Watch What Crappens - RHONY: Best Friends for Never

Episode Date: August 31, 2018

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been bashing me all season long on his blog. Ronnie Carrom from trashdogtv.com, and also Rose Pricks Rose Pricks bachelor rose podcast. What's going on? Yes, Rose Pricks rose. Hi, man. Hi. What's up? What's up? Happy birthday. God is cracking up watching this reunion so funny. Me too. Oh my God. I mean Wednesday nights between this and Dallas Which we will be covering Dallas, Maniana Between those two shows. It was just a highly, highly entertaining lineup on Bravo. Oh, it really was.

It was fabulous. And of course, we had a fabulous night together last night at Aaron Gibson's book launch for Feminasty. Aaron Gibson from Throwing Shade. So everyone should go buy her book. And I've decided I'm going gonna start up a new podcast called throwing shade and It'll be very similar Except much sexier and chill, you know, you know, we could just like get different things made out of made into shade He's like soap and the will throw soap Day space you know, then we'll throw that it's sensual and violent We have a day's space and then we'll throw that. It's sensual and violent.

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Yeah, because I want to do like a Morocco, New York or what? Yeah, no, I mean, that's probably what we're going to do. I mean, we will honestly like, like, that's, I mean, it's basically what we're going to do. But if you like a poll, go vote. Yeah. Um, very excited. So after, yeah, after New York, we're going to do, um, Seattle. And then we are going to Nashville. So go get your ticket. You can find ticket links at watch what crap is calm. It's also the last week to get your gorge t shirt. So go get those. The links are at Crapin at watchupcrapins.com as well. And now, oh, also Patreon, our bonus episode was super fun talking about our trip last week

and the strip club we went to. Yeah. Those episodes are always fun and you can find those at patreon.com slash watch what crap ends. Oh, right. Now, let's get into the real haze walls of New York City. Oh my god. Reunion part two. Wow, things got things were feisty on this episode. But of course there were feisty. It's Roni. It's real. Yeah, but there was a lot of like Bethany trying her old tricks and then

Carol not taking her old tricks and then Auntie coming in with his bodyguard asked to try and save Bethany from her old tricks, but People are still against Carol. I mean after all that because Carol really just she overplayed her hand You know she's just not as smooth. I don't know. I feel like a lot of the scuttle but that I read on The old internet seemed like a lot of people were anti-bethany, but of course, it's always split I have to say I I mean, I was actually very impressed with the way Carol handled herself. We were joking last week at in Palm Beach that, you know, Carol just always gets shot on during the reenactment. Someone always says to Carol, you know what, shut up, you know, it's like, we'll call you when we need you, you know. But this is,

you know, she finally was like, you know what, fuck it. I'm gonna quit this damn show and I'm fat enough. I'm just gonna just let it out right here. And I felt like she actually defended herself so well that I was shocked to find myself leaning back towards Team Carol. I have actually been Team Bethany in this fight almost from the beginning and kind of, I kind of felt like Carol just cleaned the floor with Bethany this week. Well, I was team Carol all the way until, because Bethany, the way I remember the season, and I know we're all housewives watchers, so we have our own special memories of the way went down. But when I remember, Carol didn't even know Bethany was mad at her until past mid season. So Bethany was acting like she was fine with Carol, but behind her back and

to us she was saying all sorts of nasty shit. Right. And then um, then Carol found out and that's when she started to get slightly mad. But even then she would just call Bethany out on it and Bethany would pretend it's okay and then go talk more shit. Right. So it wasn't really until Carol started coming like too hard for me. I don't know. I like when you come hard, but be fun about it. Carol's just like, man. Well, yeah, I mean, originally it's rough, but I am looking at the internet and seeing,

even on Reddit, they had to shut down the threads and say there's going to be one Carol and Bethany megathread so that all of you can come just bitch in this thread because every post is like fucking Bethany, you know. Right. Well, you know, it's funny because yeah, I mean, I was like on Bethany side, you know, I felt like, you know, like Carol was in Transpitans Lee and they were just like being clicky and Bethany was left out on her feelings were hurt and she just didn't have the tools because of her crazy upbringing to just express herself and she doesn't know how to say things right and she makes the situation worse and worse.

But then after this fight, I'm like, you know, that may all be true, but at the same time she really does have a way of glossing over her contributions to a fight. And Carol just kind of, I felt like Carol came with the evidence. I feel like Carol's receipts Bethany had a had a binder But she didn't read anything out of it because Carol Carol had the real receipts not the ones made in crayon Yeah, not the Vicky receipts not the Vicky ones, but it will get into that you know what you know what we're gonna get into it Why be jumping so far ahead? Let's start at the beginning whoa whoa Joseph little Joseph in promise.

After beginning guys. Okay, so I know. I don't know if any of you have wondered this, but just to rent a have a problem with alcohol. We're starting with to rent a and to rent a like, oh, Jesus again. And he's like, yeah, um, so you don't think you have a problem with alcohol. Just look, I think it was becoming like Brad and Les Paul. Okay. And like you checked me, so.

Okay. Check. I didn't know who I was becoming. You know, why I was using an outlet. Check. Why are you using an outlet? That's so dorenda too. Like, come on out, let you want to fight.

She's fighting with it. I'm just taking a fuck and you. All right. I did you with to fight She's fighting with it. I'm gonna take a fork and you all right. I did you that I did you that So yeah, so basically she's like well, where I started to do is I started you I started to see a therapist once every two weeks No, I went to be I check him into that but once every two weeks and I talked to my mom So next up, so but in Cartagena with Luana dot dot dot and then we see the clip where Luana's like, well, a lady huh? You're a lady who just broke her glass. Three, two, one.

She's a lady, a lady with broken glass. Annie Lennox walking on walking on to Rinda's broken glass Madly Which believe it curls it's a Dorinda Madly get it Mm-hmm and Maddie says well What you got mad because she said you're turning now to be fair you do sometimes turn when you're getting drunk It's just yeah, but I was even drunk here. That's why I got mad. We can even drunk. We just sat down and be like, that's a rule.

Like she's only drunk if she's sitting down for longer than five minutes. Well, I'd like that, like, yeah, exactly. Oh, we just sat down, so therefore she couldn't possibly be drunk. I'm like, do you remember Puerto Rico? You like, got drunk just walking through like a door jam, you know, but she's just like

But also it's like what what what never got broached in this segment, which pissed me off was not like It's not about whether you were drunk or not. It's that what Luan said was honestly It was not even I won't even say benign because I can see how it upset Durin I get it But it was but but it honestly, Durand's response, especially considering that she's allegedly sober, was so much more vicious than anything Luan said. You know, like there's a way to say that. There's a way to say, listen, you know what, don't judge me or whatever. But she just was like, oh, the moment she felt some judgment from Luan that she felt was hypocritical, she just went for the, she just went like oh the the moment she felt that some judgment from lewis and that she felt was hypocritical she just went for the she just went for the jugular and that's nasty

yeah the the fight here is not you know it's whether or not to rend us a drunk which shouldn't be the fight it's like okay why are you an asshole yeah because no one should talk to anybody like that and you do it all the time yeah uh that said of course you're my favorite please never change no totally don't change at all but just like that's this was Andy's fault because you're right that it should be about why are you an asshole when you drink not why are you drunk is why are you an asshole yeah and if you weren't drunk then why are you an asshole at least if you're drunk you have you exactly if you were sober then why were you yelling like that when you

were sober and she's like um come that when you were sober and she's like And then Beth needs just squinting and nodding like yeah Yeah, like even a month even this one even this even the stupidity at the other things she thought you were drunk I mean like you know she's on the program now where she doesn't say what she truly truly feels what's right But like you know at that night she said in the morning. She said at the day She said during during after before during it the entire time it was like all that we're gonna go talk about You know I like right and was like well why don't I'm a sitting anything will we even in Columbia Are we talking about the University on the upper East and West side where is that University anyway? I don't get it. Yeah, go ahead stick with your lines. It's some lines. This is my life. It's an alliance

This is an alliance. Okay, Bethany. But also I like my son. You guys oh she was drunk and we're a monocene. Remonna said something like she's drunk, but I just wrote. She's drunk is Geraldine Parsonsmith. She threw a flip-flop out the head of my patch. We should see her. She's like, wait a minute. Okay. So now you're saying she's drunk and then you said, what you're on a program of just not saying the truth? Like, come on, I'll lie and. A lie and so on. So then we cut to a cliff of Ramona saying it to the group where Durinda was wasted.

She goes, well, we all tend to change personalities. She have too many drinks Durinda and Durinda goes, shut your mouth. In the clip. Sober, totally sober. We're totally sober. I remember then we cut back and Duranda's like, it was loaded like, where she knew it was loaded?

And she knew it. And I just think it's funny that she keeps saying loaded. Yeah, and it's a lot of conversation. Yeah, it was a loaded one. I remote is changing her tune. And she goes, you know what? It just wasn't the right time for the win to see that Duranda wasn't the right time, wasn't the right place.

Like, don't rain on her parade. Don't tell her not to live just sitting in Potter. At least the candy and suns up all about it. OK. Don't bring around a clad raid on Durenda's parade unless it's full of tea does. In which case, she'll open her mouth and start staring at the claps.

Durenda's parade is like the same Patrick's Day parade in New York City. It's like fun and theory, but it's like so cold and unpleasant and the only way you can get through it is if you can't really, really drunk. And there are no floats. And she's just throwing beads at people's heads. I'm not drawing.

Yeah. So then she's like, oh, you think I'm nice to bully. I had a special real microphone for her when she was in rehab. So like, no, when she was calling me. It was called Bugaboo by Beyonce's child. Got my Gerita bill. Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Dada, Lose in rehab.

She just got rehab and gel. Okay, she was in like rehab mode. You know what that is? D-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d- Mariata in rehab mode? He has what happens. Mariata goes into another world and then he's like, whoa, can't do this, I'm gonna rehab. And he goes to sleep. It's like terrible. Like, yes, respect him. So then Andy's like, Lisa from La Chanda, La Coranda says, you know, Luan is becoming sober. So why don't you try getting sober, Dorenda?

You fucking obvious drunk. And then Dorenda's like, hey, I didn't get arrested and go to rehab. You kind of remember here Loot didn't go to rehab because he's a big revelation and me she went because she got it Wrestling was practically court ordered which is a very good point because sometimes people give too much credit like Oh, man. No, I'm really caught herself. Yeah, I decided to make a scene It's like she went to get introduced yeah but i think we can all agree it was probably a good good idea and as

opposed to darenna who's like is that she's to go to rehab it's because i hit rock bottom okay and that he's like well some might argue that you saying that your to your friend who just got out of rehab that she's like an ex-countess felon might be the rock bottom. Yeah, you don't know how far I can go. And you get squashed in the alley. I'm like she makes a fart clip. Oh, also, Bethany, let's replay the scene of everything you said to Sonya last year.

Are you an alcoholic? I'm sick. I can't hit the crit. So Bethany goes, getting arrested isn't the only reason to got a rehab. And Sony's like, yeah, I got for you. Good juice and dick. It's a fun place. Why is rehab getting such a bad rap here? So who should think that Lewand should apologize to Durinda? And of course, Ramona and Carol raised their hands.

I was actually a little surprised that Carol raised her hand because I did not. I thought Carol, she like empathize with Durinda, but ultimately, you know, she seemed to be oddly team Lou. But Carol, she like empathize with D'Arunda, but ultimately, you know, she seemed to be oddly team Lou, but, you know, she's gone. Yeah, it's gone for what I'm going to do. It's gone now. So Beth and Gus apologize to her. Her mother goes to who to drink the being sensitive to D'Arunda. She got them in bed. She dreamed on it. She drank on her parade. Yeah, Beth and he's like, well, some of us, I mean, I'm not going to say who, Farrell, could be more sensitive to someone who had just come out rehabbing jail, like, almost,

you know, Chokefed Bologna sandwiches, okay? Like, that girl was spitting up mustard packets for three days. Okay? Give her the benefit of the doubt. And Dreadna goes, I was so sensitive. And I'm so proud of myself for that. So, you know, I've been sensitive 24-7's to think to me that best of me. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

And so then Sonia finally pops up and she's like, oh yeah, like you never turn when you drink. And she's just saying you were turning and then she goes, shit it! She's got it! So yes! Yeah! That's your pal's. Carol's like, Sonia, you're the last person to talk about getting drunk How about instead of talking a mile a minute you start walking a mile a minute So he's like well, I don't get drunk and insult my friends the ginas which I don't think actually anyone insulted a vagina but you know she means Carol when a dorenda told her to

put a easy pass on her vagina. Oh yeah you're right you know it never mind. And Dorenda just goes you're bringing out Dorenda's greatest hits it's like you're trying to win a fight but then America was like oh yeah that was funny yeah Dorenda's funny and then Dorenda just goes, keep your mouth shut. Yeah, you're just like curating her, you know. Yeah, then you're so cruel. Tell you a mouth to do something you like, so never do and shell up. So then after all this, it's like, so Dorenda, do you still want to be Luann's safe place? And she's like, then we tell you something about that fucking ungrateful bitch passing judge-man-me. I said, love her. I want to be friends.

I know we'll come back together. Oh, so crazy. So next up is the cabaret. And he's like, so who's agreed that he agrees that it's fucked up that Lou Ann, if I had a Scott, but not the fat one. And Beth and he's like, well, I thought she made it clear that she invited Scott because she already got in trouble with Jermanda, so she invited Scott in the last second.

And Ramona's like, whoa, double hands up, both hands in the air, raise the roof with both of my hands. It was fucked up two times over. If I had another hand, I would raise it, here I was my foot, raising my foot right now. I'm trying to get near some static electricity so my hair can go up to, it's like, up yet, Averyvery can you lift up my hair? She's my best friend and my hair lifter. Good job Avery you're doing a great job. I put Roman is on the Romano coaster because she's like whoa whoa with her hair it's in the air. It's like a drug set so put your hands up in the air and we're gonna dance like Matthew don't care. Is that a song? Can I just make that up? don't care. Is that a song?

Can I just make that up? So Bethany, oh, so Durin is like, no, no, you like a check. She starts like whipping her text out from behind the dress and she's like, I got a check. She says it was a girl's night and I shouldn't know that. Yeah, but that still doesn't mean like you still called and yelled at her. So she probably thought, well, I guess I'm in trouble all invite Scott. Yeah. Now, because we know Scott was invited the last second So then Ramona's like look, it was her okay, yeah, and

It was a question. No, I'm so you know what? Loo did not win this one and and Bethany it was admirable that Bethany tried to defend it, but ultimately This is this is this was a this was a mess up on the loose part I'm sorry even though even though, yeah, it's like, oh, well, she thinks that now John's coming, so she's gone by Scott. Like, I think overall, not Lou Ann's finest moment. I think where Bethany has a better case, though,

is that when she just turns it all around on Carol. And she's like, you know what? She's like doing cap-a-ray right now. Like, she's got to cap-a-ray. And like, she's very stressful. She has to be focused. And like, that's not the time to like turn to tensing and be like, oh, you have to tell Dorenda this. You have to tell Derinda that's yeah tell Derinda I was like no that's true

Well, you have that it's because it started and he started it because he's like well Ramona said that Lou had changed But she hadn't and she goes yeah, and then to Renta said she would do with it later because it's Lou's night And you know Mike I told Bethany after all that discord, you know It's like maybe we should wait but then Bethany said she had to tell the wind right then and then boom all that stuff happened Bethany's like oh, yeah, well, Tennessee was the one who felt she had to tell Tread to write before the show And then Dread to yell the Giovanni on the stage. Yeah, and then she's like Giovanni Giovanni Giovanni What's the matter? What's going on? What's happening? And then Dread is like I wasn't like Giovanni like that I was like, hey, Giovanni!

Yeah, I was like, Giovanni, I like Giovanni. I like Drenda's like differentiation between Giovanni and Giovanni. And then Adi's like, well, it did sound like you were heckling, Karen. She goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did. But I needed to call him out. I love Giovanni.. I love you, Bailey. And about things like, yeah, well, that's not the right time. That's not the right time. Watchy is on the stage. That is a stage, respect the stage. Whatever. So Judy from Judy Town is like, let's get back to this. So wait,

it's a window of drunk or like, oh, okay, we'll just, okay, we'll go back. We'll go back to this. And so, the basic question is, is, uh, hello, I know you guys are probably talking about something else right now, because I'm not live at the reunion, but like, is anyone concerned about Tyrinda? Anyone? And so Carol's like, meee.

Yeah, and Tyrinda laughs, but I'm like, oh, as she is, she is in Ramon, is so fun. They're concerned. I'm fine I'm fine. I'm fine. She like passes out on the couch. And he goes well, Luanne, Luanne said you had a problem She's And come on Which is true. It's like this is now been an hour and a half of the reunion is is Durrinda drunk We know she's a drunk. Okay, let's stop acting like everybody fucking cares. Yeah Hello, this is count is Luanne and the Seps. I'm going to kill you all, but not before this ad. Would you believe it, girls? We have an ad.

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So now the question is, now it's like talk about Luan again and like are you gonna apologize to her or whatever and she's like, I've tried, I've applied to guys to attend times on the camera and off camera. I've done everything I can. Listen, I even wrote something from the big shoes. I was like, you want to come to the big shoes? You're like, didn't write back. I'm like, is it big shoes? I said, you're not writing back the big shoes. Yeah. I believe we come back, you're so boring.

And I remember, I was like, yeah, you'll come back. So I'm going and then to render to shrugs. So now, now to get a break from that, we get a whirlwind romance with Scott intensely. And the clip of that thing, I'm like, oh my God, it's like you're going to try out coffins like when he's trying out a wedding dress okay and yeah Tinsley getting all upset at her eggs my eggs yeah it was weird that they didn't rehash the coffin thing because that became a stupid little argument and I'm surprised that Andy did not try to like poke Tinsley because she basically did nothing. She's done nothing this reunion.

And so I was surprised that he wasn't going to get Tinsley in Bethanity to fight. You know, we're Bethanity we have to clarify. I wasn't saying that I'm hoping she dies. I'm saying it's weird to me. I thought they were going to rehash that, but they didn't. They didn't instead. It was just like, we got to see the whole segment of the eggs and everything. I don't know if you noticed when they had like Sonia in the little corner watching I'm gonna got the eggs part so he just goes what the hell Is this like she hadn't seen it yet and she's like what's going on? So then it becomes the relationship and Tensy was saying on watch your app and slide that she broke up with Scott

But now they're together. It's like, yeah, we're back together. And he's like, so when you guys take all of these breaks, is he seeing other people? She's like, yeah, he's seeing other people all up and goes, how does that make you feel? She goes, no, well, bitch. Ha ha ha ha. And they're in the goes, yeah, no, well, bitch. Yeah, that's good. That was a good win.

And it's like, and so how are you dealing with it? She's like, well, I have to be an adult. I have to be an adult about it because I'm like, not an adult about other things like my eggs. So I'm gonna be an adult about this. Oh. What am I gonna do? Just get mad that he's like fucking other people

and then lose him. I'm like, okay, you're pathetic. You keep along on the bachelor. This is the most pathetic thing you can get a job. I know I'm saying it all the time to people lately, but I'm really sick of people staying with shitty men like this because they don't want to move out of their hotel apartment.

Yeah, I think it's actually not cool. If they are like, they date and then they like separate and then he sees other people and then he comes back. Like, Tinsley, you just like, he may be nice and cool and everything, but you deserve a man who just wants to be with you all the time. Yeah, I mean, if you're into dating and you're into seeing other people,

that's fine. It's not like you can only see one person at a time. You know, I'm not a grandma. Yeah, like like she's totally into it. And then even this, he goes, do you see where do you see yourself in the year? And she goes, and Gays dish

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Jealousy does not look good. Yeah. I mean, it's like, well, we haven't reached the end of that story. Let's watch. So we watch a very extensive, like, clip package of Luans entire journey across the season. The best part was during their rest because when they were showing that footage, we got to see Ramona in the little box. And Ramona's eyes were just flaring more than we've seen in like three seasons. They're just like wide open, like, whoa, look at that dress that she's wearing in front of a judge. We're at the front of a judge.

Can't believe she, what at the conny? I wonder what she didn't get invited to do. Y'all. I wrote Ramona's Strague. Ramona eyes. Ramona eyes, Ramona's Strague. Ramona's Strague. Ramona Streg, Ramona Eyes, Ramona Eyes Streg, Ramona Streg Eye, Ramona Streg, Ramona Eye. Just remonin' that little box was hysterical.

Yeah. So then, and he's like, God, it would have been nice to have her here. So, Bethany, you were with her a lot this weekend. Tell us what happened. And Bethany's like, yeah, yeah, I've been talkin' to Ramon, like I connected her with Dennis Salphan with legal issues, you know, like, and, uh, which is sad. And sad sad and then and by the way, it was nice that they put in a little thing for Dennis at the end of the show Yeah, she's like and then but this weekend finally we had like sad face reality because like she's not gonna Do the reunion the recent situation with the family didn't help with the family, you know and the lawsuit and kids like

She kind of gave us the whole story in two seconds, because she knocks her fast. Exactly, and I'm known as like weighing in with her legal, I mean, her like psychological thing, too much for court case. She can't handle it court case. She has a big head, but not a lot of capacity inside. It's very surprising. A lot of cushioning, okay?

She can't handle it. Whoa, she had to go away to win, camp. Yeah, and he's like, well, they've really sheep, you know, she brings up a lawsuit with the kids and during this, like, you get the feeling is she can get a lawsuit. See, this was handcuffs. Would they be the handcuffs and with

Bobi? Who the handcuffs in the brand? Because those are apparently two different things. And he's like theumbich ones. Yeah. And he asks like basically what they would want to know. And she's like, well, she would want you to know that it's not because of her family. She'll take care of that, you know. And then Andy's like, so did you guys get the feeling in the last season? She called you guys all jealous bitches of her marriage.

And then of course that fell apart. Did you feel like that she came back to this season with her tail between her legs and her like, no, not really. Not really. It's Luan, okay. And then Bethany goes, oh yeah, yeah. You know, I think it was a turning point in her trusting me. That's like, okay, of course, leave it to Bethany.

So Ramona's like, well, you know, I told her that Mexico's stuff about Tom, and she said, oh my god, don't town the well. And honestly, I think that's why she fell down. And Andy goes, well, also because she had like 19 tequila. So she goes, yeah, that's you, I guess. And he goes, do you think that she drank too much tequila in Mexico because you told her about Tom

and during the goes, well, she didn't help. No, I missed all this because my direct TV had a glitch. It got scrambled. And then when it came back, we were in commercial. So I missed the abortion. Oh, you're going to love this. Okay. So let me see here.

So I don't mess it up. So Andy's like, so have any of you seen her drinking when she said she was supposed to be sober and Ramona like does like the major Ramona shrug Yeah, she was at the beacon. Yeah, that's where I came back the beacon Yeah, I'm surprised it wasn't a page six. Yeah, she was leaning back on our friend And then she kicked her legs up in the air and did a Sonya and then they had to escort her out like so much so But they had to escort her out. Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's where I came back and then they had this quarter out like so much so they had this quarter out. Yeah, yeah That's yeah, that's where I came back and then and then basically the windows like yeah, I bet the you knew she was doing

King didn't she was like yeah, I know I know so like better than even try to do my Yeah, yeah, and then she's like well, you know, I wouldn't say she didn't come to the decision entirely on around there We're a few people there. It was very emotional. It was very emotional. I remember I was like, it's sad. It's sad. Okay. It's sad. It's like getting a, it's like getting a stemless glass without even any lines in it. Very sad on so many different fronts. And he's like, but what do you guys think happened? Remember when Carol Todd or what coffee was? And we're in this like, yeah, you know her problem.

She's that she can have just one. It thank you ready for yeah exactly that's that's the problem Durinda so Sonya's like I had a lot of wonderful sober time with Luann I mean she was great she was hanging out she only had like two bottles of wine is very simple and Andy's you know, when I saw her, I kept her as she did seem the little, seem a little off. And so I was like, oh, whatever. I tried.

Yeah. So then we talked about like, do you guys really feel for her investing? It's like, yeah, you know what? I feel for her. Because like, now that I know her, like I feel like she just really wants to be loved, you know? Like she's so huge.

Like she's gigantic. Like seriously? She walks onto an airplane and people shrink back and they're like, holy shit, please don't let just really wants to be loved, you know? Like, she's so huge, like, she's gigantic. Like, seriously, she walks onto an airplane and people shrink back and they're see, it's like, holy shit, please don't let her sit next to me. You know? Like, can she find a hat? No, she can't, because I had to try and know what it is. Like, she's literally the biggest person I've ever seen.

Yeah, she's like a big baby. She's a big baby. Yeah, she's like, you know what? She's like, you know, you know, you go to Bob's big boy, you know, you go to that diner. There's like a big baby on the top of the roof. You know, it's like Bob's, she put out the wind's big, big boy, you know what?

It's just like the wind, the wind up there. It's like a big baby with a statement necklace, okay? Like know, it's like Bob's, she put up the wind's big, big boy. You know what? It's just like the wind, the wind up this. Like a big baby with a statement necklace, okay? Like that's what it needs, and like here that has points. Okay, you know what, that's all. And you know, she's trying her best, okay? Durinda says, the happy is trying to lose

was when she was with the count and had kids. And she's laughing. And that's when she's like, yeah. And then it had rappled when she was in the haptons alone. I'm like, yes, yes. And this is all very sad. And Liu has gone through so much pain. And I'm not going to take away any of that pain.

But let's also remember that that's when Lewan was a flaming cop fitness, which was silly. It's like Lewan is happier than ever, but she's also evil as ever to anybody else. So it's like, what do you take? You know, like, which one do you, which one would you prefer? Because this miserable drunk Lewan is at least nice and fun for the most part. I don't know. I like all versions of Luana. I think they're all great. I think they're all great in entertaining and you know iconic. So so now it's like now we're going to focus on Ramona trying to get an invitation to Tom's

New Year's party down in Palm Beach on the yacht. So was that okay, especially considering that Ramona was like talking shit about it at Duff's book party earlier, like a few weeks earlier. So Ramona, was that, you know, was that hypocritical of you to try to go to town? She goes, well, well, Andy, thank you for the question. That was very good question. Very good. Very good. Well, very dated. A lot of good words in it. I like the syllabus. I like the rhythm of it. It's a good question. Asked from a good man. Talked to a good woman. I think we all have to think about that question. And I want to thank you for asking it. Next question. In retro fitting, it wasn't a good idea. Okay. No, I just wasn't thinking. That's

all. I wasn't thinking. It's like Ramon. One of the apologizers back for another round. And he's like, but you even bad Mal's Tom right before this all happened. It's just, yeah, and guess what? I just said, I said, wasn't thinking. That is the truth. What a good question about. What a good question.

Was I thinking? No, I wasn't thinking. All his friends are my friends, and my friends are his friends. And none of us think. We have a thinking problem. friends and none of us think we have a thinking problem You know when you said you have a thinking problem I have a very strong thinking problem and I can't stop thinking sometimes but sometimes I have I can stop and it's awful I'm a maven thinking I'm a maven thinking is like you just had to go to this party and she says no

No, now I had to go my friend really wanted to go. Okay. She's the one you had to go and he goes Oh, and you don't have your own mouth and she was, no, no, not I had to go. My friend really wanted to go. Okay, she's the one who had to go. And he goes, oh, and you don't have your own mouth. And she goes, it was a very blunt moment. And he paid me a lot. I'm very glad you asked that. I actually do not have my own mouth. This mouth was surgically implanted onto me in third grade. If this one time was a little girl,

I was like, I want to sing a song. And Joe Dean Parsons missed it. I'm so sick of you singing bad songs that she actually chopped off my mouth as a machete. And I had to get a song and Jody Parsons is that I'm so sick of you singing bad songs that she actually chopped off my mouth Of the machete and I had to get a new one put on so actually Andy to answer your question, which I think is a very good question I actually don't have my own mouth. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but let's face it. This day it can't even use a machete. Okay, I can't. I can't even watch that movie, Michelle. He brings back too many memories. So he's like, okay, Ramona, okay.

So basically you were in Palm Beach when she was there, right? Just no, no, that was not the same time it was after. Bethany goes, yeah, yeah, she was making plans while Lewand was arrested. Okay, it's like all over the news and Ramona's making party plans. And she goes, but he declined. Like he said now and Andy goes, but he declined. Like he said now, and Andy goes, wait a minute, he said no. Which I love an Andy out.

So the fact that he kind of doesn't watch his shows, you know, like they're on in the background. And we're gonna go, yes, which I'm so lucky for. Cause it gave me an out. From my maniac friend who's trying to make me go. And suddenly goes, I was invited and I didn't go because I'm a good person. And then he like hats her head

and puts a little treatment around. Yeah. So does anyone think that Luanne's cabaret show and her fame is affecting her? And of course, you know, Durin just like, like literally everyone at the same time was like, yeah, yeah, they're like, like, I mean, Shorty has a pumpkin head.

And now I mean, it's just out of control. Yeah, like she literally has the biggest head I've ever seen. I'm a human being. It's even bigger now like his nuts. Like they they didn't even want a letter in Dorena happy because they only have beds that are so white. They actually have to hold up her head with like little wooden planks. It's like it's crazy. Yeah, so Duranda's like yeah, she was getting... Yeah, she was feeling herself. She was losing people people people. I mean, even after me, okay, I was before and that's me says, uh, you know, she felt like the arrest made her more famous

in Denver, which is so lukewarm. Yes, look at me. I've been arrested. This is fabulous. Have you seen the free loose shirts? I've made it. Yeah, but you kind of like can't even blame her. I mean, look what happened to Martha Stewart after she went to jail. She became more loved than ever before. Sometimes like, I'm not saying like, oh, everyone should get arrested. But like, there is a pattern in society that when someone goes to jail, that sometimes they come out and people just sort of like love them even more.

And so even though Durinda's right, that she probably confused fame with infamy, the truth is it was like barely fame and it's barely infamy either way. And so I kind of, I get it. I mean, I don't think that Luan should become cocky, but like she is more famous now. She really is. Well, it's Nama always say you get one burn in a bush and you get five panes of chicken. It's like okay, Jareem Beth, thanks. And Beth's name's like yeah, yeah, you know, I've got also much larger than life. I guess it just needs to be leveled and boom. It's leveled, okay? You know, it's a journey, you'd go.

It's a journey. Yeah, that's journey. So now we go to break and we come back from break from what's like, whoa, I think I'm pretty good at being able to say what, mind if I go to the bathroom, can we switch couches and then I can go to bathroom and switch back. I've got to lose my face that still hasn't been explained and he And he's like, no, no, we're just going to do this thing real quick. She's like, you sure? Yeah, yeah, you guys said, I'm like, okay, and then they start mounting. I love you, Andy. You're like gay, Marriott. He's like, I love you. You're like

terrifying Ramona. She's like, oh my god. Oh,. So then Carolyn Bethany second. Here comes here comes here. Here we come We get to see a whole long clip package of their fight as their relationship as it deteriorates deteriorates we got to see some stuff I've forgotten about like when they were fighting in that restaurant and the wind just like It's sad. It's sad, it's so sad. Oh, how awful to watch these two friends just tear each other down. I hope that would never happen to me and you, Durin, right? To see that happen in a public place, oh, restaurant, oh restaurant.

A restaurant, and I was just about to perform here. Now it's ruined. But two things that I noticed from this montage, A, like 100% Bethany is the aggressor. Like in every single scene, it's Bethany coming at Carol. She's like, what, like Bethany is a super aggressor, which maybe you've stating the obvious, but it's just very apparent in this montage.

And second of all, I love how we're watching a friendship fall apart. And again, the music's like do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do Yeah, no it's a reminder. And Carol doesn't seem to be able to remember the right things to bring up, which is infuriating throughout this thing. You know, it all becomes this text fight again. Yes. So basically what it starts off with, you know, we started, it all started last summer. And Carol was away, she was in LA because her friend Cassandra had lost her husband, so

she was with Cassandra most of the summer. And when Carol came back, Bethany felt a little shift in their friendship But not a lot just a little Yeah, but I've seen it before you know sometimes things shift. You know, then it goes away It's like HPV you know, it's like you're really worried about it. It's gone. You're like wise everybody so scared Yeah, no one I mean girls like right You knew I was training for the marathon. Yeah, she did.

She's like, marathon. And then Beth and he's like, yeah, yeah, I saw the shift because of summer before we talked a lot in the summer, we didn't. I'm like, did you not hear the part about her friends who's been dying and her thing? Exactly.

So Beth and he's the marathon. And she's, yeah, but I took you to Montauk and then when I came to get you from Montauk, you made me pick you up and drop you off. Like you didn't even invite me inside. And I was like, why? And she was yeah, but I took you to Montauk and then when I came to get you from on talk You made me pick you up and drop you off like you didn't even invite me inside That was like white and she's like Cassandra didn't want to see new people. She was upset I said oh really because now he went to dinner with new people. I saw you with new people She's like Bethany it was Cassandra and her friend and her mom was like she felt slight it. Okay

She's so slighted. I thought she's trying to say she just felt slighted Well, yeah, I mean well Bethany also doesn't realize is that like if Carol I guess Cassandra was at Carol's house and if Carol brings Bethany in it's not like meeting one new person You're little it's like Bethany is the equivalent of eight people at once. Okay. She is so potent So that's like a lot like if you're just like chilling at home being like, you know as the summer I'm just watching big brother I just want to chill out and then like eight people walk in and they're all asking the same question all at once You're like I can't I can't do this. Yeah, it's like it's like opening a portal to the sixth train. Yeah, you know

Yeah, yeah, it's like that the subway just like barrels into your living room when you're just trying to watch really Jen I'm a guy. I was from that. Tell me about that. What was that like was a spot? Who's fault was it was it was it a cockroach? Oh, yeah, I had a guy's on a good dinner. Yeah, I have a good dinner there in LA. Yeah, yeah I was in Pacific pal say it's that what was Peepy Bratwood totally would have been she would do like what happened. Okay, so you say I move on right now Okay, like what's your brand like I don't get it like what's what are you even doing it like what you've been in New York? Supposed to be an LA like what what are we?

What are party girl? I'm looking at your Instagram. I can't tell the difference What's your real well? You make carol go all the way up there to LA and then you just come out here to New York Like how about just come to New York at the first place that way she don't wait that carol doesn't go there like what it's what's going on I don't see any Cassandra. Yeah, that is so true to us is a one-ass I feel fine. Okay, and Carol's like well, but Bethany I mean I was sending you tons of messages and I was asking all my friends to use their private planes for Puerto Rico I mean I have all tons of texts to show you. I'm best of the... Oh really? Because I'd love to see that. I'd love to see all these texts. Where you're being so supportive and like asking for

planes and Andy goes, please don't. Yeah, little does he realize. So, but things are cracking up. At that point, I was like, Tim's just sitting there like eating the popcorn. So, this is where things are still pretty simple at this point. But now, you know, things start to deteriorate really because of Adam. You know, I feel like Adam is not getting enough blame for his role in this friendship falling apart

because what he do. Well, well, meaning that he is at the center. It's always a guy tearing apart the girls in that he asked you. So basically it was the issue with Adam. And that Adam, you know, we all know. So there was the issue, this like, nebulous thing that happened with Rebecca and he wanted Adam to do this thing and he said he wanted money. So Bethany called up Carol and

Bayesie was talking to you about Adam like that fucking, she thought she was like being like this will be like an empowering pile on because they're broken up, but she didn't realize that they were back together, so it was about it being like a nasty pile on, and then she like admittedly said that she did that and then pulled back, so now Carls have to get her get ruffled for the first time now, and she's starting to say like, you know, like people say mean things about you Bethany all the time and I say maybe she's having a bad day or maybe she's having a bad month or you know she has a terrible life she's a miserable person but I love her. I advise first of all because now we're entering Bethany's like and you laugh you laugh you laugh you laugh which is Bethany's like the lowest point in fighting and you know Bethany's lowest point in fighting. And you know Bethany's already lost the fight when she starts just overtaking you and saying,

you are. And that's what he does. So he does him here on out. Yes, from here on out. So check, and Brian's first of, by the way, it's just, and then after that Adam saying, I said, if anybody says something negative to Adam again, shut it down.

And she said, well, you know, when I found out, you weren't really broken up, or truly broken up, I retreated, I retreated, okay? And he's like, yeah, and it seems like you guys had a bunch of conversations trying to get back to normal. And Carol goes, yeah, well, I wanted it to be back to normal, but I don't think she ever did. I think she was done with me.

You know, you were ready for it to be over. And I said, let's talk. And you were dismissive, condescending, over. Nothing is like- Nothing's like, I wasn't ready for it to be over. I said, I wanted it to be done, I said I wanted to be done not over done Not over what's wrong with you Carol like can't you say the words right? Okay over not done done over what I Yeah, and then you said on TV that you don't have high hopes about our makeup She goes no, I said I was proceeding with caution

And then she's like you said you were texting me this and I said that I don't want to care for me That was just a lie Bethany and she said I said I sent you a text and I said that I don't want to care for you. That was just a lie, Bethany. And she said, I said, I said you were texts. And you said that I kept sending you texts and that was a lie. Oh my God. Please. And then she said, and then you texted me and said, don't talk to me on camera to the other women. Yeah.

So then she whips out her pink folder. Yeah, this is where it becomes like the keyboard was a corer. Skinny girl red. Yeah, I was like, this is where I'm ready for the dun dun dun dun. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun the cases you were seeing are real. The plaintiffs are real. Whatever they say, whatever that should be is, you know. It was careily like that. So Carol's got her big glasses and she's like, you said she's reading her phone. She's like, you said, why are you so cold? I am your friend Ramona is evil. And Ramona goes, oh, whoa, thanks a lot, I'm glad to hear welcome. That was my favorite part, just like the casual. My mom is evil.

Thanks a lot, Bethany. Thanks a lot. You're welcome. Yeah, you know, and that's the last thing I am. It's the last thing I am. I'm not saying I'm not evil, I'm just saying it's the last thing because I'm also a good friend and a supporter and then I'm evil.

I'm not evil, I was just having a blunt moment. Okay. So girls like I said, I said, stop the fighting. I want to enjoy the holiday. And you said something else about Ramona, which I won't say. I'm on the good. Oh, another mean thing. Hey, wow, wow. Whoa, whoa, that's crazy. Oh, I know what she said about me. She probably says I really enjoy drinking wine out of the Seat Emelistic glasses. So wrong. I'm

Ageless, but you know, so Bethany because Bethany says I sent you one text not 50 and it was 8 cents is long. Okay, which I thought was such a specific Like I tell her is that she like counted it out and everything, but it's also hilarious that she was clearly wrong because she never even read what she she did. She had that whole folder and she didn't read anything out of it. So it's kind of funny because in Bethany's mind she sent one text and then Carol responded and then they had further conversation and she didn't count the other conversation. She didn't think it was part of the evidence and Carol's like no, this is the whole conversation. And she read it and she was being more or less normal. And even Andy was like, that seemed like it was pretty much fine.

And so I really felt like Carol won the text evidence round. Yeah, she totally won it. And then just rest and he's like, yeah, but then you were talking on the show and then you got mad at me on the show where I said you don't have children like who cares? You don't have children just I did not get mad at that I did not I did not and then Andy goes look I think you both said some things and then we see a clip well

Before Andy's saying that Bethany Bethany makes her claim she goes you know, I said I said one I said one negative thing all season long I just said that she didn't have a grip the only thing and you talk bad about me all season long and then that's what Andy's like well you both said negative things about each well and and Carol's like no you said bad things etc but it was funny to me that Bethany thought she only said one negative thing all season and then they showed this montage of them both talking so much shit yeah I'm a takeer I was a takeer of Caroler. I was the takeer of Carol to trips. I was the takeer of Carol to

vacations. I was a takeer of Carol to blah blah blah. And then they show Carol saying, she's a 12 year old. Don't want to be a victim. And the best. And he's like, yeah, you've got to be a real moron. Do not notice during it doesn't have a clown face. What kind of friends is that? Which there was a lot worse. So I was surprised that this was all they showed. But now Carol's fired up. Yeah, she goes, yeah, I did say stuff, but that was after all the other stuff had happened. And by the time we got to Cartagena, it was excruciating. Like then I was talking shit.

Yeah. That was the end of the season. Yeah, and she's basically like, she's like, all she goes, all you did the season was bully, brag, and bitch, you know? And then, and then Ben is like, I don't want, at this point, all you did this season was bully, brag, and bitch, you know? And then, and then, and then, I don't, I'll, at this point, like you said.

You know what example? One example, you know what example? What example? Bethany is now, again, sort of what Carol had said a few weeks ago, what you just said. Bethany is now concerned and just tripping her up. Like, she's like, give me, doing that. Give me one example.

Tell me when that happened. I didn't say that specifically. Okay, okay, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. You're gonna do it, you're gonna do it. Okay, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. Okay, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, you're gonna do it. You're gonna do it. Okay, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, like jeez. And I liked that Carol finally just was like, fuck her. And she's like, are we going to do this?

Are you going to continue to bully me? Are we gonna be able to speak? You know, and she's just really like doing, she has those glasses on, so she's like in full like school mar mode, you know? And she's just like really, she has those glasses on, so she's like in full like school marmode, you know? And she's just like really, you know, like take it, she's just, now she's like sort of rising up.

And I feel like we haven't seen her this mad since a Vibadrusha, so that she wasn't the actual writer of her book. Yeah, she's like, okay, I will tell you one thing, but I need to look at my notes at, because I've written them all down. And I have a thing of how you come up with this. I love that. Yeah. It's like, oh, you're copious notes.

She goes, OK. She says, I didn't say one single thing about you except that you don't have children. Oh, no. Oh, and Carol goes, you said clingy. And she goes, oh, no, I'm clingy. Are you OK? Are you able to deal with that?

I'm clinging. Oh, no. Yes, that's the thing. So then Bethany does another thing, which shows that you're losing, which is that she starts taunting everything Carol says, instead of like, rebutting or clarifying or figuring it out. So she just starts taunting, you know. So the thing is that Carol goes down this list, you know, Carol's like, she creates a

narrative about herself. Oh, you're married if that's the favorite word. Oh. She loves that word, bear it. Yeah, bear it. Wow. Wow. How about that? Huh? Huh? Have I always used words double ours. How about that? I don't know when I do that. See see like I'm doing it again. But go ahead. Go ahead. Speak. Okay. Oh wait. Here you walls are up. Hold on. Balls are up.

I'm like, they're coming down. Okay. Okay. Speak now. Speak now. Okay. Wait. They're back up. They're back up. Walls are back up. Sorry. I can't hear you. So Carol just goes down like a huge list. I mean, she wrote it all down and she just has a whole list. And Bethany can't really even deny anything. All she can do is like mock or try to change the subject or harp on one little thing. And so, you know, there was the thing about the career in the kid. And Carol's like, okay, here come the big guns. She goes First of all my husband died second of all if he hadn't done it, we would have had a kid

And she goes by the way we all have the same careers here and she goes um actually I don't think that we do And girls it the most disturbing one of all started in the Berkshire's, the Berkshire's, the Berkshire's, when you ashamed me, and best of all, I don't stop until Colombia. And then we see the clip of definitely saying, I know you want to be 45 Carol, but you're, but you're actually seven. Yeah, you know, and, um, she's like, look, I just said you wanted to be 45 Carol, but you're acting seven. Yeah, you know, and she's like, look, I just said you wanted to be younger than you are. I never shamed the age you are. She'll shame me. Go woman saying you want to be 45.

I've never lied about my age. I had a 50th birthday party. Just yeah, yeah. Well, what I'm saying is I wish you could act your age. You know, that's not age. Shame because it's not calling you old. Yeah, spoken like a real 54 year old wants to be a 17 year old. That's exactly what you're doing right now. Stop it. Okay. Oh, stop it. Oh, what do we like like 29 now

using stock new lingo? Stop it. Stop it. Yeah. What are you young? What are you? That's it. Carol. That's it. Spitting game. Is that what we're doing? Spitting game? Like, what is this? What how old are you? So, okay, Bethany is like, listen, it's not, I'm not age-shaming. Age-shaming is when you are like making fun of someone for being old, but it's like, Bethany, when you say that someone needs to act their age, it's just passive aggressive, passive aggressive version of what you just said. If you're saying Carol's trying to act young,

the implication is that she can't do it because she's too old. Yes, exactly. So Annie's like, so Bethany, what's your reaction to the allegation? She's like, oh, I got some too clingy. I guess I like so Bethany, what's your reaction to the allegation? Oh, I got some too clingy. I guess I'm just clingy, okay? And Caroline's Carol is Carol. What was wrong with me? Carol's like, it was when we got the card of hate. I just couldn't take it. She is, oh, why didn't you just call me a narcissist last year?

Have you always thought that? If you think I'm a narcissist, why didn't you call me that last year? And she goes, well it crossed my mind Because we were friends and she goes oh, but it's okay if you to accuse me of having a mental disorder and she goes I didn't say mental disorder. I said you're a narcissist and she says that is a mental disorder Oh, I guess you sort of forgot because like in your old age you can't remember these things, huh? Huh? Huh, can't. So then, um, yeah, and then, and then also Bethany is like, you know, Bethany is pushing back on the idea that she's a bully and she's like, well, she's like, well, you know what? Like what's the matter? Like, if saying that she's like unavailable is bullying, then I guess I'm a bully and then, and then, you know, I think this is a

It's a weak list. What have you called this list? It's weak and Carol's like, Weakless I wouldn't say half of those things to an enemy bath and me not even till the when it's to you's me We're talking about me. Oh, goodbye It's just like glitter flying across the stage So then Andy's like I've got a quote to read from Carol's blog and then he reads this big long quote and Carol goes Is there a question in there somewhere? Counselor it's like Andy. That's not even a question, you know, and then Carol goes, is there a question there somewhere, counselor? It's like Andy, that's not even a question, you know. And then Beth, think,

cause I got a question, when did you get your medical degree? Huh, and just got flankled. And during this, like, when did you get, yeah, is it calling me a drunk, this one in any, to Timzley? To round this,

during this proper talking to a house plant at that point. Like, hey, Durenda, could you come back to the couch? Could you stop yelling at the plates? I don't need a medical degree because I have eyes Bethany She goes you said I don't even have a career and Bethany goes you don't have a career You know like literally you don't have a career and You don't have a career. You don't have a career. You don't have a career. And she goes, oh, that's female environment. You said in the blocks, you shamed me in the blocks. It's like, hey, it helps you accountable for what you said about me and I having a career.

And she goes, that's not shaming. No. Like Bethany is so infuriating. She's, oh, so you're just saying that, like, I have a B movie and then this show, not the apprentice. Where was that? Well, I think Carol was just like, really, I think she hit her stride at this point because I have a B movie and then this show not the apprentice Where was that? Well, I think Carol was just like really I think she hit her stride at this point because she didn't back down from anything

She said in the blog. She said she was holding Bethany accountable for bullshit. She was saying on TV She wasn't just like saying nasty things for the sake of it She was you know very self assured in a way that Bethany was not and you know again I have been on Bethany's side and I have felt like, you know, I, I, I really do, I actually still do empathize with the hurt that Bethany feels, but I feel like in this case, she did not handle herself well. She did not make her case. She looked childish. And Carol just kind of just, just clean the floor with her if you ask me. Yeah, Bethany is just an asshole and she didn't look like less of an asshole after this.

Yeah, but she did treat, she did work. Her trying to trip up Carol did work because Carol got some points out, but for the most part, it just looked like she was the one yelling because one smart thing Bethany did learn to do this year is to just stay calm. She stayed so calm, I've never seen her like this. She just sat there and nodded and smiled and so she would say horrible things and like taught people but she stayed calm So it just makes Carol look for now For now, you know exactly but it and it was sort of funny because she still managed to promote herself

She was like, you know what? You know what? I do have a career. You know what? I was a natural food chef long before it was a category for people like your boyfriend, okay? Okay, oh there's a dig And she goes, oh, hey, I had a careerany, and I'll match my resume to years any day. She goes, oh, really? Let's talk about the current era. Okay. How about let's talk about a career right now? Okay. Update you have linked in, loser. Yeah, I thought that was also like unnecessary for Bethany, because Carol has had a career and she's been successful. And like, like wildly successful. You know, we forget, but I mean, her first book was a huge success.

She made it on to Oprah, which of course is the high benchmark. She was a journalist, you know, she was a journalist. You see news, that's not made up. It wasn't like when she went, we make fun of her talking about Afghanistan, but like, it's not like you just casually go to Afghanistan, you know, because you're in some like, fufy job. You know, that's like, you don't get sent there just on a whim, you know, because someone like you're privileged

and someone, you know, put you in a position. Things that Bethany says to Carol are things that, like you were never my friend, you know, because the things that Carol is saying to Bethany is all reactions to things that Bethany says. It's not like you're nothing, you're brand sucks, you know, you don't know what you're doing, your career's worthless. Yeah, I did like, the stuff that Bethany is saying is really mean.

It's like, if you ever thought that, why were you ever my friend? Exactly, and I could think my career means nothing because it was a long, you know, and the while ago. I did like that. Again, when Bethany's just like, being like savage about Carol's career and Carol's like Well, if that's female empowerment you can have it you and your brand which I liked because it's like a shut up about skinny girl But the truth is what what probably happened was I do think that that Carol probably grew a little distant from Bethany's you probably acted a little too cool for school and that's like a trigger for Bethany as it probably would be for me and

Bethany starts to like freak out. But the way that Bethany freaks out, she doesn't handle herself in it. It doesn't handle it in a healthy way. She gets like neurotic. She sends a million texts. She gets crazy. And she starts saying nasty things on TV, not on TV, passive-aggressive. And that just fuels the fire. Because Bethany just doesn't know how to communicate her feelings the way most of us do. In certain ways she can be very open and like very relatable and she can say things that are like she's saying in a way that do feel very relatable but I feel like when she is in her emotions she doesn't communicate well. So she creates, so her response is like very extra, sort of like Durinda to Luan and now Carol's just defending herself against

that and reacting to it and it's just a disaster. Well, Bethany did express her feelings. I mean, in all those texts, it's very clear. Bethany does express her feelings. She says exactly. Exactly. It's just that if she doesn't get her way, she acts like a fucking baby and it's like, oh, okay, you're going to say that you need a break or you need time away from me.

Fine, I'm going to try and bring you down. Yeah, exactly. You know, which is totally what she did. And it's like, oh, okay, you're gonna say that you need a break or you need time away from me fine I'm gonna try and bring you down. Yeah, you know, which is totally what she did and it worked Well, that's what I'm saying. She can't handle like she can express in some way she can express herself But sometimes she doesn't express herself in a way that the other person can hear it You know, and that's part of part of being a communicator It's a meeting room, you know, just if she doesn't get her way she loses her fucking mind yeah so then so Carol tries to explain she's like Bethany people have careers that last a lifetime sometimes they pivot into something else and then they pivot into something else and she's like you're the one who brought it up not me Carol and Romana goes actually you did

Bethany I mean Texter was that a Blommo and a camp because you're not Blommo like me yes I'm, cause you're not Blombo, I mean. Yes, I'm just evil. I guess this is just something being spoken from a pit of evil on the side of the couch, cause that's what I am apparently. Even Andy Poles has had out of Bethany's ask for long enough to say, you're the one who brought it up on the show. It's true.

Exactly. Yeah, and Bethany is like, wow, the thing she brought about me on that blog, and she goes, I was holding you accountable for things about you, to be like, God, I'm more tired after yelling that the man was doing the whole pair of thighs. So Beth and he's like, you bash me, you bash me. I'm like doing Ramona.

I'm like, you bash me. And then Carol's like, and then Carol's like, you bash me. And then finally Andy's like, well, you know, you guys actually both really bash each other a lot on the show, which is actually true, because we just saw it. And Carol at this point is so mad.

She goes, you are so full of shit, Andy. I didn't bash her on the show. And Bethany just smiles so proudly because she's like, it exactly what she got exactly what she wanted. You just went after Andy and you're not allowed to. Oh my God. Andy's face, it was hilarious. She has yours.

I did faster on the show. Are you kidding me? What are you afraid of her too, Andy? My god. And he goes, yeah, I'm afraid of her. And he's slowly trying to hide. Like his eyes got so beaty, he got this look like, oh, this is what the real Andy Cohen is, isn't it?

Isn't it? Yeah. Yep. And it was. But you know, good for her because he's been up her ass the whole fucking time. And it's a knock just to watch that. And I think for the most part, he's been doing a much better job. Like, he's been way more enjoyable the past couple of years at reunions to me. Because he used to not call people out on anything. Yeah, he's. You know, he would, I think I think he's the show that he's most invested in is New York because it's the best show on the network and it's also like he lives there.

He's with these people a lot. So I think he's like invested and he probably is like in his mind, he also feels like he's super neutral and so when Carol says that, he's like, fuck you. He's like fuck you. Well, he's like He wasn't neutral in this. I mean Bethany just she was a fucking asshole. I mean even the Bethany Apologist because Bethany has a lot of people, you know, like I'm I've been an Apologist, but you know I just fight to the death over it, but we're apologist, but we can say

You know, we we disagree with our heroes all the time, you know, we, we disagree with our heroes all the time, you know, but, um, I'm going to my hero, but, you know, but no, but you know what I mean? Like we'll go against, like I love Lisa Vanderpump, but she still won't have the time. I think I know Bethany is, I think Bethany, Abby doesn't, you know, and even her biggest apologists online, like go crazy, like have dare you, you don't understand what it's like going through what she's gone through in her life, like they'll really go there. but even they have had to be like, okay, so she wasn't her best in that moment, but you know, she is dealing with Jason and it's like they're having to bring up every past trauma that Beth and he's ever gone through to defend her.

I get it. I totally empathize with the emotional shit that she's been going through this season. I've said it before on this podcast many times that like I Totally identify with that feeling of like oh like this is a friend, but now they're hanging out with someone else You know like I if anything I probably empathize too much with Bethany this season So I don't begrudge any of her feelings that she was feeling from Carol What I do begrudge is the way she handled herself because that's not how you're gonna like a when the argument or be when your friend back You know like it was she just was like getting absorbed in minutia, she was belittling, she was dismissive, and Carol was kind of like bringing like, no, this is how it is. I wrote this because you were

acting like that. This is what I said, you were being ridiculous, you said all these things, and she kind of like, she came with the evidence, she came prepared, she came with confidence. I think Carol won this round, but we still have another episode. Yeah. But before we wrap this up, remember the other day I was like, hey, can we get, hey, listener spotlight people, can you, can you send stuff to us? So guess what? We got something, which means we have a very special listener spotlight. I forgot to put the music on. So here, let me try that again.

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