Watch What Crappens - RHOP: They Cayman, They Saw, They Conquered

Episode Date: September 4, 2019

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If you want to watch on your TV or your phone, your tablet, whatever, you can find all that stuff over on Patreon. So do it at the point. So today, let's start with some real housewives of Patel Megman. Oh my God, this episode just had me cracking up left and right. So, so so good I was losing it and It's the penultimate I know I was so sad That's like my my least favorite thing is when you like hear that Well, you hear at the end of the episode especially if it's been a good episode next week on the season finale

I'm like no why I always feel like it's a dagger in the heart finale. I'm like, no, why? I always feel like it's a dagger in the heart. Maybe that's for you. Let's sing from Jesus because by the end of these seasons, okay, listen, I believe house wife seasons should be 12 episodes with 10 reunions. No, the reunions, I want to a two episode reunions only because, you know, the thing is this watching reunions is really fun, but I find that recapping that we can be so hard since we take so many notes and there's no like action It's just like it's just basically nothing but dialogue and it takes so long to write down the notes that like

But if there's ever like a third reunion installment by then I have just like become a desiccated leaf and I'm like I can't do it. It's so hard, it's so hard. Well, I titled this episode the one we talk about Michael's butt grabbing some more. So that's where I'm at with this season. I'm like really, oh great. Like, not gonna go for a pun, just saying. Yeah, but I'm grabbing.

Just a title of my notes. Here we go again. Some of my friends. You're not reasonable. You know what, you're not reasonable, but you are passionate. Thank you. Yeah. So the episode opens up with my favorite thing in the world, which is this low key, very lazy investigation to try to find Katie. So basically, it's where we were last week, but this time we actually get to see uh, Jizzel go over to Katie's hotel room where apparently they, I guess they just don't lock hotel

room doors in this Weston in the Cayman Islands because not only does Jizzel just walk into Katie's room later on, Karen's in her room and there's like a knock on her hotel door and she goes, oh come in and Jizzel just walks in. I'm like, is this just how it works? You just walk in? I think that they know that Jizzelle's just gonna trick the desk people anyway, because didn't she do that a couple years ago

where she got into someone's room and hid something in there, stole something. I think it was actually Real Housewives of Dallas. I think that was brandy and semi-adil. You're right, I know. It was real Housewives of Dallas. And by the way, Dallas is returning, we should tell people,

Dallas is returning this week. So on that's our Thursday recap now, Dallas. Also Dallas is coming back with really stupid lessons. Like it has a lesson that I just want to warn everybody not to listen to you. And that's at the end of the preview when Leanne's sitting down and she says, Leanne, Jail's not worth it. Of course, Jail's worth it. If you go to jail, which I have a few times,

I mean, not been in there, but been to visit. And when you go in there to visit, listen, nobody's like, I'm so sorry that I did this. They're like, this is worth it. It's not so bad. You know, they have cable in there now. There's a lot of stuff you can do. And they've got Batchyball, I think, like in my head.

It's worth it. Okay. I'm telling people it It's worth it. Okay. I mean, three meals, three meals a day for a compt. Yeah. Try paying LA rent for a couple of months and then tell me how not worth jail is. I'm actually a little concerned because bravo has been marketing Dallas this year as like the girls are back and it's like fun times fun times and if were me like the signature of Dallas is watching Leanne loser shit right and it

will meet all the promos should feature Leanne throwing an object in anger at someone okay so the fact that it's all like girl time girl time I'm like private why are you doing this why are you doing this show Jordy yeah yeah why are you doing that just give Leanne a Yeah, why are you doing that test? Just give Leanna baseball bat and tell her to put a red wig on the trash can. Even if it's just for the preview, and let us take this, she's taking a bat to someone, you know? Yeah, please, please.

So anyway, yeah, here we are in investigation, Jacelle. So the music's like, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. And Jacelle comes out on the beach. And she's like, this is not good. Yeah, she finds Ashley and Candace. And she's like, I came out here to see if Katie was here walking on the beach, you know, because she's a free spirit.

I'm like, I don't think walking on the beach at a beach resort is like really evidence of being a free spirit. You're on a beach vacation. Even how crazy she is when you take her to a beach she just wants to dip her toes in that surf what a free spirit. Is she swimming? She's out of her mind. And Candace is like well you know last night she did have a jacket on a scarf.

I'm like yeah didn't you think that was weird? Why did no one even think that was weird? That was weird. Well it was weird to be sitting in your even think that was weird? That was weird Well, it was weird to be sitting in your room in a jacket and scarf But it's also weird to be leaving in the jacket and the scarf. It's 9,000 degrees outside, okay? It was very witness protection. Yeah, so just a whips out her Veronica Mars tricks And she's like, I know what we can do. What? Let's see if she answers a phone

So they call her phone. And now they're all trying to figure out the mystery of she didn't check out. You guys, you don't have to check out anymore. You drop your key in a box. And also like the hotel is probably under like Bravo's reservation anyway. So they call, like she of course does not answer

her voice mail. So then just call his Robin. And tell his Robin that that Katie's missing and Robin has the most Robin response, which is like Take what you're eating that watermelon and watching Fox News Yeah, watch she was watching the Michael news And she's like well thisoing isn't that big. We would have seen her leave, right? Not if it was at nine. And you know what you guys are not going to get

a detective show. OK, that's just how this is. That's just the advice for this whole thing. Yeah, also, by the way, the resort is huge. We are looking at it on TV. It's on beach. OK, it's a resort. If it weren't a huge resort, you know what we call a hotel.

All right, so then Rob is on the phone. There's like a knock on the door. She's, oh, there's a knock at the door. Maybe it's Katie. Oh, hi, it's the housekeeper. The housekeeper's here. The housekeeper tells us, I've seen so much on social media regarding Katie and her kids

and who said I feel like just all said this but I wrote down Robin but somebody said that. Yeah. She's like if I didn't have my kids for even an hour I would lose it. I'm like, hi, you've been away from your kids for three days. I know what you mean, though. I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah. And then Ashley is basically like, well, maybe Robin, like, maybe Robin turned a bullbond in case head when she suggested that, maybe Katie was pregnant, you know? And like, I don't think that was, I don't think it was that a bullb turned on. I think that other things turned off basically, you know? Yeah.

She was just dumb with you hookers. Why can't anybody just believe that? Like somebody just got sick of being screened out for no reason for three days. And it was like fuck this. I'm leaving, you know? Yeah, exactly. So then Karen shows up on the beach and she's wearing this like, she's wearing like a black bathing suit, but she's wearing this like cover-up thing. That's like sheer, it's like black and sheer, but also very frilly. It looked like a sort of like, she looked like she's was wearing a giant wig,

but it was actually somehow her cover up. Yeah, was this the black lace pants? It was like this. Yeah, but it had like, it was like black lace. It was almost like a Bordeaux wall paper. Yes, but like, you should. Or I, as I call it, the guilty outfit because you dress is like that to find somebody You know she's like looks different. She looks too much. She's too much

So she looks guilty if this were a mystery murder dinner party. I'd be like Karen did it Okay, then she's acting guilty, right? So just I was like Karen Have you talked to KP and she's like no Have you talked to KP and she's like no Let me let me check my facts and she never Because you know how I just don't like You know I'm like the worst with texting hold on let me check my palm pilot to see if we got any messages She's like ripping off the facts. Well, now this is Roy saying, press the button on wall, cooked chicken, whatever.

Let's see, this first paper, it's just a lot of scrambled images. We don't know if there's more information because someone did an included cover page! Breacher facts etiquette! Breacher facts etiquette! Oh no, there's uh horses on the beach oh I see no I see you have a message for me hmm so they're like well we can't find a Katie and she's like well so she probably decided to leave it's like well yes Karen that's the point thank you Mrs. Landsbury yeah such as else like well you don't

just seem very shocked. Because you have murder. That's what I say. Yes. And Karen goes, well, you know, as I said, it felt like it was very clear that the conversation that we had on the patio at Robin's welcoming. It was inhumane! It was brutal!

How was that inhumane and brutal? Seriously, you were mean to me. How could you? So Karen tells us Ashley is obviously in hurt from what Michael's putting her through. She laughs out because Katie is defenseless and it's cruel. Medically, it's medically cruel. Such as I was like, whatever. Okay, I'm going gonna go search for Katie and, you can't say like, well, I'm gonna get some tea, I need tea, right?

And I'm like, okay, go get your tea, get your tea, Karen, I'm gonna go do a search. It's like, Karen, you're so obsessed with yourself, you don't realize this is not about you. Go on, get your old gray. It's like she's expecting to come across a dead body in the surf. I know. So then Juselle just starts like slowly walking through the sand. You know, it was like this very like, it was an

investigation that lacked any sort of urgency. It reminded it. And then she wants, then she runs into Robin, almost on Robin appears. And Robin is wearing this like Bedazzled one piece very busy like one piece bathing suit, but she's also wearing white cheerleasy Cover up pants so Robin is just like the strange Strange vision at this moment. So you look like a house that she's flipped It's like, okay, I know this is your first flip,

but that tile is not really going in that kitchen. Like, let's just face it. I know you liked it. Yeah, yeah. That's what she looks like. And then I'm like, at least give them a metal detector. Like, can we bring some sense of urgency to this? I was just gonna say, you know what it reminded me of,

it reminded me of being a kid, like, and my friends would come over. And you know, you're, you're, when you're a kid, you've got all this imaginations, you're like, let's go find the treasure. So you walk around the, the front yard of the backyard a little bit, and you walk a little bit in circles, and you make up rules as you go, wait, we can't, we can't go near the tree because that's what the bad guys are. So we have to go around the tree, like, yeah, and, and you know, you're just like walking from one part of the yard to the other and like creating a whole drama amongst you and your friends, but obviously you're just in your yard. That's what looked like watching you sell it, rob and walk around all

these sunbaters. I know. And they can't take it seriously for two seconds. Because one minute it's like, we are looking for girls. you look fabulous in your sparkles okay now we're looking for Kate we're looking for Deb Katie it was almost it was almost reminiscent of like a classic quad role-playing scheme you know where she's like all right I'm gonna be the interviewer or or actually there was the time when she's gonna be the investigator when she put on a trench coat you know that's sort of what this was like. Was that when she was investigating taxes? Never once she pretended to be a tax lady. She was put on a costume and like, unsurprised quads did not show up

with a giant magnifying glass and a trench coat and like one of those detective hats, you know? To promote the news using a married-to-medicine. So Robyn's idea is, it's like she's got shade in her idea. She goes, well, did we ask the front desk if they saw someone in a red bubble jacket and a scarf? Living the hotel? I have Jacob's number and just so it goes which phone is it?

You know, I didn't even pick that up. That's hilarious. That is hilarious. So Robin calls up Jacob and she goes, Hi Jacob, it's Robin. He's like, hey, how are you doing? I'm upset. Okay, well, I'm upset too. Well, we found the treasure chest, but we actually can't find the treasure maps But if we still needed if we find the treasures no Robin now you're doing the wrong sign kind of rope-to-playing right now, why? And also yeah, they need if you if you're worried that something has happened to Katie Why wouldn't you ask Jacob why he's upset?

Yeah, this is the biggest loose thread in this whole thing. Yeah. How mad are you? Are you in the Bahamas right now? Did you murder her? Like come on guys, am I the only person who watches murder shit? Yeah, by the way, isn't the came in islands like the most,

isn't that like the place, I know it's where you did your money but is not like the most like someone disappeared from island, right? I know, isn't that where from Ireland right? I don't know but when I went on our family cruise last Christmas and we went there they were like do not leave this tourist area so I don't know they made it seem like it was super major I just feel like every John Grisham book has a situation where someone disappears in the Cayman Islands and I said that base in the fact that I've only read two or three of those books

and it was 20 years ago, but still, the theory stands. Well, I think a lot of like Ronnie's mom type ladies disappear because all they do is walk into the tourist section and go, Pachooly weed, I'm going back on the boat. Ha ha ha. I feel like the little the tourist sale, that's all they sell, you know, it's like Bob Marley shirts.

Right. I feel like there just must be a camera crew from day line that just sits there and just waiting wait like like when they heard that Katie went missing, they're like, okay guys, we got another one. All right, let's suit up. Where's Callstone Phillips? We're doing an episode tomorrow, you know. And they're never a fan because they just look like Giselle searches like she walks one,

you know, half a block slowly in the sand So they call up Jacob and he's upset and yeah, they don't say why are you upset? I think they already have a guilty conscience because they're probably thinking oh he's upset Because he heard that we yelled at Katie and Katie told them and so he's like mad at us, you know So robberler whoops at two So so basically Jacob hasn't heard from Katie since midnight last night. So, you know, and the last thing that he heard is that she wasn't feeling well. Right. So then they go to the front desk. And so it

just goes, hello front desk, we need to file a missing person's report. She's like, also a friend has nearby. Yeah, two birds, one stone, not. Yeah, she's like, this is the friend desk. Okay, I don't know where you think you are, but we don't do that here. Oh my god, I don't think a person is missing if they've been missing for less than like six or six hours. And you don't do that if the friend does.

They're like, does the missing person need clean towels? Then go away They're like missing person's apartment. Okay. Well actually that happens a lot around here So go speak to Dorina over there. She's our missing person expert. Yeah, she's got a lay on so they're like they go Well actually Yeah, she's got a leg on. So they're like, they go, well, actually, you should speak to security because they've located her and Robyn goes, what? So they go over to security who's not going to die. By the way, they've now got the biggest lead that they have, a concrete lead, A.K.

She's been located. And they just sort of like, I'll eat stroll across the lobby, like, oh, well, let's go to this part of the investigation. It's just like, there's no like, oh my God, oh my God, they're just like, all right, we'll be we'll pivot and slowly walk across the lobby and maybe check ourselves out in the reflection in that earn. Yeah. And at first, they're gonna try and pass it off like security security, but it's a producer guy, you know, yeah label him production security and she's like y'all found Katie and he's like uh yeah we

found her where is she and she goes now uh this is real she just changed her flight back to her bags and said dooses and like like what are the yeah like they? Yeah, so basically he's like, yeah, we found her, she's at the airport. Like, what a shock. What a shock. Her room is empty. Her bags are not there. She's not the resort. So she's either at the airport or she decided to check into another hotel.

No, she's at the airport. Yeah, and all the little soaps are missing from the bathroom, you know? Like the tiny little shampoo thing. In the shape of swans. So then just like now, now she can go from being concerned to match. Like it is not responsible. It's not what a 40 year old does. I'm like, none of you ladies act the way anyone over 13 should act.

So we'll ask and which is like, this is not to what 40 year olds do. I'm like, they don't say deuces all the time either. Okay, it's like, deuces. So now the investigation continues to unfurl because in Wax Lynette, the producer. So Lynette comes strolling over. Also, not a lot of urgency, but it makes sense because on her part,

she's like, yeah, I know exactly where she is. This is not a big deal. So they're like, so what's the deal with Katie and Lenekas? She's not feeling well. Medically or mentally? We don't know. I feel like whenever you have a long she's, I feel like that's gonna cover up right there right?

Yeah. You don't um, if you're not covering something up you say a normal she's like that's gonna cover up right there, right? Yeah, you don't you're not covering something up. You say a normal she's saying she's not feeling well, but when you have she's not feeling well something's up Yeah, cuz how do you say she went kuku put on winter clothes and tried skiing on the beach? Okay, like you can't say things like that so like Were you still meet insurance for this so so yeah, we had an issue with her She just kept on going up to all the guys and was or be like hey girl friend We had to be like no, it's not called the game in islands. It's the came in islands It just would not accept it and finally like she's gonna get beaten up working on just

She's just riding on the back of car. It's the slopes waving to people So then Karen who's got the upper hand more. It's like wow. She just drifts by way. She just Karen by the way just drifts into the scene like a pool float. You know when you're just like singing a pool and almost on there's like a giant inflatable duck in your face. You're like we're back from that's how Karen just enters the scene.

Yeah. So Karen just didn't let us in. Mmm. Floating away. To Karen, going back. Karen, I was about to sit around you. So, yeah, she's like, well, I wouldn't let us in on room. She stood right there in the doorway. Just like that.

Just like that. It was a lot of these. So Robin goes, well, I don't want anyone to think that they can't speak up in this group. And then Karen just says like insane angry pucker like, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm. I'm going to pucker-recresibly because I often feel like I can't speak. Pucker, pucker, pucker.

Mmm. That's what song this pucker is singing. A long time ago, we used to be friends and I... I haven't thought of you lately at all. I'm a co-e- over it, a million ways. Okay, no, okay, let's stop. No Dan Hillvond to shepherd songs. Can't we try just a little bit harder? Can't we try just a little bit?

Almost got to spinach that time. back up. It's murderous, she wrote. From the mystery no one solved. I like that I just went to like a random song from the 80s and you actually have like a theme behind your songs like that that actually pertains to what we're talking about but I'm like I'm just gonna sing a song that's in my head well maybe that'll be used one day for a murder show and by the time someone's listening to this in the future it'll oh wait no I have a song that's appropriate Mmm

Karen are you doing twin peaks? Look at Laura bomber. That's what I want to know Mmm I'm not sure if you're gonna get it. I'm not sure if you're gonna get it. I'm not sure if you're gonna get it. I'm not sure if you're gonna get it. I'm not sure if you're gonna get it. I'm not sure if you're gonna get it. I'm not sure if you're gonna get it. I'm not sure if you're gonna get it. I'm not sure if you're gonna get it.

I'm not sure if you're gonna get it. I'm not sure if you're gonna get it. I'm not sure if you're gonna get it. I'm not sure if you're gonna get it. I'm like. It's just like, who's Bob anyway? I like him. I want to go to the black lodge. Okay. So now it's that point in the vacation where they're like, you guys enough drama. Let's have fun. And I was like, I'm so bored. I'm not here for you to have fun fight with somebody. Yeah, so they all get into it, they all pound to a van to go on like a million expeditions

in one day. So they tell Ashley that they found Katie and then they are going to like transition into, they're going to be doing some horseback riding in the water. And she's like, I don't believe in abusing animals for pleasure instead of utility at which point I was like well um what about the kangaroo that you serve in your restaurant and then jazal goes and what about eating kangaroo? I'm advocating okay get over it lady. Abusing animals for the pleasure instead of you. Running horses abuse I'd never heard of that.

I don't know I think that basically Ashley is I think she's underestimating the strength of the horse okay I think it's maybe it's nice for the horses I don't know probably not. Yeah but I love that they're like yeah what about eating kangaroos and Candace because we're talking about eating kangaroos and stepping armadillos that no one's eating because he eats that like set out So then you stuffed armadillos. She's kidding right? No, they I don't think there's stuff to arm I mean, I don't think so I think that's I would assume that's more of a Texas thing or maybe even St. Louis because as we all know there's armadillos in St. Louis Yeah, well either way shut up canvas Okay, so that's the

worst place. Oh, though, we also, by the way, very importantly, we got to see a frantic chicken crossing the road. Like it's like, why the Christian, why the chicken crossed the street, crossed the road? We still don't know, but at least we got, at least we got to get a little closer to that mystery in this episode. The chicken's like, I found Katie. All of them in the chicken. Ah, out there. The chickens are running away. I'm like, I found Katie.

I don't want to go back to that dark place anymore, okay? It's just Colin. It's just Colin as the chicken. There's also the iguana, the iguana, which is our substitute deer. And so the iguana came up a few times in this episode which I appreciated. Trying to get cast. I got my job on this so the Guana just comes in on us to recover board. Is that upon? It's bad upon.

It's bad of one. So they're gonna go on these gigantic courses in the water bearback and just feels like bear back. We all know that Candice doesn't know anything about that. She's still making her husband wrap it up. Yeah let me see a flashback of Candice talking about having sexual crisps with a condom on. I don't know. Anyway, so then we then we they get onto these horses and Karen of course like, um, so again, I do not swim, so I'll need some special attention. And if I need to you're here Karen you can just say help you don't have to hum it I Help

My god, we're having a dad rock down need to call my dad by the way, I know it's great And so yeah, she's like listen here man candy Need some help on the talk so then Robin's like just tell your horses being you It smells like pink Because it's being robbing that's that's how it works Horses like starts to mate So then just tell she starts she gets a few feet on her horse and she's like I don't feel very I don't feel good. I don't feel good. I want I wanted to stop

I wanted to stop right now. I wanted to stop, I want it to stop. Right now, I want it to stop. Just like a cameraman to Michael, I want it to stop. I'm sorry, shadow. So she gets off and then it's just, oh, Ashley's like, you want to sit on me? You want to sit on the beach with me and be non-abusive to animals.

And then they keep cutting to all these birds. And every time they cut to a bird, the birds just like they're casting so much judgment about what's happening. Like you know the birds are all talking about this. Like did you see those women? Yep. So then we tell them where Katie is. Should we? No. So then they all start talking about what Monique is doing. Oh yeah. I wonder what Monique is doing said no one ever, but apparently this time.

Yeah, yeah. Just she's in order to tell with her children. That's what Monique is doing. She's on her peer, she's having a peer review. Get it. And her kids are bored, because they're being forced to fish and they're not catching anything.

And the sun goes, this is hard for me right now. I quit. And Chris is like, you have to be patient. Pants really didn't. And he's like, this is boring waiting. I feel like every time Chris speaks you just see like a school of fish jumping out of the water. We're just going belly up.

I know what will get them out. Although first the vibrations just like we're just going belly up. Oh, I know what will get them out Oh, first the vibrations just like pull rise like 10 fish. I know the fish just like her belly up So that's real exciting. Yeah, really pulling your weight over there Monique She got stuck you know she got pregnant. It's yeah It's it's what happens. I don't know. Be pregnant and yell at somebody. Like, why should the true? It's different from any other pregnant woman. My mother spent her entire pregnancy yelling at people, mostly me, through the stomach.

Do you guys stop taking the little bugger? Yeah. Monique, next time, if you have a solo scene, don't go fishing, walk into Starbucks and yell at someone. My mom would be like, stop humming murder themed songs and my stomach. Be a little bugger. My mom would be like stop humming murder theme songs and my So we go back to the women are on their horses and the horses are like walking in the ocean And they're pretty they're pretty deep in the ocean and one of the horses starts to hiss or something and they're like Why is that horse making that noise? Why making that noise at which point?

Clearly that noise triggers Karen it like it's a noise that she understands all too well She's like oh I don't know horse or something too. Okay. It's a pucker off Okay, good to me around I'm good I just love that the horses are on real house. So I have the Potomac for five minutes So they start fighting it's contagious I feel like those horses are like the real horses of Potomac for five minutes so they start fighting. It's contagious. I feel like those horses are like the real horse's a Potomac, right? Like they're just like unhorseworld, they are like their own reality TV. It's like, meh! Well today we decided to go

have some uh go go riding with some women on our backs and I thought it'd be a really good activity for us to hold bond. Meh. You didn't fight me to your house opening. You could've behaved better with the first one. Nate. Nate, I heard you put your husband's hoof on the camera, man. Nate. And the other horse is like, Nate, yeah. Nate, yeah.

Did we ever find out what happened to that other Mustang? So then, um, it's one of the worst of the least Yeah, did we ever find out what happened to that other Mustanger? So then, um, It's one more silly bad wig at the airport. Mmm, Karen's so proud of herself for doing this. And she's like, Look at Karen, nah, she tried new things. That's my girl, my girl showed up. Mad of you girl, nah.

I cannot wait to make fun of your scent! Turn it around! I just love to carry on my life where it's turned around! Don't forget it! Don't forget it! Turn it around! Oh my nerves are so short! Turn it around!

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It's an exciting one. Okay. Yeah, thanks man. Doing it all alone over here. By the way, I literally just saw right before we start recording that Anthony from the new Queer Eye has a cookbook coming out and I'm all alone over here. By the way, I literally just saw right before we started recording that Antony from the new Queer Eye has a cookbook coming out and I'm just like imagining like which cookbook would you get first? Antony's or Chris's?

I don't know, I haven't watched the new Queer Eye. I'm very offended for the old Queer Eyes. So I'm watching all of their, so I'm watching Ted on that top show. And I'm watching Get a Room room which they should bring back. Get a room. So which by the way, do you know that that's like the lowest braided bravo show there? It's bullshit. That was such a good show. It was it was like good and it was hilarious. I know. I'm offended that it was that low rate. It was the lowest of the year. Come on. Well, Binoino Bravo also aired it on Friday nights.

So shut up, Bravo. Why do you give? I know, but it was beaten by an anchor. I mean, come on. There's no excuse to that. I'm not getting one about the sale. And then America's fault. You know what that is, America's fault.

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Yeah. Okay, everybody, so let's go watch Jacelle and Robin eat stuff. So they're gonna go to the caves next. And the other girls are gonna go someplace to, oh, on the stuff. Well basically the producers were like, okay, let's fuck with these women.

Let's send half of them into a cave and half them onto a submarine. Let's just put them below like normal ground. Let's just, let's try to literally bury these women right now. So first we have Jazelle and Candace. They are at a submarine, but it's like not a real submarine. It's kind of like a Disneyland submarine where you

go down into a boat and then there's like windows glass bottle almost. And then there's like one statue and that's all they see. There's no fish or anything down there. It's like, uh, yeah, they seem like they see like a like a empty bottle of LaDom floating by. I was like is that one of the roller balls? It still doesn't fit anything in the ocean the lid atop But the best trolling of the year maybe is sending Karen Eugur into a cave with bats I mean that is just genius. That's great content right there Yeah, and you know bats respond to this sound content right there. Yeah, and you know, bats respond to this sound.

Which is basically all we hear in this scene from the ladies. It also doesn't help that, like, generally speaking, when Karen does do her little pucker voice, she's pretty much doing the Batman theme song. So down to the submarine, Candace sees one fish. She's like, whoa, look at that little fish. She starts to cry. It's like really enough. Really, really.

Oh, did you hear that? No, what was it? It's a huge emergency for five seconds now. It's over. I don't know. It's whatever's happening down the street is huge. Was it a thankfully, it's far enough from here that I only heard for one second. Was it a siren or was it like a siren?

It was like ten sirens at one time, flying at the speed of sound down the street. I feel like just like the police officers, police officers in West Hollywood are just bored sometimes because I swear to God. Every time I go to Joey's Cafe on Santa Monica, there's always like, inevitably, during the meal, six or seven police guards just go screeching through their sirens on. And then I look on Twitter because I need to know what's going on, you know, and there's never any report of anything happening. I'm just like, they just like to just go screaming through the neighborhood.

That's a West Hollywood, that's a West Hollywood queen truck for you. That's basically the equivalent of yes. Yeah. Yes, please. Anyway, I can't even make it to one little fish. Girl screaming in cave kiss of bats. I think Canvas and Jizzeller are having a, they start talking about Ashley and Michael and

they're just talking and they're not even paying attention to like anything noteworthy that might be outside the submarine. They just are missing this entire experience. Yeah. So she's like so what? How was yoga? And Candace's, uh, who is wrong with my writing today? My names are all incorrect. So she's like, well, I was just trying to let go of everything that happened. But, you know, I'm still really worried about how she's doing with Michael

because she truly have, I really, really care about how Ashley is doing. I really, really care about how Ashley is doing. Yeah, look, okay, this is new. Yeah, okay, this is new. Okay. Yeah, this is lies. Meanwhile, there's like a more a yield that's like trying to get into frame

and one of the windows, like, hey, I'm on TV and they're not even paying attention. So, meanwhile, there's an yield getting it's butt grabbed by another yield right out the window and no one gets it. It's basically like these women turn everything around and it into real housewives of Potomac. It's like all of nature. It's like this really strange horror movie. So meanwhile, Robin, Karen and Ashley are returning from the caves. After Karen's been terrified by the bats.

Oh look, there's been two of them up there! Bats everywhere! Oh, security camera's the bats! So, I mean, I've never had my fingers crossed for like a guano experience than that. So Robin and Karen and Ashley, they get into the van and they're heading back. They're talking about growth and personal growth. And Karen's talking about her, LaDom. And Robin keeps asking her all these questions.

And she keeps on saying it's under the guise of being happy for her, but I think she just wants to get Karen on record saying shit, so that way she can totally bust her later on when it inevitably does not come true. Totally, she's playing the Giselle role because Giselle's not there, so she's going after Karen's business. Yeah, she's like, so Karen, where do you see yourself in five years? What do you hope will be happen? She's like, well, I hope that Dom will be in a national chain in five years. Guess any

national jans are watching and guess them and scout away by those bats. And Robbins like so now right now what it is is a roller balls. That correct. Check out. Well well there's also a bigger size not just roller balls we have a bigger we have a bigger bottle that's in the shape of a roller ball that's smaller so yes yes and Robyn's like yeah I'm expecting a roller ball and then like somebody jumping out of a cake that's what I think this party's gonna be. Basically, it's gonna smell like crab legs on Friday nights, that ray makes. Oh, it's so good, we love making crab legs,

don't we stop riding those pots and pans, Ray? Stop, they're done. You know what I say? Is that birthing a child? Am I right? A little baby comes out, his head doesn't fit on properly. So you call Ali Baba, and you shine under shine under you get one that fits and you have a cake.

You know, give birth to a child and you accidentally laughed too hard. So you squeeze your thighs together, your child's head gets all strange and grows up to be Michael's that happened to you guys. So they go to dinner and they decide to all check on and check in on Monique. So they call Monique and Monique's like the first thing she says is where's Katie? What did you guys do to Katie? I don't know. By the way, we should mention that at dinner Robin orders something called

Rasta Pasta, which is of course Robin gets the Rasta pasta. Yeah, I thought that's the only person that orders that is Robin. All of the Rasta pasta, please. Yeah, I thought that's that's the only person the orders that is Robin. All of the roster pasta, please. Yeah. So when she asked where Katie is, Karen's lip purse was my favorite thing. It just kept going. They were the those lip purses were so big, they were like going down and below her chin and wrapping around and almost touching her neck. Yeah, she was like crocheting something on the inside of her mouth with those lips. She was doing that thing.

Like, she was basically tying knots in Cherry Stems, like five of them at once. Oh, so how people do that, but whatever. So then, I'll show you, really? I guess what you're doing. Yeah guess what yeah learned at the bowling alley girl The little smack section was there had a little window to the bar and Ed who was like this huge white trash guy and it's too white track I shouldn't say white trash. What am I chef?

Trashy how could you say that so you got to take the white out of it? You got to take the white out of it White out of it. Okay, but there were very not. I see now diesel light trash. There were no use trash. But anyway, they're a country. Some people are country and they're the best people in the world. Some people garsh are red neck white trash. I should know better. Bowling alley people taught me how to do it.

Guys, okay? That's your BAPs Baps wait Different movie So do you what you like clamp down with one end with your teeth and then oh you can't you can't explain it like that I have to show you with our tongues. Yeah, I just understand how you get the leverage to do it, but whatever So yeah, Monique's they tell Monique that basically, yeah, Karen is, I'm sorry, Katie is gone. And Monique's like, well, you ran Katie right out of the cave in the island, didn't you? And Ashley goes, she's grown, she's grown.

And then yeah, they show Karen. And they cut her doing, not only doing the pucker, but she's like sipping something angrily out of a tiny, tiny mug. I was like, what is that teeny tiny mug? Is it like a tiny mug of beer? Although later on, when they got their fireball shots, I realized that that's what they were doing their shots out of, but at that moment out of context, it was just like the most appropriate way, the only way to make a carrying pucker look even more pucker-ish. It's like you give her a teeny tiny glass, the teeny tiny handle that you hold with your finger and thumb.

Yeah, she's only comfortable enough to drink something out of something she can purse her lips in. Like I wish at that point she had a tiny top hat that just like fit on the corner of her head, like a little thing. And she's like, mm, maybe even like a little flower on her, like a boonier or something. That just really... It like squirts you if you squeeze it. But just turn her into a boonier or something. That's just really like squirt to you a few

squeeze it. Let's just turn her into a 1920s tramp, right? Like Charlie Chaplin, right? And just... Mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, yeah, do you want a flower? Do you want a flower? Free flower? Well, five cents with this flower. Okay, oh, but he didn't realize that my flower was attached to a string. Pointed up lower back. Conned by Karen. So they hang up on Monique and then to Succus. Well, speaking of Katie, yeah, I did not like earlier when you blamed, uh, when you blamed, wait, did she say she said you blamed Ashley what she was gone. Oh, she's talking Karen.

So it was a curious thing. All I heard was Katie's pain. It was all over the way down. What's the weather like today? Katie's pain. And she said, but you saw last night, she had a puffy coat and a scarf and you said, nothing, gah! Like at least say something about how weird it looked at the very least, dah!

Yeah, she said, by not calling her out for wearing a puffy jacket and a scarf, you were enabling her. What? What does that mean? I know, exactly. I don't think that she was enabling her, but I do think that she was failing as a human being to not be like, um, Katie's wearing a puffy coat in the scarf. And she says, what she did was reckless, and Katie's like, um, I mean, Ashley's like,

well, I take responsibility for letting her bait me, which of course is my favorite kind of apology. Didn't realize how fragile she was. If I had realized how much of a bitch, what a monster she would have been, I never would have let her bait me. And Karen says- Well, you know, she's a quiet storm. Hmm. She's extremely intelligent.

She's a brilliant woman. Hmm. Well, let's face it, the government's using it. Get into the foreign national set. Mmm. Mmm. She's basically a superwoman. She can run a two-minute mile. Mmm.

Mashes like, uh, this talk is making me tired. So can we just stop? Please. Please, stop. Let's do shots. Yeah, because the waiter's right there. He goes, oh, so you need shots then. They're like, oh. So then they start doing fireball shots. And, you know, foreshadowing. Yeah, of course it doesn't.

So then Karen starts telling some anniversary story for no reason. Yeah. Oh, you weren't there. You weren't there. And you weren't there. But let me tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something.

I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you something. Yeah, of course it doesn't So then Karen starts telling some anniversary story for no reason Yeah, you weren't there you weren't there and you weren't there, but let me tell you something am I 20th Ray he basically attacked my tongue as if it were the pots on crab night Yeah

And then oh she was talking about their vowel renewal things remember when when they had, she had that like really awkward Indian party. Indian theme party. Where's the Indian theme? I just remember they were wearing big rows. I thought they had like, well, you know what, it may have just been sort of like a, like a really ignorant sort of like, like little Indian Arabian

Little bit of everything mix, you know, I think it makes and match of some cultures in a typical way I remember it was super awkward, but we were there. I mean on TV Because it was also wasn't the housewarming for the Virginia the great falls Virginia house Yes, when nobody believed that they really lived there and so the whole part of It was also wasn't the house running for the Virginia, the great falls Virginia house. Yes. When nobody believed that they really lived there. And so the whole part of their life. Oh, well, we can't go into that room because no one lives there. And there's no furniture in this room because no one lives here.

So then they showed them making out and I was like, Oh my God. And then someone's like, that tongue went right down your throat. She goes, No, no, it didn't go down my throat, because I know how to control a tongue. No, like how do you control a tongue? And then she curls up her tongue, but turns her tongue into like a canole, and then she starts slithering it. She's like, like, it's going in and out,

and you know all the iguanas we're watching, we're like, that bitch does not know what she's doing, okay? Like, let us do that, okay, we're iguanas. I know, and iguana just beheads itself somehow. I will not sit there. There's somewhere there's an iguana that just put on a puppy coat in the scarf and headed to the airport. And then they keep talking about it and they're like, no, show us what you mean.

And then says he starts showing them in the most disgusting way out there. She's stuck her finger in her mouth and then of course the producer is put in slow-mo and added sexy music and I was just basically her sucking on her own finger. Oh yeah. Oh no, no more. And then the waiter comes out with more shots. He's like, well it's a full moon and there's a lady fullating comes out with more shots. He's like, well, that's a full moon, and there's a lady, a lady, her finger, so more shots. So they get back to the hotel, and they're all wasted.

And Robin's like, we're all so late, the dormant's not even out here. So Karen's like, oh, look at me, out the name of the door, like this. This door's not gonna fetch kiss me. Look how I'm gonna deal with it. Mmm. Mmm. Karen, stop kissing the door. By the the door men were not like off duty, they just were hiding at that point.

They heard that you guys were coming back, they just dove into the bushes. I know every shop in town, shut their metal fronts. Yeah. Like news travels fast out there. Yeah. So then, as she was being carrying and having so much fun with you tonight. So then carrot poor Karen four seasons in she still doesn't really understand how production works

or microphones or cameras. She's like, all right, I should say this because we're clearly off camera Those camera men who are behind us. They are obviously filming the Trappitine floors right now and Those camera men who were behind us, they are obviously filming the Trav18 floors right now and this microphone clearly is not on because I said testing 1, 2, 3 and no one's anything in response so now that we are in total privacy and off camera and not in any danger of being recorded, I need you to hear me out. Not a hurt has gone on and I do hold on. Yeah, she's like, well I have have opinions. And I need my opinions to be vindicated. Dismissed?

Is not vindicated. Charges were dismissed, but that is not vindicated. I'm not like, oh no. And Robbins, guys, they've already complained about Karen fighting with people in the sloppy. We've got to get out of the sloppy. As she goes, do you understand how any of this works? I'm like, are you talking about the legal system

or you're talking about how you are actually on camera right now? Because it's like this, I mean, remember, there was the, when they went to permuta, and Karen talked shit about everyone, and she was on camera. And I feel like it was like, we like, once or twice a season, she just says shit. It just gets caught. Yep. But then she just doubles shit that just gets caught. Yep.

But then she just doubles down. So then they get to the room and ask you say, I thought we were having a good time and then she rehashes Michael like she said she wants vindication. So well, I don't want to be taken for only with you. When people ask what happened with Michael, I need vindication. Because of what I went through. I have personal feelings about this. But I can't stop our growth.

I can't stop our growth. It's like, but it will stop our growth. Well, I do need them. I want, okay, here's what I need. Vindication, growth, roller balls. That's all. And licent bottles. Mm-hmm.

And so she just, listen, I am Karen Hugg huger. She's I don't care who you are She is my concern is with you not with Michael. It's with you. I love you your husband's a jailbird But I love you. Yeah, she's like and as she's like But he has been vindicated yourself like in sideways Karen. That's why you have no real friends She's okay. She goes cut she goes Ashley, I am not Katie step back Step back it's like I said to the host the oceans today. I said back And then Karen goes my concern has always been with you and just so goes we know that Karen She's no, no, no, you be quiet

This is nothing to do with you. Katie is sad but you are broken. So then they're fighting over this thing again and she's saying okay maybe I'm not reasonable at this moment but your husband went on TV. He went on TV to do all the stupid interviews that you guys did which was so stupid of you to do, and he said that there was contact, and I'm sorry, but contact without consent is... ...quash dada boi. And I'd ask his eyes, or just like, bulging, because right before that, Ashley goes, like, Karen, you're frustrating the fuck out of me right now, because you were not being reasonable,

and Karen goes, oh, I may not be reasonable at this moment but I'm extremely passionate and extremely logical I'm like how could you how could you say you're not reasonable but you're logical which is anyway I love it yeah and said then they start talking about this interview that they did which is true like then said suddenly he goes in this interview and he's like well I touched him, but it was an accident or something right yeah, and then Candice is basically like Why would the camera man say don't do that if it was just an accident like why would he do that and There's like basically saying that like she says there's a question mark lingering over his innocent, you know

So as she's just losing her she's losing her mind she's like how dare you fucking decide to see that shit and can't go sub-buck sub-buck sub-buck she has her hand out you know trying to get it goes Mmm Beated Beated Oh god separate the women and actually it's Candace who winds up consoling Ashi of all people that was the strangest part of this for me Yeah, they've been friends for a day now so it's solid again.. Yeah. So so Robin's like all of you beat it get out of my Sweet. Yeah, and into my car. Oh wait, that's the wrong song. Good up. Karen. Here's one So so Karen's walking. She's like, I like Ashley. I do I separate Michael and Ashley, you know Michael It's a pervert and Ashley's the woman of support, and that's all.

Yep, and so then the next morning, Quasal, and Karen goes... And then Aguana, by the way, I wrote down Aguana. I said, the Aguana. This time the Aguana, I think if I remember correctly, the Aguana had like found a like, shez lounge to hide under. I was like, good thinking, good thinking. Yeah, so Karen's like, well, mmm, what are you there for what triggerter?

Mmm, we there, we there for what triggerter. And just so goes, who triggerter? Or I would there when you triggerter. Yeah, I like my character. Like Karen, Karen acting as if Ashley just got triggered out of nowhere. I'm like it's because you were having a great time and you had a no where. What's her talk about Michael? Basically implying he was so guilty, right? It's like well we came back and we had a good moment and I said I can not move forward. back and we had a good moment and I said I can't move forward. Oh, with the white elephant in the room.

Have we made it to season without saying white elephant? I'm gonna be- By the way, the elephant of the room. Well, you have to do is you have to drop the- the white out of it, okay? You have to drop the white out of it. Just stop saying white elephant. Well, I just- Can you say elephant?

Well, you know, it's really hard for a Bravo star to just take one elephant metaphor. So between pink elephants, the pink elephant metaphor, the white elephant game, and the elephant in the room, you're bound to get a mix of both at any given moment. Like, we have to discuss the pink elephant in the room or the white elephant, but like, they just can't say elephant in the room anymore. But now Karen's huge thing that she's not going to let go is, he needs to be vindicated for me to be okay with this. Well what does that mean? Like in this case for him to be vindicated the guy would actually have to come out and say he did nothing. I totally lied. You know, but you're never going to get that. Yeah, you're never going

to. So it's you're just going to like spiral down a path of. Yeah. So then just all tries to be the wise one again, but she always fucks it up at the end, which is why she's just out, you know. So she's like, in the words of you, Karen Ashley is grieving and the problem that her dad wants nothing to do with her and Michael's penis issues. Well, I'm not penis issues, but but grabbing issues. Yeah, well, because, you know, because Jacelle's like, you know, because Karen says, you know, well, she exploded. And that's when I got loud when she exploded. And Jacelle says, you know, but we've all talked

to Ashley about Michael and she doesn't explode. She only explodes with you. And I think it's because you come at her like, you need me, need me, boo, boo, or whatever. And J and just out goes aren't you supposed to be the mama bear and Karen goes well You know I try oh, oh, it's a children are teachable on teachable children on teachable like Pat horses and other things So then we get massage day. Yeah. And wave-frying, water toys and all that good stuff.

And Ashley goes up to Karen on the beach because she's like, I listen, I cannot have this lady screaming assault every day. You know, so she goes up to her and she's like, I'm willing to have a discussion and clear me air. And then Karen just repeats all this shit again. Yeah, but she again tries to act like she, she, she, she, she the same things like, well, I'm team Ashley. This is a support of you.

No, it's not. No, it's not. So yeah, so I mean, I mean, the thing is that what we have and said is that one of the reasons why this affects Karen a bit is because she is a rape survivor. So, you know, the idea of like a personal bound, personal boundaries being violated is obviously something that triggers her a bit more. So she, you know, so she starts saying, you know, that out of a thousand rapes, there are only six convictions and you double that number for the victims that are silent, etc. Which actually is not really... She's like, okay, but isn't...

Like, he's been cleared in the court of law, so in the court of Karen, is he not clear? Which I just love the idea of the court of Karen. Like, that's like my favorite kind of court. Dong dong. Mm. Mm. the court of caron like that's like my favorite kind of court don't uh... objection is what i find in jazel

yeah i mean i think the biggest problem with this argument is a michael is not convicted of rate he's not this isn't about rate this is about as i mean as all because he grabbed somebody's butt, but it's I think that I think the issue is the issue is that basically Karen feels like he got he got away with it and He wasn't he there was no justice and it wasn't and it wasn't cool and then he's acting like he's the victim on TV and talking about my Businesses and my deals that were affected with business deals gone my Roy and I think that's the crux of it and it frustrates her and I think that's actually understandable But yeah, I mean I do too, but at what point you just gonna fucking let somebody live their life

You know what I mean like I don't know I think that they've gone after him this entire fucking season for it. And then Karen keeps pretending that she's okay with it. And then she comes after him again. Then she pretends he's okay with it. And she comes after her again. Whereas Roy's, Roy's tax shit and all the shady shits that he was doing, she went fucking crazy about it. And that was was true and that was provably true. Yeah I know that's a little unfair that she's basically calling Michael a rapist. Yeah, I mean I understand her frustration, but I also I was gonna say that to and I forgot to write that down that when I was watching it

I was like, you know Karen really didn't did not like it when people were Confronting her with allegations that that of what Rey was up to with his taxes. It doesn't necessarily make... I mean, it's two different situations, and I actually still... I understand her frustration a little bit more in this situation because it's basically like, girl, you were married to this guy who was doing this shit. You should be aware of this, unless that's their arrangement, which is then fine, but it's not fine to like violate someone's personal

space by cropping them. But like, I understand Karen's situation. I also think though time and place, and I think like last night, you guys were having such a fun time, and then like boom, you just decided to drop that in the lobby of the hotel, Karen. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

But it's also timing, because then Karen got mad at her again at that Hodeunk farm thing or whatever, for whatever they were fighting for. And so Karen's just bringing, you know, it's like what she's bringing up isn't wrong. It's that she's obviously using it to come for Ashley. But then again, Ashley does things that like I can imagine

would get right under my skin too, because Ashley is a poster and she is hypocritical too and so I understand Karen going like off the rails which is why by the way which is why this show is really at the moment the one that seems to be closest to real house of New York because you can both be like angry at someone and support them at the same time and enjoy watching them just attack each other savagely. Yeah, pretty much. So this ends here and being like, well, I'm apologizing to you, not to Michael, okay, hugs.

Yeah, well, she also, but not before just like, totally kind of like tearing Ashley down, again, under the guys of understanding her, she's like, well, I want, you know, I know you went to visit your father recently and it did not work out well because he doesn't love you and I know you've had your past parental issues and that did not work out well and try and have a baby and, oh, disaster there too, and oh my goodness, you're hair, I mean, look at your hair today, I mean, oh, you know, I know it's hard for you, Ashley. And Ashley's like, yeah, but you have to take responsibility care. I apologize. It's just, okay, oh, I'm apologizing to you. To you. We both do. So now

we're just sort of some flirtative activity, Robin FaceTime's one who looks annoyingly hot and the FaceTime. And he's like, yeah, it's cold out here by. So then, Ashley starts talking about how all day long her boobs have been hurting and she's been tired and she's starting to think that like maybe she might be pregnant. Also she's a period. Right. Improving her.

Right. Yeah, her boobs, sorry. So they're going on a sports, I mean, they're going on a sports i mean they're going on a red sail sports to go on a sunset cruise which means they all have to dress like sailors for whatever reason and robins like wasn't too so much fun we both really enjoyed each other and Karen gets we've all grown we've all. Much like the dog fragrance will in five years when I picked up by Lord Anteila. So, um, me, well, by the way, after talking to us about thinking that she might be pregnant and, um, her boobs hurt and, uh, she missed her period, we then see a shot of Ashley drinking a red stripe.

I was like, hmm, okay. Yeah. That's so this show. Yes. So that I also Robin jumps in even though there might be sharks. The sharks. And then we get a weird close-up on shoes that lasted a really long time. What was that about? I think as well because Ashley was talking and so Ashley was sort of silhouetted in the background, but there was shoes in the foreground. So I think it was like an RC shot. They were just trying to be RC. I don't know. It didn't. I was like, we'll just go with it. The lighting's nice. So then we're back and we're back to town and Ashley is

talking to herself doing yoga. She's going, oh my god. Are you causing problems? Are you over thinking it? Is this real? Or is it not real? What are we doing? So she does yoga and pizza on a stick Yeah, we got to listen to that being which was really pleasant Yeah, as always. Thanks Bravo. Thanks for that. So we've had horse pee and Ashley pee in the set so thanks and So then she has her pregnancy test and she pulls it out and It's like a cliffhanger, but you know since we know that since since she has her pregnancy test and she pulls it out. And it's like a cliffhanger, but since she has had a spread with her new baby in People magazine a few weeks ago,

we obviously know how this is. And plus also for the past four weeks, four or five weeks, we've had a new interview, like a base, a clearly like pregnant interview look freshly without weird wig, et cetera. So we know how this is gonna go. But in a good way, in a good way, in a good way. Yeah.

So that brings us to the end of real housewives of Potomac everybody. Yeah, that's it. Funny episode, funny, funny episode. Yeah, that's super fun. Yeah, that's super fun. We'll be back late this afternoon with our below deck med recaps to just stay tuned.

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