Watch What Crappens - RHOSLC: No Shaman In Trying

Episode Date: October 7, 2022

*Also avail as video on Crappens On Demand http://bit.ly/crappensvideo* The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City take a trip to Arizona where they breathe out trauma with a shaman and Lisa is accused of Vida-stitution. Join Patreon at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hey, Prime members, you can listen to watch what crap ends at free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. Get ready for a double load of Queen of Hearts. It's me, Jujubee, and I return to guide sexy singles through some ronchy blind dates. Cameras off. Voice only. Launching during pride. Queen of Hearts takes Miami by storm, with Daeders' Cuppe from Tampa Bayes, Just Chaz and Brittany Brave to name a few. Follow Queen of Hearts on Amazon Music about on you old bros. I'm Ronnie That's been over there. Hi, man. Hi Ronnie. How are you? Good. How's it going? Going so well. How's it going with you? Good. I mean, it's a big day over here. Watch what happens we had. We had Beverly Hills. It was almost two hours today. That recap. And now straight into salt lake. Sit down.

The super sized episode. Oh, wow, this is who this is this was it was a big night of this is a big big podcasting day for us big night of watching and notaking and big day of recording wow I'm I'm already pretty drained like a dream for us. These were both big episodes of our big shows See now so blessed I know Okay, I am hashtag blessed. I am but I'm also hashtag a little exhausted just from Beverly Hills So but that's probably one when we're well, no, when we're exhausted, I feel like that's when we have the funiest recaps Because we're just kind of like We're just I feel like when I'm exhausted. I'm just even I'm just sort of like a little bit more unfiltered and

I don't know well my resting state is exhausted. So I get it, you know It's how I do this every day. I love it So everybody, thanks for being here. Join us for take a seat live on Monday nights. That's where we talk live with you guys. It's a calling show. It's calling. And that's on Spotify live. Super fun. 7 p.m. Pacific on Spotify live. Also on demand videos. This is another video recap. Hi. Beverly Hills is also a video. So if you want to watch these come over to Crappensontamandover at patreon.com slash watch what crappens that's we will find those videos sign up at the crappensontamand

level okay now let's just get straight into this salt lake city. Shall we beam? Yeah, we had taglines we had our we had their arrival of taglines, which was very, very exciting. Did you write them down, Ronnie? I sure did. Of course I did. Also, I did write down, please apologize for swimsuit. Oh, we did not mention that Meredith was wearing a swimsuit like a blazer last week. I can't believe we didn't mention that. Did you notice it? No. Oh yes, I did. Yes, I was like buttons on it like a blazer. Wow, I'm sure that's that's a Brooksy.

No, I should have noticed that. Because only Brooks could make a swimsuit that fits that poorly on a person, okay? I mean, my God. I did not notice it actually in retrospect. That is very funny. She wore her swimsuit as a blazer. Well, you know what?

The looks like a blazer. Yeah, just like. Okay, so tag lines. I didn't write down who said what. So I'm just assuming this first one is Jen, right? It is, yeah. I'm fighting for my life, not your approval. Well, you're kind of fighting for approval to from the court and then Whitney. I am more of a feast spirit without

the Holy Spirit lime lime Em Lisa always have your back if you stop Stopping me and mine. Back up. Back up. I didn't merit it. When I take a shot, I always hit my mark.

My last name is Mark's, but it's sort of a pun that kind of works, kind of doesn't, mainly doesn't work, but if you think about it, if you had an ask-to-mile, I had an old work, but if you can pronounce, I hate my mark. Sings. I may be a bad Mormon, but I'll always be a good time girl. Damn it. I said so close to good time girl.

Can we redo that? I really don't like this. So I have to say, in season three of this show, the Trixi Monoclackle Choir has really reached new heights. They were working over time on this episode. They were pretty hard season one. They went harder season two, but season three, they are like, we are going to push the limits of this genre of chorale interstitial music.

And there is the, I mean, they are just doing great work. They also added a new syllable because their sample used to only be A's. It was always like, yeah. And now it's, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, No, not tennis. Not tennis. Yeah. Fucking pickleball. And it's one of these, like, look at us. We're in a happy marriage scenes. And so they're playing and we're like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, Meredith Celis.

And she's like, if I lose, you have to give me a three-hour miss. And she's like, no. And then she gives us her married at last. And then we got a Heather Face Timing her daughter who went out partying last night and Heather's like, I don't even know that people went out on Thursdays. It's like, wow, Heather, you really have to, we have to, there's so much more to teach you, so much more out there in this world.

It's like in my defense, Thursday night, for an big jill of BYU, which is Mormon, which you're not. I'm so proud of you. I don't want you to have to grow up the way, mom, I got to go, okay? So that's so good. So that's so good. That BYU, by the way, it's so rude that BYU Like is already like half of BYUB like that's it's so rude

It's like an acronym that just go it sort of just ends sadly for everyone, you know, yeah, it's like bring your umbrella Well, okay can't wait to go to school there So terrified John Barlow and Lisa are talking to their kid, the older one, whatever his name is. Jack. Jerk. And he's like, uh, have you talked to any of your school counselors about going to colleges? Don't hit me. And he's like, no, Lisa says, do you want me to call the school?

I can call him. I can call the school. Yeah. We can really, like, I gotta get, sorry, that's about that, jock. And then Henry says something like, you know he doesn't wanna do it. So now we go to Jen's new house,

her little brick, her little brick 4500 square foot house and she's feeding cold cuts to her dog, Bubba. And her mom comes over and she's like, Mom, hi, I set up a kiddo friendly at Sharkoori's snack board because I'm gonna go to jail. Maybe the last time we get to have Sharkoori, am I getting mom?

So this is a big episode for Sharkoori. Big. I mean huge. It's an every scene. I mean, what are dead meats, are dead animals just like sponsoring the show? What is it? It's in every fucking scene.

Delling meats with some badly cut cheese. I know, and the thing is that like the new trend are butter boards, and I'm like, it would be, this is the very Salt Lake city to be like, like, okay, you know what, let's roll out the trendiest board that there is. Ashark cutery board and people on TikTok are like, okay, you know what, let's roll out the trendiest board that there is. I charge our cutery board and people on TikTok are like, I'm actually wearing a butter instead of me, thanks.

I had a butter board. Did you? Did I tell you this? No, one of my mom's best friend made one for my dad's birthday. And it was the first time I had seen a butter board. Let me tell you, gorgeous, love the trend. I love butter, I'm glad people are catching on.

Yeah, I'm glad people are like, love the trend. I love butter. I'm glad people are catching on. Yeah. I'm glad people are like fuck hard disease. I love butter. Love that it's catching on gorgeous work that she did making this. Can I tell you it's the most horrifying thing when it's like halfway done. I mean, this butter, you know, it's just like goop. So it's just this big board full of goop and all the toppings kind of blend in together and it just it doesn't age well I'll say that the butter. I mean I still I really I do want to have a butter board moment and apparently you're supposed to do it I'm like a slate board not wood because wood will get all oily so I I don't have a sleep. You just read my mom's friend for Phil. I was like maybe that's why it looked all crazy I didn't want to I don't want to read her fully for Phil. I was like, maybe that's why it looked all crazy. I didn't want to, I didn't want to read her fully for Phil's, but let's be honest.

Yeah, you did. I don't have a split-butter for it. God. Mars will have a margarine board at that point. You better board a fail. So yeah, she's, so her mom comes over just looking terrified. Like, I'm getting my money back, right? That I gave you last year.

All of my retirement. No news on that. Okay, great. Let's do a puzzle. A puzzle sounds great. A puzzle and some ham. A puzzle and some ham. Yeah, this was worth a million dollars. This was worth. So yeah, they opened up a big old puzzle and she's talking and Jen's talking about how she had a call with her lawyer and that they did a whole mock trial, which I wish there had been cameras. Why are they not filming Jen's mock trials?

We need to see Jen going through a full dynasty trial on this show. You know, like, I am checked. I am checked. The man who killed my friend was standing right there. She's pointing fingers at sofa It's accusing them of murder She's like it was rough. I mean you have to sit there and like you can't take anything mom Like you hear all these things being said about you and you want to be like no that bullshit like what about those old people? What about what those old people did to me right? So I only swore them out twice so

with those old people did to me, right? So I only swore them out twice. So... And her mom's like, I'm not getting the swoney back, am I? Am I never getting the swoney back? Her mom's like, I'm just gonna do this puzzle. I'm just gonna do this puzzle. So, Janet has to go to New York next week

to meet with her legal team. And then, so the mom asks how the boys are doing and she's like, oh, it's been hard. I mean, Shree said the other day that Omar was crying in his room. He doesn't want to be without his mom. I was like, or maybe he's crying that you're not being taken away fast enough. He's like, please go out. He's like, when I called the feds, I thought this thing would go quicker.

She was still coming to my locker. So rude. Poor kids. It's not their fault, you know. I know. By the way, a lot of dark jokes today because this is Salt Lake City. I mean, there's not a storyline on here, this is not fucking dark. Really, I'm looking through my notes now like, God, good look with this one.

Yeah. So Jim's crying and she's doing her, you know, full on. I can't believe that we did this to an innocent person! It means nothing. I'm telling you my nails, I'm gonna get my nails done. Oh. It's like, yeah. And it's almost like on the heels of Rina

in the Beverly Hills episodes saying, I had to say this, because otherwise I would get cancer and die. Jen is like, if I didn't have my husband and my kids, mom, I would not be here on this earth. I would have killed myself. Mom, I'm like, oh, wow, they're just swinging for the fences tonight on Bravo. Yeah, they really are. So Jen thinks she would kill herself because, you know, she is bullied every single day by people online. I'm like,

have you read your own tweets online to other people? Like, you are horrible. You are a horrible bully. And if I wasn't someone who actually watched you show for three years, I might be having a sense of compassion for you, but fuck off. I can't stress enough how deeply I feel these words. Fuck off. Jen, fuck off. You're terrible. You have the worst person to other people and you did the worst things to the most vulnerable people in our society. I can't with you. I don't care. Okay. Peter, what are you talking about? Your mother I care about. I know, bless her arm. Bless her heart. But she's like, it's your best job to come home and lift me up from this. So I don't want to kill myself and not be here. It's too painful every day. Every day, I'm a dealing with this every day. You don't wanna kill myself and not be here. It's too painful every day. Every day I'm a dealing with this, every day. You don't understand. Yeah, so the mom of course is like,

I mean, this poor mom, I mean, the last, I felt, I actually felt so bad for this mom. Oh my God, I'm getting five million calls. Everyone's stopped calling me right now. I'm talking about Gen Shaw. You know, Gen Shaw knew I was speaking about her because I just got three Gen Shaw calls right now. Sorry, Gen, we're making fun of you

10 off your phone. Here at work. Turn it off and turn it face down on the thing And then I'm watching too much about something and you need something to do then turn it right side up and look at it and flick through until I shut up That's excuse me. You're the one who has actually taken calls from tele tele tele markers on the show, okay? We're in a the show, okay? We're entertainment value, okay. So I think that that might be right now was very entertaining for people, okay? Don't answer that.

So anyway, she's basically doing this whole thing like, I would die, I was gonna die, mom, I was gonna die. Her mom is like devastated. This is the last thing that her mom wants to hear. And her mom's like, I don't have the answers to give you. Like I don't know, we'll all get through this together. Puzzles, we will do puzzles together. How about that?

Puzzles for 30 years, we can get through it. Yeah, yeah, Jen, think about how your mom feels about all of this, okay? She's not only from now financially fucked, but like her kids going through this and now you're putting all of this, like leave your mom alone. You know what I mean?

Like, haven't you fucking done enough? Like just don't let this on your mom, it's shitty. So then Whitney's cheap sad house, I wrote. Sorry, but that's how I wrote it. So Whitney's cutting the cheese over to her house. And she cuts cheese. Making a sharkoot to report of course because it has to be in every scene in this house. I mean, in this episode. So she's cutting cheese, just like

I always thought Whitney would cut cheese. She cuts it like this. Just kind of flies, you know, flies off the triangle. It's very with that scene. I think that El Grosseo Parmesan, which I'm saying that mockingly as if I don't buy it too. How else do you think I know the name of it? I just think it's funny because she's making this Charcuterie board, which looks kind of elegant and sort of waspie. And then she's just in like a black crop top with shiny leather pants on.

I was like, this doesn't look like Sharkootery clothing. So, really? It dress, dressing down for Sharkootery all week. I know. Well, I think we all know if you're making a Sharkootery board, you have to wear an oversized blue shirt with your collar popped and the sleeves roll.

You basically have to dress like kind of garden, guys. Yeah. Oh god, that bit those big shirts. She has, I heard she has those specially made for herself. Like really? Do you not have an old Navy and fucking the Hamptons or wherever you are? Come on. Do you know how hard it is to make a shirt of a single color? Do you know how hard it is to make a shirt of a single color that just Single button down call shirt. It's a button down shirt that is sort of formless That's for real running. So speaking of difficult clothes Meredith comes over looking like a jib-jab cartoon version of herself because she's wearing this Locker she's wearing because you know jib because you know, a jib jab,

do you guys remember what that is? So, a jib jab's like those political cartoons where it would just be like George Bush's head on a stick figure and the head would just like bubble around. There's a lot of like George W. Bush and John Carrey's. I feel like the height of jib jab was like the carry bush here.

It was like a lot of like, I'm John Carrey. I was like, wow, there's a lot of John Carrey jib jibs. Right. To be fair, John Carrey is kind of like a lot of like I'm Don Kerry. I was like wow there's a lot of John Kerry Jim jabs right to be fair John Kerry is kind of like a Jim job to I mean He's got a Jim job And actually so to storage bus they was just so much time for Jim job You know, Jim job right right time right place They were just very lucky that they had two candidates that were actual jupter their actual product was running for president Right

So this is Meredith Coming over in like a foot locker leather jacket so it's white stripes going down like a referees jacket But the way the lines are so big they're really thick so every time she moves her neck She's under a different line and it makes it look like she's got like this pencil neck and then just a head To me her blades are red a little bit more like beetle juice to me because I had like that that chunky Tim Burton style thing But either way it was a very arresting image actually literally arresting because it was basically like prison uniform an old school prison uniform on On its side right like vertical prison uniform

prison uniform, an old school prison uniform on its side, right? Like vertical prison uniform. So either way, she comes over and then she sees the shark, redness like never been to Whitney's house. Like she's clearly like the things I have to do for revenge. Go out of Whitney's house in like this stupid neighborhood where every house looks the same. So she goes over and she sees the shark could reborn and she's like, you'll make this yourself? She's like, yes, yes I did. She goes, oh, great job. My worldview has been totally turned on its head that Whitney could do this.

And she's like, oh, look, my kids are home from school. I made them walk today because I had to make Sharkootary for you. She's like, oh, wow, brocks. I have a brocks and the kid just looks at her on Whitney's like, Brooks, you know that Meredith has a son named Brooks, right? And he's like, I mean, just like, fuck you losers.

He's like, I'm the only Brooks that matters. Wow, Brooks needs to meet Brooks, two toddlers on a plane. So Whitney's like, I'm the only Brooks that matters. Wow, Brooks and these Tommy Brooks, two toddlers on a plane day. So Whitney's like, in all the years, I've known Meredith, she's never shown any interest in coming to my house and spending time with me, but it seems that now that she has problems with Lisa,

she's tested instead. She's interned, she's interned to stay. From the top, by the way, Whitney's intern, she's interned to stay. From the top. By the way, Whitney's diary look for the season. Wow, wow, I don't even know how to describe it. It was like a lot of pink. It was very like year 2000, maybe 98, 99, kind of Britney Spearsish.

It was crazy looking. It's crazy. I like, whoa, I literally watched as a, whoa. Whoa. It's pink and her eyeshadow was really pink and then she's got like a really dark spray tan and her hair is kind of like, strawy. It's a bizarre look. I love this one for those looks.

They're all hilarious. And so they decide that they're going to go sit outside. I remember, because like, again, Whitney is wearing like a little strappy crop top. And Meredith goes, I think you might need a jacket. With, uh, Whitney loves having people sit outside in that strange little bit. Like she has that weird tiny backyard, but that's also like a, it's like a walking, yeah, it's a walking dad. It's a walk rather people. So you see how the dad's walking behind them.

So they're not close enough to show her the saloon downstairs. So speak easy downstairs. Speak easy or the ship. The brightly lit fluorescent, speak easy in the broom closet or whatever. So Meredith's like, so what's going on? Tell me, I mean life is from crazy,

and Whitney says, I think that I'm supposed to ask you what you are doing. I mean, you came to my house. It's so sad that Whitney and Meredith are spending the season so impressed that people want to talk to them. They're just so glad that I'm other people to talk to you other than each other. It's cute and sad. Did you have fun at the party in Harlem? I mean, Harlem night, the night's's heart, you know? And Meredith's like, yeah, I mean, it was awkward

with Lisa, and you know, it's just that there's no practice when you preach with her. I mean, she's hypocritical, and she's telling everyone that they're hypocritical, and they're this, and they're that. I mean, if there's one thing worse than being hypocritical, I'm saying this and that. And she has bad mouth every single one of us in the circle. And then whack this and that.

Then wacky music is Lisa evil montage, unruhels. How did I want to lose our license over someone's wedding and their basement with the stripper Paul John? Yeah, they go through all, like they literally go through Lisa talking shit about every single cast member over the past two years Yeah, oh and ending of course with peace of shit garbage or a haters fuck up in New York And Meredith is like I mean you just have to tell you yourself wow Why are you trying to put every man down on those way when there's all these rooms flying around You and Whitney's like what rumors Maritus is about to unveil rumors to me in my humble abode with my shakudari chay right in front of a walking path

Oh my god pinch me. Oh, I pinched myself What have you heard? Emerith goes, well, Jen made a reference to their having been affairs. What do you know? I think Emerith takes a cracker and just bites down us. Why does her dreamer, that's what she was doing, fangirling, and just think of being a tequila in bars. I mean, it's just rumors. It was a search before I didn't like her. I wouldn't have just tried since she was, I know this sounds absurd, but it's not because I've heard the same thing. I have a friend and it's a

mutual friend of Lisa's and he's very wealthy and very well-known in Utah and I heard she slept with him to sway him to invest in her her. Oh dude, it's true. I feel bad. So Meredith is like, well, the last thing I want to do is sit and talk about Lisa behind her back because truth be told, the back is where she does her best work. Am I right? I don't know. I've heard something about the fact of

surreading. You know, I can have a cracker. I'm just trying to understand how do we even get here? Me sitting in this very sad housing development, Lisa blowing guys to get Vita da Kila into a seven alive and how do we get here in life? Where are we? I'm how did we in here? Okay, I just have to read this tweet because this is so marid. So marid a tweet it after the show. Let's be clear. I mentioned that there were rumors of trading favors that I said I did not believe. I did not say sexual. See, this is why you don't bring little girls into a situation.

They stir the pot and put words in your mouth. Meredith, you just said she's having affairs and she's doing favors. The Whitney said she hears she's banging a guy and you don't disagree or stand. I mean, come on Meredith. Yeah, because there's nothing wrong with doing favors for Pete. Like if you're, I don't think there's anything wrong of business owners being like, hey, I'll do something for you.

If you do something for me, there's no scandal on that. There's no, unless it's like an illegal thing, right? But like if, Yeah, so, So, you know what you're trying about? You know, Yeah, there's not the wrong,

if you give a blowjob to a guy trying to get your Vita tequila into a place somebody do what you got to do. Right, but like there's no scandal if Lisa's going around like putting up posters about someone's lounge, right? Yeah, you start veta tequila. I'll use your restaurant to cater my next event at Sundance. Yeah, it's time for commercial. It's time for a... Raising kids can be one of the greatest rewards of a parent's life. But come on, someday, parenting is unbearable.

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I have to stop you. I'm sorry. Whitney didn't have a healing session. She had a healing session. Healing session. That's later on I did write Hill. I noticed that she was saying Hill. In my last healing session with Megan, I was able to connect...

My Heller? She's my Heller. I'm sorry, keep it up to you. I just thought it was so funny, fucking windy. You know, when you... there used to be a TV show about healing and how you get sad afterwards. It was called Hill Street Blues. Didn't dunch. Anyway. I was able to connect to Lisa. And then we see a week ago Whitney is talking to Megan.

She goes, normally I see Lisa in my healing. And she's big and scary. But this time she was a little girl in energy. She's an and a girl of a girl of energy. And mega, like, yeah, the inner child. Yeah. And Merbeth goes, wow. And she says, yeah. And when I felt her and saw her, I realized maybe there's like something there that's like worth fighting for. Wow. I mean, I hear you. I just don't know how dumb a person can actually make my at this point in mind you Why would I bother you know

And when he's like hear me out we have this trip coming up and Jen I know Sushing nips us. I'm hijacking all the BS. It's gonna be about healing for rils We can do this. We can come together You just hear a guy like skateboard pass it It's like I can't believe I drove down my mountain side to get to the stupid house You hear this load of bullshit, but at least I had some crappy short dinner So then we get the dance from our music version of of the awesome, which I love. It's like,

hot, hot, hot, hot, hot. Yes. So Lisa is playing basketball with her fucking jackass of a kid. I mean, this kid needs to get his ass what I'm sick of it. As Bernie Mac Wentz said, the great Bernie Mac, America beat your children, okay? It's kid music good spanking. Not on this episode. So Lisa, I am sorry I was not thinking

about future story lines. I just remembered you said that joke, Ronnie. So Lisa is, she's like, Jack, are you kidding me? You're so good at basketball. Are you kidding me? Wow, that extra foot you grow as really coming in handy. No, foot of height. Jack, stop looking.

You don't have a third foot. Hey, you ready for some competition? Here I go. I'm going to throw the ball. Yes. You ready for some competition? Ha-ha-ha-ha. I love when Lisa Britton's just to be like a light fun mom.

So yeah, we can tie our way. So they play a little bit and she's like, so look at me, let me see you do a little layup. Let me see that layup. So let's talk about college. You're doing anything with Asay Taz. He's like, yeah, well, I was mid-tier, so I have to do it again. Okay. And you still want to go to college and goes, I don't know. Okay. Well, if you don't go to college, like, what would you do? He goes, probably end up richer than if I went to college. Oh, hey, so do you want to walk me through your logic?

So like, walk me through your logic. Cause I don't understand. So like, walk me through your logic, jock. Well, I already on a company. So if I tell it with that, I can make other companies. Oh, okay, Elon. Okay. I'm slow down a little bit.

Your mom gonna do that all for you, because your mom handed you a fucking company that you did nothing for. Or are you gonna get by on your pitching skills? Can we please keep up those pitching skills? I'm gonna have a company, and it's gonna have lotions for your face for like shaving and stuff.

Yeah, at least it definitely has this look on her face. Like, I've created a monster. So, fresh monster. So, she tells us her backstory, which is, I graduated when I was 17 and my dad was like, you're on your own. And I love that you have your own business, but you have to have your own business because,

you have it because mommy and daddy were hard to. So, that's like my nice way of saying, get your lazy ass back into the house and do a college application. Yeah, because without those kind of connections, like mommy and daddy, like life sucks, you know? Like you need to think about that. Because like not many people your age have what you have,

but it's because I went to college. So, and he's like, fudge college, honestly. There's no need for it unless you're gonna, fudge college, honestly. There's no need for it, unless you're gonna make fudge. You can make fudge. I could make fudge. If you want to fudge college, fudge college is a great school,

but I want you to inspire higher, fine marshmallow college. Let's just like get out of the sugary colleges. It's gonna die at colleges. Peanut brittle college, honestly. Now you're so sweet. That's just sweet. You're just you're just going to like me, my candies that are homemade for Christmas or what?

Is that the kind of college you're going for? I'm in joy college. Oh, you're feeling like a nut. Sometimes you don't. This is supposed to be a conversation about Jack. And he's like, yeah, well, college is like a knot. Sometimes you don't. This is supposed to be a conversation about Jack. And he's like, yeah, well, college is like a factory where they pump out mediocre humans. Yeah, and by the way, Lisa has, she tells us that she was one of six kids and growing up, they hauled to like be independent, she had to be independent, because there were six kids, and she had high expectations,

and she's naturally in part of this entrepreneur, kids. I don't know, it was a weird bit of, I just wanted to mention that was one of the six kids. Yeah, it was weird, because she's like, yeah, I don't remember if this part comes in later or what, but I remember saying, like, yeah, you know, like growing up, I was one of six kids,

so I had to take care of the other kids, and my dad was like, yeah, you know, like growing up, I was one of six kids, so I had to like take care of the other kids. And my dad was like, I mean, I would, he was like 39 when I went to college and then like, he was on like missions, like that's what he did. I was like, yeah, nice. You know, you drop six children and then you're like, by going to Africa for the rest of your lives. And fun with that. See you, kids. Listen, Jack, I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from, because it seems like you're giving attitude. Like, I know everything, and I understand everything,

and like, you don't, because you have me and dad supporting you, getting you Doc hoax, and you can get to a part where you're like finding a business all your, find yourself, and I don't have to invest money in it, and your dad doesn't invest money in it, then you can be like, cool, I got this, amazing. He's like, I'm gonna go inside.

It's like I've had enough of you, mom. Yeah, that's like his version of fuck you, mom. So then this Whitney and Justin scene, which is so terrible, and I'm not gonna make fun of it because it's fucking terrible, okay? So Whitney is all upset and she comes home and she tells Justin Justin she's like, we need to talk I can't talk but

I mean it's a paper towel talk. Oh God the paper towels home. No. Yeah, she points this sofa It just grabs the entire role of paper towels and by the way I also want to point out in this very sad scene that on the on the mantle the fireplace mantle There was a banner that said, happy Valentine's Day. I was like, I was like, oh, Whitney is the person who decorates the decorates her living room like a classroom, doesn't she? Like every holiday she puts up a banner, even for val- like I feel like Valentine's Day is not a outside of a classroom, you don't put up happy Valentine's Day in your house. Do you, I always feel like that's not,

it's not a banner holiday for a household. I don't know, maybe when you have kids, you know, because like kids make all the holiday, you celebrate all, I mean, haven't you been doing home goods? You know, they have holidays, so I'm just buying that shit, you know. Yeah, it's weird to me. It was weird to me.

Also, home goods, what while we're on you, could you stop selling my mother pumpkin shaped things? I mean, how much can you let one woman get out of the store with? She looks fucking insane in there. I'm like, where are you gonna keep all of this? It's those 300 pumpkins in her house. Like, when did you become this person?

Yeah. So Whitney, she tells, she talks about how she was speaking to her half-brother Will, who we've met in like the last season, and Will has been doing therapy and healing, and he's been doing something called EDMR, which is memory-based, memory recall based off of hand-eye coordination. What does that mean? Do you remember playing Super Mario Brothers? How do it work? I remember I still haven't beat Bowser.

It's like, what does that mean? A form of memory recall based on hand eye coordinates. I don't understand this. Hapy,apy bullshit. I don't know. I don't know it. I'm just saying what happened. I only see know it. I'm just saying what happened. I only see that I'm all mad at you.

Like, why would you do that? I've only seen this kind of stuff on like lifetime movies or murder mysteries and stuff like that. I didn't know people actually did it, but she's doing it or he's doing it. And so she's like, you know how I always tell you, I don't remember details of my childhood, well, I spoke with Will,

and he was doing this therapy, and he remembered that I was actually abused, and I just don't remember it. And just like, oh my gosh, but Justin sort of, Justin sort of has this look on his face like, oh, I probably should've gone to the bath and before we start this conversation,

he sort of has like, oh, this is a lot deeper than I was expecting when I walked in the door. Yeah, so she starts sobbing, you know, and she tells us that she's blocked out a lot of her childhood. And so she's been on this journey of like self-discovery or whatever. She's had to rely on family members to fill in pieces. And she suppressed all these memories and now she feels all this pain and anger and it feels overwhelming to take this all on, which I get, but I'm just confused about how, I'm confused about all of this.

I'm gonna work, this is about so sad. Did she remember something or I am confused as well, but she is really solving. I mean, this is a, this is what she is, she is gutted at the very least. It was, it was, it was sad to see. And she was like, do you still love me? And he's like, of course I do. Of course, you're the, you're so out of my league. Of course, I am here. Don't you worry.

No matter what happens, you're always going to be the better one in this relationship. You're always on the winning end of the seesaw in this relate. Well, maybe that's not the right term, but you know what I mean. Okay, so she's basically telling them about all of this and she was scared to tell him. And you know, she says as much as she questions whether it's easier to know all of this shitty stuff She thinks it's better to be able to confront it and she's like, I know that there's trauma hidden deep inside of me and That's it. I was left by this thing like what the hell I was not expecting this at all I was not at all when she the scene started, I thought she was gonna say

that they found like her dad was dead or that her brother has disillentored since she left Mormonism. That's where I thought I was going. So I was like, ready to be like, okay, Whitney looks sad. Let's make fun. I was like, oh, this is, this seems serious. I feel like I'm not making fun of I was like, Oh, oh, this is

this seems serious. I feel like I'm not make fun of this right now. Yeah. No, no. So then Heather is packing her lingerie and her daughter's her giggling. And she's like, well, Jen wanted like a sexy lingerie party. And I'm not going to let Jen down long. And then we go to Jen and she's packing and she's like, Shreve is watching her and she's like, we're gonna go to, we're gonna play the party. It's garbage trash horror party. You guys, that's the theme. Yes.

He's like, please don't, I'll just say GW, GW. Okay, have you not fucked with this man's reputation enough? He's like, please don't. Please, babe. No. So then back with Justin Whitney, and now she's packing. And he's like, are you sure you should be going on this trip? And she's like, yeah, because for me, what's calling me to Arizona is going to, it's trying to hell and connect

with my family and move on from all this past trauma. I called my other half brother. and I said, I don't know if I'm strong enough to go to Scottsdale. And he said, no, you have to go to Scottsdale to see me. And so I'm going to go see my brother. So she's going to go to, cause her brother's there. It feels good. It feels right. I feel the hill. Ling. I feel I'm gonna hill. So what's the deal with healing anyway? Does it fill you up with feelings? So now we're at the airport and Lisa and Whitney are at the curb. It's like five in the morning or something like that. And Whitney's wearing like fringe. She's looks like she's ready to go to Nashville,

but she's going to Scottsdale. And Whitney invited Lisa to fly ahead with her down to Scottsdale because I was worried about flying all five of us together. I mean, talk about not healing. Am I right? I would have a panic attack. So, Lisa and Meredith trying to pretend

that they like hanging out with these other people. So funny. Lisa drives up and she's like, what? No. How you park? How you party? Oh, this is so hard for Lisa. And then, yeah, the base aid, not I am,

then Lisa went to land in Scottsdale and they're giving him the car to go to their house and everyone else at the airport. And Heather is like, I love Arizona in the winter. And I'm pretty just like, you don't seem that enthusiastic about this because if Arizona is the red-headed stepchild of Utah, it's just Utah with warmer and with more white people if that's humanly possible. I don't know about that. I don't know about that by the way. I think it's incorrect, man. I was like, I think you should really look at the demographics of Arizona not to get you in trouble, but like

so merida's like, oh, I mean, I wouldn't mind going to Central and when he says, well, I don't think Jen can leave the country and Jen's like, you went say all the way, yes! You know, people ask why I see everyone then then why do we get so angry at Erica Jane But then in a weird way we're supposed to be still kind of enjoy Gen shot And I think it's moments like that where she could just be so ridiculous and silly. He's like you Has like some sense of fun about her, you know, yeah, so they, so Lisa and Whitney get to the house. And these two very Arizona people are waiting for them, right? I was so happy, because you know, Arizona,

it's in me as the land of the ketchup and mustard highlights. You know, like you cannot go five feet in Arizona without seeing a girl with red and yellow streaks, you know? And there was Becca, the property manager, looking like heights and grapefond right there. And then the other one dressed like Stevie Nix. She was like Stevie Nix meets like the undertaker from WWE. Like it's just a big hat, you know.

Yeah. Like the thing. So they're waiting with cosmos and then I go, welcome to Arizona on classical music is playing. Like this is the fan a shun ever right and Heather goes is No, I'm sorry Whitney goes is this what if Mary cosplays houses Because it does look just like a very cosby house It's like just waited and everything and when he goes it's almost like Mary's still with us. And we see a flashback of Mary at that trip where Mary looks on the hallway and goes, women.

So we'll never have it like season two. I'm sorry, we will never, ever have it like season two. So Lisa says, at letter, that looks like a is dream half. Shocking 1984. The house needs to make a job day. But it's a great party. Party. Hey, Josh, that's what you should call it. Party. Party college. So now, so when he had, they're basically, yeah, they go out, Whitney at least to go to go to that pool. And then Whitney is like balancing her margarita in her boobs She's like stuck it in there. At least he's like oh my gosh. I Drink from that I don't know. I think that was the point Lisa

I think that's the guy Voice where she really hates you, but she's trying to pretend she likes you She's like oh my god. You're like the good time girl now. Sorry, how far you've been replaced. I think I'm getting to understand you better and I love that. So when he's like, well, I started this path of healing and I don't remember my childhood. I was like, oh, okay, we're just gonna go right into that. I think it just kind of looks at her. Like, here's this woman with a drink in between her boobs. It's all going into childhood trauma, right? So she's not really sure how to take it.

And Whitney's just so witty about it, you know, she goes, I've locked it out. It goes pretty deep. I started doing this energy work and I started to have memories. I'm gonna be honest It's hard for me to talk about right now. You brought it up. I know I know bringing it up then

Yeah, she was like I just not something I'm comfortable sharing. I'm like no one asked you about it So Lisa's like yeah, well you say you block out things. Well, I don't block out things But I'm like, you know what? That was stressful for me. Cause like I remember me and my sister, cause she was talking to me. And I was the middle child. And like, I got the kids ready for school. Like, I've been a adult.

I've been the adult my whole life. Yeah. You know, cause I started a college where my dad was 39. I already had two other colleges. Hey, remember that thing that Ronnie mentioned before? This is what I'm saying. I was out of order. No, that's okay, because now we don't have to sign it now. Yeah, so I'm really close to my sastars.

So when I say, I love you like a sastar, that's like a lot to me. Like not everyone loves me back. And like I get it, because like even, like hold on, let me think of an example. Hold on even Like what's that like? I can't really I love the point you don't need the fucking Barlow monologue before just get to it

Oh, it was so perfect the fact that she took Whitney's trauma and then woven into her child her tough childhood And then said that's why, because of her tough childhood, that's why when she says, when I love you like a sister, it carries like an extra gravitas for her. And then, like, therefore, the end of this proof is that Meredith has essentially been more offensive to Lisa because Meredith spurned this great title of being loved like a sister.

Right. And she says, she was more invested of loving like loved like a sister. Right. And she says she was more invested of loving like Meredith like a sister. And it was about a daughter was so Lisa's like, yeah, you know, I make one mistake. And I end up, and then now I'm a horrible person. And that's a bullshit. Yeah. Well, maybe there is a point where you can have a conversation and I can talk about my trauma, but I don't want to share that. No, don't. I can't talk about it.

I think that you guys have like very similar feelings about it. And I think that maybe you're at a point where there can be a conversation about it. And she sang it so cryptically waiting for Lisa and finally Lisa goes, oh, have you talked to her about it? She goes, um, yes. It's time for commercial. It's time for a crapance commercial. And then the other van starts, the other van arrives in the driveway and the choir is like

and they come out and Jenna they they step out and all I see is Jen having a holding a balloon a chicken balloon. I was like this show is wild. Yeah, she's also got chicken balloon. And some guy, the driver opens a door for him and Heather goes, what's your name? Thack, sack the snack. Thanks, that Wow, what an awesome house. So Lisa's like, so Whitney, how did you feel based on your conversation with Nardus? And when he goes, I don't want to get involved. I just want to say that we talked about you, but I don't want to get involved.

And Lisa goes, well, I've worked different myself, and I can't control if she forgets me. But if there's a path for resolution, I'll be on that. But it's up to her. Because I can't wallow in self-hatch rod. I'm not gonna slip my wrist for anyone. I said sorry four times, and if they can't forgive me There's nothing I can't do

So the girls come back to the pool and the music's like Meredith brings flowers it looks like she picked out front of the airport, you know, and a balloon for Whitney with some and a balloon for Whitney with some fun. She's like, I'm so, so fireball, when you're in the eye, I don't drink fireball. She's like, wow, thank you. And Lisa, it's just,

and we see Lisa's face. She's like, oh my god, I can't believe Whitney just got fireball from Madhav. Yeah. And the chicken balloon is actually, it's an insect, huh, yeah, an insect,

you're a rooster blowing and saying cock. But out of context it just looks like Jen Shaw future future inmate in a prison system is walking around with a chicken balloon and that visual out of context is quite hilarious. So Jen goes up to Whitney and she grabs her boobs and she's like, Oh my god, I missed you.

I missed you, baby. And then we get a top chef. A zing. Oh, it was the worst part in the world. And Lisa's like, oh my God, I don't work. I mean, I do wear glasses. I mean, I don't have them on right now, but I can still see if that married

that doesn't want to talk to me. And I don't want to push myself on her, especially because I'm not wearing my glasses right now, even though sometimes I wear them. So then when, yeah, when he's like, it is very, is definitely very awkward between Lisa and Meredith and I didn't expect them to have a warm welcome, but help say hello because Lisa has glasses but left them inside. Wait, is that I say that right? And they produce her ass if Mary, it feels like saying hi to Lisa and Mary, it's just like

ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, so Heather, then they're like, now it's like a little bit like a few minutes later and they're inside the kitchen and we just hear Heather say very urgently. We look for kickats for you and sugar babies and all we can find were hot tamales because they were sold out. Hot tamales and milk does and both does. She's like very serious like I'm I will give you the rundown of what we're doing this weekend. We have a shaman coming and she recommended not drinking. And Heather's like, um, did you explain to her like our background? Because we're gonna drink. This is, I'm trying to do healing.

It's my third attempt at healing, okay? This is where I actually finally noticed it in my notes, Ron. I just want to do healing. It's my third attempt at healing. Okay. This is where I actually finally noticed it in my notes run. I just want you to know this is where I wrote in caps, H I L L to remind myself to say hill for the rest of the guy. It cracks me up every time because sometimes because I do that too, you know, it's just like a regional thing, but I don't know. It's just how she does it because somewhere she does it and some words she doesn't do it. So it uses me. But once I heard it, I read some comment mentioning it and thought that was so funny. And now I can't unhear it. It makes me crazy.

But also the sheer number of times she says healing in this episode, path healing, healing journey, going on a journey for healing, a journey for paths on healing path healing. She's like, thank you for indulging me on my journey to Hill. And Jen needs us now more than ever. So I just want a girl's trip getaway for Jen to come together, just show I love and support for, for, I'm climbing up that hill. Climbing up that hill.

And Jen's like, oh my god, I wasn't expecting this. And I really needed now more than ever. Not the whole head. Broughty, not the whole head swivel. You're like the fingers are occupied, so I'll swivel the whole head. No. Jen was like, what was great was that Jen was already kind of angry that she didn't get her kick-kats and then she's like, oh, oh I'm supposed to cry right now

because So Whitney tells them that they oh she's giving them all little presents on their bed And she's decided what rooms little presents on their bed. She's decided what rooms they're going to be in. So they're all looking at their rooms. And of course, Jen gets the master again. This can come on. You know, she's going to be living in the biggest house out of anybody.

She doesn't get the biggest room every single time. Well, she's, and she's like, well, ever since the rest, all I know is I keep getting the master bedroom and like, maybe this has one area where it's working out for me. And they're all getting rooms and Meredith was so bizarre to me. She's because Whitney's like, here Meredith, here's your room. It's an indoor outdoor concept with a patio. And we see it. It's like, is murder sleeping outside? I was so confused. and it's like, it's murder sleeping outside, I was so confused. So they get gifts and of course it's Whitney Rosebags with matching PJs made out of, I'm not really sure bathing suit material, I'm not sure what those PJs are, but I know I was like, it looked like the thing that Ariel has been around and I was like, this

is like left, it's like left over from a pink concert. Well, tonight you can wear like bow, she could dress like flowy like stuff. And then there's like, um, okay, can I wear like, um, man's oversized t-shirt and Bobby socks? That's not on the journey for healing. So then everyone's unpacking and Heather is talking to Whitney and she goes, the energy when I walked in was weird. I was surprised by Jen's reaction. She got really emotional. I was like, it's just Kit Katz. Am I right? No, but I really meant it. I really care about Jen. And Heather's like, um, well,

what's Lisa's expectations? Is she nervous? No, she's not nervous. What? She should be nervous. I mean, why is she not nervous. I mean, why she not nervous? Why why she not nervous? But she's being really vulnerable and that's a good place to start vulnerability and I just feel icky because I don't want to be put in the middle of Meredith and Lisa's fight and Meredith came to me and talked about rumors And Merit came to me and talked about rumors. Yeah. And Heather's like, wait, Merit talked rumors about Lisa. Oh my God. Try not to smile. Okay. The screen. God, this is wonderful. Okay. So what she say. And she's like, well, she talked about affairs. Wait, affair or affairs? Multiple. Multiple. Oh my God. affairs wait a fair or fair is multiple multiple oh my god where is Pat say

Jack I feel like you're on a turntable right now literally about to furnish my whole life well what Meredith has heard and this is out of Meredith's own mouth is that Lisa has performed sexual favors for the advancement of Vida. There's like Vida Tequila. Like who is she servicing, Avengers, bartenders, St. Lucca officials. St. Lucca board of the whole great. Heather is loving this. I was cracking up and Whitney goes,

yeah, but now that I've gotten to know Lisa, I feel bad because I fully participated in the rumors Because I've heard them too like I want to give her a heads up. What do I do? Well now is absolutely not the time to give her a heads up about the rumor This is a trip for Jen and the last thing we want to do is cause these women to fight more. Sorry, I can't stop laughing. I can't stop laughing with me. I was dying to get her in that scene. So funny. So the shaman lady comes and she's setting out like coffee cups on the lawn and Whitney comes out and she's like, oh my god, it's so nice to meet you in person. And she's, you know, there's like, well, you're beautiful. No, you're beautiful.

And she's like, wow, who better to heal with than this group of girls who is equally as fucked up as me. And the shaman lady is named Cassenia. Yeah. Cassenia, I believe that's a made up shit. That's a made up me. Okay. I'm just telling you all right. Now that city is made up shit. That's a made up made. Okay. I'm just telling you all right now that city is made up. I feel like there's a very good chance. Name Sarah. Okay. Yeah. She was on like her high school literary club.

Like she like the she published poetry, you know. So for this with Whitney before when she was like, guys, we are going to go see a shaman heller in Arizona. And it's like some white lady named Marge. And she's like, yeah, my name is, you know, Vessantele. And I'm like, no, it's not. What do you, what do you people? What do you think you're kidding? Well, now listen, the name Cassenia is a real name, because I just looked it up. And there is someone name Cassenia is a real name because I just looked it up and there is someone in Cassenia Simanova who is a Ukrainian performance artist who does sand animation, graphic design, illustration, cinema, and literature. So, well her name is terrible. I'm not saying the name is real. I'm just saying this is not Sarah's name. This girl was named Sarah and she's

from Scottsdale. No, I agree. I'm just saying, I feel like Sarah probably saw Real Cassinias Sandart on Ukrainian, Ukrainian Ukraine's Got Talent, which is what she was on. Cassinias was on Ukraine's Got Talent. And I think Sarah was like, this is who I am now. I'm breathing in Sarah and I'm ex-Helling Cassinia. I'm breathing in Sarah and I'm exhaling Cassagna.

I'm releasing Sarah. So let's heal. So everyone is there except for Meredith. And she is once again late to one of Whitney's healing ceremonies. And Whitney says, there's a saying amongst healers in the universe does need the most healing avoid healing. That's wild poetic. I love that Whitney's so like in touch in the universe, Healer community. I know.

Did you learn that on Hillers, Hillers,ers Community.net Fought Hillary so Meredith calls Seth and she's all bitter and he's like She's like well, I am fine with the noise. And he's like, well, have you gone over where all the exit doors are? What's on the docket? She goes, well, we have a shame in coming. This will be the last time I say the word shame. And from here on out, I shall therefore preferring them as shaman's. But I'm not sure if that's the right thing for, I don't know if I am in a space to see a shaman right now.

Where did she get that? I mean, which is I cry? That was my favorite part of the episode. I have worked with a shaman. Shaman. I worked with a shaman. I mean the alternate pronunciation would be shaman, right? Well, some people would say shaman someone say shaman, but we all know That people who don't give sexual favors for tequila call them shaman's I think she was just so thrown off that everybody in this episode has served Sharkudari and everybody is pronounced Sharkudari Sharkudari That she's gonna fuck up with Shaman, you know.

Well, it's like, you know, you know how there's industry and industrial and no one's someone starts saying industry, but they start accidentally starting saying, start saying industrial and sad, sad to switch, so they say, well, um, industry. I have heard industry, but I wonder if that's like an alternate waves. I always think I'm tricked easily where I'm like, oh, maybe smart people do that, you know? Now, I'm like, oh, you started to say industrial and you really meant industry and you had to switch and it's too late. And we all know you said industry. That's a pretty way. I don't.

So I'm like, oh, no, that's totally how you say it, industry. But we had this conversation. I wonder if I fucked that up before thinking I sounded smart. There's one, what's the phrase I started to say incorrectly? What's that, what? Oh, apropos. I've, I've, I've somewhat, for some reason, now I always say apropos. And I don't know where that came from.

But now I always say, that's my industry. Yeah, I don't know how to say things. That word melee, every time I see it in a video game, I'm like, oh my God, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, first where do you were here? I was like, oh my god. I don't even see that Mimi. Oh my god. So embarrassed. I called the MEMS for a while. So, um, Annie, I ain't take it up with the shaman. Am I right? Listen, I've worked with a shaman before. I was intense, but my current dynamic with Lisa definitely plays a big part about my Hamilton Shandah

right outside. I mean, you're opening your energy and she's showing me she's not someone I, she's someone I should be protecting. My energy from your energy is not that precious. No kidding. So the lady, Vesenia, whoever is like, okay ladies, I'm gonna pass out some kick-com mixer. It's a deep heart opening, Alex. Oh, fuck off with your kick-com.

You know what you sound like? Janelle at Weight Watchers. I'm so sick of your shit telling me kick-com is the same as chocolate. No, it's not. Get your sun-harvest ass away from me and get me some M&M's or I'm leaving this Weight Watchers meeting.

Well, she actually meant to say Coco, but she said, kick-com instead, and then had to commit to it. Sort of like industry. So it's like, guys, I don't want any melee fights today. Telling you that, drink your Cacao. So how there's like, I would like to release the flavor from my mouth. Is it where did I like that?

To like, yes. Well, not really considering all you really ever have in your mouth is saccharine. Maybe it's fine for you. So Lisa's like, oh my god, I'm so bored. Like I haven't even done a drug in my life. I barely take a day. So like, you know what? I had my augmentation with like nothing.

I went in and I got a diet coke after. Okay ladies, we now need you to set an intention to release. Okay, you have to put down that diet coke bottle now. Okay, release the diet coke. That'll be the first thing to release. Okay, so once we let go of the pain, we create a space. How? Are you okay? You said to think of a pain and I thought of pinching myself and then I pinched myself. How? Okay, Whitney. Okay, let's put the brakes on that. Just follow me along.

Let's release those fingers from your thigh a little bit there. Okay. Okay, listen, once you release yourself from the pain, we create a space to call in whatever we want. Literally our life's desire, so she's like, okay, we're going to release something. Okay, Whitney, what are you going to release? And she's like, I'm letting go of past trauma. She's like, okay, well, what are you going to call in?

I'm calling in one-ness Okay, okay, big universe supposed to understand what the fuck that supposed to mean you got to be specific with the universe Okay, I know universe one this what does that mean? Are you gonna be single now? You know, are you just gonna make all your money and ones coming from now? What do I mean? Shaman's like I don't understand it, but steal that intention in with some cacao. Okay, great. So how there's like, I am going to release the shame of not making my family proud. And I'm going to call in love, understanding, and a

little bit of D, I'm not going to lie, if that that sprinter driver still around, I'd love to welcome him in. Also sugar babies would be nice just because it's 10th week. It's 10th. I'd like to welcome in some kick cats it's a little outrageous that there's no kick cats in Scottsdale.

I mean, I know it's hot here, but they still have to stock them. Don't they have refrigerators? Come on now. So Jen's like, I'm releasing going to trial. That's not how that works. Jen. Yeah. Yeah. I'm releasing the to trial. That's not how that works. Jen.

Yeah, I'm releasing the charges against me. I'm calling in innocence. And then, you know, like just to show my family, I love them every single second of every single day. I just wrote LOL fucking, Jen Yeah. Yeah, and also, Jen, if you're innocent, you shouldn't have to call it in. It should be already there. So, yeah. So Lisa's like, oh my God, I suck at this. Okay. I'm releasing heart and sadness.

Okay. Hey. This is my favorite is the Lisa Barlow cry. Yeah. Yeah. I'm calling it love. Super what? I got this.

Oh, OK. It sounds like there's a car that stuck on the side of the road. Let's wait for that sound. Let's just, it's still a little loud. Can't really hear what you're saying. OK. OK. Last time I heard this was when I met my first constipated elephant trying to make a poo on the side of the road and you can't

drink some work at Cal, please Okay, everyone close your eyes and hold back a cow to your heart as the cacao works through the system We're gonna start with the breath so they start breathing and then Meredith comes down the stairs and the music is like breath so they start breathing and then Meredith comes down the stairs and the music is like yeah yeah the only space is next to Lisa and Whitney's saying when you are late to healing events you have to take the seat you are given sorry Meredith you have to take the seat you are given. Sorry Meredith.

So for the lady who joined us a little bit late in the misshapen top, did you have something you wanted to release that you wanted to share with the group? It could be a specific person, a relationship. It could actually be just an actual fish you release into some water, whatever you want. And Meredith goes, I am not ready to share, right now. I'm just gonna hold my down. So she's like okay no problem and so Lisa's still like so they lie

they lie down and we're gonna breathe together. Okay? Remember what you're really seeing. Okay? You are not what happened to you. Wow. Okay? Does not define you. Wow. And then we hear them all breathing and this group makes for an interesting chorus of a breathing. It's a lot of like. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH So, Jen is doing more of the... I'm not close to Ashclose, and I'm like seeing the most more to be able to be able to my life. Like my coach, and I'm like, I'm all in my family, and I'm like, one of my sons is ever going to waste, probably one of my favorite games in football games. I'm like, if I'll be there, my other son's like, why coach are you in medical school?

And she's like, well, you are worthy of love. Now, unwind yourself from all of those stories because they're not yours. And Lisa's like, Gah! So she tells us what I was expecting to release was her and sadness with my ex-friend named Marath, but what I ended up really saying

was something totally different. Up on that mind. So the producer is like, damn, and she's like, yeah, because like the only memory that came to my mind was me as a little girl, because we were in this play area, like this play pen case, and there was like a slide, and I was going up and down the slide. And then my dad was like, one more time on the side. And so of course, I waited to see him turn around and then I went on the side like 20 more times. And then I couldn't find my parents. I saw I went after the front desk and I was like,

I don't see my diet coke. My dad was holding it. Yeah, and that's the only thought that went through my head. You didn't even notice I was gone. My boy, you know, you're acting like they left Yeah, and that's the only thought that went through my head. You didn't even notice I was gone. I'm like, well, you know, you're acting like they left and then it knows you're on the slide. No, you tricked them and you went back on the slide

and they knew exactly where you were. Your dad was teaching you a lesson, he's like, fine, well, she's gonna get some trauma now. And they're just sitting there in the car. Oh, yeah. This is sad, I guess, but like when I was but like when I was in when I was a kid I was in the mall with my mom and me and my cousin were like that's hot so we hidden a rack of the clothes And I was like go forget it so we can be here at the mall all day by ourselves like five

And I was like we don't need them and so my mom starts Ronnie Ronnie Ronnie, bad Ronnie Ronnie And then starts freaking out. She's called security of this, that so we eventually sneak out and get the hell out. And that's the best time. My mother went crazy called the police. I mean, it was nuts.

And so after that, she made me watch a stupid TV movie called Adam, which was about a kidnapped kid who was like raped and tortured and all this horrible stuff. And she made me sit a stupid TV movie called Adam, which was about a kidnapped kid who was like raped and tortured and all this horrible stuff. And she made me sit there and watch it like every weekend. That's what you get. You get Ronnie for being a bad little boy. See your parents can care too much.

Okay. At least you didn't have to watch Adam five times. I have a memory of going to the bank with my mom, and I would often just like zone out. I would just start staring at something and zone out. I remember I was standing with my mom, and I was like looking off somewhere and zoning out. And then I decided, I just like rested my head on my mom's butt, because you know, you're small enough

that you can, like when you lean on your mom, you're at butt height. And I just like leaned my cheek on my mom's butt. And then I looked up and it wasn't my mom. I was resting my cheek on some random ladies butt. And then I was like, where's my mom? And who's butt is this? I was like, I just remember panic and then like looking around

and then like I turned around my mom standing at the door with a like Benjamin. Relieving. That was my moment of abandonment. Wow, on a random butt. And then you grew up to be like gay. You've woken up on so many random butts. Yeah, that's part of the fun.

Anyway, so Meredith tells us, she goes, as I'm going through all this, the truth is I'm being brought to where I was and you're not going, you're not going to be with my father, my nephew, my son taking his first steps. The treatment I received over it in the pain. And my father and Matthew being used against me and the treatment I received. Oh, okay. Okay.

Calm down. Calm down now. No one abuse you over your father dying and your nephew going through mental health struggles Mariner. Well the father dying they did kind of they were pretty terrible about about that they were They were actually horrific about the father dying like was in a memorial in a Monday or a Tuesday why are you lying about it? That was like some of the worst we've ever seen So then, okay, ladies. Did we ever figure out the answer? Because I really, I still remember that that was weird

and shady. I think you did die. I think like when you're dead by, yeah, you should give a pass. I just think that saying that people like attacked her over it, it's maybe a little. maybe a little. Yeah. Well, either way, the shaman is like, okay, ladies, let out a yell. So they're like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, I think of the Tikiya, the prostitutes, you've got to sound good. Powerful work, everyone, round of applause. And when he's like, the whole point of this experience with the shaman is to be vulnerable

and to work through something hard like Justin. What I got from that experience is that I'm going to need my friends to lean on because I can't do this alone. I'm sure it's like, you guys, my body was like numb and tinkly and I could feel everyone's energy and that pushed me even farther into it. I was like, you guys, my body was like numb and tinkly and I could feel everyone's energy and that pushed me even farther into it. And Meredith Safner was in town. It's not my first time working with a shum-up.

And I apologize when I had anxiety about it. It stems from me not feeling sane with shum-up in such close proximity to Lisa's. And Heather's like, do you feel that way right now? Do you feel safe? Well, I'm very much trinkered by my last trip and having my father's death weaponized against me. And now I'm here on a same group of few days after the anniversary of losing him. And the music's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh these be safe Putin might attack Ukraine with accusations about their father's funeral. It's been weaponized. And then Lisa goes, I used to feel like I was a safe space for you and I'm sorry. She has like a false set of.

Yeah, her high voice in Marietta's guess. You are not the same shmings, you are. Okay, then I'm gonna get my blanket, and I'm gonna go inside sadly, but I'm not gonna say anything, but I still have a really high-bitch voice in my head. Bye. Yeah, Lisa's trying to do the season two Meredith, where in Meredith would wrap some sort of like, like it or a rug or whatever was nearby, should wrap it around her shoulders and walk into the house. Like that was the classic Meredith move.

So, Jen's like, oh my god, what did Lisa say? I didn't even hear it. Well, she's saying, she's saying, she's saying, I said, I said, I'm gonna say, I'm not gonna lie. And she shrugs and Sarah the shaman is sitting over there like, thanks a lot. Just wasted a lot of fucking Coco. You're all getting billed anyway, okay? And if you return my Venmo, there's gonna be hell to pay my dad is a lawyer in Scottsdale. There it is. I'm here to work through things with you and give you support because I know how people it is. Especially, yes. I'm innocent. Especially, yes, I'm innocent. So now Heather goes inside to get Lisa.

And Lisa's like, I've learned to walk away from someone who wants to talk to you, even if you give them a blowy. And Heather's like, well, nothing's going to be resolved tonight. So come on back. I just needed a break. I need a break. But I'm coming back.

Thank you for coming to got me. Thank you. So now they're going to dinner and guess what they get? Sharkootry. Fuck, Sharkootry. Jesus. Sharkootry is, yeah, it's just a big ass shark. Like the biggest one so far. Like this is the, just basically a whole table.

Yeah. And basically Heather's like, well I'm starving. Okay, we didn't have kick-cat. So I'm ready for that, Jarkiri. Okay, emotional breathing takes a lot out of me. Only Heather and me would get out from from breathing deeply and be like, wow, God, I'm hungry now. God. So Jen's like, thanks so much for putting this trip together with me because like I couldn't be here without all of you here. Well, like literally because I was like work release. So thank you. And when he say, thank you for participating. Well, wanting a rebounding set as there are things to release. And Jen says,

get a recap of what everybody released, show the fuck up on time. What do you do? Yeah, asking for a recap of the most emotional moment we've had this season episode deal. Well the other day, I had a little bit of a breakdown because I got new information from the attorneys and they were saying, there's new discovery

and so I got into a car and was like, this is ran and so I dropped my dad's grave and then coach was like, where are you? So I blocked him. He didn't do anything wrong, but I was having a moment. I was like, you're terrible. It's a terrible man.

What coach? Oh gosh, so then Whitney's crying. And Lisa's like, oh yeah, okay, bye bye. And she says, I've been on this hoeing journey for honestly here now. And I, you know how I have my childhood blocked from nine to 17. And then what, you know, just look at her like,

like, no, nine to 17. No. What? What? I thought, were you telling stories about your dad and your childhood the past two seasons? Okay. So she talks, basically she tells them,

like she's doing this therapy and memories are coming up and she found out that she was in a very abusive situation and she shoved it down so deep that she blocked all memory of it and dramatic music and she's just like nodding while everybody's trying to figure out what to say, right? And Heather's just giving this look like, what? And she goes, you? And she goes, yeah. And then they're just quiet. Like, didn't involve a slide. Did you go down a slide also? So Meredith goes, you're

brave, Whitney. And then it ends. Yeah. And so next week, it looks like more fennengames vacation time, but it's Salt Lake City. So of course, well, good, I wish it's going to stab me in my heart. Full on fighting screaming next week. This is, I guess, the the source of

Heather and Whitney's big feud of the season. I don't know. But it looks like the launch event. Yeah. Anyway. So fun episode. Fun, fun time. Thanks everyone for being here.

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