Watch What Crappens - RHOC: Let's Make a Dealer

Episode Date: January 22, 2021

**Also avail as video on Crappens On Demand http://bit.ly/crappensvideo** Real Housewives of Orange County hits us with its first reunion and it's a doozy. Braunwynn is accused of trying to h...ook up Shannon's kid with drugs, Kelly is called out for her social media stuff, and Emily still has a new hip. This week's bonus is a look at the Netflix shows Bling Empire and Emily in Paris. Find it at https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens*We're doing a 12 part series on Stitcher Premium called Dwell Hello all about HGTV's House Hunters. Sign up to Stitcher Premium at https://www.stitcher.com/premium using discount code CRAPPENS.**We designed lots of new face masks for Bravo lovers available at crappensmerch.com A portion of sales go to MedShare!Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:52 light, beautiful head Mr. Ben Mandelker. Ben, nice. Hi. The Real Housewives of YouTube. The Real Housewives of Kitchen Island, which you can find on YouTube. And he also does a podcast called Game Brain, which you can find anywhere you download your podcast. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Okay. Um, today is the crappy awards. We are so excited. We're doing that after this. We're going to do this and I'm going to maybe shave, although I'm kind of digging my gray beard. Yeah. Oh, digging myself right now on the camera. We're going to do that. So if you want to come,
Starting point is 00:01:26 come. It's right now, probably. And you can still watch it for a couple of days after. So go get tickets. And thanks for everybody who did get tickets. It's going to be an amazing show. And today, we are here. Oh, you do that at WatchupCrapins.com, by the way, to get tickets and stuff. Yeah. Also, today we are here with the Real Housewives of Orange County, reunion part one. And what a day. Well, what a day. That's good. It was a good reunion.
Starting point is 00:01:54 You know, it's only a two-parter. So we don't have any of the fluff. We don't have the silliness. Just like, boom, let's cover all the topics. Yeah, so let's just jump right into it, shall we? Would you have anything to say about your day or any, you know, pre-chatter? No, no pre-chatter. I'm ready to, I'm ready to go into the pre-reunion chatter, which is the ladies arriving at the reunion and Shannon, we just see Shannon go,
Starting point is 00:02:18 what? I broke the director's chair. I'm totally fine with that. It's funny. It's funny that I broke the director's chair. I am not making that a Reflection about myself or what's happened to me in credit virus Salmon is salmon is in a 60s the 60s white outfit. She's kind of like I don't know like a go-go girl She's very like laughing for any of you old people out there used to watch. I don't know. They read a little bit to me, like, Heather's pining her ancestors on the top and then, you know, laughing on the bottom. It was a
Starting point is 00:02:56 little bit of a strange look for me. Yeah, it was a strange look for Shannon. That's for sure. It was just like all the way up to her neck. It was just, didn't, was not, to me, it was not maybe a success. The looks on this, you know, between Shaman and then you've got Bronwyn over there who described her look as like a Lara Croft, like Blondam Bition kind of thing. Listen, I love Lara Croft. I play me some Tomb Raider.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I've always played Tomb Raider, love it. You look like Lara Croft, like the 30 times that I get smashed by the boulder before I finally make it across the track. Okay. It's not a good look. She looks crazy. I know she definitely gave me like late 90s,
Starting point is 00:03:34 early odds back up the answer in a video, kind of a log. Yeah. I was like, I don't know what that is really. And she can't nervously yanking her ponytail. You know, whenever she gets called out, she starts doing the yanking on her ponytail thing. So it was a good prop. But we see clips of the reunion,
Starting point is 00:03:52 which I guess we don't need to go into since we're about to recap them. We see some clips and then Bronwyn isn't like. Oh, what? Yeah, that's the best crazy clip. And that's how the reunion ends what are you talking about? Kelly, yeah, Kelly dole is all so Yeah, so all sorts of screaming we also see
Starting point is 00:04:15 Bronwyn strutting around in the parking lot with her look and then Kelly just watching so angry But she's so full of herself. Yeah, she is look at her. Just look at her there Narcissism She's so full of herself. She's so full of herself. Yeah, she is. Look at her. Just look at her there. The narcissism, that. Narcissism. Ah, go. Here you go. So then we get into the actual reunion. And Andy's greeting everyone like, hi, Kelly.
Starting point is 00:04:41 And Kelly now goes by Kelly Levinthal now. She's no longer Kelly Dodge. She's Kelly Levin fall. We learned that Yeah, way to give it up to some man Stupid you should Yeah, give it up to some Fox Reporter you should have kept your name Kelly. Dodd is cute Kelly Levin thought was not cute. Oh Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you have those dorms. You're giving me a 60s ride there. You're going to go go go, damn thing. Well, you know, the 60s are my favorite era. And by 60, I mean, that is the number of negative thoughts
Starting point is 00:05:20 I'd like to have on a given day. 60. Thank you. Gina, I feel like you figured out your hair, which is really what I totally did. I totally figured it out. I figured out my hair. I was just like gather a good Bob and I did. And then Emily, you look fantastic. What's the difference? What's the difference there? And she's like, well, um, Andy, I got
Starting point is 00:05:42 in better shape. I lost some weight. God implants up And brawn win. What are you going for with your look? And she's like, I'm totally rocking a Lara Croft Tomb Raider lesbian chic And I'm owning it. Did I mention a lesbian now? I'm a lesbian. I'm a lesbian mother And loads of this like I'm nervous saying, I'm nervous for my part freeing. And she's like, oh, yeah, it's your first time you gotta see Bill. You're been a buck on your seat belt. And I was like, why are you driving? So, hey, we're at the Wilshire Ebell Theater in LA.
Starting point is 00:06:22 This is stage at hosted Judy Garland, Dolly Parton, Michelle Obama, and Dr. Jill Biden. And now we're ruining it with the real house odds of Orange County. What an odd thing to put in there. This dinner is at Judy, Dolly. Also some wives and brothers, Michelle Obama and Jill Biden. It's like, you know, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah, you're, you're denigrating it even further with that, you know. We've had Michelle Obama here. And now a woman who pioneered cream cheese and salmon, Shannon Bedouard. Oh, so yeah, and Bronwyn was like, yeah, we're on the stage with that. And he's like, well, last season Gina called Bronwyn self-involved. So this season Bronwyn hurled insults and glasses at Lemonade Boys. And so we go into that whole montage of Gina versus Bronwyn. Could they ever be friends?
Starting point is 00:07:19 And then Andy, when we came out of the segment, Andy switched it up. Instead of saying, wow, a lot to unpack here. He said, wow, lots to digest here. I was like, okay, that's a very fun twist. That's a nice thing. Someone took a note. Someone took a note over there. He's like, I just stayed back in the lab.
Starting point is 00:07:37 I'm gonna say digest now. But then he did add in another housewives trope. He's like, let's discuss the elephant in the room. Um, what? How was your sad small house, Gina? And she's like, Oh, come on. I love my home. Literally. And I think everyone else here does too. And they're like, yes. You know, while they like pass around a hat with putting dollars in it to hand to Gina. And hey, did Broin see the house herself? And Bronwyn's like, no, but I did hear about it from Shannon and Shannon. Well, so fucking unbelievable, unbelievable, unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:08:15 This is a big reunion for Shannon's face. I mean, Shannon's face like a sock puppet. Huh? So, Judy from Judy Towne says, Shannon, when you were touring Gina's house, you look like you were faking a smile the whole time, you kept saying nice over and over again. Did you really think it was nice or did you just not know what to say? I listen, I looked around, I thought, look how darling it is, that she has a bunk bed in the kitchen, that's darling, that's so darling. Well, so you pay to your children in the garage, that is, oh, that's adorable, that's great.
Starting point is 00:09:01 I told John Janssen, I said, I am so proud that she's a freaking owner. I mean, we just rent. And she's an owner. And you know, you have to make sacrifices when you own. For instance, you have to put some children in the bathroom for their bedroom. That's just a sacrifice.
Starting point is 00:09:16 And I'm so proud of her. I'm so proud. I am so proud. Now, was it the first time that I had seen a giant Folters Camping used as a poop pot? Yes, it is. You're So, you know what, no, Brian, when you're good at deflection,
Starting point is 00:09:34 you're good at deflection, Brian, when? So, yeah, so then she's so she keeps talking and she's and she even says that when she went over to Brian's house To make amends with Kelly at the beginning of the season that Bronwyn on and on and on asking why why Gina's even on the show Yeah, Bronwyn was like I did not and Emily says I don't fucking lie and neither does Kelly And I was like, oh hey, I'm in on that too. I'm included them on that too. Emily by the way. I am not a liar I'm in on that too. I'm included them on that too. Emily by the way, I am not a liar. And Emily said, I didn't say you are. She's like, well, you said that you and Kelly weren't
Starting point is 00:10:09 liars, but you did not include me in that. She's like, uh, wasn't about you, Shannon. Okay. So then Kelly jumps in. She's like, I don't lie. I don't lie. I don't lie. I don't lie. Okay, Gina. The text you got from Sean wasn't exactly NC 17. Why did you think he was coming on to you? Like because it did kind of seem like he was coming on to her. Why are you acting like it was so crazy? And Gina's like, well, it wasn't just based on the text, you know, I know that that was the love shack where all the stuff goes, Danie and D. Can I say something? I'm doing some windshield wipers, which indicate that I have that that was the love shack where all the stuff goes there, N.D. Can I say something? I'm doing some windshield wipers which indicate that I have things to say.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I was there the night that it all happened. I was in the room that it happened, the room that it happened, the room that it happened, okay, and Sean had to walk you out of the restaurant because you had drank too much, and I said you're not going to take this shot. You're not going to take this shot and you took the shot. Okay. And I think that he sent you the text because he was concerned that you were hammered. And you know, Shanna's just getting that in there. Not to really stick up for Brahmin because she hates bitch, but she's just saying that so she can point out that other people are drunk too before it gets to the Shannon alcoholism
Starting point is 00:11:22 sexism, you know, and that she's a good friend. Yes. So Gina's like well I think that now but he was texting me from that apartment that apartment telling me his wife is you know You know and Andy Custon he's like well, you know brown. Would you have said that you brought other women in? It's just like yeah, but when it comes to three thumbs, it was never Sean inviting people. And that was me. Okay. Today, I would like to proudly come out as a lesbian. And I'm a proud lesbian woman. Brahman is basically like everyone at my performing arts sleep way camp that I went to when I was for a game. Let's just face it. Like when you already came out as a lesbian this year and kind of last year when you said
Starting point is 00:12:08 you preferred women over men on national television. She's like, thank you, Andy. I'm proud to leave the movement, Andy. I am a lesbian. Thank you. I am a lesbian and just to prove it, I would like to perform on my own for the variety show. Thank you. On my own. it's like,
Starting point is 00:12:25 Brian, when you're not a Ben Summer Camp Variety Show, stop it. So I got this. I at your summer camp, because you know, that was me to try. I'm like, I will be singing the Norma Desmond, 11 o'clock number from sunset Boulevard. And they're a quanny really. That's what it was like, honestly it was the variety show it was like a very long evening of Tween Girls singing laym is for hours and hours and then you have like a random You haven't lived until you've seen like three 12 year old girls get on stage together and go
Starting point is 00:13:08 You're like So Emily you seem to be playing both sides with Gina and Bronwyn. What about that? She's like well, it wasn't a really difficult position Andy You know, I was asked not to say anything, but I grew up poor. And so when Bronwyn makes comments like social economic comments like her condo small, that goes to my core Andy. It's like, okay, so now you're gonna cry on the I was poor one time. Come on! This was hilarious of Emily. And it's like, I think I've been waiting for Emily to have a really ridiculous melodramatic moment because she's like I didn't grow up with money so when you make fun of another woman because she doesn't live in a big enough house
Starting point is 00:13:52 I'm pissed Oh, I don't know Well, you know she's saying that because she was getting a lot of pushback from people when she's like It doesn't matter if you live in a mansion. This was still really hard and people are like how dare you! So now she's like I was poor one night, Mandy! I'm gonna cry about it right now! And guess what? Some people are still poor. And it's okay! It's okay! You don't have to solve about it, okay? Yeah. Geez. So then so brawman's well, I was lashing out, you know, and you know, I was, you know, and like deflecting and I was angry and da da da da da, but then, you know, but Gina has actually been really wonderful.
Starting point is 00:14:33 She starts praising Gina and then Shannon's looking away like, huh, I guess I'm not wonderful. I guess I'm just the lying Shannon Mdolore over here, just not being wonderful. Yeah. I will do some chill fighters. So show how unwonderful I am. Bronwyn is doing the thing where she's just like horrible. And then every time she's called out, she goes, oh, well, do you know what, I'm sorry I was wrong. I was wrong, which is supposed to negate everything
Starting point is 00:14:56 that she did. And it makes me fucking crazy when people do that. And she does it on every single thing. And so I'm glad that they don't let her get away with it at all during the reunion. Because she's like, you know what, I was lashing out. You're a great mother. You totally did not deserve that. I was a horrible person when I did that. Absolutely terrible and I apologize. And Kelly's like, yeah, and she goes, yeah, it's all I can believe you
Starting point is 00:15:17 stand for women when that's how you classify them. And she's, yeah, well, you know, I get that. I get that. You're right. And they just keep going at it. Like, yeah, you do suck. You do suck. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And then, and Shannon has heard, like, ace in the hole for her legal argument. She's like, I just want to say that I never said
Starting point is 00:15:35 that her house was sad of depressing. And first of all, you said sad or depressing. You couldn't even remember, was it sad or depressing? I was like, good one, Shannon. Yeah, it's a really strong case. And from what it's like, I'm depressing. I understand that that's a really big deal for you, Shannon. She's like, no, do you know that I could have
Starting point is 00:15:54 questioned Sprung went because you put the fucking lies in my mouth and I'm not gonna bend over and say it because I didn't. And she's like, well, I'm not gonna bend over and say that you didn't say it because that's what I remember. Yeah. Well, it's, it's bullshit that you think that you're sober and that your mind is clear. That's what I say.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And then she's like, well, Sean was there too. And well, Kelly, well, Sean was a fendin' amount of, whoa. Yeah, he's an enabler. You've already said he's an enabler. Yeah, you know what? He's in cahoots. He's in cahoots. He's in cahoots. Somewhere Heather, Heather Ray Young from Selling Sunset
Starting point is 00:16:29 was like, is that a word? Cahoot. Cahoot. So Gina's like, you know what? I can tell you what I believe. When Shannon was in my home, she was very happy and very supportive, okay? And Andy's like, all right, anyway.
Starting point is 00:16:46 So Gina and Bronwyn, Gina and Bronwyn, Bronwyn was like, well, she basically said, you know, we're still trying to be friends. I mean, here's what Gina said to me. She sent me a text and she basically said, I still think you're an asshole, but I'll be there for you if you need me. So you know what, I'm gonna be there for that girl,
Starting point is 00:17:03 no matter what. And Andy's like, what about you, Gina? And she's like, no, we don't have a relationship. It's someone sided with her. Could you? And Brawman's like, thank you. Thank you. So now is the Shannon and John segment. So we have this whole, um, this whole video package where we see like their, their life in the past over the past season, et cetera. And it's sort of as funny seeing it all together. It makes me realize that there's so much
Starting point is 00:17:31 that we are not privy to, because things just sort of happen. And it's like, if you really think about it, it's like something is wrong here. Like when she's like, well, you know, I don't know if it was in this segment or the COVID segment, I don't know, but where she's like, well, you know, I don't know if it was in this segment or the COVID segment, I don't know, but where she's like, well, you know, I said,
Starting point is 00:17:48 Joe, you can't leave the house, if you're gonna be in this house, you can't leave the house and these are the rules and then he left the house and then John left the house too. And yeah, and there are things we're said. I'm like, you know, there was, it wasn't just like, oh, he just left the house. You know, there was some shit brewing
Starting point is 00:18:02 under the surface with these two. The Shannon, you know, Shannon just goes fucking crazy on people. And we've seen it. We've seen it. But I think that kind of a lot of that stuff out of Shannon's, like, I don't know to protect her, or if they're just like, this is way too much, even for Bravo,
Starting point is 00:18:15 you know, but we've seen her go freaking crazy before. Remember when she, in these last couple episodes, when she went to John and she's like, well, yeah, I'm kind of awkward because, you know, we fought and I said, shut the fuck up. And then get the fuck out of my house and, you know, that was bad and he's like, who cares? You want to drink?
Starting point is 00:18:35 Whatever. But Shannon was acting so terrible between her legs. Yeah, it must have been really bad. Yeah. And the way she would carry on about how she was so nervous about the relationship, but we didn't really see any indication that anything was wrong makes you realize some shit happened I think it's warranty that got real dark. Yeah, so Andy's like well, oh, and he goes well, how is John? How long have you been together now and Shannon's like well last week
Starting point is 00:18:59 It was a year and a half exactly exactly. I'm not that I'm counting now It's a year and a half and. It's not that I'm counting. Now it's a year and a half and three days and seven hours and two minutes and 42, three, four seconds and a jack counting. My jammin'. Well, we've been together 18 months, although I don't know if we've quite hit 18 months if we deduct the three weeks that John wasn't talking to me
Starting point is 00:19:26 because he wore his boots inside the plier during coronavirus that was totally unacceptable. Well, Sophie said she was worried because he couldn't take care of you financially or emotionally. Uh, what do you think of that? She's like, well, you know, Sophie is very opinionated and no longer has home made or home made organic beds at college. So, Sophie's been sleeping on the floor and listen, you know, look, it was during coronavirus, it was very difficult. And David, the X won't even communicate with me or co-parent. I haven't met his new girl. He is not met mine. It is very heart-a-dandy! I'm Shannon! I'm Shannon! I mean, have I clashed with John's kids? Yes. Has he clashed with mine? Yes. Do I give out organic headboards to my favorite of the stepchildren? Of course!
Starting point is 00:20:23 But we're happy. We're happy, happy family. And he's like, well, how did the kids feel about their step-sickling siblings? And she's like, oh, it can be awkward, Andy. And Brauma goes, yeah, Andy, basically, it's just a big cliche, Andy. And she goes, oh, yeah, it's painfully a cliche. Like what you have spent it to you.
Starting point is 00:20:42 And Shannon's like, yeah, because I think Andy was actually asking about the fact that David's having a new baby. And that's what that's what was the cliche was about, not the stepkids. And yeah, I don't think that Shannon was totally
Starting point is 00:20:56 realized you was looking like cliche orange County. Yeah, story lives. It leaves you for a younger you know, skinny blonde lady cuts you off, tries to cut your money out. You know, like the, as a baby with their, and they're like, oh yeah, this is a cliche. And she was so mad, her side, I was so funny.
Starting point is 00:21:12 And Shannon. So, just, Gina, do you think that the drinking causes problems and Shannon's relationships is absolutely, and then Shannon's like, well, you know what? When I called you about John I didn't I didn't really have a lot of friends to call I mean who was in my life? I mean I get there's you there's Emily there's a cardboard cut out of tamar from when we were friends that I call sometimes There is my pillow guy sometimes I'll call him
Starting point is 00:21:41 Mrs. Moon. I mean Mrs. Moon, but's very very busy and she's like but I did call you we had a conversation you call me completely let out you know I don't even know the extent of the things you I don't even know if you know the extent of the things you said she and I said well I was with John every day and I didn't know whether I was gonna see him again. I didn't know I didn't know whether I was ever gonna see him again. She's seeing where she puts her fingers in the middle of her eyeballs and then just started pushing her eyeballs. I mean, I didn't know whether one of us was gonna get sick and it was just absolutely tapestating. What do you do when you don't have a man to get your daily meat? What do you do? What do you do?
Starting point is 00:22:22 Why don't you just call me? And's like, you were alarming, okay? You were wasted. I mean, it was like my relationship. Which is a problem. Everyone's projecting their own relationships onto each other. Do you know what I'm gonna be used to relationship? Cause I was in an abusive relationship, you know? And so she's like, it's my relationship.
Starting point is 00:22:39 And your stuff comes from the past and then it gets worse, you know? And so I see that happening with you. And Shannon's like, oh, okay, man, it's holier than that with a studio apartment. And she's like, no, I'm not being holier than that. You know, I'm just saying like, what is an appropriate response to someone
Starting point is 00:22:54 with their being hysterical, you know? Yeah. And Emily's like, well, you know, when you drink and then call, we do get concerned, you know, concerned for you, you know, which I just think it's funny we do get concerned, you know, concern for you, you know, which I just think it's funny that now we're going on to like several seasons of this thing where Shannon gets drunk and just like bothers her friends and says something and then denies that she has any problem.
Starting point is 00:23:18 So then Andy asked Bronwyn why she said that John had some sort of problem with booze and Bronwyn's like, well, you know, I had some sort of problem with booze and brawman's like, well, you know, I had a conversation with Shannon at her house and she pulled me aside and she told me some things that hit close to home for, you know, how I was at the end of when I quit drinking. Projection. John hates golf.
Starting point is 00:23:37 John hates golf. He hasn't played golf. He hasn't, he hasn't seen his father in 30 years. His father's an actual golf ball. They actually went to Epcot and he said that is your grandfather. And John hates it. He hates it. From what's like, well, listen, I'd heard some things.
Starting point is 00:23:52 And Shannon's like, well, then just call me. And she goes, well, you had me cut out Shannon. So I couldn't call you because you cut me out. And Shannon's like, well, you know what? You want to talk about John Jansen. John Jansen, who has a company called John Jansen, whose full number is 585, John Jansen, who has partners who are partners of John Jansen.
Starting point is 00:24:12 It is not good. He deserves his privacy. John Jansen. It's like, maybe he stops like blaring his name so much probably if he wanted to have a... I know. Last I checked, I felt like alcoholism is almost a prerequisite for men in business. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:28 So I mean, listen, I watched Mad Men. So Andy's like, well, we did invite John to come, but he chose not to come. He said something about a golf tournament and free vodka. So his dad's waiting outside to pick him up to go to a golf tournament. And John is like, well, he is a very private person. John Chan. Celebrity beef, you never know if you're just gonna end up on TMZ or trending on Twitter or in court. I'm Matt Bellasife. And I'm Sydney Battle.
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Starting point is 00:26:05 do you think Shannon has a problem with alcohol, and then Brahman, of course, is like, I'm gonna nod in a very big way to show that I took acting class at the forming arts camp, right? Now, yes, big. I am an alcoholic, and therefore, yes, my judgment is, I hate that. It's like, Ronnie, your gay, is that guy gay?
Starting point is 00:26:25 Like, how the fuck would I know is dick in in my mouth? Where are you asking me? That being said, Shannon definitely does not have maybe the healthiest of relationship with alcoholic. But listen, that's gonna be up for Shannon because that's, that's, I mean, it's like Shannon, Durinda, Ramona,
Starting point is 00:26:41 all these people, Luan, should they be drinking? Probably not. But as long as they're gonna be on TV and they're gonna be on denial, let them just stand denial until they hit their, hit their, their, the general rule is you don't get to tell someone they're in alcohol, like someone has to come to that conclusion and wanna make that change themselves.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Like no, you're not allowed to say like you're in alcohol, like so it's annoying being like, is she, does she have a problem with alcohol, local expert? And bromo's like, yes, Auntie, yes, I might go to school one day to teach people something about, I don't know, something about alcohol. It's gonna make me look really good on Instagram, Andy,
Starting point is 00:27:17 but yes, yes, I do. Yes, I do. And Shannon has the most like alcoholic response. I'm fun. I'm fun. I'm fun. I'm fun. I'm fun. I'm fun. I'm fun. I'm not no alcoholic. I'm fun.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I'm fun. I'm a life-themed party. I'm fun. It's me. She had a party, Shannon. I've never seen my boyfriend, Jen, and again, because I'm fun. She actually did this at one point where she was moving her fists around like she was holding
Starting point is 00:27:40 sparklers on the 4th of July. Look at me, I'm spelling fun with sparklers. I'm fun. I'm fun. with sparklers. I'm fine! So then we go on break and when we come back, Shannon is in her makeup chair and she's on the phone with John and she's like, well she you know it happened John, it happened John Chanson. We started getting into our issues and Brahmin is a flipping nightmare. She's walking around like she's in some music video.
Starting point is 00:28:08 She's naked under her dress. It's flipping weird. It's flipping weird. She's naked under those clothes. She's naked under those clothes. So, but then to be fair, Brahmin is like, how's my ass look? How's my ass look?
Starting point is 00:28:23 And Sean's like, well, I think it's hard for your ass to look bad. I'm like, okay, well, it's great that the spirit of Tamron Eddie are still here. Yeah, no kidding. Bath tub scene in three, two. So, Sean tells her, listen, Bronwyn is a sober alcoholic who wants to point fingers at everyone else calling them alcoholics.
Starting point is 00:28:41 And that's wrong of her. Baaah! Baaah! Baaah! Baaah! Hold on, I got it back. What else calling them alcoholics and that's wrong of her For hold on I got it back Hey get that girl got up. I'm standing here. Get that girl good out of the way and chairman tells him well You and I have talked about it, but if she keeps on with the sober stuff. I am bringing up the stellar issue. I am I am a stallion issue I am, I am. Which is the fact that I have not gone my delivery of Stelos for the day. So, Andy's, and we all know anyone who has internet
Starting point is 00:29:16 capabilities knows what the secret is already. And it's horrifying and also in a house-wise way, like amazing, like wow wow they really do keep topping themselves on housewives I have to say I know it's like a vaginal rejuvenation again or like cry out there it's like it's over and over and you're like they're never gonna be able to top themselves and it's like you offered my daughter coke and a party it's time for commercial it's time for a crap and commercial.
Starting point is 00:29:47 You offered my daughter Coke and a party. I actually had done a really good job of keeping bearing my head in the sand. I knew something came up and there was going to be some terrible thing, but I didn't really know what it was until I got like someone tweeted at me and someone else. And then they were like, I can't believe she offered her cocaine. I was like, okay, well, I guess it's like faux spoiled because it wasn't really a spoiler because it's like, who cares?
Starting point is 00:30:13 But I was like, oh, I wanted to surprise myself to find out what the clipping are. Yeah, and then Shannon, they threw us off the trail because someone wrote Ron Wynne in Instagram message and said, did you really do this? Did you really offer Stella Coke and Bronwyn wrote back? Well, I don't remember because I was drinking then, which is so enough already.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Okay, you don't just get a pass for everything in your life because you drank a lot one time, you know, or during a period. That's ridiculous. And she said, but. I love to run a real housewives of New York. Yeah, but you Unless you're on Real Housewives of New York. Yeah, but- You're gonna get a best.
Starting point is 00:30:46 You know, I heard from someone who I trust way more than Shant, and this isn't a quote, I'm not reading it, but she said, I heard from someone who was there that that's not how it happened, and I really trust this person. Like, whatever, since when don't you remember anything when you're drunk? You remembered everything that happened last year when you were drunk. You go over all of the drunk and fights you had arguments for the whole time. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:09 But then we were throwing off the trail because someone wrote to Shannon and said, oh my God, someone offered Sophie Coke and she said, no, no one ever offered Sophie Coke. So people then the rest of the week were like, then what is it? What is it? Well, it's still not fully articulated that it's Coke at least right now on the show, I should say right
Starting point is 00:31:27 She didn't offer her coke she offered her the number of a dealer Oh, it's different. Yeah, so well, we'll get to that so So now we have the COVID segment the official COVID segment and what's the first thing that you guys want to do once COVID has done and everyone's like travel travel travel, all going more than I will travel. Um, and then, uh, and they're talking Kelly's like, you're just like coughing. And it's just like, it's just like it happens to the rest of us in the real world when somebody costs everybody just stares at her like, done, done. And then they get back to normal and she costs again. They're like done done done done. And then someone someone sent in this question.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I I have to believe this came from a Russian bot because I cannot imagine a human would actually take the time to like think this and then write it, which is quarantining at your house seemed to fun Emily. I was like, oh, did it? Hey, what was the biggest fight you in Shane had? So then Emily was like, well, um, I mean, it was like something about me and my parenting that he made, he made, he said something about my parenting in front of the kids and I freaking lost it. I slammed every door in the house and got in the car and drove away, but there was nowhere to turn.
Starting point is 00:32:41 So I, so I, so I just just turned back. So and then you got so mad that he made fun of your parenting that you created an hysterical, slammed every door, made loud noises and probably frightened your children and then tried the best that you could to abandon them for the rest of their lives. Great job. I'm going to stare at Kelly again. So Kelly, it's me, you've Kelly, Kelly. We heard you say so many things about masks and Kelly, go on.
Starting point is 00:33:12 What is your stance on masks? I was like, well, I mean, I hate masks. But I guess everybody hates masks, you know? But I wear one because everyone has to, but like, do your pass, like help you protect you from afar? I don't know.? Like, help you protect you from afar? I don't know, do they? Do pants protect you from far? No, they're not.
Starting point is 00:33:29 And there you have it. The front line defense. Like, this is why you shouldn't wear a mask. Well, okay, how about this? Do pants protect you from afar? No, does that mean you don't wear pants? Yeah, is that how that works? And by the way, that's not how this...
Starting point is 00:33:44 I mean, just so everyone knows, the science of masks is not... That's not like the logic that works? And by the way, that's not how this, I mean, just so everyone knows, the science of masks is not, that's not like the logic that works for masks. Just so everyone knows, it's that the molecules get blocked on the fibers inside the mask, the mask of the mask of the design of certain sort of way.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Just like this. And just the same with fart. What if you have a wet fart or something and you're wearing pants, then your wet fart doesn't get on me. You see? So I did get protected by your pants with your fart. So thank you for answering that question, Dr. Slouchy, okay?
Starting point is 00:34:11 Kelly, try to, try to sharp without pants on and try to sharp with pants on and tell us what the difference is in your immediate surroundings. Like an absolute ding dong. So Bronwyn's like, oh, so he says, well, Bronwyn did an interview that you weren't taking COVID seriously. And Brahman was like, mm-hmm. She's like, big nod. I did it. Big nod. This is for you, Stella Adler. Big. I did it.
Starting point is 00:34:34 I am deep throat, Andy. I would like to come out of the closet. I am deep throat, Andy. I mean, I mean, I said some things that I regret, and I feel bad for it when he's lost loved ones. I mean, do I take it seriously? Yeah, but I was also frustrated. I mean, does a fart not have a right to get out of here? Sorry. And Andy's like, all right, and how many trips did you take in the first six weeks of the virus?
Starting point is 00:35:01 And I was like, well, listen, I went because I was reconstructing Rick's apartment. I was like, you guys were like organizing shit into Creighton Barrow boxes, Kelly, okay? Reconstructing Rick's apartment or Rick's apartment. And she's like, I was in my fiancee, getting business taking care of Eddie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Well, you're a behavior on the show and on social media, really outraged people, well, my fan base is building? Okay, I haven't lost any followers, okay? Cause you know what happens? You got a bunch of people farting. You know what you get? Windstorm, okay?
Starting point is 00:35:32 Kelly Dodd, Kelly Dodd, can we Dodd? Well, I mean, the amount of messages that I get that you're uneducated, putting out misinformation. She's like, whoa, what? What did I want businesses to open up? Texas and Florida are open. They're going fine. He's like, and that you're behaving like a moron.
Starting point is 00:35:51 What do you think about that one? It's like, wow. Wow. It's like, and then Kelly, she's like, well, I got them too. I get them that you're anti-American and that you put your political beliefs out there. They don't want to watch the show, political show.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And I first thought she was talking about like she got messages like that about herself and then it became evidently very evident that she was talking about people complaining about Andy to her. And so then this is the best. When Andy goes from like, hey, to being like, I will destroy you. He's like, I'm anti-American because I don't like Donald Trump. Okay. Okay. Yeah. She's like, I'm anti-American because I don't like Donald Trump. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Yeah, she's like, yeah, she's like, yeah, because for him, that's supposed to be like, ew, yeah, got you. She's like, yes, exactly. I could have turned on those messages. And he goes, okay, well, you said that COVID was a way of thinning the herd. And then this Instagram message comes up of Kelly saying, it's God's way of thinning the herd. I'm like, message comes up of Kelly saying, it's God's way of thinning the herd. It's like it literally says it's God's way to exclamation points. And then it cuts back to Kelly and she's like, well, I mean, I was asked that because old people were dying.
Starting point is 00:36:56 And I mean, it was a dumb thing to say about. I mean, I didn't I was I put into question. I was saying, is it God's way of thinning the herd? Is it God's way of thinning the herd? You were not asking a question. Also, old people dying is not God's way of thinning the herd. That old people dying are like that's part of the natural and unfortunate like cycle of life. Thinning the herd is when it's like, you know, young, young people with like a lot of life ahead of them.
Starting point is 00:37:22 That's thinning the herd. So we'd be like, yeah, old people dying. We're sitting there hurting. I'm like, no, not the hurt. That's not the hard that we're talking. That's not the part that the hurt we're concerned about, you know? Well, your mom ends up in ICU with COVID. She was, no, she ain't got her ICU for COVID.
Starting point is 00:37:35 She went there because her blood sugar was at a whack. And he's like so she was like, forwarding and it smells sweet. And I was like, aren't your fans protecting her sweet forks? Your sugar must be wrong. So she didn't got a nice view. Yes, she did, but she didn't have a respirator or anything. She didn't have any like symptoms. And he's like, okay, well, you know, I've heard so much negativity about you,
Starting point is 00:37:56 but it's not about you on the show. It's all about you on social media. And people were wanting to boycott the show. I mean, I haven't seen anything like it. And, you know, I've hired Lisa Rina, Brandy Glanville. I know we had Lee Adlachan on, Catherine Dennis, everything. Was there a time you thought, gosh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:38:18 I'm not gonna post this. And she's like, oh, she was like, no. Yeah. Didn't it give you pause? Like, don't you have a think, like, don't you have a think, like, ah, she was like, no. Yeah. Didn't it give you pause? Like, don't you ever think like, don't you ever think like, maybe you should pause and she's like, listen, if you're like shit, I feel horrible,
Starting point is 00:38:33 you're making it worse, I feel terrible, so. Yeah, she starts crying, which like, I guess I get that you're crying because it must her to have like millions of people saying, fuck you, lady. But also, you're crying because it must hurt to have like a million of people saying fuck you lady, but also You say it. It's like if you're gonna have the balls to say stuff like that and then stand behind it and then fight about it On social you don't get to cry now You know what I mean like I don't feel for you while you're fucking crying exactly now. She'd her cry So so Andy's like
Starting point is 00:39:03 But aren't you worried that you're gonna be on the wrong side of history? Aren't you worried that you're 100 years from now your tombstone is gonna say stupid face agreed on by America? Aren't you worried about that? She's like, so what do you want for me? Yeah, what do you want me to say? What do you want me to say now? So then she's like, I'm sorry for hurting people's feelings. That wasn't my intent. And Brahm was like, well, you have an amazing opportunity right now. Andy, I would like to come out of the closet as someone who will no longer put up with
Starting point is 00:39:36 Kelly Dodd denying COVID there. I'm leading the movement, Andy. Leading the movement. Although, I mean, Brahm would does have a point that this is like it's like, Kelly, this is your moment to say, you know what? I was wrong and I learned something, you know, and then she says that and goes, my dude! You know what? I'm a friend. They got their businesses, they're not coming back, they can't feed their kids, you know, like when their kids fart, they're pants fall off, it's just their rag tags.
Starting point is 00:40:02 People become young, the hallics, the divorces. People are killing themselves. You know? Like, okay, great. Now, Emily, let's talk about Shane. Yeah, it's like, yeah. So then we talk about Shane being sick from it and not calling her and her thinking he's dying. And she, he's like, did you talk to your kids
Starting point is 00:40:22 about the possibility that daddy might not come back? And she's like, no, you know, but I did think I might have to sell the house and move back to Ohio. I was like, why? I don't understand that. Doesn't he not work? Or I guess, I guess he does work right. She just not as a lawyer. I guess maybe she just didn't want a down size. And she'd rather just moved to Ohio than downsize in Orange County. I guess, but it's just interesting that she put that out there. No, it wasn't like your daddy's not coming back. It's like your daddy's not coming back and we're going to be poorer, which is horrible.
Starting point is 00:40:54 But yeah, that was actually really sad. I shouldn't talk about that. So Andy's like, well, you got a lot of support from Shannon. What did you see from Shannon? And she's like, oh, yes, she was very compassionate know not only for me and my family, but for saying you know, she called me every single day and for that I will always be grateful to that Beautiful alcoholic sitting over there across from me I refer to myself as the fun, but compassionate friend
Starting point is 00:41:21 so hey now it's time for an Elizabeth segment when we get to see all this stuff about Elizabeth and But compassionate friend. So hey, now it's time for an Elizabeth segment. We're gonna see all this stuff about Elizabeth. And, hey Elizabeth, so you're new. So what were your impressions of Gina and Shannon, the only two women he didn't know? And she's like, well, I was told that Gina would eat me alive. Okay, and Shannon too.
Starting point is 00:41:40 All right. And, and Shannon's like, but I'm fun. Why would I eat you, well, I will, Andy, I'll will. And she's like, that's not donating. God, I can't get off of that poor family waiting here. I'm still first on the list, there right, I already took my number. Yeah, by the way, she says the reason why she was afraid of Shannon is because people on Instagram were wanting her to be afraid of her. So then, which I think I might come back to one point,
Starting point is 00:42:18 but I'm not sure if I will, we'll see. So, hey, how's your sex life with Jimmy? And she's like, well, Jimmy's an introvert and... Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Hey, baby. Uh. Hey, baby. His family's a conservative Mexican family, Andy. But for you, for you to say that you're still in love with your ex-husband and you sent him the heart emoji, I mean, that's where I didn't understand it. And do you still love your ex-husband? Because I was like, good question Andy! And Andy goes, uh, thanks Kelly.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Yeah, thanks Kelly. Yeah, because basically, um, uh, Elizabeth is like, well, he's an introvert and then he was like mortified by the way everyone was like, you know, dogging me about like our sex life. And they're like, talking, we never watch, we never, we, what's us? It's like, you guys hounded a little bit about this and made fun of it and all your interviews, the entire season long. And I like us? No, we never did that. Yeah. So then she's like, well, I'll always love him. You know, like, he took me out of a bad place. We spent 20 years together. He really grounded me and gave me structure. And Kelly's like, yeah, I gave you experiences. And Bronwyn goes, well, I have a good friend who's friends
Starting point is 00:43:34 with him and his fiance and lose a bit of my ex, really? He has a fiance. Bronwyn really is. And Shannon's like, not a fun one over there. The not one one. And we're almost like, um, yeah, they've been together five years and with like, well, they're not engaged.
Starting point is 00:43:56 First of all, she was, uh-huh. They went traveling all over this summer and then they called me and he got on the phone and their story is very different from her story, Andy. Like you really are the lowest. Well, you really are fucking low. Oh my God, you're going to come on here and say, Oh, I'm so sorry for, you know, for everything I did to you, Elizabeth. By the way, got on the phone with your ex-husband. Here's the thing. here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:44:25 I mean, yes, yeah, for sure. Brahmin is totally being an asshole and being hypocritical. But I think all these women are being hypocritical in this situation because all these women have looked up shit on each other and they've all engaged in gossip. Kelly Lassie's and the whole thing with Kelly
Starting point is 00:44:41 was that Tamer and Shannon were mad at her because she called up Jim Bellino who they were in a court case with. So they all are kind of like bad about this. Where Bronwyn goes wrong is her delivery is terrible. She's like, well, I heard about, you know, she's like buried like, like kind of per se about it. So she loses people there.
Starting point is 00:44:59 And they also with her false apologies and her like, well, I'm really sorry, I'm going to work on this. And then meantime, you're, you know, like getting, getting sit on her to bring to the reunion from the ex-husband. Yeah, we're, we're bra one really. The thing is this, the one of the Cardinal sins you could commit on bravo is to be two faced or to be perceived as two faced. That is honestly, if you look at the amount of vitriol that was reserved for
Starting point is 00:45:25 Malia, for Captain Sandy, for what's her face on Southern Charm, landing, people like that. If you sort of look at the larbs scheme of the terrible things that people have done in their lives or in the world or on Bravo. Like they haven't really been like horrific, like land in and invite Catherine to a party once, but people can't stand her because she's like two faced. And that two faced thing is like too real for all of us. And that's where Braumwin is really, that's where she is getting tripped up
Starting point is 00:45:59 because everything she's doing is coming off as super two faced. And so it doesn't matter if Shannon has looked up shit on other people because she clearly has, by the way. She even said earlier in this episode, like, well, I, you know, like, I mean, Shannon's talking behind people's back as much as everyone else, but, but Bronwyn's the one coming up as two-face
Starting point is 00:46:18 and she's never gonna win this one. Yeah, and they're all mad at Bronwyn and yelling at her and stuff. And my captions just say crosstalk Even the captain writer was like fuck this like they put their hands in the air and so Elizabeth is like well You can defend him. Oh you walk and apparently your friends with my axe and problem is like, uh-uh My friend is I mean what do you want they called me when I was with her? It was just a coincidence See by the way, I love, like, I love a messy, a messy housewife who does call and get the
Starting point is 00:46:50 information. Like, I love when Ramona does that. Ramona does that shit all the time. Oh, I heard that. Leah. Leah, she's bipolar and schizophrenic and also borderline personality state and all that stuff. And she just does it and you're like,
Starting point is 00:47:05 you're awful and hilarious, you know? But, you know, I just think that Braumann is just not doing it the right way. So Elizabeth's like, well, I feel sorry for his new girlfriend because then Braumann cuts in and she goes, um, his fiance. And they're like, come on! And she goes, why do you have to correct it?
Starting point is 00:47:23 And she goes, because they've been together five years, did you guys not hear that part? And Elizabeth goes, why do you have to correct it? And she goes, because they've been together five years. Did you guys not hear that part? And Elizabeth goes, you are mean. And Bronwyn's like, you have lied to me many times. And she's like, well, I didn't lie to you. You just didn't know the truth. It's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Yeah, let's not forget that Elizabeth is like a serial liar. That's what's so funny here is that like, Bronwyn is coming off as two-faced, but Elizabeth is the serial liar. That's what's so funny here is that like Bronwyn is coming off as as two-faced but Lizbit is the serial liar but it's like but Bronwyn's sort of like the one that everyone's like if that occurred you know so Lizbit is like oh don't judge me with your cynical behavior on your narcissism and your backlash and your two-faced personality unbelievable hypocritical. Not to see a cement plag real some in catacasement. Oh God river You're not my friend and I didn't want to be on the trail with you an arrowhead because I knew you were backstabbing bitch
Starting point is 00:48:16 Fuck you wrong. We it's just wrong. And you're not my friend and I was like damn Elizabeth. Okay, Elizabeth has earned another year. You know she can come under season good for you So promise I'm not a backstabbing bitch like you are And she says I'm the only one here that's like and saying oh there she goes Tell me Oh, yeah, you want there's a problem when pay that Oh yeah, you want, there's a Bronwyn pedestal. Shut up, I am down to you, on your Bronwyn pedestal. I love Shannon's.
Starting point is 00:48:48 It's all about me, me, me with Bronwyn, when like, it's like 15 minutes earlier. Oh, am I? I also don't like. I also don't like. What about me? I also don't like. So why did Bronwyn look into Elizabeth's finances? And Shannon goes, oh, I want to hear this story.
Starting point is 00:49:07 So Bronwyn's like, well, I go on to walk with Shannon and I hear that Elizabeth's some ice girl but she's full of shit. And I said, well, what are you talking about? And she said, well, we'll talk in two weeks because that's when COVID hit. So, you know, and Shannon's like, that is so wrong. That is so, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:49:26 That is, and show the libraries are wrongness. And show the libraries. So Brauman said, listen, so I called my girlfriend and one girlfriend had actually already done a title search. And chance I can't, no one's giving me a chance to speak. It's all about Brauman. I need a chance to speak. It's me, me, me.
Starting point is 00:49:41 I need a chance to speak. Ha, ha, ha, ha. So I went to $2's me. So, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I'm not going to judge you. I'm not going to judge you. And then when we're on the hike, people were like, oh, things aren't adding up. And I thought, hmm, maybe there's something to this. I'm like, you're literally saying the exact same thing. But on what set, you literally are saying it. But in a much better way, it's that way people are like,
Starting point is 00:50:16 oh, okay, that makes sense. Yeah. And Elizabeth's like, yeah, that makes sense. And we're almost like, I just did a Google search. What the hell are you guys? I mean, an entitle search, which you're blaming on your friend, but I mean, it does go like I just did a Google search what the hell are you guys I mean an otototal search which you're blaming on your friend but I mean it does go a little deeper than a Google search so Elizabeth is like well you know what oh no Elizabeth she's like she says she's building up women
Starting point is 00:50:35 you are tearing down women man and she's like well I hold women accountable there's a difference it's like like, it's like, you like the opposite of Gloria Steinem? Yeah, then Elizabeth goes, horse lesbian ever. Which, it's like, I feel like I under, like, what she's saying, that like lesbians have to lift up other lesbians or other women. So, and he goes, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right. I'll right Robin you're an alcoholic left look so We watch like the year of Bronwyn's journey which also includes a little bit of Jacob and his his drag journey And so when we come back we learned that you know, he's doing great
Starting point is 00:51:18 He has a great community online and He's not getting bullied in school, which is great because he's going to a performing art school, much like my summer camp. And when he walked in and he heals, people were like, nice heels, which is also something I'll be so like my summer camp. So basically, I'm reliving what it was like to be 14 and 15 through a Broadway story line. And Andy's like, so being on the show actually helped your sobriety and she said, yeah, you know, it helped me accountable. And she's 10 months into her sobriety and Emily cuts in. She's like, oh, I have a question.
Starting point is 00:51:50 So you've got all these kids. So apparently you can come in and out of drinking fairly easily, right? Because you can quit when you're pregnant. And then I'm probably was like, um, being sober and not drinking art, two different things, okay? Yeah. And Elizabeth's like, well, what kind of show bow are we talking about? And then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, Dodd, you know, you have a national platform and you can say something right now.
Starting point is 00:52:25 So I thought that was kind of funny. I mean, like I understand it and that's like a thing that has been discussed a lot, but usually in the context of like, why is this racist? Why is it people being like, you know what, I'm sick of trying to explain it, like, you know, but I think, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:52:38 I feel like, problem, kind of. As Andy said, they're just asking about your experience. You could have just like, you could have just like said something. Well, but she knows you're coming after. You could have just, like, said something. Well, but she knows they're coming after it. You know, she knows the very truth. When you say to somebody, oh, well, what kind of addiction is this, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:53 or whatever she said? Like what kind of sober are you? Meaning they're about to, like, start throwing drug allegations at her. Like she knows that that's coming, you know? So she's like, and she can't stop it either, by the way, because it comes pretty hard. Yeah, so she's like, well, there were six years where I wasn't pregnant. And when I did rehab in Miami, I was sober and we had twins. And, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:53:14 that's it. And Andy says, well, were you thinking that babies would keep you sober? And she's like, well, I was just feeling good. I didn't want to think about the reasons I drink. I mean, she said on the show that she kept having babies basically. Yeah, to stay sober or whatever. So now, Kelly, you know, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, could have, Bronwyn is just doing so terribly this reunion. Kelly really didn't have to do anything. She could have just laid back and watched just Bronwyn just messing up.
Starting point is 00:53:40 But of course, Kelly jumps in and her take is kind of the worst take I've ever heard. And she's like, Would you expect anything less from Carmen? She's like, she's like, Oh, I'm sorry, you're kids. I'm sorry, you're kids. And Brahma's like, well, you know, I'm, you know, I'm not just an alcoholic. I'm an addict. I'm addicted to sex, addicted to shopping, addicted to alcohol, addicted to being a lesbian, all those.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Addicted to leading movements. That's also another thing I could get addicted to. And Kelly's like, well that's everybody though, Harris. She was a man. Once I got addicted to making friendship rings out of those twisty ties to get from the garbage bags, fame, you can get addicted to fame. What about that?
Starting point is 00:54:20 Like fame, absolutely. And Shannon's like, I told you eyes. So then Kelly goes, let's be honest, That's like fame absolutely and Shannon's like, huh, I told you guys So then Kelly goes, let's be honest your awesome was just for a story You just wanted for a story and you're almost like you know what fuck you Kelly Fuck you do not even go there do not even go there. I mean you guys saw me drunk at bravo con 7 p.m. You guys saw me drunk I mean yeah, but we saw we saw like 60 housewives drunk at Bravo Con to be fair It's like you can use Bravo Con as your example. Do I need to show you another Lisa Rina clip on a table going get that
Starting point is 00:54:57 So so basically what comes out of it is that Kelly thinks that Brahman is a fake alcoholic Yeah, she's faking it for the show and so she's like you saw me at Bravokon and Kelly goes Well, we've all been trucking seven. It doesn't make me an alcoholic as you go see you think I'm a fake alcoholic fuck you Kelly Fuck you fuck you Kelly. Oh, so this is the way you talk She's yeah, that's the way I talk and you know how dangerous this is to out there out there to everyone in recovery You know like everyone's sitting there thinking, am I a fake alcoholic? Am I a fake alcoholic too?
Starting point is 00:55:27 What is alcoholism, isn't me? And I just, by the way, I love Kelly, she's like, oh, that's the way you talk. That's the way you talk. When Kelly's most famous clips that they air over and over and over again, it's her calling Heather Juproa got fitness. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Oh, that's the way you talk. And also, Kelly's, you know, Kelly will never be a lawyer because of the people she chooses to call to the stand. She goes, oh yeah, we'll call Dan at Orange Theory. And he'll tell you that Bronwyn works out every morning. I was working out with you, okay? And Bronwyn's like, well, I was a functional alcoholic. You're a liar.
Starting point is 00:56:03 And so the fight is she she can't be an alcoholic because she worked out every morning. Which, I know. And Brian goes, this is bio, even for you. And so even Andy goes, well, you can be a functioning alcoholic. Oh no, at 7 a.m., I never saw her hugged over. I was hung over. I was hung over.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Well, maybe because you were hung over, you weren't able to see that she was like I'll go over to or now call a function I'll call and he's like yeah, you can be a functional call coming you can work out in the morning and get blot of at night Have you see I've made a career out of it? All right, do you have CNN? How do you think she got on to this show? Okay, so So yeah, even Emily's like, don't you remember when she had that weird party last year that she got drunk and woke up on her balcony
Starting point is 00:56:48 Don't you remember that and then we get a shot we get a clip of Brahman wasted like opening her shirt and like shaking her boobs and And he's like, well, it seems like you're you're not a big supporter of her alcoholism or whatever and Kelly goes She's just not genuine you and you know her agent told her clean up your Act and she goes oh I thought it was your mom that pissed you into it and brum was like um um well my mom did tell me that if Go on Uh, she said my mom did tell me if I didn't take everything back I said about her she would tell everyone I'm an alcoholic and Kelly's like so like, so many stories, so many stories.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I just want to interject, is it like a bad thing if people in someone, if someone is like a sort of exhibiting signs of being an alcoholic and then people in their lives say, you need to clean up your act? Is that like a bad thing? Isn't that actually supporting the fact that they might be an alcoholic of people like, you need to clean up your act? Yeah, she was like she was like oh everything's so good. Trap. She's like oh passing out from drinking. Oh Having interventions from people. Oh so good try. I'm like well I think what she was saying how I took it and reading Kelly speak for as long as I have on this show
Starting point is 00:58:01 I was taking it as her saying your agent was telling you stopping such a fucking mess on TV and so you came up with a storyline to come on TV and say, look at me, I'm clean, you know, to like make it turn it into a hero thing. And so Bronwyn talks about her mom and she's like, well, she's a great grandma, that's fine. And Elizabeth goes, yeah, and she loves attention too, that one.
Starting point is 00:58:23 And Kelly's like, yeah, they're pushing it to narcissism. Yeah, Shannon actually blocked Dr. Deb from Instagram. Dr. Deb was so much upper ass. So Andy is like, well, there are parts of your mother's narcissism that you share. And then Bronwyn has kind of like to me the line of the episode because I'm not a narcissist. I was checked for that.
Starting point is 00:58:49 I just have a very large ego. I love I was checked for that. Like you just go in for your allergy tests, you know. Then we're gonna check you. We're gonna put a little bit of narcissism on this pen and poke you in the butt with it and see if a rash breaks out. No, didn't break out. You check negative for narcissism, okay? And then Andy goes, well, you don't seem like you're not a narcissist.
Starting point is 00:59:13 And then he saves it by going, I mean, I think we all kind of are. I mean, we're in front of 10 cameras right now. And Brian goes, oh no, there's a medical difference, Andy. There's having a big ego. I mean, it's a medically verifiable difference, Andy. And, Shannon's like, well, I mean, it is apparent to me that your choice is, how can I make myself more famous? And when you and Sean said at my house,
Starting point is 00:59:37 you said, our favorite thing to do is to go out and get recognized. Yeah. Which sort of seems like like I believe that actually, but I just always find it hilarious when reality stars bicker about who wants to be part of it, like about about someone trying to be famous when when your reality stars. Yeah, I just find that funny.
Starting point is 00:59:57 So then it gets to brawling and she is pulling on her ponytail. Like I think that she thinks she's climbing Rapunzel's tower at that point. She really is. She's like, she's just like, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, sh, shh, shh, shh, shh, sh, shh, sh, sh, sh, shh, sh, shh, sh, sh, sh, sh, sh, sh, sh, shh, sh, sh, like it. You know, you never know living until you get 20% off of every pepperoni you buy at the market, all right? So, and then Shannon does a thing where I say, well, I don't look at the, I don't even look at social media anymore. I mean, it's like stories and Instagrams and David Bedore with his new child and happy
Starting point is 01:00:41 and so many negative thoughts. That was doesn't fall far from the tree. That was doesn't part fall from the tree. The apple doesn't fall from the tree either. Part part from the tree. Do apples wear masks? So Andy's like, I thought it was nice that you were supporting Bronwyn.
Starting point is 01:01:01 You know, when you hear Kelly questioning her sobriety, what do you think? And she was like, you know what And when you hear Kelly questioning her sobriety, what do you think? And she was like, you know what? She gave me a lot of what was happening, and I went to those meetings with her, and there is where you see real truths, because no one in there is pretending, Andy, no one. And Emily's like, who went to?
Starting point is 01:01:17 I went to, and I also saw a very skilled back version of Bronwyn. I was there too, I went to one, two. I also went to New Hips Anonymous, New Hips. So Kelly is like, well, yeah, I mean, a lot of people go to meetings because of court orders. I'm like, yeah, but yes, yes. But I think what they're pointing is that
Starting point is 01:01:38 she's not going there for a court order. She wouldn't be going. Like if it were alleged, this is far, right? I think it's one thing. I'm going too far going too far I mean look don't question people's fucking alcoholism like what the hell like even if you think that I think Shannon phrased it in a much better way where she's like well I think that everything you do you do for attention which is true I mean Bronwyn started her whole alcoholism journey on the show by telling us in the diary room
Starting point is 01:02:05 sessions. She's like, well, you know, we have this party and I was so drunk that I felt miserable. And then I called up my producer and I said, we're doing this. This is a storyline this season. So it is like very, it's like such a reality thing to do. Like, you know, my storyline this season, alcoholism. She was, she did say that that was the storyline, the season alcohol is a she was she did say that that was the thing, but she's not saying she was an alcoholic to get a storyline, you know, she was saying, yeah, I'll be honest about it for the season or whatever. Yeah, I mean, I think that like there's a difference between saying, you know what, I'm going to put this out there and because it's going to hold me accountable, you know, and we're supposed to give ourselves,
Starting point is 01:02:43 like, this is like we're supposed to, you, this is like, we're supposed to give ourselves over to the show in a certain way. I think that's one thing. I think it's another to be like, okay, I am milking this for every bit of attention or everything I do. I'm gonna say, oh, it's because I'm an alcoholic. If you wanna have that argument, I think that's,
Starting point is 01:02:57 I think that's maybe a, I don't know if it's an wrestling argument that I use in this context, but others do, and I wouldn't necessarily begrudge that. But I think that Kelly's argument has had it's just not even real. And oh my God, my doorbell keeps ringing. Uh-oh, okay, well, we only have one more paragraph.
Starting point is 01:03:13 And the biggest paragraph of all. And he's like, so did anyone know that Bronwyn was battling alcoholism at the time? And it sounds like, well, high-pitched, spent a lot of time with her. And I didn't know if I was gonna say this, but as a mother, I'm going to. And Bronwyn just goes, like see, she knows what's coming.
Starting point is 01:03:34 And like when Stella was 14 years old, and Bronwyn's like, oh, shit, here it comes. She goes, at her very first beach barbecue. And I thought was sort of funny, like the very first beach barbecue. It's a sacred honor for a child to have her first beach barbecue. You said to her, you said, hey, Sophie, if you want the good stuff, give me a call. And Pram was like, she starts crying. And then it's done, done, done, coming next week.
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