Watch What Crappens - RHOC, Part 2: Making a Montana Out of a Molehill?

Episode Date: July 13, 2023

It's part 2 of our epic Real Housewives of Orange County recap. We're picking up where we left off: the conclusion of the Montana vacation and the fallout from Heather's comments to Gina.Watch the recap here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/86043504See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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What happens? What happens? What happens? What happens? What happens? What happens? Hello and welcome to Watch More Crappens, a podcast about all that crap bomb bravo. We just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and if you missed the announcement on the previous episode, this is part 2 of our Orange County recap. It wound up being like a very big 2 hour episode, so we decided to split in half that way, uh, just easier to listen to. Um, if you want the whole thing on one place, go check out the episode on Patreon.

Watch for crap and Patreon.com slash watch for crap and go crap is on demand. People who support on crap is on demand level, get access to our videos a week before they wind up on YouTube And then it will be on YouTube in one big two hour chunk But otherwise if you're coming in here and you're like wait what the hell what part two? Well part one is on the podcast feed so go check that out if you're confused Otherwise welcome back. Let's get on the show so Now the women are piling into a car so half of them are gonna go fly fishing half of them are gonna go white water rafting and

It's gonna be it's like Jen Taylor and Tammer going white-ritter white river rafting and Taylor has bandanas for them And Tammer won't wear a bandana because she says her head's too small. I don't know does she I Don't know if she knows about how how bandanas work that they're kind of a one-size-fits-all, I think, you know? Yeah, but she's got a weave made out of ziplocks. Like one thing Tamra has never upgraded is her weave on their show So like you can't just put any old bandana over that it'll melt to your head So they get the hippie they get a hippie guy named Kevin Kevin and Kevin is like I'm Kevin I'm here to show you wild raft water whatever. I've got a backpack on my stomach because I'm insecure about my pouch

So let's just do this guys. Let's do it You can already tell the Kevin smells like you can just tell, he does not use deodorant. And for anyone out there who does not use deodorant also, shame on you, use deodorant, please. Okay, I'm just telling you this right now. If you think that you don't smell, it just means your friends are too polite to tell you that you reek, you reek.

So please put on deodorant, and that goes for you too, Kevin. I don't feel like we do that enough, by the way. I feel like I'm on the record a lot about muscle cars. I think so, but we don't like deodorant shame people enough. Like where deodorant people? Like that's just a, that is a must, okay? Yeah.

So, uh, Tamra's like, oh my god, this guy's like a hippie. I don't think it helps with his days, like 15 years. So I was, let's go get a rest of the hippie. What's that, what's that? Um, so then, that, he's 23 and they're like, oh my god, 15 years I was let's go to the rest of the day So then He's 23 and they're like oh my god and Jen just keeps going hey K dog You know what you do in rat K dog that's Jen's way of staying young yeah until I was like I'm actually getting nervous I'm actually I'm like you should be nervous. You're about to throw yourself down some rapids With this guy I would be fucking a risk too.

I would be nervous. And I was like, hey, K-Dog, you have a mommy yet? All right, come on, you can stay with me. I'm adopting you. That's it. So then the fly fishing people are Heather Shannon and Gina and they meet up with a guy named Butch. Because by the way, you can only be named Butch

if you're gonna teach a bunch of people how to fly fish from Orange County. So like even if his name's like John, it's like, well, my name was John until today. I want somehow my name became butch because I was told I'll be teaching you guys how to fly fair. So hi, I'm butch and Heather's like, hi, me too, honey. Me too. Heather goes, hi, I'm Heather.

So nice to meet you. Look at me interfacing with the poor. Have you ever tried a joint? It's what you put marijuana in. You roll it up like a cigarette. You know about cigarettes, right? And then you light it on fire. Enjoy.

I'm gonna make stereotypes here, but fly fishing. Is that where I'm in first class and fishing out of first class? Or is it, I'm doing regular fishing, but I'm fly because I'm high I'm also cool So if I open up the window on my private plane and hang a fishing line down to the earth Can I catch a fish or will I be sucked out of the plane which happens first? So then we cut back to the girl's way by the way She's also Heather's fanning herself.

She has like a Bordello fan. And I don't know if you saw this, the fan has written on it. I'm hot. Isn't that fabulous? It's a fan that says I'm hot because I'm physically hot, but I'm also a hot mama,

but I'm young too. That's why the fan that says I'm hot. So then we go to the girls in the raft and Taylor's like, okay guys, you're supposed to hold the stick things up here. Is that right Kevin? Are you going to tell us how to do this Kevin? Kevin, are you going to tell us anything?

Kevin's like, alright, here's what you do. Like, I'm going to tell you guys like, hold it like this and then keep your hands at distance apart down the shaft. And Taylor's like, I don't like that word, shaft. You know why? Because one time when Ryan came to my gym, he's like, I'm gonna put my shaft in. You know what?

It's hard, but you guys, some trumpet test. Tots drama. So then we go back to the, this is one of my favorite part. We go back to the fly fishing and Butch goes, okay, so for the for this We've got some waiters here for you and there goes are they cute? Oh Oh, I thought you meant like waiters like servers so there's no servers coming no just there's just rubber pants Okay, I think of course there's waiters and there's waiters

I think Diction needs to be taught a little better at the schools in Montana I was like you're such a fucking idiot God you were like just offensive on every level Like the the fact that Heather is leaning into our impression of Heather like last year Last I mean a few weeks ago when she goes on a boat and goes is there a penthouse here? And I'm's like, oh, you said waders. I thought you meant that there are waders coming to help us. Okay, got it.

Oh, and Shannon's like, wow, well, thanks for this outfit, butch, it's very flattering. So, oh my God, is that a nail? There's a nail. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, there's a nail. It was a leaf, it was a leaf. It was actually just my- it was my leg.

I thought my leg wasn't ill, but it's just my leg trembling. And Heather puts her face down close to the water and goes, Hello, teeny fish, but I don't see you. She's ridiculous. So now we go back to the white water rafting, the rapids. And Kevin's like, okay everyone, as we go through the water, I'm going to be sitting back here calling out commands for you to paddle. So it's very simple.

The two ladies in the front, Taylor and Tamara, when I say paddle, you both have to paddle at the same time. That way we go in a straight line. So we just know this is a disaster because the idea of Tamara trying to figure out how to paddle at the same time, that way we go in a straight line. So we just know this is a disaster because the idea of Tamra trying to figure out how to paddle in rapids is just never going to work out. And so now it's like the wacky part where we cut back and forth between them being wacky, the paddlers are like, oh my god, don't river. And then the people who were fly fishing are like, I can't walk, I'm falling in.

The rapids, the women on the rapids were genuinely cracking me up because like, you know, the women falling over in the river, that was like, that was like intentional. Except for Gina, Gina just like falls over for no reason. She's just standing there and she falls over. She's like, I have to call Travis. I fell over because one time I fell over when it was near me. But it's like, do not do do that Travis is not here to hear about your knees getting bumped. He will leave you. But the women who were like in the rapids, I was cracking up because they are getting thrown around. Like that is dangerous.

As dangerous and like, Tamra is not paddling at all. And Taylor is like, pedal, pedal. And Tamra is like, oh my god, that's, oh my god, that rock, that rock, that all and Taylor's like, PADDLE! PADDLE! And Taylor's like, oh my god, that rock's gonna fuck me. TAMER is just refusing to do it and screaming and they almost go into these pointy rocks, which is also funny because they have a camera man sitting on the pointy rocks because that's where the camera is. So we know, or there's a GoPro or something, but they're coming and it looks like they're going to like just completely all crash into these pointy rot,

which would have been the end of them. And you have to give credit to this show because this is one housewives show that will put them in danger. The other shows I feel like are always kind of like, this is zip lining, it's scary guys, but this one they're like, yeah, we'll let Tamer drive you in a four wheeler on dunes

and not make you put on helmets correctly and watch you roll five times. And like, so I've never gone white river rafting because it's scary to me, but like what was shot and- Hold on, hold on. Just I think we need to give a moment just for the audience to recover from the shock of that. Hold on.

But like, what was surprising to me is that like, I thought you sit in the raft, but they were sitting on the edge of the raft, and I guess maybe it was a balancing whatever, but I'm like, not only are you going through these rapids, and not only are you like being totally inept at it, but you're sitting on the very edge, you're like so easily thrown out of that thing.

And I was like, what is going, it was I was dying laughter every time they were squealing, because you knew this was so out of their real house, and they were so inept at it, and you know what Kevin was like, oh shit, this is gonna be my last day on Earth. This is, I'm done now. And also I tease you about never,

guess who else has, me, of course. I would be terrified to go on that thing. You crazy, and I think that they just assumed they were gonna be safe. They're like, we're on TV, they're not gonna put us in danger. And then the camera people are like, have fun dying. This is gonna be great TV. You know? This is how we're gonna top scandals. We don't need cheating. We're gonna kill a housewife for the first time on air. Oh my god. And like,

Tamro just was not paddling. And just they were all screaming at her to paddle. And it wasn't like she was being like trying to be funnier You're anything she was just so overwhelmed. She was like, ha, she was losing her mind. So then we get some wacky falling down with the fly fishing ladies. And then so it kind of slows down a little bit with the white water rafting.

And Taylor's like, Tamara, Tamara, look behind you. And Kevin, they had to like, blur out Kevin's crotch because his balls are hanging out. And they're cracking up long. And just like, Jen's like, oh my God, it was like purple and it looked like kind of cold and triviled. And then I was like, I'm a sense of.

Yeah, I just, I just, I just like blurred the whole rest of the scene. And meanwhile with the, the wackiness in the river, Jen's like, I'm a sense boss. I'm like, that's boss. I just, I just like blurred the whole rest of the scene. And meanwhile with the wackiness in the river Shenzhen, it's like, there's a lobster. There's a lobster there, there's a lobster. Which there's definitely not a lobster there. But she's, maybe she's not a crawfish, I'm not sure. But she's just like insisting that there's a lobster. And then Gina goes, there's lobsters in here.

Oh my god, I can't believe there's lobsters in the river. I'm like, too dumb, too dumb to be on TV. Mm-hmm, and so let's see. Now they're back at the place, getting ready for dinner. And Heather's like, Tamara, Tamara's me. Heather DuPro, your best friend. Tamara's like, I'm gonna hit her now. And she's like coming Shannon's hair and doing,

she goes, she goes, she goes, she goes, she goes, and she goes, you see me, the need help from me, from Heather DuPro, television'm gonna hit her now. And she's like coming Shannon's hair and doing Shannon's stuff. And she goes, you can even help from me, from Heather DuPro, televisions Heather DuPro. No, I'm doing Shannon's hair. You can add this to my IMBD. I'm like, it's IMDB. So they all sit down at this table and Jenna's having Red Bull and Malibu,

which sounds disgusting to me. And the waiters come by to pour water, she's like, oh, that's so funny. I thought they're bringing out pants for us. These are actual waiters now. God, I understand. And then the waiter starts pouring the water and the camera goes,

I hate that noise. I hate it. That noise took us, man. No, it's water from a pitcher. I know, it's I hate it! That noise took us me! No, I hate it. Is she not supposed to be water from a pitcher? I know. It's tap. It's terrible. Usually I like this sound. Psst! But you know what? When in Rome. Am I right?

I told Afro man he has to pour all his water into the glasses in the kitchen and then bring them out to me. She's like, it sends me over the edge. Isn't that a lot of sounds? I'm just like, no, no. How could it be, how could water going into a glass sound gross to like one of the thirstiest people who's ever been on house? Were you triggered about? It's like literally like a deeply relaxing sound, like a sound that would be played in a spot to calm you down and she's like yeah

I don't even explore it. They don't even don't even ask them like why is this traumatic for you? They just like you're a strange moving on. So Jim was like I write you guys you want to do a game to me and Travis too? Um it's called uh Peach and the Pit. Well except that with Travis I call it Matt and the pit. Well, except that with Travis, I call it mountain the pit. But so mountain the Travis, but you know, we could do peak and pit. Let's do that.

I think it was because at first I thought she said peach and pit, but I think that she actually said peaking the pit. I corrected it because it should be peach and the pit. It should be peach and the pit, but it's Gina. She did say peaking the peaking. Because like peaking pit is like peak and pit, it's just, peaking valley maybe. It's literally stolen from every other.

It's first, it's from the anti housewives reunions, right? The rose and rose orange. But then every other show does the high low thing. Gina steal from one of them. You can't steal properly. Exactly. Also, the rose and the thorn has a poetic metaphorical quality to it, it sort of contrasts up images.

You know, in high low is just like clinical, but it is what it is, but peak and pit, that's just very genome. It's just nothing. I mean, peach and pit, I like, even though people diss the pit, but it still grows the peach at the end of the day. Exactly.

I don't want to, I'm not going to pitch shame anybody. This is a pitch shaming I will not do. I will do armpit shaming with you. I will not do peach pit shaming with you. Yeah. So Shannon goes, well, I would have to say that for my peak, I would say having the opportunity that I never thought I'd have to reconnect with Tamara, despite the fact that she hasn't authentically apologized for the things that she claimed

she didn't do, we had a great talk and I have a lot of hope. And there's, that's definitely like the high of the trip. So I'm very happy. I'm a very happy person. Heather's just doing a nod and hateful eyes. You know what Heather does that like frown thing? Heather's eyes get black. Like the smokeiness comes over her eyes

and they turn all black. And then little core lines trying to run away. Oh, you see this big scary cardboard version of her mom with button eyes. This is definitely Heather is giving the face that she gave when she walked up to the clipboard hanging on the drama department of Syracuse University to see if she got a call back for anything goes.

She didn't. Okay. Okay, so I was not getting to reconnect with me, Shannon. That was not your high. I understand. I'm totally okay with that. Okay. So Heather's like, okay, okay.

Who else was gonna go? Because I'm gonna kill somebody. So Gina's like, well, I think that Cameron Shannon like Sistas, and that's why they Click, click, click, click, click. Heather definitely brought some twine and just brushed it over Shannon's face while she was sleeping, so she thought it was whiskers touching her, grazing her. Does it?

I think there's a mask in here. I thought there's a mask, there's a mask. Okay, well my high, you're gonna think this is dumb. What's marijuana? I love marijuana, I do it, so I literally was high, but my other high, my high you're gonna think this is them with marijuana. I love marijuana. I do it So I literally was high but my other high my high was shuffling shit with Gina Because that reminds you of how hard that everyone works and it takes all of these people doing all of these different jobs to give us Amazing food and beautiful lives, you know

Toilet means a cleaner. Every trash can needs somebody to take it outside. She literally says, we all have our place in this world. Some people shovel shit like Gina. Others have huge houses like me. We all have our place. And it's all because of the little people that make the big people like me so happy, so cheers, queers.

So embarrassing. I learned that on television. And they're all cringing and cameras like... This is how the other half-lips is so much you're trying to say. Yeah, I mean, I think what you were obviously what you're trying to say was, hey, you know, we sometimes we live in these like very fancy homes, we have a very privileged lifestyle and it's like, you know, it's easy to forget that like, you know, we are riding on the backs of people

who are doing hard work. And instead of just comes out like, well, thank you to the small people the little insignificant flex of humanity who make me think that's what it is so gross so gross so uh there's like okay and then now for my low okay can we bring the lights down hey lady in the Reblemack entire wig trying to try and make bison happen again not gonna happen happen. Go ahead. Not gonna have those lights. Not gonna have no dimmers. Okay. Well, that's called Malibu country, not Montana country. Okay, get with it. I'd like to thank the poor people, but not that one. Okay. Okay. So, well, poor person did have to make her wig. So thank you to that poor person. You made that lady very happy. Make my low, make it. So is that when you came into our friend group

eight years ago, Shannon or Tamara, wait. No, Shannon, Shannon. That was a time when you and I weren't getting along very well. Tamara, okay. Tamara. And then we see a clip of 24 Heather versus Tamara, where Heather's like, there's not a world where I would do something to hurt you Tamra and she goes, well, the hell not, but you're dead, and that's what you did, bitch. You walked into my gym and you said, I'm gonna fuck her. So Tom, Tamra's really been trying to make

that story light-affin for a long time. For a long time. So you guys, you know, you guys became very, really close and I felt left out and it wasn't a great year for me. I mean, you may remember a certain chair at Alfredo's restaurant anyway. Today, when I came into your room before and I was all ready to prank Shannon with more mouse stuff, and you guys didn't even

open the door to let me in. You guys were talking in the bathroom and stuff and that made me feel bad. Okay, I also have to point out that during these flashbacks, they showed a flashback to Shannon and Tamara bonding at the original dinner party, but Shannon had it her huge house. Do you remember this? Where David was being horrible,

and they caught David and Shannon being horrible to each other on the mic. Yeah, like, I'm like, David, stop arguing with me, it's the goddamn pot roast, you're right. Or whatever that was, that was a classic. Also, I'd like to point out that Tamara and Shannon teamed up together to bring down,

no, Tamara and Heather teamed up together to bring down Shannon. And literally tried to gaslight her, which is a term that's used way too much on these shows, but they literally tried to make Shannon think she was crazy. And even Heather was like, maybe we should call someone because Shannon is losing it. I think we might need to call it professional. Like they threaten to get her throne in the mental hospital. Yes, 5150. Thank. I always want to say W 49. What is it? W D 40. That's too. She got too much dust on her. Someone get me a can. Someone put oil in her crack and get her to a mental facility. ASAP.

her to a mental facility ASAP. But yeah, Heather being a victim when they tried to do that to Shannon is really fucking rich. People always forget that Shannon and Tamara were at huge odds that first season and that's why it was always strange to me that they became great friends the next season and And then I thought, okay, I'll be a one season thing because obviously they are not, they have a shaky foundation. But then they became great friends overall. And I'm always like, do you guys remember that they were mortal enemies, Shannon's first season on the show? Yes. And just Heather trying to be a victim when she has been so fucking vile cracks me up, you know, and they're showing the scenes that led up to the scenes where

she was that vile. And it's just so funny that she's trying to be a big victim. So, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Crap, Heather, please do not come in, but I mean, other than that, though, we were happy to be disturbed. So then they do show a clip of this and Heather was in the bed, but Shannon and Tammer were not in the bed. Heather's like, look at us and bed like girlfriend. No one, no one's going to be in the bed with me. Okay. So it's just going to be me sitting on your bed talking. Okay. All right. I'll just, I'll just say here and it'll be fun. You guys go in the bathroom and talk about me. So then Heather tells us, knock knock, who's there? Heather, oh, busy, story of my life.

So Tamara, Tamara tells us, she asked T'Bara flat iron what she got. Like how much does this bitch want? Other than fucking me at my gym, yeah, she's a lesbian inside. Oh, how much you attention to you? Require! Head to Dubral!

And Heather's like, well, I felt left out. No one wants to feel not included. Heather, you're not included. Nobody likes you on this show. I'm sorry. And the reason is not just because you're being bullied or anything like that. It's because you're horrible and you're a fucking snob and you have no fucking right to be this much of a snob.

You weren't even raised with this much money. You're like a new, voreesh, tacky ass lady in a mouth, okay? Walking around, bragging everything you, nobody wants to be around you. They're around you because they have to be. So why when you left this show, nobody kept talking to you, okay? So why when Gina got a summer from you, she still didn't talk to you. Nobody likes you and it's because of you, okay? Nope.

Nobody likes to not be included, which is why I have my servants Going through a separate door to their downstairs area. I like tap water. I cannot believe nobody includes me So Tamara's telling us oh, yeah Well, never said she wasn't allowed to into a couple of shit on that. Like that's jealous. But Tamara has been, this is where I start switching a little because I'm like, but Tamara, you are purposely making Heather feel I do think that they're not like this,

but everything I do think that they are, they are kind of clicky. So, you know, and when Heather did come knock at the door and say, hey, do you need any help? Tamara did make an IMDB joke about Heather and then slightly laughed at her with Shannon. Like, yeah. You are purposely doing that, so.

So, Tamara's like, whatever. Can we all just be friends? And Heather goes, no, I'm telling you this is a Heather issue. You guys did nothing wrong. This is my issue that I'm working through. Which by the way, I thought was actually a fairly gracious thing to say. Like, it wasn't you guys, I'm saying,

this is what I work through because I'm like, I'm sensitive to this kind of stuff. But they don't want to hear it. They just were like, what? I was kind of like, yeah, I was going to. And Shenna goes, she has that thing where she's really pissed off where she smiles and goes, well, I didn't know how to curl my hair.

So I don't know how to curl my hair. So I don't know, I guess that makes me the villain here. I guess I can see my teeth. I know my teeth. I'm not. So I guess I'm just a teeth. Oh, my teeth. Oh, my teeth. Okay, so I guess I'm just a bad guy here. I'm just, just someone who has flat hair who's never curled up before in her life

and asked a dear friend, who I want to have more time with rather than you, just curl my hair. I guess that makes me bad, I guess that. Well, I'm telling you, you did nothing wrong. That's what I'm saying. It's a me thing. And Gina's like, oh my god, you didn't get an invite

to a blow-drying session? That would just pit. That is just a weird hatha. I don't want to hear from you from Gina. Gina, who like every single season comes conjures up a reason why the person she's closest with, she doesn't like anymore, and then pushes them away. And they spend the entire season being like,

what the fuck Gina It happened with Emily it happened with Shannon now. She's doing it to Heather So I don't want to hear you rolling your eyes at Someone who's like feels a certain sort of way about someone because you are the last one to talk about it You're right. You're absolutely right and I we've been seeing this coming from Gina the whole season where she's like I fucking hate Heather now I'm turning on her and she's just been waiting for the moment. And she's doing it this episode where Heather literally

crawled into the tractor with her to cry with her about Travis and cranted, maybe didn't like the advice she gave you, but it wasn't mean spirited advice. She was trying to like be your girlfriend. Maybe she doesn't know how. I'm not giving her that. I'll give you that. But she doesn't have to hold. She's doing it. She just doesn't get at, I'm not giving her that, I'll give you that, but she doesn't every season.

She's doing it, she doesn't get it a really shitty time. It's like she's ready to get rid of Heather, so she's gonna use this because she feels the winds changing against Heather, so she's gonna go with it. But Heather's actually been very kind to you, and she's been very kind to you, literally in this very episode,

you're a fucking ungrateful asshole of a human being now. Gina has like some sort of like paranoia because she's always, the root of it, every single time she says, I kinda feel like she's not a good friend to me. So like, me, I don't wanna be friends with it. Like she literally did that to Shannon all last season, which was totally unjustified.

Now she's doing it to Heather. She did it, like, I'm saying the same thing again, but like she did it to Emily a few seasons ago, and I don't remember what her relationship was with Bronwyn, but I'm just gonna assume she did it to Bronwyn too, cause I was seeing her for the first time. She always hit it Bronwyn, okay, never mind. I was like, did she do it to someone else?

I want a fourth one here. I know the comedy is three's and five's, but like I really want a fourth piece of evidence. So let's see, so, Tamara, I think she's just one of those people who doesn't ever wanna do anything for anybody else. She never wants to have an event. She never wants to do, you know, this show is like about people having parties.

She never wants to do that, unless she has like makeup to sell it, somebody else's house. And I think, you know, Heather's thing about like, why don't you ever call me? Like I text you, but then you don't text me back. That was the exact same problem she had with Emily and the same thing she had with Shannon.

She's just, I think anybody expecting her to think about anything but herself. That's when she's like, fuck you, I won't be your friend. And now I'm gonna, not only not be your friend, but I'm gonna make everybody hate you. Yeah, whenever she gets called out on her shit, she then goes and launches a stealth campaign to kind of destroy someone's reputation

and push them out. It's bullshit, but maybe she's also uncomfortable with people who like her. That could be that too, which is kind of sad. I'm not giving her that. I'm not giving her that on this one. I think she's being an asshole. And here's why I'm not giving it to her

because I'm really pissed off at her for putting me on Heather's side. Because I hate this. I don't like being on Heather's side. But on this one, on my other side, team Heather's side because I hate this. I don't like being on Heather's side, but on this one on my other side, team Heather's side. I have her side. So anyway, they're eating elk.

And then Heather walks away to go stretch her back because she heard her back. By the way, I'm sorry I keep interrupting you, but I can't help it because Tana was so fucking rude. She's like, what is this, bison, eh? Like you guys are such trash. Could you like be kind to the poor fucking people

who have to deal with you animals on this ramp? Yeah. Jesus. Yeah, I'm sorry. Bison is delicious, stupid face. So, and on top of that, by the way, an animal died for your food, so just eat it. So, I don't know if it's just a logic, yes?

Ben, I love it. I love your avatar. I love your avatar- logic test. Ben, I love it. I love it. I love your avatar ass today. You know what, you better think that Bison, bitch. Well, I just feel like Bison have had a tough journey. Okay. So, as long as we're not trying to kill excessive bison. So, as long as one is dead, you might as well honor it.

So, you know, honor the bison. You know that no one must them in the parade. Everyone, no one takes them seriously in the parade. And they're like, we're part of this community too. Don't leave the bison out. We're like, okay, come let's hug. You know, let's all learn to get along. Yes, stupid face.

So, not you, Tamra. But I deserve it. I'm in a roughitude, 37 times. Imagine if I just like attacked you in the middle of the podcast, like stupid face. So Heather walks away to stretch because she heard her back, she's been traveling too much poop the day before. And so she walks away.

She's also losing, which is what Heather does. Heather sees, she's pissed everybody off and now she gets up from the table and leaves to let them not continue being pissed off. And she also, she may be booking a role on Chicago EMT or something as a patient with back problems, so she's just getting into character. So Shannon's like, is that the name? The Chicago Fire, Chicago Police, and isn't there like a medical one?

Is Chicago medical? Is that what it is? Literally, literally don't know. I don't know if you can watch those shows. So Shannon is like, why do those shows exist? So Shannon, I love House. I love House. I love the old sausage.

I love House. He's such a bitch. I love House. I'm surprised they haven't rebooted it. Reboot House. So Shannon, I discovered your mystery pain. The cause of your mystery pain, you're fucking stupid. That's why I'm here. So Shannon is like, so now that Heather's gone,

Shannon starts to whip herself into a frenzy, which is her favorite trait. She goes, well, you know, you and her, we're never as close and you and Zyra are a tamer, I don't know what she's talking about, and she's like, nuh-uh! So Shannon goes, so she wasn't replaced. She absolutely wasn't replaced.

You know what, I absolutely think that Heather sees some sort of competition here. And if you look at my, your history with her, it's a lot of, is my ceiling going to be higher? Is my, uh, servants' quarter going to be larger? Is my subterranean movie theater gonna be filled with more Richard Marx's? And there's something not positive that she has for me. That's true, but you're also the same way with her. Do you remember last year when Heather's like, oh come look at my house and Shannon was like, oh, well isn't that nice? Oh, what a feature. An air conditioner that's not in a window. Wow, isn't that something? Oh, your chandelier actually goes up and down when you press the button. That is some woohoo! Wow! Is that Afro-man slicing the prime rib? Well, well.

So Heather comes back and she's like, wow, isn't it crazy? How those little string lights can make anything look decent? Even if it's just a shit box like this, this ranch. Who do we in a porta-body right now? But it looks nice enough to keep dead whatever this is. Dead bisexual deer. Because of string lights. I will eat this dead bisexual deer

because as my children are part of the LGBTQA community, I honor all deer that are part of it too. I support biceps. You name she's like. Without them. honor all deer that are part of it too. I support biceps. So, um, an insect. Without them, how could we have such nice dinner and such such a not fabulous place? Cheers to string lights, Mr. Jean.

So, Heather, Heather, I'm Heather. Well, I just want to be honest, I'm going to show my top teeth here a little bit. Well, I smile. I'm sitting here and I'm getting very angry at what you said The ultimate low of your trip was so you misunderstood Sharman's cuz out the lowest part of your entire trip. I'm just gonna ask So Heather's like well because there was no other low, you know, you know, well except for what happened me and Taylor

because there was no other low. You know, well, except for what happened to me and Taylor. And maybe, which is so funny, because at first I thought she was, she was gonna turn it into a compliment. Like, we had so many good things I had to find something. But she was, but there was no other, well, except for what happened to me and Taylor and Tim, because you had a few huge fights,

you told her to suck off! And I just loved that this was worse than that stupid IMD fight where they had her career was. She had that monologue, that epic, heathered to grow monologue, and still somehow not being in the bathroom with Tamra and Shannon, and still worse. She goes, I didn't tell her to fuck off, I said fuck you. So there's a very big difference in that camera. She's well, I don't know, I just... I don't remember my lines. Say it again, Ben.

I'm an actor, I remember my lines. Yeah. I don't know why I didn't go back there. It's the Ben. I'm an actor I remember my lines. Yeah. I don't know why I didn't go back there. It's the first thing I thought of because that happened today. That's why. That just happened today. And Shannon's like doing that thing where she's waving her arms. She's like, oh, so you wouldn't want to go back to the true low.

Well, you know what? Let's go put a low on Shannon and Tamara, who after two and a half years, which is one year year are finally getting long This girl and I we never thought we'd be sitting across the table from each other again I'm pissed I am pit. I have I have been honest with you And I told you what we went through our hard time and that I would cry for days for days about about certain things that happened. And something so positive is finally happening, yeah, but a year. I was like, I'm just telling you how I felt. I'm sorry. I shared it. I'm sorry. I ever tried

to join the cast of anything goes. And Heather's like, you know, this is just, it's not just one moment. It was the final show of so many little things. It's like, you know, this is just, it's not just one moment. It was the final show of so many little things. It's like, if someone took all my credits and IMDB and put them together, you have a large career. And that's what this is. Lots of little microaggressions turning into a big microaggression. And then she tells us, she's like, yeah, but the thing is it wasn't just this moment. It was the final straw of so many things that have been happening over the past two days.

And then we see clips of Tamra suddenly love bombing Shannon like crazy and like blowing up Heather. It's not her head. It's not her head. It's not her head. It's not her head. It's not her head. Yeah.

So, and now Heather's concerned about like where her relationship stand and as a deeply insecure person myself, I get it. So Heather's like, all I said is that you didn't do anything and it was just a bad time for me and Tamra as friends and I didn't think of the ramifications of what that would mean hold on one second Gina a ramification is like a consequence a consequence to some you're still okay a consequence is like drop a ball on the ground and it falls that is a consequence. Ramifications like another, it has nothing to do with the dogs. It's an animal.

That's an animal. No. No. No. No. No. It's like a goat but it's got horns and then like, it takes doors down to the nose. Are we eating a goat with horns for dinner? I would like to toast to this by-sun. So others like, you know, no.

First of all, she's giving a disgusted frown, which is hilarious. So, she's like, first of all, all I said was, you didn't do anything. It was a bad time for me and Tamera's friends, but I didn't think about the ramifications, and I didn't think about how saying it out loud would make you feel about it. She's like, oh, well, I guess, thank you. and think about how saying it out loud would make you feel about it. And it's like, oh, well, I guess, thank you. I guess we're not gonna have a fight right now. And we're not gonna threaten the lives of my family

and my boyfriend. Okay, I guess this is over now, fine. So Tim was like, okay, his turn. And Taylor's like, okay, I'll go. I was like, oh, here we go. She's like, well, my law was a confusion with you and I, however, because I was like, I was like, well my, my law was a confusion with you and I however, because like I was excited about the movie and you were so kind to come help me. I just wanted to say I'm really sorry for a bad man out there.

And this is who I am. Okay, you said to me, will you help me? And I, you know, I have all this stuff going on. I'm launching these kids, I'm packing them. My garage is a disaster or so I've been told by my servants. I haven't been in there for like three years. They just bring the car around to the front. But anyway, so much was going on.

So I said, you know what, open those three gates out of this community. I am going to Taylor's house and I am going to help her be in a movie that is not produced in Hollywood. But then just listen please in the future instead of telling everyone in our friend group talk to me about that. How about that? I'm just like, I'm not going to go for a gun or not. I'm such an asshole. I'm so busy but I came to help you with your little tiny project. Like how the stil doesn't fucking get it, she's such an asshole.

And by the way, you know that Heather still does, you can really tell that Heather doesn't like Taylor because if Heather cared about Taylor, she would have invited Taylor to her house and made Heather, made Taylor drive through the three gates and then give her the tour like, oh, okay, let's go into my room. That's reserved for people practicing acting for in essential movies. Okay, we can go there and you can look at all the other rooms as we walk through there. She didn't even want to even care to impress Taylor with her house. Well, she has been doing that.

Remember last season when she went to Gina's? I think she's doing that thing that a lot of rich people do. Like I know, and Junior League back in my old past today is the Junior League Remember last season when she went to Gina's, I think she's doing that thing that a lot of rich people do. Like I know a junior league back in my old past today is the junior league ladies on Christmas would be like the day before Christmas, Christmas Eve is a snow into a lot of us. We're gonna go deliver things to poor people.

And so they would get lists of meaty family, which is a nice thing to do, right? So I don't wanna take away from that. But it did sometimes feel like, oh my God, you know, it's like, let's drive this fancy suburban, you know, up to someone's house, all these people dressed in really expensive clothes and she's to give like a basket of apples to somebody

and like some socks from the Walmart, you know? It's just like this, that's kind of how Heather is. She's like, I'm gonna go to Gina's house. This is what I'm doing for the Junior League. This day, you know, I'm gonna go see how the Taylor Half lives. Yeah, so Jen says, the high for me is like so many things. I'm going to meet new women, forging new friendships,

creating new friend of me, enjoying new toxic experiences. The lows were super low. I hate that I'm such a trigger for you, Gina. I hate that you are too dumb to appreciate me for who I am and just keep yelling at me. And Gina's like, I got that. It's complicated for me because I feel being a, I feel being a, that you feel being a,

it's like a classic Gina. She's bringing it back. I feel being a, to her. She's bringing it back for her being a victim. And this is so fucking her. And every fight she ever has, she's the it back. I feel bad to her. I don't mean it back to her being a victim And this is so fucking her in every fight she ever has. She's the mean one She's the aggressor and then she turns herself into this like oh, yeah No, I feel bad that you feel bad. You're being terrible to her. You don't get to yeah the victim moment You're the one being a jerk here. So Tamara's like hey batch

Do you miss your life with match? Because no, no, it has nothing to do with Matt. Like when you think of like this one life and the whole road gets pulled out from underneath you, like, I didn't have time to process, but I put a smile on my face and I didn't talk about it. Okay, it was like really hard. And she has a crowd, I want you to work through this Gina because you have someone who's with you right now. And I I worry I worry about how much longer he's going to Dot dot dot Heather you want to step on this trap? Oh, you know what he's gonna put up with that That's what I was gonna say. That's what I said to word to I say he's not gonna put up with this and Do you go don't say the act and don't you say how much longer he's gonna put up with that?

Huh? How do you have a put up with what these are my feelings? And he's got to put up with it and Heather just has that look on her face like oh really You've been on my plane She's like but Doris had 75% of that sense and I just said the last few words and I get all the blame fine Others been around long enough to know what's happening. She's like it's my turn I tried doing all the groundwork with this poor person, but it just goes to show you, no matter how many sizes of the same pink, pink,

leather, jean jacket type thing, you can bring to a person's house. They will always turn on you anyway. You'll feel the same way. You'll feel the same way. Yeah, yeah. Commissions. Here comes one right now.

So, Gina's like, I'm surprised that Heather does seem to have much concern for me about last night. It's like very disappointing. Like, I'm like a real person. Like, don't say things like that. It's very harmful. And she talks about how, like, oh, now she's questioning if Heather's a real friend or not,

even though Gina was the one who ghosted Heather like for the entire summer. Enough how to you, Gina. summer, enough out of Eugene. I've had enough of this hypocrisy. Yeah. So, this was the excuses Gina needed to jet the fuck away from Heather. I cannot believe I'm ending a scene like this, but my final note on this scene is team Heather. Dot dot dot question mark.

Yes, I think in this case, I am actually a teamheather. So then packing, now they're all leaving and we don't even get like a full packing montage. We just get a little packing and then it cuts to Shannon going, God, that smells. And then they play, we just like zip back to Orange County the next day and there's like this retro music playing

and Emily's washing windows and Jen's wiping a counter and Shannon's transplanting a house plant and Gina's making P. P. N. J for like, you know her that the six children are house now I don't know I'm not gonna make fun of this necessarily because I don't know what it's like to make peanut butter and jelly on mass for a Brew of children when you have to do it every single day But my first thought was like wow she is just slapping that slapping that peanut butter down like on mass for a brew of children when you have to do it every single day. But my first thought was like, wow, she is just slapping that peanut butter down. Like it was just like, it was like care,

I was like, is that just what you have to do when you just have a cloud of children? You just gotta like throw it down and just hope that ever happens. That's what you do. That's what you do. That's what you do. You just slap it down on the bread.

And like there's so many kids, like she's got six pieces of bread lined up and she's just like, flap, flap, flap, flap. But you know, it's like we were talking, we talked about peanut butter sandwich as a little while ago where somebody can just have one peanut butter sandwich. Who eats like that?

I've never had one peanut butter sandwich and been satisfied in my entire life. Now I have weight issues and binge eating issues and like all that, but still, I don't think anybody's just like, I never saw anybody at lunch have one little peanut butter sandwich and they were fine. So that's why I think Gina is putting 19,000 calories on there. She's right. She's actually being a good mom and being like, nobody wants peanut butter so they're going to get it on whole wheat and they're getting 19,000 calories of peanuts.

And she also, by the way, like this is, this is, this is the peanut butter and jelly making of someone who has reached their limit. Like something broken her today, she's like, I don't wanna make another fucking peanut butter and jelly sandwich for these kids ever again. She just looked over it.

So, meanwhile, Tamron and Eddie go for a walk, they're gonna go for a little hike and catch up a little bit. So Tamron is telling him, like, yeah, Montana was cool. I think you'd really like it. They may have to eat a goat with horns. And Eddie is like, yeah, well, while you're gone,

I find last cut fitness, it's closed, finished all the papers, it's done. It's all over. I feel like there's a burden off our shoulders now. And it's like, yeah, you there's a burden off our shoulders now. And so like yeah you know what the office is ready now so you gotta go to the gym because you know what like it's hard to gym with lots of gym okay fine but we still have a very successful business and we're expanding to your tea products and like anything you need to go up in the office okay up in the air I don't have time for it oh my god you

know what Ryan came into my office and he was like, hey, I have an appointment with him. I'm got a fat cat. So then she sees a patch of dry grass. And she's like, this is what Montana looks like. I'm like, you were literally looking at fashion island mall down below you. This is one of my tasks.

So, Tama is like. There's one hill and then behind it is the nuclear power plant. This is not what Montana looks like. I know so she's like, yeah, you know like me and Shannon got along great I was just like old times and like Jenna was a little bit in the hot seat She says that like as if it was a some force of nature like you put her in the hot seat And then he's like why? Because I started it on fire. I see I put some ladder fluid on the seat, and I started down fire, that's why.

But you know what, somebody told me that she backed my end and tried to jump for the first time and he put it in there, and he said, I'm gonna fuck her. Okay, Tamara, this is how I know you're fucking lying. Because this is the first time you're telling Eddie this. Teddy didn't know. Eddie didn't know.

Eddie's like your BFF. Like you would have told him this a second you heard it. I ain't believe in a fucking thing from you. Exactly. And I really, you know, I was at a get together at his house. And one of his friends told me that he has a reputation of going after married women and to keep an eye on my wife. And I thought, come on.

So by the way, worked with her husband. You worked with Tamra's husband, sir. You literally knew Tamra's husband while he was married to Tamra. That's true. Is this all in my head? Like, why are you ready? Why is Teddy getting off here?

But why is Teddy getting off also? Can we blame her for something? By the way, what I said before about Teddy, I take it back. Fuck Teddy. Okay, I take it all back. So Tamra says, then to know that he's not even been faith up, and he's like, I just like, already.

She's like, oh, you didn't know? He's already cheated on a bitch, and then he goes, and she's still with him. Yeah, she makes excuses for them, and then Tamra tells us, like, as if this is like, she's just such a virtuous person. She goes, if I see someone who's not with the right person, I fucking lose my mind. This reminds me of Brexon Vicki, I'll love her again. And then we get, of course, a flashback to what I can't believe is 11 years ago, that season finale party, where Tamara's like getting into a fight with Brooks, and then she tells Vicki,

stop letting him tell you what to think. And Vicki goes, hey, all the time, what's up, everyone? Hey, yeah. Hey, man, what's up, what's up, what's up, everybody? Like she gets right in her face. That was a good one. Yeah, it was a really good one. It wasn't that the one where, isn't that also the one where Terry Dubrow says something

like, he is a penis about David Bidor. No, I think that David, because Shannon wasn't there yet. Shannon didn't join until She wasn't she wasn't in the Brook season Shannon wasn't well. She wasn't in that Brook season. Oh Wow, how weird it's crazy. I think she has crazy year or two after that So then we go to Camera we come back to them and cameras like yeah, well, you know that I believe you could change. Like maybe if you find the right part there,

the stuff like that. And he's like, serial cheaters don't change. Once a cheater, always a cheater. I'm like, listen, if you're gonna try and sell this whole, your son Ryan has changed so much from being a racist transphob, he was five minutes ago, and now he's just like a humble little cowboy

because he watched one episode of Yellowstone and went to work on a ranch somewhere to get some puse say. Can be fucking break. You gotta let other people try to change too. Even though I agree with him too. I'm all over the place in this. I don't think Ryan's gonna change.

I think he's gonna totally cheat on Jen. Yeah, that is absolutely correct. So now we go up to Los Angeles, because Annabelle, Emily's daughter Annabelle, has a modeling session at the Joe and Jack's brand. So she goes and she's like Annabelle, which is like sort of like crazy and fun and funny, but also disaffected and doesn't care.

And Emily just sort of talks for a while about what it's like to have a kid who's like a model. It's like a deeply uninduced. It's really stupid and boring. Yeah, it's really bad. Like, that's going on. Some people are begging for you to get fired every year.

You're going to need to do more than this. Yeah. You can't miss the cast trip and then follow up with this. Now it wasn't her fault that she missed the cast trip, but I'm just saying like, if you know you've missed the cast trip, like your neck scene's gotta be something, like you've gotta like, ramba better. Yeah, I've gotta do something better. Like nobody wants to see Annabelle.

Like no one cares about Annabelle's modeling career. No one's pretending that this dillard's job or whatever Annabelle just got is like high fashion. Okay, Joey and whatever your name is, lady. Joey's the brand. Joey and whatever your name is, lady joins the brand. Joey and Jacks, yeah. So then we go to Ryan's house, Ryan and Jen's house, and there's a new golden into,

there's a new golden town, and she's feeling good. It's a new golden retriever in town named Maverick. Maverick. So, Jen's like, oh my god, Ryan, I have so much I wanna tell you. You don't know. I don't know where to begin. There were definitely highs.

They can't fire, for instance. I'm like, Jen, you know what? You don't have to keep on doing, like, peak and pit, you know? And Ryan's like, wow, how rad is that? And then, by the way, the dog Maverick is so funny because Maverick comes up onto the sofa and lies on the sofa and has this look on his face like, tell me everything.

I wanna know. Just tell me, I just lay it on me. Yeah, he's doing that look like where he's kind of looking back at them. Like, don't you wanna bet my bet right now, but he's like so engaged. And they're good dog parents, you can tell. Yeah, Lotto Maverick is loving it.

Like there's some people, some people just live for uninteresting gossip. They're like, so girl, I heard you went to CVS, tell me everything that happened. I want, just lay it on me. Like that's what Lotto Maverick is. Oh, ma'am. So she's like, well, there were highs, there were lows,

we're in the valley, it was beautiful. But then they started talking about your past, in my past, and I'm really glad you're sitting down, Ryan, because Tamra literally said to me that she was told that you walked into the gym and pointed at her and said, I'm gonna fuck her. And Maverick's like, girl. I'm gonna need a tennis ball sin because this is a lot.

And oh trust, Maverick has a fucking tennis ball. So there's never a golden without a tennis ball between his paws. Okay. So Ryan has a totally guilty response. He's like, she's serious or she's joking. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Oh, look, can I just say, who cares if you walked into the gym and said, I'm gonna fuck her?

So what? He's allowed to say that. Who cares? This was before he was with Jen, right? The first time he walked into the gym he said, I'm gonna fuck her. Who doesn't say that, at least to themselves when they walk into a gym? I mean, that's how I pick a machine. I say, I'm gonna fuck him. And then I walk into a jam. I mean, that's how I pick a machine.

I say, I'm gonna fuck him. And then I walk towards that machine. Do I think it's gonna happen? No. Am I gonna sexually harass that person? No, I'm not gonna sexually harass him. But in real life, in my mind, I'm going to. That's the only thing that's gonna get me onto the stair climber.

And maybe he didn't know that Tim Rome was married. How about that? He probably did, though. So, Jen's like, yeah, so this comes from Heather. And it first sounds like Heather Debrou, but then there's other Heather, one word. Other metapod, other trying to get on with you. Other Heather, TM. So other Heather, who's trying to be on the show,

but we haven't seen her, I don't think. And so then we find out, Jen tells us, Heather Amin is a friend of Tameras who I met through Cut Fitness. She's also a sister to Ryan. So I kind of feel like there was a sizzle reel at some point of trying to make a Vanderpump rules show out of Cut Fitness because there's a lot of messiness that has just emerged from Cut Fitness

after all these years. It took us 10 years to finally get some messiness, but apparently there was like a whole subculture of people just fucking and gossiping in that place. I mean, it's only three people because that's how many clients there are there, but still, it's a lot. Well, I just googled it and it says,

introducing Heather Amin, Real Housewives of Orange County, season 17. So I guess she will be coming. Wow. And she's a life coach. A life coach. Life coaching and concierge management services 17 so I guess she will be coming Wow, and she's a line coach Life coaching and Conceures management services for athletes and professionals at VTOL

So you know this girl knows what she's doing and Tamara is not just coming back for herself She's recasting the show because that's how Tamara runs a ship, okay? So she is gonna bring on yet another person this season, so good for her. So anyway, she tells us kind of the story. She's like, well, I met Heather through cut fitness. She was really close with Ryan. They were like sister and brother.

And then I became close with Heather when I started dating Ryan and then a cast of Tamara telling us, we were pretty much the new Trash Amiras until things fell apart. And then we cut back to Jen saying, she knew all the ins and outs of Ryan and started feeling like she wanted to protect me or tell me certain things here or there. And so she started dropping all these little dimes but not ever the whole story and then she would make me swear that I won't say anything to Ryan about what she's saying about Ryan. And then it made me question the man I'm with. So we parted ways. I was like, girl, his best friend was telling you what a piggy was. And you dumped your best

friend to stay with the piggy guy. Yeah. That's a bad sign. Also, I'm like kind of obsessed with Heather. I mean, full name. Her full name on Twitter is Heather. Google Louisa. Google Louisa, I mean, I mean, that is great. Heather, Google Louisa, I mean, oh, that's a great hyphenate. I mean, Google Louisa. Google Louisa, I mean, like that is a hyphenate

and all hyphenates. So, so Ryan is going to, he's like, I'm going to tell Eddie that none of this is true. This isn't true. And Jen's like, I'm having a lot of thoughts. I was like, I knew the day I would come out and have thoughts. And there's things I could say, but I love her and Eddie so much that I'm just biting my tongue. So now Jen's acting like she has some dirt on Tamra.

And Ryan goes, well, what's next? I mean, is there going to be like a bunny in the pot? Faddle, fatal attraction reference. And Jim's course, because he has to make it, oh, she's only saying that because she must be obsessed with me. Right. I also know you're fucking lying, Ryan. It's like, oh, what?

A woman said, I did something inappropriate. She must be a fucking psychopath that just wants to fuck me. This guy's a pig. So Jen's like, and then she brought up Senator Dick Pick, like LOL, and he's like, oh, you are kidding me. I mean, you were like, ha, he hit the entire dress book like a dumbass.

I mean, it's so crazy because it was to you, and you could read it, and you knew it was to you, because no one else could get a dick pick from me where it says, I miss you, because they've never been with me. Don't you understand this logic? If I send a dick pick to someone that says, I miss you, it could only belong to you because you're the only person I've been with, right?

So is Heather the one that got the dick pick? Yes. Heather, I mean, she's the one who got the dick pick. So she's like, well, there's a lot of sick twists that's going on here, Ryan, and it's gross. And he's like, yeah, jealousy, it's a bitch. I'm like, oh, Ryan. But then what is Ryan's deal?

Like if Ryan is just a player, and he likes being married people only, and that's like his, what do you call his kink, then why would he move in with a woman who's just divorced or divorcing and has all those kids and stuff? It seems like he wouldn't want to get into that unless he was like, I don't know, wanting to get serious or, I don't know.

What do you think? So I have no idea. So Jen says, the one person who doesn't get a pass is Tamara. I'm so let down and bummed, I told her. I said, no more words. I don't want to do this anymore. Just actions.

You show me. If you want to be a friend, you show me. You want to go forward. I'm your girl. You want to go back. I'm not your girl. Yeah. And she's like, you know what, but Ryan seriously, no more dick pics for you. Okay. I got to chain you up from this crazy ass life you live. I guess I got to get knocked up or something and keep you. I was like, Oh my God. Can you not, Gem, you are, don't, don't, you're not my children for that purpose. So then he's like, well, we can practice. And then of course, Maverick is like, I want in and Maverick climbs all over them. So now we get a Gina's house and her son, Suth came out.

So he's going to get a visit from the tooth fairy. And I noticed on the staircase, like I feel like ever since Gina left Matt, we have not seen as much of her signature Marshalls interior design, but it's back because when her son went up the staircase to go to sleep, I noticed that there was a sign in the stairwell that just said New York,

and it was written in Marshall's font, like in the gather font, but it said New York. And it was written in Marshall's font, like in the gather font, but it said New York. That is a thing. New York. It's not a big term New York. It's nothing of the nothing that speaks of New York. It's just a sign that says New York. Yeah.

That's the best signs. So kitchen. Fireplace. Just gets right to the point. You know, so they joke about this tooth fairy thing because the kids like, I'm going to get money dollars for this tooth. I'm sorry. $20. And he's like, that's how much I get at dad's house. Oh, that's so shady. And you know, Gina's just going to start like pulling her own teeth and leaving them under pillows at Matt's house too. By the way. So they start talking about the trip and Gina's like,

you know, usually like my friendships are easy and I have very few extremely close friendships where people can pass that certain boundary, but Heather's one of those people so that like really eats me up to have issues with Heather. What are your friendships? How are your friendships easy? You literally have had this issue three times in a row.

Season-long issues. This is the third time it's happened. They're easy or you get rid of them, you know? They're easy and only about you or you get rid of them. They're easy because you don't ask them questions. You don't call them. You just end your life.

She's like, you know, like, first she says that it's like a one way relationship with me. And then I'm like, okay, but I said I'm sorry. And then I told her I'd work on it. And then I did work on it. And now we're on like Montana. And like Tamer started talking about gender fair and I got really upset and I went to call you and then Heather took my phone and said, oh my god, I shouldn't be sharing these things

with you. And I was like, blah, blah, blah. And then with the bug house, I didn't call you. Cause I had to make me feel like I couldn't even call you. And then I didn't even like text me a call me. Like, if I can't call you, the way that she texts me. And she's sitting on Timber's lap eating pizza saying, it's not being high on marijuana.

You cannot be mad at Heather. There's one that have a fun time on this vacation that you keep on having these stupid meltdowns. And they start, they show a flashback of Heather and Tamra eating pizza. I'd be like, it's hot. The pizza's hot. And then it cuts to Gina sitting in a corner of the house just crying by herself. Everyone's having the time of their life and just crying in the corner and no one's

paying attention to her. And she's like, you know what? I don't want to say it felt calculated. I was like, what is she, what do you mean it felt calculated? She tried to help you and then she wouldn't have fun. And so now it meant she was really dishing you. Tina, you don't even make sense. Like your arguments don't even make any fucking sense.

If she's your friend, can you give her the benefit of the doubt that maybe she like, didn't fully understand the dynamic that you and Trevor had, like maybe she overstepped, but like it was definitely not a calculated, oh she's trying to tear apart you and Trevor, a Trevor, like come on, get a grip. Travis. Travis, Trevor, it's all the same.

So Travis, he's like, but obviously clearly Heather has listened to you a lot over the years because she knows that you call Travis too much and she knows that you're relying on her too much. She's like, Gina says that she's never expressed any of these feelings. Gina, we've watched you express these feelings now for years and I don't take that away from you because those are pretty rough feelings. Like what Gina went through is rough.

Terrible. Terrible. Terrible. Terrible. Terrible. So she should express the feeling, but she's like, I've never dealt with, I've never expressed any of these feelings. But you, you have and she's been there and and like listen to you and talk to you through them.

But also not like to hold that shit against her. If you're gonna come for a head or come for, or over something real, there's plenty to come for a head about. Yeah, I think that like ultimately, it's like this should be, you need to be talking to professional about this, not just playing it all on your boyfriend. So Gina's like, she's like, I was exhausted,

I was emotionally trained, and in the next night, she started talking about you, and I was like, how much can, and she was like, I was exhausted, I was emotionally trained and in the next night She started talking about you and I was like how much can and she was like how much can Travis take and like something like that And I got fucking pissed like honestly, should I like not talk to you about these sort of things? Should I like should I am I doing too much and he's like no you you absolutely should talk to me about it But maybe once a week how about we do it just like once a week, set up once an hour, how about that, you know? But he's actually like very chill. He's like, he tells us that, you know, like she has something very traumatic happen to her

and like she's done a good job of coming to terms with it and like it's hard sometimes that he has to hear it over and over again, but like, because no one wants to hear about the X over and over again, but at the same time, you know, like, I'm her person, and if I'm going to be her person, I want to be able to hear things and like, help her. And it was like really adorable and sweet about it. Well, he was, and he's also no picnic at the beach, either.

This guy, I mean, this guy was married, and he's having a really sloppy divorce. I don't know if he's even divorced yet. Like, there's a lot going on with him and then a lot of rumors online about what that was about and why he won't sign divorce papers and all of that which I haven't really confirmed anything. But, and I really didn't look him up because he seemed like really nice

and really good for her that he's like, but that's what I'm here for is to listen to your drama. I'm like, I'm trying to help you and I've gone through divorce too so I know what that's like. So lay it on me. Yeah. And so she's like, but yeah, you know,

like you don't get it, like when the rug is pulled out from under you, like I feel like the bottom's gonna fall out and you're just gonna leave too. And he's like, look at me. I'm not standing on a rug. I'm too fat for a rug. I'm like, the rug's not going anywhere, I'm too fat. You're stuck with me. She was, standing on a rug. I'm too fat for a rug. I think the rug's not going anywhere. I'm too fat. You're stuck with me. Travis is my person and the fact that he doesn't even know that it's like a

little disturbing for me within a friendship. And if you knew me on a deep level, you would know it. Oh my god, I can't say I want people to it. She's the worst. Oh, like so. I'm glad this is so conflicting because I'm happy to see her find somebody that she can be happy with. But I feel like she's probably not really that happy with him. She's just kind of settling. But then I don't know. There's so much going on here. But one thing I keep coming back to is that Gina's kind of being an asshole in the situation. That's how it ends. That's my final thought. Gina's an asshole. Yeah, she is. And so that's where it leaves off. And we're going to see what happens with their friendship. It's going to devolve, and yeah, great season so far,

having so much fun. So anyway, that was basically it, everyone. So thanks everyone for being here, thanks for listening. And we will catch you on the next episode. Bye, everyone. Ma-ing! Watch what crap ends would like to think it's premium sponsors.

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