Watch What Crappens - RHOC: 23andMean

Episode Date: January 28, 2021

Real Housewives of Orange County wraps up its 15th season with a reliably cringey, problematic, and dumbfounding reunion episode. Did we really expect anything less? Memo to self: do not turn to Bravo for delicate discussions of race and sexuality. Oh oh oh - this is a Crappens on Demand episode; so you can see our faces as we recap this trainwreck. Isn't that fun???? Watch it here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/46784217Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Hello and welcome to WatcherCrapins, a podcast about all that crap we just love to watch on Bravo. I'm Ben Mandelker, you can also find me on the Game Brain podcast. If you like board games, where I do, look, if you're watching and a crap is on demand, you can see all of my board games right off of my shoulder because this is a crap is on demand episode. And joining me is the one and only Ronnie Carrom. What's up, buddy? Hi! Hi, hi.

Hi, man. Hi, little work husband. How are you? Good, what's going on over there? Not much, just excited to talk about the real housewives of Orange County reunion part two and I had I just Imagine that this is crap and it's on demand, which means you can actually watch us recording and I was really here. I just wasn't on the screen. No, I wasn't telling you I was finishing a spiel. Okay It's not all about you. Okay. It's not all about you, Bronwyn.

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And Kelly has been on, you know, talking to Sashal Medea. I'm like, what the God, I'm getting fired. I don't think she's gonna get fired. I mean, she's so over the top and like her terrible taste. Like, it's just like, I just don't even, like, I think that Bravo will actually, I think Bravo will keep her around just because she's just like a fascinating car wreck. I'm black! I'm black! I'm black! Like, if that is not just like,

it's like you're putting your hands over your face, like what is happening? But at the same time, you're like, did you see what happened on O.C. last night? I think Kelly, oh my God. She's ridiculous. So we're starting back and you just see Bronwyn pulling that ponytail like faster and faster,

you know, like speed, how glacking. She's gonna be bald by the end of this. And we just left off where Bronwyn has apparently told The kids hey, you know, there's a lot of bad drugs out there in the world So if you want the good stuff call me now you know what like Bronwyn is on my last fucking nerves, but I Thought that was very nice Very maternal Just trying to save your child from bad drugs. Okay, got the woman some slack. I'll just let you have that take.

Anyway, so, but, no, I'm kidding. I won't let you hang out there. It's, this is definitely, I mean, obviously I'm kidding, but. No, I know. I know that you're kidding. I know that you're kidding. And when things are Ron is not kidding.

Oh, don't worry. You're gonna have a very difficult app Don't even start apologizing right now. It's gonna be one of those episodes It's like I can't believe you would endorse up to age drugtaking Ronnie Can be a little literal so she is 14 fucking years old. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry because I'm sorry years old. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, because you're sorry. I'm black. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm black. Did I know how drugs have ravaged my community?

I don't even remember saying that. I'm like, okay, here we go again with the, I don't remember anything because now I say, I'm an alcoholic. So I have to take, I have to take responsibility for nothing ever because I'm not as much. She remembers nothing, but the things her mother did to her. So Emily is like, this is funny what Emily says, because this is kind of a stretch, and it's kind of, I mean, she's really poking it.

She's like, if you said that to someone else's children, I have to imagine that you've said it to your own children. I don't think there's a correlation there, but imagine that you've said it to your own children. I don't think that's a correlation there, but I appreciate you trying to stoke the flames that way because that, you just went for it Emily. Yeah, but I was thinking that when, I was thinking that when she said that, but then Brahman goes, oh, I can't say for sure. I'm like, oh my God.

You did. You did say it to your own children. So Shannon's like, um, well, I have a question for you, Bronwyn, because you said on the show, and she's like, I'm sorry, I get it, okay, I am sorry, I get it, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. She's just really sorry. I'm having a nervous breakdown thing,

so Shannon's like, oh, oh, oh, okay, well. They're all happy. They've broken her, so they're all very happy about it. So, I'm like, it's okay, oh, oh, oh, oh, okay, well. They're all happy. They've broken her, so they're all very happy about it. So Emma is like, it's okay, Bronwyn. You know what, we can tell that you're a hurt. I'm like, you're the one who two seconds ago just said, well, she probably offered drugs to her kids and got the marijuana when they needed.

I'm like, she's probably hurt, it's okay. And Bronwyn goes, I'm sorry, I would never do that sober. And Emma is like, well, it's okay. I mean, I can see you're, look, I don't think everybody, I don't think Bronwyn owns a lot of stuff she does, but I think she's owning this. She is not, she thinks she can't remember because she was drunk.

That's like the opposite of owning it. I mean, I think that she, I mean, she looked pretty visibly upset. So I think that she looked like, I mean, I was impressed that she didn't say, I never did that, I never did that. You know, that was a full on opportunity for a real housewives denial moment.

Like, I would never do that. And she's just like, I don't remember. So I applaud her for not going into full denial a little bit. I'll applaud her for that. No, Bronwyn's not. Bronwyn does it differently. Bronwyn just has a different way of doing everything.

She owns everything, but then she says, sorry, and then reminds us of her victim status. It's like Emily lays it out very well later in the shop. So Bronwyn's like, well, look, I'm sorry. I did a lot of stuff when I wasn't sober, okay? And she's like pulling her hair. And Shannon's like, I understand. Because if you understand, if someone did that to my daughter, I'd go nuts. I did piss it, Bronwyn and my daughter. I mean, if you want the good stuff, still it for my purse. I mean, show some initiative, my right.

That's the red black woman on this cast. I just want to weigh in that this is a complicated issue Well have I been upset about it? Yep, and you know what? Were you in a place you don't remember saying it? So and Brahman was like I just said I did so many terrible things So many terrible things and so they can't fight about it anymore because Brahman was just crying So and they're just also so happy and it's like, oh, so happy. And he's like, let's move on and I would appreciate that number later

because I am in the OC right now. So, Gina. Gina. Gina. So, Gina, Gina is finally in the driver's seat, or technically the passenger seat of her life, but the road to happiness was paved with roadblocks. Alright, let's take a look at Gina's very boring season.

Alright, that was enough. I'm bored even in throwing it. Alright, let's just skip it. So, pretty things first. Sashaw Medea was talking about your hair this season. Alright, moment now. You know, Taylor from Tennessee wants you to rank your hair styles from worse to worse.

Let's ring up the hairstyle with everybody. All right, so now which of these hair styles would you say is the most sad and depressing shenan's words, not mine? I would never, I would never, I would never. You're right, I'm sorry, it says sad or depressing. Pick one. All right, so Gina, and Gina's like, I would never you write I'm sorry. It says sad or depressing pick one All right, so Gina's like well when they talk make tracks yeah, it was still jamming It's like you know what I'm gonna see the bottom left and the bottom right you know what

Gina you got a pot of plant this season and its name was Travis. How's he doing? Oh my god Travis is green and we're not talking about marriage now. We're just adjusting to her now right now. If you know what I'm saying right now, okay? We're just trying to adjust the having the bathtub and the living room for right now. You know, we're just getting you see idea that when we put our feet up on the couch They wind up in the guest room. Okay, it's just very small place Have you ever tried to cook some eggs in a bugbedy and he got easier right we're trying to adjust So she's talking about co-parenting with Matt and

You know she's actually proud because Matt has had to hear the truth on the show and he's he can still like Co-parent and you know they can go past grow past it or whatever and and he's like shenan what your advice for Gina It's like wow, you know I'm met with her the night she filed the restraining order. I am a good friend! Anybody? Anybody have a problem with that? I'm the best friend on the stage. I was there. And I would want peace for everyone that's divorced.

And I get it. To heal, you have to get out of the situation, Andy. All right, technically that wasn't advice. That was you just applauding yourself for being there for her. But we appreciate that anyway. Hey, by the way, how was your Thanksgiving? Oh, well, I had it with my dad Unfortunately Thanksgiving day was on the Thursday, which is pork chop day So it did make sort of an awkward dinner, but good, good Andy. Thanks for asking. But I am very thankful that they leave me is back.

It is back. So then Gina's talking about like, yeah, the whole situation with Matt and how she had to stand up for things that are unacceptable and for other women. And you know, she just, you know, she feels like she can't always be that person that speaks up for everyone else. And she is doing the victim.

She hasn't given her victim impact statement yet because of COVID, but she plans on doing it soon. And then she talks about how she hasn't talked to her kids about Matt maybe going to jail. And the truth is that he would probably only be sentenced to six months time and it'd probably house arrest and you know You know

He's white so it'll basically be a slap on the wrist more or less and then and he's like well, you know what? I think that it's so great That you found the man and Shannon. I'm so glad that you shamp found him at both of you found men off grinder Also happy for you stupid face. Oh yeah, I killed that, my wild. Yeah, I'm rigging that in the hole. All right, Rick Levin's all just ejaculated on the reunion. Can we pee? All right Rick Levin's all just ejaculated on the reunion So we go on standby so all the ladies can go pee pee and she says it because Andy's like well Gina We would you all the best can we be?

So he let's get up to go pee and Bronwyn's like oh Shannon I was so sorry She runs off and she's like all the things that might be the worst and Tell her like Emily follows her and she's like You listen you're not a bad person. You know, I've done things we all have. Now, what you did was horrible. But you know what?

You're never going to do it again, right? Just thank you, Emily. You're not a bad person, even though you probably offered cocaine to all your children at all ages. But you're not a bad person, okay? And you know, we've all done things. Not as horrible as that. Not honestly, no, we're even as close to that. The worst thing I did was I closed the door loudly once and drove away for 10 minutes, not off for cocaine to my children and possibly derail the rest of their lives, but you're not a bad person. So then we get another Shannon. I'm Latte and Spanx. I'm seeing. And then Shannon

comes back. Johnson. Well, I talked to John Johnson who doesn't want to be on the show today. And I say, John Johnson, I figured out the issue. It was the mic, not me, John. Hey, it's the moment everyone's been waiting for. We're gonna talk about Rick Levinfall. This season, her fiance, Rick Levin- Oh God, what's that? What just got on my shoulder? That's me, Rick Levinfall.

Oh, that's me, the talk Fox News. I'm gonna Fox you. So, um, this season, her fiance, Rick Levinfall, may have been drinking Kelly's love potion, but others were not exactly falling under her spell. Whether you love her, hate her, or love to hate her, want things for a certain- I'm black! No! That's not for certain at all.

Everyone has an opinion! Oh, God, but Kelly is like, oh my gosh, she's not gonna have alcohol. Okay, I'm diabetic. I'm not gonna have cake in my wedding. Oh, tell us about the water you want to do with Shannon, the water. Hey, when I knew Elizabeth, she was bad as fuck. So, what's the status of Kellyanne Shannon? And they're in a really good place because, uh... John Janssen and Rick, they just love each other, they love each other so much! I mean, to be honest, I almost feel like I don't have a boyfriend anymore, I almost feel like. I go out to get my daily meet and I come home and it's just a ghost town and I wonder

will I ever see John Janssen again and I've I've been through things and I said things I said things and now John Jansen cares more about Rick Levinthal than he does about Shadow of the Door. Am I happy? No? No? No? No? No? I'm not happy about this. I'm happy, I'm happy, I'm happy we get along so well Andy. Thank you for asking. Well you two getting along gives me faith in Everything again Uh, are Rick and so Lee getting along and oh, yes, she loves him their best friends and Who recently got married? Kelly and Rick so Kelly and Rick got married they had 20 in red, yeah. 20 people at the wedding and no one got sick. So someone asked, was it,

I saw the number 28 in my notes and I was like, are we talking about Bronwyn's girlfriend? Cause she's 20 years, right? That number just keeps coming up today. So sorry. That's four times as many children as she has. So was it irresponsible for Kelly to have a wedding with lots of

people in the middle of the global pandemic. And here's how fucked up Robo has gotten me. I'm thinking, you know, 28 people is not so bad. And I'm only saying that because Cynthia Bailey on the very same day invited like 250 people. So I'm like, oh, 20 is not so bad. When actually in reality, you're not really supposed to be having, you know, events with that many people. But,, but Elizabeth is like, well, it wasn't irresponsible if everyone got tested. I guess what the results were, they were Un-den-i-able, hypocritical, unbelievable. Dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-ada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada-dada I mean Kelly's like well I'm glad I did it no one got sick and it was wonderful And Bron was just like giving her a judgey like from across the stage and And he's like but was it irresponsible and Kelly's like oh, you know what the protesting is okay?

That's okay, I guess you can protest like I celebrate Dear not this whole not this whole What is it called? Something that was chestnut again. So, is that even the right thing? I don't know. So Megan is like, so I'm like Megan. Megan from Colorado says,

it was disappointing to see you call protesters looters. As a Mexican-American, don't you think you have a responsibility to stand with your fellow marginalized community? At this point, I think all the viewers were just now like, okay, we're gonna put on our seat belts and get ready to cringe for the rest of the evening. I was looking for the check. I was looking around the room like somebody just bring me the check. Please, I don't even want to sit through this. I don't want to have to talk about it afterwards. I just because I know I'm gonna laugh in the middle and this is very difficult Okay, so Kelly is of course gives the whole you know all the problems protesters and

She's like yeah when it's peaceful shows yeah, but it's peaceful But you know what I saw wasn't that it was like looting and burning down buildings and Andy's looking at her like you fucking idiot Like how much time did you have to prep for this you can't even say the right thing one time It's like literally like tens of thousands of people protesting around the globe and like you know 50 to a fit like like the tiniest percentage out of that group Like you know caused a ruckus Which no one literally no one approved of and it was widely condemned and that's like oh They burned out all of New York City and God's to look you on the water was like where am I building this step on

He's like well Bronwyn, you know in contrast you got really involved with BLM Did you invite the ladies to come with you or was there not room with your photographers and she's like, well, Bronwyn, you know, in contrast, you got really involved with BLM. Did you invite the ladies to come with you or was there not room with your photographers? And she's like, oh no, actually I did invite the ladies. There was a protest in Newport. And I saw Kelly posting a photo of herself in downtown Corona, Dalmar. So I said, you know what, I'm going to be there. If you guys were, and she was like, you didn't invite us. You didn't invite us. Don't say that you invited us.

That did not happen. And he would not invite it. Right? I love this argument because they're right. If she didn't invite them, she just said, oh, I'm going down there. If you like, maybe I'll see you there. But I also like the idea that like, maybe if the women had received a formal invitation, maybe they would have gotten protested, but they didn't.

So they just didn't say anything. Which I just think is hilarious. So he's like, well, Sashal Medias man over drunk wives matter hat Kelly. And then we see the picture of her like, and her drunk wives matter hat. It's like, that was two years old. Look at it. I didn't even buy that hat. My friend Megan, Megan Susser, it's like she says the girl's name on. It's like, you want me yelling? My friend Megan Megan Susser is like she says the girl's name on like She's like my friend Megan bought the hat. I was just trying everything on in my brother Sarah What do you want from me? And Elizabeth is like yeah, and there were a bunch of drunk wives with that party to be fair

I mean it works pretty fitting She loves a little hat She's like well and the other day I was with a bunch of sleepywaves, so we're my sleepywaves matter hat, okay? It makes sense Yeah, like it wasn't to mock BLT's okay I like it with avocado I'm blad I love a blad So my my 47 amese says blad! Big and lettuce avocado and Rick the T and Rick Levin fall!

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So thank you. Thank you Kelly. Okay, Brahmins. Okay. Brahmins was being nice. Brahmins was trying to help out Kelly there a little bit. She was like, the point is, the whole point of this is to know better and to do better,

which is true. I mean, the whole thing is like, hey, everyone just know that this is happening, and just like, maybe open your eyes to it, right? And do better, and everyone be better, and think better, and like, you know, broaden your perspectives. So she's just sort of like saying,

thank you, Kelly, at which point Kelly could have dropped it, and she goes, I didn't do it to-beal I'm at all, okay? I wasn't being delicious and and getting attacked by this cancel culture I mean so a bunch of haters out there that would never have any voice and here they are getting together coming after me I love that like a reality star is complaining about people who like having a voice that like they wouldn't otherwise have a voice reality stars complaining about people who like having a voice that like they wouldn't otherwise have a voice It's like you're on reality TV. Yeah, and Brahman's like yeah, but it's not just haters Like it's people who are repressed galley and she's like, you know what? I have four African American friends, okay

And then they just show Brahman crimson. And the ambience like covering your space, hiding up those chairs. Like, the facts are in four out of four black people say it's okay, it's okay, I'm black. Oh my god, and then, you know, like, you're a BLT protest where you have photography and sicking pictures of you. Like, you haven't done anything for bacon, let us orcs have made up a for this. And now it's trendy and you're so woke. And Brom was like, well, I own that though. She's like, oh yeah, you're real woke.

And then you can say, we're not woke. I was like, you can't come out of my blanket. You still won't say why a drug that vice matter thing is wrong, Kelly. Come on. I mean, like Bronwyn bringing a professional photographer to take pictures of her at it is tacky and it does like undermine maybe her sincerity but Kelly's like it

defeats the whole purpose. I'm like it actually doesn't defeat the whole purpose actually oddly enough in a way it actually support and actually is helpful to have even more photos of it out. But yeah and Bronwyn doesn't, she definitely, does she explain why she had the photographer there? Did she? No. She got out of that one.

So, she said, I was drunk. So now that we remember, I was drunk your last year, you know, so now all the women start pulling the, like we support BLM, we just don't post about it everywhere. And that's the difference. I'm like, that's literally the lack of a difference Actually that you're making like you support it privately. I mean, it's good. It's good that you support it But like all of a sudden all these women are like demure like I

I don't want to be too loud and the in public. I don't want to make I don't want Actually Elizabeth he's like well, we do everything behind the scenes because we don't need the attention from it Unlike all the cue posts that I was posting about the inserach you know all this shit that she was posting during You guys have no problem posting your political Charities every other charity. It's like gotta spread the word It's like oh BLM. We just don't post about it everywhere that's all that's all we're just more sophisticated about it I'm like please please name something you know so Bronwyn's like look but when I sent you that text you know I sent you that

Texas say I was going to the protest and she called me a bad mom and Kelly sent me racist text and that's some call it goes, my God, I'm black! I hate cuts to Gina going, mm, wait, he just, I just like like, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, that said drunk wives matter. I've been doing things for black people way before. Okay, I don't have to announce it, okay? I've been doing things for gays for years, okay? I don't have to say, oh, I saw Andy Cohen and Fire Island. I don't have to do that,

cause that's doing something for the gay community. I saw Andy Cohen and Fire Island, okay? I'm black. And Andy's like, what? Like he's looking like, what the fuck does any of this even mean, you know? Analysts just like, okay, and I can see you confused You're confused you're perturbed you're disturbed. All right. Let me explain it to you. All right. This is why we're upset

We support these communities. We're not pop-up hostess We're not muppet hostess. We know what my heart The things they may be behind the things and coast like look at look at my 43 in me. Okay. I'm a honda swing, they're behind the swings. And she goes, look at my 43 in me, okay? I'm black, I'm Native American, and I be Asian in me too. Yeah, that's why I can go around and be really offensive to Asians too if I want, because I've got Asian in me.

God, I know, it's like she's making a pre-warning, warning notes of what's about to come. Okay, solly went on instagram today and uh... she says watch tonight and bravo reunion part two when i yelled i'm black it was because i'm part of a much larger argument no i don't identify as african american but yes i'm part black four percent

and i've been discriminated against for my mexican heritage fifty four percent Spanish Portuguese and by the way i'm also twenty eight percent native American and I've experienced racism and it's a trigger for me when others who haven't tried to weaponize racism against me so I pride for my twenty three me and then it does show hers what I have Rick Levin thought. Oh no, Kelly Levin thought. European 64.4, probably European one point something. East Asian 28.9, Native American 27.9. And then Rick Levin thought's dick, 100%.

It's all in me. Oh, like Kelly still missing the point. No one's taking away the racism that she has endured and that's terrible that she's endured. I think everyone's just saying like, and also nobody can also nobody can deny which comes and I'm sorry to interrupt you But no one can deny the racism the Mexicans face in this country. I mean nobody can deny that we all hear it all the time Especially in the past in the recent past we've heard it quite a bit And so I don't think that any because Bronman says something later where she's like, well, I think we've all benefited from White privilege,

which I think is true, but don't diminish what Mexicans go through either, because that's some shit. No, but I think that like, I think where people are particularly frustrated, well, they're frustrated for a variety of reasons with Kelly Dodd, but I think where, where especially in light of that,

that it seems for, for people, it seems from what we can see that she's not using the experience, the terrible things that she went through as like a way to empathize what other groups are going through and realize like that they're all. Oh no, I get it. Yeah, I just had to give a shout out to my homies out there. Yeah, there you go. I'm from El Paso, okay. Don't tell me that Mexicans don't face anything. So yeah, we get it. Yeah, I just had to give a shout out to my homies out there. Yeah. There you go. From out of Paso. Okay. Don't tell me that Mexicans don't face anything.

So yeah, we get it. But Elizabeth is like, and he asks Elizabeth if she's experienced racism because she's half Mexican and she's like a hundred million percent I did. I mean, that's, you know, my father told me you're never going to learn Spanish. You're a little Mexican girl and you're gonna succeed anyway And he's like so He didn't want you to learn Spanish cuz and Emma's like totally normal Andy it happens That's what happened here. We just don't talk about it. You know so

And then this is always fun right here. Um, so Shannon right here. Um, so Shannon. Because Shannon's sitting there like trying to be like invisible. Like if she's like, if I'm very still, if I'm very still in my spanks do not betray me, they won't notice that I'm here. And so it's like so Shannon. What do you say about Black Lives Matter? Finally, we get to, we get to talk about this with you. And she's, well, Andy, I've never been a political person.

And I was raised that you keep your political beliefs to yourself, and that's what I continue to do. I'm not a bad person, but I'm not going to become political person at 56. That's it. I'll tell you what I will be at 56. Someone who makes lemon tinctures. Let's talk about that.

Lemon tinctures matter. That's what I gotta say. I'm like, um, Shannon, I did not love that answer for you. Did not love that answer at all. Like you could have given a supportive answer that did not make you quote unquote political. It's okay. And by you saying, you don't want to say something

cause it'll make you political is actually an inherently political thing to say. But it's really sad that it is even political. It shouldn't be political at all. It should be like black lives matter Should not be a political issue. It's insane that it has even become one because it's not one It's so amazing. Thank you Emily you told Shalma Diaz and he reads a tweet from her tonight A real housewives of Orange Kelly Ron win excuses her behavior by acting like a victim of the people in circumstances around her. Not to be confused by previous episodes, where she excuses her behavior,

but acting like the victim of the people in circumstances around her. And, uh, good call. I mean, good call by me. True, although they kind of all do that. So Emily is like, yeah, she said nasty things about every person up here, and she has to take responsibility. Yeah! Oh, I was, I was on, she was on national TV and say horrible things about every person up here and just take responsibility. Yeah! I was on national TV and say horrible things about us. I mean first, throwing first jobs first. I don't even know what that means, but throwing first jobs first, which in this environment

is dangerous. I mean it's libus. You can't say libus things on TV. It's libus. And she was watching ET or is I like to call it since I'm blog? BET? Okay. it's rude. So Shannon's like, oh god, to take you have zero support. And it's like, well, what are you guys talking about?

So is this clip on entertainment tonight, which we see. And Shannon's like, she said we're racist and homophobes. So we see the clip and everyone's like, there is no one I can turn to in the cast I mean when it comes to how I feel vocally about BLM and LGTBQ I mean there is no one I can turn to guys no one Which well I would say this I don't know that I'd necessarily disagree either with how they're yelling about the black lives matter thing But exactly I don't I mean was it kind of a snotty thing to say? Yes.

Was it wrong? Not sure. And by the way, that is also different than saying these people are racists and homophobes. They kind of brought that to the table. She is saying, like, I just can't talk to them about this stuff. We don't think that. She's suggesting that. She's suggesting that.

She's suggesting that they're projecting it all right there, right? So, so, Brawman's trying to explain herself and she's like, I just can't talk to anyone on this cat. That's what I said, I can't talk. And then, let's be like, oh, did you ever ask me? Okay, did you ever ask me? Cause guess what, I'm Martian Soma. True story, I'm Martian Soma.

It's like, no. She said that? No, no, I'm just joking. I was lying. I was making it. I was lying about her lying. No, no, no, no. I was over about what? No, could you imagine if she said that? So, Bronwyn and Kelly are yelling because Kelly's like, you called me a racist. So, like, no, I didn't, you know, I have it verbatim right here. They said, do I have anyone to talk to about this stuff? And I said no. And Emily's like, yeah, well, what are you even talking about?

I went to a drag show with you and your son. Like I was there with you, which is like going to a drag show. All of a sudden it doesn't make you. I know. And then they show, but then they show this footage of, they're going to some drag show that looks like it's being held in the bottom of a Marriott. And then Emily is like the most mom person there because she sits down and she's like,

waves the camera like, hi kids, I'm out of drag show. So then Kelly, Kelly and now here to one up about her track record with the gay. She goes, I haven't gone to gay pride brands for like 25 years. I mean, all my friends are gay. Did you not. She goes, I haven't gone to gay pride brands for like 25 years. I mean, all my friends are gay. Did you not hear me say I saw Andy coming to Fire Island?

I did so much for the gays. I socialized with him. Oh my God. And Bronwyn's like, you said that having sex with women is the same as eating raw tuna. It's like, it is! Even for guys! And Bronwyn's like, well, if your fat smells like Tuna,

then you need to go to the doctor, okay? So things start to now like warm up a little bit, now they're kind of getting joky and everything. And she said, well, you said I was sexually confused. And she was like, well, you know, you married a man, but you're married to a man, but you're also dating girls. I mean, it's confusing. It's confusing And bromo's like I can't even talk to you guys. You wonder why this is why this is why and Andy's like clearly

They all disagree with you and bromo goes I'm not sexually confused. Oh well you were the whole season I mean we can see it. I mean I'm by but whatever But you know, Elizabeth is truly a housewife. She manages to turn every single Conversation back to her. I mean, that's a very it's a very big housewife quality. And she sneaks it in she's I'm I mean I don't make any special but I'm not practicing It's like non-practicing so Broncos. What? She's grandma starts laughing. She was like well, I thought she was gay when I first met her I tried to kiss her

Everyone's like and Kelly's like what's the problem you didn't find to attract him Elizabeth and Elizabeth's like the problem is Is married which haven't children okay? I don't practice it and then Gina's like is it a voyolina something practice it? God hearing the real Housewives of Orange County talk about shit like this, you just, you have to laugh. I'm sorry, you have to laugh. I was laughing, but I was also like, oh my god. Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's the point of the show. I think people sometimes forget the point of the show is you watch these people say these crazy things and you just shake your head and say What?

Internation is gone into them. How do these people get through life? I mean, it was just it was remark it's remarkable. You're cringing and you're also laughing so how truly so then So the best part is that while while is talking about, I'm bi, yeah. Andy is like, I can't help but be amused at Shannon over there and Shannon's like, ah, ah, I don't know, it's okay. I mean, it's all good.

I don't wanna be political, so I'll keep my views to myself. But we have a big ol' you know what? Right next to me apparently. Whoa, whoa. And so then we asked, he asked about Jimmy. It's Jimmy okay with it. And she's like, well, it's what it is. She know women are beautiful.

So, and it's like, okay, Andy. Andy's like, Ron winder up this up. It seems like you're trying to do a lot at once. I mean, you got your sexuality, your marriage, your kids, your sobriety. one of those things is a lot. Do you think you're doing too much? It's like, yeah. And you know what?

I've had those conversations with my therapist, and that's why I have to take a step back, Andy, you know? So I've stopped mothering officially. I'm taking a step back, which is why I'm trying to reclaim my youth with this crazy outfit today. So now, all right, let's switch gears. All right, one can take comfort that when the housewives take trips, things get messy, and dramatic, and this season was no exception.

Oh, sorry, this season wasn't exception. This wasn't exception. Nothing happened on the on the trips this season. Okay, let's roll that footage. So we see all their wacky vacation stuff and Shannon's like they are, Shannon and Kelly have like a little butt heads moment over who was supposed to cook an arrowhead because Shannon had a suitcase of fun to come and I was supposed to cook and Kelly's like, oh, I was supposed to cook.

So they have like a fight about who's a better cook and Kelly's like, oh, we're supposed to go! So they have a fight about who's a better cook, and Kelly's like, oh, I'm a great cook! And then we cut to everything on fire in their overhead. But she did put together what looked to be a legitimate meal. I mean, she literally had salmon cooked in pastry. I was like, what? So, when someone said that in the unedited footage

that she had put like lamb shoulder or something into braze into the instant pot and didn't put the pot in. And it wasn't done. So I think that's what everyone else is referring to, but he knows. Well, so, what was your favorite part of the vowel in your rolls? And she's like, well, I thought that when Shannon was talking to, but he knows. Well, so, well, Bra, what was your favorite part of the vowel in your rules? And she's like, well, I thought that when Shannon was talking to my kids, drawing only that was the best,

because it reminded me of the time when I talked to her kids that one time, and oh, no, actually, never mind, I won't get into this again. So, is this where we move on to Elizabeth's stuff? Yeah, there's this like really awkward voice over, like clearly recorded in post where it's like, oh yeah, that was a fun time. Now let's talk about the cult.

All right, Elizabeth. That was not for the cult. So, um, so now Elizabeth is talking about, you know, all the terrible things that happened in her childhood with that religious cult. And she's talking about how she's feeling, like why is this even on the show? Because it's like, she's so frustrated,

she didn't want this to be on the show. She's going through all these emotions and talking about how adults fucked her up and she has to live with it. And she has huge PTSD from this horrific cult that she was in. Yeah, and her grandmother was the founder of the cult, which I forgot about. And he's like, so what's the tentative of this cult?

And she said, money and greed. And they had all these crazy books that the brother got out of before they demolished it. And it was just crazy and sad. And they escaped in like a cattle rig. Yeah, her mom got her Washington. Her mom found an 18 wheeler, which I thought I was like, I would like to hear more about that. And your mom got an 18 wheeler because I feel like there's a really good story behind that one.

And then she's like, you know, a normal person in the OC never would have experienced that. And so that's why I'm really, you know, I want to have my cookie cutter perfection and all my jewels and my cars Because I want people to think I'm just normal like one of them and Emily's like so you thought we wouldn't accept you I mean, you know, I like the vulnerable Elizabeth. I love when you're honest You know so when you lies that we back away and Shannon's like yes We love poor people Look at me and Tina. I love her.

She's great. Shannon's just like gaining power from Elizabeth's crying. So by any way, Elizabeth is still seeing her therapist and she's a survivor, not a victim, and she's never going to let those people win. So good for her and, you know, I hope that she continues to be on the up and up from all of that. So then, next up, we're gonna bring Sean out, we're gonna bring Sean out. And Sean's like, who, who's Sean?

Bring out who, who's that? Who's this? Who's Sean? Who's Sean? I start charities. Was that appropriate to say? And then why did Sean? Oh, Sean!

Oh God! I'm so goofy and wacky! You should have said the person that Bronwyn's been abusing all season! I would have been there! What a privilege for you to have your husband here. I wonder what it must be like to have some sort of boyfriend by having your back and not outplaying golf, which it apparently hates with his father

who he apparently hasn't seen in 20 years. Ha! So then, uh, sounds like I'm good, Andy. I just feel like I'm kind of crashing a party here. Ha! Ha! Ha! And Andy's like, well, you know, we gotta talk about another big party of journey. Let's take a look.

And it's so, it's like the renewing of the vows thing. It's like, wow, you know, we've seen the renewing of the vows lead to disaster, but I don't think ever this quickly. No, this was a very swift, swift destruction. I was really impressed. I'm trying to keep paying the bills. Good. Thank you.

Everybody heard it. I'm a lesbian. And then a montage of Bronwyn just being so nasty to Sean. So, so why did it take Bronwyn so long to come to terms with their sexuality? And she says that it didn't really correlate with what she wanted because she, she knew she was a lesbian, but she also wanted a house and the children and the family and all this and that. So I guess she was just trying to have a classic heterosexual fantasy. Heteronormative.

Heteronormative lifestyle, which of course you can totally have if you are lesbian to BT dubs. But she's never been attracted to men physically and she's, and then she's like, so have you never been attracted to men physically. And she's, and then, and she's like, so have you ever been attracted to Sean? And she's like, I, I haven't been. And it breaks my heart to say it. And you just see Sean just sitting there like, blink, blink, blink, like, everything's fine.

Everything's fine. Yeah, and he's like, well, I would imagine it breaks your heart to hear it and he goes, well, you know what? Like, when I think back, when things were passionate about, when things were passionate, it always involved drinking, you know, and we're best friends, but that was challenging. And he's like, so what was your action when she said, this is who I am?

He's like, well, it was a relief in a way, Andy, because it just made everything make a lot more sense or whatever. So then Andy asks about Sherry and what role she played all in this, she played in all this. And problem was like, she kept me sober and I was like, oh, well glad you've learned about codependency. I like right.

Right, God. So it's like, I didn't want to be on this person's side, but it's so hard. She's like, I mean, I'm with my best friend, but then I'm falling in love with her and like, she wanted me to leave Sean for her, but I just couldn't do that. I just couldn't do that. I just couldn't do that.

Yeah, because they went on like a trip to like Zion or something like that. So, but Sherry isn't a lesbian, they just had a thing. And by the way, nothing was physical, it was just all emotional. So all the women are like, okay. So, but then Sherry left, because, you know, Bronwyn couldn't really commit to Sherry,

because she still want to figure out things with Sean. So, they Sherry left and they decided to have an open marriage. And Elizabeth is like, oh, so does he get today? Does he get today? And I'm probably like, oh, well, I'm not finishing my story. It's gonna get even sadder from here on out. So then when she got back from her trip, the nanny came into the room.

This is so telling a novella, the nanny came into the room. I was crying. Crying. The nanny came in. So upset because the nanny I'm sure really cares about these two people that I'm sure make her life hell and said that Sean had someone over while Bronwyn was out on her trip with Sherry.

And Bronwyn's like, she had been in my home in the bed, met the baby. I mean, you wouldn't believe it. Um, so... That... that happened. Yeah, like... Oh my god, this whole thing, I was like, what are you doing? And then the ladies are screaming the whole time, like, well, why is it not fair?

Would you see it today? It's like she can't get it out, but then the story just gets so much more awkward as it goes along. And she says, well, you know what, we went to therapy and we said, we're going to do what we want. We're going to stay together. And so they start kind of getting on her about the rules.

And Emily's like, well, how are you supposed to date somebody seriously when you're married with seven kids, you know? I'm just like, because we're best friends. And Elizabeth goes, well, I have a good divorce lawyer. And Brauma's like, but I don't want a divorce. And she goes, I've got you down. But he, he, he, he he might, which is true.

I think it was Andy who says, so what if a girl says to you, Sean, I really like you, but I don't like that you have a wife, you know? And he's like, yeah, well, you know, we're just gonna cross that bridge when we get to it. I am not allowed to say anything more because Brawman's giving me the look and I'm a little scared right now.

I'm a little scared. Can you imagine my profile? It's like seven kids married. I don't think I'm the top of the list there. And Kelly's like, yeah, unless you go to Mormonville, like Emily over there. And Emily's like, okay.

I'm on your side, so I'm gonna not yell at you for about that, yell at you about that right now. Okay. So then Andy asks how old the girlfriend is and Brian has a girlfriend now. Yeah, because she has a girlfriend and she's 28. And Andy's like, how does that make you feel, Sean? And so I'm like, well, it's hard, but you know, she is happy

and we don't fight. Well, Sean, I'm glad you learned all the lessons about being an enabler. So what happens if Sean meets a woman at a bar and then wants to have sex with her. And I don't he doesn't really get to answer that because they all the women start chiming in saying that basically Gina's like it sounds like that brawn win like she has the brand the boundaries and they just move where she wants them to move you know. And he's like yeah, it sort of looks like you just, like, like, braw when you do what you want

and then Sean just cleans it up. Is that how it works? Yeah. And she's like, yeah, she makes messes and he cleans it up. You know, you physically abused him and we're all going to pretend it didn't happen and that's very hard for me, Bronwyn.

And Andy's like, yeah, you did say that you hit him twice. And Bronwyn's like, I mean, yes, I slapped him. I did slap. And you hit him. And Andy's like, well, the responses say that you hit him twice. And Brian was like, I mean, yes, I slapped him. I did slap. And you hit him. And Andy's like, well, the responses were that if this, if you were a man, you know, you would have been fired and you would have had all this stuff happen to you. And she's like, yeah, you know, it would have

destroyed your family. And Brian was like, I mean, it was horrible, but like, what was happening was I was trying to go for a drink and he was restraining me. And Sean says yeah I mean listen I've been 25 years like I enabled her a lot so I benefited from that and I knew what was gonna happen I mean I put myself in the way from her drinking. I mean I basically set myself up for that guys It's like yeah, he's like it's he's like it's not my fault

I know it's not my fault, but I was the one who caused that to happen. I basically hit myself. That's what I'm saying. And he goes, and after she slapped me, she cried, was in a ball, and she regretted it immediately. And I'm like, listen, I support if they wanted to an open marriage

and she wants to have a girlfriend, whatever on the side, like I say, do what, do your food, whatever makes it work. But that big set. Do your food. You guys kinda sound like a mess and you guys probably have to, you should probably get it together

because it's not gonna be long before the start to really impact your kids. Yeah, you've got seven kids. Seven kids, that's like a lot of damage to go around. I've got a lot of, yeah. A lot of cases. Yeah, exactly. So, and he says, well, you know, my happiness

comes from the kids, and we have a lot of kids. So, if I don't ever date again, and I just get to spend time with my kids, I'm fine with that. And Kelly's like, you're insane. And she's like, yes, we have so much empathy for you, Sean, because, you know, Bronwyn said to us this season, this is me time. And you've got seven children and you keep posting your picks that you're out here

and you're traveling there and you're traveling there. And Bronwyn's like, you guys, I have my baby like all day, okay? And then we got to, we got a reframe of the, we have all these nannies. So we can have one in one time with our kids. We just, we just don't post about it. You know how like Black Lives Matters is to you guys? That's what our children are to us. Oh my God, it's just don't post about it.

She's basically like, you know, the nannies also do our grocery shopping. So we have nannies do our grocery shopping. So then I can be with the baby while they're running errands. And I'm just like oh my god I know that Bronwyn is trying to make this all sound okay but she just makes herself sound a worse and worse as she goes along and so I was like yeah we spend most of our times with our kids yeah we just don't post about it and Andy's like well let's talk more about how you explained all

this to the children and you know Bella doesn't like it but of course Rowan and Jekyll are okay with it. Yeah, yeah, Jekyll. And she's like, you know, Sean says, I just hope we can make it work and still stay together. And Sean goes, I hope we can maintain a good decent structure for the family. I was like, you guys, while you're killing it, you're really doing it. I mean, well, I're killing it. You're really doing it. I mean, well, I look forward to seeing this. It's a little, it's just a little bit of a disaster. And I'm not like a big fan of just, well, you have to be totally normal and it has to be one mom and what that and someone has to be help, you know,

like I'm totally open to the idea. And what I really supported at first through the whole season is like, wow, they're going to really work in on traditional marriage. And but I don't know, this just has disaster. It just, it just seems like there's like a lot of resentments and a lot of issues that haven't been resolved. They've just been patched over by this, rather than deal with certain things,

we're just gonna have this whole arrangement, like there was obviously, there were, there just are so many issues. And I guess we'll just see how it plays out. I guess it'll just be, it'll be a journey they will have have to go on won't they so Now we get to the final segment and it's time to bring out some mocktails We're gonna get some mocktails and Elizabeth's like what's that? What's a mocktail?

Mack, you know, Mack it means to make fun of so if you ever saw early seasons where David Bedora was on and he would mock me by eating chips in my face, that would be called a mockery. That's the word mock. David Bedore mock. So what did you guys learn this season? And he's like, Oh, go first. I learned that if I was in fear of COVID, I would have got married to two houses. I mean, I would have Rick was still being New York, you know? Like I'm not afraid and that's that's progressed me Andy. It's like okay so great.

So she's like I just want to get one more terrible hot taken here. I'm like you realize you could have done all those things and bet like it's not about being afraid of COVID. It's about being prudent or what's the word careful? You could have literally done all those things and a lot of people have done all those things and it doesn't have to be like, because I wasn't afraid of the disease! Oh my god, it's like what did you learn Kelly? Nothing! I think you just say that and save us all the time. So then Shannon, oh sorry. I was just gonna say that I learned that I love One thing I did catch a lot of was dick

So Emily's like you know, I learned home port and families and they all have pretty lame answers everything Everything was this I learned the importance of family I learned the importance of small things. I'm sure everything everything was this I learned the importance of family learn the importance of small things I'm like well You all should have learned that a long time ago by the way, so and then let's get let's get let's set Emily lead us out with a toast And I was like, oh good. This will be entertaining. No, she's like Everybody for being a strong woman cheers women and power man And then they all stand up by the way and Andy almost falls over and he's like I'm stand up by the way, and Andy almost falls over. And he's like, I'm totally sober by the way, totally sober.

But we are going to use this clip for the next 10 years because we've been running too. We can only show the shot of Teresa pushing me back into my chair so many times. Here's my news, lapsick clip. I know, you guys sick of using the Teresa clip. Now here, Andy is throwing himself into a chair. So they finish. You know what, it's a good reunion. Orange County always brings a good reunion.

I don't care what anyone says. They can have a slow season. They've had slow seasons and they will always have a good reunion. You know what? They really did. They really did. They ended up a high note for me. A high note alone note. All at once. But a low note on real housewives is kind really ended up in a high note for me. A high and a low note, all at once.

But a low note on Real Housewives is kind of the same as a high note sometimes. So. Yeah. And that's the end of the season, everybody. We made it. We made it. It's the end of our brains.

Yeah. Yeah, thank you all for watching. Looking forward, I'm sure everyone's going to have a lot of very specific opinions about this reunion. So looking forward to reading those. And again, check this out on Crapison Demand, although I guess by now you probably listened the whole episode.

So we'll be back tomorrow with... Oh, Southern Charm reunion should be more great hot takes there. Can't wait for that one. It'll be super fun. And thank you all for listening and watching, and we'll talk to you on the next episode. Bye! Bye everyone! A black! Watch what crap ends with like to think it's premium sponsors.

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