Watch What Crappens - RHOBH: The Hills Have Lies

Episode Date: November 4, 2021

The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills month of reunions concludes with an hour of grilling Erika. There are tears, curses, and most of all - inconsistencies. In the end we only know what thing... for certain: Kyle Richards loves a reaction shot.Be sure to watch our recap with Crappens on Demand here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/58280323See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Watch What Crapins Add Free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. Get ready for a double load of Queen of Hearts. It's me, Jujubee, and I return to guide sexy singles through some ronchy blind dates. Cameras off. Voice only. Launching during pride. Queen of Hearts takes Miami by storm, with Daeders' Cuppe from Tampa Bayes, Just Chas, and Brittany Brave to name a few. Follow Queen of Hearts on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to Watch Our Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, and joining me today is a man who's always open and honest, and someone can always just give a call to if you got something to ask him. It's Ronnie Cara, and what's going on Ronnie?
Starting point is 00:01:18 Well, hello, Bann. How are you doing today? Great. You look beautiful, your skin is radiant. Oh, well, thank you, I am. Yeah, this is for you. Well, you're welcome, it's honest. I am being open and honest.
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Starting point is 00:02:34 Okay. Uh, now, the main event. Ronny, are you ready for the main event? The grand finale of this Beverly Hills for part reunion. We're in Erica tells us how open she is and why don't people call her and then yells at people when they ask her questions. Yes, the big load of shit that is Erica's story this season. Okay, everybody. I'm just warning you. There's tons of notes here. There's tons of links to evidence. I told Ben, I feel like I'm preparing for debate team today, just have all my evidence
Starting point is 00:03:11 because she is just life to life, the live bitch. Well, I think the thing that just drives me nuts is this like ongoing thing about like, don't call me a liar, why would you call me a liar, why would you call me a liar? And then she's like, well, I'm admitted, I am admitted, but that's not lying. It's like, it's maybe it's not lying, but it's also like, it gives people grounds to say, are you telling me everything?
Starting point is 00:03:38 Cause that's where a lot of the questions are. Like, I don't know, I don't know what's going on cause I'm not sure if there's more of the story because you have now a history of holding shit back. And so that's what the story was. Yeah, basically. And it's also like, is anything else going on on the show? And they started filming early
Starting point is 00:03:56 because they wanted to get all the Erica stuff. You know, they want more Erica stuff, which is worrisome. Like it's been a fun season, but enough. Well, it's annoying that like, no one is challenging her. And I'd like to think that they're gonna be like, oh, okay, we see what the audience wants. So someone's gonna challenge. They're never gonna challenge her.
Starting point is 00:04:17 And later on in the episode, she even, Erica even brings up Potomac Atlanta and New York. And well, we'll get to that. But the point is this, she is living in a cake walk of a franchise right now and she's still getting mad at them. A cake walk. Cake walk.
Starting point is 00:04:35 And also shout out to Dureet who was in a terrible home robbery, such this week. So glad she's okay over there. Yeah. So let's get to it. Here we all I can't some more please back me the fuck So yeah previously how do you think I feel Erica did you ask him if he did it? She's I asked about what
Starting point is 00:05:03 what Carole and Carole mountain mountain he did it, she was, I said what, what, what, carol, it, carol, mountain, mountain. That's where we're starting out. Yeah, so. Hey, who believes Erica did not know anything about what Tom was doing? So all the women are like, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I never see anything. Who's there, I got anything. Who's from Erica? I'll be opening on us.
Starting point is 00:05:26 No, no, no. So then, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I don't think that Tom Scherrardi told her anything. I didn't mean. I didn't mean. I didn't mean. I didn't mean. Oh, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:05:36 No, it's the same thing. You can do it. Crystal's like, I have a question that has been bothering me. I mean, where's your anger towards him? She's like, I anger if I tell it, just because you can't see it doesn't mean I don't have it. All right. What do you want me to do? I'm very angry. Did you hear it in my voice? I'm angry. Did you hear it? Hear it. Hear it. Hear it. It's coming from my boyfriend. It's just real tricky. But if you want to get it up to the raft, that that's what you got in the crystal.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Moira McKinney at the learning addict said, if you want a portray, you got to think about something that makes you angry. So I thought about the time that someone stole Tiago's dog dish and I thought, oh I'm angry. Did you hear that? Is that angry enough for you, Crystal? Well, when the ladies ask questions that are reasonable, you might have shouted America, because it's absolutely I'm like she'd added everybody anyway, I wouldn't know!
Starting point is 00:06:30 Well, I wouldn't know, because blood if people don't understand what's going on and why isn't it normal to ask questions, because I tell you the truth. You may not get the whole truth, but you'll get some of the truth, and in parts, over the course of many years, but I tell the truth. Yeah. And you know I understand it, but you're biting people's heads up. Oh, now they're headless. I suppose that's Tom's fault too, huh?
Starting point is 00:06:55 Why not for your free money, your headless bitches? If you were being accused of these things and these. It's like, well, I would be furious. Oh, then thank you, thank you, Pornade, Pornade. But if it was my friends asking me, I wouldn't, I would be trying to make them understand without isolating them, you know? I haven't isolated them.
Starting point is 00:07:15 It's like, you just bit off Crystal's head. Well, she told me I wasn't angry enough, and like I said, I did pay $75 without learning out any class on how to act, okay? But she was just asking you if you're angry at him because she didn't know because she didn't feel it if a director tells me to give him more on giving them all And to read say no, but you haven't been as angry at him in this situation Because all right, I think this is now a moment where Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no best friend It's like it's about what people's understanding. Oh, that's too much So that's too much. What are you the fucking Goldilocks and directors? You'll never be on Broadway again, you hack
Starting point is 00:08:14 I'm saying I don't think these women are asking you questions in a way that are against you It's like when I say nice boobs. Are they new? It's like when I say nice boobs, are they new, saline, what's in there, give me all the details. It's not against you, it's just very probing. Yeah, they're not trying to make you look bad. She was, I think that, I think they are. And Garsell goes, you do. Garsell spends the entire, back the entire hour doing like vampire voice. Oh, like like like like, like, like,
Starting point is 00:08:45 like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,
Starting point is 00:08:53 like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, um, Kyle's dinner, I was very controlled about what I said. And then we see the clip of her sink. We have 50 to 80 million dollars that is gone. We did. Well, that was in the LA Times article that you so thoroughly read, Sutton. And then we come back and she said that she was very hurt by Sutton saying that she doesn't believe it and she doesn't buy it.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah. And Erica says, how do you think that makes me feel? You guys know me? You can read all of it. Talk to me about it. Now, I just want to flag this line as one of many for later on when Erica declares that she doesn't want sympathy
Starting point is 00:09:36 and she's not the victim. How do you think that makes me feel? You guys know me. How do you think it makes me feel? Not like a victim, because I'm not a victim right now, and I'm not asking for sympathy. I'm just asking a general academic question
Starting point is 00:09:49 about my feelings and how they work in my brain. And Garth says like, but we tried to ask you and literally after she yelled at somebody for asking about it. She's like, it's just so her, right? And Garth's like, well, we have questions, but that doesn't mean we don't care and Doreet's like we've tried but when we do it. This is your reaction. I have to tell you you bit the head off
Starting point is 00:10:12 You bit the head off here It's just like a lot of carbs for being on this cast. You know, I'm saying it's a lot of biting heads So Erica's like Doreet would you like to be called a liar? She's like no no! Of course not! So, why would you like to be in the position I'm in where I'm getting sued every single day? Poor me not a victim, not about my sympathy. But for these incredible things and constantly powered out of people closest to you are like you made a deal with a devil Well, we don't know would you like to be in that position to rate? Well, first of all to read kind of isn't that position. I had no idea
Starting point is 00:10:55 I'll have to say if anyone could understand it it would be to read So she's like but something's not the person closest to y'all right She's not and she's someone who said it and's like, yeah, but you are and you are Kyle and your husbands We're having a great old time laughing at my fuck the life This is Erica. Oh, it like of course. She's gonna pull that car This white always said I wait if you go back and listen the old recaps You know, Erica always likes to claim that she's like down in the gaze But if she were down with the gaze, I think she'd have a better sense of humor. Okay, because she takes things very very seriously
Starting point is 00:11:32 Yeah, cuz that shit was funny that was funny She would get it. She's yeah So Kyle's like no, we weren't they're insisting no they weren. Please show another clip of them busting up laughing because they totally were. And now it's like, well, I apologize. You know, I can't control what comes out of their mouth and say, and you know what? I can't control what Tom Gerardi did, okay? Or did not do.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yeah, but you spent like hundreds of millions of dollars that were supposed to go to other people. Like at least you had the benefit of spending all of that money. Like, I love that she's still not putting all of this together. Yeah, and also she doesn't realize that every time she says, oh, did not do, or allegedly, it's like, it just, you're covering for him.
Starting point is 00:12:18 You don't have to cover for this man who cheated on you and who dragged you into this mess. And one moment you're crying and you're angry about like, how could it be, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, right? But whatever. So Andy's like, well, when it first came out and people thought that Erica's divorce was a sham, what was going through your minds? And Kyle's like, oh my god, I never thought the divorce was a sham. I didn't think that for one second.
Starting point is 00:12:55 I didn't think it was a sham. I would have put it on a pillow and chopped it right in the middle like a pillow from 1983, Andy. I love to chop them up. I have to say it really has been an honor to reconnect with Jamie Lee Curtis. She's almost like a motherly figure to me. I mean, we go back so many years being in that iconic franchise. I'm sorry, you were asking what was going on in my head.
Starting point is 00:13:19 That was what was in my head. Yeah, thanks. But when you heard about what Tom was allegedly doing and to reach out, where the LA Times article she's talking about, it wasn't the gospel truth. If it was the gospel truth, it was just the first time we were learning about totally new developments about these alleged atrocities.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Erica, you know, we're trying to process it. And Erica left. She left us all alone trying to process things You know, I thought to myself gee, you know, it was less than 24 hours that suddenly asked to meet in my house And emotions were running high and we didn't have the answers and you know, it was just it was a lot to get It was a lot it was a lot happening. So Andy is like, and we see a clip of, we see a clip of Dereet like, everything we believe is actually the dynametical optimal logical and
Starting point is 00:14:10 the apological, sociophysical opposite of hypotheticals. I like, and Erica, your reaction to that meeting was what? And Erica's like, why didn't you, why didn't you have me there? You should have had me there.
Starting point is 00:14:26 No Erica, they could not have had you there because the whole thing was, hey, are we gonna get in trouble for around Erica? Like, you can't be there. The whole point is about, like, should we be away from you? You can't be part of that Erica. Well, who doesn't call the star of the musical for the table read? It's like, no, we can't have a hot-temmed roof without a heated roof! Or the cat.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Fuck you Andy, call him Call of the Academy a cat? Totally different show! Heh heh heh. So, um, yeah, Andy's like, well, you had just left them, and so she says, so it's easier to talk behind my back instead of including me and the conversation
Starting point is 00:15:05 as if she's like a font of information at all times. And Garo Cell says, ooh, it's also hard when you left because of something I asked. And then yet we have to come back and ask again. Like I don't think anyone thought about bringing you in honesty. I mean, she's basically saying like,
Starting point is 00:15:23 why would we have you at, why would we have you at, why would you we have you at this thing to ask you questions when you literally just left a trip a day early because of like one thing that was asked. Right. Well, Erica, you said you lived on credit cards. When did you realize that Tom was having money troubles and do you still get 2% back on cast purchases? Was one of your cards rejected, Amber? And she's like, in 2020, yeah, in 2020, out of the blue.
Starting point is 00:15:51 2020. 2020. I wanna make sure everyone knows there's a lot of teas in 2020. So 2020, I was watching 2020, and I was thinking about Hugh Downs, I thought, hmm, I wonder if he's still single and I was still on Broadway And that's what I realized one of my cards Was not working quite as well. So
Starting point is 00:16:14 So Andy's like well, did you he and do any of you guys hear that that Tom was having money problems any of you guys at all? anyone And Carl's like, well I had heard something, but I didn't know if it was true Andy. He said, tell me, tell me about it. Well, I know as much as Andy knows. Sorry Andy, I gotta throw you under the bus for that one. What did you know Andy? And he's like, well, we had heard something from the same person a few years ago. And what was it? That he was in financial trouble.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And then we see Daily Mail. Bethany Frankl claims she heard about Tom Gerardi's financial woes four years ago because of her late fiance, Dennis Shields. As the star says, it was a widely known best kept secret. You got to hand it to the Daily Mail. They can fit a lot of headline on the page. They really can. I can't. And you got to hand it to the Daily Mail. They can fit a lot of headline on the page. They really can.
Starting point is 00:17:05 And you got to hand it to Bethany Frankel, for someone who wants to leave the housewives behind. She sure knows how to make a splash at a reunion. So Erica's like, Andy, why wouldn't you come and tell me again? As if Erica's presenting herself, Why wouldn't you come and tell me again as if Erica is presenting herself like she's always been open and Accepting to all this stuff when she like I mean anytime in the past on reunions She would shut it down. So he's so Kyle's like oh, it was gossip. He was just he was just meaningless gossip
Starting point is 00:17:39 You know as if Kyle has never put all her weight behind gossip, right? And Andy's like, wow, didn't even register. It was like in a room with 50 other housewives, okay? Like one man having financial trouble. I mean, good line, Erica. Erica, it was like you on a billboard chart. It didn't even register, you know? Yeah, it's like one of your singles, Erica. So, Erica's like, you do a lot of people who didn't register also when the firm first filed and when everything happened, there were a lot of lawyers that called me and said, I thought Gerardi Kees was healthy. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:18:15 So lawyers call you because I thought you had nothing to do with Gerardi Kees. Like, why would all these lawyers be calling you when you have zero relationship over there and no knowledge of anything happening? Yeah, her, like, it's so funny how sometimes, lawyers be calling you when you have zero relationship over there and no knowledge of anything happening. Yeah. Her, like, it's so funny how sometimes she was separated from the money, from biology and no idea.
Starting point is 00:18:33 And yet, other times, she seems to come right into defense about what money was spent where, right? And then he says, well, viewers are wanting to know how you're paying for your life now. Check what you just told me had you paying me a lot of money, Andy Cohen. So you're spending that to like, yeah. Okay, but you just said that you were locked out of all of your accounts and have no money because you gave it all to Tom. So. And also, where's that? Why aren't they rolling the clip of her in Del Mar saying,
Starting point is 00:19:02 I've got nothing zero. And then you're like, well, you just said these words, but I'll have all my money is I I'm spending it like everyone else. I'm a lot to spend my money. So she's right. She's a lot to spend her money. But like the messaging is bunkers. There are a lot of people on Twitter, including Camille, Grower, they think you're deliberately running mascara. And then we see Camille Street. We're filming the Bahamas season night. Why? And we were all swimming in the water. I just don't remember seeing he jays mascara.
Starting point is 00:19:38 There was no mascara on the water. It was just like, it was a lot of it was just she'd never worn that before, like her mascara was always like good in the water. She always wore the white mascara and then over-sold and she's crying and she's going down her cheek. It's not right. So upsetting. Ronnie, congratulations, You did it. You got this upsetting. Yeah, got this upsetting. Only took 10 years. So listerine from Lawrence of Arabia said, I'm not buying your penny party and your bad acting, Erica, you always wear water proof mask girl. Are you doing that for the simply
Starting point is 00:20:20 vote? And she goes, no, and that's absolutely not true. And then of course, oh, this isn't when Rennie jumps in. She jumps in. No, no, Rennie's not jumping in. She's just on the side blowing out candles that are slightly above her head. Just taking her head, eyes closed. It's like someone's dangled, like someone dangled
Starting point is 00:20:38 a birthday cake and she's like, whew, whew, who's a mascara? Well, she's like, well, yes, I usually do because I have allergies and that now you can see me pat my face because if I just rubbed it, I would have had, you know, the mascara all over my face. So, you know, I don't need anyone sympathy or petty and I certainly don't need someone on the side who's no longer on the show to put in her two cents. Well, actually, I'll take a two cents. I'll take a two cents.
Starting point is 00:21:09 She can keep her fucking mouth shut. All right, two cents, Kimmer. So, again, so this is her saying, I don't need any sympathy, even though the first 10 minutes of the show, that's all she was asking for. And then, but it still doesn't really answer the question. Okay, so she has allergies, so that's why she has to wear,
Starting point is 00:21:29 she can't, okay, so she has allergies. And either way, Andy's like, so, but then why? But it makes sense, it doesn't make sense at all. But she says she has allergies. So you wear running mascara because you have allergies? The fuck you talk. Well, he's like, so why would you not wear waterproof mascara if it on like the one day and so then Rina jumps in just like I can help Erica Okay, okay, okay, um you have many different makeup artists
Starting point is 00:21:56 So maybe they messed up you makeup artists so many makeup artists. You're spending your money on so many different makeup artists You're spending your money on so many different makeup artists But I do not need a simple leave out. I do not need pity cut to look at my fucking So then I'll then it didn't just Erica's responses. It was a fluke. It was a fluke Who knew who would have thought what I walked in that day and I put on the mascara I thought hopefully today won't be one of those fluke. Who knew? Who would have thought, what I walked in that day and I put on the mascara? I thought, hopefully today won't be one of those fluke days where you put on the non waterproof mascara, but it was a big old afternoon day.
Starting point is 00:22:32 It happened by me. Well, I could move back. Hey, I like to interrupt. Hi, this is Mike Schuhed from Shaza Sunset. Erica, if I may, spoof mascara. Okay, there, That's my contribution. How much money you got?
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Starting point is 00:23:54 You can listen ad free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. A lot of reports about Tom being disbarred and he moved to assisted living facility. Have you spoken, ma'am? By the time being disbarred, he moved to assisted living facility. I mean, spoke, and man. Yeah, and it's very sad. Very, very sad. And it was all about, it was very, very sad. I was like, what was the tension? I have a question.
Starting point is 00:24:17 What was the, I know this is a tricky question, asking about a tenor to you, but what was the tenor of those conversations? Guy, I asked because he is very handsome. No, it means like what kind of conversation, what was the tone of those conversations? Off, it was off-tell. You know, I've been told that before, but I make up for it with my dancing skills, actually. So then she's like, oh, we're talking about Tom and assisted living. Okay, this man who I'm so angry at, I'm angry who cheated on me.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Who left me with all these, all these lawsuits. It was sounds like it. And I just wanted to make sure he was safe because after the pictures came out, he looked so bad. And I wanted to make sure he was in the right place. But I am angry at him also because he did all this to the alleged victims too, but he was so sad. I'm like, Erica, where are you? Where'd you land on this situation? Like everything that she says about one minute, she's choking up.
Starting point is 00:25:15 I mean, I, I get it. You're with her. You know this guy for 20 years, but it's like, this is what I think Crystal's getting at, right? Like, where is the anger towards this guy? Right. She's like, hey calls me everybody. And then we see the clip of her young kid, Garcell. Be training my friendship. And he's like, so why did you get upset with Garcell, sharing that with the group when you shared it
Starting point is 00:25:39 while miked on camera, which is so shady, because he knows that that is not at all how it happened. So fucking shady, Andy. And she's like, oh no, it was not on camera which is so shady because he knows that that is not at all how it happened. So fucking shady Andy. And she's like, oh no, it was not on camera. Cameras were down. So we were talking. And this goes to the sham. I could not answer those calls because people would say, I'm in court. And he's like, so you didn't want people to think that you were lying. Just right. Because I did speak to, but I hadn't spoken to him him spoken to him until he'd gone into the care facility Right, I'm allowed to say that right. I don't like listening to the earpiece because everyone's saying she has an earpiece So that's why she keeps pausing and looking around
Starting point is 00:26:16 But I think it's really just Erica trying to remember. I was just trying to let you go Yeah, yeah, and so and he's like so how many times have you spoken with him? She goes well, he calls every day. He's called five times today, okay? And everybody goes Okay, lower in the lower in the birthday cake. I'm ready to blow up some more birthday cake candles up Oh And if you expressed your anger to me You expressed your anger to him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is anger. This is anger.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Am I doing it right? It's like, okay, you don't have to keep yelling. All right, well, yeah, it's up. I'll say, why, why, why would you? Why would you? It's okay, it's okay. It's not okay. Okay, that's okay, too.
Starting point is 00:26:57 It's okay to not be okay. Ha, ha, ha, ha. It's okay to not be okay. Why would you do this horrible crime to all these makeup artists that I've hired? Why would you leave me with millions of dollars of lawsuits pointed at me? She got a love it. She's still not saying how could you rip off widows and orphans? That's still not even a question that she would consider. It's like, how could you do this to me?
Starting point is 00:27:28 Well, well, she also said, why would you lead me with millions of dollars of losses? I'm like, you actually left him unless you're saying, I don't know, I just know she's saying because now that he's incompetent, she's saying they can come after her, which they aren't going to come after her because she spent the fucking money and they can prove it. So she's saying, why would you leave me with all these millions? Which is a good point, I'd be pissed too. So he's like, yeah, I mean, that's the thing with her.
Starting point is 00:27:54 It's not, Tom is the villain, you know? It's just how she's handling all of it. She's just watching. And he's like, did you ask him if he stole it? He's like, Andy, Andy, hey, not made me the conologist. And it's like, none of it. if he stole and he's like, Andy, Andy, hey, nothing with acknowledged anything. None of it. He doesn't even matter what he says, because he's incompetent.
Starting point is 00:28:10 So I've like told him the fucking bag. And she is like such a villain in a 20s movie that has just been caught. Like fun. She just seems like makes us like kind of twist a face. Like I'm the one that tells us the fucking man. Hi, I'm a wild out of the fucking bang I'm hi, I just want to be open and honest about something I'd like to really see that back I does it is it airmeas can I see that back Kyle be quiet okay so uh to read like
Starting point is 00:28:37 um so he doesn't even acknowledge that he has these lawsuits and that these things are going on He's not like gee there's. He's not capable of understanding it. Not what I've pressed, and I probably shouldn't be telling you that, because it just furthers the story that he's incompetent and can't stand trial, which means I wouldn't have to stand trial either most likely. So, oh, oh, stop talking about it. He's so sick. But he's not so sick that's can't call you five times today, which I know from Dimension. My family is kind of a difficult task when you have dementia. So Andy's like, well, the big bombshell in the LA Times article is that $20 million was transferred. It was
Starting point is 00:29:19 not. It was not. So $20 million was not transferred to your company. EJ Global, that is correct. Because so was it a, it wasn't alone. That is correct. My lawyer wrote a letter to E and everybody else, but somehow that doesn't get told. Mm. I'm just going like this.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Mm. Licking your bottom lip. Mm. Gotta look at those lights up there. Who those lights got gotta look up? Now by the way, I thought Erica didn't know anything about EJ Global or the finances of EJ Global. I thought all that stuff was kept at your already case,
Starting point is 00:29:53 but now all of a sudden she knows that 20 million wasn't transferred to it, but she doesn't know anything at all at the same time. Right, and just so people know this $20 million that they're talking about, uh, $14 million, which he brings up is an American express bill that it was being paid for her. And then I think like a lot more of it was from these lottery payments that were being diverted to her because one of their clients was paying off. They were paying them off with
Starting point is 00:30:20 lottery winnings that were coming in installments. and those payments were all diverted to her. And that's all been proven on a money trail. So I'm not sure how that is considered not going into her account. But. And then her next defense, I thought was sort of also a hilarious and tone deaf. She's like, she's like, yes,
Starting point is 00:30:39 that money was over on the American Express card. That was over 12 years. I mean, if you knock that down to two million a year, I mean, that's pretty much what we're all doing here in this lifestyle. I'm like you have to listen to the you're like you're in a PR crisis here with people who have not received a dime and you're just acting like well two million dollars a year. I mean, that's not a crazy amount. Yeah, that's nothing. Yeah, that's nothing. Even though it was, it's crazy. Yeah, and Kathy's board, she just starts putting on lipstick,
Starting point is 00:31:09 which is really funny. She's doing the dental work on a PA. Yeah. So Eric is like, well, I'm not in bankruptcy, my Tom. So I'm being sued by everyone who thinks I've got this particle, I've sitting on somewhere, possibly I've show up by the fuckers so you can't find it, which I'm not, of course.
Starting point is 00:31:25 So what does that mean? If they take money back from me, then they'll take it back from every other lawyer's salary. Does that need to be clawed back? Does every secretary's salary need to be clawed back? Babe, the money was stolen and moved around to spend on you and your fucking sham career. Like what are you trying to get an EJ global?
Starting point is 00:31:47 It's not just like, oh, it's from you. It's your present EJ global or something like that, right? So, um, Andy's like, so why was it ruled that you could be roped into this? Because I don't know. Do you know? Uh, it's more that I, it's more of a stack of shit that I have you know what I'm saying and then Kyle is like Oh
Starting point is 00:32:08 What about the mistresses can they could take them? Can they take the money back from the mistresses? This is crazy Yes, thank you Kyle. What about them? You know what let's go get the buddy out of there I don't know So yeah, so face all that. Yeah. So a face. All right, so you're a vampy villain. Okay. Hey, you said Tom started making bad decisions three years ago after his accident, but the LA Times said the wrongdoing spanned over a decade before that.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Well, listen, that would be long before I'm on the show. So I'm like, okay, sure, fine. I don't understand that. I'm not a doctor, I'm not a doctor, you know, I'm not, well, do I know, I'm no doctor. Oh, okay, now you're not a doctor. Even though I should. Yeah, don't do the brain, just the egg cold.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Okay, thanks, Erica, stat. So then Andy is saying, well, people thought you were manipulating the narrative by saying that the cognitive and Andy was very proud Of himself in this moment because he actually took the camera and put it over to the side So you could tell this is a question he practiced and he just says cognitive decline Ten times People thought you were manipulating the narrative by saying that the cognitive decline started three years ago and you were somehow connecting the cognitive decline
Starting point is 00:33:33 with him allegedly ripping off people because of cognitive decline. Cognitive decline, Eric. No, if you put your brain on skis and send it down slow is that cognitive decline? So Erica's like We don't see why not I personally love shopping at cognitive decline I think you have Calvin Klein What I would never end I'm telling you speak down So Erica's like I'm simply explaining that speak down. So, Erica's like, I'm simply explaining
Starting point is 00:34:07 that what I have experienced and nothing more. Right, except that you said, after Tom had that brain injury, that's when things started to go bad with the business. You said it on the show, ma'am. They've literally just showed a clip, if you say it. Yeah. So, Andy's like, so is anybody heard of Tom's corruption? They're like, what now?
Starting point is 00:34:28 Tom, what now? Now, I haven't heard a thing. I mean, Tom. Yeah, that's a full of it. It's like, well, by all accounts, this was an obstanic man in the community who's doing well. He was winning awards. What are we supposed to believe in there?
Starting point is 00:34:43 I'm like, it's kind of, again, it's sort of weird that she's kind of going to bat for him here while then last episode she's talking about the mistresses, like, she's not mad. So, and- Well, she's also saying, by all accounts, this is an upstanding man who in the community, in the community who's still winning awards, saying,
Starting point is 00:35:00 there was no sign of cognitive decline. Like, here's a man still going to work every day, running a company and winning awards. So how are we supposed to know anything's wrong? Like, she keeps it straight. Right, like it's about the corruption and like, have there been any signs, et cetera? And so Andy,
Starting point is 00:35:16 but her saying there's no signs of corruption is also kind of her saying there's no signs of mental decline, right? Because all the things she's saying is like, here's this man. He's still doing so well in the community. He's still winning awards. He's still going to work every day. He's still doing this. It's like, but weren't you just saying that he can barely even, you know, yeah. So, and he's like, well, I have to assume that if you had thought Tom was involved in any of the impropriety of the money you were spending that you would not come out with the song expensive also I have to assume that if you just even listen to it just the song just the melody or what passes the melody you probably wouldn't have released it either right
Starting point is 00:35:58 well she wouldn't have released it if she'd known that he was gonna get caught that's probably for sure sure. But she's like, well, I wouldn't have been on the reality TV show. Which of course you were on the reality TV show because you needed money. And you also got PR for your shitty music about the fake life you were ripping off people to have. Which I, I, again, I don't believe that she knew what was going on. But it's either way. So she's like, this is not Erica being some financial mastermind. This is a tragic sequence of events that are completely terrible.
Starting point is 00:36:30 And specifically those tragic events, all that, there are millions of dollars I'm not receiving right now. And I'm the victim here. I'm the victim. So she's like, you can't hide, you know what? Like, she goes, I wouldn't come on TV because this isn't stuff that you could hide.
Starting point is 00:36:49 That's what I'm saying. It was hidden for like 20 years. He hit it for years by paying off judges and cops and the fucking state bar. I mean, come on now. She's, there's an article about how a state, someone who worked at the state bar who was in charge of investigating Tom
Starting point is 00:37:05 was being paid by Tom's son-in-law who worked at the firm to moonlight. Yeah. So I mean, that's somebody supposed to be, you know, looking for things on Tom that's actually on Tom's payroll. He was, he had everybody on his payroll. That's why.
Starting point is 00:37:21 But Eric has a whole defense is that this was all hidden from her. And so now she's like, well, you can't have this stuff. So Andy is like I said, uh, sudden, you said one of Tom's partners left because of shady business practices. And son says, no, that was a rumor that person had heard and I chose to promote it on television. Big difference, big difference. Um, and she's like, well, I would love promote it on television. Big difference, big difference. And she's like, well, I would love that person's name. Well, how about Tom Sonnenlaw,
Starting point is 00:37:57 who I just mentioned, who did quit in June, according to him, he got in a big fight with Tom refusing to pay the intonation victims. His name is David Leera. And he left. And that's right in your family. So maybe you've heard of him, I don't know, but Eric will like, what? Somebody call Tomat, parallel it. It takes a simple Google, ma'am. Yeah. So, sorry, I warned you, I had links.
Starting point is 00:38:21 No, no, no, it's fine. I got distracted by something else. It was just like an email that I was like, huh? So then, so then she's, Erica's now acting like she's this investigation. It's gonna help her investigation or whatever. And, and so it's like, I don't know his name.
Starting point is 00:38:37 And she goes, well, you're brighting up. So listen, huh? Just stop for a second. This is what I'm talking about. If you're gonna throw it out, back it up and give me a name so I can go and- It would help you, right? Yes, you see what I'm saying? Help me! Help me, son! I don't know. This is just an odd moment.
Starting point is 00:38:58 I will. I will. I will help you, Erica. I will. So now, Andy's like, well going back to the meeting at Doreet, was there any one thing that surprised you the most, Erica? She goes, Well, what upset me was, why are they believing all this stuff when I'm right here? The source is right here, and I worked really hard to be open and honest.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Like that one guy, that was for you, Kyle. And I felt like I was just getting shit on for it. I was just, I'm right here, I'm the source. I might because even in this one hour, your story has changed a million times. That's why they can't go to you for the, you're not a reliable source. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:36 So to reach, like, where we've never spoken about the lawsuits. It's like, but we had never spoken about your lawsuit team. It's good. That we had never spoken about your lawsuit team. It's good. Fair, fair point. Extremely fair point, but also another way to just dodge, right? So you're saying that you should have had to talk about your lawsuits with them right after you said you were being open and on whatever. So Andy's like in 2019, a clip where he's saying, now come on now, Doree, there's an ongoing lawsuit with your partner, oh, from Beverly Beach, yes,
Starting point is 00:40:10 from Beverly Beach. And she's like, I can't talk about that. It's a lawsuit. He talks about lawsuits. You can't do that, I'm there. So, got a point there, buddy. And then Kyle's like, well, Erica, people are afraid to ask you questions because you're closed.
Starting point is 00:40:25 And somebody goes, I ask questions. And then her character goes, but to my face, love to my face. And she goes, I did it to your face. Well, and Andy goes, and I didn't go great when they did ask questions, right? Garsell, do you want to give something? Huh.
Starting point is 00:40:41 What? Okay, fine. That works for now. He goes, it didn't go great when they asked you questions and she goes, who cares? That's great to pass up you being open and honest right there. Garso goes, well, it does make us hesitate.
Starting point is 00:40:58 She's like, we're talking about every shit, right? I mean, what do you want me to do? I'm a human. Yeah, and Erica says, at Christmas dinner, I didn't do enough. I clearly wasn't angry enough. I wasn't mad enough, so I cannot win there. And to read, it's like, wait, wait, wait, wait here, up there, because you're saying that we said you're not angry enough.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Wait, here there, what? And she's like, listen, she just said I'm not angry enough. Oh, all right, to get you now. And Chris was like, I just asked if you were angry at Tom. And she goes, oh, there it is. I'm then carrying away. Like, she's all pissed off at Crystal now. And Chris was like, I just, I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:41:37 It was a reasonable question, you know? And then, Renegas, you know what? If we are going to get together, talking behind people's backs, never works, never works. Yeah, never works, it never works. And then Andy's like, Rina. Rina, come on, man. And then he's like roll the footage of Rinna,
Starting point is 00:41:59 just talking about everyone's backs for five years. Commissions, here comes one right now. one's backs for five years. All right, and Rina, you know, another pillar of taking responsibility on this show. We see clips of Munchausen, which she brought up on camera and then blamed on Kyle and Vanderpump. Then in 2016, I would say she's mostly sober. They're this close to Kim dying which your response was like What I don't remember saying that what I said that that breaks my heart because I don't even remember it
Starting point is 00:42:31 And then in 2020 saying Denise didn't show up and the first poster man posted was in a hospital bed with six herdeus That is called a sympathy post. I know how this game works baby. Yeah So Garth's I was like well if you care so much about Erica POST! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA I said is that for gonna get together? You said if Erica wanted it, walked in, you would say to her face, and I'm just like, she's here. Say it to her face, her face. Oh God, I know those lights on the rafters. I gotta look at them again. We're taking care of them. And did you give her her heads up?
Starting point is 00:43:19 And Erica's like, yes, she goes, I did. I did. And Kyle, Kyle goes, well, Satan was the one he called the meeting. She was the one who had legal concerns. Are she the one who took charge of this whole thing? And yes, I mean, I still had questions, but it's Satan's fault. It's Satan's fault.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Just really just throwing Satan under the bus there. So Mary from Long Island says, I'm so disappointed in so many of you when it comes to questioning Erica. Crystal, you're a quiet. Kyle, you were a kiss ass. To read your duplicitous. Why didn't any of you guys ask the tough questions? And Kyle's like, I did. I asked so many that I felt bad. And she's, yeah, but you never accused me of lying. And that was my issue. And why I had to
Starting point is 00:44:00 break bad at cafes. You know, but you can pick up the phone and you can say, girl, what the fuck? Yeah, right. You can not do that to Erica by any means. I also like Kyle acting like she asked the tough questions. She asked perfunctory questions with no follow-up and just took the answer surface on, you know, surface value, not surface value, face value. And then in her confessionals, she had a lot to say. But like her acting like she was pressing Eric for all the details, no man. Well, I have to say in Kyle's defense,
Starting point is 00:44:34 I know it was shocking. The thing is Kyle did ask. She was saying, well, but then the obvious question, they show a clip in the screen and then her saying, the obvious question is, did you know about this stuff? And she did ask the questions. The thing is what they did was they made it all about Sutton. So she would ask something and then they'd be like,
Starting point is 00:44:52 well Sutton, you're lying, go ahead and tell her what you said about her, go ahead Sutton. When Sutton would say it very calmly, Kyle would just keep coming and turning it right back around and being like, oh really, well that's, you know, you're lying Sutton, why what, you just tell her, I'm sorry, but you're lying. Seth called you a liar.
Starting point is 00:45:09 When they all kind of did, but they decided that they were gonna take Seth's way of saying it and make it the worst way. I just feel like Kyle did ask questions, but she sort of asked the questions that we, like if she didn't ask them, she's like the audience would destroy her. So she sort of asked questions that she knew she had to ask.
Starting point is 00:45:29 But like, Erica would just give the answers that she had prepared, you know, or like the easy answers. And Kyle was like, okay, like there was never any sort of critical pushback from Kyle about like, wait a second, this doesn't add up. But you could tell that she was thinking it
Starting point is 00:45:44 because you get that look on her face like, and then she would say it in the interviews, you know. Well, she would say it's not adding up. So I'm going to make set. I'm going to say that Sutton's been lying about it so that she has to keep explaining herself more and more every time we get together, right? Yeah, the Erica would have to. So anyway, Garsell's like, so did you ever apologize to you? She's just whispering to Sutton and Sutton's like, no, and they're gonna just, what? And she says, well, I was just wondering if you ever apologized to Sutton, just, what? That dinner at Kathy's, remember, the awful, awful dinner. And they're like, no, like, and you're not going to, not tonight. What am I apologizing for? God said, for standing up for myself. And he's like, for threatening her. And for being so vicious, let me add a, what? To that, to really drive home the point.
Starting point is 00:46:37 I mean, you said I'm gonna come after you. You said she was, oh, do you know what I meant by that? Let me explain. Girls goes, oh yeah, I don't think anyone everyone knew what you meant so go ahead and explain that Erica. And she's like well I'm about to tell you Kyle. Now everyone on this show knows the long you stay on everyone goes through their own personal stuff and when it's your turn I will not give you the grace that I ask for and
Starting point is 00:47:03 I happen to be the one getting it this year, but you could be the one getting it next year. Congratulations, Erica Jan. You are now officially ascended to a true real housewife by having complete revisionist history over you saying, I'm coming for you. Like it's pretty clear you said I'm coming for you. Like not like, oh well someday it's going to be bad for you and when it's bad for you, I'm coming for you like not like oh well someday It's gonna be bad for you and when it's bad for you. I will not be there for you. You literally said I'm coming for you Not I will not be there for you. I'm totally different thing. Yeah, with your head all pulled up and her ponytail all on And so and he's like well
Starting point is 00:47:40 It's not really how it came off But that's how they did and Garsell's, yeah, but we didn't know that. Just, and here we are again. And you, Andy, rolling your eyes at me. Oh, and that's okay. And he's like, I'm just saying it's not how it came off. Oh, and I mean, I'm coming for you. If you understand, I'm coming to you with Christmas gifts, mate.
Starting point is 00:48:01 You never know, you know? Santa Claus is coming every Christmas. He tells you all be coming Christmas. He does everyone think he's trying to murder families. Is that what Santa's trying to do? I guess all says, well, had you just said that, it would have been easier to digest than I'm coming for you. And then the Erica goes, I'm coming for you is slang.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Oh, like, oh, okay. As you all know, I'm coming for you is slang. Like, oh, okay. As you all know, I'm coming for you is slang for if you ever experience hard times, I'm probably not going to support you as much because you didn't support me. It's slang guys. It's the newest slag. It's all over TikTok. I'm coming for you. And girl sells like, yeah, but I think it's more of the intent.
Starting point is 00:48:44 She's trying to use logic on someone who's just gonna deny everything you say, right? She's like, but I think it's more the intent and how you said it and said, he's threatening me and my family. And Andy says, Renna goes, oh, it was scary. It was scary.
Starting point is 00:48:58 It was scary. Slang is scary for Satan. Very scary to slang. Very scary. And then I don't have'm slaying about all life's matter per a Garsell goes what was scary for everyone and it was scary to watch So Eric is oh please in Patel making it would have been a conversation and Atlanta would have been a Conversation and the york would have been a conversation. It's only a Beverly Hills that everyone's so precious fuck
Starting point is 00:49:26 I'm like you're right and guess what if you were on Atlanta or Potomac or New York They would be destroying you right now. Good luck for sure good luck with any of them They would have brought out all the receipts and they would have just they would they were your life would have been hell You have it so easy right now, so don't act like everyone's so precious. You were the most precious of all of them. And just how she says that she's such a witch. Like, I was a precious. Oh, so happy to start laughing.
Starting point is 00:49:55 I think your assessment, Ronnie, your assessment from the very first episode, a month ago, was the most correct, which that Erica came in here, just with a swagger of like a, like a, some sort of like pulpy, prison movie from the 60s, right? Like the, well, yeah, girls.
Starting point is 00:50:13 And that's kind of her persona. I feel like if you look at, half the things she says don't make sense, they just have that kind of swagger of a villain that she saw on a movie once. And she does, if I say it like this, if I say it in a certain way like this, it's gonna sound real cool,
Starting point is 00:50:30 but it actually offers no substance or insight into any situation. And that's kind of how her personality always has been on the show, you know? Like she really, you can't really think of good Erica one-liners on this show, really. Until this year when she's like severely angry or upset when she's really gotten upset, you have the, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:47 though what I do with it night, you know, there are those eric quotes, but she doesn't really have a ton of funny quotes. And we've always said she's just got the gaze. She's not doing, she's kind of copying the gay culture or appropriating the gay culture and the drag queen culture, et cetera. And so she's just saying things and they're not funny, but she's saying, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, she's just a vessel. She's just a vessel.
Starting point is 00:51:09 She absorbs the catch phrases from her gaze. She absorbs the things she sees on TV. And so she regurgitates them. And now when forced to actually think and be her own person beyond this persona that she's created for herself, she kind of flounders, right? Because again, as much as I am just like, for me, like coming down on, you know, she says this
Starting point is 00:51:32 and then she says this, she says this, and she says this, I truly don't believe she knew what was going on with all this stuff, but she's so inconsistent with everything that she says, and I think that comes down to actually not having a sense of self. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I say that also, somebody does actually not having a sense of self. Yeah. Yeah. I say that also.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Andy does not have a huge sense of self. I say that as someone who's also a vessel. Well, I don't think that that's true. But I do agree with the. A big oxo container of. That's a, hey, listen, that's a personality. Oxo is a personality. At least it is now.
Starting point is 00:52:03 I'm going to say that. If you're my band, you stop being mean to my band. Okay. So Andy's like, well, Queen's a Bravo, which good job, by the way, of giving shout outs to all the podcasters, well, a lot of the podcasters and stuff, and Instagram, they're really up and doing that.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Yeah, it's been cool to see that. So Andy's like, well, Queen's a Bravo, posted pics of you a Kathy's party and Said and not once was she called the bully cuz this all Erica being like her, you know angry beaver face or what What and Garsell's like thank you agreed And yeah, Garsell's like that's one of her biggest her one of her biggest regrets was not speaking up or, you know, have just sort of letting Eric a steamroll. And I'm like, that's one of my biggest regrets
Starting point is 00:52:53 too, because I really would have loved to see Garthsel put the kabash on that situation. Right. And so Andy's like, well, what would you have said? Taylor, I'm strong enough, Andy. You know, I should have tried to intervene. Well, Pookie from Pittsburgh said that she would have hired security amla, Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Sounds like I did. I did actually, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:53:15 I did, she threatened my family for a week. I hired security for an entire week. Which is kind of funny. And then Kyle's like, oh, I mean, we're in a Joe Pesci movie right now. Huh? I'm like, of course, Kyle makes a like Ray Leota. Come on, bring it up to the Ray Leota. I mean, we love Joe Pesci, but let's come on. Erica could use a Joe Pesci movie right now. My cousin Vinny, she's in desperate need of a Joe Pesci story here. She needs some terror trademarks to exonerate her.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Yeah. So Erica is laughing in sudden space, basically. And something's like, but you said you were gonna come from my family. She was, well, you came from me and my family. So you can get pushed back on that. So I thought, well, that is not an okay way to speak with people. Erica, she's like, well, it's not okay to call someone alive. And it's not okay to say someone made a deal
Starting point is 00:54:04 with the devil. And it's not okay to call someone alive and it's not okay to say someone made a deal with the devil and it's not okay She starts doing her diction not and Sounds like well, I have my opinion and I have mine. We'll talk about it like an adult. I am an adult mother Well, I didn't feel like it at the table Well, and it felt like you were being a bitchy fucking Cut fitness, okay? That's what it felt like you were being a bitchy fucking cut fitness, okay? That's what it felt like.
Starting point is 00:54:26 I'm like, well, props for you. Props to you for really backing up that. I am doing it like an adult thing. Yeah. So then- See children say the sweet word? Nobody do that. And then of course it gives Kyle a chance to do this.
Starting point is 00:54:41 If their mouth just drop her mouth, look around with their mouth open. All her banglets are like, so then, Erica is like, if you could not understand the position I'm in and you kept pushing and pushing and pushing and you were worried about yourself
Starting point is 00:55:01 and not about me who's not the victim and doesn't need people to worry about him but you weren't worried about me. No, actually, I wasn't worried about my only myself. I didn't see you being worried about the victims at all. She goes, you don't know that. You're just assuming that what what I needed to do. Satin.
Starting point is 00:55:18 She goes, well, you were just insulting me. You weren't having any conversations. And she says, I will not be called alive. And so I goes, if you would talk to me, maybe you could convince me that you were and I'm not a liar. I don't need to convince you. I only withhold the truth for many years. And then when I do give you the truth and you get mad,
Starting point is 00:55:42 you didn't get the whole truth, I then say that you are being mean and then later on I lie about us being friends that's all but I'm not a liar you know that would be well enough to say I'm a liar I was looking at the facts what facts 20 million didn't go into my account so you shouldn't jump to conclusions uh you just said that you spent 14 million of that on an amix bill over come on The lottery clubs were diverted to you. What is confusing and Eric is like Eric is a liar. Eric is inconsistent. Eric of this and sudden cuz well
Starting point is 00:56:18 But I'm not It's sudden goes you know what you did to me in Delmar? You pretended to be my friend. And she goes, and you pretended to be mine. And she goes, no, I thought I was being so zeal. And you know what that is? Lion. It was so good. I was like, good Sutton.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Good Sutton was finally kind of hitting her points at this part, you know? Well Sutton brought it back to like a housewives fight, right? Yeah. She's like, you're a liar because of some housewives you type of thing. Not like this isn't even about the orphans of what is. I'm calling you a liar because of some housewivesy type of thing not like this isn't even about the orphans with us I'm calling you a liar for these kinds of things we're adding one
Starting point is 00:56:50 way and then doing another and an Erica responds with another thing that doesn't totally make sense because that's actually just called play it your ass I'm like oh congratulations you heard some dialogue somewhere like that makes no sense playing your ass at best. It means you're saying you lied I played your ass. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what's going on in that head Yeah, so Andy says will tell me why being called a liar is such a trigger for you Big deal about life and going and when it goes it's a pretty dangerous moment to be called a liar if you think about it And when it goes, it's a pretty dangerous moment to be called a liar if you think about it. Ha ha ha. Amen.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Oh, big deal. Just, this has big consequences. You know, for someone who doesn't like being called a liar, I mean, no one really likes being called a liar, but for someone who doesn't like being called a liar, she certainly has made a career off of fakery, right? Like her whole career is that she has a different persona. There's Evacadreine and there's acajorati. So you kind of like your whole stick is about playing with the truth.
Starting point is 00:57:50 So why are you surprised now that that's coming back to haunt you? Right. And she's saying, you know, I never told that story about Tom or the crash to anyone. So when I did tell it and I've been called a liar about it. Also, we never found out why being called the liar is such a trigger. Like she literally answers nothing on this entire reunion, which makes me crazy because you go online and everyone's like,
Starting point is 00:58:13 oh my god, she answered so much. She literally never answers anything. But also like, she's upset that she's being called a liar about what happened with Tom. So it's like, okay, so originally you didn't disclose everything that happened. So sure, authentically, that doesn't make you a liar. You were omitting. And it's also, by the way, what people have a right to divulge whatever they wanted to divulge. But also, you have to appreciate the fact that people may be put off by this, you have to not be upset
Starting point is 00:58:48 if people think that when you tell them something, there may be more to the story now because you've proven that you hold shit back until it's convenient. And so, you know, maybe it's not a liar, but it's like it's not being. It is. It is being a fucking liar. Sorry. It is, it is being a fucking liar, sorry, it is. It's being untrue for the first. And the whole thing is,
Starting point is 00:59:06 she's saying, Sutton's, Eric is saying that Sutton was calling her a liar about all of the criminal stuff. When Sutton was really just being a liar about simpler things, right? Like in this, and this is actually Sutton trying to help, Erico, which is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:59:20 So Sutton goes, but you did lie in that story because you said he broke his ankle and that was it. She said, but he did break his ankle. Yeah, but just because you didn't say that he had the brain thing at the same time, I mean, that is still lying. She just, no. She was, and Crystal says, well, it's omitting. She's all that. Hold on. It's not omitting. And Sutton says, yeah, but you said your marriage was perfect. And he was having affairs. You know, the thing is, Erica, sometimes it's okay to lie to protect yourself. So, something's like throwing her line here, right?
Starting point is 00:59:50 And then, Erica's like, I'm not lying! First off, you weren't even in, I'll creep back then when it happened. It just goes, but you told the story to me. So... And then, basically, it's like, and she's like, but you're saying you left things out and Erica goes, well, you know why? And then, he it's like, and he's like, but you're saying you left things out and Erica goes, well, you know why? And then he goes to protect him and so on goes,
Starting point is 01:00:09 and that's okay. Erica goes, that's not a lie. So now, by the way, also, Erica is admitting that she's protecting him. Like, this person, why would you leave me with all these things? I was protecting him. It's like, what?
Starting point is 01:00:20 The narrative is so, it's like it's a disaster. Like, it's- She just admitted to lying to protect Tom, but we can't call it lying. Okay, Erica, got it. So Garth says like, but if you told that story to protect Tom, but we didn't know you were protecting Tom, you can see it as, hold on, hold on, hold on. Once Tom, Tom's council had said that he's incompetent,
Starting point is 01:00:43 then I came with the whole story. And by the way, when Rina asked me a question, I couldn't answer even when we're close. I said, I can't answer that. That's okay. I said, okay. Wait, this is how I did it. I went, okay.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Oh God, I was good, I nailed it. But now you're saying, now you're bragging about not answering something. You see? And then once Tom's council got him declared as incompetent and you knew that he wasn't going to stand trial, then you were honest about everything. I'm not. All you did was give evidence that he was incompetent so that he wouldn't have to stand trial.
Starting point is 01:01:17 I, by the way, I interpreted what Garsell was saying because she sort of trailed off of was interrupted. Garsell said, if you don't know the story, like she said, if you don't, the way I interpret it, I'm gonna get like lost in this tangle of logic here, is that if Erica was not telling the full truth about that car accident to protect Tom, but then Erica is saying that, if you do,
Starting point is 01:01:43 I, I don't know how I don't even say this. This is like Garcellus saying you were, but Marcelo, thank you were being confusing to be protective, but we didn't know you were being protected. No, I know. I know. I know. It sounds like a lie. No, I took Garcellus saying you may be right, but I took it as her saying you're saying
Starting point is 01:02:01 you're protecting him, but then you're also saying you didn't know that there was something So how are you protecting him from something you don't know that you're protecting? Right well, yeah, well that's true Just that logic work is who here Ha who here just wants to drive themselves off a cliff at this point Everyone listening raise your hand if you're like oh my god wants to drive themselves off a cliff. At this point, who needs to roll over five? Everyone listening, raise your hand. If you're like, Oh my God, by the way, all our listeners are just like banging their head on the steering wheel. Listening to us parse this information. Well, so Andy's like, well, Mary's from Amberger says, Rina, you said the Erica shouldn't
Starting point is 01:02:38 be questioned because she's going through something serious. Well, you'll learn this health, Kim's addiction, and Denise's marriage were all pretty serious, but now with Erica, it's Crickets. Then aliens, think over your body. Please explain yourself. Okay, all right, great. Time for me to give a soap opera monologue. Okay, I'm gonna say this.
Starting point is 01:03:01 I feel horrible about what happened with Yolanda. I regret that. That was wrong on every level. And I'm really say this. I feel horrible about what happened with Yolanda. I regret that. That was wrong on every level. And I'm really sorry that happened. I wish I could take that back because then, then my daughters and Gigi and Bella, they could all be models together on the same level. I regret that and Kim, God.
Starting point is 01:03:20 I also feel like it wasn't my place to say that. And I hope in the end, I hope it helped in in some way I don't feel good about that either. Who else? Who else Ronnie? Who else do I not feel bad about? Denise. Huh? Denise. Denise. God I feel bad about that too. I don't like that I went down. But it happened. Oh God. Oh and the other day I went to Starbucks and I asked for a latte and I went on a ticket. I thought it was a latte.
Starting point is 01:03:45 It was a tea. I took someone's tea. I feel bad about that. It haunts me. So I wish it happened, no, but it's what makes you. It's what makes you, God. All these things, I don't feel great about. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 01:03:57 I did them. Mm-mm. I did them. And it happened. Mm-mm. And it haunts me. Mm-mm. Ah, sorry.
Starting point is 01:04:04 And that was the ghost of Denise's husband's gigantic penis haunting me right there. He shouldn't everyone haunts me, but I have to live with myself, Andy. I have to live with the consequences of my actions. We all do if I could take it back. I would. Oh, Andy.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Oh, I got another thing I will have to confess. Last weekend, I told Harry, let's stay in an old creaky mansion in Connecticut to celebrate Halloween and their actual ghosts that haunted me too. It actually literally haunted me. That haunted me, Andy, that haunted me. But that's what makes us. The following up, those questions,
Starting point is 01:04:44 there were a lot of conversations about Lisa Vanderpump and Lucy Lucy Abel, Lucy. So how much you might even fird the cheese dough from orphans and widows, which is a stretch. What the fuck is that mean? No, no, he was saying, no, no, he was saying that they were reacting so intensely about that. You would have thought shit on that.
Starting point is 01:05:05 You would have thought. Okay, I was like, what? But don't worry, you're with Erica, because Erica was like, what? And he was like, uh, okay, I'm just saying the level of questioning. And so then Erica goes, well, she ran away and I didn't. And she chose not to show up. And I showed up today as vicious and as angry and as hit as I am.
Starting point is 01:05:23 She couldn't answer the bell and I did. I'm like, that's true. Also has nothing to do with the question. Okay, the point is that it's about the fact that these women went so hard on these Savannah pump about an article in Raider Online and yet with you, when there's something that's like a real significant thing, it was all kid gloves. So it has nothing to do with whether or not she showed up.
Starting point is 01:05:47 And thank you for showing up, by the way, because I did think it was bad. That Vanderpump did not show up. I thought it was one of her worst moments. And I saw Lee do legacy forever. But that being said, has nothing to do with the question, Erica. It's just like, again,
Starting point is 01:06:00 that's why we're here. You guys coming to say, right, the question is why were you guys questioning so hard? And by the way, she did answer. She said that she didn't do any of that stuff. Yeah. You just didn't like the answer, right? But she did show up and answer.
Starting point is 01:06:13 And then she just stopped because you guys were not gonna take no for an answer. So you were not gonna take yes for an answer, I guess. So to be like, yes, you never answered questions. And Eric is like, that's not in my opinion, that's not even, you know, I mean, goes analogous. Fuck you too, I mean, or at least by me dinner before you try anal Jesus.
Starting point is 01:06:35 I don't know who Gus is and I'm not doing anal with them. So then Erica, now it's like sort of in between like before the scene starts up. Right? Because Erica's like on her phone. She's texting. Yeah. And then... Oh, I guess that's it, right? Because then it goes to Winnie from Anchorage.
Starting point is 01:06:52 So I guess they just saw her on their phone texting. So if anyone wants to know it was like to see Erica texting in a commercial break, that was your moment. Also, you know, just back to that previous segment for just one second, the question wasn't even to Erica. It was Rina. Why did you question all those people and not, why would you question Lisa Vanderpump like that but have no questions for Erica?
Starting point is 01:07:15 Wasn't even about you, Erica. God forbid. It's just one fucking question, it's not for you. But it's just such a facile response, right? Like, well, I show up. Okay, it's like like it has nothing to do that. It just sounds it sounds tough it sounds defined it sounds like so funny I show to all the time and I have not been nominated for an Oscar yet crazy so and he's like well
Starting point is 01:07:39 poo from Winnie says Erica Sutton was such a good friend of you. She flew the women out to Broadway to be you on a jet. America's like, yes, and that's why I don't understand why she flipped on me. Why did you flip on me? Like, again, present movie in the 50s. Yeah, I got to flip on me. Hi, honey. And Sun's like, well, you wouldn't talk to me about it. She says, you call me a liar. And call it goes, it's a long camera Sutton. It's a long camera. I'm like, I'm really, I'm like, yeah, on camera.
Starting point is 01:08:13 It's on camera. And then Erica's like, can somebody back me the fuck up? But what I'm saying, it's like, how can I back you? I mean, like, first of all they are. You have the most backing up cast. And because they're agreeing with you. What do you, they're all agreeing with you? Why are you mad?
Starting point is 01:08:32 And it sounds like I'm not saying. I didn't say those things. I'm just saying I wasn't trashy when I said those things. So Eric is like, why are you smiling at me Andy? And he's like, because you're a piece of work. Here's something else. I've never met anyone like you They're like wow that's saying a lot so Erica's like listen Okay, listen now Erica's Cool girl, man cool girl right like a guy's guys understand, guys, guys, I understand the story's wild.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Okay, the burglary. And car's flipping over. Well, one car flipped over. And you said, Tom, and then your son. Yes, my son wrote his car. Tom's was this way. It was the horse. It was vertical, and he was away from the car.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Wait, you found him after he was unconscious for 12 hours. It's mine. It's nine hours, because I went back and did the man. And is there a police report? A police song. A police song was playing on the clip. Bar the bar. The car went off a cliff bar. The extra protein just freaked out my out. Actually, John Ratson Merger was there. Cliff from Sheer's. He was there. Okay. But that was Cliff from Sheehrs. He was there, okay, but and there was a Cliff Bar. John Ratson Merger was eating a Cliff Bar, which was funny, it's Cliff eating Cliff,
Starting point is 01:09:53 that's a whole thing, Andy. And his ankle broke, it fell off, and anybody fell, right back on. After he fell. After his car was submerged in the ocean, and he died, stole a couple candlesticks from heaven, allegedly, and back to his car his hot air balloon which was overlooking cars see the sky on a freeway and then the craziest thing happened this little thing fell out the window and then Tom wild up in Steve Martin's body and he controls the left half. Steve Martin controls the right half. Oh, it was crazy. Oh, God, it's so crazy. So, um, so she didn't found them right. And she's like, no, no, no, no, no, look, here's what happened. I talked to him the night before at 9 p.m.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Okay. And he was leaving an event on the west side. And I talked to him again, get this at 6 a.m. Because the more, man time, we have a, we have a Gremlins household. So after midnight something is not right, okay? So I kept calling and calling and calling and there was no answer, no answer on that flip phone.
Starting point is 01:10:58 So then at 6 a.m. I didn't, I didn't call the police because that, that would be crazy, right? And especially having a son who's a police officer, the one thing I do know is that when something goes wrong, you don't call the police because that would be crazy, right? And especially having a son who's a police officer, the one thing I do know is that when something goes wrong, you don't call the police, okay? So then at 6 a.m., I decided to go to sleep, right? Because why should I be worried about my elderly husband missing in the middle of the night?
Starting point is 01:11:18 So I go to sleep and at 6 a.m., the phone rings and it's time and I'm like, where are you? And he says, I don't know where I am. And I thought he got dementia. And then I said, hey, he says I think I'm on the west side. And then the phone disconnects. And I'm like, he's been abducted. So then I call up.
Starting point is 01:11:35 I say, has anyone seen Liam Neeson? He needs to find my husband. And because did you do a fight by phone? She says, hey, I was a flip phone, Andy. Jesus Christ, hey, blah. So his flip phone kept its charge throughout the entire night. God, Andy, I can't tell you. I don't build phones.
Starting point is 01:11:54 I don't know how they work. So he calls back. And this time he knows where he is. And he says, I'm in the backyard. And I'm looking at the backyard. He's not, he's not the, I don't see anything. I, you know, it's snow with a snow is so thick, right? So I'm looking around. And. He's not he's not that I don't see anything. I know it's snow with a snow is so thick Right, so I'm looking around and he says I see a bridge and I said well enough about your mouth. Tell me where you are
Starting point is 01:12:13 And that told me he's a big band in London So we had to call accident. No, can I tell my story? I'm like, can you can you? And Grasov's like, this is why we don't want to ask you Just don't interrupt all right, so we go down we see the car. It's tilted, you know Tom is at the bottom of a well. It was all over the news old man who looks like a baby Stuck in a well. They're making a TV movie about it, but the change in his name to Jessica, so we can't sew them, Andy. And by the time they got him out of the well,
Starting point is 01:12:49 as he had got so long that you couldn't even see his face. And next thing you know, he's just running through TV and he's killing people, and I said, time. What's going on? What happened to you? Oh my gosh, okay, so she says we went down to him. So didn't she say at one point the sun came to help her with this too? Or no, no, no, that was for when he, no, the sun helped when, uh,
Starting point is 01:13:15 he was, when he was robbed. Oh, right. Because she said we saw, I don't know, maybe she was just with an employee or something. So basically you said he was missing for 12 hours and you were the one to find him. And now this is the new story, whatever it was. So he's like, but why did you say that he was allegedly unconscious for 12 hours? And she goes, well, I got in trouble
Starting point is 01:13:35 with the lawyers for talking too much, Andy. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ain't that funny. He's like, wow, she's listening. It's all unreal, it sounds unreal, but it's all true. And Kathy goes, allegedly, my ass start laughing. And then Andy says, why was it snowing where your son was?
Starting point is 01:13:52 Because listen, we're not gonna get him to that. Okay, like that lie was just so out there, I can't even defend that one. So let's just move forward, okay? Let's just focus on the fact that my child, not his children, was the one that checked on him and boarded up the house like okay That's good. So now you're gonna go slam his children Right, I'm like what does that have to do with anything? I got me that is nice of your son to do that
Starting point is 01:14:16 Especially because he brave that snowstorm Just because she's there so she's like okay, I'll slam his children to. And so he's like, well, I'll is a relationship with this children. She's way down speak clearly. This is a massive witch. No, which the salad. Cos' eating one is massive. Just look at that thing. Boy, oh. I was like, listen, I like blue cheese and I'm not in this reunion. It's a fuck off to read. I was like, listen, I like blue cheese and I'm not in this reunion. It's a fuck off to read. I got a lovely wedged shoe at cognitive decline. God, I love their clothes. So the end of it.
Starting point is 01:14:53 So I know we've covered this, but it's, you know, it's for hours, but it's the thing that everyone's pissed about. And we've got 19 more episodes of this reunion, so let's do it again. People equate everything you do, and the posts you make on Instagram, they equate it to the victims, and all they say is she should be doing something. And Erica says, you know how I can serve the victims best by cooperating in court, and by rolling at my sleeves and getting to the bottom of it, I'm like, isn't that what OJ Simpson said about like he's gonna spend every day
Starting point is 01:15:28 hunting for Nicole Brown's killer? So, do you? Also, you wouldn't turn over your financial records. The attorney had to force them and then they found all these hidden bank accounts and she wouldn't turn over records to those. So they had to subpoena them from the banks. And then she tried to sue to have a major case, the NFL case that Tom had kept with Tom, who she claims is incompetent. So she could keep the money from that, that
Starting point is 01:15:51 case to help her pay off this stuff and then take the remainder of the money, which she still thinks she is owed because of the divorce. So you're not really doing a whole lot to help the victims here. Ronnie, did you whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me.
Starting point is 01:16:10 You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me.
Starting point is 01:16:18 You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing a whole lot to help me. You're not really doing everything she can to help and that's not. And she's like, and so she says the way that she can help the victims is by cooperating and get like rolling up her sleeves and getting into it and
Starting point is 01:16:30 treats like, but gee, you could just say that darling. You could just say that. And it's just I just did. And like, but now you just said it now. Why aren't you saying this all along? And she goes, yeah, well, my lawyer said it. Look, Erica's cooperated. Erica's done everything she could. Well, Erica's also being sued day after day, all right? Okay, again, no question answered. And I'm glad your lawyer that your paying
Starting point is 01:16:59 gave good reviews on your behavior about now. I'll put you in. Well, you've answered every question by answer. I mean, the VATED every question and I thank you and I want to hear from the women now. Do you feel like you've heard everything you're wondering about and they clearly have many more questions? But Kyle's like, I really feel like you cleared up a lot about Tom's accident. So for that, thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Thank you. Oh, it's so clear. It is so clear. Everything is clear. It is so clear. Everything is clear. It's so clear. I feel like I just got my arbor scanned at the airport to get through a shorter line. You were that clear. All right. That counts. Like, you know, because those car flips and air goes, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a bit child. That was a much child.
Starting point is 01:17:40 And Kathy goes, listen, we're all ADD here. Okay. EFG. Get it letters. I was finding that Kathy said that because I feel like I've heard people of a different generation often just like, go there, well, they're all a little ADD.
Starting point is 01:17:56 So then, Garsell has no further questions. And fancy Drew and son's like, well, I asked all my questions face to face and it's nice to hear more clear answers. Well, answers at all. So thank you for answering or not answering. Crystal. And Crystal's like, now I'm fine. And Erica says, all right, well, you, Chris, I'm sorry, but you had a fun. Sorry about that. Crystal's like, oh, it's fine. I've been sleeping for about two hours over here at the end
Starting point is 01:18:24 of the couch. Have you noticed? I haven't said anything. And Andy says, well, the most important thing I heard was your expression and sympathy for the victims. Where was that? That we had to pull out of you reluctantly. Yeah, and he's like, I want, and you said you want them to get rectification I know for everybody that's what I say and can I say just one more thing? Thank you all for hearing me out today. This is not pretty. It's ugly. I'm well aware and I've been pressed and People have filled it in with the blinks, so I help you know in my side And I hope you know that this is not gonna be wrapped up easily and all I can do is put one foot in front of the other in front of my knee and then come
Starting point is 01:19:09 back and box step all back. Step by step day by day. And she goes, she also, by the way, says about the victims, the legitimate claims need to be taken care of, which is a very clever turn of phrase, the legitimate claims. It's a good way of preloading or defense there. So Kathy says, oh, I have something I want to say. I just want to apologize to Gorsal. It wasn't my fault I came to dinner. I wasn't allowed to come to your dinner. She didn did do that. What?
Starting point is 01:19:46 And this is, well, I was already safe from COVID, but I had that three day, and then I couldn't, so they wouldn't let me, you know, like ADD. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about that I accept your apology, Kai. But I wanna go back to your house and have more caviar pie, So you're exonerated.
Starting point is 01:20:06 So then now we're like in the final, like, wind down here. So Erica apologizes to Crystal again and Crystal, like, I've always been supporting you. I mean, like, you're bite it. You're biting when I defended liars and I get it. I bite my head off. It's okay. I don't know what Crystal was saying, but they were basically kind of just like smoothenthens over and then sons, sons like, hey, son, if you could redo one thing,
Starting point is 01:20:37 what would it be? And I love that son said, my conversation with Crystal, you know, thanks about just listening. I like that because, hey, that was the one thing that she should have redone and be, I love that she didn't say't say I would have I would have redone how I Approached Erica. I would have been nice to her. I love that she didn't give it to Erica She's like no I stand by how I approached the whole Erica situation and I I'm glad that right sudden stood behind herself She backed herself Yeah, so then he asked to read he says you're a mom Fascinating and a chatterbox. What do you want to be known for? Definitely the Cheetah Bulk.
Starting point is 01:21:09 I want to be a good mom, a good wife, a becheating back-end, a wedding dress designer. Kathy, what surprised you the most about joining the group and this experience? And she's like, well, I was surprised at how real it was. And you know, I mean, just to see all the years watching Kyle in the show, I thought, wow, my sister was, she is really a terrible, terrible person. But I think I bet it's all fake. And no, she, she's terrible. That's great to find that out for real. It's just really refreshing to know that
Starting point is 01:21:39 Kyle sucks as much on TV as she does in real life. That was fun. It's a good sisterhood, yeah. And Crystal, you had a rough entry and then you really loosened up and shared so much of yourself. You loosened up so much that you fell asleep for an hour here. What did it mean to you to have this group of friends? And she's like, well, it was a rough transition, but I always kept an open heart in mind.
Starting point is 01:22:03 And it was really nice. And it was nice the way it ended. And you know, when I had my speech at the Chinese News, all right, enough of that. You're not going to say something fun. Then we're going to move right on. Well, it is funny because like she's like, you know, that speech I gave at the end. Everyone's like, what? And she's like, yeah, you remember my speech?
Starting point is 01:22:21 That really rang true. I was like, okay, another person who gives himself glowing reviews. You'll fit right in here. Everyone's like, yeah, you remember my speech? That really rang true. I was like, okay, another person who gives himself glowing review. You'll fit right in here, honey. So, let's be like, we don't remember it. Yeah, Andy's like, really? We saw a ship in you. We'll see, we're in a, wow, we're in a,
Starting point is 01:22:36 and she's like, well, I didn't know how it would go today. Last year, I felt like there wasn't a resolution. And I said, I'm not gonna do that with Gord Cell. I'm gonna attack her viciously for no reason, then sit on her lap. Buh-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah-hah strong opinions about you. So who do you, what do you hope people take away? Nothing. I don't have anything left. You can't take away anything from me, okay? It's just Tiago, just Tiago and me. No, no, no. It's an expression. Slang if you will. Oh, slime. I got it. Well, first of all, I would like to thank the great chorus because without you, Zorna the musical wouldn't have been anything. So thank y'all for everything you do.
Starting point is 01:23:26 And I would just like to say I came with an open heart. I honored my commitments and I then all I can do. It's like, wow, congratulations. You punched in. Do you want a fucking award? It's like so to 2021 to think you deserve a raise just for fucking showing up. So Andy's like Kyle with Kathy or Kyle. Who cares? It was nothing. Kyle's just sending it. Kyle Patrick thinks up.
Starting point is 01:23:49 So now, at the season. Patrick and Carlos bring Martinez. I thought it was gonna be hot Toddies. I was a little disappointed that it wasn't, but yeah, Patrick, other guy come out. They've got Martinez. And he's like, wow Patrick, I'm glad you weren't so traumatized by the scuba ladies that you couldn't come back into the fray.
Starting point is 01:24:07 And he goes, how could I be traumatized with eight beautiful ladies? I'm tired. No. Aw. Um, and then Eric was like, I apologize, honey, I apologize. See you, bye. And then it's a fake martini because Kathy does the bottoms up, ladies, which it cracks me up that Kathy had the smallest role on this whole season But the set is based on Kathy. Yes, the final drink is based on Kathy and Kathy's fucking staff comes out for about at the end so funny
Starting point is 01:24:39 Bravo. No, they all people care about sometimes they chug it and I cannot believe Erica didn't get the last line because Erica would not let anybody have a segment in this whole thing. But um, Andy's like, wow, Chris is leaving you chugged it and she goes, I'm a bartender. And that was the last time. Don't you remember? I mentioned that in my final speech. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Wow, that was a season that Beverly Hills has actually done ladies and Andy or whoever we're going to do without just spewing the same commentary after week after week about Erica. Like, what are we going to do not getting ourselves angry without about her? Oh gosh, Housewives, it always is like this at the end.
Starting point is 01:25:22 It's like the same thing, especially Beverly Hills, the same thing. And by the end, it's just, it's exhausting. I mean, this, it'll be nice not taking three hours worth of notes every week. That's for dancer, but it was a great season, loved watching it. Yeah, although we do have four weeks of Potomac reunion now, so yeah, keep on rolling. Oh, yeah. Here we go, everybody. But yeah, super, super fine. You guys,
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