Watch What Crappens - RHONY Part 1: Jenna-rational Trauma

Episode Date: September 12, 2023

This week on The Real Housewives of New York (S14E09), the women badger Jenna into sharing tough memories. Then it's off to selfies on the beach with a dollop of embryo story shaming.Watch the recap here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/89131929See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Watch what crap is watch what crap is who cares what happens when there's so much that crap is What Kids, what happens when they're so out of rabbits? You're a crap. Oh, but you don't really know how to do that. Kids, what happens when they're so much in rabbits? Hello, and welcome to Watch Your Crappins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, and joining me today is the beautiful and just all around lovely person, Ronnie Carrham.

Hi Ronnie, how are you today? Oh, so good. How are you doing, sweet guy? So good to be back here. Watch what crap ends. I'm actually not doing well because I feel like last week, I shared about how I had COVID

and I'm like, I'm sharing, but what are you sharing, Ronnie? I feel like you're not sharing anything with me right now. Oh my God. Um, well, I do have spots. I'm bald. But you're not sharing. I'm very, but I'm not sharing it. But that's not you guys bathing. Well, we don't know anything about you, Ronnie. I'm like literally so traumatized. Okay, welcome to Real Housewives of trauma and selfies. That's what the show is.

All they talk about on this show is how they're traumatized by some shit. And by the way, I'm not accusing this of being fake trauma or fake shit that you're sad about. They've all got real stuff to be traumatized by. But for fuck's sake, man, every episode is trauma. And then they cry and then they go take selfies for literally an hour. What the hell? Yes, we're talking about Real Housewives of New York. drama and then they cry and then they go take selfies for literally an hour. What the hell?

Yes, we're talking about Real House wasn't New York. And by the way, I did have COVID last week. I tested negative this morning. Woo, woo, woo. So thank everyone was so sweet. A lot of God, not a lot of nice little messages or comments on social media. So thanks everyone.

I'm mostly out of an email here, a cough here or there, but it was the pretty rough week for my throat. It was a very sore throat experience last week, but I'm back. The Lord knows you beat that thing up enough, not only this, but in your private life. Woo! And you needed a break.

And also, you know what, your COVID, your trauma, you went through your trauma, I guess what, you talked about it openly with us. Your friends. I were open and honest. And then you didn't take a selfie, like a douchebag. Instead, you took pictures of a gorgeous chocolate cheesecake that you made. No, I actually was a selfiebag.

You didn't get behind. There also was a selfie. There was a selfie. Listen, you mix it with a cheesecake, and that makes it very important. I did, you know what? Because I decided on Saturday night, I was like, I'm fucking sick of this quarantine.

I'm stuck in this quarantine. I wanna like, I'm just, I wanna do something fun for myself. So I made myself a chocolate cheesecake. I'm home alone these days. Dom is in New York getting ready for his musical. So I'm just here doing nothing. So I just made a chocolate cheesecake for myself and it was great. And I'm, I don't know if that looks good. It was really good and I'm just here doing nothing. So I just made a chocolate cheesecake for myself and it was great.

And I'm like, damn it, that looks good. It was really good and I'm gonna write, I'm gonna post the recipe on my newsletter this week because everyone should know about how to make this chocolate cheesecake. So everyone gets subscribed, MBD fan say on Substack. Yeah, you guys come to our extra stuff.

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We just never stop. Yeah, we're constantly trying. We're all about food and content, okay, like, sigh. We're about to. Yeah. You know what? This seems like a great time to make some content. Okay. Let's do some staircase content. Guys, let's do some content. So we are actively creating content. This is, this is meta content right now. So just before we start this recap, next week, we have a crappy hour is back. So come join us. That's going to be at 5.30 p.m. Pacific or 8.30 p.m. on the East Coast in America.

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In case you didn't hear, run video, go to patreon.com slash watch, where crap ends, support it on the crap is on demand level, and you get access to this beautiful video. I forgot to put up a background event, what was that today? I failed, I failed at this video. And that's basically it. So let's talk about Real Housewives of New York, Ronnie, where it's Anguilla, Renanguilla, it's night one. And the women have just,

they're now like walking down a stair, my first note is women coming downstairs, ooh, et cetera, you look amazing. Yes, there's a lot of, oh my gosh, you look so good. Oh my gosh, you're wearing clothes. Oh my gosh, you're wearing different clothes. Remember when I saw you last time,

you were wearing different clothes than you're wearing right now, because right now your clothes are really, really good. Okay. Also, can I just say to this music, this depressing-ass music person, okay? They're still with us. The fucking Atlantis Morissette of Housewives Trixi Monaco. Okay, now that makes me happy.

I feel like you need to give a different musician, because if you say it's... Trixi Morissette. Trixi Monaco. Okay, so who's like an extremely depressing female songwriter, singer Sarah McLaughlin who I also love or Tori Amos or Trancy Amos Cole does that make sense Tori Tori Tori monical I Think we've always got to keep the Trixi right Trixi. Oh, depressing. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, there's different names for tricks. Billy Eilish is kind of depressing. She's always like,

Eilish cool. Okay, so this is Trixie Eilish cool. Or since it's Bravo Eilish cool. Good color Eilish cool. She is so depressing. I swear to God, would you fucking lighten up? Okay, and I get that part of this is my generation. I'm young, first of all, young, young end of Gen X, okay?

I'm on the very babyish end of Gen X. So I get that I'm like an old man on his front lawn shaking his fist at heaven now. I get that I'm like that, okay, I admit it. But a lot of this is me just saying like, this generation literally needs to stop crying every five minutes I can't take it like even the songs in the housewives music is this sad? Okay, this is the song I've been out on the ocean

Searching for something that ain't blue What the fuck are you doing on the ocean then looking for something that's not blue? Of course fucking trixi Ilicle goes to the fucking ocean and then complains that everything's too blue. I mean, you want to talk about somebody from a younger generation. That's it! I'm shaking my fist on a wall. I'm having it!

Tch. Uh, Trixie Ilicle really needs to come up with better content. Okay, it's official. She stopped crying. She was like, Sige and Fussum, Tindanine blue. Wait was like, I'm gonna do some content here. I can really love that wave. Anybody?

I have this a good wave. I look at that turtle. That's nice shell. She sells shells. So you're my note. Night one, woos as people come downstairs. Yep.

Aaron, are you wearing underwear? And then Si says, No, should I? I don't have time for underwear. So by the way, I also had a revelation about Aaron. And by the way, I'm not gonna, I'm trying actually really, believe it or not, I'm really not coming today from a space of like,

fuck this or anything, because I actually did enjoy this episode. And I'm not trying to be full of Venom or whatever, but I realize who Aaron reminds me of on the season, she reminds me of Andrea from season one of Melbourne, sort of like this bland villain energy, you know, where Andrea was amazing, wasn't she? Andrea, but she was, I mean, she was amazing as a villain.

That's true. And then, but she's only like, but she's sort of a blandly villainess. You know what I love? The spirit of nature. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, that was New Zealand. She was amazing. No, I'm talking.

Andrew was the one who's like, can I give you a little voice? I just want to give you a little voice. And Gina hated her. And she just was like, blandly villainous. And so I kind of feel like that's Aaron's energy a little bit So that's real housewives of Melbourne you're talking about. Yeah Melbourne

Let me see Andrea Andrea's one I love that shows one of my all-time favorite housewives I know they need to really and I'm wondering why remember her because she's only one Andrea Moss. Oh, yes, yes, oh, can I give you a little little voice? A little little friendly voice? You should make a look at her. Her business is called Liberty Bell Skin Scena. What is that? Liberty Bell? Isn't that the oldest cracked ass bell? Like, that's the

most cracked bell I've ever seen. And what is she talking about Liberty Bells in Melbourne? It has no... Who wants to look like the fucking Liberty Bells? Andrew, literally the worst bell you could've chosen. Literally the worst. Can we get like motel six, like reception bell? I mean, at least that one's smooth, that's a little rusty.

It's like calling, it's like saying Venus Demylo will stupidity surgery. It's like, but she has the worms. Come to Venus Demylo where we give you a high five. Like wait a minute. Mona Lisa threading, it's like, but she doesn't have. Mona Lisa teeth work. Well, I guess that would make sense. Hey, do something that Mona Lisa never got to do Open your mouth when you smile

Michelangelo David's penis enlargement center Boxing Helena roller blades Moving into more of current art For the 90s. I don't know how I just jumped to 80s Cheryl and Finn references but hey listen, it's Monday. Okay. So anyway, they've come down to staircase. Aaron is dressed in Ashley Madison print. Like she's wearing, what are you wearing? This is, come on, you're on the beach. Loosen up, lighten up a little bit. Enjoy yourself.

By the way, I'm also not coming from a fuck this show. I really, I'm not, I'm coming from an old first. I feel, and also I don't care. I'm not explaining myself if I am coming from a fuck this show. I'm not, I'm really a mom. I'm coming from an old first. I feel and also I don't care. I'm not explaining myself if I am coming from that place. Okay, I'm not apologizing for it. I'm just saying I'm not, but last week people were like, oh my god, Ronnie so mad. You know why?

That's how I get joy. I had so much fun last week with the episode. Plus also I was feeding it. Cause I was coming from a place of COVID and I was like, you know what? Fuck everything right now. So I was definitely like fanning flames of rage. I felt like I felt so good. I mean, I really left Monday like, oh my god, that was amazing.

We're winning the Nobel Peace Prize. I generally thought the first like 25 minutes of this episode or 30 minutes of this episode were we're actually really good. And then it was just like hanging out on the beach. But so the women, anyway, they're coming down the stairs still, so Uba is, so Uba's watching. Literally as long as we've been talking so far. That's how long.

That's how long it took them to compliment each other coming down stairs. Because basically, the real housewives, the real housewives shows fall into two camps. There are the walking down the staircase going, woo, up shows like Beverly Hills. Beverly Hills. This show, Dubai, a little bit Atlanta.

Then you have the shows that are just like pure camp ridiculousness, Salt Lake City, New Jersey, Miami. And so this show is just a woohoo coming down the stairs show. And I just have to- It's a woo show. It's a woo show. It's like don't you wanna be like these women? Aren't you excited to be like these women?

Aren't these like fabulous women kind of shows? So. Speaking of, Uber comes down and she's like, oh guys, I'm bringing my mug from the house. I'm so wacky. I'm bringing my mug from the house. This is a mug that belongs in the house. I don't even care.

I'm bringing it. And then someone goes, oh, that's very, I think it's maybe size. She's like, oh, they say it. That's very like Rihanna because she always walks out of restaurants with a glass. I'm like, that's also Ben Mandelker in Las Vegas. I mean, like, or any, or Pam on vacation in Vegas with her six foot long beer bomb thing walking down the street that she got at Jimmy Jimmy I was gonna say Jimmy Hoffas but Jimmy what's the space you just died Margaritaville Jimmy Buffett's Margaritaville

walking down to the MGM so I love that Rihanna does that and who but he does too she's like oh yeah I'm just like Rihanna you know what even Rihanna has a heart in her name because she's hilarious and wacky like me Aaron somewhere somewhere saying, what's Fenty? I've never even heard of Fenty. Is it like a fence? Is it tea? I don't get it. Like it's confusing to me. When I heard it, when I first heard Fenty, I thought it was like Fenty spelled wrong.

This true. I have to admit it. Because while I'm admitting to being an old person, that is definitely one of the things that I got schooled about a long time ago. Sorry. Wow. It's all coming out. Where's a Rihanna golf polo?

Where's that? Where's C? There's nothing I can buy. Is there a Kirkland brand Costco-ass golf shirt from Fenty? There's not. So get off my ass. Uh, so, um, I'm really glad he came out of the Fenty closet there. That was a moment of vulnerability. And thank you for sharing because I feel like I feel like this is the real Ronnie now. I feel like

you've like really shared. So I mean old Navy was fun for a long time guys, but now I am old and I feel attacked every time I go there because I like oh, you know, just yeah, just Navy. You're like, it's not a good idea. Of course, young Navy, you know? Yeah, just Navy. Young Navy. I'm a mission Navy. Helping onto youth Navy. Speaking of holding onto youth, so now the woman all climb into the van to go off to dinner

and just like, ooh, I smell a pot. Does anyone smell a pot? And it was like, oh, it might be a raccoon or something. I think it's a raccoon. And then they're like, oh, she means skunk. So then, just like taps the driver a raccoon or something. I think it's a raccoon. And then they're like, ah, she means skunk. So then Jussle taps the driver on the shoulder or something, and he says, excuse me, person, pull a person. Do you have skunks on this island?

It's like, no. Just terrible tourists, specifically in this van. Yeah. So they go over what they're going to do tomorrow. And it's like, what's the plan tomorrow? And so I was like what they're gonna do tomorrow. And it's like, what's the plan tomorrow? And so I was like, we're gonna need to be each, we're gonna have breakfast, we're gonna go to lunch,

we're gonna go to dinner, then we're gonna have a snack, then we're gonna go buy the McDonald's here. Like it's the same as what we're from. We're going to McDonald's and then Quilla. I mean, this is such a side vacation. You know what I like to eat, okay? My idea of vacationing is food,

relax, food, snack, relax, food. How dare you! Okay, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna just woo-size, they say, as Gigi. Go nessa. So, um, she loves food, guys. That's her thing. She just loves food. So they arrive at this, Okay, so they show up at this beach shack It's really cute beach shack like a Caribbean beach shack. It's nighttime. Just like picnic tables and everything It's it's like fun. It's beaching everything and they are so like half of them are so overdressed like Jenna's dress perfectly for it. She's got a nice long kind of flowy dress and little jean jacket like some of them are dressed like chill But like jessil is in this like big red couture thing. And Sigh is in like a couture thing,

or maybe not couture, but like definitely like not beat Shack vibes. I'm like, do you? This is how it's, I don't wanna see people in shorts and jeans and shit. Bring me your crazy clothes. I mean, it's on the one hand, it's hilarious, right? Because they spend all this time getting dressed,

they do a walk down the staircase fashion show, and they're just going to a beach check. Yeah, you know. They don't go to one place here that's not a picnic table with picnic benches. And this place is special though, because it's called the Sunshine Shack, which I feel like you can only work at this place

if you're a bitter asshole. I mean, I feel like really nice people can't work at some place called the Sunshine Shack. You know, they need something a little less on the nose, but Leon, the server seems very nice. He's like, we have a special drink for you tonight. The Sunshine Shack Special SSS. It's like that's okay. So now you're homophobic too, because that was hard to even repeat. The Sunshine Chak Special. Sunshine Chak Special. Sunshine Chak Special. SS. It's like your drink is my disappointment. SSS also stands for Social Security System in the Philippines. So it has a very bureaucratic undertone.

So I looked at SSS because I was like, I'm pretty sure that stands for something. Sometimes tax special. Yeah. Sunshine, Shack. Sunshine, Shack special. Well listen, when you're at the beach, you know what, you know what,

you know what, the real home of tongue twisters is the beach. I mean, she sells, she sells seashells at the seashore. So it's like- Seashore is the seashore. It's a seashore. It's a seashore. It's a seashore. It's a seashore.

This really is bait for she- Can I have one each of a Suntank special? Hi, I'll have one. A seashore. Hi, well I'm she- I'm not working at the Suntank special. The Suntank special? I'm she-

Hi, I'm she- Suntank. Hi. The Sunshine Shark. It's just like a video. If you like the Sunshine Shark special from Tina Shea. Hi, I'm Tina Shea. And I'm at the Sunshine Shark. Welcome to Tina Shea's Sunshine Shark.

If you would like one of our margaritas, please ask your server Leon. Thanks. Thanks. So, Uba and Jenna order with no alcohol and, um, Aaron's like, yeah, and then you could do the other four. Really sexy and really strong. Non virgin.

So, um, Uba, how dare you accuse me of being a non virgin on the night I'm renewing my vows. Like, what are you calling me a slut in my own vowel? She just, Aaron just turns to Leon and goes, cackling hags. So the land. So, Uba, she's like, I've been on shock special. What?

So everything else is not special. So, um, Uba says that the lamps in the decor remind her of home. And she tells a story about how her mom, um, Ubus says that the lamps in the decor remind her of home and she tells a story about how her mom, um, didn't have any money for oil growing up and so they would just go to bed early at night and then all the women go, aw, that's sweet. I'm like, I don't think the point of that story was to be like, isn't that so sweet that they went to bed early because they had no money. I think it's like, oh, that's right. I'm not oil for the lamps. It's like, oh my God, that's huge. It's story. It was hilarious.

It was so funny. Isn't it funny? Our mom was so desidue, they literally didn't have the money to keep the lights on at night. That's so sweet. And Brynn's like, that is so sweet. You know, I've never been to Africa before. And Ube says, yeah, well,

there's don't think about what they show you on TV. Because on TV, they just show you a kid with this big stomach. That's not Africa. Africa is the shit. I was like, okay, first of all, can we leave the little kid with the blood, stomach alone? Do you think that kid is not going through enough shit in life

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a lot on the show, but we have complained that we don't know what Brynn does. And Brynn got into a dust up with, I don't think we've called her a hoe though, have we? No, I don't think we've called her a hoe though, have we? We've not. I don't think we've speculated that she's, I don't think we've speculated that she's like a high class hooker or any. Maybe at one point we made that joke, but to be fair we make that,

I think about every housewife at some point in their tenure. So that's like welcome to the club. And literally every game. But an Instagram account is a Bravo and Botox. Go follow Bravo and Botox. Yeah, they made a joke, I guess, about like, what is Britain doing? They were doing Twitter Roundup.

So they were taking tweets from around the internet and they were posting them as a Roundup, you know, in their stories. And a couple of them were like, wait a minute, what does this chick even do? And one minute she's talking about a Saudi prince, and the next minute she's in like a car with like a Bentley with like an old Hugh Grant type,

it's giving sugar baby, or it's giving seeking arrangements or something like that. So then Bren wrote into them, and she went off on them basically. She DMs them, went off, and was like, how dare you call a woman a whore? And I'm not a, you know, went off on them,

which, you know, listen, if we have the right to say stuff as commentators, then I feel like people have the right to say things back. I will say, not cool to insinuate someone's a hoe. On the other hand, you're a housewife now. Like it's gonna get way worse. You guys have to just not listen to anything about you and stop reading about yourselves.

This is the rough and tumble world of real housewives, guys. Okay, you're gonna get your feelings for literally every day, stop it. But well, don't listen to this. Yes. Don't read the Instagram. But what's interesting though is that Brynn also posted that she had sent her bio into Bravo. She claims she's sent her bio into Bravo like several times showing like all the things that she has done and that Bravo has not

put up on their website. So sort of saying that Bravo was done her dirty, although that doesn't explain her, her Spartan, um, linked in. So there was she posted, she posted, She posted because we've been referencing this LinkedIn and I couldn't find it to actually read it but Brin she posted it herself in defense of herself. She said the other crowds miles are so that's five ohs in case anyone's counting heavy on both their professional pass and future ambition. I'm proud of my career history, so sort of feel like I'm doing myself a disservice by omitting my career entirely and or deluding it to one professional title. Okay, and then she posts her about me thing that I was referencing from her LinkedIn.

Brin Whitfield has a wealth of experience working on award-winning campaigns for global brands. Huge dash. Managing and executing strategic media relations programs for clients including Shell Oil, Euna Lever, Johnson & Johnson, and 1.7 billion E-commerce scale-up and tech unicorn assembly. With Field's career highlights include working on the BP Deepwater Horizon Gulf Oil Spell. Wow, you're hired. Why didn't you open with that? Why do I have to get the paragraph too?

Well, look, is anyone talking about that oil spill anymore? I don't think so. Looks like she did a good job. But I love that she went from, too. The working on the BP deep water horizon golf oil spell. I caused that. I was playing. I was playing. I was playing.

I was playing. I was playing. I was playing. I was playing. I was playing. I was playing. I was playing. I was playing.

I was playing. I was playing. I was playing for the massively award winning massively award winning. Okay, come on. Who wrote this free? Did AI write this playing a pivotal role on the PR team responsible for the massively award winning dev trademark beauty sketches campaign, which was the recipient of the Can Gold Lion Award for best integrated campaign led by PR. Okay, that's quite a sentence. The first ever commercial that featured an oil spill getting a dovetail makeover. Oh. We asked Pots oil spill.

We asked Pots oil spill. The oil spill and into soap. I would have loved to see one of those port seagulls that was covered in oil, just like, you know what, I'm proud of my oil slick. I'm just gonna put a little conditioner in it and go on with my dead. Hi, everyone, this is Brin Whitfield.

I'm representing the oil spill. Look, it's just like, it's actually kind of sexy if you think about it. It's like the ocean is like now kind of like slick and shiny and like it feels really good. So I can think all the fish are really happy and like, I don't know, like I was engaged to it for a moment, but I just had to run away. By the time I was finished, all of those oil slick covered fish had blonde wigs on and they were all together.

Do you remember that campaign? No, my friend was in that campaign and I want to tell everyone this, well, I don't know why I got very, I got very impassioned all of a sudden. My friend was walking. You sure did, I love it. It's because my friend was walking on the street and someone walked up to my friend, Jacqueline. And it was like, you would be perfect for our dove campaign.

And she actually, they gave her a card, she looked into it, and she wound up being in one of those commercials. So like those really are real women. Like my friend Jacqueline was in that campaign. Oh my God, I love it. Exactly, I'm always sharing that with excitedly to be, just not to say like, oh, my friend was in it,

it was more to say like, it really was real women. I can confirm it was real women. People will pretend you're's pretty cool thing. I would have that on my LinkedIn. Now why don't we have real housewives of Dove commercials? How about that? Okay, so she goes on to say she also did

Zycam stuff and blah, blah, blah. And then the third paragraph is, amid West Native, Brind graduated from Purdue University with the Bachelor of Arts degree in rhetorical advocacy. The fuck is that? Well, you just did it right there. You're literally just it is. It's rhetorical questions. What the fuck is that? I know how to ask a rhetorical question. That's a literal question now, because I don't know what it is. Ritorical advocacy. All right, let's just play devil's advocate. So I like to think that they're all Brandon. They're like brin.

We heard you're amazing at rhetorical advocacy. Can we just have you like devil's you know devil's advocate this? Okay, so we've got a bunch of fish covered in oil. So like wow okay, just playing the devil's advocate. Was it the fish's fault for like swimming around an oil pipeline? Like duh. Was it the fish's fault for like swimming around an oil pipeline like duh? Am I right? Like who's responsible for making signs so that fish know not to go near oil pipelines? Like literally stupid am I right? Okay, just that was just rhetorical advocacy. Don't get mad at me. So rhetorical advocacy so according to rhetorical advocacy is There's a lot of things it seems like it's actually a controversial topic

because the first thing that came up was like a right-wing thing that was like, fuck, rhetorical advocacy. So it's, of course. So like, rhetorical advocacy turned my children, guys. They're growing up a baby. Like, the first thing that came up was like, rhetorical advocacy is license to law.

So I don't know, oh, Purdue University, I think it's something about its public relations in depth study of a particular area of public relations and rhetorical advocacy. I don't know, it's something with lobbying and I think it's like lobbying basically. It's like you are speaking and you are advocating for something and so therefore you're a lobbying

for like- why James? Cause I turn into Carl when I apparently went to school for tour club for CEO. She's also got a minor in political science. In her spare time, she enjoys being a young patron of the New York Met and a member of the Marshall Chess Club, which I mean, you know, hopefully she's gotten better and has volunteered with non-profit organizations,

including the Bowery Mission Schoolland Wheels, one-on-one, and Border Angels. And so over this, on her story, she wrote, also, I flagged my career being omitted time and time again. And it's out of my control if you don't get to see me working and only see one side of me. Take it up with someone else, but you're sure as hell, I'm not going to say gross stuff about me, sweetie. Well, and it gives one of those side kisses. So there you go. First of all, for someone who majored

in rhetorical advocacy and did PR campaigns, I think this is maybe not a great example of your skill set. Like maybe next time, just go on to your own IG and be like, hey everyone, this is what I do. People have been wondering what I'm up to. This is what I do. So I agreed, like, we talk shit, Instagram people talk shit.

So you know what, what goes around comes around, all is fair, but that being said, bring just posted on your Instagram and like set the record straight. Like you have the power, be a rhetorical advocate for yourself and shut up. So you get all up. You know, eventually did. Well she did. Yeah well she posted all this stuff that she did and says what she does and she said also

that's what she's saying. Yeah she said that she works all day but that they no one wants to sit around watching her take all these Zoom calls or work on 50 50 page decks. And she didn't say this, but I read that she can't show her apartment because they won't let her film there. It's like a co-op or something. So I don't know. I don't know why I'm spending this much time on brand like Who Cares.

I just thought it was interesting because it was a big fight that broke out in the bravo universe. Yeah. But it also answers questions that we've had. And yeah, it sounds like Bravo did do her dirty, which sucks. Sucks for her for sure. And by the way, I think kind of speaks to, again, some of the dysfunction on this reboot, which is that there's just like, just, I feel like there's certain things. I don't know, I just feel like some of the emphasis.

We're not getting into dysfunction of the reboot, because right now we are having sunshine check specials. Oh my God, you're right, never mind. No, this is not a dysfunctional reboot. Let's keep this sunshine in this shack. Sunshine shack, sunshine shack specials. So yeah, Africa guys, Africa is great. So Uba is saying, she just loves it. And she's like, you know what, Africa,

she's like, this place may be heaven, but Africa is paradise. And it just doesn't have very good PR. We need jessil. We need jessil to do PR for Africa. I'm just imagining jessil, say, welcome to Africa. This is a beautiful continent, especially because poverty isn't anywhere near it. I told them there was a ban me, sail, and hanoi, and he's all the way across the world. So come to Africa, it's beautiful here.

Come to Africa, well one thing you won't have to worry about listening to is a drivel spewing out of a man's mouth about the importance of fried chicken. Ha ha ha ha ha. No such thing as the fried chicken club in Africa that's for losers in New York City, specifically at the address, one, two, three, pop it lane. So, Jenna gives a review for the Sam.

She's like, oh my God, the Sam does like so soft here. It's like really soft, Sam. Five stars. So now they start talking about shoes because it's this show. So I was like, oh my God, Jenna, are you wearing flats right now? Those are like so cute. Those are like flat shoes. They're like shoes, but like they're flat.

Thanks for your approval. Thanks for chilling the person who's like famous in fashion. Thanks for your approval of her, what she's wearing. I'm those edible, because I'm like starving right now. Like I could totally eat your flats. Yeah, I love to eat. So then, Jessel says to Jenna, Jenna, my best friend, Jenna Lyons,

can we, can I borrow that dress? Because I absolutely have all the subtle things that you have, and anything that you give to me, I would absolutely praise for the rest of my life. Can I borrow that dress? Would you would dress swap? Hey, Brynn, not a wife, swap?

Ho-ho-ho! And Brynn's like, don't even, um, Brynn Wetfield graduated from Purdue University, and she was also has a wealth of experience working on award-winning campaigns for global brands managing and executing strategic media relations programs for clients, including Shell Oil, Unilever, Johnson and it.

Okay, I was just suggesting wife swap because it was like swap. That's all cheese. By the way, I have to say whatever, that was a real BP oil support. Just playing devil's advocate. I have to say my favorite version of Brynn is pissed off Brynn because I feel like that's when she drops.

Like this cute like flirty thing and then she just suddenly like her whole demeanor changes. Just fuck you. Fuck you. That's not cool. I'm like, yes, that is my, that like that I fuck with that, Bren. So we turned from the Captain Warrior foundation. Oh my God.

I mean, we can leave it. Okay, you say I would wife swap. So we got to a, you get to a flashback again at the anniversary party where she's subject with the Abe and then Si is like, that was a good one, Jessel, that was like really, really funny Jessel. And Brynn's like, can we be done with this conversation already? And so now Uba enters the conversation, She's like speaking of the wife swap thing. Say, would you be mad if she made that comment about David, about the wife swap,

and say it's like, yeah, I don't give two fucks. You know what, if she left a comment and also a pork rib, okay, it would go over better than just a comment without a pork rib. But you know what, it's not because I hate comments, it's because I love pork ribs. Can we get some food over here? Jesus Christ, I'm about to eat the soft out of this sandwich.

If she made that comment about David, I really wouldn't give a fuck, but if she asked me to hold up a sandwich from subway with this branding on it and didn't pay me, yeah, it would be really pissed. So, Prince, like, you must stop that. And so I was like, don't ask me. You know what? like, Uba, stop that. And so I was like, don't ask me.

You know what? I'm a terrible person to ask. And Uba goes, but it's just hypothetical. Jessel, what about you? And Prince, like, I really don't like stuff like that. I really don't. And just because she really doesn't, Uba. And Uba is saying, well, they're defending Bryn and saying they don't care, but they're

liars. I'm not taking Aaron's side. I'm taking a married woman's side because I know how I would feel. It would not fly. Oh God, please don't. The one thing I feel like Uber has going for her on this, I mean, other than being stunningly gorgeous and extremely charismatic, everything else that she's got going for her in life, I think one thing she's got going on this cast is she's one of the ones who hasn't seen to take every little thing so seriously.

So I don't like her jumping on this. Like, oh, now I'm offended for married women everywhere. The woman was fucking joking. But I did like, I mean, I did like her kind of just like winging with like an opinion like in the sense of like, not just being wacky. She was like, that was fucked up, even if I didn't agree with it. So Aaron is like, she's like, I so appreciate Uber right now.

One of my fellow, a real New Yorkers. She's such a loyal friend. She fully has my back and she's speaking up when no one else did. I'm like, you were speaking up when no one else did. You were not, man, you were speaking up when no one else did, you were not, man, you were not a civil rights project here. Like, you were not, like ACLU, we're not, you're, I think we need to call on the ACLU

over the stupid joke, okay? Like no. You're some rich privileged lady with a free second wedding. Yeah, there was like a joke that you were not privy to and you've made at this point that joke happened mid-December at this point They're somewhere in January. This has been like a month maybe even up to six weeks a year I'm so whole new year now girl drop it. So Brin's like seriously No, I do want to seriously seriously genuinely apologize for graduating from Purdue University

And also for saying that your party was boring. It was rhetorical. It was just boring compared to an oil spill, okay? Like when when oil spills at flowing out of a pipeline for like month and end and fish just dying that's exciting Speeches at an anniversary party are just less exciting in comparison. So you can see how I would naturally say that. She's like, your party was not boring. And so I was like, yeah, it wasn't. And Aaron goes, thank you, because that was very mean. So I think now that we're getting to know Aaron better,

really all Aaron wants, I think she nitpicks every little thing about situations because she's addicted to apologies. She is. And a different love language is, you know, mine is food. Frankly, food, maybe food laughter. If I can make someone laugh, that's my love language. That's all I want to hear from people really. Okay, just laugh. Her is apologies. She will nitpick everything, but she'll let it go kind of, if you just say you're sorry,

that's all the woman wants. She just wants a sorry. She also loves to nitpick until someone cries. Or she like, she's one of those people that feels like you're not being real until you cry, which is very Beverly Hills, right? So, Brindon's basically like, I said your party was boring

because I just wanted to hurt you because I knew that you're so shallow that if I said your party was boring, that would actually shatter your world instead of you just saying, okay, fine, I move on. So, Aaron is like, well, Edgick adds to his, I was hurt, Brynn says, I was hurt because you accused me of something really disgusting that wasn't true. And then he goes, I wasn't accusing you of anything, which is a lie. And she goes, you accuse me of flirting with your husband, and I've never cheated, and I've never flirted

with someone's husband. All I do is go to parties and scroll through pictures of my new self near other men, which is a totally different concept. And I've never done that. Let alone to a friend, you know me, even though I feel like we all just met, right, as we started filming. You know me, I would never done that. Let alone to a friend, you know me, even though I feel like we all just met, when that's me started filming.

You know me, I would never do that. Well, this is so silly too. So they're both being silly here. I think obviously she was flirting, but in a joking way. That's her stick. Like she's always flirting. She's gorgeous.

She's hilarious. She's a flirt. She makes 40 jokes at the wrong time. So to say I wasn't flirting is silly. It's just a joke. All you have to say is I wasn't flirting a silly, it's a joke. All you have to say is I was just joking. Okay, I would never seriously try to steal your husband. And Aaron has to stop joking like she really cares

because nobody really cares. Like literally anybody who's seen Brin for five minutes knows that she's kidding, but also Brin can't get so offended. Like how dare you accuse me of cheating? When you make your whole stick is about cheating, you're like, how dare you suggest I'm a sugar baby? Your last scene was like with a guy trying to buy

a 250,000 car that looked like a very sad Hugh Grant, and you brag about dating Saudi princes. Like, you're leaving breadcrumbs to take people to certain places, and then you get mad when they follow the breadcrumbs. Don't kick the rats for following the cheese. You know what I mean? Stop putting out cheese, close the refrigerator door,

and stopping so offended. Like, who cares if you were flirting? Just tell her to get the fuck over. You didn't do anything wrong. You didn't get nothing wrong. But that being said, this sort of, um, this martyrdom is kind of great.

I mean, that's what I've been asking for all season. So Aaron is like, oh, I love martyrdom. You know, it's like, oh, religion spilt off of it. I mean, that's what I've been asking for all season. So Aaron is like, oh, I love martyrdom. You know, like, oh, religions built off of. You know, like, deep learning when I've described that's like my personality.

But Aaron also is like, your friends with Bryn, and you know that's her personality, so you can't be mad when she's Bryn's just doing Bryn. Commissures, here comes one right now. And Aaron's like, oh my God, guys, this is what are you, what are you talking about?

Like I'm just surprised that you're apologizing about the party being boring and you're not apologizing about. She's, I'm not, no, I was apologizing that it was a mean thing to say because I didn't need to hurt, because I did need to hurt you in that moment. I did. And she's like, you're not apologizing for like, hurting my skin. I'm so confused. I'm sorry, I'm like, what's confusing, Aaron?

I'm confused. I'm like, who's? She was joking with your bitch, Narcava Husband, okay, because your bitch, Narcava Husband, tried to tattle tail on her to get her shanked into lunch line, and now your humorless ass can't accept that you're not owed an apology. You're not owed one.

Sorry, denied. Yeah. Move along. And then, Brynn's like, what are you confused about? Because I can rhetorically advocate for myself of Nibbi. And Aaron's like, well, I thought you were going to apologize about divorce, talking divorce, and why I've stopped some making jokes.

Like, that was worse. And Brynn's like, OK, that was inappropriate and bad timing to make those jokes. So I'm sorry for that and then Aaron goes Thank you. So you think those are appropriate jokes to make. Oh my god When she said thank you, I was like okay, love language acknowledged okay, she wants to be people on this mission. Yes, she does But then she still wants more those are appropriate jokes and she's like oh my god

There were jokes and you weren't even there. Abe was laughing and just was like, Yeah, you were there. She was laughing, Abe was laughing. I was laughing mostly because Povit had food on his mouth and nobody told him. I mean, everybody was laughing, mostly at Povit. I forgot what we were talking about.

It was all done in a way that I honestly didn't think that you'd be upset about it, you know? And it was like, well, I think it's all bullshit. If someone said that about your husband, you'd be really mad. And just was like, well, it depends who it is. Because honestly, like, if someone wants to take part of my hands, I'm really not going to stop them. If someone said, if someone came up to me and said they wanted to fuck profit, I'd say, can I borrow whatever contact lenses or in your eyeballs please. And I'd say, here's a bibs that we don't get chicken grease on your chests. And Aaron's like, well, I don't think it was appropriate.

And I'm allowed to have that feeling. So like, why do we have to keep talking about it? Because you won't shut the fuck up. You won't shut up. Why won't you just stop?, you won't shut up. Why won't you just stop? Please stop. I'm like in the fetal position, just to keep you.

I know. I'm here. And Bryn's like, and I'm apologizing. And everyone's like, and I said thank you. No, you said thank you. And then kept asking questions about it. So Bryn goes, yeah, thank you, but you think that's appropriate to say.

And then Bryn, in a real good sign for her housewife's career goes, so I don't get any apology for being accused of something that awful. Oh my God. But actually, first I was like this is ridiculous. There's two sides of the same coin these two. They really are. They get pissed and offended over things

that aren't real to make drama. And it just to makes for the lamest drama. They need their personalities, I think would fit better with better drama, but they're just going on and on about stupid. But I was actually into this, stupid thing. It was so stupid, but I was into it. And because at first I was like,

oh my God, Brin is so ridiculous, now she wants an apology. But I can also imagine that like, if I falsely accused you Ronnie of something like Ronnie, like stop flirting with Dom, and you're like, I wasn't, I was making joke, I was like, oh, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry.

My natural instinct would be to apologize to you for making accusations. So I can actually see where Brin's, I can see where Brin's coming from in a certain way, but I also think like, yeah, the love language on this cast is all about apologies. Who can apologize sooner and faster and bigger?

Yes, and just keep going with it and groveling, because it gets to the point where an apology is not good enough, like you have to just keep apologizing. So now Brynn is playing her same game by saying, I need an apology. And then she's like, oh my god, can we just order now? Really? My god, I'm just eight-winter genna-sho my God, can we just order now? Really? My God, I'm starving. Just eight wanted genus shoes. Okay, let's order.

I'll have the snapper. Okay. Leon is coming back. You're sitting next to her. You're literally already sitting next to her. It's like the quickest delivery of something I've ever seen. I'm one of these shows. So this was the most offensive part.

And I noticed that people on Facebook were really pissed about this point too, because I know I was. And I was glad to see other people were. So Leon's there to take orders and Aaron goes, um, why are we calling him over? We're having a conversation. Lady, this food needs to be ordered, okay? This is island time, okay?

Put that food in right now. I can't, you can press pause on this stupid ass apology dual. She can't. Well, she doesn't want to get food. That's the thing. She will not only not feed people on vacation. She also refuses to let people order on vacation.

This is her thing. Yeah. She like does not want food near her unless it's gonna be her shakshuka. So, so I was like, I haven't been. Her ass didn't get out of bed to make the fuck that shuka. That's true. It's true. It's actually good.

So Aaron is like really pissed at their ordering food while she's trying to have a scene. And so I was like, how do we kill this? Okay, how do we kill this? And Brynn now is like annoyed at Scy. And Brynn's like, you know what? Can you just allow us to talk? We don't need you to referee Scy.

And so I was like, but I'm over it. I'm over. Well, congratulations. Welcome to the rest of the audience. Watching your scene, Si. Yeah. And Aaron's like, I just can't get a word in. Oh my God, you're saying the same words over and over.

You're very offended, Aaron. We all get it. You're extremely offended. Can we just all apologize to Aaron? OK, let's just go. Can we just please connect, can the next group trip be the India? Everyone can literally wear a sorry all the fucking days for Aaron, okay?

Also Aaron, when the words you do get in are like, I'm just like confused. I'm like, this is confusing. Like all her, every time she gets into a fight, her whole vibe is like, you're crazy. So like, yeah, maybe the words words, if you can't get a word and maybe it's because the words you've already put and have not been that interesting.

So Aaron's like, um, grinds goes, just talk. So Aaron goes, I'm trying. I mean, the reason I was being normal with you today is because I know you didn't mean in a malicious way. I know that. That being said, all I'm saying is that I thought it was an inappropriate place to make those jokes

and I heard my feelings. And can we just like squash it and move on? And I hate like now Aaron does this thing like, Hey, what's the big deal? I just said it was it was inappropriate and now you're making the whole thing. I'm like you're the one who walks into the Reese party with a sour face and told us you deliberately wanted to ruin the Reese party the way your party was retroactively ruined even though it was not actively ruined in the moment by the stupid joke that Brin made. Well, you know the old saying, don't bring a knife to a gun fight. Is that what it is? Yeah.

Don't bring a gun to a knife fight. Well, whatever it is. Don't bring a knife to that. Really to any fight. I think it's don't bring a gun to a gun fight. Yep. Don't bring a knife to a gun fight. Yep.

So that's what's happening here. Basically, she has been, Brin has been going about this all the wrong way and now she whipped out an equal sized weapon which is you owe me an apology. And now that she said you owe me an apology, Aaron doesn't know what to do. It's like completely flamixed her. And so now Aaron's like, well, why are you making this such a big deal? Which is hilarious. And I just have to say, very well played are you making this such a big deal, which is hilarious. And I just have to say, very well played, Brynn.

Very good. Yeah, you need to, because that's what Aaron needs. Like a moment, like when, if someone, you have to like be bigger than Aaron, and that way she'd be like, you're crazy. It's not a big deal. I was just saying this, that's it. Also, Brynn was smart by giving Aaron the floor

to have like a little monologue, which was a little monologue, which was a stupid monologue. And Aaron feels like she's the shit. And all is good. So they hug her for the table. And then Brynn goes, sorry, I was just trying to do a Larry David bit and I was bad timing. So they hug and sad music plays because that's the show they only play sad So Aaron goes oh by the way Abe loves you fuck Abe and his Tattletailing little rat ass, okay Abe does not love her

He just tried to like ruin her whole fucking season by running and making it sound like she was like the horror of Babylon coming Not onto him make your wedding. I don't want to hear it from Abe, okay? So oh my god, I trademarked Abe the Babe by the way. You know what I'm saying? I trademarked it, but you're working. Like don't get upset. Just so you know, I did name the oil spill, Abe. It's different Abe though, but if I'm talking about Abe,

it's the oil spill. Oil the beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep And then Brind tells us, you know, I know I didn't start with A because that's like messing with someone's family. That's like something I would never do. I care way too much about her and our friendship and I care way too much about E. I can't stop it. Oh my God, I just can't stop flirting which I would never do. So then size like, all right, is there anything else we need to clear the air here?

Like, what else do we need to talk about? And it was like, oh, someone needs to say I'm beautiful. Wacky. And Aaron's like, Jenna, okay, Jenna, your turn. So why don't you guys just be done with it, Jenna? Because like, the one thing you'd be done with the shit I just started when I turned everybody against you for no fucking reason. So Brune is like, I mean, who doesn't prefer business class over a coach and then it goes, guys, it's not like why I didn't come with you and you know it. Like, did you actually believe I didn't come with you because I said I didn't want to fly coach.

Like, seriously, do you believe that? Seriously, do you believe it? And so I think I do. Jen, I do too. Don't you? I do too and more power to you. The fuck, you gonna apologize? No, don't apologize.

You don't apologize to people in coach. Well, yeah, I mean, I think that she wanted to fly business, which is fine. I don't think it was presented by Erin last week in a way like she was being totally snotty and saying, I don't fly coach. When she said, no, I want to go earlier so I can tan. And also, I really want to fly business. By the way, there can tan. And also, I really wanna fly business. There is a difference between saying, I want to fly business versus saying,

I don't fly coach. Even though it seems like it was the same thing. She was being joked. She was being joked, like, I'm going to get my son, but also, really, because she sees Aaron just looking at her. So I think she's like, but also don't wanna fly coach. Like, trying to be more relatable in a way. But like also saying, I don't wanna like, but also don't want to fly coach. Like trying to be more relatable in a way. But like also saying, I don't want to fly coach

or saying I want to fly business. It implies like, this is what I'd like to do for myself. When you say I don't fly coach, you're saying this is my status in life. And she didn't do the latter. And there's a big difference, but Aaron presented it as if she said, you know, my status in life is that I am a celebrity

and I therefore don't have to fly with you, you know, you pro-laterates in coach. And that's not how it was. Yeah, so I wrote, who cares? So that's where I'm at. So Jen's like, and by the way, that's not to you, that's not really my notes. So Jen is like, well yeah, that wasn't the case guys. And it's like, but it's a big part of it.

And Jenna tells us, I think it's the perfect point, which is, I don't think that anything you say, like post-op on anesthesia should be holding on to you. Like, that's not fair. Like, that's literally not fair. Which I agree. You can. Oh, yeah.

It's not HIPAA necessarily, but it's like, you can't come to somebody when they're vulnerable with a sweetened, thick soup and then use everything against them. I like the genocose. The only thing I remember for my post-op phase was that there was soup involved. Other than that, I have no idea. And the soup was supposedly butternut squash, but Tisa just like pureed shakshuka, which was weird.

But although I did fly business, I get a pass because who cares? That's exactly right. I get a pass because who cares? And Aaron's like, I mean, it was coming from a good place because like we just wanted to be with you. And Jan is like, I mean, come on. You guys don't give a shit if I was on a plane or not. That's not true. See, maybe that's the problem. Yeah, but like it never occurred to me that you guys would care that I was on a different plane.

Then you, I'm adding a period between each word hoping that you guys will get this, but it doesn't seem to be Morse code. Aren't you understanding this if I do it like it's more code? Oh hold on, I just got a text from Emily Hampshire and she says, yes, I do understand it. I guess my celebrity friends hear it. So then, um, a psychus, but you exclude yourself as if like wait, what?

From what she's here. She literally showed up a day early. Okay, I'm sorry. she was not there to sit in the row with you and to watch the art of driving fast in the rain or whatever that fucking movie is. Okay, I'm sorry she wasn't there to weigh in on whether or not you should get the biscoff or you should get the pretzels. Okay, that's not excluding yourself. That is just having a slightly different schedule. And so now, Brynn brings up her big argument,

which is you give us gifts instead of like connecting and Jenna Flinches. She's like, I cannot believe I'm about to get yelled at for giving gifts. So then we see a clip of her giving a million presents to people and Brynn's like, by the way, I love gifts. So keep on coming, but it can't be like,

you give me a dope ship, but then you don't share anything. Like you tell random strangers what your real name is because of your brother. And I have to hear it from Si, and I have shared so much with you. And it's like, I mean, what about everything I shared on Thanksgiving? And like, you didn't share anything.

And like, I don't know anything about your personal life. Should we roll back the footage of Brynn saying, so Jenna, I really wanna know more about you. Like, tell me about you. Oh, that's right, because that footage doesn't exist. Okay, like the way to find out about it, I understand. I actually believe it or not, I understand some of the point, which is that,

like, giving gifts is not a substitute for having like, connection with people. Like, that's a, like, a fair point. But the point is if you listen to Jenna, she has actually shared things, cause we've learned things outside of just her interviews, but like I don't think they really listen. She's more than anybody else.

Like, wouldn't we know about Aaron except that she's rich? She grew up from rich parents and she's in real estate and she got remarried to Abe. Like, we parents had a house in the Hamptons, his house had a parents in the Hamptons and they realized we should get any... Her parents had a house in the Hamptons. His house had a parents in the Hamptons, and they realized we should get married, and we can all have live in the Hamptons. Yes!

Like, what do we know about Scy? We know everything about Scy, but we look what we know about Jenna. We know all of her fucking insecurities. We know her mother's problem. Like, her mother's... She has assburgers. Her mother has...

Assburgers. We know about how they had to grow up in the house how she had to deal with her mother She told us they're right. Yeah, the pain of her mother like what do you mean? We also know she also told them about how she was Outed by like page six or something like 10 or 10 or 11 12 years ago, and that was a bit dramatic for her like The thing is that you can know someone without having to know the depths of their trauma also. I do believe that.

Like, it's, you know, when you learn, when people share their trauma or their difficult past, that of course enriches a friendship, I guess, in some ways, like you learn more about them, but you can still like learn about someone just by like learning their habits, or they're just, there's more to learn about someone than just their trauma.

And like, you know, and I feel like these women are like, unless you've only shared your trauma, we don't know you. Well, it's a form of currency, you know? It's like a, it's a, it is kind of a currency. You see it reflected in all the shows we watch and the people we know, you know what I mean? And just conversations you have now, people take such pride in their trauma almost. And I'm not saying that, and you know, for someone like me, it's been important for me to learn how to share stuff like that. And to like grow,

it's like, I wasn't raised like that at all, but I can actually open up about stuff now that you just couldn't do when I was growing up. It was not a thing. Like, you would get beat up, you know what I mean? So in one way, I'm thankful kind of for the modern thing of just like being able to share how you fucking feel. Because that's huge. That's usually new. And I don't think people understand how modern of an idea that is. And how repressed this world was until pretty recently. So for a lot of it, it's okay. But it's okay, but it's also turned into this form of currency where you're not worth anything unless you are miserable

and you have misery that you can literally share on the drop of the hat. You can't go on a reality show, you can't go on a competition show unless you are ready with, you can't even fuck people on the bachelor unless you're ready to talk about every single thing that's traumatized you

and cry on cue about it. And if people say we need more, you have to do another 10 minutes more about trauma. And it's becoming this like, this inauthentic bullshit dribble. It's just more, more tap dancing that people are doing actually to get fucked or to get ahead. It's like the only way you could do it is to have this trauma to fall back on and it's getting kind of gross.

Well, I think also there's probably an element, you know, when, like you've, what if you've shared like deep trauma, because by the way, like, brain and side have shared deeply traumatic stories and side shares another one later this episode, that's really moving, you know. And I feel like probably there's an expectation of like,

okay, now I've shared mine, now you sure yours. And I don't think everyone operates that way necessarily. And so I understand why they kind of feel like this isn't fair because I just bear my soul. But I think there has to be an understanding that people bear their souls in different times and in different ways. And that there's like value in learning about someone's,

you know, what my therapist always says, like life is full of big teas and little teas, like big tramas and little tramas. And there's value in little tramas too, you know? And like this. You start with a little trama. Like you don't always want to bring out your big teas all the time, you know?

Like there's like little trauma. Okay, like Jenice, given lots of little trauma. So you need like little trauma bricks to build a friendship, okay? And then once you can climb that wall, then you get to the big T wall. But in this case, so I understand why Bryn feels like it's not fair because she has, she has,

bear her soul and like these really tragic stories of her past and the stories of like rising above, et cetera, Baird her soul, and like these really tragic stories of her past and the stories of like rising above, et cetera, which is great. But then, like, but then when she says, you tell random strangers what your real name is and I have to find out about it through Sigh. I'm like, that's like you're kind of making it all about you right now.

Like you want to know about her, but you're like really concerned about your relationship to what her backstory is. And I just feel like it's not a strong point on Bryn's part. Well, two things. I think she's just making stuff up to be mad about because she's on Bro Housewives because none of this makes any sense. I don't think Jen has done anything to deserve the treatment from these witches that she's getting on this. Another, I think, Bryn's kind of projecting because she has talked about how rich

she dates, like she tends to date really wealthy guys. And I think maybe she feels like there is a lot of gift giving because that's how they're showing her love, assuming that she wants all these expensive things, where maybe she wants a deeper connection, and is wondering why she's not finding it. I think maybe there's a little bit of that. And then there's also the fact that Jenna did that, and Si ran right to everybody else in Taddle Tailed. And so you're putting her in a position where why would she wanna open up to you? And especially when she's already shared one little thing

and you guys are using it against her as a group, which is like super shitty of all of you to be doing. And especially because Jenna had shared BTW that again, the page six thing, which was that she was out in, like she's been, she was like, it sound like she was actually really felt burned and hurt by that entire experience. So she's probably very guarded about who she shares information with. And the fact that no one realizes this, like, she actually shared something about herself

that no one has thought to themselves, like, oh, this might explain a lot. Let me create like a safe space for her to share rather than like accusing her of all this shit. Like, oh my God, you exclude yourself. Why don't you share? Like, I have to find out through Sigh because you told a girl the Jenna, Jenna, Jenna, tell you. And by the way, how would the Jenna, Jenna, Jenna, tell you to be like, you hear that story like, wow, I feel like I really understand Jenna more.

No, it's like you know an anecdote. Stupid. You know an anecdote for crying out loud. Hey, so we're going to pause this recap right now. We're going to wrap this one up. This is the end of part one. You good with that Ronnie? Because we're about to be.

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