Watch What Crappens - RHOBH: The Mascara'd Singer

Episode Date: July 15, 2021

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Ronnie, Karim, what's up Ronnie? Hi, how are you? I'm good thank you. He is, I would say he's a giant amongst men, but he's actually more of a jack, because he wants to play jack and into the woods is what I found out. The diamonds in the sky. We were just singing into the woods together before we started this. Sorry, everybody. Sorry, you had to be part of that, but guess what happens. It's really an homage to Burned at Peters who who received an Emmy nomination this week. Did she? No, for what? Just her own

category, they just invented it. There was like, and the award for best Burn It Up Peters goes to the best Burn It Up Peters. Burn It Up Peters. The award for the best usage of a wig long term is Burn It Up Peters. Literally has the same wig every day for 90 years. Like, that woman is outlasted Lisa Rina. And the award for doing the Witches Wrap at a McDonald's goes to Burnup Peter. Try to order some greens greens greens greens another Mac greens. Why are you pepperers capitals and celery. It's very good. Some water cruts and fiddle prints and let us sit all right, but it wasn't quite, because I got them in the autumn and my garden, my mind. Mm-hmm. It's like, man, we don't tell any of those things.

You just want fries. Sure. No, she was, I think she got an Emmy nomination for Zoe's incredible playlist, maybe as a guest actress, I think. Wow. Yeah, she's got a lot of stuff. Burn a deck.

We also didn't talk about the fact that below deck, so below deck and selling sunset got Emmy nominations for unstructured reality show, which is huge. You know, I've always said that Roni should get some sort of Emmy love. And if it can't be a housewives, I think below deck getting a full-fledged Emmy thing

is really cool. And selling sunset, that's really cool. Basically, it's the reality shows that straight people have decided are okay to watch. You're right. You know? You're right, yes. Basically, if there's like, bros out there,

they're like, actually, I kind of like that show. It's always like, it's always, whenever you talk to a guy, a straight guy, this is not an anti-stray guy rant, but it's just a fact that whenever you talk to a straight guy, if they watch reality TV, they're always like, actually, I watched that show on the yacht, I'm like below deck. Yeah, with like Captain Sandy and Malia and Jack, I don't, it's like, you know everything

about it. Stop acting like you don't. Yeah. So it's below deck regular flavor that got the nomination. It actually was below deck regular flavor. I'm selling sunset. I think RuPaul was in competition. There's some others, there's LeBron James's shows in there. I forget the others off top of my head, but the ones that I don't know.

I do have to say selling Sunset though. I mean, we love it. I support it 100%. It's a great, it's actually really well made. I mean, all right. It really happens on it and they make a compelling enough. We are sitting watching a girl in an office say, is there a, how do you spell CooT? CooT.

Yeah. Top chef also. Top chef also got a nomination and our dear friends Pad McAllen, top nominated for Best Reality TV host. Hmm. So. Well, good for everybody. Good for everyone.

So, this is K. Congratulations, Bernadette. Congratulations. Congratulations to also anyone who is watching this on Krapits on demand. You're getting quite an episode today. Um, it is. It is.

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So this is a little late. But speaking of Emmys, Erica James. This is Spoken of Emmys. This is Erica James, big Emmy nomination episode, where she's really going to town, trying to convince us that she knows nothing, she knew nothing, she's a total victim. And guess what?

She's a much better actress than I've ever given her credit for because even I was like, I was kind of, I was back. I was back. I was back. Yeah. I mean, I felt bad because even if it's like when you watch a lot of

murder shows, okay? And I'm not comparing anything Tom and Eric at a actual murder, but I just watch a lot of those shows, a lot of mystery shows. And they make it through where the bad guys kind of the one that you understand by the end just because you've seen them, the whole movie or whatever, and they're crying, you're like, oh my God, and then you have to remind yourself, that's the murderer, Ron, you're crying for, you

know, it's like they trick you by making you cry for the wrong people, and I feel like that. I'll just be honest by the end of it, by the end of that scene where she's like sobbing in the park, I was like, no, am I buying this? And then I had to think of it. I had to think of it overnight and then I got inflamed all over again.

I was like, no, man, you will not get me, man. You will not get me. You know, I'm such a sucker for that stuff like you know I'm the most gullible person. I'm like, well, I don't know like this Ted Bundy guy He see I know that it's he confessed to killing these people, but I don't know I'm not sure it was him anymore I have an uncle named Ted my love ham and he wouldn't come when he buddy So there's that pretty much.

There's that movie called Ted. I mean, I don't know. He's a teddy bear. He's a literal teddy bear who says the F word. I mean, what is cuter than that? Yeah, I'm such a pushover. It's so sad. But yeah, this is the big, the big Erica episode.

So, but before we get to the Erica episode, the Erica part, we thought to deal with some old news here, which is, or old business, which is the case of Crystal and her leather pants. And the ugly leather pants. So, Sutton has just said, Jellies of what? Your ugly leather pants. And stormed off, and Kyle says, going,

Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. She just said ugly pants. She just said ugly, another pants. Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. And girl says like, sudden, sudden, come here for a second, come here for at least it's like sit to have son, sit to have a baby, she made a body wage, sit down in the body,. Cut to crystal sitting alone, just laughing. Just like, what the, who are these people, you know? So Erica and Rinna have Sutton and Erica's like, It's all kind of made me.

Breathe. Just breathe. Just breathe. Like my, like my girlfriend, Faith Hill says, just breathe. Just breathe. So Sutton calms down a little bit and she's like, I did not handle that. Okay, okay. It's okay.

It's okay. It's okay. So, Crystal is the only one not with the group and a waiter comes up and is like, um, can I get you something to drink? She's like, um, I think someone else probably needs a drink right about now, but I'm fine. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, so, so, so, something comes over or back over,

just, I'm sorry, you know what, that was wrong of me, okay? That was wrong of me. I think they were plethora pants, no, not her pants. As she tells us that. So, Garcell comes up to Crystal and she's like, Garcell, I mean, what am I supposed to do? Like, I'm a little shocked about all of this. She's like, oh, you know, you just came down smiling,

but look, I'm always going to be honest with you, you know, from one tasteful leather skirt to a pair of tasteless leather pants, I'll just say this. Listen to the blue fur on my sleeves. When I say it was the word violated, I think that threw people for a loop. Yeah. And crystals like, well, that's the word I use. I'm not going to take back the word. I used it correctly. She crossed the line. And Garcell, Garcell's like, I think that that crystal needs to bend a little bit, you know, to be like, hey, you know, like I felt violated by understanding what there's no bad intention, but Crystal has no intention of doing that whatsoever.

Yeah, so Rinna's like, can we just go sit down now and have a cocktail? We can share feelings. We can share feelings. Feelings about Harry's bowling makes a sense. Okay, from Posey Toronto. So Erica, Erica's now sitting with Crystal. She's like, okay, you can't egg her on, but what you can do is throw some eggs at her. Oh, God, it's hilarious watching Sunday Void Eggs. Oh, do that. Do that. And Kathy's like, okay, we're going to need everybody to sit down.

We're going to need everybody to please take their seats. And so we see, we hear someone ordering hot toddies over there. There's like a whole round of hot toddies coming out now because Erica is a disease. Okay, the spreads. She spreads from one house to another. Needs to be hot toddy the way, I guess. So the girls all gather around on this orange bench

and sounds like crystal, apologize for talking badly about your pants I think they're very cute actually and to read it's like well you know when you insult someone's outfit that's below the belt and see that's the plan words belt because talk about pants which are literally below the belts. So Eric is like listen my name everybody everybody likes, for everybody else, all right, but he's something's on some questionable show. Which is true, she's currently wearing some questionable shit, which is why this is hilarious.

Suddenly, often looks like she walked outside, covered in Elmer's glue, and there was a wind storm and everything in the street just swept up onto her and just stayed. She does. She looks like the sale aisle of a Michaels. You know, so Kyle's like, you know what? Hate to start trouble because I know we don't want to bring this up again. But, Sutton was uncomfortable and in tears and wanted to leave.

Can we talk about that again? Oh, can I have a hot violated, please? I'm not violated. That's okay. Not violated. Crystal says, well, did something I say trigger it? And so I guess, no, just your presence. It's like, okay, my presence.

Yeah. Yeah, okay, my presence. So, set, set and says, gas, it's hard for me to be here and be with you. Because you make judgments about me without even knowing me And she's like well, you know that line when someone shows you who they are believe them That's all okay, you've got a problem with it Call my aunt Lou, okay ring up heaven and call my aunt Lou because this is not my deal. It's not my problem It's yours and something, why are you constantly made?

And Crystal says, you know what, you're upset because you want me to apologize for something that you did, and I will not apologize for your actions. And so, I was like, get your finger out of the air. That's because you are an inappropriate, awkward person, period, and everyone's like, oh, like she just said something about somebody's pants To read's eyes flare like

It appropriate awkward person is about as corrective an assessment of sudden asking me Yeah, and Chris just like oh, and then you want to cry and get empathy. Sorry. You're not gonna get it trust me She was okay number one. I'm not crying to get empathy I was crying because I wanted to leave well then leave It's obnoxious and Garosel's like okay put on your big girl panties and Kathy goes the high-waisted ones Could you just tell her what you need so we can move on? Just you? I have hurt me in a lot of ways. Manic is a bit much. She goes, okay, it was. Kind of gonna need that one retracted. She goes, no, I'm not taking that one back. Just

smirk. No, no, I'm not going to. No, no, because I was halfway to saying that you're like manic panic. I will not be referred to as some temporary hair dye. I shall not. That's taking back to you, please. Well, I think manic was offensive because she had confessed to you that I've bothered committed suicide. And he was manic, honey. Now look, this is my dad earth Erica, so I'm gonna wink at you while stand up for someone look at that. What does person know anything about Robert is stealing? And so they're on listen I'm so sick of this it's like the one who cries the loudest is supposed to be the one apologize to. It's old this shit was already dropped saying okay it's already over you're the one re-sobbing

about it because you forgot to bring it to your gift, okay? Yeah, crazy. Exactly, that's what it is. Screaming and crying. That's why she is deranged right now. So, Crystal says, okay, I take back that you're manic and I'm sorry that you feel bad that I said it. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Everybody goes, don't say it unless you believe it. Just the way I believe it, we're in posi-tano garzaa. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry if everybody here remembers me saying Kim is near death Listen I applaud crystal because the non-apology apology while infuriating for All of us and for the cast members. That's that's the mark of a real housewife. So congratulations, Crystal. You have done your first non-apology biology. It's also something they've all worked through again. So to put her, you know, under fire again at another group event, to ruin another group event with your sobby little tears

when you guys have already solved this is not cool. It's not fair. So I'm Team Crystal firmly in this argument. I am Team Crystal too. And even though let's not forget, because some people are sort of conflating these two issues, the answer is yes, Crystal did give this thing a lot of life initially,

when she said she didn't want it, she said, oh, I'm not going to talk about it, and then she told, talked about it to every single person, but then it was put to bed. And it was actually Kyle who brought it back and now it's Sutton who is, who is giving it a live. It's, Crystal has put it to bed. It's been put to bed twice. It was put to bed at the election party thing and in front of everybody and then it was put together to bed again at the hotel party where they got together for afternoon tea or whatever

the fuck that was like every episode is but I'm mad leave it in bed. I also don't want to hear people saying I'm so sick at the storyline because people cannot stop talking about it online. So you know it clearly crazy people are into this even though no one wants to admit they're into this like oh this is just a fight about opening the door But literally everyone is trying to you all go literally crazy is hilarious So Ben posted this Instagram of crystal just smiling like with a big goofy smile on her face And the background keeps changing to like miserable things. It's like war and she's still smiling I'm just being I'm just having fun I just pause the TV in like a random spot,

and she just looked crazy, and like, and how appropriate that the caption I used was manic of all the words to use. I said, I thought I was being, I was like, here's Crystal looking manic, and then now of course it's, it's an argument about manic. Oh my God, people are still fighting on that thread.

It's like a days and days later, and people are still going crazy about like, but you knock on the door, I shouldn't have to knock on the door and it's just like, I mean, this is the crazy one. This is the crazy shit and it really is like old days of housewives where these were the fights that people were going nuts over on the internet and I'd like to say, thank you because it's like classic days of housewives. And I appreciate that. I appreciate the feeling.

Yeah, well, because these are fights that are actually as much as everyone says that they're sick of them, they're like deeply relatable because we've all had the fight over some petty shit. Where someone walked in on us or something like that or something akin to it where it's like, actually, you should follow this social grace. No, but like you shouldn't have been so sensitive, just because it's only a social grace and now we're all in it and people are going crazy on it. And and Crystal herself even commented, what she says she was basically like, Rob is a very lucky man or something. And then people

comment to her like fuck you Come on guys, geez. I think it's great to have a very strong opinion on this But I also but I don't think like is this the is this the hill that you want to like die on with your trolled him Like is this how you want it? You're like you know what today? I decided I'm gonna be a troll and I'm gonna troll about Crystal being upset that someone walked in on her naked Fuck you you died of bitch you died of bitch. Oh, that felt good I'm gonna be a troll and I'm gonna troll about crystal being upset that someone walked down on our neck and fuck you You died a bitch. You died a bitch. Oh, that felt good. I was waiting for the right moment. I mean listen We're not even throwing stones because that's literally what we do all day long So yeah, I think we're still talking about it too. Hello, but wow

That's crazy. Yeah, it's a funny. The internet is funny. Okay, so Kathy is like well We don't want to ever feel like we're pushing someone over the edge, you know, like Stick first of all Kathy, you're the fucker who keeps bringing this up So don't sit there acting like what we should be nice to the crazy lady, which is basically what she's saying when she starts at every single time Yeah, yeah, we don't ever feel like We never want to feel like we're pushing someone over the edge, unless of course that person decides to produce a television show based on your family, which point you then ice them out of the entire

all-group situations, that's okay then. And then Jeff, that's a good stuff. Yeah, that's really mixed up. And Kragas, do you mean messed up? My sister is hilarious, isn't she? She got mixed up and messed up. We're doing an Instagram live about this to my.

Yeah, Kyle is totally like now that Kathy is so popular. Kyle is firmly like latching on to being like this my sister. My sister, my sister, totally Instagram fan vampiring off of her sister. You know, just like she has her entire life off of her sisters. There's Kyle just like lapping up any glory she can get off of Kathy. He he he.

So, so anyways, everyone says, okay everyone, stay in the moment, move on. And Sonny goes, and lock your door. And then everything winds up all right. They just wind up sort of, sudden says she's happy to move on and... I mean, it's gonna come back.

Yeah, that's laughing, which is fun. Yeah, so hopefully we're finally done with this. And so it does feel like, oh, like a nice sigh of relief. Like, finally we're done with this. Commissions, here comes one right now. Raising kids can be one of the greatest rewards of a parent's life. But come on, someday, parenting is unbearable.

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she's saying, you know how like when you don't feel good and you're emotional, I just feel so depressed and they're all looking at it like, mm-hmm. But meanwhile, you know this was just footage from a time when she got a hang mail. It just is that, like this works, this works for right now too. I think some of this episode, Lisa ran out,

like had to do something or wasn't available. And they're like, okay, Lisa, you can record it at a different time. Just sit there on your webcam doing this. Is terrible. That is awful. You don't deserve this. And then they just spliced it into everybody else's scenes.

Also Kyle, get your own Zoom account. Stop using Maurizios. You're like a famous person. You're a famous person who is like attached to the Hilton's, okay, and you only have to like real estate here or real estate listings in Los Angeles. You can get your own zoom account, Kyle. So then we see silence. Or we hear silence and we see silence or we hear silence and we see the silent town and then a jogger walking past a or a jogging past an empty park bench. It's December 2nd. My second week into quarantine. Ooh, my sister's birthday is on the capital, the capital, whatever they call that, the insurrection or whatever. That was my sister's birthday dinner. That was fun.

or whatever. That was my sister's birthday dinner. That was fun. Oh, so it's very sad and Greisler on FaceTime now. And Greisels like, well, have you been on social media or anything? Something broke out today about her and Tom being sued. And she's like, wow, this is even on Fox News. It's huge. Gursals like, it's everywhere. Just want America to know I did not get this from Fox News. I don't read Fox News, go sudden. So when we cut back to Rina, I'm really like, they're saying Tom and Puzzled Money from victims of a plane crash.

And seeing Erica's name involved in that, it is, you didn't deserve this. Shocking, you didn't deserve this. Shocking. And Doree says, I'll let you do the Doree thing, since. The Ashtead Lans make McRinge harder than PK did. That time I told him a cucumber was a snickers bar.

From it all over the Gavanshi Sour Curtin. We did, orphans, that's a punch in the gut and it's says is this the tip of the iceberg I don't know I I I wanted to know more but the iceberg was behind a door and I was afraid to open it so Kyle tells us I have no idea what's true or not but I have to keep an open

mind and say, innocent till proven Lucy Lucy apple juice because I'm going based on the person I know. And you know what, at least she didn't call Radar in line about it. I know. All of a sudden Kyle, Kyle is innocent until proven guilty. All of your students. All of a year. Yes, just how she extended that to Lisa Vanderpump and Denise Richards. Yeah. And it's an until proven guilty. Yep.

So then two days later, Erica, Kyle and Renair are now talking. And Erica's doing the princesses long island thing where she's like sitting right on her bed so her background's the headboard. And she's like, Look at my in jogging pants. People who haven't done anything wear jogging pants ladies. When you live in basically a cement igloo, you just gotta wear jogging pants.

So the things that are being said that just wrong. People are believing that man is terrible and I'm here by myself and this scene is trying a little shack with a pool and an outdoor area and three bedrooms. And I'm here by myself. And people are saying my divorce is a sham. No one cares about the facts anymore. The facts machine that is, I took that. So I'm supposed to be hiding assets now. I'm really going to go,

I mean, how do you even do that? How do you hide assets? Really, you being from Beverly Hills, you don't understand how frozen assets work and hiding assets and community versus personal property work. Really, none of you have ever heard of this. In Beverly Hills, probably the divorce capital of you have ever heard of this. And Beverly Hills, probably

the divorce capital of the world. Okay. Okay. I'll tell you on this, guys. I don't, I don't believe the divorce is a sham at all, to be honest. I really don't. I think that you think it is. Oh, yeah, 100% because it happened right when all of this started going down. So she's trying to get her, all of her stuff separated from the business stuff, right? So she says, we're getting divorced and this is my personal property. It's not Tom's personal property. But then Tom supposedly put 20,000, or 20 million dollars into her business accounts. So she's separating that and saying, this is not property that can be seized because it's my personal property. And we're in the middle of a divorce

so you can't seize my stuff in his business. You see, although the judge last week said, actually yes. But, well, the judge said that they can start looking for assets because she wasn't turning over any of her records. Like, they kept the bankruptcy lawyers or requesting her records and trying to follow the money trail

through her accounts and she was just refusing and she filed a motion saying she shouldn't have to do any of that because they're getting divorced and then they said no you're you're you profited from it so and your name is on all these documents and blah blah blah so now they have permission to at least look through all that stuff. See I guess my my angle was more like, she married Tom. It was all about Tom. Tom had the money. It seemed like the whole basis of their relationship was the money.

She basically says as much. Like, she can't say anything. Everything's about him. And really, he's just there to fund her money. At a certain point, whatever the relationship was when they got married, at some point, that relationship just became about the being about the money and then like when it was clear that the money was about to go away She's like fuck this. I'm not sticking around anymore So that's why I was like I don't think it's a sham because I think she just realized there's if there's like literally no upside

anymore and I'm about to lose everything then yeah fuck. I'm getting out of this thing Well, I'm sure that that's part of it too.. Well I'm sure that that's part of it too. It could be a little bit too close. Yeah I'm sure that that's part of it too. But I think that Tom's helping her. I mean I think that they're hiding assets because I think Tom is like well I'm fucked. You know put this money in your, it's not like he just accidentally put 20 million dollars into her under a loan or whatever.

You know so I think Tom's probably like here that, you'd be safe over there and all get screwed or whatever. Cause he screwed. Like there's nothing he's gonna do. And I wanna also say that as Judgy is like and about Erica, it's because Erica's on this show, Tom is the fucking criminal here. I don't think that Erica's like literally going to orphans and like taking money out of there.

Yeah, I agree. I don't think, now that like literally going to orphans. And like taking money out of there. Yeah, I agree. I don't think, now that's a possibility that she is, where she's like, oh, what, they're gonna try and take our money for the sauce suit. Well, fuck that Tom, you better get a loan and cover this shit. No, no, no, no, no. And it is possible that I'll sell.

I love the sell. And you know, I'm like, I get, I get there's different angles, but right now, I'm just saying, it just looks pretty shady. Yeah, no matter what it looks shady, I think for me, my issue is more along the lines of, I don't know her culpability in this whole mess, but it's just this thing of like,

this marriage always seems questionable, and she would always be like, no, it's not questions. Like, no, I love them, I love them, I love them, you know? And now all of a sudden, it's like, no, it's not questions, like, no, I love them, I love my love them, you know? And now all of a sudden, it's like, no, I don't. And it's very, you know, it is like, I understand that too, like, that's a very real thing in a relationship that you're almost outwardly projecting that it's good,

that way, you know, because you're sort of trying to convince yourself that it's good. But, um, I don't know, I think it was. Yeah, within their stuff, like last season, with Denise when Aaron was, you know, when Erica kept trying to start it up with Aaron again after Aaron had a fit at that barbecue and was such a disrespectful asshole, which he was, but then Erica, when they were at Sutton's, Sutton store party and Erica waited for Denise to go to the bathroom or whatever.

So she could start having the conversation with Aaron and then they had that whole thing. And she was like, well I would never let a man talk to me like that. That's bullshit. She's with a man like that because I would never. No man would ever disrespect me like that. Right. It starts. Yeah. So to go from that and I'm like one year to this, which is, you know,

I think that's it. It was so made the way. And that you and like later on when she says Well, there was there was a lawsuit and I said what's going on and he said I'm taking care of it I said, but what he has Erica. It's none of your business and then she was just like cool with that and I cried and I'm Med and she said something like that, but he wouldn't tell me it's like you could have Googled because that's what I did so come on well either way so um so Erica's like you know it took a lot of courage to leave and it takes two seconds for some asshole to say it was a sham I'm like excuse me ma'am do do not drag us into this. Don't drag the resident assholes into this. It has taken us a very long time to call this a sham, okay?

We have, we've based us on several seasons of empirical evidence, okay? I am working hard to call this a sham, ma'am. I'm on the Google every day, I'm day, to call this a sham. And she's like, oh, when I filed this divorce, I was a gold dicker, but then this week, I'm a conspirator. It's like, oh, when I filed this divorce, I was a gold dicker. But then this week, I'm a conspirator. It's like, well, both things can be true, Erica.

You know, so Kyle asks, well, were you totally in the dark? I mean, what's the situation here? And she's like, you have to remember that it's the firm they're suing. And then they drag me into the things with the firm. Because you're taking millions of dollars from the firm. So the producers like, how did you first find out about the lawsuit? I can't answer that.

And then, okay, well, you're not a lawyer. Why are you named in a lawsuit about this legal career? Because I didn't know I'd be named in a lawsuit that I'm not part of. I don't get it, you know, just... I have nothing to do with it. So, Kyle says, well, what's the worst that can happen in America? Like, criminal charges.

And it really goes, but not for you. Not for you. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am, for her as well. And so, Rinna is like, well, it could be a criminal investigation. She's like, right, you know, because when you alleged something like that,

she shrugs like, if they alleged it, then they might look into it. And Kyle, Kyle, who just is there for the good gossip. I mean, that's so what she wants, but she wants to pretend like she actually cares. She's, does this mean I can't even say it. I can't even say it. But just saying, you're going to L.J. is this mean you're going pink is the new black if you will. I can't say it. I can't say it. She can't bring herself to just say, are we poor, sweetie? I'll be poor. You can be a poor friend of mine. So Erica's like, well, it means a lot of things. It's just fucked up. I've got more lawyers and I could fucking afford and Carls like, but doesn't he have to pay for the lawyers since this is all his things. She goes, no, I'm the least of his worried and he hasn't given me one

dime since I walked out that door. So it's all on me. Well, why would he? You left him in the fucking middle of the night and never called him again. You left love to miss of 11 where he was confused. I didn't know how to get home. Why would you do it, John? What does she do? That would be so amazing. That's what it is. So then she gives us the, you know, to be all on your own and have millions of dollars in lawsuits, throw it at you and have the one person

who got you here, watch his hands of you. You watched your hands first, ma'am. Okay, so, and I don't blame you really on that. You know, see, this is where I start. I can't just see someone crying, then. I see someone cry because normally on housewives shows, it's like fake, you know, it's like a leo cry. Like, where it's not real, and I don't fall for it.

But when I see real tears, especially coming out of something like Erica, I mean, even I start to kind of feel. So I'm like real and I don't fall for it. But when I see real tears, especially coming out of something like Erica, I mean, even I start to kind of feel. So I'm like, yeah, all right, well she should've gone then. No, we should get tommens. She should've gotten out of that marriage a long time ago, a long, long, long time ago. And that's where I'm conflicted because the pragmatist in me wants to say, like, he treated you like shit

and there was no love in this marriage. It was obvious to anyone who watched the show, and that's why I was always under question. And even though you're only in it for the money, like don't you have any sort of self-respect, like make yourself happy, like leave. That's what the pragmatist says. But the realist in me knows that people stay

in bad relationships way longer than they ever should, which is why I do feel bad for her because I think that this is what she's coming to realize in a very sudden quick time. Like sometimes you do need just like a catalyst of a federal lawsuit to make you realize, fuck, I stay too long in this shitty relationship and now I'm about to actually get dragged down into something I don't want to be because I was like too scared to do anything about it. Um, yeah, I don't, yeah, I don't look at it in the same, yeah, I don't look at it in the same way.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, I thought you were, I know, but then you say, but then you say, but then you say all of that and I hear it and I'm like, no, that sounds like bullshit because she, you know, I'm not saying shoot the happy relationship. I think it's just putting two things together. Like it's Tom a grumpy old man and rude and probably doesn't let her talk back. Yes, we know that. We've seen that on the show. But it's like Erica kind of sold her soul for all of this.

She got what she wanted and when the money ran out, she was out of there. It's like, while all this stuff was happening and lawsuits are coming and it's publicized, it's not like it was a secret to her that he's being sued for misappropriating funds and she knows he's taking up multi-million dollar loans because she's signing on the loans and she knows that money's coming into her account. So she knows all this stuff is going on. I don't know if she knows the specific details of who's getting fucked over or all that, but I don't think it was just as I don't think it's as she's presenting it as like, he was just emotionally not available to me.

It's obviously, I mean, just how everything's happening is just obviously the money. But then I see this, I'm like, but even if she did do that, and she's married to an old rich guy who's saying, listen honey, you know, it's nothing, don't worry, but it's a lawsuit, I'm a lawyer,

it's normal, just take this money, put it over there And you trust that even if he is shady and even if he is stealing from orphans and widows that he's still gonna take care of you and make sure you're okay. So when he keeps saying Nothing's gonna go wrong. I've taken care of it and then you realize this fucker hasn't taken care of it at all It's become this huge, you know Millions upon, tens of millions of dollars worth of debt. I'm fucked. That's why I say she stayed too long.

I think she just believed Tom for too long that he was taking care of it and he really didn't. So yeah, I do think that she stayed in it too long, but I'm coming from more of a financial sense kind of place. Well, no, she did stand it. I guess the thing that's also, I guess a place well no she did stand it I guess the thing that's also I Guess sort of frustrating is that she spent a lot of time on this show Not like technically a lot of time, but she's made statements over and over again But like yeah, well, I'm out of guy was 30 years old of the man. That's great. Oh, yeah. I'm out of this great

It was great. It's great. It's great. It's like it was never great. It wasn't great at all and yet you were like it was great, it was great, it was great. And it's like, it was never great. It wasn't great at all. And yet you were like, I don't know. I guess it just, it reads as dishonesty, and but maybe there's like, I don't know if I should falter for that because, you know, she was in a miserable situation.

I can I really be mad at her for trying to speak, speak it into truth. I'm very conflicted about this. I don't know where to stand. But then I come back to talk my way, and to talk my way, to sort it out in my brain by talking it out loud, and all I'm doing is talking into circles, and I start wanting. It's like getting to our fused.

And then I disagree with myself as I talk and probably can be so much more. Yeah, as you talk, I remember conversations that we've had in the past seasons, where it's kind of sticking up for Erica, where it's like, okay, she's with this older guy. And yeah, I don't get it. I don't want to be with this old grumpy man yelling at me and, you know, acting like a grandpa, but she does. And he really supports her as

given her all this career and this opportunity. And she's appreciative of that. And like she said in the past, how she had a son and she was just this waitress trying to make it. And he believed in her and he puts, and then you see him at all the concerts and his eyes just gleaming because he's so proud which she mentions later on in this episode. And it's like, okay, but I have kind of believed that all these years and thought, well, okay, it's a non-traditional relationship, but like who's gonna judge that? I'm sure she does love that he's got zillions of dollars and I'm sure he does love that she's just some young hot piece of ass in a way but they've made it work into this actual relationship that stays together forever.

So the full on throwing him under the bus, that's where I get a little like, I get that Tom's a huge criminal and I'm throwing him under the bus. I think he's full on the bus. You mean you? Well, we should but with her, I'm like, I think, I don't know. I think that she should too because if he's being a dick, and she always put up with these dick things, because he supported her, and then he stops even supporting her,

and then on top of that gets her into all this shit, where now she has the two of us sitting here on our podcast, weighing in on a situation that we don't even have any first hand knowledge of, like that does suck, so fuck Tom, and she should be pissed at him, and that's where I've decided I am right today, that she should be pissed at Tom, and her cul I've decided I am right today. That she should be pissed at Tom and her culpability in the situation, I'm not sure,

but where I do get angry and I do maintain this, what I don't like is her playing this like, oh, what was me and my tiny little shack, that I do not like. That's not right. That's you're not a tiny shack, okay? You just stop that. Right. I can't want her to own her shit more. I think that's not right. That's, you're not a tiny shack, okay? You just stop that. Right.

I can't want her to own her shit more. I think that's the thing. I think where I get frustrated is that so much of the persona that she has developed and so much of how she talks and the thing she talks about and her TED talks and her emoji thing, whatever it was, is like just own your shit, everything to everyone. Just own your shit, just own your shit, everything to everyone, just own your

shit, just own your shit. And I'm not saying own your shit because you're a criminal. I'm saying, you know, you were actually in a bad marriage. And like if you were in it, if you're just hanging in there just for the money, own that. It's really Rina. I'm turning into Rina. But for real, if you're gonna act like you're someone who's saying just like, be who you are and be what you're all about, then be about the fact that you, like, you were in it for the money with them in the marriage, and then, and the money ran out and you were adduped, and you were betrayed, and you said, fuck it.

And so now you've like taken what you can, you have a nice house in Hancock Park, but don't start doing the, oh, I'm in my own little shack or whatever, just it feels inauthentic, and I think that coupled with a sense that she does self-produce, and she only gives us dribs and drabs, makes it seem like she's calculating,

whether or not she is, we don't know, but it gives that sense, and when we feel like someone's calculating, we react angrily. Yes. Okay, so five, so Erica insists, Rinna's like, we know you didn't do this. We know you Erica. We know you and Erica's like, I didn't do this. And so then five days later, Erica is sweeping. So I was like, really? So now you're There is a castle all around the crown. There is a castle in Pasadena. Look at that. I'm in the Hancock Park, man. Hey, there you go.

It's a hot, not life. There's life. I don't know the rest of the mix. I was hoping you'd just... For us. For us. I thought it was a hard not life. This life.

For Christ's sake. Okay, so... I like to keep... I'll stick with into the woods, okay? Well, this is sheep, you know, but then she... Oh, no! Ron, it does not accept, does not approve. I do approve of Ag me being used right now. I'm just kidding. So, one way the Erica is super relatable is she's sweeping outside and she's like,

this is a never-ending fucking project. Yeah, because you're sweeping the outside, okay? I've never understood that. Never, since I was a little kid. I'm then just to really, really bring it home. Then to really bring it home, we see her like fiddling with a laundry machine door. She's like, oh, look at me I've got a watch and machine too wow they don't make refrigerators like they're used

to so you're not supposed to squat inside the door well does anyone understand how to turn this oven on it's your door there's, it's a space on the other side. So, some of the rhythm comes over with croissants, the customary Rina, like, greeting gift, greeting pastry, and Crystal joins too. And Erica's like, well, welcome to my unfinished little bungalow, the house is about small. You can't, hey, I have to crouch

because you're gonna hit your head on the ceiling It's basically a crawl space with a bed inside of it. It's like no, it's not Erica And Chris goes Chris goes it's not small Yeah, thank you. I see a girl Like please. I'm also like that the huge dog Comes over and like leans like that's that's the dog thing where it just comes over to and leans on you Which I think is so funny. So he's leaning on Erica. It's like is he getting on your nerves because I can create him Stop leaning on everybody. I'm like hmm

Well, this is so shabby. This dog actually supports one of the roofs It's a little bit of dog. Um, so let's see here. Um, they'll go outside and we're gonna say, Oh my God, the pool. I love the pool. And I talked about loving the pool. I love it. I love the pool.

I love that. So meanwhile, so they start drinking some champagne and chatting and then meanwhile over at Kyle's. So Kyle is cleared, but she's still not, she's still being careful. So she's up on a balcony and Garsell is down at the bottom of the balcony. And in a very into the woods moment, Garsell is like, Rapunzel, Rapunzel, let down your hair. No, not your bangs, the rest of your hair. Thank you. Kyle just does the splits instead.

She's got to have one trick. She's got to have even the hair or the splits ready. And I hope it just left her. I hope it's like I'm so sick of being in these splits. We're just gonna leave. And I love our self-version of compliment. She goes, wow, you look really good considering. Considering it's a low angle in the United States and are those bangs back? So, let's see, she's like, well, we're Romeo and Juliet now, although I'm not drinking poison for her.

So then Kyle, this is such a calm moment. So basically Mauricio and the kids all got, they went to Palm Springs because they didn't want to get it I'm like I understand quarantine away from mom, but like literally you could like go to the hotel or something They like like bye bye Kyle hope you survive So she of course Kyle turns this into a way to reflect on her career as a thaspy image because it's so ironic to me That on little house on the Prairie there was an episode called quarantine where I had Scarlet Fever and I was in isolation. Like there's nothing

ironic about it. That's like me saying that's so ironic that one time I said the word quarantine and then later on we all were in quarantine. Yeah, you know, I was sick in that episode and I was stuck at home all the time and then something hit me in the head and I had to fix my nose. Wait, I'm sorry, that was the film I was just in. Okay, I had scarlet fever and then I was asked to go get somebody a bag of blood. I'm sorry, that was ER. God. IMTB so muddled.

COVID, get my IMTB straight. I have so many memories of Michael Landon throwing shoes at my face and I had to get so many nose jobs. And then they said this footage of Kyle just like blinding their in bed like little child actor Kyle with a scarlet fever be like no, no hot water. Kyle like God, what a jever. So then Erica and Ren are talking and oh I'm sorry, we're still in the same scene, same scene, right?

Yeah, we're back to Erica and Rina. Yeah, sorry. I had a COVID moment myself. Uh, so Erica's like, I'm not good. I called my psychiatrist. I'm so painful when you read things about the suit that says my divorce is a shame. The high assets, I mean, look at this. Do I look like I'm a hot man? I said, no, it looks like you're spending mother fucking assets. I mean, look at this. Do I look like a modern assets?

No, it looks like you're spending mother-fucking assets and you're a $10,000 damn dollar. With your outdoor seating area, that's just like a base, it's like this gorgeous, gorgeous converted garage with beautiful furniture, et cetera. Which I know it looks like you are living off of assets. That's what it looks like you're doing.

I know. It's like, how about you get a one-bedroom apartment in my old building? How about that? That's what I'll believe that you're being frugal, okay? So, Rinna tries to explain the public outcry by saying, Well, it makes you feel better if the person that you put up on a pedestal is really a piece of shit It's really stealing from orphans and winters. I'm like you guys are the ones that Rand leads Savannah pump off the show Okay, for pretty much the same mentality, right?

Crystals like but why do people want that just cuz there's a Stryk and I'm on a holiday and then she tells us people think America Jane brought down Tom Gerardi Tom Gerardi brought down Tom Gerardi and I don't want his actions to absolutely kill what I've created and I get that you know I make I mean I'm making fun of it but I get it and she's like I just hope this isn't the end for me and she says you know those who know you know that you never had to deal with anything like this, then of course it's easy to believe, you know, unless you really know me, which I pride myself on the fact that nobody actually does. But for the sake of today's

scene ladies. And so Garsell, you know, it's clear that Garsell is suspicious, but she's trying to be nice about it. So she tells Garsell has a Google. Okay. That's what I'm going to say about this. Garsell seems to be the only one who actually put this into Google and read. I know. So she's the only one who's not a, they all, they all put it into Google, but she's the only one who's not afraid that the audience will turn on her if she doesn't support Erica.

Because you know, again, as we always say, this cast always totally gets it wrong on where the audience will be when in terms of who they're gonna go after and who they're gonna support. So Garsell is like, well, every day it's something more. I mean, horrible allegations. I mean, to think that people passed away.

Right? People thought, well, as anyone said, and we're gonna talk about this, people died, anyway, anything. And Karles was like, well, she said, she said, we're going to talk about this. People died. Anyway, anything. And Kyle's like, well, she said it's really hard. And she didn't do these things. And Garso goes, Oh, so she actually said those things to you. So it's like writing in a notebook. Because she's got a show. So then back to Crystal and then Crystal's like, well, this stuff that's coming out, did you know about this? She goes, no idea, no idea, which is bullshit.

I don't believe that for a second. And she's saying, and I ask myself, what else is coming? I'm going to go, hey, yeah, no idea. None. And Chris will go, well, it seems like you have a good head on your shoulders, which is the sort of thing you say when you're like, I don't know what else I say. This is a terrible situation. You're probably in trouble and I have got nothing else to add except either it

seems like you have a good head on your shoulders or my husband did the line king and I'm gonna go with the first one. Yeah, it's basically like saying, wow, if I were you I'd be on the bathroom floor putting lipstick all over my face. Okay, be pulling a wild at heart right now. You seem great. You're out of bed. You seem great. You're at a, I'm so glad you, so Garsell is like,

well, it's unbelievable. I mean, makes you go, is this the same person we knew? Is there anyone want to give me any sort of like mild social cue that we both think this is crazy? Anyone or am I just going to keep tiptoeing around this? No, I'm not going to do that at all. I'm not going to do it at all. So you know, just knowing you're as long as I do, this just doesn't, it just can't keep tiptoeing around this. No, I'm not gonna do that at all. Not gonna do it at all.

So, you know, just knowing you're as long as I do, this just doesn't, it just doesn't, it doesn't ring true to me. Garsell's like, well, I mean, yeah, I guess you've known her a lot longer than me, obviously. She's like, you see Garsell during the edition, like how long has Kyle known this woman? Is she going this hard for this woman?

Yeah, so yeah, and you know, Garsell's basically saying, Garsell's really good when they give her a line that they want her to use in the trailer. One thing I know is that husbands can have secrets that wives don't know about coming up next on Garsell says things in a sense, in a tone. Garsell gives free commercials to the oxygen network.

So, uh, Kyle's like, you know, and Kyle basically echoes what you were saying earlier that she doesn't think it's a sham because maybe Erica had heard this stuff was coming down the pike and thought, Hey, I'm not going to be sticking around for this. This is crazy. Who what? Who, I mean, if you, if you truly loved your man, then yes. But if it's more of like an arrangement and a shitty ass marriage and the guy's a grumpy old asshole,

yeah, of course you're gonna get out of there, of course. So Garsell says, well, maybe Tom didn't do these things, you know, but I don't think the Erica knew, yeah, and then the Mr. Oxygen line. And so Kyle's like, you know, obviously when you're married to someone, you just trust them. And then you spend years together and you just keep on trusting them. And Grissel says blindly sometimes this Sunday. So then we go back to

Erica, who tells who tells Crystal, I'm going to give you a lesson, crystal. I entered my marriage at 28 years old and the power balance was like this. So please, look at your bank account. Look at your bank account. And in Inverness talks about how like a lot of women in Beverly Hills don't, you know, they don't make the money and they don't know where the money is.

They don't look at the money, but how she makes money and that she and Harry have separate bank accounts. So I know where the party are buried and I find those bodies and I'm like would you like to meet Scott Dessock? No, okay. Can we use you as compost? Harry likes to garden.

And you know, Rinna does have a very different relationship because Crystal is saying you know I mean I look at like living expenses or whatever, but the finances, that freaks me out. And Rinna's like, yeah, you need to know what's going on. And so let's see, Eric is like, well, then in 22 years later, when things don't end up great. Well, then she says, there was nothing I could have done

differently because I kept asking and was continually shut out. I like that should be more of the lesson, which is that if you are in a marriage and you're asking for information and your partner is not being upfront, you gotta leave him. I'm sorry, that's not a, that's not built on trust and love right there.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Okay. But this stuff that she's talking about, when she says two years ago, when I was called out in a lawsuit in Arizona, he was like, don't worry about it, I didn't do anything. Yeah, well, she was called out, she was named in the lawsuit,

because that's a lawsuit that says, Tom has been misappropriating funds that was supposed to go to these victims. I think this was the burn crash victims because two years previous to that was the carousel in Carson victims. I mean, there's a lot that's been publicized. So when you're actually named in a lawsuit,

you don't Google yourself and look what the press is saying about you and the lawsuit because it said that Tom was misappropriating these funds and spending them all on Erica's lifestyle and glam and clothes and private planes and all this other stuff Which is why she was named in the lawsuit so to be like I didn't I had no idea because I was shut out Well, you see that's being publicized when you Google yourself So you know you're being sued for misappropriated funds so the act like you don't know anything now that he was

Misappropriating funds to give to you to afford your lifestyle Would you have not changed since that point? It's just silly. It's just silly to think that she has no idea. I think the self-deniability is very high, or the self-denial, I should say. It's very high. I think it's probably, you've gone around telling everyone how great your relationship is and you said, this is and you said this is your life

This is your fabulous life. It's been very well publicized and you build this house of cards and it's really hard It's really hard. I think to To have a good hard look and say this is all bullshit. I need to like fix this and I think that you get her head in the sand I think that's what happened. Oh Man, you are such a good you're such a good, you're such a nice, you're a really nice guy. You're a really nice guy. And I don't say that in the condescending way. You really are.

You really are. I should have done that. I'm just saying I can understand why someone could have sort of like this. Yeah, because she's spending the money. Because she's spending the money. She's being accused of mis, he's been accused of misappropriating client funds

and funneling it to her. Her name is in the lawsuit And she still goes on spending that money and taking a $20 million loan into her company when she knows that he's been doing this I'm saying that's what I'm saying. She has the college. She's having she it seems like she had some sort of cognitive dissonance and well and like the logical thing was She was gone the hell out of there and said she kept on she kept on Participating and now like she wants us to feel bad and I feel bad that she was in that state unlike crystal I feel bad that you feel bad, but ultimately she should have gotten out of that earlier so So now we go to Rene's house for a scene that felt very much like an online extra

I'm like is this to be stumbling to secrets revealed. house for a scene that felt very much like an online extra. I'm like, is this to be stumbling to secrets revealed? What is this scene? Yeah. Basically her like on the phone for way too long with Amelia. I'm sorry with Delilah and a. I say such a fame whore. Oh my God. This guy's perfect for this family. Geez. It's such a douchebag. You never watch the violence season four. If you watch the violence season four, oh my god. He's this sort of guy who thinks he's really deep. He'll be like, you know what I noticed?

I noticed that sometimes coffee cups, sometimes the black. It just makes you realize a semi different variety of things. You know, you can just see he's such a fame whore because they're face timing. And so Delilah's like, hi, mom. And he's like, hello, that has his head right now. Ah, in the picture to make sure he's on the bravo. Fuck off. He is a douche in any time.

I'm going to tell him someone would tell him off or a girl would tell him off. I'm love Islander break up with him. You'd have such a hussy fit. Like he is like a total narcissist. And Delilah is definitely going gonna have her hands full. But then I was surprised. I could not believe that they they wound up together because Emilia was watching Love Island. I can't believe Emilia watched Love Island and was like, oh, this guy, A.L. Oh my God,

we totally have to set Delilah up with him. You can't. She's with Scott Disick. I can't believe you. How could you be surprised? Emilia with Scott Disick. I can't believe you. How could you be surprised? Amelia finds Scott Disick charming, okay? So that's where we're coming from.

And Rina is like the mother hen fame whore because she is like trying to be all, aren't women crazy? Don't mind them, the famous person. Just keep my daughter around. She's like, you know these girls. I mean, half the time they're crazy and the other half they're all their periods. Good luck with that.

Oh my god. I never get a tour of all these dresses, but I was barely paying attention because I was just still so mad about A.O. Oh god, he's the worst. He really is. So this is basically Rina. Yeah, I'm excited. That's all. No, I'm old man, Ronnie, whenever the previous for that come on, I'm excited. That's all. No. I'm old man, Ronnie, whenever the previous for that come on, I just start screaming. Oh!

British love house. Go to school. Love house. You go to school. Love house. The first episode, there was this girl named Liberty. She goes, my name's Liberty, and I work at a chicken restaurant. Why are you doing this to me? Liberty from the chicken restaurant.

I can't. Speaking of craziness, we then go over to Cathy who is in her backyard or her back terrace calling for her dog going, I'm Cathy and I work at a chicken restaurant And I love that her dog is named Sue Like Sue Sue come here. Oh Okay, please don't howl in Beverly Hills because you know what's around there? Coyotes I know my friends. You know what they do. Just got eaten out Okay, yeah, it's like you're calling them to eat little su. Okay, can you give su a fighting chance?

Well, also, you have to be careful because when you howl, sometimes Kyle shows up instead because that's what happens. Kyle arrives. She's like, I heard my name. And Kathy has made all sorts of like Christmas reads that she's put on the table. And they all have like little dolls in them,

which are like very strange and terrifying. Yeah. And Kyle says they look like baby Jane. This is demented. She goes, you know I love that, Kyle. Well, this family would fucking love that. So Kathy is talking about her little reason.

She's like, oh, just do my fantasies, you know. I'm always coming up with something like I can always see angels, resulters, or teddy bears, crystal fruit, then snowman. Mollers. Seuss head eaten off by a coyote in her bodies on the other side of the three. That could actually happen. So Kyle's depressed because COVID is getting to her.

Which by the way, it's funny, because what was it? It's early this week I was saying, how Robin was depressed on Potomac, and I was saying this is one of the more real things. So Kyle's actually going through a real thing here where she's just depressed and I'll feel for it when it's Robin, okay, not with Kyle.

Well, no, I'm just saying it was a real thing. And she was saying, she's like, oh, I don't know'm just saying it was it was a real thing and she was saying She's like, oh, I don't know if I could like do a good job as a mom right now You know, she's like really hung up on her Like her status as a good mom because remember last season. She was like, are you mommy shaming? Are you mommy shaming? Yeah, so she's like I just feel like I can't do anything with Porsche and like she can't do anything She can't go anywhere and I've always prided myself on me and good mom and like that's my thing It's like my favorite thing and like I don't want to see my child not her best and like Porsche miss classes because she slept There were alarms and then she slept through classes

I'm like, I'll get in there with like a bucket of water get in there get in there Well, we find out that what she's really afraid of is that she's like, she hears everyone talking about how their kids are so excited for this to end so they can get back out there and see their friends and Porsche's not. Like, Porsche's totally happy just being at home, not seeing anybody. And, you know, that's okay, not everybody needs to like grow up to try and run the rat race of Beverly Hills, you know. I actually think that that shows that you've actually got some well-adjusted

mothering skills as well. So don't worry Kyle. And yes, you did just hear me say very nice things to Kyle. Okay. So let's just move on before I get any comfortable. If I were poor, I'd wanna get out of that house just because of all the pink neon on the floor, you know?

No bath, I was a very real thing. I actually felt bad for Kyle. I felt like that was, I, I was a very real thing. I actually felt bad for Kyle. I felt like that was, that was, I felt like it was a real thing. And, and, and I like the Kyle's upset that Porsche is putting on long fingernails. She's like, she's putting on long fingernails. Like, I wanna be friends with Fae Resnick.

I don't wanna raise Fae Resnick. Yeah, I mean, she's just doing all this stuff cause she's bored. I'm like, you're on your ninth face. Okay, can we please not fingernail judge the girl? Geez, so then they start talking about Erica and She says you know, she's really not good and she's saying that these headlines aren't true And she can't even defend herself because it's a court case and Kathy goes, you know

At the end of the day you get nothing for nothing theme of the day, life is a poker game, and everyone's got to show their cards. Okay, Kyle says, Kathy, shut up. Also, that's not how poker works anyway. Yeah, that's like when you fold, you literally never have to show your cards. Yes, one goes. That's how it goes.

Anyway, there's how to fold. There's people on this cast. Okay, so now we go to Sutton's house, where she's got a new pup and then Wylin, one of them named up for Wylin Jennings, and Rinna shows up and Wylin, the dog has, by the way, gorgeous, gorgeous puppy. I have broken some crown molding, so they're like afraid, because Kyle will be so mad.

And then we finally meet one of Soughton's daughters, Porter, who is a freshman in college. And Soughton, Porter is a girl, she's a girl, she's very quiet, and she's majoring in history in French, two things that'll get a very far in this world. So this is so Southern, it's like, here's my daughter. See, takes French in history and basically, we're just waiting to marry her off.

Doesn't it sound like that? Yeah, and come on. She loves music. She's got a beautiful voice. She plays piano. A mother's dream and a husband's gift. What the fuck? She loves to play cards in the parlour. Her favorite

dance is the Lindy Hup. But she really does love doing his sewing buttons on vest for her husband. She's working on how to make tea and putting jam on bread. So she talks about how she's been texting with Dreet and then we see Dreet on the balcony going, it's so bad, it's bad, Rina. And we're gonna say, I'm not saying your kids must be torture. She's, well I see Jackie's on the other side of the door,

saying, mommy, give me COVID, mommy, I walked in. I just want to be with you mummy Jack is not saying that Jack is like can I have a free snack I mean that's so cute I actually could see the kids being like we just want to see you so so poor they all go out to the backyard to have some you know whatever the food drinks whatever in my house in my house Just hear Kyle from across the hill a little bit less of my house because you broke off some the crown molding that'll be $5,000 So Supporter has joined Kappa Kappa gamma. Of course. She's joined Kappa Kappa gamma

It's like the most like exactly what you'd expect. And- Is it? What'd you say? Is it like a total press? Well, I'm not gonna say it's press, but it's definitely like the girls with the pillow necklaces. Um, so, uh, the real kind, the actual kind. The real pro necklaces. So, uh, we're just like, I was a Capacapa Gamma, you're a pro, I'm, uh, I missed out on

some good cackers. Ho! I should've stayed. I should've stayed. So, uh, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was of lip orders in the same sororities. Lisa Rina. So you're changing that sorority immediately. Yeah, and she's like, Porter's like, yeah, we're called Kappa Kappa Geniuses. I was like, okay, Porter, I'm trying to really embrace you. Please, you're not making it easy, Porter. So Rina's, Rina talks about how, oh, you know, it used to be the cool girls and set and says, well, you have beauties, Lisa Rina's, Rina talks about how, oh, you know, used to be the cool girls and set and says,

well, you have beauties, Lisa Rina. So you know how to keep them away from the boys and just kidding Lisa Rina. And Porter's like, yeah, my mom does. She's really strict. And she goes, yeah, she's not allowed to have lip fillers. She's only supposed to call adult Mr. and Mrs. curfews. It's not allowed to see her boys.

You know, I preserve, I don't know why I was talking like that. She's not allowed to have lip fillers. It's a call. Call Adults Mr. and Mrs. like it suddenly took me into Southern charm. I'm sorry. Triggered.

Triggered to her. Triggered to her. Triggered to her. Also, fuck Matool. We didn't even talk about that. Matool cheated on Naomi and that's not cool at all. Matool fuck you dude. Yeah, because of pieces shit.

So because of pieces shit, which we called you on right when right when we saw him in his first scene. Yeah, I called his ass out. You called it. I was like, no, I think Matool's really good. I had bad judgment on that one. Yeah, douchebag. So, son's son's like, well, they're gonna stay little as long as they can,

and they're gonna play Uno with me on a Saturday night, and I like it, okay? So, anyway. So she goes, well, you know, you have young children, Lisa Rinna, so, you know, Porter, maybe we can have a play date. You know, you could meet Rinna's kids, and Porter's like, I mean, mom, Lisa Rinna, so you know, Porter, maybe we can have a play date. You know, you could meet Rinna's kids and Porter's like, I mean mom, a play date, what adults now? And Rinna says, well, your birthday is made for it, so you are a not

model, is that your astrological sign, okay? May 4th, not famous person. Oh, I'm sorry, May 4th, Muggle. You're a M muggle that's your astrological sign. I don't think my girls are like that I am so excited for the future HBO Max limited series about the hamlin daughters just corrupting Porter That is that is that is not the sound awkward She's like well, I'm a I'm a're like, well, my kid is a Gemini. And it's kind of awkward, like, basically, my girls are the astrological signs that don't eat carbs, and you're a potato.

Okay, your astrological sign is a potato, so I'm not hanging out with my girls. I'm gonna find you someone from Love Island too. Don't you worry, cause everyone from keeping up with the Kardashians has taken, unless you like Tristan Thompson. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Erica that's some grown up business just yeah, you know, I just don't know what we're dealing with yet with her and Suddenly says I don't know the facts. So I'm not gonna make a judgment until I know the facts and we're gonna go

Well, why would you? Huh, and then we start seeing the lines Anything without having the facts on this show. Why would you ever? Mm-hmm And we start seeing the lines being drawn in the sand here. We've got Rina Kyle and Doree Well, maybe not Doree, but so far, Kyle and Rina, who are just not gonna ask anything and just go with whatever you say, right?

And then we've got Sutton and Garsell, who are like, wait a second. Yeah. So now Erica and Kyle meet up at a park and they remove their masks and Erica's like, yeah. And so she's like sad. So Kyle's favorite thing to do is to try to set up someone, meaning that if someone's sad she wants to show she's sad too.

So like, literally if you come out of Schindler's lists and you're crying, and Kyle sees you she's like, oh my god, I feel like I'm in a crime cuz you saw Schindler's list. It's like, you weren't even in the movie theater. Go back to eating your ice cream outside the movie theater. I just want to be there for you. And they can't help it. I can't give you a whole crime now.

Yeah, and Erica's really freaking out. Like, she's really sobbing and crying. This is where I started to feel kind of bad. And then I woke up and wouldn't let myself anymore. But, you know, I did feel it for a second. So she says, you know, she's, she can't say anything, she can never have predicted this shit. Ever, ever, I can never have predicted this.

And Carl's like, I've got the least to say you like this. Can I get some sympathy for having to see Erica like it is. So, um, so Erica's like, this is so odd. I've never been this overwhelmed. It's like walking into my shoe closet without having a gay to say, yes, I love your shoes. It's hard. It's hard. My hands are literally tired.

I never could have predicted this. So then we get a monologue from Erica. I never ever predicted that this would happen. I have not come out. No, I don't even carry them on Kyle. There's nothing I can do, but wait to tell my son of the story. Okay, so I'm just gonna read it because who needs to hear this whole thing in that voice? Okay, so I'm just gonna read it because who needs to hear this whole thing in that voice? The feeling of not knowing and then these huge things being alleged and just having to defend yourself It's a lonely place to be okay. I'm feeling for her for all that because this does have to suck You know guilt or you're not everyone's turned against you. You're a pariah. Everybody hates you all your friends

Who you thought were your friends are no longer your friends unless you're being paid like on this show? I'm getting lost in the sassy. My divorce is not a sham, it's just not nobody wants to be in this position. Being the possible target of a federal criminal investigation is uncool. And to have all those things about you said and then to have everyone basically question everything it's lonely and quiet and you'd be shocked how quickly people turn on you and distance themselves from you. They were there when it's good.

You wanna know who your friends are, go broke. Go to jail, bury a body. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. At the wait a second, maybe you shouldn't be buying your friends. How about you don't become friends with your glam squad? Also, how about you don't base your entire personality on how much money you married into? Like how loaded your husband is and how you fly private everywhere like give me a fucking break lady

Maybe people are also like turning their backs not because oh They're not getting handouts from you anymore. Maybe it's because There is a criminal case and they don't want to be like like when she says that like oh, they don't want to be dragged in I'm like you're saying that like That's a totally irrational response for someone. It's like, yes, exactly. Right, this isn't just a case of, she's kind of conflating the whole, a rich lady who gets divorced

and then no one in Hollywood will talk to her again, which is true, it's a trope and it's true. She's comparing that to like, widows and orphans. Rocking widows and orphans, like literally. And also, we've never seen her friends beyond Mikey and her glam squad. So like, are we, like, it's hard for us to feel bad about the friend she's losing

if she's never even shared her friends with us. Right, so Kraus, like, have you talked to him and she said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no He's a very proud man. And you know, I left because of the resistance to a conversation. I mean, the resistance to you can't see well or the resistance to you can't hear well. You're the grading in front of me and you're ignoring it. Okay, now this is where I was like, you are such, you know, I almost fell for your bullshit, Erica. And now here you are on national TV trying to lend credence to his bullshit and Mental what he's trying to say that he's mentally unstable because of dementia, right? Yeah, so now she's here Like this is why I think that she's in kuhuts because now she is here trying to like get it into evidence that he's You know got actual physical mental problems. Switch, yeah.

She's like, too many convenient things coming to the head at the same time here. So she says, I'm so until unload and Kyle says, no, well that's what friends are for. When you talk about friends leaving at the wrong time, I'm not that friend. I'm the friend who's gonna sit here and gather all the gossip until all the other girls

and then that elevates my position in the circle. That's the friend I am. And Eric, because you have your own things, Kyle. I was like, I don't care, Eric. I mean, you checked on me and worried about me. I'm just only, I just only wanna ask you questions that are already out there. I was like, oh my God, okay, go ahead.

What the fuck am I gonna do? Just say whatever you want. Yeah. And she's like, well is because this is when the news is breaking that Tom was uh asking the court for Erica to pay his or her legal bills and also pay him alimony yeah which is like first of all how he's always made more money than I have he knows everything he's concerned with himself first. And so, but sorry, I'm so sorry, but the reason he's asking for Alamoney is because of that $20 million loan. So if they

diverted this $20 million into Eric's company and they freeze all of his assets, he's asking for Alamoney from her because he put all that money into her accounts, right? So that's how I'm thinking of it. Is that true? I don't know. That's just how I'm piecing it together. Go ahead, babe. Go ahead. So, um, so she says, um, I can't believe I'm about to say this. So I've one taking this mascara to you going down my cheek for a moment. Okay, I'm gonna say it as much as Tom encouraged me. I think he resented me every step I took forward. For instance, when I wrote that song,

shallow in the shallows, the shallows. I can't believe he resented me all that time. And then I was on SNL. And then, and then I won a Grammy for Best New Artist. They said, congratulations, Ali, you won Best New Artist. And then he was resenting me the whole time. Who would have thought this would have ever happened? Yeah, she says that he basically was like who the fuck do you think you are? Of course that would have it. And he was sent to her. That's literally there's a reason why that movie has been remade a billion times because it's like the age old story

Of course, of course he would resent you. I mean, I have no idea. So Kyle's like, well, he's angry that you left. So I guess this is your punishment. She's like, hey, stand the punishment all the way to the ground. And Kyle says he's no angel. And she says, yeah, but people don't know that because they only see this husband who's out there campaigning for his wife.

But at home, it's not so great. And so I guess I am one of those people who says, like, it doesn't look like it's so great, but yeah, like I said before you see him out there so excited at the concerts that he's basically paying to make happen and bragging about it all the time. And that's get on set of the sketch. I can't believe I called it a skit. That sketch on SNL, which was about Erica,

which is, I take my comedy seriously, I take it and prop very seriously. But that sketch was based on a real Event did you know that I don't know what you're talking about the sketch on SNL that was about Erica and Tom Oh, she was all excited that she was in a sketch on SNL that they were making fun of her That's from an actual account of someone being like yeah, and then Tom would have these parties with all this lawyer friends, and then he'd be like, and now Erica to perform for us.

Yeah, I read that somewhere that that was a real thing. I just thought that was really funny. Yeah. Pat my purse, pat my purse. Oh my God. A big lawyer party. Hello. Now Erica feels bad because he's in a place

where he's in his own personal hell, and she in his own personal hell and she can't help him I can't help him I cannot help him I call it's like that must feel horrible that my like thanks Kyle You always thought you were gonna be there from to the end that must feel horrible Erica that must feel horrible Is it horrible Erica you want to cry some more? Is that Kyle shut up? Yeah, and Kyle's so, I remember you saying you'd be there to the very end. Yeah, this is the end.

It was supposed to end with him died very, very quickly by Christmas, OK? But now this is the end. And Kyle's like, I'm sorry. And she's like, you know, it's just torture to see someone just fucking melt talking about Tom. And I presume his mental state. Guess we'll have to wait to find out more on this

Sworgas saga. But here's my last note. I wrote, I hate that I have compassion. Well, you know what? That's what a good night's sleep will do to you because that shit was gone by the time we recorded this You know what's so funny. I just almost don't have energy to decide whether or not I have compassion I'm like I feel like I have much more distinct views on

Crystal's door that I do on this because it's just I don't that's like I don't know enough. I don't know enough and I'm torn between wanting to sort of go off of certain instincts or to be like, well, I should've been like this or those widows and orphans and like, pardon me, doesn't know if I'm just being a crazy internet person or I just don't know. I don't know so I'm just going to. Well, I just know what I read because I love this shit.

You know, I love this shit. I love when it's something I can go research on the internet and try and get my case all together and be like, this is what happened because I read an article from 2017. You know, this is the shit I get nerdy over. But yeah, at the end of the day, no one really knows. We're just gonna have to wait and see.

At the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing. And that's why you can say for the life of the poor. It's struggling to walk. They miss this made it in here a lot today. And we get to the bottom of it. He will. He is firm, dazzlement, and the game. So while this will continue to unfold,

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