Watch What Crappens - RHONJ: If The Grudge Fits, You Must Acquit

Episode Date: May 12, 2022

Part two of the Real Housewives of New Jersey reunion barrels along this week with Andy mending fences between Tre and Joe, Jennifer hauling out oversized printouts, and lots of talk about fat shaming. You ruined your night! No, you ruined your night! No, you ruined your night! No, you ruined your night....Watch our recap with Crappens on Demand here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/66309536See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I'm Ben Mandelker, joining me today. The one, the only, my work husband. The man who I spend all week with Mr. Ronnie Caram, how are you? Hi, man. How's your day going so far? Good, it's been a day. You know, the sun came up and you just keep on trucking. That's the matter. What happened? Getting that truck turned the key and you sing some carry underwood And you just keep No, everything's good nothing's wrong. I Honestly, I took an aspirin because there's a lot of screaming okay before this I was watching Grillhouse

Wise of New Jersey. Yeah, it's a lot of lady screaming fuck you at each other and then I went to lunch with my sister And she's like it's so loud, can we move outside? Which you know, I mean anybody who knows me knows. Outside is not my place. Outside was not built for me. So I'll take that. You don't like eating outdoors? You don't like eating Alfred? No, I don't like anything outside.

Outside's disgusting, it's a horrible place to be. So I went outside with her and guess who sat next to us? A table of ladies who much? She was like a 10 lady birthday party. Wow, so it was another table of ladies who much who was like a 10 lady birthday party. Wow. So it was another hour of ladies screaming because ladies who much for a birthday party can't just pick. Oh my God, happy birthday, Lewin. Happy birthday. It's like, I'm gonna go. It's a birthday. Look, we know, okay, we know. Good. Get your fucking iced tea, filmed and shut up. Oh, I'm so sorry you had to go through

that. I was fine. Actually, I listen to every bit of to go through that. I mean, it was fun actually, I listened to every bit of it. You know, I did. I was like, bye ladies. I bitch about it, but that's right. You're right. I'm like, I'm like, thinking about it now. I'm like, wait a second, Ron was probably doing a whole bit for them.

You probably begin to realize. I know, half of them. I just described my personal heaven in a way, but yeah, it's just been a lot of ladies yelling today. But, you know, hey, it got me ready to come talk about ladies yelling. Yeah, well, I have not had ladies yelling in my life today except for watching Jersey Which we're about to recap but I'll tell you one thing. I'm riding a high a very specific high. It's called A waffle high as in I had a Belgian waffle for breakfast and I'm riding that waffle high All through this recap today, Ronnie. I am excited excited about that much like there really is something special about

starting a day with a waffle I have to say I don't get to do it often but it's happening today also before we start the recap just a reminder that we have lots of amazing crap and merch available just go to crap and smurch.com it's really cute stuff I'm actually wearing some of our old merch that we are no longer making anymore, but that's a reminder that our merch comes and it goes. So if you like a design, get it before it's gone. I'm wearing the Warhol, Andy Warhol, kind of a slow way on thing. Maybe in honor of the Andy Warhol painting that soul. Warhol. Andy Warhol. I mean, you sound like a porn movie. War hole.

You know, it was funny. This is a little aside that I was, I was like, you know what, I'm going to try to be smart this week. I'm going to watch the BBC news. So I turned it on and they're like, this week, Andy Warhol's, Andy Warhol's Mary Malau when Rose sold making it the most expensive piece of American art ever sold a auction. I was like, they have a little new country's art. Well done, well done, Marilyn. I went to a thrift store this weekend. I went to a couple because it was a mother's day. So I went shopping with my mom to all notift stores, like consignment stores and stuff like that. Fancy thrift stores.

Okay, it's what fancy people call thrift stores. And they were like Marilyn Monroe and Audrey Hepburn paintings and all these stores. And I was like, did all the gay people, were all the gay people just murdered in Texas? Like, what queens left these behind? Because you know that there are queens who were just like, I've had it. And they left their Maryland behind and someone's like left to consign it. You know? They left Maryland and Audrey consigned.

And they even put them right next to each other. And one of the stories, like, here's the gay section. Okay, sir, that's all for you. The rest is iron couches, okay? I'm sorry. We are no longer doing Audrey Hepburn and Marilyn Rose. We moved on to Olivia Rodrigo as our artist of the show. I'm sorry, I'm too old for that.

I'm too old for that flavor of gay. Okay, even Lady Gaga. I'm like, okay, children. I wait, one last decide. Dom was watching some sort of video that was like behind the scenes of the Mecala. And they were talking like these people It was like Olivia Rodrigo and glam and she's like I have synesthesia. I think it's synesthesia She's like yeah, I see things in color so like the ball the mep ball. It was like very purple for me

I was like okay, all right enough enough I see things in color. Wow congratulations. You're like a newer kind of a TV things You know, I feel things in color. Okay. But she was like, clearly, I just learned about this concept. I'm annoyed with you, lady. What color is that? What color is my annoyance? Color my annoyance, please. Okay. Well, here we are with the real housewives of New Jersey. Yeah, we are revved up and ready to go so

We start with Joe Gorgah Storming off the stage being like you know what I quit. I don't need to do this anymore. I don't want to do this Okay, I quit I quit goodbye. So we walked on he's I'm out of here. I don't need to be called no pussy bitch. All right. That's gay. That's gay right there. All right. And Melissa's like, you know, you're so quick to put him down to research. I'm not putting him down. I'm not putting him down. I love to, I mean, Teresa is really remarkable. Just her stupidity. I'm, she calls her brother a bitch boy and I'm not putting him down. Was that

empowerment? Was that something? Did you write that to him when he graduated high school? I mean, what the hell? You know what? And then Joe's going off to the guys now who are standing there and they're like ill-fitting suits that they have to wear twice a year, you know? And he's like, you know what?

My sister is not a sister. Okay, listen, you can tell yourself the same thing you told yourself every time you made out, then jean you're high. Okay, your sister is your sister, okay? And if she's being terrible to you, that's called having a family. So, buck up, buddy.

And so he's like, that's terrible. And Lou, Louie's like, you sister? What's going on? What's going on with your sister? Huh? And then Joe's like, you know what? If you listen to this, she wouldn't say that, huh? And if I, you know what?

I quit. Fuck this. I quit. I quit this show right now. I quit. And then he's like, we can't hear anything back here, right? It's like no ears, one mouth. All right, this is what it's like back here.

And Joe's like, one mouth is all you really need. Am I right? There he is. There he is. Frank is just like running into the vending machine to law where are you I can't find you I can't find you someone bought me toys to law huh and so back on the stage Teresa's like I mean me I mean the pun and down and Andy's like but you did just put him down you're demeaning him by saying what are you even doing here and Teresa does this thing with her mouth and let me clear all the spits that's been building just put them down. You're demeaning him by saying, what are you even doing here? And Teresa does this thing with her mouth.

And let me clear all the spit that's been building up. Hold on. Swallow. Um, she does this thing where she just opens her mouth. And then it looks like a gift that you didn't time properly, because it just keeps, it doesn't close all the way. It just keeps reopening. Okay. Like that. Like the loop is a little too short. Like it's pulsing. Yeah, like her jaw just starts like pulsing open and close and it cracks me up because she does that.

It's like her mouth blink. Like when she's blinking too much to even keep blinking so hard that like she's so incredulous that her mouth starts like. But this is a good time to mention that this is a crap and it's on demand recaps. So if you wanna see Ron and you're reenacting Teresa's credulous, her mouth starts like, but this is a good time to mention that this is a crap and it's on demand recaps. So if you want to see Ron and you're reenacting Teresa's

gift face, go to patreon.com slash watch for crap ends. This is my failure, not mentioning the top of the list. Oh, so Andy is like, please go talk to him Teresa. You know why I ain't putting him down. He's my baby brother, right? Like he's used to me kissing his ass and now he's upset I ain't kissing his ass, alright? And then he's like, think of kisses ass, okay?

I'm children. Well he's go kissing his ass some more. So then, Joe, he comes in and finds Joe Gorgas, he's like, hey, hey Joey, what happened? And Gorgas's like, you know what, I'm done. I'm done with this nonsense. My assistant keeps saying you're getting involved with the women. I don't get involved with the women I don't want to get involved with anyone. I quit I quit. I'm in a point to a phrase

If this were Instagram, I have a phrase but my head that says when it's time to quit you quit because that's when you know It's gotta leave because that's what a man does and I love Taylor Ham You know what I say to all those kiddies. I ain't gonna hang in there you fucking cat, all right? Use both your powers. You're gonna fall off that fucking pole. You're hanging off of on that poster, all right? And merge back on stage. It's like you can't call has been bitch boys, okay? It's inappropriate. It's whether this is. It's any Preppier and she's like the same if you got on the show to fuck my husband then you're gonna have to deal with the rat Yeah, Margaret's like you know what this is gonna get a cilantro to reaction from it So then Teresa's like, Joe Joe, are you serious? I guess is no what tree I quit

Okay, I don't want to be on the. You think I give a shit about the show? The only thing that's getting brought me success and attention over the past 11 years, I'm fueled my Instagram followers and the reason why I can do stand up in Atlantic City. You think I care about that? No. And she's like, nah, because she goes,

yeah, you know what, Louis, you shouldn't go out there either. Cause you know what, you say one thing to defend my sister or your wife? You know what they're gonna call shouldn't go out there either. Cause you know what? You say one thing to defend my sister or your wife? You know what they're gonna call you a bitch, alright? And she said, I don't know, adding to saying, cause like, he ain't gotta go out there and defend himself from this fucker, Joe Bonino, and his fucking wife talking about my boyfriend all season long, alright? And Joe's like, yes, so why is he doing it for you, right?

So Danny's a bitch. You understand the bitch logic of the bitch reunion? You know what I'm saying? And then back on stage, Melissa's like, yeah, I mean, she says bitch, but then Louis's going over there and fighting with Margaret. What's that? Margaret's like, yeah, he says to me,

you don't intimidate me on your best stay. What is that? Exactly. And so then back to Joe and Trey, he's like, Louie, you know, don't defend my sister or your wife because you're a bitch, all right? Just sit and just frig, just sit the frig right there. Which I like that. Joe's like curbing the cursing,

just for that when, sentence to Louie. That one moment. One moment, sit the frig right there, okay? So Dries is like, well, he mad that I defend him because the whole bitch boy thing one moment sit the freak right there okay so Teresa's like well he mad that I defend him because the whole bitch boy thing which is like I love that Teresa's acting like it's a crazy thing like oh someone's mad that that I didn't defend them it's like Teresa your entire existence on the show is you getting mad at people not defending you starting with Melissa so the

Louis is like well he's the only one doing with the housewife drama So then three says like that's what I'm saying I don't want him to do it I don't want to do it. By the way, Joe at this point is now gone to the bathroom So we hear him yell out from the bathroom You have a sister on the show and a wife excuse me and just miss the toilet bowl. Sorry about that There he goes So then back on stage, Jack, he's like, Jen, can I just say, you know, you have to use soft moments with Teresa, but I wanted to friendship with you. Margaret wanted to friendship with you. We're trying to

have a friendship with Jennifer. And I just don't want to say anymore. Can you just stop acting like this? And Andy's just like completely over it. He's just lying down on the chair, texting, you know, finger in his ear. He's just sticking out of his mouth. Yeah, the literal finger in his ear, just like scratching his ears. He's like, well, Jackie's speaking right now. So I don't really care about this part.

So she's like, I just want us to move forward and then he goes, wow. And he thinks like he's actually saying, wow, to what Jackie's saying, but turns out he just heard Teresa yelling. He's like, okay, I'm gonna go check out on Teresa. I just like, like Jennifer, a Jackie's like trying to have a bonding moment with Jennifer and Andy

just does not give a shit. If it's not Teresa, he doesn't care. Yeah, so then back with Teresa, she's like, but he is kind of a bitch rank, cause like he doesn't, like he said, it's like he gets in war too much, right? But like, you know what, I wish it was more of a bitch Joe alright I want you to tell Margaret to shut the fuck up okay then I won't call you so much a bitch boy okay cuz I fucking

that Margaret and Joe but you know you know what the them to walk about Louis you should slap him upside the hat that's what you should do so he's not a bitch boy. If he jumps into the mess and goes after Margaret, but he is a bitch boy, if he defends himself against Jennifer, that's three-sys logic. He's not, he's only called a bitch boy. If he is being a bitch boy to somebody that you don't like, or like if you're doing what she says, then it's okay. It's usually, you know.

So Andy comes back and he's like, what's going on? And Joe's like, what's going on? I quit. That's what's going on. They're like doing makeup on his face. It's not getting a manicure. He's like, I quit. That's what he said. I want me to call a pussy. You bitch. You out here with the ladies, you know, and Andy goes, can I Teresa? Teresa, Can I just tell you we want him here? Okay, have you ever seen this back? All right, this is the one time here I just get to gaze at him. All right, you all I've been living your lives on television this family for years And we've come so close just totally obliterating all your family bonds just let us do the final deed Please Teresa

So I'm at the stage Jennifer's like well, you know what like Theresa isn't that way when we go out It's just like she's like that in this group cuz she doesn't want stuff to be brought on the show And that's that and Margaret's like, but you know what it was I would be on the show it was in the forefront I right it was all over the internet. What are you gonna do? What did I invent the internet and I'll live at the internet. What are you gonna do? What did I invent the internet? And Jen's like, yeah, absolutely right, Margaret.

But she would never say with Teresa sitting there. So Melissa's like, you know what, they're having a whole scene back there without me. And I gotta go there and make sure I can get my two words in. Okay, so she gets up and goes to the backstage. She's like, wait a minute,

people are saying family over and over without me getting to say family number. Hold on, I'll be right back. Family, family. You don't support family. Wait a minute people are saying family over and over without me getting to say family number hold on I'll be right back family family. You don't support family family family. All right girls. I'm back So then backstage and he's like well You say to him that he's in the women's business. Well, I wish you would tell Margaret shut the fuck up Shut the fuck up and Joe's like I don't tell Margaret to shut the fuck up! Shut the fuck up! And Joe's like, I don't tell Margaret to shut the fuck up. And you know why?

Because Louis, whatever I told you, I want you to talk! Are you hiding anything? No! Alright, so then the first day, that met him. You know what he says? Talk about his camp, okay? And I think, okay, three sets, I know, and that's triggering word for you camp.

But he has his own different camp. It's a safe camp, okay? Are you embarrassed about that Louis? Uh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Louis came on the show and he just stopped his on the internet. So I would be asking him the same questions of Margaret's asking him. And Teresa's like, ah, yeah, about my Margaret is supposed to be my friend. You got it? So like, friends don't do that.

You know what friends do? They tell other friends to go pull their friends here because they secretly hate that bitch and want her off the show. All right. Yeah, exactly. So now Melissa shows up. She's like, guys, what's going on? Like if, listen, if Joe doesn't want to out the show. All right. Yeah, exactly. Now Melissa shows up. She's like, guys, what's going on? Like if, listen, if Joe doesn't want to do it,

he doesn't want to do it. Don't let a pissy off with these little things she says. Come on, let's go everyone. Family, family, family, bye. Yeah. So, Teresa's like, but I would never put you down a draw. And he's, and he's already, just a few days.

Several times. You did twice. Tonight. And she's like, ah, ah, no idea. and he's a he's a few days several times you did twice tonight and she's like And he's like listen, he's talking. I refuse just listen. I'm curious because I ain't tell me which part It's like eight four 11 years. I've been trying to talk to you and I want to have relationship with you Okay, and I love you But you say some nasty things tonight and we're not even hooking up no more. What's even the point of that, huh? All right, I'm sorry.

She gives him a little hug. The end. Okay, come back. We're not done with this show yet. And just like, all right, I just don't want to argue no more. All right? Mev and the team the turn of mom. Momul Baggy.

I don't want to fight no more. Hey Andy, my hand just touched my dick. You want to shake it? Come on. There he is. So then meanwhile, so then we go to commercial break. And when we come back, there's like that in the break, high jinx.

So Dolores is FaceTime and her new boyfriend, Polly. And he's like short-list in the FaceTime. And she's like, hey, Polly, guess who wants to say hello? It's Andy Cohen. And so Andy sees him and is like, whoa, hey there, you got no shirt on, what are you doing, dude? He's like, a naked, he's like, ow, and Andy rips the phone away.

And he's like in love with Polly now. Just knowing that Polly, like FaceTime didn't naked to the reunion, he's like in love with Paulie now just knowing that Paulie like face time to naked to the reunion he's like Hey, Paulie's Irish naked which is even hotter. Yeah, so he's hot and boring like has nothing to say which is like so beautiful for Dolores. So then Andy's like welcome back, later Joe Borga and the rest of the bitch boys will join us. But first I want to talk about Dolores from searching for the perfect man to having the perfect house. Will anything in her life ever have real wings? Do you have real wings?

That's all really anybody wants to know Dolores. So he asked about her mom and she's doing, you know, the mom's doing well. And then Andy asks about like, she's like, so where does Frank live these days? Is it Chinchilla still throwing its pee at his face? No, you wanna know where Frank is living? With David, yes, it's true, with David.

And one of them's like, what the hell, Dolores? I love that Dolores is always starting an answer with a question. She's like a weird version of self-jeperating herself. You want to know what Frank is living? With David. And David's always the answer, by the way. And yes.

But the house you built with David, David and Frank are now living there as lovers. The Frank Evan and Calm Busy come on. And she's like, yes, but you know what? He's building a house, right? He's in between stuff right now. You know, he's in between knees, all right? We've gotta let his knees heal up before he goes into more debt.

Ha, ha, ha, in between knees. So the Lord says like, you know what? And he's like, well, are we living in the town house or the regular house? He's like, let me get this. You wanna hear about this? I got a call one day saying they sold my townhouse so now I'm loving my house and you know who you know who bought my townhouse David yeah you know what he's

gonna turn it into a store you know what the store's gonna sell cookies actually it turns out it was gonna be cookies and then you get got into dresses and you know what's called? David's bridal, can't escape him everywhere. Heh heh heh. Commissions, here comes one right now. Celebrity beef, you never know if you're just gonna end up on TMZ or trending on Twitter,

or in court. I'm Matt Bellasife. And I'm Sydney Battle, and we're the host of Wonder Woman's new podcast, Dis and Tell. Each episode explores a different iconic celebrity feud, from the build-up, why it happened, and the repercussions. What does our obsession with these feud say about us? We're starting off with a pretty messy love triangle between Selena Gomez and Justin and Haley Bieber, a seemingly innocent TikTok of Selena talking about her laminated eyebrows.

It snowballed into a full-blown alleged feud. But it doesn't seem like fans are letting up anytime soon. Despite both Selena and the Bieber's making public statements denying any bad blood. How much of this is teen jealousy and lovers quarreling, and how much of it is a carefully crafted narrative designed to sell albums? Follow this and tell wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. So you've been with Polly. He starts asking her questions about Polly and then we get into the who is better friends with Dolores fight via Polly, okay? So he's like so who's met Polly and Marcos? I've met Polly. I love Polly and Trees is like

No, no, I think he's right Was he different from David? I never hung out with David. Oh, you know what? I've hung out with David I think I was both of them actually You know, he's I've if I had to compare them I would say that he's definitely more boisterous with David, you know, and I've known them both because I've seen them But the truth is like She's you know what she you know what? You know what? He's more demonstrative than David Why he's a demon. That's not nice. You say she's not real French talking shit. I read it about poorly, huh? That's not nice to say she not real French talking shit. I read it about poorly, huh?

And how does he feel about the unusual relationship with the X and the worst is like, well, you know, he's fine How does he feel about it? He's fine with it because you know, he's very close with his X2 So and he goes have you met it have you met his X because lovely Lovely lovely lovely, lovely woman. She parked her scooter in the living room, so she and David have a lot in common. Well, the rumor is, the David is dating one of Louis Axis. And Toulouse goes, it's true, and Trees goes, ah, because it's not really one of his axioms.

It's like someone who's seen it a couple of months before for a couple of months, like before me. So one of his axes. Yeah, fuck. Like, what are we reinventing the language for you now? Okay, you barely know this one. You don't need a third on your plate. Yeah, and Dolores goes,

well, I mean, they were together for two months and then the day that he met you to reason, he never called her again. So there he goes. And so he's like, okay, so he ghosted a woman for you, and now she's with David, that is wild. So many people in New Jersey, I don't know why you guys keep circling your drains.

Wow. Yeah. So Kathy from my belly button says, what did you learn from your experience with that aging vampire David Dolores? And she's like, listen, I learned a lot. It was five years, you know, I mean, it's almost as many years as Teresa took to finish the eighth grade.

So it was quite a bit of an education. And I think we got a montage of everyone basically coming down on Dolores about David, et cetera. And Dolores goes, you know what? Once I care about someone, it takes a lot for me to walk away from someone. But once I walk away, I'm done until I walk back into the kitchen and then into the living room. And then back in the kitchen and pick up some dried spaghetti that Frankie spilled everywhere. But then I'm done for the afternoon that I'm back.

I walk to the shelter, to the living room with the shelter's log back to another shelter to get rid of that dog to the original shelter to get a different dog. That's how I got Andy. So does Paul, he's been a lot more time with you than David. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, we see each other at least once a month. I mean, it's just so much more than before. Well, it's fun.

We think of that? The cameras. All you have to do is look at her Instagram to see how Polly feels about the cameras. He's like, hey, he's got like, tweez the eyebrows within an inch of their life, a spray tan and a constant peace sign and a perslip for the cameras.

He loves them. He loves the camera. So he'll fit in just fine here. Yeah, so then Dolores goes, you know what? Does anyone want to walk in on this and just get destroyed? We all know we sign up for it and Theresa Theresa finds anyway just to go after Margaret's guess. Yeah Well, does anyone want she's like what you snutter was getting destroyed unless other people try to other people who we've got Have dinner like that one over there. I didn't destroy me.

Nah, you didn't destroy him, but you try. No, no one tried. I can't know when trying to destroy it. Literally, it's ridiculous. All right, back to, you know, back to the riveting conversation. Would he do the show? Yes. Any chance of wedding bells?

Are there chances of wedding bells? Who knows? That was two questions, but you know what? Sometimes you got to break your own rules. So next year might be you with the big rock. Next year will I have a big rock? Listen, this is a great place to take a break. Hey, you're reading my card. Well, get on with it seriously. What are you gonna ask about my fucking alligator bread next? I mean, we're done here, right? Jesus. Uh, I would have brought some alligator bread here, but guess what? It's that David's.

Who would have thought? So Theresa, recently Rihanna said, Theresa resonates as a mom. I'm gonna be a mom just like Teresa is a mom. Rihanna. Seriously. I mean, okay, it's officially time to check on Riri. Okay, get a hold of your damn self over there, Rihanna.

Okay, you've gone too far. Rihanna, you've like literally never done anything wrong in like the 20 years you've been in pop culture. You've been kind of like amazingly always just like resilient and wonderful. You've never had a bomb, you make up, you make fenty. It takes over the world. You've never done anything wrong. And then this, this is what you give us.

You don't even, this is what you get. Your look up to Teresa Junais. And I'm talking like Jackie Mason. What's happening? I don't know. Yeah, Rihanna, rethink, rethinkanna. Okay, rethink on up. Please. Yeah, please reanna because we know what the office is just listening. So then we get my favorite section. If being a kid,

New Jersey is a trial by fire, these kids were all Tartan Suther, like a bunch of witches to the center of an 1800s town. Can we get a clip of all in the center of an 1800s town. Can we get a clip of all the children being burned alive, thanks. So it's like the, I don't know where that was going, but I was like, what is he talking about? Um, then we get a kids clip and after, I'm a negro. I, yeah, I just checked out.

I was like, you know what, I'm going to cut my toenails. So Ben can have fun with this part. We only need the equal part. So then there's some questions about like how how did Jackie's kids like camp? Hey! And then it's like Theresa's triggered all over again. You judging me, your kids are binticamps.

No Theresa and actual camp for children. Yeah, well they should be command the crimes if they don't know the times, all right. And then there's this random thing that I didn't even know about until this reunion. It was like Jennifer, you criticize Margaret for sending her kids away to sleep wake am.

But why do you think giving your kids and all the experiences assigned to bad parenting? And then we see a headline. The headline says, Jennifer Aiden slams Margaret Joseph's parenting, criticized his Margaret because she put her kids in camp so that she could spend summers in the Hamptons. Like, literally, that's the best thing I've ever heard.

Like, why would you ever criticize that? That is genius. Genius. Why do you think it's the way camps are there? I mean, why is Jeff Fracks like, as her world so limited that she doesn't realize that there could be fun outside of Paramus, like, I feel like if she knew that there were fun places beyond the mall down the hill, she might actually put her kids somewhere so we can go to them. Yes, and also the campus for the parents like the parents need a fucking break, okay?

Period. My mom would be like listen, you don't want to go to fat camp? Well, I want to go to wine club. You see your point of fact camp. Bye. Like that's just it, you know, and I had, I mean I wouldn't say fun. Actually, yeah, I was traumatized, but the point is for most of the kids, it's built for most kids.

Yeah, to go have fun. And it's easier for someone like Jennifer to say, I'm just a better mother because I'd have to stay home. I just want to be with my kids. Well, you fucking don't, you've got two nannies on your schedule. So that's, you have nannies, other people have camp, okay? Don't portioning everybody else 18 toilets and parameters. I know, I think this means that Jennifer has nothing

going on in her life, because if she sends her kids off to camp, she realizes she just has to sit there with a bunch of gray furniture from Z gallery and like face the emptiness of what's going on in her world. So that's just my, that's my, that's my impromptu theory, but I feel pretty good about it, you know? Yeah, it's great. Unless you're being traumatized.

Well, I mean, sleep away camp mind was like super religious. So it was like, okay, and you know, arts and crafts and then prayer hour. It's like, oh, for fuck's sake, you know, and then we had fat camp for Jesus. And I had sex camp for Jesus. Like I learned about dick at Jesus camp, you know what I mean? Like there was just things that just crossed a camp that I just, it was traumatizing for me, but other camps sounded fun, because trust me,

I would ask everybody about other camps. I'm like, so are there any other camps? They're like, inhale. Inhale, there are. I went for the filming army camp in the Adirondex, so it was definitely not very Jesus-y at all. Oh, it was fucked off. I'm right here.

Actually, it wasn't a performing arts camp the first year, but the second year they rebranded to that. But I remember, it was literally, it was such a camp that in retrospect, of course I went to this camp. I remember there was one of the drama counselors was best friends with an opera singer named Carl Vaness and she would come out on the weekends,

and practice opera, and I would sit there and listen to her singing opera. I think of course I would do that. Like of course this is my summer experience. But it was great. You know, she might get... God, I wish that was my summer. Anyway, camp, right? So Margaret's like, you know what?

Because something about, oh Andy goes to Margaret. He's like, so Margaret, you have stepkinsley. So I hate your guts, what's that about? And he's like so Margaret you have step Kim's like your guts what's that about and she's like you know what we have between us we've got six children and only one of them hates me currently so and you know what she really is on team big whale so you know what I say and Jen's like well you know kids are resilient they can go to bed and she's like, well, you know, kids are resilient. They can go to bed. And she's like, you know what? You were in shock when you were crying, okay? We were all in shock, and I was just trying to comfort you.

That's all. I was just trying to say kids are resilient, okay? Like, what do you want? Yeah, and she's like, you know what? It just didn't land well, okay? It was, I'm sorry, it just didn't land well, okay, I'm sorry. So then- Like whales, actually. Yeah, can'm sorry, it just didn't land well. Okay, I'm sorry. So then- Like whales, actually.

Yeah. Can't think of it. I'm really still traumatized by that fucking whale lawsuit. Okay, never gonna let it go. I literally cannot even eat red vines after what Vityant vines did to me. Okay, it's a lot. Not even chiseled, not even a cousin.

Not even a competitor. Okay. So then we learn about, we're talking about, sorry, I'm talking about Gia, because Teresa went with Gia to her 22nd birthday on a yacht. In Miami or something like that with the Bahamas. And, um, and then Andy starts asking about Gia being concerned about Louis.

And so Teresa is like, well, you know, like she was concerned because like, it went the first guy I was with was when after jaw so she just like wanted to make sure Everything was okay, and then he's like so it wasn't the stuff that was on the internet already She goes no not not a dad. She goes because she said on the show is the stuff on the internet They show Geo being like yeah, there's a lot of stuff out there on the internet that I'm a little concerned about my She know cuz it's the first guy since She's like yeah, but the only reason it was even out there in the first place is cuz Margaret put it out there

Everything it's like hey Teresa rum break right now. Do you want a snap? I don't know because you know what last time I heard she went out to windy the snap a lady that was Margaret who were windows like will they have this come become the the snap a question turned to Margaret. Yeah and he's like the stuff was out before the TV show even started shooting to reset. She's like by nobody know about him. Yeah he's like he yeah, they did. I guess they did. So Jim's like, well, the exes of the ones petnate out there, because they're like, oh my god, these exes just really want to bury this guy.

Also, we didn't mention earlier that when they asked Dolores, if David was really dating one of Louis X's, that Melissa and Jen were like, oh yeah, but it's not one of the crazy. It's not one of the crazy ones. Yeah, it's not this crazy. First the X's. So really, I like it's classy, doesn't it?

My God. I know if you have like eight crazy X's, I feel like that's from point. It's like, maybe they're not the crazy ones. So yeah, Teresa's like, basically, so the X's why do to hate this guy so much, right? And so she's like, because he's in Theresa, Jordace, and she stands up and starts twirling around in the stress that she can't even fucking walk in. And she's like twirling around and she's going, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, I know one whole stuff fair this time You know that that's the evil queen who says that line right what are you quoting and you also made yourself the wall

Quite down over there blue white Okay, nobody's buying it So it's just Jen back at the man like you are Some mark was like wow wow, wow, wow. And then Teresa's like, well, maybe if he would, maybe Mark would joke that this won't be happening. I don't know. And then even Jen's like, okay, all right, Teresa, come down baby, come down.

And Mark would say, you know what, you are so pompous. This is so, so pompous. And Andy just like looks down on his nose and he's like, wow, this is more exhausting than normal. Oh my God. You know what I really like watching lately? There's something called passenger shaming. Instagram.

And it's just about terrible people on planes. You know those videos you see on the internet of people just being awful and they're getting dragged off the plane. And they just won't listen to reason and they're just yelling at everybody on the plane like fuck you. You know, that's Teresa. Teresa, it's like 13 years of passengers. That's what Teresa is. 13 years of COVID plane behavior, you know, it's just never fucking stops with her. Yeah, it's, that's a very good, that's an apt comparison.

So now we're going to the anorexia segment, which I'm only calling it that to make this point. The commercials and he's like, right after these messages, we'll be talking about anorexia. And it goes right to Brittany doing her Nutra system commercial straight into a lap band commercial. Like guys, like can we at least plan our messaging a little bit better than this? I mean Jesus Christ. We're going from adorexia to latband where you can literally only eat a spoonful of food. I'm not saying a latband is anorexia. I'm just saying like if you don't want to trigger me about eating disorders maybe place those in a different place. Yeah. Is there no trolls movie coming out?

No, the trolls are, they're having their own issues right now. So, and I don't know what that even meant. I just, I like to think that trolls are like, I'm glad you said that because I was gonna Google trolls you know, like, no, just a matter of the trolls, just like, reeling from the repercussions of fame. Like, I got my own eating disorder now. So, so then anyway, so now we have Jackie

talking about her eating disorder, struggling, her struggles and her recovery. It's really interesting segment I actually thought. It was very sad, very sad, but hopeful too, because she's on the up and up. She just talks about like, she's, she's out of the dangerous own with her health. She's more open about how she eats.

She's not like, she threw out all her measuring spoons. She, she talks about how she would only eat two meals a week in front of other people. And if she had to go out more than two times, she would split those meals in half. Very sort of like, it's very sad to know that she was living in this prison, you know, inside her head in many ways, but like really great to hear that she's on the up and up. I am really appreciative of her sharing this entire journey on the show very candidly and I actually think it was like very fascinating and I would have loved to have seen even more of it.

I had a, I mean, it was a nice story, but yeah, I don't need to see more of it. I'm one of those who's like, no, nothing real, thank you. I mean, he just called the real challenge. So naturally, it's probably like, it probably hits some notes for you that, you know, a little bit.

Yeah, I don't mean more food segments. So Andy's like, so, it must have been frustrating to see Teresa Fatshay Margaret, right, Jackie? And she's like, no one should Fatshay anyone ever Andy. And she's like, oh, come on, you're trying to something about if you watch which eat, you want to have to get lab by every week.

And then we see the clip of the tweet that's like, well, if you watch which you eat, you probably wouldn't have to get lipo every week. I mean, damn, that Jen is really good at regurgitating this tweet. I thought the two of us, like, damn, her memory is so good. Like, I can't remember things from a day ago.

I'm like, she is ready for that. But you probably can just remember. She's got the memory of an elephant, right? And then Jen, then Jen's like, you know what? Well, because Jackie said, well, I said that because you were making comments about me, so then Jen goes, it's like, well, you were talking about me.

You were saying that I fell on the floor because I'm no lightweight. I'm no lightweight. And then we see a clip of like Margaret talking on, like the, someone the after shows where she said, you know what, like, God, she's such a lightweight. We had to peel her off the floor. And oh, she, we had to feel a lot of the floor.

And she's no lightweight, you know what I'm saying? And so the Jen's all upset. Margaret's like lightweight means you can't hold yet alcohol, genitha. There was not fat shaming genitha, which it was, you know, it was like an obvious weight choke. And Teresa's like, yeah, one one of the she says goes down whatever she's gone. And Martin's like, she but she fat sh to me. And it was very, very clear. Theresa was very clear. Theresa was like, what am I saying?

What am I saying? Yeah, well, that might ask, would you go in the leggings that you have? And then he goes, and also that you never miss a meal. Martin never miss a meal. Everybody said, so then she goes, okay, I take that back. Sorry about that.

But the leggings, I structured them take that back. Sorry about that, but the leggings, I structured them so make your ass look amazing, which isn't easy because they're chicken so much because it's so big full of fat and all the dinners you never miss, huh? Yeah, and if you took it down the way, I'm sorry. Marj was like, I didn't take it that way. The whole world took it that way to reset.

She's like, you know what, you know what? You wore my line, my line, so thanks for that. And she's like, no, you ruined tonight. You ruined tonight. No, you ruined tonight. You ruined it. You did. You did. You did. You did. You did. Jesus Christ. Please you guys and Teresa finally gets to this is just a parent segment. So she has It's like it takes Teresa five minutes to realize what's happening So the entries is like all right fine. I'm Marker's like You know that reunion left. She does and then she goes you Teresa goes you're a dick Yeah, actually I'm not a dick. You are a dick. you're a dick. Yeah, actually, and then-

I'm not a dick, you aren't dick. I'm a dick. You are, I'm not. You're a dick, I'm not. You are, I'm not. You are, you are. You're a dick. And then Andy goes, okay, well,

we are talking about eating disorders. You're like, oh, it's like, oh, that's right. This moment of the like, you ruined your night. You ruined your night. It's like been like the funniest thing and it's been all over the internet for the past two weeks And I never would have thought that this was right in the middle of Jackie's like very serious eating disorder segment But you know there it is So she's like well, I mean, I guess everything this comes out on your lap then right Mark and she's like no

It comes right up on the internet to Lisa And he's like okay, okay, we're not even talking about this right now. I mean, you understand how those comments could land poorly, Teresa. Yeah, so come five people in my way. Okay, you do a branding 101. Okay, don't fat-shit me a customer, put a wheel on your leggings. Okay, branding 101. You think you know everything?

So that tree should just start screaming shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up over and over again at March. And, um, yeah, I mean, it's just mortuary. It's like this whole reunion industry is it just screaming shut the fuck up. Mostly at March. So Andy's like, welcome back to from James says Jennifer, every year, you get more plastic surgery to think you're sending the wrong message about body positivity. How should you even be able to ask that on a housewives show? I mean, just the asking of that, like how dare you, sir.

You, this whole channel is a negative message to body positive. What the fuck are you talking about? There isn't one person on this show who doesn't look like Chuck E. Cheese at this point. It's true. This is definitely a network that loves to glamourize every surgery, every enhancement, every vampire injection and cryo, something and clamshell armpit, cold, hot treatment, whatever. So, so Jennifer's like, listen, no, I'm not doing that. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not telling the wrong message about parip purified activity mister because I had five children and eight ten toilets.

And so I say it's solid. I think it's a solid to say that if I have an atomic track I'm allowed to have a atomic track. And of course I was breastfeeding children. So of course I had breastened them plants. I didn't know we got smell of those stinky kids that got to have a nose job, okay? And then I get so sad people say cheer up so I got to get a cheer them plant. That'll make sense. It's all body positivity baby. Yeah she left the chin part out. She's like, you know, I just don't think that's excessive, Andy. She unzips her face and like puts squeezes in a second now.

Is that a second nose on your face? You have some other kids who seem to you haven't smelt the same Andy. Uh, so then Andy's like, well you mentioned to me that you're quitting plastic surgery because has it right now. I mean there's nothing left to do Andy. I mean I like my butt. It's big enough.

All I have left is a fourth breast. Yeah, because there's a third one on my back right now. And I don't know. Maybe I'll just move my legs around and different parts of my body. I don't know how Andy. Yeah, it's easy to say you're quitting something when it's done, right? Like I finished a bag of peanut m&m, so I'm like, I'm quitting. Yeah. I'm like, yeah. Like what are you gonna do now? Eat the rug? Like you're done. It's over,

okay? You didn't quit. You don't get a fucking parade for quitting peanut m&m, sir. Yeah. So Andy's like, Jen and Marge, it fought for years. But this year, charges of hypocrisy were hypocrisy, hypocritical, and hypocrisy, hypocrisy. I'm gonna try and say it as many times as we've heard that word the first half of this season, hypocrisy. Anybody? And Jen knows that this is her second, obviously. And so her veins start, you know when Jen knows she's about to start fighting and her

veins start popping out. She's like the Hulk. She's like a Botox Tulk because you see the veins trying to pop out, but they can't. So her skin just does like a little. You see something happening. I'm like, I know those are veins, but it's like three parts of the forehead to start bulging out. Yeah, it's like when the aliens about to pop out in aliens, but never really wake us out there. The aliens like, excuse me.

So Andy's like, so we got a lot of viewers who are so impressed with how you owned immediately, actually was just really one viewer from Beverly Hills named Lisa Minna. Well, I don't wonder who that is. And Jen, if you're gonna come for me at least, come correct there. and he's like well Was Bill mad about you not denongly affair or was he mad that he had to deal with it?

He wasn't mad at all. He just doesn't speak. That's what he does I know him though and he's highly embarrassed Andy he feels like no words can be the justify and the spark he just knows is getting charged. Well, Elaine from Boosler says it's extremely frustrating how you and your mother deflect from bills and fidelity, but rather than focus on Margaret bringing it all up, he made the choice and you choose to hide it. She goes, oh, Bill did what he did, and I was maddened, and I forgave him, and then when she did what she did, I was maddened and I forgave him and then when she did what she did I was mad her and I forgave her See look I have lyrical Parallelism something like that anyway, it's a process. I don't just jump to it

But nobody would have should have would have known about it with a Margaret don't get a tree said. Yeah, she brought it up. She was trying to ruin everyone, yeah. She's the bringer, Appa. She's like the opposite of the bounty towel, all right? She's the bringer, Appa. And Andy's like, well, you know, the rule in housewives is if you've got something to hide, do not come on a reality show.

And Tim jumps like, but we discussed it. And I wasn't going to forego something. I wasn't going to forego something. I wanted for a mistake. He made it. This was the first time I did something for me. And he was nervous, so I knew it could be a thing. But he said, if it comes up, it's just tonight, tonight, tonight, and then I said,

no, I can help people. I can bring depression scratches to the world. Yes, she's, I mean, I mean, they did kind of, it was our first season, right? When there was all, I think Margaret was the one who's Justin in the first season that Bill was like, up to something in the pool house, right? And they did deny it back then.

So hey how are the kids dealing with all this huh? And she's like well, Justin I know reaction by night I don't care but Justin cuz I honestly have been on the show for about four or five years and I don't even really know who Justin is. But we didn't want to talk about it and Kathy was hot broken but kids learned by example so I just had to spend some time with her gay uncle and she came back singing show tunes and I was like she's set for life. And then I don't know like I just wanted to show that time with her gay uncle and she came back singing show tunes and I was like, she's set for life.

And then I don't know, like, I just wanted to show that. Mommy and daddy are okay. We just suppress our memories and move forward. Okay, and get chin and plants. Everything's great, Andy. So now the kids are okay. Would you call them resilient? So Andy's like, so Melissa,

you said in the press that infidelity is tricky. She's like um, I'm Melissa and I married to Joe so Yeah Like if I have to leave somebody for infidelity. Could you imagine you Joe has probably fact a one of the little horses outside the grocery store I like yeah, you don't know what that guy's gonna stick it in What are you gonna leave him every time it leaves his pants? Hey, but I'm not by a show of hands who thinks infidelity means again to the marriage So Jackie races her hand but so does Teresa which was surprising but she's like yeah, Teresa. Oh, yeah Teresa's super standard upper against infidelity as we've seen for the past decade on this show.

Yeah, she's like, that's just my opinion. I mean, each is all I mean, listening, you know, like actually I can't think that like once they're cheated, it's not so much of the barrage over. It's more like it goes on for six more years and maybe each of you goes to the ails and everything and then finally it ends up to that point, you know. I'm like, remember the scene in Napa, my, my cut fitness wife over there, huh? My cut fitness wife. So Melissa, I see you're still saying Jennifer's being fake. How can you say that this season?

She's not authentic when she's been so sweet this season. And today we're seeing her true colors as being not sweet at all. I just don't get where the fakeness comes in. And Melissa's like, well, she did an article saying, I'm fake. I love that the argument, especially on Jersey. I mean, it's like this really for like every reunion type show, but especially on Jersey.

Every answer, it's like, you did something wrong. How do you feel about that? They did it first, Andy. Yeah. They started it. That's the biggest argument in the show. I'm also dust that. She goes, well, I think if we roll back to the beginning,

you know, it was you, I think you couldn't both agree that it was you who started the ship between us. Is it fair to say that? Of course, Jennifer's never going to agree to that, right? And he's like, but you got, yeah, Jennifer, you called her a crooked. Because can we talk about the cricket? Do you have a few minutes?

Okay, hold on one second. And she pulls out these big printouts we're behind this so far And he's like whoa, I talk fast and to don't worry. I can sell my presentation right now. Okay, so look on May 19th I woke up looking like this Exhibit a it's just like a photo of her like in like Plastic like it's like she's like It's just like a bruise out from gau's, you know, because she's just had faith surgery.

I just think I woke up looking like me, saying it. And Jen's like, and I had to wake up to the every sponsor's and Joe was saying, you go baby, and Mark was saying, you go get a girl. How do you think that made me feel? And Melissa's like, well, you're on a show called Real Housewives of New Jersey. Sorry, that's how it goes. Yeah, which was interesting. It was sort of like a moment of like listen, sorry. I have to sort of, I had to do, I had to go in on you because that's part of what we have to do during the offseason Like we have to fight on on social media. So Jen's like, that's fine.

And so I retaliated with my post, Xana, ba-ba-ba-ba! And so she pulls out a shot like the Instagram post, the first sitting chair being like, Cricket, Cricket, Cricket! And he's like, whoa, this is like a damn talk, last! It's almost done. I talk really fast, Mr. Real fast, Mr. They're just both so full of it,

because Jen, because the next one is supposed with my caption, and so Melissa comes to my page. Melissa goes, well that's the way it goes, it's called Social Media War. Yeah, exactly, which is why your husband has been called a bitch boy, because he's fighting on the social media war. Why is it okay for you to do all of this stuff? You fucking hypocrite. So she's like, but that's my response to her response, but that was a response to your

response of the reunion response, which is a response to you at the reunion. Which was responding to you. It's all like you started it. And she's like, well, this is my response. We all saw quick and family. I've got it real big. So that wouldn't have been said. If this hadn't been said, okay, I was attacked. I was attacked and look at my face. It's attacked and he looked at my face. He's like, didn't attack your face. Do I want to close up? I will say I do think Jennifer won this one

because Melissa be like, I think if you roll back, you would see that you started this and it's like actually Melissa started it. And then she's like, well, it's a social media war. I mean, that part doesn't count because it was a war. Like you're the one that's like, well Melissa is saying Jen started it because Melissa made the post

but she made the post based off of what happened at the reunion because Jen was saying all this mean stuff at the reunion. But you know, it's like this is the way you can't have it. You started it fight because you have to go back to the beginning of time on these shows to see who started it, you know. Yeah, but either way, we'll most make it sound like

Jen said crooked in a vacuum. And she may have said in a vacuum like an actual physical vacuum like, you're crooked, you're crooked, but it was actually Melissa who like started with the Instagram shit. So, um, so, she started, she started, yes, she started in the venue that they're talking about. I mean, I guess it's like, she started the fight at the Denys. Yeah, I think the fight had been going on.

It was like commenting on the reunion that was currently airing. Yeah, some Melissa's like, oh, okay, she wants us to look at her elective surgery and feel bad, huh? And Jen goes, true, but I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. And he's like, well, you know, they didn't actually

attack your face. That was really just the people on the internet, but actually not your gas mates surprisingly enough. And she goes, I was heavily on pain meds, and a lot of pain, Andy, I was. And he's like, I mean, Melissa's like, okay, you know what? I posted that because I was watching the reunion, and you were rolling your rides every time my husband and I got,

oh, we're talking about one little thing for like two seconds. And you were like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, you're so selfish. So now, yeah, your point is, your point comes up, which is that actually now we go back to the reunions who that Jennifer was the asshole first there. So I, yeah. It's just like you can never, like don't choose sides and stupid, okay?

It's all stupid. So then Andy's like, Buffle for mozzarella is tasteless fight. He says, Margaret, cheating on somebody is different than being cheated on. Why would you compare your situation to being a cheater, cheater, pumpkin, or do Jen being cheated on? And Marja's like,

let me explain this. Okay, you know what? She finds men. She finds women for men's behavior. So you know what? I was the worst, but Bill was the worst as well Okay, and just like well, I just want to be clear

When did I say that Margaret's a horrible person? I only criticized what she actually did I'm just like, I don't know Jen. Okay. I'm a liar. I'm a whore your motherfucked people. I mean come on Jen You are hard about to me with all of that stuff I never said you're hard, but just a total flagrant slap. And so Teresa goes, well, yeah, you know what, Jennifer's got a sharp tongue. Just like you, Margaret Joseph,

spread lies around Tana Flan, Margaret Joseph. And she's like, well, it sounds like, okay, you know what, when you live in a glass house that you barely paid for, I really didn't pay for it at all, okay? With that specific subject, why hammer it down and throw that what she did with her husband was, so you know what she did with her husband, you know?

Why do that? I also, I love, of course Melissa says, starts with a, when you live in a glass house, but doesn't finish the metaphor. It's like, get to the rock part, Melissa. Get to the floor. When you live in a glass house, you shouldn't have hammers down your throat. It's like, wow rock part Melissa. I know. When you're living in the glass house, you shouldn't have hammers down your throat.

It's like, wow, thanks Melissa. And Jen's like, a lot of people have secrets. And she goes, yeah, but why hammer down her throat then? She's like, because she was bragging about it. He said, Joe had to watch the stent of your office bodice those wife didn't find out. And Margaret's like, oh my god, I cracked a joke for Christ's saying. What is kids see that?

It's like, oh my god Jennifer, can we stop with the kids see that? Any real housewife should be fucking embarrassed to have children, okay? And I can guarantee you any child's is embarrassed that they have a real housema, my mother. Every kid is made fun of for it and every dumb shit thing they do is made fun of it school, okay? Brickett is made fun of for it and every dumb shit thing they do is made fun of it school. Okay? You, like Marge says, were fall down drunk many times, telling people off, telling them to fuck off, and going online and doing all this shit. All your children are embarrassed.

Also, when we see the footage of Margaret saying that she was not bragging about the situation, Basin Moulissa was like, the first time I had sex with Joe Garaga, there were rose petals everywhere. And Margaret's like, yeah, but the first time I had sex with Joe Benino, he had dicked a shot and said, I don't want to smell like you, my wife, find out. She was actually deprecating. Like that, it was such a non-romantic,

kind of like grimy kind of situation, right? Like it was not her being like, I stole the man. It was not that at all, but of course, Jennifer sees it that way. Well, I get it. You know, like if someone's like, Oh my god, my husband was married, and we were cheating the whole time. So you have to take a shower to hide it from the wife. It's not funny. Like, I mean, I can imagine telling that to a

group of married people is not going to go over that well, you know, but it wasn't right. At the same time, Jen, you know, is going wasn't right. At the same time, Jen is going around like, I'm sorry, I just don't relate to people who've had affairs. It's like really, because you relate to one like literally every night at home, you know? So, or it's kind of your both right and your both wrong. It's the same time.

She's less offended by the person who went to jail for fraud than she has by Margaret Margaret who just is like living her own life. So Margaret's like, she wasn't affected by fraud yet. So so Margaret's basically like, listen I cracked a joke because it was an awkward thing. I never said the word stench either. Okay, I did not use the word stench. Okay. would stench either, okay? I did not use the word stench, okay? Hey, well you say Jennifer needs to own her behavior,

but you haven't, haven't you also called her a concubine? Her sits are a male, older bride, and mocked her lip liner, yes I did. I made very funny jokes, okay? Let's be honest, those were all hilarious, every single time I saw one of those, you're buying it. I mean, monkeys asked, well, that was the classic. And I don't know if any of you have seen the bench

in Teneflie Park that says, monkeys asshole, that's for you, Joe. And has a little finger pointing to have it, you know? It was classic. Yeah, and you know, I didn't mean anything bad about it because when I said the thing about a male or a bride, I was holding a little baby in my hand for some reason, so don't worry it was all came from a good place. Yeah I mean yes that's your tasteless joke she made but like are we gonna bring up every

single tasteless thing I mean we're gonna be here all day. Also like I mean like how many seasons there needs to be a rule on like how like when things expire in housewives world. Well I'll tell you one thing that did expire, apparently Jennifer being a self proclaimed comedian. That's just what I am. I'm a comedian, baby. I crack jokes. You know, I'm a funny person. And people just don't get the jokes, baby.

So apparently that career has been left by the, you know, the side, and the sidelines. She's no longer in the world of comedy. And can't compete with Joe, okay? So, and he's like, so, why do do you, oh Melissa's like, oh wait, so now we're sensitive to mail order bride compared to slut whore and your mother is a whore. Are we all insane right now? Sweet baby Jesus.

And Andy's like, well why do you hate the woman who cheated with your husband, but not your husband? Is that a fucking trick question? Why do I hate the woman who cheated with your husband but not your husband. Is that a fucking trick question? Why do I hate the woman who cheated with my husband? You fucking kidding me? I hate the woman who cheated with my husband. Why would hate the woman who cheated with my husband? Not that I would be with a husband or a straight one.

But still, of course she's gonna hate the woman who cheated with the husband. And she's like, yeah, well, I'm married to him and I stayed with him. I don't know this, but yeah, what would I? I'm like, you know what you ripped the pharmaceutical company to get a fire and Jeff is, hello to it again. I'm like, it's like, but she could have had a family. She could have had children. You could have ruined her career. And Teresa is like, yeah, but she was going with a married man. She was going with a married man. I love when they break out like the 1950s slang. Yeah, she was going, huh, they were steady for a bit, huh? So Margaret's like, let me.

She was so happy with a married man already. I'm firmly team tree and Jen on this one. I mean, I think this is to be like, with that poor woman, had a family. She was fucking a married guy, okay? If you're gonna be fucking, look, and we've all had mistakes in all past, so I'm not like totally stoning anybody here for it.

But like, look, if I'm fucking a married guy, and then the wife or husband comes after me for it and tries to ruin my life, I'm not gonna sit there and act shocked about it. Yeah, but I think Margaret's ultimate point is that basically Bill continues on with like an illustrious career, but heck, he's brilliant. Not really.

Not at this point, he doesn't, you know. So because using that argument, why is it okay for you to go after Bill and ruin, you know, his career and his life, you know, the way she's standing up for this woman who cheated. I don't know. This is iffy for me. Well Margaret's like, you know what, you know, you way she's standing up for this woman who cheated. I don't know. This is iffy for me. Well, Margaret's like, you know what, you know, what you're always saying is the woman that I was the worst in Jennifer goes, it's the person who is a guy. I do the same thing.

If theoretically bill was sleeping with a man, I mean, I could never really imagine that, but if it were to happen theoretically, I would go after him the same exact way. I would take on his Madonna and share doesn't burn them in a pot, baby All right Yeah, I don't know about that one I'm firmly not on that team because I think like she shouldn't I don't think March should be like shamed for the rest of her life And I don't think Jen had any right to be shaming Margaret Well, I was firmly team Margaret on that whole thing, but I think the whole question of like,

why not be just as mad at the man? Like obviously she worked it out with a man. She wasn't married. It's like you're not supposed to be mad at the, I don't know. I don't know why I'm so hung up on this either. It's really, it's this problem. I'm getting tripped up.

I will say that I do think I, of course, she should be mad at like everyone all the above by the way be mad at both of the people who who partook in this. But I think like I think that the I think that the lion share of the anger should go towards the person who's in your relationship. In this case, the husband and I guess I just don't see why March doesn't see that obviously Jen is going to hate Margaret for being the other woman when Jen was the other woman. Like it's obvious like projection of her own problems on the Margaret. And Margaret says that later on. I mean, in like about two minutes, she's like, you know what?

It all would have been solved if you just said I'm projecting. I think it's very clear that clear the reason why that Jen came so hard for Margaret or all these years is because this is a very sensitive subject and she was the other woman. And so like, of course, Jennifer would be completely triggered and I think that's 100% understandable. But I think that sort of also goes back to what I was sort of saying during the summer house, recap, which is that ultimately it always feels like the guys get their come-up ins sort of more privately and more. It's like a different kind of come-up-ins than the women get.

And I think that Jen has all the right in the world to be furious with someone who was an intro-loper in their family, but it always feels like the more aggressive anger goes towards the woman and then it's always like, well, and I told him, I told him that night, you you better, like, you know, like you better not do this ever again. And it is, I do think that there's a double standard

in the, um, reprimands on Bravo as far as we can see. Well, yeah, I would not agree with that. I think my whole thing is just like, Marge, Marge always acts so surprised. Yeah. Like, why would you be so offended? You know what I mean? Like she just acts like, what,

like what could I possibly have done here? And it's like, come on now. She has a nuance argument that's very difficult to get across, which is not that like, I'm not, I think she's saying, I'm not surprised that you're upset, but it annoys me that you're so angry at me, but not as angry at Bill.

Although Jenna ultimately has actually a pretty good response, which is like, I'm married to Bill. I'm married. I love him. So like, it's a different context, so that's understandable. But that's what Margaret is. She's not taking away Jennifer's anger. She just doesn't understand why there are

like two different responses to two different shooters. Right. So, well yeah. And I think that's a hard argument to make. Like Jen says, she's not married to Marge. She doesn't have to make it excuse for Marge. That's right. And I think that's a hard argument to make on a reunion.

It's a hard argument to make to the person who's been cheated on. And it's just a hard argument to make in general. It's like a requires like, it's very easy for that argument to get misinterpreted. And we've seen Margaret just sort of like fail at making that argument. Oh, well, I think so. Yeah. And I think my point is just the same as it was the very first second that Margaret brought this up on TV the way that she did bad timing because it's just

put her in a situation that's like, Oh, you're using this stuff against Jen. Instead of really just letting Jen be a villain and be evil and then letting it come up that way and being on a booger has been cheated was a big deal. That would have been such a big deal but Margaret coming and still trying to fight about it is like and make some like a deeper point about it is like you were just probably wrong for doing that and everybody being like but you're on TV and that's just how it happens of course people were gonna bring up your ass your husband's affair the second UK mom this season. It's just like, oh, I mean, that just feels icky.

It's like, let's just wait till the first episode. And then let's just hammer her with Bill's affair. You know, it just, it comes off icky and I wish Marge's answer was a bit more like, you know what, I had a situation where I was very angry at Jen for the way she treated me all those years and I held this and then I used it against her vindictively. I apologize to her for it profusely. We cried together in a coffee shop of a Snickers creamer that I had to bring in my own purse. Thank you very much. And that's it. It's put to bed. I'm sorry again, Jen. That's it. But for her

to turn it again into this, like, you know, it's the woman versus the man and this and this and that's like No, you just didn't have done that, you know, but that's kind of the New Jersey way, right? It's like you started it Yeah, you started it. So ultimately they wind up just like going after each other in markets like you know What we should have said you should have said years ago, and we could have bond it. We could have been so perfect You should say Margaret. I and we could've bond it. We could've been so perfect. You should've said, Margaret, I am projecting, which I don't know, I don't know of Jennifer. Jennifer's like, I didn't know you.

I don't know if Jennifer's obligated just to like declare that. Like Margaret, in Margaret's mind, she's like, if you got some shit in your past, get ahead of it. That way you don't have to, it doesn't bother you. And I think she gets frustrated when people don't do that.

And then it turns into a thing and then they all have to deal with it. And she's like, why don't people do what I do and just get ahead of it? So I think she gets frustrated when people don't do that, but that's ultimately it's up to the person, it's not up to Margaret. And then they just start all yelling at each other. They just start like all screaming about the situation and Margaret's like, you know what? I don't like it. I don't like it at all. And he's like, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

And Jen's like, I said one little thing. One little thing and a really, because Jen, by the way, keeps on minimizing the fact that she was actually really rude to Margaret. She was like, you stupid slut, Skang. Like, record it, please. Well, see, that's the thing. That's what's annoying me about it

is that Marge came into this season as the clear hero, right? Because Jen was just like, there was no doubt that Jen was just the monster this whole time before. Like Jen has been vile to market. She's been viled at her the whole time she's been on here. She's been judging her for her past mistake and throwing it in her face and doing all of this and like trying to not, trying to make her feel shame

as much as, I mean, even making her mother feel shame as much as possible. Jen was clearly the villain, but you see how everything's been muddied now because of how she did it. It's like it's just sucks because now March ends up being kind of a villain at the end of this only because of timing. Fucking Jen. I mean, fucking yeah, they show that clip.

And she's like, she said he had to watch the stand shot father. She's like, how dare you. It's like, but we've all said things are not to show. And Marge is like, but that's a sick fucking thing right there. And then Andy stands up and screams, SHUT UP, YOU'RE ALL TALKING. And loses a shit. And that was for the second episode.

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