Watch What Crappens - RHOBH: To Rome With Shove

Episode Date: July 31, 2020

This episode also avail as video on Crappens On Demand http://bit.ly/crappensvideo The ladies of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills head to Rome, where they spill Denise's beans all over town. For this week's premium bonus about Netflix' new show Indian Matchmaking, become a member over at Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. **New merch! We designed lots of new face masks for Bravo lovers available at crappensmerch.com A portion of sales go to MedShare! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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My first thoughts on seeing Rome are people are probably covered in birchit and Rome, because there's a lot of birds. Okay. Spirits everywhere. There's packs of them. There's flocks of them. There's a lot of people covered in birchit and Rome, so have fun with that. Rome wasn't built in a day, but it was shed on in less than 24 hours.

Yes. Rome has been shit on all day, okay? Yeah. I came, I saw, I got shit on by a pigeon. Tons of birds. That was the first shot. Yeah, birds, a terrifying shot of tons of birds. Yeah, lots and lots of birds.

So we're here in Rome. Obviously last week we had this crazy cliffhanger where and by crazy cliffhanger it wasn't really that much of a cliffhanger, but it was basically a brandy just you know happened to be coming by Kyle's house. She was just sitting downstairs with a mic. Oh she was just mic'd up ready to go. Maybe she can do like a podcast on the go. And she told Kyle and Teddy that she and Denise had sex and then Aaron, but then they had to keep it secret from Aaron and Brandy didn't want to be the other woman. Oh, and by the way, also Denise had terrible things to say about Teddy and Erica and pretty much everyone else. So Brandy drops this. I don't want to say truth bomb, but

um, gossip bomb on everyone and now we're in Rome and we are in a van going from, I think, presumably the airport to the hotel and Teddy turns to Rina and is like, uh, Rina, uh, Denise has told Brandy really negative things about myself, but Erica and about you Like what you don't have to be saying these things Teddy. Why are you saying it? You don't want to be a shits der And here you are Literally stirring the shit. Yes, of course this fucking Teddy home Teddy. So Rinna's like oh Denise can't stand you. Why would she say that Teddy? Why? She's like you look I live under my dad's shadow. Okay, Teddy melanchamp, you know Maybe one thing you could do is change your last name to your husband's last name not that you have to

I'm all for women keeping their own last name But don't be posting tweets of your dad standing up for you on Twitter and Using his last name and then being like I'm all living in his shadow. You literally are, okay. Check your privilege. Check your message. There's only Camp Privilege. Yeah, and it's also like not an insult. It's just kind of like you are the child of celebrity.

It's part of the course. Think everyone would expect that. So like don't be offended by it. And yeah, what Ronnie's talking about was this really weird thing that Teddy posted last week, where I guess John Cougar Melon camp like posted something like Dennis Richards never heard of him. And then Teddy posted that and was like, oh, that's my dad, right?

Well, it was a different exchange. Yeah, he said Dennis, Dennis Richards never heard of her. And she said, yes, dad, of course, you know, who's Denise Richards is. She's the one always talking about being married to Charlie. She and every five minutes love you and then posted that and then Denise wrote. But she said that's where I get my condos. That's a humor, right? Living in the shadow. Some like that, right?

Something. And then Denise left a comment on that saying, well, are you an adult? Are you a teenager? I mean, geez. So that was the Lukewarm Teddy T for the week. Dad text. Dad text. Whether or not live your dad's tweet shadow, you know.

I will, I will always resent John Cougar Melon camp because when Gene Siskel, I think when he either he died or was in the hospital with cancer, Reston Pete, to both Siskel and Ebert. There was like a period of time when Ebert was cycling in guest co-hosts. And for some reason, there was an episode where he had John Cougar Melon camp on as the guest co-host because John Cougar Melon camp loves movies. And he sat there the entire time with like,

leaning forward with like his forearms on his knees and just like sort of looking down and be like, yeah, it was a great movie, it was a great flick. It was a great flick. I was like get off get off my screen. I didn't get a good film commentary. Yeah, you want this little just like higher up stick of beef jerky to review a movie. You really could have melanchamp. Also, that is why I hated for whatever mean thing he did to Meg Ryan to make them break up because I know it wasn't Meg Ryan's faults. Yeah, here's what I want to know. Where's Richard Roper's daughter? Okay, why isn't she on a TV show?

How about that? How about that? Yeah, give her a chance. Give her a chance. She's just always giving bad reviews to fights. She's like, you know what? This fight was truly boring. And here's why Teddy.

Teddy's skirt is in the most boring of ways. Three stars. So, um, yeah. So anyway, uh, so Teddy tells the whole story and we're like, so they fucked, so they fucked. I totally didn't notice information already. Yeah. And then Kyle and Teddy are covering their faces like, oh my my god two women licking chompers oh and this week also Rina and shit to keep up with posted on her Instagram something like um yeah because Lisa Vanderpump got hurt we mentioned this on another podcast but just for those of you who didn't listen to that one uh Lisa Vanderpump got a

spin-off on the peacock network of Vanderpump dogs and Lisa Rennas super furious because she said that Vanderpump was trying to create all that Lucy Lucy Apple juicy drama So that it could be drama for her new show and everyone said she's not getting a spin off shut up Rennat So she's like told you so That's her angry and She said yeah, maybe Denise and Brandy can get a new spin off called scissors sisters And so everybody was like hello homo foe and totally came against her so she deleted that and then she posted another one I said, oh, I really like that band scissors sisters. Here's our Wikipedia. I love that band. Don't you? It's like is that better? Control over there.

Yeah. Cut, even the scandals are a little boring. Actually, but I'm going to say this though. I actually am loving the season of Beverly Hills. Controversial opinion. There are a lot of people on the internet who are like, this so sucks. It's always the same fight over and over and over and over again. I'm like, yes. That is the point. And I feel like I'm really, I'm invested. And for everyone who's saying that this season sucks, all I got to say is I watched this, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now, right now so many people are saying that it's a boring season and yet everyone's talking right now about it.

It's probably the show on Bravo that people have the strongest opinion about at the moment, like have like a, I mean, I love New York, New York's still my number one, but we're just, we're just two in a row, we're along for the ride, there's nothing that has like, you know, like caught us up and got us angry

and like taking sides. This is the only show right now in Bravo that has us really you know, you know In a rage which I think is always the mark of a really good season Yeah, when you're furious. It's a good season of Bravo It really is when you're furious at someone that means that Bravo's doing their job Yeah, so we're gonna say help me help me paint this picture I need to pay I need to paint it And Teddy's like well, I was a Kyle's and Kim dropped off clothes and then Brandy came in and she said all this stuff

And I didn't even know Brandy that well because I just met her on her podcast But I'll tell you this like on a podcast. She really seems to be a person who tells it like it is And so I love all these ringing endorsements of Brandy's honesty because you idiots are gonna get your turn. You think Brandy's not gonna come on and give you idiots your turn, and then we can have all these little clips

of Teddy and Doris, you know, endorsed by Teddy. Err, incantibility by Teddy. Yeah, I just feel like, I mean Brandy, the thing is with Brandy is that she's very blunt and she'll just sort of say things almost unapologetically. And that gets, and just be, and so she says it like it is, quote unquote meaning that she doesn't care,

but it doesn't mean that she's necessarily saying it as it is. She's at least just saying it. And we said last week, there's usually some truth in what Brandy says, but we just think that she lives in a just a different reality. And I don't know, I'm a little over this whole, someone tells it like it is because we're in a country with someone who quote unquote tells it like it is. I can't deal. Anyway, the point is this. Rina is like, you know, I have very conflicted feelings about this because I know they're friends, but you know, Denise

knows well how I feel about Brandy and then we get a flashback to Brandy just saying to Rina, you've had the same hairdo for 20 years and Rina being like, I love that. That's like the most offensive thing you could ever say to Rina. And then we cut back to Rina with the haircut that she's had for now 22 years or the wig or like she's still on the same hair. And she's like, well, I mean, when it comes to, you know, when it comes to Brandy, how do you know what's true and what's not true? I just don't know where to put this. I mean, Brandy, look, you can call Brandy a liar, but she wasn't lying about that. You're sitting there with the

same hair. I mean, that's true. We just keep cutting back to Dorit, Doreet and Erica in a different car. And they just have, it's like, Uh, we just keep cutting back to Dorit and Erika in a different car. And they just have, it's like, they have nothing to say because they're Dorit and Erika, especially Erika. I imagine being stuck in a fucking car with Erika. Oh my god. They're like, Erika, you have to say something. She's like, hurrah, I'm being a fool.

Wow. I'm gonna take advantage of all this next r we'll be in now because tomorrow my plan is to put myself in a full body cast and walk around Rome. All right, look at that. So, then in the next, the other car, Rinna's like, oh my god, she must have processed.

And Karla's like, well, you know, what we wanna ask you is if you had this information, what would you do about it, you know? I mean, it's your trip, it's your friends, you have fun, it's your job. Yeah, Kyle just hands it off, because she knows that Rina usually doesn't mind just taking something and running with it,

but that's just so shady. Kyle, well, what would you do with this information? Well, if you were truly friends with Denise, you probably would call her up and be like, this is what Brandy's saying about you. If you're TV friends with her, maybe you take her out to dinner and have a one-on-one, and the quote unquote, privacy.

But if you're a college richard, you're going to try to just pass it off to someone else and let everyone else get in trouble at a big group dinner scene. Well, also, this whole thing, okay, so there's also been speculation about the timeline of all of this because the night that Brandy and Kim just happened to come over to drop off some dresses, the cow. They went out to dinner, but that dinner was after Bravo Con, I think. People went on Instagram and maps our outfits and hair and when they were almost dinner with each other. And so it looks like they went to Rome, had this scene, they needed to shoot a pickup scene to make it all make sense. So they shot the Brandy scene after all that happened, which makes this whole thing bullshit. But that could have just been a pickup scene. What I think happened was Brandy went to that party to have a big scene with

Denise about it and have a big fight. She said, yeah, I want to be in the throttle. Aaron, all you have to do is say, this is your vagina and you're not saying that. And instead of him saying, this is my vagina, so she could act all offended and make a huge scene and get back on the show Aaron and Denise were like whatever crazy drunk bitch and just left So she was she didn't get her big scene and so Kyle wasn't gonna let that go because she's done all this work guys Like let's not think that Kyle hasn't known about this from before the season began Obviously she has all the women have been stirring this threesomeesome talk and all this stuff to try and build it up to now. It's so phony and it's so tough. Kyle has been gaslighting Denise all season long. You just see it.

She's been pushing this agenda of Denise as an honest. Denise doesn't speak with her own mind. Denise always tries to shut things down. And then of course Denise does start shutting things down because now Kyle has pushed forth this narrative of just always trying to just like ram these, like she's always trying to like corner Denise. So now Denise is like, bravo, bravo, fucking bravo, fucking bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo,

because she's like, I don't wanna deal with this shit anymore as stupid college richers. That's what she doesn't wanna deal with it. Yeah, so Kyle's obviously trying to do it. But Teddy gets it. I mean Kyle's opening line of the season is about this storyline. It's not even about her, you know.

And by the way, Teddy, but one thing is that Teddy does say at that dinner later on that's already on camera. So maybe if what we saw was a pickup scene, maybe there was something that was shot and just did not flow well or did not have good audio. Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. But I'll show up with it. Whenever that scene was filmed, they obviously all knew about this before and have been building up to this.

So Kyle being like, what should we do? How should we handle it? It's typical Kyle. Orchestrating the whole thing and then trying to pawn it off on somebody else and ever taking responsibility for it. And we've seen it season after season most noticeably, which gets brought up later in the much a house. Yeah. Kyle. Kyle is just such a sloppy manipulator. And the thing is that like she has been accusing Denise of not being honest.

Like she never really says what's on her. She never she says one thing and she acts in other ways. And the truth is it's Kyle who is so dishonest. I mean, look at what she says when they get to the hotel. They get to the hotel and she's like muttering to the other women about this situation. She goes, I mean, what are we gonna do? I mean, hopefully it's not a big deal. That's what I'm hoping. I'm like, you are literally in the process of making a big deal.

Just by having this conversation, you're turning it into a big deal. This actually could have been handled in a pretty chill way, but like Kyle acting like she doesn't want to be a big deal while she is simultaneously, you know, like whispering about it behind Denise's back and or maybe not even mentioning it having Teddy doing it. It's gonna be a big deal. Yeah. So Erica's like, Well how cool is Lily Serena? I'm an organized trip to my favorite city, Tampa. Rome, Rome. Can we talk about Erica's look at home

for her at home diary room session? Yeah, sure. First of all, don't use a fish islands or whatever the hell you're looking through. You look like Nemo. And when did she get a baby's forearm put in as her upper lip? What are you doing calm down your gorgeous? I need to see an image because I actually did not really process what she looks like.

Her lip is like a baby's forearm now, her upper lip says, ha! I love roll, baby, mama. And it's like a fish, you know, she just needs like little gill thing. Oh, by the way, we're on crap and it's on demand today Oh, yeah, we're just making yes, I'm just making faces it been this whole time Yeah, if you're watching crap is on demand you can see run he's very effective impersonation of Eric is Fish I lens baby arm face I guess so so now Rina's like you know they now Rinna gets into her room, her sweet.

Wow, oh my goodness, wow, wow, wow, wow. Wow, she's just loving it. Ready to wipe it all down. I mean, Rinna was really ahead of coronavirus. She was ahead of the times. And then- She's probably the reason for coronavirus. You know when you use those hand sanitizer or whatever they say that's gonna

Create the super bug because people people are building resistance to it, you know It's all the wiping Rina is down down all over America, you know She's made the regular move on the corona. I just wiped it all down I was selling my stuff and when I said you know what guys don't worry I caught this I wiped on that entire market. It was great. the rena has created the super bug that Bill Gates Bill Gates predicted so long ago I So don't know how Bill Gates got right into this whole thing. I mean conspiracy theorists He gave a big better speech about the thing that's really gonna bring down the economy and change the world as a super

Virer is gonna be like some kind of super vibe so he gets blamed for it What about like this is the most easily predictable thing in the world Why do you think we have so many movies about viruses and end of the world like why do we have a lot of The conspiracy theories are like fuck Bill Gates I think I mean I don't know I don't really listen to Well, I think they're saying fucking well the conspiracy things I've read have said fucking because he's gonna come out with like some, you know What do you call it? Oh like some like your penicillin Vaccine a vaccine like I was gonna say an anti- Hmm vaccine. Okay, like a vaccine

It's gonna have a computer chip and it's gonna be able to track you all over the world that Bill Gates is always gonna know where you are I'm like well too late. It's already happening. Damn it's so cool. Stupid. You ever notice those ads that follow you around? Too late. Yeah. For that.

Hey, if you're posting this on QAnon or wherever you are, you're already leading a track on the internet. So congratulations. Yeah. This is your, your phone is already track. Stupid. Stupid face. So anyway. I do not endorse those conspiracy theories, by the your, your phone is already tracked. Stupid. Stupid face. So anyway, I do not endorse those conspiracy theories,

by the way, or those rumors. Bill Gates. I'm sure everybody was really worried about. I actually think oddly enough, these days, you kind of have to remind people that these are not, these are like unfounded, awful rumors in conspiracy theories. Because if you don't, they seep into people's minds,

and then next thing, you know, I hear that Bill Gates is selling umbrellas that have my pictures. I don't know where I heard that. Yeah, you just have to like nip them. Somebody in on a real housewives podcast. So anyway, yeah, Rene is wiping down everything, you know, and just going, wow! Like Like you said about every single thing

So you know everybody sees their rooms just to tip it I have to say when when Kyle goes into her room their rooms because it's you know It's Europe and in Europe a lot of times these building old buildings are small rooms and so Kyle her room is like super narrow. It's like the bed. And then there's like a little, like, dinette table, like at the foot of the bed. And it's like really narrow and Kyle goes,

oh, this is pretty. This is, this is nice. Kyle is so mad. She is so mad. And to read his prop five suitcases, of course. And wow, to read. And her chquita banana outfit and her diary room. Gotta love her. So then, Rina is on the couch in the fetal position.

She's like, uh, my stomach is not about this whole tiniest thing. Ah, I mean, if I do tell her, how would I do it? There's just no way to win. Let's please stop acting. Like, you haven't known this is gonna go down the whole time. You guys have already done what you needed to win. Let's please stop acting like you haven't known this is gonna go down the whole time You guys have already done what you needed to do. You've made Teddy be the fall guys. She'll do it Fucking stupid Teddy. You'll do it Well, I like she's like I mean what do I say? Oh, guess what I heard? I'm like actually yes

That's a really wonderful catch all way to segue into something and some juicy gossip I mean don't forget Rena you are the woman who said, Doreet, we're people doing coke in the bathroom at your house. I mean, if you can ask that question, you can ask literally any question. Don't worry about it, Rina. Just ask. So then Doreet tells Kyle on the phone, like, I'm choosing to go cheer tonight. I'm She's not, she's not. Which we know is gonna be, you know, an outfit from Toddler's and T.R.A.'s. You know, but Toddler. Yeah, she's basically, Doreet's quote unquote, chill look is she has appropriated baby hairs.

She's made pearl baby hairs on her forehead. She looks like bucacchi baby hairs, is what she's done. She looks like she's been bucacchied on rodeo drive. She looks like a planetarium, okay. She has like just all these sparkles on her forehead. It's like, you know, when you go to the road. You go to the scene, you look at the top.

But she's also wearing this Chanel shirt. It's like a white button down. It says, shot and nail, cause that's the whole thing. The Chanel, that some part says shot and one part says, now, but it's like this button down that just sort of makes her look like a very fancy like warehouse worker.

You know, I know a fan's the warehouse workers, but I don't think that's the look that she's going for. Yeah, like at a pharmacy, like a pharmacy warehouse, you know? Yeah, she's like literally delivered a crate from like Pfizer to the shipping dock at CVS. And then she's got Biker gloves, Bicycle, Bicycle. Yeah, then she's wearing Biker gloves.

Like, cut off kind of hobo gloves from back in the end. I mean, you're not supposed to say hobo, but in the 80s or whatever, cut off gloves, and they say, hobo gloves on the tankers. So you can tell she's like, go go go. She is like, she's like an aware. You know, she really spends so much money to look poor She is like she's like an aware

You know she really spent so much money to look poor because only poor people need to have shot now written on you know and Yeah, she is so For people that rich people do not need that Derry you totally look like a renter Yeah, exactly she is a fancy totally look like a renter. Yeah, exactly. She is a fancy pharmaceutical warehouse worker. I mean, any blind person that passes to eat and touches her head, it probably just spells out like,

pool. Gross. Anyway, and then so she comes down in this crazy look. And Erica, Erica's going for like, she has her hair like all blown out. Remind me of Remember Catherine Edmonds. Is that her name Catherine Edmonds? Yeah. At Words, whatever. And she was like a, she was like a half-season housewife or something like that for, for this show. Yeah, she's trying to bring her in for the OJ drama, but it didn't

work. She's like, I don't want to talk about OJ. It's like, why do you think you're here? Nothing else makes you fascinating, man. Sorry. But Catholic had one of the best story arcs of all time, which is that it turned out that like her hearing aid needed to be readjusted. And she's like, turns out I couldn't hear anything and that's why I was being an asshole.

But now I can hear everything. It's fun. It's pretty low, it's a little low on that one. Didn't she also confront Lisa Rina about being anorexic? Who was that? She, I think she said, I think she had like a, I think she said something like a tacky or something. Like I don't remember anything.

I never see you eating her. Something like that. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, it's just a matter of fact. Just a matter of fact. Just a matter of fact. So I love when, when Doreet walks into the lobby for Chill Night,

everyone's like, wow. You really need to calm down Doreet. This is too much. So then we see arrivals at the airport and Sutton and Denise are here now. And they're calling, I mean, Denise and Walter Buns, Garsell are here now and they're calling Sutton. And Sutton's like, I can't find my passport anyway. I'm just gonna have to get a private plane

I'll be there girls and Meanwhile Rina and Teddy are going they're in a van heading to dinner and I'm still Reeling from that information. I mean to be said mean things about people behind their back Wow, and maybe hooked up with brand. I am still reeling from that information. I mean, to be said, mean things about people behind their back. Wow, and maybe hooked up with brand. I am reeling at this pretty predictable information. I am reeling.

Well, I had anxiety for sharing it, but you know it's one of those situations where you're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't. Teddy, no one likes you. No one. Kay Kyle probably doesn't even like you Teddy no one likes you no one okay Kyle probably doesn't even like you no one expects you to say anything just keep

doing what you've been doing nothing okay sit there and do nothing Teddy I also I don't think that you're damned if you do or damned if you don't because if you don't say anything I don't think you're damned and if you do say something there's a way to say it and where you're not necessarily damned you you'd be like, hey, Denise, just click heads up. Brandy's been talking shit about you. I can explain it if you want me to, but just a heads up. That's a really easy way to do it,

where you're not really gonna be damned. You're just being like, hey, I'm actually being a good friend to at this moment. But if you do it the way Teddy does it, you're hallowed at this moment. I don't like Denise anyway, so. Yeah. It's time for commercial.

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So then Kyle and Tariq are in a car driving and Tariq is like, oh look at Rome all these memories well remember the first time I took a ride on the Loch Ness Monster what an Italian starry that one was I remember coming here with P.K. and I said P.K. take a photo over there just stand right there and don't touch that building and then he touched it leaned over and still there look at that the leaning tower of PK all the time we were all as a family in a little time car going up a rickety little road and we got to the top and there was a big white monster with glowy eyes and then we went very fast down the hill that's a matter of horn to eat

you can bend to Rome my favorite part about Rome is right in the middle with a giant golf ball right in the middle of that lake. You're talking about Epcot Center, it's not Rome. So then Rina sees, I mean Rina, it just takes it to another level of course. Wow Calm down. Oh my god. I would I would have loved to see her in ancient realm Just like walking around with like a toga what What do you call those tunics just walking around like the the forum? How are you? How are you Hale Caesar? Am I right? Hale Caesar? What's the deal with Nero? Am I right everyone? So let's see here. They just said you know they do a lot of sightseeing it takes selfies in front of things

And then go to like a tourist trap restaurant that basically has like a view of the Coliseum in the back It's like one of those restaurants that you know Romans are like oh not go there. Yeah, of course they're there You said extremely fancy restaurant with sliders on the menu. I know I was like, oh is that work he goes working these days? So Dorita's like she's like So Carl or is it orders of margarita and to be like really? You can order Prasigal or Kampasud or Deutica or Regina. See even uppa. Jimmy Tonica.

She actually said Ginny Tonica. Yeah. Come on, Dury. Fanta. Listen, I've never rose out of stone, but even I know you're Pull the Shake Girl. Yeah. Well, the other thing that annoys me about Kyle getting margaritas, like, listen, if you want

a margarita, I have a margarita, you know? Margaritas are delicious. They are a truly delicious cocktail, descended upon the earth from the gods. But that being said, what's annoying about when Kyle has a margarita is, I kind of feel like Kyle has been trying to make it her thing. And it's like her low key attempt to have a signature something because it sort of pops up every now and then like, well, I always got a murder reader. I think she did that in France also. And it's like, it's kind of Bethany's

thing, which then it makes so much sense that it's trying to make it her thing because Kyle is friends with Bethany. Like, of course, well, being a housewife is my best friend, you know, and then Kyle stole that. Kyle steals everything from every friend she has. Don't you know that? That's true, that's true. The only shock she hasn't forced her kids into some sex video or yet to make them popular on Instagram

or whatever like a Kardashian. That is very true, but you know what though? You know what, it's the years young. So 2020 has brought us a lot of surprises. A lot of surprises. Yeah, that's true. 2020 is still young. So, yeah, and then of course after that

Dere gets a vodka in club soda. After all that shaming, she gets a vodka club soda. She's like, at least I ordered it in Italian. It's like, did you, I think you asked for a cactus on a moon cow. So Eric. He's like, did you, I think you asked for a cactus on a moon cow? So Eric, I was like, what, maybe I've had a son of a shot. I have a bit of son of a shot,

but just with the very light shot of the Jerry Bayer. LA people, fucking LA people, every no one can just order a drink. You know, so can I have a margarita, but not, I just, you know, I don't want salt, but I also don't, I just want a little bit of that Sweet and Sarasas not too much not too much Yeah, when I'm in a foreign country and I'm ordering stuff

I try to just like keep it really simple, you know, because language barriers, etc So I guess what I'm saying is I'm shaming them for not considering language barriers. I don't know This may not be the hill I want to die on But hey at least you climb I've got bigger fish to fry. I've got bigger fish to fry It's about the journey you climbed that hill. Okay. I climbed it and then I got tired and decided to go back up Yeah, so era they've talked about going to see Erica and Chicago Don't have all open and not bum get me a man You're rehearsed for a month or

then there's a strong yeah, man. Let me get the cake side all right, Lainus. Um, yeah, so then the tiny sliders arrive and they're like, and then, uh, yeah, and so then Rinna, Rinna apparently has like a really strong drink. She's like, this is strong drink. I'm not responsible for anything that comes out of my mouth, which is like my favorite excuse that people in Bravo use before they say something really awful. Yeah. So then Denise and Garsell call,

and Rin is like, Hi, Denise! Hi, that's like Jesus Rima! They can hear you! You're holding the phone up to your mouth! And these women love to talk about who's being fake, and they are like, they are so angry at Denise right now And they are basically about to bury her on this trip. Hello Denise. Hi Denise. Hi, how are you?

Do you have a good fight? Except for Teddy. Teddy's giving the phone a dirty look like really really phone So So then Denise is like yeah,, well, we just landed. So, we're just going to go to the hotel and we'll just probably see you in the morning. And then the camera focuses on Teddy for some reason. And then you hear a symbol go, what? Like, is it like that big of a deal that they decide to go to the hotel first?

And like, why did Teddy look so upset about that? They really, overuse it. In this episode, it was everywhere. And then he said, and Denise goes, where's so excited? And Teddy just starts shaking your head like, hmm, hmm, hmm, one of us up to this cast. I'd like everyone to notice how boring this fucking cast is without those other people on the show. Okay, we're missing three cast mates from the show.

And this is the point we've gotten to, okay? All they've done for the past 20 minutes, which we wouldn't know it because we're at 34 minutes into this podcast, so we find it fascinating. But all they've really done on this trip is go, wow, wow, wow, in ordered food. That's literally all that's happened, and we've even gotten to this point where Rina pulls out the old You know what we should do we should go around the table and ask questions baby I'm feeling it when Rina is pulling out her like a berry you game where she could get dirt on you to Barry you at a dinner party you know your desperate so stop trying to get to niece off the show it needs her But that being said it was kind of worth it because I loved hearing this backstory that explains so much of Kyle's life.

So the question is, like, what was your most embarrassing teenage moment in Kyle's? Like, when my mom found out that I had sex for the first time, she called a family meeting and I had to sit in my mom's chair and honestly, it traumatized me. These bangs are trauma bangs, okay? And it was the most uncomfortable worst thing ever. And they're like, well, how did she find that? And it turns out Kim walked in on Kyle and then totally tattled to her mom,

which is so Kim and Kyle. And it's also exactly what's happening right now in this storyline. Kim comes over, it's out of control on someone's sex life. And then Kyle questions them about their sex life and traumatizes them. So really, it was traumatizing Fue Carl

because that's exactly what you're fucking doing on this show, you hypocrite. Wow, Ronnie, that is... Full circle of ass, okay, it's a circle of ass. Light bulb moment, light bulb. So guess what, surprise, Garcella and Denise show up at the restaurant. And Teddy is all like

She's like really upset that first she was served a slider and now that Denise and Garsell are there So she's like really really good. I'm about it. Yeah, she won't smile or get up to say hi She's just really miserable and everyone else is fake, you know Yeah, and Kyle cuz oh my god. I've never been surprised ever and now I'm super Kyle You just finished telling a story about how you were surprised And Teddy's like I kind of always thought I'd like surprises until this moment I'm like she did not come in with a chainsaw I like try to stab you with it or like grind your head off with it. Okay, just be like, oh cool, they're here.

It's not the end of the world. You heard a rumor, just get over it. From Brandy. So Kyle starts with the love that jacket, Garsell. Whoa, because that's what Kyle's way of trying to connect with somebody, you know? Yeah, it's slash compete. And Denise is like, oh, she wore it on a plane of course

Gotta look fucking fancy on a goddamn ear plane and grouse. I was like hello. I'm single Now listen, I need your advice guys because Thanksgiving is up and my ex is there Michael and then there's chocolate Michael Do I mix them? Do I mix them at Thanksgiving? What do I do and when it goes away? You don't call them chocolate Michael to his face to you. That would be bad. No, Renate, it would be bad if you called him chocolate Michael. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah he's like well I've had many things to be having with X's. I mean, I always think more the merrier right? I'm just gonna just leave that there and see which one of you bitches wants to bring up the hooker because I know one of the

I know you're all thinking it is dumb bitches. Yeah, and gratt says like oh, I don't want it to be messy and Kyle Kyle's really trying the wacky Kyle out on this episode. Yeah When Rina has sex with Harry Hamish, this up. Yeah, she's trying so hard. When Rina has sex with Harry Hamish, they go, yeah, Harry Hamish, she calls him by his full name. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, and then puts her legs behind her head, which is another thing she stole from Bethany and screens.

Harry Hamish! And they're all talking their legs up, like, Rina puts her leg up and someone else, they're all like, kicking their legs up. And then Teddy goes, I can't. Yeah, because I can't because she can't kick her leg up and then that's when Doreka's Jackie Wesley was a pregnant woman which I'm surprised that didn't turn into like a like the seat of a huge feud just by saying give it time give it time because now Teddy needs something to

be mad at Doreed about because of what happens with Kyle later so she might use it later. So the next morning Rina Carl's Carsell, they all get ready because they're going to go shopping and Rina's like, oh my god, what am I going to wear? And then they cut to the bed where a leopard jacket's laid out. Shocker, yeah, leopard and Rina wig, okay. Let's not pretending like you need more than an overnight bag. Yeah, and Garza. And Garza is on the phone trying to order room services like a bunch of or no breakfast. See?

X bacon. Can you hear how do you say? Italian. So let's see Colin Teddy who cares. Tyler T. Cresson's guys. Vans. So the big news in the Vans is Denise can't find the switch thing for her curling iron, the adapter switch thing for her curling iron.

And then Erica is wearing, Erica looks like she was just let out of an insane asylum or taken out of an insane asylum because she's wearing a straight jacket and then like a really tall white fedora and she can't move her head around. Yeah, because it'll bend the hat in the car. There's like it's got like shades of Celine Dion and her like backwards white tuxedo and so she's wearing this thing and then Kyle is like you look like you just got a surgery. Yeah, I'm like, you are, like, you, she, first of all, she looks a million times better than anything you've worn this entire season.

So you better shut it, Kyle Richards. We've seen your leisure wear. Well, thank God for Erica's fashion, because it really does give her a personality, because I was cracking up at this, and I just, Erica does nothing for me, but I was cracking up at this. And like last week when nothing for me, but I was cracking up at this. And like last week when she put the wig on the dog,

died, came very easy like that. Like she's the carrot top of this show, you know? Like if she needs a dog in a wig or a hat or something and something like a store hilarious round and just like open it up and she pulls out like, those giant glasses you only get a bar mitzvahs, yeah. So, oh, right, let's be at the potpalo, compare soda! My gosh, I don't have to read.

Compare soda. So, Rinna then gives us a tour, she's like, So does Twintour Churches over there? I have a little story about it back in 1975, when they filmed the exorcist. Also known as, at least a Vanderpun's origin story. Anyway, they were against it showing in Italy and the day of premiered lightning hit that church.

And then last night lightning at the other church because they heard there was someone who slept with Grand Grandville in town. So Denise is like, yeah, well, I know these stories because I was told our house was built on a burial ground. And my kids come to me and they is like, yeah, I know these stories because I was told our house was built on a burial ground and my kids come to me and they're like, Mom, there's a body under the bed. I know people are going to think I'm fucking Kuku nuts, but you know what, there's truth to it. Yeah, well, it turned out actually the body was an agent from Big Pharma. So we got a whole bunch of issues going on here. Between Big Pharma and the Ghost, it's amazing. It's kind of scary in there,

but I did find some free ZMX. So I'm worried that. The monogram on his lapel said, BG, not sure what it could stand for, but I'm thinking Bill Gates. What can I say? So Eric is like, oh, look at this. And it's like a,

a place to cut thing and Abel is thank you. Abel is yeah. And she's like, oh, this is one of them things they brought from all your champs. Oh no, she's talking about the big guy. Yeah, the Abel is. Yeah, I was talking about the King Tut thing. Oh, sorry, I was talking about the first Egyptian antiquity,

which was a real one. And I don't ever leave the country, okay. I guess I should make note of that. So I'm like, which was a real one. And I don't ever leave the country, okay? I guess I should make note of that. So I'm just... That sounded like I was shaming you. I didn't mean to... So I wasn't really even shaming you about it. I was just saying...

I didn't feel shamed. I feel shamed. That's where I try to... Okay, you get it. Marco! So, yeah, Erica's... There's an obelisk. It has a little cross on top, which is kind of funny

if you think about it, because Erica's right. They clearly like stole it from the Asian Egyptians and put a little cross on it like this ours now So I'm sort of like to read with baby hairs. So So then she's like, yeah, this is my first time here in Italy. I mean, hey, I was probably listen I was probably I probably lived here, you know, remember when I said I was a Boy in Spain who was captured and lived in the bottom of a ship. Well, I love to say something. I have many lives. Not only was I a Spanish boy, but I was, I bet I was a Roman citizen having good time with those gladiators. Okay. Well, I'm glad he had us. Even her a match in past life is boring. Seriously. So then, um, the King Tut thing moves and they go up to look at it and they're like jerks

out at them. Like the most obvious, like clearly there's a human being. It's like, it's like, you know those people who are like statues and times square, you know, and they act like, look at that. Looks like they left a random, they let the sarcophagus here in the square Let's go look at it. Does anyone know someone's a Nicholas cage is a national treasure. It's alive. It's alive So then um, Sutton's here and she's like, oh my god. I cannot believe I'm in Rome Praise Jesus to be your ocarcy because I got my passport so I could fly the room commercial

I mean if I had to fly on the private plane it would have cost. I don't know a couple of dresses. It would have hurt. It would have hurt. So basically your ex-husband said no you're not getting the fucking plane. Find your passport. You lose her and then you look at the couch until you found it. I tried to sell my complimentary dress I received by a cos Lomb, but all I got for it was one of those tiny little means that's red and white again and cheap restaurants. I guess that's all it's worth. Anyway, take a lot of those to get applying if you know what I'm saying.

So they go to the steps of somewhere and it's another montage of wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow and Erica still like I understood in the car why she couldn't move around because she didn't want her hat to bend on the car roof but even just walking around she's just like she's like wow I took a lot of inspiration from that street performance I'm just gonna walk around like a robot right now full rotation of the body to look around there we go wow stats so then this is the shopping headquarters of the legendary house of Fendi yeah Kyle's like excuse me do you guys have any leisure wear sort of looks like oversized pajamas I could wear out no okay Kyle tries on an oversized sweater That's all cows

I Need something that is made for someone who is six three. I just want to wear it around Okay, you don't have that no okay and at one point while they're shopping Teddy's just sitting there on her cell phone and the husband seat She's like I'm Teddy emoji. I'm Teddy emoji. I'm Teddy emoji. Hi, I'm Teddy emoji. And Denise comes over and tries to start conversations. I said, well,

she's like, wow, I was thinking again, one of the fucking hats over there. I mean, I'm a fucking jeans. A goddamn fit. I'm a goddamn ass. So maybe I'll try some fucking shoes for something. And Teddy's just like, I'm Teddy.

Yeah, weren't you. I'm Teddy. Yeah. And she's like, I can't do the fur thing, which is basically, that's like the first time it's like, I feel like that's the first time I've ever wanted to be on the side of the fur people is when Teddy said, I can't do the fur thing. He just made, I thought, didn't he get fur?

Didn't you say that? I can't do the fur thing. Oh, I thought Teddy said it. Oh, so that's good. I can still be on the side do the first thing. I'm making that. Oh, I thought Teddy said it. Oh, so that's good. I can still be on the side of, like, antifer. I think.

I mean, look, if they'd be close out of mashed potatoes, I could do that. I'll eat those little fuckers, but I'm not an animal. So then everyone goes and spends about $3,000 or so, but then Kyle spends, like, over 8,000, which I thought was funny that they put in there. That was sort of like a passive-aggressive commentary from the post-production team cast the richest. Ooh! So then they go to the twosy fountain and Basically through a coin and it takes selfies me. What else would they do? Well, and then well to reach taking foot I'll be gonna say about to reach taking photos at the fountain. No, go ahead. No, just how like I was doing this

We're 46 minutes in. I'm ready to get to the meat. Well, to me, the meat of the story is that Doree was taking selfies at this fountain. Everything is an indictment on Conritchers, and I think everything has to be highlighted, because it's very satisfying for me. Like Teddy, I have things I have to get off my chest, otherwise I'll have anxiety if I don't say them. So, Doree just taking selfies, she's being ridiculous. I don't deny that. But then Kyle, Kyle's like, oh my God, look at Doree. She's like posing, oh my God, like this and that.

Everything's like a pose. Kyle, did we not watch you in Greece three seasons ago taking photos at sunrise? Like, how many, how many, do we not watch you run around your house, like a chicken without a head cut off, getting your family together for a stupid family photo that your daughter had to fly in from college

on the East Coast for, and you're gonna act like to read is the crazy one for why not take some photos at one of the most famous landmarks in the world, get out of here. Kyle. So then everyone gets ready for dinner and Kim calls Kyle while she's in her range. So that we're in the car and we're out of the way to Dr. Amplock and new chopper's call. New chompers, the Kim Richard story. Yeah,

then they talk about how weird Teddy must feel right now having all this information New chompers, the Kim Richard story. Yeah, I've been along with you. And then they talk about how weird Teddy must feel right now, having all this information and having to be around Denise, who said such horrible things about her. You know, Teddy, who never talks badly about anyone. Oh, Teddy! I love Teddy, Teddy then tries to call Edwin and gets his voice mail. And she has the most high-home, Teddy face of all times.

She's just longing there on the bed. You know, like, knowing I have to go to dinner with Denise, knowing she has these horrible feelings about me, not appetizing. And so now meanwhile, Rinne is back in her long wig. When she finds a wig, she really likes to like wear like about five times in a row,

you know, so she's back in her wig, her long wig that she did you a few weeks ago. And Mikey is there, Mikey Minden, why he's there, not really sure, doesn't really, you know, it's kind of crazy, but so he's there. He's all on the strip. He's on the strip. I know.

Like I understand why he's there, but I'm saying if it's supposed to be like a friend trip, like you should, like this is what I was talking about, it's ridiculous that that they have like they all have these people like come with them for like a trip And then they're like it's just gonna be a relaxing dinner together and they're getting full on here and make it Oh my god, you know who you totally agree with right now Kyle I know I know But the difference is though I come from it in that I think it makes for bad television She's coming from it because she's jealous because Mauricio probably was like,

no, you can't have that. Well, you know, Eric is probably acting all innocent in this whole thing, but we see where she stands here because Mikey goes, oh, yes, Batch, we're coming to a funeral. We about to say who's yet. Mm-hmm.

Yep. So anyway, so now we're at the restaurant and Nisen Garsell arrived first. Meanwhile, Garsell looks better than all of them put together. So after all the effort that they're all putting in, Garsell just walks in looking perfect, right? Yeah, well they all look really good and they're, you know, it's Beverly Hills, so they're all showing off their outfit and they all have these entrances.

But then Kyle comes in and her sad Liza Manelli slash Lisa Vanderpump glitter jacket. She looked like she just went to Evelyn Janowitz's 75th birthday party. I mean, she's just like, we're hosting a telephone in, you know, like on local television. Yeah, it's like she's not a jack jumper. Number for charity. Like I want to make fun of Dereet wearing just like a million different Versace logos in Italy and looking like a total idiot in the process Yeah, but then Kyle comes along and it's like I I have got I how can I make fun of Doreet when we got Kyle? I know Kyle you look stupid and you're sitting next to a dip in dot

Okay So Teddy is in leopard which I can't with her. Like I'm like, I'm like, it's mad at everything. Yeah, I'm like, now you're a leopard, really. Mad at everything. Now you're in a outfit, come on. And thank God for Garsell. She's like, Doreen Erika or having a fashion show.

I mean, come on, we're having dinner in the hotel. And she is right, this is what I'm saying. So then, Jury, it's just Italian, Italian. Hey, Miss Sarah, Italian. Listen here. Italy, compareso, deceiving. And Carl's like, why is she speaking Italian to the waiter who's speaking English?

And there's a menu in English, which is a fair point. If only it hadn't been spoken by the woman who just last week was speaking to her like her house manager in Spanish ordering like wine and water over the inner common Spanish. So which never came actually now that I think about it. So they do the things Americans do whenever we're on vacation. They're like, oh my God, this is like a real. This is like real Italian food. And they're like, oh yeah, I really tell you not like that shit they give us at home. And she's eating a plate of rigatoni. And it cuts and it also cuts and it also cuts over to to Doree, you know, like our Bucadipepo Ambassador.

Yeah. And then suddenly me while drinks from wash, I was like, oh, no, poor people won't have it, can't have it. Waiter, take this away and give me your best, whatever else. I can't have this modellic at Palette. And he's like Pinoclesio? Would you like to try a Pinoclesio. And he's like Pinoglisio? Would you like to try a Pinoglisio?

And she's like, well, we'll try it. So, um, Garacel, uh, so, so, Sun's best like Garacel. I have to say, I was a little put off when, when we met up in the valley, pew, pew, we met up in the valley and the first thing you said to me was, where'd you get all your money? I mean, I thought it was evident I married into it. I mean, did I, how hard must I try? And Erica's like, I'm out of mine, okay?

Which I thought I appreciated. I like the Erica's like very upfront about that stuff, you know? No. So then yeah, Eric has always really cool, you know, about stuff until she's called on stuff and then she's extremely defensive, you know, if she's saying it, she's cool about it. But if anybody else says it's like, how dare you, I mean, so first of all, set and shut up with this, you're going to really try and fight with Garsell over this stupid, right? And Garsell handled it perfectly. She's like, okay, well, I'm blunt to a fault and I apologize for that. She gets her like that very serious. Like, I'm reading the news on 2020 right now. Look, nods and something's like, thank you.

Thank you. I thought about that all the way while I was flying on commercial and it just ate me up. I was watching that wonderful movie called The Art of Racing in the Rain about that dog and the guy from This Is Us and I thought, what if I'm the dog here

and what if I'm being chasing a race car driver who's gonna love me? And I thought, what if I'm the dog here? And what if I'm being chasing a race car driver? Who's gonna love me? And I thought, Tile Office too short, I have to approach something about this. But by the way, also, perfect example of how you can just squash a really stupid thing really quickly. Yes.

So, Grassel's like, okay, so if we all got our issues out on the table and Teddy's like, oh, guys, I need to say something because like feeling really awkward and I'm breathing really heavy. Denise, someone told me some terrible things that you said about me. And Denise is like, what terrible things? Well, you said things like, I'm pathetic, you can't stand me.

And I'm just like sitting here waiting for like a ding to go off where there's a lie. Never having to. No lies detected. Also, isn't Teddy the accountability coach where I isn't the most accountable thing to before you just say, you said this, you said that, you just say something like, hey, Brandy's been saying some stuff

and this is what she said, can you, like what's your side before you start saying, you said some really shitty things about me. That's not very accountability. Like, that's not really holding someone accountable. That's just like making accusations. Yeah, I'm doing these, like, I never said any of those things about you.

I'm just like, and I'm desperate to be in this group because I've lived in my father's shadow for my whole life. I'm like, I never in any of that, Teddy. And I can't choose who my parents are. Just like, you can't choose who your's are. I was like, I never sat in it, Teddy. Yeah, but you didn't say these things to Brandy Glambo. You didn't say the things to Brandy Glambo.

Like trying to catch flies, like Mr. Miyagi while she talks. And Denise is basically like, I never said that. I never, are you kidding me? I never said that, which is pretty much what she says for the next 15 minutes on the show. I never said that. Are you kidding me? What? I never, I never.

So you didn't say to Brandy Glamville and then we see Denise in the die room. She has Brandy Glamville's your source. Yeah, exactly. It pretty much sums up America's response to this entire season's twist. Yeah, so Denise is like, you know, I mean, I hardly talked to her. I mean, I haven't really spent much time with her.

I didn't talk to her. And so, and Teddy's like, so you didn't talk to her the night before Kyle's party. And she's like, no, no. Are you sure? Yeah, it's like, boom. Yeah. And it's like, well, are you sure? Yeah, it's like boom. Yeah It's like well she called me the night before your charity. She goes oh We see the clip of Randy saying she called me the night before your charity and Teddy saying yeah

She was trying to make you feel like you're really close and then back Teddy's like oh, so you didn't spend a lot of time with her and then stop talking to her right until before the party? She's like, now? And, uh, she's like, now. Teddy is totally one of those true crime cops that we see in all the documentaries who interrogates incorrectly and then like seven years later while someone's sitting in jail, a documentary comes around and says, look at the terrible interrogation and now this person's in jail, how do we get them out? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha They're perfect, they're like catch really puppy, alright? So it's nice, like, well, I mean, I did her podcast and he's like, oh, that was six months

ago. Like, what are you getting at, Teddy? Either just like come out and just say it. Like why are you trying to trap Denise right now with your, like, you don't even have all the information. You're like attempting to get to the bottom of something and you don't even know which direction you're facing. It's just so silly. Just be like, there's what she said.

What's yours out of the story? And I'm also, this is another timeline question. I don't have the answer. This is just kind of putting it out there. Maybe you guys can answer it. But this was the movie because she mentions Patrick Muldoon was in this movie because she mentions it in the text that are brandyy like, oh, so I'm going to have to my phone and put all my texts out there.

I have no idea. And they're all obviously from Brandy so like she's the blue. So obviously she just sent them to radar on liner whoever. So yeah. Anyway, so I think in that Denise was saying you can just stay next to Patrick if you want or you can come to my room and sit on the couch right and get a rollout better whatever. So that movie was being filmed last season because we saw a scene of Denise in shooting that movie or whatever with Patrick right. We're talking about. So it's weird did this all happen

last season and they're still using it for the end of this season. I mean, is that how desperate you guys are? What's the best? I guess. I mean, and then we also see, we also see a clip from BravoCon where someone asked Denise if she's still friendly with Brandi and she's like, yeah, I'm friendly with her. I mean, she's a lot of fun.

She's a straight shooter and she doesn't have much of a filter, but I appreciate that, which is supposed to be a contradiction of what you're saying, but you can still be friendly with someone and think someone's fun, but not be that close with them. Like that is, I've gone on trips with people, where I can say, yeah, I went away with that person

for like a weekend, but I'm not very close with them. Like that is the thing that you are able to have. If we're just talking on what we believe of what's going down so far, I do believe that, of course she shit talked them. She's talking to brand. You're doing like an after party run down with your friends. So yeah, I think she was like fuck daddy.

Fuck Renna B. She's been a bit. She's been a bit. She's been doing that much to me this season, you know, we've seen her do that in the back of the car. Of course. Yeah. So I don't think that that's like a total lie. So Teddy's like, well, that was like six months ago, right? And she's like, uh, yeah, she's like, so you didn't have a conversation with her?

No. And then Rinne is like, yeah, well Denise knows Brandy. You know, I know that she knows her. I mean, she definitely knows her better than me. And then we see that Bravo con clip. And she's like, well, look, you know, I've tacked her a couple of times maybe. And it's like, oh, it's yeah, like some huge admission. Yeah, I think that like my issue with this is not like questioning like the veracity of it. Like I wouldn't be surprised if they like fooled around or

something. They obviously know each other. And I totally believe that that that Denise probably was talking shit or whatever. I don't necessarily believe that it's as big as part of a giant conspiracy as Brandi is saying it is. I question the truth of that. But for me, I just have issues with the way they're trying to corner her, and that, oh, now this got her, oh, that proves everything. I'm like, no, it doesn't prove anything, this is so stupid, you know?

Yeah, so, Rina is like, Denise, have you said things about me to other people that are negative? She's like, now, just because I'm hearing that you have, and if you have, now is the time to tell me. Have you said negative things about Erica? She's like, now, I'm hearing that you have and if you have now is the time to tell me have you said naked If things about Erica now and Eric and I think he's giving this face like Erica's in a veil and she's sort of like a little bird because her head keeps going like this like She's just looking around like a little like a little bird like a little pigeon in a veil

I'm seeing he's doing silent movie eyes like Norma Desmond there's a lady on the train tracks I'm not a for my close up There's a red balloon floating into the sky outside my window so whimsical wow Like, hey, he's mentioned. So she's been nice saying things about Erica. And then Teddy turns to Kyle. She goes, come on, you were there too. And Kyle's like, it's a chorus.

Kyle starts all of this, gets Teddy to do it. And then Brutans, like, she's not doing anything wrong. And then she's going to be there to support Denise to make him look like a fucking idiot. Because that's what Kyle does every fucking year, okay? It's crazy. So Kyle's like, yeah, she came out and said that you think Erica's a cold bitch.

None of these things are like wild, crazy accusations. She didn't like say that oh, Denise, like said that Erica is, you know know like funding an arms trade in the middle east and that's where they get all their money like she didn't say anything like that she's that she was cold like it's just and Erica brought so big cold bit anyway so Denise is like I never said any of that and to be like is it possible that she made it up like she made up Matisse remiss? Because that was completely made up. And Teddy's like, well, I don't know why she'd be making up stories.

Really, you don't? It's the same reason that you're exploiting them because you want to keep your fucking job. Yeah, do you see the cameras that are all around you? And the fame and opportunities they've afforded you? Yeah. I think that might be why. And so like so she has specifics. And Teddy says, yes, she was very, very upset.

And he says, like upset about why? Denise, about what happened when she came to see you and you guys did the podcast. Nothing happened. She introduced me in the cast. She never, I never said anything that I've ever bought. Anyone. and she introduced me in the cast. She never, I never said anything that, I've ever not anyone. Now, I think that like, so this is where I think Denise is a little, like, her just, she just is doing a flat nile of everything,

which is not, that's never going to work because she, she did probably say some shit. We've seen her talk shit. I think at this point, Denise is now in her head thinking about like what game are they playing? What should I be doing? How should I be reacting? Should like do I need to get my lawyer involved? What's Charlie gonna say? How's this gonna affect my ongoing case with Charlie and the kids? I think this stuff is all going to her head and I think she's trying to piece everything together

And so all she really is capable of doing is just denied, denied, denied, denied until she can like get her mooring you know. Yeah so Erica's like so Brandy's lying. Yes but why would she lie though? And she's like I don't know I mean if I had something to say I'd say it and then Rinne tells us you know the Denise I knew before was cool she she can give a fuck she would say anything but the Denise I know now she's just so concerned about her Image and being perfect and that's what I just don't quite understand that That's because Kyle has been gaslighting this whole idea We've sought ever since Denise sort of challenged Kyle about the glam parties or whatever. The glam squads with Teddy's stupid thing.

Kyle has been gaslighting to knees as like this person is just like doesn't really say it as it is. She's not honest with herself and now it is caught on. And yes, we do see footage of her like trying to shut things down, but she shuts things down because they are trying to like make her think that she's not honest and doesn't talk about things. And she's finally fine like fuck it enough You know, so now Rinne has fallen into it. Yes, so then

Carol's like yeah, well she was saying a lot of stuff. I mean Brandi just said so much stuff and I mean it's between you guys It's not between all of us. It's just between you guys. So modest the all of a sudden Yes, I mean guys Faux modest the all of a sudden Yes, we just say it just saying Carstle's like just saying I mean what's a big deal And when it goes it's really really bad Really really bad It's also not really really bad by the way

It's also not remember they're like we just don't want to be a big thing We'll stop saying it's really bad It's really bad So then Rina's like well I'm not gonna be the one to tell Denise, you know why? I've got one work for you. Just there's a failed one, QVC. Okay, here's a second word.

Munchausen. I didn't see a flashback of her. Yes, where Rena really didn't think anything. She was manipulated into thinking all of this stuff about Yolanda and bringing bring you all the stuff on camera. The Vanderpump made her do it. And then she tried to trick her into blaming Kyle for it. Dun dun dun.

So we see a clip of that and then Rhino being like, I'm not taking the bait this time, baby. I paid dearly for that. I learned my lesson. No, you haven't. You're doing the same thing just because you didn't actually say the words. It doesn't mean you've learned your fucking lesson. My God. So, Gresh says like, do you want to know Denise? And she's like, with him, if this is a dangerous area, then no, I don't want to know about it on camera.

And that's when Teddy says, it already is on camera. And Denise is like, Teddy. So, Teddy is like, all right, I'm warning you because you know, it's there's going to be more. I'm telling you there's going to be more. I was like, could you stop like turning this into like the crime of the century right now, the more you build this up, the worse it's going to be. And you know that. And so then Denise says something kind of curious. She goes, well, I'm telling you, there's no truth to that. And they're like, oh, so you already know what it is.

She's like, to nothing, to nothing, whatever it is, to nothing, nothing, there's no truth to it. I'm like, okay, then is that was sort of a misstep on her part? Maybe be like, is she just, is she really saying, I don't know what it is, but whatever it is, there's no truth to it? Or did she slip up? I think she slipped up. I think she's like, oh my god, what is Randy going gonna make us making out

or whatever it's Santa Barbara into? She's probably waiting to see what is being turned into. Yeah, I agree. I think that's what it was. That was the first time during all this, where I thought, ooh, Denise kind of showed her cards a little bit right there. And Garsell's like, well, what do you just say it?

Cause it's really bad, Garsell. Everyone, well, why don't you just say it? It's like, because it's really bad, Garsell. Everyone can guess what? You guys have to say it, because it was brought to you. Then you should run across the bridge and try and get it, get it blamed on Kyle. Because that's what Vanderbilt did to me. And Doreet's like, why are you torturing her? And Denise goes, Teddy's like, Denise, I'm not going to torture you. She said, you have sex, okay?

She said you have sex, okay? She said you have sex And then to reach eyes just like balls really big. She's like I'm wearing a face full of pearl necklace and even I'm shocked by that one and Garsell makes her now infamous O face where she's like now infamous O face, where she's like, she always makes like whistle face. Ha ha ha. And then Denise does the most guilty thing ever. After being like, no, the entire season

of her being shut the fuck up, no, no. And then this she goes, she starts smiling. She's like, ha ha. No. No. Right. That's ha ha ha ha. No.

Ha ha ha ha. That's so ridiculous. I just have to laugh. not a grain of truth to that I'm just gonna laugh it makes me look even more innocent doesn't it? Uh and Teddy's like sorry. I just didn't think it was my place to say it Please like you haven't been teeing that up so grattos like well, did you did you Denise and Denise like? No Happy oh Did you Denise and Denise like? No, I'm so happy. Oh So I'm a rain. No, they certainly do not actually

So then Denise starts like muttering saying weird things because Kyle's like well She said that you guys had an understanding and he's like About what I mean I mean Aaron was the Aaron was there my my dog I don't even know what you're talking about but whatever it was Aaron was there so I was like was Aaron was there she goes well wait well my daughter I know was there I have three kids with me that day and she said that she said that she that she found out the next day and she said that she was told the next day not to tell Aaron and that's what really upset her. And then Denise is like, are you fucking kidding? Are you fucking kidding me?

And Teddy's like, she's just out to get you for no reason. I mean, this doesn't make sense. Well, she's already like one of the stars of the show again, thanks to it. Yeah, what are you so comfortable talking about? And Garsell is like, well, if Brandy and Denise did sleep together, she doesn't have to tell out the ladies. That's her business. Oh, but I do want to get the bottom of it. And Teddy's like, I just wanted to tell

you so you'd have the opportunity to defend yourself. And she's like, guys, after you, after you accuse her. Yeah, she's like, guys, I'm going through so much stuff. And it has nothing to do with us or the show bravo, bravo, bravo, bravovo and Doreet's like honey you have to stop saying that immediately it's bravo bravo bravo

cool me to ball and me to ball and me to ball enough enough enough me to ball look I'm trying not to be the person who leaves right now but I'm just like floored by this information She starts putting her hand up so the camera can't see her face. Please don't air this. Please, please, please Yeah, these days are great. I know she's crying. I feel bad for her. These women are monsters I do feel bad. She's really blindsided and she's trembling She's and she's like it's not true, it's not true. And then Teddy's like, well, I'm really sorry

that you have to go through this. Oh, now Teddy's sorry after she just like built this shit up and humiliated her on TV. Great. So she's like, well, she's so concerned about her image. So anytime we bring up something she doesn't want to talk about, she goes bravo, bravo, bravo,

so she can get the edit that she wants and then we see a clip of Denise doing this over the season With her going I'm not doing the stuff bravo bravo fucking bravo. I'm not doing this you guys I want Chris Collin or I'm out, which I guess is a producer You know Denise yelling at the cameras about her issues is exactly what she signed up to do. Hi, I'm Teddy just hitting it with some truth right there. Teddy truth. And Erica's like, honey, you got to straighten this shit out with brandy.

And she's like, that's like the furthest thing from my mind with what I'm dealing with. And crowd's like, I mean, look, whatever the story is with you and Brandy, it's not like we care. It's like, there's no story counts as well. Youy, it's not like we care. There's no story Kyle. There's your side and there's her side. And... What's this when this Kyle, Kyle's like, well, whatever happened, we don't care. Well, if you didn't care, why'd you even bring it up?

Why'd you make such a big deal about it, Kyle? So then, um... Sunnie says, like, listen, I am a very married woman. Yes. I love my husband It's death and Eric is like you have got to explain yourself, how to But we would like you to explain yourself. So please and Caused and so Denise is like, you know anything anything I have felt I have said except for the stuff I said in the back of the car which you know you'll get to see that on the reunion

I'll be real fun for you. Anyway, anything I've said, anything I felt I've said, and Kyle's like, I don't think that's true. I mean, Teddy's feelings have been hurt. And then sudden, it's like, do you care more about what's been said about you, or do you care more about what's been said about Denise, which is such a great point that here they are like in a tizzy

that someone called like that someone said Erica was cold or that Teddy was, you know, like someone said Teddy was like in the shadows of her father. You care more about that than the fact that Brandy is making all these allegations about the scandal with Denise. Right. So, Sutton's like, cause there's not any of your business, Teddy. She's like, oh, it's about to be out there. She goes, don't get angry with me.

Don't talk to me, okay? I know I'm new and I don't understand it and everything, but you didn't have to bring it up. And she's like, a few, she tells us, a few months before a friend had told me Denise left with Brandy, but why would I bring up who slept with who? Especially at dinner?

It's a rude. One only brings that up in the confidence of an interview session. We all know that. So Teddy's like, well, I'm trying to tell Denise that I heard things she said about me, so here it is. She goes, yes, but she also brought it up in a personal personal Barber whatever and that was a necessary And so to reach try to stand up for Teddy and she's like, oh, listen, I know how Teddy's Listen, she's an other thinkin' shit and Teddy's like, yeah, I mean, I've had no sleep I've got tons of anxiety and tonight she had to get something off of a chest

Which is a burden for unlike what's on my chest which are perfectly shit. It's a get off my back gland. They're like two little pk heads just sticking out of my brazier and carcass will no offense to eat but Denise is also struggling right now and she's like I didn't finish coil. Yeah, coil, coil. I didn't finish. Let me finish my thought. And then, um, Dread's like, listen, I camp at Denise more than you do coil and cause like, it's not a competition lies. It's always a competition with you. And since when are you all of a some defending Denise, the woman you have been railing against in a shadow campaign all season long. Literally just set her up.

You literally did, you just went had a whole half a show last week on camera that set her up. Carl's so sadie. She's like, yeah, well, you know, I'm just saying that sure, you know, Teddy's been through stuff, but Denise, I mean, look what Denise is going through,

which is so cold and I hope Teddy calls her on that later, but she won't let a little fucking ask, yes, her. But Teddy, there, that's what it tastes like getting fucked over by Kyle. Hope you like it. Mm-hmm. So now, I keep saying Doreen to Doreen and Kyle, and now I'm fighting about how Kyle won't let Doreen finish what she was saying, which is I think that was the fight in the early, in the beginning of the season, is that Kyle doesn't let anyone else else talk or like Kyle doesn't listen to anyone else, you know, he just cuts everyone off. So they basically all agree that there's can be there's no closure from tonight and then they all just sort of like sit there quietly in the restaurant awkwardly.

So I'm like, okay, good night. That was fun. Glad we got that taken care of. And Dries, like, you know, my friend here doesn't know when to shut them out. And Garth, I go, yeah, there's bigger things going on right now, so you should probably just let that go, okay? Yeah. And Denise is like, well, I'm going to have to call my fucking lawyer now. And Brenna says, well, you should talk to Brandy. She's like, I don't want to do it here.

And Dries says, Denise is not going to cut it. And she's like, well, if they want me to here. And Dries says Denise is not gonna cut it. And she's like, well, if they want me to be on this fucking show, they're gonna fucking cut it. It's really fun watching Denise make demands about cutting the footage and not airing stuff as we're watching it on TV, clearly, uncut. Like we're not cut, I should say, and aired. It is fun.

So that was, that's the latest in the big scandal. She just can get messier from here on out. Kyle is super shady and she's the one on angry set. I'm still on team Denise even though even though she has definitely made some missteps in the way she's defended herself I think. Because I don't feel like she's not being totally transparent. I still think it's like this whole thing is like not a big deal. And I think they've made into a big deal and they're not being honest about how they've trumped it up into a giant, you know, tizzy.

And then they're acting like they don't want it to be a big deal. It drives me nuts. That's to me as more of a, that's to me, more of an offense than anything that Denise may have done. Well, Ben, this is a very end of our crap and it's on demand. So smile for the camera. Okay, got a picture for the Instagram. Great. Everybody, thank you so much for being here. We'll be back tomorrow with Real House

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