Watch What Crappens - RHOC: Shari-ng is Caring!

Episode Date: January 7, 2021

On this week's Real Housewives of Orange County, Braunwyn continues to drift from Sean and his phone while Elizabeth opens up more about her childhood. Oh, and did you hear that Shannon's boy...friend has a drinking problem now??? NEW HIP!Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Watch What Crapins Add Free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. Get ready for a double load of Queen of Hearts. It's me, Jujubee, and I return to guide sexy singles through some ronchy blind dates. Cameras off. Voice only. Launching during pride. Queen of Hearts takes Miami by storm, with Daeders' Cuppe from Tampa Bayes, Just Chas, and Brittany Brave to name a few. Follow Queen of Hearts on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to WatcherCrapins, a podcast about all that crap we just love to talk about on bravo. I'm love to talk about on Bravo. I'm Ben Mandelker. You can catch me on the Game Brain podcast,
Starting point is 00:01:08 if you like board games. We talk about board games. It's super fun. And joining me is my lovely work husband. God, I just adore me some Ronnie Karam. What's going on, Ronnie? Well, that's sweet. Hello, Ben.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Happy, happy whatever day this is. I can't even keep my day straight anymore. But happy day to you. How are you doing? Happy day to you too. I'm doing great. Here we are back with Orange County after missing a couple episodes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Oh, yeah. We have it has been a little bit because we didn't. That's right. So, um, yeah, we're back. We're here to talk Orange County. Before we dive into it, big news. Our tickets are finally on sale for the crappies awards. It's now January 21st, January 21st, the Thursday, 6 p.m. Pacific, 9 p.m. Eastern. Tickets are now on sale. Go to watchacrapins.com. There's a link there.
Starting point is 00:02:02 And of course, you can vote. You don't have to vote. Doesn't mean anything. Doesn't change anything in the world. It's just fun. And we just think you'll have a fun time voting in it. It's all sorts of cool categories. Like, you know, Best Bravo show, Best Bravo Liberty, but also things like Best Scandal, Best Friend of,
Starting point is 00:02:20 things like that. It's like the MTV movie awards, you know, like compared to the Oscars, except on a much less impressive level, which is sad because the MTV movie awards are already not impressive at all. But that's the space that we live in right now with it. So go check it out. Go to watchacrabbons.com. There's a link there and go vote and have fun. Tell your friends. I think it's just a fun activity for anyone who watches Bravo. Yeah, do it. Do it everybody. Yeah. Well, today is Orange County and it's really weird. We have had two episodes that we haven't recapped. And I got to say, so weird to not recap the show.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Like, I still talk right at the show because I knew I wasn't going to talk to you. So I was just doing terrible impressions to the television instead. Wasn't this fulfilling to have to say? Did we not, I know we didn't recap last week, um, which was part two of the exciting journey to the barren amusement park, like Woodlands amusement park. Did we not recap the one before that? I don't, I just don't remember.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Yeah, the last one we recapped was where Elizabeth started that that thing with Bronwyn where she was crying. And then it continued on. I got, did it continue on? It's it. We found out more information of the next one. I think this is only I think we only missed one week of our of Orange County. Oh, we missed two weeks of Salt Lake. No, of Orange County. Oh. We missed two weeks of Salt Lake City. No, we missed two. We missed two of Salt Lake City.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Do we? This is... I don't know, Ben. You know what, honestly, I'm dead to the world right now, as far as my memory. This is very housewarming. This is as compelling as anything we see on Orange County this season.
Starting point is 00:04:01 That... Well, can we just talk about that amusement park? That was like one of the strangest saddest amusement parks I've ever seen. It was like a nature amusement park or something like that with like, like, sort of half-assed fishing and archery. It was like a year summer camp. Well, it's very like Lake Arrowhead, you know? It's very family.
Starting point is 00:04:24 That's what families do who very like Lake Arrowhead, you know, it's very family. Those are what families do who got a lake arrowhead I mean, they can't like exactly go out clubbing or do it. It's not a glamorous vacation. Okay, they're going to Arrowhead Yeah, and the other thing that we of course we missed on the episode was Shadow Mdor testing positive for coronavirus and then moving back in with our kids and then just burrating them There's dog shit outside! Sophie, Sophie, there's dog! Has anyone done the laundry? There's no one has done the laundry.
Starting point is 00:04:50 No one does dog shit everywhere. Why did you sp- did you sp- did you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- do you sp- everything else, David, David. Go figure, you leave your kids to turn to turn COVID and they're complete slops. Shocking horses. Yeah, it's like a fun version of like an 80s movie. Like the 80s movie is like, oh, the teenagers are at home because the parents went out on vacation. But this one's like, the teenagers are at home
Starting point is 00:05:23 because they all tested positive during a global pandemic, and now they're party! Yeah, that's going to be the movies that come out of 2020 for sure. Yeah. New hip! Sorry, we have to start the New Year off with some new hip! New hip! New hip! So we opened this episode with Ron Winn in her backyard having a six month sobriety party with all of her family.
Starting point is 00:05:50 And she's like, well kids, six months ago, I said I'm not going to drink anymore. And so I got this chip and it's for six months. So yay. But then she drops it. I was like, oh, that that pretty much sums up 2020. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha regarding social distancing, et cetera. Here we have a scene of Jolie opening up the fridge and saying, mom, why is there a mask in the fridge? You know, we got Kelly all wrong. She has masks in her fridge.
Starting point is 00:06:31 She has masks everywhere. How about that? You know, that's a gel mask for her eyes. Ha, ha, ha, ha. You know what it is. It's a gel mask, it's a gel mask so I can have sex with Rick Levendol. Oh.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Oh. It's almost as jelly as Rick Levendol is when we have said, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's up? He's like, does remember when you were a kid, I don't know if you ever did this, but I will confess that like, you know, like when you'd like the soft core part and like the play of boy child or whatever, it was like scrambled on cable, you know, so you just, you know, like when you'd like the soft core part and I like to play a boy channel or whatever,
Starting point is 00:07:05 it was like scrambled on cable, you know, so you just go with it. You see squiggly lines and like once every half an hour, you might see a breast, but all you hear are like Rick Levin Thalenoises, like Rick Levin Thal is like scrambled soft core porn. All you hear is, oh yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yeah, that's all you hear and then cameo grammar going So you're going to take off your bra right now and then you're going to rub your press in my face and then you're going to give me lap dance Oh, yeah, so Okay, wait, I've got to make a diversion here. I, one time, my friend Nicole and I, Nicole's listens. I know you're listening Nicole. Hi, Nikki. We, one time, we're watching a movie. It was like on cinema max, whatever,
Starting point is 00:08:00 and it started Dana Play-Doh. And it was like, it was one of those like cinema max soft core porns. And it was so bad, but we were like fascinated by it because Dana Playdo. And it was one of those like, cinemax softcore poems. And it was so bad, but we were like, fast-ended by it because Dana Playdo wasn't it? Rest in peace.
Starting point is 00:08:10 And what was so funny about it was how they would like, have these random details to make it seem like it's grounded in a reality. So Dana Playdo's whole character thing was that she incessently talked about bringing a Waldorf salad over. She was like, oh, I made a Waldorf salad. Do you want me to bring that over? And then like next year, I was like talked about bringing a Waldorf salad over. She was like, oh, I made a Waldorf salad. Do you want me to bring that over? And then like next, she was like, I brought the Waldorf salad
Starting point is 00:08:29 and then the next thing was like, God, that Waldorf salad was amazing. And then the best was she was at this house with these two, it was like with a couple. And they were eating the Waldorf salad at the coffee table. And she's like, okay, well, this has been wonderful. I'm gonna go to sleep and she's like gonna swim and she stands up and she has like, okay, well, this has been wonderful. I'm gonna go to sleep and she's like in a sweater and she stands up and she has no pants on,
Starting point is 00:08:48 no underwear, just like her butt vagina. And it's like, you just ate a Waldorf salad with these people, like, we're just like naked on the bottom, but like sweater on top. Yeah, that's not how to, that's not how to Waldorf salad. That's right. So that's my little diversion about Dana Plato and soft core points and the guy she
Starting point is 00:09:07 Bones is like what are you talking about? World were salad. I don't even get that but I like it. What's you talking about Willis? Oh, what's your talk? Okay. Okay. So Elizabeth is doing a selfie cam on the beach where she's exercising, I guess. And it's like a fun little sign my divorce papers. That's not a sign to everybody. Here's to the neck. Oh, look at that passion bombing.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Here's to the next phrase in my live. Yes. Unbelievable. It's for critical. Yes. Oh, hypocritical, yes! I'm a dominoe group to bicycle! Wow! Musculatural! So then we're back at Shannon's house.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Excelsi! Your organic headboards came in for your dorm room. When I went to college, you just bought a comforter and now you have to buy. You don't have to buy this you I've literally never heard of anyone buying headboards for their children let alone organic headboards God that's like the a Leah black taking her son to college. Oh, I've got to take our data call It's insane. I Bookcases and carpets and curtains and shops like what are you doing? It's supposed to look like a present self.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Just throw them in there and say see you at Christmas. Yeah, you're gonna buy all these nice sheets and they're never gonna get cleaned for three months. So, it's not even bother. She went in there and decorated the room, the roommate side of the room, like did it up all fancy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Like why, like Shannon bought organic headboards for both girls. And she said, well, I don't want toxicity. So, as we all know, organic headboards fix that. Ha! Oh, look at this vomit yellow pillow she wanted. I was up all night looking at options. Oh, they're hideous! Oh, and I got this card.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Look, you put things in this card and it has a handle. So you lift up the handle and you move the cart. My tailor is making your bed skirt. Don't argue with me, something. Why is she giving your dot? Why does her why does her dorm bed need a bed skirt? It probably won't even fit. You know that she called up, but she called up like, you know, student services. Oh, hello. Hi, my name is Shannon Badoor, and my daughter will be in matriculating at your university this fall. And I would like to know the approximate, I like to know the width and the length after the beds, because it is very important that she has a bed search on her bed because she needs to have nice things
Starting point is 00:11:47 as and I say this as someone who's first husband and give me a nice thing ever ever ever in her life. I need to ask you does the dorm room that my daughter Sophie bedore will be staying in? does this room have a chandelier that works off of Bluetooth? Yes or no? Yes or no? Aren't the walls contagious? Just tell me. Just tell me the truth. Are there... would anyone object if I sent a construction crew over to put drywall over this
Starting point is 00:12:16 interblock wall? Do you have a nepializer? Yes or no? Do you have any services in case a piece of plastic might wind up in some ones but I'm actually asking on behalf of me because I went back to Dr. Moon and let's just say things went awry. Do you have a nurse that is capable of dealing with psychological debris in the anal canal? Yes or no? I'm so happy. I think that has to be one of my favorite housewives things ever.
Starting point is 00:12:48 When Shannon thought she had something up her butt and David had to come get it out of her butt and it turns out it was just a piece of psychological debris. It's like one of the most iconic things. It was like a finale party too. She was late to the finale party. The same finale party where something happened I don't know but uh yeah that was amazing so funny okay so she's like oh we're helping now we are healthy there are six strengths of this you have to be very careful I got you
Starting point is 00:13:15 a covid box there's nepulas or trapealizers true normalizers uh there's kettle chips for your father to eat it too passive aggressively while you're trying to make a point in case he ever comes to visit She's like, I know it's funny. I haven't even changed my will yet. Dave. It still gets everything so if I were to die He gets all the money. Yeah, the kids are like Thanks mom She goes wow there's that good reason to kill miss Shannon storms bidore So wow there's that good reason to kill Miss Shannon Storm's bidore
Starting point is 00:13:47 Which is true. Yeah, you might not want to be saying this stuff out I just killed literally in a murder plot Here I shanning bidore literally lying dead Kill my David for my trust fund. Well, it's nice to see that David is interested in trust for once in his life nice to see that David is interested in trust for once in his life. But my parents could fund your trust. So, um, Sophie's like, um, mom, I want to pick my own clothes. You pick out crappy clothes and she's like, well, who's gonna pay for it? She's like, um, I have dad's credit card. Okay, I need to be independent.
Starting point is 00:14:24 That's credit card. Normally I would say something passive aggressive and be upset that you have your dad's credit card, but thank God you have your dad's credit card. Well, you know, my children were raised here in New Park Beach. It's a very privileged community and it's important for my kids to learn how to take care of themselves, which is why I let them choose out one of the hues of the headboards that I purchased for them. So she's telling her, you better not get into drama. And they're like, does that mean drugs, mom?
Starting point is 00:14:56 So then we go to Bronwyn and Sean's house in the bedroom. And this is just so Bronwyn. Shawn is sitting there by the fireplace on his phone, probably doing working emails or something. And then Bronwyn comes in and plops down on the bed and she's like, what are you working on? I'm gonna get out of this house. This is just a wild social experiment.
Starting point is 00:15:17 I have to get out. Hey, why does it that one woman said, I was meant to have breakfast and dinner with you, but not lunch. Yeah, yeah. We've been together a lot. Oh, and she sells us how miserable it is, and then we see her just basically being rude.
Starting point is 00:15:35 She's so mean to them, because, you know, I know very little about you after 25 years. You don't talk about your feelings ever. Hi, guess what? That's a sign that you're an asshole. If you don't know anything about your husband of 25 years, you're the asshole here, lady. I hate to break it to you,
Starting point is 00:15:51 but you're the one who was drunk. I mean, I respect your journey that you're on. And she says it in such an angry way. I mean, she really is such a drama club teenager, right? Everything is just like, every declaration is just with so much like, ugh, this has to be sad right now. I'm like, and he's like, but he's like,
Starting point is 00:16:15 he's so like trying to make, like he's making things nice. And he's like, well, but I start on a path, which is great, right? She's like, no. No, she's really sucking. And I think that Elizabeth later in the episode will get to it, but she puts, she lays it out very, very clearly. And I totally agree with what she says. I don't remember what Elizabeth said, but I'm like, well, we'll get to it. It's in the notes. But, um, Bronwyn is totally taking everything and turning it around on the other person.
Starting point is 00:16:47 She goes it with every single thing. It makes me crazy. So she's mad because now that she sober, she's not as dependent on him. And now she realizes that things that were acceptable to her before are just not acceptable now. And so she's like, have you talked to her? She's like, have you talked to your therapist? Yeah. It's just, it's just what comes after. I'm just reading through that.
Starting point is 00:17:07 So she's like, have you talked to your therapist? And he's like, no, but I'm going to. I'm probably going to learn a lot about myself. I'm just like, well, yeah, I know nothing about you. I mean, nothing. And we've been together for so long. And he's like, well, I mean, I started the path. And she's like, well, I mean, I feel like you and said, well, I feel like you get jealous of my girlfriends
Starting point is 00:17:26 and that's kind of hard on me. Yeah, because you just came out of the closet and are going out all the time. Well, he's home taking care of your children and your house. Yeah, exactly. Look, I've actually been, I think, more into Bronwyn's journey than a lot of the audience. I think a lot of people
Starting point is 00:17:45 have been turned off by now. But even I'm starting to really, you know, get a little bit to my what's end because I think that the journey that she's on and how honest she's been has been really actually fascinating and interesting. But now she's just sort of at that part where she is like going through changes and it's just like, you know, I've said before, she's like in a teenager state, and she is in a teenager state. And unfortunately, teenager states are really annoying. So, I mean, it's just sort of like, just seeing her, like, you know, Sean,
Starting point is 00:18:13 she was just sort of like going after Sean. And, you know, she's just saying, and she's like, he's like, you know, I'm just sitting here and I'm seeing you who have developed all these like really close bonds with your friends, and I'm just like a roommate and it's like you don't even want to be around me, you know? She said, well, our home life is not romantic, okay?
Starting point is 00:18:29 That's why we have the condo. And I'm sort of like, you know, there are a lot of people that don't have the condo that make their homes robust. Most people, 99.9% of people don't have the condo. For the romance. I feel like there was like an excuse in there. Like I am angry at you because there's no romance here
Starting point is 00:18:52 and we got rid of our romantic place. I feel like that's an excuse you put in. You're probably angry at him because you're starting to realize new things about yourself and you're projecting. And who knows what. There's also some psychological garbage floating around there. But I'm like, don't say it's because, don't say it's because of the condo, you don't have the condo.
Starting point is 00:19:10 I think she's doing a lot of fucked up shit by just going out all the time and, you know, parting with her new friends and she's turning it around on him to make him feel bad. Well, she's like, well, you know, our life isn't romantic and, you know, there's kids everywhere, that's why we had the condo. And, you know, we know in the home there's nothing sexy. I mean, I said when we went to the montage. I said, let's do this once a week. And you made a lot of promises to me at the montage.
Starting point is 00:19:33 And you haven't followed through since the montage. I mean, here's the other thing. I don't know if a thought occurred to anyone else, but did anyone else think that maybe Sean might actually be depressed? Like well, he's basically telling her he's he told her he's like, I yeah, he's like on his phone all the time, he's like not emotionally available, he's quiet. His partner in crime for the for the past, you know, 20 years is suddenly like doesn't
Starting point is 00:20:01 need him anymore. Maybe his purpose in life is being shattered. He enabled her because he, there's all sorts of stuff that is happening. It's like Sean's allowed to also be going through some shit too. If you want us to reserve the space to honor that you're going to do some very, very serious life changes and self-realizations. Like you should also honor the fact that Sean is probably also confronting a lot of things too.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Yeah, I should say, well, we made promises at the montage and we said we would put ourselves first at the montage and we said he would get off his damn phone, he said that at the montage. And so she's like, you said you were gonna make an effort and it lasted two days, Sean, two days. Okay, this conversation everybody is about her going out with her friends all the time. Remember that. Okay, it's like fighting with the child. And so she's like, well, I want to be a better version of myself. And I need that from him too. And
Starting point is 00:20:57 so he's like, well, I'm sorry that that's your reality. She's, well, what's yours? And he's like, well, we talked about like having romantic time once a much, once a week, Sean. And he's like, but then when we are together, you want nothing to do with me. You know, and then she's like, well, you just come home and you stare at your phone. I'm like, you know what true love is, is that when you and your loved one can both sit on the couch and look at the look at your own phones together and not feel like something is wrong, because you know, it's like the equivalent of like reading newspapers together.
Starting point is 00:21:28 You know, to me, that's, when people always say, oh, you're in your phone, you know, do you know what's like a famously sacred thing is that like when a couple wakes up in the morning and they both have a newspaper and they both are sitting at the table reading a newspaper together, isn't that like the same thing?
Starting point is 00:21:44 You're both like, the point is that you're together, you're doing something but you're doing it together. I just feel like this has been like, like like she's, Bronwyn's saying that Jon's not making an effort in this and that when he's spent the past 20 years, pretty much like cleaning up her mess, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Is pretty like, it's pretty harsh. Yeah, she's being pretty harsh and every time he tries to talk and he's talking to her in a very like Therapy is way, you know, which is what she requires, you know, so he's talking like as she won't let him finish a sentence or anything It's like you're never here son. I was like, well, no wonder she knows nothing about him like the man can't finish the sentence You know, so she's like, well, I mean I get half of you like you check out and I don't want to be a little bit miserable I want to be happy and I'm starting to think that looks different than what this is and I go out to be with my friends because they're not on their phones they're doing stuff with me and like no you know you know also
Starting point is 00:22:38 I'm working to support a family of 10 or 9 whatever it is people and taking care of the kids, and doing all this shit, well, you're going out and having fun. Give me a break. I'm not feeling bad for Bromwin on this. I don't care what anybody says. Yeah, I think in this case, I think this was like,
Starting point is 00:22:53 I think this is projection. I think she was trying to create some sort of space so that way she won't feel as bad when she ultimately decides to leave them. I think that she's creating something here because, I mean, I understand, you don't want someone who's always on their phone, but also it is 2020 people are on their phones. I feel like it's kind of like a...
Starting point is 00:23:16 You know what it is? I was watching... I was watching New Year's Fox. Fox actually had a really funny New Year's thing with like Joel McHale and Ken, what's his face? Well, I can't remember his name. Korean actor, Korean American actor. I don't know. Can you name it?
Starting point is 00:23:37 You all know Ken Jong. So, so they, it was like this really funny thing. And then they're like, oh, and now here's something from Tim Allen because Tim Allen has a show that's on Fox. And so Tim Allen gets on this broadcast and he's like, hey, you know, new year we could hope for new things like, how about people not being in their phones, right? Remember that when people actually talked, I'm like, this is such an old take. Like this is old, like this whole thing like, oh, you're in your phone. It, everyone has a phone now. Everyone is checking their phone. It is like to, to, to,
Starting point is 00:24:12 the phone shaming thing is so tired and played out. And it's just like, to me, like, represents this like, this thing that people like, hold on to. So basically, you're telling me that you and Dom are always on your phones. We are always on our phones, but we feel good about it. Yeah. rewards of a parent's life. But come on, someday, parenting is unbearable. I love my kid, but is a new parenting podcast from Wondry that shares a refreshingly honest and insightful take on parenting. Hosted by myself, Megan Galey, Chris Garcia, and Kurt Brown
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Starting point is 00:25:22 the hardest job in the world, listen to, I love my kid, but wherever you get your podcasts, you can listen ad free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. Oh, so he's like, well, we'll try and do a much better job of coordinating the time together. Check actions, not words, Sean, actions. Like shut up, Brahman, seriously. So then we go to selfies and math jogging in Orange County and Elizabeth is with her brother and they're basically talking about going golfing and how he's obsessed with golf. Yeah, he's obsessed and he's her rock and she calls him in the middle of the night upset and he
Starting point is 00:26:01 always talks her down from a ledge and then they start talking. oh sorry god I would say they they have the same laugh because she's like oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh The cult where I was almost being to death because I was just like yeah, that cult wow what a cult I was like, whoa, oh my god. Yeah, oh, and I also want to say so when we started talking about this You know, we it started with the you know, I was in a church that was really strict and all of that and I titled episode oh my heavens gate well then the next episode comes out and it's all the story of like Well then the next episode comes out and it's all the story of like molestation and all that shit and I was like oh I I'm not taking that lightly so sorry. Oh, we're people upset. I mean, I just felt bad when I was watching it I was like damn like I make in front of that geez so thoughtful Ronnie. I felt tricked Okay, I felt tricked by the show they were like here make fun of it
Starting point is 00:27:04 It's me to make fun of and by the show. They were like, here, make fun of it. It's for you to make fun of it. And then the next week they were like, ha ha, it's my manifestation. Well, Jesus. Wait, and let's, and I want to talk about that for one moment. The, the, the lack of like, the, was it was the right word? Not, is it not delicacy? But the way, the way Gina asked, because, you know, Elizabeth told, you know, dive olders to Bromwin that she was sexually abused in this cult and everything. And then they meet up with the rest of the women and then she then tells the rest of the women.
Starting point is 00:27:36 She's like, yeah, I was in a cult and sexual abuse or it was bad. She's sort of like being elusive. She doesn't want to really come out and say it. And then Gina goes, what you in my last dead? I was like, Gina. Yeah, she's, oh, and that's also another reason I was kind of
Starting point is 00:27:51 annoyed with Bronwyn by the time we got to this episode. Cause she's like, Gina open up to me. Just tell me. And so our Elizabeth open up to me. Tell me everything. So she does. And she's like, I will never say anything.
Starting point is 00:28:03 She's like, never. And then they get around all the other girls. She's like, I never say anything she's like never and then they get around all the other girls check I am so proud of you Elizabeth. I know. I was like oh my god. So you am a last dead huh? Oh my god yeah that whole thing I felt so awkward when I watched it because I was like okay I was just making jokes about that. I wasn't my friend, so I missed it all. Oh, so anyway, so they're talking about this cult experience and how he was beat and how they watch her own grandmother die. He tells us that they watch her aunt die because she had an allergy, but they didn't get her medical help because if she was worthy enough, she would have been saved.
Starting point is 00:28:45 So, um, some fucked up So, um, fucked up shit, man. Fuck up shit. Don't join a cult people. Please don't join one. So they apparently had a really hard time escaping. And Elizabeth said that every time they tried to escape, they always wound up back in the cult, which I didn't really understand, like, how or why. I'm sure we'll get more details about that. But either way, obviously both siblings carry a lot of grief.
Starting point is 00:29:11 No, we're not grief guilt and all sorts of emotional baggage from that experience and Elizabeth. Elizabeth thinks that she caused her sister to go down the her path of, you know, drugs and crime because she said that she told her sister what was going on in the church and to try to protect her. And so she feels like by her letting her sister know, she like, I guess maybe ruined her innocence or something like that, I'm not sure. Yeah, and the brother's like, can you break?
Starting point is 00:29:38 I mean, telling her what happened to you, isn't enough trauma to make her turn to a life of crime and drugs, you know? And that's I think typical of people who have that in their family, you know, where you're just trying to figure out why or what you could have done and stuff. And Elizabeth is like, well, I just need a protector and I can't protect her. And it's a really sad scene. It is sad. I wish Elizabeth Vargas wasn't so fucking crazy on Instagram. She is. It is sad. I wish a list of its vargus wasn't so fucking crazy on Instagram. She is. She is. Another thing with this joke. You watch a show and you feel you feel one way,
Starting point is 00:30:12 but then you go to Instagram and it's like, oh, geez. She's a real disaster on Instagram. I don't even follow her, but I every now and then I see something and I'm like, oh, you are. You play this like on the cool chick. I'm just like, I need you to go and grow, who lives on the beach, I'm just a cool chick. And then on Instagram, you're like, oh, you were just a nightmare. Yeah. So then Gina and Emily are at Gina's house.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Emily comes over and they start talking about Arrowhead and Gina's like, by the way, Gina's accent, this season is hilarious. It gets crazier and crazier as it goes. She just really puts it on. She's like, what, it was not just shit, she oh. I was like, okay, now Gina.
Starting point is 00:30:55 So, one when Kim and Ha, okay, and she's talking about Shannon and John. So they're talking about Shannon and John and how Shannon and John are fighting a lot. By the way, the whole Shannon John thing is like a little perplexing to me Because we just are hearing that there are fights and then Shannon has been had been concerned that they'd be spending time away from each other And I'm like what is going on with them? I'm not really sure what's going on because we're not really seeing anything We're just sharing this stuff. Your drama, that's what's going on.
Starting point is 00:31:25 We saw all of her relationship with David, that guy was a real fucking asshole too, by the way. But Shannon was like totally dramatic at all times. Like last year when they were talking about, Tamara was saying how Shannon's just calls her, you know, five times a day and she's always crying and that was during the divorce. But then the year before that, it was, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:43 maybe we're gonna go through divorce. And the year before that, it was like, David, it's always fucking year before that it was, you know, maybe we're gonna go through divorce and the year before that it was like, David does, it's always fucking something with people like that, you know? They never stop calling you and sucking you dry. I know, I think I feel like you and Shannon would be friends because I feel like Shannon would be calling you up every single day and be like, oh, it's Shannon again. Yeah, but I'm stopping that and it's very freeing, but I have to come up with something to do with my time.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Because I realize that that's like kind of a weird codependent thing too. It's like, oh, call and then just dump all your shit and then I'll sit there and help. You know, it's like, that doesn't help anyone. And I'm sick of hearing the shit. Yeah, well Sean's available now. So probably.
Starting point is 00:32:23 So probably. I still have his immunity idle that he gave gave us. So, I might be calling on that power very soon. So, Brahmin, so, Brahmin apparently told Gina that John, Shannon John, was drinking to the same degree that Brahmin is so drunk, whereas he would wake up with the shakes. And now, Brahmin thinks that John has a drinking problem too. And apparently there was some sort of thing that happened where John got so drunk at a golf tournament that his dad had to come fetch him. So, we don't really know what any of this is
Starting point is 00:32:53 and we only have one more episode in the season, so I don't know where this is gonna go, but I'm intrigued. Part of me is like, well, of course, Bronwyn's saying that because anyone who's ever had an addiction understands that. you know, we've said it on this show a million times. Like, if you have an eating addiction, you lose one pound and suddenly everyone else is fat and that's eating addiction around you. Or if you're an alcoholic and you start drinking everyone's an alcohol. So part of me thinking in that frame of mind, but then the other part's like, oh, this
Starting point is 00:33:21 sounds bad. I have to say, I have to say when Shannon and John were making cocktails at Brahman's vows, there was some, there was a part of me that thought, this, something about this feels, um, not right. I don't know why I was like, there was, I picked about, I start to think to myself, how much of these two actually drink together, like that they have to have this like, private cocktail moment like and I get it people do it like people have fun They will have a private cocktail moment. I would not be above doing it Yeah, there was a big case in There was like a desperation about it and then they got so wasted doing it. I was like
Starting point is 00:34:01 What's really going on here? I'm not gonna lie. I definitely had that thought when I watched them and that scene. Yeah, I generally just go with the rule, like everyone's okay unless they say they're not. And then, you know, or if it's just so, so bad that you have to step in and do something, you know, right? But, um, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, it's a place to do that right now, you know. So then Gina's like, well, we've all been getting phone calls for God and John, you know, like, he sounds like something's bad going on there. And so, yeah, we talk about the shakes and the golf tournament and stuff. And Emily's like, well, I mean, Bronwyn asked how they were.
Starting point is 00:34:41 And I said, everything's great and she said well you know Newport is a small town And people are talking about his drinking problem and the golf course stuff and Gina's like yeah, oh, oh, so Bronwyn Who doesn't talk shit, but now she's talking shit, okay? Stop now you're just getting on my nerves with that well It's funny because they're mad at Bronwyn for gossiping when they're actively gossiping about Bronwyn in the process. I guess the difference is that Bronwyn made the final flaw of like taking like a sanctimonious stand
Starting point is 00:35:13 and arrowhead about she doesn't like talking about people behind her back. Like the moment you do that on a real house so I've shown your dead because the entire show structure is about talking about people behind their backs. That's like the entire like every time you do an interview, that's literally what you're doing. So you're already screwed.
Starting point is 00:35:29 And then you're going to get, they're going to get you on like moral grounds, you know, when Emily and Emily has been the biggest gossip this season, but she's getting away with it because she's just like, whatever I want to ask questions, you know, she doesn't have any like, you know, high ground about it. Yeah, she just admits it. And then like, can you can use that like yeah, that's what I said And I also said that they forgot to tell you this part that I also said So Gina's like well that shit makes me so confused about her because like I mean especially being a self-admitted alcohol like itself Like wouldn't that trigger her to check on a friend?
Starting point is 00:36:02 I mean did she even sound concerned and Emily's like no, she was concerned. She would have called her. Yeah So let me go over to Kelly with her daughter Jolie and they're they're finding a spot to park at the beach and Look at this asshole. Look at it. And Joey just reaches over and hunks the horn So we're seeing young Kelly emerge from Jolie now. Yeah, Jolie's like, pfft. Don't hunk it, people. I don't wanna get in fights.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Don't hunk. You don't hunk it, people. You do this. You're fat, you're stupid. You're stupid. You're stupid. You're hair's stupid. Stupid person on the street.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Ha, ha, ha. So they go sit on the beach together. Kelly's like isn't it is it so bad being with me like yes it's like prison you're so straight yeah and I just want you to succeed like I do everything I do all the chores I don't even get money to do chores. We also by the way we also got a thematic through line here of Kelly's getting mad as you'll leave for being on the phone all the time. And then we see a montage of Kelly being on the phone all the time. So, which is, which is also reminiscent of Lisa Barlow being on the phone last week on Salt Lake City and her husband getting mad. And then she's saying, I could do anything. I could sing I could sing Brittany's spears while I text right now I love that. Wait a minute what did you say? Oh my god I love
Starting point is 00:37:30 that. What did you say? That's great I love that. Okay oops I did it a hit me baby one more isn't she? Yeah. Yeah. Um, it cracked me up about that episode. That episode was really funny by the way. But when she's like, um, you know, I mean, listen, I don't think it's so bad to think about work all the time. I mean, I work, okay, I work. I love that. And her husband's like, yeah, but I mean, you know, we do have kids and we should really spend time with kids. She's like, are you saying that you want the kids to be involved in our business? Because I love that. I love that make them work
Starting point is 00:38:08 That was so funny. She just won't let it go. She's like yes family business. Yeah so so now So yeah, Jolie is like complaining about like your soul You're really strict for no reason and like I do all the chores and I get no money from doing chores And I'm getting straight A's and you're beyond strict And it's just like you want some dragon fruit That's a dragon fruit I'm Kelly tells us I grew up with a strict family and then we cut to her mom going
Starting point is 00:38:36 You know how they toss the salad, you know Toss it you're gonna toss it all right and toss that And then just like, that strict family. Making sure the kid knows how to toss a salad. And Julie is like, I try so hard and like, you're still just as hard on me and just, look, you're succeeding! You're succeeding! Look at you, you're succeeding at the dishes, good job!
Starting point is 00:39:04 It's so funny, I never would have beggedgged Kelly to be the one who is like, like, got her kid on the street in narrow. It's so funny to me. Yeah, so then they start talking about Rick, and Jolie's like, yeah, I mean, he makes you way more normal, like, my life was a train wreck. I couldn't understand school, like, I felt like I was in a really bad place, and I'm like happier, happier and we're in a big house and I get to hang out with my friends. Yeah, he's a really good influence and he has a really big dick! Oh, yeah, Rick is like a mediator so I can say things like I can be like my mom is really knowing me because I'm doing the best that I can and she doesn't seem to understand
Starting point is 00:39:42 and then Rick will turn to my mom and go, oh, okay, okay, I'm good advice. Tell her, tell her, your mother says she's very proud of you. Good job, you're succeeding. What a commuter. So then we go over to Shannon and John. So, I just say one last thing, Jolie, I mean, we love Jolie. And I love when she goes,
Starting point is 00:40:12 you know, going through all this stuff in life has given me a lot of wisdom. I was like, there you go, Jolie. The 13 year old wisdom. Yeah. So then we go to Shannon and John and they're singing with each other for the first time in
Starting point is 00:40:25 like three weeks or something and he's sitting on his back porch with a drink and of course you know now that Bronwyn said that I'm like oh he's drinking. Me too. And so John, John greets her and she's really awkward because I haven't seen John in three weeks and we've never had this much time apart and I'm going to show you apart by making my hands into a book that's open. I've never had much time apart. And you know what, let me do some cursive in the air and I've done the cursive and now let's go back to the front and backward hand motion, step sign and around the world. I'm doing the monkey. I'm doing the monkey. I'm going down an escalator So it's like I want to drink you want to drink and she's like oh, well a drink a drink on Saturday John he's like oh come on a Saturday
Starting point is 00:41:15 And I guess that Shannon his caught wind by now that everyone's talking about her being an alcoholic because this whole scene is about Shannon trying to be like well, maybe I drink drink sometimes but I don't mean to get so angry. I cannot have a vodka soda. Okay, maybe water down. Maybe a SEMA. Can I have a white cloth? White cloth. And let's put a shot of vodka in that.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Okay, we're in some tequila. Great. So yeah, she does. She is, she has happened having sleep issues and I have been in the pandemic I was so overrun by fear I just drank a lot and I'm just not I'm not proud of a lot of things I took a lot of things out and John so I just as a reminder I came from a place of fear in the pandemic and the pandemic only not the entire rest of my life as well absolutely yeah and so she says I took things out on you I'm embarrassed and he's like well make only not the entire rest of my life as well. Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And so she says, I took things out on you, I'm embarrassed. And he's like, well, you know it's hard. I mean, we probably both took things out on each other. Yeah, but I took my fear and a question out on you. I mean, my fear of toxic bed frames. That was very scary for me. And remember when I told you to get the fuck out. Remember that, John? Oh, remember when you came home with a bed skirt from from
Starting point is 00:42:29 Laura Ashley and I was like who made this fucking bed skirt I got all my own bespoke ones and you make this one I was a place to fear I was a freak bed skirt I was trying to get them you the middle of the night that's all hmm I was I was trying to strangle you with a toxic bed sheet and for that I apologize I was trying to strengthen you with a toxic bedsheet and for that I apologize It was COVID alcoholism. You know in my marriage. I was I was very reactive and then we see Greatest hits like way to make me look like more of a bitch David I love the shaman clothes, so they just put all the shaman being crazy clothes together love the shaman clothes and they just put all the shaman being crazy clothes together. Oh, they're so good.
Starting point is 00:43:05 So he's like, where are you saying this all of a sudden? Shake? Well, I just, I don't know. What do you think? John. And he's like, well, you know, it's hard when it's COVID and we're all stuck together and we're not, we don't have our own space. I mean, that's hard.
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Starting point is 00:43:54 that was before the pandemic, and now that there is a pandemic, I'm saying I want my space, but I also want to be with you. So what I'm proposing is we go to an auditorium and Send on opposite corners and we're technically in the same room, but we're in a clearly different spaces It sounds like he's just trying to yes whatever she says, you know, yeah Well, I'm sorry. I held you. Well, it is hard being together. Oh now it's hard being together. No
Starting point is 00:44:23 He's just gonna say something and then he got the right combination on the padlock Yeah, he doesn't want you to yell at him again So Santa's like well, you know, we have not stayed Together since testing music. Yeah, I've got some pent up effect Rick Levin Thal get out of here So she tells us that she's learned that John is committed because even though they have problems, others would run from.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Like me! Like her brother. You're here running. She's here running. Jeez, she has a really low bar. What did David do to her? You're gonna make me breakfast? You should only make breakfast.
Starting point is 00:45:03 We should both make breakfast So I'm gonna set the choundr to fit into my ping-a-ang Yeah So Um, Elizabeth just texted me and get this Travis She was like part of this cult where they were like molesting the children and stuff and like I don't know what to do with that like Like that's like wow. That like heavy like do I ask questions Do I not ask questions like what do I do with it? I'm like how about you just don't do anything until she comes to you with more
Starting point is 00:45:34 I don't yeah, I think it's a pretty easy call on that one Travis's reaction so funny. He's so bored. He's like so visually bored, you know, and he's like no way so funny he's so bored he's like so visually bored you know and he's like no way yeah like what do we do it's so heavy you know and then you know I feel bad for Lucas dot in kindergarten like it's not fair and I'm trying to like to negotiate a situation with Matt and then he makes me feel bad like I'm supposed to feel bad that's annoying like the other day at the pool he starts introducing me to the neighbors and I'm like they were my neighbors like I'm like Like, I didn't know the neighbors and I'm like, he has no shame in this. Like, don't walk around like the mayor of the social club, okay?
Starting point is 00:46:10 Tuck your tail between your legs, I mean, who do you think gathered when I put out my gather sign? I was the neighbors, okay? I know them all, okay? It just is weird, okay? And like, I don't know. Like, people probably think that like, I'm crazy because he's going around saying like, oh, it was just a Bad 10 minutes. No, I'll tell you what a bad 10 minutes was my hair from last season. Okay. No, you're minimizing my truth. Okay. Wow, that was a great breakfast.
Starting point is 00:46:34 It's like you took one bite. Well, I don't eat much because I don't stop it's walking, you know? He tells me I'm glad you take breaths. So then we get some new weird song or it's new to me anyway. Yeah, it was awesome. And it certainly is no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, which they haven't played in two weeks. No, it's not, but wait until you get to the real housewives of Dallas music
Starting point is 00:47:01 because you haven't watched it yet. And now they've got, I guess they've got this new way of looking at the show it's like all positive now it's just gonna be like this super fun girly fun show and then all the music is new it's like it's a sunny day oh god it's a sunny, shiny cause it's sunny outside thick, wet, and smooth selling sunset better come back because they've really raised the bar on some tricky,
Starting point is 00:47:26 monical anthems about like, empty, empty proclamations of like, badass, biturite. Like, yeah, I run this town, I run this town. This is my town, so you better not run on it and just like them getting coffee. I'm a hot, hot girl and I turned down the AC. That's right. I turned down the AC. What is this song girl housewives would be? It's like deandroid driving her Lexus. The fuck is this?
Starting point is 00:47:55 So, um, how bad news? We can't go to Disneyland because coronavirus closed and all down. Unbelievable. Hypocrinical. Undeniable. Coronavirus. Because coronavirus closing all down unbelievable hypocritical coronavirus And her brothers like well, I guess we have to fly to Florida Which is really funny because of course you can so then Emily comes over and Emily's like you know Oh, I didn't need anything all day because I knew you'd have food
Starting point is 00:48:24 Oh, I didn't need anything all day because I knew you'd have food I am Emily so then um, uh, they sit down outside and Do you ever get tired of all the foot traffic behind you? Emily we call it the challenge of Shummer Emily. That's what we call and that shounders Undeniable unhippedocritical unbequietable Moro is logical So Emily's like well, I feel bad for Bronwyn. Oh, I said well she investigated me She's so you know, I mean, I don't care that she investigated me investigate on murder scene, but I mean it's fun But it was rude. She's yeah, you don't mind about it. She's well. I know I'm weird
Starting point is 00:49:02 But just ask me about it. You got a question, ask me. You got something to say to me, say it. And Emily goes, okay, why are you weird? I was raised in a cult. So yeah, she starts telling her about that. And she's like, yeah, I had a lot of childhood trauma. Like I was abused in a church. And Emily's like, are you talking to sexual abuse?
Starting point is 00:49:24 And then Elizabeth starts crying. And Emily's like, oh, are you talking to that control abuse and then Elizabeth starts crying and Emily's like, well, thank you for trusting me enough to tell me something that personal. I mean, of course I already do. I was just a genius outfit, but I already know that. Thank you for telling me. And you know, I'm only psyched. My heart breaks for her because as a child, you know, you don't even know that there's anything wrong with what all these adults are doing and it's not until you're an adult that you really have to start dealing with the psychological ramifications of it and stuff. And Elizabeth is saying, well, you know, the trip was really uncomfortable, but it needed to happen. And I'm actually really grateful those girls were there when it did happen, but I'm still
Starting point is 00:50:00 confused with Bronwyn. She's like, I texted her and she was just non-responsive. I mean, I fixed time to even and she just asked them. She's like, I texted her and she was just non-responsive. I mean, I FaceTime to even and seems to just act like oh, I just want to get off this FaceTime Like don't act like you want to get to know me and then act like you don't want to get to know me Yeah, and there's like, well, I think she's in a very selfish place right now and and Elizabeth basically says that like Oh, well, she bleames everything on everyone else. And that's like, that's like what I think. Alcoholism is her reditary, her kids,
Starting point is 00:50:30 you know, she's got her kids so she doesn't have a life. She blames her mom for everything else. I mean, it's a pattern. And she's like, but I'm not gonna investigate the woman moving. You know, I'm not gonna investigate or anything, you know. And then she says that like her divorce is final, and I'm like, okay, so are you and Jimmy having sex? Now I'm just, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, like, yep, I'm doing Jimmy now, but I don't know. I don't either, but Jimmy's laughing inside because he's on his computer and hearing them.
Starting point is 00:51:12 So then we go over to Bronwyn's house. Now, here's the part in the show where Bronwyn's just going to try and recast the whole thing. She's like, fuck these ladies. I hate all of them. I'm going to bring all of my friends onto this show. Now, ma'am, no, is not gonna happen okay? And what Elizabeth was saying earlier about her you know not being interested on FaceTime yeah because it's like a drama for camera you know it's like the second you have drama she's there like
Starting point is 00:51:35 tell me about it breathe breathe tell me the drama and then there's no cameras there and suddenly she's like why are you fucking calling me on FaceTime crazy baby? Right. So, so Brawins with Sherry and her kitchen and Brawins basically like, she loves Sherry because Sherry's like, she has, she supports herself and everything and Brawins like, you know, I want to stand on my own two feet and just, I want to be just like Sherry.
Starting point is 00:52:02 I want to be like Sherry. So she's like putting Sherry on this like pedestal right now, which I think is gonna lead to disappointment down the line for her. And they start talking about how, they're looking at a photo from her six month sobriety party that they had, and Sean had apparently gotten her a cake and was a red velvet cake, and Bronwyn.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Well, hold on, now Sherry's a dick, okay? Sherry's like an under-minor. She comes in here and immediately starts talking shit about the husband. She's like, because brawman said, this is the first time I've tried to make things pretty since the pandemic, well except for that party. And Sherry's like, oh yeah, that party.
Starting point is 00:52:37 I mean, you're a red velvet cake. That made the whole thing. I mean, I know that your favorite cake is a celebration cake from Suxy Cake and Sean was like, oh, your favorite cake is a celebration cake from Suxycake and Sean with psychics. Oh, her favorite cake is Red Velvet. Right. And Braumann's like, I hate Red Velvet cake, which is crazy to me, but like, regardless, hello, it is to be fair, after 20 years, Sean should know what cake she hates. I mean, that, that is also fair. But there, there this like red velvet cake was clearly the straw that broke the camels back
Starting point is 00:53:08 How much cake does Bronwyn fucking eat? I mean seriously you think anybody? How would you know the Bronwyn's favorite cake is I mean well? I think you would know what cake she doesn't like Right yes, I would think I don't know I'm team Sean kidnap Sean I'm yeah, I'm I would think I don't know. I'm Team Sean. Kid map song. I'm getting mad at you. Yeah, I'm I am Team Sean. Well, I think that this this cake situation was being like hell to wait like, I mean, I don't know. I mean, if if Dom got me a cake, like if Dom got me
Starting point is 00:53:35 like a strawberry shortcake to celebrate me, I wouldn't be mad, but I'd be kind of like, why would you do that? Like I hate strawberries, you know, like I'd be like, why why would you do that? Like, I hate strawberries, you know? Like, I'd be like, why would you do that? You know? But I hear you. So, but Sherry is like, Sean, I didn't key that cake, remember?
Starting point is 00:53:54 And she's like, yeah, well, I hate that cake. I just took a bite of it to be polite. And Sherry's like, well, I'll never let him order the cake again. And Bronwyn tells us, Sherry gets me, I mean, she's not like Sean. He's always trying to fix or to help. I don't need you to fix it. I just need you to listen.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well then stop being broken. Stop fucking being broken then. Okay, because that's what your husband is trying to do. Well, I mean, the thing is that he has like no purpose now. I think he's probably like,
Starting point is 00:54:21 he spent 20 years as purpose was to like enable her. And now he's pretty much unmoored and buying, you know, erroneous cakes. Wasting red velvet on someone who doesn't like it. I mean, hello. Perfect. Send it up here to Hollywood. Red velvet cake. This is a red velvet cake friendly household over here, Sean. So please send all the cakes up here. So, so then no Ella comes over and this is Brawman's other friend who's also pretty thirsty for the camera. And so they're there just having a girl's time and Brawman saying that they had a big fight and then Sean texted saying, I left and she was like, cool. And she was like, happy that Sean had left
Starting point is 00:55:01 the house. Yeah. And she's like being sober changed me. I mean, I think he's looking at the idea of a perfect couple with seven kids, but I can't go back there. Well, you are still. You better get out. Yeah, what are you gonna do?
Starting point is 00:55:16 What are you gonna do? Shipping on the touring version of Annie? I mean, you got to figure it out. Well, you know what's gonna be really fun is when she finally realizes that her saying these things like, I need to do me is probably a direct parallel of like what her mom went through.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Exactly. She is so being her mother and that's what's making me fucking crazy. It's making me feel fun. That's gonna be a real fun realization for her. When she realizes like everything she can learn about her mother, how her mother was like in a band and all this and her mom was doing it for her.
Starting point is 00:55:44 And her mom was always gone a band and all this and her mom was doing it for her. And her mom was always gone. She was always traveling. She was always out of the house. And her mom's like, well, I had to live my life too. It was like I had to have myself discovery too. And that's exactly what Brahman was. That's gonna be a real doozy when Brahman figures that one out.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Next season. Yeah. So, Brahman's like, so, um, Bronwyn's like, well, I've worked the steps and I've very clear about my boundaries. And so Noel's like, yeah, well, now, you know, you're finding people that love you unconditionally and can help guide you. And want to be on TV. And then Bronwyn's like, yeah, I mean, I got, I got on my knees and I don't know why
Starting point is 00:56:22 she said this, but she said she got on her knees and prayed. And the male goes, I got on my knees and I don't know why she said this but she says she got on her knees and pray and the mother goes I get on my knees Sometimes I say oh god. I'm Samantha Yeah, I just wrote terrible audition at the end like you're all fucking fired get out you're all fired get off this show So Shannon's house Shannon's pat helping Sophie pack and there's stuff all over the couch and they're getting stuff in the suitcases She's like Sophie. I will let you take my product jacket. It's $1,500 She's like thanks mom
Starting point is 00:56:54 Yeah, she's like mom. This is like not my style and Sophie is like really excited speaking of cult She's really excited to go to Waco to Baylor Because she just feels like Orange County is superficial and she's like excited to go to Waco, to Baylor, because she just feels like Orange County is superficial and she's excited to leave. And this is just gonna be better for her wellbeing. So, yeah, I'm standing, looks all sad. She's like, oh, well, I guess I'm superficial now. So sweet, well, thanks. Can't wait to watch your life from the sidelines.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Well, just remember that when you have a tip with someone, that's not when you want to take that sip and talk bad about her to other people, and I'm assuming it's in her because maybe she might look like Bronwyn maybe, and just the way Bronwyn talks about me, you don't want to do that, you do not want to do that. Do not talk bad about people Sophie, and then it cuts to a clip, package of Shannon, just being like, you know what I look in her eyes, and I see evil. Catch a Shannon.
Starting point is 00:57:50 She's a killer! Catch a Shannon. That woman is full of shit. Heh heh heh heh. Um, so they're talking about how hard it's gonna be, you know, when Sophie moves out and it's just gonna be hard. I mean, it's hard to believe that, you know, she won't be in this household and is that a bug?
Starting point is 00:58:08 Is that a bug? Ah! Ah! It's toxic! So then later Shannon is home and Kelly shows up dressed for the real half was a Potomac reunion. Yes. Exactly same color.
Starting point is 00:58:22 And she comes in and they start talking about how the kids are growing up, etc. and should we drink? And she sounds like, I have to Cuba. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No So Kelly sees the check on her table and out there. Yeah, just sitting out for $1.7 million. Or whatever it was, just a check out there on with cameras, everything. Yeah, and Shan is like, well, it was the final payment. I got $1.4 million.
Starting point is 00:58:57 And that's it, Kelly. That is it. You know, I'm not just mine, but I'm not cashing out for life with it. I have to do it on my own now with your trust Yeah, I have to do it God bless David Bedore and continued success for him and the new lady
Starting point is 00:59:16 However her name is Sending go outside and Archie is just standing in the hot tub. That's so funny. Just standing in it just like his his own his one place for peace. And Shannon is telling Kelly how hard COVID was for her and John, and you know, I was very fear-driven. But you know what, like, and we would fight every single night, because we're so fear-driven. And Kelly is like, well, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:45 Shannon, she goes off of people when she gets drunk. I mean, I've been her punching bag for years. So then we got another montage. But then they showed the, the one where Kelly is like, well, maybe you shouldn't eat so much. And she says, that's not my plate. You fucking bitch. Why are they making it look like Shannon was going off for no reason? And Kelly was just being a punching bag. Either way, it was just, it's always Shannon was going off for no reason and Kelly was just being a punching bag Either way, it was just it's always so great to relive Shannon's greatest hits
Starting point is 01:00:09 It really is it's like the our version of the now CB's Yeah, now that's what I call Shannon Mador yeah, so She's like You know, I have to tell you that we all talked about you in arrowhead. Um, you know, I haven't seen anything about you in what's his face. Like, all I've seen is Rick's big dick because it's like always in my face. But, you know, like, Gina said, and she's like, oh, wow, that's so crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Because at the beginning of COVID, John went home and I talked to Gina hysterical, thinking I would never see him again and then she never called me again. So here it is three months later saying she's so concerned about me. Oh, oh! If you were so concerned about me finger in the air, how about you pick up the phone and phone me? One time, how about that? So once again, the phone, this is the ongoing theme of the episode. Like you're either in the phone too much or you didn't use the phone enough.
Starting point is 01:01:06 This keeps coming up. Why don't you just pick up the phone and caller? Why don't you pick up the phone and caller? Oh, you're not the phone too much. You're not the phone too much. You're not the phone too much. So now Shannon is mad that Gina was making judgments about her situation with John and quarantine
Starting point is 01:01:27 and she's like, I have gone out of my way to be kind to Gina and saying, and then saying that behind my back, what are you trying to do? What are you doing? You know what that's like? That is like when you order an organic headboard from Wayfair and you get a bar stool instead. How what? Well I would suggest that she take a walk from the kitchen to the living room to get some stress out but I know she has a tiny little sad home and she couldn't do that so I would
Starting point is 01:01:56 never say that. Me? I would never say that. So Kelly is like well I guess what? Bro it in Shondra on the brink of divorce., and I heard she's really close with the woman. Yeah, yeah, and then, um, you know, it's like, Bro, what she says, one thing and then does another? Yeah, she's like, he's a hypocrisy and it's finest. Yeah. Yeah, why don't you say who Sherry is? Is she your pretenderess being lover?
Starting point is 01:02:19 Yeah, and then she does contrived. Yeah, that's confusing, because I didn't understand if Sherry was a girlfriend or not, because I thought she was for some reason. But I don't know, it's confusing to figure out. And then we see next time on the finale. Yeah, next week is the season finale. I think a perfectly, perfect length of a season
Starting point is 01:02:41 for Orange County. I, if it had gone on for literally one more episode, it would have been a problem. But I think this is wrapping up at the right time. It's I think they they clearly were you know, you know, undermined by the as were many other things by the coronavirus. But I think they really struggled to keep the storylines going after after they had to go into quarantine. And so yeah, I mean, I've had a pretty good time watching it. So I don't know. I don't, I'm never really a good one to such a season.
Starting point is 01:03:11 I thought the first half was good, but then I think it's sort of as like falling apart since they had to do quarantine. And I mean, understandable. I mean, that's hard. I mean, that's talk about a challenge for a season, you know, for many different things. But next week is the finale. So we have that and looking forward to it. And then
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