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Episode Date: December 21, 2021

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Does it ever really end? It's sort of alive in me at all times. Yeah, so for technically. That's over, but Christmas season's about to star everything. You know, lots of holidays, OK? So we're getting ready for that, but we're also getting ready for 2022, because guess what?

We're back on the road, OK? We're starting in New York City, January 27th for the Golden Annual Crapi, the annual Golden Crapi Awards. So come to that. That's going to be a really fun show. Then after that, we're going to New Jersey, then Boston, that same weekend. Tons of shows, 21 cities. So go check, watch at Crappens.com for ticket links and get those join us there. That's going to be really fun. If only Cron doesn't have us over. Okay. And we'll figure this cross.

But we're taking all the safety precautions, by the way, at our shows. So that's that's also something that's reassuring to know about because you know me, you know, me got to take out take safety precautions, even if there's just a walk to another room. Yeah. You'll you've had your mask on during a video meeting, okay? So, oh, this was even, this is way before coronavirus, I just take sage repercussions in general. I'm like, well, time to go to the kitchen,

better zip up that hazmat suit, because you never know. No, you really never do. I'm playing, find this smell in my house right now. It's not like dead smell, it's just like must eat like there's something. I don't know if it's in the sink. I don't know if it's the fridge. What?

I'm not gonna get down. But then you get used to whatever this smell in your house is. So I have to walk outside and then smell the outside for a while and then walk back in. So it's like a lot of inout and sniffing. So I got. And then also tonight is take a seat. That's our show every Monday night.

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And the Brian Moilin thing was for his podcast, 12 Gaze of Christmas, but we are going to repost it on Mars. Okay. Because you know what? That's what this gay does for Christmas. It's a holiday. It's a holiday. Also, a special announcement that has nothing to do with trying to sell you guys anything.

I got Botox, okay? Let me tell you how it headed. Let me tell you how thick it had. I didn't even work. Look. What do you mean tell you how thick had it. I didn't even work. Look, look, all I got it was here in this. We're on crap and it's on demand today. It's why I'm telling you. It's right here.

I just got it right here on this middle anger line, you know? But look, it's still, I mean, what the hell? I'm gonna need like an elephant shot to get to kill these this big ass face. Well, I think it looks smooth and luscious, Ronnie. I think you look wonderful. Absolutely wonderful. It moves, man.

Okay, it's not so good to feel. I think kill it, just kill the muscle. And I walked in there. And everybody in there looked like a real house. So I had these crazy huge lips. And the lady said, well, what do you want me to do? And I said, literally everything. I said, I want to be like on bots,

or you just come out with a magic marker and you just mark it, mark me up and down. Okay? Start up my head, go to my toes, suck it out, lift it, cut, lift me up by my back skin and just cut everything. That's what I want you to do. And she's like, oh, well, you just signed up for Botox. So I mean Botox wise.

So I was like, well, just, just this part then. And she's like, well, how can you just said everything, but you only want that one line? I was like, listen, there's not much I can do with my face. It's the rest of me. Okay, I'm stuck with my face. I'm stuck with my face and my head. I've accepted it. Do the rest of me. So I'm going to start to go find me to just get it all sucked out telling. Just a big LIFO moment. By the way, Steve LIFO and Botox, we should also mention that tomorrow we're recapping the real househouse of Miami Episode One. That's new on our schedule.

So if you haven't watched it yet, that's your homework for tomorrow, everyone. That's it. Okay, well, let's get into this nonsense. Babe. Oh my God. This was a beautiful nonsense. It really was.

It was an hour episode. I don't know if there's an episode next week. Maybe that's why this one was two hours. So was it two full hours? Oh my gosh. Well, so yeah, it was two hours. It was two full hours on the old schedule there. Well, she's pretty insane.

That's crazy. So maybe this is two episodes. We don't even know yet. We don't even know. We're gonna see. We're gonna see. We'll be talking about it. So far, we've already got at least one episodes of pre-tog going so. On the next episode, we actually start the recap.

I'm just in that kind of mood today. It's, it's almost Christmas. I mean, this is what, this is the week to get everything done. So that's where my brain. It's also here. My brain is also here, but I'm just like, well, vacation, let time. Let's do whatever the hell we want to be in. Listen, I saw West Side Story last week, and I've just been like snap in my fingers ever since that's where my brain is at. I'll just start snapping during this recap. I'll be like, well, songs, you snap, like a white guy even when there's no music going on. It's not weird. I'm on my one and three is weirdly enough.

when there's no music going on. It's not weird. I'm on my one and three, it's weirdly enough. Okay, so I'm not here to convince Lisa. I'm innocent or a good person. That's previously Jen. So here we are, we're in Pox City and it's pretty much house. Yeah, we're at Meredith's house and she's like,

well, this is starting to look pretty and because her assistant is in the kitchen, Yeah, we're at Meredith's house and she's like, well, this is starting to want to come. Brammy. Cause her assistant is in the kitchen, like sort of passive aggressive, not passive aggressively, but sort of territory-arranging flowers. He's kind of like pulling flowers and putting them in vases in a way that's like,

this is my sink area. And if any other gay tries to come into Meredith's marks house beyond Brooks, I will slice him. Okay, I earned this spot. Yeah, and he's doing like cucumber juice heads, stuff like that. And then Brooks comes in. He's like, mom, I need to finish this design.

So I'm wearing my sunglasses inside in the kitchen. So, you want to look at it? She's like, oh, like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, So we see his design and we get an answer to our question earlier in the season when we saw Seth wearing a blazer with Brooks marks just on a ribbon hanging off a button across his chest. Yeah, yes, he has Taken a knock off H&M blazer and he has just added a Brooks mark ribbon The button. Yeah, across and he's strong. There's a cross lapel to lapel. It was almost like a tight walker. It was, it was like that

documentary about the guy who walked the tires from the twin towers. It was like that, except on a lapel. And so Mara says, Oh, my God. She's like, yeah, it's a blazer with my classic side tape across it. I'm like classic. It's a year old, your whole thing. Well, that's a lot when you're 20, you know, that's true But that kid is as full of himself as I am Domino's I can't with this I also did you notice that he's wearing pants that are the same as the dress that Jen wears later in the episode Which I thought was an interesting. I did not notice that yeah He's like that's supposed to me a self-portrait of me and he's drawing himself

Basically like people with really good self-esteem draw themselves like perfectly square chin and face and I'm like, God, I would kill for that self-esteem. He does actually have a very square jaw to his credit. So he's like, yeah, and he's very cute. He's very cute, but I feel like people, like normal people, even if you're like really hot, you draw yourself maybe not as hot. I don't know. I think there's some people in the middle of the trip. I think it's so fortunate.

It was just like, I'm gonna make myself as hot. You know that Van Gogh was like 60 pounds heavier. He's like, this is like my goal self-portrait, minus the earth. So that's why you cut the ear off. He's like, I'm just three grams away. So He's like, yeah, it's myself part right? America's like wow, it looks just like you honey. Although I don't see the little baby bottle in the rattle Maybe we should draw that in there my little little chair

That's a drawing. I mean, who is this old lady? Been five minutes old. And he's like, where is this talent even coming from? So then Jenny comes over. It's very, it's, let me tell you something, Ronnie. It's shink. It's unique. And it's totally on flavor.

That's what it is. It's on flavor. So Jenny comes it is. It's on flavor. So Jenny comes over and Meredith offers a drink. I'm drinking cucumber and fused. We also have a berry infused drink. Those are not infused drinks. Now I don't want to, this is like going to be a 20 hour recap. So I'm warning you right now, everybody. Okay. That's not infused. That's cucumber juice with some vodka in it. Okay? That's not infused. And then the and then when Jenny comes over the assistant, the assistant immediately doesn't like her. The assistant has this look on his face. Well, I guess I'm arranging flowers for two women now, which someone had told me that

and he like throws that throws out a flower into the sink. Yeah. He's like, I guess I'm not getting credit for my infusions. So great, glad I came to work today. Fantastic. Yeah, exactly because he says the Brooks made them so merit because well, because of all the craziness that went on and down, I just want to have a nice easygoing girl's night with just three girls on a little baby over there making a self-portrait. And you know, just when you're just complaining about your husbands and how to make gross jokes all the time, I want you to move to Mississippi and Ohio at the same time, just girl stuff. So Jenny's like, are you going to eat with me because I feel lonely eating by myself?

Matt's the point. I'm going to watch you. And then Brooks is going to be watching you on a baby monitor from the other room, making the finger down his throat like he's going to vomit phrase. Oh, yeah, you're eating disgusting. Be back. Hey, Jenny, Jenny Brooks, real a picture of you. Here it is. She's like, um, is that me on a little surf board with a giant head? Yeah. He was really great at capturing her ass. So, Janne, tell me what's going on. Vail that was so much going on. I forgot to ask you how it's going with the fourth channel. She's like, oh, well, it's still going. I mean, he told me, okay,

I understand. You don't want to have more kids and aren't able to and a surrogor mom is out of the question, adoption out the question. So what about a sister wife? Wait, out of the blue, you asked you about a sister wife? Out of the blue. Well, how do you really dip your toes into that?

I know, you know. And like, why isn't the, why isn't it this reaction like, wait, what? What sort of question is that? But she's like, Oh, ain't I second, how did he prepare you for the rest of these? Did he take you to a lovely Italian tutorial? They need just have TLC on all the time. How did he wrap you? And I'm chatting. He's like, yeah, you know, he told me it's been legal since last year. And then Teddy, I know you love this part.

The dog was on the table just parking at them. Just parked. Teddy just gets up on that table and just starts parking. Like there's probably like another toilet that's overflowing and Teddy is like, roof, toilet. We can only find a funny dog. We never really had a conversation one way or another about whether he's trying to tell us anything. But we just like him on the table. It's the reboot of lassie. It's just sassy. Nobody ever listens to her.

Overlaces the dog. The kid just dies down the well. Timmy dead in the bottom of the well. Well, Brooks is the bottom of a well. Well, that's where he likes to do his work. So he's stopping interrupting. So Meredith is like, what? Tammy, what do you want? You want another wife to know? Jen is like, thanks for laughing at my painful situation that you didn't even care to address on the six hour drive to bail and we have nothing else to do. I so her reaction should have been just like these ladies reactions, which is fuck no, tell them fuck you. How about that? Yeah, exactly. So then we went away. I was crazy. I was writing these notes because oh, because Lisa shows up. She's, hi, are we ready to party?

because Lisa shows up. She's, hi, are we ready to party? And then the then Teddy runs up to Lisa and she's like, Hey, Teddy loves me. You don't have to like me. Teddy loves me enough for both of us. What's up, Chen? Me? Hi, Chen? Hey, you have to tell me I'm not going to be unoboxected. Sir Marath is like, when's he like that you can't bring them? I a little baby boy, Brooks made him Brooks alone made and if you happen to see another day boy in here, I'm telling you one thing. He did not make a cucumber in fusion.

Okay, stop scowling at me. That's the assistant. Is it a cucumber duck? And Jenny's like, oh, how spasnast. They're just making small talk and Lisa's like, oh my god, you know what the last three days have been and Sa Na Te. It's been crazy, it's been not. It's business is crazy. Never stop. Jenny, are you excited about your faux launch? I'm so excited for faux. It's like I can't wait girl even though you're totally mispronounced again.

I don't know how many times I have to say FOOT instead of FOOT. FOOT! I love FOOT! I love when Lisa thinks she's got a really good one in the diary room. She's like, wow, I'm so glad she's getting us together FOOT! Since I found Shep's, S Faw! She kind of like, moves her head like, God, nailed it. Now that one. I know how to pronounce it correctly, but the pun doesn't work that way, so I just have to come into saying

Faw outside of the diary room and so I can sell it. Okay, love that. I like the place in LA called 902 Winf a. Yeah. You know that lady is just like, that no one's gonna pronounce it right anyway. So just go with it. There's a lot of punny, for places in LA, like a lot. Of course, there's like,

for King, that's a classic. That's probably in many different cities. And there's like, I'm sure there's one that's called like, for you to get about it, you know, all that, all that good, for Punnage. So they start, Meredith is like, I'm sure there's one that's called like, Fogat about it, you know, all that, all that good funnage. So they start meridians is like, Oh, Janine, I'm just having a follow up conversation

from the dinghy of the smile with the flashlight. Yeah. Wow. So, so she tells, so he tells Lisa about the sister wife thing and she's saying how it really hurts. And Lisa is like, wow! By the way, right now what you all miss is that Ronnie got so into Meredith Marx

that his earphones just flew off his head. I almost hit a little baby, I hope that. Wond aware, Sassy is now to tell everyone about the national emergency. So, Lisa is like, just knowing you guys, I would never in a million years expect do we to contemplate that? He seems like so in love with you. Yeah, I like that.

It's like she doesn't feel bad enough that you're going to be like, wow, so we hate you then. Oh my god, I do expect that. Um, so she's like, yeah, it's the last thing I expected. And she says, John, that was for a sister, wife. John wouldn't need a sister, wife. Cause he bought a five drive. That's for sure. We go doing pop-ons. Huh? That's no sure. Do you hear that? Janney. So then Meredith is like, well, sister, wife,

or no sister, wife, I think you and even have a little fun to me. And if anyone ever looks at Meredith Marks, they say that's one fun lady. Okay. So come on, let's have fun. We're gonna sit at a table and have fun at the fun table, okay?

Yeah, so they start talking about sex and Meredith is like, me and you know, I'm gonna have sex with my family. So it's like, oh my God, God's. It's all in Icov. You can see everything that we've done and they're gonna do. It's not there.

And so Jenny does not dress up for her man man and they're like, Oh my God, you don't dress up for your man. Let's dress you up for your man. Sometimes I interact sublime Darrell Hamman pretend that Seth is Gordon Gaco from Wall Street and having recite nasty things to me. Oh, it's so hot. So they go try blonde wigs on Jenny. And the producer asked Meredith why she has a blonde wig on hand. And she goes, Why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why Let's this show for having too much content to indulge in this annoying real house

as a Beverly Hills quality scene right here. This is what we sit through in Beverly Hills. Like, let's put on a wig and let's prance around on the gram. So Jenny ultimately puts on the wig and she's like, damn, I look like a hooker. So then now we move to a different part of town where I have to say, I absolutely love this music This is up there for me with a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but totally it's very different

It's like very chill. I have not committed it to remember. I can't like sing it to you guys But if you haven't watched the show yet, just know that this music at the scene is music I like This is the non-on music I think in this one. Yeah, I love the music on the show. They also played my other favorite, the one that Meredith used when she walked, they used for Meredith when she was walking across the ice to get to the group and she was just walking really slowly. And they were playing that like Native American like,

boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I love that. Native American like Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I'm driving myself. Can you believe it? Oh, yeah, she's talking to Heather. She's like, oh my god I'm driving myself. It's an crazy by the way girl after I met you for lunch I called Lisa a few times and she sent me a text to make sure she had my number and then she sent another text about coffee And then finally four days later. I just got a text and I said I can meet it said I can meet today. I mean Yeah, basically yeah that Lisa was just ghosting Jen and then all of a sudden I know where it's like Okay, I can meet the producer said I need to meet with you because the producers want to get as much time with Jen as possible So how there's like so let me tell you so let me tell you you want real talk right now Okay, it's real talk with Heather time. Okay, ask her do you want to put our friendship in a different category right now? Or are you saying you don't consider me the friend you consider me a week ago.

Just try that Jen. Jen's like absolutely. So Jen tells us that she talked on the phone with Lisa for an average of 3.5 hours a day every day. That's a lot. Before this, which is crazy. So Lisa comes into the restaurant. What was the rest?

Oh, it's Carson kitchen. Carson kitchen. Cause I'm not even trying to be funny. I literally thought when the guy said, welcome to Carson kitchen. I thought he said welcome to prison kitchen. And I was like, wow, first of prison themed restaurant. And second of all, like to take Jen's shot there. I was like, that was so rude. I think I could not possibly be prison kitchen. But it was called Carson kitchen. Carson kitchen. It's like prison in your car, you know, stuck on the freeway or whatever. So Lisa walks in and she's like, I'm just made and got friends. So she goes and they keep that one up on Salt Lake City all the time.

Go somewhere where there's nobody. Do you have a reservation, man? I know. Oh, and I blessed this very sweet host slash waiter who kept on interrupting them, like with just a million offers, because, because Lisa sits down, she's like, hi, Jen, Shaw. How are you? She's like, I'm good. I'm good as I can be right now. And then I'll immediately the waiter's like, so can I get you starved anything? It's like, just some water. Okay. you want to start with some crispy chicken skins?

Okay, yeah, they'd be perfect for dipping. Okay, great, now I'll get out of your one. Maybe some ketchup or mustard in the future with that accompaniment that you would like as a selection. Okay, yeah, I'll just step over here. Yeah, this waiter is really working at. This waiter has been on here before. So, yeah, I'm not sure if it's like a production person

or what, but this waiter I recognize because of the hair and the eyes, you know, the eye makeup and stuff. I think they were in the one where they went drinking last year, remember, and Heather was explaining how shots are all watered down. Anyway, don't know why I remember it. But you know what, I'm on to you, Salt Lake City. Maybe it was just happy. I am on to you. Maybe it's just happy. Maybe it was just happy. I am onto you. Maybe it was just happy.

Maybe it's just happy. The chef, the talent chef, who pops up at every restaurant. He's like, oh, just a kid, dude. It's me, just happy with I makeup on. It's time for commercial. It's time for it. Celebrity beef, you never know if you're just gonna end up on TMZ or trending on Twitter or in court.

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You know, but I can ask them what I was some aspirin to him, that would be great. Trying to get off the Diet Cock. So she's like flicking her hair, like, which Lisa does whenever she's nervous. And Jen's like, well, I'll start. It's been really hard. Like, it's been hard on not just my family. That's the part that hurts me the most. You know what, just so you know, right?

You're innocent, right? Like, that's like proof that like, you know, you're innocent. I'm just gonna say, I'm gonna stick with the innocent and I hope you don't throw something at me. All I need right now is for my friends and love ones to be there for me. Okay, wait or not you, not you. But I will take that straw, thank you, because this whole thing is crazy. This whole experience has shown me who my real friends are. So Lisa is like, well, after a lot of conversation with John, he's like, no, I'm not. You'd be the first one to make a heart and be by our side.

And that's just like, not you. You need to go meet with John. And I thought about what he said. He's right. Taking this time to process doesn't make me a bad friend. It makes me a real friend and not a fake friend, not a faux friend. Get it, remember? And I think it's better for Jen because I'm in a better space. Have a conversation with her. I just do it to process. I'm like, lady, stop saying processing with Jen.

Like, that is part of what the trauma she just went through. I know. She could be served one any second now. She's been taken to processing, okay? So, this is like, she's going gonna be processed for a very long time. I just felt like a prisoner of my emotions. And Lisa tries that first of all, Jen with her big, oh my God, woe is me. Everybody needs to be nice. No, ma'am, you ripped off old people. So shame on you. Okay. And as far as innocent until proven guilty,

here's what I say. You weren are innocent until Hulu makes a really cheap documentary on you that I watch. And I have to say this also, this seems kind of amazing. I think that like Lisa Barlow, I still feel like she is an under appreciated housewife. appreciated housewife because here is Jen Shaw who has been arrested by a triple threat of agencies of Homeland Security and FBI and NYPD. She's arrested. She could be going to jail for 30 years. She who knows when we will see her, who knows when she will have her freedom again and Lisa comes into the scene ready to want up her about the fact that Jen didn't return her call. Like that is kind of some like next level house wifeery right there. Yes, she's gonna be the victim and she's playing it very well.

She's like, you know what? But like I'm sorry, but I had to process. I had to think back on some stuff because my feelings are like still heard on some stuff. And she's like um Lisa if you're feeling so hurt I don't know about it and she's like yeah but I haven't even talked to you much since my cut's pie that and then we see three weeks earlier at the clip of Lisa saying you know I see stuff on session 80 I like about that designer and stuff that you physically abuse and Jen's like that was just set up and you brought it up. Why would you bring it up? And then, so Lisa's like, I don't even know where I am with Jen.

So Jen's like, screw what happened before bail. I mean, come on. I mean, I think the super seeds and overrides, anything that happened before bail, okay? No, it does not. You don't get to be an asshole and then you're a bigger asshole than another part of your life.

So it's super seeds apart where you were an asshole before. I think that what you're trying to say is going to jail is not to get out of jail for free card, okay? You can apologize to the court, but you still have to apologize to, you know, the person you mistreated before you were sentenced. So Lisa goes, she was like, I know I've been your friend. I think and I'm'm gonna choke up right now because it feels like an effective technique. And when you came at me that hard at that thing,

I felt very broken by you. I couldn't sleep. I was like that whole night. I felt, I thought to be a mom, I thought to work, and I'm like emotionally wrecked, Jen. Yes, and she's trying to cry. So now we've got like a battle of the fake cries, because she's telling her,

Jen! Jen! But she always kind of looks like she's smiling. She's like, Jen! Yes. Jen, I can't wait! I've stopped to be a mother too. I've been stopped to wake up. And I used to have to get the diet coke out of its crib.

I'm feeling a little satisfied from the gun-offs. I guess very difficult. And then they start one-up in each other, because Jen's like, I am too. I'm so home. I so work. But I have an napkin. I have an napkin. I have an napkin on a fork. I have an napkin on a fork and a spoon.

And I spy a door. I spy a window. I spy a window. And Jen's like, I still have to go to work. I still have to reach my family. I mean those old ladies aren't going to rob themselves. And Lisa's like, yeah, but you know what? You having feelings is okay, but I was also having feelings. Does that make sense? Like, can you understand where I'm coming from? Okay. Thank you for the side of blue cheese. Can she also go to side of blue cheese? See, we're like blue cheese sides. Listen, I absolutely understand where you're coming from, but Lisa, that's at a side

when the shit implodes, like nothing else matters. This is the lowest point of my life. And you go silent. No, I don't go silent. I just make a very low frequency noise that goes like this. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I'm here today and I've been there for you for the last nine months minus four specific days more than anybody else has been there for you I have been there for you, but not too close because I'm not involved in any of this case And just like but wasn't even real. Oh my god Just shine up with me. Oh, you know, ah sometimes it's some popular my friend grip to be like John John John stand up for gentle. Oh my god if I'm popular to be friends with, then don't be friends with me. Which is not what she was saying obviously. And Lisa's like, no, no, that's the point. That's the point you may sing. Okay. You said to me, like at the catch for the shot, you said,

I know you take heat for being friends with me. And that's what I'm saying. I've never complained about it. I've never brought it up to you. But it's true. I've never complained about it. I've never brought it up to y'all, but it's true But that's how you made me feel just like John I've had you're fucking back Okay, John and like I've had it back even I've had your fucking back before we even friends. I've even knew you okay. I just any Lisa. I saw I said Are you gonna be Lisa Barlow because if you are I already have your back I don't even know I didn't understand the concepts of you I have your back yeah um and Lisa's like listen lady okay the point is I didn't call you back because my feelings were hurt

and so Jen's like this is weird so then Lisa's like no does it suck for Jen that she's going through this? 100, but does it minimize what she had that throughout? Like, no. So Jen is talking about how she reached out to everybody. And Heather, Heather was the first person who took my call. It was Heather, which she knows is just gonna really piss Lisa off, right?

Because Jen's like, well, Heather's my only real friend now. Heather proved to me. She's my only real friend. My coffee just arrived. I'm very excited, by the way. Speaking of real friends, coffee is here. I had your back all this time, coffee all this time. I'm so Jen's like, she me sound to me. Like, I know, you know, like, I'm trying to buy for my freedom and my life and my kids and my family. You stole from old people.

Okay? How many times I'm gonna need to say that today, but there will be no pity on this face for you, man. Mostly because I probably can't move half of it by now. I think this recap is started to kick in my talks. The Botox is like, I think we're needed right now. So, Jen, Lisa is like, I think we're needed right now. So, Jen, at least, at least, I was like, I hear you, and I understand. Okay, I hear it's just, well, then why wouldn't you just pick up the phones?

Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, Jen, John John John John John John John I was busy with Sassy Sassy had something important to tell me Okay, we had to go say, Brooks, turns out he was just in the shower

It was nothing special He was down and made well So far, I's meant to store. Okay. So, Jen's like, I expect my family and friends to be there. So she's, you know, cries and tries to get the audience, you know, feeling for her. No, I don't think it's working. And then she's, she goes,

you know, like, how do I even trust her going forward? How do you trust her? What that? I know that's what's so amazing. I just love these like these these mental gymnastics except these women are doing the way that they just pivot against each other It makes me feel like she's not going to be someone that I'm looking to call because this entire experience is proven to me that she's shown I mean actually it's like to be like a fair weather friend and a friend that's not gonna be there for me. It's like you became friends with her six months ago. I know she makes it sound like she, it's an honor for her to call you and wine about her fucking problems for three hours. Because you know that that's what you know that half of it is Jen, but I don't know, three hours with Lisa and Jen,

because you know Lisa is also like, well, you know, it's how I feel about that. It's not that bad. They probably don't even hear each other when they're on the phone. I imagine they're both talking the whole time. That's sad. Yeah, no, Lisa. You're not doing anyone a favor by letting them be the one that you dump all this shit on, Jen.

Yeah. So now we go over to Heather. She's carrying paintings into her living room. And there's a guy, right now I wrote down, there's a guy in her living room and there's a guy right now I wrote down. There's a guy in her living room that has blankets on her sofa and it turns out to be her brother Tyler and she's like, Hey, you want to play a game? And so they play, it looks like Domino's, but it's not Domino's. I don't, I don't remember what kind of game it is. I'm sure someone could play this with my Mima and I forget what it's called

the Rummy Cube. No, Rummy Cube. Yeah, Rummy Cube. It is Rummy Cube. Okay, that's what I thought it might be. I was like, I'm the board game person, but I'm at a loss. But it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy.

So Tyler is her older brother. He's not a creator. Didn't done. And he's sorry, Ronnie. I saw your little grimace like, why, Ben, why must you make aite that on our podcast? It was like an email popping up. I wasn't it you I'm So So

See I wanted to go coffee and now it's all going going to shit so he's been I was criticizing you. I was ignoring you I know I'm like yeah, well so Tyler has been living in Switzerland with his two boys for 15 years and Tyler wrote Heather a letter. And the reason why he wrote the letter is because it was serious because the letter opened up saying, for the gravitas of what I'm about to say, I'm using the letter form. I'm not writing back anybody who uses the word gravita either. Okay, I'm just saying that right.

I'm just warning anybody who wants to write me a damn letter. Okay, keep that to yourself. But also has Tyler been crying for 15 years in Germany because Tyler looks like he's just been sobbing and he has the saddest face and demeanor of anybody I've ever seen. He just walks around like, hmm, do you like these sheets on the back?

Hmm, do you want to play a game? Do you have my Roman cube? Did they shoot this? Six times? Like, did he have to start this scene over and just cry and cry and cry? Because he looks like a damn mess. He's been working in a wooden clock factory for 20 years and lost all the sense of joy. He's like the saddest cuckoo in the clock, I'm sorry. Cuckoo. Cuckas. Joy. He's like the saddest Kuku and the clock. Kuku.

Kukus. Um, he definitely looks like a character actor. I feel like he'd be a character actor in some like, with these God movie where he's like, yeah, you want to know what Johnny went? I'll tell you what Johnny went. I feel like he's, he's a character actor in a movie where he's guilty, you know, like crying like about to admit the murder that he was the murder or whatever.

So yeah, he wrote her some letter and she did not write him back. So this letter said, I just wanted you to know because of your decision to leave Mormonism, I've been inspired to make a similar choice. And she's like, well, I mean, this thing is, I just saw you last April and you were like for all intents and purposes, still a good Mormon. So like, what did this even happen? And he said, it happened last December, after hearing about what, you know, you would come to that conclusion. I said, I better look into this because I trust you, you know, and that's aspirational for me to get moving.

And so basically, Heather set a trend, okay, by leaving the church. Also Heather has also set a trend of just not getting back to people when they're in need. That's why this Jen storyline cracks me up, because everyone's like, oh wow, look at Heather, she's such a good person, getting back to Jen, really, because you never talked to your sister

that we saw it to you. And then your poor brother is like, I'm leaving Mormonism and you don't write it back, but you write the old lady, the old lady burglar back. Tyler's like, you didn't get back to me, although I did get a letter from Lisa Barlow. That was strange. We got back to the wrong people. It was like, freaky Friday. So Heather's like, when I decided to not practice Mormonism, I didn't tell a soul.

The last person I would have told was my brother. Like, you didn't tell a soul. You were on national television talking about it. What do you mean you didn't tell a soul? We all knew about it. He got, he watched the show. You heard or someone watched the show and told him. I was just like, I didn't tell a soul

Yeah, that's for the producer who then broadcast it to America and we had New Yorker articles written about us Yeah, I didn't tell a soul. I told a million souls So um, he's like Basically, she tells us about him that he Moved away with his wife and they were very, very, very Mormon. They even did, like, Zoom church in German for three hours with their kids. Like, they were, like, super into it. And she's like, so what happened?

Yeah, in church clothes. So, he's like, she says what happened? And he tells her, oh, you know, I just started like Googling stuff. And she's like, oh, you're not supposed to Google anything. That's like the first rule of Mormonism, which I just love thinking of those people and those covered wagons coming up, you know, up to Salt Lake City. Like, don't Google.

That's like, you know, there's like 11 commandments. And that's number one. Don't Google and welcome to Hawaii. Um, Tyler, Tyler was saying like, yeah, I saw I started looking him up. He was buried to a fortune-er-old. That's weird. They don't teach that at the church. And that's the problem.

And so she goes, do you feel duped? Because yeah, I do. And now I'm all over the place. I mean, we were taught to not to, you know, look up anything, because the look up anything would be like, it's like anything anti was the all over the place. I mean, we were taught not to look up anything because the look up anything would be like, it's like anything anti was the tools of the devil. And then they like put up a drawing of Joseph Smith

on screen, which I thought was like really funny that they put it up as if, I don't know, like the way they put up headlines from reality gee, they're like, and here's Joseph Smith. I don't know why, just was like a very funny thing that they just decided they'll be like Gays, you're wondering this is here's here's someone here's the guy who started Mormonism. Yeah, and the brother is talking about how he's still traumatized and you know, he's still going through like one day he feels great and the next day he feels terrible and then the next day he's playing

grummy cube and then the next day he's talking to the grummy cube. And he talks about how he felt like he basically raised his kids in a cult, you know, which makes him a terrible parent. And she's like crying, you know, like real tears, real high-spice tears, go figure. So she's crying and it was a nice scene, you know, I think that anybody, I guess it depends on your level of religious upbringing. Mine was pretty harsh. And I still feel like that a lot of days too, where I'm just like the one who's like, no thanks. But even if you say anything, like you're going to hell,

like I still have that in my head. And mine was nothing compared to what these people went through. So I can only imagine. And the thing is he was really bummed because he's like, you know, I wrote that letter, which was really hard because I had to write a letter. And I was sad because you never, because I really needed you and you never got back to me. And so her whole thing was that it was the confirmation of her biggest fears that she's like, she said like that she never told anyone that

she was struggling with all this because she didn't want to affect anyone else's fate. I don't think that she wanted to be viewed as the one who's going to be now because our peeling people away from the church. She just wanted to go on her own journey. She kind of felt, I think, some sort of guilt that she had robbed him of his fate or taken him, popped his bubble or something like that. She says it's really hard being a role model and a traitor at the same time,

which that's pretty profound, Heather, gay. Yeah, I mean, I get it. I feel like this one I have Coke, because you're like, you're like, you want some Coke and then somebody does Coke and then two months later, they're like, good, Jemny Coke. And you're like, oh my God, this is what I did to that. So this is like the more, I'm just trying to relate

in some way. Yeah, that's fine. You've got to find a connection, you know? Coke is my Mormonism, okay. So basically she's saying, you know, she's still dealing with it too, and she's never telling anybody leave the church. She's just saying that she couldn't be happy

and stay Mormon. And so she's like, but you know, it's just like I wanted to honor her dad and her family. And he's like, I'm not laying it on you. It's not your fault. You haven't saved my family. You've saved us. You haven't ruined it. Just one.

I just went. Remy cube. Yeah. It's been family. Remy cube. Mm hmm. Yep. Let's see Joseph Smith play some Remy cube, huh?

So then on the topic of religion, we then go over to Jen Shaw's house where her family is praying because it's the last night of last day of Ramadan. And so we were seeing them pray, which was interesting for me because I feel like I have not really seen that family being like religious, not coming from a place of skepticism, but we just have not, you know, it's cool to see that.

And so Jen says, the fact that I'm going through the most difficult time of my life and Ramadan is happening, I'm looking at this like a blessing. Like I need this right now, I need this right now. So they've been basically fasting every single day, for 30 days. And...

And you get extra points for like praying in a Louis Vuitton prayer shop. You do, I think so. I think so. So they're eating and then so Jen and Shereef decided to go downstairs to talk and Shereef is basically like, well, I know we said we talk about things as they come up. So, so I think we have to start thinking about making a move and it has to be quick. I need us to get a place where we have a small spot where we don't have to pay as much. I'm like, now Shreep, as far as we can tell, you're not involved in this crime, but you're

definitely sounding like you're like Madeline's toe and like, and like 12 monkeys being like, we have to get you across the border, you know, like, it definitely sounds very getaway carry, right? Well, no, he's, we need to keep spending Xillians of dollars a month, lady. You have to pay $2 million, we have to move. And she's like, no, I mean, I guess. And of course, Jen wants some things

and out here come the tears because she wants to keep the rental mansion. So she's like, I guess I'm just worried because they're sizing. Our homeless were so many people consider home, you know, our parents, our family comes here. It's a home. It's a home. I know I've filled my family. And I can't poor people have family over too. Yeah. Yeah. That's

called get a food on. Get a food on. Yeah, she does not want to sacrifice her lifestyle. This is kind of an amazing scene that like here, she has to, between choosing for her, like to fight for her freedom essentially, to save money for her freedom, or she downsize her house, she's gonna choose jail, which is ironic, right? But like she wants to,

she wants to save the big house, which might wind her up in the big house. She wants to be able to move from one big house to the next big house because it's really hard to go from big to small to big. It's like a goldfish is traumatized once you take it out of the aquarium. You carry it in the car in a little plastic bag, then you put it in another aquarium. Just aquarium to aquarium. She's just very confused about, like someone told her, jail was the big house,

and I think she's very confused on what person is really like. So she's just like, so now she's like, I can't wait. Just saving up so I can move to the big house. She's now making herself sound like she literally has like a youth hospital or something, and she's like, I employ the

vast majority of my family. I mean, it's probably upwards of $50,000 a month. I mean, I give them work, I give them telephones, I give them lists of old people to call up and to offer them websites so they can, you know, do things with them. I should stop talking. Should I? Yes, Jen. Yes. You really should, because even I, you know, I don't know anything, and I'm on high alert. I'm like, wait a minute. So she's putting that out there for some reason, right? Like she's putting out $50,000 of expenses

to support her family. So I'm just curious. I'm really curious how this is all going to play out in court. And I cannot wait to go back and, you know, get yarn and pins on my walls, start stringing it all together like Remember when she said that she was talking about this But basically he's like babe Like we're going again and he keeps doing this

And so he's so frustrated. He's like babe we're going against the behemoth That is the federal government and I know that they're wrong and we have to prove them wrong. But we need resources to do that. That's what we have to do. Is that we saw one of the nephews? No, they don't. They don't accept one of the nephews. Can we sell our aunt? Can we sell a grandmother something? No. How many kidneys does still have? Can't get that work? So, give them stews kids So she's like the scariest thing for me could be like this is could be like my last Ramadan like I have my family

And I'm like am I gonna see you reefy go to med school? I'm like a CO work graduate like this is the shit that gets me up at night And I don't understand anything because anyone that knows me knows that it isn't me. The things I'm gonna accuse of, it's not me. Yeah, I do not feel for her at all. Yeah, I do. I feel for her kids, but I don't feel for her. So he's like, I know, I know. So they kiss, not so every.

So I'm dumb. So Lisa arrives at like a metal great thing, it says, it says crater entrance, which is about the most apt metaphor for this group of friends. Yeah, really is, especially this friendship, because it's a workout day with Whitney and Lisa. Hi, Cheney. So they are going to go work. Like, like, hi, I'm like Blake Christian from Kuveh. Welcome to the Homestead Creator.

Kuveh just wants to make you happy. A homestead creator. Is this a creator that arrived on earth wearing a bonnet, like churning butter? Just like creator one rule. Only one rule in the homestead creator. Don't Google Homestead Creator. Yeah.

That the creator just had like a covered whack and then it like landed on the Earth and I'm not the creator of the meteor. So it's a the whatever this crater is whatever this this Mormon asteroid that landed in Utah has created an underground cave pool and Celisa is like am I gonna have to get my hot what? So I get my hot water? So she doesn't want that, because she made her hair nice for creator yoga. Yeah.

And she's talking about how she's trying with Whitney, but it's so hard, because Whitney just keeps wanting to fight with her, but she's really trying. So Whitney comes and she's like, Is this a setup? It is water. I have, people have a habit of threatening to drown me

in bodies of water. I can't. I can't with Whitney holding onto this. The stupid comment that Jen Shaw made, like Jen Shaw was not planning to drown you in a pond. It was twice. Once she said, if you do this again, they showed the clip where she's like, you're asking me one more time with me

And I'm gonna drown you bitch and then there was also the thing of like I'm gonna drown with me in that pond in the back So anyway, so they're there and then like two frogs come out of the pond like rib it by the way Lisa I can't believe what Angie is doing to you. Ribbit, ribbit, ribbit. Oh my god. Frogs, I can't believe that. This is a setup. So they did do wacky exercise, like meditating on paddle boards or whatever or yoga. And then we see Lisa's like, you know, everything just underseller, blah, blah, and bow. And when he's like, yeah, I hate it. How it ended. The mom smoking sign never went off. And she's like, yeah, you think, oh, that was gross. And we get a clip of Whitney going, I think that Lisa saw a sever. And then she tried, can we

start this again? And we flash back. And she she's like yeah, what was hard for me was because the night before Everyone was saying stuff and then everyone did this like whole 180 and in my perspective that was a whole flip flop Oh good. I was looking for my flip flop. Thank you so much for getting that for me Listen, I'll further elaborate on that too. I went to her room to marry his room and I said, marry! I read things and I have a few questions for you and I might have more and I need to know, do you or does anyone at your church think that you're God? And she, the hamily, said no. And then I asked her a few other questions. I asked, do you love me enough for both of us? She said no, and I said cool, and I kept it light.

And then Sassy met me at the door and told me that Brooks had fallen down some stairs, turns out he just gone down an escalator at the mall. And that's it. She's like, but did she bring up the camera and stuff? Yeah, I did, lightly, because you know, I was keeping it light. So, you know, then I was like, does that bother you?

That, you know, people are talking about it does that bother you? That, you know, people are talking about it. And she said that people have talked about a charge for 30 years. And just to make it 100 clear, but now I believe a Cameron told me, I believe a Cameron told me. Yeah, she's well, I know Cameron's friends with Angieiah to my best friend cousin, and I ask Angi for Cameron's phone number and I just want to know more about what he said to Meredith. So Lisa is mad, right? Because Whitney has now gone to Lisa's story to take it. Like Lisa was just going to try and set Whitney up and that be it, but then Whitney took it further, but wisely some ads. She was trying to set Whitney up to take this information and blow

Mary up with it. So now Whitney is not only doing everything Lisa wants. She's like upping the Annie and actually going to him and trying to bring Mary down. So I think, hey, it's hilarious because Whitney is like, I will not be manipulated. So then I interviewed Cameron for 19 hours. I know. I think at least is probably, well, Lisa maybe Lisa wanted to be the gatekeeper to Cameron.

Maybe she wants to be the one to be like, truly exposing the cult, or maybe she's afraid of Mary. Maybe she's afraid of she's gonna come back at her, or maybe she's just annoyed because Whitney accused Lisa of, you know, doing all these behind the scenes things with the caterers, and now here goes, wouldn't you doing behind the scene stuff with this guy on a cult?

And it seems to be all like fine. Right. So Whitney is saying that, you know, I felt like I was starting to have the same experience everyone else had with Mary, and I was like to have the same experience everyone else had with Mary and I was like if Lisa knows even one Percentile of the things that Cameron told me then I get why Lisa doesn't want to upset Mary either She's a murderer a

Murder She's complicated. It's like when you go to a restaurant and have a coke machine But it's like digital and it's a press and it's like do you go to a restaurant and have a Coke machine, but it's like digital, I have to press, and it's like, do you want dark oak? And like, yeah, do you want dark oak, which are, hey, what do you want like vanilla, or all these other flavors? It's like, she's complicated, like one of those machines, okay?

Well, the rumors are that Mary and Robert are predators, which is why you have to wear mud when you go near them. They can't see you then. And Lisa's like, what? And she's like, yeah, it is online. Take that more minisan. So, Whitney, yeah, Whitney's just going all in on this dirty work for Lisa. I'm loving it. And the producers like, do you feel comfortable saying some of the things that you've read online? No, I don't even know if I'm comfortable saying it because if it is true, I don't want to

put my family safety at risk. It's like what I said at Bell, unless you tell us everything we're all in danger, but this is reverse. It's like unless I don't say everything we're in. Can we start from the top? So Whitney saying that basically the church scares people into thinking that Robert and Mary are God and that if they don't do What Robert and Mary want that they're gonna go to jail or they're gonna go to hell or yeah, gel hell How does I feel like how most congregations on various religions work?

So Lisa says well, that's interesting to me, because when I was in Maris room, she said something to the fact with Jan, like, hey, see what happens when you mess with my charge, you go on a job. Yes, and Whitney's like, so it sounds like the rumors of Mary being a cult leader are probably true. So again, I had to, Oh, sorry, go ahead. I was just gonna say, like, when Lisa brought that up,

when he said, so did she have something to do with that? You're telling me right now, I should be concerned, like, when she did not say that, you're just saying that, like, Mary likes to exert threats. You know, like, she likes to, like,

like, don't go against me, otherwise something bad is gonna happen to you. But now, what needs basically trying to make it sound like Mary might have been the one who turned in Gen Shaw. Yes, also Whitney was again, Whitney was fine with all of this. She knew all of this stuff about Mary. Yes, she just talked to Cameron,

but all of this stuff she's been sitting on because she heard all this stuff from the cousin who she's friends with. So Mary was just fine with all of this stuff and to, or Whitney was just fine with all of this stuff until she got in a fight with Mary. And now it's suddenly so morally wrong. So people like choosing their moral side suddenly because they get mad about something, shut up, Whitney.

So Dave Jennings, although these stories are fucking crazy and I went on to Reddit and read an insane thread about this that was from last year of like when she left the Mary. So Mary and Robert just left for like three years. This is according to Reddit. Do not sue me. Okay. I'll just I'm just telling you what I read. So they left the church for like three years saying that she was she was ill. She had the same illness that her mother had, which apparently caused boils and all of this stuff. So she had to get out and get this treatment. So she was saying, it's desperate.

I'm in a desperate situation. And God wants you guys to give us all your money so I can get fixed in the hospital. So that's why people were selling their homes and doing all of this stuff at that time to give them all this money. So then three years later, she shows up and the way the person phrased it was like, she shows up with half the nose, blonde hair, half the body, you know, a different color,

like bleached skin bleaching or whatever, and refused to admit she had anything done and said that God was just, God enlightened her or something. I mean, it's crazy. It's crazy. All these stories are so fucking that's with Mary. My God. This is truly an insane show on so many different levels. So now it's the day of Jenny's fall luncheon and Meredith is on the phone with Seth. Uh, she's in the closet and she's like, well, I can't reach my shoes. There's an upper shelf of my closet. So I need you, or rocks, help me because I don't understand the concept of standing on chairs. Okay.

Ladder is for me. And he's like, you know what you should do? You should get out. You should get a broomstick. Yeah, get a broomstick yeah get a broomstick saying ah and I'm gonna broomstick man oh my god long a man but I got a real good view of your tress now yeah yeah oh yes what a that shoe marative yeah I get it marath yeah that's hot I like that long stick marath it in your hands. Yeah. Yeah. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crap and commercial. So then Heather's picking out shoes with her brother Tyler, who's like this.

And then we go to Mary, who is calling on a landline to add her husband. And she's like, could you bring my coat? I mean, never mind that. And he's like, no, I mean, what coat? She's like, well, you have to ask first. I don't even understand. Do they understand what they're saying to each other? Yeah, Mary, what part of him saying what coat is

you have to ask first? And then she goes, the Balmain coat with the grommets. As if he's, we all know, Rafferts not going to know what a Balmain coat is with grommommets. And as if he's, we all know, Rapper's not going to know what a Balmain Coat is with Grommet. And of course he goes, I don't know what that is. He just got help me. He helped me. He helped me.

I literally called God and he wouldn't help me. So. So then there's some sort of music. I don't know what the music is, but I wrote down the music is killing it today on the show It was just whatever was was this the music you were talking about before that you liked This is yeah, it might have been yeah the the deep flute music or whatever so here we are the international peace gardens and

The on green it's Jenny and she's like oh my god Megan God, Megan. So this girl, Megan, oh my God, she's fresh off your base. Yes. This one, this one, she's like, have I got a story to tell you about my brother who died of dysentery on the way to getting supplies across her river? Am I right, everyone? Um, so Jenny tells us how excited she is for this fall lunch and and she really wants the ladies to understand her by getting to know her food and all of this. And so she's assigning seating. And then we go to Jen and Heather having a drink and um Jen's like a free, free cocktail. Right. She's

like, here's to P stay. And Whitney's like, Oh, the cocktail. Right. She's like, here's to P's day. And Whitney's like, oh, you know, I have nothing but good vibes. And we're like, wait a minute. Whitney's here. Whitney's all the opinions is here. So then Whitney explains, even though I had strong opinions in Vail, after seeing Jenn the other night, my heart softened because what I saw was a woman in pain. So three days earlier, Jen is basically a beauty lab in laser and Jen is

chronic. Going through this, truly, I know my real friends are Jen, why are you trying to shove my face into the foot pool? Why Jen? why? Can I get some more water? I just want water. And now I know who my real friends are. Now I know! So, good news. Good news, like. People have just trapped you. She's like, yeah, I haven't even talked to some of my family

who are also my employees. I gotta keep my house. I've just heard that wouldn't do this, I wouldn't do this. And so Jen's like, I hope the invitation to lunch in today is genuine and sincere because I'm tired of being judged. Oh, just you wait. That part hasn't even started yet. So Heather's like, you know what,

we're not the judge and jury. And if you tell me if you tell me you're innocent, then you tell me you're innocent, okay? And if you go to jail, then we'll deal with that. And we'll cry about it later. We'll get crying, lady. It's like, oh, here comes that Homeland Security Officer again.

Yeah, she goes to jail now. Cry. Start the grieving process now. Would anyone like some more water in their glass? Does anyone mind if I have Jane Shah's phone because she goes to jail now? You know, it is funny that Whitney is like, I did have all these opinions,

but then I changed my mind. I kind of feel like she definitely does not allow that for other people, right? Cause that is, I think you're allowed to change your mind. I think you're allowed to take any information or have like perspective or have a moment where you say, you know what, I'm revising my opinions, but like I feel like specifically with Lisa.

Anytime Lisa says, like, you know what I want to have for breakfast today and make my fun. And then she shows up with like chicken fingers. And then she's like, wait, you said make my fun. This is a set up. You've set me up again. You are manipulating means. So Meredith arrives at the fun lunch

and Lisa comes in and like a green flowy robe and other pants and she's like, oh my God, we're just like each other, Janne. We're both wearing pants on this robe. Oh my God, Janne. Hi, Janne's pants. Janay we're both wearing pants on a rub oh my god Janay Hi Janice pants so

They're like did you wear that outfit for do we she's like no I did not and She Jenny says because do we ask for sister wife? She's not I'm not gonna reward him by dressing all sexy for him No, because Jenny always has like a very mom way of trying to be sassy, right? I always feel like, she always feels like she's like, in like home goods being like, oh, and here's what I learned that the kids say now. Hell no.

My sister does that. She's a mom. She does that all the time. She's like, hey, does that all the time. Hey, did you see that dresser over there? It's the bomb.com. So Meredith is like, how's it going? I think then like, you guys need therapy or Jenny thinks they need, who cares? I'm so, I, people are arriving are arriving so Meredith is like wait a second. Oh, I mean see there's you know I think those trains is that a it's not a Todd world is that is that

Jennifer Yeah, I think this is where we get the So where we get the And Heather's like just walk and pray walk and pray and then we see the clip of Meredith going Didn't we all have this conversation Not to make me if you're her I feel betrayed just made and Rather upset by it. She's like, but I'm just doing it. It's a piececard Meredith She like that why would you invite the person that's all the trouble. I'm you just got married at home on I'm getting a call from my little baby toddler.

Hi, brox, I'm just married with someone. Yeah, with terrible mom, you got to work on that. Okay, thanks for the feedback. Bye. So she's not going to leave because she's more mature than that, but she is gonna glide through the lunch. So everybody is like hugging, and Meredith, Meredith, Meredith is like, I'm Halaljohn, how are you? And they give each other like a little cold kiss.

And Jenny is like, well, I invited you guys to the International Peace Garden today. And Meredith is like, Rallying of Mary coming. She's like, well, I want to have peace in my life and I want to have peace in your life. And I wish that on everyone. So there's like a very cold toast. And then there's like, you know, what, I'm in this beautiful spiritual garden and all I feel is this thick brick wall of peer tension and the tension is palpable just between marathon jenn at marries not even here yet and oh my goodness, I have a rummy cube in my luba tans excuse me one moment.

Maybe that's what I was feeling. Excuse me, guys. My brother just texted me. I'm not going to text him back. What were we talking about? Excuse me, my brother's calling. Hold on a second. He's no how to use the, no, you can't put Rummy Cubes in the Myrker way of Tyler. Gosh, he really was sheltered.

So they've been waiting for Mary to eat, but they're not going to wait anymore, because Mary's just too damn late. So they all go, for Mary to eat, but they're not going to wait anymore, because Mary's just too damn late. So they all go move to the table, which is like over a bridge and through a field and over another bridge. This cast never does anything close to a car or a door. Like they have to travel.

They have to make long journeys to do everything on this show. Did you see that by the way, Ronnie? I finally got myself in focus. That's a good moment there for people who are wondering what the heck I was doing on the screen here. So yeah, they have to walk over so many obstacles and there's always lots of slats that they have to go through. So they're just waiting and they're just going through it and Mary is going to be sitting in between Heather and Meredith at the table. That's where she's slotted.

Heather's like, Jenny, were you not in veil? This is actually a sincere question. I actually don't remember you being on that trip. Were you on that trip with us, Jenny? She's like, yeah. She's like, yes, and you're sitting where I'm telling you to sit. So Mary is there now, but she's like making her track across the mark. So Jenny starts announcing the food and the dishes and all this and a special drink with

mango and lime and bird's eye chili. And Whitney's like, gross, but then how does the bird continue to see? The drink is, this drink is manipulating me. So now Mary is, she's approaching. Mary is approaching very slowly and she's like, come on, little Jen, if you're going to, if you're going to do something in a park, don't press form over. Come on. I said to the woman who made everyone dress up in like

hood couture to go to Valtors for a luncheon. Yeah. So they start eating and Mary's doing another bridge now. And so she and her he's talking about how they don't do fried stuff and whatever. We're just waiting for this to come alive because we know it's going to be fucking crazy, right? So Mary finally gets there and she, you know, she's everyone saying hi and Lisa says,

Oh, Mary, you're blonde. I love that, Mary. I love that you're blonde now. Mary's like, um, we'll talk after Okay, it's called a different wig and she's like, oh my god, you look good blonde. Hasada's Yeah, so we see the picture of Jenny in the wig again and Heather is like you look like an in the wake again and Heather is like, you look like an ony-may character. Yeah, can you tell I'm very, very, very white because I just said ony-may character, you look gorgeous.

And then Mary goes, oh yeah, with the slanted eyes, love it. I mean, what the hell? Oh, wow. What, like out of left field, it was like, wait, what just happened What does nobody say anything to that? I mean that's just fucking crazy Yeah, that was

Shocking but we've seen the previews for next week or for the next episode that Jenny is going to address this But when she said yeah the, the slanted eyes, I was like, oh wow, wow, you just had to issue an apology that looked somehow like a New Year's invitation for saying stuff about like Mexican, what was she said Mexican thugs last time in a way that just- She said she's like one of those Mexicans. Mary, I mean, what the fuck?

Like how does production not say it? Like how is nobody saying anything? It's the weirdest fucking thing. So Mary is like, you know, uh, oh, Jenny says, oh, does she just say she likes my slanted eyes? Does she not know? You can't say that. Like if this wasn't my event, she'd be on the ground

right now, right? Right. So then Mary is telling Heather, you know, even if we left on a bad note, you know, I'm surprised that you could have a good, have me back, which I mean, by tone, I guess means we're I'm glad you're being nice to me today. Who knows what this woman's saying. So Heather's like, oh, go ahead. Oh, I was just going to say that they are also being served on me and Lisa. So she's like, oh, everyone, we're going to have some bond me and Lisa goes, what's lonely? Tell me about only goodness. Oh, God. So Heather's like, yeah, I didn't know what the temperature was going to be between

us today. And Mary gets, um, you know, my temperature. And she's like, well, I had hoped to you just forgotten about everything because I just want to be a peace man. Like there's already just like so much crap going on. And she goes, okay, you know, I like that. I like you Heather. I like Heather. Heather's like, you want a toast to that?

So Heather's, Heather basically is like, you know what? Mary, it does not hold grudges She just basically like comes at you and then whatever. She basically like a silent killer, right? So now Lisa's like, wow Everyone's friends the peace garden works. That's peace. Everyone's besties pass the bone lie, please So now they're having filet me yonthaa. And Heather's like, oh my God, never in my life have I had Philemi. And never in my life. I've only seen this in anime movies.

Wow, this is amazing. So Whitney is like, are we in reality? Or am I tripping on shims right now? Is this even real? Is everyone really being this fake? I'm like, Whitney, you're not want to talk about people like having like 180s. If you just had this thing with Gen Sha,

where you said you wanted to be lab and laser and was like, she deserves some grace. And now you're upset that other people decide they're going to be nice to people. Yeah. So she's like, Mary goes, oh, so are you saying you like everyone's faking it? Is that what you're saying over there and this goes oh that's the lie I tell And Whitney's like yeah, everybody I just love how like everybody is like being fake America's oh so

Huh are you sure we're all doing that or are you doing that? all doing that or are you doing doing pretty well today, you know Yeah, and you are the one who talked to you about Gen Shaw immensely and now are like she deserves grace. Okay, you're acting like that never happened either Okay, so Jenny is like well I know it's awkward that we pretend that nothing happened, but I know that there's a lot that happened. You know, we missed Jen at the bail trip and there was a lot, there was a lot of talking going on,

there was a lot that was said. And some mayors like, so I mean, we need to just like re-hurt people now, is that what we need to do? And she's like, no, I don't want to hurt anyone. The purpose is not to hurt people. Yeah, I just, you know, we just need to talk about it. So she's like, no, I don't want to hurt anyone. The purpose is not to hurt people. Yeah. I just, you know, we just need to talk about it. So, Jim's like, okay, let's talk about it then. Yeah, okay. So silence. So, Jim's like, hold on. Okay. I had no idea anything like this would happen. Like, I've never been in trouble in my life. Like, I've never even had a speeding ticket. Like, I didn't go to jail.

I didn't get booked in jail despite what was on the media. I went to a break room. What is that? I know. I think it's just a break room thing. The thing she's holding on to to prove all of this is crazy. Like, oh, the media said I was taken to jail, but I was taken to a break room, which means everything is a lie.

Okay, this is a lie against me. And Mary, all of a sudden, is gonna be like Jen's biggest ally. She was like, sweetheart, I can tell by the outfit that you didn't go to jail. Okay, I love your outfit, by the way. I love it, I love it so much. Well, I thought I was going to bail, not jail. Oh, God.

Who, I was waiting two weeks to say that line. Oh, man. They took me into a break room Not jail. Oh God. Who I was waiting two weeks to say that line. Oh man They took me into a break room and they asked me all about these people that I don't even like I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I mean the names They're asking me. I'm like what? So like I didn't know what they meant. So I was just trying to ask answer their questions Mary goes so you were completely oblivious to everything really? And she goes, absolutely. Now, you didn't know anything going on.

It's like, no, she was really hot. We get my favorite sound. Like 110%. It's how much interest I'm charging my family to live in my home. And I did not know anything about this. And Mary is like, Jen, this is the true story. This is feeling a whole lot like, like well, from what we got, it feels like a whole thing,

you know, and so, just like this is, this is true, I swear, oh my father. So Mary is like, okay, you don't have a clue then what's going on and she's basically laughing at Jen. And Jen is like no I know clue. I mean you think I'm gonna show up the beauty lab if I know what's coming I'm very Gus. No no one's saying that but like after you were arrested you didn't know why I'm like no I know clue. She's okay, so they just

Randomly chose your name to think that you and Stewart were. Because I have no idea. I just like, I don't know. Like, I don't know. I don't know any of the people that they asked me about. And Mary again is like, you had no clue. So at first I'm like, wow, Mary is being like the surprise, you know, skeptic to Jen's face is kind of in an amazing way, right? And so, um,

Whitney is just has some, she has some pink glasses and she looks away and then Meredith takes off her glasses. Like Meredith takes her glasses like she's Maritalga Murders. Like, all right, it's time for me to engage a little bit. I'm taking the glasses off. There's a lot, there's a lot that I mean, we do a lot of the right now. So then Jenny goes, well, we read everything and they texted to us all the information and I want you to understand. Who texted you the information? She's like, well,

when they was texting, when they was, I was right there. Yeah. She's, I am not the only person who is texting information. Like Lisa's lawyers texted her, I didn't get texted. My lawyer called me. Okay, you called your lawyer. No, I called my lawyer, but then my other lawyer called me and I didn't call them in the first place. And then another lawyer called that I actually left a voicemail for them and then they called me. They called

me. I left a voicemail, but they called me. This lie in one sentence is so funny. I called my lawyer, but then my other lawyer that I did not call, called me back. How'd they call you back? Have you even called them? Exactly. So how they're like, well, I did not call anyone. You know, I just got information from Whitney and to every now see everybody's arguing over shit that doesn't matter. Who cares? We're all talking about it. It was all over the news.

We were all reading it. Okay. They're being like hyper-confessionals in this pursuit of like blatant transparency and honesty to be like, no, we were doing this. We were all doing this. It's almost to be like, we're not going to be fake about this. We're being very real. We were gobbling up all the information and everything.

And Jenny goes, what the bottom line is, you guys have news that she was arrested, okay? And Mary is like, excuse me, Jen, I did not talk about you. Which of course we get a clip of Mary saying, I believe she's reaping. That, which a man's so with, that is what he shall reap.

And she scammed old people. And old people that didn't have money No, we're more from her and I never saw anything good in her ever and I was scared of her because I knew what she was capable of Mary like went in on Jen so hard like I never saw anything good in her this a woman a Woman who has a con woman who leads a congregation of church saying I never saw anything good in them And I was scared of her and now she's like, I never said anything. I never said anything What wasn't me? So Jen goes, thank you Mary and Lisa's like, John everybody's not talking about you and Jenny's like everyone everyone now, Jenny Jenny's like

Yallie Jenny's like I want to hear a little bit bit she's getting a little hyped up. Yes, and Mary goes What did it tell her this? Dirt her because I didn't talk about it. I didn't talk about it. So now they're getting mad at Mary because Mary is lying Right, and so Mary is like, yeah, stop hurting her and Lisa's like, you know what? To be honest Friends are honest if you're honest with friends are honest. My lower is calling me back who I didn't know if you're honest with friends or my lower is calling me back who I didn't call I did not call it So Jim's like, um, why do we even need to be here? Like if you're just gonna yell at me. I should just show up for dessert I know I love a dessert a dessert burn. Yes, and She's like, I don't know I already feel like shit and Margas. I don't feel comfortable talking about it

And she's like, I'm gonna know, I already feel like shit. And Marigas, I don't feel comfortable talking about it. And she's like, I'm gonna say one thing, and I had no idea what the fuck was going on. Can we please send her me back into my own story? Thank you. And Marigas, I wanna be real. Okay, are you upset with what they're saying? Right now, she goes, no, I'm upset because my freedom is in question, and I'm like,

fighting, I'm fighting for something bigger than this. And Mary tells us do I hope Janice innocent? Yeah, but do I think Janice innocent? No. Just shake it. She's like that that's the FBI Homeland Security, New York, whatever, no. Just state of New York, we know. So Lisa goes, you're not guilty, that's what do processes for America's. Oh my God, can I just please speak to Jen?

And Jen is like, no, I have to go to the whole process, but a $2 million retainer. And Mary's like, if you're not guilty, are you scared they may frame you? Are you gonna get framed? Which. And Mara's like, if you're not guilty, are you scared they may might frame you? Are you gonna get framed? Which I'm sure that's like, like of course that's what Jen is, well if Jen were innocent,

that's probably what she's thinking, right? She's like, how did the fuck did they even come for me? Like where did my name come from? Right. And that's what she's trying to make them think. Right. So she's like, well yeah, cause I didn't even know what I was doing there

in the first place. So at least it's like, well, yeah, because I didn't even know what I was doing there in the first place. So at least it's like, well, you know, the, here's the, yeah, here's what happened. The feds came and Mary goes, Lisa, stop. I'm talking. I don't, you know, what? I don't like that Lisa. She's like, what? I mean, listen, you know, I'm just saying, like, if the feds are versus Jen, like, that's a big deal. She goes, I'm, I'm listening to her. So could you let her talk now? She's like, you know what, we're all talking. It's a friend grip. It's a conversation. You're talking in a, because you're a friend. We're all talking like friends in the conversation. She won't shut down. I'm like, Lisa just refuses to be quiet.

Yeah, and now they're like having a whole other argument about who can talk. I'm really coming from a real place and I don't want to hear your side. I want to hear it from the source, which is funny. That Mary saying it's coming from a real place and I don't want to hear your side. I want to hear it from the source, which is funny that Mary's saying it's coming from a real place. When she's denying that she said such nasty things about Jen, right? At least she's like, I'm just giving my aside. Well, you keep chiming in. Yeah, and so she's like, I want to talk to her. I really just want to talk to her.

Well, really? You want to talk to her so bad? Then why didn't you call her? Did you call her? She goes, I don't even have your number, Jen. So I'm saying, oh, baby, you could get a number. She's not there fighting about who's a better friend to Jen. These people are crazy.

And Mary goes, Lisa is like, that has been in devil. Like, she'll start something and then she'll like, she'll be saying something, but like, maybe because she eats candy and like doesn doesn't eat food and maybe her purge of bed, I don't know. All her medical hot jokes are always so out there. Yeah. So Lisa, Mary is like, you know, you don't need to do this Lisa. Just don't do it. You're doing this to me right now. Just, yeah, because you talked about her. Just no, I did not. I did not, I did not,

I did not, I did not, cha cha cha cha cha cha. Yes, she did. Yes, she did. She talked about me and said, I was next to you. I was next, I was the next you. And then Lisa goes, I did not say that merit cross me. I did not, I did not say that merit cross me. That's a lie. That's a lie. And the mayor is like, did you say that? You guys, you guys don't have a backbone? Yeah, they don't's a lie. And then Mary's like, did you see that? You guys don't have a backbone? You guys don't have a backbone. And everyone's just looking down

because no one wants to be involved in this mess. Right, and Lisa's like, you guys, this is a spell shot. You guys roll back. And Mary does, it's like, do not talk to me about that. Mm. As a fake friend, a friend who has a cucumber

and fuse, man, kind of for a yew, I don't think so. So Heather's like, I'm just sitting here, so don't come at us, because you're on the point for not showing up for your friend. Okay. And when he's like, can I please have a conversation with Jen? And Lisa's like, whatever, you know, just stop making it all about me, everybody.

So Mary's like, you're making it stop making it all about me, everybody. So Mary's like, you're making it about you and you keep on chiming in. And I'm trying to talk to Jen and I care, I don't judge and I feel betrayal. It's, that's what the situation is because of, because like, who can't believe the FBI? Like, they're not coming for you for no reason, right? No judgment, but also they're clearly in the right, right? So Lisa's like, this is not, this is just not. And Jenny's screams, okay, this is bullshit. Mary, I said next to you, Mary.

Just don't do that. Don't do that at me. Don't do that. She goes, yeah, well, you know what I am doing. And don't lie, Mary, she said you believed she did it. Don't lie, because I was right next to you. And Mary's like, uh, can I talk? And she's just no, you can't talk because you're lying. I thought this was actually a pretty great moment for Jenny because Mary is actually full

of bullshit during this scene. Like she's actually like she didn't talk any shit. And she's like pretending to be non-judgmental, but also basically like not believing anything that Jenna's saying, which of course, no one is. But then so, but Mary is spewing bullshit. And Jenny's kind of like, you know what? Fuck you. Fuck you. Stop acting here and like bossing people around

and acting like you didn't talk any shit. I'm sick of it. So I thought it was actually a really like, I was like, oh, Jenny is probably having a proper moment. She's gonna call and give everybody a punch on their cry. And she, and she, like people have really not been able to kind of like, step up to Mary when Mary is on her bullshit.

And Jenny really was like, Jenny kind of shut Mary down, which is kind of a, not that Mary is like some crazy over the top person, but just like Mary was like, I'm talking so much bullshit, although admittedly, they all are at all times. Right. So Mary is like, you're going to talk to me with respect. And she's just, do not tell me what to do. Oh, here we go back to it. It always goes back to your original fight on housewives.

You don't tell me what to do. And she's like, oh, so are you going to look at me when you talk? Or are you going to look to everybody else, which is also why Mary was mad at her the first time. And then so she's like, I am looking at you, Mary. And she's, okay, so what are you saying? You don't care about me? No, I know. Where's that come from? And she's like, Jenny's, Jenny's like, I'm not going to fall for

this game, right? Mary, Jenny just goes, no, I don't. She's like, I don't care for you. So Mary first walk off of the day, Mary gets up and she's like, then I can leave. And she goes, there's the gate. Just go over that bridge through the field, down the slide and over another bridge. And we'll see you. Just because you don't know me. And Jen's like, Mary, don't leave. I won't be called a liar.

And then no one will tell me they don't care. No one. And Meredith is like, no, no, Mary, Mary. I need you to say. I don't wanna say if you're either. I mean, look, sitting here in the cold park and my little baby boy isn't even nearby. I don't wanna be here either.

So they walk off a Meredith because I have enough of this shit. Mary's like me too. So they walk off and Mary's like, that, she doesn't even know me. Don't you dare call me a liar, because the liars are sitting at that table. So still at the table, Jenny's like,

oh my god, did you hear that? And Lisa's like, this is a bullshit. You know what, that's a John. Derbysa Mary at other mushrooms. I saw a petast. Right? I saw a petast. I saw a pet.

What was that? Petast. Passa, passa. Passa? No. Patastas. Passa. Patastas. I said, I bet that's that. I bet that's that's that. Pasta? No, but that's that. What's that? Pasta, pasta, pasta, pasta. So, it's, Jen's like,

you think I don't have it. You think I don't have the PTSD. That's Jen's favorite thing is to do that. You don't, you think that I don't have fill in the blank. Although in this case, I think Jen actually wins out on it. She's like, you have PTSD from me getting arrested by three different government agencies. And Lisa's like, I'm not diminishing but you're failing.

It's just not as bad as what I'm failing. And just like, I really hope that nobody goes through this. Okay, guys, I hope nobody accidentally robs old people of their life. It's not a curvy trip over, you know? She's like, I need to get up. Like, I need to get my breath. Jen, you're okay though.

You're okay though. So now Jen and Mary are walking together. So they're walking off together and Mary's like, okay, I'm always gonna keep it real with you, which is funny because I never saw any good in you. Never saw that to you though. Those liars are sitting at the table sweetheart, and I don't have to lie to you and you to know that.

It is amazing what Mary is saying here, given what she's in veil, right? It was actually amazing, right? So Lisa back at the table, it's like, I'm like sick of the craziness. Okay, it's like walking in and asking for a diet coke and you've got a top instead. And then you find out the top is just RSC cola. And it's like I'm sick of the craziness.

I'm winning sick, but you were the only one talking. You need to just take a breath and listen Lisa. It's like, no, I'm not going to take a breath because I'm being my self right now. Okay. I'll take a deep breath. And I feel like I got that. And she goes, Lisa, I don't even have a problem with you right now.

Why are you yelling at me? Right now. It's like been a solid five minutes. I don't have a problem with you. What's the problem? Yeah. I went to goes, I think Lisa just needs to shut up. I'm like, Whitney, you realize the reason why you and Mary are no longer friends is because Mary was trying

to talk to Jen and you were doing the literal exact same thing that Lisa was just doing and Mary got annoyed for the exact same reason and you wouldn't shut up until she finally snapped and now you hate each other. Yeah, and so she's like, Lisa needs to shut up. Shut the fuck up. Get it? So then, Jen and Mary are now sitting on a bench and Meredith is talking to somebody. Who's Meredith talking to? Um, Meredith goes back to the table.

Right. Meredith comes back to the table. She's going to the table. She makes, right? Is this like where she like, Meredith goes back to the table. Right. Meredith comes back to the table. She's going to the table. She makes, right? Is this like where she like, she comes back to the table. And she's like, you know what? You guys say you all want to be her friend and move. What you do?

I'm the one who doesn't even like her. And I'm sitting here. Come on. Like that's because you don't like her. So you don't care. Let her be if you're her friend. Be her friend friend. Am I ranked? I'm gonna say, yeah, we need to stop making it about ourselves. It's like, oh my gosh, we all learned a lesson on Christmas. So then we go over to Mary and Jen and Mary is like,

now listen, I pray God, you're guilty. And Jen just looks at her. She goes, oh, look, I said guilty. I'm innocent. I'm innocent. I'm innocent. She goes, well, I'm innocent. She goes, well, whatever the situation,

like, do I follow it? No, no, I don't. So then we go back over to Meredith saying, I'm not going to sit here and rip someone to their back and clean their friend to their friends. It's not cool. To me, that's what I would say is, wait for it. Starts with an F, ends with an E,

sort of rhyme and rhymes with rake, but it's not a rake. That's right, that's what I call fink. There, set it. Emily says like, you know what, I love you, Meredith, but I's not a rake. That's right. That's what I all think. There. Set it. And Lisa's like, you know, I love you, Madness, but I have a problem with us because I didn't prepare it. Oh, and she's like, well, someone, man, bring your shinges just laugh. Oh, Changbo.

And so now Lisa starts yelling. She's like, oh, Bob, are you going to defend Mary? Are you going to defend what Mary just said? I hope not. I hope not. Cause that's not okay. hope not, because that's okay. I said okay, that's okay. This is like super hard fall. I've been friends with Marathas for like 10 years and it seems like there's a pattern here. Like if it has to do with like Maricospi or Marath

and our family, it's okay to defend them. Marathas comes to me, it's like that for yourself. Yeah, and so I mean, I kind of agree with that, you know, but we see what married, what Meredith doing is doing is so obvious, right? It's like going to stick up for Mary because she's gotten a alliance with Mary. That's it. She's just going to stick up for Mary no matter what, no matter how wrong she is. Yeah.

So then Mary, back with Mary and Jen, Mary is like, you know what I told myself? I said, I'm willing to be your friend this time. And I'm praying that you come out okay. And just just like, I mean, what the fuck? I love an episode that makes Jen look like the calm normal one. Because if this was anyone's first time watching this, you would think like, oh poor Jen, she probably is innocent. Look at her just poor little victim, you know. Yeah, Mary praying that she comes out okay, even though I see no good in you and I'm a friend of a great of you, I'm praying to you come out okay. So then Lisa is like, seriously, I'm like sick of it. Like don't play fucking dumb. I'm ready. I can't. I can't, I love you guys, I gotta go. I'm going to dance and yep, two more seconds before I finish the worm.

Dance and why are you doing this? All right, I'm bored and I'm boring and okay, let's talk this out. I just can't, I mean I was traumatized, terrorized and hurt with my family for two years and now you're saying you're traumatized Yes, I can't So she's like I can't listen to your PTSD your third ranked PTSD when mine is number two and Jan is number one That is not the ranking that I approve of so at least it's like but that's like a whole mother subject And she's no it's not and I told you not to include me.

Jenny, thank you very much for this lovely lunch, which you never should have had the first place. And she's like, but I was trying to make it peaceful and then Lisa's just going, burn up, burn up, burn up, burn up, burn up, burn up, burn up, all right, let me, let me, okay, Lisa, Lisa, you have been screaming for half an hour and I can't anymore. Okay, I already got through an hour of Seth making gross comments in the closet, followed by another hour of Teddy on the table barking, followed by another hour of my little baby toddler brooks walking around the kitchen saying, this is gross every few seconds. I just can't do this anymore. I have this. Heather's cracking up that she's telling off Lisa and Lisa's like, oh, that's so high five. That's my five.

And Jenny's like, I just wanted everyone to talk. I was like, you just yelled at Mary for two solid minutes lady. I like the Jenny's acting like she's the calm one of the group. No, ma'am. So then Heather's like, mom and dad are fighting. What should we do, guys? So it's like, oh, I guess it's all my fault. It's all my fault. Now I'm telling you, just because you're just stop yelling in my face. I'm you to speak higher, or to me right now. So now, Lisa and Meredith walk off. So second walk off, third walk off. So Lisa's like, can we just stop a second? Like listen, you know, like Mary's coming at me. And you're her friend.

I mean, tell her to stop, just tell her to stop. I mean, right now you can leave if you want to or you could stay, but like it's conflicting with what you just said about John, because you just came back instead with her, but now you're gonna leave, but then you're gonna stop her and you're gonna leave me. Ah!

Ah! Ah! Well, because, listen, Dom Dom, because you guys and your friends are not me, this has nothing to do with me. I've disengaged a long time ago. But you can sit there because you're my friend. And you can sit there right now because you're a

Chinese friend, but you're also my friend. I think I found my speaking point. Okay, here we go. Come on, say something and I'll use my speaking point. Ah. So I need you. Could you stay for me? You make me feel safe.

Ah. Can you please stay for me? Can you stay for me? You make me feel safe. Can you play that for me? Get you say for me. Just say for me for me. I'm Meredith Huggs, her saying, Oh, right, God, fine. Just when you stop saying, man, Oh, will you say for me?

Say for me. I'm just stopping. Say for me. Say for me. So they hug more. And Lisa is pretending to have this sobbing fit, but of course, she's not crying at all. And she's like, yeah, super.

So they go back to, now we go back to Mary and Jen. And Mary is like, you better buckle up because you've got a long road now. Prove your innocence. And Jen's like, yeah, I'm going to. She's like, dang. So she was walked back to the table knowing that. So now was walked back to the table knowing that so now murder this back to the table. Well, I'm back. I'm back. And you know, she asked me to stay for her. She wants my support.

So I'm even though I don't want to be here with any of you, I just want to really announce on the record that I'm doing this as a good engaged friend to Lisa. So then Jen and Mary return and Lisa's like, sorry, be tornado. That's it. And others like, yeah, we made it about us. And Lisa goes, and that's not, it's not about us. So Heather says, yeah, and if anyone understands how bad this is for you, it's us. I don't know what that really means, but okay. And Jen says she starts her, you know, it's us. I don't know what that really means, but okay. And Jen says she starts her, you know, fake tears again. She's like, I just want you to know I promise on my kids and my husband and my dad.

I'm innocent. I did not do the things I'm being accused of. Now, you'll notice that under your place, there's a paper asking for your social security number. Put it down. At least goes, I know it's a lot. And Heather goes, the world may seem against you, but there are people in your corner, unfortunately, they're not at this table today, but there are some people in your corner.

Yeah, Mary goes, well, I wouldn't say that, Heather. I know, I know, I mean, Mary and Jen goes, I just see people around me that believe in me. I don't know, they're for me. Really, that's all. Like, mm, sure. Okay. Well, here's a napkin.

Say, look, I'm there for you. I'm like, bye, nay. And then Jen's like, yeah, believe in me. Be there for me. And so we just get music while they're all staring at each other. And then we get some really weird synthesizer coming in. I'm like, blah, blah, blah, blah.

What the hell? This was a crazy, crazy episode. And I love every segment. I might watch it again on Christmas Eve. It was amazing. The show is absolutely amazing. Just working on all fronts. So good.

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