Watch What Crappens - RHOC: Dungeons and Draggings

Episode Date: December 16, 2021

Real Housewives of Orange County finds Shannon getting zero forgiveness from Heather, Gina babbling on about how nothing is her fault, and Noella getting abandoned by and cut off from the not so Sweet James. This week's bonus is a breakdown of the Real Housewives of Miami trailer, which begins this week on Peacock. Find all of our premium bonus episodes at https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens, and get tickets for our Winter Tour at https://www.watchwhatcrappens.com/10th-anniversary-hunky-dory-tourSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Orange County before I went to bed. And so as a result, I had a stress stream with Heather DeBro. And I have to tell you, when Heather DeBro shows up in your dreams, that's not an experience to be taken lightly. I had a classic stress dream, which is that I had some sort of assignment due, and I hadn't done it yet, sort of like homework. But in this stress dream, Heather DeBro was the professor,

and I'm telling you, it was horrifying, it was terrible. I got woke up so stressed. Yeah, that is terrifying, because she's a scary person with her big black button eyes but you'd like Heather DeBrow being like well This is what the assignment is and you need to do it and I'm sorry you did not get it right But I'm unfortunately you cannot have extra time. It's like as she just looks at you that piercing you cannot have extra time. It's like, as she just looks at you that piercing

communion alien face like this was my assignment. It was on the syllabus and you just are like devastated by it. If you think this assignment is above you, you better get a ladder! Her opening line. I'm telling you now before the end of the season. I'm probably already gonna rage today because Heather is such an asshole, but by the end of the season, my head is going to pop hearing that line every single week. Every single week hearing that. So before we dive into it, of course, just a reminder, go to watchcraftpins.com because we've got tickets on sales. For our live tours, live tour, our shows are coming back, live shows starting next month. And we always have a wonderful time doing it.

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So here we are at Jen Rosenfeld's office. So Shannon is going to Jen's office to get some stuff done. And Dr. Jen, just Jen Rosenfeld. Oh, is this a different Jen? This is not the this is not the cast member Jen this this Jen is is not a doctor. In fact, this is a nurse practitioner Jen and she has two ends. She also has two ends. Oh, she's a double N-gen. Okay. Double N-gen. Well, I stand corrected, which also is a double R word. Okay. So I'm going to put a double consonant in my word of apology. Yeah.

Well, and guess what? I am here to get some treatment from Gen because, wow, well, you know, Gen, I did notice I smiled at the mirror yesterday and I did notice it's better. You know, it it's and when I say it's better. I'm not talking about my fillers I'm talking about my ability to smile now. I only do a half round when I smile and soon I'll get it all the way. She was semi-circle pointing upwards Please tell me you have some dissolver because I looked at myself and it was like leather I mean Look I wake up like this.

She smushes her cheek because she sleeps on her face of her fillers like reform in her face, I guess. And then you're walking around with a coaster on your face, basically. Which explains it, because during the trailer, I was like, God, Shannon looks a little worse for wear this season and it must be that she just overdid it with the filler at the reunion. And now she's trying to like work it out of her system.

Yeah. So, Noella joins and she's like, oh, I know. And we see one day earlier they talked and Noelle was like, well, I'd love to have lunch or something with you. So, well, tomorrow I'm going to laser, would you be open to going with me there? Yeah, that's not fun. Watching me get my coaster face worked on. I don't know if it's supposed to be fun for anybody. I mean, if you said you want to go like maybe get some filler with me or do you want to go get girls treatments?

Come on, let's do it. But do you want to sit there and watch me get my filler dissolve? Fuck, no, I don't. I would rather you buy me lunch. Thank you. But what else has Nuella really doing these days? Right? She's literally just sitting there waiting

for someone to invite her somewhere. Because it's definitely not gonna be her husband. So she comes in and Shannon, they're putting needles in her face and everything. And Nuella's holding her toes or something, Shannon's toes. She goes, well, my husband holds my hand during my filler. Oh! And Shannon's like, well, you know what? I am not a good needle person. I'll take you that much. I do not like a needle.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, eat a needle. 40 negative thoughts. Oh, Jen, stop it. Stop the pig, Jen! Lviv, I've got me over my fair of needles. And Shannon's like, oh, wow, a grade. I'm glad this scene that was about me. It's about me, anymore. So you had a surrogate. Great. Tell me more. I just can't wait to hear about it. So, fine, fun, Shannon. I would like to know who is IVF and what charity is as she started. Who is this IV person? Well, you know, Adam miscarriage and then I did an IVF and a surrogate for my son and then the surrogate had a miscarriage,

so we did it with another surrogate. Oh, well, I'm sorry to hear that. It's been a journey, it's been a journey, but then we had him and he is yummy. Absolutely yummy. Well, if you had to pick a day of the week meat for what kind of yummy, would he be a Tuesday chicken north, Thursday salami? I mean, he's gonna be more specific about the yumminess. I just wanna clear something up here.

Well, it's no hell, right? I just want, are you coming into my scene with more pain than I have because that's really not very, I mean, I'm in a good place right now, but when it comes to pain, you're not allowed to, pain me, okay? Ah, well. So we find out about New Well, our her son has autism and they found out when he was just a little

baby and she's like, whoa, I mean, it's fine. He loves his brain. It's just me who has to destigmatize. And she talks a little bit about that. And Shannon, meanwhile, is getting one of her sperm facials or whatever the hell that thing is that she gets all over her face. And so, Noelle, it goes on. And she's like, well, this is actually so exciting.

We have a house in Puerto Rico. And unfortunately, there were some financial things that were not just close to me by my husband. So I just cannot wait to be done selling this house. I just want to be done with it. And Shannon's just sitting there with her mask on her face, looking like Michael Myers. Just like I'm waiting for Cal Richards to pop up and be like, you want to run lines?

Should we run lines? So, Noelle has just been in shock about her husband's debts because initially she was told that they just had a one-lein for 4 million, which is already a lot, but then turns out there's two leans and it's close to 6 million that they owe the IRS and she says that it's just like a very big stressor and for her and for the marriage. Yes. Oh wow, well, this is turning out to fill me in more ways than I expected.

Could you fill your problems right now right into my cheek? And because your problems are just so new and so natural, they feel so good. Wow. And your secrets are safe with me, Nilella. So gosh, I would love to read that paragraph on your shirt. What is this dress like? Coco, live like Jackie, act like Audrey, laugh like God, I'm exhausted. That's a long shirt. What is this dress like cocoa, live like Jackie, act like Audrey, laugh like God I'm exhausted. That's a long shirt. So thanks for that.

It's a lot of text and I'm afraid I don't actually understand any of the references. So Shannon says, well you know, trust in honesty are the foundation of any relationship. And after the infidelian my marriage to David, we had something called a day of truth. And I asked all the questions, and I got a lot of answers, and there were a lot of foam tombstones that I had to then lie down under and declare myself dead.

But, you know, I, so I worry for Noella moving forward. I worry that she may have upwards of 50 to 70 negative thoughts, which is more than any woman should really have. So, Noella, I've learned my lesson about trusting, especially regarding that party the other night. Yes, I am taking it from autism and having a husband compulsively lying to you and having a bad time. I'm going to take that and talk about my bad time at a party in a band. Oh, dear! Now, I have to say, I really appreciate your support. When I was standing there in the kitchen and you were so kind to stay with me and then start screaming about being a bisexual,

wow! That was a certain kind of hug. I've never had before. I mean, here, here I thought I was standing next to some sort of novelty oversized kitchen whisk and it turns out it was you and I thought well She has a lovely lovely woman. So you know, I have to say I did think I had a closer bond with Emily and Gina Given that we've become friends the past four to six days So I thought that I thought that we were close. I thought we were forever friends. I thought we were the new Trace Amiga. Trace. I'm so fun.

Aren't I so fun, Noella? I said Trace Amiga's, oh God. But I was betrayed. You share a spinach dip with somebody and you think that you're friends for life, but apparently not. So, and Noella's like, oh. I don't know why you're beating yourself up so much

like this, Salmon. She's like, because I really had a close friendship with Emily years ago, and I care about to friendship. And I don't want to hurt her. Have you spoken to Nicole? I have you spoken to Nicole? I'm just going to make these lips for no reason while I wait for you. If you, if you, I'm just going to blow an invisible bottle to make a little woo sound. And if you need clarification, Nicole is the slut

who sued her friend. That's her business. Oh, I have talked to her. And she had such a high opinion of you before the dinner. Oh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. What after the dinner? What about after the dinner?

Well, I can't speak for her, blah, blah, I don't think it's something a lunch can't fix Well, that's what I always say a lunch fix is everything but except for a marriage apparently David David never responded to my lunch invitation. He only wants to go to cash repubs with sugary sauces Hello, I'm happy. I'm very happy Well, I have a lot of lunches to schedule for one of lunches Now I feel just as badly for her that all this information came out, but once again, wuh-wuh-wuh.

What were you thinking, Nicole? What were you thinking? Well, you know, maybe, Nuella. Maybe you should join lunch with me in Nuella. I think, I mean, with, Nicole, I think that'd be like, I was long to do that. Okay, let's take a down a notch. I have to put my head on now,

because there's sun outside, and we have to protect my hair follicles. Now, I would never wish for this to happen to anybody. What happens to Noella, right? I mean, it's not good what's coming up in the episode. I will say that it made it an easier fall for me when I saw her gigantic purse that says, the rich ante of set up. You know what? You walk around with the purse like that and you

deserve it. There I said it. I- Yes, I did feel bad this episode because I was like damn what she's going through sucks and I did spend a good amount of the past two episodes on a recap being like okay wait for her left to fall apart which then I'm in retrospect I'm'm like, I am terrible. But yeah, moments like that are like, well, anyway. So now we can, so now we go to the ever charismatic and fascinating and all around good person.

Dr. Jen, who we just can't get enough of. Dr. Jen, wow, she's already getting ripped to shreds all over the internet. Oh, yes. So let's see, Chen's like pepper, get off the couch. And Fincy, no skateboarding in the house. Huh, daddy's a waste of the mice will play. Did you do zinc? Did you do zinc today, kid?

And he's like, yeah, we did the zinc and we played in the water all day. She's like, oh my god, why are you a tiny little version of Whitney from Real Housewives of Salt Lake City? He came like flying into a house in those rollerblades. It was like the starlight express going on in there for crying out loud. I was like, whoa, coming in hot. So they go in FaceTime Ryan, who's in Hawaii, shirtless of course, and just talk to him like, are you on vacation or are you working?

Like real, real interesting, a deeply interesting scene, you know? So we find out, yeah, and he's just totally annoying. He's like, yeah, whatever. Okay, great, great. So I call my mom's coming, great, great. It's gonna be great. I'm not gonna overthink that or anything. Great, great. It's gonna be fine. Just gonna be fine.

Okay. Well, I basically married my mother. If you guys are putting that together yet, because my mother basically can't stand me there. So, that should be a fun week. So then, we go over to Gina and Travis. We're puttering around their kitchen and Gina is She's saying she doesn't have to catch the kids this weekend, so she's gonna take Noelle at a cry-o house later You know, I love I love cry-o house. I love it's a house dedicated to crying. I'm like, no, it's not that at all, right? You know, oh my god. Why didn't anyone tell me? It's a different in Long Island. We actually have houses that you go to to cry. Okay, it's very different there.

So she's, you know, I'm very fascinated by Newella. Like I'm not sure what she's ever, like I'm not sure what she's ever going to do, like but like also, like I think I may, like I think that she like maybe hitting on me a little bit and like she kept talking about my eyes and I'm very fascinated by her. So we'll see how it goes. And then we see a clip of it. Now, while I was like, oh, look at us. We're having a pink on pink moment.

You're wearing pink and I'm wearing pink. Wow. And look at your eyes. Wow, I just love your eyes. So Travis is like, well, do you want? It sounds like you want no valid a hit on you. You're just like, I'm like, well, do you want, it sounds like you want Novela to hit on you. She's like, I'm like, go on. So then, although she did, she's got a jet.

So, look at my off. She's like, I love that we can joke about this stuff. You know, I really feel like we are still. He goes, in love. I'm just like, yeah, you know, like, you're gonna sneakily propose to me if something. Yeah. And he goes, no, no, no, I think it's appropriate to be content.

Which is probably what everyone wants to hear. So you're gonna pop the question? No, I think I'm just gonna sit in complacency for a moment. Yeah, totally romantic. And she's like, look, I just don't, she's telling us. I don't want to be a girlfriend at the stage of my life, you know, like I'm a little embarrassed to say this is my boyfriend when I'm a grown woman with three children, I can entertain it, but you know, he's just not there yet. So she doesn't say that to him, of course, to him, she says, it feels really good

to just be happy. Yeah, she goes, and she says, you know, and she says that she really enjoys being happy. She really likes being happy until someone pisses me off like Shannon, like she's been bothering me lately, like bothers me lately that like Heather told us that Shannon told her that she shouldn't trust Emily and I like that is so wrong. I think that Shannon just wants to separate Heather away from us, you know, so she can control the whole situation. Yeah. And she's like, um, she already fucked up really bad. Okay.

First of all, no one can trust you. You immediately took what she told you and ran and ruined a party with it. Okay. And I'm going to stand by that. That's just fucking ridiculous. And now you're trying to control everything by telling Heather first and making Shannon into a bad person. So no, Shannon is gonna be the villain for the whole season and Heather's gonna like you. If anyone here is manipulating, it's you, ma'am. Shannon tried it.

I'm not gonna say that Shannon didn't try it. Shannon tried it as she was terrible at it, like usual. But you were the person who did it. My dad. It's also not unrealistic, and I honestly don't think it's like the shadiest thing in the world. It is shadi, but not the worst crime in the world, to be drinking with your friends, and then be like, yeah, this girl Nicole's gonna be there, which is weird because I think that Nicole sued Terry,

but now they're friends, that's strange to me. Like, that's not like a crazy pot stirring moment. That's like, hey, isn't this weird moment that you might have with your friends? I don't think it's like the biggest crime in the world that Shannon said that. But I do think Shannon being like, now you must swear to secrecy and you absolutely not bring this up on camera was probably more of the manipulation, because she knew they were going to bring it up. And this way she covers her tracks. up on camera was probably more of the manipulation because she knew they were gonna bring it up

and this way she covers her tracks. Yeah, but I don't think she thought they would say, oh, we didn't hear from Shannon though. Of course they're gonna say, we heard it and Shannon told us, you know? So I think that Shannon really was being like, don't bring it up, you know, like I don't know how to do it yet,

but don't bring it up. So, in other words, I think not the biggest problem that she said this. Well, no, I way, I think Shanna's just the idiot. She said this. You will know, I mean, if you're not going to gossip with your friends at lunch, what the fuck else are you going to talk about? Like, if I don't have other people to talk about, I'm just going to be silent, okay? I'm shallow person and I have nothing else to talk about.

And they know that Shanna is a gossip when she drinks, and there's probably, you know that Emily was like, let's get her drunk and see what she has to say. I think Shanna's mistake was not hearing this information and telling Heather, hey, listen, that is the girl I was thinking of and I heard that she sued you. How are you friends? Like Shannon made it into this huge deal. She probably wanted to have her own scene of that

and the girls beat her to it. So anyway, so back to Travis and Gina. She's like, you know what? Like I do like, you know, she's been there for me in the past. And then we see that, a clip of Shannon being like, well, have you called my lawyer? Yeah, let me help you. And she's like, even at Heather's, like Shannon kept trying

to put it on me. No, she didn't. She walked up and said, what are you guys? She walked up while you were tattletailing on her. She didn't try and put it on you. Did she? Did I forget that part? Maybe she said it.

I mean, I don't think so. Well, chat low, meaning that Shannon had said, like, well, I said it in confidence, and then they broke my trust. She'd Shannon tried to make the narrative about how they are like sneaky. Well, they are. But they are. But like, it was Gina.

And Gina did it because she decided to like place her own insecurities about this crazy barbecue that she went to onto this situation. And I just don't think that's appropriate, especially when there's like lots of like nice food and you don't want to ruin the situation. Like you do that after the food, you do it after the food, okay? And she's doing this thing where she's like so mad at Shannon now like she's really really upset with Shannon Because she knows she did something wrong I think so she's just gonna be like I'm mad at you for me telling Heather So I'm just oh my god. Yeah, to deflect so Gina's like you know She's in tacky attacking my integrity, all right? And Shannon is trying so hard not to look like the bad person that she doesn't give a shit

who she has to destroy in the process of making herself look at who did she destroy? You were so ridiculous. I know. But also like you can't accuse Shannon of trying so hard to save face, right? And be like, look like a good person. When you were the one who was so dead set on telling Heather this because she didn't want Heather to feel like an idiot that people were talking about her.

But what was the ultimate goal of that? Was for Gina to prove that she's a good person who tells she's not gonna be like those people at the barbecue, she's gonna be an honest and upfront person. So ultimately what she was doing was also to serve her own image. Right. So then Heather goes into Terry's office and she's got like a fendee bag as big as the

fucking television set from the 80s. It's ridiculous. It was like the top line of like a like a reading chart like that big old E that's up there. Whatever. It's like big letters. Yeah. And she does, and she does like when she walks

through the halls of Terry's office, she does this fake ass like claw wave, you know where she like sees someone in an office and she doesn't like wave her hand like left and right. She just puts her hand up and then does like the, the palm claw. That was the one hand is right. You know, she's never done that before.

Yeah. She's like, well, I'm just taking a minute in between schlepping. Oh my God, look at that picture. That picture was from 10 years ago, which is probably the last time I was in your office and actually made you hang that thing. So there it is.

Come in here all the time. She's like, I don't know how I feel about sitting in front of a 10-year-old version of myself. And he's like, well, he's like, how about me? He's like, well, I's like, how about me? He's like, well, I actually have less wrinkles, but I have more Botox. Hey, should we do a, let's try it from the top

and let's do a Nicole Wees laugh, okay? Okay, here we go. I have less wrinkles, but I have more Botox. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Well, and you know what? Here's what I told her in the clip. I said you had nothing to do with that I considered you as much of a victim as we were you were not a fucking victim Talking about you But also it's like she's clearly a lion's building. She's like don't worry Nicole You you lovely dumb woman you are as much of a victim of the own law of the lawsuit that you created as we were. At the recipient of the lawsuit, who actually would face real legal repercussions and you would not. Oh, and by the way, if anyone wants to hear who the real victim is, go on to Yelp and search

Dr. Terry Dubrow and read some of those reviews. Okay. Those are the real victims here. Yeah. So, um, celebrity beef, you never know if you're just going to end up on TMZ or trending on Twitter or in court. I'm Matt Bellasai. And I'm Sydney Battle, and we're the host of Wonder e's new podcast, Dis and Tell. Each episode explores a different iconic celebrity feud, from the build-up, why it happened, and the repercussions. What does our obsession with these feud say about us?

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You can listen ad-free on the Amazon music or wonder ya. I'm not going to read any of them because you know that they'll see you Yeah, I was like they'll see somebody so I'm not gonna I don't want to be a guy. I don't want to be a Nicole Beast lawsuit. It'll be a It'll be a mall house like they're gonna be like we're adding underage Suing Ronin Ben right now Yeah, allegedly what they are they are on yelp. I mean you can't get sued for saying that they're on yelp a public app It's a public app so

How there's like I don't know what Shannon's goal was with all of this but really it wasn't cool It wasn't cool because yeah, what was her goal anyway? I don't know but she texted me. He's like what this should be good and then we begin The great tech exchange. Great. Like, I was laughing out loud during this, especially because what they would do is they would show a text bubble

and it looks like that's all the text would be. And then they kept on expanding the text bubble to show there was more and more. So it starts with a shan going, hello Heather, I hope all is well. I feel patty about the way things ended between us the other night. I would like to continue the conversation if you're open to it. Please let me know if you're free

this week. Heart emoji. Heather loves judging emojis. You remember when she goes to that girl called that girl texted me to apologize for defiling my cake and then she gave me this emoji. Whooo! I mean, what is that? Whooo! I forgot. You're right, oh my God, I forgot about that. So Terri is like, I mean, what's to even continue. She is, I wrote back, I wrote back, I said, and Shannon, I'm surprised. I'm just hearing from you now, but I don't care to adjudicate your behavior

over the past few weeks, via text, nor do I have the time in my schedule to listen to more of your rhetoric. Well, you know, I think that was like not so bad. The point is, isn't so much what you said since there's nothing to hide. It's that you would pass on information that could be twisted and could have hurt my husband, his career, and thereby our family. Well, one has to imagine that's the end of the story. Oh, and please spare me with your quote unquote intentions.

It's your actions that matter, and they are indefensible and inexcusable. Right, and well since comedy is in season, I have to say that you have reached out to Nicole to apologize for humiliating and spreading the private, that's an all cap, Terry, just in case you didn't get a private information from 20 years ago that is none of your business Heather. So, and then she goes, and then she wrote me back and she said, I'm sorry, you feel that way. My apology is genuine. What you know, Shannon was had like that look on her face like, well, I don't understand why they kept it expired milk in the fridge, but they did. And I guess I'll just be the one to throw it out.

That was the tone that she wrote that. Yeah, you know, Shannon stopped reading at like I won't accept it. Whatever, you know, what's the first line? Shannon, I'm surprised I'm hearing from you now, but I don't care to adjudicate your behavior. You know she read that and was like, oh, well, I am being victimized. So if that is as much as I will read and I will text back, well, I'm sorry. You feel that way. My apology is genuine. Ouch, my kitchen isn't a hallway. So I hope you're happy. I hope you're happy now, Missy. And how they're goes um, last time I checked there was no apology in that text. I'm like no, but she said a million times Don't you remember when she followed you around like a like a sad little puppy at your house going?

I am so sorry. I am so so sorry. Heather, if there's anything I can do, I just, I never got to sit on your toto toilet and I just, I just, I wanna come back Heather, I wanna see my former life, Heather. I know, she apologized nine million times. So she's like, so without her taking accountability, I really don't know how we can move forward.

And so she tells us, Shannon, never, I mean, who writes a adjudicate in her text? Just, I'll tell you who writes a adjudicate into a text, an evil professor who will not give an extension on their work in your dream. And then signs off from the class going, okay, class is dismissed, Heather. Like, she knows it's from you, Heather. I I know the fact that she signs off with her own name

And she's message. She's wearing her Disney villain leather dress with big poofy leather sleeves. Oh, I can't so then we I can't but I love it Oh, I do too like all my anger today like Gina and Heather. This is like my favorite thing This is why I watch these shows, you know, it feels so good pulsing through my veins. It really does. So, um, she's like, you know, Shannon never liked me from the get go. For whatever reason, whatever. I guess I just rubbed her the rich way, the wrong way, sorry. Sorry. The wrong way. I rubbed her the wrong way. And then we see the clip of Tamera going, um, that's Shannon's chair. She's, no, it was my chair and I took it back. Oh hi Shannon, I took back my chair. Heh heh heh. What the chair is.

So important for you to get here. So then, um, yeah, Heather said that Shannon was never wrong and never the problem. But I begged to differ. Did you like that? That's what I used to be in my audition for the hot and Cleveland reboot. I said, I live in Cleveland now and you don't. And if you think you do, I beg to differ. So look at that.

He's like, so wait, you're going to keep the door closed to her and she gives like her evil face. So you're back five minutes and you're already trying to ice people off the show. I mean Heather. I just hope that Heather really gets it this season. I hope that something really just comes back to bite her in the ass this season because she is so high on herself. Yeah, but like, I mean, she's doing good work. She is. She is. I mean, the show is like alive for the first time in seven years. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap and commercial. So, um, so now we're at Cryo House, um, and it's Gina Nuella, and, and there's this woman there who's very excited. Her name is

Dan Yell, and she's like, Hi, welcome to Cryo House. I did not just cry in the back room for four hours. So, um, she's definitely like the reception lady from the Mad Cat Hotel on Vanderpump rules. I did not just cry in the back room for four hours. So Like the reception lady from the mad cat hotel on Vanderpump rules. I can't Sarah Saral. Welcome It's a crowd chamber. Hope you like the cold girls, but your person's damn like there Some the weller not to pry into your business, but to pry into your business, I saw that article. And we see a headline that says, no, a burglar or burgeoner, whatever, admits that she is shocked and discussed over husband James burgeoner's 5.8 million dollar tax debt. Says, my marriage has been a fight every day since. You don't have to talk about it if you don't want to. She goes, Oh, no, I want to talk about it. Are you kidding?

I mean, having an article with my name in the headline was amazing. I was great. Like, literally, I cannot wait to talk about it. Let's talk about it. What do you want to know? Yeah, I love, I love Gina thinking that Noah is not going to talk about it. When she clearly gave an interview before she even was on the house. So I was about her marriage.

And then she's shocked later on that she gets divorced papers, of course. So Nuella is like, I'm just confused why James can't just doesn't pay the debt. We have this asset together. It's a house that of course, no one else lives in, no one at all

must live in this house that we have. And you know, selling it would cover all the debts and he's just fighting me on it. I mean, he's acting almost as if like there's some other family that lives there. It's crazy. The hardest thing is that he's just, it's just like he's my best friend, he's my best fucking friend. So it feels like it could be trail. No, like I'm like, you know, I'm not trying to fight you.

I'm trying to help like let's come up with a plan together and that we're not in a good place about it. And she's got a wrist tattoo that says Serendipity, which I love spotting that shit during a breakdown. That's yeah, it really that is very funny. It is also funny that she's like, he's my best friend, my best friend. I'm like, well, you I listen, I'm not gonna stick up for sweet James at all. And I'm especially on this episode, okay? The guy is obviously like a total monster in a dick

and he's up to no good. But also like, you're talking about how this person's your best friend, but you're gonna kind of air your dirty laundry into a, like, to a tabloid. I don't know, for me, I'm like, this is weird. Yeah, I'm disgusted with him. I'm disgusted with him and our marriage has been a fight every day since. So she's like, well, you know, it's hard when you go through Meija. Meija.

Gina's doing that thing where she's really, really giving that accent her all to the point where it sounds fake. I'm like, Meija. Meija? It's not even how I would pronounce that with a terrible fake accent. Come on, Gina. Meager is not even how I would pronounce that with a terrible fake accent come on My heart really goes out to you And you know I've been there and the one thing I know is that you will be okay Yeah, so okay So Gina's like you oh my god, so I thought this would be fun, but you really mean it you need a bed

She's like oh my god, you have drinks here She's turned into a cartoon dog She's such a cartoon this lady was cracking Now we're gonna woof, woof, woof, we'll finish with the cryo, Jayboo. Wow. So, so Gina does the cryo and then Noella does it and she's like, whoa, that's right in the who-ah, right in there, whoa!

And, and Gina's like, you know what, you need to have, you need to have some fun, drink a lot of alcohol on Noella. Now, Gina, remember how that worked out for you when you were going through your marital issues maybe like suggest like I don't know like Watching some movies

I don't know so no I was like oh actually fell asleep on our drum gym last night She's like a dungeon. Yeah a dungeon for sex. We have a dungeon. It's cute Yeah, Dungeon for sacks. We have a dungeon. It's cute. There's a king bad satin sheets. And, James is like, um, I was picturing like boys and weapons. Well, there are whips. We love sacks. Through lots of fucking dungeon. Gina looks horrified for two different reasons. One is she's having trauma flashbacks to Bronwyn and two, she's like, have I missed the pillows at home goods that say dungeon on them? Is this a whole new category?

And the wacky lady who works there is like, bo I have to sanitize my cryo chamber now? So now we see Shannon being driven to dinner. And I feel like this is a first. It's just Shannon talking to what I imagine is like a set PA driving her. She's like, oh, so young lady, have you ever been to country club? And she's like, no, I mean, I've dropped off there. I mean, is it like a country? Is it like country club? No, no, no. It actually looks like an old school country club and she's like um no I mean I've I've dropped off there I mean is it like a country is it like country club? No no no it actually looks like an old school country club it's it's

where the young folk go it's where it's where those sluts go that go and steal married man that's where they go I'm just a 57 year old lady yeah that people like me so this is great let's yell at the old woman in a preschool bar. Oh feels great. And then her phone rings and her ringer is David. David. David. David. David. David. David. David. David. David. David. David. David. David. David. David. Well, hello, Gina. Oh, yeah. Hi. Listen, I was just hoping to give you a call to reach out because I'm real upset about how everything happened

It here this and I think it would be good for us to sit down and figure anything out so I'll see Is do we have a bad bad connection? No, I'm just me Okay, very well all right right, we'll arrange that. So Shannon hangs up and then there's like this long pause. It's just like silence and I forgot my belt. So it's grilling day over at Emily and set in. So he's grilling and the kids are drawing stuff all over the concrete with chalk. And one of them's like mom

Do you know what this is? It's a planet. I know how many planets are there? It depends on how many people that are in your family, mom Then when we die we all get our own Damn this Mormon is something is working vast So Emily goes up the shane who's grilling goes So you got a packet from the bar and you go, I did. Oh, oh, because you, I'm sorry, you said you were going to get a packet from the bar.

Okay, so then what happens once you get it, I'm gonna open the packet and then, I'm gonna pull something out of the packet. I guess we're really doing this and then, and then I'm gonna put it on the table. Just tell me how long I have to do this before someone yells out, Gingert's Starcasm. Don't know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,. So there's like two strands sticking up. Shane, just cut your hair. Just do us all a favor.

Yes, I'll work some more. Yeah, yeah. It's time to join the Legion of the buzz cuts. The Legion buzz cuts, man. It's time to just to just give in. Okay. So she's talking about how he's going to graduate. And he, you know, no one even got to come to his graduation. Okay. So she's talking about how he's going to graduate and he, you know, no one even got to come to his graduation before. So he should invite his mom. He's still mad and stuff. And he's like, Hey, buddy, you want a little chicken? Tastes like dinosaur. So I just don't know. I'm like mad that he didn't tell his mom he was graduating. Like his mom missed

his mom clearly wants to go to his graduation of wherever he graduated from. He didn't tell his mom he was graduating like his mom missed his mom clearly wants to go to his Graduation of wherever he graduated from he didn't tell her so she missed it and then she was mad like I think that is such a dick move So yeah, I mean, I don't really care I could just cuz I could imagine Shane is just like that like graduating I'm surprised he even went I'm surprised he even went Yes, so now just a mallet to me honey. Did you get me mail today? I did

Did you open it I did? Did you pull anything out? I did was it a ploma it was god damn it shame Why do you make me work so hard for it? So Emily tells us very Uninteresting things about how her daughter's gonna be baptized and how She didn't have religion growing up, but now she's interested in it. It's like truly like the least interesting Development so the whole thing. Yeah, it's just kind of rubbing me the wrong way because she's saying things like, you know, like the older I get, the more I realize how faith and religion can help you. And I want to have more of it up. Okay, so that's okay.

But I don't see any of my notes here, but at one point, she said something like, you know, I just, I see that religion can give them hope and I can't give them that. She says something along those lines where I was like, damn. Like, I know it's not giving them hope. She ends here, okay. She ends here, it's not giving them hope. Also, isn't it funny seeing the difference between Salt Lake City and this show?

Because this is Mormonism, like they're bringing their kids into Mormonism and stuff, but on Salt Lake City, it's like, I don't think that they would even be allowed to talk to their mom if she wasn't Mormon, you know? Yeah, they're not being allowed, but they make it sound like it's much more colty over there. Yeah, I mean, Shane's whole Mormonism storyline has always been a little odd because he wasn't raised Mormon, but I think he converted because his friend was Mormon or something.

I don't know. I have to say, like, it's never been fascinating. I don't know why. Emily got saddled with the storyline this season, but here we are. Yeah. So anyway, they talked to the kids about being baptized and stuff, and that's it. Okay, so let's go to the country club. I don't even know why we're still here. Honestly Most most conversations like that. I'm like, I know I was like Ronnie I'm giving you many different ways to get exit the scene like another thing It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap and commercial So now we're at the country Club, which is just a bar.

That's the Country Club themed. Also known as a Country Club. I mean, that's basically what Country Clubs are. So Nicole arrives and she's like, oh my God, no, I love your back. Oh my God, I love it so, it's a bad that I said that. I mean, sue me, right? Don't do it literally.

It's like, does a company smaller? It's a jewelry does it cut any smaller? It's a adorable ride. Oh. And Nicole is wearing a denim jumper, A la Eileen from Real House was a Beverly Hills, which I thought it was funny. She's trying, Nicole. So they talk about how Shannon's coming

and they was like, how do you feel about that? It's like, I mean, I guess I'm just gonna wait to see what she has to say, because like, I really don't know what to think. How's James? Oh, girl, don't get me started. Don't even get me started. I'll just sit here and you can, you know, you can ask another question so I can get started. Oh, cool. Well, my first thing is you and the position you were put in, and that's really scary. And you know, I'm going through divorce as you know, she's, oh girl, girl, divorce isn't even on the table, okay.

And admittedly the table isn't a house in Puerto Rico, but this just needs to go away. Like IRS, like you don't mess with the IRS. They got Kapo. And Nicole just squints at her and kind of licks her lips a lot. The camera just stays on her. And then it goes, which cracked me up. So then. Nicole is often just kind of like squinting and licking your lips. Yeah. I just thought it was funny. They're like, we don't really know what Nicole's thinking. So just give her like a solid 10 seconds of licking her lips. And at that, let's

just see if Nicole can respond to an alcapone reference or is that going to go just a little bit too far above her head. So Shannon shows up. She's like, how, girls, I'm really sorry, I'm late. I mean, oh god, I was very, very difficult for me to show up here at this youngster, Dan of Iniquity. Ha ha ha. Oh, okay. Wow. Hello, everyone. Is everything good, Simon? No, not really, but I guess that's not important to have a bunch of preschoolers. So, let's all take our bubbles out of our mouth and have a conversation.

Shall we get the ball from the air here? Oh, well, I mean, I, I, I mean, no, things are not good, I guess I see that you ladies didn't forget your belts, but some of us did! So yes, I am in a little bit of a mood. Nicole's giving like a mad face, and Shannon says, well, I just want to hop in here and talk about what happened the other night. I am so sorry about what happened, but I just want to briefly explain where my frame of mind was, because I asked if you briefly explain where my frame of mind was,

because I asked if you were Nicole Wease and Heather kept saying no. And then I looked at your social media and I was like, well that's not Heather Wease, because I'm either Wease, I'm new. Oh, I mean, just use a scraper and take her off the bathroom floor of some stadium playing view wheelie-wiss in the news. I mean, she was a real bimbo. Crouper, idiot. What a moron, what a whore. And then I saw you and realized,

you are the Nicole wee! It's so... I mean, Nicole wee's and I knew. It looked like she had two blim stuff to her shirt. And when go up to a jukebox and play Joe and Jenna repeat it, some dingy dive bar. Until Kid Rock and Locket and sweeper offer what would then be called feet but I would rather call Hoves, am I right?

How I just- How but it was you. You know, I just thought, well it doesn't make sense that Heather and Nicole would be friends if Nicole sued Heather. You understand, right? And she's like, well, I don't think it's ever at the time or place to really discuss somebody's medical history. I mean, this wasn't even an issue then and it was like over before it started. So... Oh, oh, okay. So, uh, well two notes, um, it wasn't your medical history. It was your legal history, which was out there and you told me about.

Second of all, um, I'm glad that it was over before it began, but you were not the one being sued, but who am I? Just some middle-age woman without a belt and a youngster of palace. You know, we should call it a non-suit, because it was not a law of food, it was a non-suit. We should call it that. So glad I agreed to have you come join us noelle so glad so glad So Nicole's like well if I'm not mad. He's not mad like why would anyone care and noelle says but then

Emily came after you she's yeah, I was like attacked Well, I stupidly Well, I stupidly, two girls, I trusted two girls who I thought I could trust, but like who made a promise that if this were the case, it would never be uttered because it wouldn't be appropriate, just how it would not be appropriate to walk into a country club, quote, unquote, without a belt. And I take full blame for that. Not the belt. The belt should have been left out for me by my daughter's and they didn't leave it out.

But I shouldn't have trust, I shouldn't have trust in, and I was too trusting, I was too trusting and too good of a friend and I apologize. If I'm guilty of anything, it's being a too wonderful a person. Well, I understand where you're coming from and I can see Shannon when I look at you, like deep in your eyes that you're sincere. Oh, well,

good, because I was just thinking, God, I wish I could bend one of these forks to keep these pants out. Okay, I'll go with your story. I'll go with your way. Oh, so Nicole's like, I will tell you right now, I forgive you, even though I'm probably going to call you fat later if I could call Emily last week. So enjoy it Well, you've got a bitch Well, I'll tell you one thing. I did reach out to Heather and she has no interest in getting together with me none What's so ever wow? This was so good. She just smiles like Shannon doesn't smile

She just like stares at Nicole and her eyes kind of move back and forth like they do and then a little pop-up comes up besides Shannon's head of how they're reading that text being like and the audacity of your infurbiage incoming for me. And it just looks like Shannon's kind of looking over at Heather like wow. She had the nerve to use all those words against me. So she says WAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAPWAP And David, and David! There was that beach. There was the Shigurikasropub. There was that dragon bracelet you gave me. Have you owned any of that? I don't think, and Tamra! How about you, Tamra? You got a lot to say on social media these days.

Have you owned that? Have you owned that? You have a Twitter handle? I don't think so. Well, I'm hoping, obviously, of such an amazing friendship of Heather. And I have a good one, too, even though I just kind of matter. She's, wow, you know, reconnecting with her. It was like nothing had changed in our friendship.

It's like, yeah, you hated each other before, too. Yeah, what is this narrative she's trying to spend that they became incredibly close at one point? That literally never happened. An Heather is, too. She's kind of like, wow, I can't believe that Shannon, you know, I tried with Shannon I'm like, no you didn't you hated Shannon's ass from the second you walked back on here, okay lady? Yeah So now we go back over to Dr. Jen the the new bravo sensation sweeping the internet and Ryan's back and only as Ryan back Dr. Jen's mom Maggie is there and she's back. And not only is Ryan back, Dr. Jen's mom, Maggie is there and she's British, which is important because she makes the scene interesting. And she was like, well, my flight was safe and empty. It was a beautiful flight. And so it turns out Nana and C.C.

C.C. is the daughter. They created a handshake in Wyoming and Mag is like, no, no, no. I couldn't possibly show off this handshake that I never had with my very own daughter. I know one seems to have with my daughter because she's terrible, but I do have with you, little girl. So they do. It's like a little handshake dance thing. And she's like, wow, we didn't have a handshake. And I don't have a handshake with Cece. She probably has it with everyone but me. a handshake and I don't have a handshake with Cece. She probably has it with everyone but me. Yeah, she probably does. And so Maggie was born and raised in England. It was very strict,

but she has become relaxed now that she was a grandmother. And so then there's this thing where like Jen pours some wine for herself and for her mom. And she pours the wine for her mom and like a little thimble. And you think it's like a joke at first, but then like the mom like brings that like thimble of course wine out to the backyard. And they're like toasting with it. And I'm like, is someone gonna say like that? Is we're gonna reference the fact that this is like

a very small glass of wine. And that like she should have a proper size one. Yeah, she's like, well, be careful when we tear see that knock it out of my hand. And I know that you say I get crazy when I drink and she's like, no, you get dizzy and I do not like dizzy women. So I guess the mom like doesn't hold her drink well so she only gets a thimble. Darling, darling, please, please be sure not to knock the glass out of my hand. I wouldn't want to be wet next time I do one of the secret handshakes I have with your daughter,

your children or your husband. So, Jen's talking about how her dad passed away and she's recently been thinking about him and crying and she's like, I mean, I just think would dad even be proud of me? It's like, of course he would. He was always on your team. I mean, it was a team that was always losing.

I felt really bad for your father, actually. I mean, every day putting a foam finger on and cheer, cheer, cheering just for lose, lose, lose. You understand, don't you, darling? You know, he was also a fan of the Knicks. So, you know, he liked to set himself up for disappointment. So, they do like a toast to the dad,

because the dad died basically, I don't know if it was a hit and run or anything, but basically a motorcycle. He was on a bike and a motorcycle's hidden as very sad. And clearly Jen is still dealing with it years later and she talks about how the dad was the glue that kept the family together and then once he died, the family kind of crumbled and, you know, sent Maggie into depression for years and how Jen essentially was just about to start med school and she had to put herself through med school and figure out how to be an adult without her dad. Yeah, she was like, oh my god, I just don't know why my mom doesn't like me. Mom, are we going to do some Botox while you're here? I mean, your anger is showing all over your forehead.

It's like, well, just answer that question. Yeah. So now Shannon's sitting at home and she's like, well, I'm just sitting here hoping that someone who's experiencing pain might face time. Oh, it's Nuella. Nuella, hi, how are you? Nuella, how's everything going? It's like not great. What's happening? Do I need to get my imaginary bottle out to blow into? Oh, oh, oh. No, somebody came to serve papers. Divorce papers.

Important Rico. So it was all in Spanish. Thankfully I have somebody to translate. Guess what? Where is he? I don't know. Did he take his clothes? I don't know.

It was closer here. It's closer here. It's closer here. It's life is here. You set off the credit cards. Oh my gosh. Do you want me to go down to the beach to see if he's walking around with a slat somewhere? Um, so Nicole's like, I need to find an attorney and talk to the attorney because like, he just made an error he needs to correct.

I didn't think that would mean an end to our marriage. And now I'm a single mom. I mean, I just want him back. So she's crying. And Shannon's like, don't you think there's a way that you can just reach out and say, don't do this to me. I'm killing your blood, settle the beach, I'll bury you alive. I have a question.

Was Sweet James suddenly very interested in Spartan races? Because that is usually a sign. And so basically, she just had like, you know, three terrible months, not terrible months, but like she had like big wallops in a row. Like she learned her son was diagnosed with autism. Her mom was put in the hospital for something and now this, so it's three big things in a row.

And she's just like going through it. And Shannon's crying too. She's like, I can't tell you how horrible I feel for you. But I will try to outcry you at this moment if you don't mind. So then sad music plays and we come you know, come out from the house and we're seeing the house like we're about to go to commercial and then we go. Wait, he let some Puerto Rico. like we're about to go to commercial and then we go. Wait, he let's some Puerto Rico? What?

What? It is odd serving papers from Puerto Rico for divorce. I mean, there must be some sort of like, I mean, well, actually, now that I'm thinking about it, you probably already thought about this, because you like to do the, you're like faster with conspiracy theories than I am. But like, there must be some thing with divorce laws in Puerto Rico

that probably favor the guy, which is why he had to get a house there to establish residents so that way he could file for divorce from there. I'm assuming it's something like that. I think it's taxes. I think that's, well, I think that that's his fight. I think it's all taxes because many residents are not required to pay federal income taxes in Puerto Rico. I just read that on the internet.

I know that that's a big deal with crypto, you know, like people are always like, I'm moving to Puerto Rico, brah. So that's what got me thinking. So I just, Google, do you have to pay income tax in Puerto Rico? And it says many residents are not required to pay federal income tax. So I'm wondering if that's why they have a house there. And he's saying he lives in Puerto Rico so he can get out of paying federal taxes.

And they're saying, oh, no. That's why it's divorced from there. Right. That's obviously just a tax haven. And you do OS $5 million or $6 million or whatever. And here I thought he just simply had another family down there. I mean, it could be all the above, which is what's the best. Does he? I purposely avoided all the gossip because I saw the headlines, but I was like, I don't

see any of this in a cool way, is until, except for being Bronwyn's friends. I was like, I don't care about this gossip. And also, I wanted to see it unfold on the show. So I don't know what his real deal is. If it's just taxes or new idea, I don't know. I have no idea. I'm just like based on this information. I was like, well, my initial thought was the fact

that he cares so much about this house and does not want to sell it. I was like, well, he's probably got someone living in there. But now the tax thing makes more sense. But as possible, it's, he might have someone and that's tax issues. But, you know, if you're someone not paying their taxes and you have a house in Puerto Rico, that's tax issues. But maybe if you're someone not being their taxes and you have a house in Puerto Rico, that's the reason.

So I think that she doesn't understand why he has the house. So she's like, well, let's just sell the house. I'm gonna talk to a realtor and try to sell the house. And he freaks out, you know? Like, yeah. I think she doesn't really get it. And then she's like going on talking about it on

in tabloids, raising the profile of it all more stories like cutting this one off by so then we get we can it's the beginning of the episode thing where we're seeing what all the ladies are doing in the morning so Heather's like hello this is Heather do bros world every everybody have a guest or a beverage show on my guess I beverages and we see she's doing her podcast. And of course, Lance Bass. I mean, is there a housewife who's asshole? He's not up.

Is there a boy? It's Lance Bass and Jamie Lynn Seagler. I also want to give a shout out to the editors who really had fun with this cornhole footage that they put at the top of this montage, where they showed like on the bottom half the screen it was like the seaside community and the top half a giant beanbag flying towards the camera but the way they were juxtaposed together it's like like at an enormous beanbag shaped UFO was about to land in Orange County and then it's revealed to

be just Cornhole but it was an exciting moment Orange County and then it's revealed to be just Cornhole. But it was an exciting moment. I was like, wow, it's like that flight of the Navigator all over again. So I'm going to Emily's, she's giving a kid cheese. Oh no, that's right, that's G-Nash. We go to Emily and she's giving her dog juice. And she's like, are you ignoring me? Oh, my kids are ignoring me, but my dog does it. God, I love Fisker. Fisker still a breakout star for me in Emily's household. So then Jen is doing a guy's jaw, you know, like injecting it. And he's like, oh my God, I love her.

I know it's not a grass. Oh my God, I like suck. I did a great job. She's like, oh, that's funny. So then we go to Gina's and she's arriving at lunch at Harley and she's wearing leather pants and a Heather Dubro top. She's wearing the same Disney villain Heather Dubro wore but like the TJ Max version not in leather. Yeah, so she comes in to meet with Shannon and Shannon's like, oh, well, that's a pretty top. It's sexy in the back too. It really is, which is Shannon's way of saying how dare you little bitch Drag me out to this restaurant with all their high calorie options, and I've got nothing on this made me eat it No, I said you're listening to you. Yeah, that's a beautiful top. I should get one of those backless tops too to make it easier for you to

stab you So they their silence and Shannon's just kind of looking to up and down and she was like, okay They their silence and Shan is just kind of looking grew up and down and she was like, okay, all right So it's been a heavy day all say that and the way there's like, oh my god I'm sorry. Oh, hi, wait a sorry. I was talking about you. Hi Okay, I'll have a dirty Monteney if you see a woman with button eyes come in here who's richer than everyone in here Bring me a skinny magarita. But yeah, so Gina's like, you know what? I went to cry out house with Nuella and I was like, I can't believe I'm finally in a place where I'm so happy that now I'm the friend that can help my friends.

It's almost like you've been displaced, Shannon. Does that make you feel uncomfortable? Where's your belt, by the way? Anyway, I'm feeling great. And then she facetimes me, and then we see a flashback of Newella, facetimes, I mean, Gina, and just like sobbing and saying, like, you know, James just filed for divorce.

So, Shannon's like, well, she facetimes me too. She did. I do have a place as the elder, it's me in the group. I do belong. I belong. I have things to offer.

And Gina's like, yeah, you know, I mean, I know we have to talk about all our stuff and I get that, but for me the day, it was just so much perspective. And I think we should get Noella to come. Let's get her to come. She goes, oh, well, sorry, I asked her if maybe she wanted to, I don't, you know, when we were on FaceTime, I'm'm gonna FaceTime her again, which is a common thing with that So blue No, well, well, well, well, this light isn't good. One power I look like crafter in your divorce. So that's great. Thanks a lot FaceTime No, it's your it's your dear friend Shannon Bedore who Recently FaceTime with perhaps even before Gina? I'm not sure. But anyway, we are having dinner and wanted to know, oh, you're actually already on the way. How did that happen?

Yeah, I was ready for it. I was ready. I'm in the Uber already. I really just need someone to talk to. So Gina's like, no, Wala, you know what? Like, let's just like, that put our perspective, our situation in perspective perspective like for me personally she and me but clearly on not about how everything happened okay I don't want to be fighting with

you she and she goes well I'm sorry but it still doesn't make sense to me why someone would be friends with somebody they were in a lawsuit with like well it doesn't make sense to me either but that's just what it is you know what I thought that you and Emily and I were having a moment at the deck and I wanted to believe the friendship and we had each other's backs and we've come so far. Just, well, I didn't want to hurt anybody, but you did, you hurt, you literally hurt.

We were at Javier's, you hurt me. And she goes, well, you know why I told you that day? What, you said to protect her? And I don't know what you're protecting her from. Maybe all the stairs in that giant house that she go tumbling down because it's so enormous and you can get dizzy from all the appliances in there. I don't know. I don't know what you're protecting her from. Well, I did it because the day that I found out that my husband was having an affair, he brought me to that woman's home. Okay, that's sad.

But you kind of brought Shannon to the home of the woman that you chose over her too. So fuck off in this equation. Well, I just want to point out that my husband had an affair too and I was to be leaded and everyone knew. So again, this is sort of my role in the show that you're kind of taking. And so Gina says, well, you know what?

We're here and I'm telling you something and you still want to be focused on how you're right. And I don't care if you're right. I don't care if you're fucking right. And then the waitress is like, oh, so sorry, ladies, I just want to drop off this salad here. Sorry. And it's like, wow, Gina.

Wow. Wow, Gina. Well, I've gone out of my way. I'm going to start moving my hands like I am, washing windows and then pausing. So, wow, wash, wash, wash, pause, Gina. I have gone, wash, wash, wash, wash, wash, pause out of my wash, wash, wash,

pause, wait, to be kind to you. And you know what, you shouldn't have to go out of your way to be kind to people, Shannon. I don't go out of my way to be kind to people Shannon I don't go out of my way to be kind to people I'm just kind to people so if that's so much of a burden for you then you need to examine that because that's a problem you know what there's then Shannon tells us there's a lot of cruelty at this table tonight I mean I've bent over backwards in my past helped you now so I I

have been there for her belt or no belt Okay, so Gina says and then you went and you told Heather You told Heather that me and Emily can't be trusted like why are you giving us information if you don't trust us Shannon She's like, but you can't be trusted I'm cracking up because of course I was yelling the same thing you can't get mad at someone saying you can't be trusted When you both just did that to her. Like you literally did it the day after. So Gina's, she's like, yeah, you know,

you gave us this information. So why do that if you don't trust us? Well, Shannon said that she didn't trust you before she went to Javier's and saw you guys. It wasn't after it was before. So she went to Javier's that made up with you and had a good might. You decided to be friends. And then all this other stuff happened.

Yeah, so Shannon's like, I wanted to believe you were my good friend that night. Well, you know what? You don't, but you don't because you're also talking shit about it's behind your back. You know what? I made a mistake and I'm an asshole for it. How about that? I use the A word. You know what? I made a mistake and I'm an asshole for it. How about that? I use the A word. You know what you want Shannon, but they were doing they were talking behind her back too. This to show is so infuriating, but I'm still laughing through the whole thing. So Shannon's like, well, I'm an asshole for making mistake. She goes, and here we are. I can only work with what I've got. And you know what, I really do care for you Shannon. Yeah, I really do, you know, especially after New York, I really felt like we bonded,

when we went to that Hail and Hardy, and you ordered a little Niswad salad. And I was like, I like Niswads, we bonded, remember that. You know, I just feel like you're pulling us back to where we were Shannon. And she's like, you know what? I didn't like this. And I'm sorry this didn't go how you wanted. She was really such a mess.

So she's like, I'm sorry that you're planning to manipulate everyone against Heather. It didn't work out, Shannon. She's like, well, we were in just such a positive happy place. And the last thing I wanted to do is fight and be in a negative place. So I'm just going to apologize because no one will speak to me on this show. Thanks to you, so sorry. And Gina's like, well, I forgive her,

but I'm gonna keep one eye open. You did not get betrayed here, Gina. Yeah, I know. Thank you, that's exactly right. So they basically are like, okay, everything's cool. Everything's cool. And it goes, you know what, when I get into these states, I blacked out, so I don't know the things I said,

but I do apologize if I said anything rude to you. And Shannon just left there going, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, when Noella comes in behind them, hey, and Shannon goes, hey girl, hey, hey girl, hey, hey girl, hey, hey girl, hey, I don't know, someone just tell me that she's using someone just shoot me the sheet music to that one because I don't get it. I heard it at the country club, so.

Oh, we do have some Brussels sprouts for you. That should, that should be good. And she's like, oh yeah, and like, oh my god, you're so skinny, yeah, it's the body that stress built. Ah. Oh, well, that didn't really work my way with stress, but that's fine, I'm so happy for you. I'm happy for the body that stress built for you. I'm just gonna have a little bit of those Brussels pants. I was so, I knew I was like,

well, I still haven't heard from him, but shutting off those credit cards, I mean, that's a big no-no. Like with our son. And she was like, that is fucked. She was, yeah, I mean, I don't have a bank account with savings. I don't have access to any other line of credit. I mean, my husband's in control of our family's finances. I mean, why is this happening?

I just have more questions and answers. Well, let me ask you this. Did sweet James roll down a hillside and the ring of snow storm That was also sunny and break his ankle and his brain and yeah, all your under a lot of stress to because that's what I want to know So Shannon's like well, we've both been blindsided, but yours. Whoa, that's a level up congratulations And she was like, yeah, I mean why not just fight with the IRS people file complaints against IRS bills? Will that's all I? And Nuella is just talking about how, um, uh, she's just talking about basically how James just like would refuse to sell this house.

Yeah, she's saying they got she tried to sell it. They got an amazing offer. And, um, she's like, I just don't get what the problem is. And she was like, well, I well, is he put a weekend? She's like, no, he's an extra Mormon from Utah. I mean, we've owned it for seven months. Who cares? Why is this such a big deal? Yeah, and then eventually they toast.

You know, so we were talking my life. To divorce, to divorce. Yeah, then. And that's it. Actually, that's where it ends. That's the end of it being. So funny. I mean, I feel that is a dick move to just cut off the credit cards of your wife

when like she has your kid and like, what is she gonna, she's the ones taking care of the kid right now. How is this kid gonna be taken care of? Yeah, if you're not a fucking man. Let her have her predicate her. So telling you, after she's sat there and said how sweet he is.

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