Watch What Crappens - RHOSLC Reunion 1: Narrating Exatums

Episode Date: March 1, 2022

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I'm Ronnie. That's been over there. Happy Ann. Hey Ronnie, how are you? Good what's going on with you. Oh, nothing just excited to start the week off. It's gonna be a big fun exciting week for us. That's for sure.

It is everybody. We're traveling again this week. So this is the Salt Lake City reunion part one recap. So we'll go to that in a second, but guess what? You know what? Leave it this week. We're going to be going fun places. We're March 3rd. We're in St. Paul at the Fitzgerald theater. And we're going to be doing OC there. Real House was a Orange County. Okay. And then March 4th. we're doing Mill, we're going to, we're not doing Millwalkie, I mean, that's amazing. We're going to Millwalkie to the Turner Hall Ballroom. And for the first time ever, we are going to be doing Top Chef, the premier episode,

live. I know that most of you listen to Housewivesy types of things, but Top Chef is one of our favorite things to recap. It's gonna be funny. So come see that guy. Did you mean to have a landmark recap in Milwaukee? And then March 5th, the very next night, we're gonna be in Chicago at Park West. We're also going to Philadelphia, Washington, Pittsburgh, Denver.

That's just in March. Then in April, we're gonna be in San Fran, Detroit, Columbus, Cleveland, Houston, Dallas, and we just announced we're going to be at the Moon Tower Comedy Festival here in Austin, Texas, where I am. So guys come see us. Go get links at watchupcrapins.com. Also, guess what? Tonight is the night for take a seat, which is our show on Spotify Greenroom. It's an app, the Green Room app. Just go download it. And you guys talk to us, we talk to you, you talk to each other. It's a big party. I've really started looking forward to that night. And I hope we see you there tonight, 7 p.m. Pacific 10 p.m. Eastern.

Yeah, it's going to be a blast. And of course, this is a crap and it's on demand episode by the way, so you can see us where I'm sort of our Earth Chones today. You know, I got my wrinkle to collar of a t-shirt, you know, it's just one of those days. But let's get on to some real house as a Salt Lake City because it was a very intense and jam-packed episode of content.

As all these, all the reunions are, I mean, like you said, I spent like, I feel like five hours We're taking notes on this episode you said you did like three hours worth. Yeah, you did five hours. No, no No, it was I just felt like it felt like it. I was close to three and then I stopped in the middle and I was like Stop just stop. No one needs to hear every line, but I was like yes I do because yeah, it's really good Well, it's really good. Well, it was horrible over use of time.

And I found it was revolting. That was the big buzzword. Well, I mean, that's Meredith's buzzword in general. Horrible. Because everyone knows about disengaged, but the truth is horrible and revolting are her to, you know, those are really her favorite words. Yeah, she really does love that.

She loves the hamstrings. She likes green number from home. One thing that was surprising was that it looks boring. The previews for this look boring. I mean, I'll be honest, after a crazy season, I thought, oh, this preview, but the second we start zooming in on those floor poos from Target, I thought, oh, this preview, but the second we start zooming in on those floor poos from Target, I mean, bravo. This is the lowest rent housewives show

out there. And listen, OC is still on the air. So that's saying something. And I love that they had poos from Target on the damn floor and a little pool in the middle, like a little yeah, danger pool. I love that this is the first reunion that has an actual hazard. Right. Like you just like, don't, if you want to fight, you don't be careful because there is a hole in the floor. There's a hole in the water. There's literally a hole with the water. There are piranhas in the water. If Gen Shaw, if you decide you want to get up and attack Meredith, just so you know, there is a pit of piranha in front of you. So right when we start, it's a black screen. And it says, taped prior to Jenny Wenz, social posts becoming public and her subsequent departure from the show. Those posts are not mentioned

in the show. Thankfully, Ronnie started hating her episodes ago anyway, so he can still be addicted to her. Enjoy. So, um, now we have like the woman arriving at the reunion. This is, I have to say, Ronnie, I'm a little over the arrival to the reunion, chick. Like, I don't, I don't get anything of this like the pre-fight stuff, like the women in glam being like, well, I don't know if I'm ready for today. It's always the same thing every time but so here we are getting the Salt Lake city version and Heather. It's a pre sports thing where they're like, how do you feel about going up against Ben Mandelker? Yeah, I think for that's my dad trains me. You know, they do that whole thing. And notable, notably, Andy goes to all the housewives,

except for, well, they edited out him going to Jenny, because it would have been, if none of that stuff had come out, it'd be like, Jenny, your first reunion, how you feeling today, but they don't even, they got rid of Jenny's epilogue last week. They don't give her the pre thing. It's really fun seeing the ways that they're slicing her out. I really wish they pulled a below deck peat and just like you just never see her again.

I thought that when Andy was doing his hi, hi, hi, I thought for sure they were going to just skip hi, Jenny, because he went out of order when that time came because he went on the couch He went Lisa and then he went Meredith. I was like, oh my god, they're skipping hi Jenny But then he actually said hi Jenny, so yeah, I was just skipable enough as far as the season goes anyway, which is helpful But Whitney was cracking me up because she's like, I am watching Lisa on my phone. It is game day. So I have to see what the other team is doing right now. Ha, ha, ha.

And they show her watching a feed on her phone, which I don't think that's fair. What do they get to watch each other on a feed in their dressing rooms? What the hell is that? No, it wasn't the feed. It was, she was just like rewatching a screener from, you know, I'm so dumb. It wasn't, it wasn't the feed it was she was just like rewatching a screener from you know I'm so dumb

It wasn't what they all have Look at me I'm so mad Oh Lisa I know what sort of bronzer you put on today. I've been watching you I then Meredith comes in and she's like wow, I'm super excited. I mean the hair part Not amount of breath of it. Which is funny You know what's funny to me? It's funny that that Meredith is like really excited that her hair guys there to do her hair

But like she always has the same hair right like I imagine I'll be excited about a hair person Because like today I'm gonna go for a high pony with bangs or something But like if it's always the same thing like I I feel like, you know, I guess that's exciting. I gotta wicket this point. Yeah, I gotta wicket the, I mean, I see what you mean, for sure. The thing that I really wanna see on Meredith though, arms, I wanna see arms.

I need to see the, are they robot arms? What's happening? Because there's always a suit or a sleeve. And listen, I mean, if that maybe they're it, maybe she just doesn't like her arms, you know, who am I to say? But as a viewer, as a fan, I'm like, by the C3PO arms, like, tell me what's happening. I need to know. Or a different kind of sleep. Like what I'm, what I would like to see is less the spiky

shoulder or the feathery shoulder or the feathery arm, give just some, just some maybe a giant, like, slowy piece of fabric. I don't know.'t know, but um, yeah, I think I need some, I need some arm variety. Yeah, and the, the, the colors this time, I mean, the feathers this time. Oh my god. It was, I mean, it's, it's low hanging fruit to say that it's, it's the monsters ink monster, but it's also like accurate fruit. It's like, it's like, you go for the low hanging fruit, you're like,

oh, this tastes exactly the way an apple should taste. Bravo. Listen, some fruit is on the ground like a potato. Some fruit doesn't grow high. Some fruit grows on bushes, perhaps my favorite fruit, the potato. Potato fruit. Well, potatoes in French are called palm de terre, means apples of the ground so there you go. Yeah, okay. So let's see and he goes to Gen Chas dressing room and he's like this is

which is a very young Gorgon with it. Gorgon is glad you're here and just so you know I'm going with the gorgas felling of that which is H-E-E-R Okay Glad you're here. We have a lot to talk about Jen and I want you to hear from me, Jen Right We did not give Erica Jane questions before the Beverly Hills reunion You're the cleaners Erica Jane have fun in jail fuck for the Beverly Hills reunion. You're the claim of the Arical Jane, hats on in jail, fuck off.

Jen's like, oh, I didn't even hear that rumor, but now that I do hear it, I'm thinking should I get myself mad and then come down again really quickly? I mean, Jen's like, you didn't give her questions, but did you give her money? No, didn't give her money, did you sign her up for your, did you sign up for her business services

with your life savings? Okay, Jen, Jan. Okay. And then he goes to Lisa. He's like, Hey, Lisa, how you feeling today? She goes, good. It's going to be a lot. I got pushed to a point where I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm done.

I'm like, I'm done. Okay. You know what it's like? It's like when you go to a museum and they say no touching. I'm like, I'm done. Okay. Can I touch? No, I'm done. It's a lot. That's a museum and they say no touching. I'm like I'm done. Okay. Can I touch? No, I'm done

Her mouth. So I'm looking for chapstick because for whatever reason. Oh, it's right in front of me. Vaseline's lip therapy There it is spelled as S L E E M Aseline as lean Yeah, you got some masculine He goes over to Meredith's and he's like Meredith has to be pretty eye-opening to see what Lisa said about you behind that coast door Where's my opening open your eyes Meredith only one of your eyes is open right now

We're both of your eyes open. She's like my eyes is open right now. We're both of your eyes open? She's like, oh wow. Let me tell you something, when I saw, I was horrifying and it's like when I have to put out a mailing for the new line of Meredith Marx, there's a lot of stuff I have to address. Yeah, it was all wrong thing. I'm like, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why from merit nobody wants that angle it's merit it's so beautiful it no one can

look good from that angle it's like under her behind her they're like could you lift your arm we're gonna put a camera in your armpit and get you right from below right Marietta I know I was a little surprised that she wasn't first seat that she was actually all the way down to third seat on the sofa I mean I wonder if like the absence of Mary meant that to recalibrate things But I really thought that like it was gonna be Jen Meredith

then Maybe Whitney Lisa Heather Jenny. I don't know. I was very surprised that Meredith was on the end because I felt like Meredith was kind of the center of all the major very surprised that Meredith was on the end because I felt like Meredith was kind of the center of all the major drama of this, not the center, but she was involved in all the major drama of the entire season. Who was right next to Andy? It was Jen and Lisa Barlow.

I was shocked. I mean, I was very proud of Lisa. I was like, good for you. You know, like, I feel like in some ways, Lisa Barlow is an underrated shifter of a cast member in the real housewives universe. I was like, look at her. She made her way all the way next to Andy,

but truth be told, it should have been Meredith. It was Meredith versus Lisa, Meredith versus Jen, Meredith and the Mary thing. It was all about Meredith, all season long. Well, this reunion was all about Lisa. Oh my God. They just laid into Lisa the entire time. I was cracking. I just wasn't expecting it and I was cracking up. So Jen comes on in her stupid purple Disney villain outfit thing where she looks like she's

looking through the purple firm. You just see Cardi B is an ode to Cardi B as she elaborated on her Instagram. Oh God. But yeah, it was funny. It was sort of like up there. It was a. And oh, the Cardi B chose to a sad. Yeah, it was sad. I don't, I don't mean no like, I don't like that.

Okay. I do not like it. So Whitney's like, oh my God, it's water. And he's like, it's the right fishing. It's water and he's like it's the right At least it's like this is like the This is like the most insane set it actually was actually it was one of the more insane sets Because normally the sets are kind of an ode to something that happened and then maybe they might make something look like a log cabin Or New Orleans or something, but this was like a little theme parkie.

Like this felt like I was waiting in line at Disney to go on the Matterhorn. It was not like, it was not like a ski chalet. I mean, I personally think the reunion should have just been designed to look like a giant sprinter van, you know? That would have been great with little tiny bottles of water. You know, like bag of lifesavers, stripper pole right in the middle where the death pit

is. And you have to spend the entire reunion being like looking around the pole to get to the camera. So everyone comes out and they're asking where's Mary? Where's Mary? Heather's like, why is Mary not here? Like Heather is doing her second reunion performance. We're all season, she seems kind of chill, and then she gets to the reunion. I mean calm down, okay? Calm yourself. Every look, every time

they cut Heather, she's like, and then she just talks over everybody the entire time. So I had, that's why it took so long. I had to keep her winding to hear what they were saying under freaking Heather pushing her agenda, okay? Yeah, the Heather agenda. So then um So then Meredith comes out to the set and she's like she's like, oh is that our own fishing? like she's like, oh, is that our own expressing? Oh, and the producer is like, Andy, we have to remove Jen's glove because Jen is wearing gloves with fake chandelier crystals sewn all over the chimes. Yeah, but it's really cool. And she's like, well, these guys make the whole outfit, but okay. So they take them off and I just kept writing

Jim costume comments, which nobody really means. So Andy, welcome, I'm Andy Cullen. I'm joined by the women who soft-moor season almost set the snow, gapped mountains. Oh, I'm sorry. Let's take a look just kidding. I'm a lady! I'm a lady! We transformed our Santa to the beautiful ice castles of Utah. We're after months of feuding. Gen and Heather finally made peace.

I'm hoping we can mend some other rifts that transpired this season. Remember, Gen was on a sled guys. And Heather is like wow ice castles she just throws a hot dog under the water. She's just trying to toast a trove over that pit of water the entire time. A trove. Heather, Heather that is actually not a fire but probably better because last time you put your churro on the toxic crystals that were not meant for cake cooking. Because they are mixing their scene metaphors, if you will.

The ice fishing was a different thing. That was a nice fishing. Yeah, the ice castles were when she threw the churro on the fire. So guys, I mean, does anyone watch this show? And they didn't even have sofas. They just had tubes. It was so strange. They're all sat on their own different tube.

And the patchy snow. No one would sit next to Lisa on her tube. By the way, one thing I, do we talk about this last week that one of the benefits of Jenny being fired from the show is that I think I did mention this, but I'll mention it again because I'm already down this path. Why not?

One of the benefits is that we never had to see the resolution of the sister wives storyline because I believe that there probably was a resolution for it in the season family and they just, we just never saw it. And I'm like, thank you. That was, that's one of the blessings. They found their sister wife. It's like Marjorie Taylor Greene. They're like, well, wait a minute. We're, that's, that's one of the blessings. They found their sister wife. It's like Marjorie Taylor green. They're like, well, wait a minute. We're up for the mound, Rob.

I'm not doing that. Hi, baby gorgeous. Hi. Hi, Andy. So basically, we're not in a sprinter van. Y'as. So, let's see, Andy tells Jen that she looks understated. Some might have expected you to show up and play as white today, but not you. Yeah, I don't know where I land on this to be honest.

I feel like the smart thing would have been for Jen to be, you know, like conservative and humble, but I think we all would have then just clocked Jen for being totally fake. So I actually think she did the right thing. I think she just like, go out in like a ball of flames, right? Or in this case, purple feathers. Feathers, unless you're actually near flame, which you will be a ball of flames wearing those feathers.

Okay. Well get ready for episode 2, we transform the water pit into a steam and cauldron of flames. This outside represents all the purple hairs I stepped through the hot andy. And he's like, Meredith, did you take a nice long soak in a bathtub today? We're about to wet now! We're just getting married at the number one! But she's like, well, actually, I didn't, because you put us in a hotel without a bathtub.

It was horrifying. And so I'm kind of a no for me on the bathtub front. Welcome to New York fucking city, lady. I know, my god. The hotel rooms are as big as a bathtub. And get your outfit looks like a corpse that drowned a week ago. It's even grown lots on the arms.

You look stupid. Okay, you know, I just like to make a general melt. You all look crazy and stupid. Okay, thanks. Meredith, I just want to say thank you for your dedication to this country. I loved you in the Muppet Caper. I'm not Sam the Eagle. I'm Meredith Marks.

Sam the Eagle. Wow. Who's like, well, we're going to need to look at Meredith's ride or last time. I think you not have riders on this show. who's like, well, we're gonna need to look at Meredith's writer last time. I think you not have writers on this show. You were never gonna convince me that they had, that they give anybody anything for this show. I'm surprised if they even get paid for this show.

They probably charged them for the rehearsal time. It's like doing improv. So Andy, so yeah, he says that. And then he turns to Jenny's like, Jenny, how you feel about being here? she just throws a glass to the space I'm glad you could take a break from driving carpool to be here. She's like yes, haha The nanny is at home doing the carpool, but not texting because we believe in safety doing the carpool but not texting because we believe in safety.

I have. I mean while at Whitney's house, handcats, it's me, the nanny. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha She's trying to like get the paint out of the Comforter like when he happened So and How are you? Did you finally get a real louvets? Just like yes, I did finally get a real louveteon. I am shocked Ronnie that there was not any sort of remark about Jen's job being banned for life from louveteon at this moment about Jen's job being banned for life from Louis Vuitton at this moment. You know, I'm actually shocked too, because that was a pretty big thing. And remember on Take a Seat, we had someone from wherever she was banned saying, I work there, and it's Lisa came in asking questions. Oh, so good.

Yeah, that was great. Also, what does Andy pronounce it? Louis Vuitton. Is that a cute way, or is that how rich people say it? That's how you say it when you're nervous, you might fall into a pit of water. And I'm going to say, oh, Louis, but we did that.

And Heather says it's exactly the same as all the fakes that have been carrying all these years, Andy. And I was like, okay, here's relatable, Heather. She's going to be gone in about 60 seconds. I know. Well, it should be apparent to all of you, but I'm not gonna assume, because you aren't the brightest bulbs

in the Brawville universe. That Mary is not here with us tonight, disappointing to say the least. Who? Mary. Who? Mary M Cosby. Oh, right, Mary M Cosby. Why don't you just say that? Mary M Cosby. No one says Mary. Why didn't Mary come? Whitney, because of you, probably because of you Whitney, because you guys are so like crazy to her at all times. So

Andy says that he spoke to her and was like well she was pretty upset about everyone speaking behind her back about her church And I encourage her to come and defend her church Maybe she could throw someone in the pit of water and she was very upset that you called her a predator because she does not like that She prefers the aliens of that predator versus alien franchise She was stunned and she kept bringing that back. What do you guys all think about that? She doesn't even like Arnold shorts and egg or alcohol again. And wait, please stop putting mud on yourself. There's no actual predator here. And to be fair, to be fair, if you're sexy Andy, if it's for our sex life, it's like covered in mud.

Justin's just like God, please let me out of this. He's doing predator cosplay. It's part of our kink So to be fair about this. Yeah, okay, I can get upset why you were why you were mad that people were calling you a predator and your church of fake and all this But they did try to say it to your face. You just kept walking away. So Mary's a complicated issue. I wish she had been there and I feel like she should have been there because it's part of her job, but it's like, man, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I are like, well, but they did this and they did that. We have a whole clip package of things that Mary said, okay, and she should have to show up and defend herself.

I think, I think this is bullshit, I don't like it. She should have to defend herself and I think there's actually some ways that she could redeem herself too, by the way. Yeah, you know, we say, or especially me, like I'm always on Gen Shaw's essence, the beginning of season one, like she makes me freaking crazy. But I have to say Gen Shaw has really impressed me with how she has taken

being a villain, like coming into the season, everyone was like, fuck her. Yeah. And taking all this crime crap, I mean, she really has people liking a lot of people like Gen Shaw a lot. Now, I mean, you know, there are ways to rehab your image, even Gen Shaw did it. Making that for try. I mean, I think Mary is just from a different space.

Like, I think that like she, I think that she's, there's been a lot of craziness in her life, and I don't know what it is. You know, but I think that like she seems incredibly, incredibly guarded. And I mean, this, this sort of show is like not the normal place for someone who is like deeply guarded. And so it would have been nice if she came to the reunion. They could have like maybe had like by having someone, well, maybe by having like Andy, they could have like maybe brokered some like helpful communication as opposed to Whitney be like,

Mary, do you like us? Do you like us? It's also, you know, she did herself a disservice because now they can say whatever they want. Yeah, that's true too. You know, they just say whatever they want So then Andy keeps on Whitney. He's like, and you can't bring it up. So what do you think? And she's like, but I tried to talk to her. And she would not afford me the respect of a conversation. It's like, okay, right? She also might have known that you called her cousin, her cousin. I'm not sure if it really was her cousin. You called somebody who claimed to be here. I mean, I don't know. You were calling people behind her back asking all

these questions too. So. But every time also Whitney wants it, I have a conversation with Mary, it was a trap, right? And Mary has sensed that. So, yeah. So, but it's just funny, because like here's Whitney sort of acting like a saint. Like I tried to have the talk,

I tried to be the mature one. It's like, you were just trying to, you were gonna, you're gonna try to trap her and have a scene, you know? And she picked up on that. Yeah, I put she knew you were gonna trying to, you were gonna, you're not gonna try to trap her and have a scene, you know, and she picked up on that. Yeah, I put she knew you were gonna call her church a cult because you would already call family members to get shit to use a gunster with me.

So Clipit finale, where Whitney is in her terrible miscolored ponytail account. She's like, but Mary, come talk to me. And Mary's like, I can smell it on your breath, the alcohol. Ooh, the alcohol. And then we cut back and Heather's like, yeah, I wish she was here too, because you know what? Mary really said a lot of insightful things

in the interview room. And I just gained so much respect for Mary from watching the episodes. Like, she really has this weird ability to read people, like the Bible. At least it's like, I don't think that, I don't know. So Heather is like, no, I think they are.

I mean, like Lisa doesn't even know how to be real. I thought that's the truest thing I've ever heard when she said that. Oh, that's why you've got that. Your talk, smart. Your talk, smart. Okay. Whatever that means. Heather's like, like listen she said things about me she said things about Whitney to

I know it'd be real I don't even know how to be real. I am real Yeah, and Jenny is like well she called Whitney a whore and then there's like she called you a whore I'm gonna go the the thing about Mary. Mary does have moments of great wisdom and insight. And so like now like some backpedal like by the way, and the whole thing with Whitney and Mary is strange too because Whitney was like, I'm done with Mary.

I'm done with Mary. I'm done with Mary. And then the final episode she's like, no, I want to apologize. I want I want to apologize for everything. And now she's saying that Mary has great moments of wisdom and insight. I can't get a read on where Whitney stands with this whole Mary situation.

Whitney stands with Twitter, I think. I think Whitney was called a racist a lot on Twitter. And now she's saying nice things about Mary. So she'll get Twitter off her ass. That's what I think. That's probably true, too. But I also loved here how Lisa was like, I mean, she called Whitney a whore.

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Williams. Um, so Whitney's like, uh, I'm sorry, Heather says, I mean, Meredith was her writer die all season. And with everything that went down, I mean, Meredith could use as many people supporting her as possible. And now there's no one. Yeah, just trying to drive a wedge in that relationship. It made it like, well, I have mixed feelings about it. I'm not sure the show is very healthy for me, but I like having our support. So I'm just going to have to give that a little bit of a little bit of each heart of holding. All right. Well, let's move on. I want to start married with you and Jen, because I haven't seen you in person since last reunion Which is just my reminder to the greater audience. I'm not friends with any of these people

Okay, anything to say about me never calling you back. Great So your face and conspiracy to commit wire fraud with the max of 30 years in prison and a conspiracy to commit the money laundering with additional 20 years. You're gonna have to downsize into a shoe box and you can't even afford the IKEA and the penny saver has revoked your subscription and the penny saver is free. How you doing? I mean, Andy, wire fraud? I mean, so what? So I act out the wire in my living room badly.

What are they trying to do to me, Andy? He's like, no, that's an HMEO television show this as way less of a budget. Okay, conspiracy to commit money laundering for an additional 20 years. So now I'm in trouble for doing laundry and the after-gaming and the Honestly, this is devastating for me personally. The more so for my family, which I support all of my family. The entire city. I'm so like city. And I think that's why it's so hard for me. I mean, seeing the fail trip, I saw it real time, with the rest of the world, and it broke my heart. I'm glad I didn't see all the things that were said until I watched it because if I had known, we would have definitely turned that bus over. Other way to Zarya, I'm not trying to say that I'm a violent person who maybe should

be put in jail, but like I am saying, I probably would have attacked everyone and you know, got some giant, I don't know, but disaster on the highway. I just laughed so hard, some snop was coming out of my nose, I'm just checking my nostrils for anyone thinking I'm texting. Any bads on the caves? Yeah, just like you just never want there to be like a little drip of snot, you know, the word. But I love a little thing.

You want that that just goes back and forth when you breathe and you're like, it's just you know, I know you're there and I don't have an appropriate time to take you about right now. Yes. So, I love that Jen is of course making herself the biggest victim in all of this. Jen, you were arrested by three security agencies, okay? People have a right to talk about that on the show and She's making herself this big victim, but they sat her right in front of the fire

Did you notice that so she's wearing this big villain thing and there's literally flames shooting up behind her? I mean, this is on the side of my dress So then Andy is like so after the, did you consider quitting the show? Well, we did have a discussion, coach, and the boys, and I was like, no, I'm innocent. And I have to be famous. I need to tell my story, which is that there's no story to tell, of course, because I'm innocent. Yeah. But how do your lawyers feel about being here today? She's like, have you seen my lawyers write a brief, Andy? They don't really have a lot of feelings about anything.

Okay, they're not really getting paid. Have you, if anybody out there listens to this kind of stuff, you'll love the Bravo Docket. Shout out to those ladies because I was listening to the Gen Shot one. It's good. And then just, you know, like Ronald Riches on Twitter, not the best person. Okay, I'll say it. But he posts all this legal stuff and Gen's lawyers. I mean, they're trying to subpoena Personal emails between the lawyers and the client like hello. Who who's your lawyer? Who are these?

I'll tell you who my lawyer is. His name is Shane Simpson Esquire. Okay. I now call this corn to session King of long hours. The defense is snarky. Thank you. So the defense just. The defense would light the call to the stand not caring so much. Can we have the bay lift please bring me that evidence? No, help, no, help.

So, um, yeah, she's basically like, uh, they did not want to do this, but she's like, no, she goes goes it's important to be here with the rest of the group of friends Just and show up and show up. I'm like you are like I'm going to jail I just want to be on TV as long as possible before it happens. I'd live when people say that to like I just show up That's what I do. I show up like oh my god. You're so brave The trial is March 22nd and when they that date, I put that shit in my account. Yeah, I'm like, the we're doing a show that weekend. I think we actually are. We have a show in the night.

I just show up. You know what else shows up warts. So then Andy is like, well, that's really soon. Hey, hey, you've got a trial that could determine the rest of like, well, that's really soon. Hey, hey, you've got a trial that can determine the rest of your life. But that's so soon. Huh? She's like, enough, Andy. Well, I want to start with something a little lighter. How is that you just started with the least light thing you could? How many times you can start? I know. Jen began to season on an apology tour and then began a montage of Jen being like, I'm

so sorry, I'm sorry. Brooks, we take this apology. Marthly apologize. Mr. Jomperjee's, I apologize. Do you feel like you will apologize more than the other women? Like definitely Andy. I mean, you also do more fucked up shit than the other women. That's true too. In general.

But I also agree that Meredith really laid it on thick this year with- You're too high, it's my top. You're too high. I mean, how many times you need to apologize to Brooks? So much from Lage Neva says, Heather, you thought Gen Zipology was sincere enough to move on, but I wouldn't be able to move after being called Shrek or Honey Boo Boo. How can you? And she's like, oh, well, it was a bad joke.

And that she set behind my back to a random person. And I would rather deal with someone who makes bad jokes and low-hanging fruit. And that I enjoy and like, you know, I'm sorry. Someone who makes bad jokes, but who I like, that I can get over it. And I got over it. And I think she's deeply sorry about the things that she said. Aren't you? Yeah, she is.

Do you think I look like honey boo boo? First of all, can we take honey boo boo out of this conversation? What do honey boo boo ever do to anybody? He's also not a door brand. She's not our brand. She's DLC. Yeah, but she's like cute like leave honey Boo Boo alone Okay, that's not the same as Shrek. Okay Shrek is way worse. Okay, well Some are new boo boo in the same conversation and yeah, but Shrek's an ogre You know what I mean like he's literally an ogre He's literally an ogre. Did we learn nothing from the Shrek movies about beauty, etc?

Did we learn nothing about that big twist? I don't want to spoil anything 20 years later about Fiona, okay? Did we learn nothing that ogres can be beautiful and that beauty is in the eye of the beholder? Okay. Yeah, but still, like, leave Honey Boo Boo on that. Okay? I stand by that. I stand by. I just say leave Honey Boo Boo out of it because I just don't want, like leave Honey Boo Boo alone, okay? I stand by that. I stand by that. I just say leave Honey Boo Boo out of it because I just don't want to hear about Honey Boo Boo.

I do. I'd like, where is she? What's she doing? What, you know, her mom was fucked up but like, what happened to her? Like, poor thing. I feel for Honey Boo Boo. What can you do?

I'll tell you, I, for some reason, I don't know why, but I watch one of the Honey Boo Boo shit. Like, cause, like, she's still on. And it's like, cause I think her name is Elena or something like that and I watched a show where I watch it's like she's still doing a show and it's like her and her friend and like our sister I don't know why I watch it I literally don't know how it got into my into my into my brain but I watched it and it was stupid and so that's why I'm resentful. Why not even though she saw the show so there goes

yeah I think you watch the show I think you'd be like you know why I'm resentful. Why not even though she saw the show so there goes. Yeah, I think you watch the show. I think you'd be like, you know what? I'm done with honey boo boo. I feel like fuck honey boo boo fuck here. Yeah. So let's see Whitney's like, well, I mean, oh Jen says I just called you Shrek because you were acting like an ogre with me It's like wow nice save two years later and Whitney's like, don't you remember? I was donkey But that's when your nickname since high school later and Whitney's like don't you remember I was donkey But that's been your nickname since high school Whitney, okay, that doesn't count And Jenna's like, you know who else was talking a bunch of other stuff. Okay. I'm the one who was gets called out about it I'm the one I'm the one. I'm the one. I did the finger thing just like you

You do the most fucked up shit on Twitter. I would say you tell people off the most viciously on Twitter, which is usually why she gets in trouble on the show, right? It's not even for stuff that actually happens on the show. She can throw things, she can get physical, no one cares. They always go back to our good housewife, to Sharma Dia, to get mad at things. So he's like, where are you looking at Lisa? And she's Lisa goes,

I never called her at the Shrack. And she does that little shoulder thing. Like, I'm so much better than you. I never called anyone Shrack. Yeah. And then she goes, what you call me horrible things Lisa. You call me a Lego figurine.

And by the way, I just want to point out that, like while Meredith loves saying horrified, I think Heather's big buzz word is horrible. She actually said that all the time. She's like, I went to the library and there was a horrible week to get the book that I wanted. Horrible.

Horrible. So she's like, you call me a Lego. And Lisa's like, I did not, I did not, I did not, I did not. Well, you've called friends of here, you've called friends here that you've had for 10 years, a fucking piece of shit garbage whore and I think I would rather be called Shrek than any of the things you called your friend of 10. You know what Heather, my name is fucking business. The small, the sole reunion again is how they're going off about it's like tattletailing on everybody. It's like, yeah, but you did this to her and you did this to her letter what are have her own thing? What are have her own show? Move off the stage, please, man.

It was a horrible way to interfere. So uh, at least that's like, okay, well you know what, that was in a rage in my room and will address that, okay? And it's, well that was, that was so ugly. That does not come out an Arraige Lisa. That is the, that is the Lisa Barlow. I have known since day one, Andy. And I said, you're going to reveal yourself. And you finally did. The curtains were pulled back. And it's very ugly. And dare I say, horrifying, horrible. I knew this would happen. I knew it. Listen, I had one moment, one moment, okay?

You called your best friend of 10 years, a piece of shit garbage whore, and that's the smallest of the things you said. But I'll preserve a small part of everyone's dignity here, by not repeating every line, right at once. I'll do them out as we go. I'll do that. Hey, so did Lisa, did you call her a Lego figure? I never did. Okay, I got a sent, I got sent a picture from the Arbastron that had said that that had her and said like this looks like a Heather. Okay, and basically it's a picture, a text from Angie

with a giant picture of a Lego man like a huge like two story Lego man. Yeah, at least a rope below it. Cast reveal. I didn't see that part. So she's like, yeah, a friend sent that to me. And now there's like, yeah, well, you said it. And that's how we know about it through our friends. You know what? I'll show you all of our attacks. If you want to see them, I'll show you all of them. And they're of course all through Andy.

I mean, through Angie, which is so funny because Heather and Whitney are caping for Angie this whole time. Yeah, it sounds like Heather, I wasn't sure the state of Lisa and Angie, but it sounds like that's, that relationship is on the fritz at the moment.

And that was on with the catering scandal. I was that was over. I thought that maybe it might have repaired itself. I mean, I still am very confused as to why we are not seeing more Angie on the show. There were some rumors that came out a few weeks ago that she's actually terrible. Like her stepdaughter hates her.

And yada yada, I'm like, yeah, that's why. Stepson. Stepson. I don't remember what. Well, it was something like it was supposedly a friend of the stepson who she came on, the Angie came on the show like, I have a trans son and that's why I stand for blah, blah,

and supposedly a friend, there's no proof of this. So obviously, it's just internet stuff. So the friend was saying, you know, the son hates her and she's not supportive at all. And he would be more, he's more to fight that she's using him like this on the show. I mean, I hear, I hear that Angie's a terrible stepmother and is lying and has a facade.

And I'm like, that to me sounds like a cast member material. It's congratulations. Just so you have contract. Sorry, there's no rider on it, but it's the real housewives of soft city. What's going on here? What are we missing? What like, like, thank you. That was an endorsement.

That was like someone just wrote a referral for Angie to be on the show. Yeah. Yeah. Something must have happened because that was weird. I think something, I think something must have happened because she was only on for a few episodes and in those episodes, like it was great. I really enjoyed her, but I will. Yeah. And then remember when she got all drunk at Heather's event, got like fall down drunk right away. I mean, come on guys. So I don't know what really happened,

but I want to do. It must have been something bad. Yeah. So I mean, I on guys. So I don't know what really happened, but I want you. It must have been something bad. Yeah. So I mean, I don't think Lisa Barlow's that powerful because most people are like, Lisa did it. It's because she didn't get along with Lisa. They would, are you kidding? That's like a number one reason to cast her.

Yeah. So anyway. So Heather's like, oh, Angie showed us all the text because we're friends with Angie now. And Lisa's like, oh really? Does she show her husband calling you Trash? And you Trash, Redmay? And she's like, yeah, we spent, we've talked about all of it because we just spent a week in Cabo with her and her husband because they are authentic people and they only felt that way about us because of the horrible things you said about us. The horrible things you said about us. The horrible things you said about.

Horrible, Ronnie. Horrible. And I'm just like, I never talked to them about you guys. You've been really, you've been refilled these. So, own it. Own it, Lisa. Lisa, you're such a fucking liar too. You've never talked about them.

You just whipped out your phone with multiple texts. One of them making fun of, oh, they're being a Lego person. Like, how are you even saying with the straight face you never talked about them? So she's like, I will own what I do and what I say 100% mostly because it's all trademark batch. And Andy's like, we did man it. Is the Lego figurine bad? Because that kind of body type really works in the gay community. No, because when I heard Lego Figurary and I was like,

oh my god, that's like my dream. That's like so hot. Like just a hard blocky man. So then, it's like, I got a boner in Lego Land there. Not the place, not the place, the movie. Was it called Lego Land? Oh, good. The theme park is Lego Land.

Everything in my foam. The Lego Land. I don the team park is Lego land. Everything in my phone. The Lego. I don't know what the probably. You can say you got a bone or a Lego land. I'm like, I'm going to be arrested. I didn't meet a boy. I'm at the movie. The film.

I'm horrified by that. So how could you say that? My toddler is watching. So Heather's like, this is my Angie got fired. She made a Lego land joke. Didn't she? She's like, I'm about to... I'm about to... This is my Angie got fired. She made a Legoland joke didn't she? She's like, let's get a drug at Legoland. We have to fire her.

So Heather's like, well, she meant it because my body is too square. I'm waiting because that's body shaming. I love Whitney always. She loves to guild the lily, right? She just loves to make sure. Heather and Whitney, bad weather, They're a team, you know? And so Heather goes, yeah, that's a thing for her.

And Lisa's like, I don't fat shame or body shame you. I think you look great, Heather. They made a whole movie about Lego people. And the main song is called Everything is Awesome. You should, but try being as positive as your people, Heather. I'm sorry. I didn't enjoy me, but I meant those people, those people. Thanks for saving Gotham. Oh my God, I am not Lego Batman. I'm sorry to be in your army but I met those people those people Thanks for saving Gotham. Oh my god. I am not Lego Batman So and he's like well after the apology to Brooks you seemed okay with Jen Meredith

What made you pull away again just well? First of all when I would like to accomplish today with Jen is a peaceful space. I would like to get out of this revolting space, rather revolting. And Jen's like, well, I've been trying to get to a peaceful space for a while too. I want a peaceful space too. Because of course, Jen's going to like one peaceful space, you know, first starters. I'd like to apologize to you for hurting you and my family, including my little baby toddler, Brooks. You can go to sleep now, baby, and for anything that I

said. I mean, she gives this whole monologue basically. She talks about her dad dying during COVID and she couldn't even see him she had to be behind a She only saw him. She's sobbing. Yeah, I mean, this is all the plants. I'm all the clamped. Yeah, at least it's like both rolling her Eyes that she's apologizing to Jen, but also like do you need to shoot her? While this is all going on and it's really sad. I'm not gonna like mock her dad dying or anything. And she's just basically like, listen, I went through a lot and I was in a state of mess and you know, every view should know. She's telling them, you know, that my reactions were just amplified a million times over and she was insane. She watched the season back and realizes that she was completely insane. And Jen is very happy about this monologue because she's able to retroactively use it to exonerate herself from last season

because, well, I don't really understand. Because when I saw you, I saw myself a year ago with exactly how I responded to the reactor because I was grieving and I didn't know if I could get better until I went through all of that So there before Case dismissed in the court of public opinion versus Gen Shaw Yes, and you know what else you'll see if you watch last season you acting just like you were acting this season The reason Meredith kept going crazy was because you were in her face constantly and if you weren't in her face Wacking your finger and standing above her while she's sitting down, screaming about her calling the FBI on you, uh, you were feeding it into Lisa's ear because there's no

coincidence, it's can't be a coincidence that Jen said word for word about Meredith. What Lisa said behind that door, like at least I'm not a whore, at least I'm not a some whore who fucked half of the upper west side of New York City. It's like, oh, okay, now we see where that came from. Well, seeing, seeing how everything unfolded and the information that was given to Jen, or I should say, the Miss information, a Zing, paused for Zinging, okay. She's actually pretty kind at the end of the day.

Twists. Plot twists. Thank you. Thank you for saying that with your merit class here and then with your dad and everything. I would kind of hold back. You know, I mean, I was holding back. You know, I'm you were holding back. Oh my god. Is anyone buying this shit? Like people must have the memories of goldfish if they're buying this when were you holding back? She was holding back when you say people have the memories of goldfish I just think of Whitney like our resident goldfish. So Andy goes,

Do you think that she treated you better than your friend? Basically saying, do you think that gently you better than Meredith? I'm not think I'm sorry, then Lisa. Yes, at least she that, I'm sorry, then Lisa. I'm not gonna say that. Yes, Lisa goes, oh, oh, I feel like in a weird way, we're rewriting history, and I'm happy you guys are in a really good place right now, but what's really weird for me for the last year,

like this has not been working, it's been disjointed and horrible, and I've been in the middle of it, not touching anything, despite repeated questions and requests to touch. And now we're like, come by yaaaah. And Jen's like, but I thought that's what you wanted, Lisa. I thought you wanted that. Um, and no, of course she doesn't, because now you're all made up,

which means you can all come against her together at the same time. I mean, look, it doesn't matter who's right or wrong at a reunion. You've got to have a team. And Lisa seems to have gotten herself into a place where everybody hates her. Like, you're not gonna win. It doesn't matter if you're factually correct or not, which you only are about 25% of the time anyway,

but good luck. I think also Lisa, they're realizing Lisa's the reunion punching bag, because this actually happened to her last year too. Like, they just come in, they realize, you know what the easiest thing to do is, let's just go all go for Lisa. It's time for commercial.

It's time for a crapance commercial. So, she's like, well, I have to be perfect all the time. I'm out to a different bar. Which is funny because that's what Jen's argument. And they all believe this. They all believe that no one has their back and they all have to be, they're all held to a higher standard.

Yes, and she goes, I mean, you know, I had that one moment, that one bat moment. I mean, what would, you know, now everybody says your character is horrible? I mean, what if we just erased that? What if we did, you know? I mean, I was in the moment. Yeah, that's what defines your character. That's right.

So now we go to break and we come back. Actually, I want to take that back. I take that back. I'm going to roll back on that because I do a lot of them things. Okay. I feel like you're really rewriting history right now. Literally. I started thinking about my own history and I was like,

take that back immediately. So we come back and Andy asks Jenny what it means to be an immigrant woman of color in Salt Lake City. So she says that it was very difficult growing up. You know, she was grew up in Long Beach with a lot of diversity. And being an immigrant, she's like, she's like, you know, I have a very heavy accent and people don't respect that, you know, like, that they always say, like, oh, you live in America, you have to learn how to communicate. She's like, I communicate fine. It's just that, you know, I have an accent.

It doesn't mean I don't know how to communicate. Yeah. And Lisa, Andy's like, Lisa, what made you think Jenny would fit in with this group? Why'd you bring her on the show? And she's like, I mean, sansouima channe, when our boys were a la la, I just thought she was so fun and funny. And I love her, my friends get together, and had re-winny with just two months old? I remember like, whoa, whoa, whoa. She said two weeks old originally. She said two weeks old.

And I was like, what? Two weeks old. And Jenny's like, no, two months old, but she's still got a crazy. And that was crazy. So it's like, Meredith, what do you think when Jenny tried to get you and Jenny to make up?

Was she overstepping? It's just more eye. Hold on, I'm gonna look down and shake my hand. It's very important that I get the drama. Hold on. I thought that she was. She was, you know, she just had a lot to say All right, I'm gonna put four words in a scrambled order and you figure out what I have to say

Rather was revolting So my words my four words are my words my four words are rock the whole team. It's my new word game called Myrtle and I have to guess my sentence. So Andy is like, he's like, Heather and Whitney you accused Lisa of pulling the poppest strings this season. Do you think Lisa manipulated Jenny into fighting some of her battles? And Heather's like, I do. And Jenny's like, uh, I'm not her minion. Okay. When you said that out on the after show, I was taking a bag. Okay, I'm her friend. And she will not control what I do. Settle down, Jenny. Okay. Sorry. I'm gonna settle down.

I would never try to make her do anything. I said, you've seen the show have your own judgments. Remember the beginning of the season where Angie was on and then she messed with me and now she's not on. Okay, I would never make her do anything. Okay. Yeah. He's like, so you did watch a show, Jenny. Which at least she's honest because most people are like, no, never watch a show till I came on him. And no idea. I mean, what? Yeah. And she's like, yeah, what makes you guys think that Lisa's the power to tell me I should or shouldn't do something?

And Heather said, well, I see Jennings in a tough position because she is Lisa's friend and Lisa has horrifying expectations of her, horrible expectations of her. And she's very controlling. And I was worried that you were getting going to get motivated to do what she was manipulating her to do. You're narrating me. Don't do that, don't narrate me, don't do that, don't narrate me. Lisa tells the group not to narrate her, continue. Lisa Barlow crosses her legs in front of an

hot pond. Stop that! She resists, yelling stop that to the ladies. Okay, I see what you're doing. Lisa resists the urge to tell Heather that she's the one who would have minions despicable me. Hey, stop narrating me being a bat. Lisa nods her head. Jenny sees that sees the nod gets up, brings her a glass of water. Lisa denies manipulation. Don't die right now. So Lisa's like, what did I make a dough? What did I even need her to do? And now there's like, when you need her, you need her. And when you don't, you dismiss her.

And I think Jenny felt that way too, but she won't say it, because she's a loyal friend. You know what you do? I want to say something really quickly. Okay, I want to say something. Are you talking to Beth weather right now? Sorry, I'm talking to you after you do. I want to say I want to say something really quickly. Okay. I want to say something Are you talking to bad weather right now? Sorry? I'm talking about whether I'm talking to you. I'm talking to you. Because it's up. Please stop talking over and not ready. It's okay too much. Not ready. Okay, not whether I'm trying to speak.

All right. I want to say something about weather. Okay. Here we go. Okay. I don't want. Okay. She doesn't want. She doesn't want. I don't want. I will say it again. I will say it again. Okay. Thank you for not narrating me. Okay. I don't want. This is your thing, Tammy. For not narrating me.

I don't want you. Nor do I control anyone through manipulation or any other tactics. I have no tactics. You use the word minions. So if someone stands up for me, they're like the bad guy. Okay, and I don't like that. I don't like that at all. She the bad guy. Okay, and I don't like that.

I don't like that at all. She's clapping. I don't like that. So Heather's like, I'm not thinking for an advantage. I say it because I like Jenny. She's like, and you don't like me. My Whitney's like, sorry, if I call to a minion, Jenny, sorry. Yeah. Whitney is like trying to have like, I the I'm like the bigger person moment, you know like Ridiculous so marital like or actually wait no, I just realized she's not trying to be the bigger person She's just trying to follow through like it's bad to call people Shrek and to call people a Lego and obviously to call people shrek and to call people a Lego and obviously to call people in minions. Like, no, we're not talking about the cartoon or we're out of the cartoons. I mean, I have the cup, the collector cut from McDonald's. I would never. You know what? I've realized despicable me is me. I'm despicable in this

moment. Okay, it is despicable. Me driving a fiat, okay? It was a thing that happened one time, and I will never get the image of myself out of my head. Giant man, tiny car, okay? So Meredith is like, oh, what? Sorry, I have Andy and Meredith in the same line I got confused. She's like, oh, I do think we're at a sum level of control that goes on more over about Lisa's life more of what you shouldn't be doing to respect her space. So you're saying Lisa wants people to respect her space? Just throw it in the pool. In the pool, monsoon. You know what? It's, you know what?

Six women enter, five women leave, ones in the pool. Okay, there's a variation on the pool though. Wait, wait, that is so much math. So Andy is like, okay, I want to talk about something serious. This season, Mary made a lot of racially insensitive remarks and the fans were outraged. We all were outraged. We all were outraged. The comments were ignorant and intolerant and hurtful.

And to Lisa about Jen and Val, she said, so we've now seen like some of Mary's un-ungreat moments where she talks about where she says, like when I see Jen, I think I see a thug, you know, those Mexican people who make all those drugs and she's talking to them to the clip of slanted eyes and yellow tones all and like then her doing the accent like all the stuff that's really Not great. Yeah, basically sensitive and problematic one would actually even say yeah

I should say and then and racist right so then I don't know why I'm sugarcoding. I'm being like, all delicate. Well, yeah, it's not good. Not good. So then, let's see here. Jenny talks, first of all, do you think Andy is just so sick of this?

Because it's every reunion, for how many years now, every reunion, Andy's like, all right, now for the racism, say me. I know, right? Like every single time, he's like, all right, now for the racism, say me. I know, right? Like every single time it's like some racist asshole, like every season, which is becoming like a weird thing that makes me wonder, hmm, makes me wonder, are we doing this on purpose, guys? Because it's literally every season.

Or sad commentary on the state of our country, which is that you can't hire seven people without one person being racist That's absolutely that is absolutely the truth. That is actually probably more the true us. So then You know, so Andy brings up this stuff. This is all like very serious stuff And it's you know, it's not good and Jenny says it's hurtful because she's a minority and I'm a minority and we're supposed to support each other And Meredith and I'm a minority and we're supposed to support each other. And Meredith, and it's very rich, by the way, considering the cartoons that Jenny then puts out, but she's not wrong,

but it goes both ways. And I'm not paying Jenny that kind of mind at this point. You know what I mean? I don't want to disregard anything she's saying. Because what she's saying in this moment is actually true. Absolutely. And obviously, I don't want to make fun of it. And I really don't like Jenny.

And think she's a lower tier housewife in general. So it's just like a whole mix of no for me. That's what this is. I think that's, you know what? I'm going to coastline that. A whole mix of no. Yeah, no, I think that's you know what I'm going to cosine that a whole mix of no Yeah, no, I can't but about what you and me is like well marina the lunch You seem like you gave Mary a pass and Meredith's like well I assume you say when I defended her you mean at the sinko demanding

That was actually offensive to oh I don't enemy, yeah. And, yeah, and then, Jenny was like, you know, yeah, at the luncheon, you made, like Mary made one of my accent and you both sat there and laughed. And Mary was, I did not laugh. It was a grimace. Like the, like McDonald's, I got that.

See, we are friends. See, now I was horrified and uncomfortable and I said no Characters because I was trying to give a reminder to her that it was not okay in a very subtle Quiet and underseated way right and Jenny's like but then it witnessed event and he's like oh I'm gonna interrupt you too at the Confrontation it witnessed party you were asked about Mary's slanted eyes comment and you didn't say anything Meredith. And then we see a clip of her saying,

well, I mean, it's not something I would say, but I don't know if it would be a fence of her mind. I just wouldn't say it. Yeah, and she's basically like, she's like, well, my understanding. And going into that moment, that's when you're dealing with a comment that's prejudicial, you're supposed to look for the party affected by it to get a cue. And if I could do it again, I would have just said yes, yes, to the dress.

And the reason I didn't say yes is because before I was asked if it was an offensive, Jenny responds with the same question, said, well, it's inappropriate. I got nervous that I was not being respectful to your views. And Jenny was like, I did say it was inappropriate, but I said that was preceded by it was racist, it was offensive, and it was inappropriate. Yeah, I mean Meredith, nice try on this one. The truth is, in my guess dimension,

you're just, Mary was loyal to you, you were loyal to Mary, you teamed up no matter what, even though Mary just kept falling all over herself, you refused to say anything. It's a housewife thing, we've seen it multiple times. But for you to take that and turn it around now and to, well, my understanding is that dealing with sensitive subjects with other races, you yield to the other races feelings and that's what I was doing. When Mary said fuck up things, that's crazy.

You can't really enter that. You're being sensitive by ignoring, she's turning it into she's being racially sensitive by ignoring the fucking racism. Like, well, I think that I actually think that what Meredith was trying to say was like, look, I think she didn't want to be white-splaining in that moment. I think that's sort of what she wanted to say, which is like, if Mary says, is this offensive,

I don't think she wanted to be like, it's offensive because this and that, that, that, that, you know, I think that's what I'm assuming she was trying to get at, but she didn't really say that. So, and ultimately, the reason she gave Jenny is like, at, but she didn't really say that. And ultimately, her reasoning she gave, Jenny is like, yeah, but I said it was racist. So, it's not a genuine part of her. Yeah.

So Andy's like, well, I mean, it didn't seem to be a question whether or not she was wrong. I mean, you just can't say, I'm not even gonna say it. All right, it's horrible. Heather, you said Jenny looked like an anime character. What was that about? Heather's like, well, it's horrible. Heather, you said Jenny looked like an anime character. What was that about? Heather's like, well, it wasn't because you're Asian and I realized it's terrible that it came out that way.

It's terrible, but you were wearing a vinyl corset and you looked like a cartoon drawn, you know, like a drawn, like a cart, like a, and so therefore, you know, of all the cartoon characters I could have picked, I chose anime, that's all. And this is like, I'm chillic, Garjoss. Okay, hi, baby Garjoss, I'm a mega-hard-haw. And Jenny's like, yeah, but look, I like the compliment.

I just don't like the labeling, you know, being a minority in a woman of color. And Andy's like, well, curious, is you saw the season back, Meredith? Do you have any regrets about going so hard for Mary or not speaking up more? I'm giving you a chance to take a marry and a...

And she's like, well, I regret that moment of course. And then I texted Jenny a couple of things, later on. You know, I... Alright, I'm felt. I texted her a couple days later to make sure she knew I felt horribly should gone through that and she had my support and then the text is like how are you doing Tuesday was intense and I'm sorry you had to experience those feelings like I don't know if that's really translates to that but fine.

Yeah, with like a link to a Burke's Mark sweatsuit. So Jennings like you know you defend Mary every time I try and say anything. And at the spa, she said she's not comfortable, you know, talking to me about her husband. She doesn't even know me. You should have said she's trying to open up to you. Okay. Well, that's where I think you're going too far. Mary had the absolute right to not talk to you and to walk away from you. And absolutely was it was it socially awkward?

Yes, but it was also within her rights. Yeah she told how many times is someone need to say I don't like you. But yeah you know but Meredith is like well I'm not her keeper she's an adult woman. Okay and she's capable of being an adult and doing things like babysitting small toddlers like Brooksy and Jenny's like But you're her friends. You should have turned on you should have turned to her and said oh you can't be rude to Jenny Oh really did any of your friends say you shouldn't throw glasses at people. I don't remember that I remember everybody fucking applauding you so can we please stop like yeah So and then had there's like well I stood up for you every time she came

after you and Rath Rath says Jenny maybe that's because I felt under attack by you the entire season and she's like wait what did I attack you? Well you may all these judgements and never once asked me a question the entire time. And she says what judgements and this I really liked because it's calling Jenny out on just being a phony, right? Which I liked. She's like, let's start with, let's start with this never a good way to hear a discussion, right? Let's start with, I'm fishing in the car with Lisa.

You said, I've known Meredith for a little while now. She goes, well, my definition of a little while is my own definition of a little while. And he's like, let her speak, please. And she's like, you said, I've known Meredith a little while now. And she tends to ice people out when there's conflux. I met you one week before, Jenny. All right. Now, I don't know how that meeting you one time at a party and some not for you to know, am I high-spin? Why? Which I like. His Jenny is acting like she's known Lisa for years and she's also by proxy known Meredith, which,

right, not true. It's probably because Jenny was basic some of this off of what she saw in season one. So she's like, you always assigned to take and misinterpret a lot of things. I sat and created a lot of problems between me and Jan, where I thought we were in a peaceful spot. And so she's like, and you make this into something it wasn't.

You never asked me, I saw you with your husband. And, you know, you were saying, why wouldn't you call the police about the text messages? Well, why did't you ask me if I call the police? Okay, I have a police report Jenny. Not only did I call the police, I played bad boys, bad boys, what you gonna do when I called them. I have a police report. I have so a picture of me setting a police car pressing a button to make the silence go whoa, whoa, how dare you? I was literally wearing a yellow

overcoat from my favorite movie Dick Tracy to emphasize how much I was into making this police report. And I am totally Meredith side on this Jenny with completely crazy going and starting all of this shit every chance she could. Like, well guess what Meredith said? She called an investigator on you. So that's all Jenny's wrong and that and she can't get out of it.

So she just starts going, are you done? Are you done? Classic. And Jenny care, they've all been as messy as Jenny, but it's housewives, right? Like it's housewives. But in this specific argument, yeah, Jenny is totally the messy one. So Meredith's like, all right, well, am I done?

What else can we go to? Oh, here's one. Here's a good one. You're so offended by Mary's gaffer because in your because you thought it was used and your culture's very offended by that. Yeah, my husband received used golf balls as the birthday gift of Romeo.

I was like, wow, like used golf balls. Wow. So I was like, I'm going. When Meredith decides she's going to get petty, because that's one thing, Meredith does not like to be petty like that, but when she decides, she's going to do like, okay, I'm bringing all right Seth I

Said if Jenny starts with me today. I'm bringing up the golf ball so help me dad So and you love it because Seth is messy too because how would Meredith know? You know what I mean Seth can't almost like those golf balls were used like they had Mark Sonner or something those golf balls were used like they had Mark Sonner or something. Why not? The wrong. I don't know. I just love the golf ball drama and the rapper. I'm so old.

It's rather revolting. So. So Andy just cracking up. It's like, you gave your husband give you golf balls. And Jenny's like, I gave you golf balls. She's like, uh, uh, uh-huh, like not really answering and I'm really like, I can donate them to that clown house. It's you like Andy's like, uh, I don't think they're iconic enough. It's rejected.

That was so funny. So Andy, okay, from M, M from M's, once in a week, I didn't surprise you to see Meredith so tolerant of Mary's ignorance. Okay, so Lisa's like, you know what? That's a great question. So let me think about it for a moment. Let me think about how I'm going to answer that. It's a yes or no. Lisa just keeps opening her mouth.

Really, really wide and then closing it again. I was shocked that Meredith was more vocal wasn't more vocal but I do know that Meredith does not like I like that little bit of her verse so I was shocked. She wasn't as vocal as I normally would. Everyone just keeps interrupting Lisa the whole time and Heather Whispers this this is bullshit. To wit me. And Meredith is like every relationship has a different dynamic basically. So she's like, I speak to Mary one on one about things constantly.

She knows where I spin y'all. And then he goes, well, what good is it if you don't call her out in front of other women or on camera where we could have a viral moment that could be seen on Bravo TV.com It means nothing if we can capitalize on it with commercials. If a tree falls in the forest and no one's there to hear it, did the tree still get a boob job? If the tree fell in the forest but it was non TV did the booz job journey to an elbow job? What the hell is going on with trees? I'm just like, well, I'm doing my voice and Addy.

I have plenty on camera. So Akula from LA says, we all agree Mary was wrong for mocking your accents, Jenny. But what are you going to address and take accountability for the fact that you constantly use a black scent, you roll your neck and wag your finger and other stereotypical depictions of black women when you talk to or about Mary. And then we get the Jenny black scent montage. I was like, I didn't notice a black scent. Did you? I mean, I didn't see that. You do.

I'm not just saying that to make myself sound cool, but like, I noticed, I noticed it more with her professionals. She was like, girl, she was doing sort of those things. But that's what Chant does all the time too. Yeah, but I definitely noticed it on Jenny, and I thought like, I wasn't sure, like I wasn't sure how much of it was like what you put in on a black sentence, or is it she is from Long Beach, you know?

And so, you know, it's just, you know, it's like patterned, she just grew up around. I wasn't sure, but I always thought it was like a little, to me it struck me more. Like, she doesn't only seem to do it in the confessionals, that's felt like a weird dichotomy. Like, okay, stop trying to do this thing in a confessional. But obviously in the recent weeks, it's become more, it seems like it's become more of a, part of the discussion around Jenny overall. Well, yeah, and especially knowing what we know now,

looking at a lot of those scenes from before, especially her just jumping all down Mary's throat, the first time when she got so mad, you know. Like now everything looks a little differently. Everything does, which is why we've said that, sort of in retrospect, like maybe, you know, we've noticed, like maybe what, maybe Mary was picking up on something that like, at least I personally

didn't see right out the gate. Yeah, so then we go to, she basically says she grew up in Long Beach and so she doesn't understand how people say she has she uses a black accent because she just has an accent period And she's like does it ever she's like does that do you guys see that? I mean do you guys think I have a black accent? I mean come on everybody and everyone just kind of stairs What is that? Yeah, they're like I'm not I'm not know, they're like, I'm not, I'm not answering that. So, and he's like, so Jenny, you threw a glass at Mary

and she nods like proudly and he goes, is that a little bit hypocritical that you reprimand Mary for being violent with her words when you're violent with your actions? And she's like, well, I didn't throw it at Mary, I threw it at the floor and if I wanted hit Mary, I would have hit Mary. Like, would you like to throw something into the water pit? This is your chance.

I mean, she's ridiculous. You threw it at Mary and it landed on the ground right by Mary who was walking away from you. Okay? Yeah. I'm not here to judge, you know, anything about your terrible sportsmanship. No, I'm just kidding.

I'm here to judge you. But you threw it. But also isn't throwing it at the floor. Also just violent too. It sort of doesn't change the question, right? So Andy's like, do you like Mary? She goes, no. And the reason why I don't like her is because she didn't like me. And Jen's like, well, I will say that when we went tubing, you really did go hard on Mary. And I was like, well, and she goes, yeah, but it wasn't at Mary. I said, shut the fuck up to all of you and let's have some fun. You fucking liar. No, that is not how it had you eventually yelled at them all, but yes, you were yelling at Mary the whole time.

Yeah, I mean, it's funny because it was not funny, but at that time, I like, I understood it. She was just like, oh my god, these two are squabbling and like, let's just have fun and I'm just having a bad day. Like, shut the fuck up. Let's have fun. But now again, in retrospect, she was like, oh my God, these two are squabbling. And like, let's just have fun. And I'm just having a bad day. Like, shut the fuck up. Let's have fun. But now, again, in retrospect, everything is like, has a slightly different context, you know? And so then that day, Mary was being snotty to Jenny first.

Like, that's how it kind of started. Jenny made a comment and then Mary got snotty. And then Jenny just went way over the top with it. Right, at least in my memory. So then she was like, but I apologized when I did her makeup that day. And Jen's like, I mean, it doesn't matter. It's Mary M. Cosby.

And she goes, yeah, because it just didn't stop. And Heather's like, yeah, you know what? It didn't stop there. Which makes me think that there's something in Mary that's racist, because it didn't stop there. Which of course Heather is saying, because Mary on Twitter called Heather racist.

So now Heather is gonna come on the reunion when Mary's not there to call her racist against, I mean, just kidding. Yeah, I don't think it was racism for Mary to be like, you know what, I just don't fuck with Jenny, you know, that's just, that's not racism, that's just like, I just don't like her, you know what? I just don't fuck with Jenny, you know, that's just that's not racism. That's just like I Just don't like her, you know, and so and there could have been a little bit there like who knows we have

No idea, but leave it up to Heather to be like I think I would I think I think maybe I think say like full on racism, I don't know so Andy is like well I did speak to her and she told me she didn't think black people were capable of being racist. And then Jenny, this is at the end of segment, which I thought was telling, because I think that Bravo ended it like this. I think this is actually their little editorial moment. Jenny goes, oh, they are everyone. It's capable of being racist. It's like this moment of like everyone's capable of being racist. And then I the moment of everyone's capable of being racist.

And then I kind of just like goes to commercial. I was like, that was Bravo being like, mm, mm. You know? Yeah. So then when we come back, we get to mess, just general mess. Like some people were putting extra muscle into making a mess. And then we get an Angie section

where Angie is just starting so much shit. We've been asked to host parties at the restaurant by Lisa's assistant and they said we can't do your party now and Whitney going Lisa yeah Lisa is sabotaging you. My favorite fight of 2021 catergate. I love this fight. So Andy is like, by a show of hands, who are your things that Lisa is the potster of the group and pretty much everyone raises their hands except for Jenny? Yes. I didn't plan a bug. I didn't plan a bug because Whitney is like, you planted a bug in Jen's ear. I didn't plan a bug. and Jenny or Jen's like, you know what? I mean, I'm like, you know, look, here's the shitsters once on that couch and once on this couch and she's on the couch with Whitney and Heather.

You're all shitsters. Come on. I'm Whitney's like, well, I think Lee sit as a brilliant job of stirring the pot and I always take the baton. So she's basically saying I'm gullible as fuck Yeah, I always fall for it. Well, I'll be real honest. I feel like I was playing the full I'm like wait Meredith you weren't even part of this is one thing you were not part of the catering and this goes So do so do so do it so do or it, or so do I, so do I. And he goes, well, who played you as a fool? Well, we'll talk about it.

Let's talk about it. Yeah. So then he's like, okay, Lisa, how you explain the timeline of the catering debacle? You're assisting call, then the caterers pulled out. I mean, that thing, little fishy. And she pulls out a humongous folder. It's like this way, okay.

And so she's like, no, that didn't happen. Listen, I don't have an assistant first of all. I don't have an assistant that would call Angie's Caterer's. My employees work for Vita. So I was like, oh, okay, okay. So we're gonna play that. I don't have any assistant. It's my employees at Vita.

Yeah, and he's like, well, you do have seven lawyers. Let's talk about the timeline. Okay. Great book by Michael Carton. Okay. Next topic. And then Whitney is like, I saw the text on Angie's phone. And Heather is like, Angie's the only person that has stood up to you and not conspired with you. And then we see the text from Angie, which are like, would you be interested in catering an event? It will be on TV. It's a secret. They said we'd love to heads up Lisa reached out to us to come to the restaurant to shoot as well. And then they said, I'm not sure we can do multiple shoots, but I think so. So then Angie said, don't tell Lisa.

Yeah. So Angie said, it's a secret and don't tell Lisa. Both things are shady as fuck. So I don't know what Angie's trying to prove by showing people those texts. And they never said yes. They said, we're not sure we can do multiple shoots, but we think so. But everybody is acting like this is concrete proof of something. Right, it's not.

And so Lisa's like, yeah, that was where when she said don't tell her it's all. And then he goes, well, why do you think she didn't want to tell you? And then he goes, I have an answer, I have an answer, Annie, I have an answer. And there's like, I do, chill. Angie asked them not to tell Lisa because production didn't want her to know that Angie was getting the first event Now that I believe that I think is the is the truest except I heard that the I'm not gonna get in the timelines we're going so long. Okay, so Heather's like yeah

I would they said it would send her it they knew it would send her into a tailspin Which it did and Lisa's like no If it doesn't mean your tailspin because none of us were getting along that was the right move that was the right move What was the right move None of us were getting along so that was the right move What was the right move the caterer not agreeing to do her party? Maybe it was at least a tell from herself all the time. Or was it the motive? Like, wait, what did Lisa say again? She said, none of us. None of us wrote. Now that doesn't mean that's accurate. So I was typing a lot. But I wrote because none of us were getting along. It was the right move. Wait, was this, was this app,

was this, did you say that's a response to Andy saying, what would have been her motive in sabotaging this for Angie? Yeah, well, it was a response to Whitney saying, Angie said the production asked her not to tell Lisa because they didn't want her to know that Angie was getting the first event. So that's why she was saying it was a super Lisa.

I was just trying to say if maybe it was motive instead of move, but I think it was, she'd think she did say right moves. Really important point. I'm like, oh guys, I'm gonna stop entire podcast to really think about this. Well, it does, it could change a lot. You know, one word, it changes a lot. So I'm sticking with move and Lisa just taught on herself.

So Andy's like, well, what would have been the motivation for sabotaging this? And when he goes, Angie and I connect, that's the motivation at least because no, no, it's not. I don't do, I just spattled over my microphone. I'm sorry, microphone, I'm sorry. I don't do things like that, I don't. But Lisa asked Angie not to be my friend

and she told me on social media She said not to acknowledge me on social media and we've all seen receipts Whitney You're so full of shit. That's not what the receipt said at all and you fucking know it and you still come here acting like that and Then we see a clip of Angie saying she's asked me not to acknowledge you as my cousin. And Lisa's like, you know what I said? You're twisting it. I said don't claim her. Because Lisa posted this receipt a while back that was the actual text where what's her buttons?

Angie said, oh my god, I just found out by watching the show that Whitney and I are like cousins or something. And she said, oh my god, don't claim her. Yeah, it was clearly like a snarky, snarky remark. And they're like, oh my god, she said, don't associate with it. Like they went and they ran with it. And Andy goes, did you call them in bread, polygamous cousins?

And then we stick clip of these are going, they're like in bread, polygamous cousins. I mean, it's just weird that they're friends now. I mean, like, they're just friends because they're like weird and bread polygamous cousins. I don't get it. It's like, I looked up the whole clip

and it was cracking me up because she says something like, I mean, that's like my girl, that's like what me and my girlfriend saying like, oh my god, we both believe in Jesus. So we're sisters, meaning like, we're all related because there was just Adam and Eve. So we must be brother and sister or whatever, right? So anyway, who cares?

So Lisa's, so then I looked up my family genie.com because I wanted to know all the cousins. Oh my god. I looked at this whole tree of these people. It was nuts. You guys should go look it up. And I would get into it, but we're in hour 23. So Ben, we can talk about it on take a seat tonight. How about that? Okay. Yeah, that's good. Um, so anyway, um, so Andy's like, well, why would you try it? Why would Lisa try to sabotage her friend of 20 years? And when he goes because Angie knows all her deepest darkest secrets to protect herself. Whitney loves spinning a narrative. She might be right in this case but between this and like with Meredith like she wasn't on the van and her

memorial may have been on a Monday or a Tuesday. Meredith is in the secret surface. It's like what's what are you talking about? But it also makes no sense on a Monday or a Tuesday. Meredith is in the secret service. It's like, what's what are you talking about? But it also makes no sense because Lisa brought Angie on the show. So why would she bring Angie on the show who knows all of her deepest, darkest secrets? But then try and sabotage her friendship with you.

Like that none of that makes sense. She has a list. Angie has a list. And Lisa is afraid people will see the list. And that's why Angie has to advertise it now Like no, that's Angie's list is a totally different thing Whitney Angie loves construction and Lisa does it. That's why Andy So Meredith's like only Let me shake my hand I'm bowed again

I have a question. Well, let me shake my hand and bow it again. Oh, man, I'm casino night. When you ran into this problem with Angie, did you feel I had your beer? I do feel like you had my podcast. Well, the golf balls rest. So Whitney's like, but when you take a step back, can you see how the timeline and

cadence of events, the cadence of events, Whitney and Lisa's like, no, because I 100% did not do it. Now, yes, I think that if, of course, it looks like Lisa fucking did this, of course, it does. But we just were read the text that said the caterers never promised to do this in the first place. And Angie's like, they pulled out at the last second. No Angie, you never had a fucking caterer for your party and then tried to blame your shitty planning on somebody else. It's true.

So Angie is like, he's like, hell are you and Lisa developed a good friendship by the end of the season, but you've become also good friends with Angie, who we are talking a lot about this episode, but not actually having her on. They just celebrated Angie's birthday in Cabo. How does that make you feel? And Lisa's like, well, I'm happy they're all friends. I'm happy.

Oh, yeah, right. So yeah, right. Oh, yeah, right. And this is where Heather will not, through the rest of this episode, Lisa can't open her mouth without Heather screaming over her, right? So there's like, you just can't take responsibility

for being territorial and controlling. And Heather just keeps talking over Lisa, talking over Lisa. So Lisa's like, I have a text that explains everything. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah. This is how she thought Jenny is the perfect example of that. Have what? Lisa keeps on saying, she's like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

So, her auntie's like, Heather, you became friends with Lisa by the end of the season, but now your friends with Angie, what's up with that? You went to Cabo, so Heather goes, yeah. And it was a great vacation. We were on a yacht that Chris actually paid for instead of just posting pictures of it like you do Lisa. And this is, oh, are you insulting John Bala right now?

Are you insulting John Bala right now? She lives the life that you pretend to have. You, she actually has that life, okay? And we enjoy the spoils of it. I was like, oh wow, your top tier users, congrats. They are acting, I mean, they're literally acting like she is like Kate Middleton or something like that, like Angie, like Angie got us a yacht and Cabo San Lucas. I mean, it's like they're just like she's going out throwing money at everything. So, so I had to, I had

this like, I have Dirt on Newtley had her say, I have dirt on you, Lisa. And I hold it all back. But maybe I won't hold it back any longer. So Lisa goes, well, what about your DUI? Just look it up. It's a lie. OK. Unless you're referring to my driving under the influence

of barminism, which I gave up. I gave up my DUI. So first of all, if you had dirt on Lisa, you would have sent it. I mean, please, you were talking about had Jen shot. You got her an Uber and then Jen shot got out in the middle of the, I mean, you would sling the shit, okay? Also, I did look up the DUI. I could not find it anywhere, even under her full name, Heather Dean.

This makes this makes so much sense because you watched this before I did and you're like, I spent so much time looking things up. And when I was watching it, I was like, what did Ronnie look up? And now I get to find out. I had a crazy weekend watch or I had a crazy night watching this. So Lisa's like, yeah, looking up liar. I looked it up. This is so insane.

Okay. So here's what I found out. This is John Legacy.com. This is her insane. Okay, so here's what I found out. This is John legacy.com. This is her father, Heather's father. Always up for adventure upon graduating from the University of Utah. John joined the FBI and immediately left for Quantico, Virginia. Isn't that crazy? And the first assignment with the FBI, the bank robbery desk. Are you saying that Heather's father wasn't the FBI? Did Heather's father's ghosts rat Jen out? I think that's so that's so interesting being that this whole season is like who called

the FBI and, you know, the bank robbery when Jen is accused of wire fraud and stuff. I mean, I'm not saying there is anything to it. I just thought it was very interesting. Well, it's interesting to you because the whole season's a lot of it's been about this FBI situation, but also about Heather and her relationship with her late father. It's strange that they didn't connect those dots and Heather did not expand upon that and say, you know, my father was action at the iagin and I actually was around this stuff a lot. So this is bringing up a lot of sad memories for me. Like I'm surprised you just didn't even make it

about herself in that way. I am too. It's weird. And then I also failed at failure. I couldn't find out anything. I mean, I searched for a long time as you can tell. So then I was searching up her husband, Frank William Gay, the third. Wait, Framely, William Gay, wait, no, Billy. Yeah, I must say. Okay, there's another relation. Anyway, the point is, Billy, and now I need to relook this up, but I think Billy tried to trademark the term Mormon royalty after the show came out. Isn't that interesting?

Just interesting facts. That's fun. That's funny. So then Heather tries to actually spend it. She's actively fighting with Lisa and and promising to bring out all the dirt on her and then says, we love you as you are. We love you as you are. We just want you to be yourself. We want you to have that all for yourself and you don't want to take it. You don't you don't have to you don't have to fake it. Okay. Some people are just like that. I mean you don't want to take it. You don't have to fake it, okay? Some people are just like that. I mean, you can't tell Diet Coke to stop faking. It's Diet Coke and this is what it is, okay?

So Heather's like, you do fake it Lisa and it's okay. I mean, maybe you should just pivot and Lisa goes, oh my God, you want my K1s? Just, I love her more when I saw her true self show up than I've ever liked her before because I don't wanna be friends with someone who's just some character, a character,

she once read an eighth grade that said how to be a cool mean girl. But then you think you liked her more when she lost it because you had been riling her up to lose it against Meredith and literally made her promise you on the bus that you would go for Meredith that night at dinner and then she finally did. And what a coincidence. That's what why not you liked her. So weird.

So let's move on! Jen, why do you think Lisa mentioned your former dress designer? Did you want to humiliate you or were she worried that Whitney was being a bad friend? Honestly, we'll accept both answers. Why isn't the question Jen, why did you abuse your former dress designer? Let's roll the fucking footage that we have. Why is this about that Jen being a victim again? So Jen, that's true too.

Jen's like, well, but I thought in the moment was that she wanted me to know that Whitney isn't a good person, but And Lisa's waiting wait wait wait wait wait wait this is about my business So I want to clear it up about your pastness right now, okay At the time that he was working for Jen we thought he was Jen's ride or die Okay, and that was prior to the leak of the ado adio So I told my team as soon as I heard Uh, uh, uh, can I start from the beginning Andy? No, okay

As soon as I heard audio I told my team do not reach out team do not reach out. LOL at Whitney acting like she has a team. I'm sure I know. Whitney has this huge team with daughter. Yeah. So Lisa's like, my intention in bringing it up. She's telling Andy like quietly because everyone keeps talking over her and Whitney goes, what's it good mad at me?

She is, oh my God, you haven't made it to what standard, but why is it okay for them to do all that stuff? And Heather's like, yeah, she explained her horrible behavior Wait, no I'm lost my notes you continue So Lisa's like I just I didn't want to hurt her or disparage I was also questioning my relationship about John because and Heather's like yes you lost control That's why you did it and it's just a bunch of screaming over each other Lisa

You totally brought shit on camera that was, you knew was gonna embarrass Jen, who was supposed to be your great friend. On the other hand, you know the producers were like, bring this shit up. I mean, Jen just abused somebody on the Twitter. We've got to talk about it on the show, right? Yeah, so, yeah, exactly.

Apparently they had this conversation about it, and Lisa had said she wouldn't bring it up, but then brought it up anyway on the show. And Heather's like, that's how you are. You want to make sure you know everything going on in a scene before anyone films with you. Yeah, you're literally on camera going, you're gonna talk to Meredith tonight, right?

Tonight at dinner, you're gonna talk to Meredith, isn't it? Also in the season finale, when Mary kept trying to run away from Jenny, have you seen the clips that are being reposted of Heather going, well, Jenny, go, go. Like pointing at her, like egging Jenny on to keep chasing Mary. So that's funny. Wow. So everything's so mad. I'm like, so anyway, so then Jen is now just like saying she's like, you mad. I'm like, so anyway, so then Jen is now just like saying, she's like, no, I'm really hurt. I saw the fail episodes in real time.

Remember when I said I saw them in real time, okay, in real time. And you know what, like, you know, and like now I know why Lisa didn't answer the phone. And Jen is, and she's like, I defended Lisa adamantly. And Lisa goes, like Lisa was like, wait, it's offended Lisa. Admintly, at Lisa goes, like Lisa was like, wait,

what Lisa would ever do? What, what are you saying? I would ever do. Say exactums. I wanna hear exactly. Say exactums. And don't narrate me. Nari, if you're gonna narrate,

narrate with exactums. Well, at Lisa would be too face. She's probably about to be face. I mean, I didn't mean to be. And Andy says, but then why for your charity fresh wolf thing would you invite Whitney, but not Jen? She goes, oh, well, my team didn't invite Whitney. Ah, wait, she says.

This is Jack and Henry. He was asked about Jack and Henry. Since Jack and Henry did a list, why did they invite Whitney and not Jen? And Lisa's like, well, they didn't invite Whitney. I did, which is like, you realize you're just destroying your entire argument. Your entire thing has been like, well, they didn't invite Whitney. I did, which is like, you realize you're just destroying your entire argument. Your entire thing has been like, oh, I didn't do the guest list. My kids did the guest list and I was like, oh,

well, but I added on to it. Yes. It was us, my dad. And I called her and I said, I'm extending an alabrage. You, oh, and she goes, I wanted her to see me as a mother and see my children and see my character and see that I'm racing to see me as a mother, and see my children, and see my character, and see that I'm racing two great kids, and Heather, because Lisa, your character, and she's, I don't want you to talk about my character. Well, I'm going to. And then he goes, well, I'm gonna invite Jen.

Okay, well, at the photo shoot, I had a lot of emotions, and Jen and I got like, really hot, and I was thinking like, oh no, I and I felt horrible for it uh uh Andy I'd like to say that the right way to say it is horrible and no it's horrible that's how you say it. Well I felt horrible about it and then when we left Jen called me and we got into it all over again and I actually thought it was gonna be the last time don't ever talk to Jen Shaw, okay? And Henry heard that and he was crying and he said mommy you're great mommy

And he was hugging me because I'm so One stop And I love Jen Shaw as controversial as it is so as soon as she said that I was like oh Jen is gonna eat her up for saying as controversial as it is and that's exactly what she does She goes okay, you know what you don't have to add that's controversial as it is to love Gencha Okay, it's not controversial love me all right Yeah, I mean I love me. I don't but I'm tired of all the diss you know this Disclaimers when it comes to Gencha, it's bolt in.

And how there's laughing to Whitney like, it's this great TV. So good. And that was the end of the first hour. How am I completely bonkers? It is completely, completely bonkers. Um, Bose hilarious. Super fun. God loved it.

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