Watch What Crappens - RHOC, Part 1: A River Runs Through Snit

Episode Date: July 13, 2023

The trip to Montana concludes on The Real Housewives of Orange County (S17E06), but the drama rolls on as Gina now suspects that Heather might be undermining her. Plus, Tamra continues to go after Jenn's boyfriend, and a rafting guide exposes his balls. This recording was so big we split it into two. Here's part 1! Enjoy the podcast!Watch the recap here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/86043504See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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What happens when there's so much that crap is Who cares what What happens Hello and welcome to Watch or Crap Ins! A podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and for we dive into the episode, just some quick little announcement. We recorded this episode, we start talking about catching up with gossip from last week, Kyle Richards, et cetera, we catch up on last week's Orange County, so we do so much catch up that this episode wound up being two hours long.

So in the pursuit of digestibility, we've split it into two parts. So here's part one. If you want to watch or listen to the whole episode uninterrupted, go check it out with crappins on demand on patreon.com slash watch or crappins. The whole episode is up there as like one big video, and it'll be on there for a week

before it goes over to YouTube. So maybe by the time you heard this, it's already on YouTube, who knows? So if you don't want any, if you just want one piece, go check it out on YouTube or on Patreon. Otherwise, here's part one, and then we'll also have part two a few hours later. Thanks.

Hello and welcome to Watch Our Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben, Ben Mantelker, and joining me today is the handsome and wonderful Mr. Ronnie Karam. Hi Ronnie, how are you? Well, how are you? Hi me.

I am just wonderful. You know, just another, another fun day here in beautiful Montana with the Real Housewives of Orange County. Not much to announce today. Go come join us on Patreon. Patreon.com slash watch for crap ins. You can access all of our videos a week before they go on to YouTube. So for all that exclusive content, go there. You also get access to our bonus episode.

We recorded it yesterday. It was one hour of lunacy. We went on to Amazon Prime Day week because it's two days, but it feels like a week. And we went and scoured it for good deals and finding things. I had a very dramatic moment searching for bowls. What was your big conquest, Ronnie? Do you remember the thing you were really looking for? It's kind of a haze. I got a lot of few state. I mean, I got a lot. I dropped 200 bucks, right? Therox that I got guys. Don't want to still tanning from the black. Okay. So you can go to that's on Patreon and obviously we can listen to us go shopping, but we actually did that on video.

We actually put up our browsers on screen. So you can actually browse along with us and see the things that we're looking at. It was really fun to do. So check that out. And then just follow us on all our social media. You know, we're on TikTok. We're both individually. TikToks.

We're both individually there. We're on the watchbook crappings. We've been making some tiki talkies. We've been doing this. I just joined threads. I just joined threads, which is called Ron Threads, both of us individually in watchbook crappings. I mean, guys, there's just so much, which is so wrong. Oh yeah. We're on threads, both of us individually in water. I mean, guys, there's just so much.

The world is so changing. Am I right? The world is crazy. So look at some there, give us some follows. And there's not much else to say, except, you know, before we dive into our real house was a Orange County. We were gonna do a big catch up episode

of the gossip of the past week, but we didn't. So we don't want this week to- We did crappy Lake instead. Yeah, we did crappy Lake instead. So why don't we take a moment to address some of all the crazy gossip. It's basic coverage. It's the coverage of stuff that happened during July 4th. Not coincidentally that the news would break the day before July 4th when people are away,

people are on vacation, at least in America. Well, we've got a lot of, yeah, she's very like, you know, president, you know, it's like political, like, break it on a Friday, holiday weekend. But I don't think it was necessarily an accident that it broke. I mean, I'm a cynical person and think everybody's making things up at all times. But do you guys really think that Kyle Richards is cheating with some lady? Okay, first of all, sexuality aside, because I don't really care,

and I think that everybody can be fluid, like, I mean, not me necessarily, but other people out there. I mean, I have a television, okay. I have Netflix, I've seen Chris Schell's new storyline, who also I think is kind of doing that for a storyline as well, sorry Chris Shell. But I think a lot of people are doing shit like this for storylines, but people who is gonna cheat in that relationship?

Kyle or Mauricio? I think Mauricio's cheating. I think Mauricio got his ass cheating, caught cheating. And I think that Kyle is doing this Morgan stuff and kind of like gay baiting in the press like with there we both have a heart tattoos that look exactly this saying what dating us I think they're kind of doing that on purpose so that Kyle doesn't have to talk about Mauricio probably cheating and where's my evidence for that I have none but that's my guess yeah and by the way I don't think the heart tattoos really indicate anything because I forgot what show it was. It was on this week, we were watching it.

And someone was wearing a sweatshirt that had that same exact heart. It's kind of like the vibe of the heart is like it's a heart written in cursive. It sort of like goes and soops up and then criss-crosses it right down below. And so I'm like, does that mean that Kyle and Morgan Wade are in a thruple with this girl? Wherever that was, I didn't commit to memory. So it's sort of a generic tattoo, but I can see, I don't know, I don't know what to make of the Kyle's storyline. I really don't. There is definitely a cynical part of me that says, wow, Vanneff and Froules had a huge resurgence with the cheating storyline so much so that

today it received an M2M enomin, one for outstanding unscripted reality show, which like, do we ever think we would see the day where Vanderpump rules is being considered the best of anything? And it is. It is literally crazy. I can't believe that. I mean, all of that. Congrats. Congrats.

And also the post-production department received a nomination for editing, I believe. So, congrats, you guys, because you guys did have to do a lot of work piecing that shit show together. But so like there was a cynical part of me that thought like as college richards, just dabbling in this scandal to try to get scandal of all numbers for Beverly Hills, especially because do we even talk about the fact

that like a month ago, Garsell was, it was interviewed and said that like, Beverly Hills, the season gets back to what it does best. It's like, it's just, it's not as much of a vicious season. It's just people getting along, which is boring. Boring, boring sounding. That sounds boring to me. Yeah.

So I don't know, like, like, how many times do we have to watch Garsell try to pretend she cares about wallpaper at her beach house in Ventura County or whatever? I know, that's gonna be the season. You know what I mean? I think that she is doing it for Scandal Vault.

Because listen, Scandal Vault is a least of Ander Pump show. That is Kyle's greatest nemesis in life. It's always who she's competing with the most. That show got it. And oh gee, what a coincidence. Right after shooting all this stuff drops in the media. And then Kyle's show has to go back and I'm doing more filming.

Are they doing more filming? Are they doing more filming? Yeah, they picked up the cameras again. And it's the same exact thing. So yes, I do think Kyle is doing this for, you know, and then she goes walking like where the paparazzi is or cause the paparazzi with Morgan like Covering her face and showing her wedding ring like okay Kyle like I don't buy Kyle's bullshit for two damn seconds I don't believe that Kyle would be interesting enough to be dating Morgan Wade. I just don't believe it

Also, who's Morgan Wade? Who is Morgan Wade, right? I saw a video of her. She's like Also, who's Morgan Wade? Who is Morgan Wade, right? I saw a video of her. She's like, I'm a contrasting, stop like that. Hey Morgan, what do you think about fishing? She's like, I love it. What do you think about it?

Who doesn't love fishing? She's just that kind of personality. I guess, of course she loves fishing. Her last name is Wade. But just like fly fishing. She just wants to do fly fishing. That's all, only fly fishing. Yeah, you know, the other thing is that like,

Kyle is way too involved in her own scandal because I have not been paying, so when it all broke, I was like, oh my god, this is crazy. It broke while I was playing my super nerdy game of Twilight Imperium, which was my 12 hour game of space conquest that I was playing with fellow nerds on July 3rd. Like my entire table was covered with like,

spaceships and planets. It was like full nerd him. And I was like, guys, Cal Richards is leaving Mauricio. I had to like stop the space conquest that pivoted into Bravo land. And that was like, I wanna talk about a table word

nobody's getting laid with anybody else. No. No. No. No. Yeah, see that's all, that's all, that's all Kyle needed to do. She just needed to play that game and she could have stayed safe from Russia. But yeah, so I had to make a hard pivot. But honestly, on the week of vacation, I really was truly on vacation where I saw that

this scandal was happening and I took kept tabs on it, but I just really didn't want to take on any extra bravo into my life that week. So I didn't really look into it. But what I did see that I still followed it. And really, my big takeaway is that every time someone posted something on Instagram, Caliwitches, we comment on it. And she continues to comment on it. And I think that, like like that's where I'm

feeling this is kind of ridiculous, not ridiculous, like this might be manufactured because you saw when there was like a real scandal with scandal, like a real earth's shadowing scandal. Like Ariana was pretty much, she went like radio silent, everyone went radio silent, you know, even Raquel until she was videotaped in front of a nail salon or something. Not, and everyone handles drama and trauma and scandal differently, but Kyle is like all up, it like commenting on like everyone's Instagram phone. Making sure that she's lit, like every,

if she, if really you don't want to be seen so you're walking out rodeo drive with Morgan while flashing your wedding Come on Kyle like I just don't fucking buy she's so bad at this, you know, she's so bad at it and you know The trolls are she she came out with this post. I think it was yesterday It's like hey everybody who wants to talk about me so much talk about this and then she gives you two flipping off the mode I love fuck off Kyle and then there's like a flipping off the mode. Fuck off Kyle. And then there's like a big group of people who's online like, oh, so we're cool

with outing people now guys. Is that what we're doing? First of all, of course it's not cool to out people, quote, I say with quote unquote. Of course that's not cool in general. I don't know that that's necessarily what's happening because it seems like we're kind of being led down a path to believe this in the first place.

Brothel viewers are not the brightest people. And I speak as one. We will believe whatever they tell us. We are trained by this channel to believe anything. And the only reason people are led to this conclusion is because they have led us to this conclusion through many Instagram posts and not having Mauricio on there or having all these posts where she normally is like,

oh my god, Mauricio's like the best whatever and then leaving him out of those posts and saying, well, you're a good dad, heart, instead of her, she's doing it on purpose, is what I'm saying. And then the outing thing, I don't even wanna hear anybody coming at us about outing or really anybody else

because the worst person about outing on this show is Kyle fucking Richards. And I will never forget what she did to Denise Richards with the whole Brandy Glamville thing and bringing Brandy back on the show to bring Denise down for us. That was outing. So fuck that argument, okay?

And Kyle loves everybody else's drama, rolls around in it when it's everybody else. And the second it's her, she starts crying and putting flip-off emojis everywhere. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Grow a pair, Kyle. Okay. You're the one who tries to bring everybody down every season and nothing is off limits for you.

So guess what? You're a turn. But at the same time, I think it's fake. So you're making your own turn. So, Dan, I'm talking to myself into it. Get out of that rotary. Listen. Listen.

Listen. talking to myself into it, get out of that rotary. Listen, listen, I will say some evidence in favor of it not being manufactured is that there were like strange behaviors on Instagram going back like a year ago, right? Like where she didn't acknowledge Mauricio on like a Mother's Day post or something. Mother's Day, Mother's Day one of those. One of those like he was not acknowledged,

and that was like a year ago. And there was a few weird discrepancies with Mauricio going back a long time. So I don't think Kyle plays a long game like that. So that is odd and that is strange, but maybe what there's a world where both can exist, like there are problems, and who knows what's going on behind closed doors, and maybe whereas Kyle may have been reticent to really put it out there because she spent so much energy over the past four or five

years talking about how long she and Marisa have been married and how the only ones were married and like here's a box from the not.com and then when she sees the success of scandival she suddenly says, oh you know what maybe I potentially put this out there are actual problems and see what frenzy I can whip up. Yeah, I think that my official guess is that there are problems. Maritio probably isn't some kind of cheating scandal but but to keep it under wraps, Kyle is letting this thing go because Kyle doesn't care if people think she's with somebody famous. Kyle loves being connected to famous people, like Sage Amy Lee Curtis one more time. So I'm sure Kyle is walking around loving the fact that people think that she's been

in Morgan Wade, you know. But there probably is some sadness there. Now I would like to stand for the only person who I believe is truly getting cheated on here, even though I just said I believe Kyle probably is getting cheated on. But I don't think that's anything new. I think she's always been cheated on. But here is who I think is really being cheated on. The real victim in all this, nobody has said it yet.

I don't think Teddy. Teddy is the one who was being cheated on here because Kyle did what Kyle does. She ran out and found a new little bestie. And Teddy is still apparently not saying anything on her show because of course, the only time, I read this comment, I thought it was funny. The only time anybody wants to hear what Teddy has to say,

she has nothing to say, of course. But she didn't say anything on, she won't say anything on her show about it, but I actually kind of felt for Teddy, because I was like, you know, that's Teddy's best friend. And I think that Teddy's the one who's getting cheated on here. And like that could have been Teddy

in a potential lesbian and fair with Kyle, and it's not, that's not too. That Teddy was passed over. I'm trying to look up the, the thing that you mentioned before, what Kyle was like, you look into this, the middle fingers, it was on like a photo of Kyle in like a hat, of course.

It was like, was it her with her whole family? Was it her with Mauricio? Because now she's posting like a million photos with like Mauricio now, right? Which is, it's kind of like this, oh here it is, yeah. I don't know if anyone can see it, my screen. Maybe it went to the bar, you know? Okay, so she's put this to her whole family in hats.

This is the one with the flip-offs, right? Yeah, this one with the flip-offs. And all her families aren't hats. And I just think for that alone, for that alone, there should be just like, a termination of this marriage, because this is just too many hats. Well, it's also proof that somebody's cheating, I think, because all the girls got together and we're like, we're all wearing terrible stupid hats. It's a Porsche.

A Porsche had some promotions. A Porsche is probably like, fuck you, dad, I'm not standing up for you or whatever, but they're all gonna work cowboy hats and solidarity now. Come on, I'm someone's cheating. Now, there was something else I was gonna say about this. Oh, so the other thing is that leading up to this, you know, another thing that gives some credence to this leading up to this, Kyle and Kathy made a man's. And in fact, Kathy had an Instagram live,

which I did watch, even though it was on vacation, quote unquote, where Kathy was just like, she was just recommended. She was like, my favorite steak restaurant in Los Angeles is Lowry's Prime Ribs. She was just like, yeah, I'm running on. But apparently, Kyle and Kathy have made up. And I can see them making up if the common factor in all their drama, Mauricio, is out of the picture. So that also led to screenings to the fact that this may be an authentic breakup.

Say that headline again? Kathy and Kyle. Oh, sorry, Kathy and Kyle have reconnected. They're good again because there was a wedding. This, by the way, this all seemed to center around the fact that one of Kim's daughters got married and asked Ben at the end of June. Yeah, they all, they like Kyle come.

Yeah, they like Kyle come. But I feel like, but now they're down with Kyle again and I feel like they would only be down with Kyle again. And Marisa was out of the picture. Right. Where Kyle probably had that moment with Kathy where she's like, I'm sorry for what we did with the agency. I will say this no matter what happened with Kyle, good for Kyle because Kyle is no idiot

and I read that she is half owner of the agency. And probably not half, but I think that she owns a portion of the agency which is very, very smart, Kyle. Well, very smart. Yeah, but you know what? What I heard also is that Marisa owns half of Kaaba, Alene too, so really no one's getting away with all of them. I know.

You know, it's like it's a wash. It's a wash. It's a wash. Oh, my guess is they won't get divorced. Nothing will come of this. I think this is a desperate play for ratings. I don't see them. I don't see a world with them getting a divorce.

But, you know, stranger things have happened. The news today is that they just took out a mortgage on their home for like five points, something million dollars. They took a loan on their mortgage or whatever. I don't know what that means. Really a lot of people need. Yeah, I don't understand that. Yeah, right.

Before they're gonna buy pump. Because pump just closed. At least that would be pump. By the way, that would be the sort of power move that would like make Kyle's dock go away up with me. I was like, now that is what you, that's what, that's how you get petty. That is how you are petty by pump.

Yeah, just turn into Kyle by Shaheeda by Aileen too and just put it right there in the corner in the middle of Lisa's universe. All right, so that was basically the big catchup with Kyle Richards. No one really knows what's going on. Kyle is really playing it for all it's worth to get attention on Instagram.

I'm not buying shit. I am worried about this coming up season of Beverly Hills. And I'm also worried because everybody's gonna say, this is what you get for firing Rina. Which I don't think is the case. I think this is what you get for not hiring more interesting people, okay?

We should not have to tap dance and make up storylines for everybody because nobody has anything going on. You know what I mean? You're right. She shouldn't have to tap dance. And this is what you get for keeping, like, keeping an emphasis on glamour and glam squads.

I'm sorry, that I think that is always come back to the glam. It always comes back to the glam squads. And I think we have to maybe exercise the people who were the biggest glam squad people Well, it is fun kind of watching Erica have to bargain bin it Also Erica I'm glad that in fire Erica because I want to see this rush limbaugh twin that she's dating the the a billionaire who owns the Casinos and Vegas it got her that yes that gig at House of Blues or whatever the Residucings burger and a burger and a pretty mess commercials

Here comes one right now Now While we're wrapping up the gossip session like the you know the talking about catch-up session I do have something that we have to correct. I'm surprised, the fact that we haven't been clocked on it more, really speaks to like, how little people are watching this show.

It seems like we spent like a good portion of, I don't know where you're gonna be there. Of our real housewives of Atlanta recap, making fun of Roy's business, and we kept on calling it Call Me Kale. And we're like, what a stupid name. Call Me Kale.

There's not even a pun there. Well guess what? It's not called Call Me Kale. It's called Call Me Crazy. Which is what else we need to take responsibility for? That being your fault. That's my fault. That is your fault.

And I'm a stupid person. So I will just go with whatever you tell me. And you're like, it's called Call Me Kale. That doesn't mean, and I'm like, it is called Call Me Kale. I'm going with bang down this. It's our first show back from vacation. But it's funny that none of us decided like that doesn't even make sense. That's just not that's like the time we talked about Apple socks and people like lost their mind at us. So anyway, it's called Kale Me Kale. Apple socks. What was the real thing? Maybe it was like a brand called Apple. I don't even remember what the Apple socks were.

Yeah, I don't even remember. But the brand was stupid. Kale me crazy. But by the way, still saying by everything we said, and I still think the whole way. I think the whole way. And also Kale me crazy is a stupid name too. It's a stupid name.

And by the way, I still choose O My Crab over Kale me crazy. And people please go to O My Crab and keep it in business. And by O My Crab, I mean my crab bows, because I was about to end into people please go to oh my the oh my crab and keep it in business and buy oh my crab on me and my crab house because I was about to end into please go to it can we do a fundraiser and my fundraiser I mean people just go to this restaurant because I really like it and I'm afraid it's gonna close so everyone go to my crab house on Melrose and Vine thank you well I also really like my name I'm kill me by your name where you can only go eat kale salads with like twinks. Yeah, you know, I think our I like for that. Yeah, you know what? I just market. Yeah, you know,

It's disgusting. The director, but the director of usual suspects would love that Whatever's the most terrible Oh, I never even saw that movie. What? But you know how it ends unfortunately, right? No, I don't know how it ends I just know what it's about and I'm like gross. Why would I watch What? But you know how it ends, unfortunately, right? No, I don't know how it ends. I just know what it's about and I'm like, gross. Why would I want to? Oh, you should watch it.

If you've made it like 30 years without getting spoiled, because now that we're watching it, I'm gonna count me, count me by your name. I usually will suspect that, of course. I have not seen, call me by your name either. I'd wanna see it, but I also see your, that Kaiser Soze is in that. Yeah. It's based on Kaiser Soze. Okay. So let's get into the recap. Something else we missed last week while we were away.

The only show that was new on Bravo was Real Housewives of Orange County. Now, it's a rare that we watch a housewives show and don't take notes on it for this show. But last week the pronouncement was made. We are not taking notes on the show no matter what. We're not going to fucking do it. So I watched it. Oh, also I watched all the project runway, which by the way, fucking love project runway. What a great season. They got so many crazies back to do the show.

I mean, they're literally fighting between the Christian Sariano people and the Tim Gun people like the OGs are starting to Resent the newer people Hester Pran is like It's crazier than ever. Not Hester Pran. Sorry They're bringing you literary stars this time She's like when will people listen up? Scarlet a challenge Yeah, I have to catch up on it. I watched I did watch an episode two weeks ago When will people loosen up? Scarlet A challenge.

Yeah, I have to catch up on it. I did watch an episode two weeks ago. I watched the one that was like about gowns, like royalty gowns, and it was really amazing. So I am gonna catch up very good. The point is, the point is real housewives of Orange County. And by the way, I also wanna say thank you, because I said, by the way, everyone,

we're not gonna watch, we're not gonna recap it. So like, don't even bother messaging us and be like, are you gonna recap, are you gonna recap it? Honestly, no one did. Everyone totally respected that. So thank you, everyone. I really appreciated that. Yes.

Like even when one person did ask, someone was like, shut up, stupid. They said that I'm gonna do it. And you're talking nasty. Of course, I'm gonna get you asking. And then, oh, geez, sorry. You know, so that was pretty funny. Okay, so let's get into it.

So big trouble is big trouble in something, something is what this episode's called. It's from season 17, episode six, they're in Montana. Last, what I was gonna say is we did not take notes for last week. So I actually got to watch the episode like, you know, I normally would watch it if we didn't do this show

Which is not stopping every two seconds to write something stupid down Let me tell you what a fun fucking cartoon Ridiculous show this is it's so stupid. It's so funny. The show's in a place right now I don't know why it's working now because it's technically still really stupid and nothing's happening and everything's just made up I don't know why sometimes that's okay for viewers and sometimes it's not, but right now it's okay. I mean, it's very, very funny. Yeah, cast chemistry is the next factor on every show.

And the cast chemistry here is like, it's like shockingly strong. To the point where this episode, I found myself laughing just at stuff. And like that reminds me of laughing just at stuff. And that reminds me of classic Roni. I'm not saying this is classic Roni, but sometimes on a classic Roni episode, nothing would happen, but it was so deeply entertaining, because the woman would be just the things that would come out of their mouth, and the things that they

would do, just cracked me up. And so I was finding myself giggling here, and I'm finding that Jen is working out pretty well so far as a new cast member I first thought should be just kind of like a generic piece of plastic and she is a generic piece of plastic But she's like serving her role like the she's like the plastic role doing doing that really well And I'm enjoying how she sort of has this like cold Emotionless response to things that I'm kind of enjoying. So like she's sort of like negative space, right? Like you know in photography you need negative

space and she's like our negative space. In a way that's good. Actually, I have to say I don't think she's, I mean I think she does a blast, you know, she's from Orange County. They all look plastic, but I think that it's like have you ever seen those videos where like oh my god you guys pollution the season rising Yeah, the world about to end and then they'll show like all the plastic that they pull out of the ocean and you know That is discussing I can't believe human beings have done this to the ocean and it's just like Diet Coke bottles And it's like dead dolphins and you're like this is the saddest thing and you're like about to cry

And you're like we just ruined the world for the next generation But then that little part of you goes, that Diet Coke was really good. Yeah. That was a really good Diet Coke. Like it was kind of worth it in a way. And that's kind of how I feel with Jen. I'm like, she is.

She is plastic and she is not going to just decompose well. She is going to litter the earth. She will be able to find it for a while. She gave us something too. She also gave us something. Plastics make it possible. So also, I think that part of the reason she seems kind of cold or like disinterested almost

and Tamra's constant accusations is that she knows Tamra. And I think that that is a part of the magic that we've been missing. When they bring on these people that nobody really knows, they brought on somebody that that Tamara actually does know. And I think Tamara probably pitched it as, listen, I know this lady, I'm actual friends with her. I will ruin this bitch on TV.

I have no problem. I have no problem destroying this friendship for TV. And it is sort of like a good counterbalance because Tamara is over the top and when Jake listen, she's so calculated and obvious. She's like really one of the most blatant plotters on TV. She's so not smooth. But then you have Jen who's kind of like emotionless and reserved and it sort of like works in a really good way. So I think it's going well. I've really enjoyed it. So the big thing for last week was that Gina is still constantly triggered by Jen and because Jen cheated. And she left the guy for Ryan and Gina's on a whole thing.

I'm sorry, I can't do this. I get the trigger from me, I can't do it. And I like all culminate with Gina climbing into like a bulldozer or a tractor or something and like sobbing and then Heather went up and joined her in the seat and Heather was like to show that I really care. I'm gonna scrunch up my face in ways I've never scrunched it before so she like crinkles her chin up to her nose and she's like you cannot call Trevor about this. You absolutely cannot. You're on a very limited data plan. Do not waste those minutes. Well, there's a couple of things also.

We found that Heather is starting to get upset because Shannon and Tamara have just decided they're best friends again. Like after all of that, they are now rolling around on the, literally rolling around on the ground together. And I do think Tamara is purposely pushing Heather's buttons about it.

Of course. And trying to hurt Heather's feelings about it. And Heather falls right into it. And I think that's another thing that is working really well with the season in general is that Heather is not a star. And when they tried to bring Heather back last year and make it the Heather show, by the way,

we loved last season. I think both of us loved it as well. But making it the Heather show. By the way, we loved last season. I think both of us loved it as well. But making it the Heather show, Heather's not a star, she's not meant to carry a show, it's not meant to be built around Heather. This is a trigger Heather show because it's funny to watch someone who thinks that they have all these manners and then you watch them and they're actual trash just like everybody else. And that's kind of what's fun about it. And so I'm loving watching them trigger Heather. And she is following right for it. And Tamar is totally doing it on purpose. And also, by the way, it's a storyline that when we go off and fucking look at us, I'm like, and also, oh, I love it because you know what, we have the most beautiful backdrops you've ever had

on crap and on demand behind us. I'm like, look how beautiful this is. But also, this also goes to show how much more compelling it is to watch a storyline about friendship dynamics, I think. Because that's a very real relatable thing. And watching a group change dynamics when someone comes back into it or people make up, et cetera, et cetera. That's always gonna be more interesting than glam squats. Not that the show has a glam squat issue. This is the literal opposite.

It's like Timmer of curling shenan's hair. But some of the issues we've seen on Atlanta where Atlanta doesn't feel very cohesive. There's a different, we can sort of see the difference of like trying to scrape for drama versus like authentic drama that comes from actual relationships people have with each other on the show. Not stuff that happens on Twitter, not stuff that happens, you know,

at a restaurant where someone would show up. Right, so some of this stuff from last week was just cracking me up. Like Gina has this sit down with Jen, you know, talking about how it's so hard for her knowing Jen because Jen cheated and Gina's triggered and Joe gun on Twitter who we love. Obviously, we love him. You shall follow him.

He quoted this on Twitter. I'm honest Twitter. Now just read this quote back perfectly. But Gina told her actually I'm really happy that we ended up bunking together because for me, I got to know you beyond the infidelity. China, who's fucking business is it of yours? What a stupid fucking quote from somebody. Could you imagine?

Like, no. That is my business if I cheat on somebody else. It has nothing to do with you. Also, isn't Travis still married? I don't think, no, I know that's different when you're separated, okay? And I'm not saying it's the same thing as cheating on your husband,

but you're just throwing a lot and also didn't tamerate Eddie, it wasn't tamerating Eddie before. She got divorced from Simon, and I know Simon's evil and everything, I'm not gonna take that away from the girl, but why are these morals so important just for the new girl? Well, also, like, also fuck Gina for making us somehow take the stand of the cheater after

we spent like three months, three or four months, like, right justly, appreciating against all the end of all. And now we're like, leave Jen alone. But it's not true, but you're, leave Jen alone. But it's all about perspective. So then we get another Tamra storyline that she was bringing in last week, which is, wow, because she can't get Jen. She's trying to get Jen, she's trying to trigger Jen, she's turning on Jen in front of

all the other ladies. And it's working with Gina, Gina's anti-Jen, but everyone else is like, who cares? People cheat. Like we're in Orange County, literally nobody cares. So Tamra wasn't happy with that, so she uppedpped her game and now she's telling everyone well I heard from another fellow bad that Ryan walked into my gym his saw me and he said I'm gonna fuck her first of all by self-serving story you got going on there she's like I heard that like Ryan locked into my gym and said she's so fucking hot I want a fucking bone everybody in and said, she's so fucking hot. I want a fucking bone here by the end of the summer

because she's so engraved. Are you sure he wasn't talking to a fanding stan or like something with very sharp blades that would rip off his feet? Like anything, I could see him talking like, did he see a water bottle? Maybe he was point or a water bottle, maybe he was pointing at me.

I just wanted to fuck the uneven floors. I don't know, this is King. What's it a literal barbell me just wanted to fuck the uneven floors I don't know what's his king with the little barbell that he wanted to because anything I could see choosing over him saying I want to fuck her like I just don't believe it Tamara I don't believe it and then Shannon because she tells that you know she first you tell them a camera and Heather and so Shannon does her home alone face where she's like like, oh, what's all? Hi, what? My parents left me. They didn't even notice I wasn't on the plane with them. Oh, what?

What is Robert's? I'm gonna hang a peanut bucket over the staircase and dangle it from the chandelier. I hope I have some marbles to put in the hallway to make these Robert's fall down. Ha! Oh, I hope there's a strange old man in the neighborhood that turns out to be a very warm and charming person.

And Shannin tells us to send notice and if she doesn't, and she finds out, how is this going to destroy her? Cause whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop So then Tamra tries to like create a scene with Jen and so then they start squabbling at the campfire and Really the big takeaway from this is that while they're squabbling there are these two ladies who are cooking dinner for them all One of them has like a big bright red wig. She's just like, you know what? I'm I don't know when I'm gonna be on TV next so I want to make a tribute to why known a Judd right now so They're they make this whole thing of Pyson, and then they're just sitting there waiting for these women to stop fighting, and they just keep on snickering,

like just not snickering, but they're just like serving a surf food to that shit show over there yet. No, they're still fine, this deep bitch is great. I know they keep making all these snide little comments about what idiots they're serving. And so they're squabbling around the fire and Shannon makes some weird argument in favor of Jen where she says, well, I just don't believe it. Because Jen's like, I did not fuck around on Ryan, right? And she goes, what happened was Ryan and I liked each other. We were having an emotional

affair, but we weren't having sex. but then he called me and was like, Hey, I got you a gift. And so I went to the parking lot and I met him and we got in his car and he gave me a gift, but then nothing else happened. So that's where they were allegedly caught, right? Because I was like, what's my car? There were other devins sex in the car. And she was like, oh, it's getting a gift. I was literally in the car just picking up a gift, which I don't necessarily believe you, Jen. Okay, do you just- She was penis.

Give me a fun break, yeah. So, but Shannon is like, well, I believe Jen because she has five children. And why would you walk away from a marriage after meeting a guy a couple of times? I just don't believe it. I just don't believe what? What?

Why would you do that? But see, when she said that, I interpreted that as saying like, no, there was more to the story here because you don't just walk away after like a few days, like after like a gift, like that there was more going on. But like, I thought she was saying more was going on

in the marriage and that's why she left. And then she happened to get with Ryan. Oh, either way. But because she applied that more of a sudden dissapeciation. Right, she apologized about coming out. I was like, what did you say wrong? But yeah, you're clearly who knows?

Either way, she was implying that that she was more going on. Call me cat. Call me cat. But Gina didn't want to hear any of it. Gina was like, yeah, I mean, I'm from only a marriage, five children, and an entire wall full of science from Marshalls

that your spouse will lovingly picked out. You don't just do that, you don't walk away from it. Yeah, she was, you're in a car getting gifts from a man. I'm sorry, but you did walk away from your marriage and this is why I can't do this, I'm sorry I can't do this. I'm like, walks away. But Shannon's thing, she goes, but she has five children. Why would she walk away from a marriage after meeting a guy a couple of times?

Have you guys met Bronwyn? I mean, what the fuck? Or anyone on Bravo? Or anybody on this? How long have we been watching this show? It's like nobody on this show has seen this show. It's very not meta. You know what I mean?

It's like the opposite of meta. So then Heather has her conversation with Gina and the tractor, which is what Ben started with, which I completely derailed him. No, it was fine. No, I'm glad you did, because honestly, I watched this episode, I watched it, I loved it, I laughed, I was like, ugh, this show is back on track,

and I swear to God, I couldn't remember a single thing that had happened. And so I was like, I just remember Gina sobbing, sobbing in some sort of like industrial farm vehicle that like, I felt like it was a scene from that close range. She just like I feel like Madonna. She started playing. She was like, so I'm like, my god. And Heather climbs into that. And she had her like, because you know, Gina's like pulling out her like metro PCS phone. She's like, I got a call from campus. And Heather's like,

no, put this away. I don't know what that is. Is that really a phone? Okay, I haven't seen a clamshell phone in many years. Do not call him because he should not be the one that you call about this. Cause she's basically saying, like, listen, you can't keep venting about your ex to your current man because you might like, you might like poison that relationship, you might drive him away, you might whatever, which I don't know if I nest,

it's like I think it's, Heather doesn't know necessarily what the nature of their relationship is because as we find out later, Travis is totally down for it, but I don't think that she's necessarily totally wrong either. Like, it's fair to say like if you keep yammering about your ex and youring about your ex and your triggers about your ex and your past relationship, you might jeopardize your

current relationship. I think it's a fair concern. I do too actually and this is a very odd episode for me because I find myself on Heather's team a lot which literally never happens. Like I don't I don't think it's ever happened. I mean, someone could run over Heather in a crosswalk and I would be on the driver's team. Like, it's weird. It's weird for me to be on Heather's team, but I am kind of on our team a little bit

in a lot of this episode. This is the first thing. Now, I understand, it's explained later that Gina is kind of doing this because she has shared a trauma with Travis and Travis. Matt is the trauma and he is helping. We'll get to that when we get to it. That argument still though, I think what people are seeing but nobody is saying is to her

face yet, is that she's obviously still got something for me. It's Matt, her husband. me. It's Matt, her ex-husband. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think she's still even as traumatic or horrible as that guy was. I think now that he's kind of getting a shit together and being a good dad and doing all this stuff. And he seems like she's not over-matte.

You know what I mean? And now she's with Travis. And Travis just seems like convenient. He just seems like a, I don't know. You know, it's like we all get on those scooters. You know, like, scooters every once in a while, even though we know, like, we don't really want to, but we think it'll make like a fun TikTok. So we do it. Like, he just seems like that. He's like one of those scooters outside a bar. You know, you're like, I'll ride this

until an actual Uber comes. Right. And so, um, I think think at worst Heather may have overstepped, but at best she may have given some good advice and I'm just putting, I'm logging that right now because I have a lot of issues with Gina this episode. Come on, shoes. Here comes one right now. So Heather's like, Travis can't be that guy for you, okay?

Now he's not what he can be, what he can be, he could be a, he could be a waiter for me, can I hire him for my house? Because we really have a vacancy. If he can bring water, he can be my kind of man, he can be an Alfredo, okay? Now we're like to rename a Alfredo. Sometimes you need to ask yourself, are you a man? He can be an Alfredo, okay? Now we're like to rename him Alfredo. Sometimes you need to ask yourself, are you a man? Or are you an Alfredo?

Now I like when Heather does this thing where she's like, I'm very serious, look at how I'm pinching the very tip of my chin with two of my fingers. I'm just gonna show you guys. And she's like, as far north as the plastic will possibly go. Very serious right now. I'm just serious.

Gina's like, I know I don't disagree, but it's just like dissnaring out. I just want him to like get away. Like, he's like, she's talking about everything. And it's like, it's exhausting. I know, I know. You know who else is exhausted? My chin, because it's being pinched.

My chin is like, the tip of my chin has no blood coming to it's being pinched. My chin is fracked. The difference with my chin has no blood coming to it. I hope everybody gets a very concerned right now. Do you know what it feels like to have your chin fall asleep? Because I'm experiencing that. So, Gina's like, it's just like a horn for me to look at. Like, it's like,

horn for me to look at from like any of you. I'm just like, don't want to look at. I just talk about inf, and Gina tells us, it's so hard to leave a marriage, and like everything that happened between Matt and I was like a bad dream, and it's like a testament to who Travis is, that he can tolerate all these things, that are going on between my ex and my kids.

It's why I love him so much. I'm like, well, you're assuming he's tolerating it, right? Like, that's the assumption, right? Cause I'm not sure Gina is such a great read on. What's going on with men based off of the lead up to everything with Matt? Well, we find out later like he is really tolerating it and stuff, but I think, I don't know.

Gina just seems really still hung up on that. Excellent. That's all I'm gonna say. I just, that's all I really think. I don't have a question. I'll talk to her next time. But it would not shock me though if Gina is saying, like, oh, he's like, he can, like, he's like really tolerated.

He can tolerate all these things, but she's actually never checked down on him until this episode, until Heather actually said something. And in terms of, yes, but like, I wouldn't be surprised if she's just like saying it based on what she feels about him. Well, I'm not to get too depressing either, but this is also kind of abuse language that I don't like. It makes me uncomfortable. She's talking like, you know, this is a guy, this is, he's tolerating me and he's tolerating my problems and I'm lucky to have somebody like that. And it's like, no, you know, I don't want you to feel

like that. It's not. And as he says later, it's not tall. I don't really like Gina, but I don't like that. I want Gina to like Gina. You know what I mean? I like it's important that she like Gina. She's worthy of being liked by herself, even though I don't love her on the show. And I don't think you know, it's not tolerating you. Someone who loves you and you have feelings, they're supposed to be there and listen to you and love you through that. And so yeah, I don't like listening to that. And I think that's the language of somebody who has been in an abusive relationship, just feeling like she's lucky to have somebody who will accept her for the way she is, which no, you're fucking gorgeous. I don't know that you're smart, but you're like, gorgeous, you're really nice. You seem to be a really good mom. You've mixed different names

to come up together with a makeup brand. I mean, do you've got a lot of positive things going for you? And I don't want you to settle just because you think like, well, this is all I deserve, you know? Right. So how do I go? Okay, take a moment to realize that because this is, this is so much for you, you haven't really dealt with it. Okay, you're pouring this all on to a simple man who just wants to watch real unfortunate the end of the night. Okay. If you thought about therapy, and you know, it's like, no, I don't want to be down to the fact that I'm still struggling with this because like, I like to pretend like I did

because like, it just like feels safe. So she basically saying, I never, she like never dealt a process or went to therapy about everything that happened with Matt. And she's like, you know, this still definitely days is circumstances when things come up. Like recently, I attended a wedding in a church.

Like, I got married in a church, okay? I'm like, the preacher said, you swear to love and then me and Matt had a son that said, live last love, you know? And then like recently, I saw a traffic cone. So I dressed like a traffic cone. And I'm like, wait, that part wasn't about me being sad, but I am dressed like a traffic driver.

So like, yeah, to bright one stress with the bright one eye shadow. I was like, are you trying to like make sure traffic doesn't go over that recently unfilled pothole? Like, fucking wearing Gina. And you know what? Like, you know what's really crazy? Like the other day I drove by a bed bath and beyond and Matt and I, we both had a bed. We both had a bath and we both a beyond me once.

And now they're like you are allowed to have feelings which is what I'm going to tell my chin after I stop pinching it very. And Jean is like, but I keep stuffing them down. She's like, it's like I tell Terry all the time. Stop stuffing. No one likes a moose, Nuckel Terry, not literally figuratively or in your case emotionally. So they hug, they hug.

Can you guys swammy, I smell like fish. Oh, don't worry about it. So then Tamara, now Tamara, back at the camp, she's like, everyone go put on pajamas, bitch. And so they all have these like matching red pajamas and they're gonna be like split up into 10th and everything and Shannon asked Tamara how her conversation with Jen went about you know confronting Jen about what Ryan said to Tamara about Tamara and she says now did you did you see

that he had a reputation for you know you know I don't even want to finish this sentence because it doesn't even need to be finished and she was was, yes! I'm really open and honest with her. And I expose something that's been bothering me for a while, bitch. Ten minutes earlier, Ter was like, The fact that he walked into my gym and planted it instead, I'm gonna fuck her. And he knew I was smitten. Okay, that's it, man. And then Ter was going,

That's hard for me, Ter. That's hard for me. You know what else is hard for me? Warren, Warren talks for me. He's hard for me, Tamra. That's hard for me. You know what else is hard for me? Warren, Warren talks for me. He's hard for me. So Tamra says, by the way, she's not the only married woman he fucked in the gym. So, Jesus Christ Tamra,

doesn't this violate HIPAA or Jim code of some kind? It doesn't plan it fitness has some kind of HIPAA that people follow, like, what kind of business owner is this? Yeah walking around telling everybody the gossip that happens in her gym I mean what the fuck a gym buying nature is kind of a board L.O. and there is don't ask don't tell no one to your fucking gym is down I would ask there you shouldn't be a lot don't I mean she probably calls people schools like I just want you to know that Toby Smither orders marijuana from me and South.

If it's called CPS. I'm like, what kind of person is this? Terrible business owner. Yeah, exactly. So then Tamara explains it to us. She says, if I didn't care about her, I wouldn't have even said anything, but I do care about her.

And I care about her family, which is why I've decided to destroy her reputation on national television. Which is why I'm going to ruin her entire family right now on television and try and give her husband evidence to get them kids taken away and everything else. Tamara, you are a horrible human being. Great work. I'm kind of enjoying you. You're doing a great job. Yeah.

So yeah, she's like, no stand up guy goes after a married woman. I'm assuming she means like gentlemen, not stand up comedians because I feel like comedians would do that. No stand up does that. I think that Eddie did that. Actually, pretty sure that you're with Simon when you met Eddie. I'm going to stick with that. I'm not really sure.

You guys can correct me in the comments if I'm incorrect, but from my memory, I'm pretty sure that's what I hope in back on the day. So then also, what was the other thing? No standard man goes for married woman. I also agree with that, by the way. And what Tamra is saying here, see I'm switching all over the place.

Tamra says, I might look like a bad guy in the end. By the way, you are a bad guy. And your Gucci head is obviously fake. Please take it off. But she's like, I may look like a bad guy in the end. By the way, you are a bad guy. And your Gucci head is obviously fake. Please take it off. But she's like, I may look like a bad guy in the end, but she's the one that's gonna set that. And you're right. She is.

She is with the cheater. And I do not believe that men like this change. And she's gonna learn a lesson, but let her. But she's also gonna suffer because she's hanging out with the bad guy, which is not just Ryan. It's also Tamara. So then Heather comes over. She goes, hello, this is television's Heather DeBro and I want to show everyone that I am fun and carefree.

Would anyone like to smoke a marijuana joint? Anyone? Would anyone like to get stoned? Would anyone like to get wavy gravy? Would anyone like to be like, wow, grass? Let's smoke some grass, everyone. Would anyone like to hang out with my good friends, Chuchin Ching? Hmm.

Let us puff, puff, give it to me. Sister? Yeah, when Heather starts passing around joints, it's time to go back to heroin. I'm done with weed. I'm fucking done with it I've been done. I've been kind of done with it for a while But yeah, when the Heather's of the world are like oh my god marijuana you guys. I'm done with that I'm just going back to hard drugs. I just just so awkward in her attempt to seem so carefree She's like I am gonna get I will get stoned now like the youth of America

so Now they're all eating their bison. Oh no, there's some offensive. There's some things that people took offense to, but I can't just let you just really gallop off through the valley of Montana. So Tamara goes, what the heck, no longs if I had to nail water?

Don't you sell marijuana products, Tamara, isn't that your business? But she's like, what the heck, no longs? And Heather goes, what do you her? Pointing it Shannon. And Shannon goes, the heck my lungs and Heather goes what do you her pointing at Shannon and Shannon goes well what does that mean what do you her me and Heather goes meaning you have a lung issue Shannon I'm not coming for you she's like oh well I didn't really appreciate her calling you her like that I mean who says that to me in that town her I think that my lungs were we're a fair game for comedy.

I guess if, I guess, you know, maybe we'll just go after people who have a cystic fibrosis next. So, so now there are, now they're eating dinner and everything and Shannon's like, oh, Gina, by the way, I hope you didn't get upset about what I said before because, you know, I don't even want to hear what your answer is, I just want to put that out there what I said before because I don't even wanna hear what your answer is. I just wanna put that out there so I can see that I apologize. And you know what, sometimes I don't understand

your perspective, but it's more like, I was upset by it, it's not like I was upset by it, or I think it was a problem. It's just like you would not the reason I got upset before. And she's like, yeah, you know, it's really hard to get yourself to a place where you can just 100% let the piss go, especially when they're a person

you'd sell a body of life. And Heather's like, oh, by the way, who liked my joint? Who liked it? Who liked it? Who's stealing? Hi. Who got like from my J-O-I-N-T joint, marijuana. I want to make sure that we don't move on too quickly from the fact that I did offer a

doobie to these women and that I am young and I am fun. And the first time I smoked marijuana was when Paul Servino gave me a doobie on the set of That's Life on CBS Friday nights. Um, and Sam was like, that lamb, that is stunned. And so, how does it go? Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Do we, this is Doobie laughter. Ha ha ha ha ha.

It's just like, I'm fun stone. She literally goes, I'm fun when I'm stone. Aren't I? Do you need a brownie? Look at me being a fun stone person on marijuana. Heather tries so hard to just come off as this fabulous like rich and but also normal like good mom kind of a person. She just fails on all the time. She's just such a robotic monster of a human being like none of this comes up. Last week, she's like, you want me to shovel shit?

Does she now make a shovel? Does Chanel make a shovel? Does Chanel make a shovel? Yeah. So try hard. But I love it though, because I love how she tries so hard, but then her true nature comes through like with the IMDB fight. That's the true Heather, but when she's trying to be like, fabulous, like I'm just the fabulous Heather who needs a Chanel shovel.

But you choose a monster. So on this one, this one is Tamer going, oh you guys, you wanna go sleep in this tent? We can sleep two by two and I'm only gonna sleep with Shannon cause she's only my best friend here. So that's not only best friend. And Heather's like, sleep in a tent.

Why would we do that? Is there no four seasons Montana? Do we do? Ha ha ha ha ha. Okay, so Shannon, I'm in this tent. Um, you'll know it's our tent because it says no hethers a lot. Okay, good night everyone So they actually go back to the places that they're staying and don't stay in the tents and the latest like thank God Those bitches don't even appreciate bison. You're welcome Yeah, seriously, Shannon's like I mean she wants it as a sleep in a tent instead of a 95 on Tritz square foot villa.

Ha! Now, 30 to 40 negative thoughts about that idea. Yeah, and there's like let that smoke a joint. And so then we get high cam, which is not what being high is like at all. Actually, friendly thing that who gets high out there, I'm always offended. I'm like, someone at Bravo has to get high.

I mean, why is the high camp always like, boo, hi, everything's moving slowly. And I have no idea what it is. This is what being high is like. I've got the best idea for a sitcom. A lady who's kind of like trailer park and lives in like a bad house and is a real smart ass with her children.

I'm gonna call it Roseanne. Oh my God, I think the police are here. This is my version of being high. You know what's so funny is the other day I went to the supermarket. Huh. You get a lot of like beginnings or sentences with me and then they ended my head. Um, not on like a podcast.

Some of the notebooks, some of the notebooks full of like when I would get high and right down ideas. Oh yeah, I'm going to take over the world. And one of them was, um, it's, I'm going to have like a journal like if I'm writing a journal, like talking, just talking about what I did that day. But it's gonna be like a podcast. It's gonna be like a video, but like a blog. I mean, I woke up and read it.

I was like, a vlog, you fucking moron. Is this person? I hate you, I hate this person. Well, thankfully this segment of them being high I was like only like three seconds because I was afraid it was gonna be like a five minute thing where they're just gonna fill up time with them getting stoned. But it was just like Heather laughing.

Like, look at me smoking grass and having fun. Afro man is my landscaper now. I hired him. He's in my jail. I mean, my employee quarters. So now it's the morning and everyone's waking up and Heather goes into Tamersroom to check in on her. She's like, hello there, are you okay?

Are you hungover from smoking so much marijuana with me, television's out there to bro? And she does, she goes into the room and then she go like, Shannon is split on her bed. So she sees Shannon but she ignores Shannon and goes right down into Tamara's face. The camera's like the first thing she sees in the morning. She's like, are you okay?

And she sounds like, what are you even doing in here? God! And she's like, why are you here, Shannon? She goes, pop, that was an animal in my room last night. So five in the morning, I had to, it was walking by my head. And Adam always walking by my head. And Adam always walking by my head. It was a possum, okay. You got into bed with a possum, that's why we heard it.

You've gone away from a squirrel to get in bed with a possum. So then Jen calls Ryan and she, now we see that she really is affected by this stuff, you know? And she's just learned to fake it in front of Tamra, not let Tamra show that she's hurt, but she's crying and she's crying a lot of base off, a lot of foundation sliding off that face. And Ryan does not keep the phone covered up, because last time he answered the phone,

when she was in the dark and refused to turn on her light, which led people to speculate that he was probably cheating on her right at that's called, he was in the dark and refused to turn on a light, which led people to speculate that he was probably cheating on her at that very moment. Which he probably was. Let's face it. But then again, I don't know if you would even answer. I think he would just, I think he would. That's part of the fun of cheating. Oh really?

It's a bit like that. That's the thrill of getting caught possibly, you know? Yeah. Yeah. So, I'll sending your dick pick on accident to the whole phone book, which we learned he did last week as well. I mean, he would-

That's true. Because if he was just naked in bed, he would have still answered that phone because he's one of those men on that real housewives who would want his junk. He's like a Joe Gorka type. Who'd be a gift, my dick, blurred out all you want. You know, I've got to take a shower right now

on camera. Do you think he was maybe pooping? Do you think he would be like, I don't know if I want Bravo to see me pooping? I don't want to give him mixed uses, he was cheating. So Jen is, she's telling, yeah, she's talking about, she's like, I just want a day, I want a day where they're just not digging up bones,

which is funny, because that did happen during one of our yoga classes outdoors. It was very awkward But anyway, last night was like a lot, you know, I feel like I feel like I'm sitting in a spot that feels super confusing with Tamra and there's like So many things that feel so below the fucking belt like I just don't know I just don't know. I'm like it's Tamra You've been friends with her for like six or seven years by now. You should know exactly what's going on But also the just her like devil on Tondor

is that she doesn't even know she's dropping. She's like, oh my God, all they wanna talk about are like digging up bones, like boning Ryan. And then she's like, and then like, there's so many things that are below the belt when all of this is about what's below the belt. I just love all the little things she's doing, not even knowing it.

And Ryan's like, honey, I know it seems unfair, but you should keep trying. And Jen's telling us she doesn knowing it. And Ryan's like, honey, I know it seems unfair, but you should keep trying. And Jen's telling us she doesn't even wanna tell Ryan right now cause he's gonna flip out when he hears that Tamra's claiming that he wanted to fuck her and he's gonna lose his shit. So she wants to do this to his face and not on camera. Which, you do your job, do it on camera. Well, right now I wanna see it.

And then I wanna see a show on camera. You know, come on. Yeah, she's like, you know what, this has me so stressed out, I'm just gonna eat a cupcake right now. It's official, today is a cheat day, it's a cheat day. What did I say? What did I say?

What did I say? You know what, I just really want Ryan to, like, know just like ever since I've met him, I just want him to know what's inside me. You know, surely important. As promised, that was part one and stick around, part two is coming up here on the podcast feed. If you're not subscribed, this is a great time to subscribe on whatever platform you use.

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