Watch What Crappens - RHONY: Take the A (hole) Train

Episode Date: July 1, 2021

The Real Housewives of New York head to Harlem, NY where they learn a bit more about the Black experience. Unfortunately, not everyone (read: Ramona) wants to be educated. Are we really surpr...ised? Also, we finally meet Bershan! This is a Crappens on Demand episode, which means you can watch us on camera here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/53141893Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Watch What Crapins Add Free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. Get ready for a double load of Queen of Hearts. It's me, Jujubee, and I return to guide sexy singles through some ronchy blind dates. Cameras off. Voice only. Launching during pride. Queen of Hearts takes Miami by storm, with Daeders' Cuppe from Tampa Bayes, Just Chas, and Brittany Brave to name a few. Follow Queen of Hearts on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to Watch Our Crappins, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just absolutely love to talk about and watch and live and experience and to room about. I'm Ben Mandelker, you can also find me
Starting point is 00:01:10 on the Game Brain podcast and joining me is a hilarious man, a wonderful man. There aren't enough candles to give to this man. It's Ronnie Carram, what's going on Ronnie? Well, hi, how are you? You go home. I'm a dominant candle. Domino's candle.
Starting point is 00:01:28 I'm a, what am I? Well, let's see, I'm just like, I'm just in a blue polo shirt. What sort of candle is this generic blue polo shirt? It has a crappy college guy. A crappy college guy. Sure, the candle. The candle, the scent that everyone wants, it smells like stale beer. It does it has crappy college guy crappy college guy The camp the scent that everyone wants it smells like stale beer
Starting point is 00:01:52 You guys were on Ron crap is on demand if you're new to the podcast That's where not only do we record this podcast, but we also turn on our webcams and you can watch us Doing this podcast. That's what then you can see Ronnie shirt and my shirt if you're lucky Oh,, I can see obviously if you're lucky, you can see Bueller, I can see Bueller right now. I feel very lucky. Um, other way. Yeah, there's Bueller sleeping on the couch behind Ronnie. That's that's that's honestly the best part about our creppings on demand to see what Bueller's up to. I don't have any adorable animals over here, just a red vase over my head. So are adorable. I'm my adorable animal. So you're my pet. You are adorable. You are adorable, man. You're adorable and animal.
Starting point is 00:02:25 You're my pet. I'll be America's pet. Okay. So, if you want to be part of this experience, because we have a really fun time doing it, go to patreon.com slash watch our crap and you can sign up at the crap. It's on demand level, which gives you access to all sorts of things like our bonus episode, which this week was part two of MeraVice Town. We did a whole two part bonus episode about MeraVice Town and we had so much fun with it.
Starting point is 00:02:53 So if you watch that show and loved it the way we did, go listen to it. That's about all for all that fun stuff. Ronnie, can I ask a question before we start this? Please. Why am I being forced a question before we start this? Please. Why am I being forced into indentured Chris Lee to after every episode of, I don't know. You know what? Here's the thing. It is really like Stockholm syndrome because I've been laughing at it.
Starting point is 00:03:17 And I only, you know, I only watched the first two minutes of it because that's all they really show and I'm not putting that shit on my DVR. Okay. I've got enough crown on there. But the, and it's just, it's like so scripted and stupid and terrible. But you know, you watch it enough times. It's like I'm being sit there and being kept prisoner. And then I'm like,
Starting point is 00:03:34 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. That ma ma. I'm counting you. I do not understand why it's such a thing. And I watch around like this. Why are these kids talking about with their emojis? Mother what are they saying to each other mother? Do people who watch e regularly get upset when e shows bravo shows? I'm assuming e must show bravo shows
Starting point is 00:03:59 I get the sense that NBC universal is always cross pollinating and so so unfortunately, if you're a Bravo fan, you get cross pollinated with E-shit, but the only shit that they really cross pollinate with is Chrisley knows best. And I don't know why I'm with you. I'm like, why? Why do they submit us to this? It feels like every night.
Starting point is 00:04:17 You look, you turn to pick up a pencil and you look back up and there's Chrisley, and they're like, I didn't switch it to E. I didn't ask for this. Right, and I don't wanna to complain that it's scripted because obviously it's like obviously scripted, you know, so you don't want to be like, that is how it's scripted.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Like duh, it's obviously scripted. But learn how to do your appliance better. It's like the daughter walks in, she's like, what is everyone doing in here? Yeah. Well, we are looking at texts on an emoji thing from the kid. These kids, they're emojis.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Come on. We know that the majority of reality TV has some degree of scripting involved. Some is more heavily scripted than others, but what I like about Bravo shows is that I feel like Bravo is really good at hiding the scenes. Your hemlines aren't showing on the Bravo trouser, but E is just basically like, I'm surprised there's not just been an episode yet where they just have a piece of paper in front of them and they're reading old-fashioned news anchors. It's just like their shows are just so janky. They don't even try. I also have a new theory that reality shows where interview subjects are now sitting
Starting point is 00:05:34 centered and facing the camera directly are the worst reality shows. It's like they can't even be bothered to put them like a skew and give them the three-quarter profile. If they're sitting centered and like give them the three-quarter profile If they're sitting centered and looking directly in the camera, it's gonna be a bad show Yeah, well, yeah, that's it's like enough of that But now like I'm in my starting to love it like I don't even know anymore I don't even know but I was laughing on it I refuse to engage with you on this part of it because I hear that this is the angle you're going for and I'm like
Starting point is 00:06:02 I'm not gonna let you love it. I will not, like I'm not gonna co-sign Chris Lee in those best, okay? Rondal knows best. But that's the thing, because it tortures you, it tortures you, and then you're like, oh, that was funny. I mean, that, basically that's why I wrote down the note, because I was, it was on, I was like,
Starting point is 00:06:18 goddamn this show, but you know, of course, I'm too lazy to like reach over for the remote control. It's like work. I was like, nah. So I just kind of sat there. I was looking through my phone. I found myself laughing and I just felt so dirty. It's like if you just like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:06:34 if like just sperm to something gross and you're like, oh, what did I just see on the internet? How did sperm come out? You know, something like that. That's how it felt. I mean, that's a bad example, I guess. It's just like you found joy in something completely unexpected and then felt dirty after. That's how I basically felt about it. Okay. It's a cat-bird. I didn't like it.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Yeah. Yeah, it's a cat-berry cream egg. That's a good way to play. Oh, I guess I could have one of these and then you eat it and you're like, this is good. And then you start reflecting and saying, this is just sweetness, different textures of sweetness with no flavor. And then afterwards you say, why did I do that? Oh, and it's a thousand calories for that little egg. And then you're like, but then next week you're in the supermarket again and you buy another one. And you're like, I know it's all guest. And this has been sitting there in this cardboard box for six months. But I need to have it. I need to have it. I guess. I mean, and then speaking of just like sperm, I don't know why, oh, because we Googled
Starting point is 00:07:34 it this week, because we were talking about Shaza sunset and Ben had never heard the term gizm. He thought it was just gizm. And I was explaining that gism is a two syllable word and that is the Latin root of jizz. So anyway, so sorry for the sprux. I'm talking, still on my head. Yeah. No, it's jizzome. Well, you're right, old. Jizzile.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Jizzile. If it's jizzile, it's going to be the real life. Jizzile. Jizzile. Jizzile. From top shab. Jizzile. You pronounce the j-like of the wolf.
Starting point is 00:08:04 So speaking of sperm, so I was watching Watch Your App and Slive a little bit because Sonia and What's Your Bones Lea were on there. And so I was like, okay, I watched a little bit of this ridiculous, sonious loony tunes. So I brought it down in my nose, oh, what, you're going to play a dick game. Sure enough, they literally play the dick game. Really? And they had a ruler pop up on the bottom of the screen. It's like, who dickacular?
Starting point is 00:08:32 Who's got the bigger winner on Bravo? Of course. And then they would put two Bravo guys next to each other. And you know, you talk about who's got a bigger dick. Wow. If we ever get asked back on to watch what happens live, I demand that we play that game. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Let's get into this show. Let's do it. A big, Roni episode with a lot of cringe. This is, you know what? This is this episode we've been waiting for. We've been shocked. It's taken so long.
Starting point is 00:09:06 We were shocked that Luann was the first one to really stick her foot in her mouth when it came to race relations on Rony with Ebony. But we were always, because everyone was like, we thought it was, we thought we were waiting for the cringey Ramona scene and it has arrived. It has truly arrived everyone. Everyone bask in Ramona's cringey Ramona scene, Ed is arrived, it is truly arrived everyone. Everyone bask in Ramona's cringiness.
Starting point is 00:09:28 But you know what? Not as cringey as you would think it was going to be, because I assumed that it was going to be a big race discussion that Ramona was going to say something stupid, and it wasn't at all. It was just, it was the good old standard trying to get Ramona to admit that she's a trumper, which the producers have been trying to do for years.
Starting point is 00:09:45 The cast has been trying to do for years and she will not do it. And she's walked up, you know, she's almost walked off the set of reunions over this question because I just don't want to discuss it. So they're like, okay, Ebony, you're turn, you know, and Ebony was just determined to do it. And Ramona would not, Ramona would not budge. Ramona was definitely in peak Ramona form. I was definitely cringing. And then I was shocked that it somehow ended like, warmly and lovingly.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I didn't, I did not see that happening. I was like, oh, here we go. But we begin the episode over in Ebony's apartment. She's in glam and she's getting all dressed up because tonight is her big Harlem party that she's been talking about. And she's telling Tee, her makeup lady, that Ramona's gonna be bringing a woman in Bershon.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And then we see like one week earlier Ramona's saying, you what, I have this lovely friend named Bernard Shawne and you know what, can I bring her with me? Because you know what, I have plans, we're gonna say, you what? I have this lovely friend named Bernard Shawne, and you know what, can I bring her with me? Because, you know what, I have plans, we're gonna do that tonight, okay? We're gonna, we're gonna, our plan is to walk straight lines until we fall off them from Vertico, okay? You know what?
Starting point is 00:10:57 I think you're gonna like each other. Guy, really for no other reason, then you both know that I have Vertico. Guy, no other reason, then you both know that I have vertical. Guy, no other reason. Yeah, so, you know, Ebony is saying that she's hoping like the people of Harlem and the culture of Harlem is going to be worth it for the women to be slightly inconvenienced out of, you know, to step out of their little five block radius that they live in.
Starting point is 00:11:26 So she's super excited about this party. Yeah. And so he was like, well, I just know Harlem is a tourist. I stayed in my neighborhood. He dragged me or sent me a car service. Yeah. And I like she's picking out her outfit. And she's like, this is very, very Harlem night.
Starting point is 00:11:43 It has bells leaves, but it's also very pandemic. I'm like, I love that Venn diagram of Harlem nights and pandemic. I never really saw that happening in fashion. I wish that she went with the leopard plastic moomoo that she picked out. Where did that come from? It was like one of those things you put in your car windshield so that the sun doesn't hit the seats while you're in the mall or whatever, like leopard print. Yeah, but she didn't go with that. So then Luanne is, you know, it's got all her free Giovanni spread all over the bed. Everywhere. Like, you're not falling that bad. You will get scraped
Starting point is 00:12:17 by all the jumpstones. Yeah, and I just think she does that to trigger Durinda because you know Durinda is sitting at home like, I got it that one. I got it that one. Hope you're in tune. You're very, you're very, you're very, Durand is new thing on Instagram is to sort of like wobble towards the camera and then wobble backwards. So she has a lot of videos where she's like,
Starting point is 00:12:43 I think she's like, it's like a sexy thing. It's like a wikid neat being flirtatious while I hold some Dan and yoga. Yeah, she does. I noticed that I was watching Million Dollar listing New York and wow, she was on it this week because Steve, creepy eyed Steve, who's always like, oh wow, I've got a I've got a farm
Starting point is 00:13:07 And it's like an upstate and people really love Upstate so so he's got a farm upstate so they had to ring dawn for whatever reason because durin just very connected I guess in upstate so They have durin to come in and she wobbles up the hill like oh look at this Steve It's very nice. Steve, you know what people like? A farmhouse. Yes, they like.
Starting point is 00:13:31 People like a farmhouse. It's like, well good, thanks for your professional expertise, Dorenda. She also served as professional expertise on the big shot with Bethany Frankel, because she did make an appearance at the finale party where the finalist had to create some sort of weird, you know, skinny girl installations and doing this.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Oh, yeah, she's very good. He's a brand right here. You know, it's just like a farmhouse. People like farmhouses, yeah, I use the skinny girl farmhouse. So Leah and Lou are both going to wear satin green. Oh, no, I'll put that away. So she tells us because she's Lou, you know, she's like, well you know, Jack and I, we used to go to Harlem all the time. We'd go to Sylvia's and go dancing, you know. I'm a Sylvia's addict. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Just love going to Harlem and seeing Sylvia's. I just, you could basically call me the mayorette of Harlem. I'm just basically one in the same with Harlem, because I've gone to one place there. That's right. Yeah, just please do us all a favor and don't go there on Halloween. Okay, thanks. Let's save ourselves the drama. To be fair, I did once, living Italy, and I also drove off a cliff in Gostod, so I'm something of a globe trodder. So I guess I really do fit in there in Harlem.
Starting point is 00:14:53 So Ramona goes to pick up Bershon and Ramona is one of those people who picks her side. She's kind of like you in this way, like you like your side of the car. You know, there's people who are like, yeah, I'm going to sit on the side of the car. This is my choice. So Ramona picks her side of the car and You know, there's people who are like, yeah, I'm gonna sit on the side of the car. This is my choice. So, we're gonna picture side of the car and then she's not gonna move. Like, Bryshon comes out of her building and is about to get in.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Everyone's like, oh, all right, I'll go to the other side. It's like, yeah, that would be great. Is she what? I have shoes, I have bags, I have dress, vertical, scotchety of the side. I do have a side of the car, but it's mainly just like it's an Uber. It's because of Ubers because I like to sit in the back seat on the other side of the driver, so I can sort of like keep and I can see there dashboard a little bit.
Starting point is 00:15:37 So I've gotten used to when I get into cars also and also because there's usually more legroom on that side because the the drivers usually on the left side and Sometimes Uber drivers do that thing with a pack their seat all the way up to like the back seat and you're like why Like just take out the front seat at this point, but so that's why I'm like you saying the right seat But you are a Ben's side of the car enabler because very often I'll be like oh, I'll move over, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't, don't, don't move, don't move. Yeah, because I know it's your thing. But I'm happy to move over, I just do it by habit because of ubers, but I just want you
Starting point is 00:16:14 to know, like, I'm always happy to move over for you. Oh, no, no, I'm not gonna let you hit. You'll know I'm pissed at you when I'm like, I'm sitting on this side today just to watch you crumble. Damn it. I shouldn't have even I'm sitting on this side today just to watch you crumble Damn it. I shouldn't have even brought this up because this stuff is supposed to be unspoken so that it has more impact when it actually happens You know now if I were say Ben could you move over you're gonna be like oh my god now he's mad at me You know we're gonna start this whole No, I know I know I know when those things happen. You're not mad at me. I listen. I've dragged you through
Starting point is 00:16:42 Snowy streets in Vancouver. I know when you're mad at me. I know that. So let's see Ramona, you rocked it. Okay, yeah. So Ramona's like, well, you rock, look, yeah. Because how she's dressed. Yeah. And, and, and, and, Prishant, I'm like, look at you six foot heels. Yeah. Every time I see you in six NGOs, yes, Ramana. Bershon is like, Bershon is so large in the life. I am merely just like loved Bershon. Like her energy was perfect for the show. I was like, yes, Bershon.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I think she was a nice injection of energy that I think we needed. Yeah, I agree. I was actually surprised that we have not met her sooner in the season, but I feel like she was, she just was, but I was concerned, because I'm always concerned when it's someone that Ramona sources, you know, like, hmm, like someone who came to us through Ramona is usually gonna have some question marks attached,
Starting point is 00:17:44 but so far so good, at least in these early scenes. came to us through Ramona is usually going to have some question marks attached, but that's so far so good, at least in these early scenes. Yeah. Well, that's how we got everyone, really. That's how we got Dharindo, right? That's true. We got Dharindo. We got Sonia.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Yeah. We got Elise. Also, you know, she still has a perfect batting. Yeah, this is not a perfect batting. Yeah. Okay. So then they talk about going to Harlem and stuff and Roshan goes, oh, she's never been to Harlem. Like, I can't do her voice.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I'm not gonna cry. Everyone by the way, it's a variation of Luan between Evan and Roshan. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna need a few weeks because I was just like so glad to have her that I didn't even bother.
Starting point is 00:18:22 But she's like, you never, you haven't been to Harlem and Ramona's like, no, you what? You and Ebony, you get me there, guy. Yeah. And she's like, you know what, with, with, with, with Persion, she's a strong personality. So there, like so there, ooh. And then, yeah, she was like, there, you know what?
Starting point is 00:18:41 I had never gone to Disneyland either. And so one time I met this really cute mouse very sweet. I was like, okay, I'll go to Disneyland It's like you can only hang the hell Ramona and she she explains to us that hugely New Yorkers You know what you stay in your region and then we see her at the reunion and he's like so Who's penis is bigger? Brooklyn's her Manhattan's or whatever. He's like, why won't you go to Alex's party? And she's like, because of some Brooklyn. And Jill's there. Jill's Aaron's like, what do you think Brooklyn is? Ohio? So then I've been remote, goes, you know what? I don't live in Harlem. So I never go down there.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Like, well, first of all, it's up there up there not down there That's your first problem. You're at like the battery park looking for Harlem So version is like you know what the funniest thing you ever told me I Love your lashes, but they're a little too long for daytime Okay, I think Prasion has met Ramona two times because she told this story here And then she told Wendy the same thing She's like, oh, you know what? You know what Ramona said to me the first time I met her my lashes are too long for the daytime I was like, oh, okay, so you've met Ramona twice
Starting point is 00:19:55 You've like had a very brief discussion about lashes and the pressure said okay, you could tolerate Ramona, so you're hired so Yeah, Ramona's like, well, you know what thatona, so you're hired So yeah Yeah, Ramona's like well you know what that's you know when I like someone you know I say these things She's like well that's when I realize I could F with this girl Excuse me. I'm an a student and not don't get F's okay. Please don't lecture me. Okay. I'm an a student already okay No, I can fuck with this girl. Oh, I'm a good Catholic girl. Okay, don't bite those discussions, but boy, it's an education thing. Okay, Catholic schoolgirls don't talk like that, okay?
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Starting point is 00:21:13 We'll talk about what went right and wrong, what would we do differently? And the next time you step on yet another stray Lego in the middle of the night, you'll feel less alone. So if you like to laugh with us as we talk about the hardest job in the world, listen to, I love my kid, but wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. So, everything goes to a place, a restaurant called B Harlem, and which is just kind of funny, it's so on the nose.
Starting point is 00:21:45 It's like B Harlem tonight. So she's talking to Adrian who owns the restaurant and she's like, thank you so much for realizing this vision, Adrian. Thank you so much. I'm starting to see that she's kind of a phrasier crane. Wellony, right? Phrasier crane. Well, then who's Ross? I, I, we are, we are. Oh yeah. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:22:11 That's not fair to look, Ross is like a sea. I'm not sure who Ross is just, I feel like actually, Ross is Ebony's friend, Natalie. But yeah, you know, Ebony is, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:21 Ebony, it's actually brought up this, Eppity, Ebony comes from the world of broadcasting and there are times where she talks like a news anchor and it can be kind of annoying sometimes. Like it's like, girl, just like talk, like don't like be it, you don't have to be a news anchor at all times, right?
Starting point is 00:22:39 So. She does present this very store, like this is my new story. Right. She's like, what a lovely job you've done with this place the first Speakeasy in Harlem. I know wonderful job. We've done here From the low chairs to the high bar to the purple gym Harlem. That's where it's at. I know Exactly, I mean listen like can we really complain really complain when the other alternative would be like, whoa, look at this restaurant in the basement.
Starting point is 00:23:11 What a great cave you have here. Okay, I'm going to go because it's too creepy. It's like, we get, like, what do we want? But yeah, sometimes I'm like, sometimes her broadcaster side is like very, very apparent. Yeah, she's like, listen, I've had a dose of these ladies world and it's time for them to come to my world and there's no better way than to come to the epicenter of Black Excellence Harlem. I'm Ebony Kay Williams reporting.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Thank you. Yeah, and by the way, this is a giant title fit. She's like, welcome to Harlem night with Ebony K. Williams I know it's little loot like I feel like it's a gala like it's her own gala that she created So she even gave herself a log line. She said it's Harlem night with Ebony K. Williams the spirit the elegance of Prohibition era. I'm Ebony K.. I was like, is this a book pitch? This is a book pitch, isn't it? I just realized.
Starting point is 00:24:08 So she's talking with the bartender, Gil, and she's interviewing him. It's literally like he's a guest on her new show. And she's like, well, you know that tonight is Harlem Nights with Ebony K Williams. Mo! Yes, yes, yes. And by the way, we, you know, we,
Starting point is 00:24:27 we, like, it's funny because, like, we can clock, like, we're clocking her, but let's also not forget that this is the same show that brings us Countess and friends. So this is like, this is like classic Roni right here. So, um, so Natalie shows up next and she, Natalie just always seems horrified that she's being dragged into this show She's always like because you know that it was not easy getting Natalie here after the last time she spent with Sonya
Starting point is 00:24:53 We're Sonya's like Ramona singer only wants to be friends with you because you're black on Instagram Natalie literally got up and walked away and then Sonya kept following her to tell her more. So I was like, I could be home watching Chrissy knows best on Bravo. Yes, because that does happen. But so then we have like this, a new like a, like a, sort of a sub plot here is watching the cast members walk down a pretty standard staircase and they're like, oh my
Starting point is 00:25:27 Sure, it starts with Leah who's like, oh my god, these stairs are like a death sentence. Are you kidding me with this? Leah, didn't you just have a party in a basement last season? I know with like a staircase. That was three times as tall So also I have to I have to give credit because you know what, on this show, we really do, especially me, like if I don't like someone, if someone's on my nerves on these shows, I rack on them to no end. I have to say two things.
Starting point is 00:25:55 One, Leah was really good this up. She was. Much better this up. Green. Two, this is the best she's ever dressed. This might. She was wearing like silver jumpsuit and like a fake fur.
Starting point is 00:26:09 I'm assuming it was fake, but well done, Leah. I don't know what's happened between last week and this week, but my swork. Nice work. Keep it up. I mean, she wasn't wearing some strange like like like sheer wedding train. Like wedding train, like wedding train.
Starting point is 00:26:28 So Ebony is like, well, I love Speakies. I always have. I love speaking, I love things that are easy. I love Speakies, I love rooms that you have to knock. You know, in Speakies, you have to knock to get in. And here to tell us more about it, is Chuck Thompson, Chuck? So then Luan shows up in like a zebra for
Starting point is 00:26:49 Chaplet and a red sequin pantsuit from her show. Yeah, it was very cool. Oh by the way Cruella I didn't get it. Oh, I Just didn't I didn't you know what we'll talk about it another time once you've seen it It's a very important viewing so you should see it, but we'll talk about it a different time But anyway, Ebony is like this is Gil. Gil is from Israel. Gil would you speak on that? And he was like, oh so much long or whatever So then Sony I guess the staircase the staircase of doom.. I mean they're actually like they're on American Inja Warrior and she's like, are you kidding me? Oh my God, I'm not gonna be able to get on get out of here. I mean I have to spend the night here. It wouldn't boobs are out tonight. So I'm just like you can tell it's an important night when the girls are out. Yeah I mean Ebony's cleavage was
Starting point is 00:27:51 Pretty damn amazing and so then um And then Ramona guess there's whoa is doing Elevator is it an elevator is it like an elevator easy like has this work carry? Thought this was a speak easy not walk hard So then and of course and so Sony goes up to the way and is like oh is this Giovanni? Well, of course is Giovanni of course it is and I hope no one at home is watching and is furious at my What do you call this? What do you call this dress again? What do you call this? What do you call this dress again?
Starting point is 00:28:24 Anyone? Anyone out there? That's what that meant. You just hear Duranda all the way from downtown. So then, Versaun is now arrived. And she is just like, she is an arrival. And she's like, oh, yes, I love this. Yes, honey, the sequence, I love it.
Starting point is 00:28:43 I love it. I love it. Yes, honey. Hey, hey, I love this. Yes, honey. The sequence. I love it. I love it. I love it. Yes, honey. Lou does not have any idea how to take care of. And he's like, this is Ramona's friend, Bryson. And the one's like, uh, hello, hello, because Bryson's like grabbing her and kissing her. Bryson's like, oh, and she's saying to everyone, Bryson's doing the thing that I actually don't always love when people do, and she goes, I've heard so much about you.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Oh, I've heard so much. Yes, I've never, so much about you. Mm-hmm, yeah. Amazing things. And so, Sonia tells us, Well, you know, the thing with me in Ramona is that when we're around strangers, we speak very highly of each other, but we do talk shit to our close friends.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Yeah. So I thought they were setting up Sonya being confronted in this episode. Yeah, that's what I thought. Well, but they, they're helping so. Planting seeds, you know, Salem's coming up, who knows what'll happen there. So now they're gonna have a mixology class.
Starting point is 00:29:40 And so, I'm sorry, but somebody else reading Facebook comments today on, I think the Bravo page. And someone, the clip was like, Harlem, or the ladies go to Salem and someone said, that's so rude, they went to Harlem, not Salem. Like they got really upset that they were calling Harlem Salem. Like, oh God, I got a love Facebook. How dare they? How dare you?
Starting point is 00:30:09 Salem, how dare they? So, doing, so Jill is, or is it, is Jill, Jill, whatever. He's doing a, he's doing a mixology class and he's like, okay, so for this, we're going to use Mediterranean gin and everyone's like, you're not gonna use the pump, Bay gin, can't believe they wouldn't use it.
Starting point is 00:30:29 And so Evan's like, don't worry, I'll take that home for you. He's just, okay. Oh, no. I was just saying, ladies, we're gonna have to separate you. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,han's like, we had a long day, girls. I need a shot. That's what I need. And Evan, he's like, Oh, America had a long day. And to hear about it, let's go to Gil. Gil, anything to say about that.
Starting point is 00:30:55 And with a very short word on the list of America, it's killed. Day 19 of election coverage here in America. What do you have to say about this gym flower? You're about to say it. So, Evan used to saying that we still don't know who the president is going to be in staff. And the room on is like, you know what? Give me a picture. Take Ray, this person.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Okay? You know what person who hates bomb Bay, take a picture. So they line up and start to take a picture. And the room on is like, whoa, you know what? Stop, stop. It's really bothering me that it's white and it's white on one side, black on the other. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Mm-mm. Not around me. Not around for a moment, sing it. Okay. Not around me. Okay, I like my groups of people, like the way I like my cocktails mixed and stirred up okay everyone changed position okay you know what it's not that we different colors on different sides I think we just all need crushed mint on my head okay I'm gonna say I don't really understand the difference
Starting point is 00:32:02 in makes but you know what like you know's right, we're trying to have a night of cultural infusion. Meanwhile, by the way, you know the entire cast, all they wanna do is just get wasted right now. Even the people who are sober just wanna, like pretend to be wasted. That's all they want. But they're like, oh my God, some exology class.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Okay, when do we get to actually start to party? So then, Leah's like, you know, it's telling that Ramona is like noticing this and like all of a sudden is the anti-secretation police. I mean, it's like making strides. Wow, it's crazy. And then, Evan is like, well, maybe Sonya is right about something, maybe with Ramona,
Starting point is 00:32:40 it is all about the gram. Yeah, because she's over using her, her like, Rina's slurp too, her. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So then, well, because Ramona is like, you know what, Mr. like, Gilliam, could you please like, do it up and down? Okay, do it up and down. Sure, there's a word for it.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Vertical, for the go, whatever. Do it up and down. But for Instagram, okay. And Leah, tell us Leah tell Sonia what the fuck is Ramona doing so because she's just trying so hard Doesn't she so she's like you know I can see when Ramona's on her best behavior because she's like this Yeah, I got some more to be like Oh Hi, hi whoa, you know what I'm like a a virgin Harlem because I don't think that Ray house even counts. I don't think Ray house counts
Starting point is 00:33:33 Cermona's like you know what I'm a virgin to Harlem. Okay, you wait you don't call it. Well, you don't call Rails Harlem. What does that mean? Rails is a restaurant, it's a, it's a, it's a famous, it's a, Oh, you don't call Rails, yeah, she's like, you don't call Rails Harlem. What's that? What's that, you know what? Let's ask that person, that, that's your name. What's your name? Fatima Fatima Fatima Fatima Fatima Fatima
Starting point is 00:33:58 What Fatima? Pastime Fatima Fatima Fatima Fatima Fatima What? She's calling herself a, Fatima, what? She's calling herself a fat. You know what? Here's the public girls today. They don't have enough confidence. You're not fat.
Starting point is 00:34:11 You're calling yourself skinny, Tima, okay? Then Tima. Guy, there, you're welcome. Fix me. So Evan, he's like, well, welcome to Harlem, everybody. We're going to share my favorite thing. And Natalie knows that my love language is Knowledge but since I can't give that to you gifts, okay? So I've brought you candles from the Harlem candle company
Starting point is 00:34:38 And she's also got stationary on the entire table at every day I'm see every seat. There's like a this stationery. We're like a menu that says Aught of night with Ebini K will hams. Like, she really is like branding this event. Yeah, she's going there. Now, I have to say about candles in general, I usually have a fuck you vibe to people who give me candles. It's like giving me a stick of deodorant.
Starting point is 00:34:57 You know what I mean? It's like, wow, here's a can of febris. You smelly elephant of a man. Like literally the worst. Well, I'm also like, there are a lot of sense that I just don't like, because I don't really like a lot of free sense, or just a lot, I just sense in general
Starting point is 00:35:13 are just like not my thing. Yeah, you don't do that. And also like when you like the candle, you have to think of that person like, oh, Ebony gave me this candle. You know what, I'm not necessarily liking you the same when I'm not with you because I have all my own dramas playing in my head. So like when I'm with you, I'm like, oh my god, you know, you're the greatest person. And then when I'm not, I'm like, oh, fuck them. I wonder what that meant.
Starting point is 00:35:35 When they said, hey, nice to meet you or nice to see you today. Oh, great, was it terrible to see me yesterday? You know, I have like all these like negative thoughts. And so I don't want to have to think of a specific person when I'm out of fucking candle, okay? Can I just, can I just not worry about how much I stink in my own house? That's my question.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I mean, there are, I will say there is like a, there is like a narrow sort of like world, like you know, there's always an exception to the rule. And I think that there are some candles that are like very lovely, like the spa type of candles that smell like lemon grass, things like that. I'm down with, but regardless, I don't think I ever like a candle as a gift.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Like that? Yeah, I don't either. It's very low energy. It's a low effort. Yeah, it's a low effort gift. It's like they just, why don't you just bring me something you picked up in the airport gift shop? Dad!
Starting point is 00:36:23 I want something that's either involves chocolate, but no berries, or is like some sort of like, chronic, or is like a board games, board games are number one, and then like a cookie. I'm a big money person. Just give me a 20. That's true too.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Just be like, hi Ronnie, thanks for having me over for dinner. Here's $20. This is what I get dipped. Ronnie just wants me to first birthday. Once a waiter, always a waiter. I mean, I think there is something really nice about like, like if someone could give me $50
Starting point is 00:36:52 and I can go buy myself my own board game, and that's fun. But there is something like lovely about someone. Anyway, this is not some veiled message to people to be like, buy me board gifts. I'm just saying in general, like, it's nice when someone actually like picks something out forates. I'm just saying in general, like it's nice when someone actually like picked something out for you. I don't know why, like for like recently, Dom bought me a board game. He like went on to my like Amazon wishlist and just got me a board game that just
Starting point is 00:37:15 been sitting on there forever. And I was like, and the box came, the box arrived and I didn't know he had done this. And I have this irrational thing that whenever an Amazon box arrives, even though I know I've ordered something, I always have this irrational hope that maybe someone got me a gift every single time. And I saw the box, I thought maybe someone got me a board game and I said, no Ben, why do you always,
Starting point is 00:37:43 like it literally does not happen? And then I opened up the box and there was a board game in there because I thought it was gonna be I thought Of sandals or something and I was like there's a board game And it was like literally the most delightful thing which is the point and the point of story is All fucking better than a candle Yeah, well these she did kind of put more thought into normal candles because now she's assigning an icon from the Harlem Renaissance Okay, so she's like listen I This much I have learned these ladies know Jack shit about the African American experience, right?
Starting point is 00:38:16 So she's gonna try and educate them through candles So she's like well, I'll start with I'm Josephine Baker because she had fabulous breasts and she was naked for the world to see. Yeah, I just want to point out that the candles had one association, but then she gave an icon on top of the candles. So there's like two layers of it happening, just say no. Oh, I thought there were all candles of the person.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Like, this is your Duke Ellington candle. Right, so Leah got, for for instance Leah received the James Baldwin candle But she also received the James Baldwin designation Right like she explains why she's she's giving you that Where is like Luanne got the Savoy candle like stomping at the Savoy but then she was given someone else like it wasn't like there It was like a Yeah. Oh, I see. Yeah, there was, yeah, just wanted to clarify.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Okay, you know what, I need my lessons to be better structured, especially these ladies. Like if this is gonna be a learning dinner, they're gonna need, you can't just hand these people in outline with like the Roman numeral one and then the A underneath. That's too much, okay? I need a log line here.
Starting point is 00:39:21 We're talking about Ramona here. Yeah, so as you were saying though Ebony when it comes to actually like beyond the candles when when Ebony was assigning personalities to them Ebony is like, you know, I'm Josephine Baker, you know She bared her breasts to the world and then she wound up speaking at the Martian Washington and never performed in segregated audiences And she turned her aesthetic into power She goes so obviously I'm Josephine Baker and Ramona's like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:39:47 I loved your work on picket fences, okay? That's the Kathy Baker Ramona, not just. Okay, you know what? I love your croissant. That's just a general baker, Ramona. You know what? You know what? I didn't really enjoy all of your policies.
Starting point is 00:40:03 You're thought, I believe you're talking about cabinet member, Jim Baker. That's not, is it Jim Baker? I don't know, I've gotten the realms of my bakers. I'm at the end of my Baker references. The priest, the preacher. Oh, Jim Baker is temperate. Sorry. You know what?
Starting point is 00:40:22 You still bought a money for both ladies. Okay, I don't like that. Wasn't there a bigger who is in like the Bush administration? I have to look it up. Carous. So Leah is James Baldwin because he was an eloquent, beautiful, queer truth teller. And she's like, thanks. Like, thank you. Thank you very much. Not really worthy of that, but thank you. So Leah's telling us, so Ebony feels a responsibility to do this. You know, this isn't really about having fun for her or us. Really?
Starting point is 00:40:56 She's like, this is about teaching. I thought that was so funny. She's like, this is about teaching. She's like, well, I'm pretty sure these women aren't really into history. So good luck. And yeah, she gives Natalie W.V. Dubois. No, now, she's like, why she always give me this every time we have dinner with white people.
Starting point is 00:41:16 And then, and then she's like, and then, Luan, you're going to be Billy Hade, and Luan's like, I am Billy Halday and Laman's like I am honored He was a great politician and he created holidays as we all know without him We would never have days off. So thank you. Thank you. I love a long weekend So thank you to me Billy Halday. No, it was a singer Luan. Wow. Please sound please don't tell Luan She's a black lady singer like we've already had enough of the WAN Well, we already have enough with Ramona singer
Starting point is 00:41:49 So so yeah, so then Sonia is like you know what listen? Ebony is a mouthpiece. She's the news person. So of course she's gonna suck the air out of the room I like it and if you don't like, then just don't go to dinner with her. I, that was just a hilarious backhand of compliment. And then, and then Ebony gives her a zorniel hersad. I couldn't even believe it. Hmm. The rise we're watching Wells Fargo stay away from my family.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Roma, uh, Luiand is like, wow, you know, this is very honorable. I mean, this is, I'm very honored. But where's the food? Where's the music? This is not the Harlem I'm used to. I mean what's wrong with all this? I don't have food, am I right? I mean, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:42:35 I'm wrong with it. It's like yeah, you know what, this is formative. But I thought we were coming to dinner, okay? You know what? I'd like learning new things, but I wish you just like, what do you call that? I need an age list, an agenda, okay? I need a agenda.
Starting point is 00:42:51 I don't remember words with age in them, okay? Cause I'm an athlete, right? Ageless, and so Ramona and Duke Ellington, whoa, very scary, okay? You know what, the difference is that I do like Christmas. That's Jack Skellington, you're thinking of, I'm saying Duke Ellington, Ramona, but the difference is that I do like Christmas. That's Jack Skellington You're thinking of I'm saying Duke Ellington Ramona Duke Ellington. Whoa, you know what? You're not even accountants anymore. Now I'm a Duke So and then
Starting point is 00:43:17 And it's the Casseroas actually they're also by the way Leo sister and she gets she gets Nella Larson and everybody's like Who's a lesser known icon? So, somebody say she's a friend of icons. Yeah, she's a nurse. Another shout out to Leo and a librarian and Sarah's just like, it's the bangs, isn't it? She's like, I came from Brooklyn. I actually crossed the river to get here. Are you giving me a second to your icon?
Starting point is 00:43:43 You know, are you saying that I have librarian bags? Just tell me. Did you bring it? So then Ramona's like dinner, okay? I'm hungry. Okay. And she's eating like Sonya's little amuse or whatever. So he's like, where'd mango? Ramona's stealing shit.
Starting point is 00:44:01 And so Prashan is saying how she's like, well I'm just happy that our history and our culture is finally being shown because it's often overlooked saying how she's like well I'm just happy that our history and our culture is finally being shown because it's often overlooked and it's like yes queen and then she's and furthermore we're one nation and I'm tired of this whole divided we're white girls from the Upper East Side you're black girls from Harlem I mean I can't stand it all we're Americans we're living the United States of America it pisses me off seriously we're all Americans and I mean it's like me off seriously we're all Americans and Abani is like, get this fucking bitch out of my party. Abani is like, wow, thanks.
Starting point is 00:44:30 She's like, you're like, I'm wrecked. You're the best. Okay. So she's like, we're all the same and everything goes, well, I don't know that we're the same. And I have to say that I wrote down, how is this only the first commercial break? I know this is a lot. This is a lot. I was about like it had been on 45 minutes And I was also like of course this was happened of course. I'm like, oh my god. I love version on I'm like, oh, all right. Of course this happens to the new person that I am really love
Starting point is 00:45:00 I'm like, oh, she says something that's like very like so I'm like, oh, she says something that's like very like So um So Ebony is like not happy and she's basically like no, she's entitled to her own opinion, but sis No, you know because her whole thing is like and then and then bushon keeps going She's like I mean, I'm saying why black Hispanic Asian Japanese Ramona. We all come from the same Korra Am I right at the end of the day no matter what we all wear lashes that are too long for daytime Japanese, Ramona, we all come from the same Korra, am I right? At the end of the day, no matter what, we all wear lashes that are too long for daytime. High five Ramona. High five.
Starting point is 00:45:32 And Evan, he tells us, well, these girls already think we're the same. And what they need is a better understanding of our exceptionalism and our uniqueness. And I'm feeling very undermined in this moment. But of course, she's going, you know, I mean, I can see that. Well, it's being on Rony. That's what being on Rony is all about. Being under-mind at the moment, you're going to be most proud is when you're going to be undermined the most. Congratulations. You made it on the cast. Yeah. So, um,
Starting point is 00:45:58 Bershon goes to pee and, um, Ebony's pissed, you know, so they finally get dinner at least and Ramona's just like just you know I feel tired, okay? And you know what? I might have to go soon and everybody goes the fact that you even came is so much It means so much to me Ramona and sending us oh, that's right. You have vertigo Ramona remember And I'm just like oh my god, you like so you know me so well and Ebony's just eating like what the fuck She's still so this is a person you can see all over her face. She's so angry that person basically is like You know like undoing what she's trying to teach all these women and so
Starting point is 00:46:38 Remotions like here, you know what cuz Sarah goes um you Vertigo, like what is Vertigo? And Monica goes, here, I'm gonna show you. Oh, you're gonna show us your Vertigo. It's not called Vertigo in French. It's called Countess in French. It's called off the stage. So, so, I'm gonna say, no, no, watch, watch, okay. Ramona and Sonya stand up. She's like, help me Sonya.
Starting point is 00:46:58 So Sonya's like, okay. So she takes Ramona's hands and Ramona goes, hold my hands, okay? Watch me, wanna close my eyes, okay? You have pull my hands, okay? Watch me want to close my eyes, okay? You have to catch me, okay? And then you just flings yourself into the wall Literally, she's like whoa whoa closer. I'm instant vertigo. I found you see know what you close your eyes and you fall down This would vertigo is guy guy. You know what? Whoa, whoa, that was terrible.
Starting point is 00:47:25 That was a terrible thing to live through. You have to leave the party, okay? It's not called Vert estate. It's called Vertigo, okay? So, got on the leave. Vertigo got to go. That's it. It's called Vertigo.
Starting point is 00:47:37 You know what, it's a disease that I want Instagram. Yeah, you know what, the disease, that when you go to a dinner, nobody feeds you for an hour because they're teaching you things. So you leave early to go to pizza, okay? It's a set, a set, a spice girl. It's in the action you get to being lectured and preached to, okay?
Starting point is 00:47:55 I'm sorry, I'm having a great time, but I can't control it. I get dizzy when you preach at me, okay? So then, Brysson and Lear are talking off to the side. And Brysson's talking about how her grandmother died and she feels bad for her. And she goes, you know, I get paid basically. She's like, I survived cancer, you know. I mean, stage four, like four months. I survived, girl, I survived.
Starting point is 00:48:17 And Lear's like, wow, that's pretty amazing. And so they're getting along really well. And Brysson's talking about how she doesn't give a fuck anymore and she just lives her life how she wants to. And she used to care what people thought. She's like, now I don't give a fuck. Ebony's behind her just like giving her like middle fingers, like fuck this much.
Starting point is 00:48:35 So then Sonia is now Sonia is like guiding Ramona back to her chair. It's the inner, it's the inner, you know what? You know, okay, I have to go to the doctor for it. It's the inner, you know, okay, it's the inside. It okay? I have to go to the doctor for it. It's the inner ear, okay? It's the inside. It's like the every part of the ear. It's like the small version of the large part, okay?
Starting point is 00:48:50 So, you know what? And it's stress, okay? You know what? Coco's not doing well. And like I have to, I have to like do this TM or something, TM, and they're like, what's TM? Meditation, okay? I gotta meditate with Coco and make him float in the air. It's like, that's, she in meditation, okay? I got to meditate with Cocoa and make him float in the air.
Starting point is 00:49:06 It's like, that's levitation. Okay. You know what? Two people are fighting. I come in and I'm like, basically, the referee. This is mediation Ramona. Okay, sit. So, you know, I saw this great show where they take a yacht and there's a lesbian who
Starting point is 00:49:27 runs it and they go sailing all around. I gotta do that. That's Blow Deck Mediterranean, not Medicaid. You need... Meditation. Blow Deck Meditation. It's stretchy. Could you imagine Blow Deck Meditation?
Starting point is 00:49:41 Okay. That's quite a stretch. See. They probably will have a blow deck meditation at one point, I've got every other goddamn thing. They're like, below deck, in a basement. I'm gonna need you to blow your eyes. Okay, breathe in slowly.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Okay, one, two, three, do your food. All right, what do you want me to you have as you take a breath in Train it to be distracted by all the goddamn noises in the world, okay? So I'm on it's like no what I got a goke's vertical But I just want to say you know, I'm a perfectionist okay, and this table is perfection This thing of that thing, but this is a cup sitting on a flat surface I mean seriously this is perfect and I'm only leaving because of vertical so that's perfect Yeah, this perfect. They're like okay. Just go know what please tell Katam Rans you made a beautiful table
Starting point is 00:50:39 Thank you mean Fatima whatever. Okay, she made a beautiful table Yeah, so Ebony tells us that this is her first impression, impression of brachan and because she chose to express those all lives matter vibes, she feels very dismissed. And so, Ramona leaves and brachan is like, listen, all right, this is funny, girls, this is funny. All right, now, be honest, me and my bestie were out and she's dating this guy. I mean, she loves and he has a small penis. Can you believe it?
Starting point is 00:51:08 Can you believe it? Would you guys break up with him yesterday? No, I know I'm new here, but let's talk about Bic. Um, uh, Bershon, I just want to remind you that we are at the 6 p.m. evening news and we actually are not allowed to talk about these things until after 8 p.m. on broadcast. Thank you so much
Starting point is 00:51:28 Well, it's funny how they reacted right because Leah's like Like kind of shy like now she shy about penises. Yeah, and also I would love for Ramona to have stayed during this because Ramona Was the one who was like I will not this in the penis talk during Damn out of guy and now it's her friend bringing up the penis talk So yeah, I also that was that was a missed opportunity I also thought what was was a missed opportunity. I also thought what was funny is that like just like right before that, Bershon when she came back to the table, she had her own cocktail. She goes, this is what I call the Bershon.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Am I right? And Ebony just like gives her such an angry look. Like I made a fucking cocktail. Many of you ladies and you're just going to make your own. She was so mad. Yeah. Um, so let's see. so they're talking about penis, isn't something you're just like,
Starting point is 00:52:09 well, you know, four inches, that's not bad. You know, the habit wasn't make a count. And Ebony's like, it is, four is there, or someone says it. Four inches, this is like a penis. And she goes, aw, that's two. And Ebony's like, I need full satisfaction, okay? I need a penis.
Starting point is 00:52:28 And so they're going off about a penis. And then it's over. Yeah, so Ebony's like, well, I know that Ramona was a Harlem virgin and I just wanted you all, I wanna thank you all for coming to Black Excellence night and a night in Harlem with Ebony K Williams. And not Bershon, thank you. And not Bershon. And a night with not Bershon, but with Ebony K Williams. Black accents is part of American
Starting point is 00:52:52 accents, which is true. So now we go to Ramona's apartment and Ramona is with Coco, which is, okay, Coco, I'm going to do a mask. Okay, I'm going to do a mask. Whoa, it feels very refreshing. Okay, let's see, let's time it, okay. Guess what? I'm gonna do a mask. Whoa feels very refreshing okay. Let's see let's time it okay Guess what I'm gonna be what he just ever before after do this mask okay cow-co And then so news giving her basic ass dog pumpkin spice. I know treats and then we go to Ebony and Leah They're having lunch together so in Brooklyn which that's a good friend who's gonna come to Brooklyn to have fun for the rest. I was wondering about right now. I was wondering if they were actually in Brooklyn or if they just were in a place called Brooklyn Chophouse, because I feel like they wouldn't, neither would trek all the way to Brooklyn.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Neither of them live there. Why would they go all the way to Brooklyn the first day, guys? I figured maybe Leah was seeing Sarah or something. Sarah just got out got the scene. Sarah just went to the bathroom. Quick, let's shoot it. Let's shoot it before librarian banks come back. Before a second rate icon is back. So Leah, you know, they start, Leah's like, well, I think Harlan went good.
Starting point is 00:54:03 And she's like, well, yeah, you know, I'm so glad you came. I planned so much intricate detail, you know, it was very proud. Do you think it resonated? Do you think it resonated with everybody? Are you enjoying this lunchtime after an evening with Ebeneke Williams? With Ebeneke Williams?
Starting point is 00:54:21 It's Nesta Titles. We are here at the Brooklyn Chop House. We'd like to speak to our waiter, Dawn. Dawn, what are you gonna bring me today? Okay, she was just married to the mob. She was married to her career. Please welcome Leah. Hi, Leah. Thanks for coming and joining me here
Starting point is 00:54:40 at lunch with up in K Williams. So, Evany's, Leah's like, yeah, I mean, Ramona laughed, obviously. And she goes, yeah, but she sent me a nice message and so needed to. And she goes, Lou was a little quiet. I mean, I guess you can't be all the time, all the time, but that was pretty quiet, right?
Starting point is 00:54:55 And basically just nervous, like, did anyone hate my event, right? She's trying to get it out of Lee S. So Lee is like, well, I mean, white people are a little scared to, and she goes, get it out of L.S. So, L.S. like, well, I mean, white people are a little scared to, and she goes, get it wrong, because yeah, I mean, no one wants to start a debate with you. Like, I'm not going to start a debate with you. You're too intelligent.
Starting point is 00:55:14 And L.S. says, you know, of course these ladies are walking on eggshells because they really don't know how offensive they are. So like, now to find out that they're this offensive, they're just going to be quiet, basically. like now to find out that they're this offensive, they're just gonna be quiet, right? Basically. And then Q flashback of Ramona saying, Donyana, donyana, whatever your name is, I can't keep the help straight, I can't, I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:55:37 You know the help, yeah. And so Lea's like, look, I mean, yes, you're not only a black woman, she goes, yes, but I get what you're saying, because this is my life's work, my studies that I'm bringing out. And she's like, yeah, I love having conversations about race with my black friends,
Starting point is 00:55:52 which I credibly at all the time too. I love that Leah thinks that she's the non-cringy one of this group. That's what kind of cracks me up. So she's like, I mean, it's just so dynamic talking to my black friends. Like we have such So she's like, I mean, it's just so dynamic talking to my backfriends. Like that, like we have such dynamic racey, you know, conversations. And she's like, and I get it, you know, you're very knowledgeable.
Starting point is 00:56:12 And you shouldn't have to dial back being intelligent just because you're around these women. And she goes, yeah, I get it, you know, I'm not supposed to dumb it down. And she goes, but you know, maybe you should be aware of your power because maybe you're not. So she's telling her very subtly, I think Leah handles this really well, actually. Yeah, but she's like, well, I mean, I haven't been, I guess. I haven't been aware of my power,
Starting point is 00:56:36 like trying to figure out what she's saying. Yeah, I mean, I was sort of like, you know, when Leah says that Ebony can be intimidating, I thought that was like a little, like, I felt like that was like a little, like I felt like that was kind of like veering towards one of those microaggressions, even though I don't think it was intended like that.
Starting point is 00:56:51 I think she was saying that she's the lawyer. I think what she's trying to say is, listen, you're very smart. And so when you come with an education to these feet, like first of all, it just, it gets to be too much. I mean, anyone can see that that dinner is a lot. It's like, okay, now here's exhibit A that we're gonna learn about today.
Starting point is 00:57:13 It gets to be a lot. And so I think she's saying, you're very intelligent and that can be intimidating. I mean, that's how I took it. Yeah, I think that she was meaning like, you're a lawyer, you're intelligent, and they're dodo's. But Ebony makes a good point too. She's like, listen, I make no apologies for who I am.
Starting point is 00:57:29 I'm a lot, but you bitches are a lot too. So, she just, you know, she just needs, Ebony is basically like, I just need to know if like all the stuff that I'm doing is landing. I think she just wants to know like, I'm trying to like, you know, enlighten these women, but is it actually working? Leah's kind of like, listen, I don't want you to feel like this is your job to be the
Starting point is 00:57:52 educator. You should be able to, like Ebony should be able to chill out too and just have fun as well. But then Ebony has this feeling of like, but if it's not me, then who is going to do it? And basically, Leah's perspective is, you know what, if anyone has some learning, it's definitely these women, but also everybody could get to know them. And like by getting to know them and becoming friends with them, she could probably teach them as much if not more. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:21 And Ebony says, you know, the summer that George Floyd was killed, she was like, you know, I got sick of explaining to everybody and being the teacher. It's like, find another teacher. But then she felt like she wasn't really living her purpose if she wasn't educating. And Lee is like, you know, you're just doing you. And she's like, yeah, but you have to understand that even if I'm in a group of my black friends, I'm still doing this. Yeah. You know, I'm still doing this.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Yeah, you know, this is like her thing. Natalie's like, oh my god, you know, let me tell you. Yeah, she's like, I'm WB Bob Dubhock again. So then, now we go over to Luanne's apartment. And she wants a PNOTS. Hey, PNOTS, do you want a PNOTS? She's trying to like push some peanuts onto her assistant. This poor Molly, she's like, you're on the keto diet, right?
Starting point is 00:59:09 And Molly's like, um, no. Oh, I thought you were on the keto diet. You're starting the keto diet, right? I could have sworn you said you wanted to lose 40 pounds. Or is that me just thinking that you needed that? I don't remember. P-nuts? P-nuts? Not on keto. Would you like some meat? You know what I've got some fish, I'll grail for you. Okay-nuts, not on keto. Would you like some meat? You know what I've got some fish, I'll grail for you.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Okay, I'm not on keto. All right, swallow this bacon. Swallow it right now, Molly. Okay. So then Victoria arrives and Victoria has a bit, you know, hi, mom. She's got like classic real housewives, kid syndrome, whether or.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Oh, so Victoria hasn't been drinking for a year and they're talking about that and the man's like, well, you know, I love to party. I have great memories of those days. Listen, will I ever drink again? I don't have the answer to that. Probably yes, probably already started, but for me, I would like Sonya to reel it in. She got her, Sonya's just really out of control Yeah, and so they start talking about how they're both sober now Luanne and Victoria and
Starting point is 01:00:13 Luanne basically just apologizes She's like, you know, I had my dad who had a drinking problem and I had to deal with that and then you had to do with me with the drinking problem And she's like my father. I've realized is the river that runs through my Robert Redford. Do you understand what I'm saying, Victoria? Let the river run. Let it go to my show. Count us in friends and it will be the best show the river ever saw. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Thank you so much. Oh man, River! Oh, Dremona River! I also like this. So like, this is, Oh, go ahead. I was gonna say, I'd like just like, just slightly before then,
Starting point is 01:01:02 when Victoria's like, yeah, I really like you a lot more like this. Like this is the, this is the you that I remember when I was gonna say I'd like just like just slightly before then when Victoria's like yeah, I really like you a lot more like this Like this is the this is the you that I remember when I was younger and then we see a flashback of them just like hugging like The way I'm like oh Victoria you walked through a door Let's hug and they just hug it's just like this a random hug and then I think Victoria it comes back and Victoria is like Yeah, but then you went through that period and I It comes back and Victoria is like yeah, but then you went through that period and I got to win and the squad car be like Do you know the fuck I am I'm gonna kill you all kill you all I love to start from wholesome hugging to that
Starting point is 01:01:34 Yeah, and she's like well, you know listen I put you through hell for so long and I'm sorry. I made so many mistakes. I love you so much I'd love for you to have this pet mom I'm not signing the deed to the house over to you It's just a peanut. It's just a peanut mom. It's a peanut. I'm not a peanut Listen Molly you'll eat it Molly. I I've made so many mistakes if I had known I had this gift within me I would have become a caprice star far sooner and you could have bragged about me in your formative teen years.
Starting point is 01:02:05 So I'm sorry you couldn't have that gift that I now have for you, but I'm learning, I'm learning. So it's cute. So then we go over to Leah's apartment who has a college admissions therapist. It's a high school, it's a high school admissions consultant. And it's basically someone to help cure cure choose a school to go to and so the the woman's like knocks on the door her name is Whitney and Lea's like is there. Oh is there like more privileged name to do a high school private school school admissions therapist
Starting point is 01:02:43 I always just hope you would be Whitney poor. Whitney. So Whitney knocks on the door, and he suddenly turns the key and goes, okay, cure. We have to be on our best behavior. And then she opens the door and goes, oh my God, are you really like the hottest woman I've ever seen in my entire life? Oh my God. So she's telling this lady, she's like, you know, my mom is like obsessed because she's
Starting point is 01:03:09 trying to fix the mistakes she made with me with care. So that's great. And like she wants, she wants her to go to her high school, which is an all private, it's a private all girl school, you know, and the thing I don't like about it is it's not project based because Whitney's like, you know, and the thing I don't like about it is it's not project based. Because Whitney's like, you know what you need? You need like a school that's project based. At least like, yes, I need project based.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Well, I don't mean to sound ignorant, but like what is project based compared to like normal, like normal, or what? It's a different learning style. Like instead of just sitting there with the books and trying to figure something out, they give you a project and you work on it together and talk through the... So instead of just learning a certain kind of math, you'll make a building together and
Starting point is 01:03:55 have to figure out the math and learn how to calculate it that way. It's more of a hands-on, kind of hippy-dippy way of learning. Yeah, I'll shut it. I just know because my sister's a teacher, so I don't even know if that was a good explanation, but that's the dumb-downed way she has explained it to me. I was hoping it was really more like, don't even get me started on Singapore, man.
Starting point is 01:04:14 I was hoping that it was gonna be more like, project-based, where basically kids go in there and project all their issues on to everyone else. Well, Leah is good at that. Now that's probably what she gets at home schooling. Yeah. So basically, she's just like torn because she, on the one hand, she wants Kier to be in public school and be exposed to people of different backgrounds, different races and socioeconomic tiers. But in the other hand, she also wants Kier to have like,
Starting point is 01:04:43 you know, a really good private school education. And so she's torn and her mom is making her life hell. And Leah's like, the last thing I want is for Kiki to begin school with a bunch of Aletus. Anyway, is it time to go back to the Hamptons for a Hamptons trip or are we going to a good mansion in Salem? No, she's like, I don't want my child
Starting point is 01:05:03 to be a Aletus private school therapist coach that I hired to come to my house. What have we set the new price point for our leisure suit? Is it like $300? I don't want my daughter to be a leadist. So funny. And I liked it when she said, I don't want my daughter to be in school with a leadist. It cuts to her kid and her bad leaning on a pillow that says,
Starting point is 01:05:29 so then we go over to Ramona at home talking to herself. You know, she said, you know, what can she use paper napkins? Because I have so much laundry to do. Guy, you know what? Maybe I should wait here. Should I take the ice out now? Should I wait till data? Hold on. Let me close my eyes and think, ow!
Starting point is 01:05:46 I'm gonna get off. Floor, guys. Can't use my cloth napkins because I have to put them on the floor to break my fall in case I fall over from vertigo, okay? So, so Ebony comes over and Romano says, I'm fighting Ebony over because I wanna get into the meat and potatoes, okay?
Starting point is 01:06:04 Like, can she be preachy? Yes! But you know what she is good heart, a good soul. That's it! Also, because we never got to eat at Harlem, so I want to have my meat and potatoes finally, okay? I want to show what it's like to serve people for. I want to be the least server meat and potatoes, okay?
Starting point is 01:06:22 So they sit down and Ebony is asking her what she thought about the Harlem night and was like, you know what, it was really nice to be in that atmosphere, okay? And I was blown away by your attention to detail, it was really stunning. And I'm just sad that I fell over onto the table because my vertigo on ruined that beautiful, perfect table, okay? Yeah, you know, you level of detail, like I could see the entire plate the whole time. It was like a white plate and it just stayed that way the whole time because no food was put on it. I mean, that's T-T. Okay, that's T-T. That was T-T. So Ebony is like, and how are you feeling with the election and how our city is gonna be in the next few months?
Starting point is 01:07:03 You know what? I don't wanna talk about politics, okay? So, I don't wanna talk about politics. Sit. I wanna talk about it, okay? I was like, I was telling my friends it more of logo. I just don't wanna talk about politics anymore, okay? So, and she's like, but America's daughters get to see a woman vice president
Starting point is 01:07:23 for the first time in History after this break. I'm gonna say I don't want to talk about And you know what? I just don't I don't and she gets up and she's like walks to the bar But it's only right there cuz it's She tries very this is like her first stab like she's like okay Maybe if I walk six feet away this will work and later on it's like how about I try 12 feet away We're gonna move up to 25. She's like constantly stick how far she I walk six feet away, this will work. And later on, it's like, how about I try 12 feet away? We're gonna move up to 25. She's like, constantly sick how far she can get away
Starting point is 01:07:48 before she can reset the conversation. And Evan, he's not letting her, you know, cause she, Evan, he knew that, you know, she knows that she's gonna make up Ramona uncomfortable and that she's gonna just make Ramona do this, right? I got a blast, by the way, I think that should be everyone's goal.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Make Ramona uncomfortable. Make Ramona uncomfortable. Make Ramona uncomfortable at all time. So she's like, you know, but Ramona, we have never had a woman vice president Ramona. That's an objective fact. She goes, you know what? Let's have a nice evening. Meet Potatoes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:17 You know what? And until meeting Potatoes running for office, I don't want to talk about politics. Okay. Okay. You know what? As far as I can tell, Kamala Harris isn't Ageless. Okay. I'm Ageless. I want to talk about me, okay? Okay, you know what? As far as I can tell, Kamala Harris isn't ageless. Okay, I'm ageless. I want to talk about me being ageless. So, um, Ebony is like, listen, Ebony is like, I thought that, you know, being women, this would be a middle ground
Starting point is 01:08:36 and she has a daughter and I thought, like, can't we agree how great it is to see women advance in American politics tonight. And that's true. Why can't, why can't, I have a loan to just say. Yeah, it's really cool that a woman made it that far. Like Ramona starts freaking out. Like, my God, this is it. This is once she's gonna make me look stupid. I knew this whole thing was coming.
Starting point is 01:08:57 She's gonna try and make everyone cancel me. Because, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, you can just see Ramona starting to, that's free to sell her money. That's how I'm gonna say it. That's how I'm gonna, yeah, all she has to say is, yeah, it is pretty cool that a woman is vice president next presidency. Hopefully, you know, why did we sell? But she can't. Okay, Ivanka went from being number two on the apprentice to being in the White House.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Can we celebrate her two? Okay. So Ramona's like, nope, you know what they say? Don't talk about politics of penises with friends! Say! Okay? And everyone goes, does Ebony have to talk politics all the time? I mean, I know we have a lot more in common than this.
Starting point is 01:09:37 My daughter, Avery would say, peel back the onion Ebony, okay? Peel back, you peel back the, oh, oh, I just fell on my onion, Vertigo, onion Vertigo, okay? Do you know another thing? My best daughter, sister, best friend, Avery said. She says, hey, are you, you, or are you me? Cause it's like looking in a mirror. Like we look exactly like, pull back the onion, me, okay?
Starting point is 01:10:02 I say, whoa, I don't know who I am, am I the young one or the one that also looks young. Okay, let's all pick up an onion at the same time and we'll see and we'll know what's happening. Both pick up an onion and we'll be like, whoa, it's in my right hand and your left hand looks like a mirror image. So we shake back and forth and then we do dance. Like, which one is you? And we say, I know we'll peel back the onion and then we both fall over because we both have vertigo. Ageless. Oh, so she's like, okay,
Starting point is 01:10:26 no what? I'm gonna change the subject. So she walks back over to her and she's like, so after a whole weekend that we had, she goes, well, I'm happy about Kamala. I mean, it's like, fuck it, I'm just gonna say it. So Ramona's like, so, you know what? You know what?
Starting point is 01:10:43 After a whole weekend in the Hamptons, you really opened my mind up to things and I already thought my mind was pretty open learning about onions and peeling them. So I figured what I did, I looked up microwaves, turns out microwaves feed up all sorts of food. And then after that, I looked at microaggressions and you can't put them in microwaves. Okay, did you know that? You can't do that.
Starting point is 01:11:04 You know, you can put it in microwaves. Okay, did you know that? You can't do that. You know, you can't put it in microwaves. What? Onions. Don't turn on a microaggression if you have a pacemaker. Okay, slither. Guys, slither. Microaggressions are like matchbox cars, but much smaller. That's micro machines, Ramona.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Whoa, you're not even here. Okay, give out of you, Luian. So then we cut to an earlier scene of Luanne, Ramona, and Sonia talking and Luanne going, I mean, what's the microaggression? She puts on her glasses. She's like, all right, let's learn ladies. So Ramona's like, it's time, you know, like a cold.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Okay, if you're cold, speak of still catching. Okay. Well, it's women in America, we're aware of these issues, but we're not really that aware of these issues. Yeah. You know what? Cold's a bad. That's it. So, Mona's like, so, you want to hear about microaggressions, Epidie?
Starting point is 01:11:56 Here we go. So it's like when a black person goes into a store and they, and then someone, like, I don't know, Daryndnda says go to the sale rack Okay, and then the black person goes into a store and then like someone follows them okay Or whoa whoa whoa. She has a great one. You have great hair. Okay. Wow. My mind is open racism is solved, okay? Yeah, when they say is it yours yeah like who else is with it be no it's a micro aggression oh god okay cheers yeah well you know I my experience in the world I have like a grittier lens and we are a very divided
Starting point is 01:12:36 country she's happy you know what when you put out to fight it energy it's gonna be like that well I mean Ramona what I'm saying is we don't know who our president even is yeah I mean it's taking so long that. Well, I mean, Ramona, what I'm saying is, we don't know who our president even is yet. I mean, it's taking so long that that kind of shows how divided it is, right? And it's like, well, you know what? We don't have to press it, because it's the first time that we had mail-in ballots.
Starting point is 01:12:56 You know what? You know how mail people are? Very, very difficult. You know what, it's very difficult to find good mail-help. The day. And the set up didn't I? Well, okay, You know what it's very difficult to find good mail help What's that I did my okay, you know what you know what the mail help? You know what this thing on box news. There's been fraud at the ballet. Yeah, all sorts of ballet fraud I can't even believe it you think that this world had come to that's ballot fraud and it's not real No, the ballet is a real place Ebony. I got to teach you so much
Starting point is 01:13:25 And Ebony is like well to teach you so much. And Ebony is like, well, you said you don't want to talk about politics. It's like, okay. You were the one who said you just said we don't know who the president is yet. You know, so someone is like, well, you brought it up. You know what, can we not talk politics, okay? You know what, I'm taking a step away.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Take a step away. I don't even know you well. And I feel like you're teaching me, okay? You're preaching teaching You're preaching teaching me I like that Preaching everybody's like tell me what I've taught you nothing Nothing so I was like you know, I'm walking away. I'll be right back. I'm coming back. So Ramona leaves the room And then oh Ramona's like you know what, but he's not having a conversation.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Okay. It's like she wants. She's talking to her dog, by the way, Ramona goes to sit on her bed and talk to Coco. This is how Coco's last day is going to play out. This is just not this dog deserves better. And so Coco who has been on death's doorstep for about five years now. So she's like, you know what? It's like she wants to ram something down my throat, so to speak. And it it's like it's who way or no way And she's sounding a little preachy, okay? Coco, we don't want to talk politics, okay? Yeah, I don't want to be educated
Starting point is 01:14:35 So that is by the way, that is that could just be a motto for the show. I don't want to be educated There's never been a more Romano line out here. Don't wanna be educated. Trust that you can tell. Yeah, she's pissed off, so she's calming down with the dog. And Ebony's like, you know, Romano just needs to understand that I'm trying to connect with her.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Like, I don't give a fuck about your party, or, you know, I don't care about that. I just wanna know what your values are. What you're gonna judge by her party. I mean look it's obvious what you're trying to do. Like let's not pretend that you're not trying to do it you know. And having an argument with Robota and being like well you said you didn't want to talk about politics that of course you know what you're doing here. And it's leading to a very hilarious No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,. So Evan, he's like, okay, Ramona, well, welcome back.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Here's to the truth and here's to being authentic. She's like, I just wanna have fun, okay. And she goes, but that's your white fragility talking, Ramona. She goes, you know what, you're preaching to me. You are, that's it, you're preaching. And she goes, you're gaslighting me, Ramona. I'm just, well, there's like, you're preaching. I'm not, you are, that's gas, I'm not gaslighting.
Starting point is 01:16:06 I'm not gaslighting. You're gaslighting me. Do you need some made-lapse lighting? Very gaslighting right now. So I invited you into my home. But I wanna have a real friendship with your amount of, fine, you know what, do that then. She goes, but you can't just like me
Starting point is 01:16:23 when I only say what you want me to say But doesn't that work both ways? I mean Jesus Christ like the woman the woman will give you 97 chances to do ever say the wrong thing Constantly, but to like sit there and just try and like Real the wrong thing out of Ramona. You don't have to do that. You're putting in too much work here, okay? All you have to do is let Ramona do what she wants to. Have you over if you didn't or have a normal conversation and wait for it to step in a pile of shit? It'll take less than a minute.
Starting point is 01:16:54 I guarantee you. Well, you know what? I'm not gonna step in pile of shit, because you know why? I don't wanna talk political, okay? I don't wanna talk race, religion, or creed, okay? Let's talk about a movie, okay? Ooh, I hear this movie that with with Michael
Starting point is 01:17:07 Beane Jordan where he's a boxer. What's that called? Creed. I don't want to talk about Creed. Okay? You know what those watch TV shows where all these families they get in these cars and they go around the country and trying to be in each other So amazing race Ramona Whoa, how about we talk about something we all love? You know what? How about the office? Don't we all love that show? What's him that crazy old man in the corner is always doing crazy things? Creed? Oh my god, look how many times I tell you, don't want to talk about this, okay? So, let's see. So Ramano's like, well, you know what? You need to back off because the other girls feel
Starting point is 01:17:48 that you're lecturing us. And so then we cut to the girls talking. And Sony was like, well, you know, when you're with her, it's just her platform, you know? I mean, it's a big thing now. And we have to remember when this is all happening too, right? Yeah. This is like the election.
Starting point is 01:18:03 This is all the BLM stuff. Like, this is a very, very intense time that this is all being filmed, right? So so it's like, well, I mean, this is all just huge now like it's some that could trend, you know, it's like jelly shoes used to be, you know, she's just that girl with 20 pairs of jelly shoes. Like the slap bracelets. But and she basically said it very, you know, diplomatically, it's like, I just wonder if she can talk about other subjects now. So meanwhile, Ebony, by the way, I was feeling very bad for Ebony that she has to sit here and listen to Ramona berate her and say like, you're lecturing, you're lecturing, you're
Starting point is 01:18:42 lecturing, you're lecturing, you're lecturing. Like, yes, do I believe that Ebony was like, was sort of turning what could have just been like a fun dinner party into something a little bit more, that's the right word, sort of like more a little bit like, wah wah, like a little bit more like that. Not a wah wah, but like, like do I think that that means like? It was like a field trip instead of a party. Basically, right.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Yes, but that being said, like she is like, I do also think it's like disrespectful for a motor to be standing there just like literally yelling at this woman for just trying to share her. Well, she's not lecturing her. She's not lecturing her. And she's not lecturing her. That's the other thing.
Starting point is 01:19:23 She's not lecturing her. We can smile. That's actually the problem. All she said was, all she said was, do you like that there's a woman? That's all she said. Do you like that there's a woman in the white head, the white head, the white house, sorry, well that just made that a lot grosser. But she's like, isn't it nice that there's a woman in the white house and Ramona is slowly spiraling the fuck out of control. Yeah. And literally. And like, here's Ramona so proud that she looked up the definition of micro aggression. And then while she's simultaneously projecting all sorts of rage onto Ebony, that's, it's
Starting point is 01:19:54 not existing at that moment. So it was like, I, I felt like this was like, it just was like, oh, God, this really sucks that. Well, it's classic. I think she's, I think Ramona sees that she's Ramona feels like she's being set up to look like an idiot, right? So when Ebony immediately sits down and brings up the election, Ramona feels like she's being set up to look stupid.
Starting point is 01:20:16 So she's, I feel like that's what Ramona is fighting against. And I don't really feel that she's wrong. I just feel like she's setting it up in such a, or she's going about this in such a stupid way. Just say, yes, I'm glad to see a woman doing well. That's it. It would have been over, but she's going kuku now. And so she's going on with this whole thing. And so this is too heavy. Okay. You know, it's just too serious. I just want to escape it. And Evan, he's like, well, I don't have the privilege to escape. I't escape what am I supposed to take my skin off do you have a coat closet for my black coat Ramona? I was really I love when she said that. I have a coat closet for my blackness
Starting point is 01:20:54 Feeling attacked like literally like Just going through all like the the classic beats of white fragility feeling very attacked, okay? I tried to understand and I took things in and I'm actually know what I Didn't have to bring this up, but I'm going to you can already say thank you ahead of time Okay, cuz you know what the other person I was gonna bring up today was E.J. Walker who was the first Millionaire and she was black. Okay. Guess what? He is a candle for you. It says E.J. Walker Black okay guess what he is a candle for you. It's as EJ Walker I've been he's like and he's like it's CJ Walker
Starting point is 01:21:35 No, not whatever Ramona. It's not whatever Ramona. She's you know what? I'm gonna go right now Okay, guess what I don't some of us appreciate EJ Walker and the fact that EJ Walker did so much good work in Texas with the Rangers. That's Walker, Texas Ranger, totally different than the one I had. You know what? I have Vertical and I'm really appreciated of Walker's. Okay, now you're not even trying Ramona. All right. You know what?
Starting point is 01:22:05 So I watched a show on HBO and everyone was scared of the walkers, but I wasn't, I wasn't, I was like, I welcomed them. They were all millionaires. Like Ramona, that's, you're literally just so white walkers and so not yet. So then, so then Ebeneers like, well, I'm sorry, Mona is like, you know what? Guess what? It was lovely to see you, and he's like, well, it wasn't lovely to see me because you're upset. And why?
Starting point is 01:22:32 We don't have to be upset. Because you corrected me, okay? You're all like, whoa, it's not CJ, okay? It's not CJ. And he's like, I know I didn't do that, right? And she goes, you know what? You know what? You should be saying instead of,
Starting point is 01:22:45 ba-da-da-da-da-da-da. You know what we should say? You should say, whoa, Ramona, it's incredible that you know the first million-year woman was a black chick. What? That she wanted to pat on the back for googling one piece of information.
Starting point is 01:23:03 This was like, I mean, this, she literally she literally first of all she nearly paraphrased a Viva Dresher I almost literally died I laughed so fucking loud You're correcting me like a teacher. Well, it's not her name Ramona. Oh, you know what? It's not even the point okay, and she tells us that course is picking on me now. She's picking on you. So, Ebony says, okay, well, Sonia Morgan mentioned the fact that she didn't like that you reposted the picture I posted of me and you Ramona. She's like, you know what? She's jealous. Sonia loves attention. When I show you attention, she gets Dallas. And Abin is like, well, look who's lecturing now. Look who's lecturing now. And our Ramona is like, like she has one of these moments where she realizes like, like it's over.
Starting point is 01:23:55 It's over. There's nothing she can do. So she then just starts sort of like laugh, crying and sits down next to Abin. She's, she flies falls on her on the couch. That's a weird one. I felt the tat. She just want you to know who CJ Walker is because I know you're gonna go tell your friends and not look good, okay? I'm not some big scary monster crazy lady, you know?
Starting point is 01:24:19 I mean, Jesus Christ, I'm not a, do you know what a no fly zone is? Just like, what? No, I don't and I don't wanna be taught right now. Okay, but what? I'm just gonna do you know what a no-fly zone is? It's a cute what? Oh, no, I don't and I don't want to be taught right now. Okay, but what? I'm just gonna assume it's a it's a place where people get elected. Guys, I'm not talking that. No fly zone is that a place where we don't have insects
Starting point is 01:24:34 because I would appreciate that quite a bit. Thank you. Um, so she's like, you know what? I do want to know your feelings. I was up to five in the morning researching this shit. I have vertigo. I love that. That's shit. I was up to five in the morning researching this shit. I have vertigo. I was looking up this shit. C.J. Alice Walker. Okay, this shit. I have vertigo. It happens. So you're a strong white woman. It shows you're a strong black bitch. She is. That's right. Ramona. And so they end up, you know, it ends up working out. And they're probably much closer now for it, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:07 but oh my god. I was, it was so cringey. And then, but then for it to somehow actually find resolution was kind of amazing. I still felt bad that Ebony had to endure that, but, um, I, you know, I don't feel bad. I mean, I don't feel bad.
Starting point is 01:25:23 I think that it's, I think it's good. I good. I think it's a good thing for Ramona. And I think that Ebony knows what she's getting into and is like being very patient. It's like Ramona is trying to leave her own house. Ebony is like, no, I'm going to sit here and we're not going to leave fighting over this stupid thing. We're going to fucking talk it through. And we're going to be fine, you know. You know good for her. I mean Jesus this is hard It's gotta be a really difficult position to be in. This is like I'm sure there I'm sure she probably would prefer to be spending her time
Starting point is 01:26:00 doing something other than having Ramona singer on her feet, and lecturing her about like ABC Walker and, you know, like Ramona demanding, you know, applause for looking on Wikipedia for 30 seconds. Well, but you say you want, you know, we're saying we want people like Ramona to learn, and Ramona is like in her own crazy way making an effort to learn. I mean, she oddly, you know, people, people are, she's trying, she's trying. I mean, I'm sorry, she is trying at least to do it, you know, it's like, maybe she saw the Netflix movie or something, but she's like, darn it. You know, I'm going to bring this up and show them I'm learning.
Starting point is 01:26:41 And yeah, it's cringey, but you know change isn't Non cringey, you know, you want people to open up their minds. Well, this is what it looks like. Okay. Well, I just I felt bad that Ebony like that's great that people are changing. I just felt bad in that moment that Ebony had to sit there and like Ramona was gaslighting Ebony and and that Gabani had to do had to deal with that. I felt bad for her on that. But, you know, ultimately, it seemed like it went, it ultimately arrived in a good place and I'm sure that the benefits of it arriving in a good place, at least for now, away the uncomfortable moments. And at the end of the day, for us, it was hilariously cringy and that's kind of all we want from these shows sometimes. So another, another Roni in the books that leaves me speechless
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