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Episode Date: May 5, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Get ready for a double load of Queen of Hearts! It's me, Jujubee, and I return to guide sexy singles through some ronchy blind dates. Cameras off! Voice only! Launching during Pride! Queen of Hearts takes Miami by storm, with Daeders' Cupi from Tampa Bayes, Just Chaz, and Brittany Brave to name a few. Follow Queen of Hearts on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. I have cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cram, cr Well, hello, and welcome to Watch What Corruptance! The podcast for all that crap we'd love to talk about on Eat Old Brods! I'm Ronnie, that's been over there, how'd man?
Starting point is 00:00:51 Hi, how are you? Good, how's it going with you? Um, going so well, we've had such a tremendous day already. I'm just like, I'm thriving, Ronnie. I'm thriving and coasting up the high of an amazing first episode of the New Jersey reunion. Yes, so it is the real housewives of New Jersey day. We can see each other. You can see us, okay?
Starting point is 00:01:12 Cause we're all crap and it's on to my own, on Patreon, so go over there, check that out. This week with Patron, with crap and it's on to me, and you get a couple videos a week. And also bonus episodes, bonus episodes are every week and we were going to do a celebrity interview this week, but instead we did selling sunset episode one. We're not going to recap that whole show, but we had to check him on it. So that is up tomorrow or
Starting point is 00:01:38 Friday. And we interviewed Mr. Carlos King, um, Uber producer of Housewives, really good guy. He has his own podcast, Reality with the King, out now, which we've both been listening to and learning a lot from, loving it. And he was so much fun. So we just got off the phone with him a little while ago. So it's like field trip over, field trip day over here. It looks, we went to the museum. Yeah. I feel like we just started how pizza's got made.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Guy. I also feel like we just made a new friend. He was wonderful. And by the way, that is going to be a crap and it's not a demand. That's a video too. So you get to see, you get to see all three of us. And he is, he's adorable.
Starting point is 00:02:20 So like you should definitely watch that. Yeah, super cute guy. So check him out on his podcast, Reality with the King. And so I'm here on What's Your Crappens tomorrow, Thursday. Okay, and in the meantime, guess what we've got to do? Recap Real Housewives of New Jersey. My head hurt like, I mean, my head was pounding by the end of the, and I love it. Yeah, I love Jersey. I love Jersey.
Starting point is 00:02:45 I loved the first episode of this reunion. J-Evil Jen is back. She doesn't even give a shitting anymore. I love it. I love it. It's a disaster. God, these women yelling. And Teresa's stupidity is just mind numbing.
Starting point is 00:02:57 It really is. Oh. It's like every now and then, I mean, she, it's, you can never underestimate Teresa's ability to come to her reunion and trot out her stupidity. Like her de-seated stupidity, inability to listen to logic and reason and very self-serving. I mean, she could honestly run for public office
Starting point is 00:03:24 at this point, like a fat deep. Like, she's so skilled with her stupidity, like, she could make it into high office. And I, you know, I did love it. I have to say I was cracking the whole time. I thought it was really funny. But it was like, wow, you could sit on the Supreme Court, like, for the amount of respect I have for you at this point. You know what I'm saying? Like seriously. By the way, America, what the fuck? Like we don't talk about that stuff that much on the show, but what the fuck? Can we get it together?
Starting point is 00:03:53 Can we get it together already? I'm over it, okay? I'm over it. Let's get it. Let's all decide we're gonna stop taking this shit and get it together. This is fucking ridiculous. Okay, so the welcome to the real house
Starting point is 00:04:05 I love, Moonser, really. You know this is a big reunion. They don't even bother with any, like there's not like the 10 minutes of people sitting in makeup and Andy walking to every dressing room like hey Margaret, hey Jennifer. It was just like Margaret walking like, hello everyone, do you have ice coffee?
Starting point is 00:04:25 And then it was like boom, right into like the trailer, right into the reunion. Yes. And yeah, they had a little bit of that, but there's gonna be so much yelling. We'll just, we'll save it, you know. Now, I do have to say post-COVID, I've been the biggest complainer of COVID.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I know nobody has loved COVID, so it's not like I'm making a huge statement here, but I've really been somatic COVID. I'm over it. And I have to say, I hate COVID, but I loved COVID seating. That is one thing that I loved about COVID. I loved people having their own chairs. One of my favorite reunion seating setups was Real Housewives of New York when they all sat in those giant chairs in a big summer circle. I loved that.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I want it back because now I'm looking at them and I'm like, why are you all squished on that couch? Just disgusting. You're too close to each other. It's funny that you say that because I was thinking back to COVID reunions also and I was thinking, like, remember how fun it was when Andy could literally just hit mute on someone?
Starting point is 00:05:26 Like, it could just be as simple as that, you hit mute and then they just have to be quiet. And I was like, I do miss like having that functionality in a reunion. And so it's really funny that you brought that up as well. Bueller is running laps behind you today, by the way. I know, he's trying to get the attention from me. He was like, I'm gonna be on my dog bed instead.
Starting point is 00:05:45 And I was like, no, but I love you. So I pet him. So now he's like, but now I'm sitting on the couch because you love me. And you know, it's like a whole thing with him. So I'm hoping some crazy bird like shows up behind me in my window so I can have like an animal as well, but I don't, birds don't care.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Birds don't, they really don't give a shit. They don't. But yeah, I was watching a clip because Atlantic came back this week., I was watching a clip because Atlanta came back this week And I was watching a clip someone posted of Minis last read and it was during one of those covid Web reunions and she was just going off on Eva just letting her her fucking have it and she wouldn't shut up And so Annie went mute Yep, and I thought it was so funny. And Nini ended pretty much on mute.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I mean, that wasn't the end, because I remember her slamming the computer down and not coming back. I think that's not the end of the video. I'm fully slamming it. There's like, she slammed it down, but not fully. So then we could see a pad with some handwritten notes on it and maybe a pen. So it was like this weird image that I turned into.
Starting point is 00:06:43 But yeah, so many memories of those Zoom reunions. Crazy. But anyway, this one was really popping up. Oh, pop. By the way, we should also mention, by the way, support our, we're on Apple podcast, pop collections. So go check that out and support all the other podcasts
Starting point is 00:07:01 that are in there. Yes. And thanks for having us on their app. Okay. So anyway, so we that are in there. Yes, and thanks for having us all there, Apple. So anyway, so we now are in the pod, in the reunion and Andy's like, wow, well, when we last saw you, you were in Nashville, Tennessee, and we've magically transported you back,
Starting point is 00:07:17 which is why we're doing this entire reunion on a 10 person bike. And we have Tom Sandevol in the middle of us serving as cocktails. You know, we say how shots of sunset used to close down restaurants. They would shoot in a restaurant and then it would close down the restaurant. And I think Jersey did that to bikes. They did that to those party bikes.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Because Jersey just did a party bike episode. But then there was a huge accident with one this week, and it tipped over, and the driver was drunk. So now those things are gonna be regulated to the hilt. So thanks for ruining party bikes, New Jersey. No, Drew, the driver's name was Drew, so you can say Drew. Thanks Drew, with your stupid stop light game. Like, if you see a stop light drink,
Starting point is 00:08:03 how about if you see a stop light, you stop. How about that? Yeah, how about you don a stop, like drink, how about if you see a stop, like you stop, how about that, sir? Yeah, how about you don't drive things while you're drinking, drink. Okay, these are into Bethany, Frankl. You're aunties, Ben and Ronnie telling you. So yeah, also your set is Nashville because you went to Nashville.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I mean, I kind of get it, but isn't that sad that you can't even have a Jersey set? You've been a Jersey forever. Where's the Jersey? Well, they don't wanna have the water tank that Dolores was posing in the bathing suit in front of last year. Come on.
Starting point is 00:08:31 What about the bridge that says, Trenton makes and the world takes off. I was expecting at least one good Tenefly side this year. I mean, Tenefly was like the second. Serena from Tenefly was another character in the show. Wasn't there like a TJ Maxx on they could put up there and be like, look, it's like we're in Tenefly. Tenefly, Tenefly, Town Commons, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:54 It's also funny that they're being like with all these reunion sets, they're becoming more and more like Disneyland, it used to be they're just like nicely decorated, and now it's like, hey, so in episode three, you went to a nail slot. So that's why you're all sitting in chairs that are giving you massages today. Well today, sad is everybody getting their vagina frozen. Everyone's in a
Starting point is 00:09:15 cryo tank. Just smoke coming out from under their boobs from the crowd. Come out that's frozen. Like, I don't care what you say, Mr. I'll say anything you need. Just let me out of this thing. We've got a mannequin that looks like Yovata Hadid being churned around like ice cream in a crowd tank. Yeah. So, you know he asked like Jackie did you have fun on the bowl and she's like I've done this
Starting point is 00:09:39 this capitated Andy I was almost decapitated on that ball. So funny. So funny. So funny. And he's like, well, this makes me want to go to Nashville just kidding, not at all. Hi, Margaret. Was so surprised to hear that your first language is Hungarian.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Do you have a favorite Hungarian expression? Yes, it's called Dubekadecheca. Was that mean sticking up your ass? That was for you, Joan, and all my Hungarian comedians. And everyone laughs and accept your recess. She's like, I'm rolling my eyes and blinking. Uh-huh. She does not care for Hungarian humor, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:16 So Melissa, did you ever finish your house? Have you been having fun with Joan? He's trying to re-want to like, ah! And, she's like, you know, we don't argue much, Andy, because I'm winning every argument. And Teresa rolls her eyes again. Teresa, give it a warm up. I'm like, we're gonna be here three hours.
Starting point is 00:10:36 You're mad about nothing. Okay. Literally, literally nothing. Hi, Jennifer. Bit of a rough start for the season for you, but you got that chin up. How are you feeling? And she's like, well, I'm in a happy place.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I'm not going to let anything affect my happy place. She goes, so how are you feeling about your new nose and chin? You said nothing's going to affect you, so I'm going to try. Remember when you fucked up your face? So how's it going with your nose and chin? And half they decided they need boob jobs yet. And she's like, well, I ticked my chin out, so this is my old chin. My nose settled on nice limbs. You know, I just can't go outside on Christmas Eve and
Starting point is 00:11:16 because the reindeer asked me to lead in places. But otherwise I'm just playing baby! He's playing baby! He's playing baby! He's playing baby! He's playing baby! Wow, and Jackie, we went on a major journey with you. No, not talking about your eating disorder. We went to your driveway again. You did a journey. The journey to the garage. The journey to the garage. The journey to the garage.
Starting point is 00:11:37 The journey to the garage. The journey to the garage. The journey to the garage. The journey to the garage. The journey to the garage. The journey to the garage. The journey to the garage. The journey to the garage. The journey to the garage. The journey to the garage. The journey to the garage. The journey to the garage. So she's like, yeah, pretty much empty. And he's like, Teresa!
Starting point is 00:11:45 He's like, just skipping Jackie. He's like, Jackie, you're fired. So Teresa, some more value. Loving the reflection of your dress, it's like I'm in the Roxy right now. I'm not. She's wearing little tiny mirrors all over her dress. Yeah, and I just like Andy, name checking the Roxy,
Starting point is 00:12:04 and expect him to reset, I'll have any idea what that was. Huh? Rax? No, what's me or is that, Rax? Huh? I love that Teresa is so violent. She even comes dressed to the reunion as broken glass. You know? And then Jen is dressed like with these weird muppet sleeves. Like she's just, you know how they say in restaurants, if you got time to lean, you got time to clean. And it's like Jen's the leaner, so they're making her wear the counter cleanup shit on her wrists.
Starting point is 00:12:30 It's like some weird muppet feathers with everything on her wrists. She just never found her housekeeper, so she just had her sleeves do the work, you know. It's like, I'm telling you, Sandy. So Andy's like, well, since we stopped for us to be wrapped filming Theresa you and Lily got engaged congratulations. Let me see the ring. Wow. She's like, ha
Starting point is 00:12:53 He picked it out. He picked it out like So you pay congratulations. Yeah, in other words you paid and he's like whoa One week a day one week ago Theresa, you were doing what? I was giving birth and I'm like, baby, a week Theresa. Oh, I was graduating from college and seven days Theresa. I was seven days. They found a pen and they found someone's dick inside me and then I took out the pen and the dick because the pen exploded on the dick.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I got a pen and dick removed, Andy. And he was like, well, I have to say I'm a little worried about you because I was told you're not allowed to scream. Well, I'm not playing on an envy. Blink, blink, blink, blink, blink, blink, blink, blink. And he's like, have you ever met you at a reunion before? She's like, how do I meet me? Because I meet.
Starting point is 00:13:55 So how do I meet? Never mind, never mind, move on. Talk about time, channel, and being. He's like, but you're sending a cross from someone who activates you and annoys you. and I want to see if we can have Conversations today instead of Occacations Yes, Jen it's not a fucking game. Okay. It's not game night. I know
Starting point is 00:14:17 Like a grads you just want this showcase show that She showed that example. I'll take applications for $500, Alex. Jen came just in Jen reunion mode where she, I don't know if she drinks a little first or whatever, because she is like her drinking Jen. Whenever Jen drinks, she gets crazy. So I don't know if she has a couple drinks before, but she's just coming out answering everyone's questions, talking to over everybody. And I was, I don't know, it's like Cruella Deville.
Starting point is 00:14:46 You know she's terrible, but you're so excited every time she's back, you know? I think. Yeah. We are so in sync today, Ronnie, like completely in sync on this, everything going on here. So then Andy is like, hey, Dolores, you got a new man. Are we using the L word?
Starting point is 00:15:02 Linguinny. No, the L word. Week.eny. No, the L word. Week. No Teresa. That's a W word. The L word the Laura's. Lesbian, I mean, I've seen it on showtime, but it is a boy. It's a boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Antie. All right. Lawson's over using is L word the law. Okay. Limitations. I'll take limitations for $500. So Andy tells Dolores that she got such a great response from viewers because she opened up so much on camera.
Starting point is 00:15:33 When Dolores did not open up on camera, what are you talking about? Dolores has always been the same amount of open on camera and I'm fine with it. She's one of the few people on Bravo or reality TV where I'm actually okay with the fact that she doesn't really show her true self because I think like the fun of Dolores
Starting point is 00:15:51 is just knowing like what she says versus how she internally feels. Cause what she usually internally feels is usually what we feel, but she keeps it on the inside and it's like fun to try to like try to see it behind her eyes, you know. Yeah, but where is this Dolores?
Starting point is 00:16:04 It's like Dolores, your mom is in the hospital. She's like, Deloitte, your mom is in the hospital. She's like, I can't, my mom's in the hospital. Like the same thing we saw. It's like, you could have just told her she's not gonna have stair railings for another week, you know what I mean? And I enjoy that amount of closeness. I think we should all be so closed.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Well, I think we all saw me have a breakdown when I brought Frank into the chinchilla room and I said, Frank, I'm stressed. Wow. I mean, those emotions were out of control. So she's like, yeah, listen, me and David, we didn't talk about feelings, which was good. Listen, it's hard for me to talk about my relationship that way. Did you listen because I told you to listen?
Starting point is 00:16:40 That's how I talk. You know, look what are you going to do? He's like, oh my God, you're so open. Well, Jersey lives and dies on loyalty and respects and tacky clothes. And this season was no exception. As Jackie and Dolores proved their own to friendship, is often paved with messy intentions and ends up at a garage somewhere with a bunch of kids playing basketball. So we see clips, one of which is Doloresco Chen.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Why are you crying right now? There's no reason to cry. And Chen, you think I'm weak for crying? Well, I'm not weak for crying. I'm gonna cry. And Jackie is like, can you know what Dolores? Don't call me a this. And we get back in Andy's like,
Starting point is 00:17:26 so you had no fear that Delores was gonna beat the shit out of you Jackie. And she's like, no, I wasn't scared. I don't think she would ever hit me. Yeah, yeah. I'd Delores is like, listen, I have a core anger about myself that I've learned to control. So no one should be scared, even though I have just described myself as having a core anger about myself that I've learned to control. So no one should be scared, even though I have just described myself as having a core anger. It's like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:17:52 You were not my core. I will tell you that. I have a core friend. So, Melissa's like, so Andy says, well, who would you be more afraid of an adark alley deloris or Teresa and March Like Dolores Dolores, okay, I mean you would know Teresa's coming in a dark alley Okay, you can hear her jaw dragging on the ground fucking idiot walking towards you All right, it wouldn't even be a surprise
Starting point is 00:18:19 Teresa's in the dark alley, all right You know what I would be more afraid to run into Dolores only because I know she just wouldn't have any cream on her. Like Dolores, I'm so glad you met me here in this alley. Do you have any cream around you because I have this coffee? I need to do something with it. Like, no, like, this is the worst person I could have run into right now. It's terrible Andy. I'm always like, well, if we're just talking straight up fighting skills, Dolores would totally win. And Teresa so much Matt Matt she so she so much mad. I'm sorry. It's Jersey.
Starting point is 00:18:45 She's so much. Jersey grammar in me today. Yeah. She I mean, you know, I think what Teresa wants to really say is like I've been to prison bitch, but she doesn't want to do that. Yeah. So so then anyway, yeah Dolores is like, but Teresa is so much stronger than me. And Teresa goes, yeah, you never seen me. And so Andy, of course, is like, wow, is so much stronger than me. And Teresa goes, yeah, you never seen me. And so Andy, of course, is like, wow, she certainly pushed me down like a rag doll. Let's roll that beautiful bean footage. And of course, they show that shot again.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man. And Teresa is just laughing at the clip. Like it's so hilarious. And Melissa's like, I don't know what she wants to be the most violent one here. It's not a compliment. She's like, yeah, but like if someone like pits his wall up anyone, you're gonna like go after him.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Right. And they're like, no. Yeah, Margaret's like, you at our age, we better cut that shit out. And Melissa's like, facts. Like, okay, Melissa, relax. Okay, don't make me take take Teresa side early on, okay? Well, agree now Teresa
Starting point is 00:19:49 I agree there shouldn't be any violence so Teresa. I hope you hit March tonight. I mean Jackie I want to talk about the word this because that really Triggered you she's like well, I'm a very accomplished woman, Andy. And so to dismiss me as dismiss me as this, okay? That was really offensive to me. It felt very diminutive. You know what? I was mad at this, okay? And I couldn't understand what Jackie was coming from
Starting point is 00:20:17 because I felt like I was a good friend to Jennifer. And to have this say that about that, I mean, it's like what in which and where and who and when you know what I'm saying Well Jackie I was so happy to see you standing up for Jennifer because obviously that cut close to you What would your husband totally not get getting little jobs at their gym? What have you? She's like, yeah, Andy last year I could have used to friend that would have been nice and Jen's like Oh really? It's what you mean, Andy? What do you mean that she went through something similar?
Starting point is 00:20:48 Just asking, just asking. It wasn't similar because my husband didn't cheat on me, okay? And I just wanted to be a friend to Jen. She was going through a lot. There were lots of flies landing on her chin. It was like a huge landing pad for them. I mean, you've never been to JFK. It was like a huge landing bed for them. I mean you've ever been to give Me to JFK it was like fly JFK over there, but you know I felt so bad for her and I just wanted to be there for her
Starting point is 00:21:10 Yeah, it's basically like Westworld for a robot that had been put out of circulation and the so Poor chin. I know I just wanted to be there and watch a balance, you know a champagne glued on her chin It was so cute how she could do it for those few months. You know, I wanted to be that a supporter. So did Jenna appreciate that Jackie was there for her. And she's like, of course, but then she came over and the first words out of a math were the law and defend. She thinks she is better. And she's like, no, those, that's actually not the truth. Those were not the first words out of my mouth. You started the conversation by telling me that Dolores think Margaret is wrong, but then Margaret and I talk on the phone every night and she just told me that Dolores think that
Starting point is 00:21:51 she's right. So Dolores was telling both of them that she thinks they're right, which is my point. And actually technically the first words I did say was, how you just poke me in the eye with your chin. So let's just be honest. Did you have dead meat sewn onto your face? Was actually the first question. Because there's lies on it. Are you decomposing? Is your chinting composing? We're the first ones I spoke. I said, oh no, Jennifer, you're wearing your Oculus Rift on your face by accident on the machine. You're doing it wrong. And then I realized.
Starting point is 00:22:31 So Dolores is like, all right, here's what happened. All right, welcome to the open with Dolores segment. All right. So after I said, Jen, I understand what you're coming from, where you're coming from, I think you're right. Then I said Margaret that was rough and Margaret said, well, you don't know what Jennifer has been doing. And she goes, which was? I love you answer that question, Mr. Beck. So then, um, and he's like, come on. She told you about her digging. She found you were digging about Evan. Okay, you know, I know this and I barely watch this shit anymore.
Starting point is 00:23:09 As a Jennifer tries to change it. She tries to spin it go and yes, and I would love to know whose idea it was to bring that to the cameras. Was it you? I was a Frank like she's trying to like make it seem like actually maybe Jennifer is the victim here because they were gossiping about her gossiping on camera. Like, what are you talking about? It is very Supreme Court because all this shit happens with the Supreme Court and what are the Republicans mad about that somebody leaked it. I mean, it's such a housewives thing. Oh, really? Well, who told you all because they're going down?
Starting point is 00:23:40 That is the privacy of American justice. It's like, okay, what are we on housewives right now? The point is, is your decision, you fucks. Anyway, I'm sorry. I really can't. I really love the way you're weaving this in. It's leaking. It's leaking into my life.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I can't not be pissed. Yeah, no, I mean, it was, I was extremely, extremely, but, uh, certainly yesterday because of it. They act, no. They act like housewives and it's ridiculous. So then, yeah, you're right, Jennifer is twisting it to make it like, so it's not that I did the thing. It's that you guys leaked that I did the thing, right?
Starting point is 00:24:15 So Dolores is like, well, I had nothing to do with that. Listen, I didn't even know about that scene. Okay, you think I would have done that scene without an alligator-shaped bread? Okay. I didn't know. And when I knew, I understood why it pushed her to do what she did. There, I said it. Yeah, and then so Jennifer's like,
Starting point is 00:24:32 you know what, Laura, she jumped ship. And I said, why did you change your mind? And she said, well, you did a lot of things to Margaret, too, and I'm like, why? I'm like, why? I'm like, what alterations, okay? And so Margaret's like, you know what? Cause you cut me to the core every single time for years
Starting point is 00:24:48 and yes, I said one thing four years ago, which was about 10 years after you were a slut with your boss. That's all I said, one thing. You know who wins this year on Bravo, the word core, okay? I don't think I've ever heard the word core use so much as it is on Bravo. So Andy's like, I don't wanna I've ever heard the word core use so much as it is on Bravo So Andy's like I don't want to really let a gay battle right that's his word That's his word is word for the night
Starting point is 00:25:11 I don't want to be a gay. Yeah, it's time for commercial. It's time for Celebrity beef you never know if you're just gonna end up on TMZ or trending on Twitter or in court I'm that Bellasife. And I'm Sydney Battle, and we're the hosts of Wonder Woman's new podcast, Dis and Tell. Each episode explores a different iconic celebrity view from the buildup, why it happened, and the repercussions. What does our obsession with these feuds say about us?
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Starting point is 00:26:10 Follow this and tell wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. Crapins commercial. Zooloys, we got a lot of comments about you telling Gendestop Cry. People were saying that you seem cold And she's like well listen we had a conversation before the event where I said listen here you stupid little bitch Don't you fucking cry all right because you've got a wonderful life all right and don't make me be the ghost of Christmas Future come over here and kick your fucking ass because I fucking do it. Is that mean you know?
Starting point is 00:26:42 And then she goes into the party and she cries. And I said, Jen, you told me to remind you not to cry. All right, and then it looks like I'm yelling at her for crying. I mean, yeah. You know what, you know what, listen, I told her you walk in there and you hold your head up high, which I know is difficult given the chin.
Starting point is 00:26:58 It's very heavy, but you hold your head up high. Okay, and you walk right in there and you don't cry because you've had a lot of work and you don't know how how water mixes with those plastics. Okay, and you don't cry and you're strong. Okay, and strong people do not cry. That's all I said, Andy. That's what I do. I do love the gems. Just like, yeah, I took off my chin. I didn't like it. Like, is it velcroed on? How is this working for you guys lately? Or are you just having things removable on purpose? Like, is your face zipping at this point? It's like Mr. Potato Head.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Yeah. So, um, yeah, I wouldn't go in so hard if she had still had it off, but since you got it off, I was like, it's on. So Dolores is like, you know what? So, so Jennifer's like, she's like, you know what, that conversation did happen, and I felt like Dolores had a hidden agenda because the more I cried, the more I was going to make her friend look bad. And she wanted to protect her friend.
Starting point is 00:27:51 So because you called me up, she's like, cried, she's like, cry, mixing liquid, she was doing a protective... And which is, by the way, the most cock-a-mamey conspiracy theory, and Delos, like, that's a lie. Wow, Jennifer, you're a fucking liar. Wow, sorry Andy, Andy, to get so emotional. Sorry. And you know what? I'm thinking about four things today, and this is one of them. Okay, Dolores has defended you for a very long time. And then we see a clip of Dolores defending
Starting point is 00:28:16 Jen, and it's so funny. It's like Dolores is my friend, so you get the fuck out of my house. Dolores going, all right, I am all stand here and say it, but going through a family pack for some lipstick. All right. Yeah, I'll say it. So, yeah, so, so, so, Jennifer's like, what did you do that showed that you a friend? I defended you when you weren't defendable, okay?
Starting point is 00:28:45 Well, I am so done tolerating all your backhand compliments. I don't mind her quote unquote, xenophistics her foot in her mouth quote unquote, Jennifer is a piece of shit and I never want to be friends with her anymore quote unquote. I'm sick of these compliments. And saying things like, I don't mind her. What is that about? And she's like, but you do say stupid things, Jen.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Like you put your foot in your mouth. What are you gonna do? And she's like, oh, then you're not my friend then. It's like, no honey, this like, and I'm sorry to call you honey, it's because I have it in my notes from Joe Gorgah. Sorry, I take the honey back, but lady, you can't pull a Teresa.
Starting point is 00:29:23 There's only one Teresa who gets to use that. Like if you don't stand up for everything I do, then you're wrong. There's already one Teresa, you're not her. Okay, you're the lady with 18 bathrooms and a crazy zipper face. Okay, so don't use the Teresa lines. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:29:37 So she's like, what am I supposed to say? Everything you say is right? She's, my friends don't talk about me back. Talk about me that way, Eddie. They don't talk about me. Well Talk about me that way, Eddie. Yeah, talk about me. Well, then I guess I'm not her friend and I'll never be her friend again. I never will be. And he's like, well, did something happen in the last few months? And Dolores goes, nothing so egregious that she could call me not a good friend.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I mean, I've called her. She doesn't call me back. She's been saying something podcast. She says, I'm not a friend of the show. Look, I invited her to see my new railings. Were there new railings? No, but I still extend the invitation She didn't know there were no new railings and drinkers, but you're not a good friend. She's like you're disgusting This is disgusting. You're disgusting. She's oh Disgusting, go ramble about it somewhere. Oh, she's crazy, Ernie. She doesn't sick up for me. Keep your stickin' up.
Starting point is 00:30:28 I don't want friends who stick up like you, sick up. Yeah, Dolores goes, you know what? I apologize to the three of you on those other couches for ever sticking up for her. In my mind, I was like, Jen, you are an idiot because I feel like having Dolores's support is like a gift. It is like, you know, Ryan and I are playing Elden Ring and to me, Dolores' support is some special magic power
Starting point is 00:30:51 you get after you kill a boss that you've spent so long killing because that thing is gonna be with you and it's gonna stay with you till the end of your quest. And if you just like drop it somewhere and it's gone, that you're dumb because that is unwavering support that you just got rid of. Yes, and Andy's gone. That you're dumb because that is unwavering support that you just got rid of. Yes, and Andy's like Teresa, do you think the Laura says a good friend of Jen?
Starting point is 00:31:10 And she's like the only part I'm gonna say about it is when the Laura said don't cry. It's because she wants you, you know, be strong, you know? You gotta be strong. And I get what she's coming from with that part. And she's like, Gabby, you be yelling at me. Stop crying, stop crying.
Starting point is 00:31:27 And then I thought about it. And I didn't want to stop crying. I mean, I like how Jennifer is like, she's so mad during that scene. Like just because some cry doesn't mean I'm not strong. But now when Teresa says, no, don't cry because I want you to be strong. Whenever Teresa says, because Teresa has a cry because I want you to be strong. Whenever Teresa says,
Starting point is 00:31:45 because Teresa has a real fucked up relationship about strength and crying and like what, like being a man and being a woman, et cetera. So like it's just funny that when Teresa says it, you know, Jennifer has no problem with it whatsoever, but when someone else is like, ah, you made fun of me for crying, Ma'am. I was, what's wrong with crying?
Starting point is 00:32:03 I wasn't weak. I was just crying to be an emotional. My God. So Andy brings it back to Dolores. She's like, you know, we got a lot of viewers that say Dolores is lacking in empathy. And she's like, thank you, viewers. And she's like, listen, I was stupid to believe Jennifer
Starting point is 00:32:20 was happy in a marriage all these years, I guess, because that's been the party line. And she's like, oh yeah! She shut the fuck up when I'm talking to you, Jennifer. I was like, that's what you're gonna get now, Jennifer. That's what you're gonna get. You treat the loris like that. You don't wanna see what's gonna happen, okay?
Starting point is 00:32:36 Yeah, and then, Jennifer goes, she goes, you shut the fuck up, mister. And she's like, Moses is like, well, here we go. Here we go. I was happy. I was a happy Jennifer to this one, Margaret Joseph's brought it all up. I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:32:51 You weren't even happy. Okay, let me tell you the Hungarian phrase for you not even happy, but you should have thought just a little bit like that. Okay, that was for you, Hungarian Joan. That means stick your happiness up your cornhole, okay, because it was never true in the first place. And the lures is like, you see, you tell her,
Starting point is 00:33:07 you tell her I'm a bad friend, you tell her she doesn't have a good marriage. Look how easy you fold, Jennifer. Stand true to yourself. Was your marriage good? Was your marriage not good? She's like, my marriage is good. She's like, all right, then fucking act like it.
Starting point is 00:33:20 All right. Don't act like a bitch. I didn't totally understand the lures' logic in this point. Like, if your marriage was and don't act like a bitch. I didn't totally understand Dolores's logic in this point Like if your marriage was good act like it was good because she's saying I think what I'm taking from it is she saying Jennifer if your marriage is good You shouldn't be sobbing 10 years later about it, you know Like I get that you're embarrassed about this But if you're with somebody you work through it you shouldn't be acting this crazy
Starting point is 00:33:43 Like you should be confident enough to say he made a mistake. We got over it, whatever, that Jen's making this huge drama. And so Dolores is saying by Jen sobbing all the time and making this huge drama that she has been lying, she's not been truthful about being totally fine with everything for the past 10 years. Yeah. So Jen is like very well, well some some some are some rise so Summated yeah, I'm made it. Ah, yeah, I'm so made us so then
Starting point is 00:34:17 The summated who leaked it so Jennifer is like I was happy it was into Margaret brought up some Margaret's like I can't ruin a happy marriage the only thing I can ruin is an ice coffee if I don't use Snickers cream. Okay, that's it. That's all I can do. So she's trying to cry, Jennifer. And she's like, I can't control my emotions. Okay. I'm allowed to process. I'm allowed to cry. And I don't give a fuck to show my feelings. It's like, okay, and like, it's a little over the top for the first segment. Okay. Yeah, I like when she goes, I can't control my emotions. And Marker goes, okay, and like over it's a little over the top for the first segment, okay? Yeah, I like when she goes I can't control my emotions and Marker goes well that's a given So and he's like Well, I want to talk about Jackie saying Bill shouldn't shouldn't have his dick and someone else and to be honest Literally no one's cosigning you on this one.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Okay, like no one cosigns this. They're trying to get Jackie on this. I mean, Jackie was supporting Jennifer. So ridiculous. So Andy's like, but Jennifer, when you saw the context of how that was said, and Teresa's like, there was a context, who won it?
Starting point is 00:35:21 Who won it? Oh, context. That's what we use in jail to text each other. It was like, Paige, and you had to read most of them upside down. And he's like, well, Willie came out that she was mad at Bill for hurting you. How did it change how you felt? And Trey just goes, terrible, and terrible.
Starting point is 00:35:43 She just keeps saying terrible over the idiot Jim's like change my feelings you know that I was misconstrued I just didn't know how to pass that I'm a thought about is my kids are gonna hear this that's what I think about anytime you open your mouth Jennifer wow your kids are gonna hear those your kids are suffering right now.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I know. And Teresa is nodding like she didn't try to ruin a marriage last year. And Dolores is like, well, listen, the same thing happened to me. So I hear another man doing it. And you know, it's just gut wrenching to me. That's it. Yeah, it happened to you. So you should be on the woman's side.
Starting point is 00:36:21 And supporting anything said against the man. What the hell? Yeah. Jackie. And Jackie's like, you know, I get how it would sting. And, you know, I understand how it was the Laura's leverage to get back at me. But like, what I don't get is the people who are using the word cut fitness and talk about their cross-chairs like pineapple, clutching their pearls over the word dick.
Starting point is 00:36:42 And I can imagine Theresa be like, ah, this is glass, he's not pearls, what? Oh yeah, but it's okay to see what you had to say. I mean, you could say that, I mean, you could say that, but I can't say pineapples. And she's like, yeah, I think it was okay to say dick. And she's like, oh yeah, you think that's glassing, you think that's glassy. And she's like, but I have kids.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Oh my God, you all have kids. Okay, I had a hamster in grade school that had kids. When it bit me, I still considered putting it down. Okay? And you don't just get a pass to do whatever the fuck you want because you dropped out some human life. Okay, it's part of life. Yeah, if you have kids,
Starting point is 00:37:21 don't be a monster in the first place. You don't have to worry about people having hostile reactions. That's just like here. Yes. So Jackie is like, you know what,, if you have kids, don't be a monster in the first place. You don't have to worry about people having hostile reactions. That's what I'm thinking. So Jackie is like, You know what? I was upset at Bill and I didn't feel like, I didn't like Jennifer shouting the blame for it. And she was blaming herself.
Starting point is 00:37:33 So I used the word dick and Trus goes, And that's very classy. I think you're not classy. I think you're not classy. Says Teresa Judais, the bastion of clasiness on Bravo TV to read you guys. You physically assaulted someone again this season and called them a cop fitness. The Bashing of Clasiness on Bravo Television to re-dude eyes. You physically assaulted someone again this season and called them a cop fit mask. Shut the fuck up, you Shelley Shanker.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Shut up. Okay, no one's asking you. Clash. Yeah, and Jackie's like, great. Well, I think, you know, I think you think they pull with me and I think you don't know me at all. And to be said, the Jackie was like really trying to have a trailer moment. You don't know me at all
Starting point is 00:38:07 Teresa's like I don't know you I don't want to get to know you and like we're tired and you're a follower your followers And she's like yeah cuz my grant wasn't speaking to me anymore and then jacking out of nowhere and Andy's like Oh, see you guys didn't play golf. You were gonna have a golf game Teresa's like yeah, but we had tennis, but then we also have golfing Okay, so you did have fear She goes we went tennis. She literally says we went tennis We went tennis By the way, I think it's so hilarious. The Teresa who always wants loyalty,
Starting point is 00:38:46 like deep, deep entrenched loyalty, dramatic over the top loyalty, is then like, oh my God, Margaret's top talking to me, and then you stop talking to me. It's like, yeah, that's exactly what you would want out of your friends, too. What are you so like, what?
Starting point is 00:39:01 What? Teresa, I know. I'm Jackie Gus. Yeah, because I found that that she was digging on my husband She was the one the whole time tried to dig on my husband and Teresa's like yeah About what you said about my daughter Teresa pulls out all the greatest hits on this really does and Jackie's like I did not say anything about your daughter Okay, I used Eminology. And she's like, you never said Emin't you still understand that spreading a rumor about
Starting point is 00:39:45 Evan cheating was wrong to call Margaret for bringing up Bill's affair in light of what you did since hypocritical and incredibly unsulfoware. Teresa's like, Blink, Blink, Blink, Blink, Blink, Blink, Blink, Blink, Blink, Blink, Blink, I apologize, I'm like, I apologize, I'm ready. And Jack, he's like, yeah,, but then afterwards you were digging and she goes Poole that bitch I went Dennis I went Dennis
Starting point is 00:40:11 Teresa who's just saying someone's not classy is like poop at bitch And she's like please don't call me a bitch Teresa. She's I just did what are you gonna do about it? She's like, you know what? Be a little classier and speak to me like a woman. She goes, I want you to be a bitch. You know, the show was airing in Teresa realized this is now Jen trying to like now like exonerate Teresa. Jen who has spent the season saying, I was just curious. I was just, I just want to take a peaky week into the gossip box.
Starting point is 00:40:43 That's all. So now she says like you know The show was here and Teresa realized that the Gia comment was not presented in a way that was analogy that was so clear So she was very angry She was very Teresa came back a season later and mid season got upset the analogy wasn't presented properly I mean come on And then the season later and mid season got upset. The analogy wasn't presented properly. I mean, come on. Well, because she was watching it on television, okay?
Starting point is 00:41:09 And so she was very angry and she was like, I don't win enough for someone in 10 of life who would know if this room was true, set to appease her. I was like, actually, I think I know one lady, her name is my piscirino, and I would be willing to ask her. And when there was nothing to find,
Starting point is 00:41:23 I was like, she's like, then we didn't go anywhere. We didn't go anywhere. Like, oh, everything's fine. So now the story is not that Jennifer was curious. It's that like Theresa was so angry she was just trying to like be a good friend and like just ask one person. Right. So now they were digging, but they're still not at fault for digging.
Starting point is 00:41:43 So Jackie's like, okay, but then if you had found something, what were you gonna do with it? Because you do a lot of crying about your kids and turns like, I wouldn't have set it on camera! Yes, you fucking would have, you would have given it to Theresa to say on camera. It was 100% of it on camera. And so, Marge's like, you know what? Someone has suffered an infidelity. Like, why would you go looking for that? Okay, why would you do that? I mean, as if Marguer's gonna get a proper answer for this. Like, Marguer's like, oh, wait a second.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Here's some logic, this will finally work. Some logic on Theresa and Jennifer, of course, no. And Theresa's like, it didn't happen to drop it. And she's like, look at you, Marge, you went digging. And Theresa's like, yeah, yeah, you dig digging you dig You went digging so then Jennifer's like Yeah, so Mark was like I didn't dig up any I didn't do any digging She's you did a lot of digging. You know, I didn't have to do any digging it was everywhere
Starting point is 00:42:44 Okay, it's like Snickers creamer at the AMB Everywhere 499 okay for sales everywhere So Jackie's like Jen you ruin all your friendships because you're brought blindingly loyal to one person and just kidding They're asked and she's like ah and you're her puppet your marches puppet you get her ass She's so into're sent to follow her. I love that Jen's proving that she's not a follower by repeating Teresa's exact words. Like, exactly. Girl, you've got Teresa's fucking elbows sticking out of your cornhole right now.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Give me a fucking break. Yeah. You know, how dare you call me insecure when I'm one of the strongest fucking women that you'll ever meet, the things that I've been through in my life, you have no idea. Do you know how hard it was to take an Amazon box and put it delicately in front of a garage door? Very difficult.
Starting point is 00:43:37 And chance like, yeah, Brian, you kidding me. And Teresa's like, oh yeah strong you cried all season. All right. Yeah, and again, now they are weaponizing crying when before it was like so wrong to do so for Jen. And so Jackie's like, you cried all season Teresa. Teresa, because I did, I didn't. Which I think is actually like a, I really like Jackie's method there because Teresa really
Starting point is 00:44:02 didn't cry all season. But like as long as Teresa's gonna gaslight people Why not you know like why not do that to Teresa? I think it's like really fun to see her just be like huh? Huh? I She didn't cry all season, but she bitched all season right like she yeah She crushed she basically cried about everybody using all this stuff against her and coming for her man and this and that And but she didn't technically cry.
Starting point is 00:44:25 And she's like, ah, no I didn't. And Jack is like, keep bitching about it person asking you a question all season long. She's, ah, ah, ah, no I didn't. Well, you did do that part, you know? Yeah, you literally did it. So Andy's like, Dolores, so where do you sort of things stand with you and Jackie now? Very good. We're fine. Look, look at the joy on my face. It's like, I see, so where do you throw the things down with you and Jackie now? Very good. We're fine.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Look, look at the joy on my face. It's like, I see her and I want to cry. Look at me. I'm just losing my composure right now. She's so good. And Jen's like, nah, I'm done with giving her a pass. I'm done with it. It's like, wow, you're stabbing one of your only allies on the show in the back.
Starting point is 00:45:02 You idiot, Jen. I love it. I'm like, idiot. Jen. I love it. I'm like idiot. And it's Dolores. Everyone on this show agrees with. One thing everybody agrees with is that you do not want Dolores after you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:16 You just even Theresa doesn't want Dolores after her, you know? So Dolores is like, wow, you are actually crazy. I'm disgusted. I'm disgusted. I'm disgusted, Auntie. Well, the night is young, so maybe YouTube will make some headway. Nah, because we already had to go on a state parkway. What else do we need?
Starting point is 00:45:37 Headway, not highway, Theresa. Okay. Well, it smells like ax, body, spray, pepperoni, and apple teemies So I'm guessing the guys here in the dressing room. They'll be out soon Welcome back Teresa. I wanted to talk about the love bubble something happy in light. Oh really You're gonna you're gonna talk about Louis something light and happy happy Yeah, okay, yeah exactly. It's a a topic that's really brought a lot of levity
Starting point is 00:46:05 to the season amongst the women. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap and commercial. So Andy's like, he's basically like, so you were hesitant about bringing him on until it was real, do you regret it? I mean, because the good news is you weathered it, huh? She's like, well, you have to ask him that, because it's his life and like, you know, my great-we're
Starting point is 00:46:30 strong to chest-disease him, you know? And I wasn't chest-dising. I was asking questions. I was like a young Diane Sawyer in Pigtails. Okay, that's what I was basically doing. Okay, Teresa. But congratulations on the new word. Okay, because that was amazing. And Teresa is like, you know what I'm talking about. He's telling love what Teresa drew dice. And I love that Teresa is back to due dice because sometimes she'll go with the due to chase, but she forgets that she's trying to change her name. And Marge goes, yeah, Teresa, due dice, a public figure.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And he didn't know that this comes along with it. So thanks to my graph for trying to hurt him. I rang. You know what? I didn't know that this comes along with it. So thanks to my griffa trying to hurt him. No, I didn't hurt him. Okay. Well, even before she uttered a word about him, there were articles about him that I brought up. At the last reunion, having nothing to do with Margaret. So it was gonna be there whether she's bringing it up or not, which of course, Teresa's like, like think, like that. Just that totally does not like resonate with her whatsoever. And she's like, yeah, but then like every time a group of that came up, then something
Starting point is 00:47:33 no came out, you know, and then there's another event and then something no came out. And then another event and then something no came out. So you do the mass, all right? Oh, God. So you do the math, all right? Oh God. So that's by the way also how Theresa got through like middle and high school. You do the math. I'm not going to do this. She's not going to do a problem sets.
Starting point is 00:47:57 So I'm like, yeah, I didn't do. I didn't have anything to do with this. Okay. And Andy's like, and you still think that Louis the one, and Teresa goes, yeah, because we never had a fine knockout wood. And she knocks on her own head. It's like, oh no.
Starting point is 00:48:15 That's like, nothing you said has been that accurate. Meanwhile, Joe Gorgas knocking on his dick, hey, knockout wood. So there he is. There he is. Knock on thea is knocking on his dick. Hey, knock I would. So there he is. There he is. Knock on the L. So she's like, yeah, you know, we come here, okay?
Starting point is 00:48:31 I'm like, he don't yell, he don't curse, you know? And he's like, yeah, I mean, that's like the opposite of Joe, you guys. It's like the caveman and Oprah. What the hell? What the fuck did Oprah Winfrey do to you? How could you do that? Oprah Winfrey's even come on your show.
Starting point is 00:48:49 How could you do that? Like, Ed, but it's also like, where, how why is that, like, the other end? Like, why does it go from caveman to Oprah? I feel like that somehow gets, like, that's the, what? How do you do that? So Andy's like, does it make you think differently about your relationship with Joe and she goes, yeah, now I see the difference because I'm in love with Louis.
Starting point is 00:49:10 And like when I was married, like I wasn't in love. Like I think that like, you know, I just got dumped by my brother and I was like living at home and like it was hard. So like, don't get me wrong. I thought I was in love, but then like, you know what came out of it Daughters daughters. I got daughters. So that's good Wow, well doesn't make you think that like you put up with a lot of shit that you didn't realize we even putting up with like Dolores actually even compared you to a dog from the shelter Wait, hold on one second Andy. I want to respond to this. Okay, first of all, I love dogs. I'm not calling her a dog.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I'm just saying she has dog like qualities and sometimes looks and acts like a dog. That's all. But you know what, Teresa's been through so much and you know what, he's kind to her. Like, listen, a dog that I've taken out of the shelter, they would die for me. They would die for me.
Starting point is 00:50:04 And that's what she is. She's like a dog, a meangy dog that you've taken out of the shelter, they would die from me. They would die from me. And that's what she is. She's like a dog, a meangy dog that you found in a shelter that knows how to make tomato sauce. That's all I'm saying. Listen, some of those dogs, they didn't want to die from me. But you know, I accidentally threw a bowl down the hallway, not remembering there were no railings on the stairs. You know what I'm saying? We call those bananas fosters. All right.
Starting point is 00:50:24 They just, they're going now. But you know what I'm saying, Andy. And Teresa's like, you know what? My kids, my daughters, they love Louis and like it was an adjustment, living with him though, because like they'd like to walk through the house naked. It's like, oh, there's like some creepiness there, you know? Yeah, I was like, we know Louie's like,
Starting point is 00:50:47 just feel comfortable. I just want you to be like, you're at home. I'm like, we should probably not keep that. That should have been edited out. We don't need purve showing up at Teresa's house. So Andy's like, yeah, there's, she's like, and there's so many people in my bushes lately. It's like, no, no, no, don't say that on TV.
Starting point is 00:51:03 So Andy's like, well, you said on watch, Happens live, which I host, that you're not planning on getting a prenup and people are pretty upset. Bethany Frankel, who is totally, totally over being a real housewife. She doesn't even pay attention anymore. Just tweeted, oh my god, I may jump to a phone if like, Tweetie doesn't sign a prenup. Like, literally, like, mention it all, like mention it all, including a prenup. Oh my god. I mean, everyone's up and on,
Starting point is 00:51:25 we've done polls, we've done viewer surveys, we've done commercials about it. And Trees is like, ah, ah, I ain't gonna do a despotonged Louis and I ain't. And he's like, but you haven't made the decision. She's like, it's all business, all right. Cause like Joe wanted me to sign a prenup
Starting point is 00:51:44 and I almost left. Cause I was like, you know what,, all right? Cause like Joe wanted me to sign the prenup and I almost left. Cause I was like, you know what? You get married? That's for life! Teresa, listen to yourself. The husband who got you thrown in jail and left you fucking penniless and then you had to pay all of his restitution? Yeah, that's why you should get a prenup. You fucking don't know, bird! Like how long are we supposed to sit here without losing our shit? I know, and he's like, well I'm trying to protect you and she goes well
Starting point is 00:52:07 He had more and me don't so you know he has more me and he's like hmm things happen He doesn't have more than you know have this guy's really got her and then yeah I love that right after this that the rumors were like and Louise broke, you know, of course he's bankrupt You know fucking Teresa. So he's like, listen, I'm your friend, and I'm saying as your friend, I would love if you would consider a prenup, that's all, okay? You don't have to be obsessed.
Starting point is 00:52:37 You're like, all right, you're my man, so I'm not gonna ban a jewel about it. That's exactly what it is. It's like, oh, if a man says that it's okay. So Andy's like, okay, well, you had an engagement party. Which of the ladies were there? I'm gonna ask this question, though, no. Exactly who was not there, unless there's,
Starting point is 00:52:52 there's all up. So it was only Jennifer and Melissa at the engagement party. And Andy's like, well, what about Dolores? And Trey goes, oh, I, I, I, I, I, we went tennis. I, Dolores, Dolores. I, I, we went tennis. Thors, Thors is like, you know what? I didn't know about the party. Like, I would have liked to have been there, but I wasn't mad.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Look, look at me not being mad. I'm clearly not mad at all. I'm not raging. My core anger is not activated on inside of me. I'm not mad and all I care about is her. But, you know, I felt bad when people asked me, you know, when I saw a call to recent, I said, hey, was I not invited because you're mad at me?
Starting point is 00:53:29 And she said, no, we're only inviting couples that we go out with. And she gave me some other bullshit logic. And I'm gonna stop talking right now because my core anger is starting to uncore itself. Yeah, I'm like, we only go out with people that hang out with, so. And to l Dolores is like and that was enough for me. I mean that is bullshit. Well, you won't invite the single person. Well, you won't invite I mean that's that's gross
Starting point is 00:53:55 And we all know that it's not true and that Teresa didn't invite Dolores because Dolores wasn't a hundred percent on her side Every second of the season, you know wasn't 100% on her side every second of the season, you know. No, it was, it was to me, so tacky and so rude. And I know there are Teresa fans out there because we, we hear from everyone that I'm like, you guys, I'm, I'm with this podcast, you guys are just the Teresa haters. I'm like, well, bye. But, um, but there are people who like love Teresa. And, uh, you know, and I'm sure you could always make an argument that's very
Starting point is 00:54:22 easy to make an argument against Melissa Gorka because she's, she does a lot of stuff that makes you know Melissa sex you I'm team Teresa when it comes to Melissa But like but that but what I'm saying is I think but this is a situation where it's just it's so obvious like there's just It's so tacky and hurtful and rude that she wouldn't invite to Laura's and then she says it's only because it's couples only Which is also obnoxious and so disgusting It also sounds like such a terrible message to her daughters in terms of what they should be valuing. I'm just like, I'm like, you are a piece of shit. I'm sorry, you really are.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Well, I think it's also her TV people because we know from this show, and Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip, that she's just like, everybody's always coming for on TV and they're not all real friends. And I think she feels like she brought Dolores on this show for So for Dolores to not show her 100% loyalty and go after people all the time, you know, is it be trail? So yeah, whatever she but but if that's how she feels then she should say that but instead she says you know what like I've been asking her to go out on a double day and then like nothing nothing happened. And Dolores is like, well, you asked me when I was with David and David didn't want to double date anybody. He didn't even single date me.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I mean, he zero dates. And Marjor's like, oh, so you can only be friends with couples. I mean, Dolores has been your bride to die for bed. And Dolores is like, I'm okay with it. I mean, whatever. And Dolores is like, yeah, so don't try and cause a problem, Margaret bitch And because but I'm the one who brought it up. She goes, oh, all right, you know, if that's how Louis and her wanted that party That's fine. You know, my concern is that she enjoys her day fucking bitch fucking fucking
Starting point is 00:56:05 godfitness and that was rusted again. So then Andy brings up that on watch or happens live. Teresa was asked who's going to be her bridesmaid and she said not Melissa and Melissa is Melissa. Are you hurt? And she's like, no, at first I just thought it would be your daughters. But then I heard it was all of your new sisters. No, it was all your new sister-in-law's. Sorry, you got to get the Jersey grammar down properly. Your sister-in-law's. Sister-in-law's.
Starting point is 00:56:34 So Teresa's like, yeah, well, at this point Teresa's hands, she's doing that weird open palm. You can't really see it very well on Crap Son Demandix, it was a small window, but she does this thing with her open palms, but her fingers are out and her palms are up. And she's like, no, what? I speak to them all the time. So like, look what you're saying and look what I'm saying. Okay, that's what I'm saying. And Melissa's like, why do you always have to,
Starting point is 00:56:56 we're not talking about seats right now. Like why are you always coming out, so negative, say, I'm not coming out negative. You're a cut fitness. I'm not, that's not negative. I don't know what you're saying. And she's like, yeah, you are. Because you said, look, we're you're sitting.
Starting point is 00:57:09 I mean, Teresa, whatever. You have whoever you want in your wedding. And I think Teresa is saying they're on opposite sides of the couch, right? She's like, if we got along, we'd be on the same side of the couch. Because some people are like, Teresa is sitting in first chair and she's saying, this is sitting in the last chair.
Starting point is 00:57:23 But I don't think I think she's talking about the sides of the couch. Yeah, the sides, I think that's what it is. So she's like, listen, this is the thing, honey, honey, we're not close. You are my sister and was, but we're not close, honey. And Melissa's like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:57:39 my heart right now is like literally beating. Oh my God, my heart is literally beating you guys. Really Melissa? Well congratulations on being alive for the reunion. Okay. That's a lot of things. That's a lot of things. I mean, I'm actually on Melissa's side for this
Starting point is 00:57:54 but the way, but she does her best to push us all away because she's so, she's not upfront because she says like, no, it's fine. I was happy. You were never happy about that. You were pissed off this entire time. So now she starts doing those things. Like, we have a lot of memories.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Like, even if we're not close, when you're away, I was the one helping your mother pick up your girls and bring them to dance. You remember that, don't you? I'm like, she was literally in jail. There's no way that she could remember that. And that's also disgusting. Like, I was helping your mother.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Yeah, that was your mother too. You fucking asshole. it's your family. She starts using all this dead parent stuff at Teresa, which is just gross on molasses. And especially considering all the rumors with why Teresa's parents had to live with Teresa in the first place, you know, that Joe took out the mortgage on the parent's house and didn't pay it, and then the parent's house got foreclosed on. And that's all rumors, by the way, but that's been the rumor for years on this show
Starting point is 00:58:48 that that was the rift between the family. So it's interesting because there's so much stuff that Teresa has not thrown in their face, right? Where I'm like, well, maybe that is kind of Teresa's loyalty, right? She doesn't bring up all these gorgas rumors, or say like, yeah, well, the stuff about you being a crook was because you're using people's Instagram posts and aren't yours. You got mom and dad kicked out of their house. Oh, literally, you did all
Starting point is 00:59:13 this stuff. So maybe that is Teresa's loyalty. I mean, that's, it's a little bit of a warped logic because it's like, it's rumors that we don't know are true. And the fact that we don't have verification on them makes Theresa more loyal. So it's a little, sure, that's true. It's a little fucked up. That is a lot of shit like reading fame or a ghost that really does. It's an iron to something that might be true. And the fact that Theresa is holding, is keeping that secret. Therefore, we know that the, we know that the Instagram photos, it's a very least, is
Starting point is 00:59:41 something that happened because I remember talking about what that when it happened, when Joe was posting Instagram saying, like, this is the before and after. And it's like, no, that's somebody else's home. Like the homeowner, Gamerana was like, he didn't do any of this stuff, you know? I mean, I think it is, I think it's like tacky also that Melissa is bringing up this stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:59 It's almost like she's like reading her resume of like these things. Like, I was holding her hand when you're, when you're, when you're, when you're, when you're, when your father was dying in the hospital. And so it is tacky, but at the same time, it also shows that like she what she is there and she is a part of the family
Starting point is 01:00:16 and she's just not some stranger. And like ultimately, I think it's tacky as fuck that she is not having Melissa as her, as her, as her bridesmaid, especially given the double standard that Teresa has. And as much as Teresa says, she wouldn't care. Teresa would be a monster if she were not chosen to be a bridesmaid. So like, I disagree.
Starting point is 01:00:36 I disagree. I don't think she owes Melissa anything. She hates Melissa. Melissa hates her. Melissa does nothing but undermine Teresa. Teresa does nothing but undermine Melissa they hate each other I would be mad about the Dolores thing I think Teresa's a dick for the Dolores thing but Melissa the way Melissa even got on the show is still disgusting and I don't
Starting point is 01:00:57 think that Teresa owes Melissa anything I think well then if that case that she shouldn't be making but in that case she should not be making requests of Melissa Gorga nonstop like you should be doing. Like, you should be doing this for me. You should be doing this for me, family, family, family. If you hate Melissa Gorga, then yeah, you're not entitled to have her your bridesmaid, but don't preach all this about family.
Starting point is 01:01:15 You should have my back. You should be doing this. You should be doing this. You should be doing this. When Melissa has, you know, she has held her tongue, not very well, like she's like fake
Starting point is 01:01:25 hold her tongue, but the truth is, like, you can't be preaching all that stuff. And then you don't even have her as your bride's maid. Like, I'm sorry. I think ultimately I think Teresa is way in the wrong. Melissa may be a piece of work, but Teresa is wrong in this situation. Yeah, I don't think so, but I love hearing them argue because they're not either one of them's right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:01:42 Like, they're both wrong. Like Melissa's argument here is totally wrong. But yeah, I mean, Teresa is an asshole. And the demanding loyalty from everybody when she never shows anybody, I also agree with that. But the thing, the truth can't be upfront about it. She even says right here, she's like, she's like, well, you know, like,
Starting point is 01:02:00 she's like, you know, while we haven't double dated, she goes through the double dating. She goes like, bulls**t like that. We haven't double dated, she's like, you know, while we haven't double dated, she goes through the double dating. Yeah, she goes like, bullshitting. And like, bullshitting. We haven't double dated, ask my brother, ask my brother, we haven't double dated. Yeah, that's her, that's her. But then, bullshitting.
Starting point is 01:02:13 But like, also, Melissa though is, she, Melissa is spewing bullshit too. Like, don't get me wrong, because she's like, please don't take this away from me. We have history, like, we have history you and me, and I love you very much, and I'm happy for you. Be sure to remember what family is. Like don't take away this history from me. I'm like, you're saying I put in this work.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I did all the things I'm supposed to do, and now you're not giving me a prize at the end of it. That's what you're saying there. Yeah, but all that stuff that you did was not for Teresa. It was for Joe, who was your husband. So that, you don't get to use that stuff against Teresa. You were doing basic wife duties, you know, for your husband, not for Teresa. So anyway, don't worry, we get to talk about this for another three weeks because it's never
Starting point is 01:02:56 going to fucking end. It's the same thing over and over. So then, um, Melissa's like, let's just be honest because Teresa says, I'm not close to you. And that's, that's the truth. And Melissa's like, let's just be honest. Cause Teresa says, I'm not close to you. And that's, that's the truth. And Melissa's like, yeah, let's just be honest and it's not pretending we have a relationship. And she goes, yeah, we don't have a relationship. And she's like, well, I think if I can say something, I think that she feels that you're closer with Margaret than you are to her.
Starting point is 01:03:21 And Margaret's like, oh, Jesus, what do I have to do with it? We're not even to the snicker segment. And I've got to deal with this oh, Jesus, what do I have to do with it? We're not even to the snicker segment. And I've got to deal with this crap. Like, why does it have to do with me? Yeah. And it's like, all right, all right, all right. And Drew's is like, no, I didn't want to be a big thing. It's like, my bet.
Starting point is 01:03:35 This is my day. It's about Louis and I. I'm most like, it's about Louis. It's about you. It's about Louis family. Beautiful. Because that's the other, by the way, that's another component of it because it's like, it's also these new people,
Starting point is 01:03:48 like Adam no, like Louis sisters that suddenly get to be Brian's maid. It's like that adds, like that is also like what makes it a little fucked up. And that's why I know Melissa's like, you know, when it wasn't the sisters, it was one thing where she probably still was pissed. But when's the sisters, that's actually just like
Starting point is 01:04:04 past of aggressive at that point Well, you hate her she hates you and she hates all of her family I mean Teresa's loyalty thing that cracks me up is that she doesn't speak to anybody and she pretends They're all dead like she tells Joe you're all I've got no you've got Kathy you've got Rosie You've got all you've got a huge family, but you don't speak to anybody because you have no fucking loyalty, you know, and probably they don't have any either, you know, and she just keeps using the word loyalty loyalty. But also I think this is her doover. I think she's like, listen, I've got a new husband.
Starting point is 01:04:37 He's got sister in laws that I can actually have good relationships with. And she's not gonna, she's not gonna, you know, mix the dirty fish water in with. No, she won't. I don't know why. I think you're right. I don't know why I'm picking up fish water. She doesn't want to mix the waters. Yeah. So then we find out that it goes even deeper than this because Melissa is like, so I'm assuming she's like, I'm assuming that's why I was sat at the other table at the
Starting point is 01:05:03 engagement party. You had you and Louise family at a table, and then me and your brother and your nieces and nephews were at a friend table. So I was like, oh, now we got table drama, because you know, this is the shit that tears families apart. Yes, table drama.
Starting point is 01:05:17 And Teresa's like, uh-uh, wait. And Gloritz goes, listen, when I get married, I'm a loping, that's it. And Teresa says, you see how she tries to throw me under the bus, because this does what and throw me under the bus like that. Oh, but I thought you weren't close. I thought you weren't close. Yeah. Five seconds ago, you weren't close. If you have your own brother seated elsewhere,
Starting point is 01:05:39 but you have all these other people that are new into your life at your table, like that's not that is not Melissa throwing you under the bus. That is Melissa, you know, that's Melissa be like, this is fucked up, you know? Yeah, and so Teresa's like, yeah, but like, I went up to her at the party and I was like, I didn't do the seeding arrangements, I'm right.
Starting point is 01:05:59 And Marge, Margaret's like, oh please, you look like I've been seeding your arrangements for an engagement party. I've had an entire episode about it. I'm like, do I have to show you people how to do everything? I'm just like, ah, I didn't. And Margaret, don't you tell me what I did, all right? Yeah, most of us, there's two tables.
Starting point is 01:06:15 You didn't know that your only brother wasn't going to be at your table. And Margaret's like, you know what? If you saw him sitting at another table, fuck you stupid bitch, you think you know everything. So shut the fuck up, Margaret. I was like, it's just the classy one. I think we got the classy one everybody. You have fit in me of the class.
Starting point is 01:06:35 So Margaret's like, why so upset? She goes, fuck you stupid bitch. Shut the fuck up. Don't think how I feel. She is. And Margaret's like, well, Jennifer can say how you feel. You're fine with that. She goes, yeah, but she's my friend. And Marge says, yeah, and well, Melissa's, and Margaret's like, well, Jennifer can say how you feel. You're fine with that. She goes, yeah, but she's my friend.
Starting point is 01:06:47 And Marge says, yeah, and well, Melissa's my friend. She goes, yeah, you got her, Fred, you see that? You see that Melissa? You got her, Fred, that's my point. I can't with the logic. I really, I really couldn't, I can't. It's true. It's a logic.
Starting point is 01:07:01 I mean, it's like, it's just one of the most frustrating things in the world. And then we sit here, we're not even halfway through this probably, and we're at an hour five in this recap. Just my head's about to pop off, and then I have to remind myself, this is fucking Teresa. It's been the same bullshit for years, over a decade of this. Yeah. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap and commercial. Well, I'm just I'm sick of people like Teresa who have a warped view of like someone who is not and not not someone who is just like an idiot with a warped view of reality who then just like says this is the way it is and then everyone else and then we wind up ultimately looking at the
Starting point is 01:07:44 people on the other couch and be, but they are kind of crazy. They are kind of, it's like, no, Theresa is the one who's really fucked up here. I'm sorry, she is the one who's fucked. And so, to reach out, I'm getting, I'm getting, I'm getting. She is, but you know, then you've got Joe, Joe Gorgah, who's also a complete loony tune with anger issues, who makes no sense,
Starting point is 01:08:02 and makes himself the victim in every situation. And then you've got Melissa, like over there, like talking to Danielle, sending Danielle Facebook messages, trying to start shit to get herself on the show. It's like none of these people are really worth rooting for, but it's so fun rooting against them, and they're also rooting against a ball
Starting point is 01:08:20 that is just gonna be 10 hours of it. I just hate that, I just hate that we, I feel like we generally, not you and I, but just in general, people who watch this, people just all of us, like in this world, will conflate being headstrong, with being strong, and that's, they're two totally different things. I think that's what happens with Teresa,
Starting point is 01:08:37 because look, Jackie, Jackie, the rumors Jackie's getting fired, and it's like, you know, ultimately, Teresa continues to ascend as an idiot. I'm not saying Teresa should be fired, by the way, because of course she needs to be on this show. But like that's ultimately the sad part of all this in life is that someone like Teresa will continue to rise and ascend and do well. And the other people will ultimately be like, well, Jacky's nice, but she does cry a lot after all. Like, like things that Teresa says, we are all like, oh, fuck Teresa,
Starting point is 01:09:05 but that stuff sort of stays with us, and I think that's so fucked up. Yeah, this fucked up. But you know, it's like you will. Like how much more you will get the grease, that's just how it is. So, and it's a TV show. We wanna watch a crazy person,
Starting point is 01:09:16 not the person with real emotions. We're like, oh my God, you have real emotions. Bye now, enjoy the bus ride. So, Melissa's like, okay. so then it gets really good, right? So then, Melissa goes, by the way, you were my bridesmaid and she goes, yeah, I'm up before I gave birth. If she was a good sister in law, she would have been like, why don't I wait till after you got a baby so we can really party it hard.
Starting point is 01:09:40 And she's like, okay, so I should have changed my wedding for your pregnancy. Can you believe that? I mean, first of all, Teresa bring up another grudge from 25 years ago, but like now she's supposed to move her wedding because of that. And you know that like, what would have happened next? Is she moved the wedding and I've been like, she had a wedding right when I had a newborn and I was so tired and I was breath-feated. Like why would she do that?
Starting point is 01:10:03 Like, you know, there would never have been a good time for Teresa. Well, Teresa just kept having babies. It's not like she ever stopped having, like she had four right in a row, you know, it was like a baby marathon. So the whole thing is ridiculous and hilarious because it's so Teresa to be like, how dare you have a wedding when I'm, yeah, and then she goes, she goes, good sister-in-laws wait. you have a wedding when I'm yeah, and then she goes she goes good sister in laws wait. I said all these new rules about what good sister in laws do that are very convenient laws for her.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Oh good. So Andy's like so Jennifer because Andy's like what the fuck like he's cracking up because this is ridiculous. And so he's like so Jennifer, what do you think about that? And Jennifer's like, Listen, I love the logistics of it. And he's like, all right, let's bring out Joe Gorgah. We need a new brand of crazy out here. Let's bring in Joe. It's like, hey, Joe, well, guess what? I feel like you guys, you and your sets are about a pretty good relationship the past few years. So let's destroy that a little bit more. Hey, you missed a conversation about Melissa not being a bridesmaid.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Is this been a topic in your home, huh? And Joe's like, yeah, of course, like, you know, think about it, huh? Think about it. You think you were wrong, all right? You were wrong, that's it. And she's like, I would not. He's like, yeah, you know, because I can't say boo about Louis or what, what do you gonna do?
Starting point is 01:11:23 You're gonna need my heart out, all right? Theresa goes, vice versa. So then Joe's like, listen, if I got married and I said everyone else is in it, but in the wedding, but Louis, I wouldn't, I would disrespect you, not Louis, you, because you're my only sister. You're the first one I had sex with, okay?
Starting point is 01:11:44 And I would never do that to you. Yeah, and Andy's like, well, are you in the wedding? And he said, I was asked. And she goes, Yeah, he won't do what cause my listening, man. And you know what, that's fine. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:11:56 And Louis loves Joe, you know? Like, he calls Joe. But my brother doesn't even give Louis the time of the day. All right, and minute's all you don't. Yeah, Joe's like, yeah, well, that's because you only call to talk about the show. And also, honestly, how many times can we answer the phone in here? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH brother, she like, but does he call me? I mean, it's just the same thing year after year with these people, right? And so Melissa's like, no, and I'm sick of the false scenarios, okay?
Starting point is 01:12:30 Family, family, I love family, bullshit. Nobody believes you anymore, Teresa, you know? And she goes, see, this is what happened. The wife controls everything, I'm right. Like, you thought only family I got, so please keep the peace, please. Okay. I like, put it all in Melissa in Melissa like this is all Melissa's fault like it's just it's so Oh god, it's infuriating so Melissa's like I am I am keeping the piece did I say anything when you sat
Starting point is 01:12:55 I said a different table at the occasion party I said nothing until right now when we had a national audience. I'm keeping the piece and Trees is like but but I explained it, Joe, why? And he goes, yeah, but she said, oh, I gotta take her side because you're married. So that's what you gotta do. Yeah, that's actually, she won't let Joe, she won't let Joe. It's like, it's like, Joe is a, as a host of this show. It's like, he's a co-host of the show. He cannot finish a fucking sentence, okay? It's like, he's a water crowdhost of the show. He cannot finish a fucking sentence, okay? What? He's like, he's a water crowd. He cannot get one fucking thing out.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Yeah, and it's funny just about how her rules of loyalty just never apply with anyone else. Now she's like shocked that a boyfriend would, like, oh, that a husband would support his wife. When that's exactly what you'd want out of Louis, but now it's like, oh, it's fine, support your wife. Like it's some crazy notion. But now while we're talking about new songs from Teresa Judaisu-Dichy, her next greatest hit, I'm old school, I want to be close. And because of history, she came on the show and became with Caroline Jackie.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Caroline and Jackie. It's like the greatest dance. Here we come. Yes. Now she's out with the old, I'm old school and you became friends with Caroline and Jackie. Yeah. That's her whole. It's so she's like, don't forget because now we're now we're moving on to season three of grudges. And Melissa's like, well, okay, fine.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Like do you want me to talk about Kim D and Jan and everyone you made friends with as the entries? Yeah, but that was the show. You always try to throw a die because that made it. Oh, my brain is actively melting, Ronnie. So, Joe, full of this whole, I'm not mad at you. I'm just disappointed. And I said, I'm disappointed because I watched this whole I'm not mad at you. I'm just disappointed and said I
Starting point is 01:14:45 Disappoint it because I watch this whole season again, and that's why I mean my decision again and Just like can I say something? They're like oh god fucking Jan Sorry So you know tree spin saying how love she and there we are. And the heart about what Margaret did to him. And for what I can gather, Trisha disappointed in you Melissa that you've chosen Margaret instead of her. And Melissa's like, oh God, all roads lead back to Melissa.
Starting point is 01:15:19 And Trisha says, Yeah, you should have told Margaret, talk to him one more time. I'm not gonna speak to you no more. And then he's like, well, you should have told Margaret talked to him one more time. I'm not gonna speak to no more. And then he's like, well, you know, that's so funny because we have so many viewer questions from people who don't think that you back them up. That's hilarious. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:36 So he asked for one example where he where Teresa had molasses back. And there's like the longest. I mean, let's rotate them. I mean, I can't remember. She's like outsourcing her responses. She is sucking so much energy out the room in that moment that literally the lights go out. Yes, the lights are even finished with this,
Starting point is 01:16:01 so the lights go out. And he goes, this is our first reunion in Blackout, Jacky goes, it's Margaret's fault. She's like, I told you, she turned off lights, that's what she goes, that's what she does, she turned off lights at reunions, guys. So, so much, I can't come up with examples. So, Melissa's like, you know, you're not on my side. I mean, you didn't even leave Jen's house when she tried to put hands on me. You should have left. You know, the double standards are insane with you.
Starting point is 01:16:35 And she goes, she called me a crook. Which, but Jen goes, no, crooked, crooked. And Teresa goes, she heard it from Margaret. She has to deflect it onto Margaret. Margaret, I called him a prick. And Jen goes, yeah, well, you didn't say he was a prick. You just said, you think I don't know, he doesn't pay people. I didn't say it, okay.
Starting point is 01:17:00 You know, you know, you're high half of the time. Do you know how much pot she smokes? There, everyone, there's a bomb for the trailer. Anyone, no one wants to take that one. That was a big one, I thought. I'm Theresa Gus. People function better when they're high. Like, okay.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Okay. We've got Theresa for the, Theresa for the doctor. The new C evercoup to Risa, you guys. I'm gonna let it dumb, no edit dumb dumb and just like you know what my dad would say if he was alive and he heard Joe is a crook And he's like, oh come on. I told you I told gender make it bad. All right And but Teresa also goes Teresa does the thing and she goes first of all she said crooked like Crook it and she like raised her hand like a fish like you know Crook it like that's all like crooked what if I have that make it any better so Andy is talking about how now the feud has moved up to a new generation
Starting point is 01:17:58 we're left with the angel's question are we all as terrible as our mothers or let's take a let's take a look and It's the you know the kids the kids who smoke 12 cartons a day, you know questioning Joe like I know what did Joe talk this way about Daddy your dad is a fucking monster. He got your mother thrown in jail And have you read half the shit that he says about Joe in the first place, please don't turn into your mother. Take from someone who has you have to turn back. Sorry, I didn't mean to talk our view, but I'm just like very impassioned right now. But like, how about
Starting point is 01:18:36 also the stuff that he has said about Teresa on TV, you know, on a phone calling out the C word, I'm sorry, no, you're father's gonna shut the fuck up. Okay, that's what I say. So Teresa's like, all right, come on, Joe, watch the show, you signed with Kathy, you was signed with Kathy. And you're like, oh my God, Teresa.
Starting point is 01:18:55 Do it a Kathy call back. Kathy call the house. Kathy's just somewhere riding her little murder. She wrote back around the overhead, like listening to the news. Like, yes, I'm still, I've still got it. And then Jo and stuff. He's like, what, you think about my kids?
Starting point is 01:19:28 Just what they watch the seasons, too, but they don't say nothing. They don't say nothing. I was like, okay, like, congratulations on traumatizing all your children. Well, Fricka from Dallas says, Gia seems to forget all the crap Joe. Junai says about Melissa and Joe in the press. I'm looking at something Joe said. He said, he should be embarrassed.
Starting point is 01:19:49 Without me, he'd still be climbing trees, cutting branches. Good luck ever getting to a home of the pool again, you burglar. And he's like, well, do your kids get upset, Joe? And Joe goes, they read things. That's the internet today. The internet todays. And so Teresa's, and Teresa's like, and he says, well, does Gia get concerned
Starting point is 01:20:14 when her dad talks about her uncle in the press? And Teresa's like, yeah, we tell him, like, Lisa and I'm embarrassed for his actions, you know, and then Melissa's like, well, someone should tell Gia that and it shouldn't be us who's doing it, which is their right. Like, it should be Teresa who's stepping in, be know, and then Melissa said, well, someone should tell Gia that. And it shouldn't be us who's doing it, which is their right. It should be Theresa who's stepping in, be like, listen, like, this is still your uncle that you're, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:31 right, but you're still a child, man. Yeah. A little baby toddler, really. Childler, I'm gonna mask some bananas for you. And the tree's like, I don't take it on me, don't take it on Gia Don't take it on me. I'm right. And Andy's like, well, Hammer from Roy says, Melissa,
Starting point is 01:20:49 you didn't say anything when Margaret came after Louie. And Melissa's like, market didn't say anything bad about Louie. She said there were weird negative things about Louie in the press. She asked questions, which is. And Louie. Mar-a-a-so. Mar-a-so being a little, you know, she was like, did you hear?
Starting point is 01:21:06 Did you hear the story? Serena from Tana Fly told me this is about Lili. It's crazy. What do you think? She was, you know, she was being gossed. She was being a yenta, but she was also not being, she wasn't being a bitch or anything, you know? And she said, my thing is, like,
Starting point is 01:21:19 I think she was extremely messy and I've said multiple times. I think her timing was just terrible all season and she fucked herself with that, which turned back to be true. Thank you, pet back. But she wasn't wrong and she said it all to Teresa's face. So I think there's something to be said for that. So Melissa's like, yeah, well she doesn't say anything negative. I just don't think she has a good taste in her mouth with Louie because of how he acted on this show. And Teresa's like, yeah, well, he done got a nice taste in his mouth about her either.
Starting point is 01:21:50 And I wouldn't need them. So the butter from ball says Teresa, if Marge called Louie a little bitch boy, you'd go crazy. But when Jennifer does it to your brother, it's not a big deal. And Teresa's like, I wouldn't give a shit. I wouldn't give a shit. I wouldn't give a shit. Teresa, she's suddenly the most chill person. Yeah, you're such a fucking liar coming out. So she's like, you know, it's just a joke like, Jo was too involved as well. I'm saying it's called the housewise Joe. Yeah, but Joe, Joe, you guys was on reunions. Yeah, but with the other men and Joe Judeis would not get involved in girls
Starting point is 01:22:25 shit. Sorry, which is not true. Yeah, this is when we try to out all the like misogynists or like like obnoxious gender roles from like from like 1932. Like here comes Teresa to try them all about like girl stuff, boy stuff. It's just so stupid. It is, but then you've got Joe. I mean, Joe Gorgah, you don't even have to try to out any old misogyny because you've got Joe's fresh new misogyny. That's true. You know why honey, you know why honey. It's a show honey and Jan, you put me down honey on a show.
Starting point is 01:22:59 That's terrible honey. And you and your little friend over there and just like, I didn't say anything. You said things to me because I Shut up. I'm like that. A real man wouldn't say shit to me a real man What didn't so they're basically having just like you know massage me off and so yeah, he's like And she goes, oh, I'll do it right back to you bitch girl Oh, and she goes, oh you like that, right? And she's like, I'm gonna defend myself. You just slapped me. That's like, okay. I just got hit by an airway
Starting point is 01:23:35 from the air slap. So, you know, and so most is like, you know what his anger is really towards Teresa, not you to be honest, but like, you don't think's almost like, you know what his anger is really towards Teresa, not you to be honest, but like, you don't think it's funny that your one girlfriend always comes for your brother, Teresa. I think it's a little weird. And Teresa is like, but Melissa, you went for her. And Melissa goes, it's sad. It's almost as sad as sitting at a second table at an engagement party, just so sad.
Starting point is 01:24:01 So sad. And Teresa is like, yeah, I'm just a horrible person. I can take it. I'm like, oh, just the thing that Joe did that pissed your girls off. Like just the hip hop, every line is hypocrisy. So Teresa's like, Melissa, you went for Jen. And Jen screams that she's a good friend.
Starting point is 01:24:20 And then Joe's like, I'm gonna call Louis a bitch boy and see if he comes out. The second he comes out, all right, I'm gonna say that. And Teresa's like, I don't care gonna call Louis a bitch boy and see if he comes out the second he comes out All right, I'm gonna say that and Teresa's like I don't care. I love my bitch boy And Andy goes and what if he called Louis a crook and she goes I address that Like Teresa starts fighting about Louis not being a crook Yeah At least nothing got anything like nothing penetrates it. Yeah, and then and then Jenna explain it
Starting point is 01:24:48 So Melissa is like you know what the cherry on top is that you had a conversation with your husband Doing like Jennifer boys, but you had a conversation with your husband bitching that he wasn't enough of a bitch boy So saying why like why don't you back me up the way Joe Joe backs Melissa up such a gen's like Jenna actually is like, you know what, there's a spectrum baby. I want a happy medium. He's too much. My husband's too little. I want the golden-lacks bitch boy effect, okay?
Starting point is 01:25:13 And so, I noticed he's like Goldie bitch boy. He was like, I love that. And that was actually a good point made by Melissa. Like, it was a good point. It was, and so then, you know, I'm like, oh, all this talk about like girls, business world, what you know, don't a good point. It was, and so then, you know, I'm like, oh, all this talk about girls, business world, what you know, don't talk about girls, or you're a bitch boy, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:29 cause I hate all that talk because it's basically equating that like a man is actually like a woman, which is, and equating that with like, also being an insult, which I think is totally fucked up. But then, as you said, Joe Gorgas like, hey, you want some new, you want some new massaging? Here we go. You know what, you know what, let me tell you said, Joe Gorgas like, hey, you want some new, you want some new massage. And here we go. You know what, let me tell you what,
Starting point is 01:25:48 what makes a man, honey. Let me tell you what makes a man, honey. He's so gross. Like, you don't call me, honey. Yeah, well guess what, a man, he get up at five o'clock at the morning, jerk off a little bit, work construction,
Starting point is 01:26:03 make some fucking money, but they love their woman, make sure she doesn't work a real job. A little to her a little bit. Mix has daughter who loves cheer and her friends in one school, moved to another school because they're men in the family who want to play football. And then the wife puts them on a pedestal and you put her on a pedestal, that's what makes a man, okay? Yeah, he's disgusting. I could joke orga has his charms, but man, he really has a lot of not charming. This is so good. He had man to opress.
Starting point is 01:26:33 Yeah, spectrum. Yeah, he went from Oprah to caveman, you know? Yeah, it's so Jen's like, Yeah, but that day you weren't being a bitch boy and he's like, oh yeah, I'll be a bitch boy all day if you want honey, all right? Cause there's a lot of bitch boys out there that don't know how to be mean, all right? Like, oh, good one. That's a killing it today. Yeah. So then, um, yeah. So, yeah, she's like, you're, well, you have to have it wasn't a little bitch boy. And then, and then Joe's like, get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 01:27:03 And Teresa goes, bitch boy, Joe, sorry. You know, you're kind of like a housewife, sorry, you are. And he's like, I'm a bitch now. And he's like, wow, just because he's part of the action. And I think it's, again, it's really, in the logic of Teresa's universe, it is still really fucked up that she's like, totally down with her friend calling her,
Starting point is 01:27:22 her brother a bitch boy. Like, it's just like, I don't think there's a problem with it at all. I mean, I don't, I really don't know. This is not like I do. Well, Teresa, I mean, I can't put myself into that mind. You know, sometimes it's a blessing not to be an empath. Look up at it, how did you get? Because Chogorga fighting with women is bullshit.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Like, he should not be, I don't think it makes him act like a woman But we all know you don't go fight with the woman the screaming the other woman. That's just fucking crazy He was out of line bill should have told them to shut the fuck up and not be coming for his wife at that party That's crazy I don't think that that's I'm just saying that the Teresa can at one moment be mad at at Joe Gorga for taking his wife side and something and then one moment be mad at at Joe Gorega for taking his wife's side and something. And then Teresa, so she's basically expecting
Starting point is 01:28:08 some sort of like brotherly, sisterly bond that's like us against the world. And then Teresa's friend is calling him a bitch boy and she's just like, yeah, well sorry, you know? Like that's like, I get mad about her inability to see how hypocritical she is. That's why I think that. I see what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:28:27 It's just that I'm not on either of their sides because they're both terrible. Like Teresa is mad that Joe won't stick up for her and Joe's mad that Teresa won't stick up for him and they're both right. They're both indefensible. Like what are you going to do? Stick up for Joe while he's screaming and yelling obscenities at a woman? Like no, you can't stick up for that. Just like Joe can't stick up for Theresa throwing shit
Starting point is 01:28:46 and getting violent with people. He can't stick up. So they're both right in the argument that they're both terrible. So it kinda evens it out for me. And if Joe doesn't wanna be called a little bitch boy, then he should stop trying to fight with women every season because it's gross.
Starting point is 01:29:02 Yeah, well, I mean, but then also Jen starts up with Joe a lot too. It's like, it's not just as simple as like, Oh, Joe shouldn't be fighting with Joe, Joe shouldn't be fighting with women. Joe shouldn't technically Joe shouldn't be fighting with anyone. But like, Joe should be going to bill and saying, listen, we're a friend group. And your wife is on the internet calling me a crook. Like, I don't want to fight with your wife. But like, can you mediate a talk between us?
Starting point is 01:29:23 Could you talk to her? Could you do something? There's like a certain respect. Like can you mediate a talk between us? Could you talk to her? Could you do something? There's like a certain respect. Like, you're in a gay relationship. I would never go to, I would never start screaming at your boyfriend. I love, you know, well, first off, I love him. But if ever we got into it, I would never disrespect him and be like, no, I'm, yeah, and I wouldn't, right, but I'm just saying,
Starting point is 01:29:41 you would never be mean to be alert. I would never be mean to be alert. I would never be mean to be alert. I'm just saying that also, like, let's not also forget the fact that, you know, I feel like sometimes the conversation makes it sound like he just comes in and starts like, just going after Jennifer. And it's like, no, Jennifer also is like,
Starting point is 01:29:56 she, she pokes in prods too. And it's like, you know, again, you should, like, ultimately it's up to Joe to be able to like deal with the poking in the prodding. And he's, and, and and and rise above it. But Jennifer is also not innocent in any of this. No, she's not. I just I just think the ways he handles it is gross.
Starting point is 01:30:13 And I think that he does act like a housewife, you know, and it's gross. Now that said, you know, Melissa should be very grateful for him because he's the only reason her stupid ass is still on this show. And I do find him very entertaining. Although I am getting a little sick of it being the Joe and Teresa sobbing at each other show. I mean, it's not enough.
Starting point is 01:30:32 You know, there's got to be something else to do. Like we're fighting over stuff, not us fighting, but like we're going on about the same fights for years. I've got my own family for that, you know? Like. So ultimately, basically Theresa winds up like basically calling him a bitch boy too, which is crazy.
Starting point is 01:30:49 And then Joe's like, you know what? I'm trying to be normal, okay? I'm trying to be right and she's like, all right, you're right, I'm wrong. And he's like, you know what? You know what? You know what? He goes, I won't quit.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Actually, matter of fact, I quit, which is kind of a funny, like literally contradict yourself right there. He's like, you know, I quit, I quit. Actually, matter of fact, I quit, which is kind of a funny, like literally contradict yourself right there. He's like, you know, I quit. I quit. Thank you very much. Thank you, Bravo.
Starting point is 01:31:10 12 years, I love you. I'm done. There I go. There I go. Fuck you people. He's so offended about being called a housewife that he does a housewife, walk off on a week.
Starting point is 01:31:20 He actually does. Jesus, these people. So that brings us to the end of Jersey, at least till next week in the week after, because it's a month of Jersey yelling. Thank you so much for being here, guys. Go check out our bonus. It comes out Friday for selling sunset, episode one, and check out our interview with Carlos King tomorrow Thursday, May 5th.
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