense that I want to bring this person down like that. Right on this show, it's like, we're gonna get rid of you, eviscerate you. We are gonna try to ruin your life, get you off the show. Yeah, I mean, there's always like a level of like,
Starting point is 01:23:23 I'm an expose for what they said, but it really is about exposure and it's all under the guise of being open and honest and owning what you say. And if you don't say it right, you know, we are just gonna yell at you and destroy you. And it's like, I think just the inherent idea of like that like, that Rina is repeatedly bringing people down is not a fun quality.
Starting point is 01:23:50 It's not fun. If you have a reason, it's fun because we can all relate to that. A lot of the speculation I've been reading is that she's mad because Kathy was having contract dispute. She wanted a lot of money and that's why she didn't film the first half of the season. She gets to show up as a friend of, make all this money and get to promote her stuff and their piss. So they're coming after her for that. But even if that is the reason, we don't see that reason on here. And you just look like a deranged lady again coming
Starting point is 01:24:18 after someone for no reason. It just doesn't make any sense. So. So that happy can be so entertaining in like six episodes in a way that other people on the show can't be over a few years. So Kathy's like, well, I can't imagine anyone scaring Lisa Rina. I mean, Lisa Rina, and I'm constantly reminded of the situation with Lisa Rina and my sister, Kim.
Starting point is 01:24:42 She got physical. She got physical. And then we see a clip of that. That's the damn. Don't ever talk about my husband. And going for her napkin and breaking the wine glass. So. So then Rina's like, you're fucking angry
Starting point is 01:24:56 at this beautiful sister of yours. And just because she has permanent hat head because she loves those hats, doesn't mean you get to make fun of her. And Kathy's like, well, okay, well, I didn't handle myself well. And I'm not proud of it, okay? And I said some things I don't mean.
Starting point is 01:25:12 And that's all I can say. And then now Kyle's like, this is my moment. She goes, for me, Kathy's my sister. And you guys are like, all my sisters too. And they've been there for me. And the thought of you guys having this issue with me. Shut up Kyle. Shut the fuck up. Kyle, I can't wait.
Starting point is 01:25:31 Intercept movie star? The so-cathy psych, Rina, I apologize. And Rina's like, well I just want to know where the hatred comes from, Kathy, where is it? You got to figure it out. You got to figure it out. Why don't you have a black heart? What is it? Shut up. it out. You gotta figure out. Why do you have a black heart? What is it?
Starting point is 01:25:45 Shut up. Rina, are you fucking kidding? How has Rina not been decked in the face yet? How? Also, is everybody posting those Rina calling Star Joes, Agarilla, and all this shit that Rina supposedly said, and her and Harry and the fucking Matty shirt, the Sid and Nancy,
Starting point is 01:26:04 shut up, Rina. Just shut up over there. So she's a question black heart. Where is it? And Kathy's like, I'm not gonna have any more discussion with you. Thank you very much. And she's like, Oh, that's it. Oh, no more. I had a feeling it would go this way. I had a feeling. What, when you use her of having a black heart after she's apologized many, many, many times, that it would go this way and And cause like you guys please I'm begging you for the sake of Michael Myers. So Kathy's like no, I'm done. I'm done So Kathy just basically leaves
Starting point is 01:26:37 Kathy just showed up to this um fucking Bullshit that Kyle planned for Rina to come confront her. She did not lose her cool at all and she left calmly and cool after a decent apology. You tried it hookers both of you, Kyle and Rina, you tried it and you failed and Rina being like, I knew it was going to end this way. Well, what are you gonna tell people now that it ended that way that Kathy lost it again? You did win shit, we're gonna sit down, have a seat, ma'am. Meanwhile, Kathy walks out the door,
Starting point is 01:27:12 and she's like, okay, oh, by the way, I love what's going on with this flower. Do you see it? Look at the way she took his clothes. How's Fritty? Oh, look, this is wonderful. What is this? She's give her a good floral arrangement.
Starting point is 01:27:24 She's all good to go. The flower is she just stole to give the Kyle from the outside so funny So Rin is like, well, that was good and then it wasn't good Sorry, you can try and spin this, but you just lost again, Sakura Kyle's like, well, I'm looking for my left to be less complicated. I mean, it's hard enough balancing I'm looking for my life to be less complicated. I mean, it's hard enough balancing a marriage of 26 years, a friendship with a global superstar. I just want things to be just simple. Well, work needs to be done.
Starting point is 01:27:54 Work needs to be done between you. You have this moment and stuff needs to be done at the Carmel Sutra core. Okay. It should be done there. Well, you know what, uh, work, uh, Rina is correct about this. Work needs to be done with these sisters,
Starting point is 01:28:09 but Rina is not the one to do their work. So she should just be, like she should not be stepping in, be like, you have to work on why you have a black heart. Yadayadayada, all she's doing, I mean, she's so overstepping her bounds, which at the same time, as a reality star, we do want that.
Starting point is 01:28:22 The show is often accused of being a little too nicey, nicey. So I can't be 100% mad at this. I mean, I loved the scene. I thought this was great. I thought it was riveting. But Rina, yeah, Rina, no, no, Swing and a miss for her. I mean, Swing and a man. And you know, the rumor is that Rina, of course,
Starting point is 01:28:41 every season is the rumor that Rina is leaving. I think she starts these rumors to try and get more money. But the rumor is that she's going to leave because she's trying to get two million a season, which will make her the highest paid housewife ever. And people are saying, no, she's just saying that. So when she gets fired, she can say they couldn't afford her or whatever. But I cannot have Rina leave yet because I've always predicted Rene's final season will be bringing down Kyle. I mean, Kyle has used Rene as a weapon for so many
Starting point is 01:29:12 people over the years, and I believe her last act is taking down Kyle, and I will not be satisfied until that happens. I need a full circle on this shit, please. We do have a reunion coming up that's supposed to be pretty pretty vicious So it's gonna be boring as hell and we all know it, but we're gonna be there for it. Yeah Can't wait. Well also by the way, I think Rinna's not going to Bravo Con, right? So that's like adding fuel to the fire that she's leaving, you know, did she go to the first one? I I have no idea who was I feel like that's not a Rina thing that she, I don't feel like Rina's a like,
Starting point is 01:29:47 let's go be with the people kind of a housewife, you know. Yeah, that's true. She really isn't like that. So anyway, we've got everybody to thank, who almost said anybody, thank you for being here. Everybody here. Thank you for being here. Next week it looks like at the season finale
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