Watch What Crappens - RHONY: Voter Frights

Episode Date: June 10, 2021

*Also avail as video on Crappens On Demand http://bit.ly/crappensvideo* The Real Housewives of New York are still in the Hamptons this week, and Luann has some trouble getting her foot out o...f her mouth. Luckily, Leah is there to throw a fit about holla-splaining while Eboni and Sonja form the bond we all needed. This week's bonus episode is a post vacation catchup watching session of Married to Medicine, Top Chef and Below Deck Sailing. Find all of our premium bonus episodes at https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensOur Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:48 I'm Ronnie and guess who's with me? He's smart, he's handsome, he's sexy, okay? He's educated and intelligent. Well, what a mix! His name is Ben Mandelker, hi Ben. Hi Ronnie, how's it going? Good, how are you? Oh, I am so, so good. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:01:10 You're just another beautiful. I'm doing so great. How are you doing? Good. I was very stressed watching Real Housewives of New York City last night. It's a very stressful time. Yeah. You know what? It's like watching a white lady car crash, okay?
Starting point is 00:01:27 So what it is. If cars were white ladies, and they were just all running into each other on the freeway, okay? That's basically, that was my night when I was watching. I was rubber-mecking some white ladies crashing into each other. That was fun.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Yeah, I felt like Ebony was fronter, and she was just trying to get across that highway. And it was like, whoa, you're I coming with my car? I'm just gonna drive, I felt like Ebony was Frogger. And she was just trying to get across that highway. And it was like, whoa, you're all right, come in my car. I'm just gonna drive, I don't care. I don't care if there's someone crossing the highway, okay? And then Leah comes along, she's the log, you know. And everyone's just like, it's like, someone please get Ebony to the other side of the highway.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Someone can go. Except it's where Frogger has lines. Like it explains things as it crosses the crosses the road It's like here's why you should not hit me car, okay? This is why I actually get to interview him on this freeway Frogger gets into car and is like you probably should not be driving at this speed and you know what you're in my car get up my car Wow, what an episode so here we are with real housewives Get up your city everybody. Oh, yeah, it wasn't actually good episode. So here we are with Real Housewives New York. Good episode, everybody.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Yeah, it wasn't actually good episode. I was surprised. It was really good. It was a really good episode. I thought it was, I was very surprised. It managed to be, I thought like really, I thought it was like, I thought there was good dialogue, but then there was also craziness happening too.
Starting point is 00:02:44 I think I, and it just ended in such a bizarre place. It was great. Well, I thought it was the funniest, the funniest scene of explanations to white ladies that I've ever seen in my life. I'm like, I'm like, I mean, we've all either been part of those conversations or been reading these conversations or whatever for, you know, a while and
Starting point is 00:03:07 It was this was done in the most hilarious way. I thought I was cracking up the whole time It was a best serious discussion ever because I'm laughing through the whole thing Though it was interesting to see who really like rose the occasion like Sonya I mean, I think we're all sort of shocked that Sonya, especially after her episode one, you know, fish tank of diversity, or sort of thought, she was gonna have these moments of attempting to understand and then sort of fall on her face. And she's been kind of a poster child so far of privileged white lady ally, I guess, you know, probably not for me to say, because I'm not the one being allied to, but still, I guess like Sony has doing so well. And then
Starting point is 00:03:51 you have Heather, Heather has been an interesting case because I feel like she has some really good moments. And then you she has some moments where like, oh, Heather, Heather, yeah, condescending ass Heather, talking to everybody like she's a bit like they're a bit good trying to feed Bethany and meatball. I mean feeding Bethany that meatball or Mackage it was a meatball right trying to feed Bethany that meatball in the Chuchu in the Chuchu fashion at the dinner party. I mean I think that's the best representation of Heather I've ever seen. Like that print if an alien came to earth and said what's a Heather I'd be seen. Like that print, if an alien came to Earth and said, what's a Heather, I'd be like, it's this scene, you know? Moments.
Starting point is 00:04:28 But I really did enjoy how Heather just riled up Leia so much by doing so little, just really inferiorly. Like just, it was so good. But we're going to get into all of that. Right now, in fact, right now, this moment, okay, Ronnie educate me, educate me and how we're going to do this. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:50 What we need to do that? Educate us. Okay. Teacher's destiny. Teacher's okay. Teacher's. God. So here we go.
Starting point is 00:05:00 So we start with Ebony and Sonia. And I wrote Tinsley. I don't know. I'm assuming that's Leo. Oh, so it's just in the bushes. Tinsley's like, oh my egg. So it's not about your eggs, Tinsley, okay? It's a very serious conversation about race. But my egg. My egg lost the race. So, Ebony is leaving because Lou Ann has just kicked her out of her place. And she's like, I'm not going to say some place where I'm not wanted.
Starting point is 00:05:35 And Lou Ann is livid. She is in the kitchen now with Ramona. And then also her daughter, her niece, and Kurt, the nude model. And she's like, wow, well she is angry. I mean, she's referring to race. I never brought onto color of her skin, not once. What's that got to do with it? What does the skin color got to do with it?
Starting point is 00:05:58 But she is angry. I never brought up her race. What's love got to do, got to do with it. That's my question. Everyone is like you know what? She's got issues. Guy. So then outside Heather's like, well, call her mama. Listen, come on, Ebony. Ebony's like, listen, she asked me to leave. I'm gonna leave. And Heather goes, yeah, she did. She sure did. And so, you're like, yeah, women don't want to be called angry.
Starting point is 00:06:26 And when you're a black woman, avoid that. And if you do do that, you just back right down and you say, I'm sorry, I didn't know that. I actually had a Nigerian football team once in John John, let me sit on his lap during, you know, oh, it's a fine vagina. Just get out of the conversation. Listen, mama, we have to, we have to, we have to listen even more, you know, as a black artist who I enjoy Beyonce once sang in a musical featuring many black people, dream girls, listen, and we have to do that, mama. Oh my God. So then, um, let's see, back in size. So we're cutting back and forth a lot, obviously. Oh, and there comes out, of course,
Starting point is 00:07:09 doing that totally other thing where she's making talking hands. She's like, this thing, you know what we need to do? We need to listen to each other. Listen to each other. Red, ball, blue, square, okay? How do they go together? How do they go together? How did they go together?
Starting point is 00:07:25 It happens like we have to listen even when we don't like what we're hearing. Hell yes, you get comfortable with being uncomfortable. That's why you use squeeze couture. Am I right ladies? And I just have to point out that this is exactly how Heather said that, she goes. You know what?
Starting point is 00:07:43 You need to get comfortable with being uncomfortable. I was like, what is that? You're What are you doing right now, Heather? She's so cringe. And so Evan, he's like, five queens. So then, uh, Luar and back with Luar. And she's like, listen, you know what, um, it wasn't even about me. I was saying that Ramona felt uncomfortable. I mean Ramona felt uncomfortable Someone had to say something poor Ramona Ramona feeling so uncomfortable with the sex talk That poor shrinking violet Ramona singer. Oh, it's afraid to speak up for herself But she's like to know it right know what she got so defensive okay, and after everybody made such a
Starting point is 00:08:23 Right, you want, she got so defensive, okay? And after everybody made such a derogatory statement, that she's the smartest woman at the table, she lost me. I mean, for someone who's so well-educated, that was a really dumb thing to say. The dumb thing is that you thought she was saying anything more than her saying. She had the most education. She has the most education.
Starting point is 00:08:43 For you to think that you have more education than her when she literally is like as an advanced law degree proves that like what you're saying right now is the dumbest thing being said. Well, I don't know where that well, but boy did I get to know her today. Boy did I get to know her today miss boy? Boy, you'll be getting to be knowing Ebony today. Thank you. That was an original song based off of another song. Who's name I don't even remember. So we'll continue on. Thank you very much. Thank you, Capra. So we go back to Ramona's house and Ebony's getting back there and Lea's just in bed, you know, sad and
Starting point is 00:09:29 Ebony comes in and she's like, well, she kicked me out of her house. Okay, she did and she called me an angry black woman Which technically she didn't but yeah, she did But that was the fact. Yes. I think I think she did. Yeah, so then Lea's like no, she did not No, she did not No, she did. Yeah, so then Leah's like, no she did not, no she did not, no she did not freaking out. And she's like, listen, I'm just trying to not get emotional because this is bullshit that I've dealt with my whole fucking life. Yeah, and she says, you know, society does not afford black women in particular a range of emotion or just down my passion around an issue and it's a problem.
Starting point is 00:10:04 And I want my friend to win to give me more credit than that. So she starts telling Leah what happened and everything and she's like, listen, I had to flex based on what Luann said. So I said, hold up, Lou, don't make it about education because I have the most formal education than anyone else at the table, you know. So then we come back to SAG Harbor and Heather's like, you know, mama's Ebeneez is smart girl. Well, she's the most educated person,
Starting point is 00:10:28 but does that mean that you're smart? I'm like, Luan, but that's not what was up for debate. It was literally about the term education and the idea of education and whether or not educated people say things like vagina and, you know, ass-reaming or whatever. Yeah, it's funny. No one accused you of being stupid, but you're like spending all of this time proving
Starting point is 00:10:49 that you are. It's weird. Yeah. No one's been accusing you of that. Why are you doing this to yourself? And so, I was like, listen, she's very proud. And she should be proud. It's a black woman to have the highest degree that, you know, you can ever have. And I was like, well, I'm proud of her too. I'm I'm proud of her too. I like hot weather as well
Starting point is 00:11:10 Which is why I'm always in the islands during the summer high degrees Here's what I'm saying the more degrees the better there. I said it. I'm a supportive person. I'm supportive Can we get a show of hands who here is also supportive of Ebony and her high degrees? Kurt, Kurt, the new model you are. I can tell he is, I mean, look, we're a very progressive household here. So then, and I love this whole scene. So it's her niece sitting there, who someone pointed out through social media that the niece has some art exhibit based on
Starting point is 00:11:43 come. It's like, come patterns are something for like $500. So they're all, you know, which is just funny because it's this whole previous conversation about talking about sex. And she's like, here's my niece, who makes cum art. You know, so we've got her, we've got Nicole, and then we've got her daughter, who you know,
Starting point is 00:12:01 Victoria has like been in trouble before for saying the N word or something as I recall. And then you've got the new model Kurt, who's written articles that somebody else sent us as an art critic, like some art critic with his head up his own ass talking about, how only black people now can give reviews on black art and all this.
Starting point is 00:12:21 So you've got this whole table of problematic people and Lewean's ranting and raving and they're all kind of nodding at her. They keep cutting to yeah, not they're trying to be supportive because she's going crazy, but then they kind of stop because like she's going too crazy and they've probably all learned lessons by now. That's hope. And so even her daughter's like, well, mom, you know, this is where you just, you know, you say upset. Okay. So the word upset came on.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Try that one. You know, they're all trying to help them little ways, but Leuands just too. They're also like, I don't know how much I want to commit any words to this scene because this is already going to come back to haunt us. So Heather's like, now Leuands, you know, when you use the word angry and I know you meant it as angry as a word, it's an adjective. Well, she's very clearly angry. She's clearly angry. I didn't bring up race, but she's clearly angry. And Nicole goes upset, upset. And that's when
Starting point is 00:13:21 Victor was like, yeah, you say upset mom. Say upset mom. Come on. So on And so then we go back to Ebony and she's like oh and now Luann said oh so I'm an educated person And I said no you said that I didn't say that and she said well then why are you so angry and leaves like oh my god What an idiot she goes oh, yeah, yeah, I'm an angry black woman and you know she said well I didn't say that angry black woman and you know she said well I didn't say that. So Heather says listen when she said your white fragility and I had no idea what that means okay so Heather goes so that's when you should have said what does that mean you know and then they just cut the curtain nodding he's like hmm like whoo why do we care what Kurt has to think about this why are we we cutting to him, give me like,
Starting point is 00:14:06 like an assent here, you know? So Ramona's like, you know what? She was just acting so upset, upset. She was acting so not angry, she was acting upset. So it wasn't true what to say, okay. Oh my God, and Heather's like, well, I know you guys don't know what white fragility means. Ramona's like, no, you know what? I thought it was Waisonia.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I thought it was Waisonia. Is that funny? Yoke, every morning. Okay? It's a boat! It's a boat! It's a starter! It's called Waisogelini. Heather's like, listen, you guys have to learn. The onus is on us right now. We need to listen. You and Leah thing. I think we can get through that. Roman is like, oh yeah, this is silly BS, okay?
Starting point is 00:14:48 Silly BS. What happened with that, but he is not just silly BS. Okay. It's serious. It's serious. It's serious. I like, I'm like, I'm going in the background giving color commentary.
Starting point is 00:14:58 This is silly. Is this like that serious? This is silly. Okay. By the way, at this point, I think Heather's doing a decent job. She hasn't, think Heather's doing a decent job. She's like doing an okay job. I mean, she's still very Heather, but she's like getting
Starting point is 00:15:11 through to the women. So I'm like, oh, good for you, Heather. So then she's like saying how, like, you know, I think to understand each other is the most important thing right now. And we have to go there with apologies. And it's I think to understand each other is the most important thing right now and we have to go there with Apologies and Apologies for me
Starting point is 00:15:34 Apologies for what giving her the finest lamb curry she's ever tasted in her life Well, I'm sorry that I care about your palate so much Garth pack it up. It's just gonna be for you and me. God, so she's shocked and there's like, Lewean, now I know that you, you know, feel probably attacked in your own home right now. She's like, yes, yes, yes, and that's not cool.
Starting point is 00:16:00 That is not cool. No, it's your turf. Yes, you know what, It's not my turf. It's how she reacted to me. That was uncalled for. On my turf. I'm like, it's not my turf, but let's roll that footage of me saying,
Starting point is 00:16:13 how dare you say that you come into mom. So, so there's like, listen, we have to strip the ego and listen to someone else's perspective. It's our responsibility as white women to push pause on our reactions and our defenses and say like wait a minute what did I do to make you feel that way? Well I served the best goddamn lamb curry that's what I did. Next question. So then back with Ebony you know she's upset she's like and then it all comes out with Leighanne
Starting point is 00:16:44 you know what she's been thinking about me like, and then it all comes out with Leuand, you know, but she's been thinking about me. Oh, you're pretentious. Oh, you're an angry black bitch. And now that's how she's feeling, you know, like, save that for someone else because that's not who I am. And Leu is like, well, you know, it is Leuand. And she does think she's better than literally everybody.
Starting point is 00:16:58 So, you know, that's kind of her thing. And she's like, well, she works on this hierarchy and like this countess shit, whatever. I'm not, I'm not doing that. Yeah. And so, yeah, Leu is like, well, she works on this hierarchy and like this count as shit, whatever. I'm not, I'm not doing that. Yeah. And so, yeah, Leo's like, yeah, well, you're better than me because I probably wouldn't burn out in the house. So now the other girls, they come back to Ramona's place.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Everyone's reunited and how there's like, how are my girls? Holy shit balls on my right? Cause she goes into the room with Ebony and Leah so Leah's Leah starts saying how Luann's been very weird this whole trip and Heather's saying I mean to call a black woman angry right now I'm when you're just starting a fucking problem, okay? And I say this as someone who's been in the heart of the black community am I right sister am I right am I right? Am I right? She's like I have? Am I right? Am I right?
Starting point is 00:17:45 She's like, I have a different lens because I have been in the core and the homes of black America. And I'm just so happy that I have had that experience. And everything's like, uh, wait a minute. Could you tell me more about what you just said? Come free wide a second. She's like, oh yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Well, you know, I worked for Puffy for five years and Beyonce. I worked for Beyonce. The core of the black experience guys, the core. Okay. Did you know that like pretty much all black people have huge album sales? Because I have, I'm telling you this, because I've just been in the core of it, okay? Oh my god, Heather. So, Evany is just like, You're doing nicely until this. You're doing nicely. Oh, Heather.
Starting point is 00:18:29 So, Evany is just like, but then, you know, there's like real black America. Not, you know, what I'm saying, like, that's not the entertainment industry. And Heather goes, oh yeah, you know, I'm not talking about Puffy because that's like, you know, fake black America, you know. I was, you know, the illusion of black America.
Starting point is 00:18:46 I'm talking about the people who worked for Buffy, because that's like real black America, because they weren't making any money. They were just interns. I mean, I was in black culture. I was in black culture. Just please. So now, real black America is not earning any money.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Yeah. Please stop. Please stop. Please stop. Please stop. Just stop. Like she was just about as close as one could be from saying my best friend is black. Just that close. Stop.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Yeah. So Ebony actually really summarizes it quite well. She goes, you know, Heather does have an elevated sense of awareness, but she can over familiarize herself with aspects of black culture in a way that makes me feel slightly uncomfortable. Like that, I could not think of a better way to put that. I mean, that's exactly that's exactly it on the nose. So, Evan, Evan, Evan, he was actually on, watch what happens live last night, and I watched a little bit of it and Andy and he asked her So you know were you appreciative of Heather being there and she's like well
Starting point is 00:19:51 You know I was I did appreciate Heather's take mostly but a lot of it just felt like white explaining and I didn't really love that and I thought you know It's it's Hollis's Blaining. It's thought, you know, it's Hollis-splaining. It's just total. It's Heather Hollis-splaining. You know, who else could put it like this more awkwardly than fucking Heather? Yeah, I got like mortified just for myself
Starting point is 00:20:15 because I thought of all the times the past that were. I probably did the same thing in an effort to really be like, I'm an ally. And I wound up just probably white-splaining and I'm like, oh God, because sometimes I see myself in Heather and it's like mortifying So then Heather nevertheless Heather goes on She's like, you know my friend is a gorgeous black man dressed in Gucci and he can't hail a cap and then
Starting point is 00:20:46 so I have to hail the cap from I have to be like hello taxi hello mama and then finally stop for me I mean I've seen things that a lot of white folks haven't seen for instance have you ever been to a black interns apartment I've seen that I've seen that oh my god seen that. Oh my God, Heather. So she's like, listen, Luann is here and I'm not asking you to educate her, okay? Because that's not your job. So instead, maybe you could just explain what you meant
Starting point is 00:21:19 in an educational kind of fashion. Yeah, okay. Just maybe try and explain, maybe we can get you a whiteboard or something like that You know, you can just draw Puffy use PowerPoint okay, I recommend Corpus existence pop quizzes. That's always good. That's how it is But on the report card afterwards we could do a report card to see how well Al-Lewen learned it, okay? Yeah Yeah, and Evan is like Report card afterwards we could do a report card to see how well how Lou Ann learned it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:45 And Evan is like, uh-huh So Evan tells us she's like, I'm gonna talk to Lou Ann as an adult and what I hope she apologizes for is Defaulting to a trope about black women and their reactions, right? So she's got a plan. So she's like, listen, Leah, because they're both in these robes. So she's like, listen, Leah, I'm just going to go have a cocktail and talk to them and Leah's like, but what do I say? Like, what am I going to say sitting there? She's like, you don't have to say anything, okay? And Heather's goes, you know what you should say? You should say, take me or leave me girls. Take me
Starting point is 00:22:24 or leave me. Take me for leave me take me for what I am for what I was meant to be okay and that's a black song as well but it's only a half black song you know because black and white people can sing together as was proven in red which I saw multiple times because I understand the black experience also a but we'll talk about that later. I'm really kind of a beacon for intersectional experiences. Yeah. Um, let's go have a season of change. So, uh, it's a season of love, actually.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Season of love, well, Hala, well that's what Heather would call a season of change. Um, and if I knew the number of digits in that one song, I would have recited them. Ben, there is actually a meme that goes around that says, if you don't know how many minutes there are in a year, you're probably straight. So I think I have to question it because that's from that red song. 10,000, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm 125. Well, Ronnie, you shared you want to you want to hear the most devastating thing is that the first time I saw rent was that God awful rent live on Fox. Okay. Well, you are straight.
Starting point is 00:23:36 You know, you might start looking into a new hobby called the ginas. Okay. It might be for you. I'm working my way up to rent. I'm currently in my into the woods phase, but I'm not quite there yet. I don't know if I even want to go to rent from into the woods.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I think I just want to stay in the woods. Stay in the woods. Well, you know what they don't do in the woods? Pay rent. So you see it's all physical. 500,000 tree tops in the woods. 525,000 tree tops in the world I'm 125,000 magical beehins 500,000 weeds, greens, there are even trees
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Starting point is 00:24:39 and the repercussions. What does our obsession with these feud say about us? We're starting off with a pretty messy love triangle between Selena Gomez and Justin and Haley Bieber, a seemingly innocent TikTok of Selena talking about her laminated eyebrows. It's snowballed into a full-blown alleged feud. But it doesn't seem like fans are letting up anytime soon. Despite both Selena and the Bieber's making public statements denying any bad blood. How much of this is teen jealousy and lovers quarreling, and how much of it is a carefully
Starting point is 00:25:11 crafted narrative designed to sell albums? Follow this and tell wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon music or wonder ya. Um, so now Ramona and Sonja are in the kitchen. Everyone is like, you know what? My original idea for today was for us to hang out and like make some food and be like easy breezy Ramona girl, you know? So I got this apron. Wait, don't turn around. I'm gonna put on my apron.
Starting point is 00:25:36 I'm gonna be surprised. I'm gonna put on this apron. Okay, don't turn around. Okay, all right. Everyone ready? Here we go. And it's Ramona just in the bikini apron of course And she's my idea but I'll wear funky funny aprons that show off her ages bodies okay
Starting point is 00:25:52 Yeah, you know what we just got to do something to get through it so dark and dismal guy You know what it's tough stuff. It's tough stuff. I Top stop wow, I hope that Ebony is no longer upset, upset, okay? So, so now Heather goes to check it on the WAN and she's like saying how they should all go down and like have a talk and come to an understanding. Well, I mean, she was up off her seat in my face. I'm in grants and I do have apparently very large face,
Starting point is 00:26:24 but that's what all stars have. Large faces and she got into a celebrity's face. Can you believe it, girls? Well, it was something that you said that actually set her off. She goes, when she misunderstood. She says, you know what? Let's just go for it. Let's go for it, guys, okay?
Starting point is 00:26:41 I'm going to put two little dolls on the table, okay? You're going to talk through this doll and Ebony's going to talk through it guys, okay? I'm gonna put two little dolls on the table, okay? You're gonna talk through this doll, and Ebony's gonna talk through this doll, okay? Hopefully Ebony has brought a chalkboard or something, okay, we're not asking her for an education, okay? Everybody ready? Ebony, let's do this. And Ebony's like, I'm gonna need some tequila,
Starting point is 00:27:00 if you don't mind. Take this, yeah. Well, you know, if I made somebody feel bad, I want to know about it, and I want to fix it by giving them front road tickets to my cabaret. That solves everything. Right, boys? Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:14 But also, if there was a misunderstanding, like old Kenny Loggins would say, meet me halfway, okay? So they all sit down together in the living room. And Ebony just lays it out. I mean, this is so, so good. How she just laid every single point out, perfect. She's like, Lou, I want you to know
Starting point is 00:27:35 that I hold you in a very hypergarde, okay? And that's true. So when you called me angry, that was unacceptable. Now, whether you know it or not, the term angry would referring to a black woman has a long, stereotypical history. And black women in this country have never been afforded the right to have a fully emotional experience because a minute we raise our voice, and I fully acknowledge that I did raise my voice in the way I was like, This is true, this is true. Mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm,
Starting point is 00:28:09 mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, It made me feel like you were painting me with a broad brush. And that's what we do in this country when a black woman behaves away we don't like, okay? And it hurt me, Luan. And I would love it if you could be okay if I'm just upset sometimes and not use a term angry because it does trigger a stereotype and I've worked my whole life to never show up as an angry black woman because I have a responsibility to other black women. And I was like, oh yeah!
Starting point is 00:28:37 My girls. It was so good. Thank you. I don't know. I would use that whenever I need it, you know. Exactly. I don't know if I would have the ability to be so poised and to just like string together those points so well, you know. I would be like, huh, well, well, well. So she's like, well, we're also, you know, something that I think we also need to all understand is it's not just a racial thing at this point. This is a housewives show that someone has laid something out like that like This is housewives like this is just TV in general. This is just TV in general like Just no one just lays it out just like that right so the bank goes oh well Thank you, and yes, you kind of an autograph well taken. I didn't realize that
Starting point is 00:29:26 That the word angry sets off that kind of reaction. I didn't say it because I tried to belittle you or make you Lesser than because that's not me if I'm gonna do that It's by not inviting your significant others in my cap array. We all know that So I mean listen We are not trying to make anyone lesser, which is why I just stopped making people call me the countess about two years ago. Can't be different. I'm not going to make anyone feel lesser, but I certainly won't pay them if they want
Starting point is 00:29:56 to be in my cap or a. So for that, I'm sorry. And I think I'm, I think it was a major miscommunication. I was upset and I saw that you were upset and upset would have been a better word. And I also am in my own home. Not that I care about my turf, but I'm in my own home and I have my daughter. And so my tors, my tors horns just went up. I suppose, remote as devil horns. That's a whole other story.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Hit it for us. Anyway, but I just found myself getting angry and you just sometimes have to educate us on that You know and then that's where I'm going to all of us all of us educate all of us Okay, and she's like, yeah, I apologize and everything's like I appreciate that and I hope that you would extend the same to me. I'm like, oh. Oh. No. She's like, you want me to apologize for making you upset.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Well, I want you to recognize how you upset me. I got a barista as well. I mean, people don't do that. I mean, it's like you just barged into my dress room. And wouldn't let them even put on my face before I went on stage. But you would do that. Who would do that? Oh my gosh. like you just barge into my address room, and wouldn't let him even put on my face before I went on stage. Who would do that?
Starting point is 00:31:05 Who would do that? Oh my gosh, so Sun you goes, can you tell us how you were upset? And Heather's like, okay, okay, guess what? We're missing the point, okay? Now we have to, especially as white people, we need to step off the curb, okay? And we need to give the apology
Starting point is 00:31:27 and then we need to move on because she was reacting to a trigger. Do you understand? She was, well, I'm sorry, I triggered you by saying angry. I mean, I really am. I'm sorry about it. I'm really, really sorry about it. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I'm sorry. I wasn't even drinking any alcohol at the time. I was, I mean, perhaps maybe I was trying to buy Sonya, but I'm really sorry about that. So she's like, well, Ebony goes, well, I received that and I accept it. And the reason why I don't want to say, I'm sorry, is that there's an expectation of me
Starting point is 00:31:56 apologizing for having a natural reaction to a very deep-seated triggering word and concept. And I can't apologize to you for that, Luan, but I wanted to acknowledge that my dear friend Leah cussed you all out and called you all host your faces and nobody called her angry in fact she was told Leah calm down calm down and come back to the table because she wasn't she wasn't held to stand out of anger and the way I go well I think she called all of them oh it's been on me so I mean I think we can all understand. Well, I didn't, you know, it's called a ranger.
Starting point is 00:32:26 She was like, no, I called you all host. So then Ramona goes, you know what? We gave her a pass because her grandmother's dying, okay. And he's like, my grandmother's dying too. I love that she was able to snatch away the grandma card. That was a great moment. Yeah. And then we see a clip of her telling, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:44 talking about her grandma being really sick as well. And just Ramona kind of staring off into space like, so then we come back and Ebony is like, listen, I take you at your word, but this whole thing about whose job it is to educate you. And I'll say, I'll say this to your faces and we're gonna go to the sun and it's like, not yours, it's not your job. That's for sure. You know what? I wasn't asking you to educate me, okay? I wasn't asking you, okay?
Starting point is 00:33:13 When I said, teach me, you have to teach me what I meant was you have to, you have to educate me, but not educate me. Okay, does that make sense? And everybody's like, no, you did ask. I mean, you asked sweetly, but you said you have to teach us. That's what you said, actually. She goes, well, you know what? I'm gonna teach you how to cook.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Okay, you teach me about race relations and I'll teach you how to do a cuisine. Okay. Listen, you know what? Would you rather not teach me about not being racist or would you rather know how to make a really good piece of salmon? Okay, so let me ask. I mean, it's like, we're not going to flex. So, I was like, you know what, the burdens
Starting point is 00:33:55 on us were white privilege ladies. Nobody's turning the page and moving forward. We have to read the page, feel the pain, be a little bit awkward, and then turn some more pages. I was like, yeah, so so yeah, so in your wow. So, Luann's like, well, maybe you could have a little bit more patience. Maybe that's what you can. She's like, I think I've already been pretty patient in Luann. Yeah, she's like, come on, you know the work I do. And Heather's like, we have the responsibility to change with our actions.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Okay, you don't just talk about recycling. You actually have two separate cans that you put bottles in. Okay, that's how to do it. Action makes change. And Leo's just sitting there going, why people and why women just like you need to shut up and less end. So like shut the fuck up, Heather, and let's listen. Okay, so Ebony is, you know, so basically they're all like, okay, so Luangos, well I
Starting point is 00:34:48 hope this was still the best day that we've had. I mean, I hope that my event day was still the best day. I mean, listen, we did still get a very large nut sack to draw. Am I right, girls? Let's not overlook that amazing lamb curry. And it's like I always say, the minute you think you're right, you begin to rot. Am I right? I mean, look at amazing lamb curry and it's like I always say the minute you think you're ripe you begin to rot Am I right? I mean look at Ramona over here. She's basically like a multi banana at this point So Evan he's like well, it was an honest day. So yes, I guess it was the best day. So then She's like have fun cooking. I'm not eating with you idiots. Okay. I'm gonna order some comfort food I'm going I don't have time to explain this. I'm going eating with you idiots. Okay, I'm gonna order some comfort food. Ice cream! I don't have time to explain this.
Starting point is 00:35:26 I'm going to my room. Okay. What's the comfort food? Is that food that comes from the comfort in? Sorry. Go ahead and establish me. Okay. I wanted to teach Ebony how to make a salmon,
Starting point is 00:35:36 but she's sitting in a bedroom eating a blanket. Okay? Don't understand. Okay. A choice. So, Lou Ann and Ebony do have actually a very nice, you know, they like, they, it was actually kind of shocking that Lewand, like it, that it only took one conversation to get through to Lewand, because normally it takes an entire season.
Starting point is 00:35:57 So that was shocking. So, but they, they do sort of, they do come to an understanding. You're a real strong bitch, aren't you so You know so then so then Ebony pulls over Sonia and she's like you know what you're a real queen And you need to know that about yourself and she's like no well I'm so I'm terrible as she's like and so now Ebony is on this thing where she feels like Sonia has allowed the group to classify her as a less than viable person and she thinks that Sonia's dope and powerful and a badass and You know she just feels bad because Sonia seems to have internalized it
Starting point is 00:36:32 Yeah, and Sonia's like yeah, but you know what the way this really honest because we've put down our black people for so long Just on your word shit, but he's like okay. Okay. We're past that. We're gonna get you laid now. Okay, so Heather. So everything, it feels like everything is, we're like, wow, this was actually a very productive scene and we got everyone got through it and move forward. And you know, like everything is great. Like what could go wrong? And then it's Heather.
Starting point is 00:37:02 So, Evony is in bed with Leah again, and Heather comes in and she's like, oh, great job today. That was great. Good job, Ebony, and she takes her stuff and she leaves, and she goes, you're very articulate by the way. I don't know if anyone's told you that, that.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Oh, and then she laughs at me. And I was just like, I was just, with that scrunch nose, that scrunch nose she gives you, like, oh God. And then every guy, a couple of people have told me that, have there, and then she just turned to the doorclose
Starting point is 00:37:39 and she turns to Lee and she goes, that's also a micro-aggression line away. Yeah. Yeah. She means well, that's also a micro aggression. Because it was you mean, as well, so we give her a pass. Oh, that was funny. So articulate. Oh my God. I'm like, it's like, um, so now with the next day, and Heather's just
Starting point is 00:38:00 outside looking at some geese that are flying around and she goes, thank you for that. That was so. Thank you, geese. Hey some geese that are flying around and she goes thank you for that that was so Thank you geese hey geese you're such flyers you are such flyers. I don't know if anyone's ever told you that So then Ramones was Sonia and she's like um she's like know what I was thinking about it like what if I With the only white girl in a room full of black women okay Could you imagine I have to empathize you know I've been that's all people and all their struggles and like I'm in my own Little world and thank God. Oh my God. Could you imagine if I weren't my own little world to be crazy, okay?
Starting point is 00:38:38 And she's holding these fans in front of her, you know like fan fans Like what are you doing and Sun Sun is just looking at her like, mm-hmm, yes, Ramona. Yes, Ramona, you're doing great. Ramona tells us, no, what? All of a sudden? I'm like Googling things,
Starting point is 00:38:54 and I'm like educating myself in ways that I never have before. Okay, wow, Google. Like, you know what? I just start with black ladies. I start with black ladies Black way Okay, oh my goodness, so then Ebony calls her friend Devon and starts telling her about Sonia because Devon's like a matchmaker and so she wants to
Starting point is 00:39:16 She wants to set up Sonia with a with a with a guy because she feels like Sonia deserves love Right because she's all down in the dumps and meanwhile while Sony was talking to Luan and she's like, yeah, well, I think that Ramona is just happy because she thought she'd be the first one to get into Snaffy with Ebony and now it's because it was you she just really elated Which is so funny Ramona's like it wasn't me whoa like that song shaggy, which I researched on Google. It wasn't me, okay Yeah, and so I'm just like I guess I'm next to say something really stupid. I was like, oh, you had your turn already You just don't know it yet Well, Luan goes well, let her enjoy it while the moment lasts which means like they're all just waiting for a monitor They all never monitor
Starting point is 00:39:59 Just gonna say something fucking stupid So Luan tells us kind of with fake tears now, because like Luanne has to know she's like in deep shit now on TV, you know. So she's like, well, I, I still feel, I still feel affected by last night. I mean, to feel that I've heard somebody that isn't non-union. It's just upsetting to me. It's very upsetting to me. Whoa, Luan and everyone who's around here, including Anita, our hospitality assistants, or Diane, or whatever her name is, okay?
Starting point is 00:40:37 Guess what? I've arranged to have a Fisher person come and meet us by the waterfront, okay? So, you know why? Because Sonia loves fishing, and you know what? Because Sonia loves fishing and you know what? I wanted to go to the beach and have a nice lunch. And since it's almost gonna be 30 degrees today, I thought let's go to the beach and sit outside
Starting point is 00:40:54 and eat food there. Okay. So they get ready to go to the beach. And of course, Leo's dress like, oh, lucky, I'm crazy dressing Leo. And Sonia's like, wow, you know, she's just so Leah. I've never asked if she's addressed appropriately for the event. I just say she's dressed as Leah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:14 And then so now they're all headed in a car to the beach. And Luanne's planning the party for the last night, which is gonna be a, it's for Halloween. So it's gonna be a 70s beauty pageant. And we get a flashback of Luan Planning this with Ramona in the city and she's like all right, so here's what I want to do I want to have I want to have something fun like a caution up because you know Ebony's next beauty queen. I was miskinetic it. I'm like, what does that have anything to do with Eddie? You just want to talk about that you're a miskinetic right? That's really nothing to do with this party
Starting point is 00:41:42 It also have a typo. I climbed an 1870s inspired beauty pageant. Like, wow. No, there's something out of that. Yeah, there's something. Oh, by the way, can we stop at the store on the way there? I want to pick up some M&M, you know, because I was miskinetic, you know, and now when he was a beauty pageant queen, you know, just that. So they get to the beach and it's like, fuck this, I'm not doing this. Okay, so she just walks to the side and it's like fuck this, I'm not doing this.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Okay, so she just walks to the side and the way I'm like, well we'll talk about props. So Luar and Leah go over there and the other ladies are meeting the fisherman guy, right? And so of course Sony is like, oh hi, you fish, I love fishing. I always get lucky, I'm a Sagittarius. I always catch a fish. I mean if I knew him a little bit better, she's like if I knew him a little bit better, I would have told him I was catching dick too. Oh, don't lie. So you told him that anyway. We all know. So I love that we're getting everybody signed today too.
Starting point is 00:42:45 When she says that. I love it. Uh, Luan is the same sign as a Ford. I think that's kind of funny. I know. I like that. It really works. I really.
Starting point is 00:42:56 So, uh, Mark is, uh, so he's just teaching him how to, how to fish and, Leah is twirling in hulu hoops. It's a nice throwback to that famous gift of Luhua and doing a hula hoop at Bethany's house. And that was the season when she was on the outs with Bethany, so she came to that party and tried to endure herself by doing her hoops. Yes, everybody was ignoring Luhua.
Starting point is 00:43:18 And so she went out on the lawn and did a hula hoop. That's what she do. So they're like fishing in the surf. And then Ebony is fishing. And she's like, and everyone's Ebony. Whoa. Get back. You're heading right into the jaws of the monster. Okay. And it goes to like commercial break. Well, I guess the cliffhanger implying that maybe Ebony is about to get swept off to sea and never seen from a guy. I know Ebony's dead. You know, and now come back. We have now lost the cast member, but it comes back and she just like walks back a few
Starting point is 00:43:48 feet. I was like, that was kind of a lame gluff anger. They're like, what was that? Yeah. So they all sit down and basically start talking, but Sony is still out with the guy, you know, and they're like, oh my god, she's going to fall in love with this guy. And Heather's still out there too. And she's like, I did it, I did it.
Starting point is 00:44:07 And he's like, that wasn't that bad. So Lou Ann's like, well, you know, Ebony, I'm glad that we walked through last night and we talked everything through, because I think very, very highly of you. I woke up with a pit in my stomach. It hurts so bad, and I thought, God, I hope I didn't hurt that woman who insinuated I was stupid. Ah. Ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:44:30 At my house. At my house. Oh, I hope I didn't do that. Wow. I haven't had a pit in my stomach. This large, since the time I forgot the lyrics to Money Makes the World Go. Line? What is it? World Go. Round. Round. money makes the world go line. What is it? World go round. Now, you know, there's one thing I forgot to give you when you left. So put your face next to mine and selfie. Okay, now when you've got that printed, bring it to me and I'll sign it with a sharpie. Oh, I feel better. You can sleep better tonight. I'll sleep better tonight. You know, I can't fix what's been happening in the world.
Starting point is 00:45:05 And of course, by that, I'm referring to declining tickets for Cabaret. I can't fix that all by myself, but I sure as hell can try. I can try, ladies. So, Evan, it's like, you know, there's a lot that I enjoy about these women, and maybe if I ever feel comfortable, there can be like really amazing things between us or whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:24 So then, Sonya's still fishing, and Ebony goes up to Sonia. She's like, what's on my hook? I think I caught something, what's on my hook. And Mark's like, that's the bait. She's like, that was a lot of work. So where's the part where Heather gets her? She's like, I mean, isn't it crazy that girls? You have to use something that small to attract a fish in this wide, wide ocean?
Starting point is 00:45:49 Yeah, that was when I think they first sat down. She's like, okay, mama, let me tell you, let me give you a little bit of my standup about fishing. I mean, what's the deal with fishing? You put a little bit of, you put a little bit of a little bait, mama, and the ocean. You're supposed to catch a fish and a whole wide ocean. Mama, I need a better activity. What a concept, mama. So, Ebony pulls Sonia aside, and she's like, listen Sonia, you know, we talk last night about how much I love you, and she's like,
Starting point is 00:46:14 it's nice to be seen. She's like, well, you welcomed me, and you stood up for me, and I love love. So, I called my friend, Devon, and she's in Philadelphia, and she's a matchmaker. And Sonia's like, oh, my my second home my kid goes to school there And I mean it's like we are going to find you a man and then at that moment Mark walks up He's like ladies has been a pleasure. She's like stay still
Starting point is 00:46:38 While that less desirable man walks away We're gonna find you a non-mark man. We're gonna find you a non-marked man. We're gonna find you a non-fisherman man. Okay. And she's like, you know, she makes me feel so special because she makes me feel like I could be worthy of deserving a man. It's like, oh, Sonia, come on. Of course you're worthy of deserving a man. You know, now, deserving of a trillionaire? I don't know. Sometimes you know, sometimes you just have to look for a man who's actually gonna love you too, you know? Yeah, like they don't, so the whole,
Starting point is 00:47:11 I need a rich banker thing isn't always gonna work, but you know, you can't find love. You can find rich love too. I just don't know if it's fulfilling soul-wise. Right, so now they are all sitting together at their eating and LeWand is talking about tonight. They're like talent show thing and she's like, oh Sonya, see that, see that bag next to all those batons, see those, that's a mime and get up. I got you a mime suit
Starting point is 00:47:35 for tonight, which is like the most undermining thing. I'm just gonna dress Sony up as a mime for this. Oh, in Ramona, you can do pushups in your evening dress. That's, that's the talent. That's about as close to talent as we can get out of your least, right? Right? We don't want you to disqualified Ramona. And Ramona goes, you know what? My only talent is cooking and making money. Gang. So what am I supposed to do? All work out. And oh, go ahead. That was going to say, so then Ebony invites all the women over to her place to watch the results on election day. And I was like, oh, you know what? I'm not gonna be available because I'm going to, uh, bar a cloggo.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Okay. I'm gonna be able to see it at your place. Okay. Sorry, because they need my plasma in Miami, okay? Or in Palm Beach. Sorry. They need my plasma in Miami, okay? Or in Palm Beach. Sorry. They need my plasma at a wonderful place called Darabago, okay?
Starting point is 00:48:32 It's like, wow, okay. So we're going from these problematic episodes to election results with the real housewives of New York. Are you fucking kidding me with this? We learned that lesson for the kids. I'm just gonna go with them. Carol Radswell's like, just flashbacks at Carol crying. So Leah's like, I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:48:55 Leah of course has the most teenager take. She's like, I'm just like, so I just got to bi-politics and can't stay on the way each side has become like, I don't even wanna partake. Okay, like I struggled in 2016 and then like, each side has become like I don't even want a partake okay like I struggled 2016 and then like and Heather like please don't come at me with some self-righteous but you need to vote thing okay I'm sure I know I wasn't gonna do that. I wasn't gonna do that at all. I was coming out with you with the question actually Are you gonna vote don't you really think I should vote?
Starting point is 00:49:22 She's like well if I vote it's gonna be for buy it in but it's not because I like him It's because I want shit to go back to freaking normal When was that? Okay, when was that exactly could you name that time when when shit was normal vote? Yeah, I also just don't think it's such a like I don't think it's this brilliant hot take to think that politics suck right now I think we all agree about that, okay, and I think that like, I don't, I think it's really funny that she's accusing Heather of being self-righteous when Leah is the one making their self-righteous stance
Starting point is 00:49:53 about politics. Like that's what it is. That's the rest of the episode. Is Leah right? Because she's saying I struggled in 2016. No, you're asked to info in 2016. It's on a watch what happens, Clipper, a reunion, Clipper, something that's going around.
Starting point is 00:50:05 You've already said it publicly. So she's already thinking that Heather's going to give her shit. So now she's yelling at Heather already for giving her shit. Heather's not really, and also people, you know, you're saying like you stand for minorities in this and that. You kind of do that. If they don't want to move, yeah, you kind of have to listen. And you're going to be as irresponsible to go on to national television and question whether or not it's worth it to vote. I, you kind of have to listen. And you're gonna be as irresponsible to go onto national television
Starting point is 00:50:25 and question whether or not it's worth it to vote. I'm sorry, I think I'm on team Heather for this one. I've said this many times, like politics is choosing one steaming pile of shit over another steaming pile of shit. I mean, it's like you said, it's not that deep of a take, but you still have to pick the steaming pile of shit
Starting point is 00:50:42 that's gonna let you have equal rights, okay? Yeah, you did You do it or you just don't complain about it, you know, but I prefer you to actually, like, you should vote everyone should vote regardless of what side you want. And you can't be, you can't think that you're gonna sit in a group of your friends and say, well, I don't know if I'm gonna vote. And then nobody's allowed to say anything to you. My friends share like that. Yeah, isn't that literally the issue with politics? Is that like people feel like everything's become so partisan that you can't step outside the what your group says? And so here is Leah saying like,
Starting point is 00:51:14 I'm so sick of the way it is right now. And don't say something that would challenge my thought. You know, yes. Like Heather was not being righteous at all. And she was, she was pretty chill. She's like, well, she, she, she, she literally goes, well, so then go vote. No pressure.
Starting point is 00:51:27 That's the only way you can make a difference. And so Leah is like, I feel like this is another way for Heather to be morally superior. I like, of course, I'm going to vote, but I'm voicing my dissatisfaction. I'm like, no, you're going on national TV and questioning whether or not you're going to participate in vote, which is a different thing. And it is, I think, actually a little irresponsible if you're on TV. Emily is like, well, I just feel like everyone's in a cult.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Like voting is just like cul-tee, okay? Politics is just cul-tee. And others are like, I'm not a cult. Should I get over it, Heather? She's like, God, you're gross, mama. She's gross, so me to me. Antihala, antihala. That's an interesting thing. Mama, to me. Anti-halla, anti-halla. That's a huge thing.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Mama, in my mind, I'm thinking, oh, you better be careful, Leah. These are like the first signs. Because when Heather drops her like mama, she gets so vicious, I don't feel like Leah truly appreciates that. And I'm like scared of Leah. No. No, of course not.
Starting point is 00:52:28 That's why I'm like, I mean Heather, I mean Heather for sure does things this episode that are like just cringe worthy. Heather. But she has like a, she has like a steely underside that I feel like people do not appreciate and I get so excited when it comes out
Starting point is 00:52:44 and I just, you can feel it, come, you feel it. So now all the ladies are getting ready and they're practicing their talents for the show. And Ramona and Sonia are in a room. And Ramona's like lifting these weights. She's like, well, you know what? Hoy, I'm Ramona. Am I talent?
Starting point is 00:52:59 It's working out. It's appent-less. It's appent-less. It's only because, how heavy are those? And she's like five pounds. It's only because. That's really heavy. I know, but that's how I get toned and look ageless. Okay, like my daughter such best friend Avery. Okay. So listen, I'm contestant number two. My name is Ramona. I'm from New York City. Oh, I mean, we're all from New York City. You know what this beauty page sucks. I am sorry. I'm sorry. So then Ebony
Starting point is 00:53:31 Italy are downstairs and Lou everyone's in glam again. At this time, it actually makes more a little bit more sense because of because you know, they are getting dressed for caution party. Although actually one of our listeners gave a very thoughtful response to to something I said last week, because I was going on my usual rant about glam, glam, glam, and she said, you know, it just, you know, it sucks for Ebony because she sort of has to do this because like there's just like on, on, I'm, I'm totally nuts. This is, I'm not paraphrasing it in a very articulate way, but basically saying, there's just like unfair expectations and standards of women of color being on TV, etc. And so I totally do respect that by
Starting point is 00:54:09 the way. I don't think I really, I didn't say that on the podcast and so I do feel a little bad if people felt like I was glossing over that. That is definitely a thing. And so I totally totally acknowledge that, but I'm just talking, when I talk about glam, I'm talking about the general overall, Erica Jane Nys of everything on Bravo, but I just wanna bring that point up, okay? So they're all in their glam, what run? Huh?
Starting point is 00:54:32 You look like you're about to say something. I'm not, I'm just about to read notes. So, the way I'm like, well, you know, here's what I want. We have a pick of the 70s of Jacqueline Smith, so I'm like, so she's going on, but Lee is getting a call about her grandma. So she walks off balling about her grandma, which sat, and then she goes into the bathroom and starts sobbing.
Starting point is 00:54:53 It's like, oh, look at that. We're going to see her again. You just hear all this stuff. And she's like, by mom, and then she comes out totally like, hello. Yeah, she's like, I'm so excited. Right, I go to a costume party. Yeah. Hello Yeah, she's like, hi, I go to a costume party. Yeah, so yeah, and oh, and then she says that she would go to see her grandma tonight Except that her grandma's not responsive so it doesn't really matter and plus her family is so big
Starting point is 00:55:13 She wouldn't even be able to get into the room. It's like, okay, so then So but Ebeneen's consoling me because Leah's really, you know broken up about this which you know I mean how could you not be? And, um, and so, meanwhile, Heather is upstairs on her phone researching how to do cheerleading routines. She's like, okay, foot forward, mama, foot back. It's cold in here. There must be some mamas in this atmosphere. Okay, I think I got that mama. M-A-M-M-A-S. Why did we spout mamas?
Starting point is 00:55:57 So then Ebony is finding, you know, she's trying to fix Leop and being my store and stuff. And so then, so yes, in her room, YouTube being what mimes do. She gets a hankerchief and she's holding it like down in her hand, but it's like at her who are whatever and she's like pulling the vagina, pulling the vagina out of her hand. You know what I'm saying? She's pulling the angus out of her vagina. Which is so good in a fashion show. It's like look at all the things I can pull out of my vagina. It's like what do you have in your purse? You know, what do you have in your vagina? Cabalesque. So Heather, Heather goes up to Sonia and she's like, you know, I have to tell
Starting point is 00:56:33 you, Mama, y'all friend Leah is just so rude to me. She's like, don't be right. Just me. I mean, you're the one who said you're not going to vote because you're so disgusted, right? Mama, right?? Right? Oh man. Oh my gosh, so then Ebony and Leah are talking and Ebony's like, oh my God, so when we got back, Heather brings up the podcast thing again, and you know, I told her, right to her face, said, I'm bored with this.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I'm bored with this discussion about the podcast. And Leah's like, oh, you know what? I just don't like when someone has to be the authority on everything. I mean, race, oh, you know what? I just don't like when someone has to be the authority on everything. I mean, race, voting, dead grandmother. It's like, she's just at the forefront of it all. Which is true. You know, gotta give Lee a bat one.
Starting point is 00:57:12 And Evan, he's like, well... But also, Lee, Lee reads into that too. Like, she definitely projects her own shit onto these women that, like, yeah, how there is like the... How does Holla explain everything? She really does. She really... She Holla explains, but Leah's also very sensitive to feeling like people are being, you know, marm, like school marms to her.
Starting point is 00:57:32 It's like a bad combination between the two of them. Yeah, so she, uh, Evanie is like, well, you know what? I mean, I told her, look, Leah, I'll tell you, the stakes are very high with my existence in this country. Like voting is important. And she was, oh, did she say that? She was, well, I mean, she said
Starting point is 00:57:48 that we have a responsibility to vote, but, you know, Ebony just said that to you. Like, Ebony just said that to you and you're fine with it. But she knows the other side is. So now she's like, that's it. We're done. We are done.
Starting point is 00:58:02 My God. So then Leah goes out to the balcony and she's like, Heather, why are you talking about me and what I said? Let's not forget, by the way, that like for three episodes, leading up to this trip, Leah was just like talking about Heather and bringing up Heather. There's so much she doesn't really know, talking about a podcast about other people,
Starting point is 00:58:20 like something that's really not her fight to have. And she's spent so much time talking about Heather behind her back and now she's like why are you talking about me on what I said? Do not talk about if I want to vote or not because it's done of your business. Your white feminism one-on-one. You were the fucking problem. You think you're the authority on everything. Do not talk to me. Do not talk to me about anything I say. Like why do you have to be at everyone's business like a Karen? Yeah Karen, it's a phrase on the internet that I know about. And it's none of your business. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:58:50 Heather looks at her, goes, not really. Yeah, she pulls the old Lou Ann. You know, don't say that Heather doesn't learn anything because she came back with the Lou Ann's best line. It's like, yeah, really? So then she laughs and leaves like, fuck off, literally, fuck off off do not talk to my friend I don't mean and she's like marching and how there's like oh my gosh you have some kind of anger which I can say
Starting point is 00:59:15 Okay, Leah and Leo's like well, I don't care about what you have to say well clearly Listen just be quiet for one second like you don't have to be part of every single conversation. Oh, really? You're not in this conversation. And then wasn't she the one freaking out when she wasn't included in Ramona's conversation, stalking all over the house, yelling and screaming that Ramona was trying to have a pri-
Starting point is 00:59:40 Leah, just- Yes, you're right. I don't even want to, I saw that pointed out on the internet. And I was like, that is so're right. I don't even want to- I don't even want to, or I saw that pointed out on the internet. And I was like, that is so fucking true. I can't even. It's like arguing with someone else's teenager. You know, it's like, I don't have to deal with you. I don't want to, okay?
Starting point is 00:59:54 Go fuck with your parents about this. I just want to get dry for wigs. You are the problem. Karen's like you. You are the problem. Also saying Karen, you know, Karen is a term to describe like a racist white lady. Like that's how they started. It was like, Karen's were like the racist ladies who were like, you don't belong in this
Starting point is 01:00:14 neighborhood. I'm calling the police, you know, it's like Leah doesn't even know what she's calling people. I know I actually thought it was pretty, she's sort of calling an ally that even if I mean even if Heather is you know she clearly you know messes up and white splans whatever but she's still like attempting to sort of be aligned with you know with with Leah and and Leah is calling her a Karen it just feels actually a little unproductive to me you know yeah so and also she's like boomer Karen My god, we're up. So
Starting point is 01:00:50 Leah's like fuck off literally fuck off So then let's see where are we here? So Heather goes it's just such an outlandish display I mean she sounds like a dingbat. Okay. I'll say that. Did I curse? I'm sorry. Dingbat. We're just like a very mom way of insulting her. Yeah. Because Heather is still very Heather. So then Luan is like,
Starting point is 01:01:14 well, you all look fabulous, girls. You all look absolutely fabulous. So Ebony, Ebony then comes downstairs because she doesn't want to seem like she's like some gossip talking shit about Heather and she's like, this is what I said. I said, I feel that like, I said, I feel as you feel that everybody
Starting point is 01:01:32 that can vote in this election should. And Lise, I knew that dumb bitch was gonna talk about me. I knew it. I knew it. And then Lia does that thing again, where she runs back into the room to start screaming again when the conversation's trying to move on, you know. And she's like, you don't care if I vote, you just care if I vote for who you want.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Aaron Monis says, I'm like, call. Well, wouldn't these most people feel that way, by the way? Don't most people care if people want people to vote the way they're voting? Isn't that kind of a thing? Isn't that like why people campaign and were like, I put up signs, right? I think that's like a pretty normal thing. So Lee is like, my grandmother is dying.
Starting point is 01:02:13 And she's like, you went up to Ebony and said it's irresponsible, not for me to vote. It is, okay. Sorry, it is. And you're gonna hear that from like any fucking mature adult. That's the most partisan thing of all time is that it's irresponsible if you don't vote. It truly is. I'm sorry. And if you don't and or maybe I should say it's irresponsible. If you don't vote and then you complain about the way things are.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Yeah. So then Ebony's, she said, you said I was irresponsible and Heather goes, did I use that word Ebony? That specific word and she's like, yeah, I think I think that you did. And Ramona's like, well, you know, there goes Leah. Now she's unleashing on Heather. Just like she unleashes on me. Good job in fighting Heather. Me, okay. My name is Ramona Shinga. And'm like talent is padding both of my shoulders same time Goodness, so let's see where are we I got a little loss in all this because it's so worth the end Okay, so we go to the bears. They're packing up in the van to go and Lee is like oh fuck this and the Wands in there And so Leah comes into the van and Leaha, who's just started this huge fight,
Starting point is 01:03:27 Screamed at everybody, made everybody, you know, feel like shit. Right, goes in the van and she's like, well, so much for a fun night! It's like, oh my god, you did this! Everyone was like in a great mood, everyone looks great, they're having fun. Leigha is not in a problematic costume. So there has been some growth. And it's gonna be a great, wonderful night. And you're the one going nuts.
Starting point is 01:03:51 I mean, admittedly she is going through a, I'm sorry, no, no, no, no. I agree, but I'm sorry. I'm giving, I'm just saying, I'm giving her, I'm just, I'm leading by example. By giving, I'm rescinding the ass. The band is giving. No, I'm giving by example, by giving, rescinding the ass that Ben is giving. Nope.
Starting point is 01:04:05 No, I'm giving a shred of grace, but otherwise I'm, but I'm still saying like whatever you're still acting like a lunatic, you actually shouldn't even, she shouldn't even be there in the first place. Leah acts like this always at every event. Whether or not her grandmother is dying. So I'm not gonna give her that grace.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Like I'm sorry that your grandmother is dying. Like it has nothing to do to me. It's like you don't get to use that as an excuse to act like this. You ruin the whole country. Yeah, because Ebony is going to the same thing. Ebony is going to the same thing. And you ruin the whole trip and you're kind of ruining the show. You ruin the whole.
Starting point is 01:04:37 It's like how many episodes do you get to ruin with this bullshit? It's not fun. Well, I don't like it. I think it's entertaining still, but I think it's sort of sad too. Like it's a very, very primal regression that she really becomes like a 12 year old. And so Lia's in there having a tantrum in the limo and Luann's like, oh, I forgot the hoops.
Starting point is 01:04:58 I forgot the hoops. So she leaves and Lia's like, oh, please only me in the van with her. Please only me in the van with her because Heather's getting on board. And there goes, goes oh relax bitch Relax bitch and Leo's like oh And then she's standing up and getting in Heather's face and yelling at her you're gonna call me a bitch
Starting point is 01:05:17 Just go just fucking go hurry up girls. They're gonna kill each other the bad hurry up Girls are gonna kill each other the bad hurry up Cam and so these like I'm not going I'm not going with her so Least or I'm just like I'm not going I'm gonna go see him on my grandmother. I'm not gonna go. I'm not going with either I don't want to talk to her or see her. She's a psycho Literally all she did was say that you should vote and then she told Abbie that she thinks that you should vote And guess what we're all saying it now congratulations. You made it a thing We're now the whole audience is being like what the fuck is wrong with you vote I mean does she just get furious at election time in general where every sign is like vote your vote calms
Starting point is 01:05:59 Kelly Clarkson doesn't happen in a vacuum. It's because of voting. Okay, you have to vote You're saying that that's a good thing that Kelly Clarkson happened am I right? doesn't happen in a vacuum. It's because of voting. Okay, you have to vote. You're saying that that's a good thing that Kelly Clarkson happened. Am I right? Or are you suggesting that that's a bad thing? It's like, walk the fuck out of this room. If you suggest that Justin Goreini should have been voted into American Idol. Oh hell no. Oh hell no. No. I was afraid for a moment there that you were going to say you didn't like Kelly Clarkson We both scared each other we both scared each other that we both had a moment of self-doubt in our in our in our Nearly ten-year podcast relationship like wait have we never realized that one of us doesn't like this? This divorce is this is happening? We both love Kelly Clarkson guys.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And by the way, at the end of the day, when things are tough, and things are strained, and we have these difficult conversations, just remember, there's Kelly Clarkson. There's always Kelly Clarkson. Something we can all gather around, Kelly Clarkson. Yeah, guys, well, that was the end of Real Housewives of New York City, everybody.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Yes, a very front episode with tough conversations, but good conversations and It was what that was that was an episode that was an episode. I think this season is Is really after a slow start has really just like it's just It's going going full steam. I'm really enjoying Yeah, I'm enjoying the season, but Leah needs to come up with a new stick because it's, I'm tired. It's called therapy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Um, so you guys were all the fly's water. She needs some parenting. I want to see her mother come on the show and find the parent her. Okay, smack her with a fly's water. Get a wooden spoon in your glove compartment. I don't care, hit her. Dude, spanker, I mean, hit her.
Starting point is 01:07:45 You know, do whatever you need to do, but fix her, because I can't. Okay, everybody, we'll see you next time. Yeah, oh, do we ever mention this is crap is on demand? It's on demand. So I don't know what I just drank a fresh coffee so I've got George Washington wooden teeth over here.
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