Watch What Crappens - RHOP: The Accountability Sing Sing Along

Episode Date: November 16, 2021

Time for The Real Housewives of Reunion Part 2. Candiace cries when confronted, Wendy reads her enemies to filth, and Mia and Karen deny every damn thing they can. Find all of our premium bon...us episodes at https://patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens, and get tickets for our Winter Tour at https://www.watchwhatcrappens.com/10th-anniversary-hunky-dory-tourSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:49 Hello! I just wanted to be calm today, I don't know why, but hello everybody, it's Watch What Crappens on Ronnie. That's been over there. Hi my little Benjamin Moon. Hi Ronnie, I'll also be a calming person for you. No, we do not need to be calm. It's a recap day. It's real housewives of Patoma Kade, reunion number two of four.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Four. We will be going on, I was saying to Ronnie beforehand, like between Patoma and Beverly Hills, by the time this is done, we will have been covering reunions for eight straight weeks on this show. I'm about to lose my mind. It's so fun, but it's just, it's really rigorous. will have been covering reunions for eight straight weeks on this show. I'm about to lose my mind. It's so fun, but it's just, it's really rigorous. It's like so much to write down so much. It is.
Starting point is 00:01:33 And you know, I've started doing it like, um, we're gonna make this fun time. And so I get like got like a tray of cookies and a blanket. Oh, fun. You know, sitting front of the fire and just make a night of it. And it's fun, but you know, I'm not feeling great because I ate a lot of cookies. I mean, they take a long time and there's so much like screaming
Starting point is 00:01:53 and yelling on reunions and God, I love it, you know. And I'm so, I feel so lucky that we get to do this because really rewinding with closed captioning on and hearing every single little detail. I feel like there's so much that I would miss if I was just watching it. Yeah, it's true. I mean, I think, like, I think you have such a great outlook of like, let's make it a fun time and as an excuse to have cookies, which I'm totally going to do next week.
Starting point is 00:02:16 But like, my issue is that I had just left a pot, I left a potluck early because, well, not that early, I just left like 30 minutes early. But before the ice cream came out, which is a like 30 minutes early, but before the ice cream came out, which is a big deal for me to leave before the ice cream. And I was just like, I was in food coma, I was without ice cream. And all I wanted to do was really just go to sleep or play like a little video game or something. And I think like when you have that mindset of like, I, this is not what I want to be doing right now, it makes it that much harder. So I really like your take, which is like, make it the, make it the time of the week when you get to have cookies,
Starting point is 00:02:52 you know? And I think that's really going to help me. I'm totally going to adopt well. I couldn't go to sleep without watching it. First of all, I couldn't just be like, I'm drunk. I'm going to go to bed because I would go to sleep like, oh my god, searching the hashtag on Twitter being like, oh my god god who are we mad at this week ladies so and also I have no life you know I'm still in Texas I've been here two years really haven't left the house except to see my mimo really and learn like see the nieces or whatever so these are my friends you know we can mimo I'm so sadly I'm like Karen Hugh guy go my friend Speaking of me, ma's can we give a big a big tap dance to the to the sky's to miss Lois who passed away Today, she was our wonderful wonderful low that lowest that's Lisa Rina's mom
Starting point is 00:03:42 So rest in power as they say, but also let's you know This is not a sad moment. This is a celebration of a wonderful, wonderful life. So, so RIP miss Lois, RIP. Yeah, she made it a long time. I mean, she was 93 at the same time. A long time. It's crazy. Yeah, and she was like, I mean, she was sharp as a tack until the end, it seemed like, but she had a stroke on Friday.
Starting point is 00:04:00 It was very sad, but I'm trying to do this Ronnie in a way that is celebratory and happy, because I know you don't like it when Well, low is some of the podcast, but that's a huge bravo icon You know my thing is when it's just like some rant, you know some rando It's like you know that Tom Jones is you know butler passed away not that that makes him any less important But you know what I mean? I just feel like sometimes people like to relish in all the bad news You know those people who were like how are you today? Oh my god. Did you hear about Lucy sister cancer? It's like oh my god seriously like every time you see them. They only talk about bad things
Starting point is 00:04:35 Well, I'm not like I'm not like that. I it's just more like though I wouldn't want someone to listen and be like how are they? I'm not acknowledging like that This is like something that happened so yeah, that's my way of making sure our listeners are feeling seen and heard. But also, more importantly, RIP, low S, RIP, big time. Yes, for sure. Okay. And now from RIP to RHOP. Or to Shilman. Not that. So go buy tickets for Crappens Live, turn on sale now, watch at Crappens.com. We start in January in New York City. We're going to 21 places, going to be so much fun. Go get your tickets.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Also, dwell hello is our House Hunters podcast. That got picked up for another season. So we're going to be doing a bunch more episodes of those. Those are already on your feed. If you don't like, I'm skip over them. If you do like, come to our Instagram at watch what crappens and tell us what episodes you want us to cover. And we will do that. Okay, we're going to be going in. We're going to be watching a Thrupple episodes soon with a famous Thrupple episode. We're even going to be
Starting point is 00:05:34 downloading Discovery Plus for it because it's so monumental. So it's going to be fun. Yes. Okay, so here we are with Real House was a Potomac reunion part two. And we're starting where we left off with me and Candace fighting and Candace just screaming, you know, just yelling, both of them just yelling over each other, but Candace does the repeating her words thing until the other person is quiet. You know, just if you just repeat the words enough, shouting them, the other person will get tired, you know, it's a classic housewives tactic and she is using it right now. So Mia's like I'm not talking
Starting point is 00:06:11 Yeah, she won't let me talk so fuck her and Candice is like get fuck me fuck me I'm like doing gestures like she's fucking yourself on the couch Yeah, and Mia's like my mother wanted to tell her story and Candace goes didn't seem like it. And Mia says, well, you would never understand. Spoil, brant. And she's like, I wish I could understand, but you ruined the opportunity. I love how she's been such you ruined the opportunity by being disrespectful. So sorry Mia's mom, sorry, sorry Veronica, you could have told your story,
Starting point is 00:06:46 but unfortunately, because Mia was disrespectful to Candace's shitty music video, you've lost your platform. Yeah. And so she's like, she won't let me talk. She's shat the fuck up about my mother. She's like, you do not get to decide who I attack or how I respond. Yeah. I love, she's being a victim on being policed on how she attacks people.
Starting point is 00:07:09 It's huge not get to tell me how I am vicious and vile to someone I get to choose who I'm gonna be vicious and vile to. Yeah and she's like yeah well you know what fuck you I'm done with you and you met her watching her back and then when he's like, what you're fucking back? Oh my God. Did everybody hear that? That was a threat. Yeah. I mean, it's like, her ass kicking is overdue. And I'm not the one to do it. And he's like smiling. And he loves it. He's smiling like, yeah, Kikure, I love this. This is fun. Can't wait to lecture everybody about this next year. I can't just scream,
Starting point is 00:07:45 you don't understand what I am going through. So, Candice is like, are you gonna kick my ass? Are you gonna kick my ass? Which is a nice call back to, are you gonna drag me? Drag me. Drag me, Monique. Yeah, Jazzal goes, well, I hope not,
Starting point is 00:08:01 duh, because she's three times bigger than you, wah. And Karen's like, oh, well, listen, Candace, are you stepping out on the streets of Nonsuri County, talking to strangers this way? You said you wanted me to burn and go to eternal hell. And when Jizzell says, I hope not, because she's three times as big as you Candace goes, well, you encouraged her to do it. So she's already laying the groundwork to blame someone else for her ass, maybe getting kicked later.
Starting point is 00:08:28 You know, you got to, you got to respect how Candace lays all this groundwork, you know, throughout those fights. So then we see a clip of Karen at the last reunion talking about the text being told to burn in an eternal hell. And she's like, Candace, do you do you understand? This is like a tourism and Surrey until I came along. It has to stop. What you have to understand is, just now, and I have been doing it for six years. What pros? We've been dicing each other, slicing
Starting point is 00:08:58 each other, but we do not do is we do not cut to the bone. Get us like yes, you do. Because no, I do it with a twist of humor. And so does she. I mean, as humor as she can be. And what do we do is we leave enough grace and then she, like, she can't even finish her statement because Wendy says, but you said that she has an STD. And... Jacelle's like, yes, well you respond, can this, uh, you respond to 100%
Starting point is 00:09:27 Don, I don't respond to 100% of the things that come out of Karen's mouth. And she's, well, I damn sure don't respond to 1% that comes out of Jisels mouth. Hmm, twists, twists of humor. Yeah, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. You said she had an STD and Canvas is like, yeah, because you made a t-shirt making fun of your friends, tactful. So, and I don't think this means to is like, yeah, because you made a t-shirt making fun of your friends tax-wo, so and I don't think this means to be said, but it does, I guess of course Karen's full of shit. Of course she's full of shit. Yes, you do. Yes You do do that. So Jacelle's like, well, so Candace is like she called you a broken whore from
Starting point is 00:10:00 Hampton University and Jacelle goes, yes, but I don't respond. So like, but she talked about your vagina, your legs, body shaming, body shaming, she body shams, she body shams. Yeah, but I mean, I think that the difference is that, well, I'm not gonna say that this is fully, I'm sure there are exceptions to this, but it seems like Jacelle and Karen, they go after things that have been done or actions
Starting point is 00:10:26 or activities. They don't necessarily go after the things that you're born with that you can't change. I'm sure they have. I'm sure they have. Well, stuff by large. They do. They do, but it's like, but that's true. They do, but there is a sense like, okay, you give it to me, I'm giving it back to you.
Starting point is 00:10:45 It sort of, it does have a, there's a sort of a sportsmanship about it. And, and Candace doesn't, she doesn't really read the, she Candace just goes in for the kill. She doesn't really, she doesn't meet the, the recipient of the insult where they are with the initial.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Like, her whole thing is like, you come after me. Like, if you leave me alone, I'm fine. But like, if you mess with me, I'm gonna come back and the thing is that she always comes back so much harder that it's like, it's like, it's like, yes. It's like punishment fit the crime. And also, there's like body shaming, yes.
Starting point is 00:11:19 But then there's also calling a pregnant woman fat or a woman who just had a baby fat, you know? And she's like, you have no, and by the way, this is from someone me with a horrible fucking mouth. So, like, I get to the moment of glass house right now, okay? So, hello, I'm waving to everybody from my glass house. So, she's like, you have no self-awareness, so.
Starting point is 00:11:40 And Andy's like, well, we got a lot of comments about your body, Shane, you can't this. You were talking about her big ass feet. How big are they, man? I want to shame them too. And she's like, they're 12. And he's like, well, you know, so why all the body, Shaming Candace, you said everybody does it?
Starting point is 00:11:56 And she's like, yes, there's a history in this group. And when he's like, yeah, actually said that me and Vagina is beat to a pulp. Is that body shaming or just behavior shaming? I can't tell. I'm not even trying to be funny. I'm really can't tell what the line is on that one. I have no idea. And didn't me say, she was commenting on something Mia said about her husband being so big
Starting point is 00:12:20 and coming from behind or something. Wasn't that it? I think it's just what the Candace, she just also goes to the same well over and over and over again. So like, yeah, they all kind of, they'll have those moments like what, the stovepipe lag or things like that. But like, Candace just hits the same note repeatedly, like forehead, forehead, forehead,
Starting point is 00:12:38 like big feet, big feet, wide ass, wide ass, wide like over and over and over again, that's kind of like, okay, this is not like a one-off shade. This is like an ongoing attempt to like really like find a vulnerability and just wreck someone because of it. And I think that's where it's like it sort of catches everyone, right?
Starting point is 00:12:57 So can this. You know what I do? You know what I do? It's a canvas for me, honestly, because I had to think about this long and hard, because this is the episode colorism comes up, which actually I was surprised it was just such a short little thing. It was like they didn't even finish the conversation and I was actually kind of looking forward
Starting point is 00:13:11 to the conversation after so much build up. But you know, I was doing like a lot of self-checking, you know, like, you know, a lot of the, I've talked about this the season like is my issues with Candice like is it a race thing like what what is it like hidden bias or is it no like honestly to me It's the reaction to it's not what she's even saying. I mean, I think if she body shames Ashley says like distasteful things Okay, it's her reaction on being called out, you know She always acts like a fucking child when she's called out. Everybody else knows how to deal with it or say, I'm sorry, or not. But Candice, every single time goes, ah, you do it. You do everyone else does.
Starting point is 00:13:54 You do it. You do it. It's like a little fucking child, you know? And then later when she's talking about how her response, she's so eloquent. It's just her responses. You're just calling people fat and ugly. Like, how is that response, she's so eloquent, it's just her response is, you're just calling people fat and ugly. Like, how is that response?
Starting point is 00:14:07 You know? Yeah, I agree with you. I was also doing a lot of that because I think it's really important to know like, is my reaction coming from a place of bias or is it coming from just what this person is doing? And as far as I can tell, I don't think it's coming from a place of bias, but it's often the people who are the most biased who don't realize. But that being said, I was also thinking almost the same thing, which is that, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:32 with Candace, it's like not just that she says these things, and not just even that she goes the same well, as I mentioned a few minutes ago, but also like when someone like Vali's it back to her, she starts to cry, and then she's like, oh, there's a good amount of victimization when someone like Valleys it back to her, she starts to cry. And then she's like, ugh! There's a good amount of victimization amongst really literally every real housewife or Bravo star.
Starting point is 00:14:51 So that's part of the course. But she really pulls out the tissue. And everyone else does it. And you're right, it is so childlike that. It just kind of is, it's almost like there's not that, there isn't that resilience that Karen and Giselle have, which is like those inflatable things where like,
Starting point is 00:15:08 you knock them, they come bouncing back, right? Like, I mean, she for sure is tenacious, but I think that's why everyone is kind of like, wow, you come so hard and the moment anyone like sort of comes back at you, you're like crying, and then you got the tissue paper. It's just, you know, I think that's where I feel my emotions come from.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Yeah, she's a baby. Like I was sitting there, I had a plate of cookies, and I literally looked at my plate of cookies, and I was like, I will not give that child any of my cookies. A little fucking brat. She's getting none of my cookies. So, Canada's like, and Wendy was subject to a gorgeous body shaming, and Wendy goes,
Starting point is 00:15:43 oh yeah, happy and mess. No one fucking shamed happy and mess. No one did. Everybody, you've had a fucking parade around the block for your tits, lady. Okay, all season long. Nobody has shamed it, happy or nass. Yeah, I actually agree.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Candice and Wendy, like having each other's back is making me crazy throughout this whole reunion. Yeah, if anything, if I seem to remember, it was almost like Wendy was a little bit of a shameer to Mia in the beginning of the season about what Mia's gone done, right? Just a little bit. So Ashley is basically Ashley's like,
Starting point is 00:16:18 well, she's like, well, well. What I will say is that it's coming back to me because I'm the one with the saggy titties now. Carm is a bitch. Yeah, because we're talking about Sharice, because Ashley's like, you know, we actually referred to Sharice as titties as saggy. And so Candace is like, well,
Starting point is 00:16:34 and you know what, with karma, my feet may grow. Maybe I'll have big ass feet, but they won't be at 12, that's true. But maybe I'll get karma to you. Ha, ha, ha. So then Andy's like, well, Candace, Saran from rap Michigan wants to know if you've considered anger management and why did you feel the need to throw food at me?
Starting point is 00:16:53 And Candace is like, when someone is disrespectful to me in a way that I feel I'm being bullied or someone is attempting to push me into the ground, I'm going to respond. You were chasing her around the house, I'm going to respond. You were chasing her around the house, calling her a whore. What kind of revisionist history is this? Yeah, I think she has to get into why she feels so easily, why she feels full on bullied, right? Like that's, and that actually is maybe where the colorism may come into play because, you know, colorism is a very real thing and, you know, who knows what her childhood was in terms of dealing with that and what sort
Starting point is 00:17:29 of like, sort of reactions and triggers that has now like built into her, but I think she has to maybe deal with why she is so super easily triggered into thinking she's bullied because it's almost like, it's almost like, it's almost feels a little bit like a get out of jail card. Get out of jail free card, right? I'm like, well, I was bullied. I was triggered. It's like, well, you're so easily triggered and bullied. And I'm not taking away your trigger, but maybe you should look into why you're so easily
Starting point is 00:17:53 triggered and like wind up flying up the handle like this. So Andy's like, when the Candace is your buddy, what do you think about it? Come back. And she's like, well, I do think that we all cut deep And he's like, but so you think that she's no different than anybody else. She goes, no, I think that when Candace says it She sticks the landing Andy. Yeah, right You're fat. You're a whore So Candace is like, um, yes, so I do do I not stick the landing to spare the feelings of the people in this group
Starting point is 00:18:26 Okay, all right you're not on frickin like inside the actors to do it here Don't like your act she I think like she has to like like like like like dampen her craft Her like ruin her art to spare people's feelings. Well actually, maybe you should maybe you shouldn't stick the If you are actually if everyone's getting annoyed with you Maybe you should consider what you could do stick to the, if you are actually, if everyone's getting annoyed with you, maybe you should consider what you could do to spare the feelings of the people in the group. I think that's actually a good thing in life is to spare the feelings of people that you're around.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Yeah, so she, Karen's like, can is, well, I just don't see the sticking landing at all. I don't think she is sticking landing as ridiculous. Like when you stick the landing, you don't get dragged out of the room by your husband because you're having a literal physical temper tantrum that you need to be pulled from a room to stop throwing things.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Yeah. And scream more at the top of your lungs. That's not, I never saw Kerry Strog do that. I don't think, I don't think drag me Monique is really sticking the landing. It's just the same three words. But, you know, I just think that like, I forgot what the rest of my point was, but it was gonna be really good and probably a piggyback off of Carish. It was a yes and a
Starting point is 00:19:29 Carish drug. And my red everyone merrily retten. We still got 10 hours left in this recap, so don't worry. So, Carish is like, Candace, if you keep going, you may not have to spare anyone's feelings, because everyone may tune you out and just and if you want to tune me out and walk away from me that's fine because what you are failing to remember and Karen's like no one wants that but we don't want standing the line of fire either. Yeah and just all goes you know I've been here for six seasons and Candace interrupts her and says but you've been the worst reader in the moment because well there never had been an altercation with me.
Starting point is 00:20:06 It's well not with you, but you did walk your friend into your other friend's restaurant to get in her face. At which point I knew you were so happy about this. Yes. Yes. Just Ellen Robyn going into Asher's restaurant. I was because Robyn is such a fucking hypocrite and she was last season too. Because Robyn is almost gotten physical with Monique and Ashley. So her whole like, oh, what a horrified was always just hugely hypocritical to me. So it just
Starting point is 00:20:33 sells like, yeah, but I didn't know what she was going to do. And Robin's like, I just saw Ashley and I saw red. And she goes, well, that's anger, which is a decent point on Candace's part. And so she's like, but the point is I'm very aware of myself. You all aren't aware of yourself. You want to hold me to a standard that is different from the things you all do. She's not a Candace is the least aware of herself. If she were aware of herself, we wouldn't be having this conversation. I'm not saying that they're aware of themselves, but she is definitely not aware of themselves. So Candace is like, says that everyone has done something that that gets physical and Robin is like,
Starting point is 00:21:05 okay, well, so you don't think that maybe you take it like maybe a step or two farther than other people do? Because I think I am better at wielding my words. It's like, stop, like you're okay, Ms. Wordsmith. Like stop trying to turn this into something that elevates you in this situation. You know, you're tenacious and you're like, you're vicious, okay? But like, that's not the question of whether or not you're vicious. It's that you do take it as you just like you don't read the room. She's like that person who's drinking three glasses of wine when everyone's on their first.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Oh, I feel so seen. So Robins like, you just drags on. It just drags on. And Andy says, well, see you play. They're trying to give you big sister advice here. Candace. She's like, and to my sisters, I say, I'm okay. I hear you. And he's like, well, when you found out the backstory of me as mom, you
Starting point is 00:21:57 did have a lovely apology. And then months later, after the show started airing, Mia, now I'm saying this to you. And I saying this to you, and I said this to Candace last year, you have become a disaster on social media disaster. Candace is like, yep. And she goes, yeah, I own that, Andy. And he says, and your light in Candace goes,
Starting point is 00:22:19 the worst, the worst. Just shut up. Oh my god. Doesn't mean you're good Candandas on those kinds of things. Let him do it for Christ's sake. It was so funny because she's like, I own it. It was my social media manager that was basically me. It was my twin version of me, my evil twin.
Starting point is 00:22:36 And I own it. I own that I didn't write those things, okay? It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap and it's coming. Celebrity beef. You never know if you're just gonna end up on TMZ or trending on Twitter or in court. I'm Matt Bellasife.
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Starting point is 00:23:17 It snowballed into a full-blown alleged feud. But it doesn't seem like fans are letting up any time soon. Despite both Selena and the Bieber's making public statements denying any bad blood. How much of this is teen jealousy and lovers quarreling, and how much of it is a carefully crafted narrative designed to sell albums? Follow this and tell wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon music or wonder ya. And so then Andy's like, yeah, you played your social media manager, but do you think your an ad free on the Amazon music or wonder yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:49 And so then Andy's like, yeah, you played your social media manager, but do you think your social media strategy is landing for you? I mean, because you're getting fired to these guys and Chris Bassett and all these people and cast Kattas. Cause yeah, my husband wanted to speak with you according to you. And she says that because the tweet was, you'd be mad if you in family, your husband was causing my salad in the kitchen, Sue shelf, which is just a terrible, nonsensical tweet, who even knows what she was talking about. And Mia's like, well, ain't definitely a thing. I was a disaster. And I will do better.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Okay, everybody. And Wendy's like, but it was you, not your social media manager. And she's like, but I do have a social media manager. And she wears bald gowns and she works behind the bar. And then she takes off her dress sometimes. That's what I've always said from the very beginning. Her name is Marrera. We're Mia and Marrera.
Starting point is 00:24:43 We're basically twins. So Candice is like, so did you block me or did she just oh, you're blocked? My bad, I didn't know. She also is like pretty close to me and she's like pretty much the same person like we really miss well And we've known each other for over 20 years But I do own everything that was said even though it wasn't said by me, but I own it even though I totally didn't say it and it's all her fault, but I own it. So Candice is going, woo! Wendy says, this is pathological. I mean, it's like when I own everything I said
Starting point is 00:25:14 about not being a fault for anything. And Candice is like, so your social media manager wakes up at 7 a.m. to make attacks at a scholar. And then this is about the, um, oh, why don't we see your lifestyle because you live in a townhouse with your mother, tweet. And a scallop is like, yeah, are you paying them overtime? Oh, by the way, everyone, hi, I'm still here. Are you paying them overtime? Because you, because let me tell you something, Andy, I'm trying to figure out why we got all these tweets about a scallop from me. Like, why,
Starting point is 00:25:44 why are you worried about this much about me? And poor her scholar, she's made all these printouts of these texts as if Andy really cares about what's going on with a scholar's life. Yeah, I'm poor thing. Then they never even get to the printed texts. And he's like, so why were you blowing up this Kinko workers Twitter?
Starting point is 00:26:02 He's standing here with all these copies. I mean, is like, can I sing about? And when he goes, this is my thing, not just your social media. You're going and you're responding to people. And Candace is like, and why are you reading those? Like, you don't know what they say. Like, give me a break. She goes, I have a whole team. I'm sorry. So when he goes, so how did your social media manager know a scarlet in the townhousehouse only you can know that? I mean, I was like, well, I need them to speak on my behalf and it needs to be my word. See, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:26:31 All right. Back in 1972, a scientist ripped me from my mother's arms and it took some length and I created an alternative version of me to separate people, but we share the same brain. So naturally, I wasn't writing the tweets, but my thoughts did transfer over about the townhouse. I was like, send twin information about townhouse, so that's how that happened. And I take total accountability for it.
Starting point is 00:26:54 What is that? What? What is that from? Is that from a TV show? I fully made up the narrative. It wasn't a parody of anything But it just sort of sounded like something I was trying to figure it out so hard. Yeah, Ron is like trying to add it to his Netflix queue
Starting point is 00:27:11 He's like I need something to watch I know I need new friends So Also, this is this is terrible mystery solving right? She only you knew that she lived in a townhouse. Oh, really? Is that some huge secret in the housewives world that a scholar has a townhouse? So Mia's like, um, well, you know, they know what I know because they have to speak on my behalf. And Andy says, Mia, Ernie's speech bleached, but on Twitter says the scholar, you said Mia is classist, but the only
Starting point is 00:27:40 ones who showed classism were you and Candace, what's wrong with being a stripper? And the skull says well every time that we were together it was talking about how many businesses she owns and how much money she makes Which is like so tacky and like Mia, I'm not like I'm not like I'm not the IRS I don't need to know how much money you make every year landed it I needed to get that line and thank you Andy So much and Candace literally has the nuts to say she consistently wields her Economic status as a weapon. Um, weren't you the one aren't you the one always calling people poor roaches on Twitter? Man, yeah, like are you the one to really be saying this? So the one who was extremely triggered about having a music video
Starting point is 00:28:24 That was low budget was called low budget and like being like like furious about that insinuation. Well let me say this it's your first season is a housewife. Yeah and I've seen it happen many many times you get new boobs. I'm sorry that's your next season okay. But first season you get swept up in the moment and you go wacky on social. She's like, I'm gonna leave these girls alone. I don't even worry about them. Yeah, she's like, I've got other things to do. And then they're like, oh, oh, now they're like mad. They're like, they're like, oh, God,
Starting point is 00:28:55 that wasn't a friendly answer. She's like, well, it's an honest answer. Oh, well, you need to say, like, I'm not gonna, like, you need to not say things. Like, I'm not gonna worry about these girls. So now they're like mad with her saying like so Candace is gonna tell people how to react with manners now, which is just hilarious after the last segment So Annie's like whoa, we're not gonna solve the cat is in here. It's you
Starting point is 00:29:19 And when he goes I believe it's been soft Okay, yeah because I believe it's been soft. Okay. Yeah. Ascala, thanks for being here, didn't even realize you were here. But know how they got you in here, but those are cool printouts. Next time you use a color printer, be even better on TV. Okay, bye Ascala. And me, I go, he brought her all the way here
Starting point is 00:29:36 to say those two sentences. So he calls break for an hour. And then Candace is, everyone gets up. And Candace is like, um, Jiselle, let me tell you, this is bullshit. And she's like, but you do go too far, raw. And she goes with me, and she says, with everyone, nah. And she goes, but I wasn't just at 10 by myself.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Tim Gold, Candace. Jiselle's like, you got to have ownership for something Candace. It'll do you favors in life, th backstage Ashley Ashley's asking me if she's okay I'm fine I'm fine I'll see you I'll boss bitch etc etc and then Wendy goes and knocks on Candace's door and it like comes in and they like have a little chat and Wendy's like I always got you back out of the group. You can use your words. You're the best at saying words. Yeah, your words land. And Candace is like, when I say your mama, all hell has broken loose because I could have gone
Starting point is 00:30:33 into the gutter at that moment with Mia. But your gutter is everyone else's hell and they laugh. And Candace is like, yeah, I'm a bitch. My responses are hard. You know, if you leave me alone, if you won't have to go there See she keeps saying that it's like yes, but like a lot of times people do leave you alone. It's like you can't even She's like you can't even like like the slightest thing
Starting point is 00:30:57 She will use as justification is like well you came for me. It's like I brought you a kind bar, you know so So then we have a Marshalls commercial. Did you see this Marshalls commercial? Um, with Sierra and Sierra and Melissa Gorga. It was like this very strange pairing of Sierra from Summer House and Melissa Gorga of New Jersey. Yeah, I don't like that commercial because I feel like when Sierra says, um, I mean, did I leave my doors unlocked? That's just too believable. The Gorgas broke into your home to go into your father's. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:29 They need to do less realistic storylines. But they also made like Melissa Gorgar, kind of like the fairy godmother in this situation. Like, oh, here's Sierra. This sad, gorgeous fashion model who needs the help of Melissa Gorga from like tacky ass wherever she is. And like, I think it should be the other way around.
Starting point is 00:31:50 That Melissa Gorga is like, you know, dealing with the crap at envy and she needs Sierra to come in and spruce her up. Yeah, I'm honestly gonna be honest. I caught about five seconds and pressed my favorite button, the FF, okay? The FF. I watched the whole thing. It was, I watched the whole thing. I got myself very involved in the narrative.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I kept on hoping that there'd be more cameos, but it was just the two of them and it was strange. We're back. Yeah. Karen and Jazal, the season, the tension escalated. And when you went after each other's families, just said she wanted to raid a lift, but is the friendship dead.
Starting point is 00:32:30 So we watched a whole montage of them going back and forth. And then, uh, So I got to ask a question about Jacelle's fiery box. And Karen's like, oh, yes, yes. No, I got that from the blogs, the blogs. And Candace's like, hotbox means you have an STD. And they're basically saying how it's like, it was all over the blogs.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And then when he goes, oh, really? But let's disregard them though, huh? Let's disregard them, right? Yeah. I wasn't sure what the, I understood the point, but I was like, aren't you on the side of a hand ever mind? Well, she's, I think she's expecting them to be all up in arms about it, right?
Starting point is 00:33:09 Like, but Jacelle, my other Jacelle or Karen really care. So she's like, but let's disregard them. But the whole point is that they are disregarding them. Jacelle didn't disregard them as stupid, you know? And Karen admitted they were stupid. So, and in fact, that's what Robin says. Robin says the same blog that said something about Eddie. Said something about Jacelle, Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah. I don't remember that, I believe it happened, but I don't remember that. So I just wrote, Ugg, she's so annoying right now. That's what I wrote.
Starting point is 00:33:52 So Robin's like, Wendy. She's like, next question. Okay, Wendy, the second chair, or first chair has gone to her head, Wendy, okay. Move her over for a segment. So Robin's like, oh my lord. And Andy goes, so Barney from Rubble says, what do you have against Hampton University, Karen?
Starting point is 00:34:15 Because you call Jazelle a broken or from there. And she's like, well, first of all, the ambassador of Surrey County would like to formally apologize to Hampton University Their drive-through diploma department is respectable and it's only 99 cents for a supervised French fry So sorry Hampton love your ins now We all have to respect a university that has ham in the title. It doesn't come out of Surrey ham But still a good try not just ham but tons of it
Starting point is 00:34:42 and come out of Surreyham, but still a good try. Not just Ham, but tons of it. Tons of it. Now I wasn't sorry about calling you a broken whore because that's what the streets were saying, just now. Mm. Mm. And then Candace goes there, is that ho-word? Because she's trying to show that people
Starting point is 00:35:00 have just as mean and just as cutting as she is. So now she's trying to call it out. but she doesn't seem to understand like how words work and that they have different like impact with different contexts with different intonations from different people. So um, and he's like, well, you made a car, you made comments about raised tingling and that's where the comments come from. And Jacelle, well you sat there and you said you were hurt and destroyed because I wish Jeff on Ray which you knew at the moment and you know now is never true. Wow. Which is completely true.
Starting point is 00:35:37 This was crazy on Karen's part. She's like, do I believe that you wish death on right now? No, no, I don't know that we've been through it and I've watched the season, but how would you feel if I said your daddy had to be dead and buried before your looks faded? Mm-hmm. She sounds like, well, from that comment,
Starting point is 00:35:56 I would know that you don't want my father to die, yeah, because I understand the English language, ah, and if Raven came to you and said that was an issue, why didn't you just discuss it season four five five what six season six now like why did you discuss it then? Thank you, well Raven was just a child then now she's a grown woman and it follows her around and we have her grown woman life Hmm Raven I Love that Karen is to run Raven under the bus for a while. She asked me not to. She asked me not to with my little child She was a child and she grew 14 years over one year. It was amazing. I
Starting point is 00:36:32 Know it's like a toddler. She sent to the old island, you know So it's like in between succumb seasons. Yeah, you know like when they're like three and then they come back in their 10 years old Well, first of all Karen's crazy with this. Jacelle never said she wanted Rey to die and second of all, the real asshole in this is Rey. Okay, you're the one who should be apologizing. Rey was a fucking asshole when he said that. You have to go find a man before your looks fade. That's disgusting. Yeah, okay. Exactly. So then Andy is like, Liberty from Mutual says, Wendy, do you think it's hypocritical for Jacelle the want Carina to apologize when Jacelle goes around talking about Eddie and other people's
Starting point is 00:37:11 last bans. I just like I didn't spread any rumors about Eddie and Wendy is like no you went to everyone except for me talking about rumors when Karen spoke facts about Jamal you know and, and I have kids who can read, okay? So good job, Jizelle. Let's clap for you. Let's clap for you, Jizelle. Okay, and before we even get onto this next part, she's so right.
Starting point is 00:37:34 I mean, this is Jizelle is such an asshole for doing this. We're bringing those rumors up on camera, up behind her back. It was shitty, it was a snake move. It was horrible to do to somebody. And I would just like to remind Wendy that that's the exact same thing that Jizelle did last season to Monique. And guess who's side you were on? Jizelle and Robbins. It's the same storyline now being played out against you. Have fun. Okay. This is who you supported. Okay. And you might want to think about that and look
Starting point is 00:38:01 at who you're currently supporting because that shit will come back to bite you as well. Oh, we can, this definitely. So just like, so then just, this moment which goes, and I have kids too, and you looked at my daughter, Kakad, crazy, it was all on camera,
Starting point is 00:38:15 and even our kids, even Grace's friends called her and said, when did he look at you crazy? So then when they show this footage of like the party, the reasonably shady party, when Grace is going walking up the driveway to get the car, and you just see Wendy just looking at it.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Like it's, to me, it was like a normal. She just watches her pass, yeah. She just watches her pass. I was like, I was like waiting for it. I was like, I don't see anything crazy. She didn't smile and say like, thank you, or anything like that. Like she wasn't.
Starting point is 00:38:42 She was like, pleasant. Pleasant. I thought she was like, had a pleasant face on, if anything. I thought she just still had her serious face but was watching them pass. And then when she passed, she kind of like looked her up and down. But I think she was just maybe thinking like, oh, what a nice young lady.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Yeah, I didn't think of anything of it. Or just trying to find fault in everything at all times. Yeah, or maybe she was thinking, what the hell is going on here? Why are, why is Candice and Candice and Grace like going to a car right now? It isn't Grace, the one who nearly drove like a VW bug off of a cliff or something,
Starting point is 00:39:17 like what's happening? Yeah, but just, Al has no likes to stand on here. So she's trying to make it about you hurt my child. So Mia's like, are you calling her daughter Al- a liar when me? And she goes, I'm calling like Jacella liar. You want to see how mature I am? I apologize to Grace. There. There. I apologize to Grace. So make sure you apologize to crowdroom crews when your time comes. And if you want to do it in writing, that's fine because they can weed. It's our might of
Starting point is 00:39:41 conscience. Okay. Make sure, make sure. Make sure you apologize to my children. So then Juzal's like, I stood up to their father. Or their father. She's saying, I stood up for Eddie and said that he did do. Oh, for there. Yeah. And Wendy, that doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:39:57 So she's like, you didn't stand up for shit. We watch you, liar. Lire. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap and it's commercial. And he's like, okay, Lire. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crapence commercial." And he's like, Okay, moving on. A bear from Charmond Wisconsin says,
Starting point is 00:40:12 How are we supposed to believe anything Karen says when she said Chazelle went to sing sing? Well, it sounded good. You know it sounded good. And you like deliteration? I'm not sure what I know what that word is, but it sounds fun. I wanted to lift the moment. We went too dark. I wanted to be an example to a young idiot like Candace.
Starting point is 00:40:33 I went too dark, so I thought I'd be... make fun times by making wild accusations about sing-sing, which as we all know, is the place where you go and you watch both movies of the sing franchise. I'm building a new neighborhood in Surrey called Sing-sing, the place where you go and you watch both movies of the Singh franchise. I'm building a new neighborhood in Surrey called Singh Singh. Sounds fun. Bring the whole family. And Robin's like, oh, but you also said that she was a drug addict and alcoholic and wasn't in a mental institution.
Starting point is 00:40:59 So we see a clip of that and care. It's like, no, I didn't. No, no. Well, you can't. I did say drug addicts and alcoholic and stope pipe leg. Okay. I did say that. But what's so funny is that like usually when they said, you call them, you call her a drunk, you call her a drug addict. Normally, the clip is something like, oh, and you've been drinking and I have no what you've been doing at night. But that's clip is just carrying going, you are a drunk and a drug addict. You are all those things. It's like the most blatant, like, there's no other way to hear that line right there.
Starting point is 00:41:29 I didn't say that. No, I did say drug addict and I did say alcohol, like sure, but did I say them in that order? Mm-hmm. And Candace is like, well, those are fighting words. Thinking she made a point, you know? But no one through things or had to be physically carried out of the room by their husband so they
Starting point is 00:41:46 wouldn't get into a physical altercation. But then his L jumps in it makes a point much better. She's like, um, do you understand that Karen and I sat across from the table and we didn't fight. Yeah. Well, I did grab the table. I grabbed it. I grabbed it because I was shaking so much, but that was mainly because I was in the presence of a one-wit candle. So, Jazeal is like, and that is what the difference is, and Candace is like, but it's still verbal sparring. Yes, but it wasn't aggressive. We were stating facts, okay? Karen actually starts to laugh at her own bullshit. And did you catch that? Because when she says facts, she starts to giggle because she's,
Starting point is 00:42:28 what's, I mean, she knows she's so full of it. And then she's saying we were stating facts on the, on the, on the heels of this clip of her saying, you're a drug addict at an alcoholic. I was saying facts. That's all. She's full of shit. So she's like, well, here's the difference.
Starting point is 00:42:46 I have regret there. I said it now. Can you say you have regret, Candace? And Candace is like, absolutely. Yes, I have regret. And as she just sized and Rolls-R-I's like, Jesus, this is so, what? Make it and.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Well, I will say it was really fun seeing the two of you getting along. You know, you got to explain satellite tossing to the auntie bagging. Now, okay. I want each of you to say something positive to each other, okay? So just I was like, hmm, well, we were in the doghouse with each other, but you were woman enough to say I'm coming to this woman's house. So I've got to bring her something and that was respectable. She brought me a gift.
Starting point is 00:43:29 And then you saw my kids and you jumped up and you hugged them and that shows a deep love of... Oh my god. I'm gonna cry. Oh, Andy, do you have an erection? Because I'm gonna cry. It's finally happening. Put that thing away, Andy. Yeah. Oh gosh, I love that she said you brought a gift to my home. She brought you the dumb shit to your home. Yeah, okay She brought you like product placement these two are inca hoots for this whole thing and it's hilarious So she's like I am going to cry. Yeah, and Karen's like do not make me cry. I do not make me cry So they both make my too. I Like to be part of this. I'm gonna cry too. So they both make crying too. I like to be part of this, I'm gonna cry too.
Starting point is 00:44:09 And Karen says she likes to hold onto a grudge, but I also hold on to the trust of a child and me. Thank you for respecting that. The one thing that binds us is motherhood and nothing else because as I mentioned before She's a slut with a firebox and there's a drunk and an alcoholic and a drug user But you're also a phenomenal mother and I know that you have this armor because of what you've been through and it takes a strong woman To come through that and be vulnerable what you barely are so you're barely a strong woman And I'm looking forward to moving on and a funier lighter way you silly drug addict. I know you guys will always I know we'll always say to each other. Yeah and then they do the fake housewives hug which you know every reunion meets one.
Starting point is 00:44:54 So then it actually all right it's an Ashley Sagnan someone purposely got themselves impregnated with not one but two of Michael's children. Let's watch this play out. Here's my answer. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ It's still ended seven months old now and Dean is two years in the remonstrate and now she's like Oh, and by the way Dean looks like me now, so everyone stop freaking out. Okay, we all saw the picture in people magazine He looks like me now everyone. So Andy's like he's like so tell me about postpartum What made it easier this time around is because your boobs were a little bit bigger? Huh usually fixes a lot of things I've nothing to say I wrote blah blah. I hate this All right a lot of things. I have nothing to say. Bobbi, I hate this. Alright, Will Michaels moving in the movie producing in a galaxy of that ideas I've seen on housewives. Why?
Starting point is 00:45:52 Why, Ashley? Well, he's worked really hard and has changed in the bank, so he wants to pursue something he wants, and since I told him he couldn't be girls with made up mains who can hold five of his in their corn hole. He chose filmmaking Andy. Well Samantha from Lester Massachusetts feels like this is just Michael wanting to get into porn and she's like, oh, I didn't think about that actually. I mean, well, across that bridge, when we get there, I guess, which is also the name of a porn he really likes. And Candace is all mad like it's serious. They're getting into porn. And so Andy was like, so you were insecure. How are you now? How are you feeling
Starting point is 00:46:32 now? She's like, well, you know, now I'm just like I was back to before kids. Andy, I'm just thinking every day, looking at Michael counting the days until he dies of a stroke or a heart attack so I can finally get the goddamn condo to myself. Thanks for asking. Our sex life is basically like those yurgens or jerkens commercials, you know where a woman just goes up to a little alligator and rubs it on the side and is like, oh, scally, that's us now. All right.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And she's like, so, you're your back to normal are you with ladies now? She's like um you mean Team ladies while I'm not saying no to that and while trips to a guitar She's like well maybe in the future So Molly from the UK says Hello folks Candace why do you seem to relish in being so nasty to Ashley about her postpart of body? Telly how?
Starting point is 00:47:28 And Candace is like, I relish in being nasty to someone who has been nasty to me. And Ashley is like, can you just answer what the question that was asked? And she's like, I am speaking. I didn't speak when you were speaking at all. I just rolled my eyes a lot and made faces at every single syllable that came out of your mouth. And that is called landing it. Yeah, landing it.
Starting point is 00:47:50 So, and so, Jacelle says she was offended by the wide body comment, and she's like, this is a woman who just pushed out a human being, and you're going after her, and Kendice goes, so what? And you're making reference to a postpartum body, so Robyn's like, you know, no, no, Candice goes, no, can this goes, no, I wasn't. No, that's not what I was doing. Of course. Of course, I do know, you guys know
Starting point is 00:48:12 the moment that Candace gets pregnant, she is going to be the worst. She's gonna be talking about like, it's just amazing to realize, I have this body inside me that I have to take care of. I have to shepherd it. Like you can say all the cliche things, right? So Robin says,
Starting point is 00:48:26 oh, Candice, new word of job to make it hurt. And then we're going back and forth. And she's very good at that. And it wasn't about her postpartum body. It wasn't. Okay, well, I'm just going to ignore that. Ashley and Julie from Goon says,
Starting point is 00:48:40 your mad about Candice commenting on your body. Do you consider what Michael said about your body? The same. And Candace is like, she can't just keep something like nodding her head and like her head, she's moving her head like back and forth like, she's like, okay, I'm gonna just stop, we stop your bobble head for a moment. Stop bobbing that weave. Okay, because she says, stop your bob from weaving. Yes, stop your bob from weaving. Yes, stop your bob from weaving. So, so then she goes, well, so he goes, he really wasn't saying it that offensively.
Starting point is 00:49:12 I mean, and I go, you know, like what you said was, like what you said was purposely offensive, but like getting in shape is like really important for me and Michael and like, it's something that I should with him. And so we're just talking about that. That's all. Well, also, Michael's a pig and should be arrested for sexual assault. But he was saying that she looks great and Candace said she's a wide-bodied ass. How are those even the
Starting point is 00:49:32 same things? I don't get it. Well, yeah, it was a, well, because, especially because, well, Michael's comment was definitely obnoxious because he was like, well, you're losing light, so that's really good. But I'm not here to defend Michael in any shred. But when Ashley said that, I'm like, if they had a conversation where she said, I'm really, really trying hard to lose weight. And then we see a clip of him saying, and you're losing weight, so that's great.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Like in that context, it's maybe slightly more tolerable, and I don't wanna give him anything, but like after hearing Ashley said, I said, ooh I don't want to give them anything, but like after hearing ashes, I just think they're both disgusting, but I don't understand how they're like similar in the same question. I mean, look, Candace is gross about it, and Michael's fucking gross about it. Yes, they're both gross. I mean, is that the question? But yeah, and he's like, yeah, this what about the comments about Ashley's breast milk? Are you jealous? And she's, oh, yes. I'm so jealous.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Actually, becoming a mom before me. And everyone's like, is she really crying? We can't tell. Landed it. So Ashley says that she thinks it's going to be humbling for Candace to have a child. And they'll be a lot of apologizing. Candace goes, listen, I'm a black woman. And she has made comments about my hair being dry.
Starting point is 00:50:46 So should I be offended by that? Because you have a privilege being a lighter skinned woman with looser curls. And everyone groans. They're like, oh god. And so Mia goes, oh my gosh. And as you as you as she yells, this issue of colorism has to be addressed right here and right now. I have never denied that lighter skin privilege and white privilege exists.
Starting point is 00:51:08 I'm a by-reach of woman and I can't do anything about it. Candace. And Candace says, well, and I can't do anything about being a dark skin woman with forcey hair. So Ashley says, but you always take the conversation about us about being about color and Candace says, well, I don't bring that up, which is kind of, literally just brought that up. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:26 So Wendy is like, uh, Ashley, do you think colorism exists in this group? And she goes, actually goes, I don't think colorism exists within this group, which now this is, this is obviously like, I'm a white guy. I'm not a woman. I'm not a black woman. I'm not a dark skin woman. So I, I can't speak really with any authority in this, but it did seem kind of crazy that she said it doesn't exist in this group because as Wendy says, like, how can you say colorism
Starting point is 00:51:50 exist within society, but then this group is void of it. Like, it sort of has to inherently, right? I don't know. Here's my note. Ronnie, you don't know. That's what I'm talking about. That was a note. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Yeah, I don't know either, but it just sounded funny to me that Ashley was like, Ashley was like, in this group, it absolutely doesn't exist. I was like, I feel like that's gonna haunt her. I feel like that, not haunt her, but I feel like that's a comeback to bite her. Well, my issue is that, first of all, Wendy's like, does, now, now, Candice, does it exist in this,
Starting point is 00:52:20 how could this group be void of it? And then she, like, leans over and puts her finger on her chin, like she's on screen. Yeah, like she's ridiculous. And then ask, you know, answers, here's my problem with it. This is a real discussion. Like I would like to actually hear the discussion, you know?
Starting point is 00:52:35 I actually would really apologize. But it's not that it's ever, it's never brought up as a discussion. It's brought up whenever Candace is called out on something. That's the only time I've ever heard it, brought up in this group. If Candace has been called out on something and she's getting mad about it, she uses that, where I would actually like to hear an actual discussion about it, but then this
Starting point is 00:52:55 derails again and Ashley says, well, I don't see any situations where colorism takes place here because there are perceptions, health and society. They try to project things into this group that I don't think naturally exists in other words saying all the people on Twitter Saying there's colorism doesn't mean there really is colorism, right? So Candice is going mm-hmm. Oh Well apply that to everything I do that you say is offensive because a lot of that comes from an audience that wants to impress where they are in their lives Onto us and ask you's like um you called me a slave so offensive because a lot of that comes from an audience that wants to impress where they are in their lives onto us. And as she's like, um, you called me a slave. So I kind of cause no, I didn't. And she's like, you said Michael drives his slaves and she goes, no, I tweeted two years
Starting point is 00:53:36 ago about Michael being an overseer and you took it upon yourself because you have nothing else going on to bring that up. I'm like, I feel like, uh, it's a pretty, I mean, that is a that is a To say that on Twitter like Michael being an over-sitter overseer. I think it's okay for that to kind of like that beat get in Ashley's bonnet There a little bit, you know like especially if Candice is the one later on saying as she holds on to garages I think that like having your husband regardless of who Michael, like if someone says that like your your husband is an overseer and then then you by like implication are there, therefore a slave, I think it's okay to like be angry about that and
Starting point is 00:54:14 and to hold on to that for a little bit. Yeah, I just re-pretending this wasn't on fucking television. I mean, come on. It was just like two weeks ago. So then, I mean, Candace, she's like, no, I didn't. She goes, yes, you did. You said Michael drives his slaves. And then when I asked you if that meant that I was a slave, you just sat back and sift your drink at me, which we see the clip of that.
Starting point is 00:54:34 And Candace is like, no, I didn't. And Robin goes, yes, you did. It dinners. She goes, no, I didn't. That was two years ago, that tweet. And you're doing this now. And your husband has talked about my husband And she's like, okay, so Michael calling Chris white trash is one thing because that's a white man talking about a white man
Starting point is 00:54:50 But you came out of your mouth and called me a slave and she just goes Ashley Ashley and she's like you're the one who wrote it. It's on Twitter and she goes Yeah, you can get a check a different way Instead of coming for me you can get a check a different way she goes girl coming for me, you can get a check a different way. She goes, girl, I had my check before you set your ass on this couch. And she goes, well, then earn it on your own terms. Not with me. Find a way to get another check. You know, she just does the repeating thing about checks.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Now, I just like to read some tweets from Candace. Okay. So on wild, 200%. We will not completely ignore the fact that there is now an unwelcomed cockroach in my home. What kind of person who is asked to leave someone's home doesn't leave? Roaches raised in barns, that too. This is the last time I'm coming down here to your tent.
Starting point is 00:55:34 I don't have to ask my white husband for an allowance, nor did I lay on my back to get the lifestyle you so desperately try to hold on to, and yes, my natural all-black hair gets dry sometimes. Two cheers for your white daddy. And there's a lot more, but why read them? Just don't, you know, this is my issue with her. Well, and then the thing is this is that Candace then tries to cast herself as the mature one
Starting point is 00:55:57 in this situation by saying, I have no issues with you. You want to fight with me. So Candace is inherently a docile and lovely person who has nothing but kind things to say. It's just that people mess with her and therefore, you know, and I just don't understand why that can't be applied in all situations, right? Because I think everyone would say like, I'm fine, but you came at me. So therefore, I responded. But like, she seems to be the only one who is allowed to have a, like to respond that it's okay for her,
Starting point is 00:56:26 let's just her respond to nasiously. So then Ashley is like, well, you're the one who's bringing me into all these conversations and she goes, earn your check a different way, Ashley. And she's like, no, because you continually say things. And Candace is like, but you have done really
Starting point is 00:56:40 fucked up things to me. I'm not gonna cry. I'm not gonna cry. Of course, you're fucking crying of course Yeah, I called out and you cannot fucking back it up. So here you go And I hold grudges I hold grudges You're the one who just got mad at ash if we bring up something from two years ago So then ash just like what did I do to offend you?
Starting point is 00:56:58 And so of course it comes back to the Monique statement, you know And Candace was like that was so then the Monique statement, you know, and Candace was like, that was so vindictive. And she's like, it wasn't to hurt you, it was just to seal that whole situation. And Jacelle's like, can you receive Vod that she did not want to hurt you? And then Karen just goes,
Starting point is 00:57:13 yo hold it up on a group. I need y'all to get over this. Get it, Barric. It's like enough, enough with this. And Ashley's like, look, we can still have a good time. And then he goes, actually, yeah, you guys had a fun night out at New York Fashion Week. So then we cut to pictures of them parting it up together at New York Fashion Week, which really made me mad because I'm like, okay,
Starting point is 00:57:35 so this is just all fake bullshit. And I'm getting all worked up over here. And they're really friends behind the scenes. Then I got really mad. And Canvas is like, well, Ashley is actually a very fun girl. I have never not said that. Yeah. She was, I'm able to put things to the side. I'm not able to, I can't forgive that. I can't. I mean, you're also friends with this person knowing that, like, you stand behind what you did. I will never trust you, which he says you're all friends with this person, meaning Monique. Andace, and then Candace is also upset that Candace is all friends with Monique. And Robyn's like, well at this point Ashley says that she regrets that you were hurt, and she do not think you'd be so hurt by it. Are you able to at some point move forward for crying out loud? And Candace is like, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Oh god, so of course this segment ends with Candace the victim again. I mean, she is good at it. You have to hand her that. Like now, suddenly she's the huge victim in all of this. Again. So then we get to the Wendy segment and her boobs and Zenwen and her fur coat stripping thing for her invitation or whatever.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Yeah. And Natalie from Brooklyn asks, what's the point of Zenn? When you were never Zenn going out to Mia and then Jazelle and Robin over the Eddie rumors, I mean, what the hell with the self-given nickname? So when he's like, okay, first of all, Zenn, when was not a self-given name?
Starting point is 00:59:00 Eddie gave me that after I told him to call me that. Okay, so that's first. I mean, it's like, yeah, but you said it several times. TikTok me. I'm Zen. When? That's what you said. All right. Well, Katie from Miami says, I think you look great. Can you please list everything you had done so I could do it to signed Katie from Miami, not Andy Cohen who wrote this in? Okay. She's like, a left and I did implants and I had a BBL with just taking fat from something else and putting it in something else and then like moving your earlobe to your nipple. I've quite hearing in my nipples now, which is fantastic. And I just want to put this out there.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Women are going under and down because they're going to the wrong places. And I researched my doctor and he is board certified. So women, you've been saved. There you go. I know I was like, what is this humanitarian movement? She's creating about plastic surgery. Well, coming from Wilson said Robin and Jazal, you're comments about Wendy and her plastic surgery and outfits are so anti-women. Jazal Robyn! Why are you trying to shut down her agency by commenting on her body? And Rob was like, oh I had no problem with it! I think she looked beautiful, but we're just saying, hey, we noticed a change, what's going on? And Andy's like, yeah, I mean I was pretty surprised because like you're a professor with all the degrees, and like, as we all know, when you get your boobs done,
Starting point is 01:00:25 your degrees evaporated to thin air. So I think is it a favorite question? Don't they take out any smarts in your brain when they blend in bigger boobs? Come on! So Wendy says, it's not what you ask as you deliver me. And if you sit down to have a conversation,
Starting point is 01:00:42 say, hey, go, I know it's just a difference, we can have that conversation, but I was never really given that opportunity and Rob was like, what, I thought that's what we're doing. So then we see a flashback and in the beginning of the flashback, it does seem like that's what Rob is doing. Like just sort of seeing it again in this context. She's like, yeah, I just want to know
Starting point is 01:01:00 because I noticed that like, it's sort of different now and the Wendy I met last year was not that loose. I'm like, oh, see, that's where you went wrong. You called her loose. And even if you met like you're loosened up more chill, you can't go on reality TV and say to someone who has new boobs that they're loose now. It's not gonna land properly.
Starting point is 01:01:19 In this case, Robin, not a good lander. She's not can't using it. Yeah, Robin's not really known for sticking the landing. But I think what made this worse is that it wasn't, they didn't just sit here down. They waited till it was a dinner with everybody, which is housewives, so that's what you do when I get that. But they had also already done this behind her back for like a month. Well, I just, no, I mean, they talked about it before dinner. I mean, I just, no, I mean, they talked about it before dinner.
Starting point is 01:01:45 I mean, I still content. I don't think it's like the worst thing in the world to be like, hey, we're seeing like, like you have like a whole new, so like your personality seems like it's sort of transformed. And you've also, you know, like you've had these surgeries, like, we know that there are these like rumors, is this are you okay?
Starting point is 01:02:05 Like, is this coming from that place or is it just like you're feeling yourself, right? And that's what Wendy was saying it would have been a fine conversation to have. But then when you watch the clips back, you realize the combination of Robin saying, like you never were this loose and then Giselle saying, like the Wendy from last season was a Wendy of substance.
Starting point is 01:02:24 It's like that's not how you have that kind of like, hey, just checking in on you moment, right? Right. Well, I'm still on the there fucking wrong team. I've been on that team the whole time. Robin and Jacelle. So Robin's like, well, my observations were less about your appearance and more about your personality. I said, Candace, I can't say what it is, but Wendy feels different. Candace goes, yes, that was out of concern. I do remember that. She's like, well, how would you take it if someone said you'll lose and then said you lack substance?
Starting point is 01:02:52 It doesn't seem like that's coming from a good place. And she's like, it's like we were with the different cast make tar. Your reaction to Mia was way different than the Wendy I knew, which is also true. Wendy with her like crazy reads of Mia at the beginning of the season That didn't really make sense with her take talk
Starting point is 01:03:08 Take talk. I mean we all can't act like we like we started the season and we're like whoa What's happened to Wendy right like we all felt that right so Wendy but Wendy is like well my interaction with Mia was mild compared to what me and Ashley had last year at the lake house and Just I was like yes, but you were telling Ashley to call you doctor Wendy. Yeah. And we were telling this girl, TikTok, you don't stop. Yeah, me that last year, Wendy was leading with the fact that she is a, like, multi-degree professional on a doctor and like very educationally accomplished.
Starting point is 01:03:42 But of course, then everyone made fun of Wendy for leading with that. So then she changes it up and everyone's like, wait, why aren't you leading with your education anymore? Yeah, damned if you do, damned if you don't. Well Sam, from Smith, to Austin, now, if your reads are practice, Wendy, because they seem kind of practice. And she's like, if I can go up against a White House
Starting point is 01:04:00 Quest Secretary and eat her ass up, do you think I can't have these women off the top of my head? I understand it's so eloquent that you think it's rehearsed, but baby, I get paid for my words and you're gonna eat, you're gonna get every last bit. I was like, well, that was rehearsed. Like, well said, but also rehearsed. And I've seen you on the news and like every other commentator on the news. Those are all worse. Those are all practice. Your point doesn't stand with me. Well to Wanda from Bridgeport said, when the I'm surprised you went for Professor to Candles. Why come out with Candles? It seems off brand.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Oh, just out of this here handwriting. Just out of this. Did you write this? Also, why don't you get some purple walls in your home? He's like, are you candles available for purchase? And she says, well, yes, well, they're not now, but they will be by the time this airs. And he's like, well, some say it should have been in stores
Starting point is 01:04:56 by the time you started the show airing, Wendy. She's like, well, I'm just doing the best thing I can with this business thing, Andy, okay? Now, I'm not saying that Bravo gets 5% of your candle sales, because you got to promote it on our network, but if they were to get 5% of your candle sales, Bravo probably would have appreciated it if you got those candles into stores before the season 7. So Bravo could have gotten a little bit more money, huh? Just saying. Man, there's a candle she's selling for $130. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:05:27 People really pay that much for candles. I mean, I know candles are very fancy, but good Lord. Good Lord. Good. It's on sale for $100. I saw it last night on the Twitter. Go to CBS. Go to CBS and get something from the aisle.
Starting point is 01:05:39 It's like a special edition, $130 candle. So anyway, he gives Karen shit. He's like, what's up with you going to ask Karen her advice and then Karen withholding the fact that she has a candle. From my neck I was shady and Karen's like, and everyone and Wendy knows I announced my candle four years ago. I led the way and plus I've got three weeks. So. So Mia's, yeah, because Mia's was one week, obviously.
Starting point is 01:06:08 And Mia, so Mia's like, she's, oh, I'm sorry. I what I meant to say was Mia, it turns out, has come out with a candle also, which I didn't realize. I guess I must have missed this on social media, but Mia has a candle But it's also just one wick and she actually was able to get it to the market before both of them Which is kind of hilarious because she's a boss bitch I'm seeing now So Karen does her whole thing where she's like well, this is a multi-billion dollar industry and there's room for all of us Back the tables. Oh, I'm not threatened whatsoever. It just happens to be that my candles the largest room for all of us at the tables or I'm not threatened whatsoever
Starting point is 01:06:45 just what happens to be that my candles the largest out of all of them that's all is like but you're the one who got the Wendy a one-wig wonder on water and have a line and she's like but wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait and the eye owned that and I am the three-wig I stand by that let's sell the hell out of our wicks ladies and as we all, the wick scale only goes up to three. So nothing could possibly top that whatsoever. And then when it goes, I have an announcement. Um, only has a five, six, and seven wick candle now. And he's like, Oh my God, which checkmate with me. But what happened after this, which is so funny is is that me and came out with a nine-wit
Starting point is 01:07:27 candle. Oh my God. No. Are the wits just like arranged in like a ring or something? Is that how it works? They're just just bigger can, you know those huge candles, one wick would only melt right in the middle. So the bigger the candle is, the more wits they have.
Starting point is 01:07:42 So me as is like a stand up, it looks like a coffee table or like a side table within my god. At some point, they're just going to be releasing like a bonfire. I know. I know. I know if I was a housewife, I would come out with like a 10 wick fire extinguisher, like a 10 spout fire extinguisher, you know, because they're going to kill people with these candles. I have an H wake candle and it's it's so big It has to be separated into eight separate stems. It's like that's just a menorah You just have eight candles on a menorah Karen So then they take a lunch and then they come back from lunch and just like did you have a nice lunch Robin? And she's like no, I was trying to take a shit like I'm
Starting point is 01:08:21 and she's like, did you have a nice son trobin? And she's like, no, I was trying to take a shit like couldn't. Submeticore for her engagement. So Andy is like, well, Wendy was giving us sexy. The blogs were giving us marital rumors. It's barely a transition there, but okay. So when certain friends tried to bring them up, Wendy was in no time, tearing them down. So then there's a montage. And he's like, okay, who here at
Starting point is 01:08:47 her, the rumors coming into the season. And so Robin and Karen both raised their hand. And maybe one other person was a Giselle. Maybe I guess I don't know. Candace is like, not me. Never. I've never heard those rumors in my life. And Robin's like, it was an unreliable blog.
Starting point is 01:09:03 And when he gets like, yeah, they attack us viciously and they make stuff up. And this is my issue. That blog was an unreliable blog. And when he gets like, yeah, they attack us fitiously and they make stuff up. And this is my issue. That blog was read by hundreds of people. This show is watched by millions of people. Oh, okay, so you're saying they're giving life to it by bringing it on the show?
Starting point is 01:09:16 Okay, Jizzell, you want to respond to that one? Well, it's difficult to go through the social media terror that we all go through, why and the tone was, I, uh, Jazelle need to check in on Wendy to make sure she's okay with all this social media nonsense, because I know firsthand, uh, Ashley knows firsthand, uh, as well, how difficult it is to navigate, uh. And Andy's like, well, her point was specifically that you're putting something out about her husband and That's not cool. She goes, but I said not if it is believable. Oh, gosh, I wouldn't just like what she said was I don't believe it
Starting point is 01:09:55 But in the same breath she said it makes me think that if the plastic surgery is overcompensate for the rumor and that's bullshit And it's rooted in misogyny. What type of woman are you to say a woman has to have surgery to keep a man? You had a whole tummy tuck. Did you keep Jamal? Now, I mean, she's right because like, it is misogyny to say you need to have surgery to keep a man, but I actually don't think that's what she's always saying.
Starting point is 01:10:16 She's always saying you need to have the surgery to keep the man. I think she was saying, like, did you have the surgery because you were feeling like on sexy or something like that? Like, I think that actually, if anything, I'm not, I'm not trying to be like a super just self-defender, but I think if anything, she's thinking, like, I hope you didn't get this surgery
Starting point is 01:10:34 because you were thinking that, you know? Well, I agree, and I, but I cheered with this Wendy line. I was like, yes, Wendy. It was a good one. Yeah, it was good. But also, then I thought, you know, Wendy, how is you, the way that you treated me Allsees and not totally misogynistic? Like you've done nothing but talk about how slutty she is and make fun of her
Starting point is 01:10:53 Surgery and her vagina everything else. So I don't know that you really have a more touchy leg to stand on, but that was very funny. I liked it. And you've also and she also supported Candace in a certain way by saying, well, Candace just sticks her landing with her shade and that's the problem. When Candace is going out there shaming Ashley for her post pregnancy body. And, and then it's, it's, you know, that stuff is, you know, pretty like obnoxious, right? Well, there's a lot of hypocrisy in a housewives show, you know, and I get that. And I almost respect the fact that Wendy and Candace are just like, okay, we're going to do this together.
Starting point is 01:11:28 We'll go in here together and just have each other's backs no matter what, because that's kind of what they're doing. And I think that's what leads to a lot of the hypocrisy. It's just like, okay, I'm going to be this team, no matter what happens today. But it does take away a lot of her credibility in these arguments, you know, because for Wendy, these should be easily winnable arguments.
Starting point is 01:11:47 And I feel like she's struggling a little bit because with how she's been treating me and stuff the whole season. But that said, love to see it. I think she's actually doing a pretty good job in that first chair. Well, I mean, Wendy is so smart. And I think she always eats them up
Starting point is 01:12:01 when she comes for them. I mean, I know people have issues with Wendy, but I think that like she is, I think she is really good with, I actually didn't think that she'd be able to before was rehearsed, and I think that she is, when people come for her, she does kind of like get them into shape.
Starting point is 01:12:17 So I think she's very rehearsed, but you know what, so we're movies. And I love those. So I mean, as long as the entertainment's good, I'm fine with it being for her. Hey, and you know, there are some people who were her star lines and they still can't land it. Okay. So yeah, love this show.
Starting point is 01:12:32 So good. I love getting into arguments over the stupid shit. No matter whether or not Jazelle was being like awful by mentioning a blog on TV. Like that's my favorite shit. So next week it looks like we the husbands are coming on. Next week we'll probably be like the fun and games episode and then it looks like at the end of it we finally at Nicki Minaj popping up. Should be good. We'll see everybody but we'll definitely be
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