Watch What Crappens - RHOC: Femme Futile

Episode Date: November 21, 2018

"Real Housewives of Orange County" wraps up its 167th season with a baffling Femme Fatale theme party that manages to stymy all the women. We're here to recap all the drama -- or perhaps lack of?? And don't forget to chat with us on the TV Party App! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Give them ho. Miss Noel. And Lizzie Drucker, a fun mother f- Watch what crap bins. Watch what crap bins. Who cares what happens when there's so much that crap Lizzie Drucker, a fun motherfucker. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me is the wonderful Ronnie Karam who can also be found on Rose Prick's Bachelor Rose podcast. What's up Ronnie? Well, howdy-duty. We are bracing for Thanksgiving. We are in the final stretch before I guess America goes on vacation and We're excited and we got nothing really left to chill except our holiday gear. She go to watch crap and stuff Com for that. It's awesome has our stuff arrived here Ronnie cuz I'm so excited to wait sir

Has you want to stop by here tonight on your way someplace? Yeah, maybe I'll do that. I'm not really Sorry to set it to your house, but I don't know. I don't know what I was thinking. You don't even have to because I don't need it for Thanksgiving, but I'm sure. You sure? The day after is plaque Friday. I'm going to wear mine to everywhere in Austin, Texas. So if you're in Austin, it'll be a raw stress for less.

And you see a big bald guy walking around and out. Ho, ho, ho, hey. You sure? Probably me. Oh, but the problem is that, is my hoe, did I order ho, ho ho ho ho ho, okay, as a t-shirt or as a sweatshirt or as a sweat? I don't remember what I ordered.

Both got, you got a green sweatshirt and I got a red one. And then you're, we both got a Romona Catechers. Oh, so maybe, maybe I should wear the ho ho ho ho, okay, because I think I'm going to New York City on Friday. So I think, where that around and maybe Ramona herself will see it. Yeah, I'll just wander on the Upper East Side.

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I can talk that much. It's like non-stop yapping for an hour and people, you know, you read everybody's comments and it's basically hanging out with everybody. You guys are effing funny. So thank you for coming to hang out with me there. So you can do that. to TV party up. I'm at Ronnie, Karam and Ben is at Ben Maddle curt That's also our Instagram and Twitter's well what a kawinky. Yeah, what a huge huge kawinky. Yeah, I'm gonna try to go on I'm gonna try to go on today. I don't know if I'm gonna do it as part of like a viewing thing or a post like an after-show party I don't know I'm feeling a little not great today So part of me wants to nap and then come up with a game plan, but everyone just stay tuned. I know I

think I'm gonna log on to the app today, maybe even again, over on Thanksgiving. Who knows? But for right now, we have Real House. So I was at Orange County, the season finale, the seasons over, and we just have some reunion episodes left. What do you think about the finale, Ronnie? And what was the consensus on the TV party app? Well, people really like talking about like who should get fired. Yeah. My answer is always to say, Tamara, Tamara should get fired. She's horrible. Like all she does is shitster, which is good, right? That's a good thing to do on housewives and I think she's really done a lot for the show shit stirring But she can't even shitster with this crew and she's on Twitter blaming everybody else

She even said they should be casted or she said she wishes they cast it better because someone said this season sucks And she said well last season was worse. I get I wish they'd get better with casting and Someone said aren't those your friends they cast? And she said, no, I don't even know Emily. She was just a party planner, so whatever. Which I don't think is true, because she was mad at Emily at the beginning of the season for talking to Ricky,

the gay guy. Yeah, I don't know. It's, yeah, I think something has to happen. I don't know if the people that need to be fired or people who are in front of the camera or behind it, you know, because the question is, is it like lackluster because we have uninteresting people or is it lackluster because we have people driving the story on the production end that are not doing a good job and I just don't know the answer to that. Well Kelly, you know, I mean, yes, Kelly did almost beat up a husband and threaten a murder somebody, which is the best episode of the season. But I don't think they have to be at each other's throats for it to be fun.

I mean, Kelly's been the most fun and she hasn't really fought since then. But you know, here's the thing though, is that Vicki, Tamra, Shannon and Kelly are all really big personalities and we've seen them be highly, highly entertaining. And the fact that now we're on a second season where they've all been kind of dull means that whoever's pulling the strings, you know, on the production end, has not been doing their job properly. They have not been able to elicit responses. They have not been able to, like, put these women in scenarios where shit's happening. That's weird because it sounds like I'm asking for producer interference. It's not even that. I just think like something is there is like an art to crafting a reality show.

Part of it is on the cast. I mean, they in a certain way have like chilled out a lot and they just they're in a certain way they're protecting their images. But in other ways, there's just not a lot of interesting storylines coming through. So I think some of that does fall on their casting. I don't think that Gina and Emily really galvanized this cast in any exciting way. I think Gina seemed to have some... It seemed like she was going to, you know, at that first poker party when she was loud and obnoxious

and we're like, okay, she's gonna be a real firecracker. But she spent the entire season just clarifying what she said. And it's like, oh, that's like not as fun. You have a choice when you're around shanning, because she's like, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? What did you say? It's like, okay, let me say it again. Yeah, but like there's certain alpha type of reality stars that when they're misunderstood they double down and they just they go harder. I mean look at the entire cast of New York. Look at Kelly Dodd, but but Gina and Emily have spent the whole season just trying to be

friends with everyone and it didn't really lead to an interesting feud between the two groups. So I guess I guess I'm arguing that there are a lot of issues. It's not an either or. I mean, I think that the show running has been a lackluster. And I think the casting has been lackluster. And I think the people they brought on have not been interesting enough to elicit interesting stories. Well, I hate to agree with you on that, but I do. And after talking

about this ship for so many years, still what makes a good season? Who knows? Well, sometimes because I mean, I'm surprised how good some seasons are, you know, but this one, and look, we even like last season pretty much, and that was not the best season. Yeah. And we even found fun in that, but this year, it just seems like no one's really having fun. I don't need to watch Vicki have another goddamn face left. I'm over it. Okay, I'm over it I don't need this I don't need to watch Tamer pretend that she's still fucking her husband every five minutes and then do nothing else Like that literally all she did this season was where the Eddie was gonna have a heart attack and pretend that she fucks him all the time That's it. Yeah, and that's where that's bad storytelling. That's where the show running is at a deficit because what did...

What have Kelly, Vicki, and Tamra done all season? Eddie had hard issues, so there was that. But overall, Tamra wasn't doing anything. She's just reacting. Shannon was going through stuff. Shannon... As Shannon is usually the most interesting person on the show, and she was generally pretty interesting. Gina was going through shit and so her storyline was pretty, it wasn't terribly interesting but it was strong in terms of as a story. Emily also had some stuff going on with her mom and the babies and everything.

Vicki did nothing. Vicki was up to nothing. So when people are doing nothing that can that can affect storyline I mean watching Vicky and Steve that's not interesting TV So yeah, I don't know there's there's there's got to be some shakeups and I actually feel like You know, I get worried turning over new members of a cast over and over again because I feel like then you never get like a gel but I do think that we may need to get more cast members. And but I do think that backs like behind the

scenes there has to be a shake up to. Yeah, agreed. So get on it everybody. Get on a problem. Yeah. What do we have to do it for you? We'll do it. We will. We will bring a remona in for like a vacation season, you know. I'm so sick of that. She would not even, she would not even be able to deal with these women. It'd be like, uh, uh, so this, um, so this, the season finale opens up with shots of everyone doing lots of very unexciting things. Uh, we have Emily at Perry's house across the street where she's planning this big Mother's Day femme fatale party We have Gina and she's with her mom and kids in a bedroom like pluck and popcorn out of a shag carpet, you know Yeah, that's the thing about shopping at those Ross and Marshalls and all all those places like that

You can get really cute things made out of plastic fur, but girl you better not spill on them Yeah, yeah, don't put them in a kid's room, that's for sure. Yeah. Also, kids don't like it. I remember when I was a kid, you know, I don't need shag. Not that I had shag, but like if I'm working on my building blocks, I need a level, I need a level stable floor. I can't, I can't build my structures.

I can't ride my little cars through shag. Yeah, you can't. Your cars will get stuck on everything. We're very manly children, okay? We've had a lot of cars. Yeah. Blocks, croons, blocks, cars, weapons.

Yeah. I had cabbage at Jadaels. Like, let's face it. I never had one. I actually wanted one. I never had one. I have like a million. I've loved all their weird names

It's like Willa Fattucci Smith Send or whatever they were just like put random names together. Okay, the point is Genos having a femme fatale party, but she didn't Google what femme fatale means, okay? Yeah, here's a femme fatale Yeah, Emily here's a femme fatale Jessica rabbit Linda Fiorentino Madonna from Dick Tracy Kathleen how Jessica rabbit. Linda Fiorentino. Madonna from Dick Tracy. Kathleen. What am I? Why can't I can't remember her last name all the stuff? Kathleen Turner and a lot of Turner and everyone Griffith and body double or whatever that one was where she's

behind the blinds. Any lady in a serious movie from 1942 to 1950. Yeah, that's a woman who fucks you then fucks up your entire life, either you die at the end or you wish you were dead at the end. Exactly. And the classic femme fatale usually wears some things sort of like long and drapey and slinky and dark and has, you know, you can do a classic femme fatale

or you can do like a modern femme fatale, which is either way it's like, it's not about like, it's about sex appeal, but it's not about sluddiness. Yeah, agreed. Um, because, you know, boost eight is not a femme fatale make that screw over Matt Dylan in some kind of a way. Now that's a femme fatale. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. John Johnson alone in the house with your pet tiger. And then, you know, he's afraid for his life, that's a femme fatale.

Yeah, bleach blonde, you know, if you want to like bleach blonde your hair and then like go after your son and then get beaten up with a sack of oranges, that's a femme fatale. That's a femme fatale. I love that movie. That's a good one. Gryfters, right? Yeah, the Gryfters. Oh, that's a good movie.

Yeah. There's two femme fatales in that. There's doing femme fatales in that one I just I just want it. That's true If you want to be naked on a bit. Okay, that doesn't work on that point But you know what though? I just watched I rewatch one of my favorite film Wars last week Red Rock West and Larifland Boyle That's a great one. It's so good and Like it's one of my all-time favorite movies and Larifland Boy, the femme fatale on that one and she spends pretty much the entire movie in Brown's Lacks

with like a little sort of like country western shirt and you know what femme fatale because she's got arched eyebrows Yeah, Joan Crawford femme fatale eyebrows eyebrows. Yeah eyebrows and a boost. Yeah, I just want to sit here and think about other femme fatale I browse Annabelle's DA. I just want to sit here and think about other Fempha- Kimbassinger, Bat Basinger, L.A. Confidential, Fempha-Tal is,

although she wasn't very fatali in that movie, was she, she was just a bombshell, I think. Yeah, she was a Fempha-Tal. I don't remember really what she did. I don't remember if she was a... She'd done away, she was a hot-toward. She was a hot-toward for Kimmy. She was a hot-toward for Kimmy.

She was a hot-toward for Kimmy. She was a hot-toward for Kimmy. Fempha-Tal, Chinatown. Yeah. Okay, now let's talk about a Femme self-harm. Vicki. How has Vicki recovering from hurting herself this season? So she's sitting around with Steve and she's like,

oh Steve, look at these flowers I got for you, Bakelip, Vienna. Oh, that was so nice of you guys. Vicki, okay, you bought yourself those flowers. Yeah. When you have to start the scene by like bragging how much everybody cares about you all Mother's Day, you're lying. Okay.

For Steve, it's deep and pretending. He goes, how nice of us. She's like, yeah, she's like, I didn't even yearn say that. That's so funny. Steve is over Vicki in this episode. He goes, how nice of us. And she goes, I've got to look at my face. That's so funny. I think he was overviking this episode. He got how nice of us. She goes, I've got a look at my face. Do I need a Zadex? Do I look smooth? Oh, whoa, whoa. Do I look smooth? Oh! I have no one to say that two weeks. You know, I just went into the shop, got a tire change.

I look like the mannequin man now, right? Don't say yes to that. Please don't. He goes, what the heck are you talking about? A tire change. She goes, okay, I raced it. I raced it. Pretend I didn't say it. Oh, look, I got a bouquet from the pet boys. Oh, that was so nice of them. That's a ball tire. I don't think you ever want to compare yourself to a ball tire. At least be a new tire. You know, get some new threads. Your face could use that. Yeah. Yeah. My face may look the same, but it's better with the raid now. Maybe like don't even talk about get like don't compare yourself to a tire change. How about that? Yeah, that's a good idea. She's I think someone reminded us on Twitter

that we were talking about we were comparing Vicki to a tire swing last week. Why? I don't know. I don't know where that came from, but I vaguely remember it. And I was like, you see we we might be psychic and we never even know it because we forget everything we say right after we say it. Yeah, exactly. Like I vaguely remember talking about our being in a tire swing. Oh the water in the tire swing that accumulates after rain. That's gross. So Steve's like, Steve's like, God help me get me out of here. So over at Shanans, by the way, Shanans and tires season, they were like this seat. Previous they attack the event. On the red half last month, Counties Batch. Shannon's was like, OK, kids, I made some salmon with cream cheese. It was one of her things.

Yeah. And then wait, where's her other thing? Where did I put it? God damn it. Oh, yeah. I'm not going to get you another phone screen. That is it. I've already bought you two phone screens.

Yeah. This is the saddest piece my buffer is out through. I know. So Shannon is, she's like, hey, hey girls girls. I have cooked some food for you And I'd like you oughta come in and enjoy it and I can promise that this has no stuffed cream cheese It's a turkey burger that's stuffed with cream cheese. Oh, huh look what I did there. I stuffed it anyway. I can't help myself Whops it anyway. I can't help myself. Whoops! It's good, it's a good turkey burger. It reminds me my very good friendship with Tamra Judge. Turkey burger face, Tamra Judge. And Archie's hiding behind

the couch, kind of looking. It looks like he's not allowed to beg, but he's also like, do I want a bag? Yeah. Sorry, really? And then Sophie's like, we need to talk, mom. I want birth control for my cramps. She's like, what? What? What? What? What? What?

Are you kidding me right now? Do you, do I want to give you birth control? No. No? How about this? How about no man allowed backstage at a lot of concert? How about that? It's like,-wild backstage at a lot concert? How about that? It's like, but I want it for my face. She's like, ah!

Wow, and she says, all my friends are on birth control right now. She's like, wow, congratulations on being friends with her! Yeah. By the way, Sophie has no acne. I don't know what she's talking about. She's like, oh, I'm breaking out so much. She's got the face of an angel. Yeah. What the hell? I would kill to have a face like that when I was her age. Also, I would kill to need birth control at that age because I really didn't need it. Yeah. Yeah. No one was barking up the rondel tree. No one was climbing my like five inch thick glasses. No one wanted to be in our trees. It's sad. There are are own tire swings. I know we are just two sad trees

Basically they death becomes our of trees which we're just trees at the end of the Arbor item Hold the sack trees So then Emily meanwhile goes to a place called Wicked Chamber which is owned by a lady named Bright which already has me questioning many things and she's there with Tamar and Kelly because they're gonna get their looks for the femme Patal party and again it's like you don't need to necessarily get into our costume to be a femme Patal just like get a nice dress. Yeah, just do something mean to Matt Dillon, you know, make Matt Dillon think you love him and then ruin his life. Yeah, just like watch a movie with Teresa Russell and take notes and

just go to like a store and be like, see this woman dress me like her. So this lady bright, wow, um, high orge County, maybe we can start with bright. If anybody knows bright, tell her nobody needs shoulder cutouts, okay, those are done. I think those were done in like the 80s, but I know that Orange County likes to hold on to shit like that, but why does everybody in this cast, even the brights of the cast, have to have shoulder cutouts? I don't want that. Yeah, cutouts are just very popular in Orange County, I guess.

I don't know that. Yeah, cutouts are just very popular in Orange County, I guess. I don't know what it is. There's just, if there's excessive fabric, it's like, that's no good. Cut out, like find a circle, find a triangle, find a square, just cut something out. Cut it out. Yeah, cut it out. And speaking of fashions, Emily is there in a,

it looks like a paper, a mishap, and the other that's already been beaten. I don't know what dress she was wearing. I didn't even notice. It was terrifying okay. So Tamera and Kelly come in and Kelly is like, could I look like a whore? What is a phantastel? What a be a hoe.

What a be a hoe. Again. Very different, very different vertical for a different vertical for a look, you know, a hoe, femme fatale, two different things. Yeah, but Emily doesn't really know, so she's like, who's just ladies who wear a boost, EA? Is a confidence to doctorus? But I want to be a hoe! And then Emily goes, but it's celebrating mothers and mothers and laws. I'll say, what? Lady, you need to Google your own damn party. Okay, this is getting great. This is out of hand.

This is officially out of hand now, Emily. Not like it makes sense. And by the way, if femme fatale is not necessarily as a doctorous, okay, femme fatale is a femme fatale. Yeah. Stop trying to mess with me, lady. Yeah. If femme fatale is good for wearing like a trench coat You know, it's smoking a cigarette that's it. That's not a that's not a seductress. That's just a trench coat with a cigarette

That's a femme fatale. So then Emily's like one mom is coming and everyone's like oh great and Tamra just gets that look in her face like I love Ringing relationships with mothers. Yeah like I love ruining relationships with mothers. Yeah. Let's get Shannon. Her trying to, her starting all that shit between Shannon and Shannon's mother and law at the rock concert for the kids.

Mother Donna. Well, you know, um, Tamara was also getting BDI because she probably wanted to have a special scene with her mom for the finale. And then she finds out that Emily gets to bring her mom and such. She's like, oh my god, I can't have a special moment with Sandy

where we're talking about all the different Frank's in her life again. Oh my god. Oh, is this where she starts going off about how dirt like she tries to be like, I don't even understand this party. I mean, I like a dirty party. I don't see it in my notes, but when she's talking about how she had her pre-baptism, whore party, and like brought a bag of dildes and stuff. I don't remember where that was. Okay, so let's, right now, talk about the Disney Housewives commercial. Did you see that?

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you can listen ad free on the Amazon music or Wendry app. So at the store, Wicked, what's it called? So Gina calls up and she's like, oh my God, I'm having such formal, like hard call. I wish I was at Wicked Chamber, but instead I'm at my casita because man, I getting divorced and we found this house Makes it much easier for the kids you know it's like okay, okay Like the background like being she's in the background like in her own grace the musical

She just comes out in like a Barney costume look at this one look at this Look at me. I Look at this! Okay, that was... Now I'm in Manny! Yeah! Look at me, I'm Oliver! Just like Joly! So, um, Gina wants to talk to Tamra. She's like, I feel like we haven't talked since my birthday and things are like a little weird. And so I'm gonna be a Micah Seeda tomorrow. Can you come by and chat?

You can just see Tamra's like, the last thing she wants to do is go to one bedroom building. I know Tamra has really clawed her way up from that dumpster okay she doesn't want to go backwards. Yeah and then she makes herself the victim because she's like I'm just I'm just hurt by Gina. I mean I just didn't think she was the type of person to run to Shannon and talk crap about me. I'm like okay shut the fuck up Tamra this your entire MO. That's exactly what you did, do, and you do it like three more times in this episode. Here's a- just don't get it! I just don't get it!

Like, you started everything! Yeah. So then the next day, Tamara does go over the genus and she's like, welcome to my casino! And Tamara's like, welcome to my casino! And Tamra's like, wow, beautiful. It's very co-sense, boys and girls. Did you notice the transition they made when Tamra walked to the casino? Basically the camera lingered on this hot guy, the surfer who was walking across the beach,

and he walks, there's like a woman standing in the foreground, and the surfer walks like by the woman and so he like for a second he disappears by the woman and the camera is like panning to the right and and like when we pan by the woman the surfer becomes Tamra and Tamra is at the casita i was like oh my god she's a shapeshifter. I always knew it. I always knew it. But why does she always choose that shape? I don't know. I'm telling the different.

I'm Tamra's. Oh! Yeah, it wasn't as good as the ass transition they did earlier this year. But the surfer that turns into Tamra was a pretty cool effect. Yeah, we can't blame production on everything, because you see that they're making an effort with stuff like that. Post-production is doing the best that they can. They're like, shit, this is boring, so we're gonna put in some funky transitions that make no sense.

Well, don't worry, they're here to have a really fascinating conversation now. So production can calm down. Tamro's like, wow, Kosa, half the cat. Um, uh, Jean is like, oh my god, it's really nice yet. It was really good to see the kids. Tamer's like wow Kosa half the cats Genie's like oh my god. It's really nice yet. It was really good to see the kids. I saw the kids a little today race She's like living in the eraser poor Oh my god, I said you didn't come to my party and it's not that I even care about birthdays because I'm like 34 years It's's that it was the first birthday and years that I just been alone with Amia.

Yeah. Oh my God. And you know, last week, we were struggling to remember what the special thing is that Gina and Matt always do together on vacations is that they go to stores and they buy ornaments for Christmas. Oh yeah, we were trying to remember that last week. We're like, it's a bikinis. But no, she did have a special memory for bikinis too. She did have that as well. Well, everything's a special memory. It's like, well, you know, this is my first birthday with a man 11 years and like, you know, it's kind of our thing that like when we go out to my, for my birthday, that we like sitting chairs and like, I don't know, sitting chairs is kind of like our thing that we do on birthdays, you know.

And my girlfriend, I ordered fried calomari. I almost had a breakdown, but she didn't know she didn't know what she was doing But oh we always want to kill the barry And we always ask for water refills cuz you know sometimes get really thirsty and it's like it's weird because like you know Like you know Kelly was there and she ordered water and it was like it felt like map It was Kelly, you know, it's like I wish tamer was there because you know filling up water is like a thing you know. If they have lemon in it, no! A slice of lemon, it's like our thing we invented it, we thought it was super cool. Like why have just a glass of water when you can have a slice of lemon in it?

I don't know, think about it, try it. The tamar is like, yes sirs. Um, the thing is, I never open up about about Shannon and then I opened up about Shannon to you And she said, you said I was meant she said you said I said she was mental. Oh my god Yeah, and then they should have the flashback and you know all genus says is you know people are talking and they're concerned about like where you want man to leave or whatever and that's Kelly who goes, yeah, it's Tamra. Tamra's been the one talking. And by the way, Tamra was the one talking.

You're all wrong. You were all talking about Shannon and why is everyone so afraid of Shannon? I think that when the whole group is afraid of one person, it's time to reevaluate because that's just ridiculous. What's Shannon going to do? Tamra and Vicki sat there at that bar with Kelly and they talked about how Shannon should be medicated. They all did and no one should be embarrassed about it.

A great bin. And also, Tamara, have some balls for price sake. So Gina's like, yeah, the clip about mental health and then she goes, Shannon, she's telling you blatant lines. Which they aren't really and jammers like I scammed like camera right there it's like they're brulee she goes but I don't know her to live she's here but who truth is a little skewed the yabbage it's not a liar I hope I hope I've been trapped in the wrong person it's all times oh god I mean she was like

listen if I wanted to fuck your friendship with Shannon Bedouin I would have said Oh God, I mean, do you know what I'm saying? Oh God, I mean, do you know what I'm saying? Oh God, I mean, do you know what I'm saying? Oh God, I mean, do you know what I'm saying? Oh God, I mean, do you know what I'm saying? Oh God, I mean, do you know what I'm saying? Oh God, I mean, do you know what I'm saying? Oh God, I mean, do you know what I'm saying? Oh God, I mean, do you know what I'm saying? Oh God, I mean, do you know what I'm saying?

Oh God, I mean, do you know what I'm saying? Oh God, I mean, do you know what I'm saying? Oh God, I mean, do you know what I'm saying? Oh God, I mean, do you know what I'm saying? Oh God, I was at all that stuff. You think President Beelch is stupid? And Tamra's like, uh, uh, like you see Tamra's little possumized start going back and forth and she's like, oh, oh, oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, thank you. I forgive you. Um, she's so glad we made that because she just Gina came to play. Okay, she had everything listed that Tamra did wrong. She outed her because Tamra screwed her over. and then the clips We haven't even seen those clips the editors put on in all those clips to back Gina up. Yeah

Yeah, good job Gina. Yeah, good job So now we go over to Emily at LAX and she's picking up her mom Carolyn who Has basically spent the past year in a depression where she hasn't left her house But over the past two weeks she depression where she hasn't left her house, but over the past two weeks, she's been going to therapy and has like resurfaced and she has arrived. So it's sort of like a weird scene.

Emily picks up her mom, we see her, like a lovely looking lady and she takes her down to Orange County and Emily is kind of making little digs at her mom passive aggressively. She was like, yeah, she's like, did you know that grandma hasn't met your brothers yet? Did you know that? Did you know that grandma hasn't been around?

Did you know that? All right. And then the mom's like, well, I was around when they were born. I mean, I was here. Come on. I mean, it's not that bad. I remember they're high in relation to your daughter. Yeah.

It's like the still mom, you missed everything. This was hurtful. And like the woman has been non-depressed for two days. Can you give the woman a break, okay? Yeah, can you just like try not to send her back down that path? I mean, I get it too. I mean, like how could you not feel resentful?

Like that you have kids and your mom hasn't made the effort, you know, like I understand why Emily is resentful like that you have kids and your mom hasn't made the effort you know like I understand why Emily is resentful but like but she seems so like like she seems very aware of the fact that her mom has mental illness so you would think that she'd be like okay don't take it personally it's not about me it's just that my mom is struggling but she I guess she just hasn't turned that corner yet yeah and Emily is like well I, well, when the mom says, I know how they stand a relationship to your daughter, which is such an odd thing to say.

Emily's like, yeah, mom, but that was a year ago. And she's like, I lost a year. What can I say, Emily? Okay, a year was lost. I've got to make up for it. And then she tries to smile. And I'm like, oh my god, this is so sad. I know, that was a very like,

that was like, let me just drag you on. National PV, you've got Shane at home. Drag him. Leave the mother alone. I know that was a very like that was like let me just drag you on national pv You've got shame that home drag him yeah, I'm there alone Shane who gives carol in such a cold on feeling hog is like hello So So now now it's time for the party and everyone's getting ready and we's getting tied into a course I guess she's at Paris house because they're there's just, they're in some crazy bathroom with marble columns and a mural, so it's like, this has to be Paris House.

Yeah, it's very, it's very parry. And she's got like three people trying to tie a probustia. That's like me before every event ever. So there's reasons I like Emily, you know? Just leave your mom alone. Yeah, and then she goes, she goes, can you breathe? And she goes, no, not at all. She goes, well, if you turn blue, just apply more makeup. Kegos no, Kegos no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,'s obviously gay to me, like he has gay face. Which I don't use that as a slam obviously because hi, I don't know if everybody is realizing this, I'm a homosexual, okay? I'm proud.

Yeah. But he has gay face, right? He has like gay, um, so I did not, I did not pick up on that. I was just more fixated on the fact that he like Mike Shoe had himself had not shaved for his date and he had like facial hair that was like growing up to like the bags on his eyes and I was like you got a shave if you're if you're a hairline if you're facial airline goes up at high you have to shave that shit. Yeah and Kelly it's, what was my go like realize this guy's hard. He's hard. He's hard.

So Kelly's definition of a femme fatale is like a where in the world is Carmen Sandiego hat? And really bright red lips. Why? I don't know. It was like a misguided blonde ambition toward look. I mean, it was like, yeah, I worked out desperately seeking season, but you know, we're on the same gay icon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like she, because she had like slacks, but then like, what do you call like a sat like a silky like lingerie top thing? I forgot what you call those things, which is wearing it. And then, but like also like a little bit of a blazer, but then the big hat. So it was like a misguided blonde ambition. Like it needed the cones.

And who knows what it was? It needed Rosanna Arcette just like posing next to her with the cigarette. Like the very best, it was a really seeking season to me. Ultimately, it was not, it was not femme fatale. That's really seeking Shannon. Oh!

That's pretty seeking some dick. Oh, looks like it found it. It's the work DSD So then me while Gina's getting ready for her party and she's putting makeup on and her son is like are you gonna be going to your little house? I was like I love that even her son shans it You're gonna go live in your tiny house, mom. She's like, no. And she goes, are you having fun with grandma? And he says no, and she's like,

really? And he says, when are you coming back? And she's like, you know, this is the trouble. Nick is so smart. He's so sensitive. He knows if something's happening, it's not good. So it's a ticking time bomb. You. So, it's a ticking time bomb. You know, sensitive kids, the ticking time bomb.

So, we're gonna have to find a way to present it. Baby, you already moved out of the house. Yeah. You presented it. He's seen you back and leave. Like, you don't come home. Tell them already you was. She needs to put up some divorce decor, you know?

Like, a little bit of like some signs divorce home is where the hot is the hot isn't to do different homes you know for the left that's on gathered like the longest sign pepper so yeah so that's that's what's going on with her and she won't she won't put on her femme fatale outfit in front of her mom Which means that she also misunderstood because there's nothing embarrassing about a femme fatale outfit Anyway, I feel like a teenage a mom especially because I'm gonna be around Vicki. She's like 97 years old I feel like that time like when I went out and I told you guys I was gonna go study the Bible somewhere on a Friday night and then instead I went to the back of your chevalet and I banged Matt Bianca Nato. Remember that mom?

She's like, no. Yeah, she's like, yeah, because you put up a sign that said, bang Bianca Nato. Bianca Nato. Bianca Nato. Matt Bianca Nato. So, um, wait, I have to talk about this part because they did this last year too. I mean, it's so shady. So everyone else, the beginning of their scenes are like, look, lady sunbathing.

You know, look, it's somebody surfing, but when it's Tamra, it's some old guy, like, with a metal detector searching for nickels on a beach. That's about right. It's good visual metaphor for Tamer's life. So funny. So she's getting her hair and makeup done and of course she has surrounded herself with people who are as bright as she is and she's like I've got to go to a femme fatale part is I make my hair look like femme fatale and the makeup bar is like oh I don't even know what that is. I thought it was called Femi Fatali My god just die orange caromy just fall into the ocean already

Christ sake Sit down. It's like trying to figure out what to do with my hair And Shannon comes over check Like you can see here the noise of Shannon just coming up this there. Oh, she's up. Oh, she's up. Back and roll. To sleep this whole.

Me. Because when they had the rock and roll party, Shannon dressed like Brett Michaels. And so he invited her to the his concert, which is the same day as this season finale, which kind of shows you where Shannon is at this point. Yeah, also I didn't really realize any of that until the very end of the episode when she dressed up like Brett Michaels on left the party. I was like, wait, oh, is that why she's been talking about rock and roll so much? Yeah, she kept saying Brett Michaels over and over and I was starting to worry that she had diabetes.

Yeah. Because that's what he was always talking about. I'm like, oh, that salmon and cream cheese did something bad to shaman, shaman. Yeah, because she was talking about how like, well, I went to Catellian, but I'm really like, rock, or go for 80s. I was like, okay. I didn't realize that, again, I didn't realize she's going to a Brett Michael's concert, a poison concert. And she's wearing the same Brett Michael's outfit, which is funny. Yeah. Also, also by the way when Tamra doesn't know like how to make her hair Look for femme fatale. What's stopping any of these women from going on to Google images? I mean, it's just the easiest thing the easiest thing

Oh, this is where Tamra's like Thump fatale But that sounds like an old lady orgy like old ladies and better get up Sagittites and wets. Like your baptism party. Like yeah, if you were introducing yourself to Jesus, okay, at least this one's just an excuse for Emily to have a finale party in her house.

Yeah, exactly. And again, no whips or chains involved necessarily. Although I mean, I guess one can make a argument for Sharon Stone and Biss again think to God a little kinky there. Let's throw a dominatrix though. Well it's more like she had that sort of hurt. That's not what made her the femme fatale. The femme, the femme fatale. I feel like I'm getting his bit on my cheek.

Oh my god I have one on the tip of my nose. I feel like I have this one. I hate that when you feel it coming in. I've been drinking water. I have a, I have like my right eyeball hurts today. It feels like there's like maybe like a zit that's coming in like in the I live, you know. God dammit. So she says, uh, says a tamar is like, I have to warn you. I can't imagine that because she was at the start for this old lady, Sagittance party, and she's second to our guns about saying that she cares for you. Which, like, what a horrible thing to say, you know?

Yeah. And Shannon's like, wow, really? Four days after surgery? What is the point of bringing anything up? Which he's right. That was dumb of Gina. I also want to point out, Emma totally says it was Kelly. This is all Kelly. Yeah, gonna tell you what's going on. I'm gonna tell you what's going on. I'm gonna tell you what's going on. I'm gonna tell you what's going on. I'm gonna tell you what's going on. I'm gonna tell you what's going on. I'm gonna tell you what's going on.

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I mean, you're going to compare the mentally disabled mother who never leaves the house? No. And Channins like, Ha! Well, it's so funny that Emily is going to to put labels or ha ha ha! David diagnosed me when this is a girl who threatened someone's life twice! I don't know what hairdresser told Channin that that was a good argument, but she's gonna say it 20 times today, like she's just discovered, you know, the great mystery of the earth. And she's like, oh my you're a lawyer! Wow! Well, you know, even licensed psychiatrist have to spend a certain amount of time with

someone before they label or diagnose them like Dr. Moon, totally legit Dr. So then Perry comes at and she's just like the cutest little frugal rock mom. Yeah. She's like so little, I want her to have sticks on her hands like the puppet. She basically does I mean, she we just technology has really improved that we just can't see them But she as if she has a full-on Jim Henson company vibe And Emily tells us oh I'm glad she's happy because she has very high expectations She's like the godfather if she's unhappy with me. I'll wake up the next day living in a condo driving a Jedi Which I love is like the ultimate the ultimate degradation in Orange County

Yeah, you have a job which is better than her son. Okay. I think you're making her son look better Yeah, exactly also Perry gets credit for actually dressing like a femme fatale Does she what is she wearing like a little black widow dress? Well, I guess that would make sense. She's had a little stole, she had a little sequined dress. She was doing like a 1940s femme fatel. I wouldn't matter you, but then cute of you, M.A. So, um, so anyway, so Perry's dress probably. Shane's just sitting on the stairs in a shirt. I like when girls come in. Like Gina comes in, he's like, hi. Hi.

I like you're the host. You're like, you're also hosting this party. You're Shlubb. Can you try to look nice? I feel like Julia Sweeney who played Pat on SNL is playing him. He's just like, oh, I think so. So yeah, she's just sitting there. Pretty all the guys this party are dressed like shlobs This is standard orange County the women come dressed to the nines or in it in their attempt at a femme fatale look

But the guys are dressed in like look like they're ready to go to like Bass pro shops or whatever they're called yeah, that's like Austin I can't wait to go to Austin every bit all the women are dressed in like glitter gorgeous house So I was dressed this in the manner like me like good. You like my new flip flops. I can't wait to go to Austin. Every bit all the women are dressed in like glitter, gorgeous house-lives dresses in the manner like me. Like, God, you like my new flip flops? I love a buddy. So Shannon shows up. It looked like at first she was wearing like a cow pattern. Like it was white with these big black splotches. It was full on like whole-steamed chic. And then I realized that they were actually black roses, which I guess was her nod to a femme fatale. I still think she thinks it's a mom party.

Yeah. So Gina tries to hug Shane, but he's like, oh, she's like, well, you know, I'm not married to him. So it is what it is. Yeah. So people said about Rumpel's Tillskin also. At least Rumpel's Tillskin's so stuff. Yeah. So then Eddie and Shannon and Tamara in the car.

Oh my God, this was so funny. So Eddie's like, wow, you look sexy, Shannon. And Shannon's like, oh, I guess I'd vote lady in the grandma dress and jacket. He's like, no, no, look at, look at, well, look at you. Look at you. And Timer is like, so Adi, do you not, Emily, he's like, yeah, I met her once or twice, she's nice,

trying to go, ha, I'll do you now, Gina? He's like, yeah. Hmm, well, they're not the nicest to me, but what do I know? I'm just a rocker, leady, trapped in grandma clothes at a femme fatale party. Ha, I'm sort of like the cream cheese wrapped in salmon right now. A little bit of a surprise for leader if you know what I'm saying.

Then Eddie just goes, AHHHH! Like, he sighs so loudly, he hates her so much, and Tamar is just in the center in the middle of them, like, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing, Pac-so-send-a-thing I want to thank Patrick, so gotta be doing it together. Yeah, meanwhile Vicky is at the party talking to Steve and Helga, his mom and his daughter and his daughter's boyfriend. I got a face that I have like stitches right back here

and they take out all my filler and they have to put in like some peanut butter and jelly and they have to stick it in and it's packing, it's tight. And I look smooth, I look smooth, right? It doesn't, it doesn't look good. And they're all just like staring at her horrified and then the rude, I think that's his name, the future sun and law, perhaps.

He just stares at her and goes, well, you look great. What are you saying when someone's like, the cat went for my ear, bought my head, the cat up ahead. Did they came to the other ear? Did they cut up a forehead? Did they sew that together? But then they took out the film and they said,

it's like, what lady? What? You just horrified everybody. Yeah. I'm horrified and I'm used to you. Yeah, exactly. So then Gina shows up. Well, well, she's already shown up and now she's like, she, she comes out with her outfit and she is literally, we should have expected this would happen. She's literally she's like dressed like Britney Spears femme fatale era like because Britney Spears had an album called femme fatale and clearly Gina was like oh my god femme fatale okay we're gonna dress like Britney Spears in the early 2010s okay I can do that. And then Gina Emily's mom comes and Emily says mommy look amazing.

She's like, I hope so, you picked it out. I guess I'm not gonna see it again for another five years. MMM. I kind of felt like, I actually felt like Carolyn looked very uncomfortable in that dress. It was like not her style and so it means she looked nice, but you could tell she was like, I don't know.

It was one of those Orange County things where they cut the sleeves up But then tie them back together. It's like very orange cat. It was like bright in the shop, you know the shoulder Yeah, poor carol and she was just like And you know because like her the rest of her styling was like Ohio or what I imagine Ohio is but her dress was Orange County and it was just like thanks for getting me something I had to be tied into right after I got out of a mental place daughter So then Perry comes out and she thinks that

She thinks that Eddie is Tamra's son, which is kind of funny Well Tamra says I brought my son and she was it could be she's a Tamra gets my son is bald and looks 90 But okay It could be, she's a... My son is bald and looks mighty, but okay! Whatever, that's like, like, time for a good fall offended. Yeah. So Shannon has a new gay. Jack.

Or Kelly. It's Kelly's gay. Oh, it's Kelly. Shannon doesn't seem to have gay's. Well, look at this one. Oh, he... He seems to know a lot about Cachillian and that threatened to make it out of here. I'm going to the Spinnan Cherry's party

without you, gay. I'm the tough steppet. So Jack is the gay and he's over talking to Gina. And he's like, oh, yeah, here's the blind bitches from New York. Bats. Is there any gay guy in the Orange County who doesn't act like this? No.

Even one. Gay guys in Orange County, you are either crazy like this guy or Ricky, or they are super, super, super, super, super, bro. Like they got like flat rim baseball caps, and I'm like, yeah, brah. I want surfing just now. Which is kind of hot. I just look for Nichols on the beach right now. Well, that's the tamar scene.

So tamar is over there. Nichols and Dick. Bruh. Dickles. Dickles. She passed. She's dick. Let's go drink some beer and honing them beach and talk about Harley Davidson's and the

waves we call bruh. Stop having to bat, bat. So tamar's like, look, look, little fracka rock lady, it's my real son. I was like, what are you bragging about? It's just him. Yeah, I know. He looks like he is on route to a driving range. He's like, here to get some quarters from Tamer so he can pay for some extra baskets of balls. So Vicki intros Shane to the mother-in-law and the mother it's like the mother-in-law Shea take it. Shane just seems to hate everybody. Yeah, right? She's like look here. James and Shane think

And how gay Colin Yeah, how does that I don't need the post-op with you Stupid that punch down My other son is Roger large. He does blind dates and such. I do not need this Shane. And Vicki goes, look, just a person at the bowl. That is crazy.

Do we wave? What do we tell the person at the bowl? OK, how do you reach up to that bowl? So I can tell her, get a job. Get a job. Having Vicki not go to tell the lady in the champagne glass that she needed the job. I think she just has to be careful with her plastic surgery.

She only has so many words she can say before it all comes unraveled. So she has to be very judicious. Yeah. She's like one of the cards in Alice in Wonderland. They can only like turn like side to side. Yeah. Well, that is basically it. Didn't she get startled by something at one point?

She's like, I didn't even see that right there. She did. I think that somebody by a valve. She looks like just a square that you're turning around with her. Oh god, then it's turning me around. Oh god, I can't see the audience. Did someone select me? Someone selected me. So then Sandy and Carolyn, Carolyn me, which I thought was funny because it was like meeting of the hair. They both have the same haircut. It was just like this moment of like game-recognized game. Sure, both. Nice to meet you. Welcome to the Mad Club. I'm Sandy. Carolyn's like, why did I ever leave my house for this? I'm just like I'm people wonder why I'm fucking depressed. Okay, there's a reason I never come to this town

There's a hoe on a bowl my daughter squeezed is something I don't understand They've tied me into a dress and now I've got a lady with a bowl cut yelling at me. My son-in-law is a lizard. So So Shannon Tamer and Gina sit down because they're gonna have a conversation. It's time for a confrontation so because they're gonna have a conversation. It's time for a confrontation. So, they sit down and Gina starts to, you know, she starts doing her thing about like, all I was saying before was that there was a lot of conversations about your mental state.

I wasn't naming names, pointing fingers, but I never thought that. I never thought that your mental state was crazy. I'm just saying there was a lot of convociations about it. And Shannon's like, Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Well, I just want to make one thing clear. I blew up at a dinner party after just a few simple shots,

a few shots, and now I'm totally sane. I'm sane. I'm very, very sane. I have 40 to 50 seen thoughts a day like just now I thought I could go for a trisket that's pretty seen right I say that scene but I didn't say I could go for a trisket and I coke which means I'm gonna have a dry mouth oh god am I saying that my fuck you why is that trisket looking at me? Does it know I want to eat it?

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Now, that judgmental shit said, please never fix yourself, because I love it. But then they show the clips to back it up of Shannon just losing it, being like, I am taking off my microphone. Do not, I love it. I have a few responsible shots and I am just first reading right now. That's it for people to be careless and irresponsible with their labeling.

And Gina goes, that's not me, that's your fans. Don't kill the messenger, the messenger is nice. Hey, let me tell you something, Miss Gina. I followed you into a stable and I watched you get a label maker and that was irresponsible of you because those are not for people who have only been around people not long enough to label them. You said you're concerned. Okay, Shannon. That's not a bad thing to say about somebody.

They're concerned. After that person is having a freaking fit and probably a heart attack. And Gina said, yeah, but I'm concerned based on what your friends is saying and how you acting. How I'm acting. Well, last time I checked, I wasn't a test being. So already your theory is the bound. No, no, no, no Did you see this? Oh my God, I was horrified. Horrified.

I love dirty job. That is a great podcast. And people said the whole time, oh my God, this totally sounds like Vicki's life story. And I don't want to spoil it for anybody who hasn't seen it because you know, I'm a jerk like that, but I'm not going to spoil it. I will just say Vicki is such a fucking compulsive liar.

And he says so so Vicki Do you see yourself in dirty John the story? I'm sick. Oh my god. Yes, because everybody was telling me you know this bad is bad for you And I just kept saying no no like Vicki you about the guy teeth and then broke up with him And now you're like totally ruining him on national TV I'm not saying that he's not the worst. He is. But you went along with everything he said. And now you're sitting here blaming him like he's dirty, John. I hope he suits you. I just went to Claire, when I say he's like,

dirty, John, I'm just saying like he was one of my vodkas, you know, because I had the bloody piggy and then I had to do the John. That's all. That's what I'm saying. He just never watched it said the way. You that said why do you got somebody dirty jabs? That's all that's all I'm saying Yeah, I was like I cannot believe I mean I know Bravo has a lot invested in this They've got like two really big names. I mean aribanya and and What's her face for my favorite who I can't remember name all the time I'm like yeah You're you're just like Connie written Vicki. Yeah, but like I mean, it's their way of saying

Hey, if you like watching Orange County, then you'll probably like Did it John? I was like if you like abusive men What's dirty John? I was like you guys are really the lowest of the low Thank you. I was just gonna like he's just gonna come up on screen just like stand with his legs like two feet apart and his hands in his pocket And he'll just sway forward and backwards. Yeah, that's how he acts Yeah, and then they had another one later where they were interviewing them and everybody's being really actory And he's like the thing about getting into this role is It's really trying to understand a better like that who could be like that?

I'm like gross never listen to an actor in an interview. I know. It's not like that. Who could be like that? I was like, gross. Never listened to an actor in an interview. I know, it's the worst. So, then, and 30 John is high, brash, shut up, Eric Bannon, you're the Hulk. Yeah, so then we come back and Shannon's doing this that thing where her hands are like, she's basically taking both hands and she's like, they look like their karate chops,

but they're pointing at each other and she has them and she starts like rolling they look like they're karate chops, but they're pointing at each other, and she has them, and she starts rolling them around each other. Like she's making like a, it looks like a, like a plow or something like that. You know, she just has to go, she starts rolling them around each other, and then everyone then one goes flying off. Like, you are seeing these things about me, Gina's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, you know?

That's her movement for a pot stirring, because Gina's just said, I'm concerned, and she's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh my god, you are dredging upset. Yeah, also don't be mad about Gina. If you think Gina's a posterer, well, then guess what? I bad news for you because your best friend is Tamra. And she is the queen posterer, okay? She is such a posterer. She is that thing that they sell late at night where you put batteries in it. It serves the pot for you. You don't need to put your hand on it just serves.

Tamra put the fucking tomato stuff in the pot. Yeah, okay? Somebody didn't serve it. stuff in the pot. Yeah. Somebody didn't stir it, it would just burn. Yeah. So then we see a clip of her not saying that at all. And then Gina's like, I never said that you're mistaken. How you tried to put me in a situation of saying,

who's going to kill someone? You tried to make me responsible for Emily. I'm trying to kill Kelly, which is I'm anxious and Regis and Gina's like no all I said is that if it would me Yeah, what I would have told Kelly not to do that. I would have told him not to speak to Shane Wow stop saying things that are all life altering Stop saying things that are all life altering rumors. Ever do, bro. Yeah.

OK, you need to stop bringing stuff. She's like mad at the dinosaurs for like hatching. Like, you know, a zillion years ago. And Sam was like, if you didn't go extinct, we wouldn't build these parks that threatened little children. Oh, Timer is like, shit, and turn it at us. She's like the ex-husband.

I still hear about it. You just say there. I was like, really? Like,us. She's like my ex-husband. I still hear about it, you just lay there. I was like really, we're still hearing about your ex-husband. Well also, yeah. But then also, why is Tamerra get a pass for saying that Shannon is like Simon, whereas Gina, why is Gina catching the fly for all this stuff where his Tamerra can say something like that,

which is I think just incendiary, which there are not none of its incendiary, but in Shannon speak it is like why is Tamer going to pass? Because cameras just never stops, you know, at a certain point, just like the wheel is squeaky. Like if Gina had said, oh, you're like, Simon, I'm like, how? Now you're going to say that I'm the abuse of one. You're going to say that I'm the one who's controlling an awful. That what you mean? But Tamer can say it and gets away with it. Every time. So now we cut over to Vicki talking to Hellgun. She's like, I guess what? I proposed to Steve twice. She was good luck with that one. Vicki, what are you doing? You're so pathetic, stopping so pathetic. She's like, yeah, good luck,

good luck. Maybe I'm okay, buried. How about that that Steve? Maybe I'm gonna be the one who says no, I'm not gonna marry Steve She goes, uh-huh dot cool happen How does like I hope that happens? You know she's not falling for it at all. Yeah, and make you said today we decided that To get maybe married you said I said like maybe we'll be decided we're gonna have a country western wedding Even though he did say we'd marry. Well, I said we're gonna have a country. Have you seen my face? Look, it's about here. It's a little I guess like and what days these weddings like I don't know like maybe much next year. Okay, I'm busy

Yeah, look at my calendar hold on the never of the month of never of the year No, no, I'm sorry, so I I'm not giving her a German accent at all So then we also see Kelly. She's with her that guy and she's talking to Emily's mom Carolyn about Ohio And she's saying oh, Ohio. Oh, yeah, he's for his I call him. He's big dick daddy from Cincinnati right here That's all Vicky says in this episode she wants to be a hell and then she talks about this guy's dick like a million times Yeah, I'm not stop So now we go back to Gina and she's like I'm just trying to say that your friends are concerned for you We're concerned. That's all and you know what?

I'm a little sad that Tamra is not defending me right now like why would you ever expect Tamra? To ever defend you it's Tamra. She just wants to send you in Yeah, exactly Tamra did after Tamra was upset that you Tamra was upset that you went and spoke to Shannon and then Shannon got mad at you and she was like I just don't like that you went and spoke to Shannon Well then you had a conversation with Tamra and the very first I just don't like that you went and spoke to Shannon. Well, then you had a conversation with Tamara and the very first thing that she did,

that she went right back to Shannon and told Shannon what happened. And then she put it under the guise of like, I just want to start things out. So it's like hypocrisy everywhere. That's her name, that's Shannon Bunch. Let me tell you about that. So Gina does this thing where she's like on the defense right now because she's, you

know, being fented. And she's wearing this like fur black collar, which makes it funny. But she starts doing that thing where she's like sucking her tongue, looking her lips a lot. Which is really disturbing. I just had to point that out. It was. So then Emily is talking to Kelly and she's like, well, I guess we should try and get a resolution

since it's the season finale. And Shannon's only going to be here for five minutes. Let's go over there. Yeah. So they go over and you think that you would think that Gina is going to be helped out by Emily. But no, because Gina's finally getting Shannon calmed down. And she's like, look, I just want something cordially nice.

Nothing bad will ever come out of my mouth again. And Tamara goes, yeah, I'm not coming down to make it better. You can stop talking, Tamara. You can't just stop. Yeah. So now it's the part, so we're cutting around. Well, yeah, so now it's sandy. Well, Sandy wants to touch up.

She's like, I really want to touch up and Vicky's like, well, you know, like I said, like I'm done. I'm done. Like I'm out. I'm out. No more touch ups. I'm just going to exercise more. I'm going to exercise. So I'm doing this thing. It's called the bird diet. And basically what you do is you just like fly into windows. And like, apparently, like you lose a bunch of calories doing that. Linda says it's not all the time, but it works.

I mean, there are like the birds around my neighborhood, like our less in weight in weight value right now. Yeah, they're actually like very inshate birds, so I think I'm just gonna like fly at windows and just like crash into them and see what happens. Why doesn't Linda ever get a finale party? That, that's who I want. Well, somebody's gonna run the office, Vic.

I mean, what's the point of, we're gonna go to a party and these people's life insurance pals is gonna write themselves now. I gotta write them it all good Oh I thought there was a gunshot it was not the bed okay okay oh so let's see back with Kelly what did she say what kind of oh Kelly sitting down to join the girls and she still she still got her desperately seeking Carmen San Diego out the dawn she's like what kind of share this is whoo

she's like thumbs down into it so Shannon is doing the pointing finger and she's like I have got to tell you guys I drank too much and I'm sick of hearing about it I'm working so hard and then people keep saying are you okay are you okay like you've got like six how saying, are you okay? Are you okay? Like you've got like six, how many ladies are there? Five people around you, telling you you're not okay. No point you just say, okay, you win. Yeah, exactly, she's like, listen,

I drank a lot that night and I'm working so hard. I'm being non-reactive. I'm trying to be like a glass bowl in the microwave, non-reactive, Whatever you want in me. I'm not gonna react. Ha! Look at me. Not even reacting.

And I'm making so many improvements in that area. I mean, look at me. Not reacting to what Tamer says. Someone said about me and other time. Not reacting at all. Ha! Ow! Change just through a biscuit in my head

and I'm not even gonna react to that And Kelly's like oh I said was I don't want you to have a stroke She's like I'm not going to Kelly and Emily goes listen can I say something? Oh well we haven't even discussed You You make it. And you. And you. And it's like, I have not ever maybe diagnosed it. How about that? It's not what I've been told, but the same could be said about you. I'm only in. Emily's just sitting there all calmly and shannin's in a smidic already.

Yeah. And not reactive. You, you, and you, not what's butt twice threatened to kill. Kill me. On the machine. On the machine on the machine Rose Should I be concerned about your mental capacity should I? Sam Lee's just like okay this crazy bitch. She's like you know what I'm gonna do I'm just gonna reach my hand out across the little gap between us and a few different ways until it seems like I'm being very

empathetic she's like you know what who's never my intention to hurt you or to like upset you and for that If you feel that way I apologize and I also would like to add and she's like she's good. She's good. She's good Um, I got this. I'm cool. I'm then reactive. I'm a rock and roller in a cow costume. Okay, continue So you know, I'm just trying to help Shannon. She doesn't even know that I'm trying to help her. Actually, you're going against your best friend on the show for no reason to try and like get to kiss Shanice. Ask, why are you doing that? You're losing points. You're into. You had a lot of points so far.

Like, well, she's, she's interrupting for nothing. Like now you're going to, now you're going to be on, uh, Shan inside for saying that Ebony was really trying to kill her. I mean, come on, come on guys. Yeah, exactly. And once again, we should point out the whole reason why Shannon is in a snit about Emily is because Tamara told her something and of course now Shannon has gone bonkers because of it.

So once again, Tamara just skates on through. Yeah, there we go, that's how she goes. But Shannon's like, well, do I believe her apology? No. But there we go that's how she goes but Shannon's like well do I believe for apology? No I've got to go to Brett Michaels. Oh yeah. So then she just like up and disappears and Vicki comes through and they're like oh wow Vicki you look good and Gina's like oh wow Vicki you got rid of your gobble wobble and she's like I didn't know how to gobble wobble. Uh huh. Would you mad me next time? I don't know how to gobble wobble. Uh-huh. Would you mind me next time? I don't know what that is, but whatever that is,

you should call me, you told me I had a gobble wobble, whatever, whatever. What's a gobble wobble? Just reach me at Vicky at getajob.com. So they're all just sitting there staring at each other. And Tamer's like, I think that went well, right? That's how I feel. Like, oh my god.

And Gina goes, oh, yeah, Tamer, she tells she's like, oh, yeah, Tim, that went awesome. That no one ever did. So then Shannon comes out and she's in her, Michael's garb. So she's in her leather jacket with a bandana around her head. And I just hope she's not actually going to wear that look to the concert. Because if she does, that's very sad. That's very sad. That's her outfit for the rock and roll party.

She went dressed as him. She went dressed as him. So she's wearing that outfit again, except without the goatee. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, that's the one where they went to the drag. Yeah, they went to the grave. The grave of a grammar is.

Yeah, the grave of a grammar easy. And then a Lydia comes in, she's like, do do do do do this right now? Guys, we're looking back with love on the Lydia season, okay? That's where we're at at the season. I always feel like Lydia was underrated and she got stuck on a shitty season and like she, they made her look like a real, they made her look terrible,

but I think Lydia was a good cast member and she just, she got stuck on the Peggy season, you know, like, what can you do? I'm just gonna have a nacho. Yeah. You'd like to do that? So yeah, great. So then, now it's the end of the episode, so we get the updates, which is that. Shannon has lost over 25 pounds, and is 10 pounds away from her goldweed.

Ha! So happy! And for now, she is fine with all she being the man in the house! Ha! Ha! Don't be a slave at all! Ha! David! No words yet on whether she's bought her daughter a new iPhone screen card! And then, uh, Tamra said,

you know what? That's a nice thing! Look, Tamra, just dumps acid on everybody again. And she's like, what's that? That's amazing. Look, camera. Just dumps acid on everybody again. And she's like, what's that? That's fun. And then I didn't even write down. Gita is crazy. Gina is in the process of finalizing her divorce,

which means no more sex with Matt, at least for now, unless he comes over to the casita because they've got a casita. And it's like a really good living arrangement. And it makes it easier for the kids. And I don't know. It's just been like 11 years they haven't had a conceited before, but now that we got a conceited,

it's just like text just going off the screen. She's better, I don't see. There's a lot of fork away, but she calls. So then Vicki and Steve, she's like, Steve, I just wanted you to know how much I appreciate it. How about you've done for me over the past two weeks? And he's like, well, that's been interesting, Rick. God, all the shit I've had to clean up around. So, well, that's been interesting, Rick. All the shit I've

had to clean up around. So, well, we both have been buried before. So, what all of us, what's thinking, all about our fresh problems? And we should talk about them. Yeah, maybe we should go to pre-baradol, Capsulee. He's like, as long as you give me dessert. Oh, Steve, that's hilarious. He really wants an acclare. Yeah. She doesn't even want something as interesting as that. He's like one of the shaker curbs of them. Yeah. And she goes, I'm so happy.

She goes, I'm so happy, Steve, because don't fuck it up. Oh, I'm talking to him to another abusive relationship for all of it. Another emotionally abusive relationship for Needy Vic. Yeah. Vicky and Steve have not yet gone to prematil counseling. And Vicky is still waiting for our ring. Okay. Okay.

Vicky is still saying to say waiting to say it. Woohoo. I do. I do. So Kelly is like, um, hey! Uh, you guys are from the same county! What is she saying, PhD? Papa Hasdoz? Well, she's talking about Tarage and like, like Papa Hasdoz? Well, she's talking about Tarage, and like, like Papa Hasdoz,

and then she says about this guy. She's like, oh, he has a PhD too. Pretty huge dick. Hey, you're a dork. So she has been hooked up through Shannon. That's her ending. Yeah, she's keeping her bench full just in case. And then Emily is like, I'm really proud of my mom for making her 360. I'm like, that means she's in the same place as she was. And her mom goes, nobody loves you like your

children, huh? And I was like, oh, God, this poor thing is going to have to watch this season. Yeah. So the update on Emily is, Emily wants another daughter, but Shane does not. She paid the embryo towards fees for 2019 and Casey changes his mind. And he won't just sitting on the stairs like no. And Tim was like, this has been one of the hottest years of my life. I almost lost my husband. I'm good. They discontinued my favorite lane cuisine. I ended up getting this piece of furniture built into my kitchen. It's like a booth on the countertop, but then when I cleaned the dishes, it keeps filling another bath.

I'm living again. This is hard, it's hard, it's axe. Eddie has on three different occasions, ordered me a Greek salad, when I asked for a Caesar salad. Hodya, Hodya. And your end thing is like, Tamarind Eddie, you're buying a new house. Yeah, they moved into,

they sold their home and are moving into a gated community, and no need for a housewarming party since their new neighbors are Vicki and Gina Yikes, which I'm like you're moving again. I mean if they're flipping the house, that's fine But like don't I it's just my I hate that don't make us watch Scenes of oh my god renovations. This is crazy other renovations and then you move They're probably moving because it's one of those things with temperate like I just feel like this house has lots of bad energy So we have to get a somewhat better energy. Let's on to a biggie good energy with biggie yeah how

do you think the house feels yeah the house is like it feels like it's gonna be exercise yeah the house is just the door how he's like this group of girls whoa we give a hundred percent which I don't even know that she knows what she's saying right now and then big thinking goes it's about here's what fetch it's, it's about, here's what Fetch is about. It's about big, transparent and one more skin procedure and that literally will be. That's life I'd also. Yeah, and that was the end of the adventure, right?

So the reunion is on Sunday night. And then I don't know, I guess I wonder if part two will be on Monday. I'm not sure probably. I don't think so. I think Sunday is a reunion then they're Gonna have it on the next Sunday to because Monday Guess what wait is Monday?

Phantom rule something else is on day Monday. It's just Monday That's weird. Well, who would you have a Monday on a Monday? Weird, oh that's the end of this. Yeah, so we'll be back tomorrow with Below Deck. Can't wait for that. And everyone have a wonderful Tuesday, and we'll talk to the Mannyana. Bye, everyone.

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