Watch What Crappens - RHOP: Not For Lazy Binders

Episode Date: December 15, 2020

Part 1 of the Real Housewives of Potomac reunion is just as good as we could have expected it, but no one was prepared for the receipts that Monique brought in her binder. In the end, she read Gizelle down, and it was legendary. Plus, Karen introduces us to Endi, and Candiace finally has a fan.Our Patreon Extras: https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me is the wonderful and hilarious and lovable and if it weren't a pandemic Huggable Ronnie Karam what's going on Ronnie? Well, hello beam. Hey, do you in there, buddy? I'm good Well, you're still Huggable. I'll still I'll send you some Hugga emojis after this if I remember to See you get a little like my sex life Oh, get a little like my sex life. So I'm gonna. Moties. Yeah.

I'll raise you that eggplant with an apple. Why? I don't know really, but hey, it's it's COVID sex. No peach. I think a peach is the fruit you're looking for. So how are you, Ronnie? How's your weekend? It was great.

Loved it. Had a great time. Did a lot of shopping indoors. So that's that's always fun. I wanna just sort of plug in along over here, how's it going with you? Everything's great, you know, I had a little Hanukkah time on Friday night, made some latkes,

got into the season, and you know, and now we're here. It's, today is actually, I'm looking at the date, today is the 29 year anniversary of my bar mitzvah today. Wow. I'm old. I've been Murphy's next problem. My, or his next prediction on Netflix. One thing's universal. A small percentage of the US population gets by mitzvah. I'll be played by James Corbin. Oh, well, no, I guess I couldn't be in it because I was 29 years ago. Maybe we'll make it that you knew me as a little kid too.

I'll be played by James Corbin. Yeah, I think that's what it should be. I invite you to my synagogue and you're like, whoa, it's a synagogue. I didn't know about this. Then there can be a controversy. Maybe you can convert to Judaism and then the controversy will a controversy. Because maybe you can like convert to Judaism and then the controversy will be that, oh wait, but Ronnie, you are not a Jewish person playing

someone who turns into a Jew. How could that be? Well, the controversy is gonna be that James fucking Gordon is playing me. I'll be so mad. You wanna see somebody pissed off? I will be pissed off if James Gordon ever plays me. Yeah, I don't know who's gonna play me on anything,

but apparently it's gonna be Dave from the Great British Bake Off, so. What can I do? to play me on anything, but apparently it's gonna be Dave from the Great British Bake Off. So what can I do? Well, today we have Real Housewives of Potomac reunion part one. Now we know it's a holiday season because it's Hanukkah, you know? But it's also because it's a reunion. There's always a nice month long reunion to bring us into the holidays.

And you know what? It wasn't worth it. I don't Jesus is up in heaven. Like it's all been worth it. Here's my gift to you, a reunion. It was worth it. This was a great reunion episode. It was super funny.

I was a little concerned at first because it opened up. There was like a big pat. Like the big segment that seems to have to do with nothing that will get into a little bit. And I was like, oh, are they patting this out? But no, this was a this was a Really good reunion episode. Yes, it was really good and it opens very dramatically as everyone's getting ready

But it's like a super dramatic getting ready. Yeah, I'm usually it's like But this time it was very dramatic. Can it start with Karen going, we have broken each other this year? Talk to God. Do what you have to do to get this right. Yeah, and Candice shows up in a sweatshirt that says, over it, which is so Candice to wear such a bratty sweatshirt.

Like, I can't stand those types of sweatshirts. Like, over it, over it. I'm like, you're not. You're wearing a sweatshirt. You're over it, over it. I'm like, you're not. You're wearing a sweatshirt. You're broadcasting it, which means you're not over it. And the lady at the front desk is like, are you experiencing any flu-like symptoms? And Candace just starts waving her finger at the lady.

And she's like, just extreme anxiety. But that is not COVID-related. The woman's like, I didn't ask about anxiety. Are you, how do you have a fever? Are you going to make me sick? Yeah, the front desk lady's like I didn't ask about anxiety. Are you have a fever? Are you going to make me sick? Yeah, the friend that's lady's like, I'm on Timonix. Yeah, Timonix.

So I gave her the binder. I gave her the tabs and the inserts. Yeah, I gave her those color-corded inserts. So then Andy checks in on everyone, and he sees Chris Samuel. He's like, hey, he puts his elbow out for a little elbow dap. And then moments later, he's transported to the hospital after his arm is, you know, basically knocked off by Chris' little pinky.

Yeah, his elbow is crushed to death. And Jacelle is giving Wendy some advice. She's like, your first reunion, the name of the game is throw with the first curve before someone else can. I think that Jacelle did not quite take that advice this episode. So then Andy goes to check on Jacelle and he's like, so Jacelle, will you wardrobe pass the guarantee test? It's like, well, Karen is an interesting person. Not she's obsessed. Yeah. And by the way, we, Karen is an interesting person. And she's obsessed. Yeah.

And by the way, we should also mention that Monique brought to Charlotte to the reunion. And to Charlotte was just backstage just because why not? Why not have to to Charlotte there? And then Karen says, much so you talk about me behind my back because you're afraid to give me an opportunity to talk directly because you know I have a response for you. Like, what are you saying? Like, could you just say, just so you're afraid of what I have a response for you. Like, what are you saying?

Like, could you just say, just tell your friend what I have to say? Yeah, no, it's Karen. She's in her makeup chair watching clips of Monique saying that she's not remorseful. And Candice is like, I cannot wrap my mind around this, and I just cannot. And then we go to Monique's room.

And she's like, I brought a book of receipts. Call me the accountant. Yeah, everyone has a tab And Chris and the tabs are funny too. It's like old friend is one of the tabs Yeah, and then one of them one of them is labeled post-its I have to imagine that's got to be Candace yeah, so and then then Chris Chris and money pray before she goes on stage. He's like in Jesus's name we pray Read them out Amen Read them for Phil

Amen. So So then I come on to the stage and the obviously the the memo was to wear yellow and Candice has this big feather fan, like a showgirl's fan and a huge yellow bow across her chest. She looks ridiculous. I'll just say right now, for as much grief as Gisele gets, Candice looks absolutely ridiculous. Well, and for as much praise as Karen gets, she's dressed like a sponge you know those dollar store sponges that are like covered in fabric with like silver Scribblies on them. Yes. She's exactly like one of those sponges and they're like wow Karen's always the classiest dresser I know and then Karen takes off her visor because they're all wearing those like those look what do you call those visors? You have a name for it. Checkcasting store. She's got. She certifies. So Karen takes her, her's off.

She goes, woo! As if she's just been like, she just landed from like a 24 hour flight across the world. It's like, Karen, you just took up your visor, relax. Well, hey, everybody. I'm Andy Cohen with the enchanting girls of Real Housewives of Petelmeck. This season has been groundbreaking on many levels.

Which I will not elaborate on, I'm just gonna say it's groundbreaking. Anyway, I'm so happy to say it's that we get to do this in person, hallelujah. Tachala-luya! Let's go back to the markets of Madera! Like, well, the one year you haven't excused to use plastic crates. I know. They made it look like the set up like an opera or something

like that. It was very, very ornate. Like clearly, they just were like, OK, Pam and set dressing. She's had this vision for a long time. Let's just let her do this. She's sick of doing these a long time. Let's just let her do this. She's she's sick of doing these these ridiculous back drops with like Marble columns let her do her Madera fantasy. She's wanted for so many years

Is this the season that Pam finally gets to pet out her plastic milk crates? Is this the season she gets to put out the bananas and a giant sign that says Mercado? Yeah, and a plastic tablecloth Then they just scribbled over aucke de Pepeau. Like, I'm really expecting a chorus to walk in, singing some song to start the show like Mercado. Buncha. So they talk about La Puncha and Poon Poon.

And then Andy starts his, hello, Hayley Dom. Is that one of your new wings? And she's like, this is Victoria, straightened out. And then Hodges, things are good with your past, or Jamal? Yes, Andy, and I suspect by the end of this hour, everything will be just fine as well. Yes, Andy, I'm always the first lady. Well, you wouldn't have to specify that if there weren't like six other ones. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. She used to be the lady. Hey Ashley, yeah. Congratulations, baby number two is coming along. So how are you? I'm six months in. I don't know.

I don't have anything to say about that. She's just much better. This isn't up here waiting for my bout holder rip, he can't be how are you? Yeah. And he's like, hey, can't do this. How are you? I'm well, Andy.

I'm like, you brought a prize. Is that a prop that fit? Is that a prop? And she's like, it's a heater blocker. Or a love spreader, Andy. God, you're so annoying even in your opening. Can you just be a normal person to say hello? I know, exactly.

And Andy's super shady to Rob and he's like, Hey, Robyn, I thought you'd be wearing a bellish. Ooh. I don't have a yellow and bellish tattoo, Andy. Her hair, okay, there's been a lot like people are saying it looks like she's been run over. I mean, there's like a lot, like people are saying it looks like she's been run over, I mean, there's like tired tracks on her wig.

I think she's like the physical embodiment of the broken wheel on a grocery cart. You know that rickety wheel on a grocery cart? Oh, I sure do. That's Robbins, that's what Robbins hair is giving me. Now, I don't know, like, it's like I want to weigh in on it and say how it looks crazy, but then I know the moment I do that,

I'm gonna get like 50 DMs being like, that's actually like a really popular style and you're an idiot for not knowing that and then the next time you make sure you research your wigs before you, before you know and your styles, before you weigh in on it. So I feel like I'm just gonna say, if it makes Robin happy, it makes me happy. No, it looks stupid

Okay, there I said it and you're right. It will become if it's not already It will become very popular and then we'll look stupid like when Doreet had those breads Remember when she came and her whole head looked like you know at the top of a like an electrical It looks like someone brought a magnet into Michaels. Yeah like an electrical. It looked like someone brought a magnet into Michaels. Yeah. Yes. She looked crazy and then find out like the next week everybody was doing that.

So maybe it is that, but I'm sorry, it's still a nugly trend. Okay, jelly shoes were into it at a certain time. And they're stupid. Well, yeah, I mean, it was like a very yellow hair. Like it was like an unnatural yellow hair, but then it also had some sort of like pattern to it. And I was like, I was kind of fascinated by it. And I was like, is this the light? Is this a choice?

I'm not sure what it is, but I feel like if I weigh in on it too much, I'm probably gonna get in trouble. So, but then I also thought, am I really gonna get in trouble over Robbins hair? I might, maybe. Is it a risk we're taking? Perhaps, I don't know.

And you've decided, decided nope not worth it So airbie is like hey Wendy welcome to your first reunion if you got any degrees lately She's like actually yes, I've gotten three I know that there in it's been five years and since then weeks have been upgraded Decorum has flown right out the or etiquette has flown right out the window and the green light bandages Well, maybe things never changed. Let's see a montage So we see a montage Basically everybody's different looks sort of yeah, I wasn't totally sure I was what is the, I wasn't totally sure what the point of this montage was.

It was just sort of like a general, it was like a sizzle reel. It was like a general montage of things. There's like how much things have changed. So you've got like Karen at first when everything was offensive to her. And then by the end, she's like my Gucci stink.

Yeah. Yeah. And it was like mainly about like look at how their looks have changed because they did a lot of like looks through the years which was kind of funny and then when we come out of it and he's like so who has changed the most in the past five years and and Monique says Ashley and and he's like well I was gonna say Karen Karen why do you think you've changed so much and she's like well Andy well, I'm the after losing two parents. I see life differently and you can only be true to yourself.

It's like, yeah, I was asking about the wings, but that's fine too. Yeah. He's like, well, looking at the footage and listen, I did not ask you about boobs when I said hello to you. So I'm gonna take that opportunity to do that now. Do you have a boob on your face? Do you think you're gonna boob on your retelling me?

Has your vagina been tightened all the way up to your tailbone? Tell me the truth, Aaron. He was doing so well. I was like, look at him. Look at him not asking about what procedures people have had on their faces and their chest. And he was like, I feel like you've had

too weak of some sort. Uh-huh. And she's like, hmm, well, Andy, I did get an injection in my nose. I told my nose, it's time to soldier up. So I got an injection in my nose, and that's it. That's all, just an injection in the nose. She's such a liar, first of all. OK, no, I'll start.

My first of all will be injections of my nose. OK, she didn't like that her nose was big and bulbous at the end and pointing down. So she got stuff put in her nose so it would be big and bulbous and point up. I don't get that. It was a helium balloon. The helium balloon sort of raised it up. Not really sure. And how much did you get put in your nose that it pulled your entire face up? Come on Karen, you look like a bowling ball, a very beautiful, shiny bowling ball.

It looks good. I will say the biggest change in this montage is how good surgery has gotten, because Karen looks great. Whatever she's had done, I need done. And it was not just an injection on your nose. I don't know who you think your kid. Yeah, well, she had, you know what she had got, you know what she had done? She got her life back. That's what she had done. She had Ray and say thank you for solving her up and it changed her face. She actually backpedals and then she goes, well, we're talking current, right? Current, right? Oh, thank you.

She thanks them for some reason. Thank you. Thank you. She's always an oppressed conference. Yeah. And Jacelle says something. It's always not our new face. What does that mean? I don't know what that means. That's my note though. And then Ashley is like,

Well, I mean, look, I would say that you've had major upgrades, but I really like these revisions. Mm, yes. And then are we seeing the real Candace now or have you evolved? Because in the first season, she was like very much a beauty queen, they said.

But now, like, is this the real Candace or have you evolved into this? And Candace is like, well, you know, I've just gotten more comfortable with the group. And I'm expressing that comfort by wearing this enormous yellow bow across my torso. I don't know if you noticed that, but that shows how comfortable I am that I can wear some things that are ridiculous on TV and not worry about it. And Ashley used to show a lot of TNA and she's like, But now this is Dean, this body is for Dean

and the new baby. You better believe it, everyone back off, that body is mine. I was all I'd like to call it. The milk factory. All right, give me lunch. Where, where? Ashley, or it's I like to call her,

Mommy, the baby owned restaurant. Where, where? Where, where? I wouldn't say that mommy's body is belongs to me. It's more like mommy's Milk bar belongs to me. Put her up mommy. It's time for feeding. Where we? So Andy points out that she's Talking about how she's so classy now, but her vigine is about to fall out. And she's like, don't worry, it's covered Andy. And he's like, speaking of fashion, she's a lot of comments about your fashion.

And he starts just reading all these comments about Jiselle's terrible fashion, which is so rude, and also so funny. And Jiselle says, no, that's just because of Kinkle Karen, Andy. She's starting people on that Andy. Yeah. And he's like, so what, you know, when she says that, I just goes in one ear and out the other and Karen goes, hmm, he's like, well Karen, how would you describe her style? A mess, a hot mess. But, and she knows it though, that's her trademark, you know, this is trademark. And you know what? I say a you are a very beautiful woman, but your tastes sucks And she's like well, that's your opinion Karen. Nah. Yeah, she's like she's like who told you to say that Karen good one

Who told you to say that? She's like like she doesn't need a writer for that just so yeah, that's just out getting owned this early in the reunion I know. Well, I've grown to appreciate that fashion and it's been very therapeutic for me in quarantine. He's like therapeutic in quarantine. Yes, because, you know, I, I, I, I'm like, let me see what she has on and I enjoy it. It brings me joy. You know, we're in the world in the midst of one of the worst pandemics that's ever hit the entire world. It's nice to have a beacon of light, such as Chisel's table of fashions. Oh, thanks, me joy. And Wendy. It's nice to have a beacon of light, such as Jacelle's terrible fashions.

Oh, thanks, me Joy. And Wendy, who's trying to help, but is like terrible at it. And she is through the whole reunion, by the way. She's not, you don't want Wendy on your side to try to help, because she goes, well, Andy Jacelle suffers from pretty girl syndrome. She's so pretty, she doesn't have to try.

And Jacelle's like, yes, well, well if this is suffering then I like that suffrage Andy I will take it So what does Robin think about Jizelle's fashion? Um, I think Jizelle makes some bold fashion choices that aren't for me But she rocks him with her own style in her own way She kind of embodies everything about embellish embellish.com. Like, where are you asking, Robin? She looks like she's been banged in the head with a dirty soccer ball like 10 times. Okay. So Monique, what do you think about Jacelle's fashion?

This is like the pettiest reunion ever and I just love it. Like, let's have a whole question and answer session about how much Jacelle's fashion sense sucks. Yeah, it's overdue. So we got a Monique and she's like, it's just basically a hand in the face emoji, Andy. And Candace, Candace, she's also supposed to be Team Jacelle. It's like, you know what I would love? I would love you to have a date with an amazing stylist, Jacelle. And again, she's wearing that enormous bow while she says this. What?

Oh, and Karen's like, well, you should be happy you put a smile on my face and quarantine. And Jiselle's, but Jiselle's like, well, you were wearing fake fendee. Because apparently on Watch What Happens Live, Jiselle pointed out that Karen was wearing fake fendee this season, and Karen says, oh, well, Giselle wouldn't know fake fendee from Truj. She wouldn't know fake from Truj. And she's all like, it said Andy. We see that Karen is actually said Andy. And so she's like, well, can you spell alterations?

I had an alterate, so it wouldn't fall off my shoulders and show my taught us. That's all. I'm like, you're not Karen, you were never a good at alter the f off of your Fendi shirt. You did not pay to have something that says, Andy, you paid for something to say offended. I'm a damn lie. Yeah, you bought ending and you didn't realize. That is a damn lie and I love it. Mashes, here comes one right now.

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So Andy's like, well, Monique, who do you think the best dressed is? And she says Karen, because you know she's team Karen. And then Candice says that she would call it a tie between herself and Karen. And Andy's like, Monique, I thought you would say yourself. And she's like, well, I'm not that vain, Andy. And Candice goes, in public. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, Robin and Jazeal maintained their friendship for so long because they're real housewives and they should have had a falling out by now. And Robin's like, well, we enjoy one another and you know, we see each other as real friends

and not friends for strategic reasons. Yeah. And Karen's like, oh, the question is Karen, you've been gunning for them. How come all the venom this year for Robin and Jazeal who are so innocent and never do anything to anybody? Why aren't you coming for Robin and Jazelle? I can't imagine. Robin's whole attitude in this is so funny. Like Robin acting like she's so innocent this whole reunion cracks me up. So Andy's on her side for now. He's like, why are the venom towards them? And cares like,

oh, it's just good old shady fun Andy. And Robin's like, really? You wanted to put the responsibility of that fight on us. You tried to blame us for that fight And now in my messages, I have people telling me I need to get dragged. I need to jump off a roof And we've been on the receiving end. It's like that has nothing to do with you Shoot and just like that has everything to do with you Wow to do with you. Why? And Karen's like, uh, I am just using my voice side to shine the light on the, on the side of, sorry I was just doing just that. I'm just using my voice to shine the light on the other side of what happened that night. And when it was like, what other side, it was on video, we all saw it.

Yes, we did. And a lot of people are split on that one. A lot of people who have seen it. And what their meta is, Karen was making tweets like this. My heart sank at this, but I spy on some gleeful green eyes, the anointed one and hashtag her wingman, because Karen was tweeting out screenshots that was also from the raw footage by the way, everybody who's screaming that, with Robin smiling during this whole fight. Well, I mean, yeah, but I think,

I mean, I probably would be like smiling too. I mean, I would be smiling, not be, and it doesn't mean that I would have promoted the fight to happen, but I would have probably been smiling like, oh my God, this is crazy. Like, I do that smile a lot. Like, this is crazy, like a nervous smile. Like lot like this is crazy like a nervous smile like like

Whoa, what are they doing? Yeah, why are they fighting right now? And Karen's like the story just needed to be told and And can this is like what story raw footage raw footage and Andy's like okay We're gonna put a pin in that for now because we've got 19 hours to shoot today Yeah, let's go to something way more boring because that's how we do it here. How about a Wendy montage? Professor Wendy this season you had no problem schooling everyone who came your way even though you have plenty of degrees you earned your honorary PhD in shade.

All right. So the montage is basically what you think it is. Wendy going over her credentials. And the whole time Wendy's head is in the bottom corner of the screen nodding like, that's right. Every time she's like, and I have four degrees and I have a degree in this and this and this and this. And she's just down there nodding like,

you go lady on that screen. You go. Yeah. So then Andy just asked her how she enjoyed her first season and her little boys think that their celebrity is now. And all the women are really surprised that Giselle was like really so open to Wendy since Giselle is famously rude to everyone new who comes onto the show.

But they say it was because of the AKA connection and all that. And then they take a sort of a brief diversion to talk about how they were happy they were to see Kamala Harris in her white suit, you know, I'm when on the election, it was not election night, election Saturday, it was. So they talked about that, you know. Yeah. And then he was like, Wendy, you're our're first Nigerian how has the Nigerian community reacted and she's like

they're beyond excited Andy if I go to the African market I'm royalty and they're like oh my god you're my baby my baby is here get the goat and then Andy turns to Robin is like hey Robin was it nice to know that Nigerians are later to events than you are? Oh, so Wendy, are you still teaching? And she's like, yes, I teach power, policy, and politics at John Hopkins, excuse me, of the John Hopkins University Andy. And he's like, whoa, I'm impressed. And she's like, glad you are. Yeah. And she's like, glad you are.

And Ashley's like, well, but I am impressed too. I don't want to take away from your accomplishments. It's just how you use them to bring others down around you. Yeah. Yeah, viewers felt like you were constantly throwing around your degrees. And she's like, well, because I'm constantly put on the defense to defend my degree.

For instance, the other day I went to the supermarket and they said, do you have exact change? And I said, I have four degrees. In fact, I mean, the way she came out my degrees, it was just unheard of. I was watching the weather the other day and the weatherman said that outside had 98 degrees. And I said, who's bragging now. I actually met Nicholas Shay at a press event before the pandemic. And I was like, so, so what's your back story? And he's like, well, I'm from 98 degrees. And I was like, yeah, but are they PhDs?

Cause I don't think so. I've got 99 of those. And Ashley's like, well, you know, oh, and Wendy says, Ashley's talking about when we got in a fight and I said, you can call me Dr. Wendy. And she's like, yes, a conversation you initiated in a very aggressive manner.

And she's like, okay, well, when you use that term aggressive, and she says, yes, because you use your education to put people down. And Andy's like well, Karen, this is interesting, Karen, because you seem to be least impressed. And Karen's like well, it had nothing to do with her academic accolades. I'm very proud of her for that. For example, is Andy a good designer?

Yes, thank you, Wendy. Thank you, Wendy. Thank you. By the way, and just I just want to point out that in my attempt to elevate my own education in the in the spirit of Wendy I said academic accolade that's both a little bit and it's also multiple syllables so there are two smart ladies here and and he's like so when you called her of fluszy free

lancer and she's like I didn't call her that Jiselle said that I said that and Jiselle's like well I may have added that That's a big thing that's a pretty big thing to add babe. Yeah, so well the reason why I said that was because Karen from day one was trying to get you Wendy kicked off the show while like in Newberg You Karen pulled me to the side and said Jiselle tell I don't like Wendy Wendy does not fit this show. Okay, but you still didn't answer the question. Like that's so what Jacelle does. Why would you add that she called her a fluzie amare because she's been trying to get her

kick you still lied. How does Jacelle get away with this every single time? The point was about it. She is. It's like the second she's confronted about something. She just accuses somebody of something terrible and changes the whole conversation. She's very good at it. And it works here. I think that we as a society, whether we like it or not, I think that we appreciate people who are shameless about things. Like if you're just going to lie

or just like be like stir the pot, but you do it shamelessly. We're like, well, but they were being true to themselves. Like they're just being shameless. But if she tried to act like she didn't, listen, I've seen a lot of survivor, okay? And the people who win at the end are the ones who are shameless about everything that they did, all the mean things they did

over the course of 39 days. And the ones who are like, no, but I honestly really like all of you. They may be being very honest in that moment, but no one likes that. They're like, fuck you, you're not gonna win a million dollars. So this is my life lesson from Survivor. Yeah, and it works.

So Wendy's like, oh, I know she was trying to get me kicked off and care, like that is a lie. And the on sale right now, Pasha. Come on. So Karen's like, oh my God, why are we even giving Giselle airtime? Because she's just lying. And Robin's like, it's not a lie.

Because when we got back from Portland, ho ho, you said that she's not good for the show. And Wendy goes, and now we set it. She pulls out a little chamelegrammer. Yeah, I noticed that. I was like, this is a nice crossover. And Karenmer. Yeah, I know. I noticed that. I was like, nice crossover. And Karen said, no, I just had challenges connecting with her. And Wendy's like, you had problems with me because I didn't want you to mentor me. And I think kiss your ass and say, I needed your

help. And he's like, well, that's an interesting point because Candice and Ashley both came to the show like basically bowing at your feet for respect, or with respect, right? Yeah. And Wendy also calls her mother goose at this point, which is funny to me. Just, like, I haven't thought about mother goose in a really long time, and so to like, have that invoked in the presence of Karen was funny. So Karen's like, well, that's her opinion, and it's wrong.

Wendy and Wendy and I had a rough first year. I mean, this is day one this mother goose thing honey you don't you don't have to come come to me anyway and I accept you one mother goose to one lady who lives in a shoe. Oh so then he says well what about that windy slither that she did and when he loved it and cares like and you know what I love Andy? Court sports Andy, so I'd like to thank you, Wendy, for being such a good sport about the sliver. Yeah. Hey, and you're both wearing the same shoes today.

You're daunting some classic Andy shoes. And these are Uchi. I'm very proud to be wearing them. So next up is Candace. Candace is not one to keep her opinions or her tweets. I'm very proud to be wearing them. So next up is Candace. Candace is not one to keep her opinions or her tweets to herself, but this season she learned a little bit about restraint. Let's take a look.

Yeah, and it's a montage of Candace saying that she's almost ready to have a baby, but isn't sure she's going to have a baby, but she's almost ready to have a baby, but isn't sure she's gonna have a baby, but she's almost ready to have a baby. And so maybe she will have a baby. Who knows? So I heard that you finally moved out of Dorothy's house and she's like, um, you did? Is that true? Well, we'll talk about this when Chris comes out. It's like, no. You were asked a fucking question from the host of a show, answer the question, man. He's like, don't worry, I'm gonna blow up your spot a little bit later. You just watch. You had a chance to control this narrative and now you've lost it.

So he's like okay that's what we call a tease. Hey by the way congrats on your song. How's it compared to coffee and love? And she's like um well this is an actual song with no auto tune. You can tell because you can hear my voices flat throughout the entire thing Yeah, you're welcome Hey, I perform my song many times because yes, but the vocals were trash my dear Just oh and now trash again What you call my husband trash and you and your man can't control your nasty husband's hands and your husband is itching right now

So take care of him. Yeah, think about it. And then Andy's like, actually goes, Oh, don't talk about my husband itching. We all know that his skin condition is that he flakes. So, well, you can put out of my conversation and then he goes, well, you did call our vocals trash because well, it was because you asked me about the vocals and he goes he goes, well, you did call her vocals trash. He goes, well, it was because you asked me about the vocals and he goes, yeah, well, I did.

Okay. You know, so. No, it is funny because Andy does try to, it was like a little bit of a gaslight and because she's like, she's like, well, but out of my question and he's like, well, but you did, no, now I forget what it was. But the point was that Andy was acting like he actually had no

partner. Like he did not just ask her about coffee and coffee and whatever it's called. Sex. And she's like, no, you asked me about that. He's like, yeah, okay, next question. Hello, Julie from Monasis said your Twitter behavior is horrible. It didn't take you too long to call Ashley a wench and a roach and I mean,

come on, this is true. You are a disaster on Twitter. It's like, thank you, Auntie. I am someone who responds when I'm being assaulted on Twitter. That's you, I am. Yeah, yeah. That makes sense. That totally tracks.

And so Ashley's like, well, you know, I could have said that what you were tweeting at me was like affecting me emotionally and hurting me, which was basically a reference to what Candace says about Monique's tweets. And kind of like, oh, be quiet, you're just trying to have a moment on TV. Says the woman who brought a showgirl's fan onto the reunion. Yeah. And she's like, just worry about your babies and your husband. And she's like, Oh, and now you're

provoking me with my husband and my children. And Robin's like, actually, you had no problem saying anything about my husband and my children. So don't say she's provoking you by saying, you have children. Robin, why are you even in this fight? Why are you even in any fights? That's the joy of business you know for it. She's a mystery So Ash is like well she said things about me and my family and Rob was like was dish What so she said that? That your baby looks like your husband and Ash goes and that's not rude. It's like

so I'm like shouldn't that be like that's a that's a blessing? I don't know No, she did say it to be mean we all know it. We all know it. Um, yeah So they're like well you guys have all piled on Candace But we've seen Ashley talk about your personal lives and you never came for her It's like yes They did they came for her. What are you talking about and And just else says, that's not true. And Karen's like, well, what made you think these two women couldn't have this

conversation without us ganging up on them trying to make a conversation happen that wasn't ready to happen? I was like, I'm not following that, but fine. So, hey, do you guys think, do you ladies think there's any colorism? Why you keep calling Candice and Wendy aggressive and Wendy is like all too happy to hear this question she's like I'm looking at all of you all to hear your answers so Monique says that it's not about Robin's like why are you looking at me Wendy she's like I'm looking at all of you yeah so Monique says it's not

about color it's about judging actions at that moment and Wendy, but Wendy says that Ashley uses buzzwords like aggressive and ferocious You know that you know that like are like a they're basically dog whistles for people and She and Wendy says that after Ashley called her aggressive that she got like so many people who basically DMed her and we're like You're a bit of black bitch all this stuff like really really mean stuff and she's like and basically Wendy is like you have to bit of black bitch, all this stuff. Like really, really mean stuff. And she's like, and basically Wendy is like, you have to understand like that when you say those things, it's a nod and a wink to those sort of people. Yeah, it's like a dog whistle basically.

And Moni disagrees. She's like, it's not a black thing. And as she's like, well, you're doing something to inside a fight and that was aggressive. And Robin's like, well, we need to be aware of our words. And I will never refer to a woman as aggressive because of her color. And Wendy's like, yeah, but there has to be accountability here,

because you say there's no colorism, but you have to have the accountability as a fair skin person that that could hurt a darker skin person. And she's like, yeah, but that's not why I said it. And she's like, well, you do it all the time. And I'm putting you on notice. So Andy is like, so what's a better term to use in a situation like that?

And Monique is like, how about who Ratt or Ghetto? Maybe that's the better terminology because of course, that's what Candace calls Monique. And Candace is not being called out about that. Right. And here's where this all goes a little south for me, because I agree with Wendy. I mean, look, we've all heard those terms used. So if she's saying that that's a fence, just say I'm sorry, that's not how I meant it.

I meant to how you were acting, I'll do better, right? Like, that's not hard. But then they could, Wendy, because she's team Candace, we'll never call Candace out on that. And that was way worse, calling her ghetto and Hoodrat and all of that stuff. Yeah, I agree. I also think it's just, in my mind, those are two different. In this case, they're specifically talking about, you know, ferocious and aggressive,

like those words. I think that Monique totally had a very, very, very valid point when she said that, which is like, hello, apparently that's okay. Um, I would have liked Wendy to have, to have also condemned what Candace said too, because, and because it's totally wrong. Yeah. So then, um, and he's like, well, Candace, you admit that you have a tendency to provoke people and she's like, I have a tendency to use words very well,

which is sometimes to my detriment. Poor her with her, she's just so articulate. She is just can't control. With great power comes great responsibility. And with even non-lot of great power apparently comes great responsibility. So Jazeal's like, yes, but you can be extremely below the belt. And she's like, well, I could pull back and I own that.

And he's like, you know, you know, I think your life could be better if you just e-stuff on Twitter, okay? Yeah, yeah, just maybe don't tweet. This is me, Andy Cohen, who basically has a career off of you ladies fighting each other on Twitter and bringing it on to camera. And I'm telling you to ease up on Twitter Yeah, but it suggests tweeting things like good morning. That always seems to work He's like so how are you with your season long storyline of thinking about possibly maybe having kids one day

And she's like well, we're still talking about it and there has been some forward movement. So you may know things soon. And we're all behind to know. We can't wait. We can't wait to know that you like might have an IUD or something like that. So she's like, hey, so I hear you're back in school. So yes, Andy, I'm getting my MBA. I'm very excited. Well, that's great.

I didn't know the learning annex gave that out. Anyway, between this and the new house, you guys are really growing up. Wow, growing up in that new house of yours, that beautiful new house. And she's like, well, Andy, that was what I was going to tease with Chris, so thanks very much. I'm like, first of all, applause to Andy,

because he totally got her on that. He knew exactly what he was saying. Second of all, why were you teasing that with Chris? Why did we have to have a special moment that the two of you announced it? This is not like you're sitting down, mom and dad, to say, hey guys, we're getting married, or we're having a baby.

It's like, we don't need both of you guys to announce that you're having a- The bottom house. We actually really don't care. Yeah, and it's like, we don't need both of you guys to announce that you're having a bottom house. We actually really don't care. Yeah, and she's like, and I will have you know, we purchased a new home together. My mother was generous enough to donate a rubber plant and that is all that she gave us.

I was like, aha, and how about that MBA? Yeah, mom bought education. I'm like, was there a check at the bottom of the Rodber plant? They used to pull it out of that dirt? Yeah. And so it just sells like, either way, it's impressive. And you're pregnant?

Ta-ha. I'm not pregnant, bitch. So now it's time to take a break, but they're not allowed to get out of their seats, which is kind of funny, by the way. One thing I also noticed that Ash's hair went from straight to curly to straight. Actually, I didn't notice that Dom noticed it, but I'm saying that I noticed it. But her hair kept changing.

Yeah, I was doing straight. Then it was like, I then I had like a curl and then it was straight again. So they clearly did get up at some point, but for those of you guys who were wondering, I think they got up. I'm here to tell you guys. They got up at some point. So while they're sitting there on break, Monique and Ashie start talking and Monique is calling Candace and just

Elfake and Shise, you know, all that stuff. Yeah. So she still hasn't had any accountability. Oh, the fakery. And, you know, them trying to spread all this stuff behind my back. You know what? You want rumors? We can play rumors. You don't want to see what's in that binder, honey. I was like, oh, yes. And then we get a close-up of the binder. And when we come back, Jacelle, this season, the word on the street, will sit there as a pastor in your jeans.

Yeah. So we see this Jamal segment. And while it's happening, you see in the little corner, Karen's watching, and... Or not watching, because she puts on like her lip gloss or whatever, and she, but she like does it like aggressively, like... Well, I'm putting on my lip gloss, but bap bap bap bap bap bap bap My lips to show how much I don't care for Jamal. Bap bap bap bap bap bap So let's start with your house. Is the West Wing complete? And she's like, uh, no, cause of corona, basically. And he's like, okay, let's talk about the real questions.

You're the course sucks, everybody talks about it. Can you feel about that? Well, I just like what I like, and it all works together. Or not. But not your opinion, Karen. It was just a question. No, it wasn't. Yeah.

Well, I'll be able to. Well, I mean, are you open to the idea that some things might not work well together? I mean, look, the theme of your house is Ronald McDonald. Orange, red, purple, really everything, and they all goes not well together. Well, congrats, Karen. Her geritol kicked in. Oh, let's do the age-wise thing. Sorry, age-wise. And Wendy's like, um, it's age-wise thing. So we're age-wise and when he's like,

um, it's age-wise. Do it again, Wendy. Do it again, Wendy. Age-wise? Well, honey, you're 50 years old, so don't do it. All right, you're 50 years old. Kick. So what's going on with every you? So the manufacturer, Jiselle says the manufacturer shut down because of COVID, which explains why no one has any access to any makeup for the past nine months in the world. But I can't say, oh really, are you still selling your product? Because Le Dom didn't exist, remember?

And my fragrance didn't exist, but my fragrance is in Bloomingdale.com, retailing, retailing. And Jiselle's like, well congrats about that. Oh, well, you said it didn't exist. But my fragrance is in Bloomingdale.com Retailing! Retailing! And it just feels like we're all congrats about that. Oh well, you said it didn't exist. You come from him. If your business is out of business, just tell the truth because word on the street is target liquidated you. Through water on the wet to now, she's liquid on the floor.

Listen, I mean, I don't mean to brag, but uh, unless you have your own fragrance, that's it's side by side with Hennel number four, I don't think you really get to talk about these things. I'd diamonds, that's what I'd next to. Session by Alvin Klein. And Andy's like, well you did have a go at her and the chickens are home to roost now. It's like the manufacturer closed, but we're not done now. And he's like, I wish you well.

I wish you well. And if you want, I can put you in touch with a very fabulous designer. Her name is Donna Tello or Sachi. So Andy is talking about Jamal. is Donatello or Sachi. So Andy is talking about Jamal. So Jamal runs a new birth church, which is fitting, when she's saying, I mean, come on guys, he's really just going with the theme of the church. You can't expect Jamal to work at a place called New Birth

and not have one himself. Yeah, exactly. Get the guy break. So how often does she's L.C. Jamal and COVID? And she says she doesn't get to see him a lot because George's numbers are crazy and she isn't reckless with how she handles COVID. She's only reckless with whom she gives her heart to. Yes.

And he's like, what about the scene with your dad? That was awkward. Mostly because he could have had a free refill of iced tea and didn't take it That's how much he wanted to get out of that scene Well my dad loves and supports me and if he didn't have that feeling we'd have a problem I mean he's my dad. He's not supposed to prove a gemala or his Seven baby mama's So Andy asked the other women if they see a difference in Jacelle since she reunited with him and then comes the

Karen and Monique tag team that we did not know We needed to change my life. Yeah, so Karen's like, oh are you back with him because that's not what the word on the street is The word is you and Jamal said he would save your job by pretending that you're still together And I don't want to talk about it because it's just so dirty and low down. So I want to ask you, are you in a relationship with that? Yeah. Or is it your relationship true? Or did he have a baby with another

woman while he was dating you? Cause if that's true, if it is, it happened on your watch while you brought him on the show. I mean, I don't want anything to do with this. I don't want just people to ask me questions. So then we go to commercial and we come back and she's still girl ignorant. She's like, well, your father said that he had a baby with another woman while he was dating you. Is that true? And just, she'll just laugh. And she looks a little flustered. I have to

say she looks totally, she looks totally caught. I mean, Jezel was the biggest loser in this entire reunion. She totally got Ramrod. And how was she not prepared for this? It's been all over the internet. Yeah, she looked totally blindsided. She had this like weird smile on her face. Like she's like, I got a smile now because otherwise they're going to think they got to me. But she's like gulping hard and like her eyes are kind of like glazing, like glazing over there. Just look like they're And like her eyes are kind of like glazing, like glazing over there. Just look like they're, they're, they're focusing on some distant area and so Jacelle's like, um, she's like, well, since you don't want to have anything to do with it,

Karen, great. Andy, any questions? Uh, and he's like, well, would you stay with him if he's had another baby with another woman? She goes, he has not,. My father was exaggerating and we've been through a lot. And Monique's like, um, yeah, but when you were announcing that you were back together, he told his girlfriend it was just for a storyline. And she's just going, thanks. Thanks. He's like, well, how do you know that? And Monique's like, oh, because the lady he's been dating, she's a pastor and she reached out to me a long time

ago. And she sent a bunch of screenshots and picks of him in her bed and things like that and You know, I said well, I'm not gonna use that because I don't play dirty But you know, she's all likes to play dirty So he's definitely been talking to this other woman who's a preacher and it's very clear Conversations and if you'd like to see them here's my trapper keeper So she whips out her binder and starts just thumbing through it. And she does that thing where she's licking her finger to get through the pages.

Like she's ready to go. And Candice goes, oh, she's been waiting to show those receipts for months. It's like really, a lady who shows up with video footage of Michael every season. That's true. I'm doing it over there. So Monique's like, well, then you can react to,

because Jacelle says, I have no reaction. And she goes, well, then you can react to this because he's always asking her what her schedule is. And then she asked what he's doing, his little church to words. And because, well, how do you know that those are really from her? And she's like, you want me to call out his phone number? I'm sure she knows what his phone number is. And then she just keeps thumbing through the papers and starts calling out his full phone number. Yeah. I was like, what's your motivation behind this?

I'm like, it's pretty clear Robin. So Monique says the number and Andy's like, is that the number and she's like, yeah, that's the number. Oh, that's so awkward. And Candace goes, well, that's the number. Oh, that's so awkward. And Candice goes, well, that's unfortunate. Yeah, and so then, so does that upset you if that's his number? And she's like,

well, I don't believe I, anything that comes out of Monique's mouth. And anything that does come out of her binder. I mean, I'm glad she's done some bindering. Ah, good, there we go. Back on the track, bindering. I mean, funnever binder. And Monique keeps going. She's like, good, there we go back on the track, mindering, I'm in front of a binder. And Monique keeps going.

She's like, well, and then she says, for me, it's not a good idea to travel to Atlanta if you're trying to put your family back together. And he says, what are you talking about? And she says, what am I talking about? And then she screenshots the actual article about him trying to put his family back together and Candace interrupts.

And she's like, are we really listening to this? This is the same person that was running in Crank Wolf to Bravo when someone was writing truths about her. Yeah. Yeah, that's what you do, too. That's exactly what you've been doing all season. It's Crank and running to Bravo and Crank Wolf

about the tweets she wrote about you. Why not? Hypocrite. Yeah, she's like, this is your friend. Like, I think she's saying that to Karen, you know, she's, and Candace is like, did you bring a whole binder to read verbatim? What a hoe might have had to say about a pastor,

it's pathetic and it's low. I'm like, man, you're the one who brought like a frivolous ass case to the courts, you know, that cost a lot of people money. And also, she just called a preacher lady a hoe. But, too. The lady they're talking about is a pastor, okay? So Monique's like, well, of course I'm bringing

receipts to back up what I'm saying. So while you sit over there having fake, fraudulent relationships with your ex-fraud, bringing a different man to the reunion every single year, well, I hope you're sitting behind you this year, Pastor Holiday Hor. Since when you wanna keep calling my husband a big boy, if you wanna do that, you this year. Pastor Holiday Hor since when you want to keep calling my husband at Big Boat, do you want to do that? Pastor Holy Hor.

I wrote holiday. I know, I like that. It's lovely. I mean, holiday hor is adorable. Like, holy hor is like, wow, the holiday hor is like, that's kind of cute. Pastor Holiday Hor. Holiday hor. So.

So, just they're completely destroyed and so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, deal around this congregation in Atlanta and you know it you're a fraud. And then she actually stops because Jazelle is so destroyed like she's literally well emotionally I shouldn't say literally but she's like on the ground completely been destroyed and Monique actually stops for a second so Karen goes Is Jamal coming? She's like no, of course not. And Andy's face, his jaw was on the floor and he was just looking back and forth like, oh shit, what do I do now?

I'm excited to see what else comes out of that binder. Oh, yeah. It's a good binder, yeah. This is the first time anybody has ever gotten just out like this. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. No, so glorious. Wow.

It was a good first hour. I'm excited to see where it goes. Next week it looks like Candace is gonna go off crying, which is expected. And I'm hoping though, as fun as it was to watch Monique just read Jezelle, it was fun, but it didn't feel like it was central to what really needs to be done,

which is for someone to really read Candace down. That's what I'm looking forward to. That's why there's a whole binder there. So there's a lot, a lot in that binder. And now that the case has been thrown out, Monique's going to have Adder, I'm sure. Yeah. Oh, man, this is one of the times I'm finished with my notes and I'm actually sad to be at the end. Yeah, I know. I'm finished with my notes and I'm actually sad to be at the end. Yeah, I know.

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