Watch What Crappens - RHOSLC: Putting the Season to Bed

Episode Date: February 26, 2021

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How you doing? I'm doing okay. My neighbors have a buzz saw on all day, every day. They're building like the gate does any land over there. I don't know what the fuck, well, I do know what they're doing because I can see their house from my house and they're making like a big deck, which is great, but it's taking longer than it would take to build a house. Just finish your fucking deck, neighbors.

Okay? Yeah. Let me tell you, you've got me in a hat. Okay, that's how pissed I am. That is really serious. My neighbors on Thursdays, they have a leaf blower that comes by at seven in the morning. And it's only for 20 minutes. It's really, and it's like leaf blowers are not the worst because they're like just, they're like one monotone.

They are the worst because you're polluting somebody else. You know, it's like you're not just pick up the leaves, pick up the fucking leaves of the break, put them in a bag. Don't just blow them into someone else's house, then're not just pick up the leaves, pick up the fucking leaves with the break, put them in a bag, don't just blow them into someone else's house, then your neighbors hate you because of that. Yeah, well, it's just also like why it's seven in the morning, and you would probably think, oh, because like, why would people wanna have leaf blow

at their own house at seven in the morning? The reason why is because it's not a house. It's actually like some sort of sound stage, it's like a little sound stage. And so I think they do the leaf blowing early so I think way if they're going to shoot something, it's not going to get in the way. And so then that comes with its own thing, which is that there's like a little patio area outside the sound stage. So people go out there to chat when they're not doing stuff on the sound stage. And so all day long, you hear people being like, oh, yeah, I was just

talking to Robert. He's just so wonderful. I was just, you know, I was in Silmar and I found this wonderful store. Oh, I've been to that store. You have been, oh my God, oh here's my dog. Woof, woof, woof, woof, I'm like, oh, go back into your sound stage. I know and then they trick you because by doing it in the day like that,

then if you're saying like, why is your leaf blower on it? Or why is your bus going at 738 in the morning? It's like, oh, you're still in bed at eight in the morning You know, then you get that yeah, like oh, sorry. We don't think anyone would still be in bed. Yes, right? Of course I'm still in bed. Who do you think you're talking to? Meanwhile, God forbid you make an always after 10 p.m. Right? Because all the ordinances are if you make an always after 10 p.m You're going to jail, but it's like oh, but you better be awake at 7 a morning I'm like I don't want to be awake at 7 a.m.

I actually also have construction on the other side and That's actually quieter than the leaf blower oddly enough. I don't know how that but whatever this is this is where anyway Who cares where at the real house wants assault lakes it was like the final episode? Ever for this year of salt Talking about leafflowers of bussaws. I know well. Here we are talking about leaf blowers of buzz saws. I know. Well, that's sort of like what this reunion was like. It was like looking at a buzz saw on our leaf blower fight, you know?

At the same time. It was like your neighbors and my neighbors going at the same time at each other. You know what's going on? You just know it's annoying. And then you know they're finally going to be quiet. And everybody's going to settle down. And then 11 o'clock at night, somebody's

going to start doing firecrackers outside on the street for no reason. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. So, um, we started off the big cliffhanger last week was that Lisa Barlow went storming off the stage and was just in hysterics and was complaining to her husband like, they're so mean to me. I can't get a word, Edger. I don't need to be here. I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna leave. And then we start this week with, I'm gonna leave. Okay, let me go back out there. Then you can draw it out.

They didn't even draw it out. It's like, okay, I'm going back. Yeah, she took John out of the air fryer and then walked him back to the stage. So John, my God, you guys, I mean, what is this? Louam on Halloween. What are you guys doing over there? So it has to clear out the spigot in that spray tan because it's just applying very unevenly. I mean, what is this? Louam on Halloween?

So what has to clear out the spigot in that spray tan because it's just applying very unevenly. It's just kind of like It's just these people so yeah, they're both really toasted Toasty to yeah, it sounds drunk. What's your name? Don't drink. They don't drink. We don't do that. We're like good We're good Mormons. So she comes back to the stage and I'm like, okay, I'm good, I'm great, let's go. And Andy's like, well, you look like a different person after that. She's like, well, that's a good thing, Andy. That's a good thing.

And then it has to Heather giving her this angry look and something I don't think that we really discussed last week is that Heather has this little purse. And like the last 15 minutes of last week's episode, she was just digging in her purse the entire time while she was yelling at someone and she was just very much like, it just looked like a lady on like a like a like a little lady on a bench not saying that she looks old but it reminded me of like a stelgetty being like, all right, well you know what? I

don't like what you have to say and she's just like picking stuff out of her bag like dumb or I don't like what you have to say. And she's just picking stuff out of her bag like dumb or I don't know what it is. Like, Banaka, just yelling at people while she's rocking. Yeah, her first busy work to show how much she doesn't care. You know, because most people do the Ramona. And she does, too. She's always holding her phone.

That's another thing. She's always holding her weapon when she's giving people dirty luck. She's like, her daughter, she gives really mean eyes to the people. And so when she's done with that, yeah, she starts looking for that one piece of gum

at the bottom of her purse. Yeah, it like really as like, I actually have better things to do, like find this gum, but I will give you a look. Wow, the husbands of join the, co-shot, did you get your pop-by shrimp, bo-boy? RAAA! Yeah, um, yeah, uh, and uh, just, yeah, they all come out and um, uh, Andy's like,

rubber, you don't seem thrilled to be here. He's like, not at all, not at all, and Andy goes, HA! Sorry! No, no, it's an Andy because sorry You're gonna be all that So sorry you have to be on a gigantic TV screen you look even more of a co-cad in big on the big screen So everything's going love your eyeliner and he's like I'm in the land of opportunity Andy Canton Ohio like no, I'm sorry the land of opportunity does not Canton Ohio. It's like, no, I'm sorry. The land of opportunity does not have Canton in the name of the city.

Okay. I hope you enjoy this zoom projection of my face so you can see my jowl talking more. Like he turns his jaw is just like come at you, you know. Also it's funny because he's, they never really kind you know. And also it was funny because they never really cut it. I mean, it seems like he was on there the whole time and just watching Seth's face on that gigantic screen the whole time.

He's like half bored, like his eyes are crossing half the time. I'm like, he's kind of fall over. I don't know if he's drinking over there, but that shit was hilarious. And then the ladies kept turning around to talk to the screen when they're talking to their husbands, but he's not actually there. It's the screen, okay? So they just probably just went back. They just sing the back of your head. And especially

Mary, she's trying to say things quietly to Robert and tell him off. It's like, he can't see you. Yeah. Um, uh, so hey, Justin, how are you doing now? We know Whitney is good on the stripper pole. How are your moves? And he's like, well, I've been known to get on that pole too. And she's like, he is better than I am on that pole, which then I had to stop and think about Justin on a stripper pole. It was intense. Yeah, the women, the women on the show really make their husbands get ready for these reunions. I mean, this guy's teeth were bleached to hell. I mean, I was like measuring his guns from my couch, you know, like, I was a cop who's, okay,

that's a lot of bleaching she did on his teeth. Well, from absent husbands to career driven wives, these women were not against opening the windows to marriage, even if they were cracks or on window analogies. Let's please make this end soon. Yeah. So we see a montage, husbands and wives. And the very first question was from Melissa from Wilmington.

And I was glad this question was asked because I actually tweeted this question because Andy on Twitter was like, who asked questions for Salt Lake City? So I actually said, like, why did Lisa, like, tell me about, I asked some question about the Rolex, like how did she get a Rolex off in the middle like while they were driving?

And so Melissa is very upset that Lisa threw away her husband's Rolex. What could he have done? What happened to Cosmess? So then Lisa has this answer where she responds in this way like, oh, this is the most normal thing ever. She's like, oh, it was so funny. Like I had picked him up from the airport and he had forgotten that was my birthday. So I was like, hmm, did you forgot to say something like I love that your birthday? I love that kind of touch. And he was like wearing the watch that I gave him for his birthday. So I was like, hmm, did you forgot to say something like, I love that your birthday. I love that kind of touch. And he was like wearing the watch that I gave him for his birthday because his birthday was like a month ago. And so I was

like, I was like, you forget to say something. He's like, here, you can have your Rolex back. And I was like, you have 10 seconds to put your Rolex back on. And ironically, we're by a taco bell, which I guess isn't that ironic, but it's coincidental. And so I threw it out the window. I was like, what? I love the best part of that was, ironically, we were in front of a Taco Bell.

Yeah, and then I said, you can go get that if you want. And then they all are like, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. I'm like, that's a Rolex you threw into the head just by a taco bell. That's crazy. So then, go chop. Do you value football more than you value your wife?

Come on, give us an am there. And he's like, no, Andy, you know, this has been very difficult, Andy. You know, and he's like, no Andy, you know, this has been very difficult, Andy. You know, and he goes on and first of all, Cochisah seems like a very nice person, but Jesus, he's always talking like he's giving you the coaching field. Like he gives the whole monologue, you know. And basically, he explains that he was always there to visit the dad. And that when the dad was in his worst of the worst conditions,

he was the only coach was the only person that the dad would even respond to. So then that created pain with Jen because she was like, well, if you're the only one he talks to, then if you were there more, then he would have gotten better. And he's like, it doesn't really make medical sense, but that's Jen.

That's the only one. That's the only one. Yeah, it doesn't. It's like definitely but that's Jen. That's weird. It doesn't, Jen logic. And then. And then. And then. And then. And then.

And then. And then. And then. And then. And then. And then. And then. And then.

And then. And then. And then. And then. And then. And then. And then. And then. And then. And then. Chop just so that way my wife can like have a little thing. He's saying he was always there I mean, that's the thing like that his answer made me think differently about it because he's like yeah this has been pretty hard because I was always there and You know, I was there at his wake and then in the years following his passing

I've been there every single day. I don't know. I'm not saying he was always there I thought he said he came in the middle of the week to see him at one point Yeah, I was always he was always there during the week But then he came in the middle of the week to see him at one point. And he was always there during the week, but then he had to leave on the weekends for work, whatever. Yeah, so he said he was at the wake and for the years that are following, he's been there every single day. I mean, I still think it's really bad.

He missed the funeral. I'm sorry, all this stuff is actually very good. It is good that he was there, good that he was at the wake, but I think it's bad that he was not at the funeral. They're upset, okay? I'm sorry. All this stuff is actually very good. It is good that he was there. Good that he was at the wake, but I think it's bad that he was not at the funeral. There. Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm going to answer. And he's like, well, that was a really long answer. Jen, if you listen to any of that, are you going to let this go now? Are you going to let it go, Elsa? How have you gone over there? And Jen's like, well, you know, he did all he could. And I just, I didn't, he didn't know what I was dealing with at the time, and neither did I.

And he's like, well, all right, let's move over to Justin's teeth. Justin's teeth. Are your teeth still a member of the church of Justin's teeth? It's all in the Vatican, cause those are really bright. Jesus himself would go blind from looking at those teeth, Justin.

All right. And he's like, well, I'm not, I received a letter from the church alerting me that I, I, I had 20% off of all goods. Like, is that a bedbath and beyond mail, or are you get? Actually, yes, it was that. It was. And I forgot to use it. I'm very emotional about it. You know, Andy, they tried to sell me dishes for $30 a piece. That will feed me too. Come on now.

I was like, well, the Mormon church, they sent me a thick dossier about all the things that I could be doing for the Mormon community, like mowing people's lawns or buying their used goods. Was that the penny saver? Yes it was, it was. Oh, so he received a letter basically informing him, he is no longer part of the church.

And Andy's like, well, that recently, because you're crying, I could happen yesterday, he's like, no Andy, no Andy, it happened 10 years ago. And he's like, well, don't you usually have the chance to defend yourself? Listen, I fucked a lot of guys who ended up getting letters afterwards. All right.

Usually, they had a chance to go to Mormon court. All right. So didn't you get a chance to defend yourself, Bill Polman? And he's like, well, look, growing up Mormon, it's the worst letter you can get. And of course, Heather is like, this is about me, that one is softer than you. So Heather just starts making it all about herself down there, sobbing and making a scene. And Andy's trying to still keep it on Justin. He's like, so Justin, how did you get through it? And he's like, Andy, it was time floss lots of bleach and one cat.

Okay. And Andy's like, all right, Heather, is this upsetting to you? It's like, yeah, you know, I feel for them because it's my same story, Abby. I mean, I could get a letter too. I'm like, oh, now we're on the almost God of Mormon letter. Sorry, mine.

It's no longer almost cancer. It's almost God of letter. Hey, so Justin, how did you get through that again? Tell me. So no longer almost cancer. It's almost got a letter. Hey, so Justin, how did you get through that again? Tell me, it's like, yeah, it was so, it was so hard getting that letter from the Mormon church. And then, and then I looked and I saw my super hot wife with giant boobs on the stripper pole. And I was like, I'm good. I'm good. So Andy's, uh, Andy's like, so could you guys, you know, Heather's still sobbing over here.

Can't you just do it at home? I mean, it's religion, you know? Isn't it just like, isn't it just like CrossFit? Can't you just do it at home? And others like, Andy, it's hard, okay? It's really hard. And he's like, well, we've chosen a different path. And, you know, now we're just going with our own belief system. You know, I mean, it would be easier if they also sent you a tithing rebate without

letter. He's been using that joke for 10 years, by the way. So is the force unusual in the Mormon community? And they say it's not as common as it is outside of the church. And then leaves us like, um, well, John is divorced from his Rolex. He's ever Rolex. I threw it out of Taco Bell. Yeah.

If you see a little Chihuahua with a Rolex and you care about Taco Bell, that's John's. That's John's. Yeah. He was divorced and John's like, yeah, I'm so as my dad. He was divorced too. Oh, yeah, my whole family is divorced. You know, like I love him very divorced. And he's like, well, he was divorced too. Oh yeah, my whole family is divorced, you know, like I love them are divorced. And he's like, well, they're all Mormon.

I mean, why is it just Justin that got the letter? And Justin's like, cause we were both in other relationships when we got a divorce, you know? So I banged my secretary Andy, okay? I banged my secretary, we both left our families. Okay, that's why. And she's like, yeah, but it's okay to be divorced in the religion, it's not like you can't be divorced. And Heather's like, I disagree. Whatever.

I disagree. I'm gonna pull. I found some gum on my purse just to show how much I disagree. I found some gum. I disagree. I disagree. I disagree. That's right. I disagree. She's like, I mean, in the eyes of the church, I'm still married. It's like, okay, but you know what? You can cancel your ceiling, though. I'm like, no, I can't. I can't cancel my ceiling. I must have another worthy priesthood holder.

Okay, Heather. And Andy's like, could we get back to the ceiling? What the fuck is that? Whitney's like, why are we canceling seal? I love his music. No, Whitney. Something else. No, we're canceling seal? I love his music. No Whitney, something else. No, we're canceling the ceiling.

Okay Whitney. Yeah, but if you cancel the ceiling, then when it rains, you're gonna get wet in the kitchen. No Whitney. No Whitney. Hey, what's a seal? Huh? It's like, well, you can even get married in the church or you can get married for

eternity in the temple which is ironic because I used to be Jewish but this is a different temple so John and I were like sealed actually it's more like I'm sealed a diet coke and he's holding that a diet coke so by extension I'm sealed with him too. Basically, I'm a big gulp cop and he's Diet Coke. He's strong to seal. It's basically like Diet Coke and the original recipe. And if you ever try to change out that Coke recipe, people will be like, no, no, we're sealed to the original Coke recipe, right?

We're, we're Coke classic and Heather is new Coke. Okay, I just mirrored just new Coke. Okay, I just made her just new Coke. All right, nobody wanted it. So it's gone now. You know, like our seal, the one that we did in the temple, it's like a normal seal, but it's like the longest term seal you can get. So like, we're in like the longest term relationship feel.

And Heather is so mad. She's like, and she's like bouncing her foot up and down and just squinting. People are flying out of her purse. It's like bouncing her foot up and down and just squinting. Things are flying out of her purse. Like, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh. Commissions, here comes one right now. Celebrity beef, you never know if you're just gonna end up on TMZ or trending on Twitter or in court.

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Follow this and tell wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. And Andy's like, well, Robert Senior. And he's like, well, good afternoon! He's definitely all mad. He's like, so Robert, there's so much to talk about with your unconventional marriage and the background leading up to it. I hope you're hearing this coming out. This is the same.

Is that question again in five minutes? There's so much with that, you're crazy marriage. What do you want people to know that maybe they don't know or they don't understand about your granddaughter's life? He's like, I see it. If I see that grandfather junk, I'm gonna be so mad, Andy, I'm gonna be so mad, I'm so stupid, Andy, I'm stupid.

Get up the line, you get up, go down to a park. And Mary, gosh, you know, Mary is like trying to play mediator. It's definitely one of those uncomfortable things you see when someone's kind of like afraid of their spouse in a weird way. Like if she's trying to smooth things over for him,

like she doesn't want him to get upset, you know? So she's like, she's like, and he's upset. You know, he's not as strong as me. He's not as strong as me. Like, oh, Mary, beacon of strength over there. I mean, he's still back to him. Like, all mad shaking his fist. And do you know where we also saw this?

Do you remember Erica's first season, Erica Jane, when she had Lisa Vanderpump and Todd over to her house? It's like to double date with Tom and Catherine. Oh, I thought Catherine was there too. But no, she wasn't. Because Erica's the fourth Catherine. But yeah I thought Catherine was there too, but no, she wasn't because Erica's before Catherine. But um, yeah, so Erica was all nervous and she was like trying to be fun, but then Lisa was being nice to Tom and like getting a lot more time and then Erica was getting so

mad. And then Tom finally yelled at Eric and told her to go to her room. I mean, I'm in America, I'm coming around. I get it. It's like being married to a grumpy old guy, you know? That's what you're gonna get. And I get it in the sense that like, I'm always trying to smooth things over. I'm like, I don't like an uncomfortable situation. So I'm a smoother over as well. But I always just think it's weird when you see it

with like a spouse, because it's almost like, I don't know, like you shouldn't have to. Well, so I think it's just being, I think it's just being you see it with like a spouse because it's almost like, I don't know. Like you shouldn't have to. Well, so I think it's just being, I think it's just being married to an old person because old people don't give a fuck, you know? It's like you just give to the point. It's like when I go to dinner with my parents

and I just have to like, I wanna tie a rope to them and keep them at the table so they can't be like, wow, really? Why don't we get our food yet when everyone else got their food? It's not like you're busy it's like oh my god you can't you just can't stop them from saying whatever is gonna come out so anyway Mary is like just be nice be nice honey don't be embarrassing don't embarrass me

which is also very Erica from that night and so Robert's like And he's like so gonna stay with Robert cuz this is hilarious Robert. Who are you hesitant? When Mary said she wanted to join the show and he's like Yes, I was hesitant and I was very hesitant and she's like no you weren't you were not You were not a peasant. She could say what it was. It wasn't. I was like, it's not trying to gaslight him. Of course he was hesitant. You guys are running a scam.

You don't want to be on TV. So Robert, why were you hesitant? And he goes, because I knew everything that was going to happen. Everything that's happened, I knew that was going to happen basically. And she's like, no, no, no, no, no. We're coming together. It's positive. And me and Jen, we just made up.

How about that? How about that, huh? I love you. I love you. And he's like, fine. I love you too, but doesn't mean I can't voice my opinion. Yeah, and he's like, okay, I guess Mary's calling me down, Andy. Go ahead and ask her question. And so he's like, okay, Robert, there was so much talk about your marriage and the background leading up to it What do you want people to understand about banging your ex-wife's good granddaughter? Okay, how how else should I word this and he's like, okay? Well one thing they don't understand is they think we got married for the money anti money money money money

And the other thing is this granddaddy junk. I mean, I was 22 years old when I married mama, and it's very offensive. I'm like, okay, you were 22 years old. When you married her grandmother. Yeah. So, scamming older people is part of our family tradition, okay? That's what I have to say. I don't know what point he was trying to make with that,

but yeah, it definitely did not make it sound any less scammy. Like, it's like, okay, so you had your eye on the grandma's money for a long time. Okay, that makes sense. And they also were careful to put in the clips of the show where Mary said, oh yeah, honey, remember, when grandma put it in her will,

that she wanted us to get married, and he said, oh yes, she she wanted us to get married and he said, oh, yes, she really wanted us to get married. And they show Mary saying, you know, mowling the words that he's saying like they had practiced it beforehand. So that was the last week. She said it wasn't in the will. That's the fun part.

That's why they put it in there. It was very shady about it. That did. Yeah. But he's like, and so he's just started talking about how he doesn't like people messing with his wife and that she's like, and so he's just started to talk about how he doesn't like people messing with his wife and that she's a great mother and he loves her, but they have their ups and downs.

And you know, when you've been married for 22 years, like how in the world could you like, you know, like how could you still get along or I don't know what it was? He basically was saying like, we hate each other, but it's been 22 years. Of course we hate each other. Yeah, it's like, have you been married 22 years?

And he's like, gross, no. So and he's like, have you been married 22 years? And he's like, grouse now. So Andy's like, so what kind of first lady is she? And he's like, the best. But you know, Andy, she's more than the first lady. She's also a pastor. She's my equal, Andy. She's my equal. And she's like,

oh, Andy says, why are you crying, Mary? And she's like, because nobody knows me better. And go through, like, go through battleship Andy. I go through battleship. Okay. A lot of battleship Andy. And things weren't where I am and validate who I am. And for him to say, he's my equal.

When he's going to first I'm gonna get everything It's sweet, it's sweet, Andy. It's sweet and low to be his equal So Andy's like I love I go I do go through battleship Andy He doesn't sink my battleship. He lifts it up. So Andy's like, well, you know, it's kind of fun. I'm gonna try to like draw some meaning out of this. I'm not sure if I can, but here we go. Let's give this a try. Hey, Mary, if you and Jen had not gone also poorly,

it's almost like you guys could have been friends. It's like, yeah, that's usually the way friendship works. If you don't get up poorly, it'll probably become friends. Yeah, it was kind of a weird place to say it to. It's like, well, look, you know, Jen has a great husband. Mary has a crazy God, you guys should have been friends. It's like, what in that made you think that they should be friends?

It's all crazy. So Mary says, well, I'm in a place where I have to accept people and I never gave Jen that chance. Andy and he's like, well, Robert, what was it like to watch the Discord with Jen? And he's like, well, it was tough, Andy, but she's a tough little sister. I'll give her that.

And Andy's like, now, sane? Who's sane? Shaw. Coach-Shaw. Coach-Shaw. And he's like, well, it hurts, but, you know, I told her at the very beginning,

I'm not here to engage in any fight with the woman on TV and it hurts when my wife has attacked because when she cries I cry and I said you're gonna have to come from a real place to seek a level of forgiveness and Cleansing that people will reciprocate towards you, Jen Yeah, and then he's like, oh coach, well you'd you'd be, well, you'd be my coach and by coach, I mean, late night lover. Yeah. So he's like, by the way, and big Robert, if I may patronize these women for a moment, I just want to say that what my wife did.

Oh, man, I said, baby, that's unacceptable. I don't care what she may have said. I said, you can't talk about people's marriages. And I said, we can't denigrate to said, we can't generate to that kind of talk. Okay. And so I apologize for her, because she's a simple woman, and she can't do it herself. And that wasn't my wife in that heat of the moment.

It was just my baby, baby, baby, happening there. Okay. And hopefully she'll get a chance to demonstrate who she really is. And he's like, you don't have anything to worry about. but maybe do-bibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibibib Yeah, I didn't like that at all. It felt, it was fucked up. I didn't like it at all. And Jen's just sitting there, like Jen literally scrunches in her chair, like a little kid in front of the principal's office and just kind of nod. Yeah, they're just kind of like, she's in trouble. It's like when you get into, it's like when you,

it's like when you were a kid and get into a fight with your friend and then the parents had to be like, okay, what do you wanna say? Ben, what do you wanna say to Ronnie? She's mean. Ben. I'm sorry. Like that's what it felt like.

Yeah, when the parents talk like, I'm so sorry that Ronnie punched your, your child in the face, you know, I'm going to talk to him. He's not going to come out of his room for a week. I'm turning off the cable. I'm changing the lock from the inside to the out so I can lock him in and he can't get in there.

And we're not like little debbies from the grocery store all week long So you breast stirred he's being taken care of So Andy's like well sounds like there's a double date in the future in my ride everyone in my right and everyone's like So then we move on to Whitney's dad and he's like it was so brave of her dad on to Whitney's dad and he's like it was so brave of her dad open up a mountain of action and she's like yeah well I currently don't know where he is he is no longer speaking to me and he's to go roth that's roth that's roth that's like John's Rolex we don't know where it is it has not speaking to us I'll tell

you what is speaking to us dire coke mind if I go get one thank you thank you is it bad to mention coke during the segment. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm really glad you speak. Quiet what she says is is go back to your own show to Lisa. She's not speaking to you because of the show. I'm saying, well, after the show, you know, we had built back a beautiful foundation and we were communicating. He even saw me for my birthday, Andy, but then he disappeared and now he will not respond. And I imagine just watching this together and celebrating,

but there's so many chances for him to change, especially now. And Andy's like, people were really rooting for him. She's like, yeah, but I want them to still root for him because he needs love. And this was very sad. So I guess Whitney's dad just kind of fell back to his old ways, I'm guessing.

Usually that's what it means when people just turn your calls. Yeah, I mean, usually we have to imagine that me, like one scenario is that maybe he fell back and maybe he's like mortified because this was all on TV and people were rooting for him. So maybe there's pressure on him, who knows? It is all very sad and it's like a,

it was really just like, I felt so bad for Whitney, that's just gotta be the hardest thing, and hey, does your dad wear a wig, by the way? No, that's his hair. It's just kinda funny, like that was, like admittedly, I think we were all thinking that, but it was just kind of a,

it was curious timing on that question My dad is probably back on test or and was that a wig She's like no was his hair. He's like all right. Well, we've got a call We just got in a tweet from someone named wig McWiggerson saying thank you for saying it was my hair Whitney I will call you later. Wait a second, there's a picture of him here, there's a picture of him here, and he is, oh, he's singing some sort of show tunes about ringing them bells. Oh wait, Liza Manelli, my bad, my bad.

Anyway, we're all rooting for him. And let's talk about some people who we really aren't rooting for, Meredith and Seth. All right, you two, what's going on? Okay, Meredith, do you want to write yourself? You're sort of out of 45 degree angle right now. I'm gonna get some gauge with that question, Andy. I'm not gonna, why would I talk about being out of better angle

in front of this group of people, Andy? Like, Andy, we are fantastic, Andy. That, amy, we are fantastic, amy. That's how we're doing. He's like, uh, well, you're saying it and kind of a tilted head, shaky kind of a way. So, yeah, I want to why when I discuss it in front of these people, right now, sorry, sorry. That's an elegant way of saying sorry, is I'm elegant?

I'm a elegant one here, okay? Then we got a commercial and we get Wayne and Garth as old people for Uber Eats. I don't need this commercial in my life, okay? This was the most odd, this was some awkward shit, okay? I don't need this and let's marry is gonna marry both of these guys and show up with them next season, I don't need this.

Take back your Uber Eats commercial, please. My commercial was actually married with herself, talking about Colgate. She was like, and I love getting older, but as I'm getting older, I'm having gum issues, so I use Colgate, and then I realized it was Brook Shields instead. So it's a real commercial. It does look just like her, right?

Yes, she's got some Brook Shields in her. Yeah. So, we come back and he's like, so there were reports that you filed for divorce before filming, but then you withdrew it. That is true. And elegant. Yes, that's true. You know, as I've said, we've separated multiple times.

We've had a tumultuous marriage, mainly because as a terrible person and very annoying, just listen to him say, hey, Seth, what's the weather like over there? The weather in Canton is the finest weather in the world. See, like what I'm dealing with. Of course, it was tumultuous. Well, I've talked to countless couples who have come together because of the show or grown apart because of the cameras so Also a few that were thrown off balconies by the Russian mob, but you know what we'll go there later What was the effect on you? I just love that it was those are the only choices you've get What's come out of Bravo in the past 10 years is like horrifying, you know, and also what was I would like to know were the

Examples of column a the couples that came together because of the show can't see so Cecil oh, yeah, yeah Probably no because they made up on camera. Yeah, Cecil and Simone made up on camera. Yeah, and Yeah, probably no one because they made up on camera. Yeah, I see some Simone made up on camera. Yeah. And That's probably that's that's that's why Andy Loes Merit medicine. It's like his redemption show because you know, it's like Evergreen union. It's like he's trying to bring people together. He's like, Quad and Gregory, the ones that got away. Well, I think that Seth and I went both and green that the show helped same arm marons, you

know, you have to address things. You can't just sleep among other rot. If the toilet brains, you actually have to answer when he asks you 10 times in a row. Are you cooking something? Are you cooking something? In many ways. In many ways. In many ways. It's almost like the proverbial lid is off the proverbial blender right now

This okay everything is out and exposed and splashing everywhere and our son is complaining nonstop about it Okay, that's what this show is done for us So you're basically saying it makes you take accountability and stuff like the show put threads back into the marriage of a threadless marriage Andy. So you're saying is your marriage is hanging by a thread? I got it. Yes. Because they're they show different stuff in the previews for this. Did you notice that? They know one thing they showed in the preview was Andy saying so how's your marriage now? A Meredith goes not good and then another thing was when he was asking Whitney about her dad He said is your dad okay, and and the previous she said I'm just hoping this show didn't break him You're right. Maybe that's on secrets revealed

Maybe but they kept re-editing everything so it was tricky to watch it So Meredith admitted to getting laid. Did you get laid to sad? What about you? And it's like Not really not really fuck kind of answer is that yeah That's a Carl from summer house answer if I was like he's like I never got over answer if I was like he's like I never got over Marineth for many years I was self-absorbed in my work whatever that work is but it takes me to Canada and it involves TJ Maxx anyway I was so involved my work and so involved being a great dad and I didn't work on my marriage I guess I was too good of a dad and

too good of a provider it's all my fault of a provider. It's all my fault. What can I say? It's all my fault I was like this is passive aggressive. I he's trying to like sound like he's falling on the sword But he's actually complimenting himself massively. Yes Well landed from loser town as a I want to know did seven married if turn Brooks against you by talking about the marriage? Um, to know Brooks Marx is to love Brooks Marx. He is the sweetest human being I know, but admittedly, I really only know my wife and my son.

So, that's my answer. Brooks Marx is the kind of guy who will eat chicken nuggets on a vegan buy and Andy. We love Brooks. Okay, and I will say nothing bad about him. He is my best little buy. I mean, my best little guy. God, he loves going to that store. You know what, Andy, to all the people out there who don't have sweat suits, Brooks will teach you how to steal one. Alright, Andy. He is a good kid. He is a very good kid. If you are a member of the Genius Squad and you see Brooks marks roaming the store, looking

for any sort of electric toy or video game, please introduce yourself. He is the sweetest guy you will ever meet. I'm saying that right now to all the best by employees truly truly. So Andy's like well your reconciliation came pretty fast. It's like it was bad all season and then boom you're together. Didn't feel like that to anyone else unless it's like for me it's not like for other. I mean like I can't even watch that without crying because I got so upset. It's like when they got rid of a bean and cheese burritos that talk about. It was horrible, Andy. Okay, you know what?

Did that, uh, and Andy's like, well, did that time seem odd to you? Lisa didn't seem weird, I'm sorry. No, you know what? I'm gonna cry right now. I'm just really happy to stand together and have this like, oh really? You always say the word is no know big deal but you're so emotional over this you always say it's not a big deal I mean that's what I feel what she's feeling the vortices and tears me while I'm by like Heather this is your distorted

entire archivist is it about you she's she wasn't this is not her saying that she that she's against divorce because she wants them to be together It means that she knows them and that she has a good relationship with them She loves them together as it doesn't No big deal She doesn't say divorce is no big deal. She said it's not that big of a deal to get divorced in the church Is right like you allowed to get divorced because there's a perception that you can't get divorced in the church. Right. Like you're allowed to get divorced. That was the question. Because there's a perception that you can't get divorced in Mormonism. And she's saying, no, it's actually allowed.

As long as you're not sealed to die, cock. But like now, have I said, Mary has got her sad little moment in the reunion. Yeah, I mean. God, she can't handle it when it's about anybody else. Like Meredith has done nothing but sit there and bob her head Can you just give the woman a moment to try and sell a goddamn track suit? Yeah, not when they screw I don't sell triceps with this group

So Lisa's like I never discounted your divorce. I never judged you for your divorce I never felt anything other than like I don't dismiss it I just I don't have these kind of conversations with you Like I don't judge a divorce. I judge you being a good time girl. And that's really it. I love that. I love that for you Listen Jane. I did not dismiss anything about you So I hope you have a wonderful life and say my name is not Jane And you said the force is no big deal. You just dismiss it like nothing. I'm hurting. I am hurting and when I'm Struggling and I'm not trying to be a victim, you know, but you know, let's be honest. The force is devastating for people and to say it's not

It's really hard. I'm crying And then they both talk over each other. I'll be Lisa. You can be Heather. Okay. I Totally understand oh And then they both talk over each other. I'll be Lisa, you can be Heather, okay? I totally understand. Oh yeah, I totally understand. I don't feel like we're at Sansi with things that are directed towards something I love. I can't be a glass, or a grand drink, dot, kind of look, I'm like, gonna talk about,

and I have fresh wolf, like don't you have fresh wolf? All wolves should be married and sealed for eternity I'm sealed to talk us together. I became a breeder sealed and have a So then Then just put Heather ruins another person segment because Andy doesn't even go back to Meredith Well, I guess I'll try to because he goes, don't you think it's hypocritical to say you stand for loyalty, but then you go talk

about Meredith's marriage and Jen goes, you know what, I'm not even gonna talk about their marriage, Andy, because they're back together. So it's a moot point. Okay, it's a moot point. Well, nice try, Jen. Nice try, Jen. I'm sure Andy is just going to move on. I'm sure I'm sure there aren't like 50 questions for this. He's like, well, it's not a

mood point and it's a huge part of the show. So I'm going to do that thing where I'm going to trail off and you're supposed to understand that I'm the executive producer asking you a question right now. So, okay, well, look, there were other things that happened that people didn't see and I'm the one who took the brunt of all of that, you know, and I think the other ladies had a part in it. We all did. I did. I did it.

I didn't take a part in it. I did not. I did not. I did not. I didn't either. And she's like, okay, well not you guys, but they did, okay, Andy, they did. And he's like, well, there were things you knew you discussed, but now that they're back together,

you feel their moot points. And then we see the clip of her working out with Whitney going, I mean, I hear that she's with somebody else, and if you're not getting it at home, you're gonna find it somewhere else. Yeah, and we see Seth's eyes bulging on his like screen and Jen is just like, I just don't feel like we should discuss this now that they're back together, okay? And then coach Shaw's like, I was hurt from my wife. I thought she really enjoyed Meredith, and so for their relationship to spiral to this point it was it was hurtful Du Du Du Du Du my heart is like

What a bizarre answer your wife started this whole thing and it's now refusing to answer So she doesn't get in trouble with you who's now making her the victim to what the hell? So and he's like well you were all kind of talking about it. No, no, we're not going to make this an equal thing. They were not all talking about it. Jen came in with this, dropped the shit on TV, and they were talking about the fact that Jen said it. They weren't all walking around saying it, the discussion was same, but saying, let's not make all sense equal on this one. Yeah, they're never going to get sealed like that. No, it's kind of sealed, unsealed, signed, unsealed and undelivered. So yeah, because Heather, I mean Heather talked about it,

but like it was just in the context of, I hear there's something. I don't wanna talk about it. Right. She said I don't wanna talk about it. I'm not gonna talk about something. Right, and Whitney is like, I just was getting to know Meredith.

So I just was asking questions, you know, because I wanted to get to know her and she just didn't wanna talk about it basically. And so Jen's like, I'm sorry Meredith and Seth, I should never have engaged in this type of conversation, but you made me do it. They are, you made me do it. So Seth is like, hmm, he's like person who's lips.

And Meredith's like, thank you. Thank you. So Jen starts crying. She's like, okay, I'm sorry to all of you. I mean Robert senior, I am sorry. He's like, uh, don't worry. Where are we? What are we talking about? He's like, that's okay. As if you didn't come on, you're so angry before like, oh this show is so, a lot of things that people said, uh, stupid, grandfather of fun, stupid, oh it's fine. It's fine. Yeah, I made up with your husband, which is the only really important part here, okay?

Yeah. The men are getting along, so the rest of you could just keep squabbling. So, Jen is like, well, Seth and Meredith, I never came from a place of like trying to hurt anybody. I mean, I've been super hurt with the distance, you know? I mean, Heather's my best friend, so I talked to her about it. You didn't talk to Heather about it. You talked to Whitney about it.

Whitney who you apparently hate, so. Yes. And she's like, and I mentioned it, but it was not of trying to hurt you. Which is bullshit, of course. And Mary's like, well, listen, I think that when you get upset, you mean, like, no, you get, you're cruel, but you're, you're basically, you're, you're a fighter no, you get your cruel, but you're basically your fighter, your fighter, and you fight with words, but then when you're done fighting, then you try to not

fight, but then the damage is done. So I'm gonna take a map now. Yeah. All right, okay, you husband, you can all leave now. I'm sick of looking at Seth over there. It's really distracting. now I'm sick of looking at Seth over there. It's really distracting. Okay, so Whitney took a gamble by inviting the women to see in city, but then Jen doubled down what some old issues, and then things quickly went bust. And I said, oh crap, let's go poker some strippers. And on top of that, And on top of that, I met a black person named Jack and I ate a pie and I said, go, but I really meant to say, pie, wow. There we go. I was so full, I wanted my mom, John. All right, let's move on.

I listened to some music by Bert Baccarat. Tuh, tuh. Yeah, they really went there with that whole thing. So we see the Vegas stuff, the Vegas fight, and then, you know, there are a couple things because we're going into the heavier section here, I guess. But there are a couple things that I have to agree with Jen with before we even get into this whole thing because I don't agree with her Mostly, but this whole thing after the Vegas fight and we see clips of Whitney going, I don't feel safe right now And then and we said this at the time too, but just to reiterate you know and then them saying that Jen was so violent that she was threatening to murder with me

That's all bullshit. That's bullshit. And so when Jen gets mad and she says that that is total white lady gas lighting, that is like total white lady privilege gas lighting, agreed 100%. I think both those girls are little bitches for doing that. And I felt it at the time and it's gross to watch again. I don't feel safe here. With this camera crew, that's around me.

And you can see no that has cameras everywhere. I don't feel safe here. With this camera crew, that's around me. In a casino that has cameras everywhere, I don't feel safe because I heard that before. Or when Jen went like that and had us like, well, don't hit me. Well, actually, I think it's okay to be like, hey, don't hit me because it wasn't like a hit. Like it wasn't like a punch, but like someone's,

I could imagine, hey, don't hit me, you know? But then it became, shhh, it means she is so aggressive. I mean, she was being feisty and she was being annoying and she was being loud and ridiculous, but, you know, well, we're about to get all into it. So we'll get into it. Yeah, I was just mentioning that now because that was in the clips, you know.

So Andy's like, so Jen, you were in charge of the fun committee and had it like, now, CEO a fun Andy. Let me just look here in my sell getting bag here. And I found it. Oh, wait, no, sorry, that's just some, I thought this was my car saying a mixture. It's actually just a piece of extra gum.

So, so hey, first I got to ask about your mask, what inspired that ridiculous thing? And she's like, well, it was meant to be funny and fun because I think we can all agree that the funniest person on this cast is me, right? Varyl of Lafes Meredith, that's what we all call me, right? And it was a prophecy Andy, I'm Mormon royalty, so I know about prophecies.

And that was before COVID, Andy, so. Yeah, wow. So yeah, cause they, so actually, what's funny is that they wrapped right before lockdown. And that is, and we were supposed to go to Salt Lake City right during that time. So we could have been on this show, not really. So why was Jen still mad about Whitney when you went to Vegas?

So Jen's like, okay, let me give you my prepared bullshit response. She apologized for bringing something up at Shreef's party, but then it's like, she did say that people who you think are your friends, are like not your friends, and it's like, did say that people who you think are your friends or like not your friends and it's like is forgiving hard for you. No, but I just need closure and she just is like basically saying that she's only for part of what it was. This is all bullshit. She said she apologized for doing it at the location and the time that she did it.

But she didn't apologize for the whole thing. And then she said, people were talking about me. So I wanted to find out what was happening. And he's like, well, at dinner when Jen was yelling, Whitney, you were surprised. And she's like, yeah, I was shocked because I felt like I had bullet adjudged when Lisa and I made up, you know, and then going to Vegas, I just wanted it to all work out. And Andy's like, so Andy's like, all right, who here feels that they show loyalty to Jen,

but they don't feel it back? And everyone raises their hand, of course, except for Lisa. Right, this is like this. And she's like, thanks Lisa. Which is just so cold, because then we get into how hurtful it was to have that psychic be like everybody raise their hand and hand is doing the same thing. Can I just ask a simple yes or no question?

Can I just ask that? Jen, if I treated you the way you treated me as an elegant lady. Would you feel that I was a loyal friend to you? Yes or no? And she's like, no, thank you, the defense rest. I thought you were gonna say yes, I was gonna argue with you, but I don't really know where to take it from here because you kind of beaten yourself.

No, but I will add a butt because no, but it wasn't just me, it was everybody. And when you was like, well, I guess it was a group effort then, she was, I just wanna move then, I just want to move on. Yeah, you want to move on. Of course you want to move on. But when he fucks up, always wants to be the one who moves on, you know?

Always. Yeah. So then Meredith is like, I just have the question. And I want to move on, okay. And then he's like, all right, well Meredith, you were upset that Lisa didn't choose a side. She was like, I did not. Did not.

I don't choose the side that's just I That Did not I don't choose sides. I just have Brooks choose the sides and then yell at them. That's all So I was just expressing you know that you got confirmation that she trained me and then you're still friends with her And if you wanted to be friends with her I had to back away and which is not making her choose. I ain't any end. I just said if you're friends with Jen you don't get one of these cool masks that I brought. I brought two. We're gonna start like kind of a blue man group thing called speckle faced women and

she just missed out on that opportunity. That's it. So are you hurt by their friend, Jim Meredith? And she's like, I don't say heart, but I don't care about Mandy. It's like a blender with a lid on, I don't get it. Well, after the party, Jenna apologizes. And Heather's like, yeah, I mean, Jen said we hung out till 3 a.m. It was really fun.

You know, the hard part about Jen Shaw, Andy, is that she's as fabulous part about Jen Shaw, Andy, is that she's as fabulous as she's horrifying, Andy. You know, and I wanna be friends with her. I just don't wanna eat shit the whole time. I feel like I ate shit. I feel like I ate shit. Oh, I'm sure you do feel that way, Jen.

But you haven't, okay? Like, I just am like really bothered by all the lobeblow things that Jen does and that she's brought up. Like, she buys, like, like she says things like, oh, she buys off the rack at dress barn. Oh, she thinks she's an actress. The only role she's gonna get is Manatee or Shrek,

which did that happen on Twitter. She said that because when she said the dress barn thing, I was like, oh, has she been listening to our podcast? But I'm pretty sure we'd never said anything about a manatee or a shrek. Right, that didn't jump from us. We don't do that. So then, yeah, I think this was the stuff

she was saying on social media. So this stuff is really low blows, right? So she says that and then Jen just, she flares her nails and then just looks around. She's like, And Andy's like, well, you're just, because you're just reacting to stuff. You're just reacting to stuff, right?

That's it. I'm telling you, it's because of something. I don't remember why I said it, but it was because of something. That's what I'm telling you that. I'm telling you that. So, it's like, well, a big moment was it to hypnotist when she said, like I just did, whoever doesn't trust Heather, raise her hands and whoever doesn't trust Jen razor hands Okay, remember that part and just like well

I raised my head because remember when we were at the hot springs and you expressed your feelings and I you know What like I had no idea that you were mad at me and I told you if you're mad at me express your feelings I mean you should have come to me and said I don't like being called a manatee and then I would have been like oh my god I'm so sorry. But because you didn't tell me, you don't like being called a manatee, I don't think I can trust you. Yeah.

So we heard my feelings that you weren't able to tell me that like being called a manatee is shrek. Meanwhile, Mary's now just, she puts her head in her hand like this. She's like, I'm so gonna sleep now. She just starts falling asleep. Yeah. So they're just bickering and bickering. had her hand like that she's like, I'm just gonna sleep that. She just starts falling asleep. So they're just bickering and bickering.

And Lisa's even Lisa's sort of like stifling a lot of yaw on the cut to where she's like, mm, I love that. Mm-hmm. And then Jen is like, I said, Heather, talk to me. I said, Heather, talk to me. So then Andy of course sees Mary asleep at the end of the reunion and he goes,

hey Mary, what was your opinion on not trusting Heather And he of course sees Mary asleep at the edge of the reunion and he goes, Hey Mary! What was your opinion on not trusting Heather knowing how loyal Heather had been to her? And Mary's like, What? What? What? What? Uh, uh, uh, Yep, that's, it was in the will.

It's in the will. It's in the will. Did you fall asleep Mary? She's like, uh, no. I don't think I did, but I heard your question. I heard your question And he's like, really? What was my question? She's like, uh, you wanted to know how I felt about raising hands when Mary and she repeats I'm perfect. Yeah, she does. Actually came back. One of, I have a question for you guys, is it 4 p.m. or 4 a.m. right now?

I'm a little disoriented, not because I fell asleep, just asking for a friend. So, so Jenna's back now and she's like, you know what, in Vegas? Yeah, I was wrong. I was wrong, but I went back to streets. I went back, mentally, to streets party, because everyone decided to use his party as a platform

To talk about whatever when we all know it was a platform to get a free party at Topgolf for TV And then you came in to visit me and like you said all the ladies were talking about you And I had to like defend you and I was like what's going on like and then and then we went to this hypnotist And like the second I walked in to see this lady, she was like, you're a bully, don't talk. And I was like, I thought it was Renee Russo. Do you know what it's like when Renee Russo makes fun of you and you idolize her?

It was hard, it was hard. Yeah, and that was pretty bad, that fucking hypnotist just being like, really? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, quiet, quiet, quiet. Yeah, I think that we didn't really see it from the, sorry to interrupt. I think at that time, we didn't really see it from Jen's point of view, because Jen had actually been

very annoying and awful on that trip. So when she walked in, and the hypnotist was like, blah, blah, blah, blah, quiet, it was kind of felt like, I'm glad someone's like, like, she's been so awful that someone's sort of like calling her out a little bit like a neutral party. But now hearing it from Jen's perspective, I actually am like, I can understand why that it's actually was not great.

Well, because that lady didn't know her, you know? Yeah. But at the same time, Jen's retelling of everything is just such bullshit. It's such bullshit. It's like, okay You guys did this at my husband's party, but then I out of fit ruin the party and through glass You know, it's like she she makes herself the victim so that she never has to answer for anything and she doesn't the whole time She does it every time. It's not like I'm making any huge statement here, right?

You're making others like well, you know How was I different from all the others that day at the hip-na-test everybody answered the same way I did and she's like, well, you know, how was I different from all the others that day at the Hittin' a Test? Everybody answered the same way I did. And she's like, because I care more about you, dummy, you're my friend, okay? Yeah. Like, there's only one Shrek. You know what I mean? Like, everybody in the movie can't be Shrek or Shrek's not special.

Right. So now Jen is basically saying, like after Vegas, she was all alone and everyone labeled her and she was fucking devastated and she's as a woman of color, it means something when you're told, like don't talk. And if you try to talk, they say you're a bully. And then we see footage of the hypnotist saying, like, well, they see you as a bully

and I can tell by the way they look. And, you know, I can see that there's strategy involved in what you're talking. So like I get that, like I think that, like, you know, I can see that there's strategy involved in what you're talking. So like I get that, like I think that, like, you know, I think, you know, walking into an environment and someone who doesn't know you is like letting everyone talk but not you, I can see how that would for sure like be a very triggering thing.

And she's like to be told you're a piece of shit for four and a half hours straight. I mean, come on you guys, like I walk in and that's all I hear for four and a half hours and she goes,, come on you guys. Like I walk in and that's all I hear for four and a half hours. And she goes, that took me back 40 years. I have PTSD. And Andy's like, what if these ladies don't make you feel marginalized?

And she's like, I mean, telling me I'm aggressive before things even happen. I'm like, it's like, just fighting it while she's yelling, you know? And I was like, well, you are aggressive. You're being aggressive right now. And she's like, that is hurtful to make accusations.? And I was like, well, you are aggressive. You're being aggressive right now. And she's like, that is hurtful to make accusations. Like, I mean, you said I threatened your life

and there's a woman of color. There's much more chance of me going to prison. Right. Yeah, she's saying, you know, like it's the thing that we, that, you know, like calling women of color aggressive is a very loaded comment, right? And so then Whitney goes, but you threatened my life, Janet. I'm like, no, okay, Whitney. This is the problem because she didn't threaten your life. She was cracking a joke.

And I was told you from Heather, you didn't even hear it. Heather told it, but Heather brought it back as almost like it was verbatim. And do you really think Jen Shaw wants to bury you, like, wants to actually, like, actively kill you and bury you in her lake, and she's gonna declare it on national TV. Do you really think that? You really think that?

That was stupid. When he's like, it's on camera. She actually said, if you tell anyone, I will bury you in the lake behind your house, and then we see the clip of it. And she says that and Heather's like, oh yeah, she said she'll just kill her and bury you in the lake behind your house and then we see the clip of it and she says that and Heather's like Oh, yeah, she said she'll just kill her and bury her in the back And Lisa goes Lisa goes well, I say I'm gonna slip my wrists all the time

Just like you know you guys say Jen Shaw is gonna cut somebody and then they'll throw me in handcuffs. I mean there is a double standard Yeah, okay, obviously yes, there is a double standard. I don't think anybody's gonna argue with that. But Jen, I mean, I'm so on. Well, I mean, there, I mean, I think in this situation, oddly enough, Jen is more than right than Whitney, but they are like,

Jen is discounting the fact that she wasn't asshole, but then the other women are discounting the fact that she wasn't asshole, but then the other women are discounting the fact that Jen has very real triggers. So it's great, this is what we tune in for. So. Yeah, it's never better than when everybody's wrong at the same time, you know? It like releases you from having to choose

any kind of aside. So then Mary is like, Mary now is like, well I know Jen has been cruel, but you do get this vibe from when you didn't have, and Heather, it's like it's embedded, that they're better, you know, they're better than people of color. And Heather's like, why privilege?

I get it, I totally get it. But you're my girl, so let's talk about it. Don't make an innuendo on Instagram, okay? And so Jen is like, I'm not here to fucking tell you something, because I'm not asking you to educate me. I just don't want you to slander me on social media either. And she's like, I'm trying to tell you something. So then, then Heather's like,

well, when have I marginalized you, babe? When? When? Which is, her tone is already, like it's already discounting whatever Jen has to say, so it's already not a very open environment. It is, Jen's bringing this up to get, it's like, Jen is going, she's going as extreme as she can to get herself out of the situation.

And again, it works. It's like she makes herself the biggest victim and never has to answer for any of that shit. It's like over, you know? Even though she has some valid points, I mean, the point she's making, no one's gonna argue with, like you can't make a valid argument, they get so spons, but this particular situation is about how you were acting in Vegas

and you're just like an asshole. So for anything, yeah, you were acting like an asshole. Yeah, so I guess that, I guess it's more of a aggressive, no, they should know better. And then when you have to tell somebody, you don't call a woman of color aggressive, and then they argue with you. And then they kind of like comes arcastically.

I mean, I think that's like she was acting like an asshole but I guess the whole thing is that when they see her act like when maybe when a white person is acting like an asshole they don't call them aggressive and all that stuff. There's a lot of stuff, there's a lot of loaded stuff going on here and it's all coming to the surface over this video's fight. So Heather is, so Jen's like, I'm not pointing fingers at you and Heather's like, well, it feels pretty targeted. It feels pretty targeted. I'm like,

okay, so now Heather has made herself the victim. So this is exactly everything wrong, right? Like, here it is, like a woman of color is telling you, this is how, when you said those things, it made me feel this way because of a history of X, Y, and Z. And you elevated me being, I was just being an asshole, but you elevated me to this tier, right? And now Heather is like, you're accusing me. So now she is the victim. She is the victim here, which is like,

well yeah, Senate becomes the white ladies become the victims, right? Because then Meredith try and send you, you know what, I don't see anyone here denies white privilege, but making an accusation that someone is racist, especially in this environment is, and Jen's like, exactly, can I finish? I'm I'm like wow so now you're telling her to shut up I just want everyone to know that one thing that I've learned in

2020 is that we have to listen to voices There's a white woman telling you about this Can I just finish? It's terrible to accuse someone of being a racist. Some would argue it's actually worse than being a racist. Am I right, ladies? Am I right? Yeah, that's what it sounded like.

And, just like what? I think her heart was in the right place. I mean, look at me. Now look at me. I'm making excuses for Meredith. I just think that she didn't realize like, oh, no, this is not something sound right. Either way.

So that Jen's like, I didn't want to get into this because it's a painful and you do not even know. And then she gets up and storms off sobbing, of course, because it's Jen. So she's like, who got my husband? And then Whitney calls her guy. And she's like,

Oh, hey, are you still there? I mean, the racist accusation just came up. And then so she's talking to her husband on the phone while Jen is talking to coach Shaw and she's sobbing and she's like, they don't understand this. I don't understand how painful it is. And um, she's like, it's so hard to sit there and they're going in on me. And I'm like, this is one of the issues here. I'm telling you how I felt and you don't know me because you're not black and your family isn't black. She's conflating all of the issues into one thing

so she doesn't have to answer for the main issues of the thing. I mean, even though she's right about the other issues that she's taking in. I don't know. I mean, what she is saying is fully valid. And like I think, I understand why she's absolutely frustrated, right? But I think she also has screwed the fact that she wasn't asshole in Vegas.

But that's what this is all about. Like, why were you such an asshole in Vegas? You said you were over it, and then you weren't, and then you act like a crazy person at dinner, and then you ran off, and then you said you were leaving. But then you were back. Why were you being such a crazy person? And obviously, these triggers happened during that process

and they're completely valid and completely real. But let's not forget, you were also being an asshole, so can you please explain yourself? On top of everything else. And also, ladies, can you be quiet when we are? We are explaining all this stuff, too. Right, she said at one point, she's like, you know, we're in Vegas and then I'm looking forward

to having this good day, we're going to the psychic and then Heather's there telling me that everyone's mad at me and I'm like, what? What do you think, Jen? Like what do you, what do you fucking, like she was totally shocked and she couldn't believe that anyone was mad at her? I think actually what is also interesting

is that she thinks that Heather telling her how she, like, like, actually opening up to how she feels about something is actually being distrustful. I think that is actually something that needs to be looked at because that's not right. That's like if she, if she, there is associating trust with like a most like, like, being able to say every single thing that's on your mind at all all moments, that's a little fucked up too.

I don't know if that's what anything you were talking about, but that's something that I thought about right now. So yeah, but it's still I my heart did actually kind of break for her a little bit when she was saying like what she was fighting for so many years, it's like right here in my own circle. I think that's probably a very regardless of how we got to this discussion, that's a very, I think, devastating emotional thing to feel. You know?

So, so now she's like sobbing in Coach Shaw's arms, and then she like goes back out on stage, and she's like, okay, I'm back. That's a way. Yeah, she totally is. She's like, she comes back and he's like, oh, what are you feeling? She's like, okay, everybody, listen, coach Sean knows,

we've lived through this all. You know, and it's painful for my family and my loved ones. And he told me not everyone's gonna get it, and he's right. So, you know what, if we're gonna make change, then I just have to be calm. And you guys growing up in Utah, you wouldn't know, Mary does, but the movement made it possible for people to listen more.

And Heather's like, oh yeah, I've learned more in the past year. I'm so into that. I championed that. I do whatever I can to listen now. I do anything, anything. Jen, I'm speaking. Okay, I'm speaking. I just love being able to listen now.

And then they cut to Meredith's face and she's just like. Learn. Oh my god. What? So then, um, well, I guess this was a success because Mary and Jen had some common ground. Robert Senior and Coach Shobb seemed cool. Okay. So when did everybody learn Lisa?

You know what I learned? I love that. That know what I learned? I love that, that's what I learned, I love that. I love that. I love me loving that. I love me loving boom chairs. I, you know, you know, interspcial chairs. I love a Doritos shell on a taco. That's actually what my hands are orange right now.

Cause when I went to go find the Rolex, I accidentally found a Doritos shell and it was delicious, but I didn't get a chance to watch my hands off. So that's why this is like that. And then I touch John's face, explains everything. I love that about me. Love that. And Mary's like, I learned that sometimes saying things

I say can sometimes be offensive. So I need to convey more how I tune in to see how more that that's conveyed. And me. And Jen's like, I need to convey more how I tune in to see how more that that's conveyed. And Jen's like, I need to work on my communication and making sure my group of friends feel that they can come to me and trust me and not feel threatened or afraid. And then I will use that information when they come to me and tell it to other friends. That's what I've learned. I have learned to have better timing and delivery and to own my own voice and

When I speak I will purpose with speak. Oh, I need to work that one. I need to work on my delivery Because at the end of the day, it's not delivery. It's Dejorno. Wait. No, no that's not it andy can I do it again well I just wanted to say I last year last winter I treated every single woman here with respect and I don't feel that I was given the same respect that I give and I will say Heather and Whitney called me to apologize But Jen tonight was the first time I heard a genuine apology from you and I appreciate that But apologies do not make things go away and I will move forward but trust Means to be urged. Like, I will. So now you're the biggest victim here.

I want to forgive you and I want to forget you. Okay, you know what you did. You know you did. Are you just quoting the Hills Meredith, but hang out with Brooks a lot. A lot of Brooksie time. We were on a break. You got to be, all right, that's friends.

That's please. So this break is a break. Yeah, all right. That's friends. Please. So this break is a break up. That's Jeremy Glyer. Great movie. Great movie. That's for Seth. I know I'm not the best mother in the world. Give me a little credit, will you?

I'm for trying the best swing. I know. I know. You complete me. We're back to getting the choir again. Mechagery. What you've done to me has already been done to you. Okay, where it color purple is time to wrap this up guys. I could have done more.

I could have done more. That's Jimler's list. It's a great film. You shall watch it. Then what did Heather learn right when I thought Meredith has learned the least Because Meredith literally just tried a last ditch effort to make herself the biggest victim of the reunion So then Heather speaks up. It's just Well, I hope that I've learned to speak up and not hold back Oh, okay, Heather. Thank you, I think you have.

I've also learned I need a bigger pocket book. It's just funny, this one's so small, I can't seem to find anything in it, but I think I need a larger one anyway. So Andy's like, okay, well, I got some good news. I know you all love meeting Utah based on Heather like in the meatball. So we got meatballs, okay, like in the meatball.

So we got meatballs. Okay, we have a meatball toast. Okay, let's toast to a great, sorry, this is going to be for who's going to say Jen. Jen, do you have a meatball roast? Why don't you have a meatball roast? She's like, okay Andy, I want to toast to a great reunion and understanding each other. And we've all come a long way. And I just have been a great friend to all of you guys.

And I just want to thank you for letting me be a great friend to all of you guys. And I apologize. And thank you. I'm a great friend. Thank you. This is, yeah. So they toast this.

And then, but no one will let Jen have the last word. So Lisa's like, yeah, to meeting in the middle. And Heather's like, oh, well, I'm going to say, how many looks does it take? I was like, yeah, to meeting in the middle. And Heather's like, oh, well, I'm gonna say, how many licks does it take? I was like, okay. I'm disengaging from this meatball right now. It's so typical housewives. No one will just let someone have the last word, right?

So then it starts snowing real snow. And the last thing I wrote is, that says that my side. Well, because it's not real, it's just like set snow, right? And he's like, oh my God, you guys, it's snowing the first three in his snow. And they're all like jumping around, like, oh my God, that's funny.

And then Mary sticks her tongue out. And she's like, she tries to catch it because I don't think that's snow. I don't think that's snow. And it just ends on her being like, like she just ate the plastic snow. God bless me. Well, I think it was the,

I think it was the, I think it was the snow machines that make real water snow, right? Because Meredith was like, I'm getting wet all over me. Oh, maybe. I mean, she may have just been, maybe just like, Seth was like spitting through the Zoom. But that was a really fun season and we got a little pop-up But that was a really fun season and we got a little pop up In it that said real housewives of Salt Lake season two coming soon Yeah, let us know it let us know what you think about this season and this reunion We'd love to hear your thoughts go check it out on Facebook. We have a Facebook group watcher crap and live and loving it and You can follow us on Twitter at what crap ends because Because Twitter won't let us have at Watch What crapens

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