Watch What Crappens - RHOP: Mommy Tissues

Episode Date: November 9, 2021

It's part one of The Real Housewives of Potomac season 6 reunion, and out the gate we're talking about the salad fight, Gizelle's house, and Candiace's temper. These women always bring it, an...d this episode was no exception.Get tix to our live shows: https://www.watchwhatcrappens.com/10th-anniversary-hunky-dory-tour/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Watch What Crapins Add Free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. Get ready for a double load of Queen of Hearts. It's me, Jujubee, and I return to guide sexy singles through some ronchy blind dates. Cameras off. Voice only. Launching during pride. Queen of Hearts takes Miami by storm, with Daeders' Cuppe from Tampa Bayes, Just Chas, and Brittany Brave to name a few. Follow Queen of Hearts on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to Watch Our Crappins, a podcast about all that crap on bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, joining me today is just a wonderful, wonderful man. to watch our crap ends, a podcast about all that crap on bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, joining me today is just a wonderful, wonderful man.
Starting point is 00:01:09 It's Mr. Roddy Karam. How's it going? Well, hi, Ben. How are you doing today on this big Monday? Oh my gosh. Good. I'm a little real housewives of Salt Lake City, hungover. My goodness.
Starting point is 00:01:21 That was just so much housewives of one night. We did a nighttime recap. And so I was loopy and then I couldn hungover. I mean, my goodness. That was just so much house-wise. And one night we did a nighttime recap. And so I was loopy. And then I couldn't sleep. And then I was dreaming, how are you? Like Lisa Barlow in my dreams. And then, got up and did some pitiliness.
Starting point is 00:01:36 So I'm ready to jump into petomes. Yeah, I also did not get a lot of sleep. And I'm feeling very crazy. I feel like I'm not even present. I feel like I'm just like my mouth is moving, but who knows what's coming out. I'm like Candice herself, basically. Um, by the way, tonight is take a seat night.
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Starting point is 00:02:55 And today we open with the horror chandeliers. It's like a horror movie chandelier and horror sounds in the background because we hear Nicki Minaj doing a voiceover. And I personally can't wait for Nicki Minaj. But I know people are pissed off that she's not back, and she's got lots of crazy shit going on.
Starting point is 00:03:16 But she's on TV. Like I can't catch it from the TV. So I find it. I don't think you can, but you never know these days, huh? I guess you never do. Could you imagine what a irresponsible television just when you think it can't get worse. They're like, TV is infecting people with COVID.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I know. The blue cow virus. There's like nine million different strands of it. Strings of it. What? Ever, okay. I'm just glad to see Nicki Minaj come on and drag some people. I know, I like the idea of people are scared
Starting point is 00:03:48 that the vaccine is gonna track them while they all, while we all have like these TVs that are like literally watching us in our living rooms, like Black Mirror style. So anyway, so as always, as per tradition for Aurelion, we are the women are arriving at the Weston for glam. So they're they're showing up and Andy's basically going from room to room. Be like, Hey, how's it going? I'm in your hotel room. Yeah. Um, and Candice comes in dressed dancing around
Starting point is 00:04:18 with her makeup people and Robin's big line of the whole episode. Robin comes in and she goes, I'm awake. Which is pretty much sums up Robin's season, right? And then Andy walks in kind of stumbling through the hallway, I think. He's probably still exhausted from Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, too. Like, hey. So he goes over to Karen first, of course. And he's like, get ready.
Starting point is 00:04:42 How do you feel about the season? Well, Andy, we had a lot of fun. I's like, yeah, I don't even feel about the reason. Well, I'm fine. I'm fighting to you. So I am looking forward to the first parade for the announcement of Stereocompey. And then he walks in on Ashley and she's like getting dressed. Is this a bad time because it seems like a great segment to ask you, how are your boobs?
Starting point is 00:05:06 Are they still your own? Did you get them any larger? Just preloading the questions. Well, I know she's got her hands down her boobs to you trying to adjust them in her dress. So it's a perfect time for him to come in. Yeah. And then he checks it on Jacelle.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And Jacelle of all people is like, I think it's time, we have a conversation. I'm just a little bit more focused on the thing that I'm doing. I'm just a little bit more focused on the thing that I'm doing. I'm just a little bit more focused on the thing that I'm doing. I'm just a little bit more focused on the thing that I'm
Starting point is 00:05:37 doing. I'm just a little bit more focused on the thing that I'm doing. I'm just a little bit more focused on the thing that I'm doing. I'm just a little bit more focused on the thing that I'm doing. I'm just a little bit more focused on the thing that I'm doing. I'm just a little bit more focused on the thing that I'm doing. I'm just a little bit more focused on the thing that I'm gonna say, I'm like, why not just say it to my fans, and be calling.
Starting point is 00:05:46 And then Andy, and then Andy walks into Wendy's room. He's like, Zen, when you smell great, just, oh, it's on yay, it's on yay. So, you know, promoting her candles, et cetera. Lifestyle brand. He's like, okay, I don't care. So, are you gonna yell at Jezele today? She's like, I hope she owns up to the fact
Starting point is 00:06:05 that she's being messy and he, so then he comes into Kansas' room and he's like, drive back, drive back him. Oh yeah, drive back, can't get it out of my head. Gandace. He's like totally doing a dad dance as he boogies into her room. Yeah, and she goes, Andy, I come in peace.
Starting point is 00:06:22 I no longer am the Twitter disaster. There are others who've graduated. And then we see a tweet of from Mia that says like, we're wearing designer living in a town or townhouse with your mother Wonder why we haven't seen your luxurious lavish house house wife lifestyle whole ass ass spell with two dollar signs. Nah, college kid. I'm a boss bitch with the eye as a dollar sign. Hashtag me Thornton with a CEO emoji. Try again. And I love how the editor has made certain phrases big like. Yeah. House band is really big and then tossing my salad is also really big. And then her hashtag is Sue Shelf, which I'm not really sure what that is, but I cracked up anyway. Sue Shelf. I also, I like Candace saying that she's no longer a Twitter,
Starting point is 00:07:09 the Twitter disaster. I'm like, just because Mia is a Twitter disaster, doesn't mean that you're no longer the Twitter disaster. You're still, you, like, you're still the worst one. You're still Candace, okay? You're still Candace. So then, Candace is like, but I will say, if you knock on a my door, he's like,
Starting point is 00:07:28 you're gonna blow up, I love it, can't wait to yell at you later. It's gonna be great. All right, everybody, let's get seen in. And Wendy's just at the craft services, looking for cheese puffs. Yeah, and then they've got these enormous sofas this year, but they're very like way fair outdoor
Starting point is 00:07:45 Sectional vibes going on right there with like some teak, etc And so but they're like they're huge and so the women are coming out and Ashley's out there And he's like wow you look like a Barbie doll. She's like well, I'm darby's darby's Barbie. That's what I am Derby's firebie. Oh gross and then me is the first one out there, and she's just sitting there, and she's like, I am a new less awesome, waiting for hours. Finally, I started bringing my computer
Starting point is 00:08:15 because time is money, honey. And he's like, wow, smart. Like, he doesn't seem to like her at all. So Karen comes out and her hot pink, and then when comes out, and she's got a folder, which we already see it's holding like a FedEx Kinko's size poster board. Yeah, I don't know how she did that.
Starting point is 00:08:33 And then Andy's like, there's still waiting on Candace. He's like, will you tell Candace, I'm a drive back to New York City if she doesn't come out soon? Drive back. So everybody's there Everybody hi Andy Cohen welcome to season six reunion Joining me of a gorgeous women on foot so Mac this season was as let as a three-wink candle
Starting point is 00:09:09 What what do you call a candle that doesn't know how to get home? A candle that needs to drop back, drop back, and get that canvas, because your name actually has a little bit of candle in it, but not all the word. So he asked Jacelle if her kid drove her badly to the set. And then he tells Candice Congrats on your the link job. And she's like, yes, deep space is in a deep space. What's which is great.
Starting point is 00:09:34 That's great to hear that the Martians are digging it. So Dan Andy's like, well, I heard you got a shout out from the Anita Baker. She's like, yes, yes, I did. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much. Which also is I'm wondering how that worked out. Like the idea of like a Anita Baker sort of intersecting with Candace Dillard in some way, like in her life. I just don't see it. It's a strange thing to me. Strange talk to me. Well, it's kind of it's kind of amazing and it's also kind of scary. Like, what's going on
Starting point is 00:10:09 over there, Anita? But the tweet was also not like, oh my god, this song's amazing, Candace. Wow. Anita Baker is dancing in her living room right now, Candace. It just said women, next line supporting, next line women. hashtag, the real cantis delayed. It felt very much like the cameo version of Twitter, like someone paid her $30 to say, can you write this? It was so list. So then, um, cantis is honored, you know, what she, you know, it's fun to shit on her, but that is really cool that it need a make-art tweet to her.
Starting point is 00:10:43 So then Andy's like, oh, hi Wendy, going to be hard for me to raise my eyes because you're serving happy and mess. She's like on a platypione Andy, on a platypione. Yeah. Mia, hello, it's your first reunion. Are you going to be tossing any salad today? Is there any salad? Maybe some fruit?
Starting point is 00:11:04 I can toss the fruit Don't threaten me. We've got a rule against that since Teresa tried it. Oh, I care and I care We're not in Surrey County, but is Surrey County and you Yeah, every time you see Karen he does this by the way've seen him do this line with Karen like a million times now. Yeah, really? Because she goes, always, sorry is always in me. Sorry, Ham, the best thing to have inside you.
Starting point is 00:11:38 So Andy's like, Robin, am I seeing some embellished culture? It's like, well, it's not from embellished, but it is embellished by hobby lobby stuff. We're trying to save some money Andy, right? It was like, this is done by Glugan. This is a dress by Glugan Andy. Glugan.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Hi Ashley, you came in and I said that you look like a Barbie doll. And you know, since I know we just showed it to the audience about two minutes ago, but let's reenact it. So I said, you look like a Barbie doll and you said, I'm typey. It's barbie. And that's what Michael calls me. Oh, still so good. So good. Oh, so let's see. Actually likes me has dressed the best. And then Abby's like, she's, we had a question about your
Starting point is 00:12:27 fashion. Peanut butter asks if you have always had the same stylist and she's like, yes, saw the same. It's like, well, how's that been successful for you? What was that journey like? And she's like, yes, saw it has been successful for me. And he's like, yes, it has been successful for me. And he's like, well, the ladies believe for styling has improved over the 11 years. And Candace is like, well, I don't agree with a lot of your choices and just, well, I don't agree with a lot of your,
Starting point is 00:12:56 but they look good on you. Wow. Yes, but what's fine for me is probably fine for others too. You know, so then Karen's like, listen, we can't expect any proof of it from Jizz out. That's just going to be. And Jizz out gives an offended, I mean, Kinsh is just, I'll just have one day where people aren't ragging on her clothes.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I mean, there's so much about Jizz out to rag on, you know? Yeah, but they're close suck, but they're not that bad, are they? Well, but it's also one of those things, like it's just something that's so easily fixable and she's just sort of like, you know, not willing to change up this, whoever this stylist is that like, basically, you know, leaves through a z gallery catalog
Starting point is 00:13:36 and then decides to find the, the sartorial version of that. Like maybe it's time to have an updated, you know, person on the team to help. Isn't that Cal though? Does anybody really want to fire Cal? No, I think Cal is here. Listen, Cal is not like Mikey Minden. Okay, Mikey Minden is a catch all day. He does hair, he does style, he does choreography, he does makeup, he like fetches tender greens, like whatever he, whatever he needs to do.
Starting point is 00:14:01 He does a little caulking in the bathroom with he needs to. He literally does everything that Erica needs him to do because like his that's what his life is based around is being like the gay best friend, but cow is like I have a salon so I'll do your hair and I'll show up and I'll help you you know make crabs at Sheree's house, but that's about it. about it. Before we dig in, we have a very special video from a Potomac superfan we hope would be here. Anita Baker taking away. She's like, what the fuck am I doing on here? What is this? Am I being paid for this? Am I being paid? Yeah, it's like someone found like a like a T-Mobile sidekick and shot a video on it of Nicki Minaj who's like a whole different Nicki Minaj than I've ever seen like wow I mean like Nicki out of makeup was a very different experience and she just sends like this video being like oh sorry I wish I could be there but I can't be there so have a fun
Starting point is 00:15:01 time girl and they're really kind of like gilding the lily about the fact that they're gonna surprise the women Later on with Nicki Minaj, so and he's like wow that was wild she wanted to be sitting in this chair host in the reunion But unfortunately she can't make it cuz she's stuck in the Himalayas. Oh, God. She's so possibly far away, right? Wow, that is amazing. I'm a is amazing I'm a Bob I'm a Bob so he's like well sorry didn't work out ladies. I'm sorry. Unfortunately she just can't be here because she had all her limbs amputated so she just can't come by. Sorry I hope no one has their hopes up. So Mia, not much I can say about you in books.
Starting point is 00:15:49 I'm assuming that you don't read them, but you are kind of an open one. But is any good chiropractic mogul knows every good story as a few cracks. Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, and then it's Mia's segment. Yeah. The old crack in the story, montage.
Starting point is 00:16:08 So we see this like Mia's whole thing and then he's like, so Mia, how did you like the experience of joining this group? And as we like to just to reiterate, it's a group that does not include Nicki Minaj, you will not be here. Go on. And spend a while lining. Let me tell you. And Wendy's just like, like Wendy's just making dirty looks this whole episode for no reason. Also, why is she sitting right next to Andy? Why? I think it's why isn't that
Starting point is 00:16:37 Karen. It's a little surprising. It should, it should be Karen, but I think it's because Wendy has just like a, I mean, her fight was kind of the center of the season, even though Candace and Mia had had a big blow up, it was really just, I feel like the season was about the, the, like Wendy's boobs and then the, like, the, what's the right word? The falling apart of her relationship with Jacelle and Robin. The assembly, the devolution, devil, I can't, I told you I don't know what to say. Start tutorial, start tutorial.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Just say that. Yeah. So he's like, you know, oh, sorry, Ashley said, it ends with the clip of Ashley saying, that's a lot of money to pay for someone's time. 10 grand, just to talk. So she says it's a wild ride, and he's like, Candace, what was your first impression of me?
Starting point is 00:17:31 She's like, well, at first, I loved her, at first. And she's like, well, first impressions were great. But we had a rocky road. But I love that she owned her shit, and Candace is like, not really, she did a lot of lying too. She's like, well, she's honest about her plastic surgery, yeah, and cantisus like a lot of lie. Yeah, and she's like, she's like,
Starting point is 00:17:53 well, she lied about everything, so why didn't you say that, da, he asked you about that. He asked you first, da, so, so cantisus like, well he asked me about my first impressions and well what an anyway about Well, you lied about your clip surgery Just well, I spoke to my plastic surgeon and he said it's all on the same space and like it's all the same thing So the girls need to grow up. I mean what's gonna happen? Are you guys gonna be talking forever next time if I get a vaginal miss really?? I mean it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Yeah, you said those girls need to grow up. So what did you get a little plastic, a giant old rejuvenation? Did you get your we miss put on your earlobe? Or am I just seeing things funny? Because I'm sitting right I'm sitting a little far from you mentioned on Twitter you had a Tesla battery put in there You know any truth to that? It's like nothing beats the power of the Sun me happy I'm king and I actually had a lot done in that same surgery
Starting point is 00:18:55 Tear vagina Yes, I'll be Well, I was sort of like a mommy make over when he he was like, no, that was not a mommy makeover. And so then Mia had three C-sections. And he's like, so if you had C-sections, why did you need to get your vagina tuned up? Which reminds me, this just came in. Nicki Minaj's car is getting tuned up. So if she even wanted to drive somewhere today, she couldn't.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Okay, go on. I just wanted a tune-up and I'm being tuned. So if she even wanted to drive somewhere today, she couldn't. Okay, go on I just wanted a tune-up and I'm being serious. You go through and question everybody at a jiffy loop, too And then Wendy's like well, you said your favorite position is missionary and Which figures kind of because missionaries are always passing the donation plate around right and Andy is like What's wrong with missionaries? I just don't understand how it beats you a push up if that's mission air. What the fuck does that mean? How does your penis, like how does a penis have any worst chance beating the up and any other way? I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Yeah, I don't know. And Andy did say, well, also we don't know the size of Gordon's equipment. So now bring it from the Bronx, hey, Mia, you were a stripper or an escort or what? Who's paying 10,000 hours to talk to you in a ball gown? Which is a good question. Well, that's very common in high and upscale as scamblitioners. And Candace is just giving a look.
Starting point is 00:20:20 The woman who's never had a job in her life, P.S. worries about how other people make their coin all the time. So where is this organization? She got to last probably because she's never heard it called an organization. And Candace is like, yeah, the lobster in steak joint, and she's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's a strict club in North Carolina. I know because I had to bring a home DNA test to it when I got a letter in the mail about, I mean, I got coupons in the mail for it. And stick it lobster, North Carolina. Yeah, it's called the men's club.
Starting point is 00:20:52 And, and Mia's like, yeah, Gordon, he basically, he helped build the VIP area upstairs. He's like the number one client. And she's like, yes, yes, that's true. I've read that into coupon. And he's like, really? Help build it. We built this city on cock and ho, Andy. So it's the always says. Raising kids can be one of the greatest rewards of a parent's life. But come on, someday, parenting is unbearable. I love my kid, but is a new parenting podcast from Wondry that shares a refreshingly honest
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Starting point is 00:22:31 he had a heart I fell for him there's no bigger disaster to give money to the mean amy I knew what would work out also I just really really like the white clef version of We Are the World and so does Gordon. So it just really worked out. So Karen's face is just like, she's doing that thing where she like, her eyes bulge and like her, she like raises her neck up a little bit, sort of like, mirror-strip and death becomes her like,
Starting point is 00:22:59 woo. Lots of like lips-macking, lots of disapproving, like lots of teeth moving around in there. So me and I was like, you know, I mean, when I saw how generous he was, I said, oh, Ken, you're not just this crazy man walking around with no shoes in the strap club. And they're like, what? What?
Starting point is 00:23:19 No shoes in the strip club. He goes, well, yeah, because he would drop his shoes off at the shoe shine guy and guess like, are I'm like, well, yeah, because he would drop his shoes off at the shoe shine guy and guess, I got her. I'm like, well, first of all, don't normally people like keep their shoes on their feet when they're getting a shoe shine. And also, if it's a sort of place where you drop off your shoes, don't they have like slippers or something is not adding up. This is a very different place. It's probably not the place you do that, but he doesn't anyway, because he's rich. He built the upper room, you know? Yeah. he built the upper, he built the loft at the General
Starting point is 00:23:47 of the club. He built the special upstairs VIP room that nobody fucks it. So she's like, Yeah, at the club I work in, we have a shoe shine, a manicurist, a hair and makeup person, a tanning bed, a soft serve yogurt machine, a miss pack man, a guy with a pack, and a meme massage therapist. We have it all Andy.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Free Reef Hills, you know. And, you know, it's like very high end. So then Andy goes, and it was there, a champagne room and Karen goes, what's that? And I'm like, oh wow.
Starting point is 00:24:20 First of all, Karen, you're lying because all of season two is dedicated to Shaw Shop Building and a champagne room in her kitchen. I know, it doesn't just put a new spin on the champagne room in Shawshaw's house. It does, and I didn't really want to go there. Well, it says to one of two things, either Karen's lying now, or Karen just was not paying attention to Sheree's at all season two, which is, it could be a little bit of both. not paying attention to Sheree's at all season two, which is, it could be a little bit of both.
Starting point is 00:24:45 So they tell her that that's where you have sex. And she's like, no. And Wendy's like, it's true, it's true. So Shasha's champagne room just became more fun, I wrote. Okay, so Wendy's like, so. Wendy starts doing the sex dance. And Karen's like, Wendy, come on now. I mean, it says, no, it's not that time
Starting point is 00:25:03 from the establishment. So, Andy's like well me then you can tell me to mind my business. By the way but did you ever remove your clothing in the clubs? You know absolutely only you know oh you did. They just showed a clip of her saying yes I stripped. Yeah. She goes. Why does everybody acting like they've never heard this? I know. She goes, I would wear interests like this. And then I would like, I would take it off and I'd just be in my board shorts, which I was like, wait, there's board shorts under there.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Like that was not what I was expecting. Yeah, I just leave my dress with a shoe shine girl. That's all. I really like to roll her blade up the pole. Like, am I singing? I love that. I love that. Me account just, she always lies first and or blade up the pole. Like, am I singing? I mean. I love that. I love that. I love that.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. It's almost on the judgy stripper mode anyway. It's not gonna make it better that you were in board shorts instead of a thong. But also, it's such a strange image. Like, here comes my ball gown, it's coming off. And look, I'm wearing board shorts. I'm gonna go surfing. It's like, what? So can't just go, so that's stripping.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And just like, well, she said she was a stripper. Ah! Yeah, just like the only one who listens. And Candace is like, but first you said you work out. And she's like, but I ain't doing where the gums. And he goes, and then they come off. And she's like, yeah. And Robin goes, so you just didn't finish your story.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Well, sometimes they can't get shit out with y'all and y'all ladies. Also, you lied about it at first, which I don't blame you, you know? Like, look how they're reacting even when you're honest, you know, there are a bunch of assholes. And I say, strip girl, make your money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:53 It's a job, man. It's a job, too. Yeah, it is. So Andy asks about Veronica, me as mom, what their relationship is now. And she says that basically, well, my mom says she's gonna pray for Candice and then she needs help and Candice is like, well I don't need those prayers.
Starting point is 00:27:09 I definitely don't need those prayers. And Juselle goes, I mean, she's, wait, what does Juselle say? I'm gonna make it to this part. So she goes, yeah, I don't need those prayers. And Juselle says, you might, she goes, no, not from that. Like, geez. I thought we were gonna be apologizing for being shitty to somebody, some other. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Well, Christine from New Orleans says, as a viewer, it's frustrating to see Mia appear so self-made when her husband had all the franchise and just gave the mood, uh-huh. So Mia's like, no, I have a very clear way of explaining this, okay? G is an investor on another account of ours, but did not invest in this entity of mine because he owns franchises, but I like we own franchises, but he owns
Starting point is 00:27:52 franchises and I own two of the company and he didn't even have them before me, but then he owned a McDonald's and then sold them and then I had massaging views. So he invested in the massaging views, which I had. And also on top of that, he had a side business called I envy massages that did not take off, but we know we just sort of scrap that one. So the point is this, he did not invest in, he did not hand them over, he handed them over. So he did to help you money didn't get anything to
Starting point is 00:28:20 me, I had to qualify for those on my own. Okay, well, Yolanda from the other one says, me never seen anyone flip flop as much as you. And I called David Foster a king for a few years. Okay. One minute, just a lot of the beautiful heart. In the next moment, she's a complete asshole. Well, I always sping when I'm feeling in that moment, unicorn about Osblue cheese cracker jacks, that's when I was thinking. You know, if I like you today, but then something happens tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:28:53 and I don't like you tomorrow, I'm gonna tell you, I don't like you tomorrow. It's sort of like that Popeye's guy who says, I'll give me a burger today, and I'll pay you tomorrow or whatever it is, because maybe tomorrow he doesn't like you So you don't get the burger back, which is why no one gives in the burger. You see what I'm saying ladies I mean they like that guy and the memanie takes the free hamburger. They start calling him wimpy
Starting point is 00:29:16 You know is is everyone on pop i need to face to am being you know He's actually a boss bitch himself and they call him wimpy and just goes to show that people are intimidated by success So then he brings up that she's sent the text to the green eyed bandit saying if you want to see me making appointment with my assistant And just like well, I thought to Karen was in your ear rav and care like no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no What are you, sir, and carry the sir in, and sir is a place to visit? With Karen possibly if you have the opportunity. What were we talking about, Andy? Sir, hey, Cruz. That's what you call a child. Okay. So, now this season, Jazelle got a crash course on DriveZed all while pumping the brakes on
Starting point is 00:30:20 Jamal, but despite her single status, your relationship continued to be a topic of reasonably shady conversation. Let's crash into this airbag that deployed because your daughter can't drive. That one, that last part didn't work that smooth. Let's drive off your storyline, drove off the road, and your car exploded into a fireball. Let's watch. And then Jizelle's storyline, which, you know, let leave something to be desired.
Starting point is 00:30:50 And also I'm sick of talking about Jamal. There I said it. It's not even a show. Leave Jamal out of it. Jizelle, do something. Do something, ma'am. She did a lot this season. She gone to a halt, a feud with Wendy.
Starting point is 00:31:03 She got into fused, but like as far as her storyline, she's still doing her house, and they're still bringing up Jamal every five seconds. And her daughter learned to drive. I mean, I personally actually really enjoyed the driver's head story line the first time ever because it was so deeply, so deeply like fraught. And I'm like wildly fascinated by hotel Giselle, the Frankenstein of a house.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I mean, it really is putting the Winchester Mystery House to shame. Like, even the ghost of Sarah Winchester is like, wow, like her house really, she needs to reign it in, you know. So Andy, if you don't know what the Winchester mystery house, I suggest if we look it up, it's really fascinating. So Andy says, so, Dezel, you're dating, where's the man? And she's like, well, it's casual,
Starting point is 00:31:54 the man is gone. And Robin's like, have you seen the man again? He's gone. And when he's like, I know the commentator, well, I know the commentator, well, I know the commentator who said that he dated her, but he hasn't confirmed it yet. So I can't be sure. And she's like, she doesn't know her, and Andy says,
Starting point is 00:32:13 then we just hear Vicki screaming somewhere in West County. I'm like, can't dare you! How dare you! That's why she couldn't watch CNN, you know? She, that's what turned her conservative. She just couldn't watch CNN. She's always triggered by Van Jones, so then when he goes, oh, she's not as type. He likes women up in tequity, which and then like don't don't don't like a van Jones burn to lead us into commercial. Um, so Jacelle's just kind of laughing and care and takes a deep breath. And we're back, Jacelle, let's talk about the West Wing.
Starting point is 00:32:49 We're the underrated show in the last few seasons. You know, people blamed Jimmy Smith's eye for that one going downhill, but I say, I love Jimmy Smith's eye. Okay, there. That's my opinion on the West Wing. Ah. Okay, that's my opinion on the West Wing. No, I'm not talking about the TV show. I'm talking about that crazy part of your house. That sort of shapes like a Frank Gary thing gone wrong,
Starting point is 00:33:15 which is kind of funny because Frank Gary kind of looks like a Frank Gary thing gone wrong. That's what I'm trying to say. It's a disaster. What's going on with it? Is it cohesive yet? Have you fixed it? Oh, is it cohesive yet have you fixed it oh is it one motif no architectural digest has arrived out of all the tacky houses we've seen on housewives
Starting point is 00:33:39 I can't tell if it's brutalist or postmodern I mean get a style it's brutalist or postmodern I mean get a style. So Jizal how are you doing this season on your own version of design on the dime? It's been really hard to watch gotta say. Now you know it's called design on a dime not design on a nickel right you still have five more cents okay. So she's like, basically Robyn's like, whoa, it's still, it's the entryway is bringing it all together. But it's like, okay, so you added a portico, okay.
Starting point is 00:34:13 So then, Karen just goes, Karen just goes, the siding, the siding. Aluminum, huh? So then Andy's like, and the purple walls, and she's all says, no, not there. Didn't match any of the new floors.
Starting point is 00:34:28 And Andy goes, well, I don't know what it did match, which was really the shade I've been waiting for for about two years about that purple wall. Like official shade, not just for us, but like actually on the record on Potomac. I was like, thank you, thank you for saying it. Karen, what's your reaction? Does it still look like Ronald McDonald lifts here?
Starting point is 00:34:49 She's like, well, I haven't seen it since the drive-by. Mm-hmm. No, like the drive-by. I'm sorry, the drive-in. Well, it took great five times to pass the learners permit. I saw. And Karen's like, now let me ask you this. It's Grace Matajoum for showing the world that she can't drive
Starting point is 00:35:08 What's that been like? What is that family dynamic like she's open up? Be vulnerable to the cry to sell show me a tear Well actually, yeah Grace thought it was funny Yeah, and funny stories actually crashed right into the foyer and it actually brought the house together. Quite nicely, yeah, nice addition. Car-sized hole. It was actually the first thing that we found to match the rug, so the Gucci car is now just in the foyer and the front door. People don't realize it, but the West Wing was not actually originally built for the house.
Starting point is 00:35:44 It was actually just a separate house on a hill above my house and Grace crashed into it and knocked that house down the hill and just sort of landed on my house and we just said let's keep it. Because when does she get her driving skills from? And Candace rolls her eyes and goes, I'm questions that need answers. Ah! I'm like, ah yes, I'm very interested in this. I'm like really, I I'm very interested in this. I'm like, really, I'm into the grace driving storyline. Yes, can't it. So then speaking of Jamal, did you actually even
Starting point is 00:36:12 break up with Jamal? When did you break up? Where was that again? I don't know. I'm early on the year, maybe September spring summer. So then I have to say what was funny about his transition to Jamal is because he goes, is Jamal a good driver? Speaking of Jamal, as if it had just come up out of nowhere, like you started to speak about Jamal. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:37 He's like, so we shot the reunion and you guys were together, right? He goes, well, maybe after the holidays. So like a couple of months later, well, late January, make joggers, Andy. That is my answer to joggers, ah. And when he's like,
Starting point is 00:36:52 this timeline doesn't make sense, I'm sorry, but you say they're January, but didn't Jamal do a video in December saying he's not in a relationship. Yeah, and didn't your husband double tap like a bunch of hot ass booties on Instagram very recently as well. You know, can we put this timeline next to the booty double tapping somewhere?
Starting point is 00:37:09 Can I get a chart pull that thing? So, uh, Juselle says, well, that's... So then Andy says like, well, it seemed to me like he was saying he wasn't in a relationship, Juselle says, no, that wasn no, that wasn't what it said to me, to me it said something like Juzela is a great dresser, she has a great stylist, I love her house saw, I don't know, that's what it said to me, to me it said, Juzela really knows how to get some fitted slacks, and we see the headline from reality blurb, which you got to love these headlines, I mean, this is a whole fucking paragraph. Real housewives of Patilumic sugar star, which is stretching it already. Jamal Bryant implies he's single claps back at Monique's receipts with his own binder
Starting point is 00:37:54 and address his relationship with other woman, slams Chris and says he regrets doing the show. That is a very long headline. I'm offended. It's funny. I get for spot on. I get for spot on. I like how you were just. Yeah. And you won't mind reading this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Yeah. So Andy is like, well, you know a lot of people watching saw the last reunion and saw that binder. It seems logical to assume there'll be a connection between the binder and Jamal on the breakup. What do you think, huh? And then Monique, we see a clip of Monique saying, well, he said that he had a girlfriend at the time and he told her that this relationship was just for TV and it wasn't true at all. So just like the binder, that wasn't new information. We had already talked about that down
Starting point is 00:38:43 and Karen's like, so this time was different because this time you knew so you gave your consent to be the other woman with Jamal. Am I right? Which is so funny that you the way Karen sort of frees it like like she really is caring and wants to be there But it's totally like so you want to be the other woman, right? So she says no Karen nah, we were both seeing other We were both seeing other, uh, we were both, uh, we were figuring it out. So Andy's like, so you were non monogamy message because we were figuring it out. Duh. Well, at a stage of Beaver Housing says, just now you always talk about other people's relationships, but you never open up about your own. Do you want to cry right now?
Starting point is 00:39:26 Do you want to cry? I'd love to see you cry, okay? No, wow. How about now? No Now white walls white walls that makes you want to cry. No way. You stop it Cohesion both in your fashion and your architecture oh Andy yeah it's been such a hard life you broke me so Wendy's nodding really hard she's like yes Andy if you go and he and just as like that's not true and that's not true why I'm be sorry just
Starting point is 00:39:57 so Wendy's name there and he's like and you deflected when a scholar asks you about your relationship like that is not true's like, that is not true. Why? And Candace is like, well, you don't give the same level of vulnerability that we give. Just. Yeah. Well, she's not just deflecting. She's putting up a barricade because if she talked about how she truly feels, she would
Starting point is 00:40:19 break down. Yeah. And she's like, you don't know me, baby girl. She goes, you don't know me, baby girl. She goes, you don't know me, baby girl, which is Wendy's favorite, the UR argument. Right. So Andy's, yeah, it's a good one. Glad you got that center chair. So Andy's like, well, I'm not getting from you is when you let him back and he cheated on you multiple times, Andy, multiple times Eddie multiple times Andy which obviously went the is excited about that and he goes that had to really hurt and when you found out did you cry you want to cry right now if I hold two onions under your eyes will
Starting point is 00:41:00 not make you cry oh but you're right. Oh, just gonna drip a little salt in there. Are you crying that wow? You really don't cry? She's like no, I'm not the big cryer. Everyone knows that when we got a divorce I cried and he goes well I guess there will be part of me that felt like fuck like in my heart like you know Like the first time it hurts or maybe the first time would come back You know and she's like no, it's, like the first time it hurts. So maybe the first time would come back, you know? And she's like, no, it's sort of like that time. We brought Dina Manzo back for the real housewives
Starting point is 00:41:31 and your jersey and we thought she'd fix everything. And then she just was kind of like a dud. And I was like, man, I'm hurt all over again. Wasn't like that. You wanna cry? Well, actually, thinking about that season of Jersey doesn't make me want to cry. I mean, no, I'm not quite there yet.
Starting point is 00:41:47 So, um, yeah, basically, just else like, no, I don't, I didn't feel the pain the second time, which I, I don't believe she didn't feel the pain. I think that she probably processed it and put it away in a compartment because I think that she was probably heavily traumatized by Jamal's first cheating and probably stuff in her childhood with her parents and divorce or whatever. I'm just gonna make these wild inferences because I feel like it today. But like it's clear that she is built up
Starting point is 00:42:20 like some sort of like trauma defense, right? So it's kind of funny that they're like, be more vulnerable, be more vulnerable as if like that's something you can just be. I mean, haven't they watched Goodwill hunting? Don't they know that she needs to have a moment where a therapist tells her it's not your fault? It's not your fault.
Starting point is 00:42:36 It's not your fault. Andy, step up the plate, say that it's not your fault line. It just makes me crazy because it's like, let's empower women, okay, but you're not a real woman if you don't cry And you're also not a real woman if you don't have a man. So yeah, you know, it's just Fucking annoying like get off her ass, you know, cuz she doesn't cry exactly now on the flip side I will say I mean there is a point to some of this too, which is that she's saying oh
Starting point is 00:43:01 I talk about Jamal all the time, but she does hold her cards close to her chest. So she gives like, for functuring information like Jamal or loafers today. Wow, look at me talking about Jamal. Like, she doesn't really, she doesn't seem like she talks about the emotional experience. Well, where's Wendy? Where's Wendy's emotional experience with Eddie? She doesn't talk about any of that. All of a sudden, they brought up with Wendy.
Starting point is 00:43:24 She never talked about her emotions or how it feels to have your husband double tapping on huge, titty Instagram hookers or whatever. She never talked about her feelings. She just screamed at everybody and denied it. You know, where is everybody else's vulnerability about their relationship? Karen's is all fake.
Starting point is 00:43:39 We know that. Like, where is everybody else's? I don't get it. Yeah, I think is anyone, I think I'm probably not for Giselle. Am I actually spending this? I'm really proud of you. I'm really proud of you.
Starting point is 00:43:51 I'm really proud of you. I'm really proud of you. I'm really proud of you. I think at your Robin is the only one on this cast who might be like truly, I actually feel like she's the most transparent about like what she goes through with Juan. Now that I think about it, how do you feel about that?
Starting point is 00:44:08 I don't really think so. I think they're, I don't really think so. She's just saying, we don't wanna get married yet. No, I think the stuff that she talked about going through with up in the pandemic and having him yell at her and how that hurt. I thought that was a bit more re, I feel like most of the women on this cast
Starting point is 00:44:26 really sugarcoat everything. Like Ashley does it like crazy with Michael. Every now and then she will, she'll give some. -♪ Derby's by me and he derby's by me. Ashley's sugarcoats it, you know, Wendy has been, Karen has been, Mia does. I mean, they're, so I'm gonna give the award to what appears to be emotional honesty to your husband, the new category and the crappies,
Starting point is 00:44:52 the award for most emotional honesty regarding the man in your life on Potomac to Robin. Well, I've already been nice to, Jizal, I'm not gonna be nice to Robin. I know, I can't even do that. I know you're on your own. I know I had nothing to do You're just had nothing to do with really my argument. I knew it's more like you could only Give so much. I can only do so much. Yeah, so Karen Karen's like well, you know if Jizal Jizal Mm-hmm if you could get to the place to share
Starting point is 00:45:23 You know people would be on your side, you would win. And Robbins, like, listen, people deal with things in different ways. I'm really tired. Anybody, Mom, just gonna take an app right now. That's how she falls asleep. And winning us, oh, really? Oh, really? And she's like, you just want to inject yourself into everyone's comments when me.
Starting point is 00:45:43 And she's like, what everyone gets to talk. She's like, no, I was trying to say something and you can chill for a second. Okay, just cuz Jiselle is a reacting the way you want her to Doesn't meet you doesn't hurt. Yeah, and she says like yes, it's part of my personality We're different. Yeah, we deal with things different. Yeah, so it's part of my personality Yeah, all right cool So Jen from California says hey, I just saw Mickey Manage He's here in California. I guess she's not here in Potomac, okay Karen
Starting point is 00:46:14 Jen from California says Karen you and Ray have had difficulties in past seasons knowing a heart It can be why did you go so hard for Jazellen and Shamer for her man's behavior? And the minute he says Karen, you had difficulties in your marriage. It just cuts to Candace rolling her eyes. Like, oh God, now we're talking about this. So he's like, what'd you go so hard for? And Karen says, well, I was shaming Jazell for her grown woman choices because Jazell knows better.
Starting point is 00:46:41 And I know I believe in my heart that Jiselle should not have gone back to him. She like a sorry ham is worth way more than people give her credit for. Jiselle is worth so much more. She deserves so much more credit in those spaces. But here on this day, she's trash. She's trash and she's the bottom of the barrel. Mm-hmm. It's funny how Karen is being so nice to Jizal today.
Starting point is 00:47:09 She's like, friends again, aim. Yeah. So where was I? I just lost somehow like me doing that, like, caused me to completely lose. It was just more like Jizal's shit. Yeah. Didn't it hurt when your daughter said
Starting point is 00:47:23 that they don't have a good example, and they called you an emotional vampire? She goes, well, my kids have seen me be very robotic because that is how I survived all of the pain that their father would be so upon me. Yeah. And he's like, wow, interesting. You built up a defense mechanism.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Wow. You know what, you know what's a really good brick to use in a defense mechanism? Tears, you wanna cry, scratches up. Then it comes to Mia and Mia's just weaving her head. Did you catch us? She's just weaving her head and her eyes are half closed. I don't know if she just started popping Zanny too early or what, but she
Starting point is 00:48:05 looks like she's about to fall over. It's called being a boss band, okay? So then, uh, Judy from Judy Towns says, Wendy and Karen, why does someone's happiness have to be defined by a man? Every time you throw shade at Jazeal, the first thing you say is Jazeal is unhappy because she doesn't have a man. No, no, no, I did not say that. I did not say she's unhappy because she doesn't have a man. I said she has no future because she doesn't have a man but she could be pretty happy. I said that Jezelle is not happy without a hand. Am I not fit every second, but that'd be...
Starting point is 00:48:39 Mm-hmm. Uh, Jezelle goes, well, as you were preparing for the 25th anniversary of the Insta- Tushana is like, she doesn't get to finish herself and Karen goes, oh well, you know, I guess what? Cutting and editing is amazing, okay? Like I say, the way you cut a ham is really part of the experience. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:49:00 She's like, come on, Garen, you didn't say that. She'll let me own it, let me own it. I needed therapy myself, and that was therapy Let me own it, let me own it. I needed therapy myself. And that was therapy for me because it took me years when she was at a cloud of me. And she's like, I never said anything about your marriage. Excuse me, a man.
Starting point is 00:49:16 You were the one going around talking about old blue wise and saying that Karen was cheating. And the air colliles was something of raise. Yeah, all that pleases just out. And he's like, yeah, but you did chase her about taxes. You even made a t-shirt and that was actually the best fashion you've ever had on that show. It actually was Andy goes, oh, by the way, I read online that $800,000 in taxes apparently he owes a lot of money to the cry RS you want to cry you want to cry about this She's like he's not my husband. No my taxes are paid I and Karen's like well since I do have experience in this let me lean in on this
Starting point is 00:50:01 Technically you were married in 2008. That's the taxes. Uh, uh, missing. I think I can come and get your ass. Just a la. Loyer up. Loyer up. So just as my taxes are paid, da, it has nothing to do with me. My name is on my house.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Oh, really? Ooh, I wouldn't want to do that if I were you. Maybe call it like a, a Jane Doe production, something like that. And Andy's like, well, but it indirectly affects your daughters and I'm saying both the tax issues and that awful house. Yeah, but also, Jezelle has incorrect. Someone is giving Jezelle incorrect information because she's like, they cannot come after me
Starting point is 00:50:40 because after seven years, it's a rat, ba. I'm like, no, that's sort of like old capital one card, okay? It's not the IRS. The IRS will get your ass in the grave. They will dig you up and take the watch off of your fucking wrist, okay? All right, then we got to a scholar in Glam, and she's coming on out, and and she's coming out, and then Andy turns the Candace, and goes, hey, we're bringing out your mom when? I'm mind if I poke at your family trauma a little bit there, and she's coming out and then Andy turns the can does it goes hey, we're bringing out your mom when Mind if I poke at your family trauma a little bit there. It's like Andy
Starting point is 00:51:09 I believe I will drive back get it drive back You'll drive back hold on let me get my two fingers out my two pointing fingers so I can do some boogie to that Hey, a scholar. I love your fashion. Thanks for being your, okay, now onto something else. Michael from LASIS, hey Ascala, I hope your style it rubs off on these girls. Who would you love to style if you had the chance? And she's like, probably, Jacelle, bring her to current.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Make her current. And she's like, look, Jacelle, you wanna comment? Just like, that was a lot ask you to want a comment. Just like that. No, wow. Leave her alone about that. My God. I mean, Karen had to see someone with just like a jiffy pop with a feather boa.
Starting point is 00:51:54 And no one says anything to her. So Andy goes, boy, you do take a licking and keep on ticking in the style department. Wow. Wow. Wow. As if he was not. You gotta love as happy as Andy's asking all of these questions. Something going, wow, they sure being mean to you. Okay, a scholar, you have something to say. Just kidding. Hey, Candace this season, you and your husband, you're set up to show the world
Starting point is 00:52:22 that you wear it, that you're a triple threat to be reckoned with but in the process You learn that you had no business Making marriage with show business. Oh, I guess that's sort of a pun on there's no business like show Business let's roll this clip The so is her crying with various objects She's the flauta crying with the flauta in her eye. Crying with the paper plane in her eye. Crying with the flagpole on the 4th of July in her goddamn eye.
Starting point is 00:52:53 And then we're back. OK. So wow, Candace has rack, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. Candace was under the jet yet. And Wendy's like, that was me who made that joke. Wow. That was so good, Andy. That was good, Andy.
Starting point is 00:53:09 By the way, I hope we get follow up on what happened with our pilot because he spent all this time talking about drive back and all this and that. But hello, she was shooting a pilot this season and we better see what's going on with it. Yeah, I'll be too. So, uh, Andy's like, so who's listening to the whole album? Deep space, drive back, drive back.
Starting point is 00:53:36 And everyone been Ashley and said, I haven't listened to it, but I will listen to it. Andy, um, one day when I decide to start punishing my children, I planning it, I'm playing it very loud in their nurseries. And so she said, you shut the fuck up and leave me alone. And Andy's like, do you think it's better than coffee and laugh? And then we cut to a clip of coffee and love. And I forgot how much like Minnie Mouse Ashley really sang in this clip. Well, or that was like her tone and then adjusted by a computer.
Starting point is 00:54:02 I mean, it's literally like the male to female voice changer on garage man. She's like, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come here, come, come, come here, come here, come here, come, come here, come here, come, come here, come here, come, come here, come here, come, come here, come, come here, come, come here, come here, come, come here his husband's her. His skills seem to really be in the kitchen. So why is it qualified to be a husband's her? Well, it's less about managing the music and more about managing me. I was like, okay, are you paying Chris? She was in love. I'm paying him with love. I mean, it's like, while that getting paid in Texas being a prostitute, she was here with now. in Texas being a prostitute. She goes, you would know. Why?
Starting point is 00:54:43 Do you think? I mean, why are they are harping on this a lot? I feel like it's actually not crazy that she doesn't pay Chris. Like, it's her husband and theoretically, it's all for money. Yeah, I mean, he's gonna get half her money, so. I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:57 I would feel weird if I would like to manage Tom's career, I don't know that that would ever happen, but if I were to do that, to then be like requesting some sort of payment, that seems weird. Well, I think it's more that Chris Marius Canvas and immediately pretty much is out of work. And now they're just saying, oh, Chris is working for Canvas because his whole thing before was like, oh, this guy is just a low life. And he's going to live off Canvas's mom's money. But then, you know, but then there's the added thing of the pandemic too. So it's not really fair to say that because like
Starting point is 00:55:32 restaurants did suffer a huge amount. Right. I think maybe they're what they're trying to get out of the fact that like, he basically doesn't have in their mind a real job because he's doing something. He's not even getting paid. And he's just like, he's just essentially doing something that's like very easy that because he's doing something. He's not even getting paid and he's just like, he's just essentially doing something that's like very easy that he'd be doing anyway, but then saying it's his job. So maybe that maybe I'm looking at it from the wrong perspective.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Well, I think that in their eyes, it would actually be better if she said, yes, like yes, I'm paying him. It's a job and he's getting paid because I think that that's almost what they're going for because it seems like they're saying, oh, your lazy ass has been, you're just calling him out a husband, sure, but he's laying around spending all your money, right? Yeah. So then Ashley is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:56:13 And she comes in with a statement that sort of sounds like it's being sympathetic, but it's just like totally shady. She's like, well, you know, his restaurant was really affected by the pandemic. And I think he like lost confidence and he's drinking a little bit more and he's put on some weight. Oh no that's his normal that's his normal that's his normal.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Okay well he put on some weight and you know he's just not the same Chris that when we first mad he's just sort of like serly and sad and getting very very happy. It's a very true. and get very, very heavy in the culture. If you call it a male, I think he's even balled in it. I'm not sure if he's balled or if it's just fatter that makes him look balled. Do that people look balled? That's the question. Andy, take it away.
Starting point is 00:56:55 You know, I never heard of the pandemic creating like excess amounts of body odor, but I guess with Chris, that's the toilet took. excess amounts of body odor, but I guess with Chris, that's the toilet took. Well, friend dresser from Queens, well, once you know, if the lady sings that Chris is right, oh, yeah, it's Chris writing canvases, coattails, right? So that's where Ashley says he's drinking more. So Andy's like, is Chris's name on the deed?
Starting point is 00:57:19 And is Donnie's name on the deed? And she's like, just Chris, and he just Chris. Well, your mom seemed to imply that she was financially involved in Candace. She's like, well, she always has to be involved somehow, Abby. But she's not involved. And then, Giselle says, well, she went to every single one of us side to talk about your husband,
Starting point is 00:57:41 but you're mad at us side. Because I've had to sit here, sit her on the side, because what she said was incorrect, and it was very disparaging to my husband. And so Andy asks, Well, what's your defense? I mean, about talking shit about your husband. And Candace says,
Starting point is 00:57:58 um, well, they were asking me questions, and she starts to say something, and Karen, Karen interacts, and he's like, why? Excuse me, as the ambassador of Sorry Goundi, I have to stand up for Dorothy. She is a loyal customer to our hams and I will not hear her reputation be smushed. And Andy asked if Chris was mad and Candace is like, I need a tissue. I need a tissue, me. And Karen just goes, it hurts.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Mm-hmm. It hurts. So Andy hands over a tissue and just says, oh, I thought you were going to fold it up by. He's like, oh, well, I can't. So he folds it. He does the Candace fold. He's like, so proud.
Starting point is 00:58:38 He's like, look, I made a square. It's very impressive. Well, she's crying, but you would think that a real friend would have told her that her mom was the one talking a matter, and when he goes, are you talking shut up? Okay. I mean, I was just like, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:54 So Candace goes, you know, it's really hurt. My family is never going to be the same, and I don't know what to do. I don't know how to do. It's so hard, Andy. Because it's my husband, I don't know what to do. I don't know how to do- Hahahaha! It's so hard, Andy. Because it's my husband, I don't ever want to see my husband hurting. But it's best played out by my mom. The only time I want to see my husband hurting is if I curse him out,
Starting point is 00:59:17 let me be the one. Okay? What if my mom always has to steal my thunder? Yeah, and Robyn's like, do you feel like your issues would be the same if you weren't on the show? And she's like, my family will never be the same. My in-laws watch the show,
Starting point is 00:59:32 and I feel like I don't belong there anymore because my mom insulted my husband, and I don't know how to fix it. And I read a comment on Reddit that I thought was so perfect. It was like, so how did his family feel when you said he was a deadbeat dad, just like his own dad?
Starting point is 00:59:47 Did they love that? Like how was that? And he's like, yeah, well, the video shoot got lots of problems and not only in my ears. Okay. It's certainly inflamed your relationship with Mia. So Leah from Perth, whoa! Why would you say Candace's video was low budget if as if that's a bad thing? You came from a
Starting point is 01:00:10 difficult background only to be plucked from the lobster strip joint, then you should know better than then judge. I'm gonna interject here and be like it's not about judging, it's about the fact that Candace is like talking it up like this is big music video and they're taking their time out of it and they show up and they're sending in like this parking lot at a like a you know recreational park for hours trying to figure out like what the heck is going on. So I don't think it's I don't think it's a comparable situation. I mean I thought it was pretty shitty of Mia and obviously really shady what she was doing. My problem with this is why do not have as much right to be judgmental if you're from a lower economic class?
Starting point is 01:00:52 It's like she should understand being low budget because she was low budget, so she can't be, like only rich people get to be judgmental, what the fuck are you saying? But the thing is this though, like, I think actually if Candice were actively in a troubled space, but if she had limited means at the moment, if she was in the place that Mia was as a child, and then she decided to throw to make a music video, and then everyone would be like,
Starting point is 01:01:22 that's amazing that you pulled this together, right? So it's really not the same situation. That's sort of what the question is implying. I was like, the canvas, and I'm not even shading that, oh, well, it should have been more expensive. I think it's just that canvas was acting as if it were literally this top tier VMA, not future nominee, right?
Starting point is 01:01:45 And it wasn't low budget video. I mean, yeah, and by the way, Mia was being shady and ridiculous, like, well, I'm not buying Mia a low budget thing. Mia always says that shit as if she's like this dooyen of luxury experiences. I mean, that is ridiculous. But I just think it's funny that Candace is like so offended.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Like that, this is the harshest thing that could have been said to Candace about her music. It was a rinky dig music video. I'm sorry it was. Yeah, and she ended up doing better, I think later in the season, because I remember saying at the time, if she just said, yeah, it is low budget
Starting point is 01:02:16 and I worked really hard to do it and I'm proud of it. Getting, you know, it's just how, it's just her reactions, because Candace often is not wrong really in the situation, like she's right to be pissed. It's just how pissed because campus often is not wrong really in the situation like she's right to be pissed It's just how pissed she gets, you know, and like does that warrant like running around the house screaming or
Starting point is 01:02:33 Yeah, that's a thing. Come get your order. He just fans you on the curve. It's like wow That's the reaction to your but your video was low budget like geez I don't know why I got very serious at that point, but like clearly the spirit moved me. So, also housewives show, I mean, it's been going the whole season of storylines. It does get really like, okay, here's what we're really thinking.
Starting point is 01:02:56 I know, but our recap is like, hey, this is ham, do you wanna cry, ham, ham? But seriously guys, like that was like, not cool, it was talking about the low budget. So, hey, as God, during the pamper party, But seriously guys like that was like not cool. I was talking about a little So a scholar so a scholar during the pamper party you ask Karen about having a drinking Problem out the blue, but then you thought Mia was rude for a question to daddy about asking you how was that rude after you ask Karen about a drinking problem And she's like I'm just direct. Okay. I don't even know why we're asking you anything. Your dress is pretty though. Okay, Candace, did you really not know
Starting point is 01:03:27 Mia's mom's backstory before you said the absolutely unforgivable your mom? Okay, did you know? Did you know? She was like, I did not know. And if I did know that she had trauma, I would have talked about something else like her giant feet, her giant head, or her absolute hornet.
Starting point is 01:03:46 But I will say that in the black community, it's called Joning. And I was going to light on you. And what happened was, oh, I was going light on you. And what happened was you were ungrateful. I just want to point out that in the Surrey community, it's called hamming it up. Get it? I just like to report that in the white gay community, Joning is considered having very sexy hips and soft drink through an office in every episode.
Starting point is 01:04:14 And I also want to point out that in the Jizzel community, Joning is not crying. I'd also like to point out lesbian community, Joning has something to do with bias, bias. I don't really understand lesbian's just thought I would get the information out there. And in the 90s rock community, joining is known as
Starting point is 01:04:36 releasing a one hit wonder about God and if God is one of us. Okay, so you say she's ungrateful. So if you say your mom is a little bunch it and can't if she's what am I supposed to do when she talks to me? You do like you I mean, well, draw one to grow a salad out. Not some shit over a counter and you know, call her out, run through the house calling her a whore. I mean, I mean, mean, the natural choice.
Starting point is 01:05:07 I mean, I mean, the thing is this, it's like, you're right. I mean, it was ultimately just like a yo mama joke. And I've always said on like Maritime Medicine that whenever heavenly is like yo mama, you know, I'm always like, God, they take it so seriously, whenever she says it, when it's clearly she's just doing a yo mama joke. I guess my thing is not so much that Candace said yo mama, it's more like maybe she could have a little bit of sympathy
Starting point is 01:05:30 which she's sort of trying to show, but like maybe a little bit of sympathy, the fact that like in mere specific situation, maybe throwing out a yo mama joke, you know, right on the heels of a low budget reference, like could be immensely triggering, you know? Well, she does, okay, so this is the thing about Kansas. Again, it's the same thing I've said a million times,
Starting point is 01:05:51 so sorry everybody, but I agree with Kansas. Again, I agree with Candace. Your mom, like saying your mom is no big deal. And if she had just said, if she had just stuck to her thing of, I didn't know about the trauma, I didn't think it was that big deal. It was like light shade or whatever.
Starting point is 01:06:07 But then she completely throws that away in the next segment. So by the way, but also on the show, like she kind of should have led with, listen, I just found out I had no idea. I was just, you know, you said that and I did like a quick like your mama thing. I didn't really't really appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:06:25 But instead her whole thing was like, you don't know what I've been through. This was my dream and you called it low budget. That may be true, but you can't compare that to Mia's mom shit. Mia's mom shit for all the slainness of the show. Mia's mom shit is serious and intense. And that Candace is gonna try do like a yes and with it. It's like, no, you have
Starting point is 01:06:49 to like lead with a little bit of like humbleness about that and be like, I just add to what you said, say listen, you know, what we talked about before I said you mama, it was just a, it was off the cuff. It wasn't really supposed to be literally about you mama and had I know, I would have insulted your feet. I would have sold her. She did do that. But she did it way after she did all the other stuff, right? Yeah. If you think, after me, I apologize, she came to that. So, Jiselle's like, well, you saw that episode and you thought to yourself, wow, wow, I was justified. And I didn't feel that your actions toward her were justifiable.
Starting point is 01:07:24 And Candace goes, what actions? If I want to respond verbally, I can. And that's what we do. Hello, welcome to the stage. And Andy's like, then Andy starts getting mad, which is super weird, right? So Andy's like, can I ask you a question? How's that working out for you? Honestly.
Starting point is 01:07:44 How is the way you respond to people working for you? I mean, you were almost physically attacked last year. And she goes, and that's my fault that I was physically attacked. She goes, well, you're the common denominator. And she goes, everyone up here has a mouth and has said nasty, disrespectful, bottom of the gutter, things, okay, but because I'm better at it somehow,
Starting point is 01:08:04 which I love that she is now elevating herself in her defense. Yes. And then Karen is like, oh, no, no, no, I don't think there's anyone better than me in Jazeal that being nasty in this special and bottom of the gutter. Which is hilarious, but then Candace of course takes it here.
Starting point is 01:08:20 She goes, because I'm better at it, I'm crucified, which of course, I was waiting for you to compare yourself to Jesus in someone. Yes. Like, you were so predictable. So Karen's like, well, I don't think, yeah, we're the best at it, Andy. And Andy's like, but you had the better knife thing with Ashley. You had the thing with Monique. And Candace says, what was the better knife thing?
Starting point is 01:08:38 So we see a clip of that because she just doesn't remember for whatever reason. And so she goes, one, I did not throw a better knife at you And ask you like aha, and then you were like flinching like you were gonna come for me And she was and number two you brought your big ass face back into my home And she's like oh my god even I'm sick of listening to you and the big ass face. Yeah, as she goes bitch We have the same size forehead so Candace goes he goes you know says you have about two and a half inches higher than me or whatever. And so, and you can glue your hairline as far down as you want to,
Starting point is 01:09:11 but you still have the same damn forehead to stop. Yeah. So Andy's like, why do I wake up to tweet saying fire her? And that's pretty much what this boils down to. He's just sick of people tweeting at him saying fire her, fire her. So he's like, oh my god, you're making my life're making my life hell right so can also he's kind of such a hypocrite in this moment because what are you first of all what are you yelling at
Starting point is 01:09:32 somebody for that's crazy you're the host of a show and where was his energy in Beverly Hills everybody is tweeting you to fire Erica to and you sat there and kissed her ass the whole time you would like grill her on something and then be like, oh my God, you're amazing for answering questions. It's our hero, Eric A.J. You know, and now he's like, and now I have to wake up to tweet saying, fire her. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Doesn't she get a raise for that? I mean, in your book. Yeah, I mean, that's a really, that's a really, really good point. I think Andy kind of, he's actually been pretty good about like not bubbling over into sort of like fandom. I think in that moment, he kind of became like a little bit of a sort of reacting like a viewer at not a moderator. So Candace is like, she's like,
Starting point is 01:10:19 well, it has less to do with me and more to do with the people who can't keep up with what I say. So she's basically saying, like the problem is not that I say horrific things. The problem is that I just do it so well and I do it so quickly that people just can't keep up with. People are stupid. Right, people are stupid if they don't get her. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:38 But also she keeps doing this thing whenever she's called on somebody, she says, but they all do it. It's not just me. Like she says, everybody's saying fire you and she goes, says, but they all do it. It's not just me like she says everybody's saying fire you And she goes, yeah, but they say fire her and fire her and fire her because no because what they're saying About you isn't regards to what comes out of your mouth and she's like no, I'm just too smart for everybody Basically like you just said and he's like, but you're the
Starting point is 01:11:02 But you're the clement of the need! I don't want to. Yeah, she is, if you cannot handle someone or rating, or speaking to you, she's like, I think actually this is the difference between her and Erica, which is that, Erica is also all over and she kind of doesn't take any responsibility, but she's able to speak in a way where it sounds like she is.
Starting point is 01:11:22 She's able to have a faux up frontness, but when you go back and dissect it, you see how she very easily deflects away, but Candace doesn't have that, doesn't have that, that grift in her. She's just very, like her deflection is so obvious that it becomes obvious that she is not taking any ownership and so therefore she gets grilled.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Like when she says, if you can't handle my oration for crying out loud. It's like, when you can't handle someone or rating and he goes, or rating. And just like, but you threw the salad first up. And she says, I threw a pizza lettuce and Karen goes, it was too, I was there. It was a baby jump and romaine. So, so, Jazeal goes, you know what,
Starting point is 01:12:06 if by chance after I saw that, what do you, after what I saw that I saw, if Mia collapsed you, I'd be like, no, because of the severity of what you were saying to her. Which is funny if you go back to last season and that meeting she had at her house. Oh, you don't need a bodyguard, Jazeal? Really? You don't need to bring a bodyguard, Jizelle? Really?
Starting point is 01:12:25 You don't need to bring a bodyguard to scenes now because you saw some solid fly fucking hypocrite. Yeah. So Candace is like, what you are all failing to remember is that I never start any of it. I always am responding to someone who is, this is a big time for me to cry. Disrespecting me.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Oh God. Guess you do start it. You start it all the fucking time. I mean, that thing with Mia was like a whole other fight that you guys had already talked about. And then you started it again at the cabinet, screaming at her when she walked into the kitchen. So maybe you didn't start the original fight,
Starting point is 01:12:59 but you had already had that fight. So you started it then. Well, she started that whole crazy... She perceives. She perceives. She perceives it then she started that whole crazy. She proceeds. She proceeds. She proceeds. Slides and she's very insecure. So in her mind, she doesn't start it because someone has done something to her and then she responds. But I think most human beings would see a slight or what she sees as a slight as like nothing and would move on. So in her mind, she's been totally justified because she's just been, you know, standing her ground.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Yeah, but it's like the fight already happened. She's like bringing it onto the vacation, making you a new thing like it had never happened before and that fight it already had. She just started it on the vacation. Well, she has, she truly is insecure for whatever reason. And like she's unable to let things slide off her back because I think that the salad thing was chiefly kind of, it got, like the be got in her bonnet when Mia walked by and was like, these girls don't, these broke ass bitches don't understand being a CEO.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Whatever was that she said on the phone and that's what Seth Candace off, right? Right, but she was saying that because Candace was going coming for her in that bedroom. So if we're going to, if Candace is going to go with the will they started it, you started it. That's what I'm saying. Like, and all goes back to you fucking starting that fight lady. So you can't say like, it's okay for you to act a certain way because other people started, but then when you started and other people react, it's like, booh, booh, booh, booh, booh,
Starting point is 01:14:25 and crying with your fucking poster boards. Why? So, just obviously says the thing that makes the most sense, right? She says, moving forward, all I'm gonna ask is that you need to be able to edit yourself. Fah. And she's like, when you get that angry,
Starting point is 01:14:43 you just go to a different place. And it's like you're not even there anymore. And she goes, oh when you get that angry, you just go to a different place. And it's like, you're not even there anymore. And she's, oh, I'm in there. She goes, well, you're a different person. You get rather tap, tap, tap, tap. And she's like, that was me, of my job. And Candace is like, well, also, I have to say, okay, and then this is where Candace really blows it.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Because so far, she's been saying, you know, if I had known that Mia had trauma about her mom and if I knew about Mia's mom's trauma blah blah blah, right? So she looked up, she kind of swept that under the rug. So she's like, also I have to say I have an issue with Mia saying that if her mother were to relapse, that would be on me. And when he's like me too, me too. So she goes, the facts are you brought your mother onto this show to parade around for your storyline. And if she relapses, that is on you. What?
Starting point is 01:15:29 What? Well, that is so fucked up. Oh my God. Oh, I think you put it in the bathroom. No, I, no. Well, for, I'll get to what I've been saying. Okay. But what can this is saying to say, you can't blame somebody else for somebody relapsing, but then to, in the next breath, say, it's your fault if she relapses. You fucking hypocrite.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Well, what I'm saying is it's not really cool to bring your mom on here, but if me as mom relapses, it's me as mom's fault. It's nobody else's fault. Like people don't get to just blame, pass the blame mom for their own addiction to fucking everybody else. There might be reasons, but anybody who's ever been to any kind of treatment or tried to just blame, pass the blame on for their own addiction to fucking everybody else. There might be reasons,
Starting point is 01:16:05 but anybody who's ever been to any kind of treatment or tried to get sober, it knows, you cannot do it when you're blaming other people. If she relapses, it's her own fucking problem. Like that's her own fault, and it's her own journey, right? And let's also not forget when Candace says, like, you brought your mother onto this platform
Starting point is 01:16:21 to pray to around for your storyline. I'm like, hello, Dorothy. Yeah. What has your storyline been for the past four years? It's Dorothy. And now you're sad because your family will never be the same. It's like you brought your mom onto this show.
Starting point is 01:16:36 So, man, take care of this. Yeah, and this whole thing is gross. But I do think that it was gross for me to bring on her mom because if she's in such a fragile place, why would you put her like in public scrutiny like that and talk about how, you know, how much she ruined your life in every scene? I mean, she wanted to tell us to worry. She wanted to tell her story and inspire people, which I, I can't say whether or not that's true. It doesn't feel like her mom looked very much like, oh my god, I'm on TV. But you know, either way, you know, it was, it's definitely a dicey situation. And it is. Yeah. And she's like, you would never
Starting point is 01:17:13 understand you spoiled brat. And can't this is like, you're right. I wouldn't. And so she says, I don't even know why I'm talking to her. And she goes, you brew in that opportunity by being disrespectful to me. And so me is just like, fuck her Candace says, oh, fuck me, fuck me. Just Candace. That's what I'm going to be. I actually felt like, I was like, wow, they covered a lot of ground in this first episode. I don't know how we're going to get three more.
Starting point is 01:17:38 I'm sure the next episode will be like the fun games one. It'll be the stupid stuff about like, you know, there's always one episode where they just put, there's always the second episode where they just put the stuff that doesn't really matter. So next episode will probably be dull. And the third episode will probably be the good stuff. And then the fourth episode will be Nicki Minaj, who I think she gets into a fight with Candace.
Starting point is 01:18:01 One can hope. I guess we'll see everybody. Eeeeee. Well, that was fun. They were fun. They were fun. They were fun. They were fun. They were fun.
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