Watch What Crappens - RHOD: Not Coming From A Place of Careyes

Episode Date: September 20, 2019

It's a super, SUPER-sized "Real Housewives of Dallas" recap with special guest Rae Sanni filling in for Ronnie. First we have some chatter about the state of Bravo and our favorite Real Hous...ewives. Then we launch into the RHOD episode, which features the women heading to Mexico (but not before D'Andra has a professional blunder with Travis). To skip directly to the RHOD recap, head to about 00:16:43 Get tix to our live shows: http://watchwhatcrappens.com Subscribe on iTunes: http://bit.ly/ituneswwc Video Recaps: http://bit.ly/crappensvideo See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:14 Happy New Year! Happy New Year! Hey everyone, welcome to Watch For Crappins! A podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to watch. I'm Ben Mandelker from the Real Housewares of Kitchen Island. It's a Real Housewares of New York parody that's on YouTube. Go check it out.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Ronnie is not here today, but we have someone very wonderful and hilarious. She is so, so, so funny. And I believe you were, are you actually one sub for me? Yes, I did, it's the first time. Yeah, it's Ray Sonny. I've been with each other. I know now you're here with me. It's Ray Sonny, a comedian and writer on Black Lady Sketch, on HBO. What's up? Oh my guys, thank you for having me. I really, really appreciate it. This is really cool. I've already interrupted you, so this will go
Starting point is 00:02:58 well. Oh, it's fine. I mean, you've heard this podcast before. It's like nothing but interruptions, interrupt whenever you want. It's like survival of the fittest out on the show Okay, we got the shoes in shape Ray is super super funny and you are also a bravo super fan Insane yeah, this is true. I mean you have been and in fact we were talking before the show You have been like around since how so I put down with preps Yes, yes, yes when Matt yep, yeah, I'm a long time fan of you guys like, obsessed. It's kind of crazy.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I've never done this where I'm a fan of something and I climb my way into the star of its life. But here I am. It bends apart with... You've done so well. I mean, like, I'm so proud of you for crawling up into our little hearts. Actually, you have a very, another exciting distinction with the crap ends because when we did our first big show in New York City, at Gotham Comedy Bar, Comedy Club.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Comedy Club. Yes. We, it was our first time ever doing a big show. We didn't really know what we were doing, so I think we spent the first half half we did a recap of Orange County. And then we did like, listen to Spotlight live and you came up on stage and you were so funny on stage there on the mic. Yeah, it was a, you asked what, who was my favorite housewife and I made the case for Lisa Vanderpump. I would probably not make that case anymore. That's okay. But, you know, I haven't broken up with her. There are people who have broken
Starting point is 00:04:24 up with me. No. But yeah. I haven't broken up with her. There are people who have broken up with her. No. But yeah. Yeah, I haven't broken up with her either. She is definitely not my favorite anymore. Yeah. I'm not even, I am not even sure she's even a top 10. Ooh, top 10 maybe.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I haven't thought about it. I haven't thought about it. Ooh. But I still lovely Savannah Pump and I was totally on her side with everything that happened this past season. I just think that like she kind of peaked somewhere along the way and then she sort of like went into this very strange precious space full of pussy bows and rosé. And also like it's been a gift so I'm not denigrating it.
Starting point is 00:05:00 But Vanderpump rules ruined Lisa as a real house of the Beverly Hills. I agree. I agree. I think I've said it on the show many times that like when she started doing Vanderpump rules, she had to be sort of like the boss lady and she sort of got this like suddenly she was wearing ruffle cuffs and like the pretty both and like so self-important. Yeah, and also just more like buttoned up and funny-duty. And I think it started to carry over into Beverly Hills. Because remember when, I know this is not the franchise, we're supposed to be talking about. That's okay, it's Bravo. But remember when Lisa was hot?
Starting point is 00:05:36 Yes. Lisa used to be hot and now she, and lately she's just been like, Granny. Beautiful older lady. Yes, yes. And that's what, and I and that's what and I feel almost bad feeling that way because like who cares if she's hot versus
Starting point is 00:05:50 beautiful older lady, but I think there was something in the early years Lisa where she was just this gorgeous like hot woman who was also excessively wealthy and lived a fabulous life and didn't give a fuck about what anyone else was doing, you know, and like they would all bicker and she was just like, whatever, and maybe she would like, stir the pot a little for the fun of it or sip her tea cup, and that was like,
Starting point is 00:06:12 that was what was so great about it, is that she was like aspirational. And, and then she just sort of like, yeah, now she's. Well, the biggest thing of that, indicating that to me was, remember when Tom, too, it was like a running thing that Tom, too, had a crush on Lisa. And then it was like, maybe last season or two seasons ago,
Starting point is 00:06:32 where Tom brought back up his crush on Lisa, I think maybe when he and Tom won, we're discussing the bar, and he's like, well, I don't know how to talk in front of Lisa, like, she intimates me, she's so beautiful. And I was like, I don't believe this anymore talk in front of Lisa. Like, she intimates me. She's so beautiful. And I was like, I don't believe that's anymore. I don't believe that.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Exactly. Exactly. It was like, oh, because she did sort of start to surround her life with like lots of old lady dogs and little old ponies and really aggressive T-Cup stuff. And like, I just like, I don't know, because swan that just became like this near-catchy. And so like, I love her. And I've been on her side. I don't know, because swans that just became like this and a miniature voice.
Starting point is 00:07:05 And so like I love her and I've been on her side. I know she's shady and that's one of the things I love about her. That's what the other cast members don't seem to understand. Like the thing that they are trying to appeal to us, like oh you should be mad at least, like look at how she manipulates the show. It's like no, we know that she does that. Can you more, is my favorite housewife of all time.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Jacelle is coming very the fuck close. Jacelle is great. I love, always love Jacelle. I love to her for a minute, one, but this season, my Jacelle is giving me season six Kenya of real housewives. When it, Kenya on the reunion with the fan,
Starting point is 00:07:43 Jacelle is giving us that much manipulating her cast mates for the drama I love it yeah well Potomac is Potomac so here's the thing and this will tie in because we are gonna be talking about Dallas today yeah we are gonna talk about Dallas and Ben and I have been talking already for two hours we are chatterbox people don't understand that when Ray and I get together we are chatterboxes and don't understand that when Ray and I get together, we are chatterboxes and we get real serious. We start talking about like,
Starting point is 00:08:08 I can't believe cancel culture. And then next we're gonna know we're like talking about who knows what, like big brother. Although we actually did not talk about big brother. We're not gonna, we're gonna get after the show. But, you know, the franchises that have been like firing on all cylinders have been opposite New York, Potomac, Potomac, Dallas.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Those, I think are like the... Jersey, I don't know what it was. Jersey, I don't know what it was. I actually think the past three seasons have been very good, but last season was really the one where it was like universally accepted. Yeah, that it was really good. That Jersey is awesome. You know, I, because even when I'm not watching a franchise, I listen to y'all's episodes. So I broke up with Jersey and then I came back because you kept telling me that Marge was funny. Yeah, I like this show even like Honestly, the Siggy Flicker era there's two seasons. She's a psycho. She is a psycho And it's too bad because she really could have been the future of that show and she she messed it up herself
Starting point is 00:09:04 She got herself into a tizzy the anti-Semitism stuff was was That's too bad because she really could have been the future of that show and she mess it up herself. She got herself into a tizzy. The anti-Semitism stuff was bonkers. It was wrong. It was like she ruined it for herself. And it was an ego thing that made her not accept that she was wrong. Because she clearly knew, like there's no way that she could have. Which really should be something we should be praising because that's what we looked
Starting point is 00:09:22 for in a housewife. But it wasn't pleasant when she did that. No, it got annoying. But that being said, the point is this, Potomac, Dallas, New York, New Jersey, they're firing on all cylinders because they really don't have anything to lose. And also Orange County is back. I have to say, I think Orange County is back. I love Kelly and I actually weirdly do like Gina a lot
Starting point is 00:09:54 So I'm in there for a Kelly and a Gina and then I get the extra blessing of brown wind as Vicky called her and her mom Yeah, no, I think it did like the OC is based Orange County right now is where New Jersey was when Sikie was there Which is like coming back back to life. Okay, got it now. So happy with that. I don't know why I've decided to rank these shows. I think it's because you mentioned Jacelle. Oh, yeah. But I think, at the point is this, like I love when... It's a smaller franchise,
Starting point is 00:10:15 it's the ones that aren't in the cultural zeitgeist for everybody. They're not a win. Yeah. But the people who really pay attention are like, no, you gotta sit down and watch damage. Yeah. Exactly. You know, like, because Atlantis coasting a little bit off of, name recognition, live viewer.
Starting point is 00:10:30 But also Nini, I think, is a real problem for the show. I don't think she's gotta go. She's gotta go. She's gotta go. Kenya, I'm so glad if it's true that she's coming back. It is true. It is true. The show needs her so badly,
Starting point is 00:10:41 because she knows, like, Jazelle and some of the other great housewives, that's where we're coming back to. Yes, exactly. She knows how to stir the pot, keep the drama going without becoming too. And Leanne, and that's the segue. Leanne Lockin is fantastic for that. And just watching her this season, and I, every episode I feel like I do this, and so
Starting point is 00:11:03 annoying for people. But I keep comparing to the last season of Beverly Hills, which was really a lot of people hated that. Yeah. And I think one of the reasons why is you see on these shows, like Potomac and now Dallas, you see how Leanne, like, how she works the show, how she knows how to do it.
Starting point is 00:11:20 She knows she's not bigger than the show, she knows her role in it. I think Lisa Renina knows that too, but she just has a hard time with what she's were given. Oh no, I actually think that Lisa Rina, if she were on a different franchise, I would like her way more than I do. I feel like Lian versus Lisa Rina is Lian.
Starting point is 00:11:39 The show feels like Lian, right? Like Dallas, while these women are so wealthy, they probably are some of the wealthiest across the franchises. The show came in carny and poor, like Leanne. And so she's very specifically good for, I mean the fight on the tracks, like the, that was, and the show still feels that way.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Whereas Rina came in and broke a show that's all about cracks in China. And Rina came in with a sledgehammer and cracked all the China in there. And I think if Rina were on something messier, she'd be thriving. I don't know. I still don't know. I know you've told me that theory before. I don't think that Rina broke it. I actually think that Calvertris has broken it. Oh, why?
Starting point is 00:12:27 Because They're hate. I feel like all right. I thought we're losing a Dallas and Ben does his theory every single day But it's you listen people we're all Bravo fans No, because Kyle Richards I used to think it was actually Erica, but I don't think it's Erica anymore. No, she's just lame Well, I just think that Erica doesn't give us a lot Yeah, and I think that and I have a theory though if someone doesn't. Well, I just think that Erica doesn't give us a lot. Yeah, and it's like- And I have a theory though, if someone doesn't give a lot, then it inspires other people to not give a lot.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Oh, I see. And it's just also an opportunity where someone who could give is not on the show, right? Right. Oh, yes, right. But I don't actually don't think it's Erica's fault. I think that actually Kyle, Kyle has, over the past few years, as the agency agency has grown and she's had movie developments,
Starting point is 00:13:06 et cetera. She has a brand for tech. She protects her brand. She censors herself. And when people start to do that, it affects an entire show. And she's such a big person. She's like a such a big presence on the show that people follow. And so now it's all about like, oh my god, you look beautiful. Oh, what are you wearing? That great? I bought this but that's why Potomac and Dallas are doing so well right now because what they're both on season four right? Yes See three four and five I've found if you don't get new New cast members is the season where they're famous enough to be egotistical so they're
Starting point is 00:13:49 where they're famous enough to be ego-tistical, so they're nuts, but they're not so famous and have a brand yet to protect. So they can lose their minds the way a narcissistic housewife will lose her mind. If Ladom takes off in two seasons, Karen's gonna suck. And every beauty, every human... The big if, big if! We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind.
Starting point is 00:14:09 We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind.
Starting point is 00:14:17 We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. We're like wet wind. husband's brand I think to some degree. But Karen is going to be a Monique soon.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Are you saying that Monique is not protecting the not-for-lazy mom's brand? Which is also skyrocketed. So here's the thing. So we're going to talk about Dallas today. Before we get really into it, of course I just want to mention that next week we are going to Charlotte, North Carolina. We're going to be part of the Queen City comedy experience, which is really exciting. Congratulations. Thank you very much. We're doing a huge theater,
Starting point is 00:14:49 and they actually just released a whole bunch of tickets in the balcony. So, they're more tickets now available. That's gonna be awesome. And then the next day, we're going to Nashville to City Winery. We're doing a show there. So, okay.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yeah. Okay, Nashville. Nashville. So that's at WatcherCrapins.com. Also, if you missed the announcements earlier this week, we have officially announced the date of this the next crappies awards, which is gonna be Yeah, January 20th. I'm sorry January 17th
Starting point is 00:15:18 2020 at the Regent Theater downtown LA. I went to the last one. It was fun. Thank you. Yeah, that was a super super fun show. Kate was really good on it. She is so funny. She's so good. And Captain Sandy surprised us. We didn't think she was gonna be there. Well, you told me you got sick, right? I had like, I don't know, stomach issues. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, but I saw up until Stasi and Ariana yeah, so that's super fun. So tickets for that are go on sale Friday And we are also have Detroit tickets going on sale on Friday, but both Detroit and the crappies the pre-sales happening now We've actually sold a bunch of the crappies tickets So if you want to get I'm not saying that to brag. I'm just saying like if you want to come see us hop on it now because You better come see these guys hop on it now. Because-
Starting point is 00:16:05 You better come see these guys before they two famous for you. Ooh! Oh! God, you're the best guest ever. And then real quickly, let me tell you guys the other cities. We have two shows in Atlanta. We're going to Carbure, North Carolina. Richmond, Virginia, Tampa, Florida, Fort Lauderdale,
Starting point is 00:16:21 Indianapolis, two shows in Chicago, two shows in New York, St. Louis, Philadelphia, Denver, Seattle, Columbus, Ohio, and Houston. They're going literally everywhere. That's where you're going. We're going to Great Nack, or just get it. Yeah, so go to WatchUpCrapins.com for those tickets.
Starting point is 00:16:38 It's gonna be so, so fun. We always have a great time. And if you haven't seen a live show, like, truly, I've been to I think two regular live shows and the crappies and these guys give good show so you better go you guys have heard the podcast from the live show Imagine how fun they are in person. Oh, thank you Ray I wait and one other thing I have to plug about Charlotte which is that The trailer for next week's orange county it looks so amazing and that's where we're recapping there.
Starting point is 00:17:05 So I mean, you guys have to come. Okay, so let's dive into Dallas before we start talking more like high-level Bravo theory. Okay, so first of all, how are you feeling about this season? So it's weird, I can't explain why. It feels different, but I do like it. Oh I know why it's because I love Deandra and I can't make the case for loving her anymore and it's hard for me to let go. It's one of this. Yeah I think I think the reason why I was
Starting point is 00:17:39 worried the season wouldn't be good but the fact that right from the first episode just these crazy cheating allegations were pretty Jessica and Jeremy like worry the season wouldn't be good, but the fact that right from the first episode, just these crazy cheating allegations were pretty Jessica and Jeremy, like boom right at the gate. I was like okay, this just still has it. The stuff going on with Deandra and her mother, this, I mean it's so next level, the fact that her mom basically gave her a failing company. Gavre a failing company is it's nuts. I was texting Ben and I said like the relationship with D and D Andra feels like, you know, like a Southern Gothic novel about the fall of a once noble family and this is the mother and the daughter and it's a metaphor for the fall of the South.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Like this is what it is. It's so good. it is so good. So just that alone. And of course, you know, Cameron Westcott is just like one of my favorites. So you, the first season she was on, you kept trying to tell us, you were like, I love Cameron, she's so funny, she's so funny.
Starting point is 00:18:38 And I was like, I don't get it. She didn't do it for me. But I love food. Killed me. And I'm'm like this is a genius. She's a genius and there's so many gems we'll get to today. I mean yeah like when I first met Carrie was when I went to the Andrus house and had a taco salad. I mean like
Starting point is 00:18:58 the fact that she's like, what? And I'm like does her husband talk to her every day? She's like, how do you? How's it possible? I don't know, I don't know. She's amazing. And is your commitment to pink is Lisa Van der Pum blebbel?
Starting point is 00:19:15 I know, I know. Almost legally blonde level. I mean, and the dogs. She's like low-key coming for Lisa Van der Pum. I mean last time I checked Lisa Van der P low-key coming for Lisa Vanderbilt. I mean, last time I checked, Lisa Vanderbilt did not make pink dog food. Oh. I needed a camera in really, but she tried.
Starting point is 00:19:30 She tried. She was, tonight she says it's still there. She was, well, no, but meaning that it wasn't really very pink. It was more like a, it was more like a turd with a pink hue. Like, yeah, like something went wrong in your digestive system.
Starting point is 00:19:44 So anyways, the episode opens up with the usual things of like you know we see what everyone's doing little pops of this and that you have the Jeremy trying to get the answer to wake up which I always think it's so funny when they do that which is a full face of wake up like she had like you clearly did your face that way you could be lying in bed when the camera's coming over right you know what always just me out though about the wake up full face scenes, there's never makeup on the pillow, and that is fucking impressive. Yeah, maybe not.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Never makeup. Are they wearing like makeup resistant pillowcases? Like, what is happening to it? By the way, I just realized this whole opening thing that we get through, because we're gonna get to Travis in a second. This is not a good advertisement for Hard Night Good Morning. Nope. Nope. Like this was like, this was sort of like, sort of annoying night, hard morning. A annoying night, hard morning in her case. I was like, girl, you represent a hard night good morning. And what better way to do it then to wake up and be
Starting point is 00:20:40 like, I only got three hours because my, I had a hair issue, but look at my face, I'm fresh. Well, that's why her business is failing because she don't know how to market like you do. and be like, I only got three hours because my outta here is shoe, but look at my face and I'm fresh. Well, that's why her business is failing, because she'll know how to market like you do. Thank you. Thank you. And you know that Dee was sitting at home and being like, well, I would've done it.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And... We would've seen Dee waking up with her green creams. Dee, she is... Ron and I got to meet her last year, cause she came to our Dallas show, and just meeting her in person is so scary. I can imagine. There's something that woman wields a lot of power.
Starting point is 00:21:15 She's got big dick energy. Okay. You know, without the dick. So Tammy Fe Baker, but with big dick energy. Yeah, she's small, but like she looks at you, and you just feel like the amount of judgment, she's just like, she's just like, she's small, but like she looks at you and you just feel like the amount of judgment is just like she's just like she's got like a tummy gun and it's just like a judgment going like right through your soul. Did she end up like a yacht? Oh she's great. Yeah, she's great.
Starting point is 00:21:35 I loved her. I loved her, but I was intimidated by her the entire time. Okay, so we ultimately wind up with Travis at the office. He's sitting there and he's like FaceTime is definitely to basically he's basically say that hey, Deanne I had a meeting with Deanne Dora at 8 a.m. but it's like 912 and she's not here and I cleared my whole schedule for her, his whole locker-mating schedule. Which is why. Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?
Starting point is 00:22:09 Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?
Starting point is 00:22:17 Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? You are starting your meetings at 8 a.m. Trump has really given the locker rooms and lockers thing above
Starting point is 00:22:26 Oh, hey, you know, that's true 2016 Travis and killing it. What do you think about Travis by the way? I Notice that he seems to love Stephanie a lot more this season And I mean, I like that because last year he was a fucking dick. Yeah, he was a huge day He So yeah, there's something about Travis where someone commented in our group like why is it that when I watched the scene with Travis I got turned on and like He does it for y'all. No, I didn't say that. I think someone did it. You said something about him.
Starting point is 00:22:55 But I will say. Yeah, so yeah, Ron and I met him and there was something weird about him because he looks the same He's just like this. Oh, like it looks but he exudes sexual energy in a way that like it's very strange. Yeah, there's something like like, like, manly about him. He's like, let's do shots. He's like, why am I turned on by this person? I mean, you know, people who are like, he grew up wealthy as hell from what. He's got a hot brother.
Starting point is 00:23:20 His brother's hot? Hot. Okay. Travis is not bad looking. So if his brother's hotter, well, I'm looking for... I don't know if it's like, if it's like a half brother or not because the half brother's like, he's sort of like half Asian. Okay. I don't know if Travis is half Asian.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Travis looks like he could be part Asian. Yeah, I don't know if it was like, he's surprisingly half Asian, you know? But he's got like a hot brother. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay, that's the thing that family. But he's got that. He grew up with money and then he went to like a hot brother. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Something that family. But he's got that.
Starting point is 00:23:45 He grew up with money and then he went to Harvard Business School. Like, they're just gonna be aggressive a certain way. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Which in some ways can feel like I wouldn't want to be around that, but then I can also see how that can be very exciting to be around at the same time, you know? Right. If you're a woman like Stephanie, whom I adore by the way, she's great. She's great. I love Stephanie.
Starting point is 00:24:06 It makes sense to me why she would like him. Exactly. And it also, I mean, look at her. It makes sense why he like her. It all makes sense. Everything, you know what, I love that they make so much sense. They make so much sense. I love when things make sense.
Starting point is 00:24:19 So anyway, so Travis is based on me, Stephanie, and he's like, you know, I cleared the schedule and she's like, oh my god She actually canceled and I told you forgot to tell you because she texted me at 1.30 in the morning and She said she can't make it. He's like, well, like he's like, well, what what did she say and she's and so she reads this text which is like Dear Stephanie, I'm getting my I've since 6pm and I was supposed to leave here after two hours but then my hair turned red and she is that at three or four times mother and it won't turn back long and I'm just like I'm not unprofessional at all but I
Starting point is 00:24:55 have to sleep I'm sorry I'm like, that's the most harsh word. Like Stephanie, like, I came down with a stomach flu, I've got gas, my mom is in a hospital. Like just definitely lie lie Stomach flu I've got gas mom a decent a hospital Kill a grandparent. Yeah, just say you know it lie and have it also work your benefits say I'm so sorry Mama D is in financial ruin at the moment. I have to be with her So that way it's like she can kill two birds of one stone like get back at her mom and have an excuse It's like she can kill two birds of one stone like get back at her mom and have an excuse Exactly and then further highlight why you really need the meeting so he can reschedule it Yeah, or or say can we reschedule? Oh that that part too. Yeah, but to say I'm not unprofessional at all
Starting point is 00:25:36 But I have to sleep like that's like it that's like an intern. That's something that interns say right You know it's crazy and if it was an a.M meeting, okay, you sleep like three to five or whatever, you go and hand it a quick meeting and then go home to sleep. That's how I did college and every fucking year of my 20s after that. It's like how everyone does everything. Yeah. I'm sure what was like the unspoken thing is that she has to do her face because she's gonna be on camera Then you stay up all night girl. I don't know to tell you. Yeah, I mean obviously if you seem to wake up with that full face of makeup
Starting point is 00:26:12 Shouldn't be an issue so then so Travis is like mad that there's a hair emergency and Travis is like, you know, it's like well, I'm not gonna take another meeting with her. I'm not and Stephanie's like stop it. You're's like, well, I'm not going to take another meeting with her. I'm not. And Stephanie was like, stop it. You're not Beyonce, which was amazing. It was amazing. Didn't totally make sense, but, but I liked it. No, I loved it. I was like, I love that she ribs him.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And this is why I thought he likes her more, it seems to like her more than he did last season. He was amused by that in a way. I don't think he was as amused by her last year. Right. Well, I was impressed that he knew who Beyoncé was. It's for you. I mean Beyoncé is so big now even guys like Travis know who she is. Imagine if you were Beyoncé though. Oh my God. First of all good on Stephanie for
Starting point is 00:26:55 bagging Beyoncé. Yeah. Just imagine Travis doing homecoming, just coming down those hairs, just sweating and then being out of breath. Just dancing in a suit. Yeah. And then I have the performances hands on a zipper. Woo, just give me one second. Just clicking his hair back. One second, one second.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Okay, we're back. So Travis is going to call Deandra and stuff. He's like, no, no, no, no, don't ple- no, please, don't be like this. And she's like, you know, Travis has this like really aggressive energy. And like, it's like really good in business. But like with personal issues, it's not, you know, like, you know, like when Travis has to wait around,
Starting point is 00:27:34 he sort of becomes like, trimaya carry. I'm sorry, it's corny, but it made me feel good. I laughed, I was like, it barely worked. Actually, it's for, doesn't work at all. Tremiah, I care. But I liked it. She so, she epitomizes everything. I think I wouldn't like in a person.
Starting point is 00:27:55 And I adore her. I adore her so much. And the fact that she has equated him to two different pop icons in the back, you know, in one in like within 30 seconds, I have to respect that. You have to, you got to, you got to. And, oh, and he's, like, you look so pretty, Stephanie, and I was like, oh, look at you,
Starting point is 00:28:15 you got dragged in the comments section all last season. Yeah. You put your dump pool in the middle of the house. That pool, that fucking pool. So, so now Travis calls up Deandra and leaves the message. He's like, hey Deandra, it's Travis here. As you know, we had a meeting at 8 o'clock and you didn't come through on that.
Starting point is 00:28:32 So I did my part and my wife got the message, but we did not get until 9 a.m. Anyway, very disappointed. I think it's very disrespectful. Quite honestly. Just advise, first thing about business, you got a shop or nothing's gonna happen. Anyway, have birthday by. I was like, what? Didn't open with it. I know. That shade was actually very impressive. The fact that he ends with that by the way, happy birthday. Bye. It's incredible. I
Starting point is 00:29:01 You know the art of being passive-aggressive and It's incredible. You know, the art of being passive aggressive and aggression really being what comes through is really impressive. And he did it as a man. It's very easy to accidentally come off more aggressive than you want to be. He was passive aggressive to perfection. Yeah. You did a very good job.
Starting point is 00:29:18 He was like, it was like very, you know, not a lot of stuff to get in the way. He just sort of said what it was. Although, he flurred with disaster with his little first thing about business. You got to show up or nothing's gonna happen. Condescending. Very condescending. Like, it's like saving for Shark Tank,
Starting point is 00:29:36 but you're not on. I know you have a pool in your living room, but you're not on Shark Tank. But it was okay because he made up for it with that shady, anyway, Happy birthday bye. I died. And also fuck like the the editors everybody hates Deandra right? Like it's coming through now. Production hates her too right? I feel like it but I can't be sure. I mean they gave her an ally the season with Carrie right right? Yeah, but like, how did we get that far into the episode
Starting point is 00:30:06 without ever knowing it was Dan? Just birthday. You know what it was, because it was Dan just birthday with the last night. The last night, because the shit that roast. Not a roast. Oh, right, oh, I'm smart. I promise.
Starting point is 00:30:17 No, no, but it's hard to remember. It was not clear. It was not clear. I was like, what? Oh, so he sang Happy Birthday like, oh, I didn't see you. I think so. Okay, gotta go. Ray, it was like, what? Oh, so he's saying, having birthday like, oh, I didn't see you. I think so. Okay, gotta go.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Ray, it sounds like you're having a little bit of a hard night, good morning. Maybe a good night, a hard morning. Anyway, so now we go over to a place called Nardos and Leanne is there on tree's dress, because guess what, it's like seven weeks till our wedding and classic Bravo style. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Because you know all these people with their Bravo weddings, they can't plan their way. They're like, I'm not going to plan my wedding because I'm hoping that Bravo's going to do it for me. Right. But I don't know if Bravo's going to do it for me until I've got about seven weeks. Right? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:30:55 They're not even going to give you a text earlier like, oh girl, start looking into dresses. They're like, nope. Lose your mind right now. Yeah. So Leana showed up. Nardos is the dressmaker. Yeah. Kuturriye, I guess.
Starting point is 00:31:08 And Kuturriye. Kuturriye. And Leana's there with her gay Steve, who is like the most Dallas gay you've ever met. He's bewicked. He's so paisely red. I mean, he's wearing like the wallpaper of like a boardelow, but like, yeah, but he's hilarious, you know
Starting point is 00:31:27 so they show up and she wants, you know, Leanne wants basically a dress for her, which ones are wedding dress and Hands like, oh, I've been looking at magazines, but like everyone there's like 10 years old Do they make up magazines for old brads? Anything for a carnies, any carnie braddle, carnie braddle magazines. That's the encirculation Elderly carnie, please. I don't know. I'm not going to hurt elderly. No, sorry. Not at all. Not at all. I know what you meant So they're playing the dress and they're talking about what she wants everything and Steve is like and she wants a long train Like almost as long as a CVS or seat I was like you know Steve I appreciate
Starting point is 00:32:09 That's a clever one. It was good. They are 10 miles long. They are so then you'll have just bought toothpaste Yeah, nothing you literally I like will buy like a cad bird cream egg and then there's 10,000 coupons for another crab Exactly So anyway, so finally they come up with this whole dress and then Nardos is like, okay, so what's your budget? And Leon's like, oh, well, let me think about this while I'm on TV and promoting your business. Let me think.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Oh, I don't know, let me see. Let me look at my wall, see how much I have. Let's see, I don't see the corny tickets out there We'll get those out of there and then how so much nothing in this wallet so much nothing except being famous and making people around me famous Crazy so right she he interferes. Well, but well he basically So, right, he interferes. Well, well, basically, she's like, well, she doesn't wanna give a number because she doesn't want to pay anything.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Right, she doesn't want to pay anything. So she's like, well, you tell me in notice, it's like, oh, like $10,000. Oh, right, sorry, I skipped. She know that Nardo's the probably thing to herself. Like, oh, well, you know, you're on TV. So $10,000, that's like a discount for the $25,000 it would normally cost.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Right. And Leanne goes, mmm, and she gives this like puppy dog look like, mmmm, you know, like, and notice it's like seven, seven thousand. Leanne's like, I'm just gonna look in the other direction and look out there and see if any of my fans are walking by because I am famous, you know, you know, because these cameras here make people famous. Sandra Bullock smiled at me in a movie before. What do you mean pay for it? I'm sorry I was in a movie 20 years ago Sandra Bullock Sandy. How much is that again? How much is that again? So then Steve has to then he then he steps up like a loyal game. He goes,
Starting point is 00:33:57 well you see, Narvis. Leanne always has so many people who want to do things for her, you know? And she's so hesitant and humble, she's so humble about accepting things, you know? Because of all the things that she's done for people, she has a hard time accepting things in return. So, I just want you to consider all the things that Lianne has done for you. Like, for instance, these beautiful cameras that are here in your shop on a national cable tale vision show. What's fascinating about Steven is he's not just her advocate. He's her poverty advocate. Can you imagine that his only Leanne would have a bewigged,
Starting point is 00:34:38 poverty advocate at a bridal store like that is insane. And like it was like so shameless and yet then Leanne's like well, this is that awkward time when like You sort of are like I'm too poor to pay for it. She's like messing at all and like I'm too poor to pay for it Which may be true by the way I should believe that yeah, I kind of believe it too But she but she's kind of like fessing up that she just does not want to pay for it You know Like sort of she's like is that awkward time? We're like well, I've done things for that she just does not want to pay for it, you know. So like, sort of, she's like, is that awkward time when you're like,
Starting point is 00:35:07 well, I've done things for you and I don't want to pay. So, and she's like looking away like a kid who got in trouble, you know. Oh my God. She's got a good power. She's got a good, let me get away with this power. She does it. I mean, like, and then Nardo says, like, you know what? You have done so much for me that it would be an honor. An honor. And I will do this favor for you.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I was like, an honor to make a dress for Leanne Lackin? What's the honor? Well, we don't know who else, Artos is dressing. Okay, good enough. I mean, she is a Cateriée in Dallas. True.
Starting point is 00:35:41 So she's probably, I don't know, dressing Jessica Simpson Although Remi from the most recent season a project runway is from Dallas. Oh, is he lives in Dallas. So I guess that doesn't build a case for now He was not very good. He was not very good. He was not he had he had like one good look and then Made the same thing things. Yeah, you know, okay, the point is this, fashion and Dallas, always questionable. But Leanne got her free dress, so there was that. So now we have Stephanie at home, and her life coach, Carmen, comes over.
Starting point is 00:36:17 I'm still like a little on, I'm a little borderline about life coaches versus like therapists or you know I kind of feel like to be a life coach like to be a therapist like to be a psychologist you have to go through like a lot of school schooling you know and like a lot of real theory that's been and to be a life coach I guess just the starting overhouse is really I feel like the starting overhouse is really informed all my opinions about life coaches. Is that a Yonla's first series? Yonla, and then there was a,
Starting point is 00:36:50 I forget the name of the other therapists who's on, did you ever watch it? I think vaguely because I vaguely remember Tony Braxton's sister's being on it. I think that happened, I don't remember. Okay, okay. But it was the sort of show where if someone were having an issue, they were very pessimistic there would probably be an episode where
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yonla or the other lady would say you know your problem is that You don't look at the glasses being half full you look at as being half empty So I brought you into a room that's full of glasses and I want you to fill them halfway and then see them all as being Yeah, oh, yeah, I'm a still like prop therapy prop therapy is always you know you've got an egg in your hand And then you've had another child put another egg in your hand Well that happened in we what show did that just happen in where someone was holding all those eggs? Oh god, there was something a bravo. We just watched Maybe I've completed those two. I think Yala made a man who had like 27 kids. Oh, yes that was it. No Yala made a man who had like 27
Starting point is 00:37:53 kids hold all the baby dolls because he was a dead people and he couldn't hold any of them as she says, see how you let your children down. Yeah that's it's I mean I saw one episode of a Yon Love Fixed My Life and someone was like, I just wanna close the chat, this chapter of my life. So then she brought, I think it was Shirei actually. And they've been Shirei with me all the time. Don't quote me on it.
Starting point is 00:38:16 But she brought this woman to a bookstore and she goes, I know you wanna close a chapter of your life so I brought you to a bookstore. I'm like, how the, like, because she's physically closing a book, I'm not sure that's going to. They're so literalist on a show. Life coaching, that's what life coaching is. Life coaching is not therapy.
Starting point is 00:38:33 It's finding really, really, really on the nose metaphors. Yeah, and so like I don't want to insult any of our listeners who are life coaches or who have any goes and sees them, but I'm just saying all I know of life coaches is what I see on TV and it cracks me up. And what I, Yana is really good about this
Starting point is 00:38:49 and this is why I didn't like this life coach a lot. I hope that I like it. That's what I'm saying. She was okay, but the material was too heavy at that for a life coach. Yes. Because like on a Yana, she'll get to a point where she's like,
Starting point is 00:39:01 well, you should actually see someone who can really help you out. So that's good. Oh, that's good I mean so often is usually like a clinical thing Yeah, but this I was like, I don't know man if I want to be coached out of suicide I want to be therapy Yeah, that's the thing. I feel like a life coach is really good for I don't know about my career right now or I'm in this relationship You know stuff like that sometimes a good, something tangible that you need to empower yourself
Starting point is 00:39:27 to take over but not dying isn't coach work. Yeah, so basically what happened is that Stephanie, last season she opened up about trying to commit suicide when she was younger and a felt. Diabai, sorry. Oh, you're so right, thank you. I used to work for Suicide Prevention Foundation. No, that's really, no, I actually just recently learned that it's just hard to start to
Starting point is 00:39:47 Yeah, when I'm saying commit on TV tonight I was like it like it's not up to my ears now because The implication is that commit is a sin to take your life is a crime or a sin and died by is just Focus on the method of it and the illness and you're not to blame for being unwell enough to take your life. Exactly. And you know if any episode really could illustrate that, this episode that really treated
Starting point is 00:40:17 suicide seriously with all the respected deserves. I know. Well at least they did flash the thing at the end. But we'll get to that. Like only on scene two. Welcome to the Crappens Method, we're on scene two. Yes. Commissions. Here comes one right now.
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Starting point is 00:40:58 We're starting off with a pretty messy love triangle between Selena Gomez and Justin and Haley Bieber, a seemingly innocent TikTok of Selena talking about her laminated eyebrows. It snowballed into a full-blown alleged feud. But it doesn't seem like fans are letting up anytime soon. Despite both Selena and the Bieber's making public statements denying any bad blood. How much of this is teen jealousy and lovers quarreling and how much of it is a
Starting point is 00:41:25 carefully crafted narrative designed to sell albums. Follow this and tell wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon music or wonder ya. So anyway so Stephanie is talking about how at first she felt very open about it like being like like she felt like she had a weight off her shoulders but then a lot of people started reaching out to her and she couldn't deal with the pressure of having to be there for everyone. And so she started to spiral back towards the pressure. It's triggering. Absolutely. And so she started taking anti-depressants. And, you know, would you good for her? Like, if you need the help, you should go get it. And if it requires some chemical adjustment, it might just need to don't be ashamed. Yeah and so then we
Starting point is 00:42:08 saw a lot of the the life coach being like what would Stephanie today say to young Stephanie that sort of stuff and everything and then you can't cancel shit. Yeah yeah it was very but it was nice and I liked the life the life coaches hair. I did too. I actually feel good. I was like, you look really good. If that person came into my house to coach me, I'd be like, I want to see you. Okay, I'll buy this.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I'll buy this right now. She had her shit together. Actually, he's giving me like, like for some reason I kept thinking Connie Brinn. Oh, no, that's exactly correct. I was like, because I would take advice from Connie Brinn. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:42:40 I feel like I- Because she needs a glass of wine, it would have been great. Like yeah, if Connie Brinn came in right now and said, listen, Ben and Ray, this is what you have to do. Ben become a youth car dealer. Ray moved to Omaha. I'd be like, Yeah, I feel good about what Connie Brinn just said. So then at the end of all, there's Stephanie's like, and that's why I'm going to Mexico to get away from myself. I was like, that was not the conclusion I was expecting.
Starting point is 00:43:02 But you also have to take yourself to Mexico. It's not like she gets the least happening at home and being Mexico. Also, it's a feature to Mexico. Don't you know what I'm like? I had this beat. It's a job, I'm like, yeah. Yeah, beat Love Frey, whatever.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Beat Frey, love. So now then there was like this really odd artistic moment. Did you notice this? There was like an inside the dryer cam from like Jeremy's like odd artistic moment. Did you notice this? There was like an inside the dryer cam from like Jeremy's like doing laundry because. Oh, where are we right? And he's like putting stuff into the dryer and the camera's like inside the dryer.
Starting point is 00:43:33 It's like in the little shop of horrors when the camera's inside the mouth during the dental part. Don't judge me. You don't have to say anymore, I've already judged. I've already judged. I like Rick Moranis another thing. You were just tweeting about Rick Moranis.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Yeah, because I was thinking about him from like Ghostbusters and stuff. Well, you gotta get some, you gotta get some Seymour Crelaborn in your life. So you know back, sorry for derailment. No. You know back when you're from the New York area, you're from Long Island, right? Mm-hmm. Okay. Westchester.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Westchester, my bad. I was drinking my coffee. I had to like flail my hand like excuse me No, but my my family is my family is a lot of my family is from long Island Yes channel 11 to remember WPX before they became WB and then CW they would play movies every Saturday all the time It would be like the same movie so I've seen around It's just on little shop of horrors. This is not count as seeing. I'm sorry. Whatever this is This like trying to appeal to my nostalgia. I at least I know that Pam and Gina were two of the singers That's true. That's true, it's a fun little fact. And in fact, the one time I met
Starting point is 00:44:47 Tashina Arnold like 10 years ago, I was at something and she was there. And I walked up to her and I said, I love doing the little shop of ours. She was like, she was like surprised. I bet she really liked it. That was the one you reached out for, yeah. By the way, it's playing in Pasadena.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I'm gonna try to get tickets. So there's that. The theater or the movie? The theatrical. Okay. I don I'm gonna try to get tickets. So there's that the theater or the movie the the theatrical okay? Yeah, I'll figure out how to go to all right so anyway, so we have this very dramatic shot of inside like why I don't know Why I appreciate Dallas trying to change things up with an inside the world pool dryer, you know But like it was it seemed like it was just what caught me off guard I mean it's just trying to get Finest Jeremy. Yeah, many different angles and
Starting point is 00:45:27 This is what he looks like to a dryer Hey, he's hey, he's throwing laundry in my face, but God, he's how he does that So then Deandra asked the question, which I would never ask He goes why are you doing laundry? I'm like Let him do the lot like you should be so happy She goes, why are you doing laundry? I'm like, shut up! Let him do the laundry. You should be so happy. Also, he's a house husband. He's supposed to do the laundry. And also, why would you ever ask anyone why they're doing laundry? I think it's pretty self-explanatory.
Starting point is 00:45:56 It's like, why are you cleaning up that pool of vomit on the floor? Oh, because there's a pool of vomit on the floor. Yeah, as we learn later, Deandra is a slob, so she doesn't see the value of things like clenliness and clean cool. And she obviously feels threatened when someone is actually trying to improve their slobbery in some sort of way. Are you judging me? That's why you're doing that mother! Mother! So Deandra still is not called Travis back Because what a dickhead mind you sorry what Travis yeah, why am you calling him back? Oh, yeah, of course
Starting point is 00:46:36 Immediately immediately as soon as you woke up so she hasn't called and she's like, you know as a man I wouldn't expect him to understand What what you know like like that about the hair thing and Jeremy's like I don't understand either by their way Uh, and I I don't understand. Do you understand? I don't understand I don't understand why you would on national television Well, I guess you wasn't doing it on national television, but I just don't I just would say I am so sorry I am like we said before lie lie Why lie why lie why why you making me pay more attention to your hair because now in that scene I was like yeah,, hey, I do look bad. Thanks, Deandra, with a notice.
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Starting point is 00:47:34 You know. So, uh, so basically, like, let's just say I fucked up whatever. And Deandra goes, yes, I know. I did, but I just, I didn't realize he didn't get the message. Okay. Um, like Stephanie didn't relay it. And it's not her fault, it's mine. And Jeremy's like, yeah, it is, you're fun. You texted at 1.30 in the morning.
Starting point is 00:47:51 That's insane. Do it at like 8 p.m. or 9 p.m. but like 1.30 in the morning. You can't. So now Deandra calls up, and it's kind of funny because you sort of think that she's going to be all like tough, but she does something that I want to make fun of her, but I know I would do the same thing which is Which is start to like choke up? Do you know what I thought that is so interesting that you received it that way audience? I'm a negress. I was like that is the power of white woman tears. She was summoning it
Starting point is 00:48:22 Probably that too, okay, well what wait I can't summon the power of wetland No, no no apparent it's like it's a when I get into like a really stressful Confrontational situation. I have like an uncontrollable response where I start to like almost cry really just choke When you feel guilty? Just anything, like, and apparently it's like a survival thing. It's like a weird survival instinct. And some people, the way that they're survival instinct is is that they get aggro or they, I don't know what they do,
Starting point is 00:48:57 but for me, it's like, so when she calls up and she's like, her, her, her, her Travis, it's Deandra and I'm just gonna say, I am really professional even though I'm crying on the phone right now to you and I just want you to know, uh, it'll never happen again and my hair looks terrible, that's any consolation, it looks terrible, like I'm on camera right now, my mother hates me and I got a copy of this and it doesn't work and now, Jeremy's doing laundry make me feel bad about the fact that I've been on London in three weeks. But I'm sorry. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:49:28 She, I had no, I like, I want to believe that it is just a survival thing. I want to believe it's an involuntary response. But that will be a little bit of a shot of make Travis feel bad. It could be a little bit of a shot of make Travis feel bad. It could be a little bit of a shot of make Travis feel bad. It could be a little bit of a shot of make Travis feel bad. It could be a little bit of a shot of make Travis feel bad. It could be a little bit of a shot of make Travis feel bad.
Starting point is 00:49:44 It could be a little bit of a shot of make Travis feel bad. It could be a little bit of a shot of make Travis feel bad. It could be a little bit of a shot of make Travis feel bad. It could be a little bit of a shot of make Travis feel bad. It could be a little bit of a shot she's had to use that with her mom several times. Exactly. Exactly. It's like, okay, she cried, you know, but did mom and Dee's like, I don't do a fuck about those tears. I've used this weapon too. So what next? Yeah. Yeah, mom and Dee's like, I am still holding on to this TVVCR combo in my office. Okay, that's how hardcore I am.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Your tears are not gonna affect me. Then of course Travis is like, well anytime people apologize, everything is perfect up to that. Just give me a shot, we'll make it happen. Oh, you know, so the tears work. Yeah, he was good about it, but if I were him, I'd have been like, are you crying? There's no crying in locker room business. This is no crying in night creams.
Starting point is 00:50:22 So now we go over to Carrie, the new girl. New Carrie with a K. What do you think about new Carrie? I'm not sold yet. I did like Carrie Dober. Dober, yeah. I did like her. I thought she was on the wrong franchise. You know, in my brain, I like to swap them around.
Starting point is 00:50:41 It's fine. It's okay. So I thought she was good enough for a, or right for Miami if it was still alive, or Orange County, but as the Heather of Orange County, like that kind of role, but it would kill me. Listen, it would kill me if you fired me
Starting point is 00:51:00 and bring a bitch with my name back. That is terrible. I would raise hell for an name back. That is terrible. I would raise hell. We're gonna everything down. That's crazy. It would be great if Bravo acted as if it was the same person. Like they just like an old school, like at the two daren's on beloved,
Starting point is 00:51:15 like, who cares? And why don't we psych and dick it around up? Yeah. I make it still happen. So yeah, I'm not sold, but I don't mind her. I think she she has upside I think that's so far like she talks a little bit too much about her kids as if there's like a novelty in that you know I think what I don't like about her, but it also made Cameron really fun to me last week is that These women are clearly like sheltered women in Dallas and so carry with her accent saying fresh things to the masseuse
Starting point is 00:51:50 Or is that the right word? I know they don't like that word but her saying fresh things Missage their pants, Missage let's coach Yeah, exactly Oh, like that being edgy and fun to Cameron made me like Cameron more than it made me like Carrie Right, I think she is so amused by this. It's ridiculous I am just I mean I can't even I'm not even gonna go on another monologue about Cameron But why she just endlessly entertains me but yes, that's yet another thing so So Carrie is like oh, I still have I have not practiced my Carrie accents at all, so it'll probably just come off like wildly on the floor.
Starting point is 00:52:28 I feel like it's the Mauricio accent. Like Mauricio like this, I think it's sort of like this a little bit yes, huh? Oh yes, it is. Yeah, it's sort of like that, you know? You know, I have to be careful because I'm, I'm white man and I don't want to be, you know, problematic. Yeah, of course, of course. Of course, of course. I think if you do Mauricio up here.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Yeah, Mauricio, yeah Mauricio's up here, but Katy is down here. Okay, I'll do that a little bit. I'll see how it goes. Yeah, because she sort of speaks in this, like this sort of like rushed waist sort of like this a little bit, but get in here a little Russian. Yeah, you're giving her a little Eastern European tea.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Okay, I'll be Eastern European tea, but you get in here. But you know what though, she has, but you know, I'm okay with that. I'll get a little Russian, you know. It'll take some time, it'll take some time. It'll take some time and we're all gonna be here for the journey.
Starting point is 00:53:08 You know, that's the fun of Crapins is trying out new accents. So anyways, so she's like, okay, we're going to Mexico, we're going to Carias. But Eduardo, I forgot to tell you, on Tuesdays, I do Carpool, so he's new Carpool, and he's like, oh, Carpool, and I, oh, I hate that shit like oh, no carpool I know I have to drive more than one of my kids like yeah, okay, I'm like this is not how this is not an incident that has to be televised
Starting point is 00:53:36 No, it doesn't and it's very fifties what like I'm so uninterested and you guys were talking about this on the Married to medicine recap. I'm uninterested in Mr. Mom storylines I really am totally that's your fucking kid take care of her and her friend to school and that's it It's not that hard. Okay. It's really not that hard unless he doesn't know how to drive It's okay. You can swear as much as you want So anyway, then over at Cameron's house she's packing and Cameron's talking, she has this really cute daughter named Hilton. And she's with the chorus. Yeah, Hilton is adorable.
Starting point is 00:54:09 And Cameron's like, Mommy has to start packing because Mommy is going to Mexico and she's going to have so many tacos salads. Donde, Esther, tacos, saladito. And so, Cord is like so, so Hilton, what do you think mom's gonna, what do you think mom's gonna think about this luggage? Cause he rolls out some things. And she's like, this one mommy's gonna say, I need this, I need that, I can't just take one back,
Starting point is 00:54:38 I need three, I love Taco Salad, Spanish, Spanish, Spanish. I love a kid, Like, I'm annoyed. I don't like the Prokosius kids too much, but when a Prokosius kid spots their mom and calls her out accurately, I'll go with it. Like, the way a door and Gizelle's two other daughters call out. Yes. I'll do this.
Starting point is 00:55:00 I'll do that kid. Yeah. Like, mommy silly and her Spanish is like, yo, Kiero! Like, I love this. It's so strange how someone like the worst people on Bravo I'll do that kid that like mommy silly and her Spanish is a yo-kierra Like I love that it's so strange how someone like the worst people on bravo or not worse than term But in terms of like the people who have like exhibit really bad behavior or ignorant behavior always have the most amazing children Yeah, they'll always like the most spoiled ridiculous like you made pink dog food Cameron and your kids like your Spanish is dumb you take too much
Starting point is 00:55:25 I'm just worried that like my back is gonna get beat up on a commercial fly I know I'm also like why wouldn't her bags also get beaten up she has to have a private place Cameron acts like she is literally taking that like bus thing on romancing the stone like into the jungle there's like chickens and cages and stuff like she taking like a junk boat somewhere I mean she's just traveling by swap with like I don't know she's taking like one of those the fan boats yeah she's like in one of those crazy She's just traveling by swamp Yeah, she's like in one of those crazy planes like military planes. There's just like a big open cover Like against the wall, you know, like our bag is like it's gonna jump Every time it's a bumper like our bag slides from one end to the
Starting point is 00:56:20 She's nuts So then yeah, then we have we go over to Brandy's house, and her daughter, Brooklyn. I'm not gonna do this one with Brandy. I'm sorry. I'm not gonna do this with you, Brandy. You didn't realize you're supposed to discipline children for a decade and now we gotta watch you figure it out. I'm not doing this with you, Brandy.
Starting point is 00:56:41 I'm not. Oh my god, and her daughter, Brooklyn's looking through brandy's clothing cuz you know You know Brooklyn's gonna help her mom pick things out. She's like um ugly ugly ugly ugly fine ugly ugly Mother stripes are not in ugly ugly ugly ugly There's nothing charming to me about it like I'm not shitting on a kid. I'm just saying Brandon You got it. It's not like your kids being funny and ribbing you like Hilton was You got it. It's not like your kids being funny and ribbing you like Hilton was Hilton seems like a polite child this child Brooklyn is looks like she's gonna be a dickhead to people outside the home as well Yeah, that's my anger about it. It's not charming
Starting point is 00:57:15 But I will say one thing I do appreciate is that Brandi seems to be aware of that She's like, yeah, my kid is a dick. But why won't she correct it? I know that that is a problem. It is so like I know it's so stupid to like be like, you're not parenting well on brafo. But it really bothers me. Randy, it's called like get some rope or like just tire to a chair. Next time.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Tired to a chair for an afternoon and make her watch like Masterpiece Theater. Make her watch down Abby and just like, mother I will never do this. I just I'm just assuming that down Abby is the worst thing for a child. Oh, I can imagine just anything with old-timey clothes in a British accent. Just make your sit there like clockwork arch
Starting point is 00:57:53 with your eyes peeled open. Yeah, worst case scenario should be traumatized and we'll never act that way again. Best case scenario, she starts acting British. So, exactly. Like there's like upside up sides, okay? So then we go over to Stephanie with her sons and this is, her sons are cute. They seem like they're relatively well-behaved so far.
Starting point is 00:58:13 And she's like, guess where I'm going? It starts with a name and her son goes, Mawaii. How adorable. I know, I want to go to Mawaii. I'm going to play too. It sounds lovely. It sounds gonna go to Mauai too. It sounds lovely. It sounds like a beautiful place.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Yeah. So then, Jeremy and Deandre are having like really unpleasant, like, underwear talk. I think it's a common say from the fact that he's like clearly cheating on her with pretty Jessica who ever that is. You believe he's cheating? I just think it's fun to believe it. Okay. I don't, I'm not sure if I believe it. I definitely don't think rich was cheating. I don't think rich was either
Starting point is 00:58:48 I am not sure on Jeremy though. I don't think Jeremy. I mean I Don't think so so far But I just think it's really fun to think so and it's fun and And he they do they are like very over the top about how much they love each other They they they are But I don't know. If you love me, you don't give me 50 donuts at my birthday party. Like you should've done.
Starting point is 00:59:13 And the way he was squeezing her ass, he was not just squeezing it at that party. He was squeezing it up and then in. It was turning into an exam. And I'm just like, that was a little over the top. There's two words. And now we have this whole thing where it's like, oh, like a little over the top. There's two words. And now we have this whole thing where it's like, oh, there's my underwear. I was wondering where it is. Mind if I smell your underwear?
Starting point is 00:59:30 She's like, Jeremy, stop it. I was like, mm. I was so like, I don't know if he does this for you, but he looks like local John Stewart to me. John Stewart Al Gore. Yes. And so like, I'm very attracted to John Stewart. So like, I'm into it, but then it's just weird
Starting point is 00:59:46 because Jon Stewart's like miniature. So here's this big burly Jon Stewart guy talking about sniffing the interest up to where. A little awkward. Yeah, I mean, for right now realistically, I do think that he's faithful and everything's fine. She seems fine. She seems fine, but just for like,
Starting point is 01:00:04 just in terms of what I hope for the franchise. Yeah, he's definitely pretty just. Just for us. He's gonna show him a theory union. You know, pretty just, I feel like I'm actually a little concerned about the fact that pretty Jessica has not come up again, but that's okay
Starting point is 01:00:17 because I'm Potomac we learned when Michael with the grabbing thing with Michael, that happened, and then it went away for four episodes. Right. And I was like, are we not gonna go back to that? And then they were of like went away for like four episodes. Right. And I was like, are we not going to go back to that? And then I came, then they were like, oh no, it was like in hiding, it was like a chess birster from alien. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:32 It was like a happen. Like the, like the Michael Derby thing, like it got onto our faces. And then it, it was like, and then we're like, and then like it was like, oh, then everything was fine. And then like four episodes later, it burst out of our stomachs and we die. That's an audience in the best way. It's amazing. It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:00:48 So maybe yeah, you know, we're foreshadowing. We're foreshadowing for a good conversation. We got her done on tour phase. Pretty just because God knows her. She's into our stomach. And she's gonna burst out maybe episode 12. That would be great. That would be incredible.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Yeah. So we go back to Cameron and she's still packing and stuff. She goes, and she tells Hilton Mommy doesn't know any Spanish Hilton how do I ask for mint ice cream which is such a specific request? What Spanish teacher is teaching an a-roll mint ice cream and since when does Cameron Westcott want mint ice cream? Do we think she's actually gonna be ordering mint ice cream in Mexico? Do we think she's actually gonna be ordering Mindae's scream in Mexico? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I think there might be. They might be. They might be. They might be. I think that min- I think min- I think min- I scream
Starting point is 01:01:45 cross his borders. I think it's- I think it goes far and beyond America. I think it goes far and beyond America. I think it goes far and beyond America. I think it goes far and beyond America. I think it goes far and beyond America. I think it goes far and beyond America. I think it goes far and beyond America.
Starting point is 01:01:56 I think it goes far and beyond America. I think it goes far and beyond America. I think it goes far and beyond America. I think it goes far and beyond America. I think it goes far and beyond America. I think it goes far and beyond America. I think it goes far and beyond America. I think it goes far and beyond America.
Starting point is 01:02:04 I think it goes far and beyond America. I think it goes far and beyond America. I think it goes far and beyond America. I think it goes far and beyond America. I think it goes far and beyond America. I think it goes far and beyond America. Okay, so por favor, Yo Kiero, Minto Alado. And it was like, bitch. Oh. Minto, no mommy, sound ridiculous, you fucking dummy. You just said, I am Minto, I scream or something like that. I want to- Yeah, she said, I want to be Minto, I scream or something. Like, Yo Kiero.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Well, that's true, too I just I love Cameron's commitment to having the most White accent She like when I when I was in like six grade or whatever and my friends and I would pretend we spoke Spanish We would really just put an O on the end of everything and Cameron even when she's speaking actual Spanish, sounds like a white person just putting, oh. Yeah, everything. It's like, I always say this, did you watch Amazing Race?
Starting point is 01:02:50 Not in the day. Well, there was this one team on Amazing Race who's Charna and Merna, and did not matter what country they were in, they could have been in Poland, and they get onto Taxi Cab and the first thing they would say is rapido, rapido, rapido. They were like in Singapore, rapido they would say is rapido rapido rapido
Starting point is 01:03:08 They're like in Singapore rapido rapido rapido Little whistles that's like I'm in camera on the amazing race would be amazing like hi Could you take me you would lose because it would take her to like the whole season to say to send it to and she would not do any. She would never be like, no, I'm not doing that. I'm sorry. I can't do that right now. No, that toilet is dirty. Oh, that wasn't motherfucking dirty toilet. So anyway, so then we go over to Leanne and Rich, who are now.
Starting point is 01:03:36 She's packing and stuff and Leanne's been like, well, I'm really looking for a lot of lows and a lot of highs with Deandra mostly lows on account of her being a bitch But I'm looking forward to getting those highs again. Did you so Leanne says at the top of the episode that she's 51 Yeah, she has never looked 51 to me. It's perfectly wonderful to look 51 But Leanne does not look her age, but those big ass glasses that she was wearing when Rich walks into the room I was like, oh, she's 51. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:07 She sometimes will do something. She's like 51. 51, you know. But I love that. I love how that she's like very open. And you know, I feel like I always have to preface it. Like, Ryan and I, obviously, we know Liam, we have a relationship with her.
Starting point is 01:04:20 If she were doing something wrong or shady, like we would call her out on it, et cetera. You know, I say these things with, well, I'm sure there's some bias, how could they're not be? And I'm trans-credits bias, but we're not the New York Times, okay? We're just people that watch Broadway, I like it. Okay, so anyway, so Rich is talking about like,
Starting point is 01:04:43 well, you know, you basically, part of life is that sometimes you have to apologize, even if you don't want to, because just is talking about like well, you know you basically part of life is that you know sometimes You have to apologize even if you don't want to because just move on and like hey with all this stuff like No one's apologized to me, and I'm at the bottom of that scrum, okay? Which is my way of saying cuz I'm gonna apologize to me. She's such a dad. Yeah, such a he's hot too Rich is hot. He is hot and he's cute. He's so cute. He's so cute. And he does digly in.
Starting point is 01:05:07 He digs her crazy ass. I think he does, he does. He really likes that woman. Yeah, so yeah. And basically he's like, listen, if I'm not mad about it, you can't be mad about that. Right, exactly. So.
Starting point is 01:05:18 And I like, that's the, I mean, that's the best response ever. Well, it interferes with our ability to get a good, kind of beating a dead horse of a storyline, but he's like, all right, get over it. No, but they have to, you know, I have my feud theory, which is you have a season of falling into the feud, and then a season of being in the feud, and then it's gotta be over.
Starting point is 01:05:38 So last season was Leanne and Deandra falling apart. Yes. The season is of them, like a few maybe trying to man navigate it Can't happen again next season because the audience gets bored but Rich is already trying to get us to stop it now You can't try and talk calm her down before she goes to stay in the same house with her for a few days Tell her to calm down wish to come back You know and the thing is this he was doing the right thing on episode one texting Jeremy Yeah, he got all messy. I think what happened to the outreach
Starting point is 01:06:08 But you know Lee and sent that text you know you you are so I don't think about that. She's so dead He's probably like I don't care. Yeah, he's like here's my father care. The ender's being a dick head I'm sorry. I caught people dick as all the time But yeah, rich definitely And you know what that's what a good guy what a husband what a husband he's like to it you do it because like the Even the way the text like was word and the same way that quad has the like persecution Complex and the flowery Leanne in the text and in real life has the same thing.
Starting point is 01:06:46 It was just like very dramatic. Pretty Jessica, you love her more than your wife. Don't like rich did not say that text. Yeah, you know what, you're right. You're right. He may have done a polish on it. Yeah. Like add like a bro or something.
Starting point is 01:07:01 But the whole like pretty Jessica is pretty, is more woman than, I don't remember where that word, there's like more woman than D. Andra will ever be, come on, that's a Leanne speech. Yeah, you're right, you're right. And that's why I love Leanne, because she knows the right time to bring the melodrama. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:21 You know, she knows when to do it. She's not like college. I can't help myself I can't and I was a college rich fan for like years and years when Ronnie's hated her for so long I've hated her for a lot too and I've been like yeah But there's something about it that I still like but this season I turned on her and it's like took you long enough She wouldn't defend her own fucking sister I which should be a virtue by the way that's the sort of melodrama that we love on Like not a virtue in life but a virtue, by the way, that's the sort of melodrama that we love on these shows. Oh, right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Like not a virtue in life, but a virtue on Bravo. But she doesn't know how to bring the melodrama with it. No, she didn't. She sort of like, She passes the gress of Lee as her. Yeah, exactly. Is it Simper or Wimper or both? Simper, Wimper, she does Wimper.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Anything with an imper in it, she does. She's a Pimper. Yeah, she's a Pimper, she's a Simper, she's a Midnight Wimper. Little, uh, anyway. So now at 6am, Ret the Airport Cameron, of course, rolls in with three bags and Leanne's like, it's just a weekend. She woke up crabby. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Leanne woke up crabby. She woke up crabby. But I think I almost feel like she wanted to. I think she's like, well, Rich, we got to stay up about four more hours. So I want to wake up crabby tomorrow. And I'm going to sleep in this chair, someone, we gotta stay up about four more hours. I want to wake up Krabby tomorrow. And I'm gonna sleep in this chair, someone. That hurts. Yeah, I want to be real Krabby for the show tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:08:31 You know what she was probably thinking that, you know? Yeah, definitely. So Cameron's like, I know it's three bags, but just know if it's a disaster, we are covered. I'm like, what emergency preparations? What does Cameron have in there? what disaster requires your pink dress? Yeah, how many page meaners are gonna save us if there's like an earthquake? Yeah, oh my god, I'm falling under rubble, but let me grab Cameron's pink tutu. Like the fuck?
Starting point is 01:09:01 And Stephanie's like, I've always been afraid of going to certain parts in Mexico because I've heard that they'll put your head on stick. I was like, I feel like that should be super effective. It's so racist. But it comes from my favorite person. She's like giggly. Like, she's like, even I know that sounds racist, but it's just what I've been told, and I can't help it.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Yes, ultimately you gotta remember, no shade to y'all, but Stephanie's from Oklahoma. Yeah. And that's that. That's just what is gonna be sometimes. Stephanie's from Oklahoma. Hey, Oklahoma, where the... I wish I knew those lyrics.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I've never seen Oklahoma don't judge me. I'm not a musical's person like you guys. No, it's fine. It's fine, because it makes me sad because there's so much to teach you. Oh, yay! Okay. Just as hell, there's stuff to teach, Stephanie about Mexico.
Starting point is 01:09:46 So Cameron's like, I brought from Mexico to Grande bags, huge, Grande, dose, Grande. And you just know what I've heard around those like. I think you're lucky just not to talk about order. Like, what are you doing? Yeah, she just says saying Spanish words. It's just put it just and like and it's so kind of setting too because you know that thing where if you speak a different language when you're communicating with you use your hands a lot of annoying thing she's doing it while she's speaking the language wrong
Starting point is 01:10:18 Yeah, like dose grande Tacas baritas porant, a lot of. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Terrible. So now they're in Porto Vierda, and like it's sometimes, you know, Ron and I always talk about this. Like I write down notes for things like, why'd I write this down?
Starting point is 01:10:37 Cameron dropped her bag at baggage claim. It's like, why'd I write that? But at the same time, I guess I kind of understand why, because watching Cameron deal with the shock and unexpected nature of a bag falling over is just sort of perfect like My grande bag fell over I was not expecting that. She also gives us an extended explanation for why it's okay that she did it Which is what made you know it? I'm sure., is it because she said, for my high school yearbook,
Starting point is 01:11:07 I was voted most likely to get lost on an airport on my radar college, which is such a specific, super-relative. So specific and exactly correct about her? Actually, it's exactly correct about her, but actually when they showed her your book, it only said she was most likely to get lost on the way to college
Starting point is 01:11:24 and she added in the airport. It's the biggest fear in airports. It's just like, interminals. I still have made it to college. She didn't go. I just go from airport to airport like Tom Hanks in that movie. I think she actually did go to college. And we shouldn't finish. She met Courtney's college. Like Tom hangs in that movie. I think she actually did go to college and drop wish and finish She met court and college right? Yeah, but I just love that just like walking around from I have walked around in circles After circles and I keep coming to that subarrow Which I think is Mexican for bar
Starting point is 01:12:00 And I don't know what to do. What is Hudson news? It's everywhere. Does this mean I'm in New York? If I'm at the Hudson News now, have I made it to New York? I don't understand. She doesn't even notice that airport has to have expensive stuff because she's so used to spending stupid money on shit. She's like, yeah, 50-dollar bottle of water makes sense. It makes sense. Every time I go to Dallas Fort Worth Airport, I keep going to Urban Taco,
Starting point is 01:12:29 and I'm like, could I have a taco salad please? And they're like, do you want Urban Taco salad? And I'm like, very confused. And then I don't know where I am anymore, and I can't get on the plane. If she got lost at that airport, wouldn't confuse me. I wouldn't blame her.
Starting point is 01:12:44 I had a layover in the Dallas airport and I went outside to smoke weed because that's what I do. They closed their terminals from like 10 p.m. to 3 a.m. you can't go past TSA to get into the actual airport. Oh. Yeah, so I had to like, like a hobo just kind of hang out in that place where like if somebody comes with you to the airport
Starting point is 01:13:08 You sit there and the ticket yeah, the ticket here. So I had to like sit there Benches for the family in the ticketing area from like 10 p.m. to like 4 a.m. That is a nightmare. So She's not at fault here. Did you make it to college though? I did make it to college. Okay, good. Well, the camera, by the way, also mentions, but guess what?
Starting point is 01:13:31 Guess what? I was also voted to be most likely to be on the cover of Cosmo. I'm like, well, that hasn't totally happened. So I don't know why you're bragging about an unachieved goal. Yeah, exactly. So now they have to take like a two-hour windy drive from the airport to this house. And like, you know, Carrie is very much like, I'm just going to warn you now.
Starting point is 01:13:56 This is like the worst part. So everyone just like relax because he's going to be so terrible. It's going to be awful. Like when you think it's like over, it's like just beginning. It's going to be so, so bad. I'm like, Carrie stop. Like try gonna be awful. Like when you think it's like over it's like just beginning it's gonna be so so bad. I'm like, Carrie stop. Like try to sell it. She's like, it's a doomsday preacher. I know. Carrie, you gotta like get some buy-in for your trip. You're the new girl. You gotta talk about how amazing it is. Or give out like candy or something. Something. So she has this whole thing.
Starting point is 01:14:22 She's like, so for the rooms, we are all going to share rooms. We get to know each other So I'm gonna put all the names in a hat and so we're gonna pick out the names and then like whoever name you pick out That's what you're gonna be with and you know liens like um, but there are seven bedrooms How rude yeah, I'm first of all I don't even want to see this process because I don't want a room selection process without a Ramona Yes, I don't want it. Yeah, that's true. I don't need it. Yes. Don't need it. Sorry You need a Ramona, Nassonia to freak out. Yes. I don't want anything else Also, I don't know if Carrie really needed to do this because the only one who needs to get to be known as her because she's new
Starting point is 01:15:04 They all know each other. Oh, good for the new character. So like let them have their own rooms, you know? So basically, so Leanne and Carrie wind up as roommates and then Deandre and Brandy, and they're all like really scared to be paired with Deandre because she's just like... This is the second such montage, the one that they talk about how dirty she is. Is this the second one already? It's not dirty, but the second such montage,
Starting point is 01:15:30 this season where I'm like, oh, production really hates Deandra. That's true, because they're putting all that business out there. Yes, and they flash back to the dirty room. And it's not just like, oh, look how dirty her room is. It's like, we're gonna do a confessional pile on and everyone's gonna talk about how.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Everybody's gonna do it, so two episodes in a row, she eats too much and she's dirty. That's terrible. You're right, you're right. And then they, and not only when they showed the dirty room that Deandra left, they left, they showed that there was food out. I was like, damn, this is real fuck with her at all. I feel like we, we have not truly appreciated how hilarious it was that footage of her last week just eating, thinking about it out of every single thing.
Starting point is 01:16:11 But potentially looking for a ring or just eating every donut. Just like Mark and her donut. They're gonna be a president here somewhere. My husband is not humiliating me. That can be this at all. I mean, even, even Stan on the Golden Girls put a ring in a big potato Badority did do that you did do that and cuz Dorothy picks that she goes she's like oh my god
Starting point is 01:16:32 There's a ring in your ass place like drops it into the water that's hilarious so so they're driving and There now lian starts to complain she's like are we there yet cuz this shit sucks sucks and I was like All right, this is a bad sign Leanne is cranky. She's officially cranky. So I'm like the only person in the fandom At all who does not enjoy leanne, okay, and I was like, I was like yes Hopefully people will see what I see cuz I was like, oh come on, this isn't even funny. This is unpleasant. Calm down.
Starting point is 01:17:08 She's just being like a whining asshole. And I'm good with you complaining when you get there. I love a complaint about a household, about a food. I love that. Do it in the house. If you complain on the bus before we get there, you gotta go. I can't deal with it. I would, if I were on that bus, I would be annoyed, especially if our host said it's gonna be a two hour drive and it's gonna be annoying, and you're only 30 minutes in, and you're complaining,
Starting point is 01:17:33 I would be annoyed. Yeah, of course. But I was happy because I knew that it meant that she was gonna be that much worse. They got into the house, you know? She's getting warmed up. Yeah. It was like, did you watch season one of Dallas?
Starting point is 01:17:46 You did, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, season one, it was like some season one, Leon. Yeah, it's exactly. Before she realized, she didn't really realize what she was doing season one. She was sort of like off the rails, you know, which was sort of amazing in its own way, even though she was so terrible at that first season.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Yeah, and her friend, whose name I can't remember, actually. Tiffany. There we go, Tiffany. Yeah, yeah. This is how she would be the Tiffany. Yeah, yeah, okay. So they, so then Carrie's like, okay, we're gonna stop here because we can all go the bathroom and Cameron sounds,
Starting point is 01:18:16 they all pile out. There are some little like, gas machine. And it was like very rural, very, you know, like, you know, it's like down the trot. Love know, like, you know, it's like down the road. Love watching it. You know, it's just like a poor region.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Yeah. And so it's just like, it's crappy. And so Cameron's like, I can go potty here. It's already, I'm like, whoo, yes. Cameron's gonna go pee. Like a shitty, shitty gas station. Thank you for whoever arranged this. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Like, like Cameron is so pale. Like, she was wider than that toilet. Thank you for whoever arranged this. That's hilarious. Cameron is so pale. She was wider than that toilet, because that toilet was so dirty. Because it was a bad toilet. Like this was not just Cameron being, there was not even a seat on it. And it had weird brown, like water, body scenes. I was like, did people shit on the floor? Yeah, what's what's has been used for? In Cameron's face, she's just looking at it. You know,
Starting point is 01:19:09 when she's like really disappointed, her mouth just gets so thin. It looks like it looks like a flattened staple, you know. She's she definitely is a lip person. Yeah, she's like hmm. And then in the interview, she does that thing where she leans over on her side. Ron and I were talking about it last week That when she gets mad she does this thing. Oh, you're so like diagonally and sit your head out. Yes, she sticks her head out and she goes This is not a toilet. This is a hole in the floor with flies Which she actually was not so harsh. She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh.
Starting point is 01:19:49 She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh.
Starting point is 01:19:57 She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh. She was not so harsh. Cameron swan like Stan. Yeah, it is. It's like her neck comes down. Yes.
Starting point is 01:20:05 It's like, you know that's in Jurassic Park when they're like, you'd like buy a waterfall and then like a Brontosaurus's head just like pops up right close to them and they're like, ah, that's like Cameron's head like coming into camera. That's right. This is not a tropical island. It's the finger pointing.
Starting point is 01:20:23 This is a waterfall with children. That's her if she were a prontosaurus. That's incredible. I love it. Thank you. I'll just do that the rest of the day. Yeah, it's pretty, I will, my face is gonna hurt from my foot if you can do this.
Starting point is 01:20:37 I like, Stephanie's description of the bathroom was. Huh? It looked like remnants had been in there peeking and pooping for years. You just walked. Like, do grandma and pee and poop? It looked like Remlins had been in their peak in pooping for years Like, do Remlins pee poop? Do I do a specific way for a year? Like, this is shitting on it? I just like, Stephanie's perception of Mexico is just like, head on sticks, Remlins like,
Starting point is 01:20:59 I feel like if a Grimmin's gonna pee or poop, they're just not gonna use a toilet. They're not, they're probably not. It's a, it's a why is she obsessed? Like why does she think Mexico is just full of monsters? Like just little creatures from AROMOSTERS just walk around, they put heads on sticks, they shitting poop of bathrooms for hours. She clearly does, and on top of that, like she and Cameron have not discussed at all. There are perceptions of Mexico because she thinks there's like this, like cannibalistic
Starting point is 01:21:28 culture. And Cameron's like, how am I going to order my mint ice cream? Like the two of them have not shared notes. You know? She's like, yeah, Cameron's like, no, you can order ice cream from the monsters, the Gremlins' servant to you. They won't put your head on a stick if you ask can order ice cream from the monsters, the grandma and serve it to you. They won't put your head on a stick if you ask from an ice cream. That's the biggest honor from Mexicans.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Honorito, Grande. I'm kidding. She's perfect. Okay, your impression is making me buy. I like him, but you're selling me on this girl. Just because it's so white, it's so white, it's almost like you have to just like give yourself over to it. It's kind of like how like with Caroline Fleming
Starting point is 01:22:08 on ladies of London, she is just so privileged. And so chalberous, blueberries. She lives such like a rich privileged life where you just have to just like love it. You just lean in, you go. You lean in and see what like how glorious it really is. Yeah, you just, we get to the point where she's not spoiled, she's absurd. And I'm good with that, I'm good really is. Yeah, we get to the point where she's not spoiled,
Starting point is 01:22:25 she's absurd, and I'm good with that. I'm good with that. Yeah, exactly. Because we're all laughing and fun together. Yeah, we just, you gotta sometimes appreciate these creatures when they come to you. Exactly. So I like them, they all get back in the bus.
Starting point is 01:22:37 And I don't know who set it, but someone's like, who's ready for hand sanitizer. That's so funny. So they get to this house. This gorgeous gorgeous huge estate that's like on a hillside and multi-heared stairs It's just like and the colors the colors It was so beautiful. I just remember it does very very beautiful like like Azure blue Yes, it was so nice. I love blue houses in sunshine.
Starting point is 01:23:07 It was like an unexpected car color. Yeah. You know when you run a highway and you see like a... Oh, wow! I never saw a Passat in that color. Oh my god, yeah, like a PT cruise or color. Yeah. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Oh, you know what? I forgot to apologize to the audience because we're recording in my like dining room table here Well, I don't really have a dining room, but just a table and Anytime I go like this. Oh, no, no, I've been the one doing a lot. Anytime this everyone's probably gonna go Oh, okay, that is so I apologize, but just pretend that's like a thought trickling down the camera and said oh New idea There's nothing in her red So it bounces against the walls and because of fun.
Starting point is 01:23:49 My thought was elected most likely to get lost in my head on the way to its mouth. So, I loved everything about that. It actually is one of the prettiest houses that I've seen I don't know something about it looking aged but still being like very beautiful because you know the house that they went to in Miami in New York New York house wise was so Was so rich it was like so I kind of loved it. I love I love I'm I'm really I love like a Big square box house. I do I can't help it It just looked like a rich person bought it like cold and anti-sensitivity. Yeah, but this looked lived in Yeah, it looks like it had been around for a hundred years. Yeah
Starting point is 01:24:37 Yeah, although I have to say I think was her house or maybe it's just where they had a party I think that Kyla Mauricio. I'm not gonna lie, they were house in Mexico. They were house in Mexico. And they're house in New House and Palm Springs. I mean, gorgeous. Gorgeous. Gorgeous. Listen, I'm gonna give credit where credits do, okay?
Starting point is 01:24:53 I mean, I still like Mauricio. I never did it. So we could credit them on a good house. And I'm gonna yell cow, that much. Yeah, we can give them house credits. So they get to the house and Cameron loves it. She's like, this house is fabulous. It's like something out of a James Bond or retinue.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Really? I feel like I really have to get into a metallic bathing suit right now. I'm like, I don't know. What do you know any Bond women in metallic bathing suits? I don't think it was about Bond women. I think it's just like a natural instinct. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Like some things are like, I need to get into a pink bathing suit and some things are, it's a metallic bathing suit moment. Thank God, I brought both kinds. Is Cameron's metallic bathing suit pink? Probably. Probably.
Starting point is 01:25:41 It probably is like that. That let me kind of think. What's that who is wearing the pink sparkles these days and their interviews? Is it Jazem I Don't know but whatever whoever is doing it. That's what it is. I think like a pink No, no don't feel metallic cam. Ray is giving me such a look right now. I don't want it I don't want it can don't give us it. Cam, don't give us metallic.
Starting point is 01:26:05 Don't feel like a bond girl. Well, no, no. Give it to us and then we can pass judgment. OK, right. Of course, of course. I got to think like a podcast or about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now they're all standing around.
Starting point is 01:26:18 They've got margaritas. And it's like cheers to DeAndra because it is her birthday. It's like her birthday. Oh, how is she stassy in this shit? How long is her birthday? How long is this woman's birthday? I think she's trying to act like she's not doing the stassy thing. But she's not doing the stassy thing.
Starting point is 01:26:34 But she's not doing the stassy thing. Because you know, you know, she told people enough times, well, I just really wish I could do my birthday. But unfortunately, we're gonna have to have it at Chuck E. Cheese. Because I don't have any money left, even though I was like really mad about people saying that last year, but this year I'm gonna use it. I'm gonna use it. Cheese. Because I don't have any money left, even though I was like really mad about people saying that last year, but this year I'm gonna use it.
Starting point is 01:26:46 I'm gonna use it, yeah. So I don't have any money yet. So I had to buy myself my own car from CVS, you know, as a Leanne's wedding dress in there, it was weird, but then turned out it was just a receipt. It was a receipt. So, um, so yeah, so they're like cheers to Deandra, I was like yay, and Leanne's like yeah, but a helicopter would have been better getting here. Oh, boy, I'm not particularly fond of Leon, but that was when I was like you are a fucking asshole. Like seriously, give- I was like the same thing but I had a smile on my face.
Starting point is 01:27:17 I love that. But you know why? I have a theory of why she was so crabby. She had too much hair. She had too many extensions in. And it's happy in her neck. That hair was big. She had a shop from behind and it was like a big thing.
Starting point is 01:27:30 I was like, she has too much hair from Mexico right now. Yeah, her head hurts. She was hot. Exactly. And I was like, she was, and she was mad and she knew it and she was mad at herself. For setting her up, herself up for that. And so now she's, and she's also in like a jumpsuit.
Starting point is 01:27:43 So she's just like hot and she's like, like a jumpsuit so she's just like hot. And she's like, taking it out on everybody. Yeah, I think that's what happened. All right, I mean, have you ever arrived to a hot human space and you're like, you're, you're overdressed a little bit?
Starting point is 01:27:54 I get totally mad. And you're like, fuck this shit. And I'm mad at everyone. And she can't take off layers on a jumpsuit and it would be hilarious, but tackies how she put that one of her tracks. Shut up, I feel like that's not above her. Take a clip put that one of her tracks. Shut up.
Starting point is 01:28:05 I feel like that's not above her. Take a clip and out. She's not above that. No, she's not actually surprised. I think Season 1 Leanne takes her weave out. Season 1 Leanne had the biggest hair, by the way. Yes she did. That hair was big, and she had that crazy, like,
Starting point is 01:28:19 tensely Mortimer at the circus makeup. Oh my god, I remember that. Those pink circles. Oh my god, she definitely looked like raggedy in with circles. That's crazy. So anyway, so so Leanne does not want to, I think with that now we start doing the the house tour maybe and Leanne does not want to, they're walking around and she does not want to share a room with anyone, especially not Carrie who she has like sort of like a weird thing with right now. So she's mad because there's like seven rooms and like why should she have to share a room etc.
Starting point is 01:28:52 Ah, no. I mean, I agree. I mean, like if they, if the host says you can't be in this room, you just can't be in it. I agree. I agree. But so Leanne's being crabby and then she's like, she starts doing some camera and shit. She's like, Quanto's Cabanias Siete Sace Ocho
Starting point is 01:29:08 I'm like Oh, yeah, this is not this This ain't it This is not gonna work out well for you. You can't start you can't start because it's felt like Spanish mockery a little bit Not like Spanish ignorance and at least Cameron is coming like she's happy. She's joyful She's this it's her weird way of celebrating Spanish. Yeah, Leanne was not celebrating She was mocking her Mexican friend. Yeah, it's it's hard to go in that space a little bit So I was like oh Leanne, but the same time I was like but the same time I was like but this but
Starting point is 01:29:34 But like I can't I can't be really that mad because we're talking about Kenya because at the same time She's also sort of gonna be forcing a fight, you know, like right right. So I'm like, I couldn't tell, like, it's shoot. I feel like she's- I feel like offended. No, I wasn't attacking. No, I wasn't attacking, you know? Apart from me, it was like, oh god, she's being an asshole, so I was like, oh god.
Starting point is 01:29:52 This is gonna be good. It's gonna be good, you know? I mean, and it does get good, so. Yeah, so then, so Kara's, so Kara's like, well, Leanne, we have, you can have this room if you want. So at that point, Leanne should've been like, sweet, and be done, but she's like, no, because then they go into another room where there's two rooms and Lan's like, oh, it's not. Cam, you want to stay in this room with me? I was like, oh, that is some
Starting point is 01:30:12 fuckery right there. She is fucking with Terry. But also, what was it? She was like, I'm 51. I shouldn't have to share that. I was like, you are getting married. You are about to commit to sharing a bet for the rest of your life. You do it. You can do it. Like, I mean, there's part of me that actually understands that like sometimes I'm like, like, no, you're too old to be active. And obviously a coworker is not your marital bed,
Starting point is 01:30:35 but like, get a group girl. Yeah, girl, like, just sleep with her. Like, relax. Just pretend this is one of the games. So then there's like this moment, this weird moment of friction which I felt like was setting up for something and based on the trailers for next week Okay, where Where so lians like well cam you and I can stay here, which is kind of like a which then Leanne was originally saying I'm not gonna stay with you carry because I don't share a bed
Starting point is 01:31:02 Yeah, you know, and I don't want but then then carry gives her a room, and then she offers to be in a room with Cam, which is really now- It's a really mean girl, yeah, it's very like bullying the new kid. Yeah, so Carrie is, so then Cam is like, well, I'll do that, because Cam is supposed to be with Brandy or Steph, but one of them, and she's like, I'll do that, which makes sense because YouTube probably want to be together anyway, meaning Steph and Brandy. Brandy and then Brandy suddenly is like I just feel like it's weird because it's like like this is supposed to be a drama between Vian and Carrie and now it's getting put on to us as if we want this and like that's not cool it's like
Starting point is 01:31:37 you know what I was like I didn't get that at all but thank you for turning into a drama because I didn't see any drama there. I didn't see a drama coming, okay. But I appreciate that. Well, Brandy needs to do something because her obnoxious kid isn't here. Yeah. So it's like, oh, let me be my obnoxious kid then. Yeah, and she's like, I'm not really fighting with Leigh Ann right now.
Starting point is 01:31:55 I'm not fighting with Stefan. I'm really not fighting with anyone. Anybody? Pick a fight. I'll get mad at this. Fight a fight. Please, fight a fight. I'll get mad at Cameron suggesting that Stephanie I'm a lot of what I hang out with.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Yes, I'll be mad at my friend for noticing that me and my best friend like to hang out. Like what? So Carrie's like getting mad. She's like, she's like, you know, I think it's really rude and you know, I did a lot of work on those names. I'm like, bitch, you wrote down six names, but I'm gonna have. You do not like put them into special like place cards. She's laughing at it. You did not download a font. You did not get any clip art. Put them on card stock. Yeah, relax, relax. Okay. But I mean she's
Starting point is 01:32:34 right. Leigh-Anne was for sure being rude. And then they're walking around and like from all these you know there's tons of stairs and lands complaining about the stairs and everything. Like it's like stairmaster on crack you know which again leads to like if she didn't have as much hair she'd be happy. She'd be yes okay I can buy that. Cause I love it I love in a state that has all sorts of like stairs in different directions like MCF. Yeah I love that.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Is that is that who that painter is? I was about to say Picasso. Yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly I like that and then you add the blue. I love that. It's so nice. Yeah I love that you go to to different landing like I don't like a one big long No, I don't but if like oh Those ugly ones in all the OC mansions where it's like open the door and it's like that double grand No one needs those I hate those so much. Why do we have those because Teresa Judas wouldn't breathe?
Starting point is 01:33:25 Hi my thoughts that breathe with no stairs Very good very quick thank you. Oh, let's not be waiting up and waiting seven half years on this podcast They bring out a good Jordan Sparks reference Finally happened. I also love that song Chris Brown that was left makes a good hit even if he's a horrible brother. That was a bad chance of words. But he is Chris Brown music I was about to say music slaps Chris Brown can do a good song. It's what I'm trying to say. Get really knock it out of the park. No, not a good not a good. I'm in there.
Starting point is 01:34:01 You know Chris Brown can put his foot in a song. You know. He really can, he really gets his hands on something. No, no, no. All right, we're not gonna go down to this. Yes. Okay. Sorry, if you get letters, I'm a girl. I don't know that it doesn't make it better. But sorry. I'll take over here. So then there's like this montage of Leon walking around the stairs, which is, where is it? There is a stair montage. And then, and now we get a first for Bravo, it's a precarious rope bridge fight. First time ever, like breaking new ground. That is incredible. So they're all sitting there.
Starting point is 01:34:41 And you know, it carries like, I look over there, there's like, there's a bridge over there. Yeah, you can see it, there's a bridge. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, it's like a really hard. It's yeah We're gonna walk that we're gonna walk across that and get lean goes no, we're not No, no, thank you. You know, she's like though. She's like the girl like she just turned 14 so she hates her family But she has to go on vacation with that ugly ugly ugly ugly. She drops her out rope bridges are out Exactly. She's like do we have to fucking go to Disneyland again mom She's like I am not and so it carries like everything is so difficult and then the end goes well when it comes to death and dying I'm not in
Starting point is 01:35:22 Very excellent point. I'm with it. Yeah, I'm not your shaky rope bridge So then then someone goes what's on the other side of Atlanta goes, it's bullshit, it's just a fucking shrub over there. I was like, you were being such an obnoxious guest. You were being an asshole. You're also being the truth right now. Such a cut fitness. Oh, but I was cracking up.
Starting point is 01:36:00 It's a shrub, it's a fucking shrub over there. I know Carrie was like, I'll tell you what's over, no, it's a shrub. It's a shrub. It's a shrub, it's a fucking shrub over there. I know Carrie was like, I'll tell you what's over it's yeah No, it's a shrub, it's a shrub, it's a shrub So she goes, Leanne, you were always so negative about everything in your life and Leanne goes, well Oh, so Leanne's like, oh, and then she says, I think she was telling us, she's like, I'm at some bitches house Who just aggressively came at me, you're the host and that is classic lian right there Yes, the victimizer round and it's like I don't feel safe in this house I have PTSD from being a corny kid and she's always she's so good at announcing your aggression to her without
Starting point is 01:36:38 Which is why she is such a good house? Yeah, she's the star of the show. I'll give you that. I just don't enjoy it. Not yet. I'll come around me. You'll come around. You've come around to Cameron. You'll come around to Leanne. But I actually don't, I don't, I don't, I don't regret.
Starting point is 01:36:52 I can understand why you wouldn't like her because I can understand how it irritates you. But to me, I think maybe it's like this. I wonder sometimes if some of these things just like really speak to my gay soul, you know? So I think I hate. I didn't, so generally speaking, this is me, generally I hate the, it's her man gay storylines and I can't believe that we're still doing those, you know, on that show so it already vexes me there, it's homophobic.
Starting point is 01:37:21 And so like yeah, I think it's insane to be on national TV Suggesting that a person who isn't gay It's pretty bad And then the next season or whatever the season after like I know we got to bring the drama and bring the fight So are you not breaking a glass with me while we at the fucking table? We now we're gonna have a real fist fight like the way Mariah almost got rocked for breaking the glass is how Lee Ann, you do not- I love a glass. I love a broken glass on a real house web show.
Starting point is 01:37:51 Give me Teresa Jiu-Dai's story in glass of the wall any day, like, break that glass. A glass of the wall is different than, you're sitting right there, that's crazy. I'm not amused by that. I would not be amused if I were in that situation. I am rewinding it five times and I'm watching amused by that. I would not be amused if I were in that situation. I am rewinding it five times, and I'm walking it on TV. But I will say, well, here, it's so funny about the homophobic.
Starting point is 01:38:10 I don't like, of course, I don't like a homophobic storyline. But I do like a storyline that's like, someone's like, I have some crazy tea. I know some people who Blue Carrey's husband at the roundup. I mean, when you frame it that way, yeah. But I have some crazy to you was like Fuck you carry your husband gets it's like it was very aggressive Well, but me well it's what's always interesting Because in those situations sometimes I feel like the women are pointing out like you know you are
Starting point is 01:38:42 You're trying to be one thing But we all know like that there's like a, like you're a beard. And I'm not saying Carrie Marker that. I'm just saying like theoretically like, stop trying to act like you're one thing when we all know that it's one time. One and a one time. And move on. Okay, that's fair. Like, okay, she thinks that her marriage is perfect, but I heard one time. We don't have to do it throughout the scene. I mean, we do.
Starting point is 01:39:04 Well, actually, good TV act. I don't like that. Yeah, I mean that's probably more of a Potomac issue because I mean I think truthfully the Dallas I mean I could be wrong I don't think Liam brought up more than that time when she was high on drugs. She brought it up a lot I mean she probably did it the reunion the shore But like I don't know I think you have a totally fair point. It just didn't bother me because I just thought it was But like I don't know I think you have a totally fair point. It just didn't bother me because I just thought it was Not to say I'm craving I'm craving. I think that we are like Look at me talking like there's this quality of prestige terror television But it's like as bizarre as it sounds to say about anything housewives. It's beneath them
Starting point is 01:39:41 That's fair. Yeah, but It's beneath them. That's fair. Yeah, that's fair. But um, Leon could try carry for so many things, not for maybe her husband getting his dick sucked by a man. Uh, that's, I think that's a fair point. Carry is so boring, so you said it was, it was, it was for sure a dirty moment.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Yeah, it was a, well, it was definitely like a low, low moment, but wow, isn't it so iconic? I mean, aren't we grateful for it? Patel make you can make the case that is relevant because Michael is groping men. Yeah. That's you can make the cases relevant. They speak about it very dangerously bad. Leanne would mess you up. Yeah it was just like oh I feel like Constellarney says when gay and I didn't like. And I mean admittedly she did not she did not think she was on camera. No, she didn't.
Starting point is 01:40:27 She didn't. And she was also on Zanax. Yeah. It was all sorts of things. Zanax has never the fuck made me tell people they're husband or gay, and then I'm gonna kill them with my bare hands. Well, different strokes for different folks, you know.
Starting point is 01:40:41 And me and Ditto make me text every boy on my phone like, come over and fuck me. And two showed up. Hey, at the same time? No, I don't think they made it. I don't think they made it at the same time. I think I didn't answer when one came. And the other one was a friend that I had a crush on.
Starting point is 01:40:58 And he just was like, this is an insane text. I know you would never send it to me. Please, I'm gonna stay here with you and make sure you don't die. Yeah, you're like, my hands, they're just hands, but they work quite well. No, I'm saying come on over so anyway, so So ba- yeah, so basically Leanne is like now feeling like she's the victim in this in this case and
Starting point is 01:41:22 and I don't know what I don't remember the context of this, but she basically said, here's my beautiful home and you're a negative bitch. I forgot where we are essentially, but it's so many ways. So, so Carrie calls her negative and Leanne, this is how Leanne defends herself in the confessional. She goes, I'm not negative. I used to have a fucking inspirational blog. I was like, first of all, I wanna read it. I wanna fucking read it.
Starting point is 01:41:50 What is on that blog? We gotta find it. If you've had your dick sucked at the roundup, that's okay, because laugh is bigger than that. You ever, you ever not learn to use your hands well? There's always time to do it. it like just because you're a negative host and you beat up on your guests doesn't mean there isn't hope for you. God bless. Yeah, she, I could, what about Leanne would make her think she qualified to inspire. Everything. That's what that's what's inspirational is that she feels like she's qualified to
Starting point is 01:42:29 inspire. So um so Cara's like just be positive and Leanne's like oh alright let's go let's go we're gonna die but let's go let's go. So uh yes now they're packing they're they're packing up they're unpacking getting ready Cameron pulls the Ramona's like is there anyone here who can help me unpack? And this is when lian's a lot less obnoxious about it though. Yeah a lot less and this one lians now lying on our couch saying like Don't kill anyone lian Jail's not worth it. It's not worth it lian and her hair is like huge and all around and like case in point She's got human head, human head. Okay, so now the women are all enjoying the sunset.
Starting point is 01:43:10 And Carrie's now, like, Karen's deaf are talking and she's like feeling very offended by Leanne's behavior. Right, Lisa. Right Lisa, right Lisa. And she feels like Leanne's negative about everything. And now, but Leanne's talking to Cameron. And Leanne's talking about how she feels attacked in someone's home. She's, what's up big negative and Cameron goes, ah, ah, ah, how do you say no in Spanish?
Starting point is 01:43:38 Because it already has the no in it so I can't just add no to it. She's like, no, no, no, you're, and then she's like, I just don't understand why the began is so misunderstood in this group sometimes. I mean, she just complains and complains and complains and everyone says she complains. That's like not cool. It's like, she says no that Leanne's not being negative
Starting point is 01:44:01 in Leanne's face. And then she uses negative comments is how she refers to them in the commercial. It's like girl you lied or I wonder like Cameron does she have like non-object permanence is that that thing with dog where it's like you know how dogs don't realize if you take a ball away they think the balls never coming back. Cameron definitely has that. I don't know how it applies, but she definitely has it. So it's just like in conversation with Leanne, she like Leanne takes the negative ball away,
Starting point is 01:44:37 and Cameron doesn't realize that the ball has ever been there. You know what I mean? And then she gets in front of the producers and her confessional they remind her that the ball was there and she's like, acknowledge us the ball. She's the ball of me. I'm just imagining you're doing that with like a nice little bowl of mint ice cream. Will there be any more mintolato? Any none? So, yeah. So now Leanne is like now on this thing where she's like, Terry hasn't not only has she not given me a chance, she's made me feel on welcome.
Starting point is 01:45:12 So now they're gonna go to dinner. And just at this point I thought Leanne had like, well probably would have come down. Calm down, it's not time. It's not time. Yeah, exactly. But so they're serving Moli P poblano and Carey's talking about, by the way, I'm speaking like Carey now.
Starting point is 01:45:29 They're serving Molle poblano. And Carey's talking about how this is like a very traditional meal and that like her nanny used to cook it for her and her nanny used to be her mom's nanny. All this stuff is like- The food looked really good too. Looks delicious. Looks so good.
Starting point is 01:45:44 So she's like, does anyone want beat salad? Does anyone want pizza out will we have pizza out and then he goes oh? I may have to pass on that just because I don't want to throw up What a dickhead I said why are beats making you throw up? You know it was I realized afterwards Maybe it was that thing about like how cuz I like aren't you like aren't you like not supposed to have salad in Mexico? Because you know, because I water or things yeah, so I think maybe that's what she's referring to, but still like a dick, a dick thing to say. If I didn't dislike Leigh and I might have left time right?
Starting point is 01:46:19 It's weird to know how you could love Kenya, but then just like Leanne cuz Leanne is basically is pulling Kenya moves She's not graceful That's okay. Kenya was never graceful. Kenya is graceful. I don't think it's ever been graceful with her No, I don't think she's like a gracious. Oh, yeah graceful. I think she is graceful with her moves really Yes, because she see she's like goes I will say she and Leanne have this thing in common They are seamlessly moving in and out of victim all the time. Yeah, but like Kenya, it's pageant like about it. Leanne's just like,
Starting point is 01:46:53 I'm her, things hurt me, you know? Which I think is a nice like it is. And Kenya. And Kenya's more like, how dare you, you know? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, first of all, you know? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, first of all, I think it's rude to say that Leanne does not have a pageant-like way because she was a miscommunication.
Starting point is 01:47:11 She's a terrible bitch. And her tagline is, and the Burl pageant's awkward-walking-a-pageant, you know, whatever it was. There it is. Oh, by the way, Dallas has some really good opening taglines that he's saying. Great taglines, right? I was very surprised because the other
Starting point is 01:47:25 franchises have been bad, especially in Atlanta. That was a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Although nothing in really top Sonia Morgan being like, what was it like in a town full of bottoms on the top? Or something like that? I want a bottom. I was like, girl.
Starting point is 01:47:37 I don't know. So then, so they're getting served this food. The staff that's serving them is just giving camera. This look like this fucking bitch right here. And Carrie starts talking about, Carrie starts, I start to get the feeling that Carrie in real life monologues a lot about stuff that's not that interesting.
Starting point is 01:47:56 Like she starts talking about Eduardo and how they met and like the, she's like, yeah, you know, Eduardo, we met and you know, we actually were both married at the time. And I was like, and I was like, that's the story. Fucking, Eileen and Lisa got a whole season out of you being a mistress and not wanting to talk about it on camera. Why didn't anyone pounce? Why didn't anyone not pounce? And Deandra dated one of Eduardo's brothers. I was like, there's stuff here. There's stuff to, like, you know, and then Deandra's like, if I knew he would have had this house,
Starting point is 01:48:27 I wouldn't date a Guillermo forever. Yeah. But Deandra was such a bitch, though. She goes, he hasn't been married, I don't think. I know. I was like, oh, sorry, he didn't have his four-year anniversary birthday bath. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:48:42 Sorry about that. She's like, oh, he's useless. And I'm amazing. Like, fuck you. I know. There was a little something in that. So now, Carrie's talking about, well, now that the kids are older, it's like a little different.
Starting point is 01:48:54 Now, I'm like, no one cares. And then, Brandy, they almost have me have a close up on Brandy's face. And she just has this bashful look and she stands up and she just walks away. And I was like, oh, I've been there. I know what's happening. I know what's happening. I had time food the other night.
Starting point is 01:49:07 You know what that reminded me of? It reminded me of flavor of love. Do you remember when the New York Times on the floor was stopped? The floor of the landing? Yeah, the front of the stairs. Her face. Season two.
Starting point is 01:49:18 Yeah. Season two episode one, her face is the face of Brady. Yeah, no, Brady had that face. I was like, I make that face a lot. I know what when you're like this, no more conversations for me. This beat sound was great. It's done wonders and a,
Starting point is 01:49:32 Good night. Leanne was right on this one actually. So Carrie starts talking about having a jewelry line and I literally did not even pay attention because I was don't think about the time. Oh, there was like pictures and everything. She's like, wow, jewelry and I do this and now I start doing this and I'm curious. How did I miss that? Because it was like pictures and everything. She's like, wow, like jewelry and I do this and now I start doing this I miss that because it was like painfully uninteresting
Starting point is 01:49:48 Like the last thing I want to hear about is like jewelry and children. Yes, so so then Cameron she's saying like I was really important for me to have my own money, etc And Cameron's like yes, you know like being honest. It's so nice. I've sprinkled on Because I make my own money now. And like, before I had an allowance, but now I don't have an allowance anymore. Why do I get an allowance for my child?
Starting point is 01:50:13 Yeah, it's like, I'm older than my child. But my thing is, your gold diggers, and I don't mean that in like a pejorative way, you married these people because they have the money to give you. Then why are you upset when they keep having the money? Then give it. Because it's like being given in a way that's like condescending.
Starting point is 01:50:32 Like you get this lunch. But you signed up for it. I think I'm not saying it's a good dynamic. I'm saying it's the dynamic. And how much, like, and how much it was Cameron's allowance because I can't imagine that Sparkle Dog was making that much. That much money, I can't, like, what the fuck? I didn't even know that Sparkle Dog still existed. And her allowance was probably huge.
Starting point is 01:50:51 If I get $30,000 a month, let's say, from somebody, I don't care how it comes. You like, here's 30 grand. It bothers me that you get to hold on to it, but I like having 30 grand. You know what, I would just rebrand it and not say it's an allowance. Say it's my paycheck. Yeah, I mean the mother to your children.
Starting point is 01:51:09 That's right. Yeah. Like, come on. That's like, that's what Buttigieg does. That's right. It's like, what about Chesson? No, it doesn't need to say that about like, you know, I think that like, like, housewives, people stay at home moms, whatever. That's a job. Yeah, absolutely. So anyway, but then they don't raise their own kids.
Starting point is 01:51:24 So you can't justify paying her. That's a job. Yeah, absolutely. So anyway, but they don't raise their own kids. So you can't justify paying her. That's true. So Cameron, so the best part is that Cameron and, and Kerrio, talking about allowances and stuff and all that, if I like allowances, I don't want to have my allowance, I want to make my own money. And then the camera just keeps cutting to DeGandra,
Starting point is 01:51:38 just sifting a margarita like, mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. As if she's not getting an allowance from her mother to the day. The editors and the producers hate that woman. Yeah. Mm-hmm. As if she's not getting an allowance from her mother to the day. The editors and the producers hate that woman. They hate her. They do. They must.
Starting point is 01:51:50 You've convinced me. So now this is our talking about pre-nubs and everything. And. This was funny. I love this montage of pre-nubs. But remind me, well, it's actually didn't write down what they said in the montage. But remind, if you can remember.
Starting point is 01:52:03 Brandy doesn't have a pre-nup because she and her husband had nothing. Yes. So then they cut back to her later, and then she's like, everything is his mind. And then she cackels to death. Karenman talks about how in Dallas, everyone has a prenup. And that one of her friends,
Starting point is 01:52:18 she's heard about prenups where you get bonuses for making a certain weight. And she's like, and I would just eat a cupcake in front of you every day You know, I would just eat a cupcake in front of court every day and say whammy Which is Spanish for way to go And in the Stephanie's like she has a prenup Stephanie has a prenup and the ends like well I don't know if we're not having a prenup, but I know that Rich will never leave me. I was like okay, okay Does so Deandra she's like we have a prenup, but Jeremy didn't even read it
Starting point is 01:52:53 He just was like I want to marry you and so he just doesn't let me so much. I'm wearing love I'm happy he's not you on me at all mother all right, and also he you think he didn't read it you think he didn't And also he you think he didn't read it you think he didn't read it There's a lawyer who got a copy of that right now I guarantee it so then finally stuff things like um, where's Brandi? So she goes to knock on Brandi's door and there's like a commercial break like Dun dun dun like she died. I'm like. We all know she has diarrhea She's sitting she's taking a big ass shit and check an Instagram like we know this right Karen you're
Starting point is 01:53:31 I just want to thank all the people on the phone For being kind of me when I had to poop And I'm like wow she's really committing to this poop branding like she's really here first episodes this poop branding, like she's really here. First episodes, Brandy and Poo. Bring it back. And so Stephanie's knocking and she's like, Brandy, Brandy, and then Stephanie and the professionals, I think she has diarrhea.
Starting point is 01:53:52 And she's like so happy to round this. I love that one. I love that one. I cracked up. Oh my God. So then Brandy's just like on the bed. She's like part of it that she's clearly drawn, part of it she's got Tariya and Stephanie goes,
Starting point is 01:54:05 you know, I get it. I mean, I've had a poop that wore me out and I had to go sleep afterwards. I think that's what happened to Brandy. I love that. She put her poop business all out there. Oh, yeah, she was like, hun guts are running wild.
Starting point is 01:54:21 There's like, there's like that toilet at the rest stop was like, whoa, damn. So now up at the table, they're talking about daughters and stuff. Carey S. Leanne, if she ever wants babies. Leanne's like, well, I had a difficult childhood and I just wouldn't want to, you know, do that. I wouldn't want to continue that soccer, whatever. And care is like, what? But, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:54:44 No, it's just to say that Carrie Bess, like, well, I did too. I did too. Yeah, she didn't even, so this is, I'm like continuing that soccer whatever and cares like what but uh, go ahead No, I was just gonna say that carry bass like well, I did too. I did too Yeah, she inter she doesn't even so this is the one minute all episode I was on the inside you ask me why didn't do something you ask me and I started to tell you why didn't do something You interjected to tell me why you're better for deciding to do the thing you just didn't let me explain why I didn't do it. Well, say to it. That's exactly correct. And this is why I start to think that sometimes Carrie might be a monologueer. You know, like a talker atter? Right. She totally is. She didn't listen. She just did it right there. She's like, well, I did too. My mom was an alcoholic.
Starting point is 01:55:18 And my parents were divorced. Are you getting this producers? Is it storyline? storyline? Anyone? And if you know it, and if you don't learn from those things, life is too short to waste on negative energy and negative people. How dare you? How dare you? And also you blew your wad, you idiot, you put down what you thought was a Joker and she got the molestation card card. That's why you got a petition, you got a wait.
Starting point is 01:55:42 What kind of conversation strategy is that? Oh my mom drank too much. There might be a molestation victim in the room, relax. Excuse me, there might be. Words to live by. Yeah, so Leanne's like, she's like pulling up or sleeping. She's like, she's like, hold on, one second. She's putting her dukes up.
Starting point is 01:56:02 She's like, oh, okay, oh, your mom's not like a whole. Oh your mom was not a haul I joke. Hey. Oh in alcoholic in like a rich family where you had a nanny right where she had a nanny growing up And then you had an age who's now she's ranked you much. Okay. All right. Let me see Let me pull up these carny sleeves Cuz I was raised in a carnival Not metaphorically an actual one with like a fairest villain tribal you know all right, well I had a really different childhood. Okay, I didn't have that faith This actual molestation made where I didn't trust man or women. Yeah, I said that. I said that She said every two weeks. I was like for eight years every other weekend She's like I'm not only gonna pull the card. I'm actually a poet and a higher new deck of bicycle cards
Starting point is 01:56:46 And it's for magicians so every single card is the molestation card Okay, because it's not just it's the eight eight years You times a week like honestly and like so then what she does later makes me so mad because I'm here with you I get a girl you got violated like fuck and I don't know where it happened but imagine getting violated on a biweekly basis by like the bearded woman or something like that that's like awful and so like you're out here my which isn't to say the alcoholic parents aren't damaging but carry man you messed up you walked into it you should shut the fuck up. Yeah you should it. You should have shot the fuck
Starting point is 01:57:25 Yeah, you should have saved you should have like saved it for it's I mean like you said like an alcoholic parent is like That's full on damaging full and full full full but Lea Leanne was starting was was about to open up and then you went that and just lay on like okay I'm coming now now I'm gonna shut you the fuck up. Yeah, she did. And then she's like, not only am I gonna shut you the fuck up, I am gonna pound you into ground. She's like, most people who've been through what I've been
Starting point is 01:57:51 through commit suicide by 30. I only try three times. I was like, oh, I was like, damn man, I didn't know that you could use suicide like a knife. She did, she did. But it was like, but that's the sort of like mellow dramatic the way she says that is that mellow dramatic Line reading that like all these shows need They need that they need that no bell. I'm on with they need that like dying the line that comes right out
Starting point is 01:58:17 Sure and like moments like that you're like this is awful what Leon went through But man this is like she's wielding it pretty goddamn well. And then carries like, so carries like, oh my God, I have no idea. And then Leon's like... That's why she should've shot the fuck up. Okay, it makes me feel bad. And carries like, and given the opportunity,
Starting point is 01:58:34 oh, probably try again tonight. Yeah, that's right. Oh, okay, Leon, let's settle down. You're like, relax. All right, you didn't, you didn't have the beat salad. Okay, relax. You're not gonna die. What else? Hand me that beat salad, okay? Relax, you're not gonna die. What else?
Starting point is 01:58:45 Hand me that beat salad, let's try it again tonight. I just wanna shit to death, like, what was crazy? Given the opportunity, I'm gonna try again tonight. So let's find that rope bridge, okay? Let's walk across it. But Carrie's response in the confessional was so bizarre. And I was like, has she never read about her talked about suicide? She was like, this woman is talking about killing herself
Starting point is 01:59:13 when she's about to get married. And I was like, oh, you think, oh, I'll take away. That's what take away. And pending up shools is why she shouldn't offer herself. Not maybe you love her. You're worried about her childhood. Hope she gets help
Starting point is 01:59:25 It's you're about to get married. Ray you clearly don't know that the best way to stave off suicide It's a fallen love So yeah, so then Liam like then she does I mean, it's a shame like you have to watch soap dish Because this line was like right out of soap dish. She goes, I apologize. If there was negativity today, but I didn't get much positivity growing up. And I survived with what I could. I was like, I'm not gonna lie.
Starting point is 01:59:55 I was impressed. That was, I mean, the fact that like, the reason why I was like negative today, I'm 50 won because it's hot outside. Yeah, because I had a tough childhood. I was like, this because it's hot outside. Yeah, because I had a tough childhood. I was like, this is why I just have to like, you just sort of drop some mic somewhere. I picked up a pencil and dropped it on the floor.
Starting point is 02:00:14 So I was like, this is how you, that was really good. It's like that is that melodramatic soap opera. Like, you know, it is really good. And like when we was talking about Yala fixed my life, it is exactly the thing Yala would say to somebody about themselves But Leanne said about her Like Yala would be like you are a child you didn't receive positivity
Starting point is 02:00:36 But Leanne's Yala Like I watched retail a vision and I can tell you the reason why was a bitch today. I wasn't love I watched retail a vision and I can tell you the reason why I was a bitch today. I wasn't love I came out I cannot believe that it's possible But she does it and I will give her that she does that well walking up all these stairs for minds We're walking up the stairs get to the slide Game those and they never gave me a burlap sack so I'd go down that thing and my thighs Would be squeaky do you know what that's like? I was not treated well.
Starting point is 02:01:08 And so then just to put a cherry on top. So everyone's like, okay, let's just go to sleep. And someone's like, what time we're waking up and Leon goes, when God wakes us up? And if he doesn't, then thank you for my time on earth. That was when I was like, okay, now I'm gonna kick you down a bit. And I really thought how Stephanie handled this moment was super, super cool because obviously we had just seen a moment where she had been talking about being triggered by conversation about suicide or whatever.
Starting point is 02:01:41 And she sort of, instead of engaging, sort of, sort of seem to step back a little bit and then inter-professional talked accurately about how Leanne was weaponizing suicide. But I was very glad for Stephanie to she didn't appear to be anyways triggered by that. Yeah yeah I was good you know Bravo put up the suicide prevention number which was responsible But like I also like I think one of the reasons why people should watch jealous is like I never thought I'd be like Having this like like cracking up about like And suicide like we're not laughing about that no, no, no, no, it's part of the
Starting point is 02:02:21 Scene where that's just so hilarious. Yes, you Yes, it was, and I hope Carrie learned her lesson because you don't go, like, you don't know who bit assaulted in the room. You're crazy. You don't know what people have gone through. Yeah, absolutely. And how dare you decide, even if she had heard what Leanne had to say or even if what Leanne had to say didn't Trump,
Starting point is 02:02:44 not that these are like, you know, Trumping. Yeah, like everyone goes to their own trauma. But like, even if Leanne and her had had the same exact experience, the audacity of you to talk to basically a stranger and tell them that they handled their child at trauma the way you didn't and it was bad, fuck you. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, but so deeply entertaining. Yeah, that's great.
Starting point is 02:03:10 So deeply, deeply entertaining. And good, good game. And I think though the big takeaway is that if you're gonna pass judgment about someone and about the trauma that you've been through and that they might have been through, you don't do it like that, you get a podcast. And you talk for two hours about it. Ray, thank you so much for coming on.
Starting point is 02:03:29 I always tell everyone where they can like follow you. We should've done it at the top of the show. Oh, it's okay. Ray Sonny on Twitter, Ray Sonny on Facebook, I'm actually in the Crappens group. So, you know, I might come in every now and then when I'm wasted and I have thoughtsins group, so you know, I might come in every now and then when I'm wasted and I have thoughts about Southern Charm Noreland.
Starting point is 02:03:47 Ray has, you are good for having thoughts. You are good. They're great, they're really good. I do think this was my first post in the group. I think Jeff Charleston is the hottest husband on Bravo. Well, he's single. Oh, oh, he hasn't, well, I don't wanna date him. I don't want a man who takes off running
Starting point is 02:04:06 when he's upset. That's scary shit. But, so, I would totally fuck him. Would let him pick me up and throw me places. He's so hot. Especially after he got his moody makeover. Oh, it's, no, I think John moody is really hot. I do too, but he's so bogus So he makes me laugh more than but then there was I follow Tamika on Twitter and to Tamika on her you know local New Orleans new show
Starting point is 02:04:37 She had a John as a guest during the season and she posted what do you want? What do you want us to ask him? And I'm like, will you marry me? She totally did not. Of course she didn't. But all of her followers lacked it. Oh good. Because it's the question we all want to ask. My question is, when will he pose new?
Starting point is 02:04:57 That's more my question. I know. But I mean, we've seen them in like trunks, right? It doesn't look like there's a lot there. I don't care. I just want to see. I just want to see like I'm never I'm not happy to get to see get to get to confirm for yourself. Exactly. That's it. I just want to see a picture. So yeah, um uh at RISONNY and twitter RISONNY um Facebook uh I'm a writer on blackly sketch show the seasons over but please go back and check it out if you haven't
Starting point is 02:05:21 I'm very very proud of the work that we did there. Yeah, I just, you know, LA is the town where everybody does the podcast tour. So I've probably been on something you've heard before. Yeah, you go on a bunch of them and you're always a great guest. So thank you so much for coming on and subbing in for Ronnie.
Starting point is 02:05:38 Really appreciate it. It was so much fun. Thank you. And thank you everyone for listening. We'll be back next week on Monday. Ronnie will be back and we're gonna be talking some Potomac reunion, which I mean, I can't. I'm not even gonna mention that because I know
Starting point is 02:05:51 that two of us are gonna start talking more and more about it. Thank you everyone. Have a great weekend. Bye. Bye. Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Watch Your Crappens Add Free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today. Or you can listen Add Freeer Crappens ad-free on Amazon Music, download the Amazon Music app today.
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